NFL Fantasy Cheat Sheet: Offseason Mock Draft #1

Marcas Grant, Michael F. Florio, and LaQuan Jones return with a brand-new episode of the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast, live-streamed on YouTube! This time, they’re diving into their first mock draft of the offseason with 10 of their closest friends (1:08). Marcas picks from the 3rd spot, LQ from the 6th, and Florio from the 12th, as the trio breaks down their draft strategies round-by-round—explaining their picks and analyzing the moves of their fellow drafters.

Are fantasy managers overhyping Ashton Jeanty? And where does Patrick Mahomes fall among the league's younger starting quarterbacks? The crew discusses all that and more. After wrapping up the draft (57:55), they share their biggest takeaways and lessons learned. And to close things out, Florio and LaQuan give Marcas a special birthday shoutout (1:01:16).

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:11):
Hey, everybody, it is a Thursday, May first one, twenty five.
Welcome to the NFL Fantasy Football Show where all right selfishly,
one of us made another trip around the sun. It's
me your man, nam G Marcus Grand joint by Michael
an Florio and Lakwan Jones. We are live, we are live.
It is kind of the cheat sheet. I guess if

(00:32):
you will, I guess We're not are officially calling this
the cheat sheet? Is that right?

Speaker 2 (00:35):
Please?

Speaker 1 (00:36):
I miss it so much? Okay, well, then welcome to
the cheap shot. The first one, first one of the
off season. We decided to do one because we had
a mock draft. Now that the NFL Draft is over,
we decided we would do a mock draft. So we
got nine other folks together and we went through fifteen rounds.

(00:57):
It was your standard PPR one quarterback redraft league. And
so we talk about it or whatever. So, uh, yeah,
I look, I guess let's just get into it, right,
Let's pop up the draft board here and uh and
see what we got here. Uh, just for house keep purposes,
I took the number three spots. Lakwan you were in

(01:19):
the number six spot. Florida you were in the twelve spot.
I'm curious, LaQuan, wh why did you pick six? Just
kind of get your rationale for.

Speaker 3 (01:27):
It, because man, I honestly been in a bunch of
bestball leagues these last couple of days, like way too many,
and like I kind of liked that middle spot this
year in the draft of like some of the guys
that in some are the builds that you could do,
and like I feel like I killed at this draft
other than one mistake. I made one mistake, but I
ain't mad at it.

Speaker 1 (01:44):
But we'll get into it later.

Speaker 3 (01:45):
But I like that middle spot where I can build
some of these rosters.

Speaker 1 (01:49):
We will definitely dive into that. In Florida, you picked twelve?
Why why did you pick twelve? Uh? The truth?

Speaker 2 (01:56):
Because I had a couple of things I had to
do throughout the day yesterday, and I was like, you
know what, I'm going to bang out both my picks
and then I don't have to worry for a little bit.

Speaker 1 (02:07):
All right, that makes sense. I took three just I
want to see when the first two picks we're gonna be.
And then that was sort of you know, I feel
like that's where the draft kind of starts, right, You
kind of know what one is. Two is always sort
of all right, they can go one or one of
two ways, so that at three it's like, all right,
so now we kind of can get up and going.
So let's dive into it. No surprise, the number one

(02:28):
pick in the draft was Jamar Chase. I imagine that's
going to be fairly standard across the board. I'm not
trying to think any anybody else. You guys think could
be the number one overall pick, and a lot of
redraft leagues.

Speaker 3 (02:43):
By the time someone comes around and we start seeing
workout videos of aashing Gent, I wouldn't be surprised, to
be honest, It's gonna be one of those things because
a lot of people are hyped about them.

Speaker 1 (02:52):
Man.

Speaker 3 (02:52):
I mean this draft doesn't show that. But I feel
as though once we start getting closer and more people
start coming outside and start reading the report, and yeah,
it might be that.

Speaker 1 (03:02):
I don't. I don't think so, I just don't. I mean,
I think I don't see I think where we went,
we'll get to Gent in a little bit. But that
surprised some people. I just I think you are overestimating
more of the of gen pop. I think you're overestimating
the casual crowd, right, because but yes, we have seen
crazier things. But I mean a lot of people. Look, yes,

(03:25):
we have been about this since February, Right, we've been
all through draft season. You never a lot of people
check out once the super Bowl is over and they're
not following all the draft prospects to combine the whole thing.
They're just tuning in so they don't necessarily know Ashton
gen Z the way a lot of us do. Also,
there's just gonna be a lot of people who are like,

(03:46):
why would I spend my first pick on a rookie?
Like I don't care who he is, right, Like, I'm
not gonna spend my first pick on a rookie, So
I I you know, I don't think that's gonna be it.

Speaker 2 (03:55):
Right, I know, we none of us three that, Like
you're looking at our none of us are taking Saquon one.
But I think is gonna go one in a good
amount of leagues.

Speaker 1 (04:05):
Yeah, I think he's the one. I think he's the
other option just after putting up two thousand yards really
having a legit shot at setting the single season recorrazy,
I think he is. I know, you know, we have.
We have sort of made our peace with it. For
those of you who maybe don't know, I declared a
couple months ago that I don't think Saquon is worth
a first round pick, just because the history of guys

(04:29):
who run for two thousand yards, their follow up seasons
have seen a significant fall off in their overall production.
So I just can't. I can't do it with Saquon
in the first round. But yeah, I mean he does
go at the one dot five, which you know, look,

(04:49):
if you are about Saquon in the first round, is reasonable, right,
I think that's that's okay. Just goig run down to
the first round. Jamark Chase at one, Bjean Robinson goes
to to Jared Cook. In my head, I am I
am pretending that this is the former NFL ten Jared
Cook for former Ram Titan. You know all that Jared Cook.

(05:11):
I took Justin Jefferson at three, Ced Lamb goes four,
Barkley at five, Quant takes Jamior Gibbs at six. We
go with I'm on Ross Saint Brown at seven, Malik
Neighbors at eight, Puka to Koua comes in at nine,
aj Brown at ten at Nico Collins at eleven, Ashton
john T at twelve. I will ask you, though, Florial,

(05:33):
did you did you purposely take him at twelve instead
of thirteen just because you had the the because you
had the you know, the turn there, you know, because
I was like to like take guys like one the
guys like maybe I'll take him the next round just
to say, oh, I got a value. I got Ashton
john Ty in the second round instead of the first round.
But did you make any point to take him in
the first round to kind of, you know, plant the

(05:55):
flag a little bit?

Speaker 2 (05:56):
Uh, maybe a little. I knew I was taking Brian
Thomas Junior with one of those two picks once I
was sitting there like neighbors Pookah where guys that had
my eye. But once they went, I was like, all right,
if Brian Thomas Junior falls to me, he is the
next wide receiver that I like. But I was looking
at the running backs then, and we talked about this

(06:17):
the other day, right, like, I don't want to pull
genty up ahead of the top three running backs. Even
though I'm not really in on Saquon, Bijon and Gibbs,
I still think deserve to go over him. But when
you say stuff like he's the rbfore, people's ears perk
up and they're like, oh, that sounds spicy. Like I
was on the Insiders the other day and I said
that and they were like, what, But you have to

(06:42):
put it to the test, right And I'm sitting there
on the clock looking at all the running backs and
I'm like, Okay, I like Devon h Chan, I like
Derrick Henry, Jonathan Taylor, names like that, but I don't
think I could push them ahead of Genty right now
because Henry is thirty two Chan and I like him
a lot. He's got all the big play capability. He's

(07:03):
not gonna see volume like Gent does. So it was
really for me to put my logic to the test.
And I came away being like, yeah, Ashton Genty's my
my RB four heading into twenty twenty five.

Speaker 1 (07:13):
Yeah. I mean, I feel like Derek Henry was the
one guy that we really debated, right whether or not
you're gonna take Henry ahead of Gent And I look,
I think, yeah, this is worth putting out there, the
fact that this is really a ceiling pick, right, I mean,
this is what we believe he can be at his
absolute best. That's why we're talking about him as the

(07:34):
RB four in drafts right now. And so I would
say one of the things that we took away from this,
if we were kind of texting each other before and
after the draft, if you're gonna get your rookie running backs,
you gotta get them early. Yeah, yeah, they're gonna go
you gotta get them early. I did account five rookie

(07:54):
running backs were off the board before we had our
first rookie wide receiver. Wow, John ty Goes in the
fifth a, Mario Amrion Hampton, Trevon Henderson in the fourth round,
and then Quinn Shawn Judkins and r J. Harvey started
the fifth round. So, yeah, if you want a rooky
running back, you're going to have to pay a price.

(08:14):
You're gonna have to grab them early. In a whole
lot of drafts, I'm get into the second round, first round,
not a surprise wide receiver. Heavy eight wide receivers in
the first round. In the second round, we had another
seven wide receivers and a tight end. So Brian Thomas
Tyreek Hill goes second. Then we had Derek Henry, Christian McCaffrey,
Drake London was your two five Davon ah Chen goes six. Uh,

(08:39):
brock Bowers lakwan, I mean, explain it. I mean I
should explain it. Sounds like I'm, you know, ripping the pick.
I that's not that's not my intention right now. But
but what made you go brock Bauers at the two second?

Speaker 3 (08:52):
I honestly wanted to go wide receiver here, and like
Drake London was going to be that pick. I thought
people were going to just basically, you know, fall on
him again. But then I started looking at the wide
receivers that were available there, and as you could see
after me, like, I didn't like JSN because we don't
know what's going on with that Seahawks offense. I didn't
like Lamb McConkie because I had my priors about lat
McConkie them adding Trey Harrison and what is that going

(09:13):
to look like for his target share. Then I started
going through and I'm like, I kind of feel good
about taking brock Bauers here because we know he's going
to be the one of that offense and he was
very good last season and could see a lot more
touchdowns with Gino Smith as the quarterback here with this offense,
with Ashton Genti. So it kind of just was a
no brainer, Like I want an elite pass catcher that's

(09:34):
going to have an elite target share, and he kind
of just fit the bill there. And I didn't want
to go double running back, running back hero. I mean,
that's so twenty ten, you know, Like I wanted to
be a guy that was gonna get Drake Lennon, but
it didn't work out, so I just pivoted to another position.

Speaker 1 (09:50):
All right. So he goes at two seven. So let's
talk Floria about the guys that went right after him,
because Jackson Smith and Jigbu goes at the eighth spot.
In the second lad McConkie at the ninth spot. I'll
say that I like McConkie probably more than Jasn, just
because I don't, you know, I don't know what's what's
really going on, you know, with with him moving positions

(10:11):
potentially and everything going on there in Seattle. But that
felt spicy for both of those guys.

Speaker 2 (10:18):
I can't get, Like I keep saying, I like Jaysn
a lot, right, I just don't like the price, like
you're paying a borderline wide receiver? What wide receiver off
the board was he was he even he was.

Speaker 1 (10:32):
Let's see, so we had eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve, twelve.

Speaker 2 (10:36):
Yeah, you're paying a wide receiver one price for him.
I don't love that as much. There was changes to
a lot of changes to this offense, and the biggest
thing being Cooper Cup coming in. He's a slot guy
as well now at this point in his career. So
I think Jaysen can play out wide. I'm not saying
he can't, but I don't know if he can play

(10:56):
out wide to the same level that he was as
a full time slot player, and that is my biggest
concern with him when it comes to lad McConkie, though
I'm in like, I much prefer him in the third round.
I know with our wide receiver heavy builds though, he's
getting pulled up to the late second and I have
no problem with it. Like as wide receiver thirteen, that's

(11:17):
where he finished last season, and that was despite a
slow start out of the gate for him, his first
year in the NFL, first year with this coaching staff,
first year with Justin Herbert and this coaching staff and
all of that, and he was one of the very
best wide receivers against man coverage, which is huge. We
know he could play well against zone as well. He

(11:38):
could play in the slot, he could play out wide,
he could do it all. So I think Ladd McConkie
should be valued as a wide receiver one and I'm
okay paying that price to get him.

Speaker 1 (11:48):
Yeah, I just I mean, I looked at it, and
I love Lad McConkie. I made no bones about that.
Last season. It felt a little early, but I think
when you put it in the perspective of everybody is
generally going wide receiver heavy. The fact that you know,
here we are there were what fifteen receivers off the
board by the end of round two, you are going

(12:11):
to have to pay at tax on some guys. That
being said, I took t Higgins at the two ten
and feel perfectly fine with that.

Speaker 2 (12:19):
Taking him over those other two guys.

Speaker 3 (12:22):
Probably probably definitely had like ten touchdowns last season. I
mean like that, that was like career high exactly. So
it's like, oh, so y'all y'all coming like that and
he paid and happy. Now, yeah, I'll probably take well.

Speaker 1 (12:37):
And I mean, you know, are we sure that the
Bengals defense is going to be any better? The other part,
that's the other part of that. If the Bengals defense
isn't any better, then.

Speaker 3 (12:49):
I actually thought about over Brock, But then I'm like,
then you gotta worry about t being available. Is he
going to be on the field or not? Because he
has this type of injury history.

Speaker 2 (12:57):
You know, that is always what gives Paul yeah, and
it is you're paying Yeah, You're paying that high price
for a WI because he is a he has wide
receiver one upside when on the field, it's just it
all depends by your billites because on the field, look.

Speaker 3 (13:12):
MG is able to make that pick because he has
justin Jefferson. Me being that I got Gibbs, I need
a wide receiver one at the second price, it wouldn't
have great point. It would not have worked out, you know,
I just would have helped the Yeah. I probably would
have hated myself after that. That would have been a
mistake of the draft.

Speaker 1 (13:31):
The rest of the second round, Garrett Wilson goes at
the two eleven, Josh Jacobs at two twelve, and then
we started the third round with Kenneth Walker, which when
I saw that pick, I immediately thought of you, Lakwan,
because I know how you feel about kdub three three
one that that two.

Speaker 3 (13:48):
Spicy, horrendous. Actually, I mean I'm not going to back
the punches that, Like we have to really understand the
situation that's going on right now with the Seahawks, Like
there's movement around that's going on in that backfield. That means, actually,
he's a guy that I feel as though it was
a solid RB two, But can we get a full
season out of ken Walker? Like can we get a
full efficient season? I mean it's just gone down and

(14:09):
down and down as the season has gone on, And
I feel like now with you have a beast in
the clubhouse and Damian Martinez, it might be surprising though,
like these next couple of weeks, like we're not too
far away from camp. I just can't see him being
a reliable RB two on a team like this with
this bill.

Speaker 1 (14:29):
Yeah, I will, here's the thing and and we'll get
into it. Because uh T one Chris f F Chris
B took with four straight running backs. He questioned itself
about that swing pick. I would too, definitely get in
definitely took some swings. So we could dive into that
in just a little bit.

Speaker 2 (14:46):
Why, I mean, because he's I don't like I wouldn't
have taken him over like Bucky or Jonathan Taylor, but
I think third round is an appropriate price for him.

Speaker 1 (14:57):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (14:58):
I think he's gonna be really good in this Clink
Kubiak outside running system. Like he's he's got the He's
the only one of these backs that has the speed
in my opinion, to be a home run hitter on
the outside for this team.

Speaker 1 (15:09):
I will say his efficiency has declined every year, uh,
since he's been in the league. Had that thousand yard
season as a rookie U nine oh five year two
last year, missed some time.

Speaker 3 (15:22):
I mean that's an issue. It just looks like, you know,
a nasty pick at that third round, like early third round,
where you could have went a whole different way. Like
there's so many other players I would take over him.

Speaker 2 (15:34):
I know the explosiveness went down, but the pass catching
went up too, And I still believe he.

Speaker 3 (15:39):
Is in a catch He called a lot of those
checkdowns from I think You're.

Speaker 2 (15:44):
Making too much of a seventh round pick with Damien.

Speaker 1 (15:47):
I'm gonna start calling I'm gonna start calling Makwan RB
three because like Damian Martinez running back drafted, Uh, jerk
qu I mean, like you your your RB three. Now,
that's that's the RB three.

Speaker 3 (16:04):
Actually he was like RB five.

Speaker 1 (16:08):
He worked it away.

Speaker 2 (16:09):
I'm telling you now we'll see.

Speaker 1 (16:11):
Moving down through round three. Trade ming Bride is the
number two side end off the board. Not a big
surprise there. I took Bucky Irving at the three three.
At that point, I felt like I needed a running back.
You know, I'm not. I don't think I've ever fully
committed to a true zero RB build. I will admit
I just I don't have the guts for it. I

(16:33):
hate looking at my running back spot and just you know,
making a weird face. So I took Bucky at the
three I do.

Speaker 2 (16:39):
I just as a one two is I mean in
the third round is awesome?

Speaker 1 (16:43):
Yeah, So I mean he's my RB one. First quarterback
comes off the board and that is Lamar Jackson at
the three four. Then we got to Chase Brown at
the three five. Terry McLaurin goes six. Josh Allen is
your QB two off the board. Do we get to
Jonathan Taylor at the three eight and Brian Sash takes

(17:04):
him there and he made the point in the chat
which by the way. I love y'all. You guys are
very chatty in the chat. I'm not I'm not really
much of a chatter big chatter. I might I might
put one or two things in. You guys are very talkative.
You guys. You guys are very talkative. It's not a
it's merely an observation. But he did make the point,
you know, why does everybody hate Jonathan Taylor? And it's

(17:28):
a good question, right because, I mean, here he goes
the eighth pick in the third round, he's running back seven,
he's running by twelve. Like have we have we gone
too far on the Jonathan Taylor? I won't say hate,
but are we ignoring him? Like what's happened? I think we're.

Speaker 3 (17:46):
Ignoring him because of the Anthony Richardson thing and about
how mobile quarterbacks like they basically you know, vulture all
the goal line carries, and like, I honestly think you
know this last season, you know, Jonaan Taylor was fine
on my rosters, I mean the end or whatever, but
I think he was just kind of like forgotten about
more so because of the whole Anthony Richardson distraction. Like

(18:07):
I feel as though, like this season, you know, We're
probably not going to see much of Anthony Richardson for
a full season. So if he's back there were Daniel Jones,
I can honestly see him being more utilized in that
passing game, kind of like how we saw Saquon, you know,
with Daniel Jones leaning on him. So Daniel Jones might
be leaning on Jonathan Taylor this season. So this is
great value where he's going. As you're RB one.

Speaker 1 (18:30):
Yeah, I mean, I think you're right. I don't. I
don't know if I buy into the pass catching part.
I think I think they sort of tried to integrate
him in there and it was.

Speaker 3 (18:38):
The result of saying worried about him running routes. I mean, look,
Daniel Jones isn't under pressure dump it off there he is.

Speaker 1 (18:45):
I guess. I mean last year eighteen catches, nineteen the
year before that. I just, you know, I think that's
all he is, is an emergency pass catcher and like that.
That feels like it's a hard thing to sort of
bank on this point, But he is coming overteen ards
season of his career. Yeah, like he had fourteen yards,

(19:07):
he had eleven touchdowns.

Speaker 3 (19:08):
I know people hate him.

Speaker 2 (19:09):
I will say though, it like his season was one
of those ones that wasn't as fun if you had him,
because in his final four games he ran for six
hundred and twenty seven yards and six touchdowns. So like
those final that final stretch was great if you made
the playoffs with him, But then you look at his

(19:30):
earlier game logs and you're like, yeah, probably not a
whole Like there was a lot of teams that had
him and didn't get to enjoy that run because they
weren't in the playoffs.

Speaker 1 (19:37):
Yeah, yeah, that's probably true. Rest of the third round
shakes out Jayden Daniels coming off the board at three nine.
He's your third QB, taken Kyen Williams at to ten,
James Cook at eleven, and Breisee Hall at the three twelve.
I'm are you okay with Kyen Williams at three two one?

(19:58):
Since yeah, I'll cool it.

Speaker 3 (20:00):
I just don't think we should be banking on him
having the same season he had last season. But look,
I'm not a Kiren hater. I just have issues with
certain traits of his game, like hold on to the ball.

Speaker 1 (20:10):
That's it. I'm not a Kiren hater. I just don't
like him a whole Lot's just like.

Speaker 3 (20:15):
There's no clutch factor with him, you know, like there's
no breakaway spe with him, and you dropping the ball
in two crucial moments. It's like, these are the things
that as a fan, this is where my fandom comes out,
and it sounds like hate, but it ain't hate. It's
just you know, you gotta do a little better.

Speaker 2 (20:30):
I will say, like, looking at these running backs that
are available in round three. I know this is a
fantasy analyst. We're all wide receiver heavies and stuff, but like,
get your wide receivers in round one and two, like
you could get Kyen Williams, James Cook, Priest Hall at
the end of round three as an RB one like.

Speaker 3 (20:46):
Ye insane battle.

Speaker 1 (20:47):
I like that a lot. Yeah. I mean it looks
like round three is gonna be your running back round.
You know. If this is what we're gonna see consistently
that then this is probably where you're gonna target your
running backs. We get seven of them off the board,
uh in in round three. Round four we go back
to pass catchers primarily again. Starts with DJ Moore, Devonte Adams,

(21:09):
Courtland Sutton, Mike Evans and a couple of running backs
with Joe Mixon and Alvin Kamara. How do you guys
feel about Alvin Kamara, because at least for me, I
want I really just want no parts of the Saints.
I don't I don't want part of the Saints offense.

Speaker 2 (21:24):
You know, you had a good run, but he's getting
up there in age he is. I know last year
he ran like he had a resurgent type year, but
prior to that there were signs of decline. And then
you see who the quarterbacks are going to be like
he he's gonna be one of these guys who volume
is gonna be very much needed. Pass catching volume is

(21:45):
going to be very much needed.

Speaker 1 (21:46):
I mean it just it feels mostly like for Alvin
Kamara kind of you know in fantasy, thank you for
your service, but it just service. It's been a ride.
It's been a ride, like but I can't. I can't
do it anymore. I just don't want that.

Speaker 3 (21:59):
I hope we get to see and Neil sprinkledon at
some point this season though, if things are all bad,
you know, if the Saints are like just just go ahead,
go out there and play.

Speaker 2 (22:08):
I think he's gonna be that like Jamal Williams type role,
like he's gonna be the power, the hammerback. Yeah, in
that at least that's my thing.

Speaker 3 (22:17):
He gives me like Le'Veon bell like vibes. How he's
so patient at the line and then he's not that
fast though, that's the only thing. But he's he's able
to get elusive and break some tackles. So just let
him go out there and development.

Speaker 1 (22:29):
Yeah, I will watch that from afar like I don't
want any Oh, I'm not draft He's on the watch
list for sure. I don't want any part of my
fantasy team. Lakwan. You took for she Rice at the
four to seven, followed by George Kittle, who was the
tight end three off the board at four eight. I'm

(22:50):
Marvin Harrison goes for nine Jesse the picture. I guess
Marvin Harrison has bulked up. Does that make it differently
about him? No?

Speaker 2 (22:58):
No, because he is a great but limited type of
receiver and he has a quarterback that I'm not sure
it is the best fit.

Speaker 3 (23:07):
Literally, nothing chounge from that offense from last year to
this year. They'd even draft a wide receiver. I don't
think that was worth notable and the same offensive coordinators,
So what are we doing?

Speaker 1 (23:17):
Wow, you didn't he get the he doesn't get the
off season like b s o hl Bump, you didn't
get the best shape of his life, bump, Like, we're not.

Speaker 2 (23:24):
Look, he doesn't train to for the off season, Marcus.
He trains for Sundays. That's what he told us.

Speaker 1 (23:30):
I play, I play real sports, not trying to be
the best at exercising. He does. He gets the Kenny
Powers Award every single year. That's it, because you know, like,
have we gotten past the whole like swooning over guys
in your training camp shape? Right? You know? You know
I I drafted a little bit of extra aj Dillon

(23:52):
when he was like all quad zilla out god right,
yeah remember that?

Speaker 3 (23:56):
Yeah, I remember that summer Mike Davis.

Speaker 2 (24:00):
The list goes on.

Speaker 1 (24:01):
Yeah. So maybe we've maybe we've grown up, Maybe we've
been sured, hasn't hurt enough we know now. Maybe that's
what it is. Maybe it's not that we're sure, it's
just like we're just we're not ready to get our
heart broken again for sure.

Speaker 2 (24:14):
I did think what was pretty interesting was that there
was three qbs in round three and none in round four,
which shows that even in the top five. There's a
clear top three in my opinion, and I was really
sad because I wanted one of those top three and
they didn't make it to me in round three. But
if you want one of the top qbs, round three
is where you're gonna have.

Speaker 1 (24:33):
That's where you're gonna have to go. For sure. I'm
guessing you were targeting Jaden Daniels.

Speaker 2 (24:38):
Yeah, but I would have took any of the top
three that fell. He typically goes third, which is why
I'm probably gonna have him the most. But I see
a clear cut advantage and having one of those three
on my team, it's like, I get one of those
three or I.

Speaker 1 (24:51):
Wait, yeah, no, that's that's fair arthor Harrison. I took
T J. Hawkinson, So I l I'm gonna ask you.
I'm gonna ask you because I decide all you feel
about it, right because I sat there and I'm like,
I want to tie it in here. This is usually
about the spot I take my tide in either round
four or five, and I'm looking at Hockinson versus Laporter

(25:13):
because you know, I love you know, I like Mirke
brock Bauers, but I don't want to pay the price
for him. I like Trey McBride. He went a little
earlier than I thought he might, so that was off
the board. As much as I like George Kittle, the
week to week ride with George Kittle is a little
bit frustrating to me. Like the overall number is fine.
Some weeks, they just they want to run the ball

(25:34):
and he's basically an offensive lineman and you don't get much.
So that that part kind of made me stay away
from him. So I'm looking at either Hawkinson or Laporta.
I worry about Sam Laporta isn't quite the right phrase,
but I do think that we're not gonna see the
heights he hit in his rookie season, just because there's

(25:55):
so many places for Jared Goff to go with the football.
I mean ask you mcquen, would you take Hawkinson over Laporta?
How would you feel about those two?

Speaker 3 (26:04):
Would take hawk over Laporta just based on what we
saw last year, Like I don't think he's going to
return back to that rookie season production, just based on
we got Jameson Williams activated, we got a Monron Saint
Brown just killing it and being that alpha wide receiver.
So where does he actually fit in? And then you're
going to be sharing that backfield you know, in targets
as well with Gibbs it Monty. So it's kind of

(26:25):
like I'm good off Sam Laporter, Like he'll be a decent,
you know, tight end to acquire, but I'm not going
to acquire him this early. Like I'd rather just either
get a Rock Bauers a high target share. He's going
to be a little bit better this year in the
touchdown area. I'd rather go that route or just wait
all the way to the bottom of the draft. But
your question of Hawk over Laporta, you know how I

(26:46):
feel about Hawk. But it's more so like at least
he will have a presence in that offense, Like we
could debate about him being the second target in that
offense with a young quarterback, which will basically be his
Ben Simons year I guess will be a rookie year
for him, but not really but Ben Ben I guess
that basketball reference works right, So.

Speaker 1 (27:05):
He can't like, man like this feels that feels like
an insult, like what are we doing?

Speaker 3 (27:10):
I don't know, we don't know anything about JJ just yet,
you know. So it's more so like I could see
him leaning on the tight end position. Most rookie quarterbacks
do that sometimes with their their security blanket. So yeah,
I could justify Hawk over Sam Laporta with that, all right?

Speaker 2 (27:25):
Uh, just I think people are souring on the porter,
Like I'm in a Dynasty startup draft and I got
him in the fourth round. He went after like Tyler
Warren Kittle, like a lot of tight ends, and I
get I agree with Lakwan. I don't really want Laporta
a ton in redraft, but I'm like, yo, he's young,
he's good, he's tied to a good offense, like in

(27:46):
a Dynasty format or whatever. If he slips, I think
there's a buying opportunity there. But on the lines, I
find myself pausing a lot for different like it's because
of no Ben Johnson. I don't know if that factors
into you guys at all, But I'm always like, we
liked him so much as the play caller, and now
he's not there. Can things change a bit?

Speaker 1 (28:07):
I mean I guess things. I mean they will change,
I think necessarily, but I don't know how much they change.
I don't know. I feel like, you know you have
a formula that sort of works, right, So why would
you completely go away from it? I don't know. I
mean I still think when.

Speaker 3 (28:25):
To deploy those plays and know when to have those
plays deployed is definitely going to play a factor into
that offense. Like you still have the same pieces, but
how are they going to be utilized? You know, I
don't I don't know.

Speaker 2 (28:37):
Dan Campbell's he's going to be like trick play, like
just just go like he can't control himself.

Speaker 1 (28:43):
Yeah, he's going.

Speaker 3 (28:44):
To get reckless some of these games, and you need
a Ben Johnson to pull it back, like I got
this bro chill out.

Speaker 2 (28:49):
Also, Sorry, Dan Campbell, I know you're probably gonna be
at the game tonight. I hope you go home very sad.

Speaker 1 (28:56):
Listen, this is obviously this is a Nix Piston's reference.

Speaker 2 (29:00):
He's been like, kudos to Detroit because they're kind of
up and coming with their sports teams right now.

Speaker 1 (29:05):
He's at games and stuff.

Speaker 2 (29:06):
I'm like this, this is cool because for so long
that city had nothing sports wise going on.

Speaker 3 (29:11):
I hope he goes very again. You know, him taking
his shot at the Rams, you know, in the playoffs. Yeah,
this rivalry for months and that was so disrespectful, Like,
are you crazy? You know who you're talking to the
most dangerous time.

Speaker 1 (29:26):
In the NFL.

Speaker 3 (29:27):
Now, don't get me hot right now. I know Dan
Campbell talking to the Eagles.

Speaker 1 (29:31):
Yeah, yeah, we're talking about what we're talking about. I
have no beef with Dan Campbell. I'm I hope you
have a really nice day. Maybe you have a nice
meal with your family. That's all sports, team lose, That's
all there. It is after Hawkinson, though, four rookie running
backs of Mario and Hampton Tradon Henderson in the fourth round, Quinn,
Shawn Judkins, R. J. Harvey start the fifth round. Is

(29:56):
there any one of these guys you like more than
any of the others Florida.

Speaker 2 (30:01):
I was gonna ask you guys if I'm crazy about
this because I did a Dynasty rookie Mack yesterday and
I took Henderson over Hampton, and people seemed a little surprised.
And I know Hampton was the RB two for most
people in this class. I liked Henderson more than him personally,
but my thinking was they both went into situations where

(30:24):
there is a veteran presence there that I don't think
is going to fully go away. So if they are
splitting opportunities, I want the home run hitter, the pass
catching back, the guy who can put up points even
on say they get like fifteen touches a game. I
think Henderson could turn that into a big day. Whereas Hampton,
to me, his best talent in my opinion, was that

(30:48):
he was born to handle like three hundred touches. But
is he going to get that opportunity in year one
with Najee Harris there So for me, I still like
Henderson a lot, but maybe I need to be talked
off the ledge a little bit. So I want to
see what you guys.

Speaker 3 (31:03):
So oh MG, you go ahead, nohead, I was gonna say, like,
I don't think you're crazy, but I will be on
the other side of that, Like I would rather target
Hampton because I think naj and him splitting is gonna
burn out quicker than most people understand. Like, I feel
like we already seen what Naji could be. He's not efficient,
it's the wet jeans running oversides, Like we already covered this,

(31:25):
Like it's more so we know what Naji is and Stevenson.
I feel like it is going to be splitting with
Henderson season long rather than Hampton, which could be a
league winner at some point where he's going to be
getting those max touches towards the end of the season
to where you're gonna feel really good about grabbing him
over Henderson.

Speaker 2 (31:44):
My pushback would be the Chargers regime brought in Naji
Harris this offseason, they inherited Ramandre Stevenson and still used
a second round pick on a running back.

Speaker 3 (31:53):
True. True, that is true that you.

Speaker 2 (31:55):
Can make the case say the Broncos use the first
round like, I get it, I get it, and yeah Hampton,
Hampton has a probably a clear path of getting that work.
But I think he needs that work, whereas I think
Henderson could.

Speaker 1 (32:08):
I could kill it on like fifteen touches.

Speaker 2 (32:10):
But again, I know I'm like the Henderson guy. So
that that's why I want to ask if I'm crazy.

Speaker 1 (32:18):
I mean, I think you're crazy because I think I think,
especially in year one, I'm I think you're splitting hairs.
I think more down the down the line sort of thing.
I will throw this in there for Hampton again, at
least in year one, that the Chargers seem like they're
interested in bringing back JK. Dobbins too.

Speaker 2 (32:35):
If that happens. This is a nightmare of.

Speaker 1 (32:38):
A backfield, right, at least, like I say, at least
for one year. Right because Najee Harris is on a
one year deal. I can't imagine anything with Dobbins is
going to be more than a year. So at least
for twenty twenty five, that three headed backfield is one
to just kind of stay away from.

Speaker 3 (32:53):
A RAMS legend. Jerry Cook does not want to hear that.
Then if you know JJ Dobbins that backfield because round
pick yikes.

Speaker 2 (33:01):
But my question is, why did you use a first
round pick on On Hampton if you're gonna have two
other capable running backs in this backlas.

Speaker 3 (33:10):
I guess he's the future. I mean run down two
guys so he can learn from I guess.

Speaker 1 (33:14):
I don't.

Speaker 3 (33:14):
I don't know. I I just don't get the logic.
So yeah, me neither bring him back. I just be like, why.

Speaker 1 (33:22):
Looking into the chat Carboy eighty four saying that Harvey
is his rookie RB two. Get it, it's not crazy.
If you're listening to our pod from earlier in the week,
I made the point that I just don't believe Sean Payton.
I just yeah, I don't. I just don't. I don't
trust him. I don't believe him.

Speaker 2 (33:40):
Do you like Harvey in the fifth round?

Speaker 1 (33:43):
Yes, I do. I mean, I'm just I'm looking at
the other running backs that went after him, and I
don't hate it. Yeah, just sort of looking at hub
at least I was in If we're talking die in
a redraft, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (34:01):
Yeah, yeah, Dynasty. I love him.

Speaker 1 (34:04):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (34:06):
I also like him, like, I think this is a
good range for him. But I feel like a lot
of like David Montgomery, Chuba Hubbard, and I still love Pacheco.
I feel like these guys James Connor, like they're being
underrated a little bit.

Speaker 1 (34:19):
I think I'll say this, this is the first year
that I think I'm out on David Montgomery. And I've
been a Montgomery guy for a long time. You know.
Last year I was very much like, I'll take Montgomery
over Gibbs just because price right, Like, like, I felt
like production would be similar, but price was going to
be better on Montgomery, And really, when you look at

(34:42):
it at the end of the year, there was a
notable difference in production between the two of them. I mean,
I know Montgomery missed a couple of games, but man,
there was such a there was a gap between the
two of them, and I think, you know, getting one
year older, Gibbs really establishing himself in that offense at least,

(35:03):
you know, if this is the price we're talking about
a fifth round pick for Dame of Montgomery, I think
this might be the year that the I'm out. You know,
I could agree with that.

Speaker 3 (35:11):
I mean, the Ben Johnson factor, that's what It's going
to be a lot for a lot of people out
there drafted, and I get it. Yeah, Like I said,
I'm not really gonna like target him in that fifth
and sixth round, like where I could see him living
in breathing by the time summer comes around. I just
think I will try to lock up my RB twos,
you know, before I even get to the fifth round
and try to get some of these guys that we

(35:32):
talked about with the Mixons, tailors, breist Halls, et cetera,
et cetera.

Speaker 2 (35:36):
Yeah, just with Isaiah Pacheco ship by the way.

Speaker 1 (35:40):
Jesus man, that was that was a very you pick.
Though I looked at your roster and like there were
so many things that I'm like, Yep, that's Florida. Yep,
that's Florida. Yep, that's him. Like, there were a lot
of things there that I'm like, yeah, that's definitely like
if you done plumbing blind taste test out of them, Like, yeah,
Team twelve is Mike Floria.

Speaker 2 (35:56):
I don't get why Pacheco's falling so far though, Like
he was her last year. That's why he didn't play
great when he returned.

Speaker 1 (36:04):
I think people just forgot. I think he just because
you know, we didn't talk about him a lot. I
think it was just out of side, out of mind.

Speaker 2 (36:10):
He's the meat back on the Chiefs and there's there's
less pass catching threats than in the past.

Speaker 1 (36:15):
Also, I think because everybody was so down on the
Chiefs offense last year, I think that makes it easy.

Speaker 2 (36:20):
I also feel this way with the receivers. I think
I'm gonna me of all people, with the bills stuff
all behind me, I think I'm going to be very
much higher on the Chiefs offense than most.

Speaker 1 (36:32):
Yeah, you know, I'm just fill in the rest of
the fifth round. Jalen hurts at the three. Sam laportera
Jalen waddle. Joe Burrow goes five to six Davonta Smith,
Chris o'lave at five to eight, is eight Flowers at
five to nine. Then we finished out with three running backs,
Montgomery Chewba Hubbard, isaiaha Checko, Brandon Ayuk. At the top
of the sixth round, Chris Godwin goes after him, Jerry

(36:52):
Judy at these six to three, James Connord sixty four,
Xavier Worthy he goes six to five, Addison right after that,
and then you took Travis Hunter Lakwan at the six seven.
So I know we talked a lot about Willyam What
does he do? Is he gonna play more offense or defense?
I think the early consensus was he's gonna play with

(37:14):
a lot of defense and then maybe dabble on offense.
But Liam Cohen says it's gonna be the opposite. Yeah,
he's gonna primarily play offense and then he's gonna start
to learn and pick up and play a little bit
of defense. I just wonder now if once that word
gets out, is is that ADP gonna go up on
Travis Hunter? Absolutely?

Speaker 3 (37:31):
And I love where I got him too as my
wide receiver three. And it's more so the videos on
social media following the draft is what made me more
like into it, Like, Okay, we've got a little indication
he's going to play a lot more on the offense
versus defense, So getting him as my wide receiver three
just seems like a steal because we already know what
Liam Guhn can do. He's creative on offense. You have

(37:53):
the quarterback that you're trying to research to get back
up there who's been living in the satral discontent as a.

Speaker 1 (37:58):
No G at point.

Speaker 3 (37:59):
But it's like, I trust Liam Cohen and I trust
Travis Hunter's talent because how much we were talking about
him being probably the best prospect in this draft. And look,
I want to get a wide receiver that I can
gamble on that the high ceiling that he's probably going
to have because that target share is going to be
up there, like Colan's going to want to throw the
rock and he's going to definitely be in that game

(38:20):
plan to have that high target share. So the opportunities
for them are there, so I don't see why not
take the chance on them.

Speaker 2 (38:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (38:27):
I mean again, now that we sort of have an
idea of what the or what the role is going
to be, how the Jaguars want to use them. I
think we can sort of hours. Yeah, I don't know
if I don't know if it's caught up though yet
I have no idea. Let's see after him. Tech McMillan
goes at the sixth eight, DK metcalf at six'. Nine

(38:47):
SO i told you guys about On David. Montgomery i'm
in big On Jamison, Williams Like i'm, THIS i think
is the True Jamison williams breakout. SEASON i, MEAN i
guess you could say the last year Was, YEAH i
can say that counts not sure because he went over
a thousand yards last year seven, Touchdowns SO i, think
BUT i think this is a big year For Jamison.

(39:09):
Williams Kelvin, Ridley Romo dunday finish out the sixth. Round
Travis kelcey starts the seventh, round AND i really want
to kind of pair him up because he goes seven to.
One Mark andrews goes nine dot. Eleven are we seeing
are we seeing the death of some elite tight ends
or have we have we gone too far to the

(39:29):
other side on these. Guys travis seems.

Speaker 2 (39:33):
OKAY i Think andrews has gone too far and then, Nine,
yeah that's too.

Speaker 1 (39:39):
Late.

Speaker 2 (39:40):
Travis i'm okay with going here BECAUSE i don't think
it's a lock that he's gonna lead this team in.
Targets Like i'm high on this Cheaps, wade, Receiving Core, Rashid,
Rice Xavier, Worthy Marquis. Brown they just got to stay.
HEALTHY i think there's a lot of talent and speed
and all of that on this, team But kelsey is
that like underneath target and and. Volume like if you

(40:02):
look at his game logs last, year there was like
three Good fantasy. Games besides, that it was a lot
of single digits and he was in the start of
side and start said a Lot. Andrews THOUGH i Know
ravens fans hate him right now and they walk, Gone
but like he, was he was still really good for
them down the. Stretch he caught a lot of. Touchdowns

(40:22):
he was getting open and. Stuff SO i don't. KNOW
i saw him going the ninth round AND i thought
that was that was kind of.

Speaker 1 (40:28):
Crazy, Yeah i'm with. YOU i Think andrew's at nine
to eleven is too. Far Although i'll say, THIS i
DON'T i don't THINK i want any parts Of Travis
kelcey this. Year father time may not have fully caught
up to, him but he's probably about to tap him
on the. Shoulder LIKE i think this is the last, year,
RIGHT i think this is gotta be like this last

(40:48):
year in THE nfl or last year being fantasy relevant both. Both,
YEAH i mean once he's not in the league, anymore
he's definitely not fantasy. RELEVANT i mean just watching him last,
year you know he's slowing. DOWN i, mean you know
that's not you, know it's not a knock to what
it was saying, Though, dude thirty, five he's gonna turn
thirty six midway through the, season like it just, happens you, Know.

Speaker 3 (41:10):
Yeah and like it's gonna depend on the health of
these you, Know chiefs wide. RECEIVERS i Mean rice is returning,
back AND i Mean Hollywood brown hasn't been exactly the
most healthy wide receiver. EVER i think the last time
you had a healthy, season he was wearing black and.
Purple he was with The. Ravens so it's, like all,
right you're gonna need another you know body, there familiar,
Face AND i feel like there could be some games
that you could sprinkle in some fantasy relevant games With

(41:33):
Travis kelcey as you're tight end one Where i'm happy
with ten. Points IF i have a tight, END i
don't care who it. Is you give me ten points On, sunday.

Speaker 1 (41:40):
You're good in my.

Speaker 3 (41:41):
Book anything less all, right you gotta go in the, wire,
BRO i can't mess with. You BUT i feel like
the situation being that it is The, chiefs It's, mahomes
It's Travis, Kelce you're gonna find some type of you,
know fantasy relevance out of.

Speaker 2 (41:52):
Them.

Speaker 1 (41:53):
Yeah i'm also, wondering like how long we're gonna go
with the it's The chiefs. Man it's, like you, know
like they got this scrip like last, year like that
wasn't really a good. Excuse midway through this, Season you're,
LIKE i don't, know, man that's not the Same chiefs
as it used to. Be SO i don't.

Speaker 2 (42:10):
Know they need that speed and they got.

Speaker 1 (42:13):
It they do have. Speed they. Do they need to
keep the speed. Healthy it's kind of what they need
to do. Now rest of the seventh, Round Kobe myers
go seven. TOO i Took Aaron. JONES i JUST i don't.
KNOW i feel like he's being underrated because Like, Mason, okay,

(42:35):
yeah they have they Have Jordan mason, there, Yay LIKE
i still think this is gonna be Mostly Aaron jones,
GUY i, know was like A Jordan mason, drafter LIKE
i Drafted Jordan mason IF i Drafted christian McCaffrey BECAUSE
i just wanted the. Handcuff i'm not out, here like you,
know telling you That Jordan mason gonna kick down the

(42:55):
door and just take. Over AND i don't think that's
gonna happen In minnesota. Either LIKE i think it's Sill
Aaron jones. Backfield there's a reason they brought him. Back you,
know he was good for him last. Year but we
just Your army. Three i'm NOT rb.

Speaker 3 (43:07):
Three, look we just Saw Aaron jones at the talent boot.
Camp he's worried about after, Football SO i think they
understand that he's a great, guy great. Personality he's coming
in to be a guy to hand the keys To Jordan,
mason and it can happen this.

Speaker 2 (43:22):
Season.

Speaker 3 (43:23):
Man i'm telling you he's up there in age as.
Well when we have the same ideology with all these
rest of the running. Backs Like i'm telling you, now,
man you're gonna regret. It you're gonna regret. It Jordan
mason is going to be A rb one by week,
Eight army ONE rb.

Speaker 1 (43:38):
One like like THE rb one of The vikings or
a FANTASY rb.

Speaker 3 (43:42):
One Vikings Vikings biking was.

Speaker 1 (43:45):
INJURED i just got to make, sure, man like you
think you can fight, kangaroo SO i gotta make sure
we're clear on what things are.

Speaker 3 (43:50):
You saying injury or do you think he steals injury efficiency? Everything,
MAN i do think like they built up on the old,
line But Aaron jones is Not Aaron jones of what
we saw in the a a good season last, year
that's in the. Past going into this, season you bring a,
heavy a, heavy basically, hungry motivated running back that wants
to make a name for. Herself and everything he displayed

(44:11):
In San francisco WAS i can be AN rb one
and you have, that and they.

Speaker 1 (44:16):
Let him walk out And james and they and they
let him WALK i mean it's.

Speaker 3 (44:25):
Too, pricey, man pricey to put that dinner on and keep, him,
RIGHT i, mean you you get value at him and
trade him and you draft his, doppelganger which was an
upgrade In Jordan.

Speaker 1 (44:34):
James all, right all, Right uh SO i TOOK i
Took Aaron jones, Anyway my takeaway is.

Speaker 2 (44:40):
Like the, fourth, fifth, sixth seventh, round every best value
THAT i feel like is that is running back sot
her wide receivers.

Speaker 1 (44:48):
Early, YEAH i did see his question in the chats
go back a little, Bit Sarah christine wants to know
what we think ABOUT Dk mettcalf this. Season just LIKE i,
SAID i don't really want any parts of The. SAINTS
i don't. KNOW i just th the quarterback situation In
pittsburgh scares me THAT i just don't really want to.
It It's Aaron. Rodgers are you in?

Speaker 3 (45:06):
Though just a little.

Speaker 1 (45:07):
Bit, NO i Took.

Speaker 2 (45:09):
Brandon ayuk over, him WHICH i went back and forth,
on LIKE i KEPT dk was the highest ranked wide
receiver AND i was, like it's it's fair value like
and THEN i was just, like, NO i. DON'T i
don't want him because, one he'll give me three good
games a year and then and even but With Aaron,
Rodgers Like Aaron rodgers wasn't thrown downfield last, Year SO

(45:31):
i don't.

Speaker 1 (45:32):
Know, yeah, YEAH i, yeah that doesn't change anything for
me at. All the rest of the seventh, round After Aaron,
Jones Tyrone tracy And Ajie, harris explain your Bon knicks
pick to.

Speaker 3 (45:42):
Me oh my, god, LISTEN i was, saying my, cue
this was supposed to be The Tony polar, pick AND
i ended up basically goofing the, pick and like AS
i was saying in a, queue it was my, turn
and Bow knicks went off the.

Speaker 2 (45:56):
Board but just going on to.

Speaker 1 (45:59):
It it's just funny because it's just it was such
a it's such A u. Pick Whatever Tony pollard goes
right after, that WHICH i guess was the guy you
were trying to Pick Baker mayfield at the seven. Eight
so Then Patrick mahomes is THE qb eight off the
board going Behind baker MAY i. GUESS i guess we

(46:21):
can call him THE qb seven, TECHNICALLY i, guess since
you didn't really need to pick Bow. Knicks but either,
way he comes off the board After Baker. Mayfield, Uh
i'm sure he.

Speaker 3 (46:33):
Would have still been, that not like somebody else would
have probably took bow after.

Speaker 1 (46:36):
That you think somebody would taking Bon nicks ahead Of
Patrick mahomes, though, YES i would. HAVE i would.

Speaker 3 (46:41):
Have this was a real pick IF i didn't Take
burrow in the, fifth which was great value for, me
by the, WAY i would have took Bo here instead
Over Patrick. MAHOMES i, mean you guys don't deserve bow knicks.
Anyway you guys weren't, Believers, like what.

Speaker 1 (46:52):
Do you MEAN i was on this show before. Anybody
what are we talking? About not you.

Speaker 3 (46:58):
Guys But i'm just saying the rest of the, drafters
in the rest of the fantasy, streets Like i'm Taking homes,
HERE i.

Speaker 2 (47:06):
Think It's i'm Taking. Mahomes it's close either.

Speaker 1 (47:09):
Way we either way we split, it it's. CLOSED i
don't think it's that clear cut that you're Taking nicks Over.

Speaker 2 (47:14):
Mahomes my my argument For mahomes, IS i understand the
last two years has been, bad but once you get
past the top five, quarterbacks there's such a big group
of qbs that IF I i'm looking for ceiling BECAUSE
i could find floor in the fifteenth, ROUND i Got
Matt stafford last pick for, you Lakwan, oh because the,

(47:37):
floor Like Dak prescott was. Available like the, floor you
could get a floor. Quarterback So i'm looking for, ceiling
AND i don't think there's a single quarterback in that
group that has a higher like we've Seen Patrick mahomes
not only finish AS qb, one we've seen him put
up the Most fantasy points Until lamar broke it this
past year that A qb has ever.

Speaker 1 (47:55):
Scored, so, LIKE i, know.

Speaker 2 (47:57):
He hasn't been that guy the last two year, years
but that's still in his. Reign like he's still extremely.
Talented he just they need to start let him air
the ball out. More he had the lowest air yards
per attempt last, season BUT i think that's more because
of who he was throwing it to and who was.
Healthy and if these speedy guys are healthy and out,
there we're gonna get the deep ball back For.

Speaker 1 (48:17):
Mahomes, Yeah AND i think we saw it early last year,
too right when they were trying to work IN i
Know Xavier worthy didn't AND i think they were sort
of adjusting his role kind of as the season went.
Along we saw them take those shots down.

Speaker 2 (48:29):
Shit sixty yard touchdown pass and The Super bowl is
one of the Crazy LIKE i, know they were down
forty eight points at that, point so no one cares about,
it but it's one of the craziest throws and it
reminds me of like what This chiefs offense still can Be.

Speaker 1 (48:43):
Yeah that's. True so After, mahomes by the, WAY i
think we're gonna end up Arguing Nixon mahomes again at
some point before the Summers, mahomes Kyler, bury Then. Florida
you Took. Deandres this is another you, know this is Another,
florio Vintage florio Run Deandres swift at the two round,
Seven Justin field started round. Eight i'm, like, yep that's

(49:03):
one hundred percent, right because LIKE i, WAS i was
sort of with, you LIKE i was doing THINGS i would,
like you, Know i'd put the phone down And i'd
come back to. IT i was, like, oh, yeah that's
that's that. Tracks Justin, FIELDS i talked.

Speaker 2 (49:13):
About these guys a, Lot but same logic With mahomes
is With, fields, right, Like i'm going for upside in
this range AT qb AND i don't think there's A
qb left on the board at that point that had
upside of that.

Speaker 3 (49:24):
Workout he saw that workout. Video Justin fields And Garrett wilson.
Yesterday i'm gonna be the high guy On.

Speaker 1 (49:31):
FIELDS i already know probably will be probably the rest
of round eight came. Up johnson goes, Second Matthew golden
goes eight. THREE i think we've ranted enough about The
packers wide. Receivers we're not going to get into that.
Again luquan's favorite tight, End john New smith goes. Fourth George,
Pickens SO Dk METCALF i had Of George. PICKENS i

(49:55):
mean by a good round and a half ahead Of George.
Pickens you, GUYS i don't think there's not only the
gap is that big between the?

Speaker 2 (50:03):
Two oh, yeah, YEAH i THINK dk should go first.

Speaker 1 (50:06):
Though, OKAY i MEAN i THINK i can get down with,
that BUT i just don't think the gap is that.

Speaker 3 (50:10):
BIG i think they should go in the same. Round
like remember that When Cooper cup And Robert woods were
like literally back and back IN, Adp like that's how
it should, be.

Speaker 1 (50:18):
Even those years When metcalf And Tyler lockett were fairly
close to each. OTHER i think IT'S i think it's
something like. That you.

Speaker 2 (50:24):
Know, YEAH i do THINK dk Is Like i'm not
A dk, guy but he's done a lot more in
his career Than George.

Speaker 1 (50:31):
Pickens, yeah, YEAH i.

Speaker 2 (50:34):
Wanted speaking Of, steelers what did you guys think Of
warren going ahead Of Caleb.

Speaker 1 (50:38):
JOHNSON i think it's Because Caleb johnson has gotten the
reputation of Being Najee harris two point. ZERO i THINK
i really. DON'T i think he's just kind of gotten the.
Reputation AND i think people are, Like, okay well we've
seen this. Movie we don't need to see it.

Speaker 2 (50:55):
Again would you Take warren over over?

Speaker 1 (50:57):
Him? Probably? Not no. Insanity, well and then just you,
know it's the whole you, know shiny new toy theory
right that That.

Speaker 3 (51:12):
Arthur smith is over, THERE i mean one of the
most hated twenty twenty Three fantasy.

Speaker 2 (51:17):
Football.

Speaker 1 (51:17):
UH i, mean if we're using, that then whatever whichever
guy you pick is going to be the wrong. One
if that's if that's the thought process you have going.

Speaker 3 (51:24):
IN i made a point too yesterday On Blue, sky
like we're so looking at What Arthur smith did With
Bjon robinson was criminal in his like rookie, year like
the limited touches on the goal, line Having Tyler aljeer
just outsnap him in the red, zone like these are
things that he tends to. Do like it's one of
those things like you want the guy to get the max,
touches but it's not going to. Happen and they said

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they look at you, Know Jalen warren as a starting running,
back they look at him as a co. Starter so
we already are getting a little tea leaves of like
this is going to be a split, Backfield like we're
gonna See Caleb johnson get sprinkled in as. Well BUT
i wouldn't take more and over, Him LIKE i just
wouldn't do that just based ON i Think caleb is
overall better as a full runner running that outside zone

(52:08):
scheme With Arthur smith Than Jalen. Moore it's just more
so of like he's gonna be the third down. Back
he's going to be the guy that you dump it off,
to like that's his. Role that's.

Speaker 2 (52:16):
IT i Think johnson will be Like nause in. Usage
the big difference IS i don't Think nase has a
thirty hard run in HIS nfl. Career Caleb johnson's college
is littered with big, plays so and that being the biggest,
Difference like imagine If nase had a couple of breakaway
runs last.

Speaker 1 (52:34):
Season, yeah, YEAH i actually know How lakwan feels About
Caleb johnson so mid to his, game none at. All.
None let's go through the rest of the eighth round
So Shakir laquant Takes Brian, Robinson travis etm goes after,
That Evan ingram at the eight. Nine it's Like 'bondre

(52:57):
stevenson at eight. TEN i don't love, it BUT i
just needed a running back and he was kind of
the GUY i liked the most on the board at that.
Point Juwan, Jennings Deebo samuel go back to. Back just
because we're getting sort of long on this, Thing, Amy
i'll just figure out some of the the interesting landing.
Spots uh the rest of the. Way Cooper cup goes
nine to. One Josh, DOWNS i felt like's good value

(53:20):
at the nine ten.

Speaker 2 (53:22):
SPOT i was Almost Ricky piersoll in that.

Speaker 1 (53:25):
Round so he goes nine to. FOUR i Took jayleen
McMillan ahead of. HIM i was because at that POINT
i was looking at those two. GUYS i was looking
at McMillan or. PEARSALL i Guess Josh downs was sort
of in the mix as. WELL i was kind of
hoping maybe he followed one more, round BUT i wasn't
too sad when he. Didn't this feels like a good,
round a ninth, round tenth round to get some of

(53:47):
those kind of upside wide receivers is WHERE i mean
There's Stefan dick's in that.

Speaker 3 (53:54):
Round, YEAH i, mean Now i'll throw the dice in
a ninth round with a guy like. Him that's.

Speaker 1 (53:59):
True that's.

Speaker 3 (54:00):
True it's nipe.

Speaker 1 (54:01):
Round moving, again Another florio, pick Camp. Scataboo starting the tenth.
ROUND i put in the.

Speaker 2 (54:08):
CHAT i was, LIKE i don't need another running, back
BUT i want this running, back SO i took.

Speaker 1 (54:13):
Him. Yeah, NO i think this was like a you,
know a flex. THING i Camp. Scataboo, There, lakwan you
Took Jack, besh WHO i know you ranted. That, yes
the reason you don't like him is just because he
wasn't a. Ram he's got to be absolutely killer for The.
Raiders you. KNOW i took friend of the program xavierly
get in the in the tenth round as. Well i'm

(54:35):
trusting some other. ONES I Luthor burden goes in the eleventh.
Round Kyle williams goes earlier in the eleventh. ROUND h, See,
florio you took A Mecca abuka at the start of
the TWELFTH i start got to talk about my my
twelfth round, pick Because, lakwan you talked about your whole
mishap With Bo nix And Tony. Pollard in the twelfth,

(54:57):
ROUND i Had Tyler warren And Dylan samson both cued.
Up they're both in my, cube and my plan had
been to Take warren first and then come back and Get.
SAMSON i went on the clock like they were listed
With samson first And warren behind, him and so like
WHEN i went on the, clock just reflex not, THINKING
i just clicked the first DAME i, saw AND i was, like,
oh It's samson and Not. Warren i'm, like but maybe

(55:18):
there's a Chance Tyler warren comes back to me and
he goes one pick ahead of WHERE i was gonna.
Go oh, oh it. Hurt hurt like a, beau like
BECAUSE i know IF i had done it the other,
Way like IF i had Taken warren, First i'm pretty
Sure samson would have been there for me in the thirteenth. Round,
yes BUT i clicked the wrong name and THEN i

(55:39):
ended up losing out On Tyler. Warren so, LIKE i
did spend a good hour after the draft just kicking
myself over that.

Speaker 2 (55:46):
WEEK i did not see this. Title LIKE i looked
at the board and was Like Tyler warren will fall
back to. Me everyone has a tight end, already and
then there was a huge tight end two run and
it hurt me a.

Speaker 1 (55:58):
Lot yeah's a whole lot of things happening at the
tight end spot in the in the twelfth and thirteenth
rounds There Drake may goes thirteen to. Five, lakwan you
Took Jordan james thirteen to, six and Then, florida you
finally get your tight. Ends you Get Hunter henry in the,
Thirteenth Elijah arroyo in the. FOURTEENTH i mean at that

(56:19):
point we were.

Speaker 2 (56:20):
WAITING i waited too.

Speaker 3 (56:21):
Long henry is like a low key like value pick as,
well is, sneaky like he's.

Speaker 1 (56:28):
Not, exciting but you know he'll be that guy that
every week you can get ten to eleven points out
Of Hunter.

Speaker 2 (56:34):
Henry pair him With Tyler warren And i'm happy leaving my.

Speaker 1 (56:38):
Draft, yeah we get a lot of kickers defenses in
the Final auto. Draft did you okay couple in The
in the fifteenth, Round Jayden blue goes fifteen to. TWO
i took your, Boy Damian martinez fifteen to. Three Mason
taylor goes fifteen to. Ten let's See Anthony richardson goes
at the fifteen.

Speaker 3 (56:58):
Eight Mason taylor there too is such a value pick as. Well,
man that's to that last pick for sport.

Speaker 1 (57:05):
Time it's a good question about From carboys Like jade
And blue went in the fifteenth round and no Other
cowboys running back went ahead of. Him oh, NO i,
THOUGHT i, thought you know, What Jonte williams did. Go
Javonte williams went in the tenth. Round, yeah so we
did have one Other. Cowboys, YEAH i GUESS i feel

(57:27):
like it's gonna be underwhelming for all. PARTIES i, realized you, know,
yeah it's. Not it's just gonna be underwhelming for all parties.
Involved you, know we'll we'll, see we'll see just Enough
Miles sanders to irritate.

Speaker 3 (57:41):
US i forgot he was.

Speaker 1 (57:44):
There, yeah just enough to irritate. Us and SO i
think it's what it. IS i think't in In dynasty
These Jayden blue is an interesting and interesting pick in
redraft for not so much any other interesting. THINGS i
did Notice team four. kV He Hate me went true.
ZERO rb waited until the seventh round to Take Tyrone

(58:07):
tracy and then the other running. Backs Jerome ford Bea,
Tooton Trey, Benson Tyler. ALGIER i mean just really a
textbooks Starting, JESUS i mean, run, YEAH i mean to
Start tracy AND i Guess.

Speaker 2 (58:25):
FORD i had a couple of builds like this last
year AND i hated it, because like two in and
guys like, these you're expecting they could break out as
the year goes, on but week one matters the same
as week, fifteen you, know like to make the week
thirteen to make the, playoffs and those first handful of
weeks you're throwing out guys who you just hope get

(58:47):
you ten, points and so you could go this build
but take like one guy early or something like that
so that it just makes life.

Speaker 3 (58:56):
And then do this, yeah or you know WHAT i,
mean because like you starting off owing, four it's hard
to come from back from and you literally have like
a Questionable tracy as YOUR rb, one which we kind
of expects Cam skataboo to make some noise during camp
to actually get some, touches but it's like you have
Dron forward that.

Speaker 1 (59:17):
We don't even know if he might be. Two, yeah
he might be the three they just, invested he might
be your Guy. Kwan.

Speaker 3 (59:25):
Yeah, LOOK i don't, know, Man Trey. Benson, Man i'm
a little sad about his rookie. Year but we'll see
how this year goes, out.

Speaker 1 (59:33):
Though, YEAH i, mean, see, Look James connor is so, steady,
Man he's just he gave us a full, season, guys
like finally he's he's just SO i, mean it's just
so steady that it's just you, know you really are
waiting for. Him you, KNOW i know he's broken down
in the, past but that's really what you. Need, Crazy
i'm not praying on his, downfall but that's sort of
what ZERO rb. Is you kind of are praying on

(59:55):
somebody's downfall in order to get your, guys get your opportunities.
In for the other things that sort of jumped out of,
Me i'm not convinced That Adam pfeiffer is not A
Mike Florio burner because we like a lot of the
same guys loaded up On bills. Too he Takes James,
cook he's a Fellow bills. Fan, okay, well there you.
Go he Took James Ray, Davis Dalton. Kincaid give that's.

(01:00:19):
It SO i why he drafted in front of.

Speaker 2 (01:00:21):
You the funny part was when he Took. KINCAID i
got a little sad BECAUSE i needed a tight end pretty.
Badly but then my second thought was IF i would
have took, him you guys would have roasted.

Speaker 1 (01:00:33):
ME i would.

Speaker 2 (01:00:34):
Have it was conflicting thoughts in my, head LIKE i
KNOW i need a tight, end but DO i want
to do? This BECAUSE i mean.

Speaker 1 (01:00:44):
Because like you, know In, february you were ready to
Put Dalton kinkaid in a shopping cart and roll him
down the biggest till you could, find you, know like
that's what it. Was so, yes you would have heard
about it if you drafted. Him all, Right so interesting
IF i were a different person in a different, Time
i'll go back and sort of compare and contrast some

(01:01:04):
of the guys who rose and. Fell you, know that'll
be worth go to diving into and talking about as.
Well but, good good. DRAFT i, think thanks everybody who
jumped in and participated on.

Speaker 2 (01:01:14):
This hold, Up, marcus what we are not ending just
yet Because MG's birthday and he is our fearless leader
on this, Show so happy. BIRTHDAY. Mg you're a mentor to,
me To La, kwan to so many other people in this,
building and and everything that you do for the show and.
Everything h the sports world, complied they gave you the day,

(01:01:38):
off No, warriors No dodgers to enjoy it With jesse AND.
Q AND i just hope you have a great. Day.
Man you deserve.

Speaker 1 (01:01:44):
It thank. YOU i appreciate. IT i appreciate, it. Guys,
yeah is the another year around the. Sun i'm getting
getting closer to half a, Hundred BUT i appreciate.

Speaker 2 (01:01:55):
It are you going out like like because you like
to go out like take your help on a?

Speaker 1 (01:02:00):
Meal? Right, Yeah so don't you, KNOW i don't know
what to. DO i may go and you, KNOW I
i have a limited amount of window this, afternoon BUT i.
MAY i may go grab a, meal go hit the
comic book store something like that BEFORE i have to
go back and do dad stuff in the. Afternoon but thank.
YOU i appreciate, it guys for. Sure all, right thanks
everybody who jumped in on the first of, all will

(01:02:21):
hopefully be a number of cheat sheets as we go
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