July 10, 2025 • 55 mins
Marcas Grant, Michael F. Florio, and LaQuan Jones return with another exciting episode of the Fantasy Cheat Sheet livestream! They kick things off with a look at some intriguing draft strategies emerging from the legendary Scott Fish Bowl fantasy league. (01:28)
After the break, the crew dives into why the San Francisco 49ers might have the most underrated wide receiver group in the NFL. Plus, they tackle listener questions, including concerns around the Chargers' backfield and how J.K. Dobbins' presence could affect R.J. Harvey’s fantasy value. (20:02)
Then it’s lights, camera, chaos as they head to the film room for a review of the aptly named action flick Land of Bad. (40:00)
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Speaker 1 (00:11):
What's up, everybody. Welcome to another edition of the Fantasy
cheat Sheet.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
First one we've all been together for in a while.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
It's nice Marcus Granty when Michael and Floyda and Lakwan Jones.
Happy Thursday, fellas we are one step closer to training
camp starting.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
How are we feeling.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
Friday, Junior, Let's go, It's Friday, Junior.
Speaker 4 (00:29):
I like that the weekends are getting very very short
until we don't have them anymore.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Yeah, yeah, you know it's funny because I you know,
I'm I'm back to.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Doing serious XM on Saturdays starting this week.
Speaker 4 (00:43):
I mean, it's all three of us, but on different shows.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
On different shows.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
You know, one of these days, maybe maybe we should
talk to the people in charge over there and maybe
they'll give.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Us our own show together.
Speaker 4 (00:51):
Please.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
But yeah, I know, the the weekends are getting short,
the time off is getting short. Football is going to
be back before we know it. So we are here
as we are. I'm just say every Thursday, but not
really a lot of Thursdays. I just sort of fill
your ear holes with fantasy football and other nonsense.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
Semi regular, semi regular.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Right.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
It's like it's like how a thing used to be
like the you know, the annual such and such awards,
and then like one year they have to stop, and
then it just becomes like, you know, the thirty second
yo such and such awards.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
That's kind of what this is right now.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
Anyway, we gotta have to talk about We're gonna give
some scott Fish Bowl updates because that is going I
should check and see make sure that I am OTC
on the clock.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
I don't believe I am, Marcus.
Speaker 4 (01:36):
You would have lost your mind. In my draft yesterday.
I told you guys that you get a like a
OTC goes out the minute someone's on the clock. Yeah,
I'm the only West Coaster in my league. I'm pretty sure.
And at like eleven thirty last night, so like two
thirty in the morning Eastern someone got hit with an OTC.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Oh no way, Oh that's ridiculous.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
Yeah, go to bed exactly.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Uh, yeah, I know I'm not on the clock yet,
I'm still five picks away.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
They'll let you know.
Speaker 5 (02:07):
You don't have to have to check anymore.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
My my division has been very chill about this sort
of thing, so it's been it's been cool.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Let's up, Christian, thanks for popping in.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Yeah, we have not had I think I think we
had one just because I think somebody was like, you know,
meeting or stuck somewhere until like the clock ran down
to like it got under four hours, and then that's.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Like, hey, by the way, you're on the clock. That
I'm cool with.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Right, if you've gone more than half the clock and
nothing's happened, then I'm cool with giving.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Somebody a little nudge of a reminder.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
You don't have to hit them with it. As soon
as you make your pick, you know it's fine. They'll
figure it out, especially over eight hours.
Speaker 4 (02:45):
I got hit with it yesterday. I clicked it and
it was like seven hours fifty eight minutes and something seconds,
so I was on the clock for less than two minutes.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
We are all so connected to our phones, probably to
our own detriment, that over the course of eight hours
we will see.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
If we are on the click.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
For sure, we'll talk about the forty nine ers wide
receiver room, mostly because I just want to make Lakwan
have to talk about the forty nine ers.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
Forty paint that picture before you guys fight.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Oh, we know what it's going to be.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
It's gonna be him being salty and like grudgingly admitting
you know, yeah, maybe there's value there, but they also
try to throw some elbows at the same time because
he can't be objective about it.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
I can.
Speaker 5 (03:24):
I can be honest. I'm just blunt honest. I want
the team to burn. I hate their fans, Like, I
don't want to see you guys win.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
I know that's fine, but you have to be able
to That's fine, okay, but like you still have.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
To be able to like give honest analysis it I do.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
Jordan Mason is my favorite.
Speaker 5 (03:42):
Like that was my fantasy baby, Like that's a forty
nine er, that was real, that happened.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
I forgot about RB three here.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
Yeah, yeah, arvy threes don't count RB three here.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
To fact, his love for ARV three is.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
Trump his hatred for forty nine ers.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Oh man, we will do a movie today.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Land of Bad is what we watched as we continue
our dive into Netflix action. Uh, diving into Netflix action movies.
We watched the two Extraction movies with Chris Himsworth, so
it felt like a nice transition to watch a movie
and starring his brothers.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Liam the star Luke also involved in the movie as well,
so the other hymns worths there. We'll talk about that
a little bit later on the show. Quick update though,
so how far are you? I know, Lakwan, you're done.
We we don't even know your full roster for scott
Fish Bowl. Oh you mentioned you mentioned like you did
seven picks, although you were sort of you know, half
in the bag, you half in the pool and half
(04:40):
in the bag for the first several.
Speaker 5 (04:44):
Looking for my shoes at one point because somebody knocked
it in the pool and that was just unfortunate.
Speaker 4 (04:51):
Like like like slides or like sneakers, like my slides
like in that they That's why I want to put
sure that you see that I have no socks on
because they were soaking wet and there was an uber
ride to my airbnb to get more socks, so I had.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
How many do you need socks?
Speaker 4 (05:09):
Yeah? Why do you wear socks to the pool?
Speaker 5 (05:12):
Because I didn't listen, man, I didn't want to go
barefooted with the toes out and stuff, like I didn't
get them pedicured up or nothing like that.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
Like I mean, okay, what you're at the pool, you
don't need socks like everybody everybody have.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
The people there got rusty feet, like you don't have to.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Rusty feet is crazy, Rusty.
Speaker 4 (05:30):
How many glizzies did you eat?
Speaker 3 (05:33):
Oh my god, that is one hell of a question.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
You or Troy King.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
Troy actually got sick from the night before, so he
had too many glizzies.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
Too many glizzies in the belly.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
Paul, too many glizzies. Uh yeah, So quick out there.
I do see some I see some comments, some questions
in the chat. We will get to those. Please please
hang on, we will get to those as well.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
Talking glizzies disease.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
So I'm looking at the a DPS right If you
go to a Fantasy Live dot com, they have the
scott fish Bowl tool there, the tool that Ryan McDowell
created a couple of several years ago at this point,
which is incredible, incredibly accurate, incredibly detailed, updates regularly. It
has a DPS. Uh, it has you know who drafted
(06:21):
which players, all that sort of stuff. Right now, the
number one pick in most leagues is Jean Robinson.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
Yes, let's go.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
I mean I didn't honestly, I didn't plan this, but yeah,
that was that was totally not planned.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
It just sort of worked out that way.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
I mean, I guess it surprises me a little bit
in the sense that, you know, it's a super flex league,
I would think that more people would go QB at
that top spot.
Speaker 4 (06:57):
Yeah, my my league, like barely anyone took. Like, there
are teams we're in the ninth round. There are teams
with no quarterbacks. Oh dang, wow, there's one team that
has nothing but wide receivers. I very much misread my
draft room because I started QBQB and then I was like,
if I knew everyone was gonna draft like this is
(07:18):
a one QB league, I wouldn't have done that.
Speaker 5 (07:20):
Well, one in my league too over Josh Allen and
Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
So Rock Bowers when one in mind Rock Bowers, Wow,
that's chasing the format.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
You know, that's definitely chasing the format. And I think
here's the thing about Scott Fishball. Because there are so
many people and so many divisions, you're going to get
basically every permutation of draft strategy I think you can get.
And it's so hard I think to accurately gauge what
your draft room is going to be because you just
(07:54):
don't know. I mean, here it is, I'm waiting. We
are in round five, of my my Division one team
already has three quarterbacks.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
Yeah, wow, exact the opposite of mine.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Three three three of the first five picks or quarterbacks.
And so I mean they're rocking Joe Burrow, Patrick Mahomes,
bow Knicks and their wide receivers of Brian Thomas and
Garrett Wilson.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Those are their five picks.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
They didn't even need bo Knicks out of that.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
But I'm happy they took him though. But I'm just saying,
you mean Buck is gonna get drafted. I mean it's
not he was gonna sit there and wait if this
person didn't take.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
Him, because undrafted in a super flex league.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Super flex league. Wow. Some of the other picks that
are some of the other guys that are going first.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Uh, Jamar Chase, no surprise, Saquon not really a surprise there,
Jamior Gibbs, Lamar Jackson, Josh Allen, Ashton Genty, John Ty
has gone first. Uh, Brock Bowers, which we know we
don't leave that is we're at first.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Jaden Daniels has gone first. Christian McCaffrey has gone at
number one. Oh, that's that's I.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
Think that was Brian Drake. Actually I saw him tweeting
about that.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
All right, Wow, Trey McBride, I see has gone number one.
Uh and Devon ah Chan. So I think those are
all the guys who taking number one.
Speaker 4 (09:15):
I get it, I guess.
Speaker 5 (09:18):
But I'm looking at Chase falling to me at eight
and he's going one, and I feel like that's huge
value on me.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Yeah, definitely value for you for sure.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
Oh absolutely, yeah, so very it was it was Brian
Drake who took CMC at one dot one.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
That's the part of this.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
Because it is so hard to win this thing, sometimes
it's just fun to take a wild swing, a big
swing at them. Was it last year that Kate Moduke
took a Kicker number one? Yeah, I believe that happened
with that, but I think but but I think her
her logic was, look, man, it's so hard to win.
(09:56):
I'm just gonna do something fun, right, Just do something fun,
something that people are to talk about a year later,
still talking about it. So uh yeah, So I'm I'm
I'm waiting to get back on the clock. So wait,
how far are you now, Florio? Uh? I am two
picks away from my ninth round pick. Oh all right,
so I started lamar Jackson. As I told you guys,
(10:20):
I forgot about the third round reversal. I was all
set at the end of round two to just double
back up and take a third round pick, and I hit.
I hit the pick, and then I'm like, wait, why
am I not on the clock again? I'm like, oh,
that's right, the last guy. Yeah, so I took Drake London.
Uh at the end of the second round. I had
to wait for it to come back around. And after
(10:42):
our discussion yesterday end, they're taking Lad McConkie and Terry McLaurin,
so boo. So who was I supposed to take?
Speaker 5 (10:55):
I don't know, but it just seems too fresh all
the fire knee.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
But it's also because of the guys that were gone, right,
the other receivers that I mean, I took Drake London,
so then the receivers that went ahead of him, Brian Thomas, A. J. Brown, Nicocollins,
and so then you know, McLaurin and mconkey were the
two best receivers on the board at that point.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
So so yeah, yeah, that's a good price.
Speaker 5 (11:19):
Then and again it's Scott Fish, Scott Fishball, Scott Fish.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Yeah all right, yeah, but if you want to check
out kind of how things are going, where the what
the ADPs are for certain teams or for certain players.
Rather go to fantasylife dot com look up their scott
Fish Bowl tool. In fact, they may have a link
to it right on the front page if I'm not mistaken,
But just yeah, go check out.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
In fact they had. They recently redid their website. It
looks great.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
So shout out to Matthew Berry and the folks over
Fantasy Life for what they put together over there. We'll
get a couple of these questions because we got people
they have they have concerns. Matt Bubar our pal from
the network, ask you what do each of you feel
about Dobbins in Denver?
Speaker 2 (12:02):
Is it time to panic? If we like R J.
Harvey Lakwan, the floor is yours?
Speaker 3 (12:07):
Are you serious? This is a one two punch here.
Speaker 5 (12:09):
I think I've explained this on previous episodes, like this
is going to be the Alvin Kamara and the mark
Ingram version of what he has in Denver under Sean Payton,
and like I think JK. Dobbins is more so going
to be there to keep the change moving. He's an
efficient runner. The arch will carry great vision, be able
to get the first downs in etc.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
RJ.
Speaker 5 (12:25):
Harvey's the explosive back to be the pass catcher of
this backfield, to be able to be the PPR giant.
That's why I'm taking him in the fifth round. I'm
not even blinking or looking any other way. I'm feeling
like I'm accomplished when I get him as my RB too,
just with so much upside in this offense.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Yeah, you know, I feel about Sean Payton.
Speaker 4 (12:45):
He's a liar.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
I know I feel about how Sean Payton feels about us.
I guess.
Speaker 5 (12:50):
He's not.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
Look, he's not worse than Arthur Smith. He is the
Fantasy Streets boogeyman.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
For Arthur Smith either. I'm just saying he's not as
that's more of a liar.
Speaker 5 (13:01):
And Sean McVay he's on that cuss of being a
liar with his running backs as well. But we shall
see this season.
Speaker 4 (13:06):
Yeah, Dobbins is certainly a bigger threat than anyone that
was on the roster. Like I have lowered R. J.
Harvey in my like, I still like Harvey. I was
big on him before the draft process and stuff like
during the draft process, but JK. Dobbins like gives Sean
Payton the option to pull Sean paytonisms now like before that,
(13:28):
I don't think they had another back that he could do.
So like, I still like R. J. Harvey, but I
do think we should get a little bit of a like.
I have him amongst the rookies. I have him behind
like Hampton, I have him behind Trevon Henderson now and
prior to the Dobbins signing, that might have been a
little different.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
Yeah, I mean I do think we can we can
chill on the Audric estimate Julia mclough. Yeah no, And man,
look Sean Payton was out here hyping up Audric Guestimy
bottomlenth Ago. Right, So back to why that's my point
about Sean mcvaig Sean Payton. Rather, you know, sometimes he's
(14:07):
a liar and the truth is not in him at
least when it comes to player usage, and he doesn't
like us. Uh zer rolsty wants in our thoughts on
Kyle Williams.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
Oh, that's a Florio question.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
All right, How do you feel?
Speaker 4 (14:19):
I really like him? I love him as a prospect,
and I do want to say like he's very good
at certain things. Like he is phenomenal at turning screens
into long plays, and he is really good at stretching
the field the intermediate portion of the field, which I
believe is the hardest area for wide receiver to find
consistent success. He needs some work there, But yeah, I
(14:42):
think he could be a really good Best ball player
who has the potential. I'm throwing a lot of late
round darts on him because I do think he has
the potential to break out. I'm not telling you like
he's going to be a Week one slam dunk or
anything like that, but I do think with him and
Drake May and stuff like that, there's the potential for
a lot of big plays in this offense.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
Yeah, I've done multiple Drake Makee Kyle Williams stacks in
Best Ball, you know, just because of the prices. Yeah,
what the price is and what the potential upside is,
Like it's worth the squeeze to try that.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
I would think in redraft leagues.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
You know, he's sort of a draft and stash sort
of thing, you know, see kind of what happens is there. Yeah,
he's kind of a watchless guy. I you know, you
could probably even wait, you may even be on the
waiver wire. I think in a lot of leagues you'll
be on the waiver wires. So with the guy to
keep your eye on, and you know, if after you know,
whatever week a couple weeks of the preseason or week
one or two of the regular season, it looks like
(15:39):
there's some life there.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
I think you could probably go pick him up.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
So yeah, I mean I think there's upside, just don't
go crazy with it at this point.
Speaker 5 (15:47):
Still a Patriots player at the end of the day.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
I mean, look, we'll see now that Bill Belichick's out
of the building's been out of the building for a
couple of years. We'll see if they get better at
scouting that position.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
He has a little light spot wounds in the building.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
That's true.
Speaker 4 (16:02):
Last year they didn't even bother that is true. They
were just like, all right, we're going with whatever wide
receivers we got.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
Well, I mean, look, we remember we tried to be
excited about like Javon Baker and those guys last year,
and like.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
That didn't work.
Speaker 4 (16:16):
The answer was Hunter Henry.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
Yeah, that was a great answer, right, It was not
even a great answer, you know, the Mario Douglas Kaishaon
Booty still kind of leading away.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Uh yeah. A question from Christian Rogers.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
Should we be worried about a running back committee in
the Chargers backfield?
Speaker 2 (16:35):
I am concerned. Yes, I think you should be a
little concerned.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
Yeah, I mean I think I think what they're putting
together for that offense, they bring in Najie Harris, and
I think it's gonna be sort of similar to what
we saw with the Steelers, right, I mean, I think
I think that's kind of kind of how it's split.
You know, both guys will be okay, not great just
(17:01):
because of usage. Yeah, I mean I think we should
definitely be concerned about it. I think Hampton's going too high.
Speaker 5 (17:10):
Like I think by the time August comes around, he's
going to be way too high for me to be interested, because,
like we already spoke about RJ.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
Harvey, I rather RVE than Hampton.
Speaker 5 (17:18):
Of where these guys are going close to ADP, Like,
that's a no brainer for me, because I think Nag's
going to be that thorn in the side and it's
going to be in all areas of the field.
Speaker 4 (17:27):
Yeah, now just go I don't love taking nausey, but
he's going late.
Speaker 5 (17:31):
He's he's an RB three, RB four at at at best,
you know, So it's like I'll take that as a flex,
you know, if he pops in and has a good game.
Speaker 4 (17:38):
And two, I cause a little bit of a ruckus
on Twitter a couple of weeks ago, but I pointed
out that uh Hampton has to deal with Nausey, who
this current regime brought in. Harvey has to deal with Dobbins,
who this current regime brought in. But then there's Trevon
Henderson who has to deal with Mantre Stevenson, who was
from the old regime. I think that matters. Like I
(17:59):
think the fact that a new team, like new coaching
staff came in and we're like, we're gonna use one
of our top picks on a running back, to me,
that that signals that, like they want to move on
at that position.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
Yeah, I mean I think I think so.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
I like, yeah, I think there's there's less commitment to
a guy who's already been there, right if you're a
new coaching staff and you weren't necessary. Although with the
Patriots again, just because as you mentioned, Lakwan, it's it's
sort of Belichick's minions, Like is it different that way
it's like, well, hey, Bill brought this guy in and
(18:35):
and Bill, you know, sort of groomed him and gave
him a spot. Uh you know, then you know, maybe
we'll give him the opportunity. I don't know, I'm I'm
just kind of spitballing here with Stevenson.
Speaker 4 (18:47):
Uh. He was the backup when Josh McDaniel was there,
and then when he left, that's when Stevenson kind of
became the starter over Damien Harris. So like, I don't know,
I'm I know, I'm I'm kind of using context clues
here stuff, But to me, it tells me.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
That's all we got. Man.
Speaker 4 (19:03):
Yeah, they want Henderson to be the guy if he
like Ramondre's a really nice fallback option. But if Henderson
is who we think he is, I experience less he.
Speaker 5 (19:13):
Has less of a threat than most of the rookie
running backs because Stevenson the funnel issues, the explosiveness, and like,
I do feel like the old regime is like basically
done in Wash with Ramondre Stephen. He was bench for
Antonio Gibson last year. You know, so I do, I
do get the logic a trivion Henderson having less of
a threat, but we could say the same thing with RJ.
Harvey with JK. Dobbinson's health. I'm just saying I'm going
(19:34):
to campaign for R. J. Harvey until week eighteen, where
we're going to be saying RJ.
Speaker 4 (19:40):
Harvey's a top ten running back. Who do you think
leads them in? He look catches alone, he could get
him there. But who do you think leads that team
and goal on carries? Is it Harvey? Is it Dobbins?
Is it Nicks? Is it one of the other running backs?
Because that's what we gotta worry about.
Speaker 5 (19:56):
That we don't have answers to today.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
We'll get back to your questions in just a little bit.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
Wanted to kind of turn our attention to the forty
nine ers wide receiver room because it was a topic
that came up at the end of the pario on Tuesday,
because he just wants to see a fight, like I'm
just gonna tell you that I'm not I'm not gonna
I'm just gonna sit and listen to the Kwan and
just take everything he says with a grain of salt.
Speaker 4 (20:21):
In like ADP right now, though Juwan Jennings is like
in the late thirties at wide receivers. You get Ricky Piersoll,
who's somewhere in the forties, like usually early, and then
you get Brandon Ayukhu's in the like after the top
fifty wide receivers. I know that's health related and stuff,
but feels like they're all really good values to me.
(20:43):
But I am ready for you to just eviscerate the MLKY.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
Yeah, so how about how about just let's just get
this part out of the way so then we can
actually have a productive conversation. So I'll talk about how
you know all three of these dudes, should you know
play on the Golden gate Bridge during rush hour traffic
or something like that, Like, just just get it out
of your system now and then we'll have a real conversation.
Speaker 4 (21:06):
It's not even like that.
Speaker 5 (21:07):
Like again, I want to be objected. I want to
be truthful and honest, but I do feel like, you know,
Ricky Piersoll, he's getting a little bit of too much
of a hype off of very little sample size that
we've gotten. I haven't seen anything that you know, from
the college stape that we've seen of him being this
standout wide receiver three or four, Like there's a chance
that he can end up being like the fourth target
(21:27):
of this offense, you know, when Brandon au comes back.
But I like Juwan Jennings more than drafting Brandon Ayuke,
just based on that first you know, first six to
seven games that we saw Auk and Jennings kind of existing.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
Even with one less game, Jennings still had the same
amount of receptions, he had more yards. He was very
productive and efficient with his opportunities, where Brandon Aiyuk had
that slow start because he was holding out. So I'm
supposed to be led to believe that. You know, even
if I take Brandon and you as a wide receiver
four or five, very late outside the top fifty, I
feel like it's a waste to pick because he's coming
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back with a timetable most likely a month of football
already passed him and then probably like October, Like we
look at the seven weeks that he had last season,
he had no touchdowns. I mean, rock Perty was terrible
when targeting him. He had a fifty three percent completion percentage,
which was the lowest percent percentage out of the pass catcher.
So I feel like there's a disconnect there now and
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now when he's coming back from injury. It's gonna have
to be waiting until we get to the fantasy playoffs
where I don't like drafting like that anymore.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
Guys.
Speaker 5 (22:27):
Jonathan Brooks has scarred me. I don't want to do
that again. I don't want to sit there and all
blow up, you know. And like when you look at
Juwan Jennings and what he brings to the offense's versatility,
and I think that's a lot different from where Brandon
Nyuk and Ricky piersoll on, etcetera, etcetera. Because he was
the most efficient slot wide receiver last year, folks. And
that includes your boy Lab McConkie over there Florio with
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a two point nine yards for rock run. For all
to an analytical nerds out there that cares about that,
But I'm just saying facts. Juwan Jennings looked the best
playmaker on that forty nine ers offense, and I'm floor.
I mean, look, MG, I know you remember that Rams
game Week three earlier in the season where he's one
hundred and seventy five yards a game.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
We still won the third and.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
Third in Juwan was a real thing, you know. Third
and Juwan was a real thing for the last few years.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
It hasn't look Remember two years ago, there was a
stretch of about ten fifteen game minutes when it looked
like Juwan Jennings might be a Super Bowl MVP, right,
I mean it looked that way for a while. So
I you know, I think Juwan Jennings is a playmaker
on this offense. I just I think people are a
little too scared of the Brandon Ayuk thing.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
Last year was bad. Agree was no way around it.
Last year was just back. There was there was the.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
Holdout, There was what him on like was it on
on ig or like live streaming with Jade and Daniels.
You know, there's all these rumors about he's gonna go
to Washington. Is he gonna you know, reunite with his
college buddy.
Speaker 4 (23:54):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (23:54):
You know, then he finally shows up in camp. He
hadn't really worked out, he looked out of shape, and
then he gets hurt after sething Like everything about last
year was bad. The injury is a little bit of
a concern, and the rehab and that the timeline for that.
But knowing that he's at least playing I even not
playing Nate for a forty nine or future, he is
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still playing for a future somewhere and when he is right,
Brandon Nyuk is still incredibly talented. I said back in
twenty twenty two, before that season started that he had
surpassed Deebo Samuel at that point to be the wide
receiver number one in that offense. Two years ago he
gave me thirteen hundred yards and seven touchdowns. A year
before that one thousand yards and eight touchdowns. When he
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is motivated, and I think he is motivated again, if
not to show out for the forty nine ers, but
to show out for the thirty one other teams that
might take a chance on him. I just think him
being wide receiver fifty one right now, is everybody playing
scared at least when it comes to draft. I think
it's everybody playing.
Speaker 4 (25:01):
I'm with MG on this one because two years ago
Brandon Aiyuk had maybe the most efficient wide receiver season
in NFL history, Like he had the most yards ever
for the amount of targets he saw. So I know
last year was bad, but we can't just like men
in Black two years ago either and just act like
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that never happened. So to me, he is being drafted
way closer to his floor than his ceiling, and even
if the first few weeks, like you don't have to
draft him as a starter and there's no bys or
anything like that the first few weeks of the season.
So even if he's not out there, and I think
he's it's a possibility he's out there week one because
(25:41):
he tore it in October. Uh, so like he could
be out there week one even if he's not, though,
like I don't need him week one, So I tend
to see him as upside that you're not. Like if
he goes, if he jumps ten spots higher in the
wide receiver rankings, then I'm gonna be like, yeah, you're
now he's getting pulled up too much. But I've been
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taking him all summer, and I think all of the
forty nine ers are values because Juwan Jennings is is
that volume play. I mean, he like he didn't have
a thousand yards last year as their top target. But
like so to me, I think Jennings is more of
a safer floor type of play than he is ceiling,
(26:23):
And I think Ricky Piersoll's kind of in the middle
of that. Like Ricky Pierson led this wide receiver room
in success rate last season, and I think he's very
versatile where he could play out wide at times, he
could play in the slot at times, Like he's like
a chess piece that Kyle Shanahan could use. And again,
the best part is like he's not a top forty
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wide receiver, So I'm not drafting him as a starter,
you know, or if I am, maybe I'm drafting him
as like a flex option something like that. But I mean,
we have seen more really good years out of this
forty nine ers offense than bad so it last year
and in the past. We're taking these guys' top twenty
wide receivers. None of these guys are going top thirty five.
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To me, I think it's a buying opportunity.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
Given you guys thirty years, you still haven't caught us
in Super Bowl titles.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Oh my god, we taken a thirty year, taking a
thirty year break from winning super bowls.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
You still haven't caught us.
Speaker 5 (27:17):
But listen, you guys made it to the Big Dance,
but didn't leave with the hottest chick man, which is
the ring, so that you know the prom king out
here man. We got the ring in twenty twenty one,
first year ever that.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
Time, the Rams scored three points in a super Bowl, the.
Speaker 4 (27:30):
Worst super Bowl I remember, watched the worst super.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
Bowl in history. The Rams were on one side of it.
Speaker 4 (27:35):
And that is why Jared Goof got shipped.
Speaker 5 (27:37):
Okay, that is exactly why he I heard he.
Speaker 4 (27:40):
Talks a lot of istering the quarterback doc about the Rams.
Speaker 5 (27:44):
He's a cry baby, man, get over it.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
It is baby. Did you guys just treat him badly?
Speaker 3 (27:49):
Like he treated his opportunity badly?
Speaker 4 (27:52):
Man?
Speaker 3 (27:53):
I hated that twenty nineteen season.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
I hated it, all right. You guys cute enough to draft?
Speaker 4 (27:58):
You made the Super Bowl, right like I thought.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
I thought he looked good enough to draft the number
one overall.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
I'm just saying he's a Fisher guy, not a McVeigh guy.
Let's get that clear. Just like they has no loyalty
to him, all right?
Speaker 2 (28:10):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (28:10):
Anyway, Yeah, Rickie pierceaw, I would say off this group
is maybe the hardest to sort of to figure out,
just because you know, he was up and down last
year in sort of limited opportunities. You know, he also
was coming off getting shot at the beginning of the
season before the season started. I don't think you can
discount something like that you will be helped by the
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lack of Deebo Samuel.
Speaker 4 (28:34):
Yeah. I also think it's like the way I draft.
I'm taking wide receivers early, so when I get to
this portion of the draft, I've usually spent the last
couple of picks at like running back or tight end
or something. So I'm like, I have like usually like
three really good wide receivers at this point, maybe even four,
and now I'm looking for upside and I think the four.
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But like if you draft the opposite and you're sitting
there and you're thin at one receiver, then you might
not want to roll the dice on, Like you might
be like, hey, Khalils Shakir is in this range and
he's safe for something like that. But yeah, So to me,
maybe it's just the way I build teams, But I
do often find myself being like, it's hard to pass
up some of these forty nine ers wide receiver.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
I do think roster construction matters when you're looking at
forty nine or wide receivers. You know, just because I
think Ricky Piersaw especially, I think you get a little
more stability with a healthy IU and with Juwan Jennings.
But Peersaw is the one where I want to make
sure I've got some other guys to some of the
guys that back me up, just in case.
Speaker 5 (29:37):
Where he's going, where he's going, Like I'd rather pivot
to a Jakobe Myers. I'd rather pivot to the Deebo
Samuel over there and you know in Washington, Like that's
the ranger where he's going at that time, where we
handle the other Ricky first two and three. Why though,
like I I can't, I can't pull the trigger on
it because it's like there's still good wide receivers going
behind him that have proven talent or havn't proven outside you, I.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
Don't think I take Ricky over Debo.
Speaker 4 (30:02):
Yeah, me too, I don't. I don't ever consider Debo.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
I mean, just again, I think you talk about Men
in Blacking the IUX season from two years ago. I
think we whatever the reverse of the Men in Black
is where like it just sticks in your head in
the eye. I mean, that's what the twenty twenty one
season has become. I think for a lot of people
is like, yeah, man, he was amazing in twenty twenty one.
He had fourteen hundred receiving yards he had, you know,
(30:27):
eight rushing touchdowns, Like.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
I think that's yeah, I don't think.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
I don't think getting paid is what caused the decline,
because if you look at all the other seasons around
that one, they're all kind of similar. Like that's the
one outlier season that he had. I mean, I just
come back to he did a lot of the dirty
work for the Niners offense. He was very good for
real football. He was just kind of yeah in fac.
Speaker 4 (30:52):
I mean, he had eighty one targets last year for
the Niners and finished with six hundred and seventy yards.
Ricky turned forty six targets into four hundred yards. So
like I'd argue, he was performing better, just on a
limited role. Lash and it was such a weird rookie
season like you said, MG.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
Yeah, so uh anyway, Yeah, I think this is fun.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
We can dive into some more wide receiver roums.
Speaker 3 (31:19):
I was objective.
Speaker 4 (31:19):
I was fine, you were objective.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
I would know what I know.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
I will give you your flowers on this when you
you put your biases aside.
Speaker 4 (31:26):
I like some players.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
I just hate the team and fans, that's all.
Speaker 4 (31:30):
But MG, you're the outlier.
Speaker 5 (31:32):
There's like three people I know that are forty nine ers,
fans that are okay, like that are normal.
Speaker 4 (31:36):
Like I don't dislike teams anymore. I just dislike fan bases.
That's how I am nowadays.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
You know what I feel like doing this job and
especially being on social media, you start to dislike fan
bases because you have some people.
Speaker 4 (31:49):
You got that Indiana Pacers.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
Somewhere, some somewhere, chill just went down. Tyree's Halliburton's back.
Speaker 4 (32:01):
He's not thinking about me at all.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
He is not.
Speaker 4 (32:03):
He's like the Thanos me.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
Like a couple of questions here, this one from I
am Corey saying, what is your prediction for bo Nicks
this season and fantasy?
Speaker 4 (32:12):
Is this?
Speaker 2 (32:13):
Is this your burner? What is this is?
Speaker 1 (32:15):
No?
Speaker 2 (32:16):
Absolutely not.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
People are excited about nixtape man and well Ashton john
c finish in the top three running backs. So the
second one I'm gonna say, No, I don't think johnsy
finish is top three.
Speaker 5 (32:29):
It's bold.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
The Raiders just aren't going to score.
Speaker 4 (32:32):
I think it's in the range of outcomes, but it's
not the most likely most likely.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
Yeah it can happen, Yeah, it could happen.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
It just I just don't think the Raiders score enough points.
Speaker 5 (32:44):
I find myself taking Derrick Henry over Ash and Gentine
a lot, like I just smash it because that's like
proven upside of where he can legit finish as the
top five, like gent where.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
That's Kelly and like that's not super spicy, that's mildly
wildly hot.
Speaker 4 (32:58):
And my last rankings update I put gent behind hn
and Henry.
Speaker 3 (33:04):
All right, all right, So Gibbs quon Jeon three two.
Speaker 4 (33:08):
One, Jon Gibbs sa quon Chan, Henry gent going video
game numbers this year?
Speaker 1 (33:19):
Yeah, I think I think I think people are starting
to come back to earth on John c a little bit, right,
Like everybody was super highed and then draft season open
and people are kind of getting crazy with it, and
I think everybody's kind of stopped, like okay, let's.
Speaker 3 (33:32):
Yeah, let's exce. I blame the draft analysts for that.
Speaker 5 (33:35):
There's always an overlap after April where people have that
draft analyst stuck in their head and then they I
was like, I can't take Genty over Derrick Henry or
a Han like that sounds crazy.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
And you got Bonnicks, what top.
Speaker 3 (33:49):
Eight, top six, top top six?
Speaker 4 (33:52):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (33:52):
So then uh, so then obviously we know your answer
to this question.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
Look on about JJ McCarthy or bone Knicks.
Speaker 5 (33:59):
I mean JJ's on so late, like I do, like
waiting on JJ in like the twelve round.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
You know, in one quarter, this is an easy call.
It's like, I don't we have drafted JJ McCarthy, Like
I'm not. I'm willing to draft uh Justin Jefferson. I'm
willing to still take a swing at T. J. Hawkinson.
So I don't know.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
Why I don't want JJ McCarthy, but I just don't.
Speaker 4 (34:21):
I don't mind him as a QB two. I would
never want him as my one.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
I was on a podcast recently as a guest where
the host I think, mostly jokingly but maybe with the
tinge of tinge of seriousness, referred to J McCarthy as
a god to your quarterback. I think it was I'm
gonna say it was like I'm gonna say it was
like ninety five percent joking, but five percent think donald was. Yeah,
(34:54):
So that part, let's see will Mike Williams said this
all with the Undertaker meme and fantasy this season, No.
Speaker 4 (35:01):
Michael, and so I loved Mike Wims for a while.
I think it's over.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
I mean, I just think he sort of is who
he is.
Speaker 3 (35:08):
He's a danger to hisself.
Speaker 5 (35:10):
Every time he tries to catch a ball, he hurts himself.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
Like jeez, danger to himself.
Speaker 4 (35:15):
He tore his a cl and then couldn't jump past,
like Alan Lazard in the y and like other bad
jet receivers.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
For yeah, I don't think it's gonna get a touchdown.
Speaker 4 (35:26):
Though he also had got blamed for a loss after
Aaron Rodgers threw a pick and was like, it's unlike Williams.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
Terrible teammate moment, which, by the way, good luck with that.
DK Metcalf, good luck. Braden wants to know.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
I need thoughts on Jacoby Myers and Cuba Hubbard, two
studs I had last year. Want to go after them again,
but I don't know if they're gonna have the same
type of production.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
I like Cuba. I think Cuba can give you something
similar to what he did last year.
Speaker 4 (36:00):
Little hesitant when it comes to him, though.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
I.
Speaker 3 (36:04):
Yeah, a sexy pick. I would rather over Isaac Isaiah Pacheco.
Speaker 4 (36:08):
Though really I'd rather I gotta look how I have
that ring. But I love me some Pacheco.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
I think I'd rather have Pacheco.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
I think the thing to worry about with Cuba Hubbard
is the ten touchdowns or head eleven total, ten rushing,
one receiving.
Speaker 2 (36:25):
I think that's the thing.
Speaker 4 (36:25):
To sort of worry about is rico'dowell isn't a great
running back, but he's competent.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
He's like he's better.
Speaker 4 (36:31):
Than than Miles Sanders and whatever else was backing him
up before Jonathan Brooks was available.
Speaker 5 (36:38):
You know, yeah, Yeah, he had forty three catches last
year though, and that's that's a huge jump from like
Rico Daddle. I mean, I have to check go ahead
of Cuba.
Speaker 4 (36:49):
Yeah, how far? How far? Four spots apart.
Speaker 1 (36:54):
Man, that's not bad. I'm not gonna argue that he
was like ready to be upset.
Speaker 4 (37:00):
There's a lot of names in that area that you like, though,
like Nixon, Harvey.
Speaker 3 (37:04):
Oh, Mixing is a dog.
Speaker 5 (37:05):
I always love when people doubt Mixing because Mixing is
gonna have three hundred and something touches and he's gonna
have a bunch of targets. And I don't think people
actually like understand like Mixing is still like a really
good running back. Out of that backfield explosiveness, elusive. If
he's hard to bring down, like the goal line carriers
is his there's no backup, like it's just playing itself
out for high end RB two.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
I don't think that's the argument against Joe Mixon.
Speaker 1 (37:27):
I don't think it's it's the week to week and
last year he was a little bit more consistent. Although
the back half of the season was bad. The last
five or six games were not good.
Speaker 3 (37:37):
He was not a playoff hero for.
Speaker 4 (37:39):
He's twenty nine. That's where my concern comes in.
Speaker 1 (37:44):
I just I just don't know, you know, I we
all love the big you know, thirty five point spike
weeks that he gives you, but then he'll follow it
up with like four and a half, you know, Like
that's the problem.
Speaker 3 (37:56):
Players mess up.
Speaker 4 (37:58):
Remember that one year where he was top ten, but
if you took away that like sixty point game, he
was like RB twenty eight or something like that.
Speaker 3 (38:05):
Take away that game it happened, he'd.
Speaker 1 (38:07):
Anything but no, but no, but I mean you can't
take away that game. But you also play more than
one week, right, So like it's one of those things
where he was a league winner, he was a week
winner that one week and then every other week.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
He was sort of mad.
Speaker 1 (38:22):
But when you look at at the end of the season,
you're like, if you like, if you if you've met
in black, right, You're like, oh.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
Yeah, all of a sudden, this is just a new thing.
Speaker 1 (38:30):
This is a new thing. Now we should try to
get a same, right, we get like, oh like, but
if you take that away, if you forget about all that,
you look at you're like, oh, yeah, Joe Mixon was
a top ten running back. Forgetting about like all the
weeks when he was like RB twenty seven, right, like
you sweet about that.
Speaker 4 (38:44):
We had it on Fantasy Live. I think it was
like a weekly thing where we'd be like, here's his stats.
If you take away one game, and like it was
such a big difference. But that's what mix it is, right, Like,
he's going to have a game like that at some
point this year he'll score four touchdowns or something like that.
Speaker 5 (39:00):
Right, he had seven one hundred yard games last year, Like,
I will take that over other guys that we're hoping
to get four, you know, Like he gets the targets,
he gets the opportunities, like I'm always gonna buy in.
Speaker 2 (39:12):
I'll mix it. No matter what.
Speaker 1 (39:14):
All right, uh DG wants to know, is there any
is there ever any logical reason to draft a QB
in the second round and it's ten man league?
Speaker 5 (39:21):
No, I don't play enough ten man So I'm just
gonna say no.
Speaker 4 (39:25):
I mean, it's not something we like to do in
twelve team because you can get good values late.
Speaker 5 (39:30):
So like third is probably like the earliest for me
in twelve I'll go third.
Speaker 4 (39:34):
I think in ten I would even push it.
Speaker 5 (39:36):
Yeah, I probably pushed I pushed it like four or five,
because what is it? It's Lamar, Josh Allen and Jayden
Daniel's probably going in that third.
Speaker 3 (39:44):
I would think in.
Speaker 4 (39:45):
Twelve team leagues, Yeah, in a ten team league you
could get like Bo Nicks and Justin Fields if you want.
Speaker 3 (39:51):
And you're sitting in Pree like yeah, like oh my god.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
Yeah. So the answer to that is a resounding no.
Speaker 1 (40:01):
All Right, thanks for the questions everyone, Right, this is
what everybody wants to hear about us. Talk about a
mediocre Netflix action movie starring Liam's and Liam hims Worth.
Speaker 2 (40:13):
Which was this? So was it on the pod or
was it after the pod?
Speaker 1 (40:17):
Florio when you admitted that you did not know that
Liam and Chris Himsworth were brothers.
Speaker 4 (40:23):
I don't it was. It was either right before we
ended or right I don't know, but yeah, I had
no idea that I Yesterday I put the movie on
and I said to Nicola, I was like, did you
know they're brothers? And she was like, how did you not?
Speaker 1 (40:39):
So yeah, So after we watched Extraction one and two,
starring Chris Himsworth, we decided, let's watch his little brother,
Liam try to be an action star in Land of Bad.
Speaker 2 (40:50):
The premise of the.
Speaker 1 (40:51):
Movie is that he is a basically a droned operator.
His job is to go out with a group of
Marines and he's the one who calls in the drone strikes.
Speaker 2 (41:02):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (41:02):
They are trying to retrieve another captured UH agent, I
have the CIA agent, field agent, what have you. They're
trying to retrieve one who has been captured by a
group of terrorists. Things they wear. They're somewhere in the
jungles somewhere. I'm not even sure if they.
Speaker 3 (41:22):
Bay or something like that.
Speaker 2 (41:23):
They're in Cuba. No, I don't know where they are.
Speaker 4 (41:25):
The caption because I had close cap on and kept
saying speaking Filipino.
Speaker 2 (41:31):
Yeah, maybe they were in the Philippines somewhere. That's right.
They did say it say a lot of that.
Speaker 4 (41:35):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (41:36):
So they go to try and retrieve their lost agent. Uh.
Things go badly and poor liams and Limsworth is on
his own to try and escape. But of course that
doesn't go smoothly either. Uh mayhem, high jinks ensue and
you know, Russell Crowe gets angry a few times.
Speaker 4 (41:57):
Crow he was the best part of the.
Speaker 1 (42:00):
Movie was uh, mister Stamper's question. Yes, Luke Kimsworth is
also related. He is the Luke Ymsworth is actually the
oldest brother.
Speaker 2 (42:12):
He's the one that died. He dies like ten minutes
into the movie, which I was shocked.
Speaker 3 (42:16):
I told I was like that that's his brother.
Speaker 4 (42:19):
Yeah. He was a legit upset because he's like, you're
you're taking Like I know in the movie he's like, oh,
my friend died, but in real life he was like,
you're taking money from my brother.
Speaker 2 (42:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (42:28):
He Uh, he dies fairly early. He is the oldest
of them. Chris is the middle brother and Liam is
the youngest of the three. Just so you have that
all ready to go. So you're lakwan you you as
soon as you logged on the first thing you said
was I have thoughts, So I would like to hear
your thoughts on this film.
Speaker 5 (42:47):
Well, one, I was annoyed at the colonel, like I
hate Tennessee basketball College bab.
Speaker 1 (42:55):
I didn't know you had feelings about Tennessee basketball, Listen.
Speaker 3 (42:58):
I was just so annoyed.
Speaker 5 (42:59):
I was like, this game is not that important, and
what tournament lasts is this long? Like I didn't even
know if the day went by, or like I lost
the sense of the plot in the movie that they
had to rescue somebody by the way, Like when they
at the end found the guy in the cage, I'm thinking,
that's his other boy and he's like, oh, this is
the agent that we're supposed to be, Like there was
never no, Like.
Speaker 4 (43:17):
Yeah, I had no idea who that guy was, Like no,
and I'm just like, what is going on?
Speaker 5 (43:23):
There's always tragedy like every step in a way, like
it was just a mediocre movie at best.
Speaker 1 (43:29):
But I'm just like I probably won't watch this again,
Like I just won't. Oh no, I don't think I'll
ever see this movie again. A loud shirt thick with
like four seas. It's a golf glove that he's wearing.
I'm trying to feel like, why is he wearing a glove?
Halfway through the movie he put the glove on. I'm like,
I don't know what this glove is about. Why he's
wearing it. Is he trying to keep his hand moisturized.
(43:50):
I don't understand it's a golf glove. Now that I
see he has the glove.
Speaker 2 (43:53):
On the wrong hand. My man Got eight.
Speaker 4 (43:54):
Kids kind of looks like John Goodman in this in
this role, yeah, yeah, he was the guy in the chair.
Speaker 1 (44:02):
He was the one sort of operating the drone and
he pushed the button to fire the missiles whenever they
needed it. There are a lot of things in this
movie that they like touched on but never paid off,
the biggest one being Russell Crow's.
Speaker 2 (44:19):
Wife is pregnant. Right, He's like this ninth kid, his
ninth kid.
Speaker 1 (44:24):
She's like about to go into labor like any moment now, right,
Like there's this tension of like here I am, I'm
trying to get these soldiers out of harm's way, but
also I need all these other guys to listen for
the phone ringing because my wife might go into labor.
I'm gonna have to go and like nothing ever really happens.
Speaker 2 (44:42):
She never had do you ever have?
Speaker 4 (44:44):
The whole point of that was just so they don't
pick up the phone during the game. That that was it.
Speaker 6 (44:49):
Like yeah, Like I was just like like this is
you know, it's like the theory of in storytelling what
they say, you know, checkof's gun, right, Like the whole
theory being if you introduce a gun in a story,
like at some point it has to go off, right,
you build that tension eventure, the gun goes off.
Speaker 1 (45:05):
Like That's sort of what I felt like with the pregnancy, right,
Like they made a big deal about like it's gonna
happen any moment. Now, she's gonna call, be sure to
answer the phone, and like the closest we got was
like him at the store buying vegan cheese, Like that
was it.
Speaker 3 (45:18):
They hated vegans getting tortuned. Yeah, vegans.
Speaker 1 (45:22):
Whoever wrote this movie must have like dated a vegan
and the relationship went bad or something like this movie
crapped all over vegans.
Speaker 4 (45:30):
Every other line was like worse, she's vegan.
Speaker 2 (45:33):
Like like.
Speaker 1 (45:36):
Just just ripping on vegans, like for no real reason.
Speaker 4 (45:40):
Numerous times I was like did I miss something because
like all of a sudden, we jumped to a completely
new scene and like I rewound and I was, oh no,
this just happened.
Speaker 5 (45:51):
Him shopping getting tortured like that's literally.
Speaker 4 (45:57):
They also pull a Fast and the Furious because in
The Fast and the Furious at one point they drop
like a nuke and Dom stands between two like chargers
and nothing touches him. Liam's hen was Worth just goes
down into a batsub as the entire caves explode, and
then he just pops right out.
Speaker 1 (46:15):
He's in a cold plunge and everything is okay. Uh,
Debro jumped in, Man, what's up, de bro?
Speaker 2 (46:20):
How you doing, fellow?
Speaker 4 (46:21):
What's up?
Speaker 2 (46:22):
What's up? Good to see you here? What up? Bro?
Speaker 4 (46:25):
What are your thoughts on Land of Bad?
Speaker 1 (46:27):
Yeah, we're talking about bad action movie from Netflix because
this is the portion of the stream where we just
talk about movies. Hopelly, we see you in Canton for
the expo for it to catch it up with you
there if you were going to be there this year.
Uh yeah, I did laugh at that that Liam Hemsworth
goes down into a cold plunge and escapes a major
explosion and your bombs dropping on caves sort of thing as.
Speaker 4 (46:50):
His hands, his hand stayed out of the tub and
his hands were fine.
Speaker 2 (46:55):
His hands were fine.
Speaker 4 (46:57):
I was like, what is this.
Speaker 3 (46:58):
That's his tooth that came out after you got hit
in the face with the hammer.
Speaker 2 (47:02):
You got hitting the face with the hammer and his
tooth popped out.
Speaker 3 (47:04):
I couldn't even tell what that was. It didn't look
like a tooth.
Speaker 2 (47:06):
Yeah, it's a tooth. It was What the heck was that?
Speaker 1 (47:10):
But for all the things that were sort of sketchy
and kind of ridiculous, none was more ridiculous than the
final sequence where Liam Hemsworth Sergeant Kenney is trying to
call for help right like, we're escaping, but we need
you to call off the air strike. It's coming, and
they put on the clock minute forty nine seconds. Russell
(47:33):
Crowe is in line at the grocery store.
Speaker 2 (47:38):
And somehow in a minute and forty eight.
Speaker 1 (47:40):
Seconds, because he gets there with one second to spare,
he goes from being in the grocery store to jumping
in his car to driving to sin and.
Speaker 4 (47:49):
There's there's delays, like he's sitting in the car waiting
for the fence to open.
Speaker 1 (47:53):
So like like wait, you're telling it he did this
in like just over ninety seconds.
Speaker 2 (48:00):
Yeah, that's what we're talking about.
Speaker 1 (48:01):
Yes, Russell crow grabbing vegan products in the store one
second and then saving a life in it. Like literally
he's asking about like cash you plant based vegan something
something cheese and in a minute forty gets to sentcom
busts in the room, gets on the mic and says
a port which the fact that the pilot somehow was
(48:26):
able to just not hit the button like in that.
Speaker 2 (48:29):
Instant flit second second and just keep flying. That's why
I was like, all right, man, like yeah, I would also.
Speaker 4 (48:38):
Love that only only the commander is a is a
Tennessee fan, but everyone in that room is invested as
if they are on the team. Like they're like, yeah,
we can't talk right now, Tennessee's on, and like I'm like,
you have a huge mission going on, Like it's crazy.
Speaker 2 (48:55):
Huge, crazy.
Speaker 1 (48:57):
I did love, by the way, to Australian acts pretending
that they were from Ohio. Yeah, Russell Crowe and Liam's
Himsworth talking all about being from Ohio and talking about
the Ohio State Buckeyes and this and that.
Speaker 2 (49:11):
I'm like.
Speaker 4 (49:14):
When Reaper's like, oh Ohio State just lost and he's like,
you're trying to make me more sad.
Speaker 1 (49:19):
And like, yeah, man, no, you guys should be talking
about like footy, right and like veg, I'm being supers.
Speaker 4 (49:28):
The one thing that was kind they used actual NCAA
tournament footage for that. Yeah, like that was kind of
interesting to me.
Speaker 2 (49:36):
That was kind of cool. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (49:39):
Yeah, Usually it's like a generic jersey like barely able
to make a layup.
Speaker 1 (49:43):
Or it's like or sometimes they'll use real footage, but
like they'll you know, it'll be blurred or like the
TV so far away you can't really tell what it
is sort of thing.
Speaker 4 (49:53):
So they had a zoom up of them like at
one point it was only like if you walked in,
you'd be like, oh, you're watching college basketball bactly.
Speaker 1 (50:01):
So yeah, I think we're all agreed, like this is
this is the only time we're gonna ever see this movie.
Speaker 4 (50:06):
It's not Extraction, man, Like I would rewatch Extraction. They
couldn't afford that, you know. What happened was like this
was like the a bunch of stuff they got left
on the the writer's room floor for Extraction. They were
like it, why don't we just run it back? With
your little brother.
Speaker 1 (50:19):
Yeah, yeah, so yeah, I don't know if we have
we never we never picked another movie.
Speaker 2 (50:26):
Yet, have we?
Speaker 4 (50:28):
I will be here next Thursday?
Speaker 1 (50:29):
So all right, extra is it out? Is Extraction three
out yet? And also John Berthall is actually in it?
Because if John Birthall is in it, then I'm sure there.
Then I'm for sure there.
Speaker 3 (50:42):
In out album two? As like the Bad Guy?
Speaker 4 (50:45):
Is he the bad I'm excited for three.
Speaker 2 (50:47):
He's super sketchy, he really sketchy.
Speaker 1 (50:51):
If I can make a suggestion here, uh the Old Guard,
I know the Old Guard too just came out, but
the first Old Guard, which I believe is uh sure
least their own debro being shocked that there's a third extraction, Yeah,
not yet.
Speaker 2 (51:11):
Has it been released yet?
Speaker 1 (51:12):
We just keep hearing that it's uh, you know, it's
due sometime in twenty twenty five, which they're running out
of year, right, I mean we're mid through July.
Speaker 4 (51:22):
Do you think the Hemsworth brothers get together and discuss
like then they had me like fly through six buildings
and shoot someone mid air, like right?
Speaker 1 (51:33):
So I was saying this though, like Tyler Rake clears
Sergeant Kinney by Miles Miles miles.
Speaker 4 (51:41):
There's no time. Rake would have had everyone out of there,
alive and well in ten.
Speaker 2 (51:44):
Minutes and been home for lunch.
Speaker 4 (51:46):
Yeah, this dog wouldn't miss a meal, never does.
Speaker 1 (51:50):
You could have seen he could have seen the second
half of the Tennessee game, for sure. He could have
brought the second half of Tennessee. That's all I know.
Speaker 2 (51:58):
Why are we sending it in.
Speaker 4 (51:59):
A whole team so we could send in one dude.
Speaker 1 (52:01):
To send in Tyler Rake? And there it is, you
can never die. It is my soldier movie. Ye Debro say,
my soldier movie was better than your soldier movie. I
got shot and lived Havoc.
Speaker 4 (52:12):
We watched Havoc.
Speaker 2 (52:13):
He did watch Havoc. Havoc was so much gun.
Speaker 4 (52:16):
So I think I liked Havoc more than Land of Bad.
Speaker 1 (52:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (52:20):
Oh, is it making the rankings though, Havoc's definitely above that.
Speaker 4 (52:24):
Yeah? Yeah, I would put the two extractions, then Havoc,
then Land of Bad.
Speaker 2 (52:27):
Yeah, I think that's fair.
Speaker 4 (52:29):
I don't know if we've watched any other movie the
other part.
Speaker 1 (52:34):
I think before we get out of here, apparently there's
something about the Hymnsworth boys jumping off of waterfalls, right
because Chris did that in Extraction Remen. He sat underneath
the water and just like was like meditating under the
water and then we amble to jump off a waterfall.
You know how hard that is? Did you have rocks
in it?
Speaker 4 (52:52):
So? You know?
Speaker 2 (52:52):
I was on vacation.
Speaker 1 (52:53):
I was in San Diego and we had some pool
time at the hotel we were at, and like, I
did try to just like sit like you float, like
you float off the bottom of the.
Speaker 3 (53:03):
You really tried to do the extraction you say.
Speaker 2 (53:06):
It like, I was like, all right, I've got some
rocks and.
Speaker 4 (53:09):
Blow all the air out of your lungs and then
you won't float as much, but then you also have
no air in your lungs and start panicking.
Speaker 1 (53:16):
So like, yeah, I really did try that. I'm like,
I'm like Chris Himsworth is full of crap.
Speaker 2 (53:23):
So yeah, so there you go.
Speaker 4 (53:26):
G I also love though one. In this movie. They
were the worst shooters in the world. But then he
jumps in the waterfall and they just give up. They're like,
oh well he must be gone forever now, no way
he could reverse reverse havoc.
Speaker 3 (53:40):
We saved the bullets in this movie.
Speaker 1 (53:41):
Yeah, they start throwing him at him like, yeah, well,
Land of Bad, thanks for your but we're not we're
not coming back to that one. Uh.
Speaker 2 (53:52):
We will be back on Tuesday though for another podcast.
Speaker 5 (53:55):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (53:56):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (53:56):
We're talking about something. I'm gonna pull back the curtain.
We don't really plan super far in advance, Like, well.
Speaker 4 (54:04):
We'll talk about I will be here. That's all you
guys need to know next week.
Speaker 1 (54:07):
Usually what happens is that on Monday, you know, we
send out a text like, hey, what do you guys
want to talk about? And then that's how the rundown
gets formed. So we'll be back on Tuesday with another show.
We appreciate all y'all hanging out in the chat. We
appreciate all of you guys participating. Always a fun time.
And that'll do it for this edition of the Fantasy
Cheat Sheets. They happy, safe and healthy, do good and
live well for THEA Kwan for Florio for a producer
(54:29):
Gavin Enjoy the weekend, everybody. We'll talk to you next
week
What's up, everybody. Welcome to another edition of the Fantasy
cheat Sheet.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
First one we've all been together for in a while.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
It's nice Marcus Granty when Michael and Floyda and Lakwan Jones.
Happy Thursday, fellas we are one step closer to training
camp starting.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
How are we feeling.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
Friday, Junior, Let's go, It's Friday, Junior.
Speaker 4 (00:29):
I like that the weekends are getting very very short
until we don't have them anymore.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Yeah, yeah, you know it's funny because I you know,
I'm I'm back to.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Doing serious XM on Saturdays starting this week.
Speaker 4 (00:43):
I mean, it's all three of us, but on different shows.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
On different shows.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
You know, one of these days, maybe maybe we should
talk to the people in charge over there and maybe
they'll give.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Us our own show together.
Speaker 4 (00:51):
Please.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
But yeah, I know, the the weekends are getting short,
the time off is getting short. Football is going to
be back before we know it. So we are here
as we are. I'm just say every Thursday, but not
really a lot of Thursdays. I just sort of fill
your ear holes with fantasy football and other nonsense.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
Semi regular, semi regular.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Right.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
It's like it's like how a thing used to be
like the you know, the annual such and such awards,
and then like one year they have to stop, and
then it just becomes like, you know, the thirty second
yo such and such awards.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
That's kind of what this is right now.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
Anyway, we gotta have to talk about We're gonna give
some scott Fish Bowl updates because that is going I
should check and see make sure that I am OTC
on the clock.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
I don't believe I am, Marcus.
Speaker 4 (01:36):
You would have lost your mind. In my draft yesterday.
I told you guys that you get a like a
OTC goes out the minute someone's on the clock. Yeah,
I'm the only West Coaster in my league. I'm pretty sure.
And at like eleven thirty last night, so like two
thirty in the morning Eastern someone got hit with an OTC.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Oh no way, Oh that's ridiculous.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
Yeah, go to bed exactly.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Uh, yeah, I know I'm not on the clock yet,
I'm still five picks away.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
They'll let you know.
Speaker 5 (02:07):
You don't have to have to check anymore.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
My my division has been very chill about this sort
of thing, so it's been it's been cool.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Let's up, Christian, thanks for popping in.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Yeah, we have not had I think I think we
had one just because I think somebody was like, you know,
meeting or stuck somewhere until like the clock ran down
to like it got under four hours, and then that's.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Like, hey, by the way, you're on the clock. That
I'm cool with.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Right, if you've gone more than half the clock and
nothing's happened, then I'm cool with giving.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Somebody a little nudge of a reminder.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
You don't have to hit them with it. As soon
as you make your pick, you know it's fine. They'll
figure it out, especially over eight hours.
Speaker 4 (02:45):
I got hit with it yesterday. I clicked it and
it was like seven hours fifty eight minutes and something seconds,
so I was on the clock for less than two minutes.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
We are all so connected to our phones, probably to
our own detriment, that over the course of eight hours
we will see.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
If we are on the click.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
For sure, we'll talk about the forty nine ers wide
receiver room, mostly because I just want to make Lakwan
have to talk about the forty nine ers.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
Forty paint that picture before you guys fight.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Oh, we know what it's going to be.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
It's gonna be him being salty and like grudgingly admitting
you know, yeah, maybe there's value there, but they also
try to throw some elbows at the same time because
he can't be objective about it.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
I can.
Speaker 5 (03:24):
I can be honest. I'm just blunt honest. I want
the team to burn. I hate their fans, Like, I
don't want to see you guys win.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
I know that's fine, but you have to be able
to That's fine, okay, but like you still have.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
To be able to like give honest analysis it I do.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
Jordan Mason is my favorite.
Speaker 5 (03:42):
Like that was my fantasy baby, Like that's a forty
nine er, that was real, that happened.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
I forgot about RB three here.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
Yeah, yeah, arvy threes don't count RB three here.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
To fact, his love for ARV three is.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
Trump his hatred for forty nine ers.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Oh man, we will do a movie today.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Land of Bad is what we watched as we continue
our dive into Netflix action. Uh, diving into Netflix action movies.
We watched the two Extraction movies with Chris Himsworth, so
it felt like a nice transition to watch a movie
and starring his brothers.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Liam the star Luke also involved in the movie as well,
so the other hymns worths there. We'll talk about that
a little bit later on the show. Quick update though,
so how far are you? I know, Lakwan, you're done.
We we don't even know your full roster for scott
Fish Bowl. Oh you mentioned you mentioned like you did
seven picks, although you were sort of you know, half
in the bag, you half in the pool and half
(04:40):
in the bag for the first several.
Speaker 5 (04:44):
Looking for my shoes at one point because somebody knocked
it in the pool and that was just unfortunate.
Speaker 4 (04:51):
Like like like slides or like sneakers, like my slides
like in that they That's why I want to put
sure that you see that I have no socks on
because they were soaking wet and there was an uber
ride to my airbnb to get more socks, so I had.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
How many do you need socks?
Speaker 4 (05:09):
Yeah? Why do you wear socks to the pool?
Speaker 5 (05:12):
Because I didn't listen, man, I didn't want to go
barefooted with the toes out and stuff, like I didn't
get them pedicured up or nothing like that.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
Like I mean, okay, what you're at the pool, you
don't need socks like everybody everybody have.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
The people there got rusty feet, like you don't have to.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Rusty feet is crazy, Rusty.
Speaker 4 (05:30):
How many glizzies did you eat?
Speaker 3 (05:33):
Oh my god, that is one hell of a question.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
You or Troy King.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
Troy actually got sick from the night before, so he
had too many glizzies.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
Too many glizzies in the belly.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
Paul, too many glizzies. Uh yeah, So quick out there.
I do see some I see some comments, some questions
in the chat. We will get to those. Please please
hang on, we will get to those as well.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
Talking glizzies disease.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
So I'm looking at the a DPS right If you
go to a Fantasy Live dot com, they have the
scott fish Bowl tool there, the tool that Ryan McDowell
created a couple of several years ago at this point,
which is incredible, incredibly accurate, incredibly detailed, updates regularly. It
has a DPS. Uh, it has you know who drafted
(06:21):
which players, all that sort of stuff. Right now, the
number one pick in most leagues is Jean Robinson.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
Yes, let's go.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
I mean I didn't honestly, I didn't plan this, but yeah,
that was that was totally not planned.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
It just sort of worked out that way.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
I mean, I guess it surprises me a little bit
in the sense that, you know, it's a super flex league,
I would think that more people would go QB at
that top spot.
Speaker 4 (06:57):
Yeah, my my league, like barely anyone took. Like, there
are teams we're in the ninth round. There are teams
with no quarterbacks. Oh dang, wow, there's one team that
has nothing but wide receivers. I very much misread my
draft room because I started QBQB and then I was like,
if I knew everyone was gonna draft like this is
(07:18):
a one QB league, I wouldn't have done that.
Speaker 5 (07:20):
Well, one in my league too over Josh Allen and
Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
So Rock Bowers when one in mind Rock Bowers, Wow,
that's chasing the format.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
You know, that's definitely chasing the format. And I think
here's the thing about Scott Fishball. Because there are so
many people and so many divisions, you're going to get
basically every permutation of draft strategy I think you can get.
And it's so hard I think to accurately gauge what
your draft room is going to be because you just
(07:54):
don't know. I mean, here it is, I'm waiting. We
are in round five, of my my Division one team
already has three quarterbacks.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
Yeah, wow, exact the opposite of mine.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Three three three of the first five picks or quarterbacks.
And so I mean they're rocking Joe Burrow, Patrick Mahomes,
bow Knicks and their wide receivers of Brian Thomas and
Garrett Wilson.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Those are their five picks.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
They didn't even need bo Knicks out of that.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
But I'm happy they took him though. But I'm just saying,
you mean Buck is gonna get drafted. I mean it's
not he was gonna sit there and wait if this
person didn't take.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
Him, because undrafted in a super flex league.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Super flex league. Wow. Some of the other picks that
are some of the other guys that are going first.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Uh, Jamar Chase, no surprise, Saquon not really a surprise there,
Jamior Gibbs, Lamar Jackson, Josh Allen, Ashton Genty, John Ty
has gone first. Uh, Brock Bowers, which we know we
don't leave that is we're at first.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Jaden Daniels has gone first. Christian McCaffrey has gone at
number one. Oh, that's that's I.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
Think that was Brian Drake. Actually I saw him tweeting
about that.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
All right, Wow, Trey McBride, I see has gone number one.
Uh and Devon ah Chan. So I think those are
all the guys who taking number one.
Speaker 4 (09:15):
I get it, I guess.
Speaker 5 (09:18):
But I'm looking at Chase falling to me at eight
and he's going one, and I feel like that's huge
value on me.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Yeah, definitely value for you for sure.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
Oh absolutely, yeah, so very it was it was Brian
Drake who took CMC at one dot one.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
That's the part of this.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
Because it is so hard to win this thing, sometimes
it's just fun to take a wild swing, a big
swing at them. Was it last year that Kate Moduke
took a Kicker number one? Yeah, I believe that happened
with that, but I think but but I think her
her logic was, look, man, it's so hard to win.
(09:56):
I'm just gonna do something fun, right, Just do something fun,
something that people are to talk about a year later,
still talking about it. So uh yeah, So I'm I'm
I'm waiting to get back on the clock. So wait,
how far are you now, Florio? Uh? I am two
picks away from my ninth round pick. Oh all right,
so I started lamar Jackson. As I told you guys,
(10:20):
I forgot about the third round reversal. I was all
set at the end of round two to just double
back up and take a third round pick, and I hit.
I hit the pick, and then I'm like, wait, why
am I not on the clock again? I'm like, oh,
that's right, the last guy. Yeah, so I took Drake London.
Uh at the end of the second round. I had
to wait for it to come back around. And after
(10:42):
our discussion yesterday end, they're taking Lad McConkie and Terry McLaurin,
so boo. So who was I supposed to take?
Speaker 5 (10:55):
I don't know, but it just seems too fresh all
the fire knee.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
But it's also because of the guys that were gone, right,
the other receivers that I mean, I took Drake London,
so then the receivers that went ahead of him, Brian Thomas, A. J. Brown, Nicocollins,
and so then you know, McLaurin and mconkey were the
two best receivers on the board at that point.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
So so yeah, yeah, that's a good price.
Speaker 5 (11:19):
Then and again it's Scott Fish, Scott Fishball, Scott Fish.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Yeah all right, yeah, but if you want to check
out kind of how things are going, where the what
the ADPs are for certain teams or for certain players.
Rather go to fantasylife dot com look up their scott
Fish Bowl tool. In fact, they may have a link
to it right on the front page if I'm not mistaken,
But just yeah, go check out.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
In fact they had. They recently redid their website. It
looks great.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
So shout out to Matthew Berry and the folks over
Fantasy Life for what they put together over there. We'll
get a couple of these questions because we got people
they have they have concerns. Matt Bubar our pal from
the network, ask you what do each of you feel
about Dobbins in Denver?
Speaker 2 (12:02):
Is it time to panic? If we like R J.
Harvey Lakwan, the floor is yours?
Speaker 3 (12:07):
Are you serious? This is a one two punch here.
Speaker 5 (12:09):
I think I've explained this on previous episodes, like this
is going to be the Alvin Kamara and the mark
Ingram version of what he has in Denver under Sean Payton,
and like I think JK. Dobbins is more so going
to be there to keep the change moving. He's an
efficient runner. The arch will carry great vision, be able
to get the first downs in etc.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
RJ.
Speaker 5 (12:25):
Harvey's the explosive back to be the pass catcher of
this backfield, to be able to be the PPR giant.
That's why I'm taking him in the fifth round. I'm
not even blinking or looking any other way. I'm feeling
like I'm accomplished when I get him as my RB too,
just with so much upside in this offense.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Yeah, you know, I feel about Sean Payton.
Speaker 4 (12:45):
He's a liar.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
I know I feel about how Sean Payton feels about us.
I guess.
Speaker 5 (12:50):
He's not.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
Look, he's not worse than Arthur Smith. He is the
Fantasy Streets boogeyman.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
For Arthur Smith either. I'm just saying he's not as
that's more of a liar.
Speaker 5 (13:01):
And Sean McVay he's on that cuss of being a
liar with his running backs as well. But we shall
see this season.
Speaker 4 (13:06):
Yeah, Dobbins is certainly a bigger threat than anyone that
was on the roster. Like I have lowered R. J.
Harvey in my like, I still like Harvey. I was
big on him before the draft process and stuff like
during the draft process, but JK. Dobbins like gives Sean
Payton the option to pull Sean paytonisms now like before that,
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I don't think they had another back that he could do.
So like, I still like R. J. Harvey, but I
do think we should get a little bit of a like.
I have him amongst the rookies. I have him behind
like Hampton, I have him behind Trevon Henderson now and
prior to the Dobbins signing, that might have been a
little different.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
Yeah, I mean I do think we can we can
chill on the Audric estimate Julia mclough. Yeah no, And man,
look Sean Payton was out here hyping up Audric Guestimy
bottomlenth Ago. Right, So back to why that's my point
about Sean mcvaig Sean Payton. Rather, you know, sometimes he's
(14:07):
a liar and the truth is not in him at
least when it comes to player usage, and he doesn't
like us. Uh zer rolsty wants in our thoughts on
Kyle Williams.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
Oh, that's a Florio question.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
All right, How do you feel?
Speaker 4 (14:19):
I really like him? I love him as a prospect,
and I do want to say like he's very good
at certain things. Like he is phenomenal at turning screens
into long plays, and he is really good at stretching
the field the intermediate portion of the field, which I
believe is the hardest area for wide receiver to find
consistent success. He needs some work there, But yeah, I
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think he could be a really good Best ball player
who has the potential. I'm throwing a lot of late
round darts on him because I do think he has
the potential to break out. I'm not telling you like
he's going to be a Week one slam dunk or
anything like that, but I do think with him and
Drake May and stuff like that, there's the potential for
a lot of big plays in this offense.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
Yeah, I've done multiple Drake Makee Kyle Williams stacks in
Best Ball, you know, just because of the prices. Yeah,
what the price is and what the potential upside is,
Like it's worth the squeeze to try that.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
I would think in redraft leagues.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
You know, he's sort of a draft and stash sort
of thing, you know, see kind of what happens is there. Yeah,
he's kind of a watchless guy. I you know, you
could probably even wait, you may even be on the
waiver wire. I think in a lot of leagues you'll
be on the waiver wires. So with the guy to
keep your eye on, and you know, if after you know,
whatever week a couple weeks of the preseason or week
one or two of the regular season, it looks like
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there's some life there.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
I think you could probably go pick him up.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
So yeah, I mean I think there's upside, just don't
go crazy with it at this point.
Speaker 5 (15:47):
Still a Patriots player at the end of the day.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
I mean, look, we'll see now that Bill Belichick's out
of the building's been out of the building for a
couple of years. We'll see if they get better at
scouting that position.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
He has a little light spot wounds in the building.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
That's true.
Speaker 4 (16:02):
Last year they didn't even bother that is true. They
were just like, all right, we're going with whatever wide
receivers we got.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
Well, I mean, look, we remember we tried to be
excited about like Javon Baker and those guys last year,
and like.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
That didn't work.
Speaker 4 (16:16):
The answer was Hunter Henry.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
Yeah, that was a great answer, right, It was not
even a great answer, you know, the Mario Douglas Kaishaon
Booty still kind of leading away.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Uh yeah. A question from Christian Rogers.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
Should we be worried about a running back committee in
the Chargers backfield?
Speaker 2 (16:35):
I am concerned. Yes, I think you should be a
little concerned.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
Yeah, I mean I think I think what they're putting
together for that offense, they bring in Najie Harris, and
I think it's gonna be sort of similar to what
we saw with the Steelers, right, I mean, I think
I think that's kind of kind of how it's split.
You know, both guys will be okay, not great just
(17:01):
because of usage. Yeah, I mean I think we should
definitely be concerned about it. I think Hampton's going too high.
Speaker 5 (17:10):
Like I think by the time August comes around, he's
going to be way too high for me to be interested, because,
like we already spoke about RJ.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
Harvey, I rather RVE than Hampton.
Speaker 5 (17:18):
Of where these guys are going close to ADP, Like,
that's a no brainer for me, because I think Nag's
going to be that thorn in the side and it's
going to be in all areas of the field.
Speaker 4 (17:27):
Yeah, now just go I don't love taking nausey, but
he's going late.
Speaker 5 (17:31):
He's he's an RB three, RB four at at at best,
you know, So it's like I'll take that as a flex,
you know, if he pops in and has a good game.
Speaker 4 (17:38):
And two, I cause a little bit of a ruckus
on Twitter a couple of weeks ago, but I pointed
out that uh Hampton has to deal with Nausey, who
this current regime brought in. Harvey has to deal with Dobbins,
who this current regime brought in. But then there's Trevon
Henderson who has to deal with Mantre Stevenson, who was
from the old regime. I think that matters. Like I
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think the fact that a new team, like new coaching
staff came in and we're like, we're gonna use one
of our top picks on a running back, to me,
that that signals that, like they want to move on
at that position.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
Yeah, I mean I think I think so.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
I like, yeah, I think there's there's less commitment to
a guy who's already been there, right if you're a
new coaching staff and you weren't necessary. Although with the
Patriots again, just because as you mentioned, Lakwan, it's it's
sort of Belichick's minions, Like is it different that way
it's like, well, hey, Bill brought this guy in and
(18:35):
and Bill, you know, sort of groomed him and gave
him a spot. Uh you know, then you know, maybe
we'll give him the opportunity. I don't know, I'm I'm
just kind of spitballing here with Stevenson.
Speaker 4 (18:47):
Uh. He was the backup when Josh McDaniel was there,
and then when he left, that's when Stevenson kind of
became the starter over Damien Harris. So like, I don't know,
I'm I know, I'm I'm kind of using context clues
here stuff, But to me, it tells me.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
That's all we got. Man.
Speaker 4 (19:03):
Yeah, they want Henderson to be the guy if he
like Ramondre's a really nice fallback option. But if Henderson
is who we think he is, I experience less he.
Speaker 5 (19:13):
Has less of a threat than most of the rookie
running backs because Stevenson the funnel issues, the explosiveness, and like,
I do feel like the old regime is like basically
done in Wash with Ramondre Stephen. He was bench for
Antonio Gibson last year. You know, so I do, I
do get the logic a trivion Henderson having less of
a threat, but we could say the same thing with RJ.
Harvey with JK. Dobbinson's health. I'm just saying I'm going
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to campaign for R. J. Harvey until week eighteen, where
we're going to be saying RJ.
Speaker 4 (19:40):
Harvey's a top ten running back. Who do you think
leads them in? He look catches alone, he could get
him there. But who do you think leads that team
and goal on carries? Is it Harvey? Is it Dobbins?
Is it Nicks? Is it one of the other running backs?
Because that's what we gotta worry about.
Speaker 5 (19:56):
That we don't have answers to today.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
We'll get back to your questions in just a little bit.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
Wanted to kind of turn our attention to the forty
nine ers wide receiver room because it was a topic
that came up at the end of the pario on Tuesday,
because he just wants to see a fight, like I'm
just gonna tell you that I'm not I'm not gonna
I'm just gonna sit and listen to the Kwan and
just take everything he says with a grain of salt.
Speaker 4 (20:21):
In like ADP right now, though Juwan Jennings is like
in the late thirties at wide receivers. You get Ricky Piersoll,
who's somewhere in the forties, like usually early, and then
you get Brandon Ayukhu's in the like after the top
fifty wide receivers. I know that's health related and stuff,
but feels like they're all really good values to me.
(20:43):
But I am ready for you to just eviscerate the MLKY.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
Yeah, so how about how about just let's just get
this part out of the way so then we can
actually have a productive conversation. So I'll talk about how
you know all three of these dudes, should you know
play on the Golden gate Bridge during rush hour traffic
or something like that, Like, just just get it out
of your system now and then we'll have a real conversation.
Speaker 4 (21:06):
It's not even like that.
Speaker 5 (21:07):
Like again, I want to be objected. I want to
be truthful and honest, but I do feel like, you know,
Ricky Piersoll, he's getting a little bit of too much
of a hype off of very little sample size that
we've gotten. I haven't seen anything that you know, from
the college stape that we've seen of him being this
standout wide receiver three or four, Like there's a chance
that he can end up being like the fourth target
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of this offense, you know, when Brandon au comes back.
But I like Juwan Jennings more than drafting Brandon Ayuke,
just based on that first you know, first six to
seven games that we saw Auk and Jennings kind of existing.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
Even with one less game, Jennings still had the same
amount of receptions, he had more yards. He was very
productive and efficient with his opportunities, where Brandon Aiyuk had
that slow start because he was holding out. So I'm
supposed to be led to believe that. You know, even
if I take Brandon and you as a wide receiver
four or five, very late outside the top fifty, I
feel like it's a waste to pick because he's coming
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back with a timetable most likely a month of football
already passed him and then probably like October, Like we
look at the seven weeks that he had last season,
he had no touchdowns. I mean, rock Perty was terrible
when targeting him. He had a fifty three percent completion percentage,
which was the lowest percent percentage out of the pass catcher.
So I feel like there's a disconnect there now and
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now when he's coming back from injury. It's gonna have
to be waiting until we get to the fantasy playoffs
where I don't like drafting like that anymore.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
Guys.
Speaker 5 (22:27):
Jonathan Brooks has scarred me. I don't want to do
that again. I don't want to sit there and all
blow up, you know. And like when you look at
Juwan Jennings and what he brings to the offense's versatility,
and I think that's a lot different from where Brandon
Nyuk and Ricky piersoll on, etcetera, etcetera. Because he was
the most efficient slot wide receiver last year, folks. And
that includes your boy Lab McConkie over there Florio with
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a two point nine yards for rock run. For all
to an analytical nerds out there that cares about that,
But I'm just saying facts. Juwan Jennings looked the best
playmaker on that forty nine ers offense, and I'm floor.
I mean, look, MG, I know you remember that Rams
game Week three earlier in the season where he's one
hundred and seventy five yards a game.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
We still won the third and.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
Third in Juwan was a real thing, you know. Third
and Juwan was a real thing for the last few years.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
It hasn't look Remember two years ago, there was a
stretch of about ten fifteen game minutes when it looked
like Juwan Jennings might be a Super Bowl MVP, right,
I mean it looked that way for a while. So
I you know, I think Juwan Jennings is a playmaker
on this offense. I just I think people are a
little too scared of the Brandon Ayuk thing.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
Last year was bad. Agree was no way around it.
Last year was just back. There was there was the.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
Holdout, There was what him on like was it on
on ig or like live streaming with Jade and Daniels.
You know, there's all these rumors about he's gonna go
to Washington. Is he gonna you know, reunite with his
college buddy.
Speaker 4 (23:54):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (23:54):
You know, then he finally shows up in camp. He
hadn't really worked out, he looked out of shape, and
then he gets hurt after sething Like everything about last
year was bad. The injury is a little bit of
a concern, and the rehab and that the timeline for that.
But knowing that he's at least playing I even not
playing Nate for a forty nine or future, he is
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still playing for a future somewhere and when he is right,
Brandon Nyuk is still incredibly talented. I said back in
twenty twenty two, before that season started that he had
surpassed Deebo Samuel at that point to be the wide
receiver number one in that offense. Two years ago he
gave me thirteen hundred yards and seven touchdowns. A year
before that one thousand yards and eight touchdowns. When he
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is motivated, and I think he is motivated again, if
not to show out for the forty nine ers, but
to show out for the thirty one other teams that
might take a chance on him. I just think him
being wide receiver fifty one right now, is everybody playing
scared at least when it comes to draft. I think
it's everybody playing.
Speaker 4 (25:01):
I'm with MG on this one because two years ago
Brandon Aiyuk had maybe the most efficient wide receiver season
in NFL history, Like he had the most yards ever
for the amount of targets he saw. So I know
last year was bad, but we can't just like men
in Black two years ago either and just act like
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that never happened. So to me, he is being drafted
way closer to his floor than his ceiling, and even
if the first few weeks, like you don't have to
draft him as a starter and there's no bys or
anything like that the first few weeks of the season.
So even if he's not out there, and I think
he's it's a possibility he's out there week one because
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he tore it in October. Uh, so like he could
be out there week one even if he's not, though,
like I don't need him week one, So I tend
to see him as upside that you're not. Like if
he goes, if he jumps ten spots higher in the
wide receiver rankings, then I'm gonna be like, yeah, you're
now he's getting pulled up too much. But I've been
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taking him all summer, and I think all of the
forty nine ers are values because Juwan Jennings is is
that volume play. I mean, he like he didn't have
a thousand yards last year as their top target. But
like so to me, I think Jennings is more of
a safer floor type of play than he is ceiling,
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And I think Ricky Piersoll's kind of in the middle
of that. Like Ricky Pierson led this wide receiver room
in success rate last season, and I think he's very
versatile where he could play out wide at times, he
could play in the slot at times, Like he's like
a chess piece that Kyle Shanahan could use. And again,
the best part is like he's not a top forty
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wide receiver, So I'm not drafting him as a starter,
you know, or if I am, maybe I'm drafting him
as like a flex option something like that. But I mean,
we have seen more really good years out of this
forty nine ers offense than bad so it last year
and in the past. We're taking these guys' top twenty
wide receivers. None of these guys are going top thirty five.
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To me, I think it's a buying opportunity.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
Given you guys thirty years, you still haven't caught us
in Super Bowl titles.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Oh my god, we taken a thirty year, taking a
thirty year break from winning super bowls.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
You still haven't caught us.
Speaker 5 (27:17):
But listen, you guys made it to the Big Dance,
but didn't leave with the hottest chick man, which is
the ring, so that you know the prom king out
here man. We got the ring in twenty twenty one,
first year ever that.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
Time, the Rams scored three points in a super Bowl, the.
Speaker 4 (27:30):
Worst super Bowl I remember, watched the worst super.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
Bowl in history. The Rams were on one side of it.
Speaker 4 (27:35):
And that is why Jared Goof got shipped.
Speaker 5 (27:37):
Okay, that is exactly why he I heard he.
Speaker 4 (27:40):
Talks a lot of istering the quarterback doc about the Rams.
Speaker 5 (27:44):
He's a cry baby, man, get over it.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
It is baby. Did you guys just treat him badly?
Speaker 3 (27:49):
Like he treated his opportunity badly?
Speaker 4 (27:52):
Man?
Speaker 3 (27:53):
I hated that twenty nineteen season.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
I hated it, all right. You guys cute enough to draft?
Speaker 4 (27:58):
You made the Super Bowl, right like I thought.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
I thought he looked good enough to draft the number
one overall.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
I'm just saying he's a Fisher guy, not a McVeigh guy.
Let's get that clear. Just like they has no loyalty
to him, all right?
Speaker 2 (28:10):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (28:10):
Anyway, Yeah, Rickie pierceaw, I would say off this group
is maybe the hardest to sort of to figure out,
just because you know, he was up and down last
year in sort of limited opportunities. You know, he also
was coming off getting shot at the beginning of the
season before the season started. I don't think you can
discount something like that you will be helped by the
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lack of Deebo Samuel.
Speaker 4 (28:34):
Yeah. I also think it's like the way I draft.
I'm taking wide receivers early, so when I get to
this portion of the draft, I've usually spent the last
couple of picks at like running back or tight end
or something. So I'm like, I have like usually like
three really good wide receivers at this point, maybe even four,
and now I'm looking for upside and I think the four.
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But like if you draft the opposite and you're sitting
there and you're thin at one receiver, then you might
not want to roll the dice on, Like you might
be like, hey, Khalils Shakir is in this range and
he's safe for something like that. But yeah, So to me,
maybe it's just the way I build teams, But I
do often find myself being like, it's hard to pass
up some of these forty nine ers wide receiver.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
I do think roster construction matters when you're looking at
forty nine or wide receivers. You know, just because I
think Ricky Piersaw especially, I think you get a little
more stability with a healthy IU and with Juwan Jennings.
But Peersaw is the one where I want to make
sure I've got some other guys to some of the
guys that back me up, just in case.
Speaker 5 (29:37):
Where he's going, where he's going, Like I'd rather pivot
to a Jakobe Myers. I'd rather pivot to the Deebo
Samuel over there and you know in Washington, Like that's
the ranger where he's going at that time, where we
handle the other Ricky first two and three. Why though,
like I I can't, I can't pull the trigger on
it because it's like there's still good wide receivers going
behind him that have proven talent or havn't proven outside you, I.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
Don't think I take Ricky over Debo.
Speaker 4 (30:02):
Yeah, me too, I don't. I don't ever consider Debo.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
I mean, just again, I think you talk about Men
in Blacking the IUX season from two years ago. I
think we whatever the reverse of the Men in Black
is where like it just sticks in your head in
the eye. I mean, that's what the twenty twenty one
season has become. I think for a lot of people
is like, yeah, man, he was amazing in twenty twenty one.
He had fourteen hundred receiving yards he had, you know,
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eight rushing touchdowns, Like.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
I think that's yeah, I don't think.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
I don't think getting paid is what caused the decline,
because if you look at all the other seasons around
that one, they're all kind of similar. Like that's the
one outlier season that he had. I mean, I just
come back to he did a lot of the dirty
work for the Niners offense. He was very good for
real football. He was just kind of yeah in fac.
Speaker 4 (30:52):
I mean, he had eighty one targets last year for
the Niners and finished with six hundred and seventy yards.
Ricky turned forty six targets into four hundred yards. So
like I'd argue, he was performing better, just on a
limited role. Lash and it was such a weird rookie
season like you said, MG.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
Yeah, so uh anyway, Yeah, I think this is fun.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
We can dive into some more wide receiver roums.
Speaker 3 (31:19):
I was objective.
Speaker 4 (31:19):
I was fine, you were objective.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
I would know what I know.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
I will give you your flowers on this when you
you put your biases aside.
Speaker 4 (31:26):
I like some players.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
I just hate the team and fans, that's all.
Speaker 4 (31:30):
But MG, you're the outlier.
Speaker 5 (31:32):
There's like three people I know that are forty nine ers,
fans that are okay, like that are normal.
Speaker 4 (31:36):
Like I don't dislike teams anymore. I just dislike fan bases.
That's how I am nowadays.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
You know what I feel like doing this job and
especially being on social media, you start to dislike fan
bases because you have some people.
Speaker 4 (31:49):
You got that Indiana Pacers.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
Somewhere, some somewhere, chill just went down. Tyree's Halliburton's back.
Speaker 4 (32:01):
He's not thinking about me at all.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
He is not.
Speaker 4 (32:03):
He's like the Thanos me.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
Like a couple of questions here, this one from I
am Corey saying, what is your prediction for bo Nicks
this season and fantasy?
Speaker 4 (32:12):
Is this?
Speaker 2 (32:13):
Is this your burner? What is this is?
Speaker 1 (32:15):
No?
Speaker 2 (32:16):
Absolutely not.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
People are excited about nixtape man and well Ashton john
c finish in the top three running backs. So the
second one I'm gonna say, No, I don't think johnsy
finish is top three.
Speaker 5 (32:29):
It's bold.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
The Raiders just aren't going to score.
Speaker 4 (32:32):
I think it's in the range of outcomes, but it's
not the most likely most likely.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
Yeah it can happen, Yeah, it could happen.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
It just I just don't think the Raiders score enough points.
Speaker 5 (32:44):
I find myself taking Derrick Henry over Ash and Gentine
a lot, like I just smash it because that's like
proven upside of where he can legit finish as the
top five, like gent where.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
That's Kelly and like that's not super spicy, that's mildly
wildly hot.
Speaker 4 (32:58):
And my last rankings update I put gent behind hn
and Henry.
Speaker 3 (33:04):
All right, all right, So Gibbs quon Jeon three two.
Speaker 4 (33:08):
One, Jon Gibbs sa quon Chan, Henry gent going video
game numbers this year?
Speaker 1 (33:19):
Yeah, I think I think I think people are starting
to come back to earth on John c a little bit, right,
Like everybody was super highed and then draft season open
and people are kind of getting crazy with it, and
I think everybody's kind of stopped, like okay, let's.
Speaker 3 (33:32):
Yeah, let's exce. I blame the draft analysts for that.
Speaker 5 (33:35):
There's always an overlap after April where people have that
draft analyst stuck in their head and then they I
was like, I can't take Genty over Derrick Henry or
a Han like that sounds crazy.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
And you got Bonnicks, what top.
Speaker 3 (33:49):
Eight, top six, top top six?
Speaker 4 (33:52):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (33:52):
So then uh, so then obviously we know your answer
to this question.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
Look on about JJ McCarthy or bone Knicks.
Speaker 5 (33:59):
I mean JJ's on so late, like I do, like
waiting on JJ in like the twelve round.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
You know, in one quarter, this is an easy call.
It's like, I don't we have drafted JJ McCarthy, Like
I'm not. I'm willing to draft uh Justin Jefferson. I'm
willing to still take a swing at T. J. Hawkinson.
So I don't know.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
Why I don't want JJ McCarthy, but I just don't.
Speaker 4 (34:21):
I don't mind him as a QB two. I would
never want him as my one.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
I was on a podcast recently as a guest where
the host I think, mostly jokingly but maybe with the
tinge of tinge of seriousness, referred to J McCarthy as
a god to your quarterback. I think it was I'm
gonna say it was like I'm gonna say it was
like ninety five percent joking, but five percent think donald was. Yeah,
(34:54):
So that part, let's see will Mike Williams said this
all with the Undertaker meme and fantasy this season, No.
Speaker 4 (35:01):
Michael, and so I loved Mike Wims for a while.
I think it's over.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
I mean, I just think he sort of is who
he is.
Speaker 3 (35:08):
He's a danger to hisself.
Speaker 5 (35:10):
Every time he tries to catch a ball, he hurts himself.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
Like jeez, danger to himself.
Speaker 4 (35:15):
He tore his a cl and then couldn't jump past,
like Alan Lazard in the y and like other bad
jet receivers.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
For yeah, I don't think it's gonna get a touchdown.
Speaker 4 (35:26):
Though he also had got blamed for a loss after
Aaron Rodgers threw a pick and was like, it's unlike Williams.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
Terrible teammate moment, which, by the way, good luck with that.
DK Metcalf, good luck. Braden wants to know.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
I need thoughts on Jacoby Myers and Cuba Hubbard, two
studs I had last year. Want to go after them again,
but I don't know if they're gonna have the same
type of production.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
I like Cuba. I think Cuba can give you something
similar to what he did last year.
Speaker 4 (36:00):
Little hesitant when it comes to him, though.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
I.
Speaker 3 (36:04):
Yeah, a sexy pick. I would rather over Isaac Isaiah Pacheco.
Speaker 4 (36:08):
Though really I'd rather I gotta look how I have
that ring. But I love me some Pacheco.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
I think I'd rather have Pacheco.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
I think the thing to worry about with Cuba Hubbard
is the ten touchdowns or head eleven total, ten rushing,
one receiving.
Speaker 2 (36:25):
I think that's the thing.
Speaker 4 (36:25):
To sort of worry about is rico'dowell isn't a great
running back, but he's competent.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
He's like he's better.
Speaker 4 (36:31):
Than than Miles Sanders and whatever else was backing him
up before Jonathan Brooks was available.
Speaker 5 (36:38):
You know, yeah, Yeah, he had forty three catches last
year though, and that's that's a huge jump from like
Rico Daddle. I mean, I have to check go ahead
of Cuba.
Speaker 4 (36:49):
Yeah, how far? How far? Four spots apart.
Speaker 1 (36:54):
Man, that's not bad. I'm not gonna argue that he
was like ready to be upset.
Speaker 4 (37:00):
There's a lot of names in that area that you like, though,
like Nixon, Harvey.
Speaker 3 (37:04):
Oh, Mixing is a dog.
Speaker 5 (37:05):
I always love when people doubt Mixing because Mixing is
gonna have three hundred and something touches and he's gonna
have a bunch of targets. And I don't think people
actually like understand like Mixing is still like a really
good running back. Out of that backfield explosiveness, elusive. If
he's hard to bring down, like the goal line carriers
is his there's no backup, like it's just playing itself
out for high end RB two.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
I don't think that's the argument against Joe Mixon.
Speaker 1 (37:27):
I don't think it's it's the week to week and
last year he was a little bit more consistent. Although
the back half of the season was bad. The last
five or six games were not good.
Speaker 3 (37:37):
He was not a playoff hero for.
Speaker 4 (37:39):
He's twenty nine. That's where my concern comes in.
Speaker 1 (37:44):
I just I just don't know, you know, I we
all love the big you know, thirty five point spike
weeks that he gives you, but then he'll follow it
up with like four and a half, you know, Like
that's the problem.
Speaker 3 (37:56):
Players mess up.
Speaker 4 (37:58):
Remember that one year where he was top ten, but
if you took away that like sixty point game, he
was like RB twenty eight or something like that.
Speaker 3 (38:05):
Take away that game it happened, he'd.
Speaker 1 (38:07):
Anything but no, but no, but I mean you can't
take away that game. But you also play more than
one week, right, So like it's one of those things
where he was a league winner, he was a week
winner that one week and then every other week.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
He was sort of mad.
Speaker 1 (38:22):
But when you look at at the end of the season,
you're like, if you like, if you if you've met
in black, right, You're like, oh.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
Yeah, all of a sudden, this is just a new thing.
Speaker 1 (38:30):
This is a new thing. Now we should try to
get a same, right, we get like, oh like, but
if you take that away, if you forget about all that,
you look at you're like, oh, yeah, Joe Mixon was
a top ten running back. Forgetting about like all the
weeks when he was like RB twenty seven, right, like
you sweet about that.
Speaker 4 (38:44):
We had it on Fantasy Live. I think it was
like a weekly thing where we'd be like, here's his stats.
If you take away one game, and like it was
such a big difference. But that's what mix it is, right, Like,
he's going to have a game like that at some
point this year he'll score four touchdowns or something like that.
Speaker 5 (39:00):
Right, he had seven one hundred yard games last year, Like,
I will take that over other guys that we're hoping
to get four, you know, Like he gets the targets,
he gets the opportunities, like I'm always gonna buy in.
Speaker 2 (39:12):
I'll mix it. No matter what.
Speaker 1 (39:14):
All right, uh DG wants to know, is there any
is there ever any logical reason to draft a QB
in the second round and it's ten man league?
Speaker 5 (39:21):
No, I don't play enough ten man So I'm just
gonna say no.
Speaker 4 (39:25):
I mean, it's not something we like to do in
twelve team because you can get good values late.
Speaker 5 (39:30):
So like third is probably like the earliest for me
in twelve I'll go third.
Speaker 4 (39:34):
I think in ten I would even push it.
Speaker 5 (39:36):
Yeah, I probably pushed I pushed it like four or five,
because what is it? It's Lamar, Josh Allen and Jayden
Daniel's probably going in that third.
Speaker 3 (39:44):
I would think in.
Speaker 4 (39:45):
Twelve team leagues, Yeah, in a ten team league you
could get like Bo Nicks and Justin Fields if you want.
Speaker 3 (39:51):
And you're sitting in Pree like yeah, like oh my god.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
Yeah. So the answer to that is a resounding no.
Speaker 1 (40:01):
All Right, thanks for the questions everyone, Right, this is
what everybody wants to hear about us. Talk about a
mediocre Netflix action movie starring Liam's and Liam hims Worth.
Speaker 2 (40:13):
Which was this? So was it on the pod or
was it after the pod?
Speaker 1 (40:17):
Florio when you admitted that you did not know that
Liam and Chris Himsworth were brothers.
Speaker 4 (40:23):
I don't it was. It was either right before we
ended or right I don't know, but yeah, I had
no idea that I Yesterday I put the movie on
and I said to Nicola, I was like, did you
know they're brothers? And she was like, how did you not?
Speaker 1 (40:39):
So yeah, So after we watched Extraction one and two,
starring Chris Himsworth, we decided, let's watch his little brother,
Liam try to be an action star in Land of Bad.
Speaker 2 (40:50):
The premise of the.
Speaker 1 (40:51):
Movie is that he is a basically a droned operator.
His job is to go out with a group of
Marines and he's the one who calls in the drone strikes.
Speaker 2 (41:02):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (41:02):
They are trying to retrieve another captured UH agent, I
have the CIA agent, field agent, what have you. They're
trying to retrieve one who has been captured by a
group of terrorists. Things they wear. They're somewhere in the
jungles somewhere. I'm not even sure if they.
Speaker 3 (41:22):
Bay or something like that.
Speaker 2 (41:23):
They're in Cuba. No, I don't know where they are.
Speaker 4 (41:25):
The caption because I had close cap on and kept
saying speaking Filipino.
Speaker 2 (41:31):
Yeah, maybe they were in the Philippines somewhere. That's right.
They did say it say a lot of that.
Speaker 4 (41:35):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (41:36):
So they go to try and retrieve their lost agent. Uh.
Things go badly and poor liams and Limsworth is on
his own to try and escape. But of course that
doesn't go smoothly either. Uh mayhem, high jinks ensue and
you know, Russell Crowe gets angry a few times.
Speaker 4 (41:57):
Crow he was the best part of the.
Speaker 1 (42:00):
Movie was uh, mister Stamper's question. Yes, Luke Kimsworth is
also related. He is the Luke Ymsworth is actually the
oldest brother.
Speaker 2 (42:12):
He's the one that died. He dies like ten minutes
into the movie, which I was shocked.
Speaker 3 (42:16):
I told I was like that that's his brother.
Speaker 4 (42:19):
Yeah. He was a legit upset because he's like, you're
you're taking Like I know in the movie he's like, oh,
my friend died, but in real life he was like,
you're taking money from my brother.
Speaker 2 (42:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (42:28):
He Uh, he dies fairly early. He is the oldest
of them. Chris is the middle brother and Liam is
the youngest of the three. Just so you have that
all ready to go. So you're lakwan you you as
soon as you logged on the first thing you said
was I have thoughts, So I would like to hear
your thoughts on this film.
Speaker 5 (42:47):
Well, one, I was annoyed at the colonel, like I
hate Tennessee basketball College bab.
Speaker 1 (42:55):
I didn't know you had feelings about Tennessee basketball, Listen.
Speaker 3 (42:58):
I was just so annoyed.
Speaker 5 (42:59):
I was like, this game is not that important, and
what tournament lasts is this long? Like I didn't even
know if the day went by, or like I lost
the sense of the plot in the movie that they
had to rescue somebody by the way, Like when they
at the end found the guy in the cage, I'm thinking,
that's his other boy and he's like, oh, this is
the agent that we're supposed to be, Like there was
never no, Like.
Speaker 4 (43:17):
Yeah, I had no idea who that guy was, Like no,
and I'm just like, what is going on?
Speaker 5 (43:23):
There's always tragedy like every step in a way, like
it was just a mediocre movie at best.
Speaker 1 (43:29):
But I'm just like I probably won't watch this again,
Like I just won't. Oh no, I don't think I'll
ever see this movie again. A loud shirt thick with
like four seas. It's a golf glove that he's wearing.
I'm trying to feel like, why is he wearing a glove?
Halfway through the movie he put the glove on. I'm like,
I don't know what this glove is about. Why he's
wearing it. Is he trying to keep his hand moisturized.
(43:50):
I don't understand it's a golf glove. Now that I
see he has the glove.
Speaker 2 (43:53):
On the wrong hand. My man Got eight.
Speaker 4 (43:54):
Kids kind of looks like John Goodman in this in
this role, yeah, yeah, he was the guy in the chair.
Speaker 1 (44:02):
He was the one sort of operating the drone and
he pushed the button to fire the missiles whenever they
needed it. There are a lot of things in this
movie that they like touched on but never paid off,
the biggest one being Russell Crow's.
Speaker 2 (44:19):
Wife is pregnant. Right, He's like this ninth kid, his
ninth kid.
Speaker 1 (44:24):
She's like about to go into labor like any moment now, right,
Like there's this tension of like here I am, I'm
trying to get these soldiers out of harm's way, but
also I need all these other guys to listen for
the phone ringing because my wife might go into labor.
I'm gonna have to go and like nothing ever really happens.
Speaker 2 (44:42):
She never had do you ever have?
Speaker 4 (44:44):
The whole point of that was just so they don't
pick up the phone during the game. That that was it.
Speaker 6 (44:49):
Like yeah, Like I was just like like this is
you know, it's like the theory of in storytelling what
they say, you know, checkof's gun, right, Like the whole
theory being if you introduce a gun in a story,
like at some point it has to go off, right,
you build that tension eventure, the gun goes off.
Speaker 1 (45:05):
Like That's sort of what I felt like with the pregnancy, right,
Like they made a big deal about like it's gonna
happen any moment. Now, she's gonna call, be sure to
answer the phone, and like the closest we got was
like him at the store buying vegan cheese, Like that
was it.
Speaker 3 (45:18):
They hated vegans getting tortuned. Yeah, vegans.
Speaker 1 (45:22):
Whoever wrote this movie must have like dated a vegan
and the relationship went bad or something like this movie
crapped all over vegans.
Speaker 4 (45:30):
Every other line was like worse, she's vegan.
Speaker 2 (45:33):
Like like.
Speaker 1 (45:36):
Just just ripping on vegans, like for no real reason.
Speaker 4 (45:40):
Numerous times I was like did I miss something because
like all of a sudden, we jumped to a completely
new scene and like I rewound and I was, oh no,
this just happened.
Speaker 5 (45:51):
Him shopping getting tortured like that's literally.
Speaker 4 (45:57):
They also pull a Fast and the Furious because in
The Fast and the Furious at one point they drop
like a nuke and Dom stands between two like chargers
and nothing touches him. Liam's hen was Worth just goes
down into a batsub as the entire caves explode, and
then he just pops right out.
Speaker 1 (46:15):
He's in a cold plunge and everything is okay. Uh,
Debro jumped in, Man, what's up, de bro?
Speaker 2 (46:20):
How you doing, fellow?
Speaker 4 (46:21):
What's up?
Speaker 2 (46:22):
What's up? Good to see you here? What up? Bro?
Speaker 4 (46:25):
What are your thoughts on Land of Bad?
Speaker 1 (46:27):
Yeah, we're talking about bad action movie from Netflix because
this is the portion of the stream where we just
talk about movies. Hopelly, we see you in Canton for
the expo for it to catch it up with you
there if you were going to be there this year.
Uh yeah, I did laugh at that that Liam Hemsworth
goes down into a cold plunge and escapes a major
explosion and your bombs dropping on caves sort of thing as.
Speaker 4 (46:50):
His hands, his hand stayed out of the tub and
his hands were fine.
Speaker 2 (46:55):
His hands were fine.
Speaker 4 (46:57):
I was like, what is this.
Speaker 3 (46:58):
That's his tooth that came out after you got hit
in the face with the hammer.
Speaker 2 (47:02):
You got hitting the face with the hammer and his
tooth popped out.
Speaker 3 (47:04):
I couldn't even tell what that was. It didn't look
like a tooth.
Speaker 2 (47:06):
Yeah, it's a tooth. It was What the heck was that?
Speaker 1 (47:10):
But for all the things that were sort of sketchy
and kind of ridiculous, none was more ridiculous than the
final sequence where Liam Hemsworth Sergeant Kenney is trying to
call for help right like, we're escaping, but we need
you to call off the air strike. It's coming, and
they put on the clock minute forty nine seconds. Russell
(47:33):
Crowe is in line at the grocery store.
Speaker 2 (47:38):
And somehow in a minute and forty eight.
Speaker 1 (47:40):
Seconds, because he gets there with one second to spare,
he goes from being in the grocery store to jumping
in his car to driving to sin and.
Speaker 4 (47:49):
There's there's delays, like he's sitting in the car waiting
for the fence to open.
Speaker 1 (47:53):
So like like wait, you're telling it he did this
in like just over ninety seconds.
Speaker 2 (48:00):
Yeah, that's what we're talking about.
Speaker 1 (48:01):
Yes, Russell crow grabbing vegan products in the store one
second and then saving a life in it. Like literally
he's asking about like cash you plant based vegan something
something cheese and in a minute forty gets to sentcom
busts in the room, gets on the mic and says
a port which the fact that the pilot somehow was
(48:26):
able to just not hit the button like in that.
Speaker 2 (48:29):
Instant flit second second and just keep flying. That's why
I was like, all right, man, like yeah, I would also.
Speaker 4 (48:38):
Love that only only the commander is a is a
Tennessee fan, but everyone in that room is invested as
if they are on the team. Like they're like, yeah,
we can't talk right now, Tennessee's on, and like I'm like,
you have a huge mission going on, Like it's crazy.
Speaker 2 (48:55):
Huge, crazy.
Speaker 1 (48:57):
I did love, by the way, to Australian acts pretending
that they were from Ohio. Yeah, Russell Crowe and Liam's
Himsworth talking all about being from Ohio and talking about
the Ohio State Buckeyes and this and that.
Speaker 2 (49:11):
I'm like.
Speaker 4 (49:14):
When Reaper's like, oh Ohio State just lost and he's like,
you're trying to make me more sad.
Speaker 1 (49:19):
And like, yeah, man, no, you guys should be talking
about like footy, right and like veg, I'm being supers.
Speaker 4 (49:28):
The one thing that was kind they used actual NCAA
tournament footage for that. Yeah, like that was kind of
interesting to me.
Speaker 2 (49:36):
That was kind of cool. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (49:39):
Yeah, Usually it's like a generic jersey like barely able
to make a layup.
Speaker 1 (49:43):
Or it's like or sometimes they'll use real footage, but
like they'll you know, it'll be blurred or like the
TV so far away you can't really tell what it
is sort of thing.
Speaker 4 (49:53):
So they had a zoom up of them like at
one point it was only like if you walked in,
you'd be like, oh, you're watching college basketball bactly.
Speaker 1 (50:01):
So yeah, I think we're all agreed, like this is
this is the only time we're gonna ever see this movie.
Speaker 4 (50:06):
It's not Extraction, man, Like I would rewatch Extraction. They
couldn't afford that, you know. What happened was like this
was like the a bunch of stuff they got left
on the the writer's room floor for Extraction. They were
like it, why don't we just run it back? With
your little brother.
Speaker 1 (50:19):
Yeah, yeah, so yeah, I don't know if we have
we never we never picked another movie.
Speaker 2 (50:26):
Yet, have we?
Speaker 4 (50:28):
I will be here next Thursday?
Speaker 1 (50:29):
So all right, extra is it out? Is Extraction three
out yet? And also John Berthall is actually in it?
Because if John Birthall is in it, then I'm sure there.
Then I'm for sure there.
Speaker 3 (50:42):
In out album two? As like the Bad Guy?
Speaker 4 (50:45):
Is he the bad I'm excited for three.
Speaker 2 (50:47):
He's super sketchy, he really sketchy.
Speaker 1 (50:51):
If I can make a suggestion here, uh the Old Guard,
I know the Old Guard too just came out, but
the first Old Guard, which I believe is uh sure
least their own debro being shocked that there's a third extraction, Yeah,
not yet.
Speaker 2 (51:11):
Has it been released yet?
Speaker 1 (51:12):
We just keep hearing that it's uh, you know, it's
due sometime in twenty twenty five, which they're running out
of year, right, I mean we're mid through July.
Speaker 4 (51:22):
Do you think the Hemsworth brothers get together and discuss
like then they had me like fly through six buildings
and shoot someone mid air, like right?
Speaker 1 (51:33):
So I was saying this though, like Tyler Rake clears
Sergeant Kinney by Miles Miles miles.
Speaker 4 (51:41):
There's no time. Rake would have had everyone out of there,
alive and well in ten.
Speaker 2 (51:44):
Minutes and been home for lunch.
Speaker 4 (51:46):
Yeah, this dog wouldn't miss a meal, never does.
Speaker 1 (51:50):
You could have seen he could have seen the second
half of the Tennessee game, for sure. He could have
brought the second half of Tennessee. That's all I know.
Speaker 2 (51:58):
Why are we sending it in.
Speaker 4 (51:59):
A whole team so we could send in one dude.
Speaker 1 (52:01):
To send in Tyler Rake? And there it is, you
can never die. It is my soldier movie. Ye Debro say,
my soldier movie was better than your soldier movie. I
got shot and lived Havoc.
Speaker 4 (52:12):
We watched Havoc.
Speaker 2 (52:13):
He did watch Havoc. Havoc was so much gun.
Speaker 4 (52:16):
So I think I liked Havoc more than Land of Bad.
Speaker 1 (52:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (52:20):
Oh, is it making the rankings though, Havoc's definitely above that.
Speaker 4 (52:24):
Yeah? Yeah, I would put the two extractions, then Havoc,
then Land of Bad.
Speaker 2 (52:27):
Yeah, I think that's fair.
Speaker 4 (52:29):
I don't know if we've watched any other movie the
other part.
Speaker 1 (52:34):
I think before we get out of here, apparently there's
something about the Hymnsworth boys jumping off of waterfalls, right
because Chris did that in Extraction Remen. He sat underneath
the water and just like was like meditating under the
water and then we amble to jump off a waterfall.
You know how hard that is? Did you have rocks
in it?
Speaker 4 (52:52):
So? You know?
Speaker 2 (52:52):
I was on vacation.
Speaker 1 (52:53):
I was in San Diego and we had some pool
time at the hotel we were at, and like, I
did try to just like sit like you float, like
you float off the bottom of the.
Speaker 3 (53:03):
You really tried to do the extraction you say.
Speaker 2 (53:06):
It like, I was like, all right, I've got some
rocks and.
Speaker 4 (53:09):
Blow all the air out of your lungs and then
you won't float as much, but then you also have
no air in your lungs and start panicking.
Speaker 1 (53:16):
So like, yeah, I really did try that. I'm like,
I'm like Chris Himsworth is full of crap.
Speaker 2 (53:23):
So yeah, so there you go.
Speaker 4 (53:26):
G I also love though one. In this movie. They
were the worst shooters in the world. But then he
jumps in the waterfall and they just give up. They're like,
oh well he must be gone forever now, no way
he could reverse reverse havoc.
Speaker 3 (53:40):
We saved the bullets in this movie.
Speaker 1 (53:41):
Yeah, they start throwing him at him like, yeah, well,
Land of Bad, thanks for your but we're not we're
not coming back to that one. Uh.
Speaker 2 (53:52):
We will be back on Tuesday though for another podcast.
Speaker 5 (53:55):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (53:56):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (53:56):
We're talking about something. I'm gonna pull back the curtain.
We don't really plan super far in advance, Like, well.
Speaker 4 (54:04):
We'll talk about I will be here. That's all you
guys need to know next week.
Speaker 1 (54:07):
Usually what happens is that on Monday, you know, we
send out a text like, hey, what do you guys
want to talk about? And then that's how the rundown
gets formed. So we'll be back on Tuesday with another show.
We appreciate all y'all hanging out in the chat. We
appreciate all of you guys participating. Always a fun time.
And that'll do it for this edition of the Fantasy
Cheat Sheets. They happy, safe and healthy, do good and
live well for THEA Kwan for Florio for a producer
(54:29):
Gavin Enjoy the weekend, everybody. We'll talk to you next
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