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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Welcome to Off the Edge with Cam Jordan. It's me. Hello.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
I appreciate y'all tapping in tuning in twelve years experience
behind me heading the year thirteen with the NFL, with
the Saints, with the same team. It's a dream and
I'm living it. I'm not truly excited because we as athletes,
we want to reach for perfection. We're sitting at two
and one. New Orleans Saints lost to the green Bay
Packers somehow in the last seven minutes and fifty seconds
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of the game, which irks me because I'm not a
fan of the Green Bay Packers because I was born
in Minnesota. Pops played for the Minnesota Vikings, left when
I was five, but I grew up being a cheesehead hater,
so I hate losing to the cheese Heads just innately.
I've grown up from that. I don't have that type
of love hate relationship between the Vikings and the Packers
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or anybody else in the league.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
But it still does. It grinds my gears.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
You know, Thomas tom Us, Thomas your mute. You can't
just pop in the window.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
I can't just chuck you hurt? Right? Were there? One?
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Two? Three?
Speaker 4 (01:12):
Specific plays in the game that you can point to
and say this heard us may have contributed to the loss.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
There was a specific you know, fourth and short on
the on the goal line that you just wish you
had that play back. You know, defensive line crashed down
on a running back Jordan Love runs into the end zone.
Speaker 5 (01:34):
Pockets have struggled out fourth down today.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Love well taken it. In my mind, you know we
stopped we stop them there. That's the end of the game.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
We ended up having seven penalties for over one hundred
and one yards. It hurts shoot in.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
The third quarter, Derek Carr goes down out of the
shot down.
Speaker 5 (01:53):
This car here comes pressure picked up, the car steps
up and he won't go down rush Sean Gary linebacker
tonny and car is down still.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Was how he was slammed into the ground. Lost seventh
time out for injury.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
Man, he is in some payment.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
You know.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
You look at that and you're like, man, all right,
we got James coming in as a defense. You're trying
to step up as a team. You're you're rallying, you're
getting the energy up. Their car walks off on his
own court. You're like, all right, we know it's not
something that's going to take away from our future. We're
working about our present, worried about it right now. It
sucks that injuries do happen on the field, especially to
a quarterback who you know is growing with our offense
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each and every game, and you just have to pick
it up as a defense, you know, get down to
the thirty yard marker and have to kick it with
a winning field goal doesn't happen our way.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Snap hold, kick is away and he missed him. You
could tell him by the crowd behind. I believe you
missed it.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
White.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Right at the end of the day, you can't rest
on the sugar cut of what is. All you have
is the now and now. The Saints are sitting there
two and one, and we've got our site. We've now
broken down film, got our sites officially all in Tampa Bay.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Buccaneers. Don't ask me about Derek Carr. I have no idea.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
That being said, if Jamis has to take the field,
Derek Carr takes the field, we're gonna be in a
great spot to try and put major points on the board.
It's got to be you know, we've looked at it
this whole year as it's got to be on defense.
It's gonna be on defense. Defense gonna take over this
next game against Tampa Bay. We're gonna focus on what
we can't control.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
You know, when it comes into scheduling. I just want
to talk about when it comes into scheduling.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Turning over a loss like this, you lose on a
Sunday in Green Bay, you talk to you. You know,
there's a family section if you have friends, family come
through after a loss. I'm not a good person, so
after a loss, I'm really not looking forward to a
family section. And there are people that you really look
forward to seeing regardless, So you show love where you
can show love, because you have to accept the love
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that you know that wants.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
To show up to these games.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
You like.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Man, it's great to see you. I'm just headed to
the bus. Man, just trying to get to the bus.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Pops. I appreciate you for being moms. Thank you, love
you guys so much.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Bay Wifey kids whoever like Man, thank you guys for
being here.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
I want to take picture so I can go to
the bus. You know, you get back to get back
home somewhere around seven thirty. You're around your family. The kids.
Kids don't care kids just want to see you, dad.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
You lost, I'm sorry, and you're like, oh man, look
there there's a bigger picture here. This this loss isn't
gonna change who I am as a person because I'm
still your dad. This loss is gonna change who I am.
I used to used to affect my whole day. Now
I'm like, hey, like, let's watch a movie.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
Let's calm down. If you guys want to, you know.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
I probably don't. If I lose, I'm probably not watching football.
I'm watching highlights of football because I'm I'm petty. I
want everybody to lose after I I like, if I lose,
I want.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Everybody to lose.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
I'm just checking ESPN scores like, yeah they lost, Yeah
they lost.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Yeah I wanted them to lose. Yeah they lost too.
They won. They'll lose to when we play them, though.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Like you know, there's just times where you that's my petty,
it's taken over. But either way, you know that that
next day is where you break down film with the team,
You get your body right, you check yourself, like, all right,
how sore am I?
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Because if you're showing Monday dom setting in Tuesday.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
That's delayed on set muscle soreness, I believe, which just
means if you if you ever have like gotten a
car wreck or played football, you know, which is just like.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
A car wreck. You feel that.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
About two days later, you're like, man, I'm good on Sunday,
like I'm hyped up.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
You got all that adrenaline pumping.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
Man.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Some Monday you're like.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Ooh, this showed a little the shoulder, got a little
wing to it. Now you got a little sting to it. Oh, Tuesday,
Tuesday would have hit Ooh Hamstrang's tight calves.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Tight back tight. Oh he did hit me in the ribs.
I feel that that's a bruise. I am bruise. I
am severe severed. If you shall, you.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Know, that's when you when you feel it all hit,
You're like, all right, well now I gotta I'm getting
a massage. I'm getting bodywork done on Tuesday as well
as Wednesday, because I'm trying to like, all right, this
is what ails me. This is how I get back,
and uh, you know, that's that's the off day. And
then I come in and come talk to y'all. You know,
we chat it up, we get it out, and then
later on the night I'll be at kids practices because
I got four of them.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
Things. Now, hey, you see cam J just no, cam
J got a legacy.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
There's tain't J, there's Glow Joe, and you know, there's
there's Nea Grace, and there's Cha Cha.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
Which one do you like the most?
Speaker 1 (06:20):
I don't have I don't have a ranking. I tell them.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
I tell them each individual, you know, loves that I
have for But you know, I tell my oldest son,
I'm like, man, hey, you're my favorite oldest son.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
And he's like, Dad, I'm your only oldest son. That's
why you're my favorite.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
And then you know, my oldest daughter. I'm like, I'm like, oh,
you're my You're my favorite oldest daughter. And she was like, Dad,
I'm your only oldest daughter.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
But dug, I mean, you know. Then I tell Nea Grace.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
I'm like, baby, I was like, you're my favorite little
country baby and she's like, I'm not country, but like
her name is Nea Grace.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
That's country as it gets right there.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
And then my little you know, my little Cha Chad,
like I like to chat chall like that. Just I'm like,
I'm like, she's my little baby. You know, that's the
baby of the family. So she's gonna get love regardless,
like nobody loves her. So she got so much love.
So I just try to give him their own little
piece of the pie.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
You know.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
But speaking of staying in the president being in this week, man,
I got I got one of my former teammates. Now
he's over at the Union, now he's over at Miami.
You know, I think there's really great office tackles in
this league. Maybe few and far between, but you have
to earn my respect either way. I get to bring
on my dog, toront Armstead coming up next. When I
say dog, big b og, he's big dog toront.
Speaker 6 (07:30):
Armstead, the fake good blocking man Don Coats.
Speaker 5 (07:37):
Caught up up thirty sin stuck turn on up cat,
turning cat touchdown.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Oh that was a clip of the Dolphins putting seventy
points beginning of the Dolphins putting seventy points on a
Denver Broncos team.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
Oh man, I'm excited. I got my dog.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
You know, the coldest left tackle in the game, for real,
for real, when he hits the field, he's trapped city.
This guy you know in the game that only let
up two precious of the entire game across the line.
I'm not saying him across the line. I don't, man,
it's my dog, Tron Armstead. Were talking about former All
swack out of University of Arkansas Pine Bluff. You know,
current four time Pro Bowl, current All Pro. My dog
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is cold left tackle, extraordinary number seventy two. I call
him Teachtead his rap name Teach that I'm with it.
You know, there's a lot of things that are going.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Down my dog.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
I appreciate you tapping in the camps off the edge,
or maybe it's off the edge with Cam Jordan's either way, bro,
I'm just happy that you actually tapped in with me.
As we both know, I don't like a lot of
office a linemen, but I love it.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
Hey, look, that's why I didn't say nothing.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
I wanted you to just keep going.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
It's very rare and he you give praise to an
officeive lineman.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
So I am honored. I have truly honored my brother.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
I am hey man, I've only had on podcast for
for you know, three three episodes?
Speaker 3 (09:03):
You three? Okay? All right?
Speaker 1 (09:05):
You know I had a defensive.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
End, so you know, like I was coming to off
the line and we're going to talk about the trench
Burke were gonna talk about it.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
You heard me how to pop it off with Mark?
So you really my brother?
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Then an edge and then my brother, you know what
I'm saying, Like, I mean, so let's get this out
the way. You know, seventy eight I ain't never seen
the likes of ten tuddies, ten touchdowns. Did y'all punt
it all three hundred and fifty in the air, three
hundred and fifty on the ground?
Speaker 3 (09:31):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (09:31):
Did something go wrong at all in your offensive game plan?
Speaker 3 (09:35):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (09:35):
Yeah, No, we definitely got some things to work on
and to improve on. We had a pretty look. Seventy
points crazy, crazy, I've never seen it before. I've been
around a game for a long time as a fan
and as a player.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
I don't know if you've ever seen seventy school before? Crazy?
All right, high school, I ain't never do that. High school.
That was it was, It was, It was insane.
Speaker 4 (09:59):
We had a turn on downs where we second and
one third and one fourth and one.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
That we didn't convert, which is we have to fix that,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (10:08):
So that's that's where our mindset is focused, you know
what I mean, trying to We're trying to perfect.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
Our craft and be as dangerous as an offense as
we possibly can.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
Man, unreal. You know I had I had a game
the same day.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
Yeah we lost.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
We lost in the last seven minutes and fifty seconds.
It's still gonna piss me off for a while. You know,
I hold I hope these questions.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
You know, you know how petty I am.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Bro, I internalize everything and I let it show show out.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
But that's strive for perfection, Bro. I love that you
talked about.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
You know, there's still things to correct because in a
game like that, that's one of them games that coaches
are gonna try and like mill Over, you're gonna be
in the room and there's.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Two ways it can go.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
It can be like, hey, this is what we could
clean up and think about how much better we could be,
Like coach, we strive for perfection, and that was that
was perfect. If you're looking for the shun, we can
find a shun.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
But I was perfect.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Or if you like, like, hey, you know that's when
you like throw the he's under rug and be like,
oh man, we could have ran for you know, a
couple of yards here there, whatever it is. But now
we're on to the next fit film already, So I
just want to know in the locker room, like what
was the message? You've already broke down film or whatever
it is, what's the message?
Speaker 3 (11:14):
I mean? The initial reaction was kind of like what
just happened? You know what I mean? Historic moment, saw a.
Speaker 4 (11:22):
Lot of high five and and like you know, you
feel me? It was it was crazy. So we're like,
man seventy, like that's wow. But we instantly switched.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
And the focus went to Buffalo, you know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (11:35):
So I love that and from a young head coach
Mat McDaniel, he is he's locked in's on a mission.
So the attention quickly turned to our let's get ready
for the next week. So we didn't have victory Monday.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
We spent Yeah we didn't. We did.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
It ain't no victory money. You already back in that thing.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
I love it for real. It was in workouts meeting
one day and we're getting right back to it. Right.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
It's your second year with the team, bro. You guys
have been what five and oh six and oh last.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
Year we shot off three and oh yeah right.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
So like so now you already know how to get three?
Speaker 2 (12:09):
And oh, what's what's this pivotal turn to get you
to that four and oh five and oh six and
oh whatever gets you to the playoffs to face the
Saints in the super Bowl, because that's where I'm trying
to go.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
I would love it, would love it. Uh really for us,
like our whole goal of our mantras to go.
Speaker 4 (12:25):
One and know every week is to go one, to
know like nothing outside of that nothing.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
You ain't looking a long game. It's what's today, not
at all.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
Because we got to hear about sol last year at times,
Uh just just small chatter. We're talking about big picture,
big picture, and we got to understand the task in
front of us, and we you know, Buffalo that's top
of the line program organization or a team, a defense.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
Uh so we got to come with.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
You've been you've been over in Miami for two years now.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
Bro.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
Was there a significant difference.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
What is the difference between like a guy like Sean
Payton and Mike Daniels, Mike McDaniel as a head.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
Coach, They are different, for sure, very different. Sean was,
especially my earlier years, Sean was intense. He was great, uh, disciplinarian.
He was calling pretty much, you know, calling the shots
on everything. Mike is a different personality.
Speaker 4 (13:23):
It's unique and it was and it was kind of
put some adjusting in time to get used to when
I came over because I was a Shankan not years.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
So Mike is just.
Speaker 4 (13:35):
Very very relaxedle like he literally seemed like just one
of the hummies, Like he's a He's a very intelligent
football mind. He sees the game kind of different than
than others, very unconventional, and he's genuinely him, like the
way he talks, the way he actually speaks, the way
he moves like he just he want to have fun, bro,
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He's want to have fun. He wanted to instill kind
of for this and the guys, and you want people
to play fast. It's dope, man, Like I was blessed
to do the Shan for all the years, a Hall
of Fame coach. I love him to death everything he
taught me, and I'm extremely happy to be where I
am now trade anything.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
Yeah, So, how did it feel after getting the dub
on you on your old coach?
Speaker 1 (14:18):
Then?
Speaker 3 (14:19):
Did you say?
Speaker 4 (14:20):
What?
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Did you say? What's up after?
Speaker 3 (14:22):
Yeah? Yeah ran up on me pre game? Yeah, he
up on me pre game?
Speaker 4 (14:30):
Uh hit me a couple of times a sea.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
Get you back, yeah, get you bag, but definitely wanted
that win. Yeah, I won every win, every win, every win.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
You've played with one of the best of all times,
Drew Brees, protecting him left side lockdown for many, many years.
What does it feel like now protecting Tour. I'm not
even gonna try that last name. I'm over Yeah, exactly,
lose too.
Speaker 4 (15:06):
Is incredible, man, incredible. It's a lot of similarities between
the two. I can, I can, I honestly say that,
a lot of similarity between the two. Both similar size, they're.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Both there, both five eleven claim six foot.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
Go ahead, taller than Drew. Drew came down here.
Speaker 4 (15:23):
He came down here and hang one hund with the team,
hung with me for a while, met with Tour for
a good while, and then t size him up. Yeah,
he was so happy about that. But a lot of
similarities between them two. Man, you know, I think so
Hoighly and Drew. That's the that's the go to my eyes,
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the things that he was able to do and to
where the way he produced his production at the high
levels preparations. Insane Tour reminds me of Drew from his
his perspective, like the way he seized the fear of
what he sees the defense, the way he anticipates he's
throwing it to spots that the receiver is not there
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and and they just I mean, it's it's crazy, man.
So his his pocket presence and his anticipation tight window
throws accuracy. I promise I'm putting it in the in
the realm of Drew Brees, I see a lot of similarities.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
Who I mean, I was high on him early, man.
I mean I like what I like what he does.
He stays healthy, he could be special. I think time,
time will tell he is.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
He is, definitely, Yeah, a lot of confidence.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
Yeah, I know what I'm saying. I don't know. I'm saying.
I don't believe.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
I think he's one of the good ones, and I
think he has potential to be great, possibly if he
stays healthy.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
We just know, you never know. It's a little too early.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
Great Now quarterbacks have twenty of your careers. So he's
headed in the year five. So he's a quarter of
the way through. Like everywhere else.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
I think it's four for him, though, I think it's
your four for two.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Look, he's a fifth of the way through.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
But but tell me, you know, without doubling back, I
saw don't really want to double back on this game
because I just ain't seen it. Seventy points is just ridiculous.
The most I've ever been a part of. I think
was probably why Drew Brees was part of the Saint's
probably my rookie year. I think like mid the middle
of the season, he dropped like a sixty burger, sixty
something points maybe on the Colts, on the coats, on
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the Colts, and I was like, this is unreal. Boy,
y'all went for seventy. So that's just O D O
D Let's just I just want to know. Three fifty
on the ground, yeah, three fifty in the air. As
an office of lineman, which one of you to feel
more accomplished about the lack.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
Of pressures because y'all only let up two pressures during the.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
Whole game, or like we big dog them boys up
front and ran it. You know, we made them like it.
You know, coaches be like, we're gonna run down their
mouths and make them like it.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
And you were like, as a person, you're like, WHOA
all right? And as the office of the line and
you'd be like, yeah, you know you hit that.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
I see when I see when I see torn shoulder,
shoulder roll is coming out with it's go to.
Speaker 4 (18:08):
You know what time it is. It's I've seen Banjo
pregame in a week, you know what the turn up Benji.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
But no, so so for.
Speaker 4 (18:16):
Us offic the lineman like pass row is work, you
feel me like, that's that's objective number one. That's what
we have to accomplish. Like that, that's worked. Run game
is you get to you get to enjoy more. You know,
successful run game you get to make plays in a sense,
you know that that's my opportunity to make a first down,
to make a touchdown, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
So we love that. And passor is stressful. It's very stressful,
stressful job.
Speaker 4 (18:43):
You don't know exactly where to put it back a
big where they're gonna get rid of the ball whatever,
running back like you got tracks and you got point
of attack, you know, you know what I mean, So
you know where you're trying to create that lane and where.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
He's trying to go. So that run game is an
opportunity really make plays. That's how that's how I.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
View so like past pro is where you show off
your feet. Work plays is where you show off your dominance.
Speaker 4 (19:11):
Yeah yeah yeah, run places we get some highlights. Man,
we're trying to I'm trying to do.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
On the on the second level, on the second level,
on the.
Speaker 6 (19:20):
Second level, Okay, I got it on sail on the
first level, first level.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
Gotta be you gotta got it that. It can't be.
It has to be that term edge rush, gotta be
on the edge guy.
Speaker 4 (19:41):
Put down every spot, every spot on the field, hit
the ground.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
Tackle every every spot, the tackle, playing the four eye.
Speaker 4 (19:49):
Every spot on the field has hit the ground at
some point throughout my career.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Okay, all right, that's that's just offensive, just a fan
because I'm saying that I know.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
What you do. I know you get busy. I already know.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
All right, So which one do you prefer to? Past
past pro or run blocking? Which which were really like?
Speaker 1 (20:11):
Yeah, like, look.
Speaker 4 (20:14):
I love it, I love them both. Like I said,
the stress come with the with the past pro. You know,
like I said, you don't want to be the guy.
You don't want to be the guy to get beat.
You don't want to be the guy to get your
quarterback here. Ever, So that's that's more of a stressful feeling.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
Uh. But it's fun though. It's fun playing that game.
Speaker 4 (20:28):
It's fun getting the hands and you know, working the chests,
the chest mat, watching, studying you what you do, what
you like to do, try to take that.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
Away, you know what I mean. So it's it's fun.
Speaker 4 (20:38):
Building that game plan and going out there and trying
to execute that plan. But like I said, pastor stress
run game just when you can.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
You can have fun. Man. You have fun with the game.
Speaker 4 (20:49):
You can make plays, your playmaker, you know, create stats
just like just like the other positions.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
If somebody hit.
Speaker 4 (20:56):
To get a big run off my block, that's my run.
I want them forty five rushing yours. I just want
to put that on my man.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
Put that, Put that on you know.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
You know my theory, Bro, I've always said, nobody grew
up wanting to be an offensive lineman.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
You know, like you didn't. You didn't like young Tea
Stead at eight years old. Wasn't like I want to
be the coldest left tackle in the game.
Speaker 7 (21:19):
You on that line, man, early on that line early, Bro,
that was scarying. My post was the coach, So I
was pissed and he wouldn't let me run the ball.
I was fast.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
But like I say, let's let's take this real quick
aside here, because I ain't never heard this part before week.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
I knew you grew up.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
You grew up with the rock in your hand. You
grew up playing basketball.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
Yeah, I knew that part.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
Let's I ain't never asked the origins off the lineman
t Stead.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
Let's let's talk about this. You was a kid, You
was a jit. You was a little kid. Your daddy was.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
A coach, the head coach, and he wouldn't let you
play any other position.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
Man put me on the line.
Speaker 4 (21:56):
Man, I was high, like when I'm begging yo every
by the coach kid running the ball player receiver.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
Man saw he saw, he saw that dog and you
on the office line that you didn't see in yourself
at the time. Look, you know we lost against the Packers, right,
and I was upset, sick or whatever.
Speaker 4 (22:15):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
I didn't even know who the tackle was going to
be up until game time. I saw that his last
name was Tom, And you know what I already thought,
Can my dog Zachary Tom beat little big brother of
Cam Tom, who was a foremer of after line? Yes,
that's Cam Tom, little big brother he's tall or bigger whatever.
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I said, Oh, I know about you already.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
You ain't gotta tell me nothing, not watching no film
on him. I know him already. I know his genetics.
That's why I'm so sick.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
I ain't come out with a second that game, because
I like we talked about when you go to a
game knowing everything, like you like, oh, these are the
moves that's gonna work, and they all hitting. Like for you,
you're changing up your sets, bro, how do you decide
when you changed up your sets? By the way, because
you you're cold with with get into your spots and
also changing up your sets on how you want to
get to the spots, because I've seen you in terms
of pass pro the way you float.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
It's not like a Lane Johnson, Like Lane Johnson.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
Drops immediately back right yeah yeah yeah, and then like
you'll float out. But you also switch up these sets
where you'll try and jump them. And then when you jump,
somebody on film like Toront doesn't do as much. I'm
like yeah, because he's was like, but Toront's a dull,
Like Toront got a different mentality. Most of these office
the lineman just happened to be like fat people that
could play football.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
Toront Is like, nah, I can't.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
I came here to hoop like Toront Like, there's a
few offic the line in the league. I'm like, no,
they this is their passion and for yeah, but you
you you you probably say it. There's a lot of
people in the league in general that sometimes you be like, bro,
he's just out here because he the other people told
me he was good at it. You can tell when
people are passionate about their draft. So that's like, one
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of the things I respect about you is you're passionate
about your craft. But like, what makes you change up
your sets? What makes you, you know, give up the
interior hand versus x T, your hair, the post or
whatever whatever that terminology is.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
A man, that's that's through studying, studying being a student
of a game.
Speaker 4 (24:09):
You know, watching guys thats been successful for a long
time before me taking bits and pieces of what I
can from them, working to my streps.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
So you know, I came out as you know, really athletic.
Fast officer linement.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
Tell them about that forty times, tell them tell them
about that thing.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
Fast office lineman ever or for six nine for seven seven,
six for six five yes.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
Six nine for seven seven officials.
Speaker 4 (24:37):
Crazy, I'm faster.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
I'm saying you were lighter than me at the time
I was heaving.
Speaker 4 (24:46):
Yeah, it just comes from from studying and then as
I evolved over the years. I just want to keep
adding to my toolbox. So I work sets off season.
I worked sets on my off days. Still like today,
we got it. I got it in today, and just
trying to keep adding my toolbox. So I do them
in practice and they're successful, I'm go go do it
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in a game. So jump sets, fake cut forty five degrees, says.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
Selling the run. Vertical hand chops all as you want
to keep adding my toolbox.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
Trying that little handschop is so rude, by the way,
like that for those you know, don't know that's off
the tackle.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
You're like, you're setting this vertical set. You see an.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
Office tackle like chest pop up like it's a breastplate
is explode exposed, and what do you do? You run
a long arm for that breastplate and immediately so you
as a defensive end, you're rushing against the tackle, he
shows his chest, You hit his chest, trying to flate
that thing on contact, even if you place it right
a good office a line of great office alignment, like
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Tron is going to immediately chop your hand down before
you can get a grip on.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
The chest plate. So your whole momentum then is diving downwards.
You're going downward dog in the middle of a plate.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
And that's not what you want to be as a
defensive Like it's such a despectable because I'm like bro,
I had perfect placement.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
Almost yeah, yeah, almost.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
I want to I want to know for real. You
know we talked about just to ask you about the
locker room vibes. Who controls the ox in the locker
room and the ox I mean the auxiliary cord, the boombox,
the music played, you know, like you you you in
New Orleans locker room. You know it's it's cam Jay
in the corner time. I got the move box going crazy.
Now I'm relinquishing that this year, Like I'm letting the
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younger they want to play Young Boy twenty four to seven, I'm.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
Letting them do.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
I said, there's other there's other artists. Now I rock
with Young Boy, but like there's other artists. Give me yeah,
but we rocking Young Boy twenty four to seven. You know,
the DBS.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
Who controls the OX in the Miami locker room.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
Our young guys handle it to uh Dan and Wadle.
He probably he'd probably be OX number one. He might
be DJ one and then cater Kohu our Nickel he
he he controls the OX as well, so h but
Jele and Watle he usually he usually got the music.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
Okay, it's not it's not teach that I'm with it.
Speaker 4 (27:09):
I'm gonna play me the whole you feel me, like.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
The whole pre game, repeat all that. So no, I
don't give it, don't give me the chords up.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
I'm just saying, like, you know, there was a time
where you know, you dropped, you dropped the album headed
into a training camp and we had we had Tront
Armstead album Going Crazy, deleted my favorite songs off the
off the hardware fam And I'm still upset about this.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
You know, audio audio, I don't care.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
I don't care if it had that you know whoop
that trick vibes to it. You know what I'm saying,
that rock with the game, yeah out out there.
Speaker 3 (27:43):
Yeah yeah, you know really.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
Lily, I said he when I hit you last year,
I said hey, I said hey, Toron, you still got that,
uh that that's that little ep.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
That I like, I like you still got that.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
Man.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
I deleted off the hardware for y'all that don't know.
My man, toront Arms said, is a phenomenal rapper and
his quality has watched the growth from year what is
it year one or two when you started rapping for
Reel real to now it's phenomenal beats based boom going crazy,
lyrics going, I mean, but there was some There were
some early tracks, the little what I call hood baby anthems,
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you know, like when I'm when I'm either about to
get in a fight or about to go go to
war with my boys, like you need some of that,
you know, had that that young Tyrie on there like
boys was going crazy early on.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
Yeah, we had some.
Speaker 4 (28:27):
We definitely had some backyard basement basement style wrap me
and Me and mark ingel in the in the Closet
recording only only had one mic, so you know, we
kind of one pair of headphones to be like saying
stuff at the same time, listen to the beat at
the same time, and just trying to mark you go
all right.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
So it was it was very make it happen. Password
but now we're in the studio. Man, we interscope you
feel me? You know, No I don't.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
I don't feel tell me about it. What you mean?
Speaker 2 (28:57):
We interscotrap like you got a real deal now.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
I was like, dang you an industry planting?
Speaker 3 (29:06):
Now dang I recorded recorded? Man, they got me. You
know where it is on the man walk in Uh
whenever I'm in l A, get to it the inns.
Speaker 4 (29:16):
And then I still abby down in New Orleans, you know,
still still get that get there rocking too, so.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
That that penmanship is always there while you while you're
strapping folks on the pen on the field, you go
straight to the to the notepad after like yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:31):
Bart feel me, I gotta keep that.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
Hey, when when does that actually happen?
Speaker 2 (29:35):
Bro? Because like I've seen your work ethic, you know,
side by side for for a number of years.
Speaker 3 (29:40):
Bro.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
You're always on the field. You're always hitting bags.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
Even on your off days, you're working on your craft.
So when do you have time to do your hobbies?
Clearly music is it's a hobby for now until you retire,
and it could be a mainstream thing for real, because
you guys don't know, my man is tapped in, he's in,
He's in on the Madden. The Madden Game this year
the man got five out of six.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
Train.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
If you turn on Matter, you hear in Toronto are stead.
So I'm just letting y'all know, bars like, where do
you have time to either write these joints? Is it
an off season thing or you are you? Are you
still recording in season two?
Speaker 4 (30:10):
I really don't record much in season. I usually do
all my music off season, and I'm mostly righting, mostly
right when I'm traveling. So anytime I touch a flight
and I just I get the beasts going. I don't know,
I don't know what it is about traveling, but it
just open that creative space for me and I just,
you know, try to try to tap in and speak
with stuff substance, talk about experiences, tell real life stories,
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the things that I've seen, done or heard, you know,
and traveling always just it gets pep.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
Where I need to be got a bank in America
and it's not in America.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
Yeah, banking is not America, you fear me.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
Yeah, the lie lies so cold. There's a couple of
them lines that always going to stick out to me.
How yell us guy, do all the time tellers today.
We just know I was like I was out there
rocking the yellows like, yeah, I've got I got, I
got rapper dreams, Bro, and you out there living that lifestyle,
all right? Pivot from you heard you know the music
life because oh you know you got tracks and albums
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for days, Bro.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
Like three fire off questions. Who's your hardest match up
in terms of edge, blitzing, linebacker whatever?
Speaker 3 (31:15):
It is?
Speaker 2 (31:15):
Hardest matchup to go against your stand of eleven?
Speaker 3 (31:19):
Okay, bon Miller, Miles Gear.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
Who Who's faster? Do you think Jayleen Waddle or Tyra
Kill not toping speed?
Speaker 1 (31:26):
Acceleration break the fastest?
Speaker 3 (31:29):
Do to every single person?
Speaker 2 (31:30):
Oh yeah, okay, Okay, I don't know if I care
about I just want to know what's the what's the
meal you missed the most?
Speaker 1 (31:38):
From New Orleans?
Speaker 4 (31:41):
I'd have been really just that that Thursday Vegas, you
know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (31:46):
Like Thursday Vega or Rocking Soccer them to Vegas Rocking Socke?
Have I had them? Two more? Boy?
Speaker 1 (31:54):
The little upside down roll you feel me? Rocket sockey go.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
The lamp chops with who that shrimp lamb chops coming
from DESI Vegas with all.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
That those two the man, that's my top two restaurants
all the time.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
All right, Faker desert though, okay, last one then bread pudding,
Bread pudding or banana pudding.
Speaker 3 (32:17):
Oh yeah, that's tough. I'd probably say bread. Putting my
chef here, Tray made a variety of that.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
He got money, Tell her he got he got money.
I got his own chef.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
Nice talking to you.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
I appreciate I appreciate you, Bro, Thanks for tapping in.
Bro Hey anything you know, if you need me, I
got you. You know, I text you. I appreciate your doubt.
You know, we needed nothing else from you because you
gave me the world already. Bro, I appreciate you time.
Speaker 3 (32:48):
Love brother, always man always.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
That was my dog, Toronto Arms said, doing everything that
he did, making making it great, which separates him from
you know, just the office lineman to one of them
real dogs.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
Like he earns respect and he doesn't. He doesn't sett
up for anything less than the highest level competition.
Speaker 6 (33:14):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
But I just want to transition, man, what it's like
we talked about get off the guys to give you
know about the moves that we use when we get
off the edge. I just want to talk about the
basic foundation of what it is to be an edge rusher.
When you're on the edge, you're in your stance, and
that could be a four point which means both hands
down on the ground. That's a three point, which is
one hand is down on the ground, and some guys
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like to switch.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
It up two point.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
You know you're coming off just your feet top feet,
looking like a like a track star with no with
no with no blocks. Get off is the most important
thing for a defensive linment, and that could be switching
up tempo in terms of how are you going to
get off the ball? Or you know von Miller the
way he switches up his tempo in terms of exceletterting
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at his fastest or sometimes delaying himself so he's throwing
off office of the lineman's timing. But for me, it's
all about that true get off. It's I'm four points
to the ground, I'm keying in on where the ball is.
Center has the ball, and I already know, I've already
indicated when the senter's gonna snap. He could be on
head count or could be on the quarterbacks cadence. All
that information is being processed before the play. I know
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exactly where it wants to be hiked and when the
ball is snapped.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
That's true get off.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
That is explosion from your two point of pressure with
your feet in the ground to getting into your best
running form. It's track stance.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
You are trying to get your best get off. I e.
Von Miller and his ghost i e.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
Michael Parsons and the way he explodes off the ball
Shack Shaq Barrett. There's so many guys who have elite
get off that can win rushes without ever needing to
move because of their anticipation. Get off your stance, your alignment,
your ability to anticipate to when the ball snapped, appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
That's me too.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
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Speaker 1 (35:10):
And that's Off the Edge with Cam Jordan