Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:02):
Yeah, everybody, It's Thursday, August twenty eighth, twenty twenty five.
Welcome to the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast, where our takeo
meter is running low. It's being your Man. MG Mark
is graduated by Michael Florio and mcwan Jones. It's Friday Junior.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Yes, we are here, Friday Junior.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
It's Friday Junior, and I am I'm true, like I'm
running out of takes, like we need real football.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Yeah. I got to ask the for Insiders. They were
like what, and I was like, I don't like it.
For the Today's show, I was like, I could do
Travon again, but everyone has heard me talk about him forever,
so like it gets tough.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Yeah, I'm at the point. I mean, Fantasy Live We've
been on for like two weeks, and I'm like, I can't.
I can't keep telling people about like Elik Iomanor and
Jamison Williams and and Tyler Warren, Like you guys, you
guys know the stick by Now, that's it. That's it.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
I stopped saying, Believer. It's been nixt tape season only
when I've been asked to, like Yesterday's show, but I
haven't been on Twitter. Streets or the Fantasy street saying
much about R. J. Harvey and Bo Nicks.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Will you ever give up Trevor mid Lawrence.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
No, he needs to prove me wrong.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
What does he have to do this year to lose
that nickname?
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Forty five hundred yards about thirty thirty five touchdowns? He
needs dak Or Joe Burrow numbers to remove the mid
To be honest, because there's much hype he's gotten to
getting into this league, John Elway Andrew Luck we have
yet to see it.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
So, like, let's say he finish his QB, he needs
to blow his career.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Trevor mid Lawrence career high. I knows twenty five touchdown passes.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Yes, if he finishes like QB twelve, is that good enough? No,
because he's done that before.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
But like he needs to be what he has paid,
which is a top five quarterback.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
What if he outscores Matthew Stafford never, you know, it's
too early in the show to be stirring the pop.
My god, I don't know if he's gonna outscore Bright
Brock Party.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
That's a wild disrespectful to even put those names next
to each other. Wow, it's so easy you.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
Gotta be like there's like one button, it just goes
just right there.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Uh. You know, because we are running low on takes,
we figured we'd make this the bold prediction slash hot
take episode. Uh so we got one of each. Each
have a bull prediction, we each have a hot take. Yeah,
we'll kind of dig around.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
It next time after this show, the next time we
talk to the listeners on this show, there will be
week one Week one.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Yes, yes, In fact, let you know, now, Monday is
a holiday, so no Monday show will be back with
you video shows on Wednesday and Friday. So at that
point we will be previewing week one games Crazy, So
you can start setting RJ Harvey all all that stuff.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
I'm not talking about r J Harvey the last one.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
So yeah, so we're gonna get into that in just
a little bit. But figure we do a little bit
of hype trainer smoke screen. There are some headline ish
type things, but not true headlines, but some interesting things,
I think, so we can sort of kick around a
little bit. Mentioned Amari Cooper going back to the Raiders.
He says he still has some juice left. The last
time we saw him, things weren't so great, didn't do
all that well in Buffalo. I mean, so Florio you
(03:13):
as a Buffalo Bills fan having seen him hype Trader
smoke screen on Amari Cooper having juice.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
Left for real life, I'll say hype train for fantasy,
I'm gonna say smoke screen like. I still think he
can be someone who helps the Raiders, like UH could contribute,
could be one of their UH in their wide receiver rotation, right,
but I don't think he is. The days of Amari
Cooper being like a mustard option in fantasy are gone.
(03:39):
And and I've not only a Bills fan. I'm been
an Amari Cooper fan for a really long time. But
last year when he came with the Bills, I know
people were saying he wasn't fully healthy, but he was
struggling just to see the feel consistently like Mac Collins
was playing over him, which is telling the yeah, bare
(04:00):
I went through his step page and like in the
next gen stats era, pretty much every metric was either
a low or second lowest of that time. So like
he's getting up there in age, I feel like he's
he's going like that AJ Green, Julio Jones, Pat you know,
like they'll become a contributor for a couple of years,
and then they'll go to like Tennessee, and then it'll
be over.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
Yeah. I mean that is sort of where wide receivers
go down Tennessee. I mean, just swiled the fall off, right,
because twenty twenty three in Cleveland he had twelve hundred yards,
you know, seventy two catches, was still a huge target guy,
and then twenty twenty four it just wasn't happening. Then
he gets sent to Buffalo and he just kind of
(04:39):
fell off five hundred and forty seven yards. I know,
does he still have juice left for you? Ok?
Speaker 2 (04:45):
No, the juice is bad. I mean Cleveland drained it dry.
I mean obviously the drop off after that. But like
I have no interest in fantasy with him, Like I
won't even acknowledge him in my takes. I'm gonna be
talking about Jacoby Myers if he's still in a Raiders jersey,
and we'll be talking about Jack Besh. I'm gonna be
talking about obviously Brock Bauers in that offense. But Mary
Cooper's there to sell jerseys, man, I.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
Mean, you forgot one Thornton.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
No, I didn't forget one because him and Mary Cooper
are gonna be battling. They get on the field each
other like they played the same role.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
No am I wrong, No, no, no, But I think Thornton's
got the juice. Man, he's excited they got the juice.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
But he won't be on my fantasy rosters. I mean,
I'm not him a little bit. A little bit. I
like a little bit of Besh because I feel like
there's more versatility with him. He's one of the most
physical prospects coming out of this college group. So I think,
like Besh making the noise he's made in preseason and camp,
it's for a reason because like he can play, And
I think that's why they're okay moving on from Jacoby.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Yeah. I think the moving out from Jacoby because Jacoby
Myers is like I want to trailers are like, nah.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
It's just a trader. Requesting trades has become a negotiation tactical.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
Yeah, it is, And I don't I really don't know
how much leverage Jacoby Myers has.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
He's been a very reliable wide receiver for a bad team.
So it's like it plays the line of like Terry
like in his yea Terry.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
Terry like helped them win, like and it's like kind
of the face of that team.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
But Jacobe's good though, Like he has the numbers to
back and he's a for sure catcher.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
But he's a slot guy.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
He could play out wide as well, Like I wouldn't
exclusively put him the slot, like I will put him
as a guy that you could be versatile with, but
he could be your one for a bad team, because
we've seen it in his entire career.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
He could be your top target. I don't know if
like you're building and he's building around.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
It, like the top target because brock Bauer still watching.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
Yeah, yeah, and then Ashton Gents is gonna get three
hundred and something touches. That's the thing with the Raiders.
I think it's gonna be one of those offenses where
like we like these other side pieces, but it's gonna
be very funneled through a couple.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
Of guys absolutely, which is kind of nice for our
purposes and that makes it easy to know.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Does Gino become fantasy?
Speaker 1 (06:58):
I think Geno is a streamer.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Yes, he'll have weeks like I feel like we're overlooking
him kind of like how Sam Darnold because like, these
guys are going outside the top twenty quarterbacks and I
think they can actually do something.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Gino had the one big year, like they wrote me
off iron right back, though everything since then has been
kind of meh, it's been kind of mid It's.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Been chaotic over there in Seattle.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
Man.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
I mean, I'm saying, I you know, to see it.
But you know, with DK Tyler Lockett, you would think
in JSN, I think last year they blew it up
for a reason, you know, Like I think Gino's coming
into this with Pete Carroll reuniting as the guy when
he had you wrote me off season, you know.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Yeah, I mean I did think it was, you know, interesting,
because it just didn't seem like him and Pete got
along near the end there during the the Pete's time there.
So I was a little bit surprised to bring in
that they brought him into Las Vegas.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
But you know, Gino is one of those guys that
I know is going to finish higher than where I
rank him. But I'm gonna be taking upside shots on
like J. J. McCarthy over heame on Bryce Young over him,
because I think those guys ceiling is higher.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
Yeah, I think that thing with you know, like we
sort of know where the ceiling is. You know, the
floor's not terrible, but the ceiling's not much higher sort
of thing.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
Yeah, but but there will definitely be weeks where like
stream Genosmith this well.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Speaking of Seattle quarterbacks, the Seahawks say they plan to
build a package of plays for Jalen Milrow. I see
La Kwan chuckling.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
What do we do?
Speaker 1 (08:22):
I mean, like you were you actually bring it up
earlier this summer that like Seahawks fans were like, why
aren't we starting Milrow? Right? Like I think we all
sort of were like, nah, man, like you're not gonna
do that, so obviously I'm gonna I'm gonna put words
in your mouth. You're saying this is a smoke screen.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Huh, smoke screen. I don't know, because like what is
he gonna do? Like he's gonna be putting certain packages
in the red zone toush push, Like why you just
paid Sam Darnold like one hundred million dollars, Like this
doesn't need to happen now. Like this feels like kind
of like Lamar Jackson when we're saying he's going to
be in certain packages or something like that. Like if
you want him to start, let him start. But like
(08:58):
this just seems silly and like it shows no fantasy
relevance obviously, but like I would hate to see Sam
Donald come off the field in the red zone just
because Dalen Membro wants to running in. You know, like
what are we doing?
Speaker 3 (09:08):
Well, I think it's gonna be like the Mark Andrews
version of the Ravens Push Push, where like they have
a special package just for those plays. And I think
that's going to be Milroe, like we saw it in
the preseason and they were successful with it. I don't
think this hurts Sam Donald as much as I think
it potentially hurts the running backs because if the goal
on looks are going to Milroe, that that's gonna be annoying.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
Yeah, because I don't I don't think Seattle ever plan
to run QB sneaks at the goal line with Sam Donald.
Like I don't think that's just the thing they want
to do with him. I mean, like I say, like,
I think they really are going to build a package
of plays for Jalen mill Rock.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Right, just let him cook.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
It's like Taysom Hill, like these teams love to take
these gadget players. I think Milroe has a lot of
upside if he ever gets to start, but that's not
gonna happen this year. It probably takes two injuries for him.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
To be Like you're looking at your next justin fields
over there, Florida.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
I mean, I think he can run in these kind
of Anthony Richardson vibes, right, like that is what project.
He's the project, right, And so it really depends on
how the Seahawks want to handle it, you know, like
do they want to let him develop? And obviously, look
they're gonna start Sam Donald, right, so they're gonna give
Milroe time to develop. They're just gonna throw him in there,
watch him flounder and be like sorry, kid, that's it,
(10:19):
Like that's a wrap.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
Well, speaking a Richardson, I bet you the Colts have
packages for him in there. Like I think with the
Toush Push becoming what it is, these more and more
teams are going to have special like like the Ravens
use Mark Andrews, you know, like they're going teams are
going to have players who are just like you're a
Toush Push guy.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
There's a joke there that I'm just gonna let go, which,
by the way, moving on, I mean, by the way,
it is funny that it's taken teams this long to
be like, hey, maybe we should get in on there. Yeah,
like you.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
Know, they were all trying it with their quarterbacks at first,
and it's like bringing a guy that's Jalen Hurts his size.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
I mean, you know famously he what squats six hundred
pounds or whatever it is, right Like, all right, man,
that's great, Like Jared Goff's not the guy you want
to do, you know what I'm saying, Like, find somebody else.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Now, he got ranked fifteen in the top one. No,
that's not getting to that bad because that's insane. Like
he got ranked at fifteenth.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
Oh the Kwan's and his rams right.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Now, I'm just saying he got ranked fifteenth.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
We acknowledge the Cooper Cup rams bubblehead here.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
That's that's that's not even supposed to be there, like
a legend everything.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
But we weren't.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
We weren't trying to trigger you today. It just seems
like everything keeps coming up. You know, we can move on.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
You brought up the golf thing.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Do you agree at fifteen though?
Speaker 3 (11:36):
That's crazy better than Stafford. That's all I know.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Since we're talking about see us Seattle Seahawks quarterbacks past
and present. I had this on the rundown yesterday and
the other news happened and we bumped it. But Darius
Slayton says, Russell Wilson is quote disgustingly consistent on and
off the field filthy. While we sort of like chuckled
at the word choice, Slayton used, I get where he's
(12:08):
coming from with this, But Hype Trader smoke screen on
Russell Wilson Florio being Fantasy relevant this year.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
Smoke Screen, I think he's going to like I think
within a month it's Jackson Dart, and I like, I
have changed my answer in the last two three weeks
on that, because like two weeks ago, when Fantasy Live
came back, they one of the questions was like, who
scores the most Fantasy points of Giants quarterbacks? And I
was like Russ because I think their defense is good
enough where if Russ plays competent, the Giants will be
(12:38):
in games and like they're coaching for their job. And
then I got to watch Jackson Dart just tear it
up in preseason and the hype has grown so much
in New York and they have such a hard schedule
early on that if they they played the Commander's Week one,
if they.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Lose that, they could easily start zering four.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
Yeah, and at that point Jackson Dart is your starter.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
Yeah. I was trying to figure out, i mean from
them when they drafted him. I'm like, where could he
slot in? And I'm like, they're not gonna start in
the first four weeks because you don't want him to
go out there and get his body and soul crushed
that boy confidence. I had it originally as kind of
like mid season, but I do think he's gonna start
some games this year.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
I just think with him lighting up like the fans have,
if he struggled in preseason, I would be like, it's
gonna be rush for a lot of the year. But
like the fans in New York want Jackson.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
If this was anywhere else other than New York or
even La then I'm like, nah, it's ross he's starting.
But with New York putting their voice to it, like
the rumbles of Jack and Dart is going to be
so loud and it's gonna be in that.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
I'm gonna call it now. Jackson Dart October fifth in
New Orleans. That's when he debuts. Time stamp it because
they get the Commander's Cowboys Chiefs Chargers. I don't know
if you want to maybe the.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
Chargers, maybe the Chargers, but I don't think you want to.
I don't think you want to mess with it.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
That Chargers secondary is insane.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Could we get a Jackson Dart Tyler shuck matchup in
New Orleans? Potentially?
Speaker 3 (14:05):
Honestly that that's what it's gonna be.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
Tyler let the Rattlesnake cook.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
Yeah, I'll have to catch that one, like you know,
on a replay or something like that.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
We'll watch the highlights on YouTube.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
Album. I've taken Jackson Dart as my QB three and
a decent amount of super flexes. Wow, I'm low key excited.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Like he can run run well, you can take Daniel
Jones what he can run.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
But I don't understand the sudden Daniel Jones.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
Love he ran well one year's name.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
No, maybe it might be that.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
I don't know. It just needs to come out of nowhere,
like all of a sudden, Like the last couple of weeks,
you've been really big on Daniel Johan.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
Look, he's been my QB three and a lot of
my superflexes. But he just said because he can run Jones,
that's hey.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
If you want to go with Daniel, Daniel Dome like.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
You're You're good to go, Daniel.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
Elik Neighbors looked happier with Jackson Dart in the preseason
than he ever has with any of the Giants quarterbacks
last year. Like he was miserable from the moment. He
ended up being a hen smile, yeah, jumping up and
down like he's enjoying.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
Himself by the way I've done my You know, we
should abolished the draft thing here on this show before.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
Part of it is because like a guy like Malik
Neighbors has to get drafted by the Giants and look
at the quarterback situation and then sit there and smile
and pretend to be like, I'm so happy to be here,
I'm so glad to be part of the Like, come on, man, like.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
Especially when you know you're a star, when you.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
Know you can ball out and you look at the
quarterback situation, you know you're not happy with it, but
you guys sit there and pretend like Hey man, this
is great. This is gonna be like, why why are
we putting dudes through this?
Speaker 2 (15:49):
Well, he did an interview with them. He should have
bombed it. That's what I would have did. I would
have sabotage.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
And if I remember correctly, a story came out that
like he's lower on the Giants board because he didn't
seem excited during his interview, like he might be trying.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
Oh, you don't want to be here here man.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
All right, uh, there you go. Those are our high
trains or smoke screens. Take a break, come back, get
into our bold predictions and our hot takes next on
the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. So we pretty much run
out of things to say about guys at this point.
(16:31):
We've talked a lot of names and a lot of teams.
We are just sort of, like the rest of you,
waiting for actual football to start so we can talk
about that sort of stuff. But figured it was always
good to do some bold predictions, things that some things
that we think could happen, but maybe, you know, aren't
the general school of thought. And then also some hot takes,
(16:52):
just things that like maybe there's a kernel of analysis
in there, but more just like hey man, this is
wild and we just think it'd be chaotic for it
to happen sort of thing. So let's start based, grounded,
somewhat in reality with our bold predictions and flourya you
pointed out that that apparently me and Lakwan last night
drank some hater aid when we were hey, hey, hey,
(17:14):
filling out this the form here. So, Lakwan, what is
your bold prediction for the season.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
I got Breshall, And I will say this before I
say this, I'm not hyping up Braylen Allen, but I
think Breshall will finish outside the top fifteen running backs.
And like it shouldn't sound crazy because when we look
at last year, I get that you know he was
the guy, but that is not the situation this year.
Like they've spoken way too much praise of Brydon Allen.
(17:39):
It looks like he's going to be taking a lot
of that early down work and it looks like he
can be a pass catcher out of that backfield as well.
There's so much opportunity for Braylen Allen to be the guy.
So I think we're a little too bullish in drafting Breesehall.
And like the late second round that I seen him
go in recent drafts, and folks are really hyping him
up to be the guy that we thought he was
(18:00):
his freshman year, I mean, the rookie year. So I
think him finishing outside the top fifteen shouldn't be a
bold take or anything crazy, but it is for some
folks out there in the fancy streets.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
I was sort of lower on Breeze Hall, so I'll
admit that. You know, I've been peer pressured by Adam
Rank a little bit. He's he's kind of gotten me
in on it, right with the whole Tanner Instrum thing
instrom saying like we want Breeze Hall to be our
Jamier Gibbs, which I guess naturally would make brayln Allen
David Montgomery.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
If he ain't Gibbs, if we're going to that.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
But I think he can be. I mean, I think
he's that explosive.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
He can put the uniform on.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
Yeah, like I he ain't Gibbs though.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
But I think he can be that explosive. But we
know he can catch the football, so I see it there,
So I don't. I don't think what you say is
completely nuts, right, but I will say that you know
Adam Rank has sort of pulled me along into thinking
that maybe there's something there with Breeze Hall.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
I have Haul right outside the top fifteen. So I
don't think you're crazy about any stretch. But I do
think at least in the drafts that I've been in,
it's gone too far in the other direction. Like in
a super flex league, I got him in the seventh
round the.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
Other day, that's too fu Like, oh that's too ful wow.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
Yeah, Like, and even in our Fantasy Live draft yesterday,
he going like the fourth round. I want to say,
sounds like to me, I think that's an appropriate value. Like,
I think we've reached a point because everything you said
is true. But I think it's gonna gotten to the
point now where like it's pushed him down a little
too far. And if he's going outside the top fifteen,
(19:33):
I have no problem to draft. You know, I don't
want to take him when he was going like you said,
in the second or early third, but yeah, but where
he's i've seen him go as of late, I think
it's a fine.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
Like I think Chuba Hubbard will finish better than him.
I think R. J. Harvey, like James Connor, like these
are guys that I feel more comfortable targeting kind of
in the range of where he should be going, Like
he's getting pulled up because everybody thinks that he's going
to be the RB one. Like I think they've been
pretty clear that it's going to be a one too,
at least at the least.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
I do think the Jets finished top five in rushing attempts,
so like that, and I think he's gonna I.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Don't really think is going to be like looked at
as a guy that even have a high like rushing
attempt like I think it would be Braylan Allen, Like
he's a freaking piano coming down the steps. You better
get out of the way.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
He's going to be the MANXI if they're doing it
that way. But Breece Hall is still gonna see a
good amount of volume.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
What two hundred carries is that.
Speaker 3 (20:29):
He's seventy six last year get two.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
Hundred last year?
Speaker 2 (20:34):
Is that Braylan Allen didn't get anything last year, And
if they're hyping him up to be very involved in
this offense, that two hundred comes down.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
I just think the Jets run a lot more than
they did. Like, I think both things can be true.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
See the other part of it is because last year
they also still had to feed the Aaron Rodgers dragon
right like they had to They had him throw almost
six hundred times last year. I don't think they're gonna
ask Justin Fields to throw the ball that you don't
police a half the season. So I mean, I think
that that means their rushing attempts could come up so
you could still see Breeze I think around two hundred uh,
(21:08):
with Alan still getting you know where.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
I really think Breece is gonna surprise in the passing game.
Like I think people are underestimating how involved he's going
to be as a receiver because Justin Fields last year
the highest checkdown rate, and then Tanner Angsten coming from
the Lions, we know they featured the line of the
running backs a ton in the passing game. Plus behind
Garrett Wilson, there's no one, so like I think, naturally
(21:34):
Breeze Hall is going to get a lot of targets.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
Yeah, that's kind of why I've been big on Mason
Taylor and like there's somebody, somebody's gonna somebody, somebody's gotta
chtched the ball besides Garrett Wilson.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
It's not gonna be Josh Reynolds.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
Where Alans are, Yeah, the Lizard King.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
My Jet fan friends are clamoring for Deontay Johnson, and
I actually think it would be a really what put
him at the X? You put Wilson in the slot,
or why.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
The circus comes to New York. I could still play
You could still play it, just obviously he doesn't really
get along well with it.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
If you get cut by the Browns, well.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
They went they went young, they took Tilman. You know,
for your bold prediction for this year, it's slightly less
bold than I had it last year because I'm pretty
sure I had Isaiah p Checka was my guy last
and I had him.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
As a top five run well.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
The first two games he was on pace for sixteen
hundred yards and something like sixty five or seventy cats
like it was. It was insane the usage he saw
fractures of fibula comes back, not in playing weight, obviously.
We know that's an injury that takes a while to
get back to yourself. But he's back to himself. We
saw it in the little bit that he played in
the preseason. He looks like his old self again. He's
getting back up to the old miles per hour that
(22:46):
he used to get. And look, no disrespect to Brishard
Smith Yea or Kareem Hunts or any of those guys.
I think there's still a path for Pacheco to be
a three down back. And if he's a three down
back with Patrick Mahone and the Chiefs and Andy Reid,
I think he finished as an RB one, so I
have him top ten. I don't have him ranked as
the top ten because I think there is some injury
(23:07):
concerned to do with his playing style, but I'm definitely
way higher on him than consensus.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
I also think if the Chiefs really achieve their goal
of trying to be more vertical, that only helps.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
Yeah, exactly right.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
If they can force it so that you you've got
to back up those safeties, you got to back up
those linebackers a little bit, then that does open things
up for Pacheco. And I mean, look, you were on
him last year, and you're right those first couple of games,
because I was sort of skeptical. Now those first two weeks,
I was like, all right, you know, ah uh so,
(23:40):
all right, I appreciate you. You're ready to double down.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
I took DeAndre Swift over him in our Fantasy Live
draft only because I have a lot of Pacheco. But
I immediately was like, oh.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
Yeah, you made the right move, which I know you
guys both have.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
So you're the quote because like I was, you know,
hoping that maybe I was a ways down.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
Do you have Pachecko we could trade.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
I don't have CHECKA. No, that's A's Kimmy check, So
good luck, good luck.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
Prance was mad at me for taking Rashi Rice. I
mean that's like the only chief Kimmy doesn't have.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
I was like, yeah, good luck prying to Kansas City
chief away from Kimmy Checks. Good luck to you with
that one, sir, for sure. Uh my bold prediction again.
I hope all the bad things in the world happened
to you on Sequon Barkley finishes outside the top ten
running backs.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
You know I've been this is spicy.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
Well here's I've been pretty you know, open about how
I feel about right.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
Agree.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
You were first.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
You were the first to point this out before.
Speaker 3 (24:38):
Any I heard anyone else in Fantasy like you were.
You were on it in like February, like Super Bowl
confetti was still falling and you're like, I'm not drafted
him next year.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
The Jersey WASHINGTI and I'm like, not drafting you. Yeah,
I mean, I look, I think you could still be
a low end RB one. But if the the trends hold, right,
I think you're still looking at You're looking at like
twelve hundred rushing yards. I think you know, he gets
(25:10):
a number of targets, but he's not big on receiving yards.
That's not a big part of his game necessarily. He's not.
They don't throw to him as like a guy he's
you know that you're running routes for specifically, right, it's
not They don't use him like a McCaffrey or you know,
Jamier Gibbs. They throw to Saquan as either a screen
or just a dump off to get out of trouble
sort of.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
Last year, by far, the fewest targets and catches he's
ever had in the season he played more than two games.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
Yeah, he's not the only sole player on that offense
that can catch the ball that.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
Is mobile, but he's also when he runs, his eyes
are downfield.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
Yeah, exactly. So I'm you know, I think I think
it's gonna be a good season, but it's gonna be
the kind of season where, you know, in Week six,
we're gonna be having the what's wrong with Saquon Barkley conversations?
Right because he's not going for these ridiculous numbers. I
have to look it up again, because like it was
something like he had the vast majority of like one
(26:10):
hundred and forty yard games last year, twenty six games
last year where a player rushed for one hundred and
forty or more yards, Saquon had seven of them. Wow,
that's that's you know, that's more than a quarter. That's
more than a quarter of them. Like, that's hard to
duplicate year over year.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
So a super soldiers.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
I think it's the kind of thing where had he
not done the two thousand yard thing, we look at
him like, oh, it's pretty good year for Saquon, but
because of what he did last year, we're gonna be
Likequon's broken, like what's wrong?
Speaker 2 (26:40):
You know, and played in the Super Bowl. That's a
lot of game. That's a lot of wear and tear
for somebody to take full context over well over one.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
Hundred more touches than he's ever had in a season. Yeah,
plus their goal line carries last year, UH eighteen for Hurts,
eleven touchdowns, eight for Saquon three touchdowns like that, if
he's not getting those big yardage, you're gonna Like last
year we didn't feel it because he had all those
other huge games. This year, you're gonna feel it if
he's not doing that.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
Not to mention that we had on Fantasy Live Today
about guys who've gone for three hundred and seventy more
touches the following year, the only guy who really came
close to duplicating was Derrick Henry, who had like three
hundred and seventy some odd to is a super soul
he is, he had for a bunch of touches, and
then the next year he finished his RB eight right,
But even that, you know it still a little bit
(27:27):
of a most of these guys are coming in you
RB twenty five, RB twenty eight, something like that. So like,
there's just something to be said for getting that much
work in a season and then asking somebody to do
it again the next year.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
And a lot broke right for Philly last year too.
It's just hard to believe that it'll break that right again.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
Yea, So those are our bold predictions.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
Now I'm really curious for this.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
I'm not sort of spies because it's the hot take time,
and I you and I both looked at the rundown
and Lakwan just wrote Lad McCoy no tape, just Lad
book like everything else is a full sentence about what
we think that you just wrote, Ladd mcconzie. So please,
I am very curious what this is.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
Look, Ladd mcconkeye. I mean, is that a hot take?
What are you expecting?
Speaker 1 (28:12):
What a person's name?
Speaker 2 (28:14):
Well, the hot take here is that I think Ladd
is going to finish closer to wide receiver twenty five
rather than where he's getting drafted at wide receiver eleven.
And here's why you have Keenan Allen. And obviously I've
been preaching the identity of this offense. Nachi's back at practice.
He's tracking balls and catching balls like this is looking
like it's falling into place where they want to run
(28:35):
and living heck out of this ball. So the pass
volume is going to be so further down. And we're
all looking at last season like the hyper focus of
targets on him, because I call those situational targets because
you're one and two after I mean you're two and
three after Ladd was Will Disley and Quintin Johnston. Where's
he at? Is he still on the team because I
(28:55):
think DeAndre Lambert Smith has taken his role, so therefore
they have more AMMO and hargets to spread out now
to where Ladd won't.
Speaker 3 (29:03):
You're thinking a guy that most people didn't hear of
until two weeks ago, is going to prevent Ladd McConkey.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
I think there's more passing, reliable options on that offense
rather than what it was last year.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
It's insanely thin. Once you get past.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
He's had a great gamp. I'm telling you now are.
Speaker 3 (29:22):
A lot of.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
He's better than Well Disney was last year. He he
will be.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
I mean, I like and I like Ronde Gads then
as like a late round dart throw. But I'm not
sitting here being like Ronda Gads is gonna take food
off Lad mcconkey's plate.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
Why isn't he. It's a low pass fining offense. Allen
back then the biggest alpha in the room.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
But you can impact that a little bit.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
I think the impact is he'll play the slot and
it'll push lad out wide bit more. But also he's
thirty three. Were we Yeah, but we're not.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
We're not running like that.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
Ain't old.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
You're sitting here with us, like my back is a
history of missing time.
Speaker 3 (30:08):
Like we're one pulled hamsteng away from it being thinner
than it was last year.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
Bro, he's going to be closer to wide receiver twenty
five rather than where he's being drafted at wide receiver eleven.
Right now, it's insane, It's bonkers.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
Never I mean, here's that You've been fairly consistent on
your lad hate.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
It's not even hate facts come on from I'm willing
to talk in absolutes here. This is the only time
that I will talk in absolutes. He's going to be
closer to wide receiver twenty five.
Speaker 3 (30:38):
From week on. Last year his pace was fifteen hundred
yards and nine touchdown.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
And who was the second target in any of those games?
Speaker 3 (30:45):
I mean Will Disley, Quentin Johnston unreliable?
Speaker 1 (30:49):
I mean Will, It was like a month where we
were like hyping up Quentin Johnston.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
Yeah, he was doing his thing.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
We I mean we have the Royal we is it
like the Fantasy the Fantasy three? You love so much.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
I don't love them.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
They may.
Speaker 3 (31:03):
The other thing, though, is like Ladd wasn't even seeing
like a lot of targets in these games listen, and
he was turning them into huge fantasy days. Like I
think they Chargers went into this offseason being we need
to get lad.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
The ball more. Where he's gone in drafts, and I
know folks probably have drafts coming up this weekend where
he's going in drafts. I'd rather pivot to a Josh Jacobs.
I'd rather pivot to a T Higgins Advante Adams, Like
why not.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
I'm taking over.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
Bro Burrow's gonna throw the ball like seven hundred times.
I mean, like, Bro, you're looking at T Higgins as
probably eleven games. Bruh, that's wild.
Speaker 3 (31:39):
I mean, has he ever played seventeen?
Speaker 2 (31:40):
Look, James kind of brewed does wrong last year? Man
T Higgins could do it. He could do it.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
I love James Connor. T Higgins has never He's played
sixteen games twice, never played seventeen the last two years,
has played twelve.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
If James Connor could do it, T Higgins could do it,
let's go.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
I just said, Laconk He's like, that's my hot take.
Speaker 3 (32:02):
The person, like what the lad disrespect is way too far.
He's so he is so good, like he is he
could win out wide in the slot after the catchdown field,
like there's nothing he can't do on a football field.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
He just put my computer to sleep.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
While wakes up his computer. What's your hot take, Florida.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
I went through a number of them. At first, I
was like, the combo of rash Rice and Marquis Brown
will be top ten. Then I changed that to Roman Dunes,
they will be top ten, and then I saw that
you guys were doing the hater aide, so I was like,
let me go negative. I think this is a spicy take.
I think Brian Thomas Junior is going to be a disappointment,
and the reason why is Travis Hunter.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
I was gonna say Trevor mc lawrence, No.
Speaker 3 (32:43):
I think Travis Hunter. I think Travis Hunter might outproduce
Brian Thomas Junior, but I definitely think their numbers will
be close. And you're getting such a discount on Travis
Hunter compared to BTJ that I think at the end
of the year he is going to be looked at
as the better Like that was the way I should
have went for.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
The Jaguars receivers. Can I say something, go for it.
I think you're right. Yeah, Like I think I haven't
drafted Brian Thomas Juni because it just felt too expensive
all off season long, right when you look at so
much of his production came in the back half of
the season, when you talk about how finn the Chargers
wide receiver room was, right, the Jaguars were decimated with injuries,
(33:27):
and I mean this is like maybe a quirk of
the game, but it still does tweak me a little
bit that most of his production came with Mac Jones Warrence, Right,
So now you throw Travis Hunter in the mix, you're
throwing some more target competition, right, Like I just I
just felt like the asking price was way too much
(33:49):
for Brian Thomas Junior this year.
Speaker 3 (33:50):
And I don't know what their schedule is, but like,
do they play the Broncos this year, because that would
be a good example, Like if they do, they don't,
but okay, oh no, they do, Like that game Courtland
Sutton is going to be all over Brian Thomas Junior.
When they play the Jets. It's gonna be Sauce Gardner
and then you're gonna have Travis Hunter going up against
the second corner or nickel corners because he's gonna be
(34:11):
in the slot a lot, like he's gonna eat those
guys alive.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
I think, Yeah, I just you know, like you know,
I don't know if I'm gonna go as far as
to say that that Hunter will outproduce Brian Thomas, but
I definitely think people are gonna be disappointed with the
return they get, Like where they spin.
Speaker 3 (34:25):
I wouldn't be surprised if they finish like wide receiver
like sixteen and eighteen or something like or like fourteen
and eighteen something.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
Right, And again, like you you've drafted Thomas like a
top eight wide receiver.
Speaker 3 (34:39):
It's just been too steep from me.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
Kind of I'm coming around. I'm coming around just based
on where you can get him, well, where you use
can get him in drafts. I don't know where he's going,
you know, in the week coming up for the rest
of the drafts. But I do feel like he is
the function of that offense, like they will run it
through him, because I do feel like Travis Hunter will
be taking all the field being on defense. And like
me to Travis Hunter, I'm not drafting him at all,
(35:04):
Like never, if you're gonna be playing both sides of
the ball, absolutely lot, I hear you. But if you're
gonna be taking bumps and bruises on defense and then
expecting him to go out there be full ready to
go on offense, nah, this is not a little man's league.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
I just don't. I don't think he's gonna, at least
at the beginning, play as many snaps on defense.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
And I appreciate his endurance, like I appreciate that you know,
he's been running through practice, that all the reports we heard,
like he's a guy has an unlimited motor. But after
a while, man, this is seventeen games.
Speaker 3 (35:34):
Every Hunt made it a good point. College game is
not only faster, it's there's less breaks and there's more
snaps played, and he would play all of them.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
Yeah. So, like I just think I think the Jaguars
is going to be very judicious about when they use
him on defense.
Speaker 3 (35:48):
I think they tell him like be smart, like don't
don't try to lower your shoulder and tackle Derrick Henry.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
Right, business decision, yeah exactly.
Speaker 3 (35:57):
Like play shut down corner and if you do, okay,
if you don't, kind of like what the Jets do
with saus Garner, like.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
Kind of like how his old college coach Dion played
Deono the shut down corner. Deon wouldn't really known as
a tackler, like that really wasn't his thing, but he would.
He would pick one off and go the other way.
And I think, you know, they that's a great guy
for Travis Hunter to learn from.
Speaker 3 (36:18):
Picked him to win both Rookies of the Year this year.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
That's say, that's wild.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
That's your hot take right there.
Speaker 3 (36:22):
I think next year Travis Hunter is going to be
at worst a second round pick.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
All right, I'm all.
Speaker 3 (36:31):
In on him.
Speaker 1 (36:31):
I can't see that. I could see that, all right.
So my hot take, Bryce Young is gonna be a
top ten fantasy quarterback.
Speaker 3 (36:37):
This is spicy.
Speaker 1 (36:39):
I like it. Obviously, they feel confident with their wide
receiver room. If they were willing to trade Adam Thielen
to Minnesota, so they feel confident with you know, McMillan,
Leaguette Cocher, you know, all the guys they got down there.
They feel like they've got something there. We've seen Bryce
Young elevate, we saw him at the end of the season.
(37:01):
We saw him getting out of the pocket and running
a little bit more, you know, like he's not gonna
you know, you're not gonna start getting six seven hundred
yards on the ground from Bryce Young. But if he
can give you enough to be viable, I think that's something.
And I think he's getting more comfortable as a passer again.
Bryce Young has been a study in patience for a
(37:22):
lot of us. Right that after year one, so many
people were willing to write him off and be like,
he's a bust, it's over. The Panthers screwed up. They
should have taken CJ. Stroud. And then after year two,
when Shroud came back to Earth and Bryce Young got better,
everybody's like, what, maybe we should reevaluate this, And maybe
the lesson is, hey, maybe we should have waited a
(37:42):
couple of years to say anything about how this sort
of sort of thing goes. So I think, you know,
it's gonna take some things breaking, right. It's a Panther
defense that's not particularly very good, so they're gonna have
to throw the ball a lot. But man, I do
envision a strain multiverse where Bryce Young is a top
ten fantasy quarterback this year.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
If he's top ten and that means Jalen Coker has
been going crazy all season long, and he's probably gonna.
Speaker 1 (38:08):
Be a huge, huge pickup after week one. I'm telling
you now, I mean could be. I mean, I know
you said you like Chuba Hubbard. I mean maybe it's
him getting out of the backfield too a little bit.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
He's like the not sexy pick like like a lot
of people don't really talk him up much like.
Speaker 3 (38:23):
I don't really find myself taking I don't think.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
You wople believe it's like it's I think there's a
lot of people and I'm kind of one of them.
Is like, all right, that was cool, do it again?
Speaker 3 (38:31):
No, I mean, really is there's more competition behind him?
I would say Nickle Doowell. I mean last year there
was no one though, like because Miles Sanders got hurt
right away and then Jonathan Brooks was never a thing.
It's not even that I don't like Cuba. It's just
that there's other guys I like more like RJ. Harvey,
P Checko, Kenneth Walker, James Connor Swift. I'd rather have
(38:52):
all of those guys.
Speaker 1 (38:53):
Yeah, all right, I ain't mad at it, alight, So
there you go. Those are our bold predictions and hot
takes for twenty twenty five. Take One, More Break, come Back.
We got some Fantasy superlatives, handing out some postseason awards
before the season even starts. It's coming up next on
the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. All right, So figured we'd
(39:19):
end the show before we get into week one officially
with our some of our summer predictions, end of season predictions,
gazing into our murky crystal ball, trying to figure out
what's going to happen. So, first off, Florio, you're Fantasy
Rookie of the Year.
Speaker 3 (39:35):
It differs from my real life rookie of the Year.
Speaker 1 (39:36):
Okay, it's not Travis Hunter.
Speaker 3 (39:38):
It's not Travis Hunter, although he's Look, everyone's gonna be
picking Ash genty for this. It's gonna be Travion Henderson.
Baby wow, surprise. Yeah. I mean I've talked him up
enough this year, but I really think Travion is gonna
give you I know now you're not getting as big
of a discount on him, but I think he's gonna
give you RB one numbers and like you were getting
in like the seventh eighth round at some points this summer,
(39:59):
and Jens, you're paying a first round price for in
a lot of leagues, So I do think their production
will be pretty close. And at that point, give me
the guy that's going a couple rounds later.
Speaker 1 (40:08):
All right, who you got Rookie of the Year?
Speaker 2 (40:10):
Uh Kim Bardon. I think he's gonna be a punch
of people in the mouth man, because like where he's
going in drafts, he's going way later, like where you
got the Bryce Youngs and the Sam Darnolds of the world. Like,
I think he's gonna surprise a lot of folks. And
like just a little bit that we saw in the preseason,
he looks so comfortable, he looks so good, Like he
looked like he was commanding that offense. And Calvin Ridley
man that is gonna be a huge threat on that offense.
(40:33):
And I think, you know, we might get some guys
like Tyler Lockett that might be contributors. And Gunner Helm
is making noise in the tight end room with Chicka Koku,
like the pieces are there for him. So I think
he's probably gonna shock a lot of folks where he's
gonna finish better than a Jarret golf or rock party.
Like many guys that go in that tier of like
the QB like ones like the lowing QB ones. I
(40:54):
think that's where came war could really be if this
Titans offense is going to be surprising a lot of.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
Folks, if it's better than mid. Because he said it
was mid.
Speaker 2 (41:02):
Yeah, that was wild for him to say at a
press conference.
Speaker 1 (41:05):
Man. I appreciate the honest. I appreciate the honesty as
opposed to like, yeah, no, we're really building something great
here and it's like, no, you're not, You're mid, You're mid.
I'm gonna go off menu a little bit and I'm
gonna give you a Mecca Abuka just because I think
the it's unfortunate for the Buccaneers and for the players involved,
(41:26):
but things have sort of broken right for him right
the Jayalen McMillan injury. I know, Chris Godwin's not going
to start the year on the pup list, but you know,
right now, Todd Bowles is like, yeah, he can be
any he can be back anywhere from week two to
week five, right, And that's a that's a wide range.
So in the meantime, that passing game is Mike Evans
(41:47):
and a Mecca Abuka, Like that's pretty much it, So
those guys are gonna get funneled a lot of targets.
Abuka already a really talented guy anyway, who I think
was gonna push to be the third wide receiver. Uh,
you know, I think even you know, Godwin and and
mcmallan were healthy, I think Buka was going to force
his way on the field. Now he's going to get
every opportunity to start. I think he's going to make
(42:09):
an impact from the beginning, and then when Chris Godwin
is back, it's gonna be hard to take him off
the field. You're gonna see a lot of three ride
receivers and I think a Buka is gonna be there
and uh and make an impact. So, you know, maybe
not the conventional choice for fantasy rookie the year, but
that's where I'm going. No, honestly can see that.
Speaker 2 (42:26):
I mean, like him making noise early, I can really
see him finish. Like the path for why receive like
rookie ride receiver in one is not that hard like
et Central McMillan. Yeah, Travis Hunter, if we count it
like it's like why would we not count wide receiver?
He is also a dB man like whatever. But I
do think I can get on board with that because
I've taken him a lot, Like I've reached as high
(42:47):
as like six fifth round in some of these drafts
that have passed again him and I feel good.
Speaker 1 (42:52):
Yeah, I I took him yesterday. I was sad in
the fantasy that was sad. Where did I take? I
think it's gonna be.
Speaker 3 (43:01):
I took Rashid Rice and I was like, yeah. I
was like, I don't know if he'll fall, but maybe,
but it's no chance.
Speaker 1 (43:06):
I took a Buka in the sixth round, which annoyed
Rank enough that he took Cam Skataboo one round later. Wow,
why because he was like, he's like, there's a lot
of He's there's a lot of spike and petty drafting
in this league. U partially one one. He was annoyed
because you didn't take He solely took him.
Speaker 3 (43:24):
At that third pick because just so I couldn't get Yeah.
Speaker 1 (43:27):
So like you didn't take you didn't take Travion at thirteen,
so then why would I do that? So then he
took I almost did not want in the third round
because that's what he said on the show he was
going to do.
Speaker 3 (43:40):
I can tell he was thinking about it though, because
he took the full forty five seconds on that Oh yeah,
So I was like, is he really going to do it?
He was, he was contemplating.
Speaker 1 (43:47):
So I took a Buka in round six, and honestly
I wasn't. I wasn't doing it to spite Rank. I
did it because I thought he was a good pick.
And then yeah, I really wasn't thinking that hard about it.
So I took him in round six. So then Rank,
because he was petty and spiteful, knew that I loved
camp Scataboo, So he took Skataboo at the top of
the seventh round.
Speaker 2 (44:05):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (44:06):
Yeah, yeah, Spike drafting, all right, Spike drafting, So like
that's a peek behind the curtain. In the Fantasy Live.
There's a certain pick drafts, just like a lot.
Speaker 3 (44:14):
Of you, there's certain picks that you know are automatic,
like Lamar Jackson's coming old, Patrick Claybound's.
Speaker 1 (44:19):
Up, Patrick, He's going. Patrick's gonna take Lamar. Kimmy check
is gonna take my homes and pretty much any chief
she can get her in.
Speaker 3 (44:27):
The strongest reaction was when I took with she Rice. Yeah,
and I looked at her team, and I was like,
you have every other chief.
Speaker 1 (44:34):
So yeah, laquad, who is your fantasy bus stuff? Oh?
Speaker 2 (44:38):
I mean all summer we've kind of been like side iron,
like why is Baker Mayfield going in the top seven quarterbacks?
So I think he's gonna be a huge disappointment. Like,
I honestly think he's gonna have a solid season.
Speaker 1 (44:49):
It's not helping up my Mecca Booka.
Speaker 2 (44:52):
But the touchdowns are definitely gonna regress going back down
the earth, and I think that's what carried him a lot,
you know, into the fantasy ranks last season. I think,
you know, him finish in the top five is not
reality of where I could see him because like again
I think bo has that opportunity and Patrick Mahomes has
that opportunity. These are guys that are going after him
in drafts, So it doesn't really make sense. So I
think the fantasy streets are gonna be hurting after this one.
Speaker 1 (45:14):
Though. Yeah, I can I can see that. I mean
he's had he's had a career. I don't say resurrection,
but like he has turned into the guy that the
Browns thought they were getting. Yeah, yeah, you know, but
the Browns browned it up and uh, now Baker's balling
for somebody else.
Speaker 3 (45:35):
People are surprised a lot that I have him at
QB eleven, But Mike, I think he has the same,
like a low end QB one. I think he's safe. Like,
I agree with you. He careered hard, passing yards, passing
touchdowns and rushing yards Like I don't think all of
that's gonna happen again, but I think he'll be very solid,
like week to week, you could play him, but he's
not gonna.
Speaker 1 (45:52):
Be top five. All right, Uh your fantasy bust Floria.
Speaker 2 (45:56):
Travis Kelcey, sorry, kill a try, Wow just now engagement brave.
Speaker 3 (46:01):
Yeah he look look he's like, I'm I was too
distracted by off the field stuff. These are the biggest,
the most famous woman alive. Kudos to you, Kudos to Taylor.
I'm happy for you, guys, but I think it's gonna
take your mind. You gotta probably the most expensive wedding
in the world to plan.
Speaker 1 (46:20):
Like, here's the thing, Travis Kelsey is not going to
be looking at place settings, no, no, no, or invitations. I
had to because you don't have people for that.
Speaker 3 (46:31):
Yeah yeah, yeah, I mean their wedding. They're gonna rent
out like an eye like, look that that's not the act.
But the real reason is I think Travis kelce last
year one, he's thirty five. Two, we've seen two years
of steady decline in a row already. Yes, three. I
think last year one, if you had Travis Kelce, you know,
the end of season numbers look better than than rostering
(46:54):
him did because.
Speaker 2 (46:54):
There was a lot of weeks out of the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (46:57):
Yeah, he was going single digits most weeks. But then
on top of that, you look at what it was
early in the year before all of their receivers and
Pacheco got hurt. He didn't see he saw four three
five targets the first three games. Then it started to
climb because rashe Rice got hurt, Marquis Brown was out,
Pacheco was out. I think it just became kind of
a de facto we have no one else out here.
(47:19):
We have to run through Travis kelcey right now. But also,
like I'm a big believer, the Chiefs saved their guys
for the playoffs. So last year I kept joking like,
all right, it's the playoff time, watch Travis Kelsey's gonna
go off, And he did. Granted against the Texans every
tight end did last year, but then after that he
did nothing, Like he did nothing against the Bills, he
had nineteen yards. This is a guy who killed the
(47:40):
Bills his entire career, and then he did nothing in
the Super Bowl. Like I think Travis Kelcey's best days
are behind him. I think that we're potentially gonna get
another year of a decline. And I say it a
lot declines in football happened steep, so like I wouldn't
be surprised if he gets something like six hundred yards
this year. I know that sounds spicy, but like with
with the other guys all being healthy, I think that's
(48:02):
who the offense runs through now.
Speaker 1 (48:04):
I mean I think with Travis Kelsey last year, I
know he had the whole thing about being an entertainer
and had him distracted. I'm like, I don't since you
were distracted. I just feel like you're getting old. Yeah,
I mean just like right, and it's like that's not
that's not there's no shame in that. It happens to everybody, right,
But I just watched the.
Speaker 3 (48:18):
One year older than me, and I'm like, this dude
is old, like but like.
Speaker 1 (48:22):
You know, he just you could see sort of the
wear and tear. He looked like he was a couple
of steps slower.
Speaker 3 (48:27):
That move he does where he like kind of runs
around after the catch. It looked much different year.
Speaker 1 (48:32):
I mean, it looks like it looks like there's a
Scooby Doo villain in a rubber mask behind him, like
he's waiting to like turn the corner, and like like
there should be a cartoon sound effect, like like that's
what it should be like when he turns around. Yeah,
I just I thought that was the thing with Travis
Kelsey more than you know, going on a world tour
or something like that with his girlfriend on your girl tour. Yeah,
(48:54):
I don't. I don't think that's it. Mine's not quite
as spicy as yours. Oh maybe it is. I think
Kenneth Walker is going to let a lot of people
down this year.
Speaker 3 (49:03):
WHOA that hurts. Wow, I'm in on Kenneth Walker's This guy.
Speaker 1 (49:07):
Woke up with the hater aide, Zach Sharboney man, and
like you got me out here defending a UCLA brewing.
But that's the case right now, Zach Sharboney, that's not
that man. It's less risk more elbow, more elbow. Here's
like a way, what are you doing? Uh? I mean
it just all the chatter out of Seattle is that,
(49:29):
you know, Mike McDonald is kind of getting fed up
with waiting on him to get healthy. He struggles to
get through full seasons. You know, they they started to
feature Sharbony a little bit more as the season went on.
He's looked great in the preseason. You know, I still
think they'll give Walker an opportunity, but I just think
by mid to late season, I think Sharbona may take
(49:50):
over that backfield. It's like I'm looking at the guys
around him right now in ADP, like I'd still take
him over Alvin Kamara because it's you know, it's it's
no Saints all over here. Yeah, I still think about
head of Alva Kamara, but like Tupa Hubbard, James Connor,
Breeze Hall, Treyvon Henderson. You know, I think I want
all that mix for I think I want all those
(50:11):
dudes a head of Kenneth Walker this year.
Speaker 3 (50:13):
I get it. I totally get it and everything like
the concerns, the injuries and maybe this is just me
burying my head in the sand, but I'm like, if
Kenneth Walker plays up to Kenneth Walker's ability, he's he's
gonna be five.
Speaker 2 (50:28):
It's top five season. It gives us fourteen games.
Speaker 1 (50:31):
I mean, everything I keep reading about the Seahawks, everything
I'm reading is just like Zach Charbonay deserves the number
one jobs, is going to take the number one jo
ship them.
Speaker 3 (50:41):
I just think this is the perfect system for what
It's a lot of outside.
Speaker 2 (50:44):
Runs, yes, so like, but he's him when he's healthy.
Speaker 3 (50:47):
I've chased Nneth Walker for years now, you know.
Speaker 1 (50:49):
Plus Sharvonae's gonna catch the ball more than well. Actually
they had about the same number of targets last year,
same number of catches, I think. But I think Sharbon
is a better pass catcher.
Speaker 3 (50:58):
Said, definitely better pass blocker, Definitely a better pass blocker.
Speaker 2 (51:02):
Kennith fucker, I ain't gonna be and Seattle next year.
Speaker 3 (51:04):
So correct contract year. Maybe they just.
Speaker 1 (51:07):
Went looking forward to the looking forward to the Kenneth
Kirene battle in Los Angeles next year.
Speaker 2 (51:11):
Excuse me, how did the Rams get twined into this man?
Speaker 1 (51:16):
Because like it had been twenty minutes since we'd poked
at you. That's what I almost did when we were.
Speaker 3 (51:21):
Doing Busts of the Year, but I was like, let
me say something I actually believe.
Speaker 1 (51:24):
So wow, I would have left, all right. So then
the big question is Florio, who is your twenty twenty
five Fantasy MVP.
Speaker 3 (51:35):
I was really tempted to say Trevion here, but I'm
gonna go to another one of my guys. It's gonna
be the Leak. Neighbors. Melik Neighbors is my pick for
offensive Player of the Year. I think he leads the
league in receiving yards. And when I first said this,
this was like a hot take, like I went on
the insiders and I was like, all right, this could
be so, And then like the more I sat with it,
I was like, no, he's just gonna do it. I think,
like I outside of Jamar Chase, I think if he
(51:57):
should be the favorite to to lead the lead yards
because he the ball is going to be so funneled
through him. We saw that last year. We saw that
when he was healthy in training camp to year, like
every day it was like they can't stop throwing the
Baltimolak Neighbors every play. And I think he is as
talented as like a Jefferson a chase a lamb. So
you give him that sort of volume, I think he's
(52:17):
gonna do really big things with it and more downfield throwing.
If touchdown variants goes in his way, because that is
always something that's hard to predict, but if it, if
he ends up with something like eight to ten touchdowns,
I think he could be the best receiver in Fantasy
this year.
Speaker 1 (52:31):
My analysis of the Giants last year was like, every
time they throw it to not Malik Neighbors, I wonder
why they didn't.
Speaker 3 (52:37):
Throw watching them every time they needed a conversion it
could have been a yard. They were like, we're giving
the Baaltimolak.
Speaker 1 (52:44):
Neighbors and then occasionally one Dale Robinson. Here you go.
That's it all right, some Elak Neighbors has won. Who
do you got to Lakwan Jamior Gibbs.
Speaker 2 (52:53):
I feel like we're gonna be stamping him as mister
one on one next season. Like I feel like now
that we have Monty publicly of like pushing him more
into the sunlight. We have John Morton there that's probably
gonna look at Gibbs like I want you to touch
the ball three hundred and fifty times now, Like I
think this is gonna be the video game number season
that we wanted from him, and this is just gonna
(53:13):
be just put the bed of who mister one on
one is next year?
Speaker 1 (53:17):
All right? I'm thinking similarly, but different guy John Robinson.
Speaker 2 (53:22):
That's gonna be a battle man like. That's gonna be
like the every.
Speaker 1 (53:25):
Year forever intertwine. They are forever gonna be connected to
each other. The Tyler Algier thing has been cute the
last couple of year. Yeah, it's been cute. I think
we can we can pretty much.
Speaker 2 (53:37):
I appreciate his services.
Speaker 1 (53:38):
His his cherries have gone down every year, went from
two ten as a rookie to one eighty six the
year after to one thirty seven last year. And I
think now that they are fully integrated with Robinson and
what he can do in that offense, I think you
see that number fade even more. Wouldn't be surprised if
Algier gets under a hundred carries this year and it's
all Robinson. He's gonna get a ton of targets. We
(53:59):
know that as well. Well. He's gonna be you know,
I think Robinson is going to be for the Falcons.
He'll be what Christian McCaffrey was, you know, at his peak,
you know, sort of that guy that rarely ever comes off.
Speaker 3 (54:13):
That was so long ago.
Speaker 1 (54:15):
Anyway, the guy really ever comes off the field, he's
gonna get a lot of targets. He's gonna be the
focal point of the offense. Uh. And then he's gonna,
you know, make haters like Lakwan question for you.
Speaker 3 (54:24):
Guys, because I might have this decision in my home league.
I have the third pick, and it looks like it
might go Chase Lamb. The first two I'm taking, which
if one of them go the top two, I'm taking
which everyone falls. But if you had the choice in
a half PPR, who are you taking between Chase and
No No, between bijeon and and Gibbs.
Speaker 1 (54:43):
Gibbs half people, I still think I go Bijon, just
because as much as I think the Lions go all
in on Jamior Gibbs, David Montgomery is still going to
get work, Like David Montgomery is gonna get more work
than Tyler Ali.
Speaker 3 (54:59):
There you go, that's yeah, point, That's so, That's the
way I've been leaning. But there is part of me
that keeps being like this might be just the year.
Speaker 2 (55:06):
That might take sixty seven.
Speaker 1 (55:09):
No, I really could. That's certainly in the realm of
out coming. But I just think, I think, when you
look at it, Montgomery gets more work than our year,
So I take Robinson over Gibbs.
Speaker 3 (55:17):
That's the only reason I have him ahead of Gibbs.
Speaker 1 (55:20):
So yeah, all right, there you go. Uh, those are
our superlatives along with our bold predictions and hot takes.
We can start filling up our taco meter for the
regular season because it starts next week. We are not
with you again on Monday because of the holiday, so
enjoy your Labor Day weekend. Everybody back with you with
video shows starting on Wednesday and then on Friday, so
(55:43):
you'll talk to you then in the meantime. That'll do
it for this edition of the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast.
They happy, save and healthy, do good and lived well,
good luck on the moves to Dallas, Susie, the rest
of you thro bye again.