2025 NFL Draft: Favorite Day 2 and Day 3 Landing Spots, Biggest Risers and Fallers!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Wow, Wow, everybody, It's Tuesday, April twenty nine, twenty twenty five.
Welcome to the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. We're glad draft
season is over. It's me and your man, MG Marcus
graduated by Michael f Floyda and LaQuan Jones's hel Q

(00:23):
throws his hands in the air in victory.

Speaker 2 (00:25):
Back outside fellas.

Speaker 1 (00:26):
We made it. We made it, we made it. We
got through the draft. Look, I get it. It's fun,
there's like excitement, there's things to talk about, but the
whole process is it's exhausting. So I'm glad that we
are through it for another year. Have either of you
clicked on a way too early mock draft for twenty
twenty six yet?

Speaker 2 (00:45):
No.

Speaker 3 (00:46):
I did one on Sunday with the serious XM guys
over there, but kudos to them. The draft fourteen rounds
was over in like forty minutes, like everyone was just
in and out.

Speaker 1 (00:57):
That's great, that's great. Yeah. No, I'm seeing people like
promote their mock drafts for like twenty twenty six for
next year, and I'm like I can't.

Speaker 2 (01:04):
Oh wait, actual no, no, yeah, I don't even matter.

Speaker 1 (01:08):
Fantasy won oh real, no, no, no, no, no, I've seen. No,
I've seen I have seen mock drafts for twenty twenty six,
like big boards for twenty twenty six, all this kind
of stuff already. I mean, I guess I get it,
but I'm not gonna I respect to work. I'll put
in I'm not clicking on that.

Speaker 2 (01:24):
Does the door not work in their house? Like just
twist it go outside.

Speaker 3 (01:29):
There was a USC quarterback a couple of years ago
that was projected to go like top five or ten,
and then he went like fourth round.

Speaker 1 (01:36):
The year later. I was probably Keenden Slovas. Maybe I
was probably Keenden Slovas. He was there for a year.
He actually had that was forced to start because like
the guys ahead of him got hurt. The big talking
point about Keden Slovas was that his quarterback coach in
high school, the guy he worked with was Kurt Warner.
He ended up transferring after a year or so at USC,

(01:58):
and I looked him up. I just by chance, I
just happened to see his knicks. I had forgotten that
he had gotten drafted at all. And he is. That's
why he's with the Texans. He's with the Houston Texas. Okay,
all right, but he's like their second or third QB.
He actually the third QB in Houston, so yeah, you
know you'll.

Speaker 2 (02:18):
Never see him play. I mean, shroud.

Speaker 3 (02:21):
Matt Barkley was the one I was thinking of.

Speaker 1 (02:23):
Oh, Matt Barkley. Matt Barkley was a big thing at
USC but he I.

Speaker 3 (02:28):
Remember seeing him be like he's gonna go top five
and then that never happened.

Speaker 1 (02:32):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, he probably stayed one year too long.
Some guys, you know, it's good to come back. Matt
Barkley probably should have struck while the iron was hot
and like left that one year and then gotten drafted
really high. He came back. It all kind of fell apart,
but you know, he ended up being kind of a
nice journeyman quarterback. Like Matt Barkley was one of those
guys where you're like, dude, you're still in the league.
Like you would see his name on a practice report

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and you're like, wow, you're still good for you man. Anyway,
we are obviously going to re capped the draft, which,
by the way, thanks to those of you who jumped
in our live stream and hung out with us on
Thursday night after Round one. You want to go back
and watch it. It's still on the YouTube, so you
can go check that out at the NFL Fantasy YouTube channel.

(03:15):
But for those of you who caught it live, were
grateful you popped.

Speaker 2 (03:18):
Man, it was morning when they tapped in what.

Speaker 1 (03:20):
It was in Australia. Thought it was like Ireland or
something in Australia on our Ireland Australia.

Speaker 3 (03:25):
Man.

Speaker 2 (03:25):
We got fans international, man, I love them.

Speaker 1 (03:27):
We are world famous. So shout out to those of
you who were either stayed up late or woke up early,
whatever it was to come hang out.

Speaker 2 (03:35):
Morning, good afternoon, and good night.

Speaker 1 (03:37):
We are certainly grateful for you for it. We're gonna
go through our favorite least favorite picks for Day two
and day three, talk about some of the players that
were helped or were hurt by what happened in the draft.
I was not about doing a new segment, but I'm
like all the news headlines are basically draft related, so
we might as well just dive on into it here.
So let's start with Day two. I'm simple question with you, Florio,

(04:00):
your favorite Day two landing spot for a player.

Speaker 3 (04:05):
There's quite a few, but I'll stick with the Patriots.
I like both of their second and third round picks
and Traveon Henderson and Kyle Williams, partially because these were
two prospects that I was like, I really like these
guys before they were drafted, but they fell to spots
where they are going to get an opportunity there, Like

(04:25):
Kyle Williams. Yeah, we know Stefan Diggs is their one,
but after that it is completely up for grabs, I believe.
And then Henderson. I know people are gonna be like, well,
Vermandre Stevenson is there, and I don't think he's ever
going to fully go away. This looks like a committee
to me. But it's a new regime. And they went
out and they used their second round pick, early second

(04:46):
round pick on a running back, which to me indicates
a change in this backfield. I think we'll see it.
Can't battle in all that, but I expect Henderson to
lead this backfield and touches and he is so fast
and so he gonna have so many big plays that
if you give him something like fifteen to seventeen touches
a game, I think he could be a rock solid

(05:08):
RB two that finished as many weeks as an RB one.

Speaker 1 (05:11):
And I know for you, Mike. I'm guessing part of
this excitement is because I know how much you love
Drake May, right, and the Patriots are making an effort
to give Drake May weapons. Now you know whether or
not these guys pan out, well, we'll find out, but
at least the effort has been there. The effort has

(05:31):
been shown that they are trying to make things happen
for Drake May. But you gotta ask because you know,
you guys sparked an interesting conversation in our text chain
about Kyle Williams because Lakwan you were saying you were
trying to figure out where to rank him. You guys
kind of had an interesting backup forth. I was out busy,
you know, doing dad stuff, so I couldn't really jump
in the conversation. But I mean, your thoughts on on

(05:53):
Kyle Williams going to New England, talented guy. You know,
the Patriots have not been great at drafting wide receivers
in the last couple of decades.

Speaker 2 (06:01):
I mean, your feelings on Kyle Williams, Like I'm a
little hesitant, Like listen to Flourial talk about Kyle Williams.
I'm like, ah, man, I gotta I gotta go back
and watch his tape. I gotta go back to see
what that spark is. And I see it like he's
one of those guys that he could burn right by
you on the perimera, Like he's one of those guys
that right through the middle he catches and put his
foot in the ground and cut. He can get lost
a field. But it's like I have little PTSD because

(06:24):
I was in on Javan Baker, Jalen Polk. These are
all new England wide receivers, and that depth chart is
a little deep there with just guys, and like, I
think Kyle Williams has the opportunity, if given the step up,
show up and like kind of put these guys in
the past. But it's just like I'm a little hesitant
of where to rank him and how bullish to be
in somebody's drafts. So it's like, I don't know, man,

(06:46):
I'm just kind of on the wait and see. But
I am a fan of him all around though.

Speaker 1 (06:50):
Yeah, I mean I think it's gonna be. I think
there's ample opportunity for him to carve out a role
just because, as you mentioned, Polk and Baker were non factors.

Speaker 3 (07:00):
Older gen guys, you know, the older.

Speaker 1 (07:02):
Gene guys too. I mean that's the other part of it,
older Gen guys, you know, like that is true. Mike Vrabel,
Josh McDaniels have no real allegiance to Javon Baker Jalen Polk,
so they're really gonna have to earn their opportunity here.
So there's certainly a chance for Kyle Williams to jump
in there and get something done. By the way, any
surprise that the Queen Shawn Jenkins went ahead of Trevon Henderson.

Speaker 2 (07:26):
I think it's more so of a fit though, Like
it's like more so like what fits what the Browns
are looking for, and like they were on the clock
and they obviously said, hey, we need a Quinn Shawn Jenkins.

Speaker 1 (07:37):
Yeah, I mean I think that's fair. I was just
you know, just curious stowing it out there. Your favorite
Day two pick, Lakwan Oh.

Speaker 2 (07:44):
Man, I'm gonna sound like an op right now because
I'm looking at and Elijahl Royo, like I absolutely love
this pick, and like I feel like this was their
best pick out of the entire draft, and they took
another one of my boys that we'll talk about later on.
But honestly what he brings to the table. He's versatile,
he has soft hands, the guy could play vertical. Fifty
one percent of his time was in the slot last season.

(08:05):
So this is everything that you get from a modern
tight end right now that we known in love out
of the brock Bowers, the trade mcbrides, he honestly has
the opportunity in front of him because no offense. Let's
be honest, he's dust, like that ship has sailed, Like
there's no longer a Noah fan community. If there is,
they're deep six feet deep, like it's just not gonna happen.

Speaker 1 (08:24):
You know, there's somebody out there, there's somebody holding on
unfortunately it is unfortunately let it go.

Speaker 2 (08:31):
But more so looking at this spot for him in
like the offense, like there's still some type of confusion,
So like I'm not bullish on him to make a
tight end one out of him. So he's like a
tight end two for me to get later in those drafts.
So if I get a kid, or if I get
a McBride or a Hockinson or whatever the case may be,
he would definitely be a tight end two that I'll
be looking just to have as a stash in those

(08:51):
later rounds, just based on the opportunity and upside. And like,
the reason why I'm really so hesitant is the confusion
of the offense right now, because honestly, it's a new regime.
I mean, Clint's coming in here with a fresh start
as the offensive coordinator. We don't know where JSN is
going to be utilized as you're going to be in
the slide on the perimeter, bouncing inside it out. You
got Cooper Cup there as well. I guess we can

(09:11):
understand and know what NBS's role is. He's going to
beat a deep threat. Though it's like you look at
all those things and that it is on the paper
and on the table for this offense, there's just no
real solid like understanding of what this offense is actually
gonna look With Sam Darnold.

Speaker 1 (09:27):
It's funny because the way you feel about Elijah and
Royo and this isn't my favorite day to pick, but
it's sort of how I feel about Harold Fannin going
to Cleveland. And not that David n Joku's dust. He's
definitely not, but he's also getting up toward age thirty.
The Browns could sort of get out of his contract
after this season very easily, they can void the last

(09:50):
couple of years of the contract so they can move
on from him. And everything they did in this draft
suggests they're kind of turning the page from what was
to what they think can be in the future. So
like pretty much a lot of the things you said
about Arroyo kind of how I feel about Harold Fannin
going to Cleveland, and is not that far from Cleveland

(10:10):
there it is. Yeah, it's a short, short drive thirty minutes.
I can tell you. We know, we know that. Uh,
you know we have done that drive. So my my
favorite Day two pick. And you know, maybe this is Chalky,
I don't know, I don't care. It's Luther Burden like that,
going to Chicago, going to Chicago because you know, we

(10:31):
know they've moved on from Keenan Allen obviously. You know
DJ Moore, Romo Dunese the top two receivers there in
that offense, but there is room for a third guy.
There is room for a slot receiver with Caleb Williams.
Now you've got Ben Johnson coming over to take over
that offense there. You know, it's still a running back
room that is kind of meh, So I think they're

(10:53):
gonna have to rely on the quarterback. They're gonna have
to rely on the passing game there. So I'm not
going to overrate burden in terms of what he's gonna
give you this year in fantasy. I mean, I think
he's still at best gonna be a flex option in
a lot of leagues, but there is a possibility for
him to be productive this year in Chicago. I do
think he's gonna have a really decent year. You know,

(11:15):
just understand that it's going to be up and down.
There are going to be some weeks where he's just
gonna disappear because the other two guys are gonna take
a lot of the opportunity. But I just think he
landed in a really, really good spot.

Speaker 2 (11:25):
I will say I am a fan now because there
was only three locations that I was like, listen, I
understand the talent, but he needs to go to the
right spot. It was literally Kyle Shanahan, Ben Johnson, Sean McVay.
Those are the only three landing spots. He landed at
one of them. So now I could see the possibility
of fantasy relevance some weeks, just all he was gonna

(11:45):
eat regardless.

Speaker 3 (11:47):
No, but I'll say that it was one mock after
literally the day after the draft. But I got DeAndre
Swift in like the end of the sixth round. I
got Roma Doonsday in like the seventh or eighth round,
and Burden went after them. I want exposure to this
Bears offense. I'll flag plan whatever you want to call it,

(12:07):
and DJ Moore's going full price. All the rest of
them are being way undervalue.

Speaker 1 (12:12):
In my opinion, I feel like that's going to change.
I mean, that's the kind of thing where if you're
doing Best Ball drafts, then you probably want to jump
in now because I just I don't.

Speaker 2 (12:19):
I just think much this weekend.

Speaker 1 (12:21):
I think Swift will stay about where he is, Like,
I don't see much movement in the running back spots there.

Speaker 3 (12:26):
I think people are too low on Roma Doonsday. I
know people are low on Caleb after last year, but
like he is, in my opinion, the biggest winner of
the offseason is Caleb Williams.

Speaker 2 (12:36):
My stack in the last Best Ball draft I did
was Luther Burden, which was late. I got Swift and
I got Caleb, so that's like one of those discounted,
Like if you want exposure in that Bears offense that
I'm willing to take because I feel like Romandonsay eventually
is going to come up a little creep up to
the area that I'm not comfortable with. And like you said,
DJ Moore is definitely priced at the fourth and third

(12:57):
round of where he's going to be floating. But I
don't think I could pay a price for Dj Moore
but everybody else.

Speaker 1 (13:01):
I think if you look at at Caleb's season, right,
I mean, yeah, it was not some generational, transformational season.
I mean, you know, Jaden Daniels helped get his team
to the NFC Championship game, but you look statistically passing
numbers wise, they were about the same. Caleb did a
good job protecting the football just the six interceptions. The

(13:23):
touchdown numbers were low, right, twenty touchdowns not great. This
was an offense that did not score a lot of points.
Bringing in Ben Johnson supposed to change that. It's supposed
to Will can get over the hump in terms of scoring, right,
So I think that means you can sort of project
a little bit more for Caleb in terms of passing

(13:44):
touchdowns this year, which in turn means you can project
more for Odoons. Hopefully that means Luther Burden's getting involved, right,
DJ Moore, we know who he's gonna be. He's gonna
be the alpha at least in that offense. But I
think you can start to project a little bit more
production for this team just by what Ben Johnson brings
to the table.

Speaker 3 (14:03):
And to that point, it's not just how good Ben
Johnson is and like how fantasy friendly his system is.
It's comparing it to what they had last year, where
they had Shane Waldron who doesn't use motion, doesn't move
guys around the field a lot, operates like it's the
nineteen nineties his offense. So you're going from that to
arguably one of the best offensive lines in football. Like,

(14:26):
it is such a drastic change. And yeah, people could
have their biases from last year, like Romadonsday, people are
holding a down rookie year against him where he had
two target vacuums and an OC change and the quarterback
was a rookie going through Like I think Roma Dunsay
is gonna be probably one of my more drafted players
this year.

Speaker 2 (14:43):
I got ten touchdowns on Tuesday.

Speaker 1 (14:47):
I do think he's primed for a step forward this year.
I just you know, I think it's gonna happen, especially
no Keenan Allen there. Yeah, I think he's right now,
it's undervalued. I think people will start to look into
this and come around a little bit more.

Speaker 3 (15:00):
Before we move to least Favorite, I just want to
give a quick shout out R. J. Harvey deserves. He
was a huge Fantasy winner, and I know we didn't
like him on this show. But Caleb Johnson I believe
was a big Fantasy Day two winner.

Speaker 1 (15:14):
Okay, all right, all right, well then that that gets
us the least favor, which you mentioned. I'm gonna jump
in here first because R. J. Harvey was my least
favored landing spot. Really, it's not about the it's not
about the player, it's about the spot. Yeah. I don't
trust Sean Payton. I don't trust Sean Payton. I don't
trust his backfield usage. Right, I mean sure, but maybe RJ.

(15:36):
Harvey is the lead back there, Right, but he's gonna
be tempted to sprinkle in some Julia McLoughlin. Right, He's
gonna one day just kinda get a wild thought and
decide he's gonna run Audrick estime, all right, I just
until I have a level of confidence that we can
trust Sean Payton with his running back usage. This to
me is not about the player. It's about the landing spot.

(15:59):
That's all it is. For me. I just can't Harvey. Yeah,
that's it. I get it.

Speaker 3 (16:05):
I know, the chef, like the patanism or whatever we're
gonna call it, was awful last year. I think that's
because he did not have a running back on the
roster that he even remotely trusts. And McLaughlin Julia McLoughlin.

Speaker 1 (16:19):
I thought he trusted Odric estimate, and I thought he
trusted the.

Speaker 3 (16:22):
Loddrick estimate is like the slowest running back in the NFL.
I mean, McLaughlin is just a guy. Like the fact
that they used a round two pick on a running back.
To me, I came away feeling pretty good about about Harvey.

Speaker 2 (16:36):
Yeah, I feel really good about the landing spot. Only
now that I have a change of heart, because honestly,
we've seen a guy of his frame his build last
season finished as the RB one as a rookie, and
that was Bucky Irvin of the class. So I feel
like being that you had Boat Nicks in the building.
He kind of expressed his love for Bucky Irvin and said,
go get a guy like that and put the ball

(16:59):
in his hand. Like Harvey had back to back seasons
with fourteen hundred plus yards forty two touchdowns in two
seasons at UCF. That cannot be ignored with a Jalia
mcgloffin and the slowest player on the planet in Audier estimate,
like there's no way he has any psyche and calculating
his head to say, I'm not going to put the
ball in RJ. Harvey's hand.

Speaker 1 (17:19):
Nokay, I mean we said that now.

Speaker 2 (17:22):
I feel you with the trust issues, but if he
clips up to the bird this season, I'm done.

Speaker 1 (17:27):
Week six. Week six, we're talking about Sean Anagans because
he's like messing around stuff. We needed a new one,
right because Bellatrix doesn't really count anymre because he's not
in the league. Yeah, I mean we still got we
still have Shannon Hanigans going strong, though it is just
in a different arena. We're not talking about that though.
You know, we we got Shanahanigan still in San Francisco.

(17:48):
We needed a new one, so I'm going with Sean
Anagans in uh in Denver with Sean Payton for sure.
All right beyond that though, l Q your your least
favorite landing spot in day two.

Speaker 2 (17:58):
Oh man, this is a landing spot for me too.
And not that he's not going to produce. I'm just selfishly,
I wish he was a RAM. And that's Jack besh
Man going to the Las Vegas Raiders, Like it's such
a great situation for him because he's a starter right
now as a rookie on that roster among some of
the other guys like McMillan, Burden, etcetera, etcetera. But I
just wish he was a RAM because he can excel

(18:20):
at a longevity time because he just seems like a
McVeigh guy, Like he's so physical and I know McVeigh
probably saw his table. It's like, I can use this
guy on every single level possible close to the line
of scrimmage, just how physical he is. He could break
the tackle intermediate. He's very savvy and sneaky with his
route running to just be there open for you, and
he could play it deep. Like he's really one of

(18:40):
those guys that you were just hoping he gets on
your team. But he's on the Raiders, so I guess
you know, we'll see what Gino Smith does with him
in you know, Pete Carroll.

Speaker 1 (18:49):
So it's your least favorite spot just because you're being selfish, Yes, absolutely,
absolutely got it, all right, that's okay. I I liked
I liked the pick. I thought it was a good
spot just because of all the things you said.

Speaker 2 (19:01):
But he's not going to hit a ceiling. Man, He's
not going to hit a ceiling that he could have
had with McVeigh.

Speaker 1 (19:05):
That's all. You can't have all of the wide receivers.

Speaker 3 (19:09):
Do you think he's gonna be Fantasy relevant year one?
He could be.

Speaker 2 (19:12):
I mean, what are you worried about? Trey Tucker? And
then Jacobey Myers on the perimeter is not as good
as he is in the slot, and I think Besh
will be in the slot.

Speaker 3 (19:19):
I think Besch plays, but I think Myers and Bowers
are going to see a lot of volume on a
team that's probably gonna run the ball very, very heavily.

Speaker 2 (19:28):
Oh heck yeah.

Speaker 1 (19:29):
I think he's relevant in deeper leagues, but even then.

Speaker 2 (19:33):
Better than guy to me, absolutely, he's a guy that
you just stashed like you have that watch list feature
on a lot of these, like you know, fantasy outlets
and just watch them, just just have them on the
tabs and like when he starts to generate some buy him. Okay,
I'll add him on the way whire a week ahead
before everybody gets above the curve.

Speaker 1 (19:52):
You know, all right. Side notes to this. By the way,
Hunter Renfro signed with the Carolina Panthers over the weekend.

Speaker 3 (19:58):
So hey, dude, took one year to be like a
realtor or something like that.

Speaker 2 (20:02):
Right, It's pretty sweet.

Speaker 1 (20:03):
The guys a little bit closer to home. So there
it is, all right. Your least favorite landing spot Florida.

Speaker 3 (20:12):
Uh, it's two guys, same team, one that I liked,
one that LQ loved, Jayden Higgins and Jalen Noel. It's
I think this is a good real life landing spot
for them. I think you could argue for dynasty long term.
There's potential there. They're tied to a good quarterback stuff
like that. But just for redraft purposes, I think it's

(20:34):
gonna be hard for barring injury. Like I think Noel
slides in if Christian Kirk miss's time. I think Higgins
slides in and plays the Nico Collins role if he
missed his time. But while those two are still healthy,
it's gonna be though. I believe they are the top
two targets there. So then it's gonna have Higgins and
Noel competing for that third wide receiver spot and three

(20:55):
wide receiver sets stuff like that. And then there's also
Dalton Schultz, who I don't think is great, but he's
gonna get some volume there. So for redraft purposes, I
think it's gonna be tough for these guys to see
weekly consistent volume until one of Kirk or Nico eventually
missed his time.

Speaker 1 (21:12):
Yeah, I just thought it was weird they drafted two
guys from this same team, same offense.

Speaker 2 (21:18):
That was insane. Ida.

Speaker 1 (21:20):
It was just kind of kind of crazy, Like I
just did, like because I you know, I was in
the car for a good part of the third round
and you know, Lakwan, you texted like they just took
was it they just they just took Noel? I was
like in my head, I'm like, did they take did
they take Higgins? I was like really like I was
like driving so I couldn't like sit and scroll. I'm like, like,

(21:42):
they take they took Higgins too, right, so we just
you know, it's sort of it made my brain itch
for a little bit. I had to gotta figure that way.

Speaker 2 (21:49):
We fill a hole in need, I guess, you know.
I mean they comped, you know, Higgins to Nico Collins,
and Nico hasn't had the best health track record, so
if he ends up missing time, nice little plug and
play there.

Speaker 1 (22:00):
I guess. I also think it's a little bit of
a statement of their fear about Tank Dell too.

Speaker 2 (22:07):
Yeah. You know, well, Jalen he can win downfield as well.
Like if you want to utilize him like a Tank Dell,
you could slingshot his tail right across that perimeter. He
could be a guy that can go get that ball.
And like even with the old line issues, like I
know they address somewhat of the old line grabbing a tackle,
but like you need somebody that's going to be quick
in those breaks, and Jalen he is very quick in

(22:27):
those breaks where he could just quick release and get
it right to him and get up field.

Speaker 1 (22:31):
Yeah, yeah, you.

Speaker 3 (22:32):
Can learn from Kirk, right, Like, I think that is
a good long term.

Speaker 2 (22:36):
Kirk is my boy. He's my boy, but I have
to admit there is some type of worry about him
taking a step back after being you know, injured and
banged up and kind of getting up there in age
as well, Like he's not even the same wide receiver
he was and Jackson, him and.

Speaker 3 (22:50):
Nico were never the face of health either.

Speaker 1 (22:52):
So no. Yeah, A couple more questions about day two
before we move on to to day three. Is Tyler
Shuck your starter in New Orleans?

Speaker 3 (23:02):
I think so, Yeah, but I think it'll be a
camp battle him and Spencer Rattler. They seem to still
like Spencer Rattler.

Speaker 1 (23:10):
Mmmm.

Speaker 3 (23:12):
I just don't think you hand the job to a
third round rookie without him making Aye.

Speaker 1 (23:18):
What twenty six, twenty seven year old third round.

Speaker 3 (23:22):
Who backed up Justin Herbert for two years, who's now
on his second contract in the.

Speaker 2 (23:26):
NFL nineties baby though he like he's born in ninety nine.

Speaker 3 (23:30):
This blew my mind. I didn't fact check it, but
apparently he is the final player that will ever be
drafted into the NFL who was born in the nineteen hundreds.

Speaker 1 (23:40):
Wow, all right, that's a little piece of trivia. That's
a littleiece of so I saw on Twitter.

Speaker 3 (23:44):
I didn't fact check it, but I got really sad
and then made me not want to fact check it.

Speaker 1 (23:51):
Yeah yeah, yeah, and it definitely makes sense. Right. It's
twenty twenty five, right, so you're not going to find
too many of these guys at this point.

Speaker 2 (24:00):
I felt old when Keenan allen birthday was just like
not too long ago, and dude, I'm older than him, Like, yeah,
I'm older than waiting, Yeah, come over on my side, man, he.

Speaker 3 (24:09):
Just turned thirty three. Oh wow, Yeah, dude, Lebron is
like the last one that there's very kd there's very
few that I'm like athletes like ap point too, that
are older than me.

Speaker 1 (24:20):
Yeah, I think I'm I'm I'm I'm done. I've aged
out now. Like that's sort of why I was hoping
that Tom Brady. I mean, I'm older than Tom Brady,
but only by three months, so I was kind of
hoping that, like, you know, you gotta hung on for
a little wait longer. I mean, It's why I was
big on Bartolo Cologne staying in Major League Baseball for
a while, just I needed the old dudes to hang around.

Speaker 3 (24:37):
I'll give you six innings today, no doubt.

Speaker 1 (24:40):
And hilarious at bat to boot. Yeah. So so there
is other question, will Jaln Milroe. I'm gonna asking this
if you Lakwan, because I know how you feel about
Jaylen Milroe. Yeah, and I'm gonna ask it in a
very specific way. Will Jaln Milroe earn a start this season?
I was gonna say, will Jaylen Milroe start a game
this season? But just because of the way quarterback is

(25:02):
guys get hurt, what have you, that seemed very likely.
But will he play well enough in practice or get
off enough art where the Seahawks look and say, okay,
we are giving you a starting gig over Sam Donald?
Will that happen this year? No?

Speaker 2 (25:17):
Because Sam, you know, regardless of how he finished the
season and the Rams gave him complete PTSD, which we're
gonna give it twice a year every year. You just
best believe that. But he played really good football for
most of the season, and if he had lesser weapons
around him, then I would say Milroe might get a
shot at earning a spot and actually starting playing better
than Darnald. But nah, I don't. I don't see it

(25:38):
really happen in this season. It's one of those things
that they brung him in to develop him. He could
be the future. He'll be the backup playing just in
case Sam Donald falls on his face. But I think
Sam's coming in, you know, as a guy that could
probably operate this offense at a.

Speaker 3 (25:52):
Decent high level.

Speaker 2 (25:53):
I would say like in that between of where like
most weeks he'll look like the quarterback of the most
you know, first couple of weeks when he was a Viking,
but then he might fall apart in December like how
he did.

Speaker 1 (26:03):
All right, Yeah, I just you know, I know everybody's
like sort of excited about the potential of Jalen Milroe.
I just was struggling to see a place where he
would be fantasy great.

Speaker 2 (26:10):
To see him in a preseason it would be the
oohs and ahs, you know, in preseason.

Speaker 1 (26:15):
I can I can see it now. He's a good
preseason game. Everybody's like, is there is there a quarterback
controversy in Seattle?

Speaker 3 (26:20):
And be like, no, I don't think this year, but
next season they have an out after that. So if
Darnold is struggling, then I think that's when we see
the carpet polled.

Speaker 1 (26:29):
Yeah, okay, I could see that. I can see that happening.
Bonus question before we had to break Florio, When will
la Quan break down and draft Terrence Ferguson.

Speaker 3 (26:36):
I'm guessing he already has on like three basketball teams.

Speaker 2 (26:39):
Absolutely not, man, The rule is never draft a Rams
tight end.

Speaker 1 (26:43):
Why why are we? I just wonder whether or not
you're fandom just over you know at some point your
your body just like you just do it anyway.

Speaker 2 (26:54):
There seems to me like a block list when you're drafting,
you know how you can start to put it in
a few of do I ever want to see this player?

Speaker 1 (27:02):
D and D do not draft sort of thing. Yeah,
it's all right, all right, all right, that was a
beefy talk on day two. We will take a break,
come back and talk day three, where we will finally, finally,
finally get to Shoduur Sanders. So I'll stick around for that.
Coming up next on the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast, recapping

(27:23):
the twenty twenty five NFL Draft onto Day three and uh,
same thing. Let's start with your favorite landing spot, Florio
for a Day three.

Speaker 3 (27:33):
Guy, there was two running backs I loved, but one
was my guy. I know, my guy and a lot
of other guys, but I loved Cam Skataboo as a prospect,
and all I wanted him to go to was a
team where he could get an opportunity, and that's where
he went the Giants. And kudos to the Giants, man,
I know it's easy to dunk on them and stuff.
I thought they had a great draft and I thought

(27:55):
they really set their team up for success this season.
But Skataboo comes in. He could compete with Tyrone Tracy, who,
let's not forget, is a wide receiver playing the running
back position, learning it on the fly and stuff. So
I think that there's an opportunity for him to slide
in and split touches, probably split drives or something like that.
Could be a sixty to forty split. But I think

(28:16):
Skataboo is going to be on the heavy side of that.
He is built to handle volume. I think he is
a better pure runner. He's more elusive, and I know
you could say Tracy's a great receiving weapon. Skataboo is
elite as a backfield receiver. It could be used downfield.

Speaker 2 (28:31):
All of that.

Speaker 3 (28:31):
So he got the opportunity. He went in the ninth
round in this draft I did the other day, and
that seems like value that I will be in on
all year. If he's going in like the eighth, ninth
round something like that.

Speaker 1 (28:41):
Yeah, I can definitely take a shot on him if
that's where he's going. I mean, you know that, guys,
we ray very cam Skataboo for the podcast. Not a
bad spot. I don't think it's a bad landing spot
for him at all. I know people loved the Giants
draft this year, and I think they they definitely addressed
some needs. Now it's just a matter of whether or not.

Speaker 2 (28:58):
Eight Riots Browns to probably one of one of the
many of my favorite drafts.

Speaker 1 (29:03):
It is a matter it's a question of whether or not,
you know, Brian Dabole can can coach those Browns.

Speaker 2 (29:09):
I like the Browns draft.

Speaker 1 (29:10):
Yeah, brown Yeah, we're gonna talk to rounds two. Not
a fan, We're gonna talk some Browns because they did
some very interesting things in this draft, for sure. Uh
LaQuan your favorite Day three landing spot.

Speaker 2 (29:22):
Man. I was really really surprised to see Damian Martinez
go in the seventh round, like the value that the
Seahawks guy. And again this is the second time I'm
coming up here talking about a Seahawks player and look,
they they kind of killed it in the draft with
a bunch of guys that I liked, you know, and like,
I feel like with these rookie drafts underway and coming up,
you better leave the draft with Dayman Martinez because the

(29:42):
clear path to RB one is there. I mean, Kenneth Walker,
can we get it? Can we get a healthy season?
Can we It's a contract year for him, and his
rushing efficiency has dropped every single season that we've seen
him out there. And look, Zach Charbonnay cool, He's great.
I mean, he's great in his opportunities as a starter,
but he only has two games to his career over
sixty rushing yards. You bring in a guy like Damian

(30:02):
Martinez who's just hard nodes head down, I'm going to
run through you. I can make you miss as well
and add to the passing game. Boy, I cannot leave
rookie drafts without him. Like it's honestly one of the
hard nose runners that you don't want to leave the
draft without, Like one hundred Gorillas versus Damian Martinez. I'm
taking Damian and Martinez every single time. I don't care
what it is. Dami and Martinez will be champion. I'm

(30:24):
telling you now, yeah, I didn't. I didn't bank any
time on this show for us to get into this.
You know, one hundred people.

Speaker 3 (30:31):
No, I had a question. You planned on it? Oh
did you we would win one gorilla or one hundred lq's.

Speaker 1 (30:39):
Oh please the gorilla, the gorilla's lq's.

Speaker 3 (30:42):
We're fully mine meeting. I knew he was gonna say
me and MG would be like, yeah, we're gonna lose.

Speaker 1 (30:47):
But I knew I had.

Speaker 3 (30:49):
To shave it that way.

Speaker 1 (30:50):
I mean, because of course he thinks he can beat
a kangaroo.

Speaker 3 (30:52):
The gorilla.

Speaker 1 (30:54):
The gorilla would mop up one hundred lq's while still
eating a banana, Like just like, what what are we doing?

Speaker 3 (31:00):
Donkey kong punching.

Speaker 2 (31:03):
Man?

Speaker 1 (31:05):
All right, let's see, all right, so you like you
like Damian Martinez. I'm gonna say, and maybe there's not
an immediate path to your success for this guy, but
elk iomanor h going to Tennessee just because I mean,
look at look at the wide receivers ahead of him
on the roster right now, right, I mean, they bring

(31:27):
in Tyler Lockett, who you know has had some good
years but is definitely on the tail end of his
career Calvin Ridley, and you know, I think they're sort
of trying to fashion him as the alpha there, and
he probably will be at least for this year. Van Jefferson,
who look, I I once upon a time was a
Van stand but you know, those days are kind of over.
So there is opportunity. There is a chance for him

(31:49):
to step up and start to earn targets in this offense.
They're trying to build something new. You know, they spend
the number one pick on cam Ward. You know, I'd
like to see them maybe upgrade the offensive line a
little bit, but I think it's it's passable at this point.
So I think there's a chance for ioman Or to
step in there. I think he's maybe more of a
keeper league dynasty league option in twenty twenty five than

(32:13):
say a redraft option, But I see the vision. I
see there's a path for him to kind of become
a productive option in an offense that just is desperately
in need of playmakers. Right. I mean, look, we spent
a whole long time last year trying to make Nick
Westbrook a kine a thing or right, because that's just

(32:35):
a legend, right, I mean, but because like that showed
you kind of where they were in terms of their
wide receivers there and left that he was bad or anything,
but like you, at the start of the year, nobody
was really like on on in WI kind of like that,
so I you know, I'm in kind of on ioman
or at this point, can I get one bonus please?

Speaker 3 (32:54):
Jaden Blue. I thought he was a huge winner going
to the Cowboys. His competition is Javonte Williams and Miles Sanders. Like, yeah,
he's explosive. I think he starts maybe the years the
RB two, but clear path for him to overtake us
the RB one.

Speaker 1 (33:10):
Yeah. Now he's another one that I did like where
he landed for sure. Yeah, that's his biggest issue, fumble
the ball, all right, Florida. Then who's your least favorite
landing spot? Day three?

Speaker 3 (33:23):
Well, shod door Sanders for one, But uh no, I
actually liked the landing spot for him, it just was
too late. The one that made me said was DJ Giddens.
I really liked Giddins as a prospect. I was hoping
he went somewhere like Dallas or or somewhere where I
knew he wouldn't be probably a day two pick, maybe
like late round three something like that. But I just

(33:44):
wanted him to go somewhere where he would get an opportunity,
and he went to the Colts. So congratulations, Hi Giddins,
get ready to learn handcuff, because that's all you are
right now is you're Jonathan Taylor's handcuff in fantasy and.

Speaker 1 (33:58):
Regular special teams. Buddy. Yeah, just HEARDing about that. I
mean we talked, I know, we talked about the Colts before,
and like, you know, how all of our hopes and
dreams are sort of wrapped up in whether or not
they can figure out the quarterback position, and it's just
not optimistic at this point, and so that's that's sort
of frustrating. I'm o Q your least favorite from day three?

Speaker 2 (34:19):
Oh man Oli Gordon Man, I mean going to Miami,
it's like he's part of a stable now of the
running backs that are just going to be the running
back stable, and like low morale over there right now.
I don't know if you know, but more so he's
behind Jalen right right now, and like this is not
somewhere he could revam. Like I feel like he's going
to get cold in his talent. And what I mean

(34:39):
by that is that twenty twenty three, he was like
projected to be the top running back prospect. Twenty twenty
four happens, he takes a step back with little off
field issue, et cetera, et cetera, little less production what
he had in twenty twenty four, and now he's going
to a running back stable where he may not even
see the field ever. So it's one of those situations
where like, dang man, I kind of want him to

(34:59):
tap back into that twenty twenty three production, but it
doesn't seem like he's going to be able to do
that right now, being the third, four fifth, maybeing running
back you know, on that stable.

Speaker 1 (35:08):
Yeah, that's just a tough spot to be in, and
you know, I don't I just also just wonder about
what's going to happen with that team, uh long term
in terms of you know, coaching, front office, Like is
this it for Mike Mike McDaniel, Like, like, how how
many more opportunities does he get? Right? This team is

(35:28):
sort of let Yeah, has under helped forever last years.
I'm sure you do. I'm sure things are great, great,
He's great.

Speaker 3 (35:36):
For fantasy and he can't beat the.

Speaker 1 (35:38):
Bills, you know, and he's a good quote, he's funny.
I mean, we like all that stuff about him. I
just do wonder how much longer he's going to get
an opportunity down there in Miami, considering the way that
team has underperformed over the last few years. I put
in love with Jalen Lane going to Washington. You know,

(35:58):
I think I think it's the thing that works for
the commanders. I think it's a thing that works for
Jade and Daniels. I don't think it's a thing that
works for Jalen Lane, you know, knowing Terry McLaurin is there,
knowing they just brought in Deebo Samuel. You know, we've
seen guys like Noah Brown step up. I still think
they want to figure out what they have in Luke
McCaffrey to some extent as well. It just seems like

(36:20):
it's a really crowded situation. So it's one of those
things that you know, again, if you're Jade Daniels, it's
great because you've got one more weapon potentially to work with.
If you're Cliff Kingsbury, it's another sort of moveable chess
piece that you can kind of plug in there and
see what you got. But I think in terms of
the player himself, it's just going to be a tough
spot for him to see if he can and perform

(36:43):
and be productive in Washington as a rookie for sure.
All Right, So I guess this is the question because
I actually really wanted to get to the questions. Like
in day two. You know, we sort of talked about
them mostly so it wasn't really as big, but one,
let's just let's get to it, right. You guys alluded
to the third around picking Cleveland. It was Dylan Gabriel,
which I think that was the moment that we all

(37:05):
were like, wow, shoulder really is falling right, Like it
was like, all right, yeah, Cam wore he was supposed
to go number one, not a surprise. Hey wow, Jackson
darts the second quarterback off the board. That's kind of
curious when you started seeing Tyler shuck and then when
you saw the Browns take Dylan Gabriel, it was like, Okay.

Speaker 3 (37:23):
It was hilarious to me because when it was Shuck,
people were like, I don't understand it, but he's pretty good.
Mill Rowe people were like, all right, at least there's
long term upside. And then it was Gabriel and everyone
was like, something fishy's going on here?

Speaker 1 (37:34):
I got people, We were like, I got nothing. I
got nothing like Ryan like, you can't, you can't make
up a reson for it. Right. We are not here
to litigate the reasons why shaduur fell. There are plenty
of other shows and personalities that will dissect that until
the cows come home. Our job here is to explain
to you where he landed and give you our thoughts

(37:55):
on whether or not that makes him fantasy viable. So
I just want to put this in a bigger context though, right,
because they did spend the third round pick on Dylan Gabriel,
they did bring back Joe Flacco in the offseason, they
did go out and acquire Kinney Pickett. They've got just
a bananas looking quarterback room, at least on paper, Floya,

(38:15):
How does this shake out? Who ends up being the
starter in Week one in Cleveland? That's, by the way,
I mentioned the fact that Deshaun Watson is still on
the roster. Right, He's probably not gonna play this year,
but he is still you know it from the Browns.
It's still coming every couple of weeks, right, like, how
does this work out?

Speaker 3 (38:34):
I think it's an absolute nightmare. I think it is
a fantasy mess and I want no part of any
of the Browns. And I felt that way before they
brought in Deontay Johnson yesterday. Who I know the internet
is like, this guy's bad, but like no, as a
football player, he is good. He is just everything else
you have to deal with. I think Joe Flacco starts

(38:56):
week one. I think he is the veteran presence. I
think it'll be a situation where he starts like the
first month of the season, something like that, and when
the Browns are not moving the ball consistently, then we
see a switch and I do believe Sanders takes over
then because I think he is like I'm gonna stand
on my takes here and not what the NFL told me.

(39:20):
And I know for all of draft season, I was
like draft capital and what the NFL vi these players
as matter more than what I view him as. But
Sanders didn't fall to the fifth round and behind Gabriel
because of football pure football reasons. There's everything else tied
to him. But I think if you put these two
in camp next to each other. I think Sanders is

(39:41):
going to be the better QB and going to win
this job. And it's funny. On Friday night, I tweeted
out there's not a world where Dylan Gabriel is currently
better or has more long term upside than Shador Sanders,
and so many people were like attacking me for it.
I'm so happy that we get to watch it play
out now side by side, because I think I truly

(40:04):
believe Sanders is the better QB here, and I think
he's the best QB in that Browns room.

Speaker 1 (40:09):
I do agree with that. I think he's the best
quarterback long term, at least in the Browns quarterback room
right now, right, I mean, you know, obviously, Joe Flacco's
had a long career. He was a Super Bowl MVP.
You know, he's got that on the resume, and so
that's what everybody else is trying to match up to.
But as of this moment on April twenty ninth, twenty

(40:30):
twenty five, I think Shodra Sanders is the best quarterback
in that quarterback room. But LaQuan, I mean I think
that comes with a caveat though, right, because for whatever
criticisms people had of him. The one thing or the
things that were consistent in the evaluation of him. You know,
holds onto the ball too long, takes sacks, does not
have you know, elite level arm strength, does not have

(40:53):
elite level athleticism. You know, these are things that are
just pure evaluations of his talent. I would also throw in, yes,
they did at Deontay Johnson. That's not a very compelling
wide receiver room there, dude, I mean not at all.
It's just not. And so even if shred Door Sanders

(41:14):
ends up starting a number of games for the Browns
this year, which certainly is very possible, I'm is he
fantasy relevant in twenty twenty five?

Speaker 2 (41:23):
What team does he play for?

Speaker 1 (41:24):
The Cleveland Browns?

Speaker 2 (41:26):
Oh? So, the Cleveland Browns. You're expecting me to get
a Cleveland Browns quarterback and sit them into my QB
one slot and have him be fantasy Absolutely not. I mean, listen,
I am not trying to poop in Cleveland. But there
is no good track record of a quarterback coming in
there elevating that program, and the best one to do it,
honestly with his track record, would be Shrador. But I'm

(41:47):
not banking that on fantasy I'm here to get points
right now. I'm here to hold the championship up at
the end of the year because I made the right decisions.
Getting Shrador Sanders in Dynasty, You're you're in for a
roller coaster. You're in for a roller coaster that you
do not want to be part of. It's not one
of the fun roller coasters where you can put your
hands up and scream like yeah, like no, this is
a roller coaster of nightmares, because at the end of

(42:09):
the day, you have to look at what's around him.
There's not great pieces around Deontay Johnson's not moving the needle.
Jerry Judy can only play with apparently Jamison Winston, which
he's not there anymore. So I'm not really confident in
anything that's going on in Cleveland for me to invest
anything remotely close to my fantasy League's Bestball, Redraft, Dynasty,
super Flex, Premium and whatever league that we have not

(42:31):
even dived into yet, to even have Shador Sanders or
any Browns quarterback on my rosters.

Speaker 1 (42:37):
To quote ancient philosopher Billy Madison, a simple no, yeah.
I mean, I just I think for all of the
talk and look, whatever happens throughout training camp and the preseason,
and even early in the regular season, there's going to
be a lot of talk about Shaduur and his place

(42:58):
on the roster and whether he should or should I'd
be playing. I think the bottom line for fantasy is
that I just don't think he's really touchable in redraft leagues.
You know, maybe you take that shot on him in
a rookie draft in dynasty and you you wait and
see what develops there. But I just don't I don't
see an avenue where I want any part of it
in a twenty twenty five redraft league.

Speaker 3 (43:19):
I think if you look at their roster and how
they attack this draft, the Browns don't want to be
trusting their quarterbacks in twenty twenty five like they want to.
They want to be running the ball and relying on
Miles Garrett and that defense.

Speaker 1 (43:31):
I mean, it really is a case of they we're
just gonna stockpile quarterbacks, and lob of Averages says one
of them's got to work out.

Speaker 3 (43:38):
I mean, I think that's I think that's kind of
I think they're like, none of them are going to
work out, and we have two first round picks next year.

Speaker 2 (43:44):
That's when we'll get our guy or or there's that.

Speaker 1 (43:47):
So you're saying they're in the Arch Manning sweepstakes, they're yeah.

Speaker 2 (43:50):
And so are the Rams.

Speaker 3 (43:52):
Sanders versus Manning would be the QB battle of a lifetime.

Speaker 1 (43:56):
Oh man, that's no, we don't want that.

Speaker 3 (44:01):
The all coverage of every z practice.

Speaker 1 (44:04):
Not even just every Brown's practice though, But then it's
also going to be like then we got to hear
from the Sanders family and the Manning family, and we
got you know, we got It's like, because we don't
have enough Dion and Peyton and Eli on our televisions already,
we're gonna put there. We're gonna put their family members
against one another match. Oh my god, No, so I am.

(44:28):
I'm I don't know if I don't know if I've
come up with this first. I'm saying I have because
I haven't seen it anywhere. Because you know how we
had like you know, the suck for Luck and all
these things this year. It's got to be hashtag planning
for Manning, right, That's what it is. Ah.

Speaker 3 (44:42):
What was it when Eli was there saying that.

Speaker 1 (44:44):
There wasn't one because like Andrew, Luck was kind of
the first one, right, it was like we're gonna We're
gonna suck for luck and then like every year we
keep trying to make up a new one and they
are increasing.

Speaker 2 (44:56):
Yeah, like all.

Speaker 1 (44:58):
These things have been becau I'm increasingly terrible. But planning
for Manning is right there, like like we can do
this as a society, We can absolutely do this Manning. Yeah.
So obviously the Browns quarterback room is a huge story
that's gonna be talked about a lot. But I didn't
want to talk about the Browns running back room a
little bit, right, And you know, yes, they spin a

(45:19):
second round pick on quin Shawn Judkins. You know they've
moved on from Nick Chubb. Jerome Ford was yeh last
year they draft Dylan Samson in the fourth round. I mean, Lakwan,
is this just the Judkins backfield and everybody else is
playing to be his backup? Or is there a chance
they could run multiple guys in this group?

Speaker 2 (45:38):
No, this is an underrated running back duel. By the way,
Like Samson was up there and talks of being one
of the top running back prospects. So them having both
on the on the stable, there is something interesting about
this brand. Browns offense. So them running that one two punch,
you get Junkins, who's a violent runner, and then you
have Samson who can also be violent at times, but
he adds to the passing game as well, even though

(46:00):
he was limited in his time at Tennessee catching the ball.
So I love this combination number one two punch. Sampson's
probably like more so of like a stash or a
guy that you put on the watch list. But I
would not be surprised if he's involved early over Jerome Ford.

Speaker 3 (46:14):
Yeah, Jerome Ford's unnoticed.

Speaker 1 (46:16):
Yeah, I think I think that's the thing. I think
he's probably the odd man out there. Uh you know,
so I'm curious toe where Sampson goes. I mean, are
you where I know you did a draft recently Florida.
Do you remember where Judkins went in that?

Speaker 3 (46:31):
I have it right here. Yet he went first pick
of the fifth round.

Speaker 1 (46:36):
Okay, So I think that's a good that's that's that's reasonable.

Speaker 3 (46:41):
And then Sampson went late thirteenth round.

Speaker 1 (46:45):
All right, That that all seems reasonable.

Speaker 2 (46:47):
Yeah, I think so people are expecting a one two
punch because most of the league right now is doing
one two punches. So I think that will probably be
like one of the underrated ones that really.

Speaker 3 (46:56):
I do think Judkins though, is going to be the
heavy side of that split. He's just to handle, yeah,
like two hundred and fifty plus touches. Yeah, well, depending
on if the Browns can give him the ball that much,
because they're probably.

Speaker 2 (47:12):
The amount of place.

Speaker 1 (47:13):
I mean, I think the only running back out of
this class that you can reasonably project a true workhorse
load for is Ashton Genty. Like I think everybody else
is going to be in some sort of tandem or
rotational situation. I mean, you know Henderson with Ramandre Stevenson
in New England, Marion Hampton and Najie Harris with Chargers.

(47:36):
You know, we just talked about Samson and Judkins, Like
all these other guys are gonna have somebody to share with.
I think gent is the only one you can look
at and be like, yeah, he is the guy for sure.

Speaker 3 (47:49):
Have you guys, I know it's really early. The draft
was three days ago, have you?

Speaker 2 (47:52):
Like?

Speaker 3 (47:53):
I keep thinking about where I would want to take Genty,
and I'm settling at RB four, Like, I don't think
I could push him ahead of Sake on Gibbs or Bijon.
But after that, it's really hard to make a case
against him.

Speaker 1 (48:07):
I mean, because yes, I think you're right, because you're
drafting for the potential ceiling, right, and that's that's where
that's how people are going to view him, is you're
drafting it what the ceiling can be for him, and
so by that measure, Yeah, although you know, I don't know, maybe.

Speaker 3 (48:29):
He's thirty one, I think he would, right, That's the thing.

Speaker 1 (48:32):
Derek Henry's the pivot point, and it's like, okay, one,
he's Dereck Henry, Like yeah, two, he's thirty one years old,
and even as big and strong as he is, that's
a lot of wear and tear.

Speaker 2 (48:42):
I got him last night at the two of four
spot Ashton Gent, So I was really surprised that. Yeah.
I was just like, this is kind of weird and
maybe it's just one draft, but this is literally one
draft that I did yesterday. We're going to keep drafting.

Speaker 3 (48:56):
Was it a wide receiver heavy first round or was
there just a lot of running backs.

Speaker 2 (49:01):
It was a lot of wide receivers that went off.
Brock Bowers was like the only non you know that, Okay,
I got it right here.

Speaker 3 (49:08):
Actually, It's not like like Henry and a Chan and Taylor,
we're ahead of him, because that seems to be the
next group kind of.

Speaker 2 (49:15):
B Sean was at one o two and then you
got Saque at the one o three, Gibbs went at
one oh six, and then all wide receivers and then
brock Bowers at the one eleven.

Speaker 3 (49:24):
So yeah, r before makes Yeah, I think that's where
you're going to have to take them.

Speaker 2 (49:28):
Yeah, for sure, early second round is not bad.

Speaker 1 (49:31):
Not staying in the AFC North. Who I do, I
absolutely do. Who's going to be the Steelers starting quarterback
in Week one? Mason Rudolph, Will Howard or the the
other guy I'm not saying his name. You know who
I'm talking about.

Speaker 3 (49:51):
Voldemort.

Speaker 1 (49:53):
Yeah. I was like, I was like, I was like,
is he he who shall not be named? Is that that's?
Is he going to be the quarterback of Steelers? An
big one?

Speaker 3 (50:00):
It's gonna be him? Right? Like the Steelers didn't literally
did nothing at QB, which to me, I've been operating
for like a month now that Aaron Rodgers is there QB.
But you don't sign one and free agency, you don't.
You don't uh trade for one, you don't take one
at all in the draft when Sanders was there for
you in the third, fourth rounds, Like yeah, they're they're

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they're they're going that route.

Speaker 1 (50:23):
Yeah, this is horrible, this is so I here's the thing.
I am not a Steelers fan, so when I say this,
it will not have an emotional impact on me as
opposed to somebody who waives a terrible towel and whatever.
But at some point, if you're the Steelers, you just
kind of have to bottom out, right, Like, you just
gotta bottom out. Like I almost think it's more productive

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in the long run to start Mason Rudolph or to
see what you have with Will have Maybe start, you know,
midway through the season, see what you have with Will Howard,
and just bottom out as opposed to, you know, we're
gonna have a winning record, we're gonna get a low
seed in the playoffs and then probably get bounced in
the first round and then get like a mid to
late first round pick. That doesn't really help us build

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the ball club. You know, they're just they're just hanging
out in football purgatory. It's not good if.

Speaker 2 (51:16):
The quarterback play is going to be as poor the
running backs are gonna eat. So Caleb Johnson to the
freaking moon, because we've seen Arthur Smith pull this with that.

Speaker 1 (51:23):
Did it hurts your heart to say that?

Speaker 2 (51:25):
It kind of did. But he landed. He landed in
the spot that I said I would be okay with.
He was another one, him and Luther Burden. I was like,
landing spot will matter, and he landed at the one
spot that I cared about. So it's one of those
things that you got to look at those running backs horn.

Speaker 1 (51:39):
I don't remember who I saw post this, maybe it
was maybe our pal Andy Barons, but because it was
like you loved him when he was called Najie Harris.
That's kind of what it feels like with Caleb Faster,
or that's what it feels like.

Speaker 3 (51:55):
That's how I kind of feel about Marion Hampton as well.

Speaker 1 (51:58):
Hmmm. Interesting. I don't know. I like him, Mariy Hampton,
I think as well, But you know, like I think,
I think, I think the Naji Harris situation in LA
could be fairly short lived. And so then that just
opens the door.

Speaker 2 (52:11):
Drafting Hampton as a friend.

Speaker 1 (52:13):
Marion Hampton, don't leave the draft without him.

Speaker 3 (52:16):
Another around on my draft.

Speaker 1 (52:17):
The other day, what.

Speaker 3 (52:20):
People. Wow, I think the thing is he's going to
quickly steal that job. I don't think Nausey ever fully
goes away.

Speaker 1 (52:29):
No, I don't think he ever goes away. No, absolutely not.
That's why I'm like, that's that's a hell of an investment.
It's a hell of an investment.

Speaker 3 (52:35):
Glad. I'm not the only one who thought that was early.

Speaker 1 (52:37):
That's what's rich Ano. The bonus question for you, Florio,
how early does the quand draft Jordan James noted Seahawks fan, obviously,
I'm assuming he's also transitioning to being a forty nine
Ers fan at the same time, knowing how much he
loved Jordan Mason and was like banging the table for
Jordan Mason. Now that Jordan James is sort of in

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that spot, how early does Lakwan draft him?

Speaker 3 (53:02):
Uh? I don't think not high at all. I think
he's gonna be like, I don't like this guy. He's
not Jordan Mason. I don't want him on my team.
But I do think he's joining IDP leagues right now
to get Chris Paul Junior on his rosters. To my mind,
that he is not related to the point guard that
is kind of wild.

Speaker 2 (53:21):
Actually, no, I love first of all, I love both
those players. Okay, I love Chris Ball. He's coming in
as a smaller linebacker, but he is side to side
and does not miss tackles. Jordan James, my friend, I'm
getting maximum exposure as many as I am right now
because he has far more production than Jordan Mason did
in college. So there's that. And he is far better
than Isaac Grendo and many attributing trades of where Grendo

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camp pass block. Okay, and I just told you that
he has far more production than Jordan Mason did in college.
And you're looking at a guy that shared the backfield
with Bucky Irvin that had eleven touchdowns in twenty twenty three.
And I might be an Oregon Duck fan honestly because
we got Terrence Ferguson. I love Bucky Hervin, I love
Jordan James. Let's go Ducks.

Speaker 1 (54:03):
Quack Quack black crack, get you a gets you a
Puddles the Duck T shirt so you can rock that.

Speaker 2 (54:09):
I might have to, man, I might have to.

Speaker 1 (54:11):
I'm trying to fine. I'm trying to find the list
of Rams opponents for twenty twenty five, simply because you know,
the Bengals have an offensive lineman named Michael Jordan and
I'm just wondering, will Michael Jordans have to block Chris
Paul Junior.

Speaker 3 (54:28):
That would be awesome at.

Speaker 1 (54:30):
Some point this season.

Speaker 3 (54:32):
That's all MG question for you, as the forty nine
Ers guy on this show. Yes, James or Girndo. Who
do you think is the RB two there?

Speaker 1 (54:40):
I mean, I think it's it's Grindo, but the recent
history of forty nine Ers running back suggests that Jordan
James is going to play at some point.

Speaker 2 (54:49):
So I got James RB two by the end of camp.

Speaker 3 (54:52):
I'm I'm a Girndo guy. I'm hoping he wins it out.

Speaker 1 (54:54):
Yeah, I mean, I think I think Garrindo's gonna be
the guy. But I mean it's I mean, the way
the Niners backfield operates is it's just kind of a title,
you know.

Speaker 2 (55:03):
What I'm saying, Like a guy if he couldn't beat
out Jordan Mason when the opportunity was served up for
both of them equally, Like if I just told you
Jordan James is better than Jordan Mason, there's no way
Isaac Grendro's gonna overleap this guy. No, I'm finite.

Speaker 1 (55:16):
I think we saw I think what you saw out
of Grindo, especially when he got the chance last season,
suggested that he gets first DIBs over you know, the
guy they just brought in. I mean, look, I could
be wrong, but I'm saying that right now. I think,
isaa grinde'z your RB two in San Francisco?

Speaker 2 (55:33):
The value on Jordan James, ladies and gentlemen.

Speaker 1 (55:38):
So where so then where are you drafted? You're taking
him in what round?

Speaker 2 (55:40):
Fourteen fourteen, fifteen sixteen? He's on my roster, maximum exposure
Jordan James for the next couple of years, and even
in rookie drafts. Right now, he's going in the fourth round.
Like I'm not leaving any of these rookie drafts are
coming up in the next week without him. That's just
how hard I'm bounding the table.

Speaker 1 (55:57):
Okay, all right, I'm here for it. I'm ready to
see it. Take one more break, come back. We'll talk
some more risers and followers. I was gonna call it
winners and losers, but that seemed kind of harsh, So
will risers and followers coming up after the break here
on the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. All Right, so he's
kind of gone through our likes and dislikes for days

(56:20):
two and three of the draft. So now we can
sort of take the big picture view looking at this
as a whole, figuring out the guys that sort of
gained in terms of, you know, our opinion of them
and what they mean for fantasy the guys who fell
both on the rookie and veterans side. So let's start
with the rookies. Florio, who was your big rookie riser

(56:42):
from this draft base j'all twoton.

Speaker 3 (56:45):
I think he got to go to the Jags and look,
it's a new regime there, and so I know people
are gonna look at like Tank big B and Travis
etn and be like, oh, but they have good guys there,
do they? You watched your eyes. The Jaguars play football
and try to run the ball last year, and two
In is fast, real like, arguably the fastest running back

(57:06):
in this class. So I think there's an opportunity for
him to come in there and potentially steal the lead
roll away or at least have a large share of
the touches in that backfield and two in was a
prospect that I like he he was going to gain
or lose a lot based on landing spot, Like he
wasn't a surefire guy. And then as mock I did

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the other day, he went in the middle of the
eighth round, ahead of like Cam Skataboo and Luther Burden
and some other guys. So I think he was a
huge riser because of the opportunity he's gonna get.

Speaker 1 (57:40):
All right, you're your rookie riser. Uhok one.

Speaker 2 (57:43):
So the riser for me was Trey Harris and the
landing spot in LA was such a huge spot for
him because how quickly is he going to make us
forget that Mike Williams and Quinton Johnston is on the
team just based on what he brings to the table.
So I think that was a home run pick for them.
They needed an X Y receiver. He's your prototype guy.
I mean, honestly, you look at last year what he

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did with Jackson dark down deep intermediate, Like he's a
guy that he's definitely going to be heavily targeted in
the red zone. So he's one of those guys that
you got to look at the end of those rounds
when you want for upside at the wide receiver position
with a rookie, because we've been seeing rookie wide receivers
just produce and become Fantasy relevant in their first year.
So he's definitely one of them you gotta have on

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that list.

Speaker 1 (58:25):
I'm gonna go, and not that I think he's gonna
be great, but I think Tyler Schuck just ended up
really land I mean, he ended the perfect spot. I mean,
this is a guy that we weren't sure where he
was gonna go, but I think the the open thought
was he was gonna be a backup somewhere, right, I mean,
cam Ward was always slated to go to Tennessee. There

(58:46):
were questions about where Shader Sanders was going to land,
but it seemed like he was going to be in
a really good spot to compete and maybe even in
an open spot. Even the thought was when we heard
about the Derek Carr situation, that it was Jackson Dart
going to New Orleans, Right, it was supposed to be
a Jackson Dart opportunity, maybe competing with Derek Carr. Instead

(59:07):
it's Tyler Shuck who lands there and he's shucked up.
That could go both ways, right, like if he plays badly, like, no, man,
you're shucking up down there, Yeah, the whole thing. But
he did. He's walked into a legitimate opportunity to be

(59:28):
a starter in his first year. You know, we'll see
what this camp battle with Spencer Rattler turns out to be.
But it's definitely a better situation for him than I
think anybody would have anticipated before we went through this
whole draft process. Rookie Faller, for you, Florio a veteran,
No rookie, do you have a rookie? Do you have
somebody on the phone.

Speaker 3 (59:48):
Oh wait to Faller. Sorry, I was already thinking about
veterans already.

Speaker 2 (59:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (59:54):
I think for year one for redraft back a mecca
at BUKA. I think he his landing spot wasn't ideal
because like, if he went to a spot where he
was going to get opportunity, he was he could have
been like a wide receiver three for fantasy purposes. But
now I think he is purely just like a late

(01:00:16):
round dart throw. And I get it long term with
the Bucks that they're trying to get their replacement options
in the building before they're needed. Injuries. Mike Evans is
getting up there, Chris Godwin has a lengthy injury history,
stuff like that. But like week one, when those guys
are healthy, it's gonna be Evans, a Godwin, and two
wide receiver sets, and it's gonna be him and McMillan

(01:00:38):
competing to be that third wide receiver there. I don't
think any one of them besides those top two guys
are gonna get enough consistent volume where you could start them.
But if he went to a right the right landing spot,
I think he could have been a very a viable
fantasy starter.

Speaker 1 (01:00:52):
Yeah, that was why I know we were all confused
about on Thursday when it happened. Is kind of what
the plan was for Abuka for sure, que who is
your rookie faller for this thing?

Speaker 2 (01:01:03):
That has to be Matthew Golden. I think we were
all excited about the combine with him and like potential
landing spots and like we were all trying to fit
and pick where he was going to go. But then
he ended up in Green Bay and it's like, come on, man,
you guys have enough wide receivers you're trying to figure
out how to utilize and you guys obviously need a one,
And then you go with Matthew Golden, like, I like,
who will win a thousand Green Bay pack or wide

(01:01:25):
receivers or a hundred gorillas, Like this is where we're at.
There's just too many. There's just too many pack or
why receivers. Bro Like, I just don't see him being
fantasy relevant in year one. Like He'll have his moments,
but the most frustrating thing about fantasy is like I'm
not getting majority of my points in winning championships off
of moments, Like I need a consistent guy, and like,

(01:01:46):
I can't see myself taking him off the draft boarder
even in rookie drafts, being like really bullish on him.

Speaker 1 (01:01:51):
Yeah, Matthew Golden was mine too, just for all the
things you said.

Speaker 2 (01:01:55):
Well, Tyler Warren, I mean we can go that route
as well. Yeah, another faller. It's oh man, sorry.

Speaker 1 (01:02:02):
Because the quarterback situation, if they can figure that out,
I think it's fine.

Speaker 3 (01:02:05):
I'm gonna I think I'm gonna be the Tyler Warren
guy in fantasy because let's go back one year, we
were saying bad quarterback play, too many target comps, all
of that for brock Bowers yeah, it was Gardner Minshew.

Speaker 1 (01:02:23):
Right like Oconnell and yeah, yeah, maybe.

Speaker 3 (01:02:34):
That was Vegas arguably worse. I'd rather have Shane Stikeen.

Speaker 1 (01:02:39):
I mean, you are You're trying to get me back
in on him, because I was feel like he's gonna
get me out.

Speaker 2 (01:02:45):
He's gonna end up in the satchel of discontent. Man,
he's already picking out a room in there. Man, the
bag is growling like. I think he's already gonna make
some housing over there with Kyle Pitts.

Speaker 3 (01:02:55):
I think he's gonna be my most tight end.

Speaker 1 (01:02:57):
Two.

Speaker 2 (01:02:58):
Wow, all right, head into you all right, up on
that train. That's a short trip.

Speaker 1 (01:03:03):
To that's tight end too, for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:03:08):
Discontent.

Speaker 1 (01:03:09):
That's about it. All right, Let's get onto the veterans
side of things. Uh, Florida. Your your veteran riser who
got helped this weekend.

Speaker 3 (01:03:16):
DeAndre Swift I think was the biggest winner. Because the
Bears went out this offseason. Obviously they're bringing Ben Johnson,
they dramatically increased the interior part of their offensive line.
They added Luther Burden, they added Loveland, so you have
a lot of pass catchers there. They did literally nothing
to add to the running back room. And there was

(01:03:37):
like four different times in this draft where we saw
a running back or two go off the board and
the Bears traded out, So like, I think they had
in mind some specific running backs, but it didn't work out.
And this narrative that Ben Johnson hates DeAndre Swift, I
think is silly because like, yeah, he replaced him in
Detroit with Jamiir Gibbs, Like, yeah, that's the right call.

(01:04:01):
He was a good scout. He did what was best
for his offense. But whether it be DeAndre Swift or
like Roshawn Johnson who's going in the double digit rounds,
I just want to take both of those two guys
in my drafts and know that I have Ben Johnson's
lead running back on my roster.

Speaker 1 (01:04:17):
All right, I don't. I don't hate that at all,
you know, I just yeah, I don't know. I don't
know if his long term future is, but I think
the short term I think he's I think he's fine
there in Chicago.

Speaker 2 (01:04:26):
Yeah, I target with Ben Johnson that year. I'll tell
you that PPR is just.

Speaker 1 (01:04:30):
A one year thing.

Speaker 3 (01:04:31):
He'll be replaced after this year.

Speaker 1 (01:04:33):
He probably will be Yeah, for sure, who's your veteran
that won this weekend?

Speaker 2 (01:04:38):
QUI I mean, is he a veteran Chase Brown? I
mean he came out as a winner, you know, like
they didn't really go out there and get like one
of these high profile prospects. But there could be a
trade pending, who knows. I don't know. I mean the
Bengals traded for a running back last season, so I
don't I don't think that, you know, Chase Brown is
going to be looking too bad going in those early
rounds with a maximum workload, like they took Tie Brooks,
Like he's not going to be competing for touches, you know,

(01:05:00):
or Chase Brown. So the upside is there for him
to be one of the top ten running backs at
the end of the season. So shout out Chase Brown.

Speaker 1 (01:05:07):
All right, I have a trio. They all kind of
fit in the same box, right, young quarterbacks that got
helped Drake May, Bryce Young, CJ. Stroud. Their teams went
out and made it a point to bring in help,
whether it was wide receiver, running back, even a little
bit of offensive line help. But I think these teams
understand the value, or at least the perceived value of

(01:05:28):
being able to win with a quarterback on their first contract,
especially for the Texans who had the big rookie year
from CJ. Stroud wasn't quite as great in year two,
but feel like the window is still open. They're trying
to make sure that they can get him back to
where he was in year one. With Bryce Young, I
think the Panthers saw the evolution of him at the

(01:05:49):
end of last season, and now they're like, let's add
some more pieces. I mean them getting adding it at
Tech McMillan early on, I think goes a long way
toward helping him out. But they went out and added, yeah,
some other pieces there in that wide receiver room. I
think I'll get Jimmy Horn Junior in the sixth round.
They draft Trevor Eatz in the running back spot in
the fourth round. They really are trying to make things

(01:06:12):
better for Bryce Young there in Carolina. And then Drake May.
I mean we talked about everything the Patriots did going
out of getting wide receiver help, getting running back help.
You know, they obviously see the vision with Drake May there,
and you know they bring in Josh McDaniels to be
the play caller run the offense there. So I think
all three of those young quarterbacks had a very good
weekend as because of what their teams did around them.

(01:06:35):
Because I can never, you know, help but end this
show on a bad note. One day, I'll learn Today's
not that day, Hope, Floya, who's your veteran that fell
this weekend?

Speaker 3 (01:06:46):
There was a lot of running backs that I think
could have rose or fallen this weekend, and sadly, Jalen
Warren fell, Like.

Speaker 1 (01:06:52):
I want him.

Speaker 3 (01:06:53):
I just want one year of what Jalen Warren could
be as a lead back. But Mike Tomlin and the
Steelers have shown us that they think he is just
a really good RB two change of pace guy. They
don't think he can be that workhorse guy because they
went out they used a premium pick on Caleb Johnson
and we were joking about it. But the new nause
Harris right, Like, I think the split and the usage

(01:07:15):
is gonna be pretty similar to what we've seen in
the last couple of years, which means that Warren is
an RB three for fantasy purposes. He'll have a couple
of big games, but you we're not going to get
the ceiling that we were hoping to get out of him.

Speaker 1 (01:07:30):
Wow, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:07:34):
I mean, look, you know, I love my rams. I
mean this is an obvious faller right here with Kyra
Williams because he was already falling before the draft before
we went out and got a running back again that
we do every year. But you have to feel for
the guy, like honestly, like I love everything he did
for us for these last couple of seasons. But Jarquez
Hunter is on the way and he's gonna be hunting
for that job. And honestly, look at it, like you

(01:07:55):
got a guy that has no gloves when he's toting
that rock. This is kambu grip on that ball, like
he's filling the area that we need and that's ball security.
Kyron cannot keep dropping these balls. Two crucial balls in
both Eagles games that he dropped the ball. And look,
dark Quez only had one fumble last season. So therefore,
you got a guy that's a workhorse, that is an
Auburn guy. You know, Lesnian and his connection mean that

(01:08:16):
he's an Auburn guy. I see the favoritism of going
into this next season where he's gonna have to split
that load. He's already taking a step back in that
red zone area because We're going to be throwing the
ball as heavy as we were when Matthew Stafford first
got there in LA in twenty twenty one because of
Devonte Adams and Pokin Nakula. So you're throwing all those
factors in. There's no way I could see Kyron even
being a top ten running back this season.

Speaker 1 (01:08:38):
He just went Blake corm out on the sidewalk with
a sign that says.

Speaker 2 (01:08:41):
Oh he's there. He'll be mixed in all right.

Speaker 1 (01:08:46):
As didn't know if you were done with him either.
I love him.

Speaker 2 (01:08:50):
He hasn't gotten on the bat list yet.

Speaker 1 (01:08:51):
For those of y'all who don't know. By the way,
like Lakwan has this love hate relationship with Kyrien Williams,
Like it just really depends on the day how he
feels about Kyen Williams.

Speaker 3 (01:09:01):
Wasn't it Thursday night? You were like, I'm back in,
Like yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:09:04):
Like, well, basically because he saw somebody else, he saw
somebody else sort of hating on kyn Williams, and it
was like, hey, man, like you know, you can't hate
like I can hate on Kyrin because he's like on
my team. But you can't get it. You get big brother,
big brother, little brother. Thing like I can talk trash
about Kyra but you can't.

Speaker 2 (01:09:23):
So he was man the love of the game, the
love for the Brams, that you cannot drop that ball
and he's not really that explosive. So that's one of
those things that you know, come on, we got to
pick it up, you know, I mean.

Speaker 3 (01:09:35):
Usurped or do you think that he's the lead guy.
But Hunter just plays a big enough role where it prevents.

Speaker 2 (01:09:43):
Look, Kyra will be the lead back, he will eat first.
It's just that he's gonna have to share his plate.
And that's honestly what we started to see after that
Saints game last season, getting Blake Orn sprinkled in right
before the playoffs, Korm gets injured and we don't ever
get to see that at a full dynamic of that
one two punch. You bring in hunter ball security and explosiveness.
I mean ninety four yard touchdown run he had last season,

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which was the longest in program history for Alburt. These
are areas that we needed in him and he's not
providing that. So we need to get the ball less
in his hand so he doesn't fumble it. That's just
literally what it is.

Speaker 1 (01:10:17):
Man, thirteen hundred plus yards and double digit touchdowns fifteen.

Speaker 2 (01:10:21):
Plus touchdown in the next seasons, fumble at the fumble
and fumble.

Speaker 3 (01:10:26):
I think Kurrent's underrated, but that's just me.

Speaker 1 (01:10:29):
I do too, So yeah, okay, that's fine, It's all right,
uh for me. And maybe he wasn't the biggest faller,
but I think Sam Darnold, you know, they the Seahawks
sent him a reminder that you're you know, you might
be here for a good time, but you're not here
for a long time. Buddy. You'll be comfortable, right, I mean,
it's not This is not on par with the Falcons

(01:10:52):
going out and drafting Michael Pinnox in the top ten
or whatever it was. But this is just like, hey, man,
like you're not the future here, like we were glad
you're here. We respected what you did last year in Minnesota,
but we are planning for the future. In that future
right now looks like Jaln Milrose. So don't get comfortable.
I wouldn't look at buying long term real estate in

(01:11:14):
Seattle unless you just happened like the area, so you
did something to keep in mind. And now obviously they're
putting weapons there around him. You know, they go out
and get Yeah, they bringing Cooper Cup, who I know
is not what he was a few years ago, but
still a guy who can make plays for you. You know,
they are bringing in wide receiver weapons, are bringing wide
receiver help. You mentioned Elijah Royo. They bring in at

(01:11:35):
the tight end spot. So they're trying to do things
to help the offense a little bit. But I think
for for Sam Donald, this is a thing where he's
kind of looking over his shoulder a little bit at the.

Speaker 2 (01:11:46):
Least seen the movie before kind.

Speaker 1 (01:11:49):
JJ McCarthy, Sam Donald, JJ McCarthy kind of thing that thing.

Speaker 2 (01:11:53):
And also would Carson Wentz and Jalen Hurts. I mean
they brought me weapons from Wentz and then here you go,
here's the new hot toy that can run.

Speaker 3 (01:12:01):
Yeah, I think they're too invested in year one too.

Speaker 1 (01:12:06):
No, year one. I think it's Donald's. It's Donald's gig.
But it hurts.

Speaker 2 (01:12:10):
It took a little while, but we saw it, so
who knows what happens?

Speaker 1 (01:12:14):
Don't get I mean you even go back to what
was it Matt Flynn and Russell Wilson. I mean, you know,
you could go back to the same Seattle Seahawks, right,
I know he wasn't mad. Never forget that Mike Glennon
was the reason that Russell Wilson had to transfer and
then Mike Glennon, Mike Glennon got picked over Russell Wilson

(01:12:35):
in a quarterback competition. Ed. Yeah, man, uh so Wilson
left in c State, went to Wisconsin, but NFL.

Speaker 2 (01:12:44):
He went to the Bears.

Speaker 3 (01:12:46):
He was the starter Whenbisky was there.

Speaker 1 (01:12:47):
I remember that. Yeah, he also was in I think
it was in Tampa for him.

Speaker 3 (01:12:52):
Yeah, he was a journeyman for sure.

Speaker 1 (01:12:55):
Yes, drafted by Tampa, went to the Bears for a year. Cardinals, Raiders, Jaguars, Giants.

Speaker 2 (01:13:00):
When did the Cardinals happen? It must have been Rosen er, right,
he must have been.

Speaker 1 (01:13:05):
It was the ros In year.

Speaker 2 (01:13:08):
Yeah, all right, makes sense.

Speaker 3 (01:13:09):
Dude, Josh Rosen. I know we got to end. But
he caught such a stray yesterday because people were calling
out the Bills GM for not drafting a GM and
he just went up on the radio and was like,
in twenty eighteen, you guys wanted Josh Rosen And I
was like, oh my god, dude.

Speaker 1 (01:13:29):
Ross in business school, just mine in his own business, right,
now and I will I will take this off today.
I thought Josh Rosen would. I didn't think he had
the highest ceiling, but I thought he was the most
ready to go out of the guys in that draft.
I thought he was the most pro ready. You got
Steve Wilks fired. Yeah, open the door, Open the door
for Kyler Murray and Arizona. Here you go. There, it

(01:13:50):
is all right, BF show. That was to be expected
after everything that went down over the weekend. Back on Thursday,
tried to a mock draft. Huh, maybe we can get
a mock draft going tomorrow. Maybe get to going tomorrow.
We could talk about it potentially on Thursday, because you
know now that that guys have homes, that's going to
change a whole lot of things. So either way, we'll

(01:14:10):
come up with games, we'll come home something to talk
about on Thursday, and then we'll talk about, you know,
where LaQuan drafted, Terrence Ferguson and all that kind of stuff.
So that spoiler I did not. That'll do it for
this edition of the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. They happy
saying healthy, do good and live well. Enjoying the week everybody.
We will talk to you again on Thursday, wo

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