NFL Network Insider Ian Rapoport is joined by NFL Network anchor Mike Yam to talk about the latest headlines, including John Harbaugh getting an extension with the Ravens. Plus, Stefon Diggs has his first press conference as a Patriot; Browns superstar Myles Garrett talks about Cleveland drafting a quarterback; Penn State defensive end Abdul Carter and tight end Tyler Warren discuss their pre-draft process with Brian Baldinger; and Florida State defensive tackle Joshua Farmer joins the Insiders.
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Speaker 1 (00:08):
Coming upon Insider's the speculation on what the Falcons will
do with Kirk Cousins is creating social media drama. Could
a fast food restaurant unlock the answers to the quarterback's
next destination? Speaking of not having answers, Aaron Rodgers his
future in the NFL, it's still in question. We're not
doing a darkness retreat, but one of our experts gets
down to the bottom of what's he thinking, and Abdul
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Carter has moved quarterbacks to the grounds with ease. We'll
slide past that quarterback conversation and talk to the Penn
State star who could be the best player in this
year's drafts, And with that we welcome you to Insiders.
Mike yam Ian Rappaport. No, it's not Tom Pallisero, Michi
or Judy Batista. I wouldn't go as far as to
say that Tom has better hair than me, but Lord
knows me and he's got more volume, So I will
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try to do my best here.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
You have way better hair. Tom doesn't even have good hair. Oh,
I mean, let's just be honest right.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
To This is why I in I love working with you,
thrill when I heard it was going to be me
and you today. There is a times just be real exactly,
there's a ton to get to take texting me in
about two seconds, there's probably no doubt, and I'll probably
get an angry text as well, and he'll probably show
me how much product he's using to make sure that
he gets that volume. A ton to get to for us,
And certainly looking forward to your take on all of
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these stories that surrounds maybe the number one pick in
this year's draft, cam Ward.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
We watch them have a stellar pro day this week.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
That momentum has carried into a private workout with the Titans,
who owned the number one overall pick. You know, break
this down for me, what do we need to know
about Tennessee and they're thinking about potentially their new QB one.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
But what the Tennessee Titans are doing is really going
through a thorough evaluation process, not just trying to figure
out is cam Ward the number one overall pick for them?
But are they even gonna make the number one overall
pick they have cam Ward today? Obviously they were very
famously at his pro day a couple of days ago.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
In fact, remember when.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Cam Ward threw a dime down the field, came over
to Titans brass and basically said, I'm the guy for you.
In other words, pick me at number one. Now they
are just not there yet. They also, by the way,
are going to do a private workout with Shador Sanders
after his pro day, so that is going to be
in a couple of weeks. And really what they want
to find out are either of these guys worthy of
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number one.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
If the answer is yes, then it is simple.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Likely take cam Ward, here's their franchise quarterback in the
Tennessee who had a really tough year last year. Have
a new general manager in a second year, a coach,
and Brian Callahan can just move forward like that. If
they do not believe that either players worthy of number one,
then likely they would look to trade. And they are
going to have several teams interested. The Giants would potentially
be one, the Saints would potentially be one. The Titans
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have time, They're trying to do a thorough process and
figure it out. I would say it's likely that they
make the number one pick pick right now, but.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
That is not for certain.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
And by the way, more context on this story coming up,
and just a big cam Wolfe was actually at that
pro day. So more on cam Ward coming up here
on Insiders. Not the only quarterback though that could be
taken in the first round. In fact, Jackson Dart is
now creating a little bit of buzz had his pro day.
This is a guy who's had plenty of splash plays
playing for Lane Kiffin at Ole Miss.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
Three year starter through for over.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
Ten thousand yards, seventy two touchdowns, ran for twelve more
ian what's the general conversation been like when you hear
Jackson Dart and NFL teams.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Well, first of all, let's get to the NFL teams, right,
because obviously Jackson Dart put on a show today. There
was a lot of wild plays in college. There's a
lot of wild throws today. Sounded like overall extremely extremely
positive for Jackson Dart.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
But of note for me at least, was who was there?
Speaker 4 (03:39):
Right?
Speaker 2 (03:40):
I mean, because we all talked about which coaches at
tend and you know, obviously so many high ranking officials
were at cam Wards Frodie, but Kevin Stefanski, the Browns
head coach, he was at Jackson Darts pro day. Shaye Tierney,
the Giants quarterback coach, he also was there. Kellen Moore,
the Saints head coach, all there for Jackson Dart doesn't
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seem right now, we'll see, doesn't seem like he's going
to crack into the top two of quarterbacks, but certainly
very much in the conversation for who the third quarterback
is going to be. And you know, look, if you
asked NFL personnel right now he said, where does he rank?
I think a lot of people would say, you know,
maybe second round. Usually if you're a quarterback and you
got game, and Jackson Dart does, if your second round quarterback,
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you probably end up in the first round. We saw
the same thing with bo Nicks last year, ended up
going early one at a time when no one thought
he would be able to. This is a guy in
Jackson Duard who I would say this, It seems like him.
If he is quarterback three, I wouldn't be surprised at
all if he's the first round. And then those teams
I mentioned before, Kabili can trade back into one to
come get it.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
Yeah, it's wild. Last year and you made a reference
to we saw bon Nix Goo twelfth.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Overall a historic run of those quarterbacks in that first round,
with six going in those first full picks.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
Probably not going to see that this year.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
But to your point, if you need a quarterback, probably
have to take Jackson guard at some point in the
first round.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
He's got that moxy too.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
If you've seen a lot of he's on this game,
it's not shy about talking out on that football field. Meanwhile, sure,
Shadre Sanders and Camboard could be the first two qbs
off the board. Now we talked earlier about cam Ward
and that work out with the Titans. He's already met
with the Browns as Shador Sanders will.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
Do the same.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
Cleveland's leader plays on the defensive side of Miles Garrett.
He knows well they need someone.
Speaker 5 (05:21):
Any team that's going to go far and needs as
a quarterback and you know one that that's young can
can learn. Is it's willing to uh you know, be
patient with the process and uh you know he's not
a deterred or discouraged early on. There's going to be
some bumps in the road. It's gonna be some some
learning pains, but no, no, US as a team as
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an organization has to be able to uh be a
landing pad from you know, the fall back on and
uh you know, being able to be on the defensive
side and uh help him out whenever no things go wrong.
That that's that's crucial. That's not for just for a
young quarterback. That's for veterans and guys who've been here
for for a while.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
You say, veterans, I got one for you. So there's
been a little buzz here on social media. Cleveland might
have their eyes on another quarterback. Her cousin's seen at
a Cleveland Chipotle. Now, Ian, I know you'll be able
to tell us what it means from a football perspective,
but let's get real here. There's another layer to this story.
And our GMFB team revealed that when.
Speaker 6 (06:23):
I hear double chick and I cringe because if I
know Kirk, you got to know the hack at Chipotle
on how to order twice the amount of me on.
You never ever say I would like a bowl with
double steak or burrito with double barbakoa. No, what you
say is, sir, ma'am, I would like a steak burrito,
and then they give you the full single.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
Portion of steak, full spoonful.
Speaker 7 (06:46):
Then just is there about to move it over to
the next day?
Speaker 3 (06:49):
You know, I say, you know what let's make it
a double portion.
Speaker 8 (06:52):
You will end up with more when you order double
from the get go, something in their head says, all right,
one of these doubles. I'm just gonna but they'll give
you the full single word. And then, by the way,
also works.
Speaker 7 (07:02):
At the bar.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
Ian your thoughts are you a double meat guy?
Speaker 2 (07:09):
I would never order double meat out a Chipole. I
like Chipotle, by the way, they do a great job,
and I would never order double meat. Now talking at
the bar order a double that actually can happen from
time to time, the same rules do not apply. I
really appreciate Kyle Brand's breakdown. And if anyone anyone knows
how to gain the system at a place like Chipotle,
it's Kyle brandt.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
Well, let me get to the other topic here. I
have a couple of years.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
First of all, when Miles Garrett speaks, when Miles Garrett
talks about the quarterback.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
Position, that is meaningful, that is significant.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
The reason I say that, of course, is Miles Garrett
very famously ask the Browns to trade him Roll in
the offseason, ended up coming back listening to the team's pitch.
Listen to their explanation. Plus forty million dollars per year
also helped. But listen to their explanation about how they're
going to get back to being competitive. When he speaks
about them drafting the young quarterback and being willing to
let this quarterback clarent, this sounds like someone who's heard
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exactly that from Cleveland Brown's brass. That is why when
Miles Garrett talks about them taking to quarterback a rookie quarterback,
I would say this, I would listen, now, is it
going to be at two? We don't know, is it
going to be in the second round or betrayed up early?
And if we don't know, but certainly does seem like
that potentially could be the case. The Kirk Cousins factor
here is fascinating as well, because the Browns had mentioned
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one of the teams that's maybe been interested in Kirk Cousins.
But here's what I would say on kirk Cousins obviously
has the huge contract. He has one hundred million dollars
guaranteed by the Atlanta Falcons over a couple of years.
I believe it's ninety fully over the first two years
of his deal. The new team acquiring the contract is
not going to pay that forget that number.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
That's not important. The Falcons are ready on the hook
for that. The question is.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
If your new team acquiring Cousins and the Browns certainly
would make sense, as would a couple other teams. What
the facts are going to try to get you to
do is take some of it. How much is it
twenty million, is at ten?
Speaker 3 (09:01):
Is it five?
Speaker 2 (09:02):
How much the new team pays will obviously affect what
draft pick they're willing to send the Falcons four Cousins.
It's sort of a sliding scale. We don't even know
right now if the Falcons end up trading him, but
the actual money on the contract doesn't matter. Just how
much is the new team willing to take on.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Glad you have another that context not only on your order,
but also on the dollars and cents with regard to
Kirk Cousins. Now we're having this conversation about what some
of these teams at the top of the draft might
be thinking, especially at quarterback. Turns out there's actually a
defensive player who might be the best of the entire group.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Darn Underneath lost the football.
Speaker 9 (09:39):
He got hit by a dual carter to the twenty
six dual Carter, the defensive player of the Year of
the Big Ten.
Speaker 7 (09:51):
Nowhere to go.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
Boy, look at up dual Carter lacerating that offensive front
got pretty sacked on the way back to the series.
Let's get a special.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Man look for this entire conversation about the Titans. And
if it's cam Ward, maybe a quarterback Lance Zerline, who
I work with on Mock Draft Live h going on
his mock with the Titans taking a duel Carter going
some defense. The point is, even if it's not the Titans,
according to all of our experts, he's not going to
have to wait all that long to hear his name called.
Today was his Pro day and our guy Brian Baldinger
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was able to track him down.
Speaker 10 (10:26):
I'll duel Carter Penn State Pro Day. It's here, it's coming,
and it's here. You're not your support, your players out
here and your friends and your teammates here today. But
what's it been like for you? It's been dope just
being there. I wish I was out here competing, That's
what I want to do. But to be nirous for
my brothers seem to make their money, getting their time,
see the seeing everything they worked for, coming to fruition.
Speaker 4 (10:45):
So it's been dope for me.
Speaker 10 (10:47):
Well speaking times, I mean, I saw you with the
stompotch like, I mean, you look like your scout out
here timing your guys today.
Speaker 4 (10:53):
Man, Now, anybody blow you away with her time?
Speaker 11 (10:55):
Definitely? Jaalen Kimber. He probably was the start of the
day right now, Kimaru or three twice. But I've seen
him working in Texas. Ive seen all alongst everybody's seeing
his results right now, but I've seen him working in Texas,
So it's alidough for him.
Speaker 4 (11:07):
What do people want to know about you?
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Do?
Speaker 10 (11:08):
Like you had these interviews here, They'm whining and dining
you all these different teams.
Speaker 4 (11:13):
What do they want to know?
Speaker 10 (11:14):
Because when I turn the tape on, there's a kid
that loves football, Like is that?
Speaker 4 (11:18):
Honestly? All they should know how much you love it.
Speaker 11 (11:21):
Everything else is important, like the off the field stuff
like who I am as a person and things like that.
But the end of the day, I just love football,
love playing, love competing.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
At the end of the day, what was it like
here these three years for y'all? Do I mean?
Speaker 10 (11:31):
This has been a very successful period here at Penn
State for in the history of Penn State football. It's
been a really nice period of time. Did it feel
like Happy Valley to you?
Speaker 4 (11:41):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (11:41):
I loved there.
Speaker 4 (11:41):
Penn State was none but good to me.
Speaker 11 (11:43):
Just my whole process here, just obviously on the field,
my growth as a player. But the main thing I
see is, like off the field, how I grew as
a person, like as a teammates, as a person in
the locker.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
Room, Like my maturity.
Speaker 11 (11:54):
I feel like I was a little bit selfish coming
in and getting out of my system throughout my first
three years here, having time for coach in so many
ways where I was just mature as a man and
as a player.
Speaker 4 (12:03):
And as a player.
Speaker 10 (12:04):
You came here as a linebacker, you wanted to be
a linebacker, end up kind of going to the edge.
But you really can play anywhere. Like wherever they put you,
is that is that? Would you say You're it's positioned
as football? Wherever they put up. Due, I'm here to
make plays. I could play offense too.
Speaker 11 (12:19):
I saw you throwing the ball. You need a little
work on that. I can throw it, I can get
it to where you. I can put it on the money,
all right, So I know I'm listen. So I saw
Chop Robinson here, last year's number one pick. He said,
last year he ran a four to fury and he said,
you're faster than him. So if you did run, I'll
doing what kind of time might we have seen? Yeah,
I will say on four to three and I would
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have put it on paper, but I didn't work out.
But he say, he said I'm faster than him.
Speaker 10 (12:43):
Yeah, okay, that's surprised you've done yet.
Speaker 11 (12:46):
Now I'm surprised he admitted that. But I already kne
I'm surprised he admitted that.
Speaker 10 (12:50):
All right, I'm doing listen, congratulations, good luck to you. Uh,
it's been a fun process for you, or how would
you describe this?
Speaker 11 (12:57):
It's definitely been a fun, been a grind, but it's
all worth it. So living in my drem go live
outside dream brother apprecire, all right, nice talking to you.
Speaker 7 (13:05):
All right.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
A lot to unpack there.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
And by the way, Chopp was a freak azoid at
the combine, so the fact that he's saying Duel Carter
is faster than him is noteworthy. More from Baldy, by
the way, coming up in just a bit, Tyler Warren,
who might be the first tight end taken in this
year's draft.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
He goes one on one with him in just a moment.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
But there's a reason why we don't have the official
forty time from Abdul Carter coming off of an injury,
didn't work out in his pro day. How does that affect,
if at all, in his draft prospects.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
First of all, Abdul Carter is going to go early,
right you mentioned him with all the teams in the
top five. I would be stunned if he fell out
of the top five. Really, the question is, though, where
does he go freak athlete? All this stuff about his
feed that was all real, But there are going to
be some questions for NFL teams, specifically about medical. We
know that he dealt with his shoulder injury, showed a
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lot of toughness late in the season playing to a
pretty significant shoulder injury that has taken some time to
heal and was the reason that he originally was not
sleated to work out of the Combine. Then he met
with Combine medical officials, met with doctors and they discovered
a little bit of a stress reaction. You'd call it
a stress fracture, but it's not as significant as that
on his foot so they pulled him back and they
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were discussing whether or not to have surgery.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
My understanding was.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
It was a very small spot, it was not causing
him pain, so they opted not to have surgery. That said,
they have a great player with a couple of medical
questions who hasn't worked out.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
Teams are going to have to do their homework.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
And if you pick him in the top five, which
again I expect him to be picked in the top five,
there's always going to be a little bit of uncertainty.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
There's nothing wrong here. He's going to be fine, but
you'd like.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
A sure thing, and as of right now, it's a
small bit.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
Less than that.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
Okay, other news to get to. I saw this hit
the inbox a little while ago. I look for all
the conversation we have about quarterbacks in anyone when you
got a good coach, you make sure that he's not
going anywhere. Baltimore, they got one John Harbaugh, who gets
an extension.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
Yeah, big time extension, lucrative extension for John Harball. He
gets a three year deal, was actually going into the
last year of his deal, which you know, can create
some drama, can create some discussion. Not like he's in
any trouble. But I'm just saying, when you're going into
the last year of your deal, there's always a talk.
And so what they did was they ended a talk.
They made him very richly paid, as he has already been.
(15:20):
My understanding is the extent is actually extension is actually
north of his brother Jim, which should be interesting conversation.
He at various tables during holiday time. He is now
locked in through twenty twenty eight. It's going to be
interesting to see what when the Baltimore Ravens address the
a status of general manager Eric Tacosta, also going into
the last year of his deal. They have enjoyed an
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incredible six year run together. Would imagine that would be
the next thing for Baltimore to tackle.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
But a big day for the head coach today.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
I wonder if John goes to the negotiating room and says,
you know what, just one dollar more than Jim, Just
one dollar more is all I need. Possibly, well, looks
like he is going to get a little bit more.
Not the only the coach that's getting an extension and
getting paid. He might be the biggest attraction on all
of college football, player or coach. And yes, I'm talking
about Prime, who gets a five year, fifty four million
dollar contract extension by CU. So he's not going anywhere
(16:13):
in terms of staying with the Buffs. What's the fallout
ian from an NFL perspective with for Prime?
Speaker 2 (16:21):
If you say not going anywhere, and I would agree,
it sounds like he's not going anywhere. Five year extension,
massive deal ten point eight million dollars were the highest
paid coaches in college football, and he is worth it.
I mean, the popularity of Colorado football has gone through
the stratosphere since coach Prime took over. And you know,
his name was mentioned a little bit, I would say,
by some people in conjunction with the Dallas Cowboys head
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coaching job this year. Obviously that went to Brian Schottenhammer.
That was never a real thing, but it did sort
of lead to some discussions about his new deal. But
here's what I know. I know the NFL world, I
know the gossip circles. Whoever drafts Shador Sanders, if that
team ends up struggling, you're going to say, hey, what
about coach Prime. Yes, I know he signed a five
year deal, but it's not going to stop the discussion.
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I think the main thing for him, He gets paid
his salary that he deserved. It's a very good day
to be Dion Sanders. But this is not going to
quiet any of this talk for next year. I'll just
tell you that.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
Yeah, and maybe a little less on the negative recruiting
for some of the competition out there saying hey, Prime's
out the door. I can help me say, hey, yeah,
five year deal not going anywhere. Whether or not that's
actually accurate or not, at least he can go and
officially say that. Ian more from you in just a
moment here on the insiders. But also need to update
everyone on what's happening with this dude, because when he's healthy,
it's fun. Dig's one of the best wide receivers in
the NFL. Drake may Well, his team just leveled up.
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Patriots sagree to a three year, sixty nine million dollar
deal with the wide receiver.
Speaker 4 (17:42):
I'm a head a schedule.
Speaker 12 (17:43):
I'm trying to stay ahead of schedule. I've been pretty
serious about, you know, the grind process as far as
that we're rehabbing everything.
Speaker 5 (17:50):
So shout out to doctor Reef.
Speaker 12 (17:52):
I'm a head of schedule right now, trying to stay
there at this point. John Org a little smart. You know,
I'm a I'm a hard worker, so I try to
like put a lot on my plate one time, but
I'm trying to breathe it back a little bit. Just
be a little bit more smarter. And what was your
second question? Oh, I'm excited. I really look forward to it.
It's crazy because when you ask around, he has a
lot of similarities. Well people say through the Great Bonyax
a lot like Josh and you know that was my guy.
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So I'll look forward to meaning and connected with him.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
Oh, it's clear Drake May is going to have some
better options in New England. But he's not the only
second year player poised to make a jumb JJ McCarthy.
We're expecting some elevated production. We'll explain that. And the
latest on Aaron Rodgers a visit in Pittsburgh that's done,
What does it mean? And where he plays? What we
know is next on NFL Network back here on the Insiders. Oh,
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this made some buzz in the Big Apple. Russ is
going to be cooking with Brian Daball a one year,
ten and a half million dollar contracts. So let's consider
what this quarterback room looks like. It's Russ, it's Jamis
Winston who.
Speaker 7 (18:58):
Just got a two year deal, and it's I'my.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
De Vito, right is a brand new What are they thinking?
Adam rank is back with us right now with the cutlets.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
Man.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
You know I'm a Giants fan, and yeah, I enjoyed
my cutlets as well. All right, Adam, explain this to me.
Russ in a Giants uniform. What are they thinking?
Speaker 7 (19:17):
Yeah, one of the Giants thinking? You signed Jameis Winston.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
Who are you?
Speaker 13 (19:21):
Zach Morris all of a sudden asking two girls to
prom and now you don't know which one you're gonna take.
You're gonna go with Russell Wilson. But really, Adam more
upset for Elik Neighbors. I thought, with Jameis Winston in there,
we're going to see an opportunity for Elite Neighbors to
get like two hundred targets, and he was gonna go
out there and dominate the fantasy world. Instead we have
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Russell Wilson, who's gonna be out there ruining everything for everybody.
I was, I was, honestly, Mike, I was. I was
on the cusp of saying that Elik Neighbors should be
the first wide receiver off the board. Now with Russell Wilson,
I'm gonna I'm gonna dial it back in that I'm.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
Not quite there yet.
Speaker 13 (20:00):
I'm still very ambitious about in the Leak Neighbors this season.
I would have liked it a lot more with Jameis
Winston because Jamis loves to just focus in on one guy.
Jamis would have thrown for about four thousand yards, three
thousand of them going to the Lak Neighbors. Now, I
don't know what the Giants are thinking, but it's not
gonna be as fun.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
I'll tell you that.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
So rig you seem to think, and I can sort
of tell creeping into your deranged little brain over there,
that the Giants are not going to take a quarterback
in the draft because they did, as you mentioned, as
two girls to the promin Russell Wilson and Jameis Winston.
Speaker 13 (20:31):
So what are the Giants doing in the draft. Then
you know what I think the Giants are thinking. They're
gonna go with Astron genty because it's the only thing
that makes sense for the.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
New York Giants.
Speaker 13 (20:41):
I mean, obviously, nobody will ever do an offseason hard
knocks again because the Giants thinking was kind of exposed.
They let Saquon Berkley not even go to not just
go to the Philadelphia Eagles, go to the Philadelphia.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
Eagles and win a Super Bowl.
Speaker 13 (20:56):
So now they're gonna sit there and they're going to overreact,
like anybody that's gone to Atlantic City. You thought you
had a perfect system for blackjack, and then within twenty
minutes you lost all your money. You're going back to
the ATM trying to get it all back with one thing.
This is what the Giants are gonna do. They're gonna
go out there. They're gonna draft Ashton genty. Hope that
everybody forgets that Sakuan Barkley won a Super Bowl last year,
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go replace that production with the younger guy.
Speaker 7 (21:22):
I don't know, and I want to know what the.
Speaker 13 (21:24):
GM sun thinks because last year that was the kid
who was like, hey, draft draft Jade and Daniels and
he was ignored, and yet I want him to go
out there.
Speaker 7 (21:34):
I'm sorry, Mike, I know this isn't I know this
is bringing.
Speaker 13 (21:36):
Up trauma for you, but I think Ashton gent would
be They tried, they tried, Okay, they did try.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
They did.
Speaker 13 (21:43):
I'll tell you what hey, you know what, if they
want to trade down to ten, let the Bears come
up and take Ashton genty go. Then you could take
Jackson Dart at number ten, although you know what, the
Bears will maneuver around that and take out Dual Carter.
Oh wait, no, I'm playing out too many scenarios. I'm sorry.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
What am I thinking? There are a lot of scenarios.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
And by the way, I and you gave one of
those that the Giants might try to move up to
grab one of these quarterbacks on the heck, if Abdul
Carter gets taken in one of those first two picks,
maybe the g men get one of those guys. Complete
side note here, I thought it was always Kelly Kapowski.
I don't remember a second ask to the prom for
Zach Morris, So you and I can.
Speaker 7 (22:17):
All the one the girl there was there was like
didn't Tory go with him?
Speaker 3 (22:21):
Like were that difference?
Speaker 7 (22:23):
It's a weird season that.
Speaker 13 (22:26):
Doesn't make like toy the girl the leather jacket shows
up and the Kelly yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
Yeah, it's all about Kelly Kabowski. Just throwing that out there.
From my childhood days. Stefan Diggs, we heard from him, Adam,
he's now wearing a Patriots uniform. I feel like I'm
gonna get trouble when I get home for making that come.
Probably what are the Patriots thinking here?
Speaker 13 (22:46):
One of the Patriots? You know what, Actually, I think
the Patriots are on the right spot. I think they
needed to go out there and get some veteran leadership,
at least a veteran presence for Drake Mey. You got
to go out You cannot sit there and rely on
Kendrick Bourne to be your number one wide receiver. Hunter
Henry great players, but still you need a bona fide
number one wide receiver. And I still believe that Stefan
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Diggs could be that guy to Obviously, he suffered an
acl pierre last year, I think it was Week eight
against the Colts, goes out there, going through rehabit, doing
all that stuff. But now he comes up into a
pretty good situation. I think it's going to be great
for Drake May last year, a guy who's kind of overlooked,
you know, Jade Daniels obviously the rookie of the year.
Kayleb Williams now has the rebuilt offensive line. Don't sleep
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on Drake may what he's going to be able to
do with the New England Patriots. I think this is
a great move by both the player and the team.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
Let me take you in a little bit of a
different direction here, do for us a favor, peer into
the darkness and look into the future. For Aaron Rodgers
and the Pittsburgh Steelers. Obviously russ sins with the Giants,
Rodgers options are dwindling. It seem like the Vikings are
not focused on him right now. Where does it stand
with Rogers and the Steelers.
Speaker 13 (24:00):
This is a very interesting one because obviously I could
see it making sense for both for the Steelers and
Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
They need a quarterback, he needs a team.
Speaker 13 (24:08):
However, I think for Aaron Rodgers, the better thing, the
thing that he's probably trying to play, is the long game,
because if there is something that Aaron Rodgers loves is
skipping training camp and not being a part of it.
If he sits out, he kind of puts himself into
a position like Joe Flacco is in a couple of
years ago, where he doesn't report a training camp, doesn't
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play in the first couple of weeks of the season,
then all of a sudden, the Cleveland Browns need a quarterback.
He rides to the rescue. And if there is something
Aaron Rodgers loves more than missing training camp, it's being wanted,
being a hero, beating into his god complex that somebody's
gonna somebody's gonna come begging.
Speaker 7 (24:47):
You know.
Speaker 13 (24:47):
Aaron Rodgers is the same guy who that any time
you give like an e bye too is got to
hit maybe, I guess so people have to beg him
to show, Oh you're not gonna go to Kelly's party?
Why not please go? It's not the same. He is
that person and everybody knows somebody.
Speaker 3 (25:02):
Like how did we get here? How do we get here?
Find out?
Speaker 13 (25:06):
I'm bringing it full circle now. But I think that
he's waiting, and I think there might be an opportunity
that presents itself during the season. It feels like there
always is, so for Aaron Rodgers, he might not need
to take the first opportunity that comes his way. He
might be able to wait it out and find something
better later on.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
He might still a thing. I don't know. I'm an
old person though, which is fine.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
I just wanted to double check and make sure, I
mean warned a thing because I haven't gotten one in
a while, so I'm.
Speaker 7 (25:31):
Either that's friends particle or neither has rank.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
Yeah, okay, so the two of us are in the seon.
Speaker 7 (25:36):
I've never somebody had to describe what it is because
I've never been invited.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
To an maybrick.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
Okay, well, look at the analogy. Still worked for you,
Adam wore from you, and Ian coming up in just
a bit. Cam Ward, well, you know he balled out
this week at his pro day. He spoke to the
Titans website about being the top pick and said, quote,
I told them I'm solidifying it today. The quarterback might
have done exactly that. As for where some of our
mocks have Daniel Jeremiah, Charles Davis, and Bucky Brooks all
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sitting at number one for QB one, potentially for the
Tennessee Titans. For what it's worth, Lancerline has him going
third overall, and if I'm not mistaken, I don't know
which mocket was. It might have been Lance's last mock,
Shador Sanders, he has going twenty ninth overall. So Lance
might be looking at the quarterback position a little bit
differently than the rest of our experts. Getting back to
cam Ward Our Cam Wolfe was actually at his pro day,
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got a first hand seat to see some of those rows.
Not to mention you talked to him after practice. So
Cam lay the foundation for me for NFL teams that
were there, and there's certainly some good personnel that we're
watching some of these throws. What did that workout do
for his stock?
Speaker 14 (26:40):
Well, most of all, it checked another box that cam
Ward's likely to be the number one overall picking this draft.
Speaker 3 (26:45):
You alluded to it before. His confidence.
Speaker 14 (26:48):
There was a moment in that pro day where he
comes over to the Titans brass and says, I'm solidifying
gets to day. That's the composure of the confidence he's
shown throughout the cycle. He's been clear that he's the
best quarterback in the draft, and as a Michael has
going on, more and more teams have joined in that
consensus that cam Ward is the best quarterback in this class.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
And now the Titans have a decision.
Speaker 14 (27:08):
Do you sit there and take him at number one,
which seems to be the path they're going, or do
you continue to listen to offers for teams like the
New York Giants who were at that pro day, and
I saw Joe Shane, their general manager, talking to the
Titans general manager Mike Borganzi. Can they convince them with
enough draft capital to do a trade or do they
finally sit there and get their quarterback of the future.
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They had a private workout with cam Ward today. There's
about five or six people and valled them told including
their head coach Brian Callahan and their general manager, another
impressive showing for cam Ward and that they've got more
and more time with them. Sunday night before the Pro Day,
they met with them at Carbone Arrest of them are
down in South Florida and now they're doing another meeting here.
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It's just another checking of the box to convince themselves
no matter what they get after, can they still feel
comfortable taking cam Ward as their pick their quarterback.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
The more we do some of our mock draft lives,
the more you realize he's checking more and more boxes.
And you watch the film, Got Some You got a
tremendous arm talent, and I think it's subundantly obvious.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
And when we talk about him potentially going to the.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
Titans first overall, but cam when I think about the
state of Florida and college football players, I think straight
up athletes wide receiver, Elijah Badger.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
What do I need to know about him?
Speaker 14 (28:22):
Yeah, he's a guy that I've heard has been rising
up in teams boards, a guy who you probably thought,
maybe I can find him on Day three, maybe he
sneaks into Day two.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
And he's a guy we had his pro day earlier
this week.
Speaker 14 (28:32):
He's six two hundred pounds, runs a four to four
to three, and he transferred to Florida after three years
at Arizona State. Played with eleven quarterbacks throughout his tenure,
but he showed scouts on that pro day that he
can play inside at receiver, play outside receiver, and he
can run essentially any route that you want to do.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
I thought it was interesting hearing a little bit about
him in the process.
Speaker 14 (28:54):
He had dinner with the forty nine ers the night
before his pro day, a team that has IUK, that
has Ricky So, two guys he played with in college,
and also have a need with Deebo Samuel no longer there.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
He also privately met with the Saints.
Speaker 14 (29:07):
So as you're looking a longer draft weekend, as we
get into Friday, as you get into Saturday, keep an
eye on Elijah Badger. He also was a kick returner,
and as we think about the new kick return rules
that go upon, he had a lot of success in
Arizona State.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
In that role, so that could help him on draft weekend.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
A little bit of a speed sure as well. Cam,
You're always the best man. I always appreciate your and
fight insight and looking forward to having you back on
with us on Insiders next week. Meanwhile, speaking of the
NFL Draft and some really talented players that are available, well,
Penn State's got a tight end named Tyler Warren who
could be the first tight end taken in the NFL Draft.
One hundred and four receptions this past year, second at
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FBS play and a Penn State single season school record.
Did not participate in the drills at his pro day,
But here's how it stacks up according to Bucky Brooks
and those top five tight end prospects, not a huge
surprise to see Tyler Warren at the top of that list.
Brian Baldinger, we heard him earlier because he was hanging
out with Abduel Carter at that pro day.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
It turns out he found Warren too at.
Speaker 10 (30:06):
Penn State Pro day with tight end Tyler Warren Tyler,
what's it been like. I mean, you've been out here
supporting all your teammates out here today. In fact, you
didn't want to do any of this until they finished,
which I think is super cool.
Speaker 4 (30:16):
The teammate in you kind of comes out.
Speaker 15 (30:18):
Yeah, I think, you know, just being back, you know,
with this draft class and being around you know, the
Penn State family in general has been awesome. You know,
see him competing and just supporting him like you said,
But yeah, it's just been really fun to be around
the guys again and kind of have that team atmosphere.
Speaker 10 (30:30):
There's one word that everybody keeps describing the team. All right,
I'm throwing it at you, but they just said, he's
just a straight dog, like on the football field.
Speaker 4 (30:39):
Like, is that something that you just want to own?
You want to be that dog? Yeah?
Speaker 15 (30:43):
I feel like that's kind of the standard we have
in the tight end room. And it starts with Tay Howe.
Speaker 5 (30:46):
Right.
Speaker 15 (30:47):
I got here as a as a freshman, and I
had a little bit of it. My dad kind of
raised me to be like that. But then that's the
standard we expect when you played tight end at Penn State.
So I was just carrying on that standard and now
I know the guys below, Hi, we're gonna do the same.
Speaker 10 (30:59):
You honored your five great you know icon and John
Riggins wearing number forty four?
Speaker 7 (31:05):
Right?
Speaker 10 (31:05):
Are you gonna wear forty four in the next level here?
Tell or is that what you would like to do? Yeah?
Speaker 15 (31:10):
If that, if that opportunity is there, I would love to.
But but yeah, we'll see.
Speaker 10 (31:14):
Well, Rigo was a guy that just trucked people, and
you were known to do that when some of your
one hundred and four catchers this year. I mean, is
your style gonna change when you go to the NFL?
Speaker 15 (31:23):
Oh no, I mean I think obviously you get there,
there's there's room to grow and everything you do, right,
But I think kind of what got me to have
this opportunity of stuff I did like that, So I'll
definitely continue to do that and kind of be that
type of player. But also there is always gonna be
a room to grow.
Speaker 10 (31:35):
I was told Tyler that your best friend at Penn
State was Lufashan.
Speaker 15 (31:40):
Him that, Yeah, I have a lot. It's hard to say.
One b here's my roommate for you guys coming together. Yeah,
we came in the same class.
Speaker 3 (31:48):
That's that's my guy for sure.
Speaker 10 (31:49):
The Jets are picking number seven, Yeah, I mean they
might be in that tight end business. That wouldn't be
a bad place to go.
Speaker 15 (31:55):
Yeah, No, that'd be awesome. I know OLU loves it
and they got a great organization you know, out there
and in New York's that'd be fun.
Speaker 4 (32:01):
I think you know one thing that would say about
in Tyle.
Speaker 10 (32:04):
Obviously you can't one hundred four balls you have position versatility,
but I feel like you can be that true Why
tight end the line up at the end next to
or tackle and just take people.
Speaker 4 (32:15):
Off the wall?
Speaker 15 (32:17):
Yeah, I mean I think I think I try and
be a multiple position tight end that does a little
bit of everything. So I don't know if I'd be
stuck at at one, you know, being the true ey,
but I think that is something I can do along
with you know, all the other stuff that is.
Speaker 4 (32:27):
I'm the offense coordinator. I'm moving you all over the place.
You're my chest, peace man, I got you matched up all.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
Over, yes, sir?
Speaker 4 (32:33):
All right, listen, congratulations.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
All right, not the only pro day that we're going
to be at besides Penn State. How about this bringing
you the.
Speaker 3 (32:39):
Best of the latest top prospects.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
We're Boulder next Friday, April fourth, to hang with Stor
Sanders and Travis Hunter. By the way, it's the Colorado
Showcase two thirty on NFL Network and NFL Plus. All right, Baldy,
we just heard from it's been on record talking about
how deep this d line class is. Florida State d
tackle Josh Farmer top fifty player with a unique story, and.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
He joins us next. Nice seminal with Joshua Farmer. He's
the top fifty player for me. Effort, relax, not for nothing.
Speaker 11 (33:26):
Man.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
If I see that dude coming at me at that
speed making those noises, I am running off the field
as fast as possible. He's been a nightmare for quarterbacks.
And you heard DJ say the top fifty guy on
his list, Florida State defensive tackle Josh Farmer is with us. Hey,
I know you've been asked about the grunting and the
noises running down doing that forty.
Speaker 3 (33:45):
Just take me through it, Like, is that how you
normally sound when you're on the field. Yeah.
Speaker 16 (33:48):
Man, I go hard everything I do most of the time,
so I was trying to go hard as possible right now.
Speaker 3 (33:53):
Well, I do that a lot.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
It was a good time for you, and I know
it sort of went a little viral on social media,
so you grab some attention, but you grabbed attention from
what you've been able to do on the football field.
Just take me through holistically macro view for the audience
that hasn't been as blessed as you are physically to
go through this draft process. What's it actually like?
Speaker 3 (34:14):
Oh?
Speaker 16 (34:14):
Man, I'm just blessed with the opportunity and just blessed
to be here.
Speaker 4 (34:17):
It's been great everything.
Speaker 3 (34:18):
I could imagine.
Speaker 16 (34:19):
I've been able to separate myself from the other guys
very quickly and very often. I'm just blessed to be here. Man,
It's everything I could imagine. Just put my head down
and working and God did the rest. Man, it's been.
Speaker 3 (34:31):
Great, Josh.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
You know, I was down at ACC media Day last year,
and I know there was so much hype around your
squad ACC Champs two seasons ago, and I know this
year didn't necessarily play out the way that you and
your teammates had hoped for.
Speaker 3 (34:43):
But those are football lessons.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
What do you take away from the last two campaigns
that prepares you for Sunday?
Speaker 5 (34:49):
Ball.
Speaker 3 (34:50):
Yeah, man, I just think it helped build my character.
Speaker 16 (34:52):
Man, I've been at the top ACC Championship and I've
been at the bottom. So I went through it all
and I know how I feel. It's not a week
I didn't think we were going to win. So just
definitely just helped build my character.
Speaker 13 (35:04):
Man.
Speaker 16 (35:06):
Everything happened for a region, and I thank god I
went through it because you know, I'm just I feel
like I'm tougher than ever now.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
You know, Josh, you have a little bit of a
cheat code because you can lean on some guys that
have gone through this process very recently that you had
success with on the football field. A couple of your
teammates first and second round guys in Verse and Fisk.
What are those conversations like as there I'm sure helping
you through this draft process.
Speaker 16 (35:31):
Yes, sir, Yeah, both of them has been great helps,
especially Fits. He just told me I'm ready and I'm
built for it, and just keep the main thing the
main thing, and be attentional with the small details because
that's what it's going to separate me. So he said,
I'm ready, and I think I'm ready and I'm ready
to do it.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
What do you want NFL teams to know about you
because they can watch the film and see how productive
you were. But you as a person, what's that message?
Speaker 16 (35:54):
Are you getting a you know, a violent, a tough,
relentless defensive topple that hasn't stratched the surface and every
day to learn the right to be there in the NFL?
And you know, you know, I'm just tough from physical
and I'm violent, and I think I'm going to help
them add great value to a defensive line room.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
Josh, I know you talk about that violent play on
the field, but I know some of the things that
you do off and in a lot of respects a
little bit of a giant Eddy bear as well.
Speaker 3 (36:17):
Although maybe you don't want NFL teams to necessarily know that,
But I think your story is so unique.
Speaker 1 (36:23):
You you know, unfortunately lost your parents at a really
young age. You're going to hear your name called in
the NFL draft, and probably a lot earlier than most.
What is that moment going to mean to you and
your family?
Speaker 4 (36:35):
Yeah? Man, it means a lot.
Speaker 16 (36:36):
On what I've been through and what I've overcame, you know,
it was very challenging, but it just makes me better,
you know. It makes things better on the field when
I go through something tough on the field and challenging.
Speaker 3 (36:45):
I don't been through the worst, man. Well it could
be worse than losing your parents at a young age.
Speaker 16 (36:48):
So you know, you know, it's not just big for
my family, but it's gonna be big for other kids
man that's been through what I've been through, and other
kids that think they can't make it. I'm here to
tell them, you know, just keep God first, and keep working,
and keep your head down and just take every opportunity
you can and just take advantage of him.
Speaker 5 (37:04):
Man.
Speaker 16 (37:04):
So I'm just blessed to be here. I can't imagine
no not having God in my life. I'm just truly
blessed through.
Speaker 1 (37:12):
You know, Josh once again an inspiring story, super productive
as a player, but knowing the impact that you're having
on your siblings as well, not to mention the community
around you, Wishing nothing.
Speaker 3 (37:21):
But the best of luck.
Speaker 1 (37:22):
I once again a top fifty guy according to our
draft expert and Daniel Jeremiah can't wait to see where
you end up man and.
Speaker 3 (37:28):
Have a great NFL career.
Speaker 4 (37:30):
Yeah, so I appreciate you.
Speaker 1 (37:31):
Sam Darnold, Yeah, he's gone Minnesota, though they got JJ McCarthy,
who's drafted tenth overall.
Speaker 3 (37:37):
Last year.
Speaker 1 (37:37):
No General manager Quis saidofo Mensa saying of a second
year quarterback being QB one for the franchise. Quote, that's
the outcome we want, and that's the outcome we're headed towards.
Speaker 3 (37:47):
Jeffrey Shdia is.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
With us right now, and Jeffrey, it feels like when
you talk about second year guys, it's sort of obvious
right that we could point to JJ McCarthy as a
dude who can break out because we didn't really see him,
and you're number one, and he's going to get ample opportunity.
Speaker 3 (38:00):
Sell me on this, dude. Well, I'll tell you, I
know that Jason McCarthy's work.
Speaker 9 (38:04):
He season didn't go the way he wanted to go,
but I can tell you this team was very excited
about direction, the direction he was going in before he
got hurt, and Questiadolphi Menzel was saying that. Kevin O'Connell,
the head coach, was saying that. And so even though
he was knocked out of his first year, that year
played out pretty well for him because he got to
sit and watch and learn and they love, his leadership,
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his maturity. He was only twenty one years old when
he got this. You know, he had to grow. Didn't
do a lot of throwing into the football at Michigan.
But I think he's going to break out because he's got.
Speaker 3 (38:33):
A great head coach.
Speaker 9 (38:34):
He's got Justin Jefferson, Jordan Addison, all those weapons, a
great defense, the same thing Sam Donald had he will
have in his offense. And you will see a pretty
good player in Jays McCarthy this coming season as a result.
Speaker 1 (38:46):
Yeah, it's kind of wild. Then, look, I get it,
they're not the same player. But Sam Donald there was
a lot of questions about what he could do when
he got to Minnesota, and we're talking about a guy
that was on the shortlist for one of the best
players in the NFL and certainly was paid that way.
Speaker 3 (38:58):
From the Seattle perspective.
Speaker 1 (39:00):
Zever Worthy made so much noise and buzz because of
that forty time at the Combine, had a really good
rookie campaign. He's flashed on the field off the field
with the way that his garage looks. I know you
and I were talking about that in our commercial break
that was posted on social media.
Speaker 3 (39:13):
But why can this guy find another gear.
Speaker 9 (39:17):
Or he's got the speed, he's got the ability, but
with anything he's developed. And Andy Reid, the Chiefs head
coach and Gerald manager bred beeach really liked the way
he came along. They thought he was just going to
be a speed guy when he showed up. But because
of circumstances, was she Rice getting hurt, Hollywood Brown getting hurt.
He had more opportunities to show what he could do
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in the full route tree, and by the end of
the season he was their main target as far as
wide receivers went, and in the last three meaningful games
they played he had thirty targets, had a huge game
against Buffalt in the playoffs, and even though they got
blown out in the Super Bowl against Philadelphia, he was
the only guy receiver making plays there. So, going into
the year two where she Rice Mike probably gonna get suspended,
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Hollywood Brown's come being back with this guy, all say,
if you're worthy, it's going to get a lot of
targets and a lot of opportunities to keep making blaze.
Speaker 1 (40:04):
Yeah, there's so many times just kind of watching him
on the football field where that display was, that speed
was on full display. I mean just vertically down the
football field and you saw him home just sort of
like lean back and heave it up and you're like,
there's going.
Speaker 3 (40:17):
To be overthrown, and it wasn't because he's that fast.
Speaker 1 (40:19):
Jeffrey always good to get your context on everything that's
happening around the NFL. We've been bouncing all around the
country bringing you some of the best most talented players
in those individual pro days. Well, guess what We're on
Boulder next Friday, April fourth, to hang with Shendar Sanders
and Travis Hunter. It's his NFL Showcase at two thirty Eastern,
(40:40):
NFL Network and NFL Plus. Meanwhile, pafter the draft, Yeah,
it's back. Are experts taking inside the film room to
show you which prospects are rising to the top of
the draft boards. It all starts Monday six Eastern NFL
Network and streaming on NFL Plus. You know there's one
dude in the offseason who doesn't miss a whole lot
of work out. How about this one of the new
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editions of the Pittsburgh Steelers. Oh, DK, dude's just a
physical specimen. I mean, what he's able to do is
is truly remarkable. And the guy looks like kind of
a Greek god when he's out on the football field. Now,
a very different type of look is Desmond Watson on
the bench. Now, he looks big here, and you see
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some of these numbers. I just want to highlight where
it says weight four hundred and sixty four not a typo,
not a typo that is very accurate. Give you some
context on this Ian Makaia Becton plus one hundred pounds,
Leonard Williams plus Savior Worthy together four hundred and sixty
four pounds. I mean, this dude's an absolute monster. Like
we're not the biggest dudes out there. Like that's multiple
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me and yous together like a whole lot. And the
guy's got hops twenty five inch fir like it's just one.
Speaker 2 (41:51):
I mean that's like watching him bench press is like,
obviously it's a big, strong dude. That's not a surprise.
This is the surprise. Watch this big man get up.
I mean, I actually was surprised at the lack of
reaction from those scouts.
Speaker 11 (42:05):
There.
Speaker 2 (42:05):
You see twenty plus inches on the vertical from this
enormous dude who's still a really good athlete. How come
everybody didn't lose their brains. Where is the reaction? This
is a big deal, right
Speaker 3 (42:17):
I'm with you, Ian, it's remarkable get up
Coming upon Insider's the speculation on what the Falcons will
do with Kirk Cousins is creating social media drama. Could
a fast food restaurant unlock the answers to the quarterback's
next destination? Speaking of not having answers, Aaron Rodgers his
future in the NFL, it's still in question. We're not
doing a darkness retreat, but one of our experts gets
down to the bottom of what's he thinking, and Abdul
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Carter has moved quarterbacks to the grounds with ease. We'll
slide past that quarterback conversation and talk to the Penn
State star who could be the best player in this
year's drafts, And with that we welcome you to Insiders.
Mike yam Ian Rappaport. No, it's not Tom Pallisero, Michi
or Judy Batista. I wouldn't go as far as to
say that Tom has better hair than me, but Lord
knows me and he's got more volume, So I will
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try to do my best here.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
You have way better hair. Tom doesn't even have good hair. Oh,
I mean, let's just be honest right.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
To This is why I in I love working with you,
thrill when I heard it was going to be me
and you today. There is a times just be real exactly,
there's a ton to get to take texting me in
about two seconds, there's probably no doubt, and I'll probably
get an angry text as well, and he'll probably show
me how much product he's using to make sure that
he gets that volume. A ton to get to for us,
And certainly looking forward to your take on all of
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these stories that surrounds maybe the number one pick in
this year's draft, cam Ward.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
We watch them have a stellar pro day this week.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
That momentum has carried into a private workout with the Titans,
who owned the number one overall pick. You know, break
this down for me, what do we need to know
about Tennessee and they're thinking about potentially their new QB one.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
But what the Tennessee Titans are doing is really going
through a thorough evaluation process, not just trying to figure
out is cam Ward the number one overall pick for them?
But are they even gonna make the number one overall
pick they have cam Ward today? Obviously they were very
famously at his pro day a couple of days ago.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
In fact, remember when.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Cam Ward threw a dime down the field, came over
to Titans brass and basically said, I'm the guy for you.
In other words, pick me at number one. Now they
are just not there yet. They also, by the way,
are going to do a private workout with Shador Sanders
after his pro day, so that is going to be
in a couple of weeks. And really what they want
to find out are either of these guys worthy of
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number one.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
If the answer is yes, then it is simple.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Likely take cam Ward, here's their franchise quarterback in the
Tennessee who had a really tough year last year. Have
a new general manager in a second year, a coach,
and Brian Callahan can just move forward like that. If
they do not believe that either players worthy of number one,
then likely they would look to trade. And they are
going to have several teams interested. The Giants would potentially
be one, the Saints would potentially be one. The Titans
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have time, They're trying to do a thorough process and
figure it out. I would say it's likely that they
make the number one pick pick right now, but.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
That is not for certain.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
And by the way, more context on this story coming up,
and just a big cam Wolfe was actually at that
pro day. So more on cam Ward coming up here
on Insiders. Not the only quarterback though that could be
taken in the first round. In fact, Jackson Dart is
now creating a little bit of buzz had his pro day.
This is a guy who's had plenty of splash plays
playing for Lane Kiffin at Ole Miss.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
Three year starter through for over.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
Ten thousand yards, seventy two touchdowns, ran for twelve more
ian what's the general conversation been like when you hear
Jackson Dart and NFL teams.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Well, first of all, let's get to the NFL teams, right,
because obviously Jackson Dart put on a show today. There
was a lot of wild plays in college. There's a
lot of wild throws today. Sounded like overall extremely extremely
positive for Jackson Dart.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
But of note for me at least, was who was there?
Speaker 4 (03:39):
Right?
Speaker 2 (03:40):
I mean, because we all talked about which coaches at
tend and you know, obviously so many high ranking officials
were at cam Wards Frodie, but Kevin Stefanski, the Browns
head coach, he was at Jackson Darts pro day. Shaye Tierney,
the Giants quarterback coach, he also was there. Kellen Moore,
the Saints head coach, all there for Jackson Dart doesn't
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seem right now, we'll see, doesn't seem like he's going
to crack into the top two of quarterbacks, but certainly
very much in the conversation for who the third quarterback
is going to be. And you know, look, if you
asked NFL personnel right now he said, where does he rank?
I think a lot of people would say, you know,
maybe second round. Usually if you're a quarterback and you
got game, and Jackson Dart does, if your second round quarterback,
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you probably end up in the first round. We saw
the same thing with bo Nicks last year, ended up
going early one at a time when no one thought
he would be able to. This is a guy in
Jackson Duard who I would say this, It seems like him.
If he is quarterback three, I wouldn't be surprised at
all if he's the first round. And then those teams
I mentioned before, Kabili can trade back into one to
come get it.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
Yeah, it's wild. Last year and you made a reference
to we saw bon Nix Goo twelfth.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Overall a historic run of those quarterbacks in that first round,
with six going in those first full picks.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
Probably not going to see that this year.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
But to your point, if you need a quarterback, probably
have to take Jackson guard at some point in the
first round.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
He's got that moxy too.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
If you've seen a lot of he's on this game,
it's not shy about talking out on that football field. Meanwhile, sure,
Shadre Sanders and Camboard could be the first two qbs
off the board. Now we talked earlier about cam Ward
and that work out with the Titans. He's already met
with the Browns as Shador Sanders will.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
Do the same.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
Cleveland's leader plays on the defensive side of Miles Garrett.
He knows well they need someone.
Speaker 5 (05:21):
Any team that's going to go far and needs as
a quarterback and you know one that that's young can
can learn. Is it's willing to uh you know, be
patient with the process and uh you know he's not
a deterred or discouraged early on. There's going to be
some bumps in the road. It's gonna be some some
learning pains, but no, no, US as a team as
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an organization has to be able to uh be a
landing pad from you know, the fall back on and
uh you know, being able to be on the defensive
side and uh help him out whenever no things go wrong.
That that's that's crucial. That's not for just for a
young quarterback. That's for veterans and guys who've been here
for for a while.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
You say, veterans, I got one for you. So there's
been a little buzz here on social media. Cleveland might
have their eyes on another quarterback. Her cousin's seen at
a Cleveland Chipotle. Now, Ian, I know you'll be able
to tell us what it means from a football perspective,
but let's get real here. There's another layer to this story.
And our GMFB team revealed that when.
Speaker 6 (06:23):
I hear double chick and I cringe because if I
know Kirk, you got to know the hack at Chipotle
on how to order twice the amount of me on.
You never ever say I would like a bowl with
double steak or burrito with double barbakoa. No, what you
say is, sir, ma'am, I would like a steak burrito,
and then they give you the full single.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
Portion of steak, full spoonful.
Speaker 7 (06:46):
Then just is there about to move it over to
the next day?
Speaker 3 (06:49):
You know, I say, you know what let's make it
a double portion.
Speaker 8 (06:52):
You will end up with more when you order double
from the get go, something in their head says, all right,
one of these doubles. I'm just gonna but they'll give
you the full single word. And then, by the way,
also works.
Speaker 7 (07:02):
At the bar.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
Ian your thoughts are you a double meat guy?
Speaker 2 (07:09):
I would never order double meat out a Chipole. I
like Chipotle, by the way, they do a great job,
and I would never order double meat. Now talking at
the bar order a double that actually can happen from
time to time, the same rules do not apply. I
really appreciate Kyle Brand's breakdown. And if anyone anyone knows
how to gain the system at a place like Chipotle,
it's Kyle brandt.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
Well, let me get to the other topic here. I
have a couple of years.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
First of all, when Miles Garrett speaks, when Miles Garrett
talks about the quarterback.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
Position, that is meaningful, that is significant.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
The reason I say that, of course, is Miles Garrett
very famously ask the Browns to trade him Roll in
the offseason, ended up coming back listening to the team's pitch.
Listen to their explanation. Plus forty million dollars per year
also helped. But listen to their explanation about how they're
going to get back to being competitive. When he speaks
about them drafting the young quarterback and being willing to
let this quarterback clarent, this sounds like someone who's heard
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exactly that from Cleveland Brown's brass. That is why when
Miles Garrett talks about them taking to quarterback a rookie quarterback,
I would say this, I would listen, now, is it
going to be at two? We don't know, is it
going to be in the second round or betrayed up early?
And if we don't know, but certainly does seem like
that potentially could be the case. The Kirk Cousins factor
here is fascinating as well, because the Browns had mentioned
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one of the teams that's maybe been interested in Kirk Cousins.
But here's what I would say on kirk Cousins obviously
has the huge contract. He has one hundred million dollars
guaranteed by the Atlanta Falcons over a couple of years.
I believe it's ninety fully over the first two years
of his deal. The new team acquiring the contract is
not going to pay that forget that number.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
That's not important. The Falcons are ready on the hook
for that. The question is.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
If your new team acquiring Cousins and the Browns certainly
would make sense, as would a couple other teams. What
the facts are going to try to get you to
do is take some of it. How much is it
twenty million, is at ten?
Speaker 3 (09:01):
Is it five?
Speaker 2 (09:02):
How much the new team pays will obviously affect what
draft pick they're willing to send the Falcons four Cousins.
It's sort of a sliding scale. We don't even know
right now if the Falcons end up trading him, but
the actual money on the contract doesn't matter. Just how
much is the new team willing to take on.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Glad you have another that context not only on your order,
but also on the dollars and cents with regard to
Kirk Cousins. Now we're having this conversation about what some
of these teams at the top of the draft might
be thinking, especially at quarterback. Turns out there's actually a
defensive player who might be the best of the entire group.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Darn Underneath lost the football.
Speaker 9 (09:39):
He got hit by a dual carter to the twenty
six dual Carter, the defensive player of the Year of
the Big Ten.
Speaker 7 (09:51):
Nowhere to go.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
Boy, look at up dual Carter lacerating that offensive front
got pretty sacked on the way back to the series.
Let's get a special.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Man look for this entire conversation about the Titans. And
if it's cam Ward, maybe a quarterback Lance Zerline, who
I work with on Mock Draft Live h going on
his mock with the Titans taking a duel Carter going
some defense. The point is, even if it's not the Titans,
according to all of our experts, he's not going to
have to wait all that long to hear his name called.
Today was his Pro day and our guy Brian Baldinger
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was able to track him down.
Speaker 10 (10:26):
I'll duel Carter Penn State Pro Day. It's here, it's coming,
and it's here. You're not your support, your players out
here and your friends and your teammates here today. But
what's it been like for you? It's been dope just
being there. I wish I was out here competing, That's
what I want to do. But to be nirous for
my brothers seem to make their money, getting their time,
see the seeing everything they worked for, coming to fruition.
Speaker 4 (10:45):
So it's been dope for me.
Speaker 10 (10:47):
Well speaking times, I mean, I saw you with the
stompotch like, I mean, you look like your scout out
here timing your guys today.
Speaker 4 (10:53):
Man, Now, anybody blow you away with her time?
Speaker 11 (10:55):
Definitely? Jaalen Kimber. He probably was the start of the
day right now, Kimaru or three twice. But I've seen
him working in Texas. Ive seen all alongst everybody's seeing
his results right now, but I've seen him working in Texas,
So it's alidough for him.
Speaker 4 (11:07):
What do people want to know about you?
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Do?
Speaker 10 (11:08):
Like you had these interviews here, They'm whining and dining
you all these different teams.
Speaker 4 (11:13):
What do they want to know?
Speaker 10 (11:14):
Because when I turn the tape on, there's a kid
that loves football, Like is that?
Speaker 4 (11:18):
Honestly? All they should know how much you love it.
Speaker 11 (11:21):
Everything else is important, like the off the field stuff
like who I am as a person and things like that.
But the end of the day, I just love football,
love playing, love competing.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
At the end of the day, what was it like
here these three years for y'all? Do I mean?
Speaker 10 (11:31):
This has been a very successful period here at Penn
State for in the history of Penn State football. It's
been a really nice period of time. Did it feel
like Happy Valley to you?
Speaker 4 (11:41):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (11:41):
I loved there.
Speaker 4 (11:41):
Penn State was none but good to me.
Speaker 11 (11:43):
Just my whole process here, just obviously on the field,
my growth as a player. But the main thing I
see is, like off the field, how I grew as
a person, like as a teammates, as a person in
the locker.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
Room, Like my maturity.
Speaker 11 (11:54):
I feel like I was a little bit selfish coming
in and getting out of my system throughout my first
three years here, having time for coach in so many
ways where I was just mature as a man and
as a player.
Speaker 4 (12:03):
And as a player.
Speaker 10 (12:04):
You came here as a linebacker, you wanted to be
a linebacker, end up kind of going to the edge.
But you really can play anywhere. Like wherever they put you,
is that is that? Would you say You're it's positioned
as football? Wherever they put up. Due, I'm here to
make plays. I could play offense too.
Speaker 11 (12:19):
I saw you throwing the ball. You need a little
work on that. I can throw it, I can get
it to where you. I can put it on the money,
all right, So I know I'm listen. So I saw
Chop Robinson here, last year's number one pick. He said,
last year he ran a four to fury and he said,
you're faster than him. So if you did run, I'll
doing what kind of time might we have seen? Yeah,
I will say on four to three and I would
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have put it on paper, but I didn't work out.
But he say, he said I'm faster than him.
Speaker 10 (12:43):
Yeah, okay, that's surprised you've done yet.
Speaker 11 (12:46):
Now I'm surprised he admitted that. But I already kne
I'm surprised he admitted that.
Speaker 10 (12:50):
All right, I'm doing listen, congratulations, good luck to you. Uh,
it's been a fun process for you, or how would
you describe this?
Speaker 11 (12:57):
It's definitely been a fun, been a grind, but it's
all worth it. So living in my drem go live
outside dream brother apprecire, all right, nice talking to you.
Speaker 7 (13:05):
All right.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
A lot to unpack there.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
And by the way, Chopp was a freak azoid at
the combine, so the fact that he's saying Duel Carter
is faster than him is noteworthy. More from Baldy, by
the way, coming up in just a bit, Tyler Warren,
who might be the first tight end taken in this
year's draft.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
He goes one on one with him in just a moment.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
But there's a reason why we don't have the official
forty time from Abdul Carter coming off of an injury,
didn't work out in his pro day. How does that affect,
if at all, in his draft prospects.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
First of all, Abdul Carter is going to go early,
right you mentioned him with all the teams in the
top five. I would be stunned if he fell out
of the top five. Really, the question is, though, where
does he go freak athlete? All this stuff about his
feed that was all real, But there are going to
be some questions for NFL teams, specifically about medical. We
know that he dealt with his shoulder injury, showed a
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lot of toughness late in the season playing to a
pretty significant shoulder injury that has taken some time to
heal and was the reason that he originally was not
sleated to work out of the Combine. Then he met
with Combine medical officials, met with doctors and they discovered
a little bit of a stress reaction. You'd call it
a stress fracture, but it's not as significant as that
on his foot so they pulled him back and they
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were discussing whether or not to have surgery.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
My understanding was.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
It was a very small spot, it was not causing
him pain, so they opted not to have surgery. That said,
they have a great player with a couple of medical
questions who hasn't worked out.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
Teams are going to have to do their homework.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
And if you pick him in the top five, which
again I expect him to be picked in the top five,
there's always going to be a little bit of uncertainty.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
There's nothing wrong here. He's going to be fine, but
you'd like.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
A sure thing, and as of right now, it's a
small bit.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
Less than that.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
Okay, other news to get to. I saw this hit
the inbox a little while ago. I look for all
the conversation we have about quarterbacks in anyone when you
got a good coach, you make sure that he's not
going anywhere. Baltimore, they got one John Harbaugh, who gets
an extension.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
Yeah, big time extension, lucrative extension for John Harball. He
gets a three year deal, was actually going into the
last year of his deal, which you know, can create
some drama, can create some discussion. Not like he's in
any trouble. But I'm just saying, when you're going into
the last year of your deal, there's always a talk.
And so what they did was they ended a talk.
They made him very richly paid, as he has already been.
(15:20):
My understanding is the extent is actually extension is actually
north of his brother Jim, which should be interesting conversation.
He at various tables during holiday time. He is now
locked in through twenty twenty eight. It's going to be
interesting to see what when the Baltimore Ravens address the
a status of general manager Eric Tacosta, also going into
the last year of his deal. They have enjoyed an
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incredible six year run together. Would imagine that would be
the next thing for Baltimore to tackle.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
But a big day for the head coach today.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
I wonder if John goes to the negotiating room and says,
you know what, just one dollar more than Jim, Just
one dollar more is all I need. Possibly, well, looks
like he is going to get a little bit more.
Not the only the coach that's getting an extension and
getting paid. He might be the biggest attraction on all
of college football, player or coach. And yes, I'm talking
about Prime, who gets a five year, fifty four million
dollar contract extension by CU. So he's not going anywhere
(16:13):
in terms of staying with the Buffs. What's the fallout
ian from an NFL perspective with for Prime?
Speaker 2 (16:21):
If you say not going anywhere, and I would agree,
it sounds like he's not going anywhere. Five year extension,
massive deal ten point eight million dollars were the highest
paid coaches in college football, and he is worth it.
I mean, the popularity of Colorado football has gone through
the stratosphere since coach Prime took over. And you know,
his name was mentioned a little bit, I would say,
by some people in conjunction with the Dallas Cowboys head
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coaching job this year. Obviously that went to Brian Schottenhammer.
That was never a real thing, but it did sort
of lead to some discussions about his new deal. But
here's what I know. I know the NFL world, I
know the gossip circles. Whoever drafts Shador Sanders, if that
team ends up struggling, you're going to say, hey, what
about coach Prime. Yes, I know he signed a five
year deal, but it's not going to stop the discussion.
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I think the main thing for him, He gets paid
his salary that he deserved. It's a very good day
to be Dion Sanders. But this is not going to
quiet any of this talk for next year. I'll just
tell you that.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
Yeah, and maybe a little less on the negative recruiting
for some of the competition out there saying hey, Prime's
out the door. I can help me say, hey, yeah,
five year deal not going anywhere. Whether or not that's
actually accurate or not, at least he can go and
officially say that. Ian more from you in just a
moment here on the insiders. But also need to update
everyone on what's happening with this dude, because when he's healthy,
it's fun. Dig's one of the best wide receivers in
the NFL. Drake may Well, his team just leveled up.
(17:36):
Patriots sagree to a three year, sixty nine million dollar
deal with the wide receiver.
Speaker 4 (17:42):
I'm a head a schedule.
Speaker 12 (17:43):
I'm trying to stay ahead of schedule. I've been pretty
serious about, you know, the grind process as far as
that we're rehabbing everything.
Speaker 5 (17:50):
So shout out to doctor Reef.
Speaker 12 (17:52):
I'm a head of schedule right now, trying to stay
there at this point. John Org a little smart. You know,
I'm a I'm a hard worker, so I try to
like put a lot on my plate one time, but
I'm trying to breathe it back a little bit. Just
be a little bit more smarter. And what was your
second question? Oh, I'm excited. I really look forward to it.
It's crazy because when you ask around, he has a
lot of similarities. Well people say through the Great Bonyax
a lot like Josh and you know that was my guy.
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So I'll look forward to meaning and connected with him.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
Oh, it's clear Drake May is going to have some
better options in New England. But he's not the only
second year player poised to make a jumb JJ McCarthy.
We're expecting some elevated production. We'll explain that. And the
latest on Aaron Rodgers a visit in Pittsburgh that's done,
What does it mean? And where he plays? What we
know is next on NFL Network back here on the Insiders. Oh,
(18:46):
this made some buzz in the Big Apple. Russ is
going to be cooking with Brian Daball a one year,
ten and a half million dollar contracts. So let's consider
what this quarterback room looks like. It's Russ, it's Jamis
Winston who.
Speaker 7 (18:58):
Just got a two year deal, and it's I'my.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
De Vito, right is a brand new What are they thinking?
Adam rank is back with us right now with the cutlets.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
Man.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
You know I'm a Giants fan, and yeah, I enjoyed
my cutlets as well. All right, Adam, explain this to me.
Russ in a Giants uniform. What are they thinking?
Speaker 7 (19:17):
Yeah, one of the Giants thinking? You signed Jameis Winston.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
Who are you?
Speaker 13 (19:21):
Zach Morris all of a sudden asking two girls to
prom and now you don't know which one you're gonna take.
You're gonna go with Russell Wilson. But really, Adam more
upset for Elik Neighbors. I thought, with Jameis Winston in there,
we're going to see an opportunity for Elite Neighbors to
get like two hundred targets, and he was gonna go
out there and dominate the fantasy world. Instead we have
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Russell Wilson, who's gonna be out there ruining everything for everybody.
I was, I was, honestly, Mike, I was. I was
on the cusp of saying that Elik Neighbors should be
the first wide receiver off the board. Now with Russell Wilson,
I'm gonna I'm gonna dial it back in that I'm.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
Not quite there yet.
Speaker 13 (20:00):
I'm still very ambitious about in the Leak Neighbors this season.
I would have liked it a lot more with Jameis
Winston because Jamis loves to just focus in on one guy.
Jamis would have thrown for about four thousand yards, three
thousand of them going to the Lak Neighbors. Now, I
don't know what the Giants are thinking, but it's not
gonna be as fun.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
I'll tell you that.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
So rig you seem to think, and I can sort
of tell creeping into your deranged little brain over there,
that the Giants are not going to take a quarterback
in the draft because they did, as you mentioned, as
two girls to the promin Russell Wilson and Jameis Winston.
Speaker 13 (20:31):
So what are the Giants doing in the draft. Then
you know what I think the Giants are thinking. They're
gonna go with Astron genty because it's the only thing
that makes sense for the.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
New York Giants.
Speaker 13 (20:41):
I mean, obviously, nobody will ever do an offseason hard
knocks again because the Giants thinking was kind of exposed.
They let Saquon Berkley not even go to not just
go to the Philadelphia Eagles, go to the Philadelphia.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
Eagles and win a Super Bowl.
Speaker 13 (20:56):
So now they're gonna sit there and they're going to overreact,
like anybody that's gone to Atlantic City. You thought you
had a perfect system for blackjack, and then within twenty
minutes you lost all your money. You're going back to
the ATM trying to get it all back with one thing.
This is what the Giants are gonna do. They're gonna
go out there. They're gonna draft Ashton genty. Hope that
everybody forgets that Sakuan Barkley won a Super Bowl last year,
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go replace that production with the younger guy.
Speaker 7 (21:22):
I don't know, and I want to know what the.
Speaker 13 (21:24):
GM sun thinks because last year that was the kid
who was like, hey, draft draft Jade and Daniels and
he was ignored, and yet I want him to go
out there.
Speaker 7 (21:34):
I'm sorry, Mike, I know this isn't I know this
is bringing.
Speaker 13 (21:36):
Up trauma for you, but I think Ashton gent would
be They tried, they tried, Okay, they did try.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
They did.
Speaker 13 (21:43):
I'll tell you what hey, you know what, if they
want to trade down to ten, let the Bears come
up and take Ashton genty go. Then you could take
Jackson Dart at number ten, although you know what, the
Bears will maneuver around that and take out Dual Carter.
Oh wait, no, I'm playing out too many scenarios. I'm sorry.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
What am I thinking? There are a lot of scenarios.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
And by the way, I and you gave one of
those that the Giants might try to move up to
grab one of these quarterbacks on the heck, if Abdul
Carter gets taken in one of those first two picks,
maybe the g men get one of those guys. Complete
side note here, I thought it was always Kelly Kapowski.
I don't remember a second ask to the prom for
Zach Morris, So you and I can.
Speaker 7 (22:17):
All the one the girl there was there was like
didn't Tory go with him?
Speaker 3 (22:21):
Like were that difference?
Speaker 7 (22:23):
It's a weird season that.
Speaker 13 (22:26):
Doesn't make like toy the girl the leather jacket shows
up and the Kelly yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
Yeah, it's all about Kelly Kabowski. Just throwing that out there.
From my childhood days. Stefan Diggs, we heard from him, Adam,
he's now wearing a Patriots uniform. I feel like I'm
gonna get trouble when I get home for making that come.
Probably what are the Patriots thinking here?
Speaker 13 (22:46):
One of the Patriots? You know what, Actually, I think
the Patriots are on the right spot. I think they
needed to go out there and get some veteran leadership,
at least a veteran presence for Drake Mey. You got
to go out You cannot sit there and rely on
Kendrick Bourne to be your number one wide receiver. Hunter
Henry great players, but still you need a bona fide
number one wide receiver. And I still believe that Stefan
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Diggs could be that guy to Obviously, he suffered an
acl pierre last year, I think it was Week eight
against the Colts, goes out there, going through rehabit, doing
all that stuff. But now he comes up into a
pretty good situation. I think it's going to be great
for Drake May last year, a guy who's kind of overlooked,
you know, Jade Daniels obviously the rookie of the year.
Kayleb Williams now has the rebuilt offensive line. Don't sleep
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on Drake may what he's going to be able to
do with the New England Patriots. I think this is
a great move by both the player and the team.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
Let me take you in a little bit of a
different direction here, do for us a favor, peer into
the darkness and look into the future. For Aaron Rodgers
and the Pittsburgh Steelers. Obviously russ sins with the Giants,
Rodgers options are dwindling. It seem like the Vikings are
not focused on him right now. Where does it stand
with Rogers and the Steelers.
Speaker 13 (24:00):
This is a very interesting one because obviously I could
see it making sense for both for the Steelers and
Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
They need a quarterback, he needs a team.
Speaker 13 (24:08):
However, I think for Aaron Rodgers, the better thing, the
thing that he's probably trying to play, is the long game,
because if there is something that Aaron Rodgers loves is
skipping training camp and not being a part of it.
If he sits out, he kind of puts himself into
a position like Joe Flacco is in a couple of
years ago, where he doesn't report a training camp, doesn't
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play in the first couple of weeks of the season,
then all of a sudden, the Cleveland Browns need a quarterback.
He rides to the rescue. And if there is something
Aaron Rodgers loves more than missing training camp, it's being wanted,
being a hero, beating into his god complex that somebody's
gonna somebody's gonna come begging.
Speaker 7 (24:47):
You know.
Speaker 13 (24:47):
Aaron Rodgers is the same guy who that any time
you give like an e bye too is got to
hit maybe, I guess so people have to beg him
to show, Oh you're not gonna go to Kelly's party?
Why not please go? It's not the same. He is
that person and everybody knows somebody.
Speaker 3 (25:02):
Like how did we get here? How do we get here?
Find out?
Speaker 13 (25:06):
I'm bringing it full circle now. But I think that
he's waiting, and I think there might be an opportunity
that presents itself during the season. It feels like there
always is, so for Aaron Rodgers, he might not need
to take the first opportunity that comes his way. He
might be able to wait it out and find something
better later on.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
He might still a thing. I don't know. I'm an
old person though, which is fine.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
I just wanted to double check and make sure, I
mean warned a thing because I haven't gotten one in
a while, so I'm.
Speaker 7 (25:31):
Either that's friends particle or neither has rank.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
Yeah, okay, so the two of us are in the seon.
Speaker 7 (25:36):
I've never somebody had to describe what it is because
I've never been invited.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
To an maybrick.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
Okay, well, look at the analogy. Still worked for you,
Adam wore from you, and Ian coming up in just
a bit. Cam Ward, well, you know he balled out
this week at his pro day. He spoke to the
Titans website about being the top pick and said, quote,
I told them I'm solidifying it today. The quarterback might
have done exactly that. As for where some of our
mocks have Daniel Jeremiah, Charles Davis, and Bucky Brooks all
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sitting at number one for QB one, potentially for the
Tennessee Titans. For what it's worth, Lancerline has him going
third overall, and if I'm not mistaken, I don't know
which mocket was. It might have been Lance's last mock,
Shador Sanders, he has going twenty ninth overall. So Lance
might be looking at the quarterback position a little bit
differently than the rest of our experts. Getting back to
cam Ward Our Cam Wolfe was actually at his pro day,
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got a first hand seat to see some of those rows.
Not to mention you talked to him after practice. So
Cam lay the foundation for me for NFL teams that
were there, and there's certainly some good personnel that we're
watching some of these throws. What did that workout do
for his stock?
Speaker 14 (26:40):
Well, most of all, it checked another box that cam
Ward's likely to be the number one overall picking this draft.
Speaker 3 (26:45):
You alluded to it before. His confidence.
Speaker 14 (26:48):
There was a moment in that pro day where he
comes over to the Titans brass and says, I'm solidifying
gets to day. That's the composure of the confidence he's
shown throughout the cycle. He's been clear that he's the
best quarterback in the draft, and as a Michael has
going on, more and more teams have joined in that
consensus that cam Ward is the best quarterback in this class.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
And now the Titans have a decision.
Speaker 14 (27:08):
Do you sit there and take him at number one,
which seems to be the path they're going, or do
you continue to listen to offers for teams like the
New York Giants who were at that pro day, and
I saw Joe Shane, their general manager, talking to the
Titans general manager Mike Borganzi. Can they convince them with
enough draft capital to do a trade or do they
finally sit there and get their quarterback of the future.
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They had a private workout with cam Ward today. There's
about five or six people and valled them told including
their head coach Brian Callahan and their general manager, another
impressive showing for cam Ward and that they've got more
and more time with them. Sunday night before the Pro Day,
they met with them at Carbone Arrest of them are
down in South Florida and now they're doing another meeting here.
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It's just another checking of the box to convince themselves
no matter what they get after, can they still feel
comfortable taking cam Ward as their pick their quarterback.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
The more we do some of our mock draft lives,
the more you realize he's checking more and more boxes.
And you watch the film, Got Some You got a
tremendous arm talent, and I think it's subundantly obvious.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
And when we talk about him potentially going to the.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
Titans first overall, but cam when I think about the
state of Florida and college football players, I think straight
up athletes wide receiver, Elijah Badger.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
What do I need to know about him?
Speaker 14 (28:22):
Yeah, he's a guy that I've heard has been rising
up in teams boards, a guy who you probably thought,
maybe I can find him on Day three, maybe he
sneaks into Day two.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
And he's a guy we had his pro day earlier
this week.
Speaker 14 (28:32):
He's six two hundred pounds, runs a four to four
to three, and he transferred to Florida after three years
at Arizona State. Played with eleven quarterbacks throughout his tenure,
but he showed scouts on that pro day that he
can play inside at receiver, play outside receiver, and he
can run essentially any route that you want to do.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
I thought it was interesting hearing a little bit about
him in the process.
Speaker 14 (28:54):
He had dinner with the forty nine ers the night
before his pro day, a team that has IUK, that
has Ricky So, two guys he played with in college,
and also have a need with Deebo Samuel no longer there.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
He also privately met with the Saints.
Speaker 14 (29:07):
So as you're looking a longer draft weekend, as we
get into Friday, as you get into Saturday, keep an
eye on Elijah Badger. He also was a kick returner,
and as we think about the new kick return rules
that go upon, he had a lot of success in
Arizona State.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
In that role, so that could help him on draft weekend.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
A little bit of a speed sure as well. Cam,
You're always the best man. I always appreciate your and
fight insight and looking forward to having you back on
with us on Insiders next week. Meanwhile, speaking of the
NFL Draft and some really talented players that are available, well,
Penn State's got a tight end named Tyler Warren who
could be the first tight end taken in the NFL Draft.
One hundred and four receptions this past year, second at
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FBS play and a Penn State single season school record.
Did not participate in the drills at his pro day,
But here's how it stacks up according to Bucky Brooks
and those top five tight end prospects, not a huge
surprise to see Tyler Warren at the top of that list.
Brian Baldinger, we heard him earlier because he was hanging
out with Abduel Carter at that pro day.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
It turns out he found Warren too at.
Speaker 10 (30:06):
Penn State Pro day with tight end Tyler Warren Tyler,
what's it been like. I mean, you've been out here
supporting all your teammates out here today. In fact, you
didn't want to do any of this until they finished,
which I think is super cool.
Speaker 4 (30:16):
The teammate in you kind of comes out.
Speaker 15 (30:18):
Yeah, I think, you know, just being back, you know,
with this draft class and being around you know, the
Penn State family in general has been awesome. You know,
see him competing and just supporting him like you said,
But yeah, it's just been really fun to be around
the guys again and kind of have that team atmosphere.
Speaker 10 (30:30):
There's one word that everybody keeps describing the team. All right,
I'm throwing it at you, but they just said, he's
just a straight dog, like on the football field.
Speaker 4 (30:39):
Like, is that something that you just want to own?
You want to be that dog? Yeah?
Speaker 15 (30:43):
I feel like that's kind of the standard we have
in the tight end room. And it starts with Tay Howe.
Speaker 5 (30:46):
Right.
Speaker 15 (30:47):
I got here as a as a freshman, and I
had a little bit of it. My dad kind of
raised me to be like that. But then that's the
standard we expect when you played tight end at Penn State.
So I was just carrying on that standard and now
I know the guys below, Hi, we're gonna do the same.
Speaker 10 (30:59):
You honored your five great you know icon and John
Riggins wearing number forty four?
Speaker 7 (31:05):
Right?
Speaker 10 (31:05):
Are you gonna wear forty four in the next level here?
Tell or is that what you would like to do? Yeah?
Speaker 15 (31:10):
If that, if that opportunity is there, I would love to.
But but yeah, we'll see.
Speaker 10 (31:14):
Well, Rigo was a guy that just trucked people, and
you were known to do that when some of your
one hundred and four catchers this year. I mean, is
your style gonna change when you go to the NFL?
Speaker 15 (31:23):
Oh no, I mean I think obviously you get there,
there's there's room to grow and everything you do, right,
But I think kind of what got me to have
this opportunity of stuff I did like that, So I'll
definitely continue to do that and kind of be that
type of player. But also there is always gonna be
a room to grow.
Speaker 10 (31:35):
I was told Tyler that your best friend at Penn
State was Lufashan.
Speaker 15 (31:40):
Him that, Yeah, I have a lot. It's hard to say.
One b here's my roommate for you guys coming together. Yeah,
we came in the same class.
Speaker 3 (31:48):
That's that's my guy for sure.
Speaker 10 (31:49):
The Jets are picking number seven, Yeah, I mean they
might be in that tight end business. That wouldn't be
a bad place to go.
Speaker 15 (31:55):
Yeah, No, that'd be awesome. I know OLU loves it
and they got a great organization you know, out there
and in New York's that'd be fun.
Speaker 4 (32:01):
I think you know one thing that would say about
in Tyle.
Speaker 10 (32:04):
Obviously you can't one hundred four balls you have position versatility,
but I feel like you can be that true Why
tight end the line up at the end next to
or tackle and just take people.
Speaker 4 (32:15):
Off the wall?
Speaker 15 (32:17):
Yeah, I mean I think I think I try and
be a multiple position tight end that does a little
bit of everything. So I don't know if I'd be
stuck at at one, you know, being the true ey,
but I think that is something I can do along
with you know, all the other stuff that is.
Speaker 4 (32:27):
I'm the offense coordinator. I'm moving you all over the place.
You're my chest, peace man, I got you matched up all.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
Over, yes, sir?
Speaker 4 (32:33):
All right, listen, congratulations.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
All right, not the only pro day that we're going
to be at besides Penn State. How about this bringing
you the.
Speaker 3 (32:39):
Best of the latest top prospects.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
We're Boulder next Friday, April fourth, to hang with Stor
Sanders and Travis Hunter. By the way, it's the Colorado
Showcase two thirty on NFL Network and NFL Plus. All right, Baldy,
we just heard from it's been on record talking about
how deep this d line class is. Florida State d
tackle Josh Farmer top fifty player with a unique story, and.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
He joins us next. Nice seminal with Joshua Farmer. He's
the top fifty player for me. Effort, relax, not for nothing.
Speaker 11 (33:26):
Man.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
If I see that dude coming at me at that
speed making those noises, I am running off the field
as fast as possible. He's been a nightmare for quarterbacks.
And you heard DJ say the top fifty guy on
his list, Florida State defensive tackle Josh Farmer is with us. Hey,
I know you've been asked about the grunting and the
noises running down doing that forty.
Speaker 3 (33:45):
Just take me through it, Like, is that how you
normally sound when you're on the field. Yeah.
Speaker 16 (33:48):
Man, I go hard everything I do most of the time,
so I was trying to go hard as possible right now.
Speaker 3 (33:53):
Well, I do that a lot.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
It was a good time for you, and I know
it sort of went a little viral on social media,
so you grab some attention, but you grabbed attention from
what you've been able to do on the football field.
Just take me through holistically macro view for the audience
that hasn't been as blessed as you are physically to
go through this draft process. What's it actually like?
Speaker 3 (34:14):
Oh?
Speaker 16 (34:14):
Man, I'm just blessed with the opportunity and just blessed
to be here.
Speaker 4 (34:17):
It's been great everything.
Speaker 3 (34:18):
I could imagine.
Speaker 16 (34:19):
I've been able to separate myself from the other guys
very quickly and very often. I'm just blessed to be here. Man,
It's everything I could imagine. Just put my head down
and working and God did the rest. Man, it's been.
Speaker 3 (34:31):
Great, Josh.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
You know, I was down at ACC media Day last year,
and I know there was so much hype around your
squad ACC Champs two seasons ago, and I know this
year didn't necessarily play out the way that you and
your teammates had hoped for.
Speaker 3 (34:43):
But those are football lessons.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
What do you take away from the last two campaigns
that prepares you for Sunday?
Speaker 5 (34:49):
Ball.
Speaker 3 (34:50):
Yeah, man, I just think it helped build my character.
Speaker 16 (34:52):
Man, I've been at the top ACC Championship and I've
been at the bottom. So I went through it all
and I know how I feel. It's not a week
I didn't think we were going to win. So just
definitely just helped build my character.
Speaker 13 (35:04):
Man.
Speaker 16 (35:06):
Everything happened for a region, and I thank god I
went through it because you know, I'm just I feel
like I'm tougher than ever now.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
You know, Josh, you have a little bit of a
cheat code because you can lean on some guys that
have gone through this process very recently that you had
success with on the football field. A couple of your
teammates first and second round guys in Verse and Fisk.
What are those conversations like as there I'm sure helping
you through this draft process.
Speaker 16 (35:31):
Yes, sir, Yeah, both of them has been great helps,
especially Fits. He just told me I'm ready and I'm
built for it, and just keep the main thing the
main thing, and be attentional with the small details because
that's what it's going to separate me. So he said,
I'm ready, and I think I'm ready and I'm ready
to do it.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
What do you want NFL teams to know about you
because they can watch the film and see how productive
you were. But you as a person, what's that message?
Speaker 16 (35:54):
Are you getting a you know, a violent, a tough,
relentless defensive topple that hasn't stratched the surface and every
day to learn the right to be there in the NFL?
And you know, you know, I'm just tough from physical
and I'm violent, and I think I'm going to help
them add great value to a defensive line room.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
Josh, I know you talk about that violent play on
the field, but I know some of the things that
you do off and in a lot of respects a
little bit of a giant Eddy bear as well.
Speaker 3 (36:17):
Although maybe you don't want NFL teams to necessarily know that,
But I think your story is so unique.
Speaker 1 (36:23):
You you know, unfortunately lost your parents at a really
young age. You're going to hear your name called in
the NFL draft, and probably a lot earlier than most.
What is that moment going to mean to you and
your family?
Speaker 4 (36:35):
Yeah? Man, it means a lot.
Speaker 16 (36:36):
On what I've been through and what I've overcame, you know,
it was very challenging, but it just makes me better,
you know. It makes things better on the field when
I go through something tough on the field and challenging.
Speaker 3 (36:45):
I don't been through the worst, man. Well it could
be worse than losing your parents at a young age.
Speaker 16 (36:48):
So you know, you know, it's not just big for
my family, but it's gonna be big for other kids
man that's been through what I've been through, and other
kids that think they can't make it. I'm here to
tell them, you know, just keep God first, and keep working,
and keep your head down and just take every opportunity
you can and just take advantage of him.
Speaker 5 (37:04):
Man.
Speaker 16 (37:04):
So I'm just blessed to be here. I can't imagine
no not having God in my life. I'm just truly
blessed through.
Speaker 1 (37:12):
You know, Josh once again an inspiring story, super productive
as a player, but knowing the impact that you're having
on your siblings as well, not to mention the community
around you, Wishing nothing.
Speaker 3 (37:21):
But the best of luck.
Speaker 1 (37:22):
I once again a top fifty guy according to our
draft expert and Daniel Jeremiah can't wait to see where
you end up man and.
Speaker 3 (37:28):
Have a great NFL career.
Speaker 4 (37:30):
Yeah, so I appreciate you.
Speaker 1 (37:31):
Sam Darnold, Yeah, he's gone Minnesota, though they got JJ McCarthy,
who's drafted tenth overall.
Speaker 3 (37:37):
Last year.
Speaker 1 (37:37):
No General manager Quis saidofo Mensa saying of a second
year quarterback being QB one for the franchise. Quote, that's
the outcome we want, and that's the outcome we're headed towards.
Speaker 3 (37:47):
Jeffrey Shdia is.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
With us right now, and Jeffrey, it feels like when
you talk about second year guys, it's sort of obvious
right that we could point to JJ McCarthy as a
dude who can break out because we didn't really see him,
and you're number one, and he's going to get ample opportunity.
Speaker 3 (38:00):
Sell me on this, dude. Well, I'll tell you, I
know that Jason McCarthy's work.
Speaker 9 (38:04):
He season didn't go the way he wanted to go,
but I can tell you this team was very excited
about direction, the direction he was going in before he
got hurt, and Questiadolphi Menzel was saying that. Kevin O'Connell,
the head coach, was saying that. And so even though
he was knocked out of his first year, that year
played out pretty well for him because he got to
sit and watch and learn and they love, his leadership,
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his maturity. He was only twenty one years old when
he got this. You know, he had to grow. Didn't
do a lot of throwing into the football at Michigan.
But I think he's going to break out because he's got.
Speaker 3 (38:33):
A great head coach.
Speaker 9 (38:34):
He's got Justin Jefferson, Jordan Addison, all those weapons, a
great defense, the same thing Sam Donald had he will
have in his offense. And you will see a pretty
good player in Jays McCarthy this coming season as a result.
Speaker 1 (38:46):
Yeah, it's kind of wild. Then, look, I get it,
they're not the same player. But Sam Donald there was
a lot of questions about what he could do when
he got to Minnesota, and we're talking about a guy
that was on the shortlist for one of the best
players in the NFL and certainly was paid that way.
Speaker 3 (38:58):
From the Seattle perspective.
Speaker 1 (39:00):
Zever Worthy made so much noise and buzz because of
that forty time at the Combine, had a really good
rookie campaign. He's flashed on the field off the field
with the way that his garage looks. I know you
and I were talking about that in our commercial break
that was posted on social media.
Speaker 3 (39:13):
But why can this guy find another gear.
Speaker 9 (39:17):
Or he's got the speed, he's got the ability, but
with anything he's developed. And Andy Reid, the Chiefs head
coach and Gerald manager bred beeach really liked the way
he came along. They thought he was just going to
be a speed guy when he showed up. But because
of circumstances, was she Rice getting hurt, Hollywood Brown getting hurt.
He had more opportunities to show what he could do
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in the full route tree, and by the end of
the season he was their main target as far as
wide receivers went, and in the last three meaningful games
they played he had thirty targets, had a huge game
against Buffalt in the playoffs, and even though they got
blown out in the Super Bowl against Philadelphia, he was
the only guy receiver making plays there. So, going into
the year two where she Rice Mike probably gonna get suspended,
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Hollywood Brown's come being back with this guy, all say,
if you're worthy, it's going to get a lot of
targets and a lot of opportunities to keep making blaze.
Speaker 1 (40:04):
Yeah, there's so many times just kind of watching him
on the football field where that display was, that speed
was on full display. I mean just vertically down the
football field and you saw him home just sort of
like lean back and heave it up and you're like,
there's going.
Speaker 3 (40:17):
To be overthrown, and it wasn't because he's that fast.
Speaker 1 (40:19):
Jeffrey always good to get your context on everything that's
happening around the NFL. We've been bouncing all around the
country bringing you some of the best most talented players
in those individual pro days. Well, guess what We're on
Boulder next Friday, April fourth, to hang with Shendar Sanders
and Travis Hunter. It's his NFL Showcase at two thirty Eastern,
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NFL Network and NFL Plus. Meanwhile, pafter the draft, Yeah,
it's back. Are experts taking inside the film room to
show you which prospects are rising to the top of
the draft boards. It all starts Monday six Eastern NFL
Network and streaming on NFL Plus. You know there's one
dude in the offseason who doesn't miss a whole lot
of work out. How about this one of the new
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editions of the Pittsburgh Steelers. Oh, DK, dude's just a
physical specimen. I mean, what he's able to do is
is truly remarkable. And the guy looks like kind of
a Greek god when he's out on the football field. Now,
a very different type of look is Desmond Watson on
the bench. Now, he looks big here, and you see
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some of these numbers. I just want to highlight where
it says weight four hundred and sixty four not a typo,
not a typo that is very accurate. Give you some
context on this Ian Makaia Becton plus one hundred pounds,
Leonard Williams plus Savior Worthy together four hundred and sixty
four pounds. I mean, this dude's an absolute monster. Like
we're not the biggest dudes out there. Like that's multiple
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me and yous together like a whole lot. And the
guy's got hops twenty five inch fir like it's just one.
Speaker 2 (41:51):
I mean that's like watching him bench press is like,
obviously it's a big, strong dude. That's not a surprise.
This is the surprise. Watch this big man get up.
I mean, I actually was surprised at the lack of
reaction from those scouts.
Speaker 11 (42:05):
There.
Speaker 2 (42:05):
You see twenty plus inches on the vertical from this
enormous dude who's still a really good athlete. How come
everybody didn't lose their brains. Where is the reaction? This
is a big deal, right
Speaker 3 (42:17):
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