August 14, 2025 • 53 mins
Marcas Grant, Michael F. Florio, and LaQuan Jones break down the latest fantasy headlines, including Rashee Rice’s looming suspension and why we may be underdrafting Chase Brown. (1:45)
Then, they preview Week 2 of the preseason, revealing the key players, position battles, and storylines that could shake up your fantasy draft board. Don’t miss the insights that could give you the edge! (11:05)
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Wow, everybody, It's Thursday, August fourteenth, twenty twenty five. Welcome
to the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. We're also announcing our
upcoming album, It's Me and Your Man MG. Markus is
grand joined by Michael f. Florio and Lakwan Jones and Laqwan.
(00:22):
I just have to start with the question, why do
you look like you've got in a cartoon brawl?
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (00:33):
I got stopped today by Seth's freaking roll and some
good morning football this morning, very very early in the
morning today. This is how my day is starting right
here with a stop moon from seth freaking' roll.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Stop.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
You did actually put together pretty fire video of Seth
being in studio at GMFB. It's floating around on the
socials right now. But I love the fact that your
k fabe is taking two band aids and putting them
in an X on the side of your like like
you lost video punch out or something.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
You Roan Rens. You got a lot common now see
him punk too.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
And my wife wasn't very happy about how Steph Rown's
actually acquired that belt. So yeah, the wife was a
little so.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Then you so you get stomped out. His punishment that doesn't.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Because I tried to confront him about it and like,
you know, be my wife's honor, you know, and then
ended up with me getting stopped in it.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Get your head dribbled like it said Spaulding on it
great anyway, like Travis Hunter, like Travis Hunter, Wick calib
Johnson in preseason. But that's fair, all right. We have
preseason week two coming up. We're gonna talk about a
handful of the games, not every single one, but we'll
talk about some things, some questions that we feel like
we may have, and maybe some guys that we are
(01:55):
keeping an eye on. But first, a couple of news
headlines to dive into. One in Kansas City just broke
maybe a couple hours before we started doing this show.
Rashi Rice is scheduled to have a discipline hearing on
September thirtieth. Now the date is significant because that is
after week four. We're all expecting at some point that
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Rice is going to be disciplined, that he is going
to be suspended for his traffic shall we say no
nos from a couple of years ago, I mean Florie,
knowing that we're gonna go well into the season before
the hearing even happens. But knowing that there's still potentially
an end season suspension coming, how do you approach Russhi
Rice in drafts?
Speaker 2 (02:41):
He's he's gonna and look, I wanted to be a
Rashi Rice guy this year, but with this, he's gonna
have to start falling. Like right now, his ADP's in
the fourth round. There's no way I'm taking him in
the fourth round. I think he'd have to fall to
like the sixth seventh round, and I'm not expecting that.
So I don't know if I'm gonna have a lot
of Rashi Rice. The issue is the first couple of
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weeks he's gonna be out there, but those are gonna
be his first games back from a knee injury. So
if it takes him a couple of games to look
like Rashie Rice again, once he starts to get back
into the swing of things, he could be taken from you.
This is a lot like the Ezekiel Elliott situation. I
know this at this point, it's like six seven years ago,
but he got suspended for eight games in the middle
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of this season. And that is my fear with Rashid
Rice because we don't even know how long this suspension
is gonna be could be four, could be six, could
be eight. So because of all of that, I'm probably
gonna pass on Rashi Rice, but it makes me want
to get in on Xavier Worthy. Like when I do
my ranking update today, Worthy will probably leap frog Rice
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in my rankings.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
So lakwan two Florio's point, Rice's ADP is going to fall.
We're not really sure how far it's gonna fall, how
much people are going to back off of him. So hypothetically,
is there a round he could fall two that would
make him attractive to you?
Speaker 3 (04:03):
Probably that sixth seventh round, Like this is where the
Jacobe myersers are living in the in the draft, and
like there's the question marks with some of the players
that are unproven, some rookies are down there. So I
do want to acquire him because all I know in
the back end of the season, I want him on
my team. Like when it starts to get towards the
Fantasy playoffs, I want to be able to say I
have Rice coming off the bench to give me a
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little bit more reinforcements going into the playoffs, and look,
he'll come back, like I would say after the eight
game suspension. I think he gets the max because if
we remember a pre draft, like there was already an incident,
you know, like there was already question marks about him,
So like this isn't less something that you know the
NFL is going to take lightly. So I do think
he gets that eight game max, and then he will
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returned back in Week thirteen against Dallas, which I think
it's a favorable matchup. And I do think that the
injury as well. Coming into this season, like the first
four games like those are up and down games, man,
like you got one in Brazil and like it's that's
a weird game. And he's still hasn't been really proven
to be like back back on like game speed on
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the field.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
So my immediate concerns are, I mean, hopefully ideally he
has the hearing on September thirtieth, and that the league
makes a decision shortly thereafter, right, that they don't drag
this out for another week or so, because then you're
talking about after week five, then you're talking about serving
a suspension. The other big problem is that few, if
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any fantasy leagues have a suspension slot. Right, you got
an ir slot where a guy is hurt and uninjured reserve.
You could put a guy there and you know, go
and get somebody else off the waiver wire and it
doesn't count against your roster spots. If Rashi Rice is
suspended and you've drafted him, you're just holding a spot
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for him for however many weeks. And yeah, if everything
is great, you know, if nobody gets hurt, everybody's playing well,
it's not a big deal to just sit there and
sort of way on him to get back to you.
We know that ain't life, right. We know that unfortunately,
somebody's gonna get hurt. Somebody is just not going to
pan out the way you thought in the preseason. You're
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going to have to make waiver wire moves. And that's
when after holding on to Rice for three weeks, four weeks,
five weeks, then you really are stuck trying to make
a decision of can I afford to wait on him, uh,
you know, or do I have to sort of cut
bait And then you know, fear that somebody else in
your league scoops him up. He comes back and turned
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out to be Throshet Rice. We thought he could be.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
A big difference real quick. Is to your point, Margus,
like buys are weeks five through fourteen. When a player
suspended to start the year, you can you can navigate
those early weeks because there's no buys, but those bench
spots are going to be real valuable when those buys
start hitting all season long.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
Whoever drafted Rice in the leagues that I am, I'm like,
oh my god, you should just drop him, man.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Just drop zombie on your bench. Trade dirty, try to
trade for him.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
Charity this year. I'm being so dirty this year in
all my leagues. So league may t watch out because I.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Know because inevitably there's gonna be somebody who's sitting there
at like three and four trying to fight and make
the playoffs, and maybe they got Rashi Rice on their bench.
And that's when you can be like, hey, you know,
I you help me, you scratch my back, I'll scratch
yours like you know, I'll trade. I'll trade you tomorrow
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if you can get me. Rashi Rice helped me down
the playoffs stretch. So yeah, for sure, I'm in Cincinnati
Bengals offensive coordinator saying Chase Brown is a top ten
running back in the NFL. In fantasy circles, Chase Brown
as going as the RB twelve. So I ask you,
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Lakwan Jones, are we undervaluing Chase Brown based on the
opinion of Cincinnati Bengals offensive coordinator Damn Pitcher.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
I think we are.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
And it's not like we are like doing it on
purpose though, because there's some running backs ahead of him
that we could say our top ten running backs like
a Chan, Josh Jacobs, Kenneth Walker, and like I do
think when it comes to rankings, like I looked at
my rankings when I saw this, I'm like, Wow, he
is at my RB eleven, So I think I do
need to move him up because we're looking at a
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guy that was on pace from week nine and on
thirteen hundred yards. If he stayed with that same energy,
with that same usage, and like from week nine and on,
he was the RB four, averaging twenty Fantasy points per game.
So how I'm looking at this is like, hey, this
is the same situation. I mean, Taj Brooks does look decent,
but he ain't the real threat here where Chase Brown
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can get this max workload and this usage to where
he can crack that top ten, top five conversation.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Florida, I know you talked up Chase Brown on Fantasy
Live on Thursday. I know you like him. Are you
willing to put him in your Do you have him
in your top ten? If not, are you willing to
put him in your top ten?
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Yeah, he's in my top ten. He's my RB nine
as of right now, and I've been considering pushing him up.
The names just ahead of him are like cmc Ashton
Gent and Bucky Irving. I don't know if I'll rank
him ahead of those guys, but at cost, I like
him the most of that bunch. And to Laquan's point,
like it took him like about a month to take
over last year, but from what he did, he was
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on pace to score the fifth most, like his full
season pace would have made him the RB five. So yeah,
I think you can make him a top ten running
back and there's still room for him to grow.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
I feel like the longer the Trey Hendrickson situation goes on,
the more the Bengals offensive players are rising in ADP. Yes, right,
I mean, because I think even with Hendrickson, the Bengals
defense isn't going to be great, but at least when
he's there, no, he's gonna get out of the quarterback.
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He's gonna get pressures, he's gonna get sacks, and maybe
that helps out a little bit. If you don't have
hendrickson there, you're forcing the issue with the line of scrimmage.
This defense is gonna get shredded. And I think that's
the reason, like Chase Brown is rising. I mean, Jamar
Chase is already the one oh one like that. He
can't get me higher than that. But to Higgins, I
feel like his ADP is coming up. I just feel
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like everybody's just like, you know what.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
It go to Key looked like Tom Brady and was like,
you know what, Yeah, they're going to have to score.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
Yeah, definitely, And it doesn't help, you know, with Shamir
Stewart uh tackling or making contact with Burrows. So there
was a whole scrap about that. Did you guys see that.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
I didn't see any I haven't seen any video, but
I have read stories. Achise, Yeah, no, I man, no,
you do not do not touch the franchise. You do
not do that. So hopefully hopefully Stewart learned his lesson
over that one. Start diving into some of these Week
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two of the preseason previews. Now look understanding it's week
two of the preseason. A lot of teams will play
their starters. We're not gonna see guys a whole long time.
There's not a ton we can necessarily glean from it,
but we are using data points, right It's another data point.
It's another piece of information we can sort of use
to make our decisions going forward as we get further
into draft season. Sartis and Seahawks. That game you can
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see on NFL Network Friday at seven pm Eastern. Lakwanum, Matthew,
because I know how you feel about the Seahawks, and
you know how they have your favoritiest wide receiver of
all time Cooper Cup. Now in so a lot of
drum beats out of Seattle that Zach Charboney could end
upth passing Kenneth Walker for that starting job. I mean,
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do you could you imagine that happening? Should it happen?
And are you maybe taking a discount on sharbon Ay
right now?
Speaker 3 (11:58):
I don't think he could take over because when Kenneth
Walker is healthy, charbon is on sideline, like we know,
kW can get really really busy with the opportunity, and
I think I look at him as a high end
like handcuff, like if I draft Kenneth Walker knowing his
injury history, where Zach Charboney is going in drafts, that's
a solid handcuff like area where in that range you're
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looking at the Jaden blues of the world, like the
wood he marks his ADP now rising too, So like
I'd rather Zach Charbonnay when I know if Kenneth Walker
goes down, he'll be the guy that can have that
RB one ceiling. So I do think that this is
Kenneth Walker's backfield, his own backfield, and if we look
at clink QBX offense with the Saints, it wasn't really
like a one to two punch between Jamal Williams and
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ak Over there. So I do feel like this is
just his backfield until it's not. So Zach Charmony is
just gonna have to wait for his opportunity.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
How about you, Floria, are you a sipping Charbonay this year?
Speaker 2 (12:52):
I agree with LQ. I think he's a fantastic handcuff,
but I think it takes an injury or something like that.
Kenneth Walker in announced zone run deep offense is something
I'm pretty excited about. And he's one of those running
backs in like the fifth sixth round that I like
to go after. Is not my favorite, but he is
one that I like to go after. But I do agree, Like,
if you have Kenneth Walker, I think you need to
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handcuff him with Sharbenney.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Yeah, I'm just I'm looking here right now, zach Scharbonay
going as the RB thirty nine, So.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
Like that's fair baby.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
That feels like early for a handcuff because he's going
ahead of guys like Najie Harris, Tank Bigsby, Rashad White,
Eye on Blue. You know, just I get the idea.
If you have Kay Walker, you probably do want to
handcuff him. It feels that feels like people are drafting
Sharbenay expecting him to have some standalone value.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
But remember we were drafting Cream Hunting like that too,
Like I do look at that as a situation. Now,
I don't think they're going to be on the field
as much as cream Hunt Chubb, but who knows, Clint
Kilbick might get creative, you know.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
Yeah, except cream Hunt is like eleventy years old when
we did that, Like we should have known better.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
But Kareem Hunt actually was good in the first year
in twenty seventeen with Chemist to Fancy, So I'm not
gonna knock them for that year, all.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
Right, that's fair. Dolphins at Lions. I put this in
here mostly because I kept seeing the headlines about the Dolphins,
about Tua talking about how they were having such a
tough day and how the joint practices against the Lions
were not really going well for them. And we've talked
on this show about the Dolphins offense that really outside
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of Devon ah Chan, it seems like a lot of us,
certainly us on this show, and I think a lot
of people across the fantasy space are kind of cool,
like not cool in a good way. They're cool on
the Dolphins parentheses derogatory just because you know, the vibes
seem bad. So I mean, after this week and Tua
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saying things haven't been great, Floria, how much are you
on red alert with this Dolphins offense.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
I've been saying this a lot this summer. It is
Devon a Chen or bust for me, because with Chen
we have seen that he can win as an explosive runner.
He averaged almost eight yards per carry as a rookie.
He had the most receiving Fantasy points of any running
back last year, so he could win in a number
of different ways. And last year I believe it was intentional.
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The Dolphins completely abandoned the deep ball. They had Tua
getting the ball out of his hands in under two
point four seconds. Everything was just take your two steps
and just like, well it would be his left hand,
but just just get rid of it right like get
it to h get it to John new Smith. And
that's what led to Tyreek and Jalen Waddle being big
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disappointments for Fantasy. I don't think those guys suddenly lost
all of their capabilities. I think they are still a
very talented duo, even though I worry if Tyreek is
starting to lose a step, but it doesn't matter if
they're not throwing the ball deep. I don't think these
guys are going to live up to expectation. I want
no parts of Tua, but I've been fading Tyreek and
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Waddle and just going after a h hen but.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
I know someone on this show feels a little different.
Oh my god, listen. I've been buying tickets to the
circus and as the show goes on, it gets a
little bit scarier soon as we get closer to the
third act into week one, I have a lot of
Tyrek kill and I'm just hoping and praying that I
got him add the value in that third round on
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that turn and a lot of my drafts. But I
do feel like, you know, it's getting a little scary
over there, because it looks like things are falling apart
before we can even get to that point, Like the
defense is getting cooked all through practice. I've seen legit
probably like seventeen a mom Ron Saint Brown clips just
lossing and doing the most craziest circus catches on all
these dolphins secondary. And the crazy thing is you got
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Isaac Tesla out there doing crazy out of the body
like experience catches, Like I'm.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Like, how did he even do that?
Speaker 3 (16:57):
Like how's he? But it's like the dolphin and secondary
is a mess. The offense has its own circus going on.
Like it's getting scary over there in Miami. So lessen
the shares.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
He looked, he looked like he went through it after
that practice yesterday, like he was crass, disheveled, and like, yoa,
I feel bad for the guy. Man.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
I once working with a guy who, when he started
he started his job, would show up to work every
day dressed very nicely, like khaki's collared shirt. Everything was
pressed and whatever. He was in a very stressful position.
And after about nine months he stopped dressing like that,
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and he started he started looking like a freshman on
his way to like an eight am science class. It
was like hair not combed, it was sweats in a
puffy coat. I'm like, you've gone through it, dude. That's
kind of what Mike McDaniel is right now, right like
he has gone through it in the last few years,
I know to The prevailing opinion is that he could
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be the first coach fired this year, especially if the
Dolphins get off to a bad start. Hope not Yeah, hell,
I mean he's fun right, I mean, he's got great quotes.
He's very funny. I mean, he was supposed to be
sort of to the I mean, I mean he could.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
I usually.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
I mean some of these guys are not necessarily cut
out to be head coaches, but they're good coordinators. I
mean maybe McDaniel is one of those guys. I mean,
we never really know.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
I do feel bad though, because like they could have
won the division a couple of years ago if they
were in any division not with Josh Allen.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
You know, also if they were of course also if
they were in a division that where things didn't get cold,
right like if they yeah, if they GE's somehow. I
think it's somehow, you know, play games where it's not
below like sixty degrees, then they're fine.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
Like that was still unfair.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
That was that was kind of wrong. That was kind
of for sure. All right, we'll take a break, come back.
We got a few more games to previews. We get
through Week two of the preseason. That's coming up here
on the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. Diving into some of
the Week two preseason games here on the show, Packers
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at Colts. Anthony Richardson did not last long in the
first game, took a wicked sack and next thing, you know,
his pinky fingers making an unscheduled right turn. The talk
is that Daniel Jones is going to get the start,
but there is some hope maybe Richardson will be okay,
maybe he can get out there. We will see. But Foy,
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I mean, I'm gonna ask you this because you are
I think of the three of us, the one who
still is most on board. I don't think we've all
jumped off, but I think you are more on board
than the rest of us. Like Lawan and I have
like one foot in the lifeboats. You're still hanging out
on the deck, you know, sipping a frosty drink. We're
waving you on, like, no, man, it's time to go.
Man here exactly, just standing on it as it's going
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under going down. But I'll ask you, Florio, is this
potentially Anthony Richardson's last chance to win the Week one
starting job.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
I'm gonna tell you right now. I don't like the
way this question is worded at all. Why is it
his last show?
Speaker 1 (20:28):
Because none of these dudes are going to play in
week three of the preseason, right.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
Yeah, Yes, the dress rehearsal her reports he was ahead
going into Week one. I know his pinky was going
like this way and that that's kind of on him.
He didn't see the defender. I know, like everyone broke
down the video and was like, he's supposed to look
that way, throw that way. I get it, I get it.
He's got work to do. The colts know he has
work to do, and he needs the reps, and I look,
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I know you can't just throw away seasons in the NFL,
but when you take Anthony Richardson, you're taking him expecting
to sacrifice a season or two for his development because
where he can get to is ultimately so great. Like
I think a big mistake that a lot of teams
make nowadays is they give up on these cutes. Like
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if the Colts give up on him, I think there's
thirty maybe not thirty one because some teams have a
franchise guy, but there's like twenty other teams knocking on
their door being like, we'll take the shot on Anthony
Richardson because his upside is so high if you could
develop him. So I continue to say it, like, I
think he should be the week one starter, And the
reports were that he had shown improvement in camp with
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his touch and his play in the pocket and stuff.
So I think it's just a lot easier to go
from Richardson to Daniel Jones and you finally admit, okay,
this isn't working. But if you go to Daniel Jones
and you get off to a slow start, it's a
lot like what happened with Flacco last year. Then you
got of like got a tab between your legs. Go
back to Richardson, and it's not really showing confidence in him.
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So I continue to think that he will be the
weak one starter. But I will I will be very
sad if I'm wrong, And I'll give you guys all
the credit, because especially you, Lacan, I know you've been
on Daniel Jones higher than really anyone.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
Yeah, I know you love you love Daniel. Is this
a Jones thing? You got to stand up for the Joneses.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
It's a Jersey. Jones is going down with the ship.
Riol is going down with the ship.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
Bro.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
I cannot get behind that. I just can't. It's gonna
be Daniel Jones man. That has to be at this
point because he cannot stay healthy. If he gets injured
in this game, just sign it off, pack it up, chief,
go ahead and clock out like it's it's going to
be a rap, Like this is his last chance to
be real, Like this is the last chance in a
preseason game in week two for Anthony Richson to step
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up and show up and show out. We've been waiting
for this. Just put something out there that we could
just be cool, calm and collected going into Week one
having a healthy Daniel Jones and Anthony Richardson debate. Okay,
that's all I got.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
What's it say though? If a guy who can't stay
held was reportedly beating the other guy, you know, like,
imagine if he gets the rest, he's a liability out
there if he can't protect hisself.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
Like, man, that hit was brutal, Like he came up
throwing up gang if he gets hurt.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
Like but but if he gets hurt, you're exactly where
you already would be if you start Daniel Jones.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
I look, I'm I'm not gonna sit here and pretend
that like this is like a high level court. Part
of the reason it is an interesting quarterback competition is
because there's two guys who are sort of at the
same level. One we've seen. I think we've seen the
best of Daniel Jones, right that season. He had a
couple of years ago that got him paid. We've seen
the best of Daniel Jones. We still believe in Anthony
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Richardson's potential, just he hasn't really come close to showing it.
I mean, this is like the race to see who's
the fastest turtle, right, Like you might be the fastest turtle.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
But you're still not Turtles are fast.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
Hey, it's Thursday night. The turtle races at Brendan's tonight.
Everybody's meat down there. Let's go, let's go check out.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
The thing about real quick. Like Daniel Jones' best season
was thirty two hundred yards and fifteen touchdowns, Like this
says not great.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
He's shown us something that Anthony Richardson has not shown
us yet.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
Upside.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
We saw the upside in his rushing upside there availability
the US seasons was the top twelve quarterback, top ten.
Anthony Richardson upside was way higher and feel like if
he could stay on the field.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
The Daniel Jones top twelve fantasies. There are some seasons
that are just outliers where we'll look back here like this,
you know the jamis thirty for thirty season, right, like
that's an outlier. The fact that he was still a
top five quarterback or whatever it was like that that
that radicalized me against current quarterback scoring, like that shouldn't happened.
There was the year I'd have to look it up.
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There was the year where Jason Witten was like a
top ten tight end when all he did was catch
the ball and fall down like that's it. Like there
are just those seasons where like we looked back and like, okay,
yeah you finished in the top ten or top twelve,
but like did you really though? Did you really?
Speaker 3 (25:07):
We keep saying that for Anthony Richardson, but that has
yet to happen, is my point though, Like the same
upside that we're looking for for Anthony Richardson, Daniel Jones
has done that. He's done it for us already, Like
we know what he is capable of, and he's in
a situation where his legs are his weapons. And I
think that deep ball only helps Michael Pittman, it only
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helps A. D Mitchell, only helps Alex Pearce, it only
helps Shosh Downs as well.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
He doesn't have a deep ball.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
Yeah, man, Daniel Jones has a upside deep ball. There
was an opportunity in twenty twenty two.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
Not better than Anthony Richardson.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
You keep saying the word no, No, I don't think that
means I think I think that word means what you
think it means, Like there's no, I don't think there's
a floor play. In my opinion, Yeah, he's the floor play.
He's not an upside play. There's no upside there, there is.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
There is no What does outside of accuracy, what does
Daniel Jones do better than Anthony Richardson on the football field.
He doesn't have a stronger arms.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
But again, availability and upside are two very different things.
And and right now and that's fine, but don't confuse
that with upside. Anthony Richardson has upside. Daniel Jones has
perfect attendance.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
Michael Pittman or Tyler Warren? Manager, when do you want
Daniel Jones as your starter? Should be the conversation. It's
not about the actual quarterback competition. Who do we want
Tyler Warren? Who do we want Josh Allas or Michael
Pittman to score us fantasy points on Sunday?
Speaker 1 (26:46):
Don't just.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
Floating. It's not sinking.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
His boat may be all banged up, you know what,
band aids like holding it up, the bloating the water.
But at the same time, there is opportunity there for benefit,
like for us as managers for the wide receivers.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
Daniel Jones is the architect of the Wandell Robinson like
a million targets for five hundred yards season is a guy.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
That's why, LaQuan, that's not the flex you think it is.
I really didn't think we're gonna have this line of
a conversation about the Colts quarterback situation. And I'm sorry
that I walked this down that path. That's my fault.
I'm sorry. I may be about to do it again.
I have no idea where this conversation is gonna go,
but I'm thinking out there, uh, Patriots at the Vikings
(27:37):
a lot of hype around JJ McCarthy, and look, I
I was sort of pleased to see what he did
last week. Not necessarily because I'm in on drafting JJ
McCarthy because I think he's gonna be meh in year
one and you'll just be frustrated, But I think what
it means potentially for the guys around him. Uh, Lakwan
refreshed my memory. You're in on JJ McCarthy. Is there
(27:57):
anything else you need to see from him this week?
Speaker 3 (28:01):
Not really like I feel like we need to worry
about his health because like it's getting to this point
now where injuries are starting to build up, and you know,
our guys are out there, they're doing all these amazing,
you know things on the practice fields like Treveon Henderson
like every beat reporter every ten seconds, and even with
JJ McCarthy, you know, going against Brian Flores is like
chaotic defense. So it's like all these things are starting
(28:23):
to build up where I just, you know, build this
chemistry in front of us in pre season, but with
Jefferson banged up right now, we're not going to be
able to see that, So it's not much I want
to see right now. Further from JJ McCarthy.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
Are you willing Florio to take JJ McCarthy, like in
a redraft like two quarterback leagues? Yeah, I'm sure, Like
would you take if you decide to take two quarterbacks,
would you draft JJ.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
McCarthy, Yeah, I think he brings enough upside, Like after
seeing Sam Darnold finish as a QB one in this system,
it's not about me loving JJ, right, it's about me
loving koc and and the weapons in this system. But uh,
it would have to be a specific build, right, Like
I don't know if i'd want to pair him, would
say like a justin fields because that doesn't really feel
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like there's enough floor there. But like say, if my
QB one was someone that I felt good about the floor.
Then I'm throwing an upside dart on JJ McCarty.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
The word of the day is upside.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
That's a good movie with Kevin Hart.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
I had no idea, trust I trust I never seen it.
I just had to take your word for it. Uh,
Chargers at Rams, Chargers at Rams. I'm I'm asking you this, Lakwan,
because this feels this feels like something you'd be into,
not about the Rams. Should we be paying attentions to
(29:52):
Arondez gadst in the se because this feels like and
by way, our producer Gavin who's a big Chargers fans,
he's paying Atten to know what you're about to say.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
Yes, the beaver borters love him, and you see on
Twitter the fantasy streets his name pops up every now
and again making big plays. And then I'm in on
him too. I think that with Will Ditsley there, Tyler Conklin, like,
we know who these guys are. But I think some
folks you know, might want to add him to the
watch list like in re draft leagues. I don't think
he's going to make like a media impact, but gradually
(30:24):
as the season goes on, you might see him make
more flashes, get more opportunity on the field. So that's
just how I'm looking at him right now this year.
But I am in dynasty heavily invested because like he
was going in the fourth round and most of these drafts,
and I think that's a great value for the upside
that he's in an offense where a tight end can
be fantasy relevant.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
All right, I don't I mean that all sounds kind
of right, like you're just you're you're drafting and stashing
and seeing what comes about. I mean, I think that's
really all it is with Gadstan Maybe the more pressing
issue u Florio. People love a mari and Hampton. I've
said this whole time that I'm just not I'm not
in on him at ADP because I kept saying, Naji
(31:07):
Harris still walks the earth.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
Now.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
I know, obviously he had the fourth of July incident.
He's putting that snapchat videos where maybe one eye is
squinting in clothes, maybe the sun is in his eyes,
or maybe he's still yeah, on a pirate track. I
don't know.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
Me and him are going down with that shit together.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
Yes, So I've been saying, I was like, look, Naji
Harris is going to come back, He's going to play,
He's going to take opportunities away from Omari and Hampton,
and everybody's getting feel just unfulfilled. Greg Roman seemed to
verify that. He seemed to validate that when he said
there's gonna be a rotation no matter what in fact
he said the days he said that the one running
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back team or one running back offense is becoming like
a prehistoric creature. Knowing that, are you still okay with
Amar and Hampton in the fourth round?
Speaker 2 (32:00):
Yeah, I'm actually coming around to Hampton because my fear
was Naji Harris, just like you and I thought early
in the year Naji would have a big role and
as the season went on he would Hampton and his
talent would win out over time. But if Nase's not
ready to start the year, that gives Hampton a runway
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to just kind of become the firm RB one here. Now.
I do think there will be a rotation because every
team uses some combination of that nowadays. But if Harris
isn't ready for week one, the backup running backs are
who's who will People we thought would be good in
fantasy from the past, like Kamani Videll, Hassan Hoskins, stuff
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like that. Like, none of those guys are eating into
the workload enough to ding Hampton, so getting him as
an RB two I love Rockett Sanders or Anderson, but
if he goes a little after him, I think that's
a perfect value.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
All right, RB three, Jones, make your case for Rocket Sanders. Listen,
that is cool.
Speaker 3 (33:08):
I think the AP is going to skyrocket after this
next preseason game. But I do think that, you know,
I'm taking the words, yeah boom, yeah, you got that.
I'm taking Greg Rouman's words because again, I do think
like he wants to keep his young running backs motivated
right now. So it's still camp, it's still preseason, so
he doesn't want to say, yeah, the RB one job
or the RB two job is locked up one hundred percent.
(33:30):
But I do think there is some truth to that
because this offense has shown this last year. I mean
signing JK. Dobbins, signing Gus Edwards. So now they draftomre
in Hampton, they get their cells and naj hairs. So
the plan for the one two punch was already there existing,
So I do think like him getting this ADP where
he's going in the fourth round is kind of nasty.
(33:50):
And that's why I'm smiling and grinning when I'm able
to get a tray Von Henderson around later, or even
a R. J. Harvey, who I think is going to
overleave Hampton as well. So I do think folks need
to just chill out by streets are a little too
crazy right now.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
Yeah, I just I guess. Mostly I think for me
it's because that's been Hampton's a d P the whole
time pretty much. It feels like it hasn't really shifted
a whole lot, like everybody just decided yep, O'marion Hampton
in the fourth round. That's just that's just what we're
doing this summer. So I don't know.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
Also, Roy Roggy Ishmael is the only rocket I recognize.
Just put that.
Speaker 3 (34:28):
I don't know who that is.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
Go look him up, man.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
Oh no, no, no wait, I thought I thought you
were going a different rocket there.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
Oh yeah, rocket raccoon.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
No.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
Just go look up Roggy Ishmael highlight.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
And you were using it and I would know the name.
Check out.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
He was what we want a heisman trophy, I think
at Notre Dame he was amazing. He was a great
wide receiver, putt returner.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
I only know Mantai and Kyron and Brady Quinn that
went to Notre Dame. I'm sorry, that's just how the
memory bank is just there with those three.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
All Right, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna take a break,
and I'm gonna I'm gonna wrestle with my own mortality.
We're gonna come back. We're talking about a few more
preseason games, and then I'm gonna go burn my birth certificates.
Nobody knows how old I am. Stick around for more
the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. I spent the break watching
brocket Ishmael highlights just to make me feel better about
(35:27):
my I don't even like Notre Dame football, and you
got me defending a Notre Dame football. My USC bona
fides are in trouble. Now. They're gonna make me hand
in my Trojan football card. This is a shame anyway.
Jetson Giants Battle of the Meadowlands NFL Networking see that
game on Saturday at four pm Eastern time. LaQuan should
Jackson dark get a real shot to be the QB
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one for the Giants.
Speaker 3 (35:52):
No because I want It'll sound commident about that. I
do think like in preseason we got a little taste
of what he could bring to the table. Like I'm cool, like,
all right, let me see preseason, Like I'll come around
to it. But I kind of want Russell Wilson to
cook because like we know, when the kitchen clothes and
the recipe starts tasting a little weird. But I do
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feel like Russell Wilson get me those high spike weeks
with Milik Neighbors on that deep ball. I do think
I want that because, like I said, I'm willing to
reach on Milak Neighbors. If I'm at the one oh five,
I'm ready to take them off the field board. If
CD's gone, you know, obviously a Bajon's gone, and I'm
just like all in on Malik Neighbors in this Russell
Wilson connection just to start the season.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
Are we sure Florio that the Russ deep ball, that
the moon ball is still there? Because I'm looking. I'm
looking at his game logs from last year and starting
in Week fourteen, these were his yards per attempt six
point one five point eight, six point six, five point five,
four point eight That that doesn't sound very moonballish to me, Like,
(36:57):
are we sure that still exists?
Speaker 2 (36:58):
For us? It might not be what it once was,
but it's otherworldly compared to what the Giants quarterbacks were
last year. Like I put out an article on nfl
dot com top ten league winners, and Elik Neighbors is
number one, and the reason is largely because of the
deep ball. Because last year Russ had a forty six
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percent success rate on the deep ball might not be
what it was in his prime. Giants quarterbacks as a
whole had a twenty percent success rate. The rating is
more than double. The completion percentage more than double. The
EPA is like quadruple, Like it's off the charts. How
much better Russ is than everyone that was throwing the
deep ball last year? And the thing I like about
(37:41):
this situation is Jackson Dart has a strong arm as well.
Jameis Winston we know is the king maker, So even
if something happened to Russ, there's options there that should
only help. I'm yeah, I absolutely love Thelak Neighbors, and yeah,
I'm all in. I do think darts like I would
love to see it be a competition, but I think
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we were actual yesterday on Fantasy Live. Which Giants quarterback
we think scores the most points this year? And I
think it's Russ because their defense and Elik neighbors will
make him look good enough where a Dable and the
coaching staff want to just keep brought in with with
uh Russ.
Speaker 1 (38:17):
Yeah, I mean, I I keep thinking at some point
they're gonna start Jackson Dart because and maybe maybe I'm
just underestimating how good the defense is or how much
the defense I should say, keep them in games. I
know they're good. I'm underestimating maybe how much the defense
will keep them in games because their schedule is brutal
(38:38):
and there's a very good chance they start Zher to
four even if Russ is you know, even if US
isn't a dumpster fire, right, Russ can be just fine.
He can be perfectly Russ, and it could still be
oh and four when you look at that. Yeah, And
so like I'm just wondering, like do they press on
because starting on four is always bad. Starting oh and
four in the nfcast where you gotta deal with the
(39:00):
Eagles and the Commanders is going to be hellish. So like,
at what point do they throw up the white flag
and start Jackson Dart and I just you know, so
I think that's very much in play, And I'm like, so,
then part of me is wondering, like, well, why don't
you just bite the bullet and just start him from
the beginning and just see what you got.
Speaker 2 (39:19):
Because they think they can make the playoffs with Russ,
I'd imagine.
Speaker 3 (39:23):
But the Giants aren't gonna be good though, we know
that right like the.
Speaker 1 (39:27):
Christ the Giants can go to a playoff game. They
can buy a ticket like the rest of us. You know,
it's throwing him in when their bye week is fourteen,
Like that's when you're gonna throw the scenes is already
washed it over.
Speaker 2 (39:39):
Like no, I think that's why they they can move
before that.
Speaker 1 (39:43):
So wait, look are you are you advocating this? Look on,
are you advocating that they start Jackson Dart?
Speaker 2 (39:49):
No?
Speaker 3 (39:49):
No, what I'm saying is they start him after week fourteen.
But again, that's fantasy playoffs. Like I'm good, I kind
of don't want that change. Let let Dark develop, like
he doesn't need to start year one, like, let these
quarterbacks develop in three years like how they used to.
Like I do think they're sitting in a good spot
with a quarterback room that has Jameis Winston Russell Wilson.
So I'd rather go from Russell Wilson to Jameis Winston
(40:12):
than Jackson Dark. Like that's my order in fantasy and
my priorities of how many shares I have league neighbors,
Like we need those two Winston to cook together. Yeah,
that is the dreams that you don't need to see
Dark this year, Like I don't.
Speaker 2 (40:28):
I think if the Giants fall out of it or
they start falling behind and they make them move to Dark.
Speaker 1 (40:33):
Uh. Interesting point two though there is there is the
issue of Brian Babel try to maintain employment as an
NFL head.
Speaker 3 (40:41):
Coach, So Dark as a test piece so you can know.
Speaker 1 (40:45):
I honestly, I think if you're trying to hold onto
your job, you probably are starting RUSS and then going
to jamis like you're not You're not a coach who's
on the hot seat and you're gonna throw a rookie
in there and just see what happens. Like that's not
gonna work.
Speaker 2 (40:58):
I think it would have to be an early he
sees an injury for RUSS for us to get jamis
like I think if they make a change at starting quarterback,
it's them waving the white flag and going.
Speaker 1 (41:07):
To the kid who's more likely to start. Who's Who's
who's more likely to start games this year, Jameis Winston
or Kenny Pickett.
Speaker 2 (41:19):
Kenny Pickett in MI, guys, it's amazing.
Speaker 1 (41:26):
I didn't really think about that.
Speaker 3 (41:28):
I want to say, Kenny Kenny Pickett.
Speaker 1 (41:31):
I asked that because I was having a conversation with
somebody yesterday and we started talking about the Browns quarterback situation,
and we both sort of landed on the fact that
everybody's talking about either Joe Flacco, like, hey, Flacco is
probably gonna win the job, he'll be the starting quarterback,
or you talk about the rookies right like, when do
they get Dylan Gabriel a shot? How much of a
shot that should were saying. Nobody's mentioning Kenny Pickett, Like
(41:53):
Kenny Pickett is just there, right.
Speaker 3 (41:55):
And they traded for him.
Speaker 1 (42:00):
He's very much just a seat warmer right now. Like
nobody like the conversations, either the old guy or the
young guys. Nobody's talking about the guy in the middle
at this point.
Speaker 3 (42:08):
Crazy, Yeah, he.
Speaker 1 (42:14):
Seems like I've never met him. He seems like, I'm
sure he's a perfectly fine gentleman. I have no affinity with.
Speaker 3 (42:20):
If you're from New Jersey, I protect you just put
it like that. That's just what it comes down.
Speaker 1 (42:24):
To, Okay.
Speaker 2 (42:26):
I was trying to think someone terrible from Jersey.
Speaker 1 (42:31):
There's gotta be like a there's gotta be like a
mafia don or something like that. Yeah, yeah, right, exactly
in my vision. I don't headline Lakwan Jones supports the
Mafia Cardinals at Broncos again NFL Network. That game Saturday,
nine thirty Eastern time, l Q, you are the biggest R. J.
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Harvey stand on this show. I have repeatedly said that
Sean Payton is a lying liar who lies and he's
gonna get JK. Dobbins in there more than you think.
Harvey had some good plays last week. I'm the knock
on him though, is that he was trying to bounce
everything outside. Does that bother you? Do you need to
see him run between the tackles more? Are you cool
with him being him?
Speaker 3 (43:13):
I do want him to run in between the tackles
to show that he can do it, like just to
put the haters to bed because him bouncing outside doesn't
bother me. And again, his coach, he even spoke on
it. It doesn't bother him because he's beating those guys nine
times out of ten going up the field. So I
do think that, you know, RJ. Harvey needs to show
a little bit more in between the tackles, just to
showcase him as fully as like he could be in
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every down back. He may not be in every down
back in this system, but it's fine. Sean Payton's on
the sticks and he knows how to utilize a one
to two punch. We've seen him be very, very very
successful with this in New Orleans. So I'm not worried
about RJ. Harvey, not a bit. Give them all, give
me the shares. I'm good, Floria.
Speaker 1 (43:53):
I know you said you've come around on Amar and Hampton.
Where are you on Harvey?
Speaker 2 (43:57):
I really like RJ. Harvey. I won't say I'm l
Q levels of like, but I loved him as a
prospect in the new year. I don't need to see
him run between the tackles. I need him to catch
passes and to run out wide and get those big
chunk plays. And I think Peyton is the like he
fell to the perfect landing spot. I know JK. Dobbins
(44:19):
puts a little bit of a cap there because I
do think he'll be the goal line runner. But he
Harvey could have like a Camara light type season that
that he had under Payton for years.
Speaker 1 (44:30):
Yeah, that's that's a that's a Camara light. Yeah. I
think I think that's probably the best thing. I wouldn't
call it.
Speaker 2 (44:36):
Yeah, we got de Bo light.
Speaker 1 (44:37):
Yeah, and who's de Bo? Who's Debolan Debo? Yeah, but
like that's been generally unsatisfying, like it's been.
Speaker 3 (44:46):
Yeah, yeah, he has been that way too, but Dibo's
been unsatisfying as well, so it kind of plays it.
Speaker 1 (44:54):
Yeah. Yeah, I just I keep thinking everybody really is
holding onto that twenty twenty one Deebo seat and like
wanting it to I'm I'm taking I'm I'm assuming it's not.
Speaker 2 (45:09):
Choosing.
Speaker 1 (45:10):
I'm choosing to believe that he was actually making a
football point here and not just you know, come on there.
But but for the record, I might have I might
have I might have made a mention of you on
Fantasy Live when I talked about Kyron Williams, So you know, whatever,
hold up now six pm Eastern, three o'clock Pacific in
(45:31):
IF on network, shout out Bill's at Bears Floria. I
know you will be. I'm, like I say, watching intently,
but I'm sure you will definitely check in and see
how things are going. Ben Johnson has said the starters
will play maybe a fairly good amount in this one.
The reports out of Bears camp have sort of been
up and down. You know. There have been things where
(45:55):
it looked times where it looks good, there have been
times where everybody has sort of struggled. Ben Johnson is
trying to be creative talking about putting DJ Moore in
the backfield every once in a while. What do you
want to see or how much do you want to
see from Caleb and the starters this weekend?
Speaker 2 (46:10):
I want to see just enough, you know, like like
a player too where you're like okay, Like this Bears
offense looks like they're cooking with fire, and I don't
want to see anything more than that because I'm trying
to draft a lot of Bears this summer, and if
they go out and fall out, every player's ADP is
gonna rise, and I don't want that. I'm especially with
the Bears, though, I'm more interested in usage than results,
(46:33):
Like I want to see where Dj Moore is lining up.
I want to see where Roman Dunes is lining up.
Is Luther Birden playing the slot? Is DeAndre Swift getting
the three downs opportunity? You don't have to get him
all the touches, just to see out there standing next
to Caleb for three downs. And that's what I care about.
So I hope they're not very productive, but I hope
it is like the alignment and the usage that we're
hopeful to see.
Speaker 1 (46:54):
Where are you on the Bears offense? Lakwan like? How
many guys are you targeting? Where are you Tark Like,
how are you feeling about this group? Well?
Speaker 3 (47:02):
I got DeAndre Swift in the top fifteens, and when
it comes to the running backs, just based on this offense,
I'm in on Caleb as well. I'm in on Dj
Moore obviously he's my wide receiver twelve. I'm kind of
in on Loveland, but not really the same thing with Burden.
But Romadunze is a great, you know, tool that I
can utilize as a flex you know, most weeks in
(47:23):
my draft. So I do feel like that Bears offense
is going to be very explosive. But I do think
I don't need to see anything from Caleb right now.
Like I think Ben Johnson's kind of going to keep
this tucked away secret because they have a Monday night
game against the Vikings and this could mean something at
the end of the year when it comes to playoffs
and everything else. So this is a very important game
(47:44):
for them, And I think Ben Johnson's just trying to
get the mental like culture out there for Caleb to
be cause, like it's been reported that he's being hard
on him, he's coaching him up. Like it's kind of
like you know me with Mason trying to like be
hard on him when I'm trying to coach him up
with soccer. And this is what the game is, and
this is what it needs to be, Like you know
what I mean.
Speaker 1 (48:04):
I love you comparing your youth soccer coaching. Try to
get a second year quarterback to go.
Speaker 3 (48:12):
He needs to know, like kids are gonna pull your jersey,
It's okay, just keep running. Like he's watching all these
YouTube highlights of these princess soccer players and like soon
they get touched, they fall. We don't play the game
like that.
Speaker 1 (48:23):
Man, If if it works for neymar and Christiano Ronaldo, man,
why can't it work against this you U ten team
over here?
Speaker 2 (48:33):
Is doesn't play like that.
Speaker 3 (48:35):
If Messi is his favorite player, he needs to mirror that,
like you got to keep running through people pulling on
your jersey.
Speaker 1 (48:40):
But whatever, that's fair. But Messi also just like will
randomly sit out games because he just doesn't. He's just
not feeling.
Speaker 2 (48:46):
That that's my goal.
Speaker 1 (48:47):
That's my goal, all right? Fair enough?
Speaker 2 (48:52):
I have.
Speaker 1 (48:55):
Anything else? Anything else? You guys are like keeping an
eye on floor anything? Is there any anything we didn't
touch on that maybe you kind of want to see
from this weekend.
Speaker 2 (49:04):
I'm going to watch Justin Fields if he's out there
again this week. I really the thing is we've reached
the point like I've seen enough. Travon Henderson, that's my
guy this year. I don't want him to do anything more.
It's it's cost me more and more to get him.
I'm good. So like that's very much so the the
kind of attitude I take to preseason, Like if you
want a player, I don't think you want him to
(49:24):
do good in like I go back to years ago
when I'm aging myself here. But when like Emmanuel Sanders
first went to the Broncos, I was like, I want
to draft him everywhere, and then he exploded in the preseason.
It was like a third round pick and it became
too difficult to get him on all your teams. Like
I'm good, I don't want my guys that I want
to ball out this week. I'd rather do the drop
(49:44):
all the passes that go your way, do do all
that you know, like I'm saving for the regular season.
Speaker 1 (49:50):
I mean, lakwan, anything you're keeping an eye on, particularly
this weekend.
Speaker 3 (49:54):
H Surprisingly enough, it's the Seahawks again. I want to
see Tory horn I want to see Elijah or Roy.
I want to see it they're used, just like they
got a lot of opportunities twenty one round to Lodger
Royal ran and then you had seven targets for Tory Horton.
So I want to see if they keep getting these runs,
that they keep getting the reps because they have the
opportunity to step up as starters in this offense.
Speaker 1 (50:14):
Yeah, I mean, Tory Horton obviously made a splash. I
mean he was the name that a lot of people
were talking about after the weekend for sure, So definitely
keeping an eye on that. I mean, I'm gonna watch
the forty nine ers. I just want to check in
on them, see how they're doing, but also terrible. I'm
gonna check in on them and see how things are going,
but also just to kind of see in any short
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term sort of what their wide receiver rotation is gonna be,
you know, knowing Juwan Jennings is dealing with the calf,
knowing Iyuk is still out, who else might be out
there with Ricky Piersoll potentially come week one, and so
just to kind of get a sense of how that
rotation is gonna go and what that means for the
offense is what we're gonna do. So and we're not
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gonna listen to anything Lakwan has to say. It's just
it's just it's just it's just chatter man.
Speaker 2 (51:04):
Just just he keeps going. You're gonna seth Rollins is
gonna be the only person that could.
Speaker 1 (51:09):
Just talk him just because just talking, because I guess
he just likes the feeling of the vibrations in his throat.
I don't know, I got I got white shoes on today,
so I just want to keep him clean. I don't
want to get any blood on them, on them or
anything like that. So, uh, all right, we're going to
be back with you on Monday. Uh. You know, we
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will recap the recap the preseason, uh week two of
the preseason, I should say. Also a little bit of
a sneak peak. We are slated have been invited to
be guests on NFL Daily with Greg Rosenthal. He'll be
doing a little bit of mock drafting, so we are
hoping to be able to sit in with him and
uh and be part of that this year. So that
should be a lot of fun. So keep an eye
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out for that as well, gentlemen, I slacked you so
rocket Ishmael highlights all that I would ask. It's just
twenty minutes of your time for a lot of really
great you know, late eighties or.
Speaker 2 (52:09):
This back in the day.
Speaker 3 (52:11):
This looks like potato.
Speaker 1 (52:15):
Recorded on a potato. You know, one day your kids
are gonna say something to you like that too, and
it's just gonna make you well melt away. You just
you know that, right.
Speaker 2 (52:24):
I didn't mean that.
Speaker 1 (52:25):
I didn't mean to age you, bro. I'm just saying
it's all grainy like like one day, one day, your
kid's gonna be like, did you grow up during cowboy times?
And you're gonna be like what why? You know, you'll
know how it feels anyway. That'll do it for this
edition of the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. They happy, saying
(52:47):
hell they do good and live well. Enjoy the weekend,
enjoy the football. Everybody. We will talk to you again
on Monday.
Speaker 2 (52:53):
Wow. Wow
Wow, everybody, It's Thursday, August fourteenth, twenty twenty five. Welcome
to the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. We're also announcing our
upcoming album, It's Me and Your Man MG. Markus is
grand joined by Michael f. Florio and Lakwan Jones and Laqwan.
(00:22):
I just have to start with the question, why do
you look like you've got in a cartoon brawl?
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (00:33):
I got stopped today by Seth's freaking roll and some
good morning football this morning, very very early in the
morning today. This is how my day is starting right
here with a stop moon from seth freaking' roll.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Stop.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
You did actually put together pretty fire video of Seth
being in studio at GMFB. It's floating around on the
socials right now. But I love the fact that your
k fabe is taking two band aids and putting them
in an X on the side of your like like
you lost video punch out or something.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
You Roan Rens. You got a lot common now see
him punk too.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
And my wife wasn't very happy about how Steph Rown's
actually acquired that belt. So yeah, the wife was a
little so.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Then you so you get stomped out. His punishment that doesn't.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Because I tried to confront him about it and like,
you know, be my wife's honor, you know, and then
ended up with me getting stopped in it.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Get your head dribbled like it said Spaulding on it
great anyway, like Travis Hunter, like Travis Hunter, Wick calib
Johnson in preseason. But that's fair, all right. We have
preseason week two coming up. We're gonna talk about a
handful of the games, not every single one, but we'll
talk about some things, some questions that we feel like
we may have, and maybe some guys that we are
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keeping an eye on. But first, a couple of news
headlines to dive into. One in Kansas City just broke
maybe a couple hours before we started doing this show.
Rashi Rice is scheduled to have a discipline hearing on
September thirtieth. Now the date is significant because that is
after week four. We're all expecting at some point that
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Rice is going to be disciplined, that he is going
to be suspended for his traffic shall we say no
nos from a couple of years ago, I mean Florie,
knowing that we're gonna go well into the season before
the hearing even happens. But knowing that there's still potentially
an end season suspension coming, how do you approach Russhi
Rice in drafts?
Speaker 2 (02:41):
He's he's gonna and look, I wanted to be a
Rashi Rice guy this year, but with this, he's gonna
have to start falling. Like right now, his ADP's in
the fourth round. There's no way I'm taking him in
the fourth round. I think he'd have to fall to
like the sixth seventh round, and I'm not expecting that.
So I don't know if I'm gonna have a lot
of Rashi Rice. The issue is the first couple of
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weeks he's gonna be out there, but those are gonna
be his first games back from a knee injury. So
if it takes him a couple of games to look
like Rashie Rice again, once he starts to get back
into the swing of things, he could be taken from you.
This is a lot like the Ezekiel Elliott situation. I
know this at this point, it's like six seven years ago,
but he got suspended for eight games in the middle
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of this season. And that is my fear with Rashid
Rice because we don't even know how long this suspension
is gonna be could be four, could be six, could
be eight. So because of all of that, I'm probably
gonna pass on Rashi Rice, but it makes me want
to get in on Xavier Worthy. Like when I do
my ranking update today, Worthy will probably leap frog Rice
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in my rankings.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
So lakwan two Florio's point, Rice's ADP is going to fall.
We're not really sure how far it's gonna fall, how
much people are going to back off of him. So hypothetically,
is there a round he could fall two that would
make him attractive to you?
Speaker 3 (04:03):
Probably that sixth seventh round, Like this is where the
Jacobe myersers are living in the in the draft, and
like there's the question marks with some of the players
that are unproven, some rookies are down there. So I
do want to acquire him because all I know in
the back end of the season, I want him on
my team. Like when it starts to get towards the
Fantasy playoffs, I want to be able to say I
have Rice coming off the bench to give me a
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little bit more reinforcements going into the playoffs, and look,
he'll come back, like I would say after the eight
game suspension. I think he gets the max because if
we remember a pre draft, like there was already an incident,
you know, like there was already question marks about him,
So like this isn't less something that you know the
NFL is going to take lightly. So I do think
he gets that eight game max, and then he will
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returned back in Week thirteen against Dallas, which I think
it's a favorable matchup. And I do think that the
injury as well. Coming into this season, like the first
four games like those are up and down games, man,
like you got one in Brazil and like it's that's
a weird game. And he's still hasn't been really proven
to be like back back on like game speed on
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the field.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
So my immediate concerns are, I mean, hopefully ideally he
has the hearing on September thirtieth, and that the league
makes a decision shortly thereafter, right, that they don't drag
this out for another week or so, because then you're
talking about after week five, then you're talking about serving
a suspension. The other big problem is that few, if
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any fantasy leagues have a suspension slot. Right, you got
an ir slot where a guy is hurt and uninjured reserve.
You could put a guy there and you know, go
and get somebody else off the waiver wire and it
doesn't count against your roster spots. If Rashi Rice is
suspended and you've drafted him, you're just holding a spot
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for him for however many weeks. And yeah, if everything
is great, you know, if nobody gets hurt, everybody's playing well,
it's not a big deal to just sit there and
sort of way on him to get back to you.
We know that ain't life, right. We know that unfortunately,
somebody's gonna get hurt. Somebody is just not going to
pan out the way you thought in the preseason. You're
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going to have to make waiver wire moves. And that's
when after holding on to Rice for three weeks, four weeks,
five weeks, then you really are stuck trying to make
a decision of can I afford to wait on him, uh,
you know, or do I have to sort of cut
bait And then you know, fear that somebody else in
your league scoops him up. He comes back and turned
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out to be Throshet Rice. We thought he could be.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
A big difference real quick. Is to your point, Margus,
like buys are weeks five through fourteen. When a player
suspended to start the year, you can you can navigate
those early weeks because there's no buys, but those bench
spots are going to be real valuable when those buys
start hitting all season long.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
Whoever drafted Rice in the leagues that I am, I'm like,
oh my god, you should just drop him, man.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Just drop zombie on your bench. Trade dirty, try to
trade for him.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
Charity this year. I'm being so dirty this year in
all my leagues. So league may t watch out because I.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Know because inevitably there's gonna be somebody who's sitting there
at like three and four trying to fight and make
the playoffs, and maybe they got Rashi Rice on their bench.
And that's when you can be like, hey, you know,
I you help me, you scratch my back, I'll scratch
yours like you know, I'll trade. I'll trade you tomorrow
(07:34):
if you can get me. Rashi Rice helped me down
the playoffs stretch. So yeah, for sure, I'm in Cincinnati
Bengals offensive coordinator saying Chase Brown is a top ten
running back in the NFL. In fantasy circles, Chase Brown
as going as the RB twelve. So I ask you,
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Lakwan Jones, are we undervaluing Chase Brown based on the
opinion of Cincinnati Bengals offensive coordinator Damn Pitcher.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
I think we are.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
And it's not like we are like doing it on
purpose though, because there's some running backs ahead of him
that we could say our top ten running backs like
a Chan, Josh Jacobs, Kenneth Walker, and like I do
think when it comes to rankings, like I looked at
my rankings when I saw this, I'm like, Wow, he
is at my RB eleven, So I think I do
need to move him up because we're looking at a
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guy that was on pace from week nine and on
thirteen hundred yards. If he stayed with that same energy,
with that same usage, and like from week nine and on,
he was the RB four, averaging twenty Fantasy points per game.
So how I'm looking at this is like, hey, this
is the same situation. I mean, Taj Brooks does look decent,
but he ain't the real threat here where Chase Brown
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can get this max workload and this usage to where
he can crack that top ten, top five conversation.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Florida, I know you talked up Chase Brown on Fantasy
Live on Thursday. I know you like him. Are you
willing to put him in your Do you have him
in your top ten? If not, are you willing to
put him in your top ten?
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Yeah, he's in my top ten. He's my RB nine
as of right now, and I've been considering pushing him up.
The names just ahead of him are like cmc Ashton
Gent and Bucky Irving. I don't know if I'll rank
him ahead of those guys, but at cost, I like
him the most of that bunch. And to Laquan's point,
like it took him like about a month to take
over last year, but from what he did, he was
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on pace to score the fifth most, like his full
season pace would have made him the RB five. So yeah,
I think you can make him a top ten running
back and there's still room for him to grow.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
I feel like the longer the Trey Hendrickson situation goes on,
the more the Bengals offensive players are rising in ADP. Yes, right,
I mean, because I think even with Hendrickson, the Bengals
defense isn't going to be great, but at least when
he's there, no, he's gonna get out of the quarterback.
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He's gonna get pressures, he's gonna get sacks, and maybe
that helps out a little bit. If you don't have
hendrickson there, you're forcing the issue with the line of scrimmage.
This defense is gonna get shredded. And I think that's
the reason, like Chase Brown is rising. I mean, Jamar
Chase is already the one oh one like that. He
can't get me higher than that. But to Higgins, I
feel like his ADP is coming up. I just feel
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like everybody's just like, you know what.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
It go to Key looked like Tom Brady and was like,
you know what, Yeah, they're going to have to score.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
Yeah, definitely, And it doesn't help, you know, with Shamir
Stewart uh tackling or making contact with Burrows. So there
was a whole scrap about that. Did you guys see that.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
I didn't see any I haven't seen any video, but
I have read stories. Achise, Yeah, no, I man, no,
you do not do not touch the franchise. You do
not do that. So hopefully hopefully Stewart learned his lesson
over that one. Start diving into some of these Week
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two of the preseason previews. Now look understanding it's week
two of the preseason. A lot of teams will play
their starters. We're not gonna see guys a whole long time.
There's not a ton we can necessarily glean from it,
but we are using data points, right It's another data point.
It's another piece of information we can sort of use
to make our decisions going forward as we get further
into draft season. Sartis and Seahawks. That game you can
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see on NFL Network Friday at seven pm Eastern. Lakwanum, Matthew,
because I know how you feel about the Seahawks, and
you know how they have your favoritiest wide receiver of
all time Cooper Cup. Now in so a lot of
drum beats out of Seattle that Zach Charboney could end
upth passing Kenneth Walker for that starting job. I mean,
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do you could you imagine that happening? Should it happen?
And are you maybe taking a discount on sharbon Ay
right now?
Speaker 3 (11:58):
I don't think he could take over because when Kenneth
Walker is healthy, charbon is on sideline, like we know,
kW can get really really busy with the opportunity, and
I think I look at him as a high end
like handcuff, like if I draft Kenneth Walker knowing his
injury history, where Zach Charboney is going in drafts, that's
a solid handcuff like area where in that range you're
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looking at the Jaden blues of the world, like the
wood he marks his ADP now rising too, So like
I'd rather Zach Charbonnay when I know if Kenneth Walker
goes down, he'll be the guy that can have that
RB one ceiling. So I do think that this is
Kenneth Walker's backfield, his own backfield, and if we look
at clink QBX offense with the Saints, it wasn't really
like a one to two punch between Jamal Williams and
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ak Over there. So I do feel like this is
just his backfield until it's not. So Zach Charmony is
just gonna have to wait for his opportunity.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
How about you, Floria, are you a sipping Charbonay this year?
Speaker 2 (12:52):
I agree with LQ. I think he's a fantastic handcuff,
but I think it takes an injury or something like that.
Kenneth Walker in announced zone run deep offense is something
I'm pretty excited about. And he's one of those running
backs in like the fifth sixth round that I like
to go after. Is not my favorite, but he is
one that I like to go after. But I do agree, Like,
if you have Kenneth Walker, I think you need to
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handcuff him with Sharbenney.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Yeah, I'm just I'm looking here right now, zach Scharbonay
going as the RB thirty nine, So.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
Like that's fair baby.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
That feels like early for a handcuff because he's going
ahead of guys like Najie Harris, Tank Bigsby, Rashad White,
Eye on Blue. You know, just I get the idea.
If you have Kay Walker, you probably do want to
handcuff him. It feels that feels like people are drafting
Sharbenay expecting him to have some standalone value.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
But remember we were drafting Cream Hunting like that too,
Like I do look at that as a situation. Now,
I don't think they're going to be on the field
as much as cream Hunt Chubb, but who knows, Clint
Kilbick might get creative, you know.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
Yeah, except cream Hunt is like eleventy years old when
we did that, Like we should have known better.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
But Kareem Hunt actually was good in the first year
in twenty seventeen with Chemist to Fancy, So I'm not
gonna knock them for that year, all.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
Right, that's fair. Dolphins at Lions. I put this in
here mostly because I kept seeing the headlines about the Dolphins,
about Tua talking about how they were having such a
tough day and how the joint practices against the Lions
were not really going well for them. And we've talked
on this show about the Dolphins offense that really outside
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of Devon ah Chan, it seems like a lot of us,
certainly us on this show, and I think a lot
of people across the fantasy space are kind of cool,
like not cool in a good way. They're cool on
the Dolphins parentheses derogatory just because you know, the vibes
seem bad. So I mean, after this week and Tua
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saying things haven't been great, Floria, how much are you
on red alert with this Dolphins offense.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
I've been saying this a lot this summer. It is
Devon a Chen or bust for me, because with Chen
we have seen that he can win as an explosive runner.
He averaged almost eight yards per carry as a rookie.
He had the most receiving Fantasy points of any running
back last year, so he could win in a number
of different ways. And last year I believe it was intentional.
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The Dolphins completely abandoned the deep ball. They had Tua
getting the ball out of his hands in under two
point four seconds. Everything was just take your two steps
and just like, well it would be his left hand,
but just just get rid of it right like get
it to h get it to John new Smith. And
that's what led to Tyreek and Jalen Waddle being big
(15:45):
disappointments for Fantasy. I don't think those guys suddenly lost
all of their capabilities. I think they are still a
very talented duo, even though I worry if Tyreek is
starting to lose a step, but it doesn't matter if
they're not throwing the ball deep. I don't think these
guys are going to live up to expectation. I want
no parts of Tua, but I've been fading Tyreek and
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Waddle and just going after a h hen but.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
I know someone on this show feels a little different.
Oh my god, listen. I've been buying tickets to the
circus and as the show goes on, it gets a
little bit scarier soon as we get closer to the
third act into week one, I have a lot of
Tyrek kill and I'm just hoping and praying that I
got him add the value in that third round on
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that turn and a lot of my drafts. But I
do feel like, you know, it's getting a little scary
over there, because it looks like things are falling apart
before we can even get to that point, Like the
defense is getting cooked all through practice. I've seen legit
probably like seventeen a mom Ron Saint Brown clips just
lossing and doing the most craziest circus catches on all
these dolphins secondary. And the crazy thing is you got
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Isaac Tesla out there doing crazy out of the body
like experience catches, Like I'm.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Like, how did he even do that?
Speaker 3 (16:57):
Like how's he? But it's like the dolphin and secondary
is a mess. The offense has its own circus going on.
Like it's getting scary over there in Miami. So lessen
the shares.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
He looked, he looked like he went through it after
that practice yesterday, like he was crass, disheveled, and like, yoa,
I feel bad for the guy. Man.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
I once working with a guy who, when he started
he started his job, would show up to work every
day dressed very nicely, like khaki's collared shirt. Everything was
pressed and whatever. He was in a very stressful position.
And after about nine months he stopped dressing like that,
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and he started he started looking like a freshman on
his way to like an eight am science class. It
was like hair not combed, it was sweats in a
puffy coat. I'm like, you've gone through it, dude. That's
kind of what Mike McDaniel is right now, right like
he has gone through it in the last few years,
I know to The prevailing opinion is that he could
(18:03):
be the first coach fired this year, especially if the
Dolphins get off to a bad start. Hope not Yeah, hell,
I mean he's fun right, I mean, he's got great quotes.
He's very funny. I mean, he was supposed to be
sort of to the I mean, I mean he could.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
I usually.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
I mean some of these guys are not necessarily cut
out to be head coaches, but they're good coordinators. I
mean maybe McDaniel is one of those guys. I mean,
we never really know.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
I do feel bad though, because like they could have
won the division a couple of years ago if they
were in any division not with Josh Allen.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
You know, also if they were of course also if
they were in a division that where things didn't get cold,
right like if they yeah, if they GE's somehow. I
think it's somehow, you know, play games where it's not
below like sixty degrees, then they're fine.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
Like that was still unfair.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
That was that was kind of wrong. That was kind
of for sure. All right, we'll take a break, come back.
We got a few more games to previews. We get
through Week two of the preseason. That's coming up here
on the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. Diving into some of
the Week two preseason games here on the show, Packers
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at Colts. Anthony Richardson did not last long in the
first game, took a wicked sack and next thing, you know,
his pinky fingers making an unscheduled right turn. The talk
is that Daniel Jones is going to get the start,
but there is some hope maybe Richardson will be okay,
maybe he can get out there. We will see. But Foy,
(19:40):
I mean, I'm gonna ask you this because you are
I think of the three of us, the one who
still is most on board. I don't think we've all
jumped off, but I think you are more on board
than the rest of us. Like Lawan and I have
like one foot in the lifeboats. You're still hanging out
on the deck, you know, sipping a frosty drink. We're
waving you on, like, no, man, it's time to go.
Man here exactly, just standing on it as it's going
(20:08):
under going down. But I'll ask you, Florio, is this
potentially Anthony Richardson's last chance to win the Week one
starting job.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
I'm gonna tell you right now. I don't like the
way this question is worded at all. Why is it
his last show?
Speaker 1 (20:28):
Because none of these dudes are going to play in
week three of the preseason, right.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
Yeah, Yes, the dress rehearsal her reports he was ahead
going into Week one. I know his pinky was going
like this way and that that's kind of on him.
He didn't see the defender. I know, like everyone broke
down the video and was like, he's supposed to look
that way, throw that way. I get it, I get it.
He's got work to do. The colts know he has
work to do, and he needs the reps, and I look,
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I know you can't just throw away seasons in the NFL,
but when you take Anthony Richardson, you're taking him expecting
to sacrifice a season or two for his development because
where he can get to is ultimately so great. Like
I think a big mistake that a lot of teams
make nowadays is they give up on these cutes. Like
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if the Colts give up on him, I think there's
thirty maybe not thirty one because some teams have a
franchise guy, but there's like twenty other teams knocking on
their door being like, we'll take the shot on Anthony
Richardson because his upside is so high if you could
develop him. So I continue to say it, like, I
think he should be the week one starter, And the
reports were that he had shown improvement in camp with
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his touch and his play in the pocket and stuff.
So I think it's just a lot easier to go
from Richardson to Daniel Jones and you finally admit, okay,
this isn't working. But if you go to Daniel Jones
and you get off to a slow start, it's a
lot like what happened with Flacco last year. Then you
got of like got a tab between your legs. Go
back to Richardson, and it's not really showing confidence in him.
(21:57):
So I continue to think that he will be the
weak one starter. But I will I will be very
sad if I'm wrong, And I'll give you guys all
the credit, because especially you, Lacan, I know you've been
on Daniel Jones higher than really anyone.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
Yeah, I know you love you love Daniel. Is this
a Jones thing? You got to stand up for the Joneses.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
It's a Jersey. Jones is going down with the ship.
Riol is going down with the ship.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
Bro.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
I cannot get behind that. I just can't. It's gonna
be Daniel Jones man. That has to be at this
point because he cannot stay healthy. If he gets injured
in this game, just sign it off, pack it up, chief,
go ahead and clock out like it's it's going to
be a rap, Like this is his last chance to
be real, Like this is the last chance in a
preseason game in week two for Anthony Richson to step
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up and show up and show out. We've been waiting
for this. Just put something out there that we could
just be cool, calm and collected going into Week one
having a healthy Daniel Jones and Anthony Richardson debate. Okay,
that's all I got.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
What's it say though? If a guy who can't stay
held was reportedly beating the other guy, you know, like,
imagine if he gets the rest, he's a liability out
there if he can't protect hisself.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
Like, man, that hit was brutal, Like he came up
throwing up gang if he gets hurt.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
Like but but if he gets hurt, you're exactly where
you already would be if you start Daniel Jones.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
I look, I'm I'm not gonna sit here and pretend
that like this is like a high level court. Part
of the reason it is an interesting quarterback competition is
because there's two guys who are sort of at the
same level. One we've seen. I think we've seen the
best of Daniel Jones, right that season. He had a
couple of years ago that got him paid. We've seen
the best of Daniel Jones. We still believe in Anthony
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Richardson's potential, just he hasn't really come close to showing it.
I mean, this is like the race to see who's
the fastest turtle, right, Like you might be the fastest turtle.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
But you're still not Turtles are fast.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
Hey, it's Thursday night. The turtle races at Brendan's tonight.
Everybody's meat down there. Let's go, let's go check out.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
The thing about real quick. Like Daniel Jones' best season
was thirty two hundred yards and fifteen touchdowns, Like this
says not great.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
He's shown us something that Anthony Richardson has not shown
us yet.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
Upside.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
We saw the upside in his rushing upside there availability
the US seasons was the top twelve quarterback, top ten.
Anthony Richardson upside was way higher and feel like if
he could stay on the field.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
The Daniel Jones top twelve fantasies. There are some seasons
that are just outliers where we'll look back here like this,
you know the jamis thirty for thirty season, right, like
that's an outlier. The fact that he was still a
top five quarterback or whatever it was like that that
that radicalized me against current quarterback scoring, like that shouldn't happened.
There was the year I'd have to look it up.
(24:52):
There was the year where Jason Witten was like a
top ten tight end when all he did was catch
the ball and fall down like that's it. Like there
are just those seasons where like we looked back and like, okay,
yeah you finished in the top ten or top twelve,
but like did you really though? Did you really?
Speaker 3 (25:07):
We keep saying that for Anthony Richardson, but that has
yet to happen, is my point though, Like the same
upside that we're looking for for Anthony Richardson, Daniel Jones
has done that. He's done it for us already, Like
we know what he is capable of, and he's in
a situation where his legs are his weapons. And I
think that deep ball only helps Michael Pittman, it only
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helps A. D Mitchell, only helps Alex Pearce, it only
helps Shosh Downs as well.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
He doesn't have a deep ball.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
Yeah, man, Daniel Jones has a upside deep ball. There
was an opportunity in twenty twenty two.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
Not better than Anthony Richardson.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
You keep saying the word no, No, I don't think that
means I think I think that word means what you
think it means, Like there's no, I don't think there's
a floor play. In my opinion, Yeah, he's the floor play.
He's not an upside play. There's no upside there, there is.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
There is no What does outside of accuracy, what does
Daniel Jones do better than Anthony Richardson on the football field.
He doesn't have a stronger arms.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
But again, availability and upside are two very different things.
And and right now and that's fine, but don't confuse
that with upside. Anthony Richardson has upside. Daniel Jones has
perfect attendance.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
Michael Pittman or Tyler Warren? Manager, when do you want
Daniel Jones as your starter? Should be the conversation. It's
not about the actual quarterback competition. Who do we want
Tyler Warren? Who do we want Josh Allas or Michael
Pittman to score us fantasy points on Sunday?
Speaker 1 (26:46):
Don't just.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
Floating. It's not sinking.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
His boat may be all banged up, you know what,
band aids like holding it up, the bloating the water.
But at the same time, there is opportunity there for benefit,
like for us as managers for the wide receivers.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
Daniel Jones is the architect of the Wandell Robinson like
a million targets for five hundred yards season is a guy.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
That's why, LaQuan, that's not the flex you think it is.
I really didn't think we're gonna have this line of
a conversation about the Colts quarterback situation. And I'm sorry
that I walked this down that path. That's my fault.
I'm sorry. I may be about to do it again.
I have no idea where this conversation is gonna go,
but I'm thinking out there, uh, Patriots at the Vikings
(27:37):
a lot of hype around JJ McCarthy, and look, I
I was sort of pleased to see what he did
last week. Not necessarily because I'm in on drafting JJ
McCarthy because I think he's gonna be meh in year
one and you'll just be frustrated, But I think what
it means potentially for the guys around him. Uh, Lakwan
refreshed my memory. You're in on JJ McCarthy. Is there
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anything else you need to see from him this week?
Speaker 3 (28:01):
Not really like I feel like we need to worry
about his health because like it's getting to this point
now where injuries are starting to build up, and you know,
our guys are out there, they're doing all these amazing,
you know things on the practice fields like Treveon Henderson
like every beat reporter every ten seconds, and even with
JJ McCarthy, you know, going against Brian Flores is like
chaotic defense. So it's like all these things are starting
(28:23):
to build up where I just, you know, build this
chemistry in front of us in pre season, but with
Jefferson banged up right now, we're not going to be
able to see that, So it's not much I want
to see right now. Further from JJ McCarthy.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
Are you willing Florio to take JJ McCarthy, like in
a redraft like two quarterback leagues? Yeah, I'm sure, Like
would you take if you decide to take two quarterbacks,
would you draft JJ.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
McCarthy, Yeah, I think he brings enough upside, Like after
seeing Sam Darnold finish as a QB one in this system,
it's not about me loving JJ, right, it's about me
loving koc and and the weapons in this system. But uh,
it would have to be a specific build, right, Like
I don't know if i'd want to pair him, would
say like a justin fields because that doesn't really feel
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like there's enough floor there. But like say, if my
QB one was someone that I felt good about the floor.
Then I'm throwing an upside dart on JJ McCarty.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
The word of the day is upside.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
That's a good movie with Kevin Hart.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
I had no idea, trust I trust I never seen it.
I just had to take your word for it. Uh,
Chargers at Rams, Chargers at Rams. I'm I'm asking you this, Lakwan,
because this feels this feels like something you'd be into,
not about the Rams. Should we be paying attentions to
(29:52):
Arondez gadst in the se because this feels like and
by way, our producer Gavin who's a big Chargers fans,
he's paying Atten to know what you're about to say.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
Yes, the beaver borters love him, and you see on
Twitter the fantasy streets his name pops up every now
and again making big plays. And then I'm in on
him too. I think that with Will Ditsley there, Tyler Conklin, like,
we know who these guys are. But I think some
folks you know, might want to add him to the
watch list like in re draft leagues. I don't think
he's going to make like a media impact, but gradually
(30:24):
as the season goes on, you might see him make
more flashes, get more opportunity on the field. So that's
just how I'm looking at him right now this year.
But I am in dynasty heavily invested because like he
was going in the fourth round and most of these drafts,
and I think that's a great value for the upside
that he's in an offense where a tight end can
be fantasy relevant.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
All right, I don't I mean that all sounds kind
of right, like you're just you're you're drafting and stashing
and seeing what comes about. I mean, I think that's
really all it is with Gadstan Maybe the more pressing
issue u Florio. People love a mari and Hampton. I've
said this whole time that I'm just not I'm not
in on him at ADP because I kept saying, Naji
(31:07):
Harris still walks the earth.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
Now.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
I know, obviously he had the fourth of July incident.
He's putting that snapchat videos where maybe one eye is
squinting in clothes, maybe the sun is in his eyes,
or maybe he's still yeah, on a pirate track. I
don't know.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
Me and him are going down with that shit together.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
Yes, So I've been saying, I was like, look, Naji
Harris is going to come back, He's going to play,
He's going to take opportunities away from Omari and Hampton,
and everybody's getting feel just unfulfilled. Greg Roman seemed to
verify that. He seemed to validate that when he said
there's gonna be a rotation no matter what in fact
he said the days he said that the one running
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back team or one running back offense is becoming like
a prehistoric creature. Knowing that, are you still okay with
Amar and Hampton in the fourth round?
Speaker 2 (32:00):
Yeah, I'm actually coming around to Hampton because my fear
was Naji Harris, just like you and I thought early
in the year Naji would have a big role and
as the season went on he would Hampton and his
talent would win out over time. But if Nase's not
ready to start the year, that gives Hampton a runway
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to just kind of become the firm RB one here. Now.
I do think there will be a rotation because every
team uses some combination of that nowadays. But if Harris
isn't ready for week one, the backup running backs are
who's who will People we thought would be good in
fantasy from the past, like Kamani Videll, Hassan Hoskins, stuff
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like that. Like, none of those guys are eating into
the workload enough to ding Hampton, so getting him as
an RB two I love Rockett Sanders or Anderson, but
if he goes a little after him, I think that's
a perfect value.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
All right, RB three, Jones, make your case for Rocket Sanders. Listen,
that is cool.
Speaker 3 (33:08):
I think the AP is going to skyrocket after this
next preseason game. But I do think that, you know,
I'm taking the words, yeah boom, yeah, you got that.
I'm taking Greg Rouman's words because again, I do think
like he wants to keep his young running backs motivated
right now. So it's still camp, it's still preseason, so
he doesn't want to say, yeah, the RB one job
or the RB two job is locked up one hundred percent.
(33:30):
But I do think there is some truth to that
because this offense has shown this last year. I mean
signing JK. Dobbins, signing Gus Edwards. So now they draftomre
in Hampton, they get their cells and naj hairs. So
the plan for the one two punch was already there existing,
So I do think like him getting this ADP where
he's going in the fourth round is kind of nasty.
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And that's why I'm smiling and grinning when I'm able
to get a tray Von Henderson around later, or even
a R. J. Harvey, who I think is going to
overleave Hampton as well. So I do think folks need
to just chill out by streets are a little too
crazy right now.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
Yeah, I just I guess. Mostly I think for me
it's because that's been Hampton's a d P the whole
time pretty much. It feels like it hasn't really shifted
a whole lot, like everybody just decided yep, O'marion Hampton
in the fourth round. That's just that's just what we're
doing this summer. So I don't know.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
Also, Roy Roggy Ishmael is the only rocket I recognize.
Just put that.
Speaker 3 (34:28):
I don't know who that is.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
Go look him up, man.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
Oh no, no, no wait, I thought I thought you
were going a different rocket there.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
Oh yeah, rocket raccoon.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
No.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
Just go look up Roggy Ishmael highlight.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
And you were using it and I would know the name.
Check out.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
He was what we want a heisman trophy, I think
at Notre Dame he was amazing. He was a great
wide receiver, putt returner.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
I only know Mantai and Kyron and Brady Quinn that
went to Notre Dame. I'm sorry, that's just how the
memory bank is just there with those three.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
All Right, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna take a break,
and I'm gonna I'm gonna wrestle with my own mortality.
We're gonna come back. We're talking about a few more
preseason games, and then I'm gonna go burn my birth certificates.
Nobody knows how old I am. Stick around for more
the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. I spent the break watching
brocket Ishmael highlights just to make me feel better about
(35:27):
my I don't even like Notre Dame football, and you
got me defending a Notre Dame football. My USC bona
fides are in trouble. Now. They're gonna make me hand
in my Trojan football card. This is a shame anyway.
Jetson Giants Battle of the Meadowlands NFL Networking see that
game on Saturday at four pm Eastern time. LaQuan should
Jackson dark get a real shot to be the QB
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one for the Giants.
Speaker 3 (35:52):
No because I want It'll sound commident about that. I
do think like in preseason we got a little taste
of what he could bring to the table. Like I'm cool, like,
all right, let me see preseason, Like I'll come around
to it. But I kind of want Russell Wilson to
cook because like we know, when the kitchen clothes and
the recipe starts tasting a little weird. But I do
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feel like Russell Wilson get me those high spike weeks
with Milik Neighbors on that deep ball. I do think
I want that because, like I said, I'm willing to
reach on Milak Neighbors. If I'm at the one oh five,
I'm ready to take them off the field board. If
CD's gone, you know, obviously a Bajon's gone, and I'm
just like all in on Malik Neighbors in this Russell
Wilson connection just to start the season.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
Are we sure Florio that the Russ deep ball, that
the moon ball is still there? Because I'm looking. I'm
looking at his game logs from last year and starting
in Week fourteen, these were his yards per attempt six
point one five point eight, six point six, five point five,
four point eight That that doesn't sound very moonballish to me, Like,
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are we sure that still exists?
Speaker 2 (36:58):
For us? It might not be what it once was,
but it's otherworldly compared to what the Giants quarterbacks were
last year. Like I put out an article on nfl
dot com top ten league winners, and Elik Neighbors is
number one, and the reason is largely because of the
deep ball. Because last year Russ had a forty six
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percent success rate on the deep ball might not be
what it was in his prime. Giants quarterbacks as a
whole had a twenty percent success rate. The rating is
more than double. The completion percentage more than double. The
EPA is like quadruple, Like it's off the charts. How
much better Russ is than everyone that was throwing the
deep ball last year? And the thing I like about
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this situation is Jackson Dart has a strong arm as well.
Jameis Winston we know is the king maker, So even
if something happened to Russ, there's options there that should
only help. I'm yeah, I absolutely love Thelak Neighbors, and yeah,
I'm all in. I do think darts like I would
love to see it be a competition, but I think
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we were actual yesterday on Fantasy Live. Which Giants quarterback
we think scores the most points this year? And I
think it's Russ because their defense and Elik neighbors will
make him look good enough where a Dable and the
coaching staff want to just keep brought in with with
uh Russ.
Speaker 1 (38:17):
Yeah, I mean, I I keep thinking at some point
they're gonna start Jackson Dart because and maybe maybe I'm
just underestimating how good the defense is or how much
the defense I should say, keep them in games. I
know they're good. I'm underestimating maybe how much the defense
will keep them in games because their schedule is brutal
(38:38):
and there's a very good chance they start Zher to
four even if Russ is you know, even if US
isn't a dumpster fire, right, Russ can be just fine.
He can be perfectly Russ, and it could still be
oh and four when you look at that. Yeah, And
so like I'm just wondering, like do they press on
because starting on four is always bad. Starting oh and
four in the nfcast where you gotta deal with the
(39:00):
Eagles and the Commanders is going to be hellish. So like,
at what point do they throw up the white flag
and start Jackson Dart and I just you know, so
I think that's very much in play, And I'm like, so,
then part of me is wondering, like, well, why don't
you just bite the bullet and just start him from
the beginning and just see what you got.
Speaker 2 (39:19):
Because they think they can make the playoffs with Russ,
I'd imagine.
Speaker 3 (39:23):
But the Giants aren't gonna be good though, we know
that right like the.
Speaker 1 (39:27):
Christ the Giants can go to a playoff game. They
can buy a ticket like the rest of us. You know,
it's throwing him in when their bye week is fourteen,
Like that's when you're gonna throw the scenes is already
washed it over.
Speaker 2 (39:39):
Like no, I think that's why they they can move
before that.
Speaker 1 (39:43):
So wait, look are you are you advocating this? Look on,
are you advocating that they start Jackson Dart?
Speaker 2 (39:49):
No?
Speaker 3 (39:49):
No, what I'm saying is they start him after week fourteen.
But again, that's fantasy playoffs. Like I'm good, I kind
of don't want that change. Let let Dark develop, like
he doesn't need to start year one, like, let these
quarterbacks develop in three years like how they used to.
Like I do think they're sitting in a good spot
with a quarterback room that has Jameis Winston Russell Wilson.
So I'd rather go from Russell Wilson to Jameis Winston
(40:12):
than Jackson Dark. Like that's my order in fantasy and
my priorities of how many shares I have league neighbors,
Like we need those two Winston to cook together. Yeah,
that is the dreams that you don't need to see
Dark this year, Like I don't.
Speaker 2 (40:28):
I think if the Giants fall out of it or
they start falling behind and they make them move to Dark.
Speaker 1 (40:33):
Uh. Interesting point two though there is there is the
issue of Brian Babel try to maintain employment as an
NFL head.
Speaker 3 (40:41):
Coach, So Dark as a test piece so you can know.
Speaker 1 (40:45):
I honestly, I think if you're trying to hold onto
your job, you probably are starting RUSS and then going
to jamis like you're not You're not a coach who's
on the hot seat and you're gonna throw a rookie
in there and just see what happens. Like that's not
gonna work.
Speaker 2 (40:58):
I think it would have to be an early he
sees an injury for RUSS for us to get jamis
like I think if they make a change at starting quarterback,
it's them waving the white flag and going.
Speaker 1 (41:07):
To the kid who's more likely to start. Who's Who's
who's more likely to start games this year, Jameis Winston
or Kenny Pickett.
Speaker 2 (41:19):
Kenny Pickett in MI, guys, it's amazing.
Speaker 1 (41:26):
I didn't really think about that.
Speaker 3 (41:28):
I want to say, Kenny Kenny Pickett.
Speaker 1 (41:31):
I asked that because I was having a conversation with
somebody yesterday and we started talking about the Browns quarterback situation,
and we both sort of landed on the fact that
everybody's talking about either Joe Flacco, like, hey, Flacco is
probably gonna win the job, he'll be the starting quarterback,
or you talk about the rookies right like, when do
they get Dylan Gabriel a shot? How much of a
shot that should were saying. Nobody's mentioning Kenny Pickett, Like
(41:53):
Kenny Pickett is just there, right.
Speaker 3 (41:55):
And they traded for him.
Speaker 1 (42:00):
He's very much just a seat warmer right now. Like
nobody like the conversations, either the old guy or the
young guys. Nobody's talking about the guy in the middle
at this point.
Speaker 3 (42:08):
Crazy, Yeah, he.
Speaker 1 (42:14):
Seems like I've never met him. He seems like, I'm
sure he's a perfectly fine gentleman. I have no affinity with.
Speaker 3 (42:20):
If you're from New Jersey, I protect you just put
it like that. That's just what it comes down.
Speaker 1 (42:24):
To, Okay.
Speaker 2 (42:26):
I was trying to think someone terrible from Jersey.
Speaker 1 (42:31):
There's gotta be like a there's gotta be like a
mafia don or something like that. Yeah, yeah, right, exactly
in my vision. I don't headline Lakwan Jones supports the
Mafia Cardinals at Broncos again NFL Network. That game Saturday,
nine thirty Eastern time, l Q, you are the biggest R. J.
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Harvey stand on this show. I have repeatedly said that
Sean Payton is a lying liar who lies and he's
gonna get JK. Dobbins in there more than you think.
Harvey had some good plays last week. I'm the knock
on him though, is that he was trying to bounce
everything outside. Does that bother you? Do you need to
see him run between the tackles more? Are you cool
with him being him?
Speaker 3 (43:13):
I do want him to run in between the tackles
to show that he can do it, like just to
put the haters to bed because him bouncing outside doesn't
bother me. And again, his coach, he even spoke on
it. It doesn't bother him because he's beating those guys nine
times out of ten going up the field. So I
do think that, you know, RJ. Harvey needs to show
a little bit more in between the tackles, just to
showcase him as fully as like he could be in
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every down back. He may not be in every down
back in this system, but it's fine. Sean Payton's on
the sticks and he knows how to utilize a one
to two punch. We've seen him be very, very very
successful with this in New Orleans. So I'm not worried
about RJ. Harvey, not a bit. Give them all, give
me the shares. I'm good, Floria.
Speaker 1 (43:53):
I know you said you've come around on Amar and Hampton.
Where are you on Harvey?
Speaker 2 (43:57):
I really like RJ. Harvey. I won't say I'm l
Q levels of like, but I loved him as a
prospect in the new year. I don't need to see
him run between the tackles. I need him to catch
passes and to run out wide and get those big
chunk plays. And I think Peyton is the like he
fell to the perfect landing spot. I know JK. Dobbins
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puts a little bit of a cap there because I
do think he'll be the goal line runner. But he
Harvey could have like a Camara light type season that
that he had under Payton for years.
Speaker 1 (44:30):
Yeah, that's that's a that's a Camara light. Yeah. I
think I think that's probably the best thing. I wouldn't
call it.
Speaker 2 (44:36):
Yeah, we got de Bo light.
Speaker 1 (44:37):
Yeah, and who's de Bo? Who's Debolan Debo? Yeah, but
like that's been generally unsatisfying, like it's been.
Speaker 3 (44:46):
Yeah, yeah, he has been that way too, but Dibo's
been unsatisfying as well, so it kind of plays it.
Speaker 1 (44:54):
Yeah. Yeah, I just I keep thinking everybody really is
holding onto that twenty twenty one Deebo seat and like
wanting it to I'm I'm taking I'm I'm assuming it's not.
Speaker 2 (45:09):
Choosing.
Speaker 1 (45:10):
I'm choosing to believe that he was actually making a
football point here and not just you know, come on there.
But but for the record, I might have I might
have I might have made a mention of you on
Fantasy Live when I talked about Kyron Williams, So you know, whatever,
hold up now six pm Eastern, three o'clock Pacific in
(45:31):
IF on network, shout out Bill's at Bears Floria. I
know you will be. I'm, like I say, watching intently,
but I'm sure you will definitely check in and see
how things are going. Ben Johnson has said the starters
will play maybe a fairly good amount in this one.
The reports out of Bears camp have sort of been
up and down. You know. There have been things where
(45:55):
it looked times where it looks good, there have been
times where everybody has sort of struggled. Ben Johnson is
trying to be creative talking about putting DJ Moore in
the backfield every once in a while. What do you
want to see or how much do you want to
see from Caleb and the starters this weekend?
Speaker 2 (46:10):
I want to see just enough, you know, like like
a player too where you're like okay, Like this Bears
offense looks like they're cooking with fire, and I don't
want to see anything more than that because I'm trying
to draft a lot of Bears this summer, and if
they go out and fall out, every player's ADP is
gonna rise, and I don't want that. I'm especially with
the Bears, though, I'm more interested in usage than results,
(46:33):
Like I want to see where Dj Moore is lining up.
I want to see where Roman Dunes is lining up.
Is Luther Birden playing the slot? Is DeAndre Swift getting
the three downs opportunity? You don't have to get him
all the touches, just to see out there standing next
to Caleb for three downs. And that's what I care about.
So I hope they're not very productive, but I hope
it is like the alignment and the usage that we're
hopeful to see.
Speaker 1 (46:54):
Where are you on the Bears offense? Lakwan like? How
many guys are you targeting? Where are you Tark Like,
how are you feeling about this group? Well?
Speaker 3 (47:02):
I got DeAndre Swift in the top fifteens, and when
it comes to the running backs, just based on this offense,
I'm in on Caleb as well. I'm in on Dj
Moore obviously he's my wide receiver twelve. I'm kind of
in on Loveland, but not really the same thing with Burden.
But Romadunze is a great, you know, tool that I
can utilize as a flex you know, most weeks in
(47:23):
my draft. So I do feel like that Bears offense
is going to be very explosive. But I do think
I don't need to see anything from Caleb right now.
Like I think Ben Johnson's kind of going to keep
this tucked away secret because they have a Monday night
game against the Vikings and this could mean something at
the end of the year when it comes to playoffs
and everything else. So this is a very important game
(47:44):
for them, And I think Ben Johnson's just trying to
get the mental like culture out there for Caleb to
be cause, like it's been reported that he's being hard
on him, he's coaching him up. Like it's kind of
like you know me with Mason trying to like be
hard on him when I'm trying to coach him up
with soccer. And this is what the game is, and
this is what it needs to be, Like you know
what I mean.
Speaker 1 (48:04):
I love you comparing your youth soccer coaching. Try to
get a second year quarterback to go.
Speaker 3 (48:12):
He needs to know, like kids are gonna pull your jersey,
It's okay, just keep running. Like he's watching all these
YouTube highlights of these princess soccer players and like soon
they get touched, they fall. We don't play the game
like that.
Speaker 1 (48:23):
Man, If if it works for neymar and Christiano Ronaldo, man,
why can't it work against this you U ten team
over here?
Speaker 2 (48:33):
Is doesn't play like that.
Speaker 3 (48:35):
If Messi is his favorite player, he needs to mirror that,
like you got to keep running through people pulling on
your jersey.
Speaker 1 (48:40):
But whatever, that's fair. But Messi also just like will
randomly sit out games because he just doesn't. He's just
not feeling.
Speaker 2 (48:46):
That that's my goal.
Speaker 1 (48:47):
That's my goal, all right? Fair enough?
Speaker 2 (48:52):
I have.
Speaker 1 (48:55):
Anything else? Anything else? You guys are like keeping an
eye on floor anything? Is there any anything we didn't
touch on that maybe you kind of want to see
from this weekend.
Speaker 2 (49:04):
I'm going to watch Justin Fields if he's out there
again this week. I really the thing is we've reached
the point like I've seen enough. Travon Henderson, that's my
guy this year. I don't want him to do anything more.
It's it's cost me more and more to get him.
I'm good. So like that's very much so the the
kind of attitude I take to preseason, Like if you
want a player, I don't think you want him to
(49:24):
do good in like I go back to years ago
when I'm aging myself here. But when like Emmanuel Sanders
first went to the Broncos, I was like, I want
to draft him everywhere, and then he exploded in the preseason.
It was like a third round pick and it became
too difficult to get him on all your teams. Like
I'm good, I don't want my guys that I want
to ball out this week. I'd rather do the drop
(49:44):
all the passes that go your way, do do all
that you know, like I'm saving for the regular season.
Speaker 1 (49:50):
I mean, lakwan, anything you're keeping an eye on, particularly
this weekend.
Speaker 3 (49:54):
H Surprisingly enough, it's the Seahawks again. I want to
see Tory horn I want to see Elijah or Roy.
I want to see it they're used, just like they
got a lot of opportunities twenty one round to Lodger
Royal ran and then you had seven targets for Tory Horton.
So I want to see if they keep getting these runs,
that they keep getting the reps because they have the
opportunity to step up as starters in this offense.
Speaker 1 (50:14):
Yeah, I mean, Tory Horton obviously made a splash. I
mean he was the name that a lot of people
were talking about after the weekend for sure, So definitely
keeping an eye on that. I mean, I'm gonna watch
the forty nine ers. I just want to check in
on them, see how they're doing, but also terrible. I'm
gonna check in on them and see how things are going,
but also just to kind of see in any short
(50:36):
term sort of what their wide receiver rotation is gonna be,
you know, knowing Juwan Jennings is dealing with the calf,
knowing Iyuk is still out, who else might be out
there with Ricky Piersoll potentially come week one, and so
just to kind of get a sense of how that
rotation is gonna go and what that means for the
offense is what we're gonna do. So and we're not
(50:57):
gonna listen to anything Lakwan has to say. It's just
it's just it's just it's just chatter man.
Speaker 2 (51:04):
Just just he keeps going. You're gonna seth Rollins is
gonna be the only person that could.
Speaker 1 (51:09):
Just talk him just because just talking, because I guess
he just likes the feeling of the vibrations in his throat.
I don't know, I got I got white shoes on today,
so I just want to keep him clean. I don't
want to get any blood on them, on them or
anything like that. So, uh, all right, we're going to
be back with you on Monday. Uh. You know, we
(51:34):
will recap the recap the preseason, uh week two of
the preseason, I should say. Also a little bit of
a sneak peak. We are slated have been invited to
be guests on NFL Daily with Greg Rosenthal. He'll be
doing a little bit of mock drafting, so we are
hoping to be able to sit in with him and
uh and be part of that this year. So that
should be a lot of fun. So keep an eye
(51:55):
out for that as well, gentlemen, I slacked you so
rocket Ishmael highlights all that I would ask. It's just
twenty minutes of your time for a lot of really
great you know, late eighties or.
Speaker 2 (52:09):
This back in the day.
Speaker 3 (52:11):
This looks like potato.
Speaker 1 (52:15):
Recorded on a potato. You know, one day your kids
are gonna say something to you like that too, and
it's just gonna make you well melt away. You just
you know that, right.
Speaker 2 (52:24):
I didn't mean that.
Speaker 1 (52:25):
I didn't mean to age you, bro. I'm just saying
it's all grainy like like one day, one day, your
kid's gonna be like, did you grow up during cowboy times?
And you're gonna be like what why? You know, you'll
know how it feels anyway. That'll do it for this
edition of the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. They happy, saying
(52:47):
hell they do good and live well. Enjoy the weekend,
enjoy the football. Everybody. We will talk to you again
on Monday.
Speaker 2 (52:53):
Wow. Wow
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