March 13, 2025 • 53 mins
Marcas Grant, Michael F. Florio, and LaQuan Jones bring you the latest in the NFL’s free agency signings. They start the show with updates on Cooper Kupp, DeAndre Hopkins, and Evan Engram. Then they review the rest of the notable free agent signings.
Next, they take a look at the unsigned players from NFL Daily Host Gregg Rosenthal’s top 101 free agents list and discuss where they might sign.
Finally, they talk about who has been free agencies biggest winners and losers so far.
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Speaker 1 (00:11):
Everybody.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
It's Thursday, March thirteenth, twenty twenty five. Welcome to the
NFL Fantasy Football Podcast.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
We're also waiting for Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
It's me and your man, MG Marcus Grand joined by
Michael Florio and Lakwan Jones. I'm checking my timeline. I
haven't missed anything. Right. He still is on a beach
wearing a blanket or something right now?
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Is that what it is?
Speaker 3 (00:32):
He probably paid for that beach because you got to
pay for your beaches in Jersey for some oddre reason.
Wait really, yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Absolutely, I'm flabbergast.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
I'm flabbergasted, like I am speechless, Like what like for
the beach, Like not for parking at the beach, but
like to go on the beach.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
You got to pay.
Speaker 4 (00:51):
All the Jersey shore folks know, yes, you are paying
ten bucks twenty bucks depending on where you're going, which beach,
where you're going.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
That's why Snooky had so much trouble finding it. That
makes more.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Sense, I am. I am. I am literally flabbergasted, Like
I don't know, I've never been to a beach in Jersey.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
I can't imagine.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
It's just I'm gonna be biased here I can't imagine
as nice as an La beach, Like.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
Don't go in the water, I go to the beach
for the standing in the boardwalk into games.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
All right, okay, you.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
Know, I know the bobs are gonna get unhappy with
me for this. But uh, like, if Draymond Green was
a free agent, we wouldn't have wall to wall coverage
of where he's gonna sign. So why are we doing
this for Aaron Rodgers?
Speaker 2 (01:33):
I don't know. I honestly was thinking that same thing
this morning, like why are we letting this man hold
us hostage with coverage? Why he is forty one years old,
he is long past his peak and he's just.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
Generally a headache.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Now, like, why are we letting this man hold us hostage?
And if I'm a Steelers or a Giants fan, I'm
even more upset that this man is holding our team's hostage.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Russell Wilson should should ask him to throw hands right now?
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Yes, yeah, yes, like this is ridiculous. That being said,
I am checking my timeline to see when he inevitably signs,
because if it happens during the middle of this podcast,
we're gonna have to talk about it.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
There was nineteen quarterbacks who through four hundred or more
passes last year In like every metric, he ranks sixteen
through nineteen. I'm like he's and that includes Kirk Cousins
being in there, Like it's.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
At this point in his career he is mid.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
I don't even know if he's mid anymore.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
I mean, obviously he's a Hall of Fame career, but
at this point in his career, he is not that
same dude, Steelers, clean yourselves up.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
You're better than this.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
Like, if he wants to still play, by all means,
still play, and if teams want you that, that's cool,
but you don't have Like Peter Schrager yesterday was like,
he's going to wait a month because he knows we'll
talk about him all month, And I.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Was like, you know what, He's right, Like, you don't
have to. You don't have to. We don't have to
argue about what Stephen A. Smith said about Lebron James.
We don't have to talk about what Aaron Rodgers is doing.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
We don't.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
We are a free people who can decide what we
talk about. We don't have to, like I said, though,
repeating that being said, all right, we do have a
lot to talk about on the show, though, because free
agency is still going on, there are signings. We will
catch you up on the latest fantasy relevant free agent moves.
Also going to talk about some of the guys that
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are still out there. Against my better judgment, I am
going to talk about some of the guys who are
potentially still out there, knowing that the way things happen
that by the time we finished this show, or by
the time you listen to this show, some of these
things could have changed. We'll also dive into some of
the winners and losers of free agency so far, understanding that, look,
(03:45):
there's still more guys to sign, there's still the draft.
Things can change, but you know, we got to feel
about an hour, so this is what we're gonna do.
Let's start, though, with some of the latest updates. When
it comes to player movement around the NFL. The Rams
apparently unable to it's like a deal to trade Cooper Cup.
They are going to release him, so he's going to
be a free agent. So I add one more wide
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receiver to Wells already a very shrinking wide receiver pool.
I don't know, I feel like we've sort of talked
about this a little bit, although I guess now that
potentially he's a free agent. Qu On, I saw you
mentioned yesterday that you think the Jaguars would be a
nice fit for Cooper Cup.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely with William Cohen, he knows
his work, man. I mean, they have a vacated spot
for you, a veteran to sit in that slot position.
I mean, I love Parker Washington, but I think Cooper
Cup you can get a lot more out of him,
and he doesn't have to be the wide receiver one,
So I think it would be a nice plug and fit.
So you have Trevor Lawrence since twenty twenty one, he's
top five and targeted in the slot position. It's obviously
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his favorite position to be targeting. You got rid of
two of his most familiar guys in Evan Ingram and
Christian Kirk. It just makes too much sense that you
could put him there in their work.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Is it going to hurt your heart to have to
share for Trevor Lawrence? Yes, it will.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Let's get him on the Patriots. Man May needs someone
to throw the ball, right. Yeah. I really feel like
Drake May and Cooper Cup could be something as well too.
Speaker 4 (05:12):
Man like I would love to see that and be
able to root for Drake May and Cooper Cup.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
It does fit a certain Patriot aesthetic too, having Cooper
Cup there with Drake May throwing him the football. Though
he's a little too tall Cooper Cup to be a
prototypical Patriots slot receiver, right, He's he's a little bit
too too tall for that to happen, you know, so
we'll see. I mean, but Florial, if you know, wherever
(05:38):
he lands, whoever he's with, is he still a wide
receiver one?
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Or has he has? That ship sailed on Cooper Cup.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
That ship has long sailed And I had hope for
him last season coming into that that he could Uh.
I didn't think he would be like, you know, the
Triple Crown winner or anything like that, but I thought
like he could be. It could be one A one
B him and Pooka Nakula and like they would be
very close and Cooper Cup was going a couple of
rounds later. But that wasn't the case. Like I know,
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Cooper Cup started the year when he came back really hot,
but he faded and faded as the year went on,
and there was a stretch where it was just really
hard to use him. So I think he is at
this point more of a complimentary piece in real life
and in fantasy. But you know, he's the name Cooper Cup.
People in August are going to see it and they'll
probably pull him up the board a little bit because
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they'll be like the middle rounds or whatever, and someone
will be like, Cooper Cup is still here? Give me
that all day.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Yeah, it's very interesting.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
The very astute, very very wonderful Arif Hassan can follow
him on social media. He didn't make the point that
there's been a lot of hubbub over Cooper Cup, a
guy who has one All Pro season right now, amazing.
It was an amazing season, right and he ended up
with a Super Bowl MVP. But really, I mean, you look,
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he's got two one thousand yard seasons in his career.
He's got two seasons with double digit touchdowns. He's been
great eight for fantasy. But it does seem like the
hype is a little bit outsized for what statistically he
has done in his career. I'm not asking you. I'm
not asking you to do this. I'm not asking you.
I'm not asking you, that's all.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
I'm just pretty wild he is two one thousand yeard
seasons and two double digit touchdown seasons and one one
hundred catch season. But that year he blew all almost
two thousand and sixty like it was the best wide
receiver class a year of a generation. But besides, that
means more to us than the numbers.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Man, I look at he was obviously very good for
the Rams.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
He helped them win a Super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
But yeah, I mean, I think when you take a
step back and you sort of look at the entirety
of his career, that you know, maybe it's not what
we've hyped it up to be against I'm not asking.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
Hall of famer, not an NFL Hall of Famer, Yes,
a start that. Yet, man, he's not an NFL Hall
He's he thought about this and I'm not going to
say it out loud or accept what you guys are
saying right now. Means more to us as guy.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Absolutely, he's the solely a ring of honor guy.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
If you guys, if the Rams want to retire number
ten or whatever, have at it.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
No, David Wright means more to me than any baseball
player ever. The Mets are retiring number five. He's not
a Hall of Famer though I can accept that.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Yeah, I cannot.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
As on the lot in the last two shows, Laquana
has tried to put both Matthew Stafford and Cooper cup
just no questions asked in the Hall of Fame said personally, yeah,
but I mean Lakwan was just like, you know, lockdown, solid,
no discussion about it.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
I'm like, you didn't like with a Hall of Famer.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
Though, I guess true. I guess that's true. That works.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Speaking of big time wide receivers, I don't know if
de Andre hopped you is a Hall of Famer necessarily,
but he's had a very good career now it appears
he is. It's the ring chasing portion of that career
was with the Chiefs last year, now is signing with
the Ravens one year, six million dollars. I mean, Florio
obviously his best days are sort of behind him. He's yeah, look,
(09:22):
I don't know that he's you know, he's not taking
a downgrade in quarterbacks going from Patrick Mahomes to Lamar Jackson.
But realistically, what can we expect out of dere Hopkins
for Fantasy Now?
Speaker 3 (09:31):
This reminds me of like Julio Jones on the Titans
or the Bucks, or aj Green on the Cardinals. Stuff
like that, where like a big name, aging wide receiver
is at a point where fans are gonna hope that
he could get back to what he once was, But
I think realists know that those days are behind him.
He's gonna be thirty three at the start of the season.
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Last season, he struggled to stand out on a Chiefs
team that was desperate for a wide receiver to out.
He's had declining metrics the last couple of years, and
I had some one of my mentions being like, he's
literally a year removed from being a thousand yard receiver,
and it's like, yeah, but it took one hundred and
fifty targets for him to break a thousand yards. He's
not going to get one hundred and fifty targets on
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this Ravens offense. So I even had someone of my
mentions be like, I take him in the sixth, seventh round,
and I think there's going to be hyped there us fantasy.
You know, sikos no are going to be like no.
But the average fan is going to see DeAndre Hopkins
teaming up with Lamar Jackson and get very very excited.
But I'd rather say Flowers. I'd rather a Shad Bateman.
(10:37):
I would rather the tight ends. I think he's at
a point where he's a contributor. He's a leader in
that locker room, and he provides valuable depth because the
Ravens were very thin at receiver behind their top two.
But I don't think for fantasy he really moves to
needle much.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
We also have to stop and look, I admit that
I did this earlier in this very own podcast, but
we do have to stop the obsession with thousand yard seasons.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
Like we need and we need to bump that up.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
We do over seventeen games. One thousand yards is less
than sixty yards a game. It's like fifty eight and change. Right,
that's not great, but like it's just not so like,
I don't know, we got we gotta raizor experence. I
don't know, call twelve hundred yards?
Speaker 1 (11:17):
Is that fair?
Speaker 3 (11:18):
Twelve hundred? Twelve hundred?
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Okay, you know, I'm gonna do some quick math because
I'm not greated math. So twelve hundred that's seventy seventy
yards a game. That's a little more.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
It doesn't matter.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
He's not getting that on the Ravens. I mean, the
Ravens don't value wide receivers and I hate that its
sounds that way. I don't know another way to put it,
but they just don't. They're not priority and for fantasy,
like you get lucky with a Flowers with him being
a flex wide receiver three option, and it's like, yeah,
that's great and all, but you add DeAndre Hopkins to
(11:50):
this just definitely does not move the needle at all.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
For me.
Speaker 4 (11:52):
I really feel like he's gonna be same, same, but different,
but still the same Raven. It's not gonna be any
different from last season. But Fourio's right, and I feel
like that's why it's our job to sway the consensus
of the fantasy guys out there and girls and just
understand like the name does not you know, should it
should not still sell. You should look at the product
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of what it's been in the last couple of years.
Once he signed to the Titans, I said it, I
think it's over, it's done. It's been a great run
for DeAndre Hopkins.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
I mean, I guess, yes, under the guys that do
no harm. If we're taking our fantasy hippocratic oath. Yes,
we should try to sway the hearts and minds of
other folks out there, or we could just let them
draft Dedre Hopkins in the sixth round and we reaped
the benefits. We can reap the benefits, like you know.
So it just depends on how petty you feel in
any given day, how you kind of approached the situation, Lakwan.
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You mentioned Evan Ingram. He has left Jacksonville, he is
going to Denver, signs a two year, twenty three million
dollar deal with the Denver Broncos. My first response is
that I was on the network a couple of days
ago for free Agency Frenzy, and they asked me about
rookie playmakers or where they'd like to go, and I
sort of suggested, like, hey, it'd be cool if Tyler Warren,
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the star tight end at Penn State, landed in Denver,
because Sean Payton has been trying to make.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
It happen with the tight end position for a while.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
And I'm not talking about all the Taysom Hill nonsense,
but sure we could talk about the Taysom Hill nonsense.
But whether it was you know, Juwan Johnson there you
get to Denver, they try to make it work with
Greg Dulstich, with Adam Troutman, nothing really happened. I thought
Tyler Warren would be a really nice addition for bow Knicks.
Instead it's Evan Ingram. I mean, ol Q he was
He did have one hundred catches one hundred and fourteen
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catches just a couple seasons ago. I don't expect that
in Denver. But can he be say a low end
tight end one with the Broncos some weeks I would
say that all.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
It's just more so Sean Payton. Rotation of players, like
that's what scares the heck out of me. Like even
you saying, like them signing Evan Ingram, I don't know
if that turns them off from the draft because it's like, Okay,
you got Jervonte Williams, you have Jalen McLain, Like you
have these players, and I don't understand why you're rotating
them and drafting all your estimate.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
You have these wide receivers. Marvin Mims. We keep pounding
the table for him to be a consistent starter, but
he's coming off the field for most of the time.
So who's to say this is different? At the tight
end position, and we obviously know Sean Payton is going
to do what Sean Payton wants to do.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
You just you just made me sad at the idea
of them signing of An Ingram and drafting Tyler Warren
like that, just you know, because like I felt that way. Look,
I felt that way about the Raiders drafting brock Bowers.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
We see how that worked out.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Although you know, Michael Mayer is not a thing anymore
like I thought. You know, I thought Michael Mayer could
actually be a really productive tight end. It's not gonna
happen as long as brock Bowers is breathing. It just
makes me wonder, what, you know, if they drafted Tyler Warren,
which isn't if there's a good chance he won't even
be there when the Broncos are on the clock, what
that propefully could mean.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Hopefully he won't be there.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
Yeah, hopefully he goes to a team that will utilize him.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
As the guy they'll actually use him. That's fair, that's fair.
We'll see how that happens. The Panthers signed Ricodoudele to
a one year deal. Floya, I asked you the other
day about Javonte Williams going to Dallas and you basically
said it's rip Rico Dawdell, So obviously the Cowboys decided
they are moving on. I don't know that I can
get excited about this, considering what we saw from Cuba Hubbard.
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I also wonder, if you know, if I'm a Dynasty
player and I have Jonathan Brooks, should I hit.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
The panic button on this right now?
Speaker 2 (15:27):
No?
Speaker 3 (15:28):
I don't think so at all for either one of
those players. I think the Panthers have made it clear
for the last few years now that they want to
have two running backs there because that's kind of what
the NFL has been. Unless you have like an absolute
workhorse running back, you need a good second running back.
And last year they made it pretty clear they thought
it was going to be Cuba and Brooks, and they
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had Miles Sanders there the year prior and last year,
but Brooks has already come out and said he's not
playing twenty twenty five, so they needed a one year
stopgap to kind of be that in insurance for Cuba,
and and Rico Daddle kind of fits that. Like I've
seen people on Twitter saying, like maybe he he could
be a bigger thorn in the side than any of
the other running backs were last year, but we know
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how it played out. I'm much less worried about Rico
stealing the job that I was Brooks, so I actually
feel good about Cuba Hubbard heading into next year. And
one interesting angle from this is Rico signed for the
same amount of money as Javonte Williams. So the Cowboys
just straight up picked Javonte over Rico, who they knew,
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who they had in the building, who just had a
thousand yards for them. So that is always very telling
of a player. But my takeaway from it was kind
of like Javante is a better pass catcher. Maybe they're
the Cowboys. I think they're gearing up to draft a
running back early in the draft this year and make
Javonte kind of the complimentary piece.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
Are you trying to get me back in on Javonte
Williams to that, which, no, right.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
He could be he they I think they think there's
more upside there, but they're probably drafting a running back.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
Yeah, well, I mean I guess it's that's true. Let's
see what happens if they because they draft Ashton gent
then you know, all bets are off.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
If they don't, though, then MG, I fully expect you
to be back in. Quietly, he won't publicly say it,
but he will have a lot. Okay, look at it.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
If I'm back in at some point, I'll put it
out here on this show. Like you know, I just like,
I just need some time with my thoughts. I need
some alone time.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
You look at MG's teams at the end of August,
you're like, hell, you have Javonte Williams on every team.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
You got a lot of you know, like you looking
at my underdog, you know, roster personages is like, wow,
I got Javonte Williams on like eighty percent. Like that's
happen again. A few other signings to run through. I'll
just list these all. You guys can tell me if
there's any of these that sort of gets you excited
at all. This one just hitting just a few minutes ago,
where he Moster signs with the Raiders. Mike Williams is
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going back to the Charger, so he's back in Los Angeles.
Kenneth Gainwell signs a one year deal with the Seattle
Seahawks in v or with the Steelers. I should say
Gay Gainwell goes to the Steelers MVS. Marcus Valdez Scantling
is going to the Seahawks on a one year deal.
Van Jefferson, I will admit I was once a Van
stand Those days are behind me. But he is signing
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a one year deal with the Titans. Trent Sherfield gets
a two year contract with the Denver Broncos. Jalen Rager,
who will forever be tied to Justin Jefferson in NFL
draft history, agreed the terms with a on a contract
with the Chargers. Nick Westbrook A Keene goes to the
Miami Dolphins. Joey Bosa making it in here in this
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list mostly because he went to the Bills. And I'm
sure if Florida you're the one who put this here
in the rundown I did not, all right, And Mason Rudolph, look,
I don't have full control over Sometimes I walk away
and things show up in the rundowning.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
Mason Rudolph is coming back to Pittsburgh two year deal
for eight million dollars. So Florio, aside from the Joey
Bosa going to the Bills, anything here that moves the
needle for.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
You one and not in the way you would expect.
I'm happy to see Kenneth Gainwell end up on the
Steelers because this was a really interesting week for Jalen
Warren because the Steelers choose to tender him and keep
him there, but they let Najie Harris walk and they
didn't bring in another significant running back like Kenneth Gainwell
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is what he is at this point. He's a quality backup,
but he has to still survive the draft, which is
the hardest, biggest hurdle for incumbent running backs this year.
But Jalen Warren right now, his stock is definitely shooting
up after free agency.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
Uh yeah, no, I'm with you because when I first
sawt I was kind of like, oh no, and then
I was like, well maybe not, you know, like maybe
it's just sort of a stop gap sort of measure
here for the Steelers, and then maybe's still the Jalen
Warren show anything among that group for you, Lakwan, that
was of note.
Speaker 4 (19:50):
I'm happy for Van Jefferson because I was a Van
stand but that's for real life football, but for fantasy
I think you can look ever he moistered as like Okay,
you know, like I feel like he thinks he still
has someone to tank, but the Raiders are most likely
going to be like a run first offense. So if
he gets some touches, I'll take a late round stash
start on him. Man, just just being a fan of
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what he's done. You know, these last couple of seasons
in Miami, I mean, Raheem must.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
Start was a thing. So I do want a quality back.
If he's healthy this season and he gets on a
run first offense, he gets some opportunity.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
Hey why not?
Speaker 2 (20:26):
Yeah, I mean I think the Reheem must start days
are probably done.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
But again, all of.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
This is pending what else happens between now and say
the start of training camp. I don't see why he
wouldn't get touches over some mere whites. Or is Alexander
Madison going to come back?
Speaker 3 (20:48):
Alexander Madison.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
Alexander Madison, I don't know if he's coming back. You know,
we had we had a great couple of weeks with
Sincere McCormick. I mean that was fun, like two weeks.
So he got so, I mean at least right now
where he moster looks like the number one back on
this roster, and then we'll see what the Raiders sort
of decide to do still a lot of guys hanging
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out there, a lot of notable guys hanging out there.
Decided to comb through Greg Rosenthal's list of the top
one hundred and one free agents, talk about the guys
that are still available, and hopefully they're still available by
the time you guys listen to this podcast, So this
is all still relevant to take a break, talk about
that coming up.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
Next on the NFL Fantasy Football Show.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
So of all the work that we do around here
around free agency, maybe the most valuable piece of content
that comes out every year is Greg Rosenthal's list of
the top one hundred and one free agents. You can
find that on NFL dot com. He lists to them
at the start of the free agency period and it
is updated as guys sign. So decided now that we
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are a couple of days into this and we've had
a lot of movement, to go back through his top
one hundred and one free agents and talk about the
guys that are still available that are going to be
fantasy relevant.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
There have been some changes.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
I mean, there were three guys that were on the
list yesterday when I built this rundown that I got
taken off the list because they signed between then and now,
but still a handful of guys of note here, so
I want to go through some of them. At number
eleven on Greg's list is Amari Cooper, and I want
to ask you about in Florida because he was with
the Bills last year. It was not a great tenure,
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although you know, there's some talk that maybe he was
not one hundred percent healthy. But the history of Amari Cooper,
both in real football and fantasy football, has been sort
of a boom or bust on, one year off, one
year sort of guy. Obviously, he is on the wrong
side of thirty at this point. He's going to be
(22:46):
thirty one in June. Don't know where he lands. I
don't know if you have a good landing spot for him,
but it does feel like the days of Amari Cooper
has more than say a third wide receiver in fantasy
are probably over.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
Yeah, I agree with that, and I wouldn't be surprised
if he wasn't fully healthy during his I know he
did have a he was dealing with, like a hand
issue that actually caused him to miss some time, but
the usage was really weird throughout the playoffs and everything.
I think the days are gone of him being a
true dominant like ex wide receiver number one in the NFL.
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But I still think he's got some good ball left
in him. I think he could be a field stretcher
if nothing else, and a veteran leader, a name that
still demands defensive attention because that's what he did more
than anything for the Bills last year. So I've since
the start before free agency, I've been like, just put
him on the Patriots like they and I know it's
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but like they have a good young quarterback a ton
of money, and they really need playmakers around him. The
only reason I could see Amari Cooper being unsigned at
this point is because he's probably asking for more money
than teams. Well, it's not like no team wants to
sign him, it's just probably coming to a financial number
that makes sense for both sides.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
I'm imagining now the Patriots like a scalper outside of
a sporting event, like, Hey, anybody want a contract? Any
wide receivers looking for a contract, contracts contract, need a contract,
and so far no takers.
Speaker 5 (24:16):
They almost got Chris Godwin, at least Collins. They almost
got Chris Godwin. If you believe the stories there. I mean,
I don't know if top of your head look on
if you have a good fit for a Mari Cooper,
like I'm scrolling and I don't.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
I don't immediately see for him anywhere.
Speaker 4 (24:34):
Set him back to Dallas, send him back to Dallas.
Man him and CD can run it up again and
see what happens. I mean, I just feel like it
is the asking price. He probably wants more than ten,
and we just signed to to at Well for ten.
I don't know if we're gonna get in that ball
range of Amri Cooper right now, who's just been decreasing
in multiple wide receiver categories that matter to show that
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he could be productive. So it's like one of those
things that it goes back to Dallas. He could still
be somewhat of a help as a name that you
have to watch on defense, and he knows somewhat of
what they kind of wanted to do over there Dak.
I think he could support. I think, you know, CD
and him could really get it going. But overall, I
don't see a right fit for him, like nail on
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the head, like he needs to go there right now.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
Yeah, I mean, I guess that's possible. I just wonder
if they would do that after they've already moved on
from Brandon Cook's. Like it just, you know, like I
don't know if they would want to. Yeah, I don't know,
you know, I just I just don't see an easy answer.
I just don't see an easy answer for Amari Cooper,
And maybe it is money. They just don't seem to
be a lot of obvious fits for him at this point.
Stefan Diggs at number twenty seven, who missed a good
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chunk of the season after an injury early on in
the year, now Florida. Rosenthal's suggestion was, maybe Diggs just
goes back to Houston for another year and they try
to run it back with that group, especially they're trying
to figure out what someone want to thank l But
he does seem like sort of like another one that
really has a no obvious fit. Oh, I think you
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mentioned did you mention Dallas was one? If you mentioned
Dallas the other day, that's where I.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
Want him to go. Yeah, team up with his brothers,
rehab knee injuries together, exactly the number two for CD.
I don't think Diggs is a number one anymore. I
think he's a number two, and I think he can
win quickly on like short to intermediate routes. He was
already losing his downfield speed his final year as a Bill.
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Now he's two years or moves from that and a
knee injury. Like, I still think he could play, but
I think he has to have like kind of a
very defined role and opposite of CD lamb life is
is a lot easier than opposite of a lot of
other wide receivers. So I think that's the spot where
he could go and still succeed.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
That is very true. That is very very true.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
Yeah, I mean, I think I think Diggs will find
a home. You know, it's just a matter of where
he fits in. I just wonder if, at this point
in his career, if maybe he's gonna sort of, yeah,
tone down the diva thing a little bit, just so
we can stick somewhere.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
I know, look, I.
Speaker 3 (27:06):
Can't quit it or something like that.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
Now, that was the rumor that he was dating Cardi B.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
You think his ego is gonna get smaller?
Speaker 1 (27:18):
Good point, very good point.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
Number fifty three on Rosenthal's list is Jameis Winston lakwan
hear me out on this What if we send Jameis
Winston to Pittsburgh.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
Yes, I love it. I love it. Pittsburgh fans will
not love that. But for fantasy purposes, you need somebody
that's going to be able to handle someone and make
the good spirits in that locker room with the crash bros.
And he he's going to chuck it up to both
of them and they're gonna enjoy it.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
That's the part I like is that he's stand back.
You got two guys who can stretch the field. You
want a quarterback who's just gonna throw that yolo ball
and have a short goal old fish memory if things
go bad, Yeah, if that's Jamis, that's Jamus to me.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
And then I have two strong personalities in his face
raging red, he's gonna sit there, We're to smile, like, all.
Speaker 4 (28:10):
Right, brothers, let's get this going, let's get this together.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
Anything, they're gonna rage and be upset, and then Jamis
will say something that's so cosmic and bonkers they'll be
just like what.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
And then here's the whole situation.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
I love that he's the highest ranked quarterback on this
still on this list, but there's like zero percent chance
he gets a starting job.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
Yeah, I mean that's the thing.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
Like, I just don't I don't see him going going
towhere to your starting job.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
Maybe depending on what Aaron Rodgers does, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
Maybe he ends up going to the other spot.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
Right, If Rogers goes to Pittsburgh, then Jamis goes to
the Giants or vice versa, Like maybe that's a possibility.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
I've kind of thought it's like Russ is in that pisode,
like whatever Rogers goes, Russ goes to the other one
is but who knows.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Possible, which is a perfect transition because Russ is at
number fifty six, just a couple spots behind Jamis on
Rosenthal's list. I mean, Floyo, I've been saying that Russ
going back to Pittsburgh makes the most sense. It seems
like the Steelers have just sort of decided that they
have moved on from Russell Wilson. If that's the case,
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I just don't know where it is. I mean, the
Giants seem to be the only other real option out there,
and I.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
Just don't think he's a fit with the Giants.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
Yeah, And I'm becoming more and more convinced that the
Giants are going to be in the quarterback market come
this draft class if they can get one of the
top two. So at that point, what is Russ coming
in to start for a handful of games and then
kind of transition out. So I think he's really hoping
Rogers picks the Giants and he could go back to Pittsburgh.
Because I agree with you, Marcus. Not only do I
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think there's a legit debate over which one of those
two quarterbacks are better at this point in their career.
I don't in my opinion, it's not a question of
which one is a better f for that team. Because
Russell Wilson has played with DK Metcalf, he has played
with George Pickens. He can throw those moonballs down field,
like you were talking about. Both of these guys are
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deep ball specialists. Aaron Rodgers. Last year, I believe of
quarterbacks who through fourteen four hundred or passes or more
had the lowest air yards per target. I'm double checking
that real quick. But like, oh he was eighteenth of
the nineteenth sorry, So like he's not airing the ball
out hes all quick slants and stuff, So like it
doesn't fit that skill set. Of the receivers that you
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have and one that you just paid a whole bunch
of money. So I don't really get it.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
Yeah, don't. I don't understand. It's just it.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
I guess I feel differently if they were roster building differently,
but they have built a roster that seems more suited
to what Russell Wilson does.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
But they don't want Russ.
Speaker 4 (30:51):
So I don't really understand my dark horse and all
this is probably the Titans. They need a quarterback, and
we're not hearing much about them taking one off the
board at the number one spot, like we've heard that
they're they're open to move they're open for Carter the
defensive player, and they're open to move down. So it's
like we're not hearing like they're in the race for
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a quarterback right now, like of a Kirk Cousins or
Russell Wilson or even Aaron Rodgers. I think, you know, Russell,
that moonball to Calvin Ridley. That's all that Will Levis
and Colm Ridley were able to actually produce and connect on.
So if Russell wants to be like a starter and
not have as much pressure as the New York pressure
or even with DK Metcalf or George Pokin.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
Just chill out Tennessee Brown the moon Ball to Calm
Ridley and just hang out. Like I really feel like
it will be a chill metal spot.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
Do you want to If you want to be left
to your own devices and you just play football, Tennessee
is the spot for you.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (31:48):
I have been operating like they have kim Ward already.
I could be wrong, but I think they're not being
in the market at all for a quarterbacks because they
already know who their quarterback is going to be.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
Maybe as a now, looking at the depth chart on
our lads, Will Levis is the only quarterback on the roster.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
That cannot that cannot stand it, just can't you know,
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
I mean I've seen a lot of Abdua Carter mock
to the Titans at one. It could also be Look,
I mean, depending on what you want to do, knowing
that there are some quarterback needy teams behind you, you
trade down a couple of spots. Maybe you trade down
with the Giants and you still get your if you
really want Carter trade down with the Giants they take
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a quarterback at one. The Browns take a quarterback at two,
you still get Carter at three.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
And then Travis Hunter to the Patriots. I like that scenario.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
We got it all worked out. We have it all
worked out. Number sixty three on the list.
Speaker 3 (32:53):
JK.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
Dobbins coming off of a career year, a career year
when I think most of us were just hoping, hey,
maybe he can just stay healthy and bet a little
bit productive. Instead, he really was the focal point of
the Chargers running game. Chargers, of course bring in Najee
Harris that lakwans Andy suggests that they are not going
to be back in on JK. Dobbins again for this year.
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I mean, I guess anything's possible, but it seems really,
really unlikely. It seems hard for me to find an
easy landing spot for Dobbins right now, just because the
running back class in this draft is so deep, Like
it feels like at this point, Yeah, if he doesn't
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find a spot in the next day or two that
Dobbins might have to wait till after the draft.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
Before anybody really comes calling.
Speaker 4 (33:44):
Yeah, that's definitely a possibility. But I got him pegged
to the Bengals. I think that would be great fit
for him because they're looking for fish and runner, a
hard runner like them going to trade out for Klill
Herbert was very telling of what they honestly think about
Chase Brown. And it's not like a huge knock to
Chase Brown in his ability ways able to do because
he cleaned up that back of the season as like
an RB one. But it's more so the longevity of
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this backfield than how the direction of this league is going.
It's going one two punch and they want a guy
that's gonna be like, we could just run him for
let's say, you know, twenty touches and then Brown they
split that up. I really feel as though JK Dowm
still has something in the tank. Thirteen games, nine hundred yards. Man,
if he would have had a full season, we'll be
talking about JK would damn there eleven hundred and twelve
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hundred yards and a couple more touchdowns. But I feel
like that one two punch that could definitely work and
the Bengals, it depends on how the draft falls with
some of these deep running backs in this class. Might
have to wait and you know, and see what happens.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
Yeah, I mean, you know, from a fan standpoint, you're
sitting an Ohio state guy back to the State of Ohio,
which you know, whatever it's worth is something notable for sure.
Speaker 4 (34:51):
Sign him.
Speaker 3 (34:52):
I find a I don't see where JK goes and
he gains fantasy value, Like, yeah, I think last year
is going to be his career year.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
Yeah, that was kind of that was gonna be my
question to you, Like, it feels like what we saw
last year is sort of the ceiling for JK.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
Dobbins.
Speaker 3 (35:09):
Everything broke right for him, like he for the most part,
stayed healthy, even though he did miss some time. There
was literally no running back in that room that they
felt could compete with him, Like Gus Edwards was dust.
They didn't really trust him on Evendell, and then he
was on an offense where he knew the system very
well because he played with the OC before and they
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were very run heavy. I just I really this morning
was trying to think about like where he could end
up and I'd feel better about him, and I'm like,
there's literally not a spot I could think of.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
Yeah, I mean, I'm just again, I'm sort of looking
and just trying to game it out, and I'm with you, like,
I just don't see a spot where he goes, because
at this point, I think wherever he goes, at best
he's in a timeshare with somebody else, he's going to
hurt somebody's fantasy value.
Speaker 4 (35:56):
So yeah, yeah, that's kind of the reality.
Speaker 2 (35:59):
Yeah, I mean, I'm like so looking last year had
one hundred and ninety five carries understanding that you know,
he was brought in to sort of split with Gus Edwards.
Speaker 1 (36:07):
He missed four games with injury.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
You know, I think I think one hundred and fifty
hundred and eighty carries probably the ceiling for him at
this point, depending on where he goes, you know, and
he's gonna have to split time.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
With with whoever it is.
Speaker 3 (36:22):
Unfortunately, I know, we're seeing teams pay more and more
running backs, and good for them, but like, this is
the worst scenario for Dobbins because he's not one of
the elite running backs and it's a very deep running
back class. So like you could be like, do I
want to pay this this guy who's missed a lot
of time big money, or do I just draft a
running back in the fourth round?
Speaker 1 (36:42):
Right?
Speaker 2 (36:43):
I know, again, that's that's what I'm saying, Like, if
it doesn't happen the next day or two.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
Like, I just don't know that JK.
Speaker 2 (36:49):
Dobbins gets a call until after the draft, and seems
are sort of looking at their running back rooms and
trying to figure out where.
Speaker 1 (36:55):
To fill in the gaps.
Speaker 2 (36:57):
Elijah More number eighty on the list, I mean, Florida.
Speaker 1 (37:02):
I don't even know what to say about Elijah Moore anymore.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
You know, it didn't happen with the Jets, didn't really
happen with the Browns. You know. Again, He's another one
who I think at this point is probably gonna just
sit out on the open market for a while. And
I don't know that he's gonna be anything more.
Speaker 1 (37:21):
Like I don't know that he has fantasy relevance really
at this point, does he.
Speaker 3 (37:25):
I mean, he struggled to find that really last year
on a Brown team that was kind of until Jerry
Judy's breakout with Jameis Winston, like they were searching for
production at receiver. And I don't know, We've seen four
years of Elijah Moore, his nine career touchdowns, He's never
reached seven hundred yards. At some point, you just got
to say, this is who that guy is, Like an
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NFL contributor for sure, like he belongs on a fifty
three man roster but doesn't belong on a twelve team
fantasy football I do have one, Like Greg Rosenthal is
so much smarter than me, But I do not understand
in what world Elijah Moore.
Speaker 2 (38:03):
Is ranked higher than the next wide receiver. Yeah, I
don't get No, I'm I'm with you on that too.
I am absolutely with you on that one. And maybe
one day we can ask Greg about it too. He
can give us, you know, his his rationale for it
is age.
Speaker 3 (38:16):
The reason i'bout to say he's twenty four. I mean
that probably makes a little sense there, I guess yo.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
I will say I remember for at least a week
or two in twenty twenty three getting sucked into everyone.
Joe Flakout took over as a quarterback at Browns and
he's like talking up Elijah Moore and how they played
together with the chests and like he was hyping him up,
and like I did sort of buy into that for
like a couple of weeks, and then like after two
weeks as a parent that like, no, it's this is
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like I think I feel like after that happened, Moore's
snap percentage went.
Speaker 1 (38:49):
Down like in back to back weeks.
Speaker 2 (38:51):
It's like, okay, this is obviously not at this point,
all right, enough with the suspense, Elijah Moore is at
number eighty the guy a number eighty three. He is
Keenan Allen. Now Lakwan. Granted it was not the best
season for Allen last year. The Bears offense did not
turned out to be as explosive as we hoped it
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would be. Allen with seventy catches seven hundred and forty
four yards. He didn't have seven touchdowns, so that was
not a terrible number for him. You know, he's thirty
two years old. He's going to be thirty three coming
up at the end of April. And I think it's
Florio's point. You know, look, he's not what he was.
He can definitely still be a big contributor for a
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real NFL team. How much of a contributor can he
be for a fantasy team?
Speaker 4 (39:38):
Though it's a gamble, and it's more so the landing
spot if anybody has interest. I mean the Seahawks, they
have open doors for wide receiver weapons and name you know,
threatening for defenses. I think him and JSN could probably work.
I mean the Bears. I honestly think you give it
a shot with Ben Johnson. I think Ben Johnson would
love to have Kenan Allen, you know, work that slot,
that work worked the middle of the field and kind
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of like try to mirror with the Lion's offense ask
or bring him to La to the Rams. I really
feel as though you have to worry about that.
Speaker 3 (40:08):
How many receivers do you need? All we need to
get back baby. But no, if Keenan Allen, if he
if he has.
Speaker 4 (40:16):
Anything that you know has to offer for fantasy, it's
probably like a wide receiver three flex, you know, like
it's one of those things that you won't be taking
them off the board with high expectations as he's your
wide receiver one or like your wide receiver two that
can get tribute every single week. It's really going to
come down to who's the quarterback throwing him the ball
and what the system and play call is going to
look like for him. Because he can still get open,
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he could still be a reliable wide receiver catch the ball,
play outside as well. It's more so what does the
environment look for him to actually produce for fantasy.
Speaker 2 (40:48):
Keenan Allen feels like one of those guys where, like
you know, the Sharps, the early drafters are probably going
to avoid him for the most part, but he'll be
that guy that in the middle to late part of drafts,
when you get more of the you know, more of
gen pop drafting, they're looking to be. Oh, Keenan Allen,
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you know, I know that guy. I remember that guy.
He's been good for me for a while. Like he'll
he'll get pulled his ADP will get pulled up when
we get to like August. Because a lot of people
you know who, yeah whatever, they have lives. Shout out
to them who are doing this oh year long. Uh,
you know, they don't necessarily are paying attention to him,
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maybe being in decline or being uh a little bit
older in his career.
Speaker 1 (41:33):
They will draft him because of that. But a lot
of us.
Speaker 3 (41:36):
It's worth noting though, that his situation was a huge decline.
I mean, going from justin Herbert to you know what
behind the ears Kayla Williams without no line and a
terrible play calling system. So it's like true, it wasn't
exactly only him, you know, Yeah, no, for sure, I
want him in Carolina, because I think he could be
better than that, Like he needs a lot of volume.
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But we've seen Adam Feeling each of the last couple
of years put up like six week stretches where he's
a wide receiver. One Keenan Allen could could still do that. Like,
so Bryce Young needs some help.
Speaker 2 (42:09):
In my head, like my first thought was, hey, you
can go to Carolina, And then it was like, are
we gonna do that again? Are we gonna send another
aging veteran to Bryce Young to like you know.
Speaker 3 (42:23):
It worked with Deonta until it didn't.
Speaker 1 (42:26):
It worked for for what like.
Speaker 2 (42:27):
Three weeks, Like it didn't last very long with Deontay Johnson. Right,
It's like it's like you have, like, you know, two
friends and like they're the only people you know who
like anime, and you're like, hey, we should match them
up and have them go out on a date, like right,
Like they may have nothing else in common, but they
both like anime. So like it's just like hey, man,
like here's a veteran receiver who's like a free agent,
Like we should send him to Carolina and let him
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work with Bryce Young.
Speaker 1 (42:50):
I'm like, let's give Bryce something. And I like Keenan Allen.
Speaker 2 (42:53):
But let's let's let Bryce Young have a guy he
could grow with instead of some handholder.
Speaker 3 (42:58):
Look, I think you draft a receiver and you bring
Keenan in to be like the veterans slot guy that
the security blanket. Like, yeah, I do want to point
out those I'm not letting this go.
Speaker 5 (43:11):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (43:12):
Keenan Allen had more yards last year than any season
of Elijah Moore's career, and he had two fewer touchdowns
last season alone than Elijah Moore's had in his career.
Speaker 2 (43:22):
I'm guessing it's an age thing. That's all it has
to be. It's got to be an age thing.
Speaker 1 (43:26):
That's all.
Speaker 2 (43:27):
Number one on one on the top one hundred and
one free agents for Greg Rosenthal is Nick Chubb.
Speaker 1 (43:33):
I'm just gonna throw this out to both you.
Speaker 2 (43:34):
I mean, I know we all would like from a
football standpoint to see Nick Chubb be successful after having
a couple of really serious injuries. But are either one
of you drafting Nick Chubb regardless of where he goes
this year?
Speaker 4 (43:48):
Absolutely not.
Speaker 1 (43:49):
I was out last year, like damn, now it's over.
Speaker 3 (43:54):
I do think he should re signed with the brown
sill like he's one of those players that should get
to go out with the team that he's been so
loyal to his whole career. Like, I don't want to
see him throw on another jersey and struggle, and then
like ten years from now, we're like, remember what Nick
Chubb was a Patriot or something.
Speaker 2 (44:08):
Like that, we start doing those like weird jerseys things
like on social media, like posting up like yeah.
Speaker 3 (44:15):
Like Maddy Ramirez on the Rays and then Nick Chubb
on like.
Speaker 1 (44:19):
Keim Elijah Wan with the Raptors, Like what what is this?
Yeah on the Jaguars. Yeah, I mean look Tory Hole
on the Jaguarks.
Speaker 2 (44:29):
I mean, Jerry Rice in a Broncos uniform just will
never sit right with me.
Speaker 3 (44:34):
Wow, yeah, they'll do it.
Speaker 2 (44:38):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (44:38):
I mean, yeah, that part.
Speaker 2 (44:39):
But on the one hand, like, wouldn't it be cool
to see Nick Chubb go somewhere and like be with
a contender, even if he's just like a you know,
reserve backup piece, Like hey, let him Jeeves.
Speaker 3 (44:49):
I feel like.
Speaker 2 (44:49):
That's the easy.
Speaker 1 (44:52):
Let him Henry, Yeah, Baltimore, Chubb deserves happiness too. Then
I could make.
Speaker 3 (45:00):
More jokes about how much help Lamar Jackson needs. You
mean the Chargers, right, the LA Chargers, I said la,
I didn't I didn't say which one.
Speaker 1 (45:07):
Need the LA Chargers? You know here horring players like Pokemon, man,
like what are you doing?
Speaker 3 (45:14):
Not even good players? Like he just wants names.
Speaker 1 (45:17):
Gotta sign them all, Like you know what he's doing, man.
Speaker 3 (45:19):
Any player that's closer to retirement. Lakwan's like come home
going in. Yeah, I had to take though for Elijah
Moore to be a RAM And I'm like, look, we
need a slot guy, man, I'm willing to take whoever
on this list.
Speaker 1 (45:33):
Man, now, let Devance play the slot.
Speaker 2 (45:36):
You're all excited about to to Well, you wanted Greg Dorts, Like,
have Greg Dors be your slot guy?
Speaker 3 (45:41):
He is held captive in Arizona right now.
Speaker 1 (45:44):
I don't know how do.
Speaker 3 (45:45):
You feel about Elijah Moore making this list? But Greg
Dorts not very But I'm pretty sure like half the
people in the building don't even know who Greg Dortch is,
so it's all right.
Speaker 1 (45:57):
But Greg Rosenthal knows who Greg Dortch is.
Speaker 3 (46:00):
Yes, but he's not worthy of the one on one.
He's at one O two, He's on the next version.
Speaker 2 (46:05):
I'm gonna I'm gonna got he's probably not at one
o two either, but if that helps you sleep at night,
then that's what we'll go for.
Speaker 3 (46:10):
You Shaid sweet him and be like, yo, where what
does Greg georch have to do to make your top
one on one?
Speaker 1 (46:15):
I'll do it. Good luck to you, sir.
Speaker 2 (46:20):
We're not done yet. We're gonna talk about some winners
and losers coming up after the break. Stick around for
more of the NFL Fantasy Football Show. So obviously there
are still guys to be signed. We just went through
a whole big list of them. One guy that I
failed to mention earlier in the show, Kyle Shanahan finally
gets Mac Jones Jones signing with the San Francisco forty
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nine ers. Apparently, the Niners and Kyle Shanahan they're just
sort of like a rehab for for broken quarterbacks. You know,
like your reputation is sort of battered, your performance has
not been great. Come on down to Kyle's house, quarterbacks,
We get y'all fixed up. We'll get you all sision
back out in the wild. You know.
Speaker 1 (47:03):
It's like the you know, the SPCA for quarterbacks or something.
Speaker 2 (47:07):
We're just gonna like get you all patched up and
we're to send you back out there again.
Speaker 3 (47:10):
So you know, the Niners and Vikings, that's that's what
they've become. And Sean McVay could be that, but instead
he's just like, I'm cool with Jimmy G for the
rest of time.
Speaker 2 (47:22):
I think. I think Sean McVay has sort of painted
himself into a corner because he got Jimmy and he's like, oh.
Speaker 4 (47:29):
He must be good at having conversation with Sean, because
I just don't get it.
Speaker 2 (47:33):
Hey, for how much money do you need? Manams posted
like a video being like he's back and it was
Jimmy G and I legit started laughing at it.
Speaker 1 (47:45):
No, I'm better or worse than the Bills. Nathan Peterman
QB one video work.
Speaker 2 (47:50):
I mean better that.
Speaker 3 (47:51):
That's the worst quarterback video. I mean they in the
middle of a playoff race started him and he threw
six interceptions. What are we doing?
Speaker 1 (47:58):
Let's talk some wayers and losers.
Speaker 2 (47:59):
Though, so far in free agency, la quantitybody that jumps
out to you is a big winner and or a
big loser. So far for the first couple of days.
Speaker 3 (48:07):
Winner for me is Baker Mayfield.
Speaker 4 (48:08):
You get Chris Godwin, back the familiarity and it puts
him back in that top ten fantasy conversation. And I
definitely think, you know, Baker Mayfield is probably as happy
as I am, you know, with my Chris Godwin shares
and my Baker shares as well. Like I'm looking at
it like, oh well we're back, you know, even with
or without Liam Cohen. I think Baker balldal and stepped
up to the play and having all his weapons ascendled assembled,
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it is going to be very important.
Speaker 2 (48:32):
Yeah. I actually I think you're right though, because everything
they keep the band back together, right the Bucks. The
Bucks are going to ride with Mike Evans and Chris
Godwin pretty much until the wheels fall.
Speaker 1 (48:41):
Off, which in terrible, man.
Speaker 2 (48:44):
I mean, we've seen what they've been able to do
the last few years, so why not sort of keep
that thing together.
Speaker 1 (48:49):
Any big winners or losers for you, Florio, I.
Speaker 3 (48:52):
Know it feels kind of repetitive because these moves happened
like right away, but I think Justin Fields, DeVante ad
naj Harris to me or the three players who gained
the most fantasy value this week from free agency, and
I think the biggest loser is Sam Donald. Yes, Yeah,
you go from Justin Jefferson, Jordan Addison, TJ. Hockinson, and
(49:15):
Kevin O'Connell's play calling system to Clink Kubiak, who's a
solid OC. But then like Jameson is awesome, but then
your wide receiver two is mvs. Your tight end is
Noah Fan, your on line has questions like it. I
don't think Sam Donald is going to be able to
repeat the fantasy success he had last year.
Speaker 2 (49:33):
Yeah, Donald was gonna be my guy, was my immediate
answer for the guy who really takes the biggest hit.
I think is just going to Seattle just does not
work out for him. And I'll say this, I think
I think Jsen sort of fits into both winner and
loser categories because he definitely gets an upgrade in target
share with both Tyler Lockett and DK metcalf gone. But
(49:54):
you know, I think we can debate whether or not
Sam Donald is a better quarterback option than what he's
had the last year or two with Geno Smith. So
I think Gino's better, you know, I think in one
respect he definitely gains. In another respect, Yeah, just I
don't know. I don't know that it really improves his
standing a whole lot. So, yeah, that was that one
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was sort of weird to me.
Speaker 4 (50:17):
It is definitely debatable, but like Florio was saying, like
I think Gino might be better in the situation, Like
I rather had stuck with Gino, didn't get Samon because
Sam is coming from the Vikings when we saw how
he finished, and he's also in the division with the
Rams twice a year every year, and the Carlins defense
gut a little bit stronger, and it's like it's not
going to be a fun time for him to be
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in that division with the guys that he has around him.
Speaker 2 (50:41):
Yeah, I will also say I think Dk Metcalf loses
in this whole two going to Pittsburgh and well just
because one they haven't decided on a quarterback yet, but
it doesn't seem like it's going to be a guy
that plays to Metcalf's strengths, right, especially if they really
are courting number twelve, that it's just not gonna really
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work out for him. But also let's keep in mind
he's going to Pittsburgh with Arthur Smith, who wants to
run the football. You know, they've got Jalen Warren there.
They bring in Kenneth Gain Well, we'll see how big
his opportunity is. But it's just not going to be
the same kind of offense that he's been in the
last couple of years in Seattle. I think, you know,
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I think for a lot of us who've sort of
been on the fence about DK Metcalf, I think this
is an easy reason to knock him down your rankings
and your draft board a little bit because it's just
not gonna be the same.
Speaker 3 (51:37):
And him and George Pickens are that they're like the
same player kind of.
Speaker 2 (51:42):
Yeah, I don't think DK metcalf is a severate employee,
but I do think that they stylistically do have a
lot in common. So but you know, look, still things
to be seen, still moves to be made. I'm going
through my timeline again, and I think we can say
we are marked from Aaron Rodgers signing in the middle
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of our show.
Speaker 1 (52:03):
So we should probably end it right here.
Speaker 2 (52:05):
We should end it right here before it happens and
you know, and be done with it. So back with
you on Tuesday again. We should probably do a mock
draft sometimes soon do another mock draft. See how things do,
see how things have changed now that free agency is
in full swing. I'm sure there have been some movements
when it comes to ADP. So maybe next week we'll
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do another mock draft that we can kind of talk
about a little bit. Compare contrast from the first one
we did about a month ago. They meantime, that'll do
it for this edition of the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast.
They happy, safe and healthy, do good and live well,
enjoy what's left the free agency. Don't let forty one
year old quarterback hold you hostage this weekend, and I
we'll talk to you again real soon.
Speaker 1 (52:46):
Wow, don't
Everybody.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
It's Thursday, March thirteenth, twenty twenty five. Welcome to the
NFL Fantasy Football Podcast.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
We're also waiting for Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
It's me and your man, MG Marcus Grand joined by
Michael Florio and Lakwan Jones. I'm checking my timeline. I
haven't missed anything. Right. He still is on a beach
wearing a blanket or something right now?
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Is that what it is?
Speaker 3 (00:32):
He probably paid for that beach because you got to
pay for your beaches in Jersey for some oddre reason.
Wait really, yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Absolutely, I'm flabbergast.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
I'm flabbergasted, like I am speechless, Like what like for
the beach, Like not for parking at the beach, but
like to go on the beach.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
You got to pay.
Speaker 4 (00:51):
All the Jersey shore folks know, yes, you are paying
ten bucks twenty bucks depending on where you're going, which beach,
where you're going.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
That's why Snooky had so much trouble finding it. That
makes more.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Sense, I am. I am. I am literally flabbergasted, Like
I don't know, I've never been to a beach in Jersey.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
I can't imagine.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
It's just I'm gonna be biased here I can't imagine
as nice as an La beach, Like.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
Don't go in the water, I go to the beach
for the standing in the boardwalk into games.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
All right, okay, you.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
Know, I know the bobs are gonna get unhappy with
me for this. But uh, like, if Draymond Green was
a free agent, we wouldn't have wall to wall coverage
of where he's gonna sign. So why are we doing
this for Aaron Rodgers?
Speaker 2 (01:33):
I don't know. I honestly was thinking that same thing
this morning, like why are we letting this man hold
us hostage with coverage? Why he is forty one years old,
he is long past his peak and he's just.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
Generally a headache.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Now, like, why are we letting this man hold us hostage?
And if I'm a Steelers or a Giants fan, I'm
even more upset that this man is holding our team's hostage.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Russell Wilson should should ask him to throw hands right now?
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Yes, yeah, yes, like this is ridiculous. That being said,
I am checking my timeline to see when he inevitably signs,
because if it happens during the middle of this podcast,
we're gonna have to talk about it.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
There was nineteen quarterbacks who through four hundred or more
passes last year In like every metric, he ranks sixteen
through nineteen. I'm like he's and that includes Kirk Cousins
being in there, Like it's.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
At this point in his career he is mid.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
I don't even know if he's mid anymore.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
I mean, obviously he's a Hall of Fame career, but
at this point in his career, he is not that
same dude, Steelers, clean yourselves up.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
You're better than this.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
Like, if he wants to still play, by all means,
still play, and if teams want you that, that's cool,
but you don't have Like Peter Schrager yesterday was like,
he's going to wait a month because he knows we'll
talk about him all month, And I.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Was like, you know what, He's right, Like, you don't
have to. You don't have to. We don't have to
argue about what Stephen A. Smith said about Lebron James.
We don't have to talk about what Aaron Rodgers is doing.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
We don't.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
We are a free people who can decide what we
talk about. We don't have to, like I said, though,
repeating that being said, all right, we do have a
lot to talk about on the show, though, because free
agency is still going on, there are signings. We will
catch you up on the latest fantasy relevant free agent moves.
Also going to talk about some of the guys that
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are still out there. Against my better judgment, I am
going to talk about some of the guys who are
potentially still out there, knowing that the way things happen
that by the time we finished this show, or by
the time you listen to this show, some of these
things could have changed. We'll also dive into some of
the winners and losers of free agency so far, understanding that, look,
(03:45):
there's still more guys to sign, there's still the draft.
Things can change, but you know, we got to feel
about an hour, so this is what we're gonna do.
Let's start, though, with some of the latest updates. When
it comes to player movement around the NFL. The Rams
apparently unable to it's like a deal to trade Cooper Cup.
They are going to release him, so he's going to
be a free agent. So I add one more wide
(04:06):
receiver to Wells already a very shrinking wide receiver pool.
I don't know, I feel like we've sort of talked
about this a little bit, although I guess now that
potentially he's a free agent. Qu On, I saw you
mentioned yesterday that you think the Jaguars would be a
nice fit for Cooper Cup.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely with William Cohen, he knows
his work, man. I mean, they have a vacated spot
for you, a veteran to sit in that slot position.
I mean, I love Parker Washington, but I think Cooper
Cup you can get a lot more out of him,
and he doesn't have to be the wide receiver one,
So I think it would be a nice plug and fit.
So you have Trevor Lawrence since twenty twenty one, he's
top five and targeted in the slot position. It's obviously
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his favorite position to be targeting. You got rid of
two of his most familiar guys in Evan Ingram and
Christian Kirk. It just makes too much sense that you
could put him there in their work.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Is it going to hurt your heart to have to
share for Trevor Lawrence? Yes, it will.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Let's get him on the Patriots. Man May needs someone
to throw the ball, right. Yeah. I really feel like
Drake May and Cooper Cup could be something as well too.
Speaker 4 (05:12):
Man like I would love to see that and be
able to root for Drake May and Cooper Cup.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
It does fit a certain Patriot aesthetic too, having Cooper
Cup there with Drake May throwing him the football. Though
he's a little too tall Cooper Cup to be a
prototypical Patriots slot receiver, right, He's he's a little bit
too too tall for that to happen, you know, so
we'll see. I mean, but Florial, if you know, wherever
(05:38):
he lands, whoever he's with, is he still a wide
receiver one?
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Or has he has? That ship sailed on Cooper Cup.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
That ship has long sailed And I had hope for
him last season coming into that that he could Uh.
I didn't think he would be like, you know, the
Triple Crown winner or anything like that, but I thought
like he could be. It could be one A one
B him and Pooka Nakula and like they would be
very close and Cooper Cup was going a couple of
rounds later. But that wasn't the case. Like I know,
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Cooper Cup started the year when he came back really hot,
but he faded and faded as the year went on,
and there was a stretch where it was just really
hard to use him. So I think he is at
this point more of a complimentary piece in real life
and in fantasy. But you know, he's the name Cooper Cup.
People in August are going to see it and they'll
probably pull him up the board a little bit because
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they'll be like the middle rounds or whatever, and someone
will be like, Cooper Cup is still here? Give me
that all day.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Yeah, it's very interesting.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
The very astute, very very wonderful Arif Hassan can follow
him on social media. He didn't make the point that
there's been a lot of hubbub over Cooper Cup, a
guy who has one All Pro season right now, amazing.
It was an amazing season, right and he ended up
with a Super Bowl MVP. But really, I mean, you look,
(06:55):
he's got two one thousand yard seasons in his career.
He's got two seasons with double digit touchdowns. He's been
great eight for fantasy. But it does seem like the
hype is a little bit outsized for what statistically he
has done in his career. I'm not asking you. I'm
not asking you to do this. I'm not asking you.
I'm not asking you, that's all.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
I'm just pretty wild he is two one thousand yeard
seasons and two double digit touchdown seasons and one one
hundred catch season. But that year he blew all almost
two thousand and sixty like it was the best wide
receiver class a year of a generation. But besides, that
means more to us than the numbers.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Man, I look at he was obviously very good for
the Rams.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
He helped them win a Super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
But yeah, I mean, I think when you take a
step back and you sort of look at the entirety
of his career, that you know, maybe it's not what
we've hyped it up to be against I'm not asking.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
Hall of famer, not an NFL Hall of Famer, Yes,
a start that. Yet, man, he's not an NFL Hall
He's he thought about this and I'm not going to
say it out loud or accept what you guys are
saying right now. Means more to us as guy.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Absolutely, he's the solely a ring of honor guy.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
If you guys, if the Rams want to retire number
ten or whatever, have at it.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
No, David Wright means more to me than any baseball
player ever. The Mets are retiring number five. He's not
a Hall of Famer though I can accept that.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Yeah, I cannot.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
As on the lot in the last two shows, Laquana
has tried to put both Matthew Stafford and Cooper cup
just no questions asked in the Hall of Fame said personally, yeah,
but I mean Lakwan was just like, you know, lockdown, solid,
no discussion about it.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
I'm like, you didn't like with a Hall of Famer.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
Though, I guess true. I guess that's true. That works.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Speaking of big time wide receivers, I don't know if
de Andre hopped you is a Hall of Famer necessarily,
but he's had a very good career now it appears
he is. It's the ring chasing portion of that career
was with the Chiefs last year, now is signing with
the Ravens one year, six million dollars. I mean, Florio
obviously his best days are sort of behind him. He's yeah, look,
(09:22):
I don't know that he's you know, he's not taking
a downgrade in quarterbacks going from Patrick Mahomes to Lamar Jackson.
But realistically, what can we expect out of dere Hopkins
for Fantasy Now?
Speaker 3 (09:31):
This reminds me of like Julio Jones on the Titans
or the Bucks, or aj Green on the Cardinals. Stuff
like that, where like a big name, aging wide receiver
is at a point where fans are gonna hope that
he could get back to what he once was, But
I think realists know that those days are behind him.
He's gonna be thirty three at the start of the season.
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Last season, he struggled to stand out on a Chiefs
team that was desperate for a wide receiver to out.
He's had declining metrics the last couple of years, and
I had some one of my mentions being like, he's
literally a year removed from being a thousand yard receiver,
and it's like, yeah, but it took one hundred and
fifty targets for him to break a thousand yards. He's
not going to get one hundred and fifty targets on
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this Ravens offense. So I even had someone of my
mentions be like, I take him in the sixth, seventh round,
and I think there's going to be hyped there us fantasy.
You know, sikos no are going to be like no.
But the average fan is going to see DeAndre Hopkins
teaming up with Lamar Jackson and get very very excited.
But I'd rather say Flowers. I'd rather a Shad Bateman.
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I would rather the tight ends. I think he's at
a point where he's a contributor. He's a leader in
that locker room, and he provides valuable depth because the
Ravens were very thin at receiver behind their top two.
But I don't think for fantasy he really moves to
needle much.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
We also have to stop and look, I admit that
I did this earlier in this very own podcast, but
we do have to stop the obsession with thousand yard seasons.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
Like we need and we need to bump that up.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
We do over seventeen games. One thousand yards is less
than sixty yards a game. It's like fifty eight and change. Right,
that's not great, but like it's just not so like,
I don't know, we got we gotta raizor experence. I
don't know, call twelve hundred yards?
Speaker 1 (11:17):
Is that fair?
Speaker 3 (11:18):
Twelve hundred? Twelve hundred?
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Okay, you know, I'm gonna do some quick math because
I'm not greated math. So twelve hundred that's seventy seventy
yards a game. That's a little more.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
It doesn't matter.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
He's not getting that on the Ravens. I mean, the
Ravens don't value wide receivers and I hate that its
sounds that way. I don't know another way to put it,
but they just don't. They're not priority and for fantasy,
like you get lucky with a Flowers with him being
a flex wide receiver three option, and it's like, yeah,
that's great and all, but you add DeAndre Hopkins to
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this just definitely does not move the needle at all.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
For me.
Speaker 4 (11:52):
I really feel like he's gonna be same, same, but different,
but still the same Raven. It's not gonna be any
different from last season. But Fourio's right, and I feel
like that's why it's our job to sway the consensus
of the fantasy guys out there and girls and just
understand like the name does not you know, should it
should not still sell. You should look at the product
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of what it's been in the last couple of years.
Once he signed to the Titans, I said it, I
think it's over, it's done. It's been a great run
for DeAndre Hopkins.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
I mean, I guess, yes, under the guys that do
no harm. If we're taking our fantasy hippocratic oath. Yes,
we should try to sway the hearts and minds of
other folks out there, or we could just let them
draft Dedre Hopkins in the sixth round and we reaped
the benefits. We can reap the benefits, like you know.
So it just depends on how petty you feel in
any given day, how you kind of approached the situation, Lakwan.
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You mentioned Evan Ingram. He has left Jacksonville, he is
going to Denver, signs a two year, twenty three million
dollar deal with the Denver Broncos. My first response is
that I was on the network a couple of days
ago for free Agency Frenzy, and they asked me about
rookie playmakers or where they'd like to go, and I
sort of suggested, like, hey, it'd be cool if Tyler Warren,
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the star tight end at Penn State, landed in Denver,
because Sean Payton has been trying to make.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
It happen with the tight end position for a while.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
And I'm not talking about all the Taysom Hill nonsense,
but sure we could talk about the Taysom Hill nonsense.
But whether it was you know, Juwan Johnson there you
get to Denver, they try to make it work with
Greg Dulstich, with Adam Troutman, nothing really happened. I thought
Tyler Warren would be a really nice addition for bow Knicks.
Instead it's Evan Ingram. I mean, ol Q he was
He did have one hundred catches one hundred and fourteen
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catches just a couple seasons ago. I don't expect that
in Denver. But can he be say a low end
tight end one with the Broncos some weeks I would
say that all.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
It's just more so Sean Payton. Rotation of players, like
that's what scares the heck out of me. Like even
you saying, like them signing Evan Ingram, I don't know
if that turns them off from the draft because it's like, Okay,
you got Jervonte Williams, you have Jalen McLain, Like you
have these players, and I don't understand why you're rotating
them and drafting all your estimate.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
You have these wide receivers. Marvin Mims. We keep pounding
the table for him to be a consistent starter, but
he's coming off the field for most of the time.
So who's to say this is different? At the tight
end position, and we obviously know Sean Payton is going
to do what Sean Payton wants to do.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
You just you just made me sad at the idea
of them signing of An Ingram and drafting Tyler Warren
like that, just you know, because like I felt that way. Look,
I felt that way about the Raiders drafting brock Bowers.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
We see how that worked out.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Although you know, Michael Mayer is not a thing anymore
like I thought. You know, I thought Michael Mayer could
actually be a really productive tight end. It's not gonna
happen as long as brock Bowers is breathing. It just
makes me wonder, what, you know, if they drafted Tyler Warren,
which isn't if there's a good chance he won't even
be there when the Broncos are on the clock, what
that propefully could mean.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Hopefully he won't be there.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
Yeah, hopefully he goes to a team that will utilize him.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
As the guy they'll actually use him. That's fair, that's fair.
We'll see how that happens. The Panthers signed Ricodoudele to
a one year deal. Floya, I asked you the other
day about Javonte Williams going to Dallas and you basically
said it's rip Rico Dawdell, So obviously the Cowboys decided
they are moving on. I don't know that I can
get excited about this, considering what we saw from Cuba Hubbard.
(15:20):
I also wonder, if you know, if I'm a Dynasty
player and I have Jonathan Brooks, should I hit.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
The panic button on this right now?
Speaker 2 (15:27):
No?
Speaker 3 (15:28):
I don't think so at all for either one of
those players. I think the Panthers have made it clear
for the last few years now that they want to
have two running backs there because that's kind of what
the NFL has been. Unless you have like an absolute
workhorse running back, you need a good second running back.
And last year they made it pretty clear they thought
it was going to be Cuba and Brooks, and they
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had Miles Sanders there the year prior and last year,
but Brooks has already come out and said he's not
playing twenty twenty five, so they needed a one year
stopgap to kind of be that in insurance for Cuba,
and and Rico Daddle kind of fits that. Like I've
seen people on Twitter saying, like maybe he he could
be a bigger thorn in the side than any of
the other running backs were last year, but we know
(16:11):
how it played out. I'm much less worried about Rico
stealing the job that I was Brooks, so I actually
feel good about Cuba Hubbard heading into next year. And
one interesting angle from this is Rico signed for the
same amount of money as Javonte Williams. So the Cowboys
just straight up picked Javonte over Rico, who they knew,
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who they had in the building, who just had a
thousand yards for them. So that is always very telling
of a player. But my takeaway from it was kind
of like Javante is a better pass catcher. Maybe they're
the Cowboys. I think they're gearing up to draft a
running back early in the draft this year and make
Javonte kind of the complimentary piece.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
Are you trying to get me back in on Javonte
Williams to that, which, no, right.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
He could be he they I think they think there's
more upside there, but they're probably drafting a running back.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
Yeah, well, I mean I guess it's that's true. Let's
see what happens if they because they draft Ashton gent
then you know, all bets are off.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
If they don't, though, then MG, I fully expect you
to be back in. Quietly, he won't publicly say it,
but he will have a lot. Okay, look at it.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
If I'm back in at some point, I'll put it
out here on this show. Like you know, I just like,
I just need some time with my thoughts. I need
some alone time.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
You look at MG's teams at the end of August,
you're like, hell, you have Javonte Williams on every team.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
You got a lot of you know, like you looking
at my underdog, you know, roster personages is like, wow,
I got Javonte Williams on like eighty percent. Like that's
happen again. A few other signings to run through. I'll
just list these all. You guys can tell me if
there's any of these that sort of gets you excited
at all. This one just hitting just a few minutes ago,
where he Moster signs with the Raiders. Mike Williams is
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going back to the Charger, so he's back in Los Angeles.
Kenneth Gainwell signs a one year deal with the Seattle
Seahawks in v or with the Steelers. I should say
Gay Gainwell goes to the Steelers MVS. Marcus Valdez Scantling
is going to the Seahawks on a one year deal.
Van Jefferson, I will admit I was once a Van
stand Those days are behind me. But he is signing
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a one year deal with the Titans. Trent Sherfield gets
a two year contract with the Denver Broncos. Jalen Rager,
who will forever be tied to Justin Jefferson in NFL
draft history, agreed the terms with a on a contract
with the Chargers. Nick Westbrook A Keene goes to the
Miami Dolphins. Joey Bosa making it in here in this
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list mostly because he went to the Bills. And I'm
sure if Florida you're the one who put this here
in the rundown I did not, all right, And Mason Rudolph, look,
I don't have full control over Sometimes I walk away
and things show up in the rundowning.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
Mason Rudolph is coming back to Pittsburgh two year deal
for eight million dollars. So Florio, aside from the Joey
Bosa going to the Bills, anything here that moves the
needle for.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
You one and not in the way you would expect.
I'm happy to see Kenneth Gainwell end up on the
Steelers because this was a really interesting week for Jalen
Warren because the Steelers choose to tender him and keep
him there, but they let Najie Harris walk and they
didn't bring in another significant running back like Kenneth Gainwell
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is what he is at this point. He's a quality backup,
but he has to still survive the draft, which is
the hardest, biggest hurdle for incumbent running backs this year.
But Jalen Warren right now, his stock is definitely shooting
up after free agency.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
Uh yeah, no, I'm with you because when I first
sawt I was kind of like, oh no, and then
I was like, well maybe not, you know, like maybe
it's just sort of a stop gap sort of measure
here for the Steelers, and then maybe's still the Jalen
Warren show anything among that group for you, Lakwan, that
was of note.
Speaker 4 (19:50):
I'm happy for Van Jefferson because I was a Van
stand but that's for real life football, but for fantasy
I think you can look ever he moistered as like Okay,
you know, like I feel like he thinks he still
has someone to tank, but the Raiders are most likely
going to be like a run first offense. So if
he gets some touches, I'll take a late round stash
start on him. Man, just just being a fan of
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what he's done. You know, these last couple of seasons
in Miami, I mean, Raheem must.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
Start was a thing. So I do want a quality back.
If he's healthy this season and he gets on a
run first offense, he gets some opportunity.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
Hey why not?
Speaker 2 (20:26):
Yeah, I mean I think the Reheem must start days
are probably done.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
But again, all of.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
This is pending what else happens between now and say
the start of training camp. I don't see why he
wouldn't get touches over some mere whites. Or is Alexander
Madison going to come back?
Speaker 3 (20:48):
Alexander Madison.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
Alexander Madison, I don't know if he's coming back. You know,
we had we had a great couple of weeks with
Sincere McCormick. I mean that was fun, like two weeks.
So he got so, I mean at least right now
where he moster looks like the number one back on
this roster, and then we'll see what the Raiders sort
of decide to do still a lot of guys hanging
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out there, a lot of notable guys hanging out there.
Decided to comb through Greg Rosenthal's list of the top
one hundred and one free agents, talk about the guys
that are still available, and hopefully they're still available by
the time you guys listen to this podcast, So this
is all still relevant to take a break, talk about
that coming up.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
Next on the NFL Fantasy Football Show.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
So of all the work that we do around here
around free agency, maybe the most valuable piece of content
that comes out every year is Greg Rosenthal's list of
the top one hundred and one free agents. You can
find that on NFL dot com. He lists to them
at the start of the free agency period and it
is updated as guys sign. So decided now that we
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are a couple of days into this and we've had
a lot of movement, to go back through his top
one hundred and one free agents and talk about the
guys that are still available that are going to be
fantasy relevant.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
There have been some changes.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
I mean, there were three guys that were on the
list yesterday when I built this rundown that I got
taken off the list because they signed between then and now,
but still a handful of guys of note here, so
I want to go through some of them. At number
eleven on Greg's list is Amari Cooper, and I want
to ask you about in Florida because he was with
the Bills last year. It was not a great tenure,
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although you know, there's some talk that maybe he was
not one hundred percent healthy. But the history of Amari Cooper,
both in real football and fantasy football, has been sort
of a boom or bust on, one year off, one
year sort of guy. Obviously, he is on the wrong
side of thirty at this point. He's going to be
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thirty one in June. Don't know where he lands. I
don't know if you have a good landing spot for him,
but it does feel like the days of Amari Cooper
has more than say a third wide receiver in fantasy
are probably over.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
Yeah, I agree with that, and I wouldn't be surprised
if he wasn't fully healthy during his I know he
did have a he was dealing with, like a hand
issue that actually caused him to miss some time, but
the usage was really weird throughout the playoffs and everything.
I think the days are gone of him being a
true dominant like ex wide receiver number one in the NFL.
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But I still think he's got some good ball left
in him. I think he could be a field stretcher
if nothing else, and a veteran leader, a name that
still demands defensive attention because that's what he did more
than anything for the Bills last year. So I've since
the start before free agency, I've been like, just put
him on the Patriots like they and I know it's
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but like they have a good young quarterback a ton
of money, and they really need playmakers around him. The
only reason I could see Amari Cooper being unsigned at
this point is because he's probably asking for more money
than teams. Well, it's not like no team wants to
sign him, it's just probably coming to a financial number
that makes sense for both sides.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
I'm imagining now the Patriots like a scalper outside of
a sporting event, like, Hey, anybody want a contract? Any
wide receivers looking for a contract, contracts contract, need a contract,
and so far no takers.
Speaker 5 (24:16):
They almost got Chris Godwin, at least Collins. They almost
got Chris Godwin. If you believe the stories there. I mean,
I don't know if top of your head look on
if you have a good fit for a Mari Cooper,
like I'm scrolling and I don't.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
I don't immediately see for him anywhere.
Speaker 4 (24:34):
Set him back to Dallas, send him back to Dallas.
Man him and CD can run it up again and
see what happens. I mean, I just feel like it
is the asking price. He probably wants more than ten,
and we just signed to to at Well for ten.
I don't know if we're gonna get in that ball
range of Amri Cooper right now, who's just been decreasing
in multiple wide receiver categories that matter to show that
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he could be productive. So it's like one of those
things that it goes back to Dallas. He could still
be somewhat of a help as a name that you
have to watch on defense, and he knows somewhat of
what they kind of wanted to do over there Dak.
I think he could support. I think, you know, CD
and him could really get it going. But overall, I
don't see a right fit for him, like nail on
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the head, like he needs to go there right now.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
Yeah, I mean, I guess that's possible. I just wonder
if they would do that after they've already moved on
from Brandon Cook's. Like it just, you know, like I
don't know if they would want to. Yeah, I don't know,
you know, I just I just don't see an easy answer.
I just don't see an easy answer for Amari Cooper,
And maybe it is money. They just don't seem to
be a lot of obvious fits for him at this point.
Stefan Diggs at number twenty seven, who missed a good
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chunk of the season after an injury early on in
the year, now Florida. Rosenthal's suggestion was, maybe Diggs just
goes back to Houston for another year and they try
to run it back with that group, especially they're trying
to figure out what someone want to thank l But
he does seem like sort of like another one that
really has a no obvious fit. Oh, I think you
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mentioned did you mention Dallas was one? If you mentioned
Dallas the other day, that's where I.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
Want him to go. Yeah, team up with his brothers,
rehab knee injuries together, exactly the number two for CD.
I don't think Diggs is a number one anymore. I
think he's a number two, and I think he can
win quickly on like short to intermediate routes. He was
already losing his downfield speed his final year as a Bill.
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Now he's two years or moves from that and a
knee injury. Like, I still think he could play, but
I think he has to have like kind of a
very defined role and opposite of CD lamb life is
is a lot easier than opposite of a lot of
other wide receivers. So I think that's the spot where
he could go and still succeed.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
That is very true. That is very very true.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
Yeah, I mean, I think I think Diggs will find
a home. You know, it's just a matter of where
he fits in. I just wonder if, at this point
in his career, if maybe he's gonna sort of, yeah,
tone down the diva thing a little bit, just so
we can stick somewhere.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
I know, look, I.
Speaker 3 (27:06):
Can't quit it or something like that.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
Now, that was the rumor that he was dating Cardi B.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
You think his ego is gonna get smaller?
Speaker 1 (27:18):
Good point, very good point.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
Number fifty three on Rosenthal's list is Jameis Winston lakwan
hear me out on this What if we send Jameis
Winston to Pittsburgh.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
Yes, I love it. I love it. Pittsburgh fans will
not love that. But for fantasy purposes, you need somebody
that's going to be able to handle someone and make
the good spirits in that locker room with the crash bros.
And he he's going to chuck it up to both
of them and they're gonna enjoy it.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
That's the part I like is that he's stand back.
You got two guys who can stretch the field. You
want a quarterback who's just gonna throw that yolo ball
and have a short goal old fish memory if things
go bad, Yeah, if that's Jamis, that's Jamus to me.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
And then I have two strong personalities in his face
raging red, he's gonna sit there, We're to smile, like, all.
Speaker 4 (28:10):
Right, brothers, let's get this going, let's get this together.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
Anything, they're gonna rage and be upset, and then Jamis
will say something that's so cosmic and bonkers they'll be
just like what.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
And then here's the whole situation.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
I love that he's the highest ranked quarterback on this
still on this list, but there's like zero percent chance
he gets a starting job.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
Yeah, I mean that's the thing.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
Like, I just don't I don't see him going going
towhere to your starting job.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
Maybe depending on what Aaron Rodgers does, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
Maybe he ends up going to the other spot.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
Right, If Rogers goes to Pittsburgh, then Jamis goes to
the Giants or vice versa, Like maybe that's a possibility.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
I've kind of thought it's like Russ is in that pisode,
like whatever Rogers goes, Russ goes to the other one
is but who knows.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Possible, which is a perfect transition because Russ is at
number fifty six, just a couple spots behind Jamis on
Rosenthal's list. I mean, Floyo, I've been saying that Russ
going back to Pittsburgh makes the most sense. It seems
like the Steelers have just sort of decided that they
have moved on from Russell Wilson. If that's the case,
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I just don't know where it is. I mean, the
Giants seem to be the only other real option out there,
and I.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
Just don't think he's a fit with the Giants.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
Yeah, And I'm becoming more and more convinced that the
Giants are going to be in the quarterback market come
this draft class if they can get one of the
top two. So at that point, what is Russ coming
in to start for a handful of games and then
kind of transition out. So I think he's really hoping
Rogers picks the Giants and he could go back to Pittsburgh.
Because I agree with you, Marcus. Not only do I
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think there's a legit debate over which one of those
two quarterbacks are better at this point in their career.
I don't in my opinion, it's not a question of
which one is a better f for that team. Because
Russell Wilson has played with DK Metcalf, he has played
with George Pickens. He can throw those moonballs down field,
like you were talking about. Both of these guys are
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deep ball specialists. Aaron Rodgers. Last year, I believe of
quarterbacks who through fourteen four hundred or passes or more
had the lowest air yards per target. I'm double checking
that real quick. But like, oh he was eighteenth of
the nineteenth sorry, So like he's not airing the ball
out hes all quick slants and stuff, So like it
doesn't fit that skill set. Of the receivers that you
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have and one that you just paid a whole bunch
of money. So I don't really get it.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
Yeah, don't. I don't understand. It's just it.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
I guess I feel differently if they were roster building differently,
but they have built a roster that seems more suited
to what Russell Wilson does.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
But they don't want Russ.
Speaker 4 (30:51):
So I don't really understand my dark horse and all
this is probably the Titans. They need a quarterback, and
we're not hearing much about them taking one off the
board at the number one spot, like we've heard that
they're they're open to move they're open for Carter the
defensive player, and they're open to move down. So it's
like we're not hearing like they're in the race for
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a quarterback right now, like of a Kirk Cousins or
Russell Wilson or even Aaron Rodgers. I think, you know, Russell,
that moonball to Calvin Ridley. That's all that Will Levis
and Colm Ridley were able to actually produce and connect on.
So if Russell wants to be like a starter and
not have as much pressure as the New York pressure
or even with DK Metcalf or George Pokin.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
Just chill out Tennessee Brown the moon Ball to Calm
Ridley and just hang out. Like I really feel like
it will be a chill metal spot.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
Do you want to If you want to be left
to your own devices and you just play football, Tennessee
is the spot for you.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (31:48):
I have been operating like they have kim Ward already.
I could be wrong, but I think they're not being
in the market at all for a quarterbacks because they
already know who their quarterback is going to be.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
Maybe as a now, looking at the depth chart on
our lads, Will Levis is the only quarterback on the roster.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
That cannot that cannot stand it, just can't you know,
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
I mean I've seen a lot of Abdua Carter mock
to the Titans at one. It could also be Look,
I mean, depending on what you want to do, knowing
that there are some quarterback needy teams behind you, you
trade down a couple of spots. Maybe you trade down
with the Giants and you still get your if you
really want Carter trade down with the Giants they take
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a quarterback at one. The Browns take a quarterback at two,
you still get Carter at three.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
And then Travis Hunter to the Patriots. I like that scenario.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
We got it all worked out. We have it all
worked out. Number sixty three on the list.
Speaker 3 (32:53):
JK.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
Dobbins coming off of a career year, a career year
when I think most of us were just hoping, hey,
maybe he can just stay healthy and bet a little
bit productive. Instead, he really was the focal point of
the Chargers running game. Chargers, of course bring in Najee
Harris that lakwans Andy suggests that they are not going
to be back in on JK. Dobbins again for this year.
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I mean, I guess anything's possible, but it seems really,
really unlikely. It seems hard for me to find an
easy landing spot for Dobbins right now, just because the
running back class in this draft is so deep, Like
it feels like at this point, Yeah, if he doesn't
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find a spot in the next day or two that
Dobbins might have to wait till after the draft.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
Before anybody really comes calling.
Speaker 4 (33:44):
Yeah, that's definitely a possibility. But I got him pegged
to the Bengals. I think that would be great fit
for him because they're looking for fish and runner, a
hard runner like them going to trade out for Klill
Herbert was very telling of what they honestly think about
Chase Brown. And it's not like a huge knock to
Chase Brown in his ability ways able to do because
he cleaned up that back of the season as like
an RB one. But it's more so the longevity of
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this backfield than how the direction of this league is going.
It's going one two punch and they want a guy
that's gonna be like, we could just run him for
let's say, you know, twenty touches and then Brown they
split that up. I really feel as though JK Dowm
still has something in the tank. Thirteen games, nine hundred yards. Man,
if he would have had a full season, we'll be
talking about JK would damn there eleven hundred and twelve
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hundred yards and a couple more touchdowns. But I feel
like that one two punch that could definitely work and
the Bengals, it depends on how the draft falls with
some of these deep running backs in this class. Might
have to wait and you know, and see what happens.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
Yeah, I mean, you know, from a fan standpoint, you're
sitting an Ohio state guy back to the State of Ohio,
which you know, whatever it's worth is something notable for sure.
Speaker 4 (34:51):
Sign him.
Speaker 3 (34:52):
I find a I don't see where JK goes and
he gains fantasy value, Like, yeah, I think last year
is going to be his career year.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
Yeah, that was kind of that was gonna be my
question to you, Like, it feels like what we saw
last year is sort of the ceiling for JK.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
Dobbins.
Speaker 3 (35:09):
Everything broke right for him, like he for the most part,
stayed healthy, even though he did miss some time. There
was literally no running back in that room that they
felt could compete with him, Like Gus Edwards was dust.
They didn't really trust him on Evendell, and then he
was on an offense where he knew the system very
well because he played with the OC before and they
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were very run heavy. I just I really this morning
was trying to think about like where he could end
up and I'd feel better about him, and I'm like,
there's literally not a spot I could think of.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
Yeah, I mean, I'm just again, I'm sort of looking
and just trying to game it out, and I'm with you, like,
I just don't see a spot where he goes, because
at this point, I think wherever he goes, at best
he's in a timeshare with somebody else, he's going to
hurt somebody's fantasy value.
Speaker 4 (35:56):
So yeah, yeah, that's kind of the reality.
Speaker 2 (35:59):
Yeah, I mean, I'm like so looking last year had
one hundred and ninety five carries understanding that you know,
he was brought in to sort of split with Gus Edwards.
Speaker 1 (36:07):
He missed four games with injury.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
You know, I think I think one hundred and fifty
hundred and eighty carries probably the ceiling for him at
this point, depending on where he goes, you know, and
he's gonna have to split time.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
With with whoever it is.
Speaker 3 (36:22):
Unfortunately, I know, we're seeing teams pay more and more
running backs, and good for them, but like, this is
the worst scenario for Dobbins because he's not one of
the elite running backs and it's a very deep running
back class. So like you could be like, do I
want to pay this this guy who's missed a lot
of time big money, or do I just draft a
running back in the fourth round?
Speaker 1 (36:42):
Right?
Speaker 2 (36:43):
I know, again, that's that's what I'm saying, Like, if
it doesn't happen the next day or two.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
Like, I just don't know that JK.
Speaker 2 (36:49):
Dobbins gets a call until after the draft, and seems
are sort of looking at their running back rooms and
trying to figure out where.
Speaker 1 (36:55):
To fill in the gaps.
Speaker 2 (36:57):
Elijah More number eighty on the list, I mean, Florida.
Speaker 1 (37:02):
I don't even know what to say about Elijah Moore anymore.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
You know, it didn't happen with the Jets, didn't really
happen with the Browns. You know. Again, He's another one
who I think at this point is probably gonna just
sit out on the open market for a while. And
I don't know that he's gonna be anything more.
Speaker 1 (37:21):
Like I don't know that he has fantasy relevance really
at this point, does he.
Speaker 3 (37:25):
I mean, he struggled to find that really last year
on a Brown team that was kind of until Jerry
Judy's breakout with Jameis Winston, like they were searching for
production at receiver. And I don't know, We've seen four
years of Elijah Moore, his nine career touchdowns, He's never
reached seven hundred yards. At some point, you just got
to say, this is who that guy is, Like an
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NFL contributor for sure, like he belongs on a fifty
three man roster but doesn't belong on a twelve team
fantasy football I do have one, Like Greg Rosenthal is
so much smarter than me, But I do not understand
in what world Elijah Moore.
Speaker 2 (38:03):
Is ranked higher than the next wide receiver. Yeah, I
don't get No, I'm I'm with you on that too.
I am absolutely with you on that one. And maybe
one day we can ask Greg about it too. He
can give us, you know, his his rationale for it
is age.
Speaker 3 (38:16):
The reason i'bout to say he's twenty four. I mean
that probably makes a little sense there, I guess yo.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
I will say I remember for at least a week
or two in twenty twenty three getting sucked into everyone.
Joe Flakout took over as a quarterback at Browns and
he's like talking up Elijah Moore and how they played
together with the chests and like he was hyping him up,
and like I did sort of buy into that for
like a couple of weeks, and then like after two
weeks as a parent that like, no, it's this is
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like I think I feel like after that happened, Moore's
snap percentage went.
Speaker 1 (38:49):
Down like in back to back weeks.
Speaker 2 (38:51):
It's like, okay, this is obviously not at this point,
all right, enough with the suspense, Elijah Moore is at
number eighty the guy a number eighty three. He is
Keenan Allen. Now Lakwan. Granted it was not the best
season for Allen last year. The Bears offense did not
turned out to be as explosive as we hoped it
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would be. Allen with seventy catches seven hundred and forty
four yards. He didn't have seven touchdowns, so that was
not a terrible number for him. You know, he's thirty
two years old. He's going to be thirty three coming
up at the end of April. And I think it's
Florio's point. You know, look, he's not what he was.
He can definitely still be a big contributor for a
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real NFL team. How much of a contributor can he
be for a fantasy team?
Speaker 4 (39:38):
Though it's a gamble, and it's more so the landing
spot if anybody has interest. I mean the Seahawks, they
have open doors for wide receiver weapons and name you know,
threatening for defenses. I think him and JSN could probably work.
I mean the Bears. I honestly think you give it
a shot with Ben Johnson. I think Ben Johnson would
love to have Kenan Allen, you know, work that slot,
that work worked the middle of the field and kind
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of like try to mirror with the Lion's offense ask
or bring him to La to the Rams. I really
feel as though you have to worry about that.
Speaker 3 (40:08):
How many receivers do you need? All we need to
get back baby. But no, if Keenan Allen, if he
if he has.
Speaker 4 (40:16):
Anything that you know has to offer for fantasy, it's
probably like a wide receiver three flex, you know, like
it's one of those things that you won't be taking
them off the board with high expectations as he's your
wide receiver one or like your wide receiver two that
can get tribute every single week. It's really going to
come down to who's the quarterback throwing him the ball
and what the system and play call is going to
look like for him. Because he can still get open,
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he could still be a reliable wide receiver catch the ball,
play outside as well. It's more so what does the
environment look for him to actually produce for fantasy.
Speaker 2 (40:48):
Keenan Allen feels like one of those guys where, like
you know, the Sharps, the early drafters are probably going
to avoid him for the most part, but he'll be
that guy that in the middle to late part of drafts,
when you get more of the you know, more of
gen pop drafting, they're looking to be. Oh, Keenan Allen,
(41:09):
you know, I know that guy. I remember that guy.
He's been good for me for a while. Like he'll
he'll get pulled his ADP will get pulled up when
we get to like August. Because a lot of people
you know who, yeah whatever, they have lives. Shout out
to them who are doing this oh year long. Uh,
you know, they don't necessarily are paying attention to him,
(41:29):
maybe being in decline or being uh a little bit
older in his career.
Speaker 1 (41:33):
They will draft him because of that. But a lot
of us.
Speaker 3 (41:36):
It's worth noting though, that his situation was a huge decline.
I mean, going from justin Herbert to you know what
behind the ears Kayla Williams without no line and a
terrible play calling system. So it's like true, it wasn't
exactly only him, you know, Yeah, no, for sure, I
want him in Carolina, because I think he could be
better than that, Like he needs a lot of volume.
(41:57):
But we've seen Adam Feeling each of the last couple
of years put up like six week stretches where he's
a wide receiver. One Keenan Allen could could still do that. Like,
so Bryce Young needs some help.
Speaker 2 (42:09):
In my head, like my first thought was, hey, you
can go to Carolina, And then it was like, are
we gonna do that again? Are we gonna send another
aging veteran to Bryce Young to like you know.
Speaker 3 (42:23):
It worked with Deonta until it didn't.
Speaker 1 (42:26):
It worked for for what like.
Speaker 2 (42:27):
Three weeks, Like it didn't last very long with Deontay Johnson. Right,
It's like it's like you have, like, you know, two
friends and like they're the only people you know who
like anime, and you're like, hey, we should match them
up and have them go out on a date, like right,
Like they may have nothing else in common, but they
both like anime. So like it's just like hey, man,
like here's a veteran receiver who's like a free agent,
Like we should send him to Carolina and let him
(42:49):
work with Bryce Young.
Speaker 1 (42:50):
I'm like, let's give Bryce something. And I like Keenan Allen.
Speaker 2 (42:53):
But let's let's let Bryce Young have a guy he
could grow with instead of some handholder.
Speaker 3 (42:58):
Look, I think you draft a receiver and you bring
Keenan in to be like the veterans slot guy that
the security blanket. Like, yeah, I do want to point
out those I'm not letting this go.
Speaker 5 (43:11):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (43:12):
Keenan Allen had more yards last year than any season
of Elijah Moore's career, and he had two fewer touchdowns
last season alone than Elijah Moore's had in his career.
Speaker 2 (43:22):
I'm guessing it's an age thing. That's all it has
to be. It's got to be an age thing.
Speaker 1 (43:26):
That's all.
Speaker 2 (43:27):
Number one on one on the top one hundred and
one free agents for Greg Rosenthal is Nick Chubb.
Speaker 1 (43:33):
I'm just gonna throw this out to both you.
Speaker 2 (43:34):
I mean, I know we all would like from a
football standpoint to see Nick Chubb be successful after having
a couple of really serious injuries. But are either one
of you drafting Nick Chubb regardless of where he goes
this year?
Speaker 4 (43:48):
Absolutely not.
Speaker 1 (43:49):
I was out last year, like damn, now it's over.
Speaker 3 (43:54):
I do think he should re signed with the brown
sill like he's one of those players that should get
to go out with the team that he's been so
loyal to his whole career. Like, I don't want to
see him throw on another jersey and struggle, and then
like ten years from now, we're like, remember what Nick
Chubb was a Patriot or something.
Speaker 2 (44:08):
Like that, we start doing those like weird jerseys things
like on social media, like posting up like yeah.
Speaker 3 (44:15):
Like Maddy Ramirez on the Rays and then Nick Chubb
on like.
Speaker 1 (44:19):
Keim Elijah Wan with the Raptors, Like what what is this?
Yeah on the Jaguars. Yeah, I mean look Tory Hole
on the Jaguarks.
Speaker 2 (44:29):
I mean, Jerry Rice in a Broncos uniform just will
never sit right with me.
Speaker 3 (44:34):
Wow, yeah, they'll do it.
Speaker 2 (44:38):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (44:38):
I mean, yeah, that part.
Speaker 2 (44:39):
But on the one hand, like, wouldn't it be cool
to see Nick Chubb go somewhere and like be with
a contender, even if he's just like a you know,
reserve backup piece, Like hey, let him Jeeves.
Speaker 3 (44:49):
I feel like.
Speaker 2 (44:49):
That's the easy.
Speaker 1 (44:52):
Let him Henry, Yeah, Baltimore, Chubb deserves happiness too. Then
I could make.
Speaker 3 (45:00):
More jokes about how much help Lamar Jackson needs. You
mean the Chargers, right, the LA Chargers, I said la,
I didn't I didn't say which one.
Speaker 1 (45:07):
Need the LA Chargers? You know here horring players like Pokemon, man,
like what are you doing?
Speaker 3 (45:14):
Not even good players? Like he just wants names.
Speaker 1 (45:17):
Gotta sign them all, Like you know what he's doing, man.
Speaker 3 (45:19):
Any player that's closer to retirement. Lakwan's like come home
going in. Yeah, I had to take though for Elijah
Moore to be a RAM And I'm like, look, we
need a slot guy, man, I'm willing to take whoever
on this list.
Speaker 1 (45:33):
Man, now, let Devance play the slot.
Speaker 2 (45:36):
You're all excited about to to Well, you wanted Greg Dorts, Like,
have Greg Dors be your slot guy?
Speaker 3 (45:41):
He is held captive in Arizona right now.
Speaker 1 (45:44):
I don't know how do.
Speaker 3 (45:45):
You feel about Elijah Moore making this list? But Greg
Dorts not very But I'm pretty sure like half the
people in the building don't even know who Greg Dortch is,
so it's all right.
Speaker 1 (45:57):
But Greg Rosenthal knows who Greg Dortch is.
Speaker 3 (46:00):
Yes, but he's not worthy of the one on one.
He's at one O two, He's on the next version.
Speaker 2 (46:05):
I'm gonna I'm gonna got he's probably not at one
o two either, but if that helps you sleep at night,
then that's what we'll go for.
Speaker 3 (46:10):
You Shaid sweet him and be like, yo, where what
does Greg georch have to do to make your top
one on one?
Speaker 1 (46:15):
I'll do it. Good luck to you, sir.
Speaker 2 (46:20):
We're not done yet. We're gonna talk about some winners
and losers coming up after the break. Stick around for
more of the NFL Fantasy Football Show. So obviously there
are still guys to be signed. We just went through
a whole big list of them. One guy that I
failed to mention earlier in the show, Kyle Shanahan finally
gets Mac Jones Jones signing with the San Francisco forty
(46:42):
nine ers. Apparently, the Niners and Kyle Shanahan they're just
sort of like a rehab for for broken quarterbacks. You know,
like your reputation is sort of battered, your performance has
not been great. Come on down to Kyle's house, quarterbacks,
We get y'all fixed up. We'll get you all sision
back out in the wild. You know.
Speaker 1 (47:03):
It's like the you know, the SPCA for quarterbacks or something.
Speaker 2 (47:07):
We're just gonna like get you all patched up and
we're to send you back out there again.
Speaker 3 (47:10):
So you know, the Niners and Vikings, that's that's what
they've become. And Sean McVay could be that, but instead
he's just like, I'm cool with Jimmy G for the
rest of time.
Speaker 2 (47:22):
I think. I think Sean McVay has sort of painted
himself into a corner because he got Jimmy and he's like, oh.
Speaker 4 (47:29):
He must be good at having conversation with Sean, because
I just don't get it.
Speaker 2 (47:33):
Hey, for how much money do you need? Manams posted
like a video being like he's back and it was
Jimmy G and I legit started laughing at it.
Speaker 1 (47:45):
No, I'm better or worse than the Bills. Nathan Peterman
QB one video work.
Speaker 2 (47:50):
I mean better that.
Speaker 3 (47:51):
That's the worst quarterback video. I mean they in the
middle of a playoff race started him and he threw
six interceptions. What are we doing?
Speaker 1 (47:58):
Let's talk some wayers and losers.
Speaker 2 (47:59):
Though, so far in free agency, la quantitybody that jumps
out to you is a big winner and or a
big loser. So far for the first couple of days.
Speaker 3 (48:07):
Winner for me is Baker Mayfield.
Speaker 4 (48:08):
You get Chris Godwin, back the familiarity and it puts
him back in that top ten fantasy conversation. And I
definitely think, you know, Baker Mayfield is probably as happy
as I am, you know, with my Chris Godwin shares
and my Baker shares as well. Like I'm looking at
it like, oh well we're back, you know, even with
or without Liam Cohen. I think Baker balldal and stepped
up to the play and having all his weapons ascendled assembled,
(48:30):
it is going to be very important.
Speaker 2 (48:32):
Yeah. I actually I think you're right though, because everything
they keep the band back together, right the Bucks. The
Bucks are going to ride with Mike Evans and Chris
Godwin pretty much until the wheels fall.
Speaker 1 (48:41):
Off, which in terrible, man.
Speaker 2 (48:44):
I mean, we've seen what they've been able to do
the last few years, so why not sort of keep
that thing together.
Speaker 1 (48:49):
Any big winners or losers for you, Florio, I.
Speaker 3 (48:52):
Know it feels kind of repetitive because these moves happened
like right away, but I think Justin Fields, DeVante ad
naj Harris to me or the three players who gained
the most fantasy value this week from free agency, and
I think the biggest loser is Sam Donald. Yes, Yeah,
you go from Justin Jefferson, Jordan Addison, TJ. Hockinson, and
(49:15):
Kevin O'Connell's play calling system to Clink Kubiak, who's a
solid OC. But then like Jameson is awesome, but then
your wide receiver two is mvs. Your tight end is
Noah Fan, your on line has questions like it. I
don't think Sam Donald is going to be able to
repeat the fantasy success he had last year.
Speaker 2 (49:33):
Yeah, Donald was gonna be my guy, was my immediate
answer for the guy who really takes the biggest hit.
I think is just going to Seattle just does not
work out for him. And I'll say this, I think
I think Jsen sort of fits into both winner and
loser categories because he definitely gets an upgrade in target
share with both Tyler Lockett and DK metcalf gone. But
(49:54):
you know, I think we can debate whether or not
Sam Donald is a better quarterback option than what he's
had the last year or two with Geno Smith. So
I think Gino's better, you know, I think in one
respect he definitely gains. In another respect, Yeah, just I
don't know. I don't know that it really improves his
standing a whole lot. So, yeah, that was that one
(50:15):
was sort of weird to me.
Speaker 4 (50:17):
It is definitely debatable, but like Florio was saying, like
I think Gino might be better in the situation, Like
I rather had stuck with Gino, didn't get Samon because
Sam is coming from the Vikings when we saw how
he finished, and he's also in the division with the
Rams twice a year every year, and the Carlins defense
gut a little bit stronger, and it's like it's not
going to be a fun time for him to be
(50:39):
in that division with the guys that he has around him.
Speaker 2 (50:41):
Yeah, I will also say I think Dk Metcalf loses
in this whole two going to Pittsburgh and well just
because one they haven't decided on a quarterback yet, but
it doesn't seem like it's going to be a guy
that plays to Metcalf's strengths, right, especially if they really
are courting number twelve, that it's just not gonna really
(51:03):
work out for him. But also let's keep in mind
he's going to Pittsburgh with Arthur Smith, who wants to
run the football. You know, they've got Jalen Warren there.
They bring in Kenneth Gain Well, we'll see how big
his opportunity is. But it's just not going to be
the same kind of offense that he's been in the
last couple of years in Seattle. I think, you know,
(51:25):
I think for a lot of us who've sort of
been on the fence about DK Metcalf, I think this
is an easy reason to knock him down your rankings
and your draft board a little bit because it's just
not gonna be the same.
Speaker 3 (51:37):
And him and George Pickens are that they're like the
same player kind of.
Speaker 2 (51:42):
Yeah, I don't think DK metcalf is a severate employee,
but I do think that they stylistically do have a
lot in common. So but you know, look, still things
to be seen, still moves to be made. I'm going
through my timeline again, and I think we can say
we are marked from Aaron Rodgers signing in the middle
(52:02):
of our show.
Speaker 1 (52:03):
So we should probably end it right here.
Speaker 2 (52:05):
We should end it right here before it happens and
you know, and be done with it. So back with
you on Tuesday again. We should probably do a mock
draft sometimes soon do another mock draft. See how things do,
see how things have changed now that free agency is
in full swing. I'm sure there have been some movements
when it comes to ADP. So maybe next week we'll
(52:27):
do another mock draft that we can kind of talk
about a little bit. Compare contrast from the first one
we did about a month ago. They meantime, that'll do
it for this edition of the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast.
They happy, safe and healthy, do good and live well,
enjoy what's left the free agency. Don't let forty one
year old quarterback hold you hostage this weekend, and I
we'll talk to you again real soon.
Speaker 1 (52:46):
Wow, don't
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