NFL Draft Preview: Wide Receivers

Marcas Grant, Michael F. Florio, and LaQuan Jones start the show with the latest NFL news including Travis Hunter’s enthusiasm for remaining dual-position eligible in the NFL, the Giants tamping down the notion that they still need to draft a QB and Cam Ward all but announcing that he’s going to be drafted first overall by the Titans. (4:08)

Then Grant, Florio, and Jones take a deep dive into the wide receiver prospects in this year’s draft and break down where they’re comfortable drafting them. (21:47).

Then, the guys wrap the show with a look at their favorite sleeper rookie wide receivers who can be expected to make an impact for your fantasy team! (44:05)

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:11):
Hey everybody, It's Thursday, April seventeenth, twenty twenty five. Welcome
to the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast, where we really lettle
concrete the rundown. It's me your man named g Marcus Grant,
joined by Michael Florio and the aforementioned the Kwan Jones. Yeah.
I should really start locking the rundown.

Speaker 2 (00:29):
At least the intro.

Speaker 1 (00:31):
Except yesterday I actually did need you guys's help, So
I appreciate you guys jumping in and helping out with this.
It was all ill cute, all right, man, you didn't.

Speaker 2 (00:40):
Even finished the full intro.

Speaker 1 (00:41):
You got a couple letters there. Gg M you what
that means? It means glory, glory main you baby, Let's go.
Uh yeah, no, we're not doing that anyway. The reason
I needed help yesterday my kid's on spring break, so
we took him to Disneyland yesterday. You know, I am

(01:02):
fortunate that I have a couple of side hustles that
allow me to go there for less than the full
price of admission, because otherwise that place would bankrupt you.
But yeah, so, like you know, we took the kid
to Disneyland. We let him ride some rides. He's like
at the point where now he rides like the big
kid rides and stuff. That's awesome, which is great because
like there's only so many times I can ride. It's
a small world in a day.

Speaker 3 (01:24):
The worst rode in the world.

Speaker 1 (01:27):
It's good on a hot day because it's air conditioned
in there and you can just sit on the boat
and close your eyes for like, you know, eight to
ten minutes. Like that part's kind of nice. But otherwise
that song that's long, Yeah, that song stuck in your head.
But now he writes, you write other stuff. We got
on Big Thunder Mountain, we got on the Matterhorn, we
did space mountains. So like now it's cool, Like I

(01:47):
can go and hang out with him.

Speaker 3 (01:50):
How many doll whips have you had?

Speaker 1 (01:52):
Uh No, he's a cotton candy kid. A lot of
cotton nice, a lot of cotton candy. Anyway, we still
got more draft stuff to talk because we are officially
one week away from the NFL's onboarding process happening on
live television in front of everyone. What it is, it's

(02:15):
the hiring process, which by the way, makes it even
more bizarre that they play the national anthem before the
draft that will never not be weird to me. You
are you are making job offers to people about when
you got a job offer the last time? Did they
play the Star spangled banner? They did not? Right, that
would be weird.

Speaker 3 (02:32):
Stag do that salute or whatever?

Speaker 1 (02:34):
Right? And like all here, by the way, so you
got a meeting with HR, Like that's silly, It's just weird.

Speaker 3 (02:39):
Wow, how margus If anyone knows this, of the three
of us, it would be you. How long before they
get drafted do they meet HR?

Speaker 1 (02:47):
Oh? I would imagine it's probably within like twenty four hours,
right because usually usually when you get drafted, especially like
the first round guys and stuff, like, they immediately put
you on a plane and ship you off to wherever,
you know, whatever team facility there is. And yeah, I
would think that you walk in and you're signing contracts
and taking photo ops like yeah, I'm sure a big

(03:09):
part of it is you, uh, you know, sit down
and you know, get your little HR manual and and
do all your you know, trainings and all that kind
of stuff. You know your nine o's right, Like I'm
I'm sidio. Could you imagine that? Like, you know, Caleb
Williams and Jade Daniels had to sit down and like
watch a video on like you know, workplace behavior.

Speaker 3 (03:33):
Before were going to their first team immediately, like Teamates.

Speaker 1 (03:37):
You gotta watch this right exactly. Yeah. So anyway, that's
neither here nor there. We are going to talk some
wide receivers. We were lucky to talk to Matt Harmon
earlier in the week and get his thoughts on some
of these prospects. You can go check that out in
your podcast feed. But now we're gonna kind of break
down our tiers, give you some of our thoughts about

(04:00):
what we like, what we don't like, the expectations, and
maybe potentially some landing spots as well. But first a
few news headlines to get to one. Speaking of wide receivers,
Travis Hunter said recently that he would rather stop playing
football than to just play one position.

Speaker 3 (04:20):
I love this.

Speaker 1 (04:22):
This is okay in terms of attitude and your presentation,
Like yeah, man, that's awesome, Like that seems great, Like
you're really gung ho about this playing both ways thing, Florio,
Do you buy it though? Right? Like if he gets drafted,
Let's say he goes number two to the Browns and
they're like, you know, they get they get through training

(04:42):
camp what have you, and you know, week three, they're like,
hey man, we just want you to focus on on corner,
right like, you're so good there, we need help in
the secondary. We want you to for Do you really
think Travis Hunter is gonna be like I'm out, I'm done?

Speaker 3 (04:58):
Really no, oh no, he's but he's being extra right here.
But I love it because to me, this shows one
how much he truly like, loves and wants to play
both sides of the ball and everything. And my biggest
fear is exactly what you just said, Marcus, that a
team is going to draft him and be like, it's
much easier for you to be a primary corner and

(05:20):
have packages where you play wide receiver than vice versa,
because he's the best wide receiver in this class in
my opinion, he would be awesome for fantasy in that sake.
But here's what I keep saying, Right Like, when the
Angels was eight years ago now signed Sho hae O Tani,
everyone was like, he has to pick one side or
the other. He cannot bowl, his body will not hold up.

(05:44):
And then look at where we are now, right like,
so just give Travis Hunter the chance, right like, if
you're the Browns or the Giants, the Patriots, whoever takes him,
give him the opportunity in year one to try both
sides of it. Maybe halfway through the year or something
like that, he realizes it's too hard on his body
or anything like that. You can always change it, but

(06:04):
just give the kid a chance like that. That's my attitude.
If I was drafting him, I'd be giving him an
opportunity to see if he could do both before making
him pick one.

Speaker 1 (06:15):
I definitely hear that argument undred percent. Hear that argument,
and I would I would add that if you're gonna
do it, do it now when he's still young, when
it's still early in his overall football journey, right. I mean, ideally,
this is a guy who has a long professional career.
It's gonna be a little bit harder to do that
at twenty seven, eight, twenty nine years old than it

(06:35):
is right now at this So I would say give
him the shot. But I will ask you now, Lakwan,
if he is playing both sides, right, if he is
both a corner and a wide receiver, is he going
to have any true fantasy value? Oooh?

Speaker 4 (06:53):
That is the big number one question. Because honestly, as
a fan of him, in watching him play wide receiver,
you would like him to be on the field as
much as he is on defense. But it's a matter
of where he goes with these teams, Like it's like,
all right, Joe Shanezaing, basically we have a need at corner.
So that's like indicating like, hey, this guy's gonna play defense,
so he's not gonna be involved on the offense that much.

(07:13):
So as a fantasy manager, you're like, what the heck, Like,
I's the best vide receiver in the class to be
playing wide receiver at least sixty percent of the time.
But it's one of those things, man. It Look it's April.
I mean, look when camp stars will start hearing more
rumbles like, hey, he's played this many snaps with this squad,
the second team on defense, but he played Like we're

(07:35):
gonna start hearing all this stuff soon as camp comes around,
to get a clear understanding of what he's projected to do.
But I'm with you, guys, just let him do it
for one season. He has to do it now because
imagine like you up there in twenty six, twenty seven,
where your body is starting to show indications. You're almost thirty, bro,
we're not gonna be talking about this by then because
he's gonna pick one area. So let him have the

(07:56):
year where you think he excels best at. If it's
wide receiver corner year two and three, you can still
flirt with it and kind of play put him in packages.
But after that, I don't see it going past his
rookie contract and him playing both ways, because you're just
gonna shorten his whole NFL career because he's gonna be
playing with some big, grown men, like some men that
are bigger than life, like thank god Aaron Donoy in

(08:16):
the league no more, because boy, imagine him running full
speed at Travis Huner.

Speaker 1 (08:20):
It's gonna be an ugly picture.

Speaker 3 (08:22):
I think it's manageable, though, right cause, like it's not
like he's a running back. I agree with your point, LQ,
and I think the NFL is going to think that way.
But if I draft him, I'm telling him go down early,
like slide, run out of bound, stuff like that to
manage the hits. And on defense, I'm telling my safeties,
if they complete a pass on this kid, get over

(08:44):
there and tact like I don't want this kid having
to tackle in open field repeatedly, over and over again.
So like for fantasy, I'm scared because we don't know
what it's gonna look like yet, we don't know how
it's gonna hold up. To me, he's a clear betteran
best ball kind of option.

Speaker 1 (09:00):
Yeah, but even then, I just I wonder if there's
just a ceiling overall, because like I don't I don't
see him playing a full compliment of snaps on defense
and then also giving you, you know, forty to fifty
snaps as a wide receiver. Either, it's just different, you know.
And and yeah, you can, you can sort of coach

(09:22):
him to hey man, hey safety, I need you to
I need you to give him some support here and
make some tackles. But like, how do you hide him
in the run game, right, like when you're facing the
Ravens twice a year, And and and if he edicts
is for him to not tackle, well, if I'm running
Derrick Henry to his side's a game.

Speaker 3 (09:40):
You know what I do, and I'm like, try and tackle.

Speaker 4 (09:46):
Yeah, business decisions. And I think that's where he becomes
a liability on defense. So he should just be focused
more so as a wide receiver to make the big
impactful plays that he does.

Speaker 1 (09:57):
His college coach was a master business to decisions and
was known. Look, Deon was known for a lot of things.
He was a great cover corner, right he locked down
that side of the field. Deon was not necessarily known
as a great tackler. That was just not part of
his game. Like he figured out how to obviously excel
and be a Hall of Famer without having that part
of his game there. Yeah, So, I mean, hopefully those

(10:20):
are some lessons he imparted to Travis Hunter. I just,
you know, I think everybody's hyped on him because of
what he can do, and we're all very curious to
see what he can do at the next level. But
I just have this feeling that for our own greedy,
selfish fantasy purposes, it's going to be underwhelming, right, which
is the production won't match the talent.

Speaker 3 (10:40):
Because if he played just wide receiver, what's his upside?
I think he has wide receiver one upside.

Speaker 4 (10:46):
I'm not to say where does he go and drags it?
He's just focused on wide receiver. I mean, I have
an idea of maybe the first round, depending on which
team he goes.

Speaker 1 (10:54):
To, Yeah, I mean possibly, but it just you know,
there's that other part of it that's going to really
have a big impact on it. Giant Shuldrow manager Joe
Shane says it is not quoting men to Torri to
draft a quarterback after they went out and signed both
Russell Wilson and Jamis Winston, but also Joe Shane, they're
working out shudor standers for the next couple of days,

(11:16):
so Travis Hunter's former college teammate could land in New York.
Uh lakwan. Do we think they take a swing at Shadur,
Do they still draft a quarterback or do they ride
into this year with Russ and Jamis and then planned
for twenty twenty six.

Speaker 4 (11:35):
No, I don't see them taking Shador because you would
be on the pressure seat to start him over Russell
Wilson that you just paid and Jamis Winston. I mean
you already have your backup plan for Russell if he
starts to get cold, meaning when he gets towards November December,
he falls off, you know.

Speaker 1 (11:52):
Like physically cold, not like as it starts playing badly
in both ways.

Speaker 4 (11:59):
So it's like if I need like if I'm Joe
Shane Brian the ball like this is my I need
it now season, Like I need to win now. I'm
fighting for my life. My job is on the line.
I do not see them going for sure door there.
It's just too much of a risk, too much pressure.
And this kid is bringing in a lot of the
circus and it's New York. The spotlight's already big, Like
it's one of those things that you're just gonna have

(12:20):
that unnecessary noise in the background if you're not starting him,
and if you're starting him and he's buns, then you're
gonna hear it even louder. So it's one of those
things that I think personally, they just skip out on
the quarterback in the first round because there's opportunity for
them to get Milroe. There's opportunity for them to get
Jackson Dart in that second round, Like I rather see

(12:41):
them go that route.

Speaker 2 (12:42):
So they have a blue.

Speaker 4 (12:42):
Chip in the house, like, all right, cool, we'll roll
Russell as much as he can, We'll roll all Winston
if he comes in. It is what it is, and
then the cues will be handed over to Jackson Dart
or Jalen Milroe, whoever they seem to want to get there.

Speaker 1 (12:54):
If you draft, if you are Joe Shane and you
draft Jackson Dart or Jalen Milroe, you will not be
around long enough to see them develop. You just won't.

Speaker 4 (13:04):
It's kind of the plant you You already kind of
messed that up by gay Jameis Winston and Russell Wilson
one hundred percent right.

Speaker 1 (13:12):
They have painted themselves into an absolute corner at this point,
and now they're trying to find whatever life raft they
can to sort of hang on in this front office
with this organization. Right, you gave away Saquan to your
biggest rival, who then goes on to win the Super Bowl.

Speaker 4 (13:29):
You win a pointless game, you could have been at
the two spot.

Speaker 1 (13:31):
You should have at the two spot. You go and
you sign a couple of at this point journeyman quarterbacks. Right,
I mean, Russ is not what he wants. Was Jamis
is entertaining to watch? But if I went off, that's
because I'm not a Giants fan. Right. If I was
a Giants fan, I don't know that I'd have the
same entertainment level watching Jameis Winston sling yolow balls. So

(13:52):
they're really in a tough situation here where you know,
common sense wisdom probably says you draft a courquarterback and
develop them, But they don't have that kind of time,
and the guys they brought in aren't going to help
you win in the division that you're in when you
gotta deal with Philly and you gotta deal with an
improved Washington club like it does feel like they are

(14:14):
headed to lame duck status. And whoever, if they do
draft a quarterback, that guy's gonna be working with a
brand new front office and maybe a new coaching staff
within a year or two.

Speaker 2 (14:24):
Mm hm, Tank for Archie, Tank for Archie.

Speaker 3 (14:27):
I don't know what they're doing here, but to me,
I continue, and I know I'm on the other side
of what a lot of people are saying. I kind
of think they're gonna take either Carter or a Hunter
at three now. But let's say this roster with Carter
or Hunter, what are you gonna win? Six seven games?
Is that enough to save your job and stuff? To me,

(14:48):
I continue to say it.

Speaker 1 (14:49):
I think the.

Speaker 3 (14:49):
Clearest path to saving your jobs is if you believe
in Shad Door Sanders, you draft him, you start him,
and you let him show progress. Because if you win
five six games with Russell Wilson and Jameis Winston, you're gone.
If you win six games with Shador Sanders and he
shows signs of life and enjoys playing in your offense,

(15:10):
you might earn yourself another year plus with that because
you now have this relationship and you're you're showing that, hey,
I can get this kid to where you want him
to be. But I mean with Russ, you're gonna probably
have to make the playoffs to keep your job. So
I get the thinking of going all in on this year,
but I always think moves like that are are counterproductive.

Speaker 1 (15:31):
They were three and fourteen last year. I don't know
that Jamis or Russ makes them a playoff team in
the NFC East, right.

Speaker 4 (15:41):
Miligunt enough either on that offense, it's not even really
like a reality of them going to the playoffs with
their current personnel. Like this draft, they will have to
hit on some of these wide receivers that we're gonna
talk about today and have key contributors that can make
impact day one, because it's like if you mess up
the first round pick, okay, at least you could savage
and kind of get your later picks and get some

(16:03):
guys that can make an impact on offense with Russ
or Winston. It's like, honestly, it's like we're just kind
of saying what it is. It's right there, like this
is their last year in that offense, and whoever quarterback
they draft, they're just gonna be dealing with another coaching
staff redeveloping or erasing everything they learned. Like this is
just setting a quarterback up for failure. So I'd rather
them not draft any quarterback this entire season.

Speaker 1 (16:25):
Yeah, I mean, I'm just looking at it, Philly Washington.
I like, as a playoff teams, you're gonna get a
winner out of the NFC South, probably Tampa. So that's
three playoffs spots right there. I think the Rams win
the NFC West, that's four spots. So you got your NFC,
you got your NFC North winner, you know, and then
the Vikings are still gonna be good. The Packers are

(16:46):
still gonna be like you got the Lions, Packers, and Vikings.
That's seven spots right there. Fit Really it'll be a
couple of teams that we don't see coming, yeah, exactly.
But I don't think the Giants will be want to
know that.

Speaker 3 (17:00):
The Giants won't be which is if your ceiling is
like six wins, if you really like the quarterback, I'm like,
just just take him now. But I don't know.

Speaker 4 (17:10):
Yeah, it's not even and I think it's not even
about Rush or if it's Winston. Like even if they
had Aaron Rodgers, let's say he signed and he was
the guy right there in the driver's seat, I still
will feel the same way, like he's not taking you
past the playoffs. There's just no way you don't have
the current team to do that.

Speaker 1 (17:28):
My final word on is that the Giants can go
to a playoff game because they can buy a ticket
like the rest of us. Yeah, I was like, I
got nothing guy from a quad out of that. He's like,
I really was expecting more. I'm so disappointed. Anyway, I
guess it's settled case law. Like Kim Moore, Ward is
going to the Tennessee Titans. I think cam Ward obviously

(17:50):
believes that cam Ward is going to the Tennessee Titans.
He was asked about his top wide receivers in the NFL,
and two of the four people he named happened to
play for the Tennessee Titans. Wow, Calvin Ridley at number one,
I believe this, Jamar Chase at two, Justin Jefferson at three,

(18:10):
and trailing Burks at number four? What based off a
what tape? Based on? Based off of I think I'm
going there and I'm gonna big up the guys that
I'm going to be throwing the football to. Wow, that's
all it is.

Speaker 3 (18:28):
I would be shocked if Traylon Burks is the second
best wide receiver on the Titans in this time, ten
days from now.

Speaker 1 (18:38):
Traylon Burks, Traylon Burks in three NFL seasons, told that
has played a total of twenty seven games, right, So
what is that? Wow, he's missed like twenty four games.
I think it is if if I'm doing the math right.

Speaker 2 (18:55):
So the twenty seven games twenty.

Speaker 1 (18:57):
Ten has fewer than seven hundred total career receiving yards.

Speaker 2 (19:03):
That's insane.

Speaker 1 (19:04):
In twenty seven games, he has fifty three catches for
six hundred ninety nine yards and one touchdown.

Speaker 3 (19:09):
Like, if I'm the Titans, right, second rounds up, obviously
one is cam Ward. We already know that. Like two
in the second round, there's going like this is a
deep It's not a wide receiver class. We're gonna talk
all about it like last year's with the high end talent,
but there's a lot of depth when you get into
that second third round range. They're probably gonna load it

(19:31):
up on weapons to put around cam Ward Like yes,
oh again, if you asked cam Ward this same question
in two weeks, he's probably gonna be saying another rookie
is one of the top.

Speaker 4 (19:41):
Yeah, seriously, Like I don't know. I thought this was hilarious,
And plus he was playing Fortnite, which is even more hilarious.
It made me feel old egg. This is like the
back then I was playing like DTA Super Smash Brothers,
Like this is his main game. But anyway, just talking
about who, Yeah, it's insane, Like I can't believe that

(20:02):
all my.

Speaker 3 (20:02):
Nephew wants to do is play Fortnite.

Speaker 1 (20:04):
Fortnight Fortnight Fortnite.

Speaker 3 (20:07):
Like give me Fortnite money, Like that's all he wants.

Speaker 4 (20:10):
Wow, there's Fortnite money. I did not know that. Oh yeah, seasoned.
I'm seasoned now. But him bigging up Traylon Burds just
makes him a great teammate. And I think he's coming
in trying to be the leader to big up and
give confidence to his guys that are already currently there,
which you appreciate coming from your franchise quarterback quote unquote.

(20:32):
I just feel as though, like there's no way that
we can honestly think there's going to be a Treylon
Bert season, Like there's no way the stands are popping
from the grave and saying that we're back, baby, Like
I don't think this is that moment.

Speaker 1 (20:46):
No, this is definitely not that moment, by the way.
Uh shout out to our producer Gavitt who dropped in
the chat that I guess. He also said Tony Pollard
and Sharp are the best running backs in the NFL,
and he's certainly for V Bucks apparently Florio, I've.

Speaker 3 (21:03):
Bought many of v Bucks now that he says.

Speaker 1 (21:04):
It for for Fortnite, So so yeah, Kim Moore obviously
all in on the Titans. Gonna be really awkward if
they do take up dual Carter at number one somewhere else,
just because everyone else's head would implode. That would be
really really the draft off right there if they if
they took it.

Speaker 3 (21:26):
Like holding the beer like like we could.

Speaker 1 (21:29):
Get like us Wow, changes the entire draft that would
change the entire draft. All Right, we're gonna start diving
into our wide receiver tiers to take a quick break.
Stick around for more of the NFL Fantasy Football Show.
All Right, we waited until the very end to give

(21:49):
you the wide receivers because it is arguably the deepest
position in this draft. Running Back is very good, very
deep this year as well, but the way wide receiver
has gone in the last few NFL drafts, we've seen
so many guys immediately step in and make an impact,
and there's a chance we could have that again this year.
Although the consensus fellas is that this draft, this wide

(22:11):
receiver class, maybe isn't quite as good as what we've
seen in years past. Nonetheless, there are some some real
difference makers potentially here in this group. A Tier one.
It is a man into himself. It is Travis Hunter.
We talked a little bit about him at the top
of the show, but I'll ask each of you, starting
with you Florio, at this moment, not knowing where he's

(22:34):
going to be, not knowing what position he's going to
primarily play, where are you comfortable taking him? Is he
a top thirty receiver, top forty receiver? How comfortable are
you you know we're drafting him.

Speaker 3 (22:52):
I want to say top forty, but I feel like
other people will pull him up. Look, this is all
subject to change based on where he up. Because just
like Lakwan was saying last segment, like we are going
to get answers throughout this spring and summer, and like
I'm sure as early as at, like the day after
the draft or whatever, there's gonna be articles out there

(23:13):
like here's how the new team he's on plans to
utilize him. So he I know, landing spot matters with
all teams, but I feel like Travis Hunter is maybe
the most landing spot dependent prospect ever because of how
special he is and how differently he can be utilized.
But just as a wide receiver, there's nothing I don't

(23:35):
think he can do. Like I think he's a tremendous
route runner.

Speaker 1 (23:38):
He's got elite speed.

Speaker 3 (23:40):
He he could do what I love, and that's winning
numerous different ways. He could win after the catch, he
could win downfield. He has good hands, he could win
contested catches. He didn't have to a bunch in college,
but when he did, he was able to make those plays.
And again, this speed is what I go back to
because to me, speed separates like good and great and
and he has that high end speed, that second gear

(24:02):
where he could be a big playmaker, a home run hitter.
And I think if he was to play wide receiver
exclusively in year one, let's say he wasn't a corner,
he is a top thirty wide receiver for sure, and
I think maybe even top twenty four at because of
how wide receivers have been pulled up in recent years.
And his upside would be a wide receiver one or

(24:25):
high end wide receiver two, something like that. But again,
so much is just determined on how he is going
to be utilized, and until we get those answers, I'm
not willing to push I don't even know if I'll
be willing to push him up after we get those answers.
It all depends on how they're going to use him.

Speaker 1 (24:40):
So I'm looking Lakwan right now at the Fantasy pros ADPs,
the consensus ADPs. Hey, I was looking at that too, sweet, Well,
we can look at it together. Travel Hunter right now
among wide receivers is wide receiver fifty six. Wow. Sandwich
between Michael Pittman Jr. And Quinton Johnston. I suspect that

(25:03):
is just a function of the unknown talking.

Speaker 4 (25:07):
Correct, Yes, that's definitely the function of that. And like
even at other places, like an underdog, he's like wide
receiver forty three, and he's going off the board after
you know, Khalil Shaki, He's going around where Matthew Golden
is getting pulled off and loof the burden. And like,
I feel like some people in the best ball community
are understanding, like, hey, this kid is going to play
at some point. He's gonna make big plays at some point.

(25:29):
But what matters to me is the volume, because like
we talked about it, like he's going to be in
some of these packages. How many targets per game is
this guy going to see? Like is he even going
to have opportunity like to be on the field when
they're in the red zone? Like these are all things
that you know, we need to consider and understand and
have our expectations in order. Like I won't be touching

(25:49):
him in redraft, like that's already a given. Like this summer,
I won't lose any sleep I'm missing out of him.
I don't care if he finishes a top fifteen wide
receiver great, I'll buy in next season. Let's keep the
ball rolling, you know, But like this year, I've taken
too many chances and I've taken too many risks on
guys that just had too many question marks, And like
this time, I want to play. It's plain, simple and safe.

(26:11):
And I understand scaring money, don't make money, but Marcus
with do you always say you never lose money off
of profit, right.

Speaker 1 (26:16):
Never lose money making a profit?

Speaker 4 (26:18):
We go, So yeah, I can't see myself like talking
him up and like saying, like, yo, now we have
the idea that he's going to be playing wide receiver
for X amount of snaps forer a game, like it's
one of those things like we just have to wait
and let it play out. Like I can't get on
this micro go anywhere and say, Travis Hunter, you must
draft him because of X, Y and Z. I don't
care where he's at.

Speaker 3 (26:40):
If he's going wide receiver fifty six, I'll take him
in every draft because we're talking about him being a
late round dart throw at that point and worst case
I could cut him. But if I have to use
a significant pick on him, then I feel exactly like Lakwonda.

Speaker 4 (26:55):
But he's going around your boy, Kalusha gar that's highly disrespectful.
Like I think that crazy disrespect that closure care is
still being looked at.

Speaker 1 (27:03):
Wait fifty no, no, I got forty four.

Speaker 3 (27:08):
So that's forties. Yeah no, Like Secure's the exact opposite
of Hunter. He's super safe, but we're getting outside the fifties.
To me, I just want upside of that range.

Speaker 1 (27:19):
Yeah yeah. Uh so I'll ask you this, Floya, because
of the three of us, you're the one who still
plays the most Fantasy baseball. I had to sort of
retire from that because, I mean, you look, because Travis
Hunter is playing both offense and defense. The the Shoho
Tani comparisons keep coming up, right, I get it, And
I'm not bringing this up to try and lift one

(27:42):
up at the other's expense, But I will say that
in fantasy, I think the difference between them is that
Shohy can can do both pitch and hit. And I mean,
correct if I'm wrong, He's still a high first round
pick in Fantasy baseball. Correct.

Speaker 3 (27:56):
He was the number one pick because uh because one,
because what he did hitter wise last year was so
good that like he was it was him and judge
with the top two hitters, and then you add in
that it Also baseball is weird because it's very format dependent,
Like in weekly leagues, he's kind of viewed only as
a hitter because you're not gonna take all his that

(28:18):
bats away just to get that. But in daily leagues
where you get to pick, he's by far the best
player because you start him as a hitter like six
days a week and then the other day, like it's
it's a cheat code. Ya though, has him as two
separate players, and I hate.

Speaker 1 (28:35):
That as somebody, as somebody who doesn't play, that would
seem to make the most sense, But again, I haven't
played fantasy baseball in years, so I don't. I don't
know if I get.

Speaker 4 (28:43):
As two players available in drafts, okay, do it?

Speaker 1 (28:47):
I mean, I guess, But if IDP, that could yeah
to be interesting.

Speaker 4 (28:53):
I've seen him getting talked up into fantasy streets too
in the IDP community like hey, draft traveling, Like I'm like, wow, okay, yeah.

Speaker 1 (29:00):
Except that having the little bit of IDP that I
that I know, if Travis Hunter is the corner that
we think he can be, he's not going to be
a good IDP player. Like because he's not gonna get
targeted because people are going to target him. He's especially
if he's not making tackles, then like what are you
really getting? You need picks, you need pick sixes.

Speaker 4 (29:21):
But I'm gu that IDP slot he still account for
offensive Fantasy points as well.

Speaker 2 (29:26):
So it's kind of like I know.

Speaker 3 (29:27):
What, though, Tawny. With baseball, it's which like you only
get hitter or pitcher points depending on where you use him,
which I again like, I'm like, you should get all
of it because he's a unicorn and he should be
treated as such. But then people are like, well, if
you don't have altana, you're gonna lose every time.

Speaker 4 (29:44):
I wonder if Julio Jones got IDP points when he
was making that random tackles and stuff at times playing defense.

Speaker 1 (29:51):
I mean, if you're on probably depending on your your scoring,
all right.

Speaker 2 (29:55):
Then well you suld get offensive points in the IDP slot.
I'm just saying, I.

Speaker 1 (29:59):
Mean, you know, like how many tackles does Jamus Winston have?
Does that? We can go down to the rabbit holes. This
is what we wanna do, right, all right, we can
go down the rabbit hole.

Speaker 4 (30:07):
It ain't gonna be much because you get negative points
on the interception.

Speaker 1 (30:10):
That's true, very true, Wow, very true. I didn't think
we'd go there. Let's let's move on to Tier two
because a few more interesting names in Tier two Tech
McMillan from Arizona, Matthew Golden from the University of Texas,
A Mecca Abuka, who we talked to Matt Harmon about
earlier in the week, and Luther Burden, who is sort

(30:30):
of Schrodinger's prospect, either good or not good, depending on
which of my two co hosts you ask here. You know,
it seemed like you're being out voted La Kwan.

Speaker 4 (30:42):
That, Yeah, I get it, I get it. He's explosive
and open space. You're gonna have to design some plays
for him, and you're gonna be very, very very happy
and satisfied when he makes these big plays on offense.

Speaker 2 (30:55):
But who's drawing up these plays? Where is he going?

Speaker 4 (30:58):
I can't have a solid opinion on him to talk
him up, because we've seen too many prospects of his caliber,
of his electric ability fail and fall in their face.
And I'm not going to say Laviscus Channau is the
exact comp that I have, But It's an example of
like a guy that was explosive in open space who
ran like a running back, slipped all these tackles, and
it failed because he went to the bad location of

(31:21):
the Carolina Panthers and Jacksonville.

Speaker 1 (31:23):
So it's like, hey, does Luther Burden?

Speaker 2 (31:26):
No, no, no, no no.

Speaker 4 (31:27):
I'm just saying I think there's a risk with the
type of talent that he has. We've seen too many
examples of them going to wrong locations. So I need
to know Landing Spot before I start talking in positive
light about this kid.

Speaker 1 (31:39):
But doesn't that apply? I feel like that applies to
pretty much everybody outside of Travis Hunter. I think it does.

Speaker 3 (31:46):
I think the biggest difference between me and Laqwan is
we just view Luther Burden as a like I see
the type of player that you're talking about, LaQuan, and
I know that prototype and it is very like Landing
Spot depending on how he's used and stuff. I just
think Luther Burden's more than that. Like, I think he
can win downfield. I think he can separate consistently. He

(32:08):
could win after the catch. He's got good hands, Like
I saw a lot that I really loved while watching him.
I think the QB play held him back a lot,
especially on those deep passes. Ideally, I think he is
a number two in the NFL. But I literally could
say that about every single wid receiver in this class
outside of Travis Hunter.

Speaker 1 (32:29):
I don't know. I think that's the biggest difference.

Speaker 3 (32:32):
Is just how we think he can be utilized, because
I think he's a lot more than just a gadget guy.

Speaker 1 (32:36):
I mean, I just I get the the impression. Like
you said, outside of Travis Hunter, so many of these
guys are going to really have their fantasy futures hinge
on the teams they land with, the offenses they land
in the quarterback play they get. Whereas I don't know
that we could have said that about some of the

(32:57):
guys last year, the last couple of years, right, I mean,
Jamar Chase going to Cincinnati was great to play with
Joe Burrow, But do you doubt that Jamar Chase or
Melik Neighbors or Brian Thomas Junior, you know, those guys
feel like they would have been studs anywhere. And there's

(33:20):
some places where the gravitational poll is just so strong.
That's my point, But that's an outlier, right, Like I
mean like like you know, like, hey man, like you're
really great, except for you got sucked into a black hole.
A lot of would have like that would have sucked
everybody down right, but like everybody else in open space
is doing great. Yeah, I like Technic, I like tech McMillan,

(33:41):
but it does feel like you know, like you Floria,
you and Harmon we're talking about like are they going
to send him somewhere where they're like, hey man, we
just want you to sort of be a high point guy.
Do we want you to just try to be a
contested catch guy? And maybe that's not his best strength.
I mean we've seen that with guys in the past
before and it just has never worked out. Instead of

(34:02):
actually figuring out what he does well or maybe using
him in a way that that hasn't been used before.
I just I worry about that with all these guys
in Tier two.

Speaker 3 (34:12):
Yeah, Like I wouldn't want Luther Burden to go like
to the Patriots, let's say where they're like, you're our
number one. Like I would love the volume, but I
don't think he's that kind of like X receiver. But
if you put him opposite of an X then and
You're like, you could run streaks, you could do all
these different things. Like I think he adds a lot

(34:32):
to an offense because he can. He's just very versatile.

Speaker 1 (34:37):
How how do you feel about Matthew Gouldens. I feel
like that's the name. We haven't spoken about a lot.
I hear the sigh from Florio, so I would like
you he kicked off in Hale, Like what what is that?

Speaker 3 (34:50):
I like Matthew Golden. I think he's getting a little
pushed up because of the forty and when I watched
him play, I didn't feel like he he was as
he played as fast as the forty time indicated.

Speaker 1 (35:07):
And then.

Speaker 3 (35:09):
Of all of these players and tier one and tier two,
I feel like he has the greatest chance of potentially
busting because like his college production doesn't match the hype
that he's like people are talking about to him, like
is he the best receiver in this class?

Speaker 1 (35:27):
I never saw that.

Speaker 3 (35:28):
While watching him, I saw a really good number two
at the NFL level. Like I think his ceiling, I wrote,
is like he could be like a Jalen Wattle type,
but not as good as Jalen Wattle. And Marvin Mims
was another name that came to mind, but I don't
know if it was the cute because I didn't love
the QB player. I think at times the downfieldness held

(35:50):
him back, but like there was a lot of screens
and stuff like that in his game, and I like him. Again,
I agree he belongs in this tier and all of that.
But if you ask me of these names, who's most
likely who is the highest chance of not living up
to expectations, I feel like he's the answer.

Speaker 1 (36:08):
All right, where are you on? I see you nod
in your head.

Speaker 4 (36:12):
When I was watching it, it was more so of like, Okay,
this guy can really take the top off. He's fast,
he could be reliable, and like I looked at him,
like how you said Wattle, Like his role will kind
of be like a Wattle Devontae Smith, Like these guys
that are wide receiver two's to an alpha and they
can have that ability to step up at times as
a wide receiver one. Like I feel like he will
be in a situation like let's say he goes to Dallas.

(36:34):
Let's just pinpoint him the Dallas. That'll be a great
location for him to really act as a number two.
But at times can really help CD Lamb get open,
help CD Lamb just kind of take a break, you know,
running those deep routes.

Speaker 1 (36:46):
You don't have to.

Speaker 4 (36:46):
Use CD deep all the time, where Golden will take
the top off. So I feel like this will be
an area like he will fit perfectly, and for fantasy
it may translate to a weekly starter. So it's like
one of those areas of like we're back to landing spy,
We're back to where he needs to go. But it's
more so of like if a team understands that he
is not a one and he's not the best player
in this draft, the best wide receiver in this class,

(37:09):
then he will be able to be successful fantasy wise.
And that's how I'm going to address him in draft.
When you know, when these drafts start coming up, especially
with rookie drafts underway. Now, like he's going in the
first round, I think you do take that. I think
you do take that opportunity to take him in the
first round of a rookie draft, because again, my ideal
of how I look at him as like a wide
receiver too, with some wide receiver one upside on a

(37:31):
good team.

Speaker 1 (37:32):
I'm looking at his his profile on NFL dot Com
and Lakwan lanceser line camped him to Chris Olava and
there goes to Lakwan, he's leaving the show.

Speaker 3 (37:45):
Is a good player, though, Look just don't give don't
give back you Golden Derek Carr please.

Speaker 1 (37:50):
Yeah, I was about to say, just don't give him
car if he doesn't get Depending on how things go,
Chris Olave may not have Derek Carr this year too,
and it's getting the year that shoulder shoulder situation.

Speaker 3 (38:02):
How do you guys feel about players, like, because Golden
has never had like a thousand yard season or anything
like that. And I believe if I'm remembering correctly, like
Isaiah Bond, no, the he out produced Bond. But like
I don't know, like do you guys ever hold that
against the player where like they don't put up huge
college numbers.

Speaker 1 (38:23):
Some of it depends on the offenses that they are in,
you know, depends on the offenses they are in, the
quarterback play that they get. H you know, the fact
that he did not he was not the leading receiver
in terms of catches at Texas, but he was their
leading gainer in terms of receiving yards, had nine touchdowns,

(38:45):
you know, on a team that was very good on
a very good offense. Yeah, I think that counts for something, Right,
you look at the conference they played in, you look
at the level of competition, you look at the production
he had. I do think that is worth something. But
I think a thing that is sort of consistent with everybody,
pretty much everybody in this class is that there aren't

(39:08):
any guys that I look at as true alphas, right.
There are all a lot of really good complimentary pieces.
I've seen Matthew Golden mocked to Seattle and I'm sort
of like, yeah, I mean it'll be a good fit.
I think in terms of the opportunity, I don't know
that it necessarily elevates the Seahawks offense, you know, at

(39:31):
this point, right, like you know, like Kean Jaysen and
Matthew Golden with Sam Donald at quarterback be the trio
that really gets this offense over the top. And I
don't think so. I think it's kind of a middling
offense if that's what they're going into the season with,
you know. I think the same thing with with a

(39:52):
Mecca Abuka. I think he's a good player. I thought
it was interesting when we asked Harmon about all the
recent guys coming out of Ohio state where Abuka fits.
And his first reaction was, I think he's kind of
the bottom of the list, you know, And not that
he's saying Buka is a bad player, but when you
compare him with the Garrett Wilson's, the JSNS, the Chris

(40:13):
Olaves that at Buka doesn't necessarily Marvin Harrison Junior, he
doesn't necessarily rate with those guys.

Speaker 3 (40:20):
He needs volume more than any of these other.

Speaker 1 (40:22):
Guys for fans, Yeah, and can he go somewhere to
get that level of volume. I mean, I guess somebody
will draft him as such, but I don't I don't
know that I would just bring him in and load
him up with targets in year one.

Speaker 3 (40:35):
I don't know, because he's he's not a big play
guy so more than anyone else. He But last point
on Golden is, I'm not a huge college football guy,
as you guys know, but like me, I know, coming
into the year, it was like McMillan and Burden are
the top two wide receivers and obviously Travis Hunter, and
then at the end of the year it was all
like McMillan is the number one guy, and then Golden

(40:57):
ran the forty and everything kind of changed, And I
don't want to overestimate him just because he can run
fast and chorts.

Speaker 1 (41:07):
Well, that makes you different than Al Davis. That is
the thing I do miss about draft season. You know
when Al Davis was still with us and running the Raiders,
that you could just look at the forty times and
you could easily predict who the Raiders are going to
draft because like, this guy had the fastest forty, you're
a Raider. Like that was pretty much how it went.

(41:28):
Who is it? That's its Darius Hayward Bay, Darius Bay. Okay,
since we're since we're on Darius Hayward Bay. You know
you were asking about guys in their their college production
and how much you hold it against them. Darius Hayward
Bay was a chief I think example of that because

(41:49):
he played in a Maryland offense that was just wide open. Right.
They ran multiple wide receivers all the time. They they
throw the ball a ton, and somehow in his college
career he never even had eight hundred yards in a season.

Speaker 2 (42:08):
Yeah, I'm looking at it.

Speaker 1 (42:09):
It's insane, right, I mean they were the I mean,
like Maryland wasn't necessarily a good team in terms of
wins and losses. But they threw the ball eight ton
and they were out of the shotgun eight ton And
somehow DHB never put together a really higgs Yeah, oh
my god. But he was fast. He was fast, and

(42:32):
that's what it was. Wow. All right, we still got
a couple more tiers of guys to go through. We'll
get you through tiers three and four as we continue
our look at wide receivers heading through the draft. That's
next on the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. During the break,
we decided to go through the wide receivers taken in

(42:52):
the two thousand and nine draft. Darius Heywood Bay was
the first one taken at number seven, and we went
through the first round. One great Michael Michael Crabtree easily
the best of the bunch. He went to the Niners
at number ten and ended up having a very good career.
But the other first round guys, Jeremy Macklin, Okay, he

(43:14):
had a couple of decent seasons. Percy Harvin was never
the NFL player that he was in college at Florida.
He was amazing at Florida. Never matched that in the NFL.
Hackey Nicks, who had a pretty good career mostly with
the Giants. He went number twenty nine. Kenny britt Let's
go goes number thirty to the Tennessee Titans. Kind of

(43:37):
had an okay career, but yeah, overall, the first round
wide receivers in two thousand and nine were pretty underwhelming,
although I would think that Darius Hayward bay Nasa did
he have the worst. He might have had the worst
career of all the wider Seriously, he has the first
one of its mocked. Yeah, he was the first one

(43:59):
off the board and he was probably the worst of
that bunch there, all right, Our Tier three and Tier
four wide receivers. Tier three Trey Harris from Ole, miss
Elec Iomanoor from Stanford, Jadon Higgins who is Lakwan's dude there,
Iowa State. Let's see another Iowa State, Jalen Nol, Jalen Royals.

(44:20):
So we got two Jalen's and a Jayden here in
this tier. Xavier Rastreppo from the You, Jack Beck from TCU,
and Isaiah Bond from Texas who I think we should
note that there are allegations of sexual assault against Isaiah
Bond that are being investigated right now, and that is

(44:42):
very likely to have an impact on where he is
drafted right now. So that's definitely something to keep in
mind when when you think about Isaiah Bond at this point,
I'll start as you look On, because you were talking
to Harmon about elk Ioman or from Stanford, guy that
you just recently took a look at, and you seem
to have kind of fallen in love with a little bit.

Speaker 4 (45:03):
Yeah, and our very own Jamie hurdall Good Morning Football,
she's talking him up as well. And I think there's
something there, man, And honestly, I think he falls into
a situation where he becomes a possession type. But he'll
flash that big playability at him. He'll throw up a
one hand and catch it and grab it in one
of those things and very very you know, sideline awareness too,
and it's like one of the qualities of a wide

(45:24):
receiver that you want. And like, he's just one of
those guys that I think he's gonna fall into a
situation and Harmon even notion to it, like doesn't he
just seem like a Green Bay packer And I'm like,
oh my.

Speaker 1 (45:34):
God, yeah, he kind of does. But that doesn't seem
great for fantasy, right, No, it just like it just
seems like a black hole for fantasy.

Speaker 4 (45:43):
If he know, and like I hope he lands into
a situation where he could really get the reps and
get the work. Like I'm not expecting year one impact
from him, honestly, and like if we do get it,
it's one of those things where it's like, Wow, this
is just the perfect situation for him to be a contributor,
to be a wide receiver too that can flash at times.
And that's what most of these teams in this draft

(46:03):
need right now. They need another guy on the other side.
Like we're talking about the Panthers who need a one,
but we're looking at you know, the Patriots they need
a two next to Diggs, because I think Diggs is
still going to be able to go out there and
be you know, a Stefan Diggs of the past, but
more so of like, you need another guy that needs
that help. You need somebody that's gonna go out there
and be able to contribute and be reliable.

Speaker 1 (46:25):
Anybody in this group that that you really like Floria,
I mean, I know the you know, Lakwan loves Jayden Higgins.
We were you a Jalen Nole guy. I don't remember
if you were. I do like Jalen Nole.

Speaker 3 (46:39):
I I remember watching him and being like he kind
of reminds me of Khalil Shakir, Like really good in
the slot, good hands, can win after the catch and
flash a bit downfield, Like you're not drafting him for
his downfield ability, but that's in his game. You could
sprinkle that in. But he could be a possession guy
who's really thrives after the catch. And another one that

(47:03):
I like. I don't want to say I like him
because of all the off the field stuff he's dealing
with now, but just as a player, Isaiah Bond stood
out to me because of speed and he liked to
me he plays faster than Matthew Golden. I know Golden
ran the forty faster, but watching them together, I was like,
this guy is the one that I would want to

(47:24):
be given the ball to every time because he could
he could take at the distance any single plays. So
that's always what I'm looking for, is like, do you
have a a trait that makes you kind of elite
in some regard? And he has that speed I believe
so in this group those Noel and Bond are the
two that I have the ranked the highest of these guys.

Speaker 1 (47:46):
From just strictly a football standpoint, Did it bother you
the whole Isaiah Bond, I'm gonna break Xavier Worthies record
in the forty to end up not coming really close
to that.

Speaker 3 (48:02):
I thought it was hilarious. I know we got a
couple of jokes on this, and you don't underpromise over
deliver like that's that's that's advice to life.

Speaker 4 (48:12):
That hurt his draft stock before any of the other alludes,
because like you you really set up these gms like
all right, we're locked in, and then it's like.

Speaker 3 (48:20):
What is this?

Speaker 1 (48:21):
What is that?

Speaker 3 (48:23):
I knew about that before I watched him and then
so like to me, I was like, oh, this guy's
not nearly And then I watched him and I'm like,
oh he's he's To me, I think he's plays faster
than Golden who ran way faster.

Speaker 1 (48:36):
So like.

Speaker 3 (48:38):
I I think that the forty is cool and all,
but like how many times there's a player running untouched
straight forty yards? Like to me, I care more about
can you do you look fast when you're playing against
your peers? On the field and he checked that.

Speaker 1 (48:52):
Box for me. Yeah, no, I think that's fair. Yeah,
we said before. Yeah, the the combine, I guess, is
theater for a lot of people. But it you know,
they don't do actual football drills in the combine. You know,
it's just not There's a reason it's called the Underwear Olympics.
So I do think it's it's important to sort of

(49:13):
go back to the tape and look at what you're
seeing there, you know. And I think to your point
though about Matthew Golden and his college production, I think
some of you know, if you are underwhelmed by it,
I think some of it is because he was sharing
opportunities right that they they had other guys there like
Isaiah Bondu, you know, who could make plays, and so

(49:35):
that that naturally took some things off of his plate
a little bit. So I think that's sort of worth
keeping in mind. I'm you know, I like bond I
like iomen Ore. But again, I think if we talk
about the guys in tier two being landing spot dependent there,
what does that mean about the guys in Tier three?
You know that you're really yeah, you're really guessing, is

(49:59):
that you know, like best late round dart throws were
probably more Dynasty dart throws than anything.

Speaker 4 (50:04):
Jalen Royles is a name that comes up a lot
too in the fantasy streets, and I think it's more
so his landing spot needs to be an understanding from
the coaching staff that they need to know what his
role actually is, because like he's better after the catch,
Like he's not a guy that's gonna constantly win down
the field, Like he needs to operate on those first
two levels, so like the screens and then little slot
slants stuff like that.

Speaker 2 (50:25):
But it's more so of like he goes to a.

Speaker 4 (50:27):
Spot that's expecting more from him, I think he's gonna
be really disappointed, even as a fantasy manager, of the
outcome that you're gonna get with him.

Speaker 3 (50:35):
Yeah, in this range, Like look, I'll say I like
Bond and Noel and Lakwan. I know you like Ia
Manor and uh Higgins, and I'm not as high on
them as you, but none of that matters, right, Like
this is just how we feel about these players. But
if you put the guys that I like in bad
situations and the guys that LQ likes in good situations

(50:57):
are on the guys that look going and I think
right Lakwan would feel the same way. Like if those
guys get buried on the depth charts and some of
these other guys now are in the landing spot where
they're getting lots of volume, Like, yes, these some of
these guys will be fantasy relevant. We just don't know
which ones yet because they're so landing spot.

Speaker 1 (51:15):
Depending make the draft in March. These I just I
laughed because you maybe inadvertently just upended and dug up
the whole absurdity of draft season, right, Like I don't
think you meant to do that, but like really, because
like everything you said was one hundred percent correct, right,
Like we could sit here and give you evaluations, and

(51:35):
you look at metrics and you can break down tape
and do x's and o's, But for a lot of
these guys, if you just end up buried on a
depth chart, none of that matters, and all the chatter
we've been doing for the last six weeks is useless.
But you know, we filled space and we satisfied sponsors.

Speaker 2 (51:52):
I'm just here to give people expectations.

Speaker 1 (51:54):
Just I'm just here so I don't get fined. That's it.

Speaker 3 (51:58):
Tyler Johnson. Here were fantasy streets were pushing him to
be like a second round Dynasty pick, get higrafted in
the seventh round.

Speaker 1 (52:06):
The Tyler Johnson hive was strong for years. Really, yes,
I wasn't the OG.

Speaker 4 (52:13):
I was part of it when he landed with the
Bucks and then I'm like, Okay, opportunity is there.

Speaker 1 (52:18):
That's the thing. He landed with the Bucks and like
they had Mike Evans and then yeah and Chris Godwain,
Chris Godwin. I'm like, I'm like, I don't care how
good he is, Like he's just not going to get
a legitimate chance on that roster with those guys.

Speaker 4 (52:31):
He gotta shot with the Rams. He showed up in moments.
He was very crucial last year.

Speaker 1 (52:35):
By the time we got to the Rams, like you know,
the hive had been hit with rocks and nobody was
like caring about it anymore.

Speaker 3 (52:42):
Yeah what, But like, look, I know, Lakwan, you want
the Rams to take a receiver for real life purposes,
and I get that, but like, if you put one
of these guys on the Rams, they're not going to be,
in my opinion, fantasy all that fantasy relevant because you
have Puka and DeVante Adams who are going to get
one hundred and fifty targets each.

Speaker 2 (52:59):
Like I wanted a Mechaa Buka.

Speaker 4 (53:01):
And then as you start watching and understanding, like he's
a slot guy, okay, but his role will overlap with Pooka,
you know what I mean? Like I kind of want
Pooka to operate slot outside even with Adams. So it's like,
where does he fit in? You know what I mean? Like,
I don't think he will get that voum they be
fantasy relevant. But a guy like Jaalen Nole, Like we
need somebody that's going to be a slot who's gonna

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be quick in his breaks and stuff like that. I
think there could be something there for him if we
just let him live and breathe there and just keep
Pooka and Adams on the side. But again, it's all
about what's gonna work and what overlaps what doesn't overlap.
For real life purposes, I want us to draft the slot,
but fantasy purposes, it's not going to be anything worth drafting.

Speaker 1 (53:39):
No. No, I think any any receiver who gets drafted
by the Rams is it's like that.

Speaker 4 (53:47):
Yeah I said that too, but I'm like, oh man,
it just it just wouldn't be like fantasy relevant, Like
I would love to draft him, but it's just be
like I already know.

Speaker 2 (53:56):
How this is going to go.

Speaker 1 (53:57):
But I think that applies to any receiver the Rams
with draft, like I I hope we do. I hope
we do, even Luthor Burden. If we get burdened, then
we're back. Baby. Come on, you know you don't. You
don't deserve Luthor burd You don't deserve Luther Burden now
because you just type let him go, let him. You
had too many negative things to say about Luther Burden.

(54:18):
You don't.

Speaker 2 (54:19):
He's not in the Satral yet, He's not in the
Satral yet.

Speaker 3 (54:22):
He ends up in the Rams. Lakwan's buying his jersey.

Speaker 1 (54:25):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Gavin. Gavin says, the RAM is gonna
draft Luthor Burden and Caleb Johnson and force you to
watch them watching this. I really kind of that to happen.

Speaker 3 (54:39):
Just to watch him crash out of you.

Speaker 1 (54:41):
Also, you've been very on board with like kind of
moving on from from Kyen Williams. You're kind of like,
I don't know about Kiren. I guess they replaced him
with Caleb Johnson. That's gonna be a you know, that's
gonna be a monkey's paw like Alwa's move from cal
Karen Williams and the monkey Paul curls a finger and
then like you're year screwed, real quick, last feminute before

(55:03):
we get out of here. Tier four, Kyle Williams from
Washington State. Pat Bryant from Illinois, says Johnson from Oregon.
Nick Nash from San Jose states, I felt that Maryland
and Twine Wells Junior from Ole, Miss, Ricky White at UNLV,
Dante Thornton Junior at Tennessee. I'm a Florida. Anybody out
of this group that you particularly have an eye on.

Speaker 3 (55:24):
I think a lot of these guys are going to
be just NFL contributors if that, except for one Kyle Williams,
and this is how high I am on him, I
would put him not only in Tier three, I would
put him over all of those other Tier.

Speaker 1 (55:38):
Three wow wow.

Speaker 3 (55:40):
I like Kyle Williams a lot. I know he's small,
but he is fast, and he can win and he
can't so he's not an X. He's not like an
intermediate kind of guy, a jump ball guy, anything like that.
But he could win, Like you could generate screens or
short quick throws for him and he could win after
the catch. That way, he could win deep, and he's

(56:01):
just as big of a threat on those short passes
to turn into a chunk play as he is on
those deep targets. So again, not an NFL one, not
an X anything like that. But I was really happy
when we were talking about harmon the other day because
this is as I'm sure you guys feel this way
too at times, Like I'm not a scout or anything
like that. So I'm watching these players and writing down

(56:23):
what i think. But I'm like, is this accurate? Harmon?
Kind of he said, Jayden Reid, And that was the
name I wrote that I wrote, and they Flowers were
two names that came to mind while watching him play.
So like, again, not a one, but I think there's
a lot of big play capability here and upside and
and I just hope he felt like I know the

(56:44):
bills have been tied to him, like that would be
a good landing spot for him anywhere where you need
a number two opposite of like a one. I think
is a is a good landing.

Speaker 1 (56:53):
Spot for Kyle Williams anybody you like in this group.

Speaker 4 (56:56):
Look on I like a few players like type Tye
Fell and I like Antoine aka Juice Wells. I mean, look,
he's kind of versatile and I like that you know
on his table when you watch him, like he has
some personality to like all his plays, like he has
some type of bully mentality, Like not as versatile as
like a debo, but like he's looking for this smoke,
He's looking for the contact. And it's like I like

(57:18):
wide receivers when they get the ball in the hand,
they immediately turn into a running back and like that
just gives you so much opportunity for yards after to catch.
So like guys like that, I think you know they'll
land somewhere. And like Florio said, these guys would just
be NFL contributors somewhere. But I wouldn't be surprised. You know,
you see Sunday, you know you see Antoine Wells in
the in the end zone off of a big play.

Speaker 1 (57:38):
Yeah, I mean I like Nick Nash. I understand that,
Like he's very uh the situation has to be almost
perfect for him, but he feels like he feels like
one of those better and best ball guys, right, one
of those guys where he'll have a big game or
he'll make a ridiculous highlight catch, he'll have a couple
of touchdowns, and then people will blow fab on him
and then you won't see him again for three weeks.

(57:59):
Like it has very much has that feel to him.
But I'm also, you know, Nash pilled enough that I
might just you know, throw a chip on him late
in a Best Ball draft just because I think there's
a possibility of that happening.

Speaker 3 (58:13):
He ruins when you look at stats for the wide
receivers in this class, he ruins it because he had
like two hundred targets. So he just leads in like
every single category. So I'm always like, okay, besides Nick Nash.

Speaker 1 (58:27):
Who led in this category. Yeah, I mean, that's that's
super fair. Also, a guy who took advantage of the
COVID situation played six years at San Jose State, although
three of them were as a quarterback, and then he
switched over to wide receiver as well. But they played
six season, six seasons with the Spartans.

Speaker 3 (58:48):
Who one of these guys was a wide receiver for
running back First, I'm drawing a blank on who a lot.

Speaker 1 (58:55):
Of position changes, a lot of position changes. I mean,
I again, I think you got Smith.

Speaker 2 (59:01):
He was a wide receiver turned running back.

Speaker 3 (59:05):
I'm thinking of it was a running back. Yeah, that's
exactly who I was thinking of.

Speaker 1 (59:08):
Yeah, that's my boy.

Speaker 2 (59:10):
Yeah, we'll get them later.

Speaker 1 (59:12):
So yeah, that's gonna it's gonna be interesting. Next next week.
We'll be back with you on Tuesday and we'll kind
of give a draft overview and maybe that's right and
hum next Tuesday, all right, so we got that. That'll
be great and uh then on Thursday, we will do
a live stream, no pod on Thursday, but as soon

(59:35):
as Night one of the draft is over, we will
be up and live on YouTube on the the NFL
Fantasy YouTube channel, kind of recapping what we saw in
the first round and getting you ready for the rest
of the weekend as well in the draft. We'll be
sure to stick around for that will be uh yeah,
remind you of it next week too, So should be fun. Uh.
There you go. That's it for our wide receiver tiers.

(59:57):
That is it for our positional breakdown. So look look
forward to talking to Emory Hunt as we do every year.
We'll do that next week. But that'll do it for
this edition of the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast, The Happy,
Safe and Healthy, do good, and live well. Enjoy the weekend, everybody,
and we'll talk to you again next week.