2025 NFL Draft Night 1 Fantasy Recap + Panthers WR Xavier Legette Interview!

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Speaker 1 (00:11):
What's up, everybody. Welcome to a special edition of the
NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. I'm Marcus Grant, joined by Michael f.
Florio and Lakwan Jones here hanging out with you after
the first round of the NFL Draft. Night one is
in the books. Officially we've had thirty two picks. I'm

(00:32):
just saying we had thirty two teams too. That is
not the case because the Rams traded out and New
York Giants got a second pick in the first round.
So you see, Lawan, they're fist pumping because the Giants
traded back in. The Falcons did get what a second
pick in the first round as well, so we had
a couple of teams that did have two picks in

(00:54):
the first round. But otherwise, thirty two picks are gone,
a handful of fantasy relevant picks, some surprises in the
first round as well, some names that we thought might
get called that did not get called. So we will
dive into all of that and more. Of course, if
he got questioned, if you have things you want to
kind of talk about, you can drop them in the

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chat and we'll be glad to discuss some of those
as well. But in the meantime, we're gonna go through
some of these picks. Also a little bit of a surprise.
We've got a surprise for you all we know about this.
I had a chance to talk to Carolina Panthers wide
receiver Xavier Leget earlier in the week. Now I will
warn you that we talked to him before we knew

(01:38):
what the Panthers were going to do with their first
round pick, so we did not ask him about Ted
Roll McMillan or anything that was going to happen with
the Panthers offense. So just be aware of that when
you hear the interview later on in the show. But
let's get started. Let's show all the fantasy relevant guys
that went in the first round here and what do

(02:02):
we got? Ten guys that should could make a fantasy
impact in year one go in the first round of
it and uh, well, fels I guess. Let me get
your overall thoughts. Floorial will start with you your overall
thoughts on what you saw in this first round.

Speaker 2 (02:17):
It was more entertaining for real life purposes than for fantasy.
I mean, we got the the early big names that
we expected. They felt to good spots, But after that
like only got two qbs, only two running backs. I
thought maybe we'd get another wide receiver in there. So
and then some weirdness too, like uh like loveling going

(02:40):
over war in. It was overall an interesting night, and uh,
it was really fun for me because my Knicks got
an NBA playoff dumb tonight too, So I'm really having
a good night.

Speaker 1 (02:51):
I mean, lakwan. I know the Rams did not pick
because the Rams don't like first round picks. That's just
the thing we know about them. But it ended will
be a good end the I think being a good
night for the Rams, nonetheless, But just your overall thoughts
of what you saw in night one.

Speaker 3 (03:05):
Night one was great, man, just seeing some of these
players go off the board, and then you immediately just
start thinking, like, oh my god, this guy's fantasy relevant.
He's going into a great situation. But then there's the
confusing one. I was really confused about the Bucks, like
a mecha boa.

Speaker 4 (03:20):
Whoa, Like what the heck was that?

Speaker 3 (03:23):
But you know what, I kind of see the vision
Mike Evans is getting up there in age. You have,
you have Chris Godwin back and signed. But I'm just
trying to see how all this will work and what
his year one impact will look like like. Man, that's
just a little weird. That was the most oddest pick
for me. Honestly, I don't.

Speaker 1 (03:39):
Know if that was the oddest one for me. We'll
get into that one a little bit later, but that
was definitely I think a head scratched. I think, you know,
the interested is sort of talk through this as we
get down to that pick a little bit later on
in this show. Very surprised, I think at the lack
of skill position guys that went in the first round
of this draft. But we were also talking before we

(04:01):
came up live that rounds two and three I think
will be very heavy with fantasy relevant players. We're gonna
see a lot of running backs. We're gonna see a
lot of wide receivers. We're gonna get some more quarterbacks,
I think in rounds two and three as well. So
I do think that Friday is going to be a
very interesting day when it comes to fantasy football. But

(04:22):
still I thought we'd see maybe another wide receiver or two.
I kind of assume that we'd only get the two
running backs that that went as I anticipated, thought, maybe
we get one more quarterback then we did, so a
little bit surprised by difference. Second one definitely definitely a

(04:42):
different second one for sure. So like let's just let's
start at the top. Then here, guys, no surprise at all,
cam Ward the number one overall pick going to the
Tennessee Titans. You know, we joked on our podcast not
that long ago that you know he was naming his
top five reivers in the NFL, and yeah he had

(05:03):
he had the Calvin Ridley and Treylan Burks as to
his top five guys in the NFL. So already trying
to basically butter up his guys in that wide receiver room.
But I mean, I'll ask you, Lakwan Kim Ward in
redraft leagues, is he a guy you're interested in taking

(05:24):
a shot at Leyden drafts this year?

Speaker 3 (05:26):
If you're a team that likes to draft two quarterbacks,
who'll probably be my second quarterback? Like the same way
we approached Caleb Williams last season, Like I kind of
look at that situation like it was a question mark,
Like we know how good he is, we know his
generational talent, But the situation here with the Titans, it's
kind of like, let's just wait and see how this
plays out. Because I know they just signed Tyler Lockett
and Calvin Ridley has been such a deep threat. There's

(05:49):
still more that they're gonna add to this Titans offense.
I don't think they're done adding wide receivers whatsoever, but
most likely looking at Kim Ward as a guy you
get in those later rounds, like if you want a
QB two just to hit on the upside, why not,
Because honestly, we know the talent is there. There's a
lot of traits and qualities that we explained about cam
Ward to what he brings to the table, bring us
a lot of what they lacked last season. And the

(06:11):
number one thing that I see that pops off tape
that Will Levis did not have was pocket awareness.

Speaker 4 (06:16):
Like it just did not exist with Will Levis last season.

Speaker 3 (06:19):
So you bringing cam Ward a guy that could shift
and move around in that pocket and has a deep
arm that's accurate as well. I know Calvin Ridley is
just grinning in the ear to ear right now, like,
oh man, I cannot wait to catch some of those
deep balls with him.

Speaker 1 (06:32):
I mean, Floryda, I know how you feel about cam Ward.
You were a big cam Ward guy. Throughout this process.
Does it make you feel a little more excited about,
say a Calvin Ridley drafting him in fantasy?

Speaker 2 (06:44):
Yeah, I think so. Like I'm not super I really
like cam Ward for real life purposes. For fantasy, I
agree with what LQ said, he's like a dart throw
later in drafts, but he's good for all. Like he's
better than Will Levis, he better than Mason Rudolph. He's
better than everyone who is throwing the ball in Tennessee
last season. So he's really toolsy. And that's what I

(07:07):
like for Calvin Ridley is he has a cannon for
an arm. He can he can air it out downfield
and even more so, like there could be this much space,
he does not care. He's like Calvin Ridley's there, I
know I can get this ball in that. And I
think that's something Brian Callahan is gonna have to kind
of coach out of him a little bit, maybe not
forcing as many throws, but I would always rather have

(07:29):
a young QB trust his arm too much and kind
of have to dial that back than vice versa. But yeah,
I think it's arrows up for all of the Titans
pass catchers right now and just get ready for cam
Ward because he is the biggest on field troll I've
ever seen, Like.

Speaker 4 (07:45):
He plays with his.

Speaker 2 (07:48):
Food like no quarterback I've ever seen.

Speaker 1 (07:50):
Yeah, it is interesting when you watch him sort of
scramble around that you know, and you and I think
talked about this very early in the process, that he
would sort of like almost he's the defender, right, he's
sort of slowing down as he gets to the sideline. Yeah,
and he was like, you know what I mean he is.
He's the kid that when you played tag, he would
sort of like run toward base and then wait for

(08:12):
you to get close and he put his hand down
like on the tree like I'm safe. I mean, you
can't get me.

Speaker 2 (08:17):
I forget who it was against. But in one game
he had such so much time in the pocket he
stood flat footed like the play was blown dead, just
like what are you doing?

Speaker 1 (08:26):
Yeah, so very interesting. I want to take a look
at the if we could the the Titan sort of
and it's not updated to include cam Ward just yet,
but the Titan sort of, uh screen here what we
got there? Obviously, I said, cam warden not on here yet,
so you could put him over Will Levis at the
quarterback position over Tim.

Speaker 2 (08:45):
Boyle, though.

Speaker 1 (08:46):
Look, NFL bylaws say that if Tim Boyle is on
a roster, he must play at least one game during
the season. Those are just the rules. I don't make them.
That's just how it works. But you want to look
at this room here, Calvin Ridley Van Jefferson, by the way,
we haven't mentioned because it happened since our last podcast,

(09:07):
Tyler Lockett going to the Tennessee Titans, So he's another
weapon that cam Ward is going to have to work
with their in Tennessee. Interesting backfield. We saw Tony Pollard
have a really nice season there. Tyja Spears kind of
an afterthought a little bit. Chigakon Kuo, a talented player
who we're looking to see if he can finally kind
of pop in this offense. But they have at least

(09:27):
they believe they have the quarterback that can sort of
make it happen.

Speaker 2 (09:30):
There.

Speaker 3 (09:31):
Solid offense man, just looking at it, like Tony Pollard,
Tajay Spears. You got a one two punch there, you
could run efficiently, and like Tony Poller quietly was like
top ten in.

Speaker 4 (09:40):
Explosive plays as well.

Speaker 3 (09:41):
So that's a real good look for this roster now
looking at it, A lot of guys that can go
deep and stretch the field as well. My guy Van Jefferson,
I got to put it on former Ram, you know,
I got to put it on for my boys man,
but he could definitely, you know, stretch the field at times.
So it was Tyn Lockett. So cam Ward is just
going to be airing this ball out every Sunday. I
cannot wait to that.

Speaker 2 (10:00):
One thing he did in college a lot that I
love is when the defense was like, we know he's
gonna air it out, he was like, all right, I'll
just jump it off to the running back. So that
that could be a really good thing for Pollard and Spears.

Speaker 4 (10:09):
Collar and Spears. Yeah, that won two punch is amazing.

Speaker 1 (10:12):
Yeah, it should be very very interesting there. Let's move
on to the number two pick, which was supposed to
be the Cleveland Browns, was not the Cleveland Browns because
they traded out for the Jacksonville Jaguars, and the Jaguars
go on and they take Travis Hunter at number two overall. Now,
he was announced as I don't know if they said

(10:34):
I can't remeber if they said cornerback, wide receiver or
wide receiver quarterback first. Yeah, but both of those positions
were listed when Travis Hunter's name was announced. So I
don't know if you guys have seen anything. I certainly
have not seen anything any idea of what the Jaguars

(10:55):
want to do with Travis Hunter. Do we know how
much they want to use him at the wide receiver spot.

Speaker 2 (11:04):
I don't think they move up to not use him
at wide receiver right, Like I think they know all
their eggs are in the Trevor Lawrence basket right now,
and like Liam Cohen was brought in to save Trevor
Lawrence and get the most out of the money they
paid him, and that, Yeah, and I mean Travis Hunter
opposite of Brian Thomas Junior. Like, there's literally no excuses

(11:25):
for you now. You got the number one wide receiver
in this class, one of the best from last year,
two elite guys to playmakers who could win in a
number of different ways. Like I think he's gonna play
wide receiver primarily and have some cornerback sprinkled in. But
if you're telling me that he's gonna play most of
his snaps at wide receiver, I think he's a top
thirty wide receiver for fantasy.

Speaker 3 (11:45):
I love that take. I'd love that take right there
at top thirty. I'm actually feeling a little bit better
because we were on the pod last week and I
was like, yo, I'm not I'm not drafting them at all,
but he's going to do like I honestly feel like,
oh man, this is about to beat exciting to get
him on that offense, for him to be electric, just
like Brian Thomas Junior. It's just like, Wow, Liam Cole

(12:07):
is gonna have a lot of fun. And you said it.
He's there to save Trevor Lards because he's in my head,
He's in my Satchel discontent. He was the og of
it because it's just like, wow, we have not seen
the best of Trevor Lawrence and if he doesn't get
it together, this season might be a dub.

Speaker 1 (12:26):
Yeah. I just I'm still I'm still very curious how
much of a wide receiver workload any team wants to
give him. I'm at this point convinced that he's going
to play both sides of the football, right, He's gonna
play both corner and wide receiver. I just don't know,
does he get a full compliment of snaps because if

(12:48):
he is just a guy with a package of plays
at wide receiver, is that gonna be enough to satisfy
what we want? And I guess some of it is
going to depend on the ADP. Know, that's the thing
we talked about with him Rey Hunt earlier this week,
talk about his a DP based on you know, what
we anticipate his workload is going to be. And I

(13:08):
think that's going to be very very key. I think
we're gonna have to find that out sort of as
we get through training camp in the preseason see exactly
what they want to do with Travis Hunter, and that's
going to sort of make a big deal about that,
you know. I do think it was interesting though, because
I think we all thought the Browns were gonna do
something big at number two and it didn't really happen.

(13:31):
At this point, Marcel say, we agree the Browns got
finessed right, basically only getting a late pick this year
and a first next year.

Speaker 2 (13:42):
We could have got Hunter and Sanders like the board
fell for them, where that could have been very realistic.

Speaker 1 (13:48):
Yeah, exactly, they could have got both. They could have
got the two guys that made the Buffaloes go and
they get, they get none, at least at least at
least not yet. Right, there's still a chance they could
get Shador Sanders. He's still out there. That's still the possibility. Yeah,

(14:09):
it's funny because I saw the trade happen, right, I
saw the details of the trade. And I've seen a
lot of people You're posting that they were watching the
movie Draft day in the last twenty four hours. You know,
I didn't watch it this year. I have not watched it.

Speaker 3 (14:25):
Yeah, it's like not watching the Christmas Story right before Christmas.

Speaker 1 (14:28):
What do you do?

Speaker 2 (14:29):
You got to get David Putney.

Speaker 1 (14:31):
Yeah, I just right. It's like, well, it's funny because
you know what it's. It's the Browns trading with the
Jaguars in the movie. It's the Browns getting the best
of the Jags and they get to the number one
pig and they get Vonte.

Speaker 2 (14:44):
Mack Jags GM. It lined up perfectly.

Speaker 1 (14:46):
It lines up so perfectly, it's so perfect. Greg. Yeah,
I don't know why the Browns look. All I can say, Greg,
is that there's a reason bad teams stay bad. That's
all I know. There's a reason that team stay bad
because they make some of the similar mistakes year after
year after year. So that's that's sort of all I know.

(15:09):
Moving along at number six, this was one again. Like
we all knew cam Ward was going number one to
the Tennessee Titans. I think we were all pretty sure
that as long as he was there, Ashton Johnty was
going number six to the Las Vegas Raiders. Yeah, you know,
consensus number one running back in this class. I know

(15:31):
Emrie Hunt said he didn't think the gap between you know,
John C and say Omarion Hampton or Trayvon Henderson was
as big as a lot of other people seem to believe.
But we all sort of believed he was the number
one guy. I mean, simple question, Florio, where are you
willing to reach to get Ashton Johnty, Because you know
you're going to have to reach to get Ashton Johnty.

Speaker 2 (15:54):
I think late first, early second feels like a nice
sweet spot for him. But I was looking at RB
ranks right and I'm like, obviously he's behind Saquon, Bjeon
and Gibbs. But after those three, I don't think there's
another slam dunk RB ahead of gent Like I think
it's conversations then, and I wanted to have some fun,

(16:17):
so I put out a bunch of poles on Twitter
and it was just in PPR because that's what we
played on NFL. Who would you rather have? Genty? Or
He won every single poll then, And maybe it's just
you know, hype right now, but the names were Derrick
Henry A Chan, Christian McCaffrey, Jonathan Taylor, Bucky Irving, Josh Jacobs.
He ran away with all of them. So maybe it's

(16:38):
just reactionary, but I think he's gonna go in like
somewhere in the RB four to like six or seven
range at latest.

Speaker 3 (16:46):
Bro I'm look just talking with my friends, shout out
to my folks that are back in Jersey, but they're
saying they're gonna be taking them, like in that mix
of the names that you just named, the b Jon,
the Gibbs, that Barkley, and like, I honestly think he's
walking into a situation there's no running back behind him
that is going to take touches Chip Kelly, Pete Carroll.

(17:07):
They want to run the rock. That three hundred and
fifty touch mark is on the table for him. I
honestly think they're going to go out there and just
let him just run the ball every single play. Gino
Smith's going to have the easiest job ever in life
of just turning around and handing the rock to this
bulldozer because they need to revamp that run game. It
was god off last season. I mean, rps A Mere White.

Speaker 4 (17:30):
You know, a lot of we felt for the trap.
We are still starting here.

Speaker 1 (17:35):
We had that moment, we had the moment we had to.

Speaker 4 (17:37):
Figure out this was a real person last season. But
light Peter since here too.

Speaker 5 (17:41):
Geez.

Speaker 3 (17:42):
But I honestly think there's PPR upside here with Genti
as well, because I spoke about it before. Like with
Gino Smith there, he is a dump off artist. If
it's trouble in the waters in the trenches, he's going
to drop the ball off. He was top five and
running back targets last season, top ten since twenty twenty
two and run back targets as well. So I honestly
seen Pete Carroll playing to his strength of understanding, like

(18:05):
if you want to bail out, you got this bulldozer
in open space that cannot be tackled, that is going
to go get lost upfield and find his way in
the end zone. So I honestly think there's some PPR
upside with Jent and that's why he belongs in that
conversation when you're in that first round of taking a
running back, because I'm telling you now, man him going
before Barkley, I would not be surprised.

Speaker 4 (18:27):
I would not be surprised.

Speaker 3 (18:29):
So you think he goes before Saquon, Yes, I honestly
think if you do it, like, nobody's gonna side on you.

Speaker 4 (18:36):
Like what are you doing? No, there's a lot of
time coming his way.

Speaker 2 (18:39):
But I think the consensus is gonna be Saquon.

Speaker 6 (18:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (18:42):
I just think, like, I know, we've made the statement.
I have made the statement that I'm not touching Saquon
in the first round just because the history of two
thousand yard backs is not a great one. But I
still think the consensus is Saquon is going to go
very highly. Everybody's gonna be like, don't overthink it. It's
a great running back behind a great offensive line and
a great offense. So you know, I just I think

(19:06):
I think I know there's gonna be hype. I know
there's gonna be a lot of excitement. I'm not sure
that maybe outside of you know, some of us nut
jobs who do this for a living, or do this
because we are man like weird to start drafting right

(19:26):
after the Super Bowl, right like, you're not We're not right.
Just it's fine, just own it. We're not right. Something's
wrong with us, that's it. Uh So, you know, I
just I think that's a thing that that we got
to sort of keep in mind there. But but wow,
I mean, you just threw that out there justin.

Speaker 3 (19:44):
I'm gonna throw it every single week we come up here. Man,
I'm campaigning for him to go before Barkley. I don't
know where Barkley's gonna go exactly in order, but I
rather the fresh new toy. He's gonna get maximum buying
with nobody behind him. Like I understand Barkley's there as
the guy as well unders and he just ran for
two thousand yards. But I'm just betting on regression, and
I'm betting on ashion genty just being the RB one

(20:06):
next year. I'm gonna put it out there, all right.

Speaker 2 (20:09):
I think I think you said though past catching, I
think he's a much better pass catcher than he gets
credit for. They just they didn't need him to do
that in Boys. Yes, No, one could drop it on
the ground yards.

Speaker 1 (20:19):
Yeah, yeah, no, I think I think that's that's definitely
fair for sure. Next up at number eight, the Carolina
Panthers go with Teterro and McMillan, which I think at
the time was maybe a little bit of a surprise.
I don't know that anybody anticipated that the Panthers are
gonna go with a wide receiver there. But Floya, I

(20:44):
don't hate it. I really don't hate it at all.
At number eight for Carolina.

Speaker 2 (20:49):
I actually really like this for them because they remember
during free agency they got No. One and we were like,
look we love and exaviorly get friends of the show.
He wanted a little bit more help there too for
Bryce Young and team Matt could slide in and be
there one him and Leguet could like Flick. That's what
I like about McMillan is he's a chess piece on

(21:11):
this team, Like he doesn't have a defined role. He
could kind of play all over the field. You could
he can be your ex but if you want, you
can move him inside at times, you can move them
all over. He's a big bodied receiver. He could win downfield.

Speaker 1 (21:25):
But what I think his.

Speaker 2 (21:26):
Biggest calling card is, and I think it got overlooked
a lot by by some people during this process, Like
what he could do after the catch as a runner,
I know people are gonna see his size and think,
just throw the ball downfield, let him jump up and
get it. But as a pure runner, like his strides
are so long that he could outrun any dB in
the league. So, uh, he's the type of receiver that

(21:48):
can make life a lot easier on Bryce Young.

Speaker 1 (21:50):
Yeah. I mean, so now you've got you've got some
young guys there in that in that wide receiver room
for for Carolina. Uh you know, so you got Coker,
you got Leeguet. Uh, your thelan is sort of the
the veteran a little bit, you know, not a little bit.
He's very much the veteran in that room. We loved

(22:12):
him though, Yeah, I mean no, we don't really look
he's obviously for end of the show he came on,
we talked about severance with him, like, you know, we're
we're down with Adam Thelen for sure. But it does
seem like they're building and they're trying to They're they're
continually trying to get help for Bryce Young. That is
a good thing, you know, and that was the thing

(22:32):
that we saw, you know last year, Right, they bring
in Coker, they bring in Leguet, They're obviously trying to
build around their number one overall, pick the guy they
think and be their franchise quarterback. And we saw the
improvement from him as the season went along last year.
But I'll say this, Lakwan even still McMillan year one,

(22:54):
I don't know that he's more than a wide receiver three?
Is he?

Speaker 2 (22:57):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (22:57):
That that's where I was going with it, like a
why three or four?

Speaker 3 (23:01):
Because you're really taking a shot because honestly, looking at
him like you want to plug him as the wide
receiver one. But I just don't look at it that
way that they're gonna constantly keep feeding him that volume
that A one actually needs for a target share. Like
I don't see him coming in with a twenty percent
target share where most of the elite guys get like
it's gonna be spread apart with you know, Jalen Koker,

(23:21):
it's gonna be Xavirie La Guett moving around here and there,
and you still have old man Thielin going out there
putting up big number. So it's more so looking at
he's gonna be utilized properly, and the way that Florio
served him up the yards after the catch is definitely there.
He is such a huge threat in the middle of
the field as well, so lining him up all over
the place is gonna give defenses just constantly guessing like

(23:42):
where this ball is gonna go. And you obviously get
Bryce Young more guys that he could really dispose and
get the ball out quick, because honestly, will you watch
t max tape. I mean, honestly, the comeback route is
one of the most elite things that he has in
his arsenal because of his length, it's strength after the call.
So they're getting guys that can separate. That was such

(24:03):
a huge issue for the Panthers when they couldn't find
wide receivers to create that separation. So I think this
is such a good pick, But for fantasy managers, we
have to have our expectations tempered because I know people
want to peg him as a wide receiver one on
that team, but he's just simply probably not going to
get that type of buyme.

Speaker 1 (24:23):
Yeah, I think that's the thing I see in the
chat Tom O'Malley saying I like the look of McMillan
for fantasy, and I don't disagree. I do think there's
something there. I think it's more of a longer term play.
I'm not sure that it's going to necessarily pay huge
dividends for you in year one, but I do think
down the road there is something here. If Bryce Young

(24:44):
continues to develop the way we saw him develop at
the end of last season, they've got some weapons there.
I think if we see more from le get Get,
a little bit from Cocher, I would like to see
them maybe upgrade the offensive line a little bit as well.
But I do I think there's something there with tar
Ro McMillan there in Carolina.

Speaker 2 (25:05):
Real quick. Shout out to Tom O'Malley because he's he
put in the chat that it is five am in
Ireland right now, So.

Speaker 1 (25:12):
Shout out to you, for sure, sir. We salute you
for hanging out with us at this point in the day,
for sure. Next up, Colston Loveland is the first side
end off the board. He goes number ten to the
Chicago Bears. And this is what I think caught a

(25:34):
lot of us by surprise. Maybe not Daniel Jeremiah, but
Daniel Jeremiah is sort of you know, he's the oracle
when it comes to these sorts of things, right, Like,
maybe we should have known because he had them very
much neck and neck. I thought maybe there was some
daylight between Tyler Warren and Colston Loveland. Apparently not. The
Bears loved him enough to take him at ten. In fact,

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I believe I saw he was the first tight end
the Bears have taken inside the top ten since a
guy named Mike Ditka many many many years ago.

Speaker 2 (26:07):
Did he have a good career?

Speaker 1 (26:08):
I'm not sure he had. He had an okay career?

Speaker 4 (26:10):
Uh that that with Will ferrelle.

Speaker 1 (26:15):
Who knows. Maybe that's the thing, and maybe he could
probably won't be any movies with Will Ferrell, but maybe
something maybe there's something else there. I don't know, but
you know, I was sort of the opinion that really
the only guy that we might be able to rely
on as a first year tight end was going to

(26:38):
be Tyler Warren. I mean, LaQuan, do I have to
rethink that is Colston Lovelin? Now maybe a guy we
got to pay attention to in fantasy drafts this year?

Speaker 3 (26:48):
Absolutely? Do you know who's on the sticks over there
in Chicago? Ben Johnson, Like, boy, we saw his impact
with san Laporta in his first year. I honestly think
this was a pick where they're comfortable with moving him
in the slot, moving around because Keenan Allen's still on
the streets right now and they were okay moving on
for him. But they get another big body, tight end,
another playmaker for them in Colston Lovelin. I'm honestly thinking, like, hey,

(27:12):
he's definitely gonna come off the draft boards over Tyler Warren,
just based on the creativity of what Ben Johnson and
the quarterback play. Like, Caleb Williams is set up for
success and they've been building those trenches to give him
protection and having a guy like Loveland having that size
and being able to move the way he does in
the route running and contested catch Like, there's so many
qualities about Loveland that, honestly, I don't see how Caleb

(27:35):
Williams fails.

Speaker 1 (27:38):
I mean, could could Caleb Williams possibly fail?

Speaker 7 (27:46):
Why?

Speaker 1 (27:48):
No, I'm saying it because I'm I'm cautious, like I
want I don't want him to fail, But like you know,
everybody was so hyped on him last year and it.

Speaker 2 (27:57):
Was just kind of nah, if he it's on him right,
like the play calling upgrade, the O line upgrade. He's
got good pass catchers around him. They're probably gonna draft
a running back tomorrow or Saturday, like they all. I
like this pick a lot more for Caleb than I
do for Loveland himself. I think Loveland probably gets drafted

(28:21):
in that like low end tighten one, high end tight
end two range. But DJ Moore is going to see
what twenty five percent of the targets Roma Dnesay I
expect is going to have a large target share.

Speaker 1 (28:32):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (28:33):
We know the running backs are gonna be involved in
the passing game, and I don't think cole Kmet just
goes away. So like, I don't think I think Comet's
days of being fantasy relevant might be over, at least
for this end season.

Speaker 4 (28:46):
But I like, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (28:49):
I don't feel like this was a slam dunk for Loveland.

Speaker 1 (28:55):
It does feel like he's a nice piece for the
Action Bears offense. Yeah, but I'm not sure that he's
the piece that we're gonna say He's not going to
fill in where you know, Sam Laporta and Brock Bauers
were as rookies, like I don't see that happening.

Speaker 4 (29:15):
I ain't say all that. I say all that.

Speaker 2 (29:20):
You know, Lakwan instead of here tight end won this year.

Speaker 1 (29:23):
So then okay, so Lakwan, I'll ask you this then,
Colston Loveletard T. J. Hawkinson Man, ah man, that was
you had to think about it. You really didn't have
to think about it.

Speaker 3 (29:36):
Yeah, I'm going to think about my thoughts before I
just spew you out. But uh, I probably would go
Hawk then. And you know, you know how I feel
about Hawk this year. I'm a little little I might
go howk to feel a little safer.

Speaker 1 (29:49):
Oh so you so we found somebody that.

Speaker 4 (29:53):
It's a it's a rookie. I'm still taking John Ue
a Hawk.

Speaker 1 (29:57):
And we don't have that. Well, you're taking John new
because you know you had to.

Speaker 2 (30:03):
X where the blonde hair is.

Speaker 1 (30:04):
It's true we did. Heywood Wong wants to know where
where is the hair dye? Hair dye job for La Kwan.

Speaker 4 (30:11):
You know, my wife is not really a big fan
of it.

Speaker 3 (30:13):
So I still want to sleep in the same bed
and cut on and not be looked at it as
a complete crazy maniac with blonde hair.

Speaker 4 (30:21):
Out of noise.

Speaker 1 (30:21):
Everybody I thought she. I thought she sort of warmed
up to it. I mean, you only had it for
like thirty six hours, but I thought she got warmed
up to it a little bit.

Speaker 4 (30:28):
She ain't that big of a fan of it.

Speaker 1 (30:30):
All right, all right, fair enough, fair enough. As we
go down the list, Uh so Colston loved Them goes
at number ten. Number fourteen is Tyler Warren. Uh he
goes to the Indianapolis Colts. They were very much considered
a favorite to go and get a tight end. I
think everybody thought they were going to get Tyler Warren.

(30:51):
I think everybody just thought that Warren was gonna come
over the bar before Loveland did. Uh is the only
thing there that was I think the only surprise. I
love Tyler Warren. I think now I think he is
the next guy to follow in the laporta brock Bauers footsteps.
And now I don't think, let me just preface it here.

(31:12):
I don't think he's gonna go out and set some
sort of rookie record for tight end receptions the way
we saw with brock Bauers or anything like that. But
I do think, and you know, you guys can correct
me if you think I'm wrong if I'm crazy, but Lakwan,
I do think that Tyler Warren will be talking about
him as a top ten, maybe even top eight fantasy

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tight end this year.

Speaker 4 (31:35):
But who's going to be the quarterback?

Speaker 1 (31:37):
Yeah, that's the biggest issue here.

Speaker 3 (31:40):
That a huge question mark that I don't know, Like,
I'm so hesitant because one, they never had a problem
of finding pass catchers that were weapons.

Speaker 4 (31:49):
Alex Pierce, he's a deep threat. Michael Pittman.

Speaker 3 (31:51):
We haven't seen the best of him because he had
an injury last season, but cool, he is still serviceable.
Josh Downs is an absolute dog. So it's just one
of those things of like, Okay, we have the pieces around,
it's a very crowded room for Warren to be coming into.
But the only difference that he has with all these guys,
all the other pass catchers, is his versatility, your ability
to be you know, disguising of where he could be

(32:13):
at and be creative of how you want to utilize them.
He could throw the ball, catch the ball, run the ball,
whatever the case may be. But more so looking at
who is going to be the quarterback? If you tell
me Anthony Richardson is going to be the starting quarterback,
I'm a little hands off. If it's Daniel Jones, I
might be like, maybe, okay, but I will pay the
tight end options. Like I'm just not quite sure that

(32:34):
I trust the decision making that the Colts have had
these last couple of seasons, Like it's one of those things,
like it looks like a great landing spot, but for fantasy,
I'm just like, I don't know, it just feels a
little weird for me.

Speaker 1 (32:48):
So maybe I'm maybe I'm maybe you need missle gymnastics
on this floyo?

Speaker 2 (32:51):
Could it work?

Speaker 1 (32:52):
Could it work with Anthony Richardson? Just because he's not
very accurate? So why not give him some shorten intermediate
throws to work with it?

Speaker 2 (33:00):
Side in right, and not only give him short intermediate throws,
have him throw to the like people like to say, oh,
he can't hit the side of a barn. Let him
throw to a player that is the size of a bar,
like that's what he If you cannot hit Tyler Warren
across the middle, you don't deserve to be playing in
the NFL, like simply put. And then if it's Daniel Jones,

(33:22):
he loves quick, short throws to the middle, of the field.
Wandel Robinson made a living off of catching hill quick
passes from Daniel Jones. So I agree with you. I
think a lot of people are not going to like
this landing spot because of the quarterbacks. But to me, Warren,
his size and his skill set, I think he's almost

(33:45):
QB proof, Like, as long as you could put the
ball in his vicinity, he will catch it and he
will turn it into probably a long game. And you
could tell me now if you think I'm crazy. I
think there is a chance year one that Tyler Warren
comes in and leads this team in targets, like more
than Pittman, more than Down, more than all of them.

Speaker 1 (34:06):
Hmm, I see, I'm yeah, that's spicy. I'm not I'm
not willing to go there, but I here's the thing.
I can imagine a I can imagine a strand of
the multiverse where maybe that comes to pass.

Speaker 2 (34:19):
You know, we need Anthony Richardson Warren playing catch tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (34:24):
No, here's the thing about Tyler Warren. And if you
watched any Penn State football this past year, you knew
they didn't really have wide receivers. I mean, they had
guys who played the position, but none of them were
really true threats, and you knew most of the time,
and especially in gotta have it situations, you knew that
ball was going to go to Tyler Warren. And he
made a lot of ridiculous catches and big situations for

(34:47):
the Nitney Lions all year long last year. So I
think he's no stranger to getting targets, to making tough catches,
to being a security blanket for a quarterback. And I
think we could see that a lot his first year
in Indianapolis.

Speaker 2 (35:00):
Maybe it's a crazy take, but if I'm taking a
chance on any of these guy Colts pass catchers, for me,
it's gonna be Warren. Because I say it a lot
like the bar for tight end success is so much
lower than wide receivers.

Speaker 1 (35:12):
That's very as well. Yeah yeah, yeah, Heywood says thought
Warren was going to the Jets. I couldn't imagine. Yeah.
I just felt like seven was really early for for
Tyler Warren. Maybe if the Jets were able to trade down,
I think that would have been more more likely.

Speaker 3 (35:31):
Justin fields, man, I mean, that's that's the most important
part of it, you know. So I kind of figured
that was the way they were going to go.

Speaker 1 (35:37):
They didn't take a tackle armand membut at number seven,
so that probably is more It makes more sense.

Speaker 2 (35:44):
Thought, if you're the Bears, right and you're sitting there
at ten, why didn't you trade down.

Speaker 1 (35:49):
Like you probably could have moved a few spots back
that was going to help and still got Loveland. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (35:55):
I didn't think of that until right now, but like, yeah.

Speaker 1 (35:58):
I mean, and who says that, who says they didn't try?
Maybe they're just no offers that that they really liked
at that point. I'm not really sure. All right, here's
the here's gonna be the interesting conversation because when the
when Roger Goodell announced that the Buccaneers were taking a
Mecca Abuka, our tex chain kind of had a little

(36:20):
bit of a moment. It was as very much a wait,
what huh, what's happening here? Because it did. I think
it caught us all by surprise, right, because you look
at that offense and they got Mike Evans and they
just you know, they just resigned Chris Godwin and they've
got Jayleen McMillan, who we all really like. So the

(36:41):
fact that they went out and drafted Abuca, it just
was immediately a head scratcher. But Lakwan, you touched on
it at the start of this show that when you
sort of dig into it, maybe it's not all bad, right,
Like there are reasons when you start to sort of
strip away the play that maybe this pick is not

(37:02):
as crazy as it originally seemed.

Speaker 4 (37:04):
Yeah, this probably.

Speaker 3 (37:05):
Won't be a pick that you know, makes fantasy impact
in year one. Like they're looking for the future. They
locked in Baker, so Baker has you know, compimary weapons
for the next couple of years because Mike Evans is
gonna ride off into sunset pretty soon. So they're gonna
need weapons around Baker to keep this, you know, afloat man.
They still got to compete in the South. Like, I
honestly look at this as like we just got to

(37:25):
be patient. We just have to wait for him to
get his opportunity, like we might see flashes this season,
who knows, you know what I mean. So I'm looking
at it like it's unfortunate you won't be able to
take him off the draft board, you know, in those
mid rounds, you know, this summer. But I guess you
could take a dart throw in those bestball leagues you know,
maybe there's another injury or Chris Godin, Mike Evans. These
guys are up there and they have an injury history,

(37:46):
so he might find a way to find opportunity to
get on the field this season and be usable. So
it's one of those things that you just wish he
went to a location where he can get the volume
from day one and then have all those type of
flashes and develop. But it's more so of like just wait,
just wait and see, you know, just be patient.

Speaker 1 (38:04):
I think that's the thing, Floria. When we look at
these guys in the first round, we're always expecting that
they're going to walk into situations where they're going to
be fantasy relevant or at least have the opportunity to
be fantasy relevant right away. This feels more like a
keeper league, dynasty league situation, just because even if even
if we see Abuka get on the field, it just

(38:27):
feels like there's too much competition for him to really
be impactful in year one.

Speaker 2 (38:32):
Yeah, the only way that I think he becomes fantasy
relevant is if something like last year happens where one
of the top guys go down, like cause that's what
opened it up for Jalen McMillan, because we were excited
about Jayleen McMillan coming into the year, and before Godwin
got hurt, he was averaging fifteen yards per game. Bit
it was then Godwin gets hurt and all of a sudden,

(38:53):
he's a wide receiver three that we're talking about starting
most weeks. So this especially kills both of their values
because now McMillan and Abukba are gonna be competing for
that wide receiver three spot and those touches behind Godwin
and Evans. But I think Lakwan hit the nail on
the head here, Like I think the Bucks are looking
long term and they're like, we have Baker paid. And

(39:16):
this is something a lot of teams do. They draft
a year or two before they have a need. So
now you have a guy here who could get that chemistry.
And when his time comes, either when Mike Evans retires
or god forbid, Chris Godwin isn't the same player this
year coming off of another pretty severe injuries something like that,
or he takes time to get air, whatever the case
may be, you now have your long term insurance plan

(39:38):
in place. But I agree, a name that's much more
appealing in Dynasty for Redraft, I think he's purely like
a late.

Speaker 1 (39:45):
Round dart throw. Yeah, I think so too. I mean
I like the long term prognosis for America Abuka. I
just in twenty twenty five, I think it's gonna be
really hard to get any true consistent fantasy production from him.
So that's at number nineteen. A few picks later, at

(40:06):
number twenty two, the Los Angeles Chargers go with a
running back. This is a team. I don't know how
many more ways they have to say it. Maybe they
can buy a billboard off the four h five. We
want to run the ball like that is a thing
that they at all costs, right, I mean, they hire
John Harbaugh, he brings in Greg Roman, they draft Joe

(40:29):
Alt they were trucking running backs over from Baltimore. Right,
They bring in JK. Dobbins and Gus Edwards. They drafted
Kamani Vidal. Now they go and sign Najee Harris in
free agency. By the way, I know, right, you have
like you have one of the best seasons of your career.
And then they go get Najie Harris. And then they

(40:49):
draft Omarion Hampton, who by many accounts was the number
two running back in this class behind Ashton Jentt.

Speaker 2 (41:01):
One.

Speaker 1 (41:02):
I guess one for me poor one out for Kamani
medal because he was a guy that I thought had
some some sleeper value last year that didn't really work out,
and now there's another guy that's probably going to be
ahead of him, uh in the pecking order there in
Los Angeles.

Speaker 2 (41:20):
One.

Speaker 1 (41:20):
I guess, Floria, how are you looking at Hampton knowing
what that backfield is going to be? You know what,
mid round, late round? Where would you take a shot
at him?

Speaker 2 (41:33):
I think mid round. I'm expecting him to go in
that like low end RB two range, maybe like he
slides to the high end rby three. But I I
might be the wrong person to ask because I like Hampton,
I don't love him, and everyone else had him as
like their consensus RB two. I didn't. I had him
at three.

Speaker 1 (41:52):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (41:52):
There was a running back who didn't get drafted today, Henderson,
who I personally liked more. But when I thought Hampton,
specialty was like his best calling card is this dude
was built to handle like three hundred plus touches and
get all the volume. But that's what Naji Harris was
also put on this planet to do right. And I

(42:12):
know Hampton is faster than Naji Harris, but I kind
of thought of him like a little bit similar, Like
he's good for chunk plays. I don't think he's gonna
be breaking out these long touchdown runs. And other people
seem to disagree, but I just when I watched him,
I saw him getting chased down at times, and I
didn't really love that. But I don't think Naji Harris

(42:34):
just goes away either. And I think it's very possible
that they could split passing down work, or it could
be nause seeing that, or goal Lie could go to him.
So I know some people were really celebrating this, like
the Chargers want to run the ton and they're going
to but I wanted to all go to one guy,

(42:54):
or the bulk of it to go to one guy.
And this feels like a committee written all over it.

Speaker 1 (43:00):
So feels like for me. Lakwan, another North Carolina running
back that people had high hopes for that went to
a situation where he had to share now was Javonte Williams,
Like Meloy, yeah right, he went, melgo stop doing that.

Speaker 4 (43:17):
Stop.

Speaker 1 (43:18):
We cannot let Adam Rank win on that way. Right,
he's not Melgo. We're not doing that, dude, Melgo.

Speaker 2 (43:25):
I haven't said that name in three years now.

Speaker 1 (43:27):
I had honestly forgotten about Melgo until just this very moment.
But it does feel a little bit like that. Though Lakwan,
where it's a guy coming out of North Carolina had
a lot of high people were very excited about him.
He goes to a place that already has an established
running back, and yeah, he probably will get some opportunity,
but it's very much going to be at least a

(43:48):
two headed monster, maybe a three headed monster if for
some reason Greg Roman decides he's cool with Hassan Haskins
or something. I don't know.

Speaker 3 (43:58):
The way I look at this is that they made
this pick for the future. Obviously, you have a workhorse. Workhorse,
DNA is all over him. But when you look at Nagy,
he's been running in oversized wet jeans.

Speaker 4 (44:09):
He is not that.

Speaker 2 (44:10):
Pass or efficient.

Speaker 3 (44:12):
I've been trying to tell you guys like this guy
has been underwhelming efficiency wise, like three point nine yards
per carriers since his time in Pittsburgh. They're looking at
Hampton like, Okay, we're gonna double down on the run.
We need somebody that's gonna be efficient, and JK. Dobbins
was that guy. He was efficient, but he didn't have
that breakaway speed. He was getting chased down a lot.

(44:32):
Sounds a lot like Hampton, but what he adds to
the plate is efficiency. He's going to be able to
get you the first downs, to convert, get you and
scoring opportunities, red zone, etc.

Speaker 1 (44:42):
Et cetera.

Speaker 3 (44:43):
Naji's still gonna get ran down to the ground because
he's on a one year contract, so they're already looking
at his past work. They're looking at it like, oh, man,
I love Nagy, but I don't know about Naji. I
don't know if he's gonna be the guy for us.
So this pick, I absolutely love it. And for fantasy
I am drafting him at as like an RB three,
RB four.

Speaker 4 (45:02):
He's making my.

Speaker 3 (45:03):
Roster because I could see the change happening mid season,
and then when we get to the playoff season, we're
gonna be looking at Hampton like, Hey, what's up, bro,
I'm glad I drafted you in August because he is
going to be chasing guys to the playoffs. I'm telling
you now, man, I'm calling it now.

Speaker 1 (45:19):
I'm sorry I was just in my head, I'm just
imagining Najie Harris running in junko jeans. I'm just like,
I'm just like I was, just like you said, oversized
wet jeans. And then my mind just sort of wandered
after that a little bit. Here's the other part of
this equation though, right, they do still have Justin Herbert at.

Speaker 2 (45:40):
Quarterback, and Lad McConkie and.

Speaker 1 (45:42):
Ladd McConkie, and they brought back Mike Williams the yes,
but Mike Williams nonetheless, and Quentin Johnston still walks the
earth for whatever that's worth. I just don't know what
to do with this offense, Like it just feels like
a heap and help and of me, it's kind of

(46:05):
what it feels like.

Speaker 4 (46:05):
It's only day one that you know they might add
some more guys.

Speaker 2 (46:09):
They're another running back, all fun and games.

Speaker 1 (46:16):
When quin Shawn Jackson said shows up in Los Angeles.

Speaker 2 (46:20):
Bring back JK Like there's the full running back system.

Speaker 3 (46:25):
They're gonna convert those first downs on the ground somehow, some.

Speaker 1 (46:28):
Kind of way. All right, I gotta go more picks,
at least that are fantasy relevant. Matthew Golden goes to
the Green Bay Packers hate So you know, I was.
I was watching the NFL network coverage of it, and
and Mark Murphy comes out and makes the whole big
thing like for the first time since two thousand and two,
and everybody's like.

Speaker 2 (46:47):
We're drafting a wide receiver.

Speaker 8 (46:50):
I was just like, no, yeah, here, no, like no,
like you know, it's just it's like I would say,
it's like collecting Pokemon, but it's like collecting a whole
bunch of.

Speaker 1 (47:04):
Mid level Pokemon, right, like right, like you're just getting
a whole bunch of just like knids, And like, you know,
Matthew Golden, Matthew Golden would be really good in a
situation where he's not expected to be the alpha, right
And I don't know, maybe this is this is Matt
Lafleur's whole thing about, Like I don't want to have

(47:24):
a number one receiver. It's talking about it makes me
sick to my stomach. Bro, you need a number one
wide receiver. You need that guy that other defenses have
to pay attention to, that guy that defensive coordinators get
a little bit nervous when they have to face it. Now,
you just got a whole bunch of you know, like
our pale hypom Kloni producer High Kalani just refers to

(47:44):
with his oatmeal. It's it's it's fine, it's good enough
when you go out to breakfast, when you got to
breakfast with your friends and family, you're like, mmm, let
me get some of that oatmeal, Like you just don't
do that, Like that's I'm still. I'm done. I'm I'm
with packers wide receivers. I'm not. I don't want to
wade through them. I don't want to sift through them.
I don't want to choose. I don't want to like three,

(48:08):
I don't want to figure out, like, oh is this
the this the Jayden red Week? Is this Christian? Why
is it Romeo? I don't, I don't. I'm done. Somebody
else to have that.

Speaker 2 (48:17):
Headache, man wi but like done, Like I like Jayden Reid,
I like Matthew Golden. But if I have to take
any of them as more than a wide receiver four,
I am just not interested because of it. I might
not even want him in that range, you know, because
of everything you just said, Marcus and the thing with

(48:40):
Golden right, like he's very versatile, which is good for
him and for real life, But it's just going to
make it a nightmare for fantasy because I think that
the Packers are viewing their wide receiver room like chess
pieces and we can move them all over and and that, Like, look,
it's cool for it's fun to for you're a Packers fan.
It sucks for fantasy.

Speaker 1 (48:59):
Yeah, it's this. It just sucks.

Speaker 3 (49:01):
Honasty folks gotta be pulling their hair out when with
all these Packer wide receivers, Like what do you do?

Speaker 4 (49:06):
Like what are you selling for?

Speaker 3 (49:07):
Or like I don't see myself buying a Packers I
don't see me drafting a Packer in any format this
season because the exact reason is Mark and said, I'm
gonna have a headache to know which week it is.
Is it gonna be Romeo, Dobbs, Jayden Reed. I don't
like those headaches. I want to be stress free on Sunday,
watch my rams collect the dub and watch my fantasy
rosters start and sit and forget. And when I don't

(49:28):
need a Packers wide receiver stressing me out every single week.

Speaker 4 (49:32):
I'm really getting hot about this, man. I hate the
Well here's.

Speaker 1 (49:35):
The other part about this too, is that you know
a lot of times we look at that and you're like, oh,
well they're good. They're not even better in best ball
because like, I don't even think the ceiling is that
high on any one guy right, like points right, Like
I guess, I don't know. Maybe maybe you you'll get
like the one Christian Watson blow up week or something.
But to your point, look what it is. It's like
it's like fifteen to seventeen points, Like I think that's

(49:58):
the ceiling on these guys every single week. It's it's
just not exciting like at all for fantasy.

Speaker 2 (50:04):
And the other part is like it's not like one
of those rooms like the chiefs or the bills where
they spread it out. But you're like, all right, but
the quarterback is gonna eat, Like I'm not even excited
for Jordan.

Speaker 1 (50:13):
Love No, no, no, Like what is like a bland mile.
It's like it's it's like it's I don't know, some
kind of bland. I don't know. My cheese is well
enough to make a Wisconsin.

Speaker 4 (50:26):
Cheese unseasoned chicken. There you go, all right, let's moisture.

Speaker 1 (50:35):
Uh So the last one here, maybe the head scratchingest one.
I mean, I know, I know, Lakwan, you said that
the Abuka one was the one that confused you the most.
Jackson Dart. Jackson Dart in part because it was he's
the number two quarterback off the board, but also because

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the Giants traded into the first round. They gave up
assets to move up and get Jackson Dart in a
situation where like, I don't know, I don't know if
they were worried that the Browns were maybe gonna jump,
but if the Browns jump back up, like, I don't
think it was gonna be for Dart. The Giants had

(51:20):
the number two pick in the second round, with both
Sanders and Dart still on the board. I don't understand
why this happened. I don't think Jackson Dart is going
to play very much this year. No, Like I don't
think he beats out Russell Wilson or Jameis Winston for

(51:40):
any significant playing time. It's him and Tommy DeVito battling
for the QB three job in New York. Tommy Florida'll
make it make sense.

Speaker 2 (51:53):
Well, I it's not what I would have done, so
I don't get it. But putting some clues together, I
was listening to NFL radio today actually, and they were
saying that apparently the Sanders interview with Brian Dable did
not go particularly well, and that the Giants just really

(52:14):
liked when they met with Jackson darr And then we
heard reports that they met with him earlier this week,
and then I know they there was another report that
like they were trying for the last couple of days
to get a trade in place to be able to
jump back in the first round. All great, if he
was the best quarterback on the board, which look they

(52:34):
clearly think he was. We all thought it was Sanders,
and I think most of the NFL probably thinks it's Sanders.
Like if I'm the Giants, I'm sitting there calling every
team that's up, Like, once Sanders goes, I want to
jump and take your pick, right because once he goes,
then I think you really have to worry about Dart
going and not making it to round two. But while

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both of them were on the board, I would have
treated it like a fantasy draft, you know, like there's
two qbs that I I feel good about. When one goes,
that's what I'm gonna jump in and get the other.
And right now it's looking like the Browns might have
played this right because they could get Sanders in the
second round, and I am surprised no one jumped up
to take him in round one to get that fiftyear option.

(53:15):
But yeah, I agree with you, Marcus. It's gonna be
Russell Wilson most of the year, maybe we get Dart
at the end of the year. He's purely a dynasty pick,
and uh, yeah, it would have been a fun QB room.
And I think there would be a lot more pressure
to start Sanders than Dart if they went that direct.

Speaker 1 (53:32):
Absolutely, yeah, I mean I do think that's why if
I'm the Giants, don't I don't take Sanders because you are,
I think pressured a little bit more because he is
more ready to go right now. And especially when you
signed at this point two veteran kind of journeyman quarterbacks
that are essentially placeholders for whatever you're gonna do in

(53:53):
the future, I think it's harder to hold off Shador Sanders.
You know, It's it's harder to make your QB three
when you're number one and two are Russell Wilson and
Jameis Winston at this point in their careers. So having
Jackson Dart gives you a little more runway. But I
also think you could have gotten Jackson Dart at pick

(54:15):
thirty four. Yeah, you know, you really could have just waited,
like you could have just waited.

Speaker 3 (54:21):
Like with this move, they are just setting up the
next coach to be able to develop Jackson Dart.

Speaker 4 (54:27):
So that's cool.

Speaker 3 (54:28):
Shout out to them for setting up the next coach
in GM to do all this because this is it,
man Like, this does not look like this is on
the course to be a successful Giants offense. I'm sorry,
I don't care who they draft on day two, day three.
Like it is what it is, Jackson Dart, you are
a New York Giant see in twenty twenty six. Whoever
the quarterback coaches, whoever the GM head coach developed this

(54:49):
guy as a player, as a complete quarterback, because I
honestly do believe he has some tools, he has some
traits that he could be a starting quarterback in this league.
There's just need there just needs to be the right
coach to develop him. I wanted him to come to
LA with Sean McVay to learn from Matthew Stafford and
even your guy Jimmy g that op.

Speaker 4 (55:09):
But anyway, I just don't. Yeah, yeah, you're a guy
ex San Francisco.

Speaker 1 (55:14):
Me and James Richard Garoppolo are not friends. That's like,
you know, I wish him well, like I have no
ill will toward him. I'm you know, I I don't
necessarily want him quarterbacking my favorite football team anymore. Uh
but but me and James are not friends.

Speaker 3 (55:32):
Goes down at any point and I have to watch
Jimmy g play football for that.

Speaker 1 (55:36):
I mean, you could watch you could watch Stetson Bennett
play football.

Speaker 2 (55:41):
Brian Dabile developed Josh Allen. All he has to do
is do that again. The way that people throw that
out annoys me so much, Like like it's if it's
that easy, everyone would do it, you know.

Speaker 1 (55:56):
All Right, So let's take a look again at the
first round, the guys, the fantasy relevant guys that win
the first round Florida. I will start with you, who
is your who's your favorite pick in this round? Who's
your least favorite pick in this round?

Speaker 2 (56:09):
I'll start with the least favorite. It's a Beck, maybe
it's Golden, I don't know. It's one of those two
wide receivers for my least favorite pick. The two my
favorite was Travis Hunter because that's my guy, and uh,
I think he's an elite wide receiver. I know a
lot of people do as well, but I think, uh,
some people were pushing him to be a corner and

(56:31):
I really want him to be a wide receiver. And
then gent like he's the obvious one oh one in
rookie drafts. He's gonna be a first round pick. He
was the biggest Fantasy winner of anyone today, but we
knew he would be coming in.

Speaker 1 (56:43):
Yeah, for sure, favorite, least favorite, Lacon.

Speaker 3 (56:46):
My favorites A Mari and Hampton. To the Chargers, you
already know what they're gonna do. They're gonna run the rock.
So I'm excited to be taking him off the draft
board in those mid to lay rounds and folks are
gonna forget about him, you know. And Naji's an ADP
obviously falls down as well because in besketball leagues before
the draft, he was a steal. But you know, you
kind of had to figure that they were going to
bring it in a running back, but at least favored

(57:06):
has to be Matthew Golden. I just cannot stand a pick.

Speaker 4 (57:10):
I hate it.

Speaker 3 (57:11):
It just doesn't make sense. For fantasy, and we're not
gonna be talking about him much on Sundays.

Speaker 1 (57:15):
Yeah, I think it's consensus. Golden is I think our
least favorite pick in this one. It just I don't
get it. I mean I get it for the Packers'
point of view, but for fantasy, it does absolutely nothing
for any of us, So that one is sort of out.
I think for here from KOTJ for twelve, I like
Tea Matt going to the Panthers with Bryce Big New
or new big target. They'll be playing from behind nice

(57:37):
spot for fantasy. I think it'll be fine. I do
think it's more of a long play than it is
a short term play, and so i'd say this for me,
if we're talking sort of long term plays, my favorite
is Abuka in Tampas. I do think there's some long
term value there. Maybe not this year, but I think
down the road. For right now, it's Johnt. I think

(58:00):
Ashton john T is the guy that that comes in
gets the huge workload there. Pete Carroll, you know, is
gonna want to run the football. Chip Kelly the offensive coordinator,
you know, I don't know how he is as a
head coach. I don't think he's particularly great. But I
think as an offensive coordinator, I think he's very creative.
I think he's very good, and I'll find creative ways
to run the football. So I do like what John
c has to offer potentially as a guy right on

(58:22):
the rock in twenty twenty five.

Speaker 2 (58:23):
Has carl are gonna come together and be like, so
you think four hundred and fifty touches is doable.

Speaker 1 (58:28):
At all times? You're okay with that? You're good with that? Yeah, sure, sure,
look at him be like more exactly earlier in the week,
we had the chance to talk to Panthers well now,
second year wide receiver Xavier Lee get get his thoughts
on his rookie year, his rookie journey, and just you know,

(58:51):
sort of talk to him about some things. A caveat
to this, we talked to him on Wednesday before the
Carolina Panthers spent a first round pick on Ceterroll McMillan,
So there will be no talk of that because we
didn't know about it at the time, but a pretty
good conversation as well. Let you take a listen to that.
Right now, I have a special guest with us today.

(59:12):
It is Carolina Panthers wide receiver Xavier League get Xavier,
appreciate you hanging out with us. Man. How are you today?

Speaker 7 (59:19):
I'm good, I'm good. I appreciate y'all having me on.

Speaker 1 (59:22):
Yeah. So you had your you just went through your
rookie season there in Carolina. Tell us a little bit
about what that experience was like. What were some of
the things that stood out to you in that first year?

Speaker 6 (59:31):
Oh, and I say, I think the season it was okay.
It was a little bit of a roller coaster. It
could have been better, it could have been worse, but
I mean I think overall it was it was a
pretty good season. I think it's going to be better
this upcoming year. I don't cameralize on the things that
I hate negative space in last year and turn them

(59:54):
into some bead man.

Speaker 7 (59:55):
That's all I'm trying to do.

Speaker 2 (59:57):
And speaking of year two, what are do you have
any goals for yourself or what are your expectations for
your second year in the NFL?

Speaker 7 (01:00:06):
Oh Man, only goal I really have. It just makes
this up coming you're better than elast year.

Speaker 1 (01:00:13):
For you. I mean everybody talks about that adjustment going
from the college game to the NFL. For you, what
was the biggest change stepping up to that next level.

Speaker 6 (01:00:21):
I'll just say, man, the NFL is more detailed than
than playing in college. I wouldn't say the speed of
the game was in a different or the competition was
in a different I think is more so actually knowing
your assignment and being able to be the best player
at doing what you're doing.

Speaker 2 (01:00:40):
And you you have the privilege of playing with a
good young, up and coming quarterback in Bryce Young, And
it seemed to me as an outsider just watching the
games that he was just getting better and better as
the year went on. So as his top receiver. Did
you notice any change in him in the locker room
and anything like that? They got you guys kind of

(01:01:01):
cooking as the year went on.

Speaker 6 (01:01:03):
Oh man, I think I think after after we made
that change and when he when he was able to
come back in and he was on fire. Man, I say,
at the start, I don't think it was bad then neither.
I mean, you know, the coaches made they adjustments, but

(01:01:23):
I think from the start he was he was still
doing good at how I see it. But I think
just by him still being young, all we want to
do is just grow together.

Speaker 1 (01:01:35):
You have also the benefit of playing alongside Adam Feeling,
who's been in this league for a long time. And
we had a chance to talk to him a couple
of weeks ago on this show. What was it like
playing alongside him? How much of a help was he
in terms of getting adjusted to the NFL?

Speaker 7 (01:01:51):
Oh Man, just.

Speaker 6 (01:01:51):
You know, he being in the league a long time,
So him seeing a couple of the things that I
was doing to him being able to make adjustments to
help me out hate everything all thenothers he was giving
me was just things to help better my gun.

Speaker 7 (01:02:05):
Oh Man.

Speaker 6 (01:02:06):
I think as long as I still got him in
the room, I'm not my game is going Olav.

Speaker 2 (01:02:14):
And we we had Adam on the show a couple
of weeks ago, and one thing he spoke about was
having an offensive minded head coach and that it kind
of allows you to play in the same system yearly
and stuff. So I know you've only played one year
in the NFL, but did you enjoy playing in an
offensive friendly system like Dave Canalis's last season?

Speaker 7 (01:02:33):
Oh yeah, for sure. For sure.

Speaker 6 (01:02:36):
I might think he was trying to run the ball,
but he wasn't too scared to put it in their eason.

Speaker 1 (01:02:45):
You know. So the draft obviously is coming up this week.
It starts on Thursday night. You were a first round pick,
So I what was that draft process, like, I mean
going through like the combine in the workouts and stuff.
What was that? What was that whole thing like for
you on.

Speaker 6 (01:02:58):
My color from where I come from and being able
to make it into the NFL and be a first
round pick. That's a very big thing because I'm mainly
like the first one to be able to make it
into the NFL from where I'm from. So many everybody
was just excited, and I was. I wasn't trying to
get too excited. I was trying to be even killed.

(01:03:19):
On the days I knew I was going to get drafted,
I just didn't know when. So I was just waiting
on my oble to to see who was gonna.

Speaker 2 (01:03:26):
Cap And so you knew the range that that that
you were going to get drafted in, But did you
have any idea that it would be Carolina? Were there
any other teams that you thought that you might be
going to. Did the Panthers talk to you more than
other teams?

Speaker 7 (01:03:41):
Like?

Speaker 2 (01:03:41):
What was that like for you?

Speaker 1 (01:03:43):
Oh? Man?

Speaker 6 (01:03:43):
I went on like fifteen sixteen Top thirty visits. Man,
every time I visit talked like they was interested in
So I just I just knew I was going to
fall somewhere.

Speaker 1 (01:03:58):
Is it kind of like dating? I mean it's it
sounds like it's like almost like speed dating, right, Like
everybody's trying to get to know each other. You know,
everybody's saying the right things to kind of like, you know,
make everybody interested in everything. Just it feels like kind
of going on a series of weird football dates more
than anything.

Speaker 7 (01:04:13):
Yeah, you can put it in there. You can say
like they, oh favorite reason that I went on.

Speaker 6 (01:04:18):
Man, I enjoyed it, being able to get to get
learn from like a couple of the coaches of what
they thought about me, being able to really like get
to know them as William.

Speaker 2 (01:04:32):
And so you went in the first round last year,
but were you starting to get a little uh like
antsy as because the first round takes hours, so like
as it's going on, or you like, I just want
to get picked already, And I know the Bills were
sitting there at thirty two before they traded that pick
to the Panthers. Did did you think that's where you
might end up? Or did you have an idea that

(01:04:53):
Carolina was going to be the place?

Speaker 7 (01:04:55):
And I was just sitting by the phone waiting on
the cow right. It didn't matter to me who was
going to pick me. I just wanted to be Pete. I.

Speaker 1 (01:05:06):
So we asked Adam Feeling who was the best basketball
player in the in the Panthers wide receiver room. He
he didn't even hesitate. He said it was him automatically.
I'm gonna give you a chance to either, you know,
confirm or deny whether or not he is the best
basketball player in the wide receiver room.

Speaker 6 (01:05:24):
I can't ear down today because we didn't We didn't
really go get a chance to like this house season.

Speaker 7 (01:05:32):
But I'm gonna say me I could do a lookle
bit everything, mane.

Speaker 2 (01:05:38):
What So Adam was very He was like, yeah, I'm
the best basketball player, but I'm not the best dunker
in that wide receiver My money was on you for best.
Is that is that fair to say?

Speaker 7 (01:05:52):
Oh, yeah, I can do anything, y'all. I want to see.

Speaker 2 (01:05:56):
What's your favorite with me?

Speaker 6 (01:06:00):
I can do it allvert however, you will see I.

Speaker 1 (01:06:04):
I I mean, we I almost floor. We have to
like because we we when we talked to two NFL players.
It's a question we always ask them. I want to
get together like either an NFL three on three tournament
or a slam dunk contest. I think we gotta I
don't know who we need to talk to. We gotta
kind of see if we can make that happen.

Speaker 6 (01:06:20):
If y'all make it happen, just make sure y'all give
me a cow beata for it would.

Speaker 2 (01:06:27):
Be your biggest competition in a dunk contest.

Speaker 7 (01:06:31):
I ain't gonna lot of y'all, ma'am. Come he okay,
and he's seriously ain't.

Speaker 1 (01:06:43):
I mean, it'd be fun to watch, for sure. For sure. Uh.
One of the things I know you you were introducing.
We talked about this before the interview too. You introduced
some of your teammates, some of the reporters in Carolina.
Uh to raccoon or some of the other things that
you know that that you hunt out there? What what
is it's hunt? What's hunting season right now in South Carolina?
There's something specific you're hunting for at the moment.

Speaker 7 (01:07:04):
No, no, no, I'm not doing any hunt right now.

Speaker 6 (01:07:07):
I know a couple of guys on the team they're
doing a lot of what they was doing a lot
of turkey hunting. Oh but I mean, you know you
can hunt hogs all your set. Let's lung me into.

Speaker 2 (01:07:18):
And uh so I'm gonna add, like, food wise, how
would you rank these raccoon, squirrel, rabbit.

Speaker 7 (01:07:28):
I'll go raccoon. You have the same way?

Speaker 2 (01:07:30):
You just.

Speaker 1 (01:07:34):
What? What?

Speaker 2 (01:07:35):
What does raccoon taste like?

Speaker 6 (01:07:38):
All three of them? All they both all three of
them have their own taste. You know a lot of
they still taste like cheek. And they don't taste that cheek.

Speaker 7 (01:07:49):
No.

Speaker 1 (01:07:50):
I mean I've I've had rabbit for sure. I can
tell you that it doesn't taste like chicken. I mean,
what do you have a preferred way to cook any
of those things? Or just you grill them? I mean,
do you how do you cook it?

Speaker 7 (01:08:00):
You can do it either way. Man.

Speaker 6 (01:08:01):
You can put it in the pressure cooker, let the
meat fall out the bone. You're grill, you can fry
however you want to do it. I'd more so like
to put it in the pressure cooker, let the meat
fall off the bone so we can trap it up.

Speaker 7 (01:08:13):
Make it look like a little hey, make it a
little less and walter key.

Speaker 1 (01:08:18):
All right, all right?

Speaker 2 (01:08:19):
What uh?

Speaker 1 (01:08:20):
What?

Speaker 2 (01:08:20):
What is your favorite Carolina food? We asked the Adam
this and he said it was the wings in the area.

Speaker 7 (01:08:28):
So you're saying like the Carolinas as a whole.

Speaker 1 (01:08:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:08:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:08:34):
When I say the soul food down this way, we
got a lot of soul food spots down this What
that's pretty good?

Speaker 1 (01:08:43):
Yeah, I would think so I've been to Charlotte at
least I can speak for Charlotte, uh that the soul
food is amazing down that way. For you, like in
the offseason, what what do you do to stay busy?
What what does is your league get do for for
recreation when he's not playing football?

Speaker 7 (01:08:58):
Oh? Well, you know, I'll be and the horses.

Speaker 6 (01:09:01):
There's been a lot of videos churning around me riding
the horses. I'll be hunting. That's all all I do.
I ain't taking no trips. A lot of folks don't
know of skin a why so I ain't taking much
is going around the wide on the beaches and all that.

Speaker 2 (01:09:20):
And I know you said you think key On Coleman
could give you some competition in a dunk contest. You
guys kind of got swapped picks for one another. In
the draft last year. Do you ever give him a
hard time about that? Oh?

Speaker 6 (01:09:33):
No, man, we both we both were We wanted it
to be well, we dreamed of bees.

Speaker 7 (01:09:39):
I ain't married a nobody, but.

Speaker 1 (01:09:43):
A couple of your former teammates, Uh, t J. Sanders,
Nick and Worrie in the draft. Let's talk about Nick first.
I mean for people who maybe don't know what could
they expect if if em and moor lands on their
favorite NFL team.

Speaker 6 (01:09:56):
Man, they go, whatever team it is, they gonna get
a he worked hold on miney. He fancy explosive. He
gonna do just whatever the team need him to do.
A very good player.

Speaker 2 (01:10:11):
And then what about t J. Sanders?

Speaker 7 (01:10:13):
And I think he just signed your way man. TJ.

Speaker 6 (01:10:16):
His size, he got a motor. He got a motor. Man,
I'm talking about a big motor. He can do anything
as well. I just see them moving folks like it
ain't nothing.

Speaker 1 (01:10:29):
So I gotta asked. I mean year one, after you know,
having gone through the league, having played you know the schedule,
who was who were some of the toughest guys you
had to to run up against in that first year?

Speaker 6 (01:10:41):
Oh and it was a cold for guys, man three
to five from Tampa. He was pretty solid. Uh, certain,
he was pretty good. I'll say I'll say them too.

Speaker 1 (01:10:55):
All right.

Speaker 2 (01:10:55):
I mean Patrick's certain defensive player of the year. You
got you got yours against him? Know that that that
must feel pretty good?

Speaker 7 (01:11:01):
Oh yeah, man?

Speaker 6 (01:11:02):
And then you know I was going to get in
my opinion, I say the best of the base every
day and Princes J. C.

Speaker 7 (01:11:08):
Holme m hm, yeah. So he was getting me prepared
for the NFL.

Speaker 1 (01:11:14):
And what would your advice be. There's a whole bunch
of guys gonna get drafted over the next few days. Now,
having been through one year in the league, what is
your advice to some of the incoming rookies?

Speaker 7 (01:11:24):
Am?

Speaker 6 (01:11:25):
I say, just be an open ear man, just soaky in,
just be a spun soak in every information they older
guys trying to give, because it's gonna be some things
that you think you might know and be able to overcook.

Speaker 7 (01:11:38):
But it's a little different in the league. Man, talk
to everybody's face and everything like that. So I say,
just be open ears to everything, be able to learn.

Speaker 2 (01:11:49):
From, know to get And I know you had some
fun with reporters in the middle of the season, about
the like not having a whole bunch of vegetables and
stuff like that.

Speaker 1 (01:11:59):
Before.

Speaker 2 (01:12:00):
For the start of last season, our third co host Lakwan,
we introduced him to a strawberry for the first time
in his life, so we were all curious, are you
a fan of strawberries?

Speaker 7 (01:12:11):
Yeah, he's putting some shit on it. Yeah, put a
little bit of strawberry. Yeah, that's that's the way to gut.

Speaker 1 (01:12:20):
That's fantastic. He'll be glad to hear that. Hey, man, Xavier, man,
we appreciate you hanging out with us. Enjoy what's left
of the off season. I know you guys are right
now in the middle of workouts, so it's a you know,
kind of a break, a break from the break, I
guess if you will. But we appreciate you hanging out
with this man and best of luck coming up this year.

Speaker 7 (01:12:37):
I appreciate Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:12:39):
I shout out to Xavier, like, yeah, we appreciate him
stopping by hanging out with us. A lot of fun,
good conversation, and Lakwan he uh, he's already on the
strawberry tip. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:12:50):
I was just I was just dying.

Speaker 2 (01:12:53):
Man.

Speaker 3 (01:12:54):
His accent is just so strong, man, and you just
know that, like when you hear it, it's like you're
trying to understand.

Speaker 4 (01:13:00):
I didn't even know he said water. He said water
in that one take.

Speaker 1 (01:13:04):
Yeah, he said he doesn't. He doesn't mess with water.

Speaker 3 (01:13:06):
No him talk, but I can listen to him all
day long.

Speaker 1 (01:13:10):
Doesn't mess with water. Looking forward to what he has
in year two after a pretty good rookie season and
just watching this whole team grow. Now a new teammate
in the wide receiver room with Tenoro McMillan getting drafted
by the Panthers at number eight, So obviously night one
in the books. We got two more days of the draft.
Rounds two and three are gonna be on Friday, and

(01:13:34):
Marcel asking the question that I think a lot of
people are asking, are the Browns really gonna get Sanders tomorrow?
They have the first pick in the second round. Fellas,
I would be shocked if they do not take Shador
Sanders to start round two.

Speaker 3 (01:13:50):
Absolutely, you have to, and he just got Joe Flacco,
Kenny Pickett, the Jersey Legends. But you need somebody to
come in there that needs to give this city some
type of hope. You know that we have a chance
to go out there and win some games. I don't
think you're going out there winning many games with the
Jersey folks out there.

Speaker 1 (01:14:07):
Man.

Speaker 2 (01:14:08):
Yeah, just like day one, the draft starts at the
second pick.

Speaker 1 (01:14:11):
There you go. I think, I know, I agree with
you too, but I think we're gonna have a lot
to talk about on Friday as a ton of a
ton of guys that I think will make a fantasy
impact in year one will come off the board around I.

Speaker 2 (01:14:25):
Tweeted out a whole bunch of my guys coming into
draft Day one. One of them, Travis Hunter.

Speaker 1 (01:14:30):
Got drafted.

Speaker 2 (01:14:30):
They're all still available.

Speaker 1 (01:14:32):
They're all still available. Log going to happen, I think
tomorrow for sure. So we'll be back with you next
week on Tuesday with another episode of the NFL Fantasy
Football Podcast, where we will break down the remainder of
the NFL drafts, all the important players, all the things
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(01:14:54):
so also, guys want to put together another mock draft
real soon because now that rookies will have homes to
change a lot of rankings, a lot of ADP's as well,
so I'll have to do another mock draft real soon
to kind of get things going. But hey, it's been fun.
I hope you all had a lot of fun out there.
We certainly did. Thanks to Zavia Lagette for us stopping
by and hanging out with us. Thanks to Gavin Kensel

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for helping us get this thing up and going. We
certainly appreciate all of his help as well. Thanks to
all of you in the chat for watching, for participating.
We appreciate you hanging out with us leantime. That is it.
We are done. We appreciate you hanging out with the
NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. They happy, safe and healthy, do
good and live well. Enjoy the rest of the weekend, everybody,
and we will talk to you again on Tuesday. See it.

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