August 13, 2025 • 48 mins
Marcas Grant, Michael F. Florio, and LaQuan Jones kick things off with the latest fantasy news, including James Cook’s new four-year deal with the Bills, injuries in Green Bay affecting Josh Jacobs’ draft stock, and Brandon Aiyuk eyeing a Week 6 return. (1:53)
After the break, the guys play Hype Train or Smokescreen, debating if DJ Moore could see snaps at running back, whether Travis Kelce’s off-field distractions are impacting his game, and John Metchie’s role in the Texans WR corps. (19:45)
They close the show breaking down surprising results from Florio’s King’s Classic auction draft and share key takeaways for your fantasy drafts. (34:45)
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Wow, Hey everybody, It's Wednesday, August thirteenth, twenty twenty five.
Welcome to the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast, where we do
everything perfectly legal. It's me and your randomg Marcus graduated
by Michael Flooryo and LaQuan Jones Florya. We were discussing
(00:23):
before you got here, before the show, what is more illegal? Oh, no, download,
downloading music or faking an address to go to a
different school.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
I don't think either one of those things should be illegal,
but I guess it would be downloading music because you're
kind of taking money from people like I played the
fifth though I've never done either one of those things
in my life.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
I've paid. I've paid for every single piece of music
I own.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
I never downloaded Limeyer never.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
There was a period where people started cracking down on that,
and I was like, do I need to be worried?
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Like they were gonna come after like.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Seventh grade me.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
You know, Well, here's the thing. I remember stories of like,
you know, the FBI took it in college dorm rooms
and like dragging you know, sophomores away or something like that.
I was like, hmm, should always be.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
The uploaders getting in trouble.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Yeah, we're just trying to enjoy I'm just trying to
do trying to download the chronic and hope it's actually
the chronic by the time I download the whole two
weeks later, right exactly. Anyway, that's not what the show
is about. We're gonna talk some fantasy football. Of course,
we have a little bit of hype train or smoke screen.
On a Monday show. We actually talked about the King's
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Classic Snake Draft that I participated in. We also will
talk about the Auction Draft that Florio participated in, some
of the picks he made, and some of the values
that we saw across the board in that one. But
first is always want to get started with some news,
and Michael lef Floyo, it appears that your short regional
nightmare is over. James Cook and the Buffalo Bills have
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agreed to terms on a four year, forty eight million
dollar contract. I think we all sort of knew that
it was going to end depth that the two sides
would come to an agreement at some point. It was
just a matter of how long it was going to take.
And thankfully it didn't really take all that long. Right now,
James Cook kind of a third round pick. Lakwan and
I were saying earlier, it feels kind of like everybody
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kind of felt like this was gonna have a happy ending,
and so that's where the ADP is. But now that
he's officially signed, would you be willing to bump him
up your draft board at all?
Speaker 2 (02:31):
So I have him ranked right abound around where he
is going. I could see like pushing him ahead of
like maybe Breese Hall, who is all reports are that
he's splitting a lot of work and we did see
that in the preseason. But it's hard for me to
push him up too much higher than that because I
I think I haven't ranked him like, oh no, he's
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not gonna be there. I ranked him as like this
is all systems go, because from the start it just
made too much sense. There wasn't a situation where the
Bills are better without James Cook. There wasn't a situation
out there better for James Cook than staying with the Bills.
So I have kind of ranked him as if this
was going to happen. And yeah, I know last year
he finished higher than where he ranked, but right around
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RB twelve thirteen. That feels about right for me.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
So one of the things I think about James Cook,
part of the reason he's in the third round, Lakwan,
is that he has never really been a three down back.
It sounds like the Bills are trying to sell us
on this idea that he's going to be a three
down back. Are you buying any of that?
Speaker 3 (03:37):
Hey, let's keep it a bean. I might be buying that.
I mean, I do think that they're looking at him
as hey, we paid you the bag, we're gonna treat
you as such. But I think they're honestly looking at
what Joe Brady has been able to do with James Cook.
And since he's taken over James Cook, we have seen
the best version of him. We've seen him get plenty
of opportunities in the goal line area and be able
to succeed in the red zone, to be able to
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have those sixteen touchdowns. I do think that, you know,
I'm buying a little bit of it, because again, they've
rewarded him in the bag. He feels as though he
could be a three down back and if you got
the GM keeping the bean, he's going to be able
to go out there and put up RB one numbers
for me.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
You see, because the GM is named Brandon Bean.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
Yeah you see bean Ah, you like that. I don't
with a little East Coast flavor for you.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
We're just weaving things together here on this show. That's
what we do. Yeah. Look, I I haven't drafted a
ton of James Cook. I've drafted a little bit just
because the Bills have told us that they don't like
him as a three down back. The Bills have told
us they kind of want to work guys in. So
I think there's value there on a team that's going
to score a lot of points, that's gonna win a
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lot of games, and he's going to be a big
part of that. But I just haven't found myself particularly.
I say, I'm not reaching for him if if he
falls to me, you know, in the natural course of
the draft, and I'm willing to kind of take the
shot at it, but I'm not like going out trying
to target him.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
There was a point this summer where he was going
in the fourth round pretty concent insistantly, and I was like,
all right, I'm gonna keep taking him there. Like, but yeah,
I think we saw in the playoffs that James Cook
can be a workhorse, but when you have Todd Johnson
and Ray Davis there, you don't need to make him that.
And Bean said that today, he was like, we think
he is a three down back, but we don't have
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to use him as that, and we could keep him fresh.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Yeah. I always just think it's important to sort of
listen to what the team is telling us, you know,
not just with their words, but also with their actions
and how they use a guy and everything about James
Cook's career with the Bill says they just don't want
to use him in that role, and I think we
should adjust accordingly. In Green Bay, a little bit of
issues here. Jordan Love expected to undergo a procedure on
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his left thumb that is not his throwing hand, but
he is not expected to miss Week one. In fact,
there's a talk that he may be back next week
for preseason games or preseason workouts, So that seems very
very minimal. A little bit more of a concern. Christian
Watson dealing with a need issue, likely to begin the
season and on the pupp list, which means the Packers
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are right now down to seventeen healthy wide receivers on
their roster, only seventeen it's in only seventeen He's trying
to figure out which one is going to catch the
ball in any given week. So with the quarterback kind
of banged up, one of the wide receivers are down.
It's a wide receiver room that I think we're all
generally avoiding just because there are so many guys and
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they spread the ball around. Lukwan, you are higher on
Josh Jacobs than most people I think across that industry.
So does this mean Josh Jacobs officially rockets to the
moon in like the first four weeks or so of
the season.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
I think it's already wheels up for him. But absolutely
when you got all the wide receivers banged up right now,
I mean you've seen the video of Jayden Reed doing
push ups in a walking boot. I mean, like, this
guy's committed to prove that he is the big dog
of the room. But at the end of the day,
all these guys stay banged up. But looking at Josh
Jacobs last year, I get that he's not the sexy
pick right now, and he's going outside the top ten.
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This guy had sixteen hundred yards, he had sixteen touchdowns,
and we're looking at a guy that showed he could
be an explosive back. Still there is no signs of
declining in his yards per carry and any of the
situation that you look at in the backfield. There is
really nobody back there able to take these touches away
from him. And look, only five running backs last season
were responsible for forty percent of their team touches. Josh
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Jacobs is one of them. This is a group among
Saquon Barkley, Jean Robinson, Jonathan Taylor, and kyn Williams. So
again him going outside the top ten running backs right now,
I'm a little confused. Was that last name you said,
Kyron Williams. Yes, Willis was part of that forty percent,
ladies and gentlemen, But I do not think that's going
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to be true this season though.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
I just love getting him to talk about his own player.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
I'll take Kyron over Josh personally.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
What that's crazy.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
That's crazy talk, man.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
So you said you had a theory, by the way, Florio,
of why it is that people just aren't in on Josh. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
So me and a buddy of ours of mine that
I share a team with, we're getting ready for a
draft and we have the number one pick. So we're like,
all right, we're taking Jim ar Chase and we were
talking about grabbing a running back on the two three
turn and who could realistically be there, and Josh Jacobs was.
It was like Chase Brown, Kyrien Williams, Jonathan Taylor, Josh Jacobs,
Bucky Irving, and we were like, Josh Jacobs probably goes
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the last of that bunch for us because he's not
sexy at all, and even last year fifteen rushing touchdowns
a career high, He's the RB eight in Fantasy points
per game. I think that is the difference to me,
Like Josh Jacob's floor might be one of it is
one of the safest at the running back position, but
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the ceiling is not all that much higher. Like I
think all of those running backs in that range bring
a bit of a higher ceiling. Like Jonathan Taylor, we've
seen finish as the RB one before. Bucky Irving was
really great last year as a rookie. We've seen Kyrien
Williams do it at a very high level. He was
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the RB two in points per game just a couple
of years ago. So I think that is the difference,
But I am willing to because I feel like I
have a personal bias towards Josh Jacobs and I'm always
like kind of lower on him than most. So I
was sicking last night. I was like, is this a
me problem?
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Like?
Speaker 2 (09:23):
And I came in and I said it before. I
was like, I am willing to change my tune on
Josh Jacobs, but I don't. I just keep going back
to that He's just not very exciting.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
So would it change your mind at all? If I
reminded you that Josh Jacobs was the RB one in
twenty twenty two with the Raiders when you had sixteen
hundred rushing yards and was.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
It, well, he's the RB three and per game then
all right.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
Yeah, that was one hundred yards and twelve rushing touch
Yeah to me.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
I always look back at that year as the outlier,
but last year he did it, so yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
And and the Packers are a top five rushing offense.
And I get that it might have been an outlier
that they ran the ball that much. But if it
ain't bro, why fix it? I mean, Josh Jacobs has
been one of the safest floor running backs like you
mentioned Florida, but guys like Bucky Irvin that are going
round before him again, Bucky Irvin's ceiling maybe Josh Jacobs's floor.
Let's be honest, Like, I do think that the Bucks
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want to get Bucky the ball more, But does Bucky
really handle that full workload healthy for seventeen games? And
obviously they like Sean Tucker. He's getting all the praise
and Owen right, Look, he looked good in the preseason.
Man that that could be competition there for Sean Tucker.
But I do think that they have guys in that
room that can handle the workload along with Bucky Irvin.
(10:40):
So I'm gonna go with the not sexy pick in
Josh Jacobs, the workhorse in a top five rushing offense.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
Yeah, everything you say is right, and somehow I do
still feel like Florida. I look at Josh Jacobs that
are kind of like, I mean, look at everything you
say is one hundred percent correct, right, Like I can't argue,
I can't refute any of it. But I see Josh
Jacobs on the board, I'm kind of like, Eh, what
else is out there? You know?
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Yeah, like the other like he could be better than Bucky,
but you're gonna have way more fun with Bucky. You
know like, yeah, like Josh Jacobs is your friend that
like you go you play video games. You know you're
gonna have a good time. But then there's other people
You're like, I can go out and and you know,
do like do crazy.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Things like that. You know, we might go to jail
but a night, yes, exactly that. Yeah, yeah, that's terrible.
That's terrible. It really is terrible. But you know, I mean,
you know, we know how how people operate for sure.
All right, uh, Brandon, I you the forty nine ers
are hoping that he will be ready to go by
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week six of the regular season. He's still dealing, uh
with the effects of a knee injury. I found an
interesting floial because I looked at fantasy pros adp and
Brandon I, Ricky Pierce, all Juwan Jennys. We're all ranked
back to back to back in terms of the wide
receiver position, one after the other. Which one would you
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prefer at this point? And they're all by You're by you,
They're all in the wide receiver like forty four, forty five,
forty six something around there.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
I think they're all good. I think you should get
there should be a gap between Ayuk and the other
two because he's gonna yeah six weeks, yeah, like the
other two are there to start, although I do have
a lot of Ayuk in my early drafts right now,
like the drafts have done already, h I just keep
taking him as a backup wide receiver and hoping that
he can propel me in the second half. I think
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Juwan Jennings should be the first one to go because
we've seen he has the rapport with Brock Purdy. I
think he is the combination of floor and they're still
upside there. The other two, to me are upside picks
like I like Ricky Piersoll a lot. And again, I
think all of these guys are value because Brock Perdy
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has shown us that he could be consistently good year
over year. Kyle Shanahan runs one of the highest EPA
offenses in the league. Like, I want pieces of the
forty nine ers, and if you're gonna let me get
them at wide receiver fore costs, I'll do it all day.
But I do think it should be how it was
like earlier in the summer, where it was like Jennings
then a slight little gap, then pearsall then a slight
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gap and then I.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
Yuke, so I'm with you. I've drafted a lot of
iut but again as like a fourth receiver with the
hope being if he comes back healthy and productive, then
suddenly it's like, oh, I feel like I got two
or three wide receiver ones potentially on this roster if
that's how it turns out. And you know, if it
doesn't work out that way, well I didn't spend a
whole lot in the draft. You get the guy, so
it's not as big of a deal. I'm lakwan. Last year,
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Ricky Piersoll finished the season pretty strong. I averaged about
fourteen and a half PPR points per game I think
over the last month or so of the season. I
get it. It was a small sample size on a
team that was struggling, that had a ton of injuries
last year, and so he kind of got his chance,
his opportunity. I'm are you sort of buying into that?
Is there something there with Rickey Pearso or was it
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just him taking advantage of a situation.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
I've kind of changed my tune this whole off season
and like buying the dip on somebody's wide receivers for
the forty nine Ers, but they're constantly strapped to injury,
Like it's always something you know, Brandon and I you
coming back maybe two week six, Ricky piersol Dean with
a hamstring. Now you got a calf injury with Jawan Jennings.
Like I'm almost at a point now with my late
drafts coming up in August, like I kind of don't
want any of Like I only want George Kittle and
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like I feel like he is such a great value
where he's going in tight ends in terms that you're
not paying that premium price in the second round for
McBride or Brockers. So like there's really only three things
that I really want from this forty nine Ers offense.
And it's like I'm looking at George Kiddo's value and
the other two things are pain and suffering when the Rams,
you know, end up getting a ring this year in
their home. So that's the only thing I want involved
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with the forty nine Ers this season.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
Anyway, We're gonna talk about my auction draft from the
weekend later, But I got both Jennings and Ayuk for
combined sixteen dollars.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
Ricky Pearson would for twenty ooh.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
What Ricky coming from Ricky Pierano.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
But there's a lot of hype about Richard.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
I get it, he's a chess piece that Shanahan can
move all over the field, But like you know better
than anyone, who do you think is going to lead
them in targets?
Speaker 4 (15:14):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (15:14):
I think a healthy a healthy Juwan Jennings leads them
in targets. And like to your point, though, Lakwan right
now dealing with a calf injury. I do think it's
funny because you know, he made the request for a
new contract or whatever, and then he started missing time
and everybody's like, oh, is he holding out AND's like, no, no,
for really, like he's actually he really actually is hurt, right,
Like yeah, like no, this is not a contract thing.
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This is not him holding out, Like he really has
a calf injury, and so they're they're dealing with that.
I think when healthy, I think he does lead this
team in targets. I think the hype about Ricky Pearsall
is a combination of one what he did at the
end of last year, but two recognizing that part of
the reason he was drafted was because the organization realized
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at some point they were going to have to make
a decision between between Brandon and Deebo Samuel. Obviously it's
Samuel that's not there, but the idea being, well, this
opens up a spot for him to get on the
field more and now he's going to potentially work out
of the slot do maybe some of the I won't
say all the things, but some of the things that
Deebo Samuel could do. And I think that's where the
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excitement is coming from.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
But where where does Ricky Piersoll fit in this hype?
Speaker 1 (16:21):
Though? Like?
Speaker 3 (16:21):
Where does he fit in that target order? Like it's
Jawan Jennings, Brandon, I you, George Kittle CMC, and then
it's like Ricky Piersoll in the mix of that, Like
do we really want to strap ourselves to that? I
get that the talent's there, the smooth operator, the great
route runner, I mean, the one hand to catch that
he had, that goes on and on with his college highlights.
But I just feel like I'm a little stand offish
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where it's a dangerous game, like his ADP is going
where Roma doonsay is going? Where I rather have him?
I mean that's our discontent.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
I will say, I would say that is kind of spicy, right,
if he's going in the same route, say yeah, areas
as Romodonsay, I think that's definitely spicy. But I also
think this idea of him maybe having a six week
runway with IUK not there to sort of get up
and running again, and then it becomes an issue of Okay,
well now you got guys who are gonna get targeted.
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The other part of this is, and I I love
George Kittle. I've drafted George Kittle. There are going to
be weeks when the Niners want to run the ball
a lot, and then George Kittle becomes a de facto
sixth lineman for that team, right because because we have
those weeks, yeah, where he gets three targets, because they're
just gonna give the bottomccaffrey or whomever thirty times and
they're gonna ask coeg George Kittle just be a block.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
I like, to whoever, I could.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
You just know right?
Speaker 1 (17:35):
You know, you know, I.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Will say Taylor George Kittle, Like I have concerns about
George Kittle, Like, it's nothing to do with Kittle himself.
It's the fact that last year everyone was hurt and
it kind of propelled him to have a season that
he's only had one time before, like six years ago.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
Yeah, I think think.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
Everybody's hurt now.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
I CMC being out is what really propelled Kittle because
all those catch and run quick targets that usually go
to him, where Kittle's the lead blocker on those, Yeah,
they were now going to Kittle.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
Yeah. I mean I think George Kettle has always been
the week to week consistency as.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
Ever, I don't like that either, Yeah, I mean that's.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
Always just been the case, right, It's just that he'll
have those weeks where he'll score three touchdowns, and then
he'll have the weeks where he has three targets. Right.
It's it's just sort of hard to figure. It's one
of those things where you look at the overall number,
you're like, oh, yeah, he was the tight end three. Yeah,
but you may have forgotten or maybe you didn't have
him so you didn't experience the week to week Yeah,
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anxiety over He'll like.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
Three games where he puts up twenty five and then
like four where he puts up like seven, right, And it's.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
Like, I do think if you're drafting Kittle, you're most
likely going to take a tight end two in your draft,
and that's just an insurance policy there, because again, Kittle
has his banged up weeks. You know that he's playing
through or the times where he's not available because of injuries.
So I think the value where he he's at right
now is perfectly priced because again I don't want to
pay the premium for a Brockers or McBride. So I
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definitely think you're kind of strapped to getting a tight
end two in that area late like mid to late
round to have that inshorance policy for those certain weeks.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
I'm a I just came up with a with an
idea for us to do on a segment, put together
the al Doci team, the guys that give you anxiety.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
I like it. Yeah, I want to do that.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
Do want to show at least that sometime in the future. Okay,
We're do a little bit of high train or smoke
screen to take a quick break, come back, and to
talk about whether or not we believe some of these
headlines that are floating around on the interwebs right now.
That's coming up next on the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast.
All right, time for a little bit of preseason hype
train or Smoke scream who scoured the interwebs for minutes
(19:52):
at a time to come up with some headlines that
you know may or may not actually come to fruition here.
So the first one, DJ Moore says he is open
to the what he's calling daunting task of lining up
at running back, saying that Ben Jonson's trying to do
different things move him around, and that he's lining up
occasionally at running back. Now. I will also freely admit
(20:14):
that a lot of what he's doing at running back
is just running routes. They're not asking him to take handoffs.
Maybe they will occasionally. Florio is just really gonna be
a thing, Hype Trader smoke screen on DJ Moore being
like a useful, not useful, but consistently used piece at
running back.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
That's a smoke screen. I think we could see it occasionally.
I don't think it'll be a consistent thing. But what
I think we could see from DJ Moore is him
utilized all over the field, Like I think we could
see him play the X, the Y in the slot,
like he he is that good where he could win
from anywhere. And you have Roma Doonsday, who's more a
traditional expert receiver out wide Luthor Burden more traditional out
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of the slot, but like he is that chess piece
and the Bears are one of the teams that I'm
most going after this year. Like I have DJ Moore ranked,
I believe I have him as my wide receiver thirteen
or fourteen. Yet ADP he's going like twenty three to
twenty four. I'm a little bit higher on a Donsay
than consensus DeAndre Swift, So like, yeah, maybe if it
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feels dirty a little bit, because the Bears have never
been a good passing attack ever in the history of life.
But like I think Ben Johnson changes things.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
A lot this year. I think he changes things a
lot too. I Mean I've gone on record saying that
this is the year they finally get a four thousand
yard passer, that Caleb Williams is going to finally break
that curse. I have been very big on Romo Doonsay.
I haven't drafted a lot of Dj Moore and hasn't
necessarily been a purposeful avoidance thing. I just haven't necessarily
drafted him, but I have been in a spot to
get a Dunsay a lot. I'm very excited about him.
(21:46):
I'm I mean, Lakwa when we hear stuff like this,
like it feels like wide receiver moving to running back
is the new version of the running back who's going
to line up out on the slot. Right, That's exactly
what I was thinking that that is the Batman smoke
screen right there, right in your face.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
And like, I think we'll probably see it like once
or twice this season where he catches a pat I
mean he runs a route of the backfield and kind
of catches it very running back like or him getting
a handoff. Like, I don't think it will be at
a high rate enough for us to be like super
excited about this news, but I am going to mirror
what you know Florio said. It is just basically like
(22:24):
he's gonna be used everywhere the versatility he brings, and
he's one of the best after to catch as well.
So it's like I'm looking at DJ Moore as my
wide receiver twelve of my rankings that I am very
high on him to be one of those guys that
we have in the conversations of the DK Metcalfs and
the the Nico Collins and Drake London's and like, I
do feel like you know he gets looked at as
(22:47):
a wide receiver too, but I think this is a
wide receiver one season for him.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
I mean, I think that could definitely be the case too,
right if the offense goes the way we expect it
to go. I think the other part of this is
the like one hundred and twenty some on targets or
whatever it was that that Keenan Allen vacated. They're not
gonna all go to one person, but you gotta believe
DJ Moore is gonna get a few extra. Romo Dunese
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may get a few extra, like Luther Burden will certainly
get his. But I would like to think that the
top two receivers who have already been there are gonna
be the ones to display.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
And people forget that Caleb distributed the ball like evenly
amongst the three wide receivers, all three of them had
one hundred plus targets. So I definitely think it's possible,
you know, we can get a little bit more versatility
at DJ Moore to be manufactured touches. So I'm all
on board at that. Like, I don't know what people
are doing, man, they're sleeping on DJ Moore this season.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
To Laquan's point. I know it's gonna be different with
Ben Johnson, but last year, not only did they distribute
the ball well, like it was kind of clear like
in the red zone, Okay, Roma Duneesday, that is where
you're going to shine more of a downfield guns or
like yeah, guy, that's where DJ Moore was gonna come in.
So like I trust Ben Johnson to because they're very
different skill sets, I trust Ben Johnson to put each
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player in the bed. Like He's not going to force
a player to do something that he wants them to do.
He's gonna scheme up what's the best case scenario for
that player.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
Every year there's a coach that you your reports, Hey
this this coach is working to his player's strengths. And
I'm like, yeah, man, that's what a good should work, right,
I mean, and I guess what was happening before. Well,
here's the It wasn't happening like that before. I mean,
it was just sort of like, Okay, you're coming into
our system, you're coming into our office. We want you
to fit what we do. And you know, I mean
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sometimes it would work because if you scouted well and
you recruit, you know, and you you drafted well, you
could get guys to fit your system, But more often
than that, why not build around what your guys do well?
Like we treated as revolutionary when it's just like, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
If you're like Sean Payton, you you ever earned the
right to be like I want you guys who fit
my system. But if you're a first time head coach,
get out of here.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
If you're in a fan packet, yeah you know, yeah,
maybe work around your guys a little bit more.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
He's man four years now.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
Side note to that everybody said this at the time
on this show. That like when all the other coaches
were upset about Sean Payton throwing Thethaniel Hacket under the bus,
nobody said he was wrong. Yes, everybody like everyone was
just like, hey, man, like, don't maybe don't say it
out loud.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
That's not we don't say that to the medium. But
no one was like, man, he's a he's a really.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
Good Nobody actually stood up for him, and nobody actually fit.
They're just like, hey, man, like this, just don't say
that out loud, you know, something like that. Travis Kelce
admits that acting and being an entertainer impacted his NFL performance.
We could sort of watch Travis Kelcey last year and
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realize that he wasn't the same player he had been
a few years.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
When did he say this?
Speaker 1 (25:53):
He said this a couple of days ago on his pod.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
And then released a whole photo shoot looking like Razor Ramote.
Maybe be consistent with your messaging. I'm just saying, you know,
I will give.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
Him a little bit of a pass figuring that the
photo shoot happened like a while ago, probably, but I
just got but yeah, the time, the timing is not great. Yeah,
timing's not great.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
Also, you're still married to or or engage or the
engage dating something to. There's no world where he could
just shut that part of his life out, you know.
And I'm not saying he should, but like.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
I mean, so, I'm gonna ask you, look on I
mean high trainer smoke screen that this was because here's
even as down of a year as it was for him,
he was still the tight end five. Yeah, so I
hype trainer smokes, did this? Did you know? Look, he
was on the Era's tour, he's got the podcast with
his brother, He's dating a billionaire pop star maybe the
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most fam.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
NFL built the schedule around her schedule.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
I mean, like literally maybe the most famous woman in
the world right now, right So are you are you,
you know, throwing the BS flag on this or is
there something to it?
Speaker 3 (27:07):
Not hype trained?
Speaker 1 (27:07):
Man?
Speaker 3 (27:07):
I think this is the Michael Jackson. This is it
tour for him, So I think he wants to go
off on a good note. And again where he's going
in drafts, You're not paying that premium price you used
to in the past, so I'm not exactly fading him.
Like if he falls to me in that seventh eighth
round where he's been going, come on a board, man,
if you're gonna take accountability and recognize your distractions of
all field now you want to lock in and lead
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the NFL and retire on a good note. I'm buying
in because I'm not paying that premium price we used
to in the past. Like we remember that Travis kelcey
was going in the back and in the first round
at one point. I mean, that's a little expensive for
a tight end. I'm here complaining about McBride and Bowers
going in the second round right now, So I'm buying it.
Like Travis Kelcey, Man, do what you want man the
distraction to all field. I don't care. You're cheap right
(27:50):
now in drafts, and I'm not going to complain.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
All right, how are you feeling about that?
Speaker 2 (27:53):
The exact opposite. I've literally I've done a ton of drafts.
I've never won straft to Travis Kelce because I say
it a lot, the age cliff, it happens quick at
the NFL level. He's gonna be thirty six years old
this year, coming off of not one but two years
of declining in a row. And I think what propelled
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him to that tight end finish last year with circumstances
everyone around him was hurt. There was no Marquis Brown,
there was no Rashi Rice, there was no Isaiah Pacheco.
Xavier Worthy was a rookie. It led to him having
one hundred and thirty three targets. I if those other
guys are healthy around him, I don't think he gets plus.
Even with that, it wasn't like a consistent week to
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week thing. He had maybe three or four good, really
good fantasy weeks. Every other week was more of a
floor week. And I think the Chiefs, like they always do,
they care about the playoffs. They want Travis kelce to
be healthy and be fresh for the playoffs. I think
that was their plan last year. Remember he came off
to such a slow start when those other guys were healthy,
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and then once it all kind of broke down, everything
changed on the fly. But I don't want to have
invested in someone who I know needs this many volume
to get eight hundred yards.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
I maybe in his mind the acting and the you know,
world tours or whatever impact is his NFL performance. I
think what impacted his NFL performance more is just father time.
I mean just age. He just looked a step or
two slower than what we were used to see Travis
Kelcey at his peak. I don't know if you've ever
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paid attention to like when he catches a pass in
the middle of the field and turns around. Yes, he
turns around like there's a Scooby Doo villain behind him, right,
Like he's just like you expected. Like when he turns around, like,
that's what I hear in my head. That was in
the best of times with Travis Kelcey. Now, as you mentioned,
he's thirty six years old, he's played a ton of games,
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He's taken some wear and tear, because I think it
can't be discounted that during this run for the Chiefs,
you know, going to AFC championship games, going to Super Bowls,
winning Super Bowls, the Chiefs have probably played almost a
full season more of games and just about everybody else.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
I mean they're playing three four playoff games a year.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
A year, right, so they have literally played almost a
full season of games more than just about everybody else
in the league. I don't care who you are, that
catches up with you at some point, and so yeah,
I mean, maybe he wasn't fully focused on on football.
I get that when your girlfriend is a billionaire and
flying you all around the world and you're eating at
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the best restaurants and you're staying at the nights of hotel.
I was like, yeah, I get it, you know, like
I ain't mad at it. Man, we all wish we
could live that life to some extent. But I think
the thing that has impacted him more than anything is
just he's just getting older and he's just slowing down,
and it happens to everybody.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
And I don't want to sound like I'm taking shots,
but like he's still podcasting, he's still gonna be to
tour with Taylor Switt. She has a new album coming.
I'm sure that's not gonna take any time.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
I saw a post on Blue Sky was her with
a headset on, and they're like Taylor Swifts of the
podcast and a whole lot of folks that I don't
do podcasts like big deal, So am I I think.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
Her listeners my might beat hours.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
By me a little bit. Sure, sure, Like.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
All please don't come.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
From like you know, if somebody, if somebody talks trash
about us on the internet, We're not gonna have a
whole bunch of people like flooding and you know, mentioned bombing.
Those people. You know they're like, well yeah, Twitter, now exactly.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
My wife has been flaying a couple of battles for me.
So I think I got one of the one of
the troops ready to go.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
You got internet shooters, all right? Cool? Demiko Ryan says,
John Meshi showed up along a tight competition at Wide Receiver. Look.
John Meshi's story has been, you know, kind of a frustrating,
interesting one. You know, obviously had the missy years because
of health issues, has kind of really battled back, but
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it's never really had an opportunity to be a part
of the offense here Floria. I know we have our
own questions about the Houston Texans wide receivers. Do you
have any real belief that John Metchi can be a
Fantasy relevant guy this year?
Speaker 2 (32:12):
I think he could be relevant for the Texans and
a great story and a fan favorite and all of that.
I don't think for Fantasy, at least initially, because Nico
Collins is your unquestioned one. I think Christian Kirk is
your two, and that's gonna be your two wide receiver sets.
And then in three wide receiver sets, there's Jaden Higgins,
there's Jalen Noel. It's just very crowded. And I said
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this on Fantasy Live Today, Like even for like Higgins
and Noel, I think it takes an injury for those
guys to become weekly starters. Like they'll have some weeks
where they pop. Higgins will catch a touchdown or two
something like that. You could plug him in a pinch,
But I think to get enough consistent volume where you're like,
this guy's an every week starter for me, one of
those top two guys need to go down.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
Yeah, I just I don't. I don't know, LaQuan, it
just doesn't feel like there's enough vague, there's not enough snaps,
I think in this offense.
Speaker 3 (33:02):
For John that's the big thing. Yeah, you know, yeah,
I do think right now he's putting great things on film,
like he's putting great things on tape to be auditioning
for another team because the room is very crowded, Like
it's hard to see him being anywhere near Fantasy relevant
with this crowded room, the talent that they have, and
then even the cycle of when you know, he was
dealing with his difficult times in his rookie year and
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then coming back these these the Texans have drafted you know,
wide receiver since then, so it's like it's always been
a constant crowded rooms. So I think he may be auditioning,
you know, for another home and again he might land
somewhere where he might have an opportunity to show up
and show out because he's a very very good player
and like the stuff that he's doing in preseason right now,
it's really impressive, creating separation, making the big time catches
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like this is everything that we liked him coming out
of college. So it's like, I do think if he
finds another place, then we can revisit this conversation.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
Yeah, I think so, you know, and root for him
to find some success somewhere. Mentioned missed that rookie season
battling leukemia. Has been able to get back on the field,
but it just doesn't feel like there's room in Houston
for him despite whatever. Yeah, look, I know the Miko
Ryan's probably cheering for him, but they're just I think
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the reality is that the numbers game is.
Speaker 3 (34:17):
Just he's a player's coach. He's supposed to.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
Yeah, that's true. That's fair. That's absolutely fair. All Right,
we got an auction draft to talk about Michael if
Florio did an auction for the King's Classic this past
weekend in Can't Ohio, or we will dive into some
of his picks. I would tell you this spoiler alert.
It is the most Florio team ever. It is the
most Florio team ever. So we will dive into that
and look at some of the other players and kind
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of where they went and what they what values they
would for. That's coming up next on the NFL Fantasy
Football Podcast. So the King's Classic over the weekend happening
in Can't Ohio was part of the Fantasy Football Expo.
We talked on Monday about my team in the Snake Draft. Florio,
you wanted to get in the league. I was like, hey,
(35:03):
we do two drafts, maybe you could take one of mine.
You volunteered for the auction.
Speaker 2 (35:07):
I was excited.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
I was like you said, you were like, hey, can
I do the auction? I was like, say, less.
Speaker 3 (35:12):
Man, Yeah, how long was that draft?
Speaker 1 (35:16):
How long did it take you guys to draft that?
Speaker 2 (35:18):
We were done way faster than because there's two at
the same time. They started at the same time as us.
And I was done and I would and some people
have like seven roster spots left to fill, and I
was like, I was done. We kicked off at one.
I was done by three thirty.
Speaker 1 (35:33):
Okay, that's not bad at all.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
Yeah, I was preparing for to go to like six
o'clock at night with the way people were telling me.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
Yeah, I having done that draft and you know in
the past about three maybe three and a half hours
is kind of what it would take. So for you
to get done in two and a half, that's that's excellent.
I did come in the room early ish, earlyish, and
and well, at first I think I came in the
room and you just had one player. You had had Bajon,
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which you got for fifty one dollars. I left, I
kind of went wandered and talked to some people, came
back and it was very much you had Bajon, you
had Tyler Warren, you had aj Brown, you had Justin Field.
I'm like, yeah, this is this is totally your squad.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
So the funny thing was I didn't really plan on
going after Bajon, but Chase Jamar. Chase went for sixty
and then Bajon is sitting there at fifty and I
was like, you know what, I'll take a nine dollars
just and I was like, if he goes up further,
and then I got him. And I was just sitting
there for a while, and at one point Bob Long
was like, you know the you have to spend money, right,
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And then it was like I nominated A J. Brown
got him, and then Trayvion Fields and Warren all got
nominated like boom, boom boom, and then Bob was like,
maybe I shouldn't have up and everyone.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
So you look at the roster, your roster, Jon Robinson,
uh Tyler Warren, A J. Brown, let's look at your
quarterbacks first, justin fields, Jared Goff. Are your quarterbacks at
running back? John Robinson, Trevion Henderson, Jarquist Hunter, Isaiah Pacheco,
Jayden Blue, Elijah Mitchell. There's definitely some uh Lakwan influence.
(37:16):
I think uh in here as well. What was for
you Lakwan Hunter? I know, I know in the past,
l Q, you've been an Elijah Mitchell guy. I don't
know if you still are, but I know in the
past you have been.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
Checko Hancoff.
Speaker 1 (37:33):
Okay, that makes sense.
Speaker 3 (37:35):
Smart.
Speaker 1 (37:36):
Yeah. Wide receivers A J. Brown, Calvin Ridley, Juwan Jennings, Brandon.
I you Joshua Palmer, Dante Thornton, and Deontay Johnson. I
mean definitely the A. J. Brown and Ridley, the Deontay
Johnson Johnson. That's that's that's heavy. That's heavy. Florio.
Speaker 2 (37:54):
I do wish that Ridley was my three and not
my two. But in a fourteen team league, like I can,
getting just the players I thought I would get were
going for way more than I.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
Thought they would go for. Yeah, and then your one
tight end is Tyler Warren. And I'm trying to look
so I mean, I feel like, you got some some
pretty good values. The one thing that I noticed, and
you talked about this after the draft, the quarterback values
generally speaking were very depressed.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
Yeah, when I bought Justin Fields. When I won Justin Fields,
I should say he was so bow Knicks. Look, Mauricio
from NFL Mexico snuck in bo Nicks.
Speaker 1 (38:33):
Bonix for two dollars.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
He threw that out there, So bo Nicks two dollars
and no one, no one did so.
Speaker 1 (38:38):
He just he got away as a believer.
Speaker 2 (38:40):
But but then it went Josh. It was Lamar for
twenty six, Josh Allen for twenty four, and Jayden Daniels
for twenty and then I got Fields for seven, and
I'm like, okay, the back, Like that's gonna be a
good value. And then the only other quarterbacks that win
more for him were Jalen Hurts and Joe Burrow for
fourteen each, which I think is insane price.
Speaker 1 (39:01):
I mean, Patrick Mahomes goes for five, Baker Mayfield, I
see he's at three, Whell Stafford with for two.
Speaker 2 (39:11):
Kyler went for four. I was Caleb for four, Like
it was much less than I expected. I still love
Justin Fields, but I was like, I wish I got it.
And at one point it was like I was at
four dollars for him, and it was like once twice
so and then so it was like five and then six,
and I was like, come on, you couldn't have just
let me have him. I'm getting him either way. It's
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just a matter for how much.
Speaker 1 (39:34):
I mean. I like, I looked because you spent seven
dollars on Justin Fields and Nate Markham from Fantasy and
frames uh spent six on three quarterbacks combined. Yeah, I
was looking at Dak Prescott for four, Anthony Richardson and
Justin Herbert for a buck. Justin Herbert for a buck.
Speaker 2 (39:51):
Man Like, yeah, I don't.
Speaker 3 (39:53):
He did work.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
Nate did turn to me and was like, I wish
I went to eight on Fields, but yeah, no, he
got He got fantastic value there. And I liked getting
golf because I like pairing a safe quarterback with someone
like Fields, because Fields is all upside. Jared Goff, I
think is gonna be one of my more drafted quarterbacks
this year because you're getting him out a two. I
know a lot has changed in Detroit, but that still
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feels like his floor.
Speaker 1 (40:16):
Yeah, I'm looking at.
Speaker 3 (40:18):
Dollars of value as well. That's that same floor block
Party had a dollar.
Speaker 1 (40:23):
Yeah, block Party at a dollar is interesting. I'm also
looking I look at Ian Hartz's roster, where twenty two
for Travis Hunter, twenty eight for Tech McMillon sort of geez,
opens my eyes. You know, I like Travis Hunter, so
the twenty two I sort of get. I know, there's
a lot of excitement about him. Twenty eight for Tech
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mc millon that surprises.
Speaker 2 (40:45):
Twenty four for pickings, twenty five for something, and they
all happened like all the big name receivers were still
on the board when Ian was was getting these guys.
It was a joke in the room that like Ian
had his full roster filled out and he had like
four dollars left. Well, everyone else had like three players
on their team. He was the most aggressive one in
that room by far.
Speaker 1 (41:04):
Yeah. I did walk in there and just felt like
it felt like Ian was was building a team because
he had a plane to catch.
Speaker 2 (41:10):
If it was like a point per bid league, Ian
won because every player Ian was in on until he
had no more money.
Speaker 1 (41:15):
All right, rich reebar Uh fifty one for Ceede Lamb
and forty nine for Drake Linda. So he spent one
hundred dollars on his top two receivers one nine. If
you throw in the twenty nine dollars for t Higgins,
he would be yeah, wide receiver.
Speaker 2 (41:30):
Worthy for seventeen, like he I didn't plan on going
RB heavy, but I felt like the running back values
were at this point in the draft, the receivers were
going for a lot more than the running backs in
that ring.
Speaker 1 (41:44):
Did you have a particular strategy going into this one?
Speaker 2 (41:47):
Get my guys? Like I was like, I want fields,
I want Trevion, I want Warren, I want agent. So
I ideally I thought I was gonna end up with
like a fifty dollars receiver instead of Bajon. But when
I won Bajon, I had to pivot on the fly.
But I was like, I really wanted Neighbors and I
was willing to go up to like high forties for him.
But once I had I didn't want to have one
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hundred plus dollars spent on two players, you know, So
when I bought Bajon, I was waiting for aj Brown
because like I got him for thirty four dollars. Look
at like what the other wide receivers. One went for
Puko for thirty nine. I think was a good cost,
but like Lad McConkie went for forty four. All of
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the guys that I have ranked as wide receiver ones
everyone went.
Speaker 1 (42:33):
For like five or more dollars and Neighbors went for
forty eight.
Speaker 2 (42:37):
Yeah, I got Agent for fourteen dollars cheaper, you know, Like,
So that was my strategy, was to get aj in draft.
But then it was kind of trying to find value
and I think later in the rounds like Jennings for nine,
I Yuke for seven. I know not everyone loves Josh Palmer.
I'm starting to come around to him, but I was like,
let me get I don't want all dollar players. So
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I wanted to be able to get guys that I
think I could still plug in that are still cheap.
Speaker 1 (43:03):
Yeah. I trying to look at some of the other
interesting interesting bids.
Speaker 3 (43:08):
Interesting, I mean interesting, is Mike or Seki going for
fourteen dollars? Like what was going on there?
Speaker 2 (43:14):
That was definitely a like Wandel went for eleven. It
was a whatever money you had left on your final play.
Speaker 1 (43:21):
Exactly what it feels like. That feels like I got
fourteen dollars left I just.
Speaker 2 (43:24):
Need to get because that's why I bought Deontay for five.
I could have gone for a dollar, but it was
my term and nominated. I was like Deontay five, and
they were like sold, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (43:31):
No, one's no, one's gonna go six on Deontay Johnson
for sure. Yeah. I just like the quarterback values being
down kind of surprised me. The wide receiver values, I
think at some point being up, I think sort of
speaks to where we are at this moment in fantasy football,
where those guys are, you know, considered a lot more valuable.
Speaker 2 (43:51):
The thing I wanted was I didn't want a lot
of like a bench full of dollar players. I actually
don't have a single dollar player. I have a couple
of two dollars players, and those will be the guys
I might cut. But like I thought, it was more
valuable to have a bench with guys like Jaden Blue
and Josh Palmer and AU guys who could actually become
starters for me. I think because it's a fourteen team,
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sixteen roster league, the waivers, you're not going to be
able to find routine starters.
Speaker 1 (44:15):
On the waiver. No, that's the other part of it.
Fourteen teams sort of changes the equation too, because you're
not You're not still gonna love your team. Yeah, at
fourteen teams for anything. Okay, do you have a particular
auction strategy or you a are you know studs and scrubs?
Are you a balanced like, do you have an approach
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you go to.
Speaker 3 (44:37):
I've only done one draft and it's been the work
League draft, and I have been terrible at budgeting, Like
I'm mister blow the bag. Like bo Nicks would have
definitely went for more money, like one hundred percent. I
would have dropped like thirty dollars on bow Nicks, and
I even had read the room that they were cheap.
It's just that I'm so excited to spend the bag
and get my guy at one hundred percent. So I
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do think I need to work on my stre and
be a little bit more better if I can get
into more leagues that are at this format. But I'm
not really a guy that's going into every season with
at least one auction draft.
Speaker 1 (45:09):
So it's funny because you are not so you But
like I always like to nominate players that I don't
necessarily have an interest in, but I know other people
might be in on just to see if I can
dig in somebody's pockets a little bit. Yeah, you would
have done that.
Speaker 2 (45:24):
I would have been like, like I had, I would
be thrown out CMC and Saquon And but it got
to a point where I realized I had the most money,
and I was like, now I'm nominating the guys I
want because I want to get a chance at them
while I have money.
Speaker 1 (45:37):
Also, you can you can bully people.
Speaker 2 (45:38):
Yeah, like that's what I do a Brown and Warren.
And but I'll say this, like my one of my
home leagues is an auction draft. This one I was
being like very cautious not to spend too much money
and stuff. In my home league, it's the exact opposite.
Like I'm going in looking again as many big name
players as I can because I'm gonna find guys off
the waiver wire and stuff. And like in that league,
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like see would go for like eighty dollars out of
a two hundred dollars budget. So people are just blowing
their money fast enough. It very much so depends on
who you're drafting with in the size of your league
and stuff.
Speaker 1 (46:09):
Yeah, for sure, for sure. Yeah, always always interesting to
do an auction. First off, it's interest to an auction.
It's very interesting to do an auction in a room
full of people who do this consistently and who have
their guys.
Speaker 3 (46:22):
And hire a guy that does this. The speed talking,
that's what.
Speaker 1 (46:25):
They called the auctioneer, like an actual auctioneer, a guy
who in his real day to day life does like
cattle auctions and livestock auctions and that sort of thing.
And so like you know when you hear that's really
what he did. That was how he ran the auction
for for this fantasy draft.
Speaker 3 (46:44):
So do you think he's speaking faster than his brain
or is his brain speaking faster.
Speaker 2 (46:49):
He was going at fifty percent speed in the room
and I still couldn't process.
Speaker 1 (46:52):
So we can go faster.
Speaker 2 (46:54):
He told me that he does stuff where like it'll
the bid, it'll go for like two hundred thousand dollars,
something will go and I'm what number do you start with?
And he's like, I'll start low because it's more fun
for me, Like I'll just get to say numbers constantly. Like,
but he loves what he does.
Speaker 1 (47:07):
I guess, hey, he absolutely loves what he does. And
he's great at it. I know that. You know, we
had him having been in that room. He was the
auctioneer for a year, and I think for one year
he was unavailable and this year, like the buzz was, hey,
Evan is back to be our auctioneerybody's like, yeah, Evan's back,
you know. So it was a kind of chance, you know.
I think there's video of him floating around.
Speaker 2 (47:26):
Yeah, we actually played it today too.
Speaker 1 (47:29):
Oh cool.
Speaker 2 (47:29):
So if you if you want to check it out
on Fantasy Live or on the Fantasy Football Expo Twitter.
Speaker 1 (47:33):
I think, yeah, just check it out. It's a lot
of fun, all right. So there you go. That'll do
it for this edition. We'll be back with you tomorrow
because we're three times a week now, So back with
you tomorrow where we will start to look at week
two of the preseason, maybe kind of dive into some storylines,
things we would like to see and all that kind
of stuff as we get ready for another week of
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preseason football games. But in the meantime, that'll do it
for this edition of the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. They happy,
save and healthy, do good, and live well, enjoy the day. Everybody.
We will talk to you again tomorrow
Wow, Hey everybody, It's Wednesday, August thirteenth, twenty twenty five.
Welcome to the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast, where we do
everything perfectly legal. It's me and your randomg Marcus graduated
by Michael Flooryo and LaQuan Jones Florya. We were discussing
(00:23):
before you got here, before the show, what is more illegal? Oh, no, download,
downloading music or faking an address to go to a
different school.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
I don't think either one of those things should be illegal,
but I guess it would be downloading music because you're
kind of taking money from people like I played the
fifth though I've never done either one of those things
in my life.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
I've paid. I've paid for every single piece of music
I own.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
I never downloaded Limeyer never.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
There was a period where people started cracking down on that,
and I was like, do I need to be worried?
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Like they were gonna come after like.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Seventh grade me.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
You know, Well, here's the thing. I remember stories of like,
you know, the FBI took it in college dorm rooms
and like dragging you know, sophomores away or something like that.
I was like, hmm, should always be.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
The uploaders getting in trouble.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Yeah, we're just trying to enjoy I'm just trying to
do trying to download the chronic and hope it's actually
the chronic by the time I download the whole two
weeks later, right exactly. Anyway, that's not what the show
is about. We're gonna talk some fantasy football. Of course,
we have a little bit of hype train or smoke screen.
On a Monday show. We actually talked about the King's
(01:38):
Classic Snake Draft that I participated in. We also will
talk about the Auction Draft that Florio participated in, some
of the picks he made, and some of the values
that we saw across the board in that one. But
first is always want to get started with some news,
and Michael lef Floyo, it appears that your short regional
nightmare is over. James Cook and the Buffalo Bills have
(01:58):
agreed to terms on a four year, forty eight million
dollar contract. I think we all sort of knew that
it was going to end depth that the two sides
would come to an agreement at some point. It was
just a matter of how long it was going to take.
And thankfully it didn't really take all that long. Right now,
James Cook kind of a third round pick. Lakwan and
I were saying earlier, it feels kind of like everybody
(02:21):
kind of felt like this was gonna have a happy ending,
and so that's where the ADP is. But now that
he's officially signed, would you be willing to bump him
up your draft board at all?
Speaker 2 (02:31):
So I have him ranked right abound around where he
is going. I could see like pushing him ahead of
like maybe Breese Hall, who is all reports are that
he's splitting a lot of work and we did see
that in the preseason. But it's hard for me to
push him up too much higher than that because I
I think I haven't ranked him like, oh no, he's
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not gonna be there. I ranked him as like this
is all systems go, because from the start it just
made too much sense. There wasn't a situation where the
Bills are better without James Cook. There wasn't a situation
out there better for James Cook than staying with the Bills.
So I have kind of ranked him as if this
was going to happen. And yeah, I know last year
he finished higher than where he ranked, but right around
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RB twelve thirteen. That feels about right for me.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
So one of the things I think about James Cook,
part of the reason he's in the third round, Lakwan,
is that he has never really been a three down back.
It sounds like the Bills are trying to sell us
on this idea that he's going to be a three
down back. Are you buying any of that?
Speaker 3 (03:37):
Hey, let's keep it a bean. I might be buying that.
I mean, I do think that they're looking at him
as hey, we paid you the bag, we're gonna treat
you as such. But I think they're honestly looking at
what Joe Brady has been able to do with James Cook.
And since he's taken over James Cook, we have seen
the best version of him. We've seen him get plenty
of opportunities in the goal line area and be able
to succeed in the red zone, to be able to
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have those sixteen touchdowns. I do think that, you know,
I'm buying a little bit of it, because again, they've
rewarded him in the bag. He feels as though he
could be a three down back and if you got
the GM keeping the bean, he's going to be able
to go out there and put up RB one numbers
for me.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
You see, because the GM is named Brandon Bean.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
Yeah you see bean Ah, you like that. I don't
with a little East Coast flavor for you.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
We're just weaving things together here on this show. That's
what we do. Yeah. Look, I I haven't drafted a
ton of James Cook. I've drafted a little bit just
because the Bills have told us that they don't like
him as a three down back. The Bills have told
us they kind of want to work guys in. So
I think there's value there on a team that's going
to score a lot of points, that's gonna win a
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lot of games, and he's going to be a big
part of that. But I just haven't found myself particularly.
I say, I'm not reaching for him if if he
falls to me, you know, in the natural course of
the draft, and I'm willing to kind of take the
shot at it, but I'm not like going out trying
to target him.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
There was a point this summer where he was going
in the fourth round pretty concent insistantly, and I was like,
all right, I'm gonna keep taking him there. Like, but yeah,
I think we saw in the playoffs that James Cook
can be a workhorse, but when you have Todd Johnson
and Ray Davis there, you don't need to make him that.
And Bean said that today, he was like, we think
he is a three down back, but we don't have
(05:16):
to use him as that, and we could keep him fresh.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Yeah. I always just think it's important to sort of
listen to what the team is telling us, you know,
not just with their words, but also with their actions
and how they use a guy and everything about James
Cook's career with the Bill says they just don't want
to use him in that role, and I think we
should adjust accordingly. In Green Bay, a little bit of
issues here. Jordan Love expected to undergo a procedure on
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his left thumb that is not his throwing hand, but
he is not expected to miss Week one. In fact,
there's a talk that he may be back next week
for preseason games or preseason workouts, So that seems very
very minimal. A little bit more of a concern. Christian
Watson dealing with a need issue, likely to begin the
season and on the pupp list, which means the Packers
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are right now down to seventeen healthy wide receivers on
their roster, only seventeen it's in only seventeen He's trying
to figure out which one is going to catch the
ball in any given week. So with the quarterback kind
of banged up, one of the wide receivers are down.
It's a wide receiver room that I think we're all
generally avoiding just because there are so many guys and
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they spread the ball around. Lukwan, you are higher on
Josh Jacobs than most people I think across that industry.
So does this mean Josh Jacobs officially rockets to the
moon in like the first four weeks or so of
the season.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
I think it's already wheels up for him. But absolutely
when you got all the wide receivers banged up right now,
I mean you've seen the video of Jayden Reed doing
push ups in a walking boot. I mean, like, this
guy's committed to prove that he is the big dog
of the room. But at the end of the day,
all these guys stay banged up. But looking at Josh
Jacobs last year, I get that he's not the sexy
pick right now, and he's going outside the top ten.
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This guy had sixteen hundred yards, he had sixteen touchdowns,
and we're looking at a guy that showed he could
be an explosive back. Still there is no signs of
declining in his yards per carry and any of the
situation that you look at in the backfield. There is
really nobody back there able to take these touches away
from him. And look, only five running backs last season
were responsible for forty percent of their team touches. Josh
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Jacobs is one of them. This is a group among
Saquon Barkley, Jean Robinson, Jonathan Taylor, and kyn Williams. So
again him going outside the top ten running backs right now,
I'm a little confused. Was that last name you said,
Kyron Williams. Yes, Willis was part of that forty percent,
ladies and gentlemen, But I do not think that's going
(07:43):
to be true this season though.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
I just love getting him to talk about his own player.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
I'll take Kyron over Josh personally.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
What that's crazy.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
That's crazy talk, man.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
So you said you had a theory, by the way, Florio,
of why it is that people just aren't in on Josh. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
So me and a buddy of ours of mine that
I share a team with, we're getting ready for a
draft and we have the number one pick. So we're like,
all right, we're taking Jim ar Chase and we were
talking about grabbing a running back on the two three
turn and who could realistically be there, and Josh Jacobs was.
It was like Chase Brown, Kyrien Williams, Jonathan Taylor, Josh Jacobs,
Bucky Irving, and we were like, Josh Jacobs probably goes
(08:22):
the last of that bunch for us because he's not
sexy at all, and even last year fifteen rushing touchdowns
a career high, He's the RB eight in Fantasy points
per game. I think that is the difference to me,
Like Josh Jacob's floor might be one of it is
one of the safest at the running back position, but
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the ceiling is not all that much higher. Like I
think all of those running backs in that range bring
a bit of a higher ceiling. Like Jonathan Taylor, we've
seen finish as the RB one before. Bucky Irving was
really great last year as a rookie. We've seen Kyrien
Williams do it at a very high level. He was
(09:06):
the RB two in points per game just a couple
of years ago. So I think that is the difference,
But I am willing to because I feel like I
have a personal bias towards Josh Jacobs and I'm always
like kind of lower on him than most. So I
was sicking last night. I was like, is this a
me problem?
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Like?
Speaker 2 (09:23):
And I came in and I said it before. I
was like, I am willing to change my tune on
Josh Jacobs, but I don't. I just keep going back
to that He's just not very exciting.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
So would it change your mind at all? If I
reminded you that Josh Jacobs was the RB one in
twenty twenty two with the Raiders when you had sixteen
hundred rushing yards and was.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
It, well, he's the RB three and per game then
all right.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
Yeah, that was one hundred yards and twelve rushing touch
Yeah to me.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
I always look back at that year as the outlier,
but last year he did it, so yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
And and the Packers are a top five rushing offense.
And I get that it might have been an outlier
that they ran the ball that much. But if it
ain't bro, why fix it? I mean, Josh Jacobs has
been one of the safest floor running backs like you
mentioned Florida, but guys like Bucky Irvin that are going
round before him again, Bucky Irvin's ceiling maybe Josh Jacobs's floor.
Let's be honest, Like, I do think that the Bucks
(10:19):
want to get Bucky the ball more, But does Bucky
really handle that full workload healthy for seventeen games? And
obviously they like Sean Tucker. He's getting all the praise
and Owen right, Look, he looked good in the preseason.
Man that that could be competition there for Sean Tucker.
But I do think that they have guys in that
room that can handle the workload along with Bucky Irvin.
(10:40):
So I'm gonna go with the not sexy pick in
Josh Jacobs, the workhorse in a top five rushing offense.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
Yeah, everything you say is right, and somehow I do
still feel like Florida. I look at Josh Jacobs that
are kind of like, I mean, look at everything you
say is one hundred percent correct, right, Like I can't argue,
I can't refute any of it. But I see Josh
Jacobs on the board, I'm kind of like, Eh, what
else is out there? You know?
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Yeah, like the other like he could be better than Bucky,
but you're gonna have way more fun with Bucky. You
know like, yeah, like Josh Jacobs is your friend that
like you go you play video games. You know you're
gonna have a good time. But then there's other people
You're like, I can go out and and you know,
do like do crazy.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Things like that. You know, we might go to jail
but a night, yes, exactly that. Yeah, yeah, that's terrible.
That's terrible. It really is terrible. But you know, I mean,
you know, we know how how people operate for sure.
All right, uh, Brandon, I you the forty nine ers
are hoping that he will be ready to go by
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week six of the regular season. He's still dealing, uh
with the effects of a knee injury. I found an
interesting floial because I looked at fantasy pros adp and
Brandon I, Ricky Pierce, all Juwan Jennys. We're all ranked
back to back to back in terms of the wide
receiver position, one after the other. Which one would you
(12:02):
prefer at this point? And they're all by You're by you,
They're all in the wide receiver like forty four, forty five,
forty six something around there.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
I think they're all good. I think you should get
there should be a gap between Ayuk and the other
two because he's gonna yeah six weeks, yeah, like the
other two are there to start, although I do have
a lot of Ayuk in my early drafts right now,
like the drafts have done already, h I just keep
taking him as a backup wide receiver and hoping that
he can propel me in the second half. I think
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Juwan Jennings should be the first one to go because
we've seen he has the rapport with Brock Purdy. I
think he is the combination of floor and they're still
upside there. The other two, to me are upside picks
like I like Ricky Piersoll a lot. And again, I
think all of these guys are value because Brock Perdy
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has shown us that he could be consistently good year
over year. Kyle Shanahan runs one of the highest EPA
offenses in the league. Like, I want pieces of the
forty nine ers, and if you're gonna let me get
them at wide receiver fore costs, I'll do it all day.
But I do think it should be how it was
like earlier in the summer, where it was like Jennings
then a slight little gap, then pearsall then a slight
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gap and then I.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
Yuke, so I'm with you. I've drafted a lot of
iut but again as like a fourth receiver with the
hope being if he comes back healthy and productive, then
suddenly it's like, oh, I feel like I got two
or three wide receiver ones potentially on this roster if
that's how it turns out. And you know, if it
doesn't work out that way, well I didn't spend a
whole lot in the draft. You get the guy, so
it's not as big of a deal. I'm lakwan. Last year,
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Ricky Piersoll finished the season pretty strong. I averaged about
fourteen and a half PPR points per game I think
over the last month or so of the season. I
get it. It was a small sample size on a
team that was struggling, that had a ton of injuries
last year, and so he kind of got his chance,
his opportunity. I'm are you sort of buying into that?
Is there something there with Rickey Pearso or was it
(13:58):
just him taking advantage of a situation.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
I've kind of changed my tune this whole off season
and like buying the dip on somebody's wide receivers for
the forty nine Ers, but they're constantly strapped to injury,
Like it's always something you know, Brandon and I you
coming back maybe two week six, Ricky piersol Dean with
a hamstring. Now you got a calf injury with Jawan Jennings.
Like I'm almost at a point now with my late
drafts coming up in August, like I kind of don't
want any of Like I only want George Kittle and
(14:24):
like I feel like he is such a great value
where he's going in tight ends in terms that you're
not paying that premium price in the second round for
McBride or Brockers. So like there's really only three things
that I really want from this forty nine Ers offense.
And it's like I'm looking at George Kiddo's value and
the other two things are pain and suffering when the Rams,
you know, end up getting a ring this year in
their home. So that's the only thing I want involved
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with the forty nine Ers this season.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
Anyway, We're gonna talk about my auction draft from the
weekend later, But I got both Jennings and Ayuk for
combined sixteen dollars.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
Ricky Pearson would for twenty ooh.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
What Ricky coming from Ricky Pierano.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
But there's a lot of hype about Richard.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
I get it, he's a chess piece that Shanahan can
move all over the field, But like you know better
than anyone, who do you think is going to lead
them in targets?
Speaker 4 (15:14):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (15:14):
I think a healthy a healthy Juwan Jennings leads them
in targets. And like to your point, though, Lakwan right
now dealing with a calf injury. I do think it's
funny because you know, he made the request for a
new contract or whatever, and then he started missing time
and everybody's like, oh, is he holding out AND's like, no, no,
for really, like he's actually he really actually is hurt, right,
Like yeah, like no, this is not a contract thing.
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This is not him holding out, Like he really has
a calf injury, and so they're they're dealing with that.
I think when healthy, I think he does lead this
team in targets. I think the hype about Ricky Pearsall
is a combination of one what he did at the
end of last year, but two recognizing that part of
the reason he was drafted was because the organization realized
(15:56):
at some point they were going to have to make
a decision between between Brandon and Deebo Samuel. Obviously it's
Samuel that's not there, but the idea being, well, this
opens up a spot for him to get on the
field more and now he's going to potentially work out
of the slot do maybe some of the I won't
say all the things, but some of the things that
Deebo Samuel could do. And I think that's where the
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excitement is coming from.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
But where where does Ricky Piersoll fit in this hype?
Speaker 1 (16:21):
Though? Like?
Speaker 3 (16:21):
Where does he fit in that target order? Like it's
Jawan Jennings, Brandon, I you, George Kittle CMC, and then
it's like Ricky Piersoll in the mix of that, Like
do we really want to strap ourselves to that? I
get that the talent's there, the smooth operator, the great
route runner, I mean, the one hand to catch that
he had, that goes on and on with his college highlights.
But I just feel like I'm a little stand offish
(16:42):
where it's a dangerous game, like his ADP is going
where Roma doonsay is going? Where I rather have him?
I mean that's our discontent.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
I will say, I would say that is kind of spicy, right,
if he's going in the same route, say yeah, areas
as Romodonsay, I think that's definitely spicy. But I also
think this idea of him maybe having a six week
runway with IUK not there to sort of get up
and running again, and then it becomes an issue of Okay,
well now you got guys who are gonna get targeted.
(17:10):
The other part of this is, and I I love
George Kittle. I've drafted George Kittle. There are going to
be weeks when the Niners want to run the ball
a lot, and then George Kittle becomes a de facto
sixth lineman for that team, right because because we have
those weeks, yeah, where he gets three targets, because they're
just gonna give the bottomccaffrey or whomever thirty times and
they're gonna ask coeg George Kittle just be a block.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
I like, to whoever, I could.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
You just know right?
Speaker 1 (17:35):
You know, you know, I.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Will say Taylor George Kittle, Like I have concerns about
George Kittle, Like, it's nothing to do with Kittle himself.
It's the fact that last year everyone was hurt and
it kind of propelled him to have a season that
he's only had one time before, like six years ago.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
Yeah, I think think.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
Everybody's hurt now.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
I CMC being out is what really propelled Kittle because
all those catch and run quick targets that usually go
to him, where Kittle's the lead blocker on those, Yeah,
they were now going to Kittle.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
Yeah. I mean I think George Kettle has always been
the week to week consistency as.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
Ever, I don't like that either, Yeah, I mean that's.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
Always just been the case, right, It's just that he'll
have those weeks where he'll score three touchdowns, and then
he'll have the weeks where he has three targets. Right.
It's it's just sort of hard to figure. It's one
of those things where you look at the overall number,
you're like, oh, yeah, he was the tight end three. Yeah,
but you may have forgotten or maybe you didn't have
him so you didn't experience the week to week Yeah,
(18:36):
anxiety over He'll like.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
Three games where he puts up twenty five and then
like four where he puts up like seven, right, And it's.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
Like, I do think if you're drafting Kittle, you're most
likely going to take a tight end two in your draft,
and that's just an insurance policy there, because again, Kittle
has his banged up weeks. You know that he's playing
through or the times where he's not available because of injuries.
So I think the value where he he's at right
now is perfectly priced because again I don't want to
pay the premium for a Brockers or McBride. So I
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definitely think you're kind of strapped to getting a tight
end two in that area late like mid to late
round to have that inshorance policy for those certain weeks.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
I'm a I just came up with a with an
idea for us to do on a segment, put together
the al Doci team, the guys that give you anxiety.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
I like it. Yeah, I want to do that.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
Do want to show at least that sometime in the future. Okay,
We're do a little bit of high train or smoke
screen to take a quick break, come back, and to
talk about whether or not we believe some of these
headlines that are floating around on the interwebs right now.
That's coming up next on the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast.
All right, time for a little bit of preseason hype
train or Smoke scream who scoured the interwebs for minutes
(19:52):
at a time to come up with some headlines that
you know may or may not actually come to fruition here.
So the first one, DJ Moore says he is open
to the what he's calling daunting task of lining up
at running back, saying that Ben Jonson's trying to do
different things move him around, and that he's lining up
occasionally at running back. Now. I will also freely admit
(20:14):
that a lot of what he's doing at running back
is just running routes. They're not asking him to take handoffs.
Maybe they will occasionally. Florio is just really gonna be
a thing, Hype Trader smoke screen on DJ Moore being
like a useful, not useful, but consistently used piece at
running back.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
That's a smoke screen. I think we could see it occasionally.
I don't think it'll be a consistent thing. But what
I think we could see from DJ Moore is him
utilized all over the field, Like I think we could
see him play the X, the Y in the slot,
like he he is that good where he could win
from anywhere. And you have Roma Doonsday, who's more a
traditional expert receiver out wide Luthor Burden more traditional out
(20:56):
of the slot, but like he is that chess piece
and the Bears are one of the teams that I'm
most going after this year. Like I have DJ Moore ranked,
I believe I have him as my wide receiver thirteen
or fourteen. Yet ADP he's going like twenty three to
twenty four. I'm a little bit higher on a Donsay
than consensus DeAndre Swift, So like, yeah, maybe if it
(21:17):
feels dirty a little bit, because the Bears have never
been a good passing attack ever in the history of life.
But like I think Ben Johnson changes things.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
A lot this year. I think he changes things a
lot too. I Mean I've gone on record saying that
this is the year they finally get a four thousand
yard passer, that Caleb Williams is going to finally break
that curse. I have been very big on Romo Doonsay.
I haven't drafted a lot of Dj Moore and hasn't
necessarily been a purposeful avoidance thing. I just haven't necessarily
drafted him, but I have been in a spot to
get a Dunsay a lot. I'm very excited about him.
(21:46):
I'm I mean, Lakwa when we hear stuff like this,
like it feels like wide receiver moving to running back
is the new version of the running back who's going
to line up out on the slot. Right, That's exactly
what I was thinking that that is the Batman smoke
screen right there, right in your face.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
And like, I think we'll probably see it like once
or twice this season where he catches a pat I
mean he runs a route of the backfield and kind
of catches it very running back like or him getting
a handoff. Like, I don't think it will be at
a high rate enough for us to be like super
excited about this news, but I am going to mirror
what you know Florio said. It is just basically like
(22:24):
he's gonna be used everywhere the versatility he brings, and
he's one of the best after to catch as well.
So it's like I'm looking at DJ Moore as my
wide receiver twelve of my rankings that I am very
high on him to be one of those guys that
we have in the conversations of the DK Metcalfs and
the the Nico Collins and Drake London's and like, I
do feel like you know he gets looked at as
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a wide receiver too, but I think this is a
wide receiver one season for him.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
I mean, I think that could definitely be the case too,
right if the offense goes the way we expect it
to go. I think the other part of this is
the like one hundred and twenty some on targets or
whatever it was that that Keenan Allen vacated. They're not
gonna all go to one person, but you gotta believe
DJ Moore is gonna get a few extra. Romo Dunese
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may get a few extra, like Luther Burden will certainly
get his. But I would like to think that the
top two receivers who have already been there are gonna
be the ones to display.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
And people forget that Caleb distributed the ball like evenly
amongst the three wide receivers, all three of them had
one hundred plus targets. So I definitely think it's possible,
you know, we can get a little bit more versatility
at DJ Moore to be manufactured touches. So I'm all
on board at that. Like, I don't know what people
are doing, man, they're sleeping on DJ Moore this season.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
To Laquan's point. I know it's gonna be different with
Ben Johnson, but last year, not only did they distribute
the ball well, like it was kind of clear like
in the red zone, Okay, Roma Duneesday, that is where
you're going to shine more of a downfield guns or
like yeah, guy, that's where DJ Moore was gonna come in.
So like I trust Ben Johnson to because they're very
different skill sets, I trust Ben Johnson to put each
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player in the bed. Like He's not going to force
a player to do something that he wants them to do.
He's gonna scheme up what's the best case scenario for
that player.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
Every year there's a coach that you your reports, Hey
this this coach is working to his player's strengths. And
I'm like, yeah, man, that's what a good should work, right,
I mean, and I guess what was happening before. Well,
here's the It wasn't happening like that before. I mean,
it was just sort of like, Okay, you're coming into
our system, you're coming into our office. We want you
to fit what we do. And you know, I mean
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sometimes it would work because if you scouted well and
you recruit, you know, and you you drafted well, you
could get guys to fit your system, But more often
than that, why not build around what your guys do well?
Like we treated as revolutionary when it's just like, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
If you're like Sean Payton, you you ever earned the
right to be like I want you guys who fit
my system. But if you're a first time head coach,
get out of here.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
If you're in a fan packet, yeah you know, yeah,
maybe work around your guys a little bit more.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
He's man four years now.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
Side note to that everybody said this at the time
on this show. That like when all the other coaches
were upset about Sean Payton throwing Thethaniel Hacket under the bus,
nobody said he was wrong. Yes, everybody like everyone was
just like, hey, man, like, don't maybe don't say it
out loud.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
That's not we don't say that to the medium. But
no one was like, man, he's a he's a really.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
Good Nobody actually stood up for him, and nobody actually fit.
They're just like, hey, man, like this, just don't say
that out loud, you know, something like that. Travis Kelce
admits that acting and being an entertainer impacted his NFL performance.
We could sort of watch Travis Kelcey last year and
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realize that he wasn't the same player he had been
a few years.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
When did he say this?
Speaker 1 (25:53):
He said this a couple of days ago on his pod.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
And then released a whole photo shoot looking like Razor Ramote.
Maybe be consistent with your messaging. I'm just saying, you know,
I will give.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
Him a little bit of a pass figuring that the
photo shoot happened like a while ago, probably, but I
just got but yeah, the time, the timing is not great. Yeah,
timing's not great.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
Also, you're still married to or or engage or the
engage dating something to. There's no world where he could
just shut that part of his life out, you know.
And I'm not saying he should, but like.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
I mean, so, I'm gonna ask you, look on I
mean high trainer smoke screen that this was because here's
even as down of a year as it was for him,
he was still the tight end five. Yeah, so I
hype trainer smokes, did this? Did you know? Look, he
was on the Era's tour, he's got the podcast with
his brother, He's dating a billionaire pop star maybe the
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most fam.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
NFL built the schedule around her schedule.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
I mean, like literally maybe the most famous woman in
the world right now, right So are you are you,
you know, throwing the BS flag on this or is
there something to it?
Speaker 3 (27:07):
Not hype trained?
Speaker 1 (27:07):
Man?
Speaker 3 (27:07):
I think this is the Michael Jackson. This is it
tour for him, So I think he wants to go
off on a good note. And again where he's going
in drafts, You're not paying that premium price you used
to in the past, so I'm not exactly fading him.
Like if he falls to me in that seventh eighth
round where he's been going, come on a board, man,
if you're gonna take accountability and recognize your distractions of
all field now you want to lock in and lead
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the NFL and retire on a good note. I'm buying
in because I'm not paying that premium price we used
to in the past. Like we remember that Travis kelcey
was going in the back and in the first round
at one point. I mean, that's a little expensive for
a tight end. I'm here complaining about McBride and Bowers
going in the second round right now, So I'm buying it.
Like Travis Kelcey, Man, do what you want man the
distraction to all field. I don't care. You're cheap right
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now in drafts, and I'm not going to complain.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
All right, how are you feeling about that?
Speaker 2 (27:53):
The exact opposite. I've literally I've done a ton of drafts.
I've never won straft to Travis Kelce because I say
it a lot, the age cliff, it happens quick at
the NFL level. He's gonna be thirty six years old
this year, coming off of not one but two years
of declining in a row. And I think what propelled
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him to that tight end finish last year with circumstances
everyone around him was hurt. There was no Marquis Brown,
there was no Rashi Rice, there was no Isaiah Pacheco.
Xavier Worthy was a rookie. It led to him having
one hundred and thirty three targets. I if those other
guys are healthy around him, I don't think he gets plus.
Even with that, it wasn't like a consistent week to
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week thing. He had maybe three or four good, really
good fantasy weeks. Every other week was more of a
floor week. And I think the Chiefs, like they always do,
they care about the playoffs. They want Travis kelce to
be healthy and be fresh for the playoffs. I think
that was their plan last year. Remember he came off
to such a slow start when those other guys were healthy,
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and then once it all kind of broke down, everything
changed on the fly. But I don't want to have
invested in someone who I know needs this many volume
to get eight hundred yards.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
I maybe in his mind the acting and the you know,
world tours or whatever impact is his NFL performance. I
think what impacted his NFL performance more is just father time.
I mean just age. He just looked a step or
two slower than what we were used to see Travis
Kelcey at his peak. I don't know if you've ever
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paid attention to like when he catches a pass in
the middle of the field and turns around. Yes, he
turns around like there's a Scooby Doo villain behind him, right,
Like he's just like you expected. Like when he turns around, like,
that's what I hear in my head. That was in
the best of times with Travis Kelcey. Now, as you mentioned,
he's thirty six years old, he's played a ton of games,
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He's taken some wear and tear, because I think it
can't be discounted that during this run for the Chiefs,
you know, going to AFC championship games, going to Super Bowls,
winning Super Bowls, the Chiefs have probably played almost a
full season more of games and just about everybody else.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
I mean they're playing three four playoff games a year.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
A year, right, so they have literally played almost a
full season of games more than just about everybody else
in the league. I don't care who you are, that
catches up with you at some point, and so yeah,
I mean, maybe he wasn't fully focused on on football.
I get that when your girlfriend is a billionaire and
flying you all around the world and you're eating at
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the best restaurants and you're staying at the nights of hotel.
I was like, yeah, I get it, you know, like
I ain't mad at it. Man, we all wish we
could live that life to some extent. But I think
the thing that has impacted him more than anything is
just he's just getting older and he's just slowing down,
and it happens to everybody.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
And I don't want to sound like I'm taking shots,
but like he's still podcasting, he's still gonna be to
tour with Taylor Switt. She has a new album coming.
I'm sure that's not gonna take any time.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
I saw a post on Blue Sky was her with
a headset on, and they're like Taylor Swifts of the
podcast and a whole lot of folks that I don't
do podcasts like big deal, So am I I think.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
Her listeners my might beat hours.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
By me a little bit. Sure, sure, Like.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
All please don't come.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
From like you know, if somebody, if somebody talks trash
about us on the internet, We're not gonna have a
whole bunch of people like flooding and you know, mentioned bombing.
Those people. You know they're like, well yeah, Twitter, now exactly.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
My wife has been flaying a couple of battles for me.
So I think I got one of the one of
the troops ready to go.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
You got internet shooters, all right? Cool? Demiko Ryan says,
John Meshi showed up along a tight competition at Wide Receiver. Look.
John Meshi's story has been, you know, kind of a frustrating,
interesting one. You know, obviously had the missy years because
of health issues, has kind of really battled back, but
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it's never really had an opportunity to be a part
of the offense here Floria. I know we have our
own questions about the Houston Texans wide receivers. Do you
have any real belief that John Metchi can be a
Fantasy relevant guy this year?
Speaker 2 (32:12):
I think he could be relevant for the Texans and
a great story and a fan favorite and all of that.
I don't think for Fantasy, at least initially, because Nico
Collins is your unquestioned one. I think Christian Kirk is
your two, and that's gonna be your two wide receiver sets.
And then in three wide receiver sets, there's Jaden Higgins,
there's Jalen Noel. It's just very crowded. And I said
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this on Fantasy Live Today, Like even for like Higgins
and Noel, I think it takes an injury for those
guys to become weekly starters. Like they'll have some weeks
where they pop. Higgins will catch a touchdown or two
something like that. You could plug him in a pinch,
But I think to get enough consistent volume where you're like,
this guy's an every week starter for me, one of
those top two guys need to go down.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
Yeah, I just I don't. I don't know, LaQuan, it
just doesn't feel like there's enough vague, there's not enough snaps,
I think in this offense.
Speaker 3 (33:02):
For John that's the big thing. Yeah, you know, yeah,
I do think right now he's putting great things on film,
like he's putting great things on tape to be auditioning
for another team because the room is very crowded, Like
it's hard to see him being anywhere near Fantasy relevant
with this crowded room, the talent that they have, and
then even the cycle of when you know, he was
dealing with his difficult times in his rookie year and
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then coming back these these the Texans have drafted you know,
wide receiver since then, so it's like it's always been
a constant crowded rooms. So I think he may be auditioning,
you know, for another home and again he might land
somewhere where he might have an opportunity to show up
and show out because he's a very very good player
and like the stuff that he's doing in preseason right now,
it's really impressive, creating separation, making the big time catches
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like this is everything that we liked him coming out
of college. So it's like, I do think if he
finds another place, then we can revisit this conversation.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
Yeah, I think so, you know, and root for him
to find some success somewhere. Mentioned missed that rookie season
battling leukemia. Has been able to get back on the field,
but it just doesn't feel like there's room in Houston
for him despite whatever. Yeah, look, I know the Miko
Ryan's probably cheering for him, but they're just I think
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the reality is that the numbers game is.
Speaker 3 (34:17):
Just he's a player's coach. He's supposed to.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
Yeah, that's true. That's fair. That's absolutely fair. All Right,
we got an auction draft to talk about Michael if
Florio did an auction for the King's Classic this past
weekend in Can't Ohio, or we will dive into some
of his picks. I would tell you this spoiler alert.
It is the most Florio team ever. It is the
most Florio team ever. So we will dive into that
and look at some of the other players and kind
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of where they went and what they what values they
would for. That's coming up next on the NFL Fantasy
Football Podcast. So the King's Classic over the weekend happening
in Can't Ohio was part of the Fantasy Football Expo.
We talked on Monday about my team in the Snake Draft. Florio,
you wanted to get in the league. I was like, hey,
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we do two drafts, maybe you could take one of mine.
You volunteered for the auction.
Speaker 2 (35:07):
I was excited.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
I was like you said, you were like, hey, can
I do the auction? I was like, say, less.
Speaker 3 (35:12):
Man, Yeah, how long was that draft?
Speaker 1 (35:16):
How long did it take you guys to draft that?
Speaker 2 (35:18):
We were done way faster than because there's two at
the same time. They started at the same time as us.
And I was done and I would and some people
have like seven roster spots left to fill, and I
was like, I was done. We kicked off at one.
I was done by three thirty.
Speaker 1 (35:33):
Okay, that's not bad at all.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
Yeah, I was preparing for to go to like six
o'clock at night with the way people were telling me.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
Yeah, I having done that draft and you know in
the past about three maybe three and a half hours
is kind of what it would take. So for you
to get done in two and a half, that's that's excellent.
I did come in the room early ish, earlyish, and
and well, at first I think I came in the
room and you just had one player. You had had Bajon,
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which you got for fifty one dollars. I left, I
kind of went wandered and talked to some people, came
back and it was very much you had Bajon, you
had Tyler Warren, you had aj Brown, you had Justin Field.
I'm like, yeah, this is this is totally your squad.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
So the funny thing was I didn't really plan on
going after Bajon, but Chase Jamar. Chase went for sixty
and then Bajon is sitting there at fifty and I
was like, you know what, I'll take a nine dollars
just and I was like, if he goes up further,
and then I got him. And I was just sitting
there for a while, and at one point Bob Long
was like, you know the you have to spend money, right,
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And then it was like I nominated A J. Brown
got him, and then Trayvion Fields and Warren all got
nominated like boom, boom boom, and then Bob was like,
maybe I shouldn't have up and everyone.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
So you look at the roster, your roster, Jon Robinson,
uh Tyler Warren, A J. Brown, let's look at your
quarterbacks first, justin fields, Jared Goff. Are your quarterbacks at
running back? John Robinson, Trevion Henderson, Jarquist Hunter, Isaiah Pacheco,
Jayden Blue, Elijah Mitchell. There's definitely some uh Lakwan influence.
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I think uh in here as well. What was for
you Lakwan Hunter? I know, I know in the past,
l Q, you've been an Elijah Mitchell guy. I don't
know if you still are, but I know in the
past you have been.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
Checko Hancoff.
Speaker 1 (37:33):
Okay, that makes sense.
Speaker 3 (37:35):
Smart.
Speaker 1 (37:36):
Yeah. Wide receivers A J. Brown, Calvin Ridley, Juwan Jennings, Brandon.
I you Joshua Palmer, Dante Thornton, and Deontay Johnson. I
mean definitely the A. J. Brown and Ridley, the Deontay
Johnson Johnson. That's that's that's heavy. That's heavy. Florio.
Speaker 2 (37:54):
I do wish that Ridley was my three and not
my two. But in a fourteen team league, like I can,
getting just the players I thought I would get were
going for way more than I.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
Thought they would go for. Yeah, and then your one
tight end is Tyler Warren. And I'm trying to look
so I mean, I feel like, you got some some
pretty good values. The one thing that I noticed, and
you talked about this after the draft, the quarterback values
generally speaking were very depressed.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
Yeah, when I bought Justin Fields. When I won Justin Fields,
I should say he was so bow Knicks. Look, Mauricio
from NFL Mexico snuck in bo Nicks.
Speaker 1 (38:33):
Bonix for two dollars.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
He threw that out there, So bo Nicks two dollars
and no one, no one did so.
Speaker 1 (38:38):
He just he got away as a believer.
Speaker 2 (38:40):
But but then it went Josh. It was Lamar for
twenty six, Josh Allen for twenty four, and Jayden Daniels
for twenty and then I got Fields for seven, and
I'm like, okay, the back, Like that's gonna be a
good value. And then the only other quarterbacks that win
more for him were Jalen Hurts and Joe Burrow for
fourteen each, which I think is insane price.
Speaker 1 (39:01):
I mean, Patrick Mahomes goes for five, Baker Mayfield, I
see he's at three, Whell Stafford with for two.
Speaker 2 (39:11):
Kyler went for four. I was Caleb for four, Like
it was much less than I expected. I still love
Justin Fields, but I was like, I wish I got it.
And at one point it was like I was at
four dollars for him, and it was like once twice
so and then so it was like five and then six,
and I was like, come on, you couldn't have just
let me have him. I'm getting him either way. It's
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just a matter for how much.
Speaker 1 (39:34):
I mean. I like, I looked because you spent seven
dollars on Justin Fields and Nate Markham from Fantasy and
frames uh spent six on three quarterbacks combined. Yeah, I
was looking at Dak Prescott for four, Anthony Richardson and
Justin Herbert for a buck. Justin Herbert for a buck.
Speaker 2 (39:51):
Man Like, yeah, I don't.
Speaker 3 (39:53):
He did work.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
Nate did turn to me and was like, I wish
I went to eight on Fields, but yeah, no, he
got He got fantastic value there. And I liked getting
golf because I like pairing a safe quarterback with someone
like Fields, because Fields is all upside. Jared Goff, I
think is gonna be one of my more drafted quarterbacks
this year because you're getting him out a two. I
know a lot has changed in Detroit, but that still
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feels like his floor.
Speaker 1 (40:16):
Yeah, I'm looking at.
Speaker 3 (40:18):
Dollars of value as well. That's that same floor block
Party had a dollar.
Speaker 1 (40:23):
Yeah, block Party at a dollar is interesting. I'm also
looking I look at Ian Hartz's roster, where twenty two
for Travis Hunter, twenty eight for Tech McMillon sort of geez,
opens my eyes. You know, I like Travis Hunter, so
the twenty two I sort of get. I know, there's
a lot of excitement about him. Twenty eight for Tech
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mc millon that surprises.
Speaker 2 (40:45):
Twenty four for pickings, twenty five for something, and they
all happened like all the big name receivers were still
on the board when Ian was was getting these guys.
It was a joke in the room that like Ian
had his full roster filled out and he had like
four dollars left. Well, everyone else had like three players
on their team. He was the most aggressive one in
that room by far.
Speaker 1 (41:04):
Yeah. I did walk in there and just felt like
it felt like Ian was was building a team because
he had a plane to catch.
Speaker 2 (41:10):
If it was like a point per bid league, Ian
won because every player Ian was in on until he
had no more money.
Speaker 1 (41:15):
All right, rich reebar Uh fifty one for Ceede Lamb
and forty nine for Drake Linda. So he spent one
hundred dollars on his top two receivers one nine. If
you throw in the twenty nine dollars for t Higgins,
he would be yeah, wide receiver.
Speaker 2 (41:30):
Worthy for seventeen, like he I didn't plan on going
RB heavy, but I felt like the running back values
were at this point in the draft, the receivers were
going for a lot more than the running backs in
that ring.
Speaker 1 (41:44):
Did you have a particular strategy going into this one?
Speaker 2 (41:47):
Get my guys? Like I was like, I want fields,
I want Trevion, I want Warren, I want agent. So
I ideally I thought I was gonna end up with
like a fifty dollars receiver instead of Bajon. But when
I won Bajon, I had to pivot on the fly.
But I was like, I really wanted Neighbors and I
was willing to go up to like high forties for him.
But once I had I didn't want to have one
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hundred plus dollars spent on two players, you know, So
when I bought Bajon, I was waiting for aj Brown
because like I got him for thirty four dollars. Look
at like what the other wide receivers. One went for
Puko for thirty nine. I think was a good cost,
but like Lad McConkie went for forty four. All of
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the guys that I have ranked as wide receiver ones
everyone went.
Speaker 1 (42:33):
For like five or more dollars and Neighbors went for
forty eight.
Speaker 2 (42:37):
Yeah, I got Agent for fourteen dollars cheaper, you know, Like,
So that was my strategy, was to get aj in draft.
But then it was kind of trying to find value
and I think later in the rounds like Jennings for nine,
I Yuke for seven. I know not everyone loves Josh Palmer.
I'm starting to come around to him, but I was like,
let me get I don't want all dollar players. So
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I wanted to be able to get guys that I
think I could still plug in that are still cheap.
Speaker 1 (43:03):
Yeah. I trying to look at some of the other
interesting interesting bids.
Speaker 3 (43:08):
Interesting, I mean interesting, is Mike or Seki going for
fourteen dollars? Like what was going on there?
Speaker 2 (43:14):
That was definitely a like Wandel went for eleven. It
was a whatever money you had left on your final play.
Speaker 1 (43:21):
Exactly what it feels like. That feels like I got
fourteen dollars left I just.
Speaker 2 (43:24):
Need to get because that's why I bought Deontay for five.
I could have gone for a dollar, but it was
my term and nominated. I was like Deontay five, and
they were like sold, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (43:31):
No, one's no, one's gonna go six on Deontay Johnson
for sure. Yeah. I just like the quarterback values being
down kind of surprised me. The wide receiver values, I
think at some point being up, I think sort of
speaks to where we are at this moment in fantasy football,
where those guys are, you know, considered a lot more valuable.
Speaker 2 (43:51):
The thing I wanted was I didn't want a lot
of like a bench full of dollar players. I actually
don't have a single dollar player. I have a couple
of two dollars players, and those will be the guys
I might cut. But like I thought, it was more
valuable to have a bench with guys like Jaden Blue
and Josh Palmer and AU guys who could actually become
starters for me. I think because it's a fourteen team,
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sixteen roster league, the waivers, you're not going to be
able to find routine starters.
Speaker 1 (44:15):
On the waiver. No, that's the other part of it.
Fourteen teams sort of changes the equation too, because you're
not You're not still gonna love your team. Yeah, at
fourteen teams for anything. Okay, do you have a particular
auction strategy or you a are you know studs and scrubs?
Are you a balanced like, do you have an approach
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you go to.
Speaker 3 (44:37):
I've only done one draft and it's been the work
League draft, and I have been terrible at budgeting, Like
I'm mister blow the bag. Like bo Nicks would have
definitely went for more money, like one hundred percent. I
would have dropped like thirty dollars on bow Nicks, and
I even had read the room that they were cheap.
It's just that I'm so excited to spend the bag
and get my guy at one hundred percent. So I
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do think I need to work on my stre and
be a little bit more better if I can get
into more leagues that are at this format. But I'm
not really a guy that's going into every season with
at least one auction draft.
Speaker 1 (45:09):
So it's funny because you are not so you But
like I always like to nominate players that I don't
necessarily have an interest in, but I know other people
might be in on just to see if I can
dig in somebody's pockets a little bit. Yeah, you would
have done that.
Speaker 2 (45:24):
I would have been like, like I had, I would
be thrown out CMC and Saquon And but it got
to a point where I realized I had the most money,
and I was like, now I'm nominating the guys I
want because I want to get a chance at them
while I have money.
Speaker 1 (45:37):
Also, you can you can bully people.
Speaker 2 (45:38):
Yeah, like that's what I do a Brown and Warren.
And but I'll say this, like my one of my
home leagues is an auction draft. This one I was
being like very cautious not to spend too much money
and stuff. In my home league, it's the exact opposite.
Like I'm going in looking again as many big name
players as I can because I'm gonna find guys off
the waiver wire and stuff. And like in that league,
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like see would go for like eighty dollars out of
a two hundred dollars budget. So people are just blowing
their money fast enough. It very much so depends on
who you're drafting with in the size of your league
and stuff.
Speaker 1 (46:09):
Yeah, for sure, for sure. Yeah, always always interesting to
do an auction. First off, it's interest to an auction.
It's very interesting to do an auction in a room
full of people who do this consistently and who have
their guys.
Speaker 3 (46:22):
And hire a guy that does this. The speed talking,
that's what.
Speaker 1 (46:25):
They called the auctioneer, like an actual auctioneer, a guy
who in his real day to day life does like
cattle auctions and livestock auctions and that sort of thing.
And so like you know when you hear that's really
what he did. That was how he ran the auction
for for this fantasy draft.
Speaker 3 (46:44):
So do you think he's speaking faster than his brain
or is his brain speaking faster.
Speaker 2 (46:49):
He was going at fifty percent speed in the room
and I still couldn't process.
Speaker 1 (46:52):
So we can go faster.
Speaker 2 (46:54):
He told me that he does stuff where like it'll
the bid, it'll go for like two hundred thousand dollars,
something will go and I'm what number do you start with?
And he's like, I'll start low because it's more fun
for me, Like I'll just get to say numbers constantly. Like,
but he loves what he does.
Speaker 1 (47:07):
I guess, hey, he absolutely loves what he does. And
he's great at it. I know that. You know, we
had him having been in that room. He was the
auctioneer for a year, and I think for one year
he was unavailable and this year, like the buzz was, hey,
Evan is back to be our auctioneerybody's like, yeah, Evan's back,
you know. So it was a kind of chance, you know.
I think there's video of him floating around.
Speaker 2 (47:26):
Yeah, we actually played it today too.
Speaker 1 (47:29):
Oh cool.
Speaker 2 (47:29):
So if you if you want to check it out
on Fantasy Live or on the Fantasy Football Expo Twitter.
Speaker 1 (47:33):
I think, yeah, just check it out. It's a lot
of fun, all right. So there you go. That'll do
it for this edition. We'll be back with you tomorrow
because we're three times a week now, So back with
you tomorrow where we will start to look at week
two of the preseason, maybe kind of dive into some storylines,
things we would like to see and all that kind
of stuff as we get ready for another week of
(47:54):
preseason football games. But in the meantime, that'll do it
for this edition of the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. They happy,
save and healthy, do good, and live well, enjoy the day. Everybody.
We will talk to you again tomorrow
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