Marcas Grant, Michael F. Florio, and LaQuan Jones return with another jam-packed episode of the Fantasy Cheat Sheet livestream! They kick things off with a recap of Florio’s trip to Indianapolis and weigh in on the idea of NFL players competing in the 2028 Olympics. (1:10)
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Wow y, look at that.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
And welcome to an edition of the cheat Sheet. We
were in the middle of a business. We were talking
talking business here I did a business. Welcome to another
edition of the Fantasy cheat Sheet. I am Marcus granduated
by Michael F. Florio and Mkwan Jones. We are almost
out of the month of May. This will be our
last us, our last show right in the month of May.
And yes it is.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
That doesn't that doesn't really work.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
June gloom is on the way.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Yeah, you know, we got plenty to talk about. We
got a little some some questions, some stories. I'm calling
it something or nothing. We'll decide whether or not these
stories are actually worthwhile or if this is just the
sort of chatter that we get this time of the year.
And then for the film festival today, we're gonna watch
we did watch Extraction. We'll talk about that with Chris.
(00:59):
Him's worth.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
I want to start the Flooria, because you you.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Took a sojourn over the over the weekend, I guess
earlier in the week I don't even.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Know what date is anymore.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
Me neither.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
You went to Indianapolis to watch the New York Knicks
against the Pacers.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
We won't. We won't rehash the game, but I do
want to, you know, talk about your experience in Indianapolis.
What was it like? I know you had never been
to Indie before.
Speaker 4 (01:20):
No, and I probably never will be again. I feel like,
you know, like I I unless the Knicks are back
there next year or something like that, I don't. I
don't or combine something like that. I don't as foresee
myself taking another vacation there. The people were really nice
until after the game, and then they they were they
(01:41):
were chirping, and you know, myself, being a New Yorker,
I have to chirp back. Like course, me and my
me and my friend were like, look, if they say
Pacers in five, cool, like they earned the right to
say that. But when they start saying stuff about New
York and stuff like that, That's when I'm like, you
live in Indiana, Like, yes, this one out, but yeah,
Like I had a lot of fun. The travel was awful,
(02:03):
Like it's a blur. I the last three days I
was in the air more than I was in Indiana.
But Nixon seven, baby, I have convinced myself that they
are winning tonight and they are taking this series.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Well.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
The downside about that is the Minnesota Timberwolves are out
because I was hoping for a knicksed t Wolve series
since those two teams made a big trade at the
start of the year with Julius Randall and Dante DiVincenzo
going over to Minnesota Karl Anthony Towns coming back the
other way. Like, it would have been cool to see
them finally meet up in the finals after this, because
(02:36):
you don't see that, right, two teams make it a
big deal with each other and then playing for a
championship against one another. So that would have been fun.
But the Oklahoma City Thunders said no, we don't want
to be a part of that.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
They're gonna be big favorites regardless.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Of who comes out of the Yeah, I think so.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
I think this is the year that we all got
to know how good the OKC thunder are. And you know,
they look like they could be a problem for it,
like ten draft picks these next couple years. I know,
you can be a problem for a while. Here's the thing,
and you shout out to the Clippers for basically, uh,
you're gifting the thunder kind of what they are right
now here.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
Here's my fun fact if look, it's gonna be Nick's thunder,
but if it's Pacers thunder. Both of those teams were
built off of trading Paul George.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
Oh yeah, interesting fans.
Speaker 4 (03:26):
Maybe you have hope after all, maybe one of.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Them can give one of them you give Paul.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
George's still trusting the process.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
No, I think they've give it up.
Speaker 4 (03:34):
I don't want to give. I don't know his name,
but there's one Philly fan that after every Nick game,
every Nick lost, When the Knicks win, he doesn't say
a word, but when the Knicks lose, he like jumps
in my mentions and stuff. And I'm like, you trusted
the process for years, and the mixer further than Embid
has ever taken you, guys, take this one out and
ended your season last year, invaded your home and made you,
(03:56):
guys a broken team, Like get out of here with
the Philly stuff.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
That's funny.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
I love Florio's passion. That's so funny.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
I was gonna do something or nothing.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
We'll still do something or nothing, but there was something
that popped up that I wanted to get to first.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
It's not on the rundowns. I'm going off menu a
little bit.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
You guys saw that it's opened up now in the
Olympics that NFL players are going to be eligible to
play in flag football, and some of the flag football
greats are a little bit bent about that, right because
flag football and tackle football are two very different sports.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
The flag football guys.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Are saying they were hoping they would get the chance
to compete in men and women, they would get the
chance to compete over you know, having just tried to
beat out say Lamar Jackson and something like that. Your
thoughts on that, Lakwan, I mean, I feel like flag
and tackle obviously are very different games. Personally, I would
(04:53):
like to see the flag football guys out there. I
don't know how you feel about it.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
I say, mix it, like just kind of have it
to together and have like a big depth chart of
flag football professionals and some of the NFL professionals, and like,
I would love to see like one of the best,
you know, flag football quarterbacks throwing a deep bomb to
Tyreek Hill. That'd be like a dream to them. Like,
I kind of just want them to be together in
this because I think it would be very entertaining if
(05:19):
we have like a Tyreek Hill, a Patrick Mahomes out
there throwing to these like professional flag football wide receivers,
you know, Like, I think there's an opportunity there that
they could be mixed together.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
I mean, Flora your thoughts on this.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
I would like to see it mixed, but I more
than anything, they need to do a good job of
picking the NF. Like I don't want to see Patrick
Mahomes out there. I don't want to see like Josh Allen,
no offense to him. I want to see if you
go with anyone, it should be like Lamar Jackson or
Jayden Daniels. And for running backs it's like Jamiir Gibbs
and Bjehn Robinson because who cares if you can break tackles.
(05:56):
You don't have to break tackles in flag football. You
need to be like and make people so like that's
what we like. Caleb Johnson would be awful in flag
football right through you right like like you need.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
And it's funny.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
I never played like high football or whatever, but like
I played, there was a friend in our neighborhood that
was like awesome at tackle football, and then when we
got older and we started playing flag like he was
awful because he was just like I can't lower my
shoulder and just run through people, so like it's a
completely different game in a different skill set.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Yeah, Derrick Henry not a good flag option, No, no, no,
But yeah, Jimi or Gibbs would be kind of interesting.
Tyreek Hill, he could just run past you. That would
be sort of interesting. So I'm curious. I would like
to see the actual flag football players get an opportunity.
Part because it's different, but also because for me, some
(06:47):
of the fun of the Olympics is seeing people whose
names we don't normally know and watching them become stars,
and watching them become celebrities, like these are people who
train really hard at their particular sport and we don't
really hear about them, you know, but once every four years.
I think that's kind of cool to give those people
their moment, And so I would certainly like to see that.
(07:10):
But look, man, I get it, Tyson make it a
good point. I think the NFL players can definitely play
flag easily, definitely have to look at rules, but less
contact is like a dream for NFL players.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
That's true.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
We have a Pro Bowl game. They'll be lazy.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
If there is a scary thought of like say like
I said, I don't want mahomes allan. But like those
guys just dropping back and like keeving it downfield to
the fastest wide receivers in the NFL, just like four
times every drive. Eventually one of them are going to connect, right, Like.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Yeah, you could think so, which, by the way, I
don't know if you guys saw this. Tom Brady says
he's considering unretiring so he could play in the Olympics.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
He would be awful.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
He can't move. He could, he could barely move in
his prime.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
He can move.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
I don't know because he might make because you saw
that toss he had with the Super Bowl trophy that
wasn't great.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
I'm just got the.
Speaker 4 (08:07):
Arm talent still, but he's not going to be making
people miss as they're trying to rip that flag from him.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Right. That's the thing.
Speaker 4 (08:13):
You don't have five big dudes blocked. Blitz blitz.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
That's the thing I got to learn.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
There's there's gonna be some kind of rules about rushing
the quarterback, but you know, you don't have five guys
standing there blocking for you, right. You don't have grunk
as an outlet. Uh, it's a different world out there
when you're playing.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
I played in a flag league once and there were
offensive defensive linemen and it was like what are we doing?
Speaker 3 (08:36):
Like you guys are just standing there for a while, Like, yeah,
linebacker and slot for the flag football team that I
played for shot out to the pigs.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
I'm like having a having an being an offensive lineman
on a flag football team feels like.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
Yeah, why are you wearing a flag?
Speaker 4 (08:57):
It was like four seconds before you were allowed to
rush or something.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Yeah, like that's.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
That's fair, that's fair. I mean you wait two and touch.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
I mean you have to count, like I think we
kind of like ten alligators or twelve dots something like that.
You know, like, yeah, I count you one alligator, two,
alligator three, alligator four? You know how you count alligators?
And then like at ten alligators you can rush.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
The Mississippi No one, Mississippi No.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Two. Sure you could count.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
We had had like different you know, like it was
like ten alligators. I think it's like eight Mississippis or
twelve dots like whatever it was.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
But you have to pick your thing.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
You have to count that and then when you hit
that number, you were able to rush and you had
one blitz for every four downs everything everyone.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
Alligators, Yeah, alligators, this is for you. I don't know
a whole.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
Mile to be a Florida thing if you're saying alligators.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
I never I never really thought of that, Like, it
never really crossed my mind.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
We just like we started playing my buddies like count
ten alligators, and I'm like, all right, that's just what
it was. So I would never really thought about that.
And then, like I said, you could use your blitz.
You could hold your blitz, maybe the blitz on first down,
but then you didn't have one until either they gave
the ball up or they got a first down, and
you could you know, you could blitz again at some point.
So yeah, yeah, like I mean, as soon as they
(10:12):
snapped the ball, you had to yell blitz.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
You couldn't just run like you have to.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Game is going to be at so Far, No, I
believe they're going to do because I think swimming is
at so Fi.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
Yeah, yeah, I thought we talked about this.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
I hope they have not destroyed the field, man, don't
be me.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
They're going to do swimming at so Far. So.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
I believe flag football is going to be at Bemo Stadium,
which is the home of l a f C And
Angel City Football Club. That makes sense. I mean, you
don't need as big a field for flag football.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
I know what, I know, we're three years away. I'm
not leaving my house when the Olympics are going on.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
I'm I'm super excited about the Olympics. I want to
go to the opening ceremonies.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
I want some stuff.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
But the other part of this, by the way, well
I'll say I'll say a couple of things, and I
know we weren't. This has gotten deeper than I had
intended the talk good. Two things about this. One, I
know people who were in Los Angeles who lived here
in nineteen eighty four, the last time the Olympics came
to LA and that was the original consensus was like
(11:16):
it's going to be a disaster. But everybody said it
turned out to be a really great, positive experience. They
were really glad that they lived here when it happened,
so that was good. The other part of it is
the idea for this Olympics in twenty twenty eight is
that it's going to be all public transportation. That they're
not going to they're not going to have like a
lot of parking, and they want this to be so
they say they got they got three years.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
They have three years to figure this out.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Get it done, that this is going to be the
public transportation Olympics.
Speaker 4 (11:41):
I will say I loved when the super Bowl was
in LA. There was just a vibe that whole week
in this city. And maybe it's because of where we
work and we're so in you know, the super Bowl
and stuff like that, but that week was one of
the funnest weeks I've lived in LA. Like there's an
event going on in different all different areas of the city.
There was a lot like it was a really cool time.
(12:01):
So maybe I'm just not looking forward to the traffic
for the Olympics, but I am excited to go to
like a basketball game or something.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
I mean, I would stay away from Lax, go anywhere
near that.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
I don't go in here that place unless I have
to anyway, but I would definitely stay away from from
Lax for sure.
Speaker 5 (12:17):
Ah.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
That was That's our Olympics take now until something else
happened it we'll have more. It's late in May, right,
there's not a lot of actual news out there, but
you know, stories pop up, you see quotes, you hear,
you hear, interviews, what have you. And it was good
for me to kind of go through and look at
some of these things and we can all decide whether
(12:40):
or not what you read or hear is something or
if it's nothing. And we're just talking in late May.
So I got three stories here we can dive into
the first one. Shadure Sanders Dylan Gabriel say they are
making the most of an unexpected situation. Obviously, we were
all surprised to see Dylan Gabriel get drafted ahead of
Shador Sanders, and more surprised when the Browns turned around
(13:02):
a round or two later and took Shador Sanders. On
top of that, they say they are cool with each other,
that the experience has been pretty good. That they're just
out there competing to see who can be the starter Florida.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
Is this something or is this nothing?
Speaker 2 (13:17):
I think, especially when it comes to Dylan Gabriel getting
a shot at the starting.
Speaker 4 (13:21):
Job, I think it's something in this sense of I like, look,
my read of my opinion on this situation is like
Joe Flacco probably starts the year. I wouldn't be surprised
if three four quarterbacks start games for the Browns this year.
I do think Sanders gets an opportunity at some point,
but it's something in the sense of like they are
(13:41):
going to get to compete first, Like the job is
open right now, you know, like if one of these
guys runs away with it, they have every opportunity to do.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
So.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
What I think is nothing, though, is like yesterday we're
seeing ESPN Cleveland like tweet out how many passes they
age competed on, how many what like that. I don't
care about. It's it's may this is their first taste
in the NFL all of that. The other thing though,
that I do think matters a bit, and I think
(14:10):
it only matters because he fell in the draft, is
we're already seeing reporters be like, how is sha Door
Sanders looking? Is he going to be your starter? Stuff
like that. The Browns are gonna have to answer those
questions all year long, all summer, all season, And that
is why he fell to the fifth round because people
didn't want to You deal with this if you think
he is a top two pick, like we like was projected,
(14:33):
but if you don't think he is your starter, you
don't really want to have to answer all these questions.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Now, Yeah, I mean, you don't want to have to
answer all those questions.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
But I think if you're the Browns, and you're the
Browns with the quarterback room that you currently have, it
didn't matter when you took him, you were gonna have
to answer those questions.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
Right.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
It's not like he went to a team that had
an established starter and you know you're looking at it
where like, Okay, he's gonna be a backup for a year,
you know, until they like, okay, look if he'd gone
to id even say like Seattle, right, Like, I get it.
Sam Donald is not the long term answer necessarily for
the Seahawks, but he played well enough last year that
(15:12):
you feel like, Okay, Sam Donald's probably going to be
the starter unless Sudur is absolutely amazing. So you don't
get as many of those questions when your quarterback room
is Joe Flacco and Kenny Pickett and a rehabbing Deshaun
Watson who's been terrible the last couple of years, like
you could have. You could have taken Shuduur as an
undrafted free agent. We're ever gonna hear those questions like you.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
Were you were.
Speaker 4 (15:35):
Apparently fans are pushing for Milroe to start like that's
just crazy. Yeah, that's cue Sam Donald.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
Yeah, like you don't know what you've got yet, Like
that's insane because I saw those tweets as well, Like
I'm just like Seattle, you guys are kind of crazy
right now, not wanting to see what Sam Donald goes
out there and do, like you got Cooper Cup JSN.
You know you got the bag there with some people,
So that's crazy. That didn't answer that.
Speaker 4 (16:01):
Did you see a tweet from Seattle yesterday?
Speaker 5 (16:04):
No?
Speaker 3 (16:05):
I didn't, and we're not going to speak on that.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
Oh that sweet.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
See how he's trying to turn the knife like I
said his name it was.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
There was a sweet There was a tweet with Cooper
Cup sporting the blue and green with fat like I
can I can see, I can see how your previous
breakups went. You know, it's just just trash talking people
all the time.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
Like he looked, you know, it looked like a nice fit.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
Uh. You know, we'll see what he plays like. But
at least you know you look good in the uniform.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
No, he didn't.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
He looks horrendous. I don't even know why he put that.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
Well, you upset, you guys released him.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
You let him go, run off to the sun, retires
of Ram and just end your career like you go
to the opts, you go within the division. That's even
more disgusting than we had to meet on you every year.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
You let him go. That's the risk you run.
Speaker 5 (16:59):
Man.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
Man, they're going to finish like third, you know, above
the forty nine ers. So we call it today the.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
Third above the forty. Like, I love how you just
find a way to get a shot at everything.
Speaker 4 (17:11):
Wait, so you have the Cardinals the Cardinals second.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
Okay, yeah, yeah, I mean that's not a hate, that's
that's just not a spie. That's not any real analysis.
That's just spite.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
Is all that is.
Speaker 4 (17:25):
That you guys dislike the least in the division because
they haven't.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
Really I mean like like the little brother like annoys,
you like, all right, get out of here.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
Yeah, I legitimately don't really think about the.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
Like when they're playing the game, Like when they're with
the Rams playing the game, they had the controller unplugged. Game,
We're good to go.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
I mean, it really is.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
It's kind of the Don Draper, like I don't think
about you at all, like.
Speaker 4 (17:50):
Like the fans, so I don't even know who you are.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Like every once in a while they rise up and
they win, they win a few games here and there,
like it happens like you know, but I mean, the
Cardinals have not been a serious threat to anybody in
the division.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
Yeah, there it is.
Speaker 5 (18:05):
It is.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
We should just put like a Cardinal logo up top,
and they just put like the other three logos of
the NFC West like down below, right, put ram Seahawks
forty nine ers down below.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
I love you know.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
That really is how it is.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Shout out together for being quick on the draw that
one as well. I mean, lukwan though your thought, I
mean on on Shrudur and Dylan Gabriel, Like is this
really going to be a competition, I should is Shaudur
standers in competition with Dylan Gabriel or seeing competition with
like Flacco and Picket.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
I think Shrador's in competition with Blaco and Pickett, to
be honest, because Kenny Pickett just was reported taking you know,
snaps with the ones, so it's looking like, you know,
Kenny is going to be the guy they're going to
test out first they see what goes on. I mean, look,
Joe Flacco I'm surprised that, you know.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
The Brown champion Joe Flacco is mister Stamford's new jersey
a Pickett and.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
Yeah, oh Jersey boys.
Speaker 4 (18:59):
Let's go at least one of those guys played in
the Super Villa.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
One of them actually had something to do with their
team super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
One of them are elite. We could stamp him a
leite now, but I honestly think, you know, he's more
so like Shador's competing with the two guys that one
they traded for and signed for, Dylan Gabriel. He's going
to be an investment for the future. I think he's
going to be there. I honestly think they ride, you know,
with three quarterbacks this season in trade one. And look,
we already know the Steelers they're they're on the on
(19:27):
the freaking cuss. So basically just walking away from Aaron Rodgers,
wouldn't be surprised they make a move for it. Joe Flacco,
like I will honestly want that move to happen rather
than going to the season with Mason Rudolph. So one
of these quarterbacks are going to be on the move.
So I think it might end up being Pickets, shaudor
in Dylan Gabriel and Watson.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
Unfortunately, if I am an NFL team, I am not
giving up legal American tender for Joe Flacco. I'm not
giving up actual assets and for.
Speaker 4 (19:53):
Sure Browns, I'm like, we need a veteran here, right
to teach these young.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
Guys, your veterans. Kenny Pickett, who's taken reps with the
Ones right now. I mean, honestly, it doesn't sound like
look like yeah, yeah, I mean he is a veteran
by criteria. Now, No, I mean he's been in the
league a while.
Speaker 4 (20:13):
He doesn't have the experience of a Flacco though, No, No,
like what teach teach these.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
Guys a little something? Maybe Joe Flacco. Man, he's there
for the vibes, man, I mean, he's good with being
on the move.
Speaker 4 (20:25):
The better fit for him than backing up Anthony Richardson.
I'll tell you that bro with the Steelers will be magical. Honestly, Like,
I just want to see it, like it just needs
to happen. I mean, he's just gonna bounce around the
entire division.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
Let's do it.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
I mean seriously, like I'm still stuck on you calling
Kimmy padit Pickett of I mean, he is a veteran,
but like so is so is Nathan Peterman.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
Like what are we doing like.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
Veterans of all veterans for bad reasons?
Speaker 1 (20:54):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Yeah, So anyway, there will still be questions answered. We're
gonna go through this. We're gonna get you know, videos
and stats. By the way, you talked about the passing
numbers for practice for the Breath. I saw that for
the Giants too. I think I saw some like Jameis
Winston passing number and like that was my thought too,
(21:15):
Like I didn't even bother to like actually intake what
it was.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
I saw it. I looked at it, and I'm like, no, apparently.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
Winston threw a dime. This came scataboo in the end zone.
So that's pretty cool, man.
Speaker 4 (21:26):
That's what I'm sad because I don't think there's a
realistic shot that we see James this year. No, you
don't think so, because if they move on from RUSS,
I feel like they're seasons in free fall and they're
gonna go to.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
So I just play Jackson Dart.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
Yeah, I was about to say Dart in November.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
I don't know, just because have you seen the Giant schedule.
It is brutal to the point that like, where do
you throw Jackson Dart in there?
Speaker 1 (21:53):
Right?
Speaker 2 (21:53):
Because you start with the Commanders, you got the Cowboys, Chiefs, Chargers,
what the Saints. But that's so early in the season,
that's still early October. You're probably not gonna play him there.
Then you have the Eagles, Broncos, Eagles right in the
middle of the season. Right after that, you got the
forty nine Ers. Uh maybe stop, you got you got
(22:17):
the you got the Bears, maybe maybe the Bears of
the week after possibly, but.
Speaker 4 (22:21):
You get Packers, Lions, Packers, Lions.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
I mean, so what maybe maybe the maybe we see
Jackson Dart against the Patriots December.
Speaker 4 (22:29):
First, the schedule makers were like, yo, let's just run
these giants NFC North games just one after the other.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
Let's just like, we're gonna get them about the paint early,
so we don't have to worry about it. We'll just
get about the paint early and it'll be done. So
I just I think it's gonna be hard for him
to find a place to put Dart in without him
getting just clobbered somewhere.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
I kind of wish again this year.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
Aren't they they're doing in season.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
Season, that's what we wanted.
Speaker 4 (22:59):
Maybe let's go.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
It's it's the NFC East doing which, by the way,
like how salty were the Giants that they're like, we
got to do this again, like we like we did
we did pre seeds, we had off season hard knocks
and we got hammered for it. Now they're making us
do this again in season when likely our season is
going to be up in flames.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
Like they're gonna get to of all those teams, probably.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
No way. They got Winston the personalities in that room.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
Yes, but they'll give them a lot of.
Speaker 4 (23:29):
Time early on and then towards the end it'll just
be like all Eagles.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
But look, I mean they're yeah, because like they also
have the defending Super Bowl champions. They've got, you know,
the Commanders who were in the NFC Championship game and
have one of the great the good young quarterbacks in
the league. And you got the Cowboys, who are the Cowboys,
you know what I'm saying. So, yeah, it's a.
Speaker 4 (23:48):
Good division because the bat the two bad teams have
the biggest fan bases. So it's a good, good pick
for the NFL's sake.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
For the NFL.
Speaker 4 (23:57):
Not for the Giants fan No.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
Next one on something or nothing.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
Travis Hunter reportedly will not practice on both sides of
the ball during the same OTA session, which is to say,
in one session he will play offense, in one session
he will play defense. In fact, if you caught the
Move the Sticks podcast, Daniel Jeremiah Bucky Brooks talked a
little bit about this, and Bucky had some thoughts on
what he expects to see from Travis Hunter.
Speaker 4 (24:23):
What is the early thoughts there on what you seen
from Travis Hunter.
Speaker 5 (24:26):
The early player right now is he's an offensive player
who also has defensive obligations. Mean he's going to start
on offense and then he's going to be a situational
player on defense. So from a practice schedule, standpoint three
days of offense, one day at defense.
Speaker 4 (24:41):
Give me that skill position group, what's that look like?
Speaker 5 (24:44):
DJ, I think it's gonna be very, very reminiscent to
what the Rams did early in Sean mcvay's tenure. I
want you to go back to when it was Robert Woods,
Brandon Cook's Cooper Cup and how they were fast and
dynamic and really trying to stretch the field but then
being able to dump it off. I think it's going
to be that version Toami Brown, Ryan Thomas Junior, Travis Hunter,
(25:05):
you're here, Breton Strange name come in there as to
tie end one. Parker Washington will play a big role,
Travis Atien. There's some conversation about wave Fisen and y'all
to the Rioky from Virginia tech kepne on him.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
All right, So Bucky going through.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
By the way, it was funny because Floorial pointed this
out before the show. Bucky dropped Theammy Brown's name before
Thomas Junior. Probably not the way most fantasy folks haven't
drawn up, but that's that's kind of what it is.
But I mean, you want to ask you about this
thing about him only playing one side of the ball
during OTAs you know, we sort of heard Liam Cohen
talk about what their expectations, what their plans are for him.
(25:44):
But this this OTA usage, Lakwan, is this something or nothing?
Speaker 3 (25:49):
This is nothing. I think this is what we expected,
you know, for them to do, to play him on
both sides of the ball. They don't want to tire
him out, you know, just having him on one side
of the ball, and he needs to process all this
stuff as well. So I think they're playing it right,
and I think that would be more so translated into
the season with him kind of being put in on
defense on certain packages, put in defense in certain crucial moments,
(26:11):
maybe in the red zone, like we'll see him play,
you know, some defense, Like I don't expect him to
play over like forty percent of the snaps on defense,
you know, when it comes to the season, that's a
lot still. So I think more so they're gonna be
looking at him as a offensive weapon and we're gonna
see that, you know, and that's going to translate for fantasy.
Speaker 4 (26:29):
I think it's a huge something.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
Oh you think it's something, all right?
Speaker 4 (26:32):
Yeah it is, because I know they've been saying since
they take him that they view him as a offensive
player first. But to me, there's a big difference between
saying it and putting it into practice. And if he's gonna,
for games, play three days of practice as an offensive
player and only one per week as a defensive player,
then yeah, he's a full time offensive player who is
(26:53):
going to be sprinkled in on defense, which is what
we wanted for fantasy. Like I loved I know we
all love Travis Hunter, but the biggest fear was like,
is he going to go somewhere that views him as
a defense And there were a lot of teams that
were like good wide receiver, even better cornerback, and we
view him as that first. So very happy that he
went to a team that is not only saying they
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want to use him as an option a wide receiver first,
but like they've built a plan where that is what
he is going to be. So for me, I love
Travis Hunter. I'm really I'm getting excited about drafting him
because I still think wide receiver three price is because
of the They're like, oh is he going to be
how much is he going to be used on offense?
Feels like it's going to be a whole bunch, So
(27:37):
I'll take him at a discount.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
The other part of this, and I was going to
ask you this Florida, and you sort of led me here,
which is great.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
Buck.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
He named a lot of names, right, I mean, I
don't think any of us are buying that Downy Brown
is going to be like, you know, the wide receiver one,
wide receiver.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
Three, and running back three.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
So yes, wait, but I thought you also loved Parker Washington.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
I do Hunter has entered the picture, He's most likely
going to be playing that slot. Brian Thomas Junior. Obviously
to Alpha. So the wide receiver three has to be
the field stretcher in Dammy Brown. And I honestly think
Liam Cohen seeing Dimmy Brown, showed his flashes last year
with the Commanders and it was like, oh, I can
utilize this at the ultimate price. So yes, I think
Dianmi Brown becomes some type of rey.
Speaker 4 (28:20):
Part to me is of those starting three wide receivers,
I think Brown is the worst field stretcher. Brian Thomas Jr.
It's not a knock on Brown, It's just those two
guys are.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
Not so good.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
But kind of what Bucky was saying, like, now let's
go back to the Cooper Cup, Brandon Cooks and Robert Woods.
Who will be the worst out of that as the
field stretcher, I would say Cup, But Cup will be
the most dynamic in his role in that scenario. But
I'm not saying that's going to be Dammy Brown. But
one of these wide receivers out of this trio will
have that stamp on them.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
I mean so, but then the question for me becomes
as you look around if if Brian Thomas you are,
we are we agree that Brian Thomas j and you're
still the wide receiver. One yes and okay, So is
there going to be enough knowing that you're gonna.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
Get some to Dammie Brown.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
I don't know how much Brenton Strange is going to
get targets, but you're still gonna You're still gonna be
working in uh, you know, Travis Etien or base Shall
Teuton or whomever Tank Bigsby, like all those guys gotta get.
Are we sure Florida there's enough targets and enough touches
uh to actually make this thing work out?
Speaker 4 (29:32):
I have hope because Liam Cohen last year in Tampa
Bay was always like like Godwin and Evans were really
nice until Godwin got hurt and then we saw McMillan
step up and become fantasy viable. So I do have
hope that, and especially because I think if Travis Hunter
was asked to be a one in the X, you're
putting a lot on his plate. But now he's gonna
(29:53):
get to be just a weapon. I think, like I
do think he's primarily going to play out of the
slot which are very high efficient targets and he's gonna
cook Nichols. I'm sorry, I don't think there's a many
Nichols in this league that contain Travis Hunter. But I
do think at times, with his versatility, we could see
(30:13):
him play opposite of Brian Thomas Junior. We could see
him play the X in certain plays like I think
he Liam Cohen could get really creative with these pieces
because they're all so versatile, at least their top two
especially are very versatile. That it all comes down now
to Trevor Lawrence, right Like I do think there the
volume will be there to sustain both if they could
(30:35):
keep these drives going and stuff. If we're getting a
lot of three and outs and that con then it's
going to be tough. So it comes down to, like
it always does, Trevor Lawrence.
Speaker 3 (30:45):
He's in the bag.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
I just say he's in the satchel of discontent. I mean,
does this Does this Travis Hunter be in there change
anything for you?
Speaker 1 (30:51):
Lakwan?
Speaker 3 (30:52):
It should? It should, because I honestly think, you know,
Trevor mid Lawrence has a clean sleep right now with
Liam Cohen, and he should be able to go on
there and execute. I honestly think it will come down
to him being healthy and him being able to just
have this playbook wide open, be able to use all
the weapons around him, because we look back when he
had Christian kirk Evan and Grim and then Brian Thomas
(31:14):
Junior last year. But these guys got all banged up.
If everybody stays healthy, I don't see how Trevor Lawrence
fails in this situation.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
Um. I mean we said that before, right, I mean right,
Like Ridley was supposed to like, you know, be that
dude to like help him.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
Was weird, that's a blur. I don't even remember him
in Jacksonville, Like he goes Falcons Tennessee to me, because
that just was like, what are we doing?
Speaker 2 (31:40):
That's really not I mean it was one year, I
get it, but to go from the Falcons to Tennessee
because it wasn't like he was lighting it up with
the with the Titans any either.
Speaker 4 (31:50):
So two bunch of targets coming this year.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
For Ridley.
Speaker 4 (31:55):
Yeah, look at the rest.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
Of the probably oh yeah, no, probably you know.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
Yeah, when when a guy like when a guy like
Nick Westbrook the Keene walks out the door, that just
changes everything you got them.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
I mean shout out.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
Hopefully he steps up, and you know what, I have
drafted him late in a number of places like just
sort of like hey, man, like who knows what happens, right,
Like if they're bad, maybe he starts getting more more
love at the end of the year, you know, I mean,
how much how much does Tyler Lockett have left in
the tank?
Speaker 1 (32:26):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (32:26):
We sort of we sort of know what Van Jefferson
is at this point.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
So Tennessee is.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
The retirement home for a wide receiver. So Tyler Locke
and knows what he's doing it. That's a real estate
out there probably.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
And plus why wouldn't you try to build around cam
Ward and iomin or right, just see what you got young.
Speaker 3 (32:43):
Gunner Helm there behind Jiggs. I mean, I don't know,
they got something.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
Maybe we'll see, We'll see.
Speaker 3 (32:50):
Tennessee are exciting, like it just is.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
What it is that the Titans are just They're just there.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
They are just there, which you know, shout out to
our boy Justin Graver, former NFL Fantasy podcast producer who's
maybe the biggest Titans fan.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
I know, man, the grave digger. Sorry about that, though.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
Jamar Chase says that in order to avoid another slow start,
the Bengals starters might need to play in the preseason.
This is the thing we talked about on this show and
on the podcast a few times that the Bengals have
put themselves like it must win situations starting in like
week five the last few years, you know, because it's
just it's been bad. Last year they started one and four.
(33:35):
Twenty twenty three, they were one in three. Twenty twenty two,
you know, they were zero and two and then had
the battle back. I mean, they just have been behind
the eight ball really to begin So jamar Chase saying
maybe we play some of our guys in the preseason.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
I mean, Florio, is this something or is this nothing?
Speaker 4 (33:53):
I think this is something. And I know preseason doesn't matter,
that's what we say. But I know, Marcus, this is
something that you've talked a lot about on this show.
I don't want to steal your thing, but like it.
If you're not playing in games at all, Week one
then is like your preseason game. So you're coming out
and you're and I know that. And especially like look,
(34:14):
Burrow and Chase they went to college together. Burrow and
Higgins have been together for years and stuff. You would
think if there's a team that doesn't start off slow,
it would be one like this with continuity. But oh
and two or worse each of the last three years.
They lost last year and Week one to the Patriots.
Did Jakobe Brissett led patrioty? Like, I don't is it
a Joe Burrow thing? I don't know what it is,
(34:35):
but yes, this offense comes out stuck in the mud.
This team they lose. I don't even want to hold
the other two games against them last year because Chiefs
and Commanders tough opponents, but like, you should not be
losing to the pay and that Patriot loss kept them
out of the playoffs. So like, yeah, I think Jamar
Chase is onto something here, Like it hasn't worked three
years in a row. Maybe try something new.
Speaker 3 (34:57):
With one.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
We always freaked out right when we see starf playing
in the preseason, like we all get let me remember
here a couple of years ago, Josh Jacobs played like
into the fourth quarter of the Hall of Fame game,
and we were like, fay Josh Jacobs, Like everybody's just
like just running away from him with their hair on fire.
And they ended up having a really good year. So
like I don't know are we going to if Jamar
(35:18):
Chase is playing in preseason games, are we going to.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
Be rational about this?
Speaker 3 (35:22):
I think if it's just the Bengals, we're good because
it's more so like they have this known slow start,
like they need to get out there and get things going.
Like practice ain't enough, Like your defensive like teammates aren't
going to be out there smacking you around. You need
to go against whoever is the Raiders thirteen stream of
the corners, like smacking you around, Like you need to
get those hits and bumps out early. So when week
(35:44):
one comes, you're already ready to go, like you're already
playing at seventy five percent, because nobody's ever one hundred
percent playing football. But whatever the case may be, you
get to that point where it's like, all right, I
don't need to shake any rust off. Let's light it up.
I'm the one on one in all fantasy draft right now,
Jamar Chase, Like, let's run it up early. Let's get
these targets and catches and touchdowns just in rhythm before
(36:07):
week six.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
You know, remember when Jamar Chase I couldn't catch like yep,
he couldn't see he couldn't catch.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
We were like, oh no, this guy's gonna be a bust.
Speaker 3 (36:18):
And you know, here we are. Well, Justin Jefferson had
a slow start too when he came out.
Speaker 2 (36:23):
I mean, well, Justin Jefferson was just he was just
a big slot receiver, like that's all he can do.
Speaker 3 (36:27):
And people like we're dropping him after week one and
then look how that played out.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
Sure, by the way, uh la, should Tyn Williams play
in the preseason?
Speaker 3 (36:37):
Oh, here we go, Yes, he shouldn't play so he
can get the grip on the ball and understand how
to hold the ball and know what. I'm going to
see him tonight, and I hope there's an opportunity that
I get to speak to him in kind fads.
Speaker 5 (36:51):
I'm going to.
Speaker 3 (36:53):
No, I'm going to the Rams revealed tonight over there
at the YouTube Theater. So get the hang out with
some of this season ticket holders over there, and there's
gonna be like a huge opportunity to see me and
see some folks out there. You know, DeMarco Farror be
over there with JB.
Speaker 6 (37:07):
Long.
Speaker 3 (37:09):
It's like a little insights. Hey, we got to keep
it in house.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
This is I'm just curious it's not gonna be all
over the internet, like, like, this is not gonna be
social Tomorrow we'll find out, Like I'm pretty sure the
RAMS social team is going to be posting all of
this stuff for us, yes, arkitempos if she's over there, like, yeah,
this isn't gonna be Sean McVay like reviewing his scheme
(37:35):
for the year, Like he's not not rolling out the
playbook or nothing like that.
Speaker 3 (37:39):
I might ask if I get the opportunity, if I'm
front row, I'm screaming some questions I want to know.
Speaker 1 (37:44):
I mean, you can ask all the questions you want.
Speaker 3 (37:46):
They're not gonna dark West Hunter season. Let's go.
Speaker 4 (37:49):
Are you gonna get their hours in advance so you
could be.
Speaker 3 (37:52):
I will leave Insiders and I will be right there
front center to the theater.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
So are you gonna be in the building? Anyways? She
just walked on the streets, all right, cool? All right?
Speaker 2 (38:03):
That was something or nothing. Some of them was something,
some of them were nothing. But I will probably some
more of tho.
Speaker 1 (38:09):
Like I we still got.
Speaker 2 (38:10):
A couple of months before anything real happens, so we'll
probably do this again at some point. Get into the
film festival because we were so last week or two
weeks ago, we thought we were gonna be super ambitious
and we thought maybe we'd do two movies, Extraction one
and two. We were not quite so successful at getting
through both those movies we have, but we all watched
(38:31):
Extraction one, right, and so we will do Attraction two
for next week. The basic premise of Extraction is a
kid is kidnapped. The son of a drug lord is
kidnapped by another drug lord and mercenary. Chris Hemsworth is
being called upon to rescue the child and get him
(38:54):
back to his first drug lord father. Right, did I
get Did I get that right? I mean pretty much
what it is, right, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (39:03):
Things don't really work out for his team.
Speaker 1 (39:05):
No, No, he's with the team.
Speaker 5 (39:07):
The team.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
The team doesn't last very long and then he's pretty
much on his own. They pretty much just told you
from the beginning that he is a superhero.
Speaker 1 (39:16):
Right.
Speaker 2 (39:17):
He jumps off this cliff and then just sits at
the bottom of a lake, which I thought was hilarious.
Speaker 4 (39:25):
Actually laughed at that point, like it's all like he jumps,
like he jumps like thirty feet into the water, and
they're like, and he's just meditating at the bottom of
the lake.
Speaker 2 (39:35):
Just lotus position, you know, like I'm underneath the lake,
just unbothered. Right, So at that point you're just kind
of like, okay, you are you really are like thor
basically what we're doing, we're.
Speaker 3 (39:47):
Kicking it off with you acting as door.
Speaker 2 (39:50):
Right, Yeah, So like it starts with that, But as
you start to break this down, Tyler Rake is is
the name of our ar, which.
Speaker 4 (40:00):
Is ironic because he uses a rake as a weapon.
Speaker 3 (40:02):
Numerous that was a crazy scene right there. Oh my god,
that was well.
Speaker 2 (40:08):
At first they say they call him Rake. They didn't
use his full name. He just called him Rake. I'm like,
is this his name or is this a code name
like I was, or or yeah, just how he murders
all that he got so bricked up. He's like yes,
like and and he's just going to town on folks
with rake with a gun, with so many different things.
(40:31):
But as you start to dive into this man, like
Tyler Rake is not okay, y'all, Like he's really not
okayes he lives in the middle of nowhere surrounded by chickens.
Is like when we first, you know, we actually kind
of get to know him a little bit.
Speaker 1 (40:52):
He's basically just drinking himself to death. What it seems like.
Speaker 6 (40:56):
He's kind of like Thor after Thanos with the Yes, Yeah,
he was, like he was like fat Thor without being fat, right,
he just had all the like the hallmarks of depression
and sadness and loneliness.
Speaker 2 (41:08):
Even like his handler who works with him is just like,
so are you like secretly hoping, like you just take
a bullet and this ends the whole thing, And like
he didn't really argue that here he is here at
the bottom of the lake, uh, just chilling right, like unbothered,
trying to figure out life at the bottom of the lake,
as one does. But then like halfway through the movie,
(41:30):
when he gets a quiet moment with the kid he's rescuing,
like he opens up about the fact that like he
was a deadbeat dad like his you know, he like
walked out on his wife and kid who has died,
and like he breaks down crying and I'm like, dude,
if I am being hunted by drug lords, like I
(41:51):
don't need the dude rescuing me to just have a
mental breakdown.
Speaker 3 (41:55):
Yeah don't.
Speaker 4 (41:56):
I actually enjoyed that part because it it made sense
as because they're like, you'll just leave the kid, like
we could get you out. Fine, it's the kid that
everyone wants, and like it's his moral code, Like I
let my own son down, I'm not going to let
him down there. Yeah that's fair Hopper from Stranger Things. Yeah,
(42:17):
he's not like him.
Speaker 2 (42:19):
Yeah, yeah, he had a little bit of a heel
turn old old Jim Hopper from Stranger Things.
Speaker 3 (42:25):
Uh, the Red Guardian, sure whatever.
Speaker 2 (42:28):
David Harber like he shows up there like kind of like, oh, hey,
look at this guy, and then yeah, it turns out
that he's maybe not super friendly, uh to our to our.
Speaker 3 (42:38):
Hero kind of looked at shady just to begin with.
When you first see him and introduce it's like, you know,
there's something though with this guy, and it'll behold.
Speaker 2 (42:47):
That I realized is that mercenaries, even though they make
large sums of money for the jobs that they do,
all tend to live in really terrible places.
Speaker 1 (42:56):
Like they don't live in nice and I are off
the mat. Yeah, you's got to be off the grid
a little.
Speaker 2 (43:02):
Bit, right, Like you can't just right, you can't take
all your money and move into Beverly Hills because then
you're gonna have neighbors being like, so what do you do? Like,
you know, that's where you can't just be like I
go to the jungles of you know, Southeast Asia and
murder lots of people, Like you can't just that's.
Speaker 3 (43:17):
Not anything you say.
Speaker 1 (43:18):
It's the only thing you say at parties, right.
Speaker 4 (43:22):
And it can't be like, oh, hey, that's where the
town Mercenary.
Speaker 1 (43:24):
Live, like right.
Speaker 2 (43:26):
Although that was basically the premise of the movie The
Whole nine Yards, I don't know if that could be
on two weeks Bruce.
Speaker 3 (43:33):
Willis and.
Speaker 2 (43:38):
Matthew Perry was I was gonna say, Matthew McCaughan. I
knew that wasn't right.
Speaker 1 (43:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (43:42):
Basically, the premise is that Bruce Willis is a hit
man who moves into the suburbs.
Speaker 3 (43:49):
I gotta watch that now. It I just never like
really watched to watch it.
Speaker 1 (43:54):
Yeah, yeah, he's a he's a hit man.
Speaker 2 (43:56):
He moves next door to Matthew Perry, who is a
I believe a dentist. And you know there are there
are Shenanians, sir, there are Shenanigans.
Speaker 1 (44:06):
Basically is one.
Speaker 4 (44:07):
Thing I loved in this movie was he just like
like Tyler gets bored at one point of being like
such a marksman that he starts using his gun like
a sword. Yea, he's just like getting people with it.
And I was just and like, like they have knives
and he's using his gun to and I'm like, dude,
just shoot them like the.
Speaker 3 (44:27):
Shield the hammer. He isn't at all like I mean,
I mean, honestly, I'm curious of what you think florio
a fight scenes, havoc or extraction.
Speaker 4 (44:36):
I I liked extraction better personally because for me, there
there was a purpose to why he was doing what
he was doing, Like he wanted to save the kid,
and and that goes a long way with me, Like
I almost sucker for a bad action movies. As long
as there's a reason for why this is happening, like
then I can make it make sense in my head.
Speaker 3 (44:56):
Beat Fathers many it kind of aligns like they were just.
Speaker 4 (45:01):
I think it's I like, I don't know. I just
enjoyed the characters in this movie and the action was
while it was over the top, it was it was
still somewhat realistic.
Speaker 3 (45:12):
Yes, I wanted that guy to live.
Speaker 4 (45:15):
I was so.
Speaker 3 (45:16):
Pissed man spoiler alert that he died.
Speaker 4 (45:20):
Weren't they against each other and now they're working together.
Speaker 1 (45:23):
I mean, well, basically they were.
Speaker 2 (45:24):
They were working towards the same goal, which was to
get the kid back to his father, But I don't
think they were both aware of that until they realized that,
oh yeah, hey, we're both trying to achieve the same thing,
and that's what it came together. A quick Google search
tells me that Tyler Rake killed eighty people in.
Speaker 1 (45:43):
The movie Distraction in an extract.
Speaker 4 (45:45):
I thought it was more.
Speaker 2 (45:46):
To be honest, I'm saying in trimple digits for sure. Yeah,
apparently he killed eighty people. And I don't know how
they I mean, I don't know how. You really gotta
work hard to count. You got to watch it.
Speaker 3 (46:00):
I counted how many times they reloaded in that movie,
and it was like four or five times they reloaded,
Like it was.
Speaker 4 (46:06):
Yeah, that was it.
Speaker 3 (46:07):
All the bullets that were freaking shot, only four times
a guy reloaded. It was like, okay, same thing with Havoc, though,
I think more so that loophole was that is that
they just grab another weapon because it's the Havoc.
Speaker 1 (46:17):
Haven't kind of got cartoonish.
Speaker 4 (46:19):
Yeah, that was the difference between me for Havoc and
this is like this felt a least somewhat more. It's
kind of like Fast and the Furious, where I know,
I know this is all ridiculous, but like on its head,
like the rock rock bottoming someone through a table, all right.
Speaker 2 (46:34):
That's real, But the rock flexing and breaking out of
a cast that is a little bit different.
Speaker 3 (46:41):
The fight scenes. I give Extraction, by the way, my
vote is Extraction over Havoc because just the way this
was like watch like the third person shooter like type
of view of the fighting was just amazing, and like
the Russo brothers obviously one of the best out there,
and like when they were even in the car and
the chase with the police, and like it looks like
the cameraman is literally just right there in the center
of the seat, in the backseat, just shooting it. Like
(47:03):
I appreciate those things in film.
Speaker 4 (47:05):
Agreed, But that part did make me laugh because I'm like,
not only is he like the best super soldier alive,
he's also Don Toretto behind the wheel, Like yeah, that
part made me laugh, Like he's like driving backwards through
a crowded town and everything.
Speaker 2 (47:21):
I'm like, all right, so I was watching this keep
in mind because like I watched Extraction and then I
think the day after, I watched a movie called Kandahar
with Gerard Butler, and there are a lot of similarities,
a lot of overlap, and so like I had to
like I was like trying to. I was watching Kandahar
with with my wife and she fell asleep. So the
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next day she's asking me what happened. And I found
myself mixing up the two movies in my head because
it was both like guys just like the badass lone
Wolves trying to get out of super dangerous situations and
like you know, taking down bad guys. And I had
to like I had to, uh yeah, I did. I
had to, h I had to sort of a make
sure I had the right because I started talking about
(48:03):
like oh yeah, so like then he gets this person,
Like she's like, who's this person you're talking about? Like,
oh wait, no, that's the other movie. So I had to,
you know, make sure I got that one right.
Speaker 3 (48:11):
Oh my god.
Speaker 4 (48:11):
The knife scene was really cool and I don't want
to go into details, but the dude who gets the neck,
that's that was like I actually on the plane was
like oh my god, like.
Speaker 2 (48:22):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that was pretty pretty brutal. Then they
tried to give you like a little kind of a
vague ending at the end of like a is Tyler
Rake still a lie? Because he takes one in the
neck on the bridge at the end of the movie
and he slumps down and it looks like maybe he's
bleeding out. But then at the very end, the very
(48:44):
last scene, you get kind of a glimpse of somebody
that could.
Speaker 1 (48:47):
Be Tyler Rake. Is it him? Spoiler alert? There's an
extraction too, So yeah.
Speaker 4 (48:53):
I know Gavin had warned us like, oh there's and
I watched like the first ten or fifteen minutes or two.
I won't give it away, but they do kind of
plane wasn't just like easy for him. But while watching
the movie, I was like, wait, is like extraction two
could be like a different person, you know, Like it doesn't.
So I still was like, because he takes it in
(49:14):
the neck, I'm like, and then falls off a bridge
into a river. Yeah, like it seems like that might
be it for a boy river.
Speaker 2 (49:24):
Yeah, except that, like, except there's like an extraction two.
And I believe Chris Himsworth is on the cover. I
think he's on the poster of Extraction too.
Speaker 1 (49:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (49:34):
Sure, so, so basically, you know, Netflix spoiled its own
ending to a movie.
Speaker 3 (49:42):
I can't wait to watch.
Speaker 4 (49:43):
It though, Like the I only watched like the first
fifteen minutes. I was like, at least it's they make
it a little bit where it's not just like, oh yeah,
he's fine and they just move on.
Speaker 2 (49:52):
Oh No, there's a there's a there's a rehab process
for I've watched it. There's a rehab process for Tyler
Ray because he gets ready.
Speaker 1 (49:59):
No one no underwater. He doesn't doesn't.
Speaker 2 (50:02):
He does not sit at the bottom of a lake
and contemplate life and extraction too.
Speaker 3 (50:07):
But the movie started with that in the water and
then it ends with him in the water.
Speaker 1 (50:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (50:13):
Different, different kinds of being in the water.
Speaker 2 (50:16):
All kinds of all kinds of being in the water,
all kinds of being in the water for him, for sure.
Speaker 4 (50:21):
But I like this lot, Like I would one hundred
percent watch it again.
Speaker 3 (50:24):
Where's on the rankings so far, it's ahead of Havoc.
Speaker 4 (50:27):
Yeah, we've all watched.
Speaker 1 (50:28):
We've only watched the movie, I.
Speaker 3 (50:30):
Think, Oh no, yeah, we only watched two.
Speaker 2 (50:34):
Yeah. Michael Fastpen during The Killer lived well, but that movie. Yeah,
And you know what, I tried to watch The Killer
and it was really slow, and I just never made
it through.
Speaker 3 (50:44):
The movie is called The Killer, and it's slow.
Speaker 2 (50:46):
It's called The Killer because like the first the first
you know, ten or fifteen minutes. It's and I would
imagine what being a hit man really is, like where
you just sit and you wait and you have to
be patient and wait, and like it's just him that's
doing little things. It's loading the gun, it's it's stretching,
it's looking out the window. I mean, it's just like
I'm like, okay, man, like just shut somebody already. Right,
(51:09):
I'm like, just shoot somebody already, Like what are we doing?
So I never made it through The Killer for sure.
So all right, so next week we'll do Extraction too.
Then we will further Adventures of Tyler Rake. I don't
see I don't see a release date for Extraction three.
Just sometime in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 4 (51:28):
Maybe if it releases, I will watch it live if
it's as long as it's not during football season and
like right it out and exactly whatever debuts, so.
Speaker 1 (51:38):
So you know, and if if it's during the summer,
we'll we'll put it here on.
Speaker 2 (51:42):
The on the cheat sheet for sure. So all right,
I think that's enough. That's enough nonsense for this one.
Thank you everybody who hung out. All your participation, We
certainly appreciate it. We'll be back with you next Tuesday
for our normal podcast, as one does.
Speaker 1 (51:59):
So we'll figure out some topics to talk about. Maybe
we'll do a should we do a mock draft? We
haven't done a mock draft.
Speaker 3 (52:04):
A mock draft, I'm always down the mock. I'm in
the right now.
Speaker 2 (52:08):
We can do a maybe do a best ball mock
or something like that. Figure it out. Uh, anyway, we'll
figure that out. All for it next week. But I
appreciate y'all for hanging out. Thanks to Gavin for getting
us up and uh the graphic.
Speaker 1 (52:21):
Help as well too. That was super super cool.
Speaker 2 (52:23):
So that'll do it for this edition of the Fantasy
cheat Sheet. For Michael Florio for the Kuwan Jones Marcus Grants,
stay happy, safe and healthy, do good and live well.
Enjoy the weekend, everybody. We'll talk to you again next week.
Speaker 4 (53:00):
Wh
Wow y, look at that.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
And welcome to an edition of the cheat Sheet. We
were in the middle of a business. We were talking
talking business here I did a business. Welcome to another
edition of the Fantasy cheat Sheet. I am Marcus granduated
by Michael F. Florio and Mkwan Jones. We are almost
out of the month of May. This will be our
last us, our last show right in the month of May.
And yes it is.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
That doesn't that doesn't really work.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
June gloom is on the way.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Yeah, you know, we got plenty to talk about. We
got a little some some questions, some stories. I'm calling
it something or nothing. We'll decide whether or not these
stories are actually worthwhile or if this is just the
sort of chatter that we get this time of the year.
And then for the film festival today, we're gonna watch
we did watch Extraction. We'll talk about that with Chris.
(00:59):
Him's worth.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
I want to start the Flooria, because you you.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Took a sojourn over the over the weekend, I guess
earlier in the week I don't even.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Know what date is anymore.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
Me neither.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
You went to Indianapolis to watch the New York Knicks
against the Pacers.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
We won't. We won't rehash the game, but I do
want to, you know, talk about your experience in Indianapolis.
What was it like? I know you had never been
to Indie before.
Speaker 4 (01:20):
No, and I probably never will be again. I feel like,
you know, like I I unless the Knicks are back
there next year or something like that, I don't. I
don't or combine something like that. I don't as foresee
myself taking another vacation there. The people were really nice
until after the game, and then they they were they
(01:41):
were chirping, and you know, myself, being a New Yorker,
I have to chirp back. Like course, me and my
me and my friend were like, look, if they say
Pacers in five, cool, like they earned the right to
say that. But when they start saying stuff about New
York and stuff like that, That's when I'm like, you
live in Indiana, Like, yes, this one out, but yeah,
Like I had a lot of fun. The travel was awful,
(02:03):
Like it's a blur. I the last three days I
was in the air more than I was in Indiana.
But Nixon seven, baby, I have convinced myself that they
are winning tonight and they are taking this series.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Well.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
The downside about that is the Minnesota Timberwolves are out
because I was hoping for a knicksed t Wolve series
since those two teams made a big trade at the
start of the year with Julius Randall and Dante DiVincenzo
going over to Minnesota Karl Anthony Towns coming back the
other way. Like, it would have been cool to see
them finally meet up in the finals after this, because
(02:36):
you don't see that, right, two teams make it a
big deal with each other and then playing for a
championship against one another. So that would have been fun.
But the Oklahoma City Thunders said no, we don't want
to be a part of that.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
They're gonna be big favorites regardless.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Of who comes out of the Yeah, I think so.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
I think this is the year that we all got
to know how good the OKC thunder are. And you know,
they look like they could be a problem for it,
like ten draft picks these next couple years. I know,
you can be a problem for a while. Here's the thing,
and you shout out to the Clippers for basically, uh,
you're gifting the thunder kind of what they are right
now here.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
Here's my fun fact if look, it's gonna be Nick's thunder,
but if it's Pacers thunder. Both of those teams were
built off of trading Paul George.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
Oh yeah, interesting fans.
Speaker 4 (03:26):
Maybe you have hope after all, maybe one of.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Them can give one of them you give Paul.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
George's still trusting the process.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
No, I think they've give it up.
Speaker 4 (03:34):
I don't want to give. I don't know his name,
but there's one Philly fan that after every Nick game,
every Nick lost, When the Knicks win, he doesn't say
a word, but when the Knicks lose, he like jumps
in my mentions and stuff. And I'm like, you trusted
the process for years, and the mixer further than Embid
has ever taken you, guys, take this one out and
ended your season last year, invaded your home and made you,
(03:56):
guys a broken team, Like get out of here with
the Philly stuff.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
That's funny.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
I love Florio's passion. That's so funny.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
I was gonna do something or nothing.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
We'll still do something or nothing, but there was something
that popped up that I wanted to get to first.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
It's not on the rundowns. I'm going off menu a
little bit.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
You guys saw that it's opened up now in the
Olympics that NFL players are going to be eligible to
play in flag football, and some of the flag football
greats are a little bit bent about that, right because
flag football and tackle football are two very different sports.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
The flag football guys.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Are saying they were hoping they would get the chance
to compete in men and women, they would get the
chance to compete over you know, having just tried to
beat out say Lamar Jackson and something like that. Your
thoughts on that, Lakwan, I mean, I feel like flag
and tackle obviously are very different games. Personally, I would
(04:53):
like to see the flag football guys out there. I
don't know how you feel about it.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
I say, mix it, like just kind of have it
to together and have like a big depth chart of
flag football professionals and some of the NFL professionals, and like,
I would love to see like one of the best,
you know, flag football quarterbacks throwing a deep bomb to
Tyreek Hill. That'd be like a dream to them. Like,
I kind of just want them to be together in
this because I think it would be very entertaining if
(05:19):
we have like a Tyreek Hill, a Patrick Mahomes out
there throwing to these like professional flag football wide receivers,
you know, Like, I think there's an opportunity there that
they could be mixed together.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
I mean, Flora your thoughts on this.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
I would like to see it mixed, but I more
than anything, they need to do a good job of
picking the NF. Like I don't want to see Patrick
Mahomes out there. I don't want to see like Josh Allen,
no offense to him. I want to see if you
go with anyone, it should be like Lamar Jackson or
Jayden Daniels. And for running backs it's like Jamiir Gibbs
and Bjehn Robinson because who cares if you can break tackles.
(05:56):
You don't have to break tackles in flag football. You
need to be like and make people so like that's
what we like. Caleb Johnson would be awful in flag
football right through you right like like you need.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
And it's funny.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
I never played like high football or whatever, but like
I played, there was a friend in our neighborhood that
was like awesome at tackle football, and then when we
got older and we started playing flag like he was
awful because he was just like I can't lower my
shoulder and just run through people, so like it's a
completely different game in a different skill set.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Yeah, Derrick Henry not a good flag option, No, no, no,
But yeah, Jimi or Gibbs would be kind of interesting.
Tyreek Hill, he could just run past you. That would
be sort of interesting. So I'm curious. I would like
to see the actual flag football players get an opportunity.
Part because it's different, but also because for me, some
(06:47):
of the fun of the Olympics is seeing people whose
names we don't normally know and watching them become stars,
and watching them become celebrities, like these are people who
train really hard at their particular sport and we don't
really hear about them, you know, but once every four years.
I think that's kind of cool to give those people
their moment, And so I would certainly like to see that.
(07:10):
But look, man, I get it, Tyson make it a
good point. I think the NFL players can definitely play
flag easily, definitely have to look at rules, but less
contact is like a dream for NFL players.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
That's true.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
We have a Pro Bowl game. They'll be lazy.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
If there is a scary thought of like say like
I said, I don't want mahomes allan. But like those
guys just dropping back and like keeving it downfield to
the fastest wide receivers in the NFL, just like four
times every drive. Eventually one of them are going to connect, right, Like.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Yeah, you could think so, which, by the way, I
don't know if you guys saw this. Tom Brady says
he's considering unretiring so he could play in the Olympics.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
He would be awful.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
He can't move. He could, he could barely move in
his prime.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
He can move.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
I don't know because he might make because you saw
that toss he had with the Super Bowl trophy that
wasn't great.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
I'm just got the.
Speaker 4 (08:07):
Arm talent still, but he's not going to be making
people miss as they're trying to rip that flag from him.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Right. That's the thing.
Speaker 4 (08:13):
You don't have five big dudes blocked. Blitz blitz.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
That's the thing I got to learn.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
There's there's gonna be some kind of rules about rushing
the quarterback, but you know, you don't have five guys
standing there blocking for you, right. You don't have grunk
as an outlet. Uh, it's a different world out there
when you're playing.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
I played in a flag league once and there were
offensive defensive linemen and it was like what are we doing?
Speaker 3 (08:36):
Like you guys are just standing there for a while, Like, yeah,
linebacker and slot for the flag football team that I
played for shot out to the pigs.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
I'm like having a having an being an offensive lineman
on a flag football team feels like.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
Yeah, why are you wearing a flag?
Speaker 4 (08:57):
It was like four seconds before you were allowed to
rush or something.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Yeah, like that's.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
That's fair, that's fair. I mean you wait two and touch.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
I mean you have to count, like I think we
kind of like ten alligators or twelve dots something like that.
You know, like, yeah, I count you one alligator, two,
alligator three, alligator four? You know how you count alligators?
And then like at ten alligators you can rush.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
The Mississippi No one, Mississippi No.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Two. Sure you could count.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
We had had like different you know, like it was
like ten alligators. I think it's like eight Mississippis or
twelve dots like whatever it was.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
But you have to pick your thing.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
You have to count that and then when you hit
that number, you were able to rush and you had
one blitz for every four downs everything everyone.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
Alligators, Yeah, alligators, this is for you. I don't know
a whole.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
Mile to be a Florida thing if you're saying alligators.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
I never I never really thought of that, Like, it
never really crossed my mind.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
We just like we started playing my buddies like count
ten alligators, and I'm like, all right, that's just what
it was. So I would never really thought about that.
And then, like I said, you could use your blitz.
You could hold your blitz, maybe the blitz on first down,
but then you didn't have one until either they gave
the ball up or they got a first down, and
you could you know, you could blitz again at some point.
So yeah, yeah, like I mean, as soon as they
(10:12):
snapped the ball, you had to yell blitz.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
You couldn't just run like you have to.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Game is going to be at so Far, No, I
believe they're going to do because I think swimming is
at so Fi.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
Yeah, yeah, I thought we talked about this.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
I hope they have not destroyed the field, man, don't
be me.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
They're going to do swimming at so Far. So.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
I believe flag football is going to be at Bemo Stadium,
which is the home of l a f C And
Angel City Football Club. That makes sense. I mean, you
don't need as big a field for flag football.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
I know what, I know, we're three years away. I'm
not leaving my house when the Olympics are going on.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
I'm I'm super excited about the Olympics. I want to
go to the opening ceremonies.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
I want some stuff.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
But the other part of this, by the way, well
I'll say I'll say a couple of things, and I
know we weren't. This has gotten deeper than I had
intended the talk good. Two things about this. One, I
know people who were in Los Angeles who lived here
in nineteen eighty four, the last time the Olympics came
to LA and that was the original consensus was like
(11:16):
it's going to be a disaster. But everybody said it
turned out to be a really great, positive experience. They
were really glad that they lived here when it happened,
so that was good. The other part of it is
the idea for this Olympics in twenty twenty eight is
that it's going to be all public transportation. That they're
not going to they're not going to have like a
lot of parking, and they want this to be so
they say they got they got three years.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
They have three years to figure this out.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Get it done, that this is going to be the
public transportation Olympics.
Speaker 4 (11:41):
I will say I loved when the super Bowl was
in LA. There was just a vibe that whole week
in this city. And maybe it's because of where we
work and we're so in you know, the super Bowl
and stuff like that, but that week was one of
the funnest weeks I've lived in LA. Like there's an
event going on in different all different areas of the city.
There was a lot like it was a really cool time.
(12:01):
So maybe I'm just not looking forward to the traffic
for the Olympics, but I am excited to go to
like a basketball game or something.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
I mean, I would stay away from Lax, go anywhere
near that.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
I don't go in here that place unless I have
to anyway, but I would definitely stay away from from
Lax for sure.
Speaker 5 (12:17):
Ah.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
That was That's our Olympics take now until something else
happened it we'll have more. It's late in May, right,
there's not a lot of actual news out there, but
you know, stories pop up, you see quotes, you hear,
you hear, interviews, what have you. And it was good
for me to kind of go through and look at
some of these things and we can all decide whether
(12:40):
or not what you read or hear is something or
if it's nothing. And we're just talking in late May.
So I got three stories here we can dive into
the first one. Shadure Sanders Dylan Gabriel say they are
making the most of an unexpected situation. Obviously, we were
all surprised to see Dylan Gabriel get drafted ahead of
Shador Sanders, and more surprised when the Browns turned around
(13:02):
a round or two later and took Shador Sanders. On
top of that, they say they are cool with each other,
that the experience has been pretty good. That they're just
out there competing to see who can be the starter Florida.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
Is this something or is this nothing?
Speaker 2 (13:17):
I think, especially when it comes to Dylan Gabriel getting
a shot at the starting.
Speaker 4 (13:21):
Job, I think it's something in this sense of I like, look,
my read of my opinion on this situation is like
Joe Flacco probably starts the year. I wouldn't be surprised
if three four quarterbacks start games for the Browns this year.
I do think Sanders gets an opportunity at some point,
but it's something in the sense of like they are
(13:41):
going to get to compete first, Like the job is
open right now, you know, like if one of these
guys runs away with it, they have every opportunity to do.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
So.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
What I think is nothing, though, is like yesterday we're
seeing ESPN Cleveland like tweet out how many passes they
age competed on, how many what like that. I don't
care about. It's it's may this is their first taste
in the NFL all of that. The other thing though,
that I do think matters a bit, and I think
(14:10):
it only matters because he fell in the draft, is
we're already seeing reporters be like, how is sha Door
Sanders looking? Is he going to be your starter? Stuff
like that. The Browns are gonna have to answer those
questions all year long, all summer, all season, And that
is why he fell to the fifth round because people
didn't want to You deal with this if you think
he is a top two pick, like we like was projected,
(14:33):
but if you don't think he is your starter, you
don't really want to have to answer all these questions.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Now, Yeah, I mean, you don't want to have to
answer all those questions.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
But I think if you're the Browns, and you're the
Browns with the quarterback room that you currently have, it
didn't matter when you took him, you were gonna have
to answer those questions.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
Right.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
It's not like he went to a team that had
an established starter and you know you're looking at it
where like, Okay, he's gonna be a backup for a year,
you know, until they like, okay, look if he'd gone
to id even say like Seattle, right, Like, I get it.
Sam Donald is not the long term answer necessarily for
the Seahawks, but he played well enough last year that
(15:12):
you feel like, Okay, Sam Donald's probably going to be
the starter unless Sudur is absolutely amazing. So you don't
get as many of those questions when your quarterback room
is Joe Flacco and Kenny Pickett and a rehabbing Deshaun
Watson who's been terrible the last couple of years, like
you could have. You could have taken Shuduur as an
undrafted free agent. We're ever gonna hear those questions like you.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
Were you were.
Speaker 4 (15:35):
Apparently fans are pushing for Milroe to start like that's
just crazy. Yeah, that's cue Sam Donald.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
Yeah, like you don't know what you've got yet, Like
that's insane because I saw those tweets as well, Like
I'm just like Seattle, you guys are kind of crazy
right now, not wanting to see what Sam Donald goes
out there and do, like you got Cooper Cup JSN.
You know you got the bag there with some people,
So that's crazy. That didn't answer that.
Speaker 4 (16:01):
Did you see a tweet from Seattle yesterday?
Speaker 5 (16:04):
No?
Speaker 3 (16:05):
I didn't, and we're not going to speak on that.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
Oh that sweet.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
See how he's trying to turn the knife like I
said his name it was.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
There was a sweet There was a tweet with Cooper
Cup sporting the blue and green with fat like I
can I can see, I can see how your previous
breakups went. You know, it's just just trash talking people
all the time.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
Like he looked, you know, it looked like a nice fit.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
Uh. You know, we'll see what he plays like. But
at least you know you look good in the uniform.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
No, he didn't.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
He looks horrendous. I don't even know why he put that.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
Well, you upset, you guys released him.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
You let him go, run off to the sun, retires
of Ram and just end your career like you go
to the opts, you go within the division. That's even
more disgusting than we had to meet on you every year.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
You let him go. That's the risk you run.
Speaker 5 (16:59):
Man.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
Man, they're going to finish like third, you know, above
the forty nine ers. So we call it today the.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
Third above the forty. Like, I love how you just
find a way to get a shot at everything.
Speaker 4 (17:11):
Wait, so you have the Cardinals the Cardinals second.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
Okay, yeah, yeah, I mean that's not a hate, that's
that's just not a spie. That's not any real analysis.
That's just spite.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
Is all that is.
Speaker 4 (17:25):
That you guys dislike the least in the division because
they haven't.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
Really I mean like like the little brother like annoys,
you like, all right, get out of here.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
Yeah, I legitimately don't really think about the.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
Like when they're playing the game, Like when they're with
the Rams playing the game, they had the controller unplugged. Game,
We're good to go.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
I mean, it really is.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
It's kind of the Don Draper, like I don't think
about you at all, like.
Speaker 4 (17:50):
Like the fans, so I don't even know who you are.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Like every once in a while they rise up and
they win, they win a few games here and there,
like it happens like you know, but I mean, the
Cardinals have not been a serious threat to anybody in
the division.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
Yeah, there it is.
Speaker 5 (18:05):
It is.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
We should just put like a Cardinal logo up top,
and they just put like the other three logos of
the NFC West like down below, right, put ram Seahawks
forty nine ers down below.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
I love you know.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
That really is how it is.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Shout out together for being quick on the draw that
one as well. I mean, lukwan though your thought, I
mean on on Shrudur and Dylan Gabriel, Like is this
really going to be a competition, I should is Shaudur
standers in competition with Dylan Gabriel or seeing competition with
like Flacco and Picket.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
I think Shrador's in competition with Blaco and Pickett, to
be honest, because Kenny Pickett just was reported taking you know,
snaps with the ones, so it's looking like, you know,
Kenny is going to be the guy they're going to
test out first they see what goes on. I mean, look,
Joe Flacco I'm surprised that, you know.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
The Brown champion Joe Flacco is mister Stamford's new jersey
a Pickett and.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
Yeah, oh Jersey boys.
Speaker 4 (18:59):
Let's go at least one of those guys played in
the Super Villa.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
One of them actually had something to do with their
team super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
One of them are elite. We could stamp him a
leite now, but I honestly think, you know, he's more
so like Shador's competing with the two guys that one
they traded for and signed for, Dylan Gabriel. He's going
to be an investment for the future. I think he's
going to be there. I honestly think they ride, you know,
with three quarterbacks this season in trade one. And look,
we already know the Steelers they're they're on the on
(19:27):
the freaking cuss. So basically just walking away from Aaron Rodgers,
wouldn't be surprised they make a move for it. Joe Flacco,
like I will honestly want that move to happen rather
than going to the season with Mason Rudolph. So one
of these quarterbacks are going to be on the move.
So I think it might end up being Pickets, shaudor
in Dylan Gabriel and Watson.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
Unfortunately, if I am an NFL team, I am not
giving up legal American tender for Joe Flacco. I'm not
giving up actual assets and for.
Speaker 4 (19:53):
Sure Browns, I'm like, we need a veteran here, right
to teach these young.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
Guys, your veterans. Kenny Pickett, who's taken reps with the
Ones right now. I mean, honestly, it doesn't sound like
look like yeah, yeah, I mean he is a veteran
by criteria. Now, No, I mean he's been in the
league a while.
Speaker 4 (20:13):
He doesn't have the experience of a Flacco though, No, No,
like what teach teach these.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
Guys a little something? Maybe Joe Flacco. Man, he's there
for the vibes, man, I mean, he's good with being
on the move.
Speaker 4 (20:25):
The better fit for him than backing up Anthony Richardson.
I'll tell you that bro with the Steelers will be magical. Honestly, Like,
I just want to see it, like it just needs
to happen. I mean, he's just gonna bounce around the
entire division.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
Let's do it.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
I mean seriously, like I'm still stuck on you calling
Kimmy padit Pickett of I mean, he is a veteran,
but like so is so is Nathan Peterman.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
Like what are we doing like.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
Veterans of all veterans for bad reasons?
Speaker 1 (20:54):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Yeah, So anyway, there will still be questions answered. We're
gonna go through this. We're gonna get you know, videos
and stats. By the way, you talked about the passing
numbers for practice for the Breath. I saw that for
the Giants too. I think I saw some like Jameis
Winston passing number and like that was my thought too,
(21:15):
Like I didn't even bother to like actually intake what
it was.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
I saw it. I looked at it, and I'm like, no, apparently.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
Winston threw a dime. This came scataboo in the end zone.
So that's pretty cool, man.
Speaker 4 (21:26):
That's what I'm sad because I don't think there's a
realistic shot that we see James this year. No, you
don't think so, because if they move on from RUSS,
I feel like they're seasons in free fall and they're
gonna go to.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
So I just play Jackson Dart.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
Yeah, I was about to say Dart in November.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
I don't know, just because have you seen the Giant schedule.
It is brutal to the point that like, where do
you throw Jackson Dart in there?
Speaker 1 (21:53):
Right?
Speaker 2 (21:53):
Because you start with the Commanders, you got the Cowboys, Chiefs, Chargers,
what the Saints. But that's so early in the season,
that's still early October. You're probably not gonna play him there.
Then you have the Eagles, Broncos, Eagles right in the
middle of the season. Right after that, you got the
forty nine Ers. Uh maybe stop, you got you got
(22:17):
the you got the Bears, maybe maybe the Bears of
the week after possibly, but.
Speaker 4 (22:21):
You get Packers, Lions, Packers, Lions.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
I mean, so what maybe maybe the maybe we see
Jackson Dart against the Patriots December.
Speaker 4 (22:29):
First, the schedule makers were like, yo, let's just run
these giants NFC North games just one after the other.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
Let's just like, we're gonna get them about the paint early,
so we don't have to worry about it. We'll just
get about the paint early and it'll be done. So
I just I think it's gonna be hard for him
to find a place to put Dart in without him
getting just clobbered somewhere.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
I kind of wish again this year.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
Aren't they they're doing in season.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
Season, that's what we wanted.
Speaker 4 (22:59):
Maybe let's go.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
It's it's the NFC East doing which, by the way,
like how salty were the Giants that they're like, we
got to do this again, like we like we did
we did pre seeds, we had off season hard knocks
and we got hammered for it. Now they're making us
do this again in season when likely our season is
going to be up in flames.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
Like they're gonna get to of all those teams, probably.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
No way. They got Winston the personalities in that room.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
Yes, but they'll give them a lot of.
Speaker 4 (23:29):
Time early on and then towards the end it'll just
be like all Eagles.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
But look, I mean they're yeah, because like they also
have the defending Super Bowl champions. They've got, you know,
the Commanders who were in the NFC Championship game and
have one of the great the good young quarterbacks in
the league. And you got the Cowboys, who are the Cowboys,
you know what I'm saying. So, yeah, it's a.
Speaker 4 (23:48):
Good division because the bat the two bad teams have
the biggest fan bases. So it's a good, good pick
for the NFL's sake.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
For the NFL.
Speaker 4 (23:57):
Not for the Giants fan No.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
Next one on something or nothing.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
Travis Hunter reportedly will not practice on both sides of
the ball during the same OTA session, which is to say,
in one session he will play offense, in one session
he will play defense. In fact, if you caught the
Move the Sticks podcast, Daniel Jeremiah Bucky Brooks talked a
little bit about this, and Bucky had some thoughts on
what he expects to see from Travis Hunter.
Speaker 4 (24:23):
What is the early thoughts there on what you seen
from Travis Hunter.
Speaker 5 (24:26):
The early player right now is he's an offensive player
who also has defensive obligations. Mean he's going to start
on offense and then he's going to be a situational
player on defense. So from a practice schedule, standpoint three
days of offense, one day at defense.
Speaker 4 (24:41):
Give me that skill position group, what's that look like?
Speaker 5 (24:44):
DJ, I think it's gonna be very, very reminiscent to
what the Rams did early in Sean mcvay's tenure. I
want you to go back to when it was Robert Woods,
Brandon Cook's Cooper Cup and how they were fast and
dynamic and really trying to stretch the field but then
being able to dump it off. I think it's going
to be that version Toami Brown, Ryan Thomas Junior, Travis Hunter,
(25:05):
you're here, Breton Strange name come in there as to
tie end one. Parker Washington will play a big role,
Travis Atien. There's some conversation about wave Fisen and y'all
to the Rioky from Virginia tech kepne on him.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
All right, So Bucky going through.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
By the way, it was funny because Floorial pointed this
out before the show. Bucky dropped Theammy Brown's name before
Thomas Junior. Probably not the way most fantasy folks haven't
drawn up, but that's that's kind of what it is.
But I mean, you want to ask you about this
thing about him only playing one side of the ball
during OTAs you know, we sort of heard Liam Cohen
talk about what their expectations, what their plans are for him.
(25:44):
But this this OTA usage, Lakwan, is this something or nothing?
Speaker 3 (25:49):
This is nothing. I think this is what we expected,
you know, for them to do, to play him on
both sides of the ball. They don't want to tire
him out, you know, just having him on one side
of the ball, and he needs to process all this
stuff as well. So I think they're playing it right,
and I think that would be more so translated into
the season with him kind of being put in on
defense on certain packages, put in defense in certain crucial moments,
(26:11):
maybe in the red zone, like we'll see him play,
you know, some defense, Like I don't expect him to
play over like forty percent of the snaps on defense,
you know, when it comes to the season, that's a
lot still. So I think more so they're gonna be
looking at him as a offensive weapon and we're gonna
see that, you know, and that's going to translate for fantasy.
Speaker 4 (26:29):
I think it's a huge something.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
Oh you think it's something, all right?
Speaker 4 (26:32):
Yeah it is, because I know they've been saying since
they take him that they view him as a offensive
player first. But to me, there's a big difference between
saying it and putting it into practice. And if he's gonna,
for games, play three days of practice as an offensive
player and only one per week as a defensive player,
then yeah, he's a full time offensive player who is
(26:53):
going to be sprinkled in on defense, which is what
we wanted for fantasy. Like I loved I know we
all love Travis Hunter, but the biggest fear was like,
is he going to go somewhere that views him as
a defense And there were a lot of teams that
were like good wide receiver, even better cornerback, and we
view him as that first. So very happy that he
went to a team that is not only saying they
(27:15):
want to use him as an option a wide receiver first,
but like they've built a plan where that is what
he is going to be. So for me, I love
Travis Hunter. I'm really I'm getting excited about drafting him
because I still think wide receiver three price is because
of the They're like, oh is he going to be
how much is he going to be used on offense?
Feels like it's going to be a whole bunch, So
(27:37):
I'll take him at a discount.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
The other part of this, and I was going to
ask you this Florida, and you sort of led me here,
which is great.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
Buck.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
He named a lot of names, right, I mean, I
don't think any of us are buying that Downy Brown
is going to be like, you know, the wide receiver one,
wide receiver.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
Three, and running back three.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
So yes, wait, but I thought you also loved Parker Washington.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
I do Hunter has entered the picture, He's most likely
going to be playing that slot. Brian Thomas Junior. Obviously
to Alpha. So the wide receiver three has to be
the field stretcher in Dammy Brown. And I honestly think
Liam Cohen seeing Dimmy Brown, showed his flashes last year
with the Commanders and it was like, oh, I can
utilize this at the ultimate price. So yes, I think
Dianmi Brown becomes some type of rey.
Speaker 4 (28:20):
Part to me is of those starting three wide receivers,
I think Brown is the worst field stretcher. Brian Thomas Jr.
It's not a knock on Brown, It's just those two
guys are.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
Not so good.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
But kind of what Bucky was saying, like, now let's
go back to the Cooper Cup, Brandon Cooks and Robert Woods.
Who will be the worst out of that as the
field stretcher, I would say Cup, But Cup will be
the most dynamic in his role in that scenario. But
I'm not saying that's going to be Dammy Brown. But
one of these wide receivers out of this trio will
have that stamp on them.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
I mean so, but then the question for me becomes
as you look around if if Brian Thomas you are,
we are we agree that Brian Thomas j and you're
still the wide receiver. One yes and okay, So is
there going to be enough knowing that you're gonna.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
Get some to Dammie Brown.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
I don't know how much Brenton Strange is going to
get targets, but you're still gonna You're still gonna be
working in uh, you know, Travis Etien or base Shall
Teuton or whomever Tank Bigsby, like all those guys gotta get.
Are we sure Florida there's enough targets and enough touches
uh to actually make this thing work out?
Speaker 4 (29:32):
I have hope because Liam Cohen last year in Tampa
Bay was always like like Godwin and Evans were really
nice until Godwin got hurt and then we saw McMillan
step up and become fantasy viable. So I do have
hope that, and especially because I think if Travis Hunter
was asked to be a one in the X, you're
putting a lot on his plate. But now he's gonna
(29:53):
get to be just a weapon. I think, like I
do think he's primarily going to play out of the
slot which are very high efficient targets and he's gonna
cook Nichols. I'm sorry, I don't think there's a many
Nichols in this league that contain Travis Hunter. But I
do think at times, with his versatility, we could see
(30:13):
him play opposite of Brian Thomas Junior. We could see
him play the X in certain plays like I think
he Liam Cohen could get really creative with these pieces
because they're all so versatile, at least their top two
especially are very versatile. That it all comes down now
to Trevor Lawrence, right Like I do think there the
volume will be there to sustain both if they could
(30:35):
keep these drives going and stuff. If we're getting a
lot of three and outs and that con then it's
going to be tough. So it comes down to, like
it always does, Trevor Lawrence.
Speaker 3 (30:45):
He's in the bag.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
I just say he's in the satchel of discontent. I mean,
does this Does this Travis Hunter be in there change
anything for you?
Speaker 1 (30:51):
Lakwan?
Speaker 3 (30:52):
It should? It should, because I honestly think, you know,
Trevor mid Lawrence has a clean sleep right now with
Liam Cohen, and he should be able to go on
there and execute. I honestly think it will come down
to him being healthy and him being able to just
have this playbook wide open, be able to use all
the weapons around him, because we look back when he
had Christian kirk Evan and Grim and then Brian Thomas
(31:14):
Junior last year. But these guys got all banged up.
If everybody stays healthy, I don't see how Trevor Lawrence
fails in this situation.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
Um. I mean we said that before, right, I mean right,
Like Ridley was supposed to like, you know, be that
dude to like help him.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
Was weird, that's a blur. I don't even remember him
in Jacksonville, Like he goes Falcons Tennessee to me, because
that just was like, what are we doing?
Speaker 2 (31:40):
That's really not I mean it was one year, I
get it, but to go from the Falcons to Tennessee
because it wasn't like he was lighting it up with
the with the Titans any either.
Speaker 4 (31:50):
So two bunch of targets coming this year.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
For Ridley.
Speaker 4 (31:55):
Yeah, look at the rest.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
Of the probably oh yeah, no, probably you know.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
Yeah, when when a guy like when a guy like
Nick Westbrook the Keene walks out the door, that just
changes everything you got them.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
I mean shout out.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
Hopefully he steps up, and you know what, I have
drafted him late in a number of places like just
sort of like hey, man, like who knows what happens, right,
Like if they're bad, maybe he starts getting more more
love at the end of the year, you know, I mean,
how much how much does Tyler Lockett have left in
the tank?
Speaker 1 (32:26):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (32:26):
We sort of we sort of know what Van Jefferson
is at this point.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
So Tennessee is.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
The retirement home for a wide receiver. So Tyler Locke
and knows what he's doing it. That's a real estate
out there probably.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
And plus why wouldn't you try to build around cam
Ward and iomin or right, just see what you got young.
Speaker 3 (32:43):
Gunner Helm there behind Jiggs. I mean, I don't know,
they got something.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
Maybe we'll see, We'll see.
Speaker 3 (32:50):
Tennessee are exciting, like it just is.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
What it is that the Titans are just They're just there.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
They are just there, which you know, shout out to
our boy Justin Graver, former NFL Fantasy podcast producer who's
maybe the biggest Titans fan.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
I know, man, the grave digger. Sorry about that, though.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
Jamar Chase says that in order to avoid another slow start,
the Bengals starters might need to play in the preseason.
This is the thing we talked about on this show and
on the podcast a few times that the Bengals have
put themselves like it must win situations starting in like
week five the last few years, you know, because it's
just it's been bad. Last year they started one and four.
(33:35):
Twenty twenty three, they were one in three. Twenty twenty two,
you know, they were zero and two and then had
the battle back. I mean, they just have been behind
the eight ball really to begin So jamar Chase saying
maybe we play some of our guys in the preseason.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
I mean, Florio, is this something or is this nothing?
Speaker 4 (33:53):
I think this is something. And I know preseason doesn't matter,
that's what we say. But I know, Marcus, this is
something that you've talked a lot about on this show.
I don't want to steal your thing, but like it.
If you're not playing in games at all, Week one
then is like your preseason game. So you're coming out
and you're and I know that. And especially like look,
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Burrow and Chase they went to college together. Burrow and
Higgins have been together for years and stuff. You would
think if there's a team that doesn't start off slow,
it would be one like this with continuity. But oh
and two or worse each of the last three years.
They lost last year and Week one to the Patriots.
Did Jakobe Brissett led patrioty? Like, I don't is it
a Joe Burrow thing? I don't know what it is,
(34:35):
but yes, this offense comes out stuck in the mud.
This team they lose. I don't even want to hold
the other two games against them last year because Chiefs
and Commanders tough opponents, but like, you should not be
losing to the pay and that Patriot loss kept them
out of the playoffs. So like, yeah, I think Jamar
Chase is onto something here, Like it hasn't worked three
years in a row. Maybe try something new.
Speaker 3 (34:57):
With one.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
We always freaked out right when we see starf playing
in the preseason, like we all get let me remember
here a couple of years ago, Josh Jacobs played like
into the fourth quarter of the Hall of Fame game,
and we were like, fay Josh Jacobs, Like everybody's just
like just running away from him with their hair on fire.
And they ended up having a really good year. So
like I don't know are we going to if Jamar
(35:18):
Chase is playing in preseason games, are we going to.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
Be rational about this?
Speaker 3 (35:22):
I think if it's just the Bengals, we're good because
it's more so like they have this known slow start,
like they need to get out there and get things going.
Like practice ain't enough, Like your defensive like teammates aren't
going to be out there smacking you around. You need
to go against whoever is the Raiders thirteen stream of
the corners, like smacking you around, Like you need to
get those hits and bumps out early. So when week
(35:44):
one comes, you're already ready to go, like you're already
playing at seventy five percent, because nobody's ever one hundred
percent playing football. But whatever the case may be, you
get to that point where it's like, all right, I
don't need to shake any rust off. Let's light it up.
I'm the one on one in all fantasy draft right now,
Jamar Chase, Like, let's run it up early. Let's get
these targets and catches and touchdowns just in rhythm before
(36:07):
week six.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
You know, remember when Jamar Chase I couldn't catch like yep,
he couldn't see he couldn't catch.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
We were like, oh no, this guy's gonna be a bust.
Speaker 3 (36:18):
And you know, here we are. Well, Justin Jefferson had
a slow start too when he came out.
Speaker 2 (36:23):
I mean, well, Justin Jefferson was just he was just
a big slot receiver, like that's all he can do.
Speaker 3 (36:27):
And people like we're dropping him after week one and
then look how that played out.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
Sure, by the way, uh la, should Tyn Williams play
in the preseason?
Speaker 3 (36:37):
Oh, here we go, Yes, he shouldn't play so he
can get the grip on the ball and understand how
to hold the ball and know what. I'm going to
see him tonight, and I hope there's an opportunity that
I get to speak to him in kind fads.
Speaker 5 (36:51):
I'm going to.
Speaker 3 (36:53):
No, I'm going to the Rams revealed tonight over there
at the YouTube Theater. So get the hang out with
some of this season ticket holders over there, and there's
gonna be like a huge opportunity to see me and
see some folks out there. You know, DeMarco Farror be
over there with JB.
Speaker 6 (37:07):
Long.
Speaker 3 (37:09):
It's like a little insights. Hey, we got to keep
it in house.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
This is I'm just curious it's not gonna be all
over the internet, like, like, this is not gonna be
social Tomorrow we'll find out, Like I'm pretty sure the
RAMS social team is going to be posting all of
this stuff for us, yes, arkitempos if she's over there, like, yeah,
this isn't gonna be Sean McVay like reviewing his scheme
(37:35):
for the year, Like he's not not rolling out the
playbook or nothing like that.
Speaker 3 (37:39):
I might ask if I get the opportunity, if I'm
front row, I'm screaming some questions I want to know.
Speaker 1 (37:44):
I mean, you can ask all the questions you want.
Speaker 3 (37:46):
They're not gonna dark West Hunter season. Let's go.
Speaker 4 (37:49):
Are you gonna get their hours in advance so you
could be.
Speaker 3 (37:52):
I will leave Insiders and I will be right there
front center to the theater.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
So are you gonna be in the building? Anyways? She
just walked on the streets, all right, cool? All right?
Speaker 2 (38:03):
That was something or nothing. Some of them was something,
some of them were nothing. But I will probably some
more of tho.
Speaker 1 (38:09):
Like I we still got.
Speaker 2 (38:10):
A couple of months before anything real happens, so we'll
probably do this again at some point. Get into the
film festival because we were so last week or two
weeks ago, we thought we were gonna be super ambitious
and we thought maybe we'd do two movies, Extraction one
and two. We were not quite so successful at getting
through both those movies we have, but we all watched
(38:31):
Extraction one, right, and so we will do Attraction two
for next week. The basic premise of Extraction is a
kid is kidnapped. The son of a drug lord is
kidnapped by another drug lord and mercenary. Chris Hemsworth is
being called upon to rescue the child and get him
(38:54):
back to his first drug lord father. Right, did I
get Did I get that right? I mean pretty much
what it is, right, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (39:03):
Things don't really work out for his team.
Speaker 1 (39:05):
No, No, he's with the team.
Speaker 5 (39:07):
The team.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
The team doesn't last very long and then he's pretty
much on his own. They pretty much just told you
from the beginning that he is a superhero.
Speaker 1 (39:16):
Right.
Speaker 2 (39:17):
He jumps off this cliff and then just sits at
the bottom of a lake, which I thought was hilarious.
Speaker 4 (39:25):
Actually laughed at that point, like it's all like he jumps,
like he jumps like thirty feet into the water, and
they're like, and he's just meditating at the bottom of
the lake.
Speaker 2 (39:35):
Just lotus position, you know, like I'm underneath the lake,
just unbothered. Right, So at that point you're just kind
of like, okay, you are you really are like thor
basically what we're doing, we're.
Speaker 3 (39:47):
Kicking it off with you acting as door.
Speaker 2 (39:50):
Right, Yeah, So like it starts with that, But as
you start to break this down, Tyler Rake is is
the name of our ar, which.
Speaker 4 (40:00):
Is ironic because he uses a rake as a weapon.
Speaker 3 (40:02):
Numerous that was a crazy scene right there. Oh my god,
that was well.
Speaker 2 (40:08):
At first they say they call him Rake. They didn't
use his full name. He just called him Rake. I'm like,
is this his name or is this a code name
like I was, or or yeah, just how he murders
all that he got so bricked up. He's like yes,
like and and he's just going to town on folks
with rake with a gun, with so many different things.
(40:31):
But as you start to dive into this man, like
Tyler Rake is not okay, y'all, Like he's really not
okayes he lives in the middle of nowhere surrounded by chickens.
Is like when we first, you know, we actually kind
of get to know him a little bit.
Speaker 1 (40:52):
He's basically just drinking himself to death. What it seems like.
Speaker 6 (40:56):
He's kind of like Thor after Thanos with the Yes, Yeah,
he was, like he was like fat Thor without being fat, right,
he just had all the like the hallmarks of depression
and sadness and loneliness.
Speaker 2 (41:08):
Even like his handler who works with him is just like,
so are you like secretly hoping, like you just take
a bullet and this ends the whole thing, And like
he didn't really argue that here he is here at
the bottom of the lake, uh, just chilling right, like unbothered,
trying to figure out life at the bottom of the lake,
as one does. But then like halfway through the movie,
(41:30):
when he gets a quiet moment with the kid he's rescuing,
like he opens up about the fact that like he
was a deadbeat dad like his you know, he like
walked out on his wife and kid who has died,
and like he breaks down crying and I'm like, dude,
if I am being hunted by drug lords, like I
(41:51):
don't need the dude rescuing me to just have a
mental breakdown.
Speaker 3 (41:55):
Yeah don't.
Speaker 4 (41:56):
I actually enjoyed that part because it it made sense
as because they're like, you'll just leave the kid, like
we could get you out. Fine, it's the kid that
everyone wants, and like it's his moral code, Like I
let my own son down, I'm not going to let
him down there. Yeah that's fair Hopper from Stranger Things. Yeah,
(42:17):
he's not like him.
Speaker 2 (42:19):
Yeah, yeah, he had a little bit of a heel
turn old old Jim Hopper from Stranger Things.
Speaker 3 (42:25):
Uh, the Red Guardian, sure whatever.
Speaker 2 (42:28):
David Harber like he shows up there like kind of like, oh, hey,
look at this guy, and then yeah, it turns out
that he's maybe not super friendly, uh to our to our.
Speaker 3 (42:38):
Hero kind of looked at shady just to begin with.
When you first see him and introduce it's like, you know,
there's something though with this guy, and it'll behold.
Speaker 2 (42:47):
That I realized is that mercenaries, even though they make
large sums of money for the jobs that they do,
all tend to live in really terrible places.
Speaker 1 (42:56):
Like they don't live in nice and I are off
the mat. Yeah, you's got to be off the grid
a little.
Speaker 2 (43:02):
Bit, right, Like you can't just right, you can't take
all your money and move into Beverly Hills because then
you're gonna have neighbors being like, so what do you do? Like,
you know, that's where you can't just be like I
go to the jungles of you know, Southeast Asia and
murder lots of people, Like you can't just that's.
Speaker 3 (43:17):
Not anything you say.
Speaker 1 (43:18):
It's the only thing you say at parties, right.
Speaker 4 (43:22):
And it can't be like, oh, hey, that's where the
town Mercenary.
Speaker 1 (43:24):
Live, like right.
Speaker 2 (43:26):
Although that was basically the premise of the movie The
Whole nine Yards, I don't know if that could be
on two weeks Bruce.
Speaker 3 (43:33):
Willis and.
Speaker 2 (43:38):
Matthew Perry was I was gonna say, Matthew McCaughan. I
knew that wasn't right.
Speaker 1 (43:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (43:42):
Basically, the premise is that Bruce Willis is a hit
man who moves into the suburbs.
Speaker 3 (43:49):
I gotta watch that now. It I just never like
really watched to watch it.
Speaker 1 (43:54):
Yeah, yeah, he's a he's a hit man.
Speaker 2 (43:56):
He moves next door to Matthew Perry, who is a
I believe a dentist. And you know there are there
are Shenanians, sir, there are Shenanigans.
Speaker 1 (44:06):
Basically is one.
Speaker 4 (44:07):
Thing I loved in this movie was he just like
like Tyler gets bored at one point of being like
such a marksman that he starts using his gun like
a sword. Yea, he's just like getting people with it.
And I was just and like, like they have knives
and he's using his gun to and I'm like, dude,
just shoot them like the.
Speaker 3 (44:27):
Shield the hammer. He isn't at all like I mean,
I mean, honestly, I'm curious of what you think florio
a fight scenes, havoc or extraction.
Speaker 4 (44:36):
I I liked extraction better personally because for me, there
there was a purpose to why he was doing what
he was doing, Like he wanted to save the kid,
and and that goes a long way with me, Like
I almost sucker for a bad action movies. As long
as there's a reason for why this is happening, like
then I can make it make sense in my head.
Speaker 3 (44:56):
Beat Fathers many it kind of aligns like they were just.
Speaker 4 (45:01):
I think it's I like, I don't know. I just
enjoyed the characters in this movie and the action was
while it was over the top, it was it was
still somewhat realistic.
Speaker 3 (45:12):
Yes, I wanted that guy to live.
Speaker 4 (45:15):
I was so.
Speaker 3 (45:16):
Pissed man spoiler alert that he died.
Speaker 4 (45:20):
Weren't they against each other and now they're working together.
Speaker 1 (45:23):
I mean, well, basically they were.
Speaker 2 (45:24):
They were working towards the same goal, which was to
get the kid back to his father, But I don't
think they were both aware of that until they realized that,
oh yeah, hey, we're both trying to achieve the same thing,
and that's what it came together. A quick Google search
tells me that Tyler Rake killed eighty people in.
Speaker 1 (45:43):
The movie Distraction in an extract.
Speaker 4 (45:45):
I thought it was more.
Speaker 2 (45:46):
To be honest, I'm saying in trimple digits for sure. Yeah,
apparently he killed eighty people. And I don't know how
they I mean, I don't know how. You really gotta
work hard to count. You got to watch it.
Speaker 3 (46:00):
I counted how many times they reloaded in that movie,
and it was like four or five times they reloaded,
Like it was.
Speaker 4 (46:06):
Yeah, that was it.
Speaker 3 (46:07):
All the bullets that were freaking shot, only four times
a guy reloaded. It was like, okay, same thing with Havoc, though,
I think more so that loophole was that is that
they just grab another weapon because it's the Havoc.
Speaker 1 (46:17):
Haven't kind of got cartoonish.
Speaker 4 (46:19):
Yeah, that was the difference between me for Havoc and
this is like this felt a least somewhat more. It's
kind of like Fast and the Furious, where I know,
I know this is all ridiculous, but like on its head,
like the rock rock bottoming someone through a table, all right.
Speaker 2 (46:34):
That's real, But the rock flexing and breaking out of
a cast that is a little bit different.
Speaker 3 (46:41):
The fight scenes. I give Extraction, by the way, my
vote is Extraction over Havoc because just the way this
was like watch like the third person shooter like type
of view of the fighting was just amazing, and like
the Russo brothers obviously one of the best out there,
and like when they were even in the car and
the chase with the police, and like it looks like
the cameraman is literally just right there in the center
of the seat, in the backseat, just shooting it. Like
(47:03):
I appreciate those things in film.
Speaker 4 (47:05):
Agreed, But that part did make me laugh because I'm like,
not only is he like the best super soldier alive,
he's also Don Toretto behind the wheel, Like yeah, that
part made me laugh, Like he's like driving backwards through
a crowded town and everything.
Speaker 2 (47:21):
I'm like, all right, so I was watching this keep
in mind because like I watched Extraction and then I
think the day after, I watched a movie called Kandahar
with Gerard Butler, and there are a lot of similarities,
a lot of overlap, and so like I had to
like I was like trying to. I was watching Kandahar
with with my wife and she fell asleep. So the
(47:42):
next day she's asking me what happened. And I found
myself mixing up the two movies in my head because
it was both like guys just like the badass lone
Wolves trying to get out of super dangerous situations and
like you know, taking down bad guys. And I had
to like I had to, uh yeah, I did. I
had to, h I had to sort of a make
sure I had the right because I started talking about
(48:03):
like oh yeah, so like then he gets this person,
Like she's like, who's this person you're talking about? Like,
oh wait, no, that's the other movie. So I had to,
you know, make sure I got that one right.
Speaker 3 (48:11):
Oh my god.
Speaker 4 (48:11):
The knife scene was really cool and I don't want
to go into details, but the dude who gets the neck,
that's that was like I actually on the plane was
like oh my god, like.
Speaker 2 (48:22):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that was pretty pretty brutal. Then they
tried to give you like a little kind of a
vague ending at the end of like a is Tyler
Rake still a lie? Because he takes one in the
neck on the bridge at the end of the movie
and he slumps down and it looks like maybe he's
bleeding out. But then at the very end, the very
(48:44):
last scene, you get kind of a glimpse of somebody
that could.
Speaker 1 (48:47):
Be Tyler Rake. Is it him? Spoiler alert? There's an
extraction too, So yeah.
Speaker 4 (48:53):
I know Gavin had warned us like, oh there's and
I watched like the first ten or fifteen minutes or two.
I won't give it away, but they do kind of
plane wasn't just like easy for him. But while watching
the movie, I was like, wait, is like extraction two
could be like a different person, you know, Like it doesn't.
So I still was like, because he takes it in
(49:14):
the neck, I'm like, and then falls off a bridge
into a river. Yeah, like it seems like that might
be it for a boy river.
Speaker 2 (49:24):
Yeah, except that, like, except there's like an extraction two.
And I believe Chris Himsworth is on the cover. I
think he's on the poster of Extraction too.
Speaker 1 (49:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (49:34):
Sure, so, so basically, you know, Netflix spoiled its own
ending to a movie.
Speaker 3 (49:42):
I can't wait to watch.
Speaker 4 (49:43):
It though, Like the I only watched like the first
fifteen minutes. I was like, at least it's they make
it a little bit where it's not just like, oh yeah,
he's fine and they just move on.
Speaker 2 (49:52):
Oh No, there's a there's a there's a rehab process
for I've watched it. There's a rehab process for Tyler
Ray because he gets ready.
Speaker 1 (49:59):
No one no underwater. He doesn't doesn't.
Speaker 2 (50:02):
He does not sit at the bottom of a lake
and contemplate life and extraction too.
Speaker 3 (50:07):
But the movie started with that in the water and
then it ends with him in the water.
Speaker 1 (50:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (50:13):
Different, different kinds of being in the water.
Speaker 2 (50:16):
All kinds of all kinds of being in the water,
all kinds of being in the water for him, for sure.
Speaker 4 (50:21):
But I like this lot, Like I would one hundred
percent watch it again.
Speaker 3 (50:24):
Where's on the rankings so far, it's ahead of Havoc.
Speaker 4 (50:27):
Yeah, we've all watched.
Speaker 1 (50:28):
We've only watched the movie, I.
Speaker 3 (50:30):
Think, Oh no, yeah, we only watched two.
Speaker 2 (50:34):
Yeah. Michael Fastpen during The Killer lived well, but that movie. Yeah,
And you know what, I tried to watch The Killer
and it was really slow, and I just never made
it through.
Speaker 3 (50:44):
The movie is called The Killer, and it's slow.
Speaker 2 (50:46):
It's called The Killer because like the first the first
you know, ten or fifteen minutes. It's and I would
imagine what being a hit man really is, like where
you just sit and you wait and you have to
be patient and wait, and like it's just him that's
doing little things. It's loading the gun, it's it's stretching,
it's looking out the window. I mean, it's just like
I'm like, okay, man, like just shut somebody already. Right,
(51:09):
I'm like, just shoot somebody already, Like what are we doing?
So I never made it through The Killer for sure.
So all right, so next week we'll do Extraction too.
Then we will further Adventures of Tyler Rake. I don't
see I don't see a release date for Extraction three.
Just sometime in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 4 (51:28):
Maybe if it releases, I will watch it live if
it's as long as it's not during football season and
like right it out and exactly whatever debuts, so.
Speaker 1 (51:38):
So you know, and if if it's during the summer,
we'll we'll put it here on.
Speaker 2 (51:42):
The on the cheat sheet for sure. So all right,
I think that's enough. That's enough nonsense for this one.
Thank you everybody who hung out. All your participation, We
certainly appreciate it. We'll be back with you next Tuesday
for our normal podcast, as one does.
Speaker 1 (51:59):
So we'll figure out some topics to talk about. Maybe
we'll do a should we do a mock draft? We
haven't done a mock draft.
Speaker 3 (52:04):
A mock draft, I'm always down the mock. I'm in
the right now.
Speaker 2 (52:08):
We can do a maybe do a best ball mock
or something like that. Figure it out. Uh, anyway, we'll
figure that out. All for it next week. But I
appreciate y'all for hanging out. Thanks to Gavin for getting
us up and uh the graphic.
Speaker 1 (52:21):
Help as well too. That was super super cool.
Speaker 2 (52:23):
So that'll do it for this edition of the Fantasy
cheat Sheet. For Michael Florio for the Kuwan Jones Marcus Grants,
stay happy, safe and healthy, do good and live well.
Enjoy the weekend, everybody. We'll talk to you again next week.
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