NFL Fantasy Football Podcast: Best of the Rest

Marcas Grant and Michael F. Florio are back for another edition of the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast! This week, the guys break down some of the other moves that have been trickling down in free agency and how they impact their prospective teams. They discuss whether Brandin Cooks already becomes the WR2 for the Cowboys and how this will affect CeeDee Lamb’s fantasy value as well as whether fantasy managers should be interested or not in Adam Thielen as a Carolina Panther. The hosts also talk about where the best fit would be for some of the bigger name free agents remaining and we play a game of The Draft Price Is Right to determine whether some guys like Justin Fields and Bijan Robinson are going too early or if you may be able to scoop someone up at a value. We finish things off with the return of Florio’s Film Festival as Mike gives his review of the 1997 action thriller, Face/Off!

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Wow, everybody, It's Wednesday, March twenty second, twenty twenty three.
Welcome to the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast, where we're ready
to throw a pro days. It's being your Man, MG.
Marcus Grand joined by Michael Florida. We're in studios. We've

(00:22):
got specialists back there. Move it up. Uh, it's still
raining in Los Angeles. All it does, it's all it
does now. I don't know. Yeah, it's just gonna say that.
It's it's weird. We are we are now Seattle, it's raining.
Here's the thing for us, it's rained. You know, we've
gotten a lot of rain the last couple of months
or so. I'm sure people around the country are like,
suck it up, you whiney babies. It's a little bit

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of rain. Um, But my tax dollars don't go to this.
Governor Gavin Newsom fix it, like I don't. I don't
want this. This is not why I pay my money for.
I had friends come visit a month ago and they
were like, man, we picked the wrong week. All it
did was rain. And I literally texted them this morning
and I was like, all it's done since you left
is right? Like we had maybe two nice days like

(01:04):
there was one day over the weekend it was like
seventy five. We went outside. It was like people had
lost their minds because it was like we hadn't seen
the sun in months. Hopefully we're sort of near the
tail end of it, and I'm sure people like in
the Midwest are like tired of us complaining about Yeah. Also,
I know it's audio right now, but we're wearing the
same hoodie we are. In case you see any any
social media clips of us from this show, we uh

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unintentionally showed up to work wearing the same company issued hoodie.
It was definitely not planned. We played into the Spider
Man beam and our respective desks this morning. We got
we got points of stuff to talk about. Free agency
has sort of died down, though there have been a
few moves since we last spoke to you. We will
get into that, also talk about some of the guys

(01:45):
that are still out there in free agency and maybe
sort of their outlook. Will also take a quick look
at some Best Ball a dps. I know some of
you folks have been doing Best Ball drafts for weeks now,
and God love you for that. But we'll talk about
some of the ad he's now that free agency is
hit and whether we think some of these guys are
too high, too low, or just right. And it's the

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return of Florio's film festival, Face Off is the movie.
I am super excited. Mike walked in this morning and
he said, I have thoughts, and I'm like, yep, let's
do this. So many thoughts. So we will get to
that at the tail end of the show. Very excited
to hear what Florio has to say about Face Off.
But let's start with some of the most recent moves

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in free agency. This first one that actually a free
agent move. It was a trade. The Cowboys get Brandon
Cooks from the Houston Texans, so he will pair up
with Ceedee Lamb as the top two receivers now in Dallas.
Brandon Cooks, My first question, I guess really is like,
how come teams don't want him? Like? I feel like
he feels like Will Smith in that you know that

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the clip from the Fresh Prince of bel Air, Like,
how come they don't want me? Man? Like? Oh, he
does put up a thousand yards. He's consistent every single year,
regardless of the quarterback, And it seems like teams just
like trade him, He's been traded four times. That's insane, man. Yeah,
I don't really get it. Like since throughout his rookie
year he was a rookie, since twenty fifteen, his second
year in the league, he has gone over a thousand

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receiving yards in every year but two, last year being
one of them, and then the other year with the
Rams where he was banged up battling injury, missed a
lot of time that year. Besides that, thousand yards every
single year and every time he gets traded, he's put
up a thousand yards to first year on a new team.
So I'm wondering, is it crazy to be like, Brandon
Cooks at thirty years old, is gonna drop a thousand

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yards this season? I mean, that's gonna ask like a
reasonable projection. So thousand yards. I mean, he's got Dak,
he's got a good quarterback, he's got a good offense.
Thousand yards, six touchdowns, that seems reasonable for Brandon Cooks.
I think so like that the six touchdowns is around
where he always is. He had a couple of years
in the past where he's topped that, but recently six

(03:54):
has been about where he sits. So I think that's
a very fair number. And I agree quarterback upgrade, offense
upgrade as a whole, I would say, And I think
what also bolds well for Brandon Cooks is they didn't
bring back Dalton Schultz, so that opens up a whole
bunch of volume there. Michael Gallup, we got to see
if he can return to former not Knowah Brown left,
so there's a lot of targets up for grab behind

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Ceedee Lamb and Brandon Cooks. Like at this point, I
don't think it's crazy to say he can easily surpass
Michael Gallup and be the number two in the target
pecking order. I fully expect that. I mean as much
as I have sort of tried to be a Michael
Gallup stand and have been mocked by some people in
this building for it. I think Brandon cook steps in
and is immediately the number two receiver behind Ceedee Lamb. There.

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But now, for Lamb, how much does this impact him?
I mean, on the surface, you would think maybe he
takes a hit, but you mentioned there are guys that
are gone, so maybe it doesn't. Yeah, I think this
is a situation where it helps Ceedee Lamb because I
don't think Brandon Cooks like he could come in and
take away the volume that Dalton Schultz had, and then

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Noah Brown and Seede Lamb could still get his near
one hundred and sixty targets that he saw a year ago.
But even more so, Cooks will helped take defensive attention away.
Like the Cowboys last year. I know Michael Gallup was
supposed to be that player, but he really wasn't. Like
they didn't have a field stretcher, someone to take the
top off the defense where the safety has to be
paying close attention to him. Brandon Cooks can still be

(05:20):
that guy. So just some help taking maybe some double
coverage away from Ceedee Lamb, I think can only be
a good thing. I mean, looking at the targets last year,
Ceedee Lamb one hundred and fifty six, next closest Dalton
Schultz at eighty nine. So there's a pretty sizable gap
between the pass catchers there in that Dallas offense, and
in theory, Brandon Cooks comes in, closes that gap and

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gives DAC another weapon to deal with. And that's you know,
obviously we're not even mentioning Tony Pollard at the targets
he's going to get and whatever else they may do
to add help to that pass catching room. Some free
agent moves, so Brandon Cooks leaves Houston. Dalton Schultz, as
you mentioned, doesn't come back to Dallas. He stays in
Texas though he's with Euston Texans. So does Devin's Singletary.

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So let's start with Singletary here, because last year Damien
Pierce had a pretty nice rookie season. Was a guy
that we liked in fantasy, especially early in drafts. You
were able to get him late. Then the hype sort
of went crazy and he moved way up, but all
in all, I think had a pretty good season. Now
they bring in Devin Singletary, who, at least on the surface,
seems to do a lot of the same things. If

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you were trying to choose between the two, which guy
would you rather have, I'd still rather Damian Pierce, but
I think this takes a lot of shine away from him.
And I've seen people on Twitter being like, follow the
money they paid Devin Singletary backup money, and I'm like, yeah,
they did, but he's a much better backup than Rex
Birkhead or Marlon Mack or whoever you were throwing out

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behind Damian Pierce a year ago. And in fact, when
you look at their numbers Pierce and Singletary, Singletary actually
averaged more yards per carry than Damian Pierce did. He
averaged more yards before contact, just around the same yards
after contact. He had more higher percentage of runs go
for ten yards and just a little bit less go
for reaching fifteen plus miles per hours. So he's ay

(07:10):
like he's not a back that can handle two hundred
and twenty two hundred and fifty carries, but in a
limited role. I think Devin Singletary gets underrated a lot
like he is a quality running back. And then the
other point is Week one last year was the only
game where Damian Pierce was healthy and a running back
had more than five carries. I'm sorry to say Devin

(07:31):
Singletary is gonna have a lot of games where he
has more than five carries, and I still think he'll
be heavily involved in the passing games. So I think
this takes Damian Pierce from someone who had RB one
upside and caps the ceiling as an RB two and
maybe makes his floor a little bit lower some weeks.
I mean and I think when you go with the
whole follow the money thing, I think it's also necessary

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to point out. I mean, you look at kind of
what running backs are getting. Nobody's getting big money. Rashot Penny.
The Eagles got him for like a gonna dance basically,
you know, So it's not like it's not any of
these guys are gonna get huge contract. The guys we
thought were gonna get big deals all got franchise tagged, right,
sae Quon, Josh Jacobs, Tony Pollards all got franchise tag

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So at that point we just knew there wasn't gonna
be a lot of money out there for the running
back position. What worries me, though, is how they split
up the workload there. I think Pierce is going to
be the frontline guy, but as you mentioned, Singletary is
not going to be your average backup. He's not going
to be that guy that comes in and just gets
a few snaps per game. He can really be involved.

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Worst case scenario, though, is that you get Pierce as
sort of the pass catching back, you get Singletary as
the guy who kind of runs the ball between the twenties,
and then they end up sort of being mutually unsatisfying
for fantasy. You get a couple of guys who give
you maybe eight hundred total yards. Maybe they give you
three to five touchdowns. Maybe Pierce is better because he

(08:53):
catches the ball a little bit more. But I just
have this fear that neither one of these guys are
going to be super exciting for because they are very
much the same person I think in terms of what
they can do on the football field. Meanwhile, Dalton Schultz
comes in, and I don't know how you feel. I
feel like he walks in at least right now, it's
the number one target in that offense. I don't know

(09:14):
who the quarterback's going to be, but it does feel
like Schultz gets a boost in the tight end rankings
just because he should be a target magnet this year.
I see that point completely. I do want to see
what the Texans do in the draft because at number twelve,
like I'm still holding out hope that if they get CJ. Stroud,
they pair like Jason with him or something like that.
John Metchi is going to return as well. But I

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do think Dalton Schultz will be the top target at
least as of now. I think he should still kind
of go where he like right now, his ADP is
tight end eleven. If you want to boost him ahead
of like Pat Fryarmouth, I'm okay with that, But after that,
there's no like, I don't Kelsey obviously, Andrews, Hawkinson, Kittle, Pitts, Goddard,

(09:57):
Evan Ingram, Darren Waller, David and Joke, who are still
all tight ends that I'd rather have right now? I
put Schultz in the group with friar Muth, Dawson Knox,
and Cole Comet and and a conquo like if you
don't get one of those top what is that eight
tight ends? Like those are solid fallback options, and then
it just becomes a who's who of like the normal
tight endness where it's like this guy could give me

(10:17):
great one week and terrible the next. Yeah, I mean,
I think that's sort of what it is. I'm holding
out hope that Schultz maybe is a little bit better
than than friar Muth. You know, I think for in Joku,
a lot of it depends on which version of Deshaun
Watson we see this year. You know, if it's the
Deshaun Watson we saw last year, then I'm I'm sort
of out. If it's the Watson that we saw those

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years in Houston, then I'm excited about Joku, you know,
so I like Schultz as a player. I do think
the opportunity is going to be good. I'm going to
keep an eye though, on the quarterback situation in Houston
that may impact quite a bit of it. You know,
they've got a shot to get one of the top
quarterbacks potentially, so we'll see what they what they decide
to do there if they want to make a move

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at that position. Devin Singletary gone from Buffalo, so that
leaves a spot open there. The Bills stay in the
division and they signed Damian Harris, who a couple years
ago had that big season with what fifteen rushing touchdowns.
It was last year a little bit underwhelming as it
turned into Ramondre Stevenson seasonson. In New England, we were

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sort of excited at least I thought we were about
James Cook and potentially what he could be. Does this
put a dent in that potential for a Cook I
mean a little bit, But I think if you were
wanting to be excited for James Cook, this is a
win because the other names that were tied. I know,
I don't think Zeke Elliott is great anymore, but Zeke Elliott,

(11:44):
Leonard Fournette, we heard Dalvin Cook, Derek Henry. If they
got a big name back, maybe he threw Leonard Fournette
out of that group, like they were gonna be a
bigger threat to get a lot of work than Damian Harris.
With Damian Harris, I think the Bills accomplished what they wanted,
getting a bigger back, a shortyard guy, someone they could
use near the goal line. But last season, just comparing
last season, James Cook had more rushing yards on fewer carries.

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He averaged more yards per carry, more rushing yards over expectation,
yards before contact, yards after contact, big runs, everything. He
was just better across the board. Plus he's the better receiver.
So I continue to say, like I'd rather James Cook
than Damien Harris, especially because until it happens, I refuse
to believe the Bills are just going to be like,
let's not let Josh Allen run, especially near the goal line.

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And if you're drafting Damien Harris, you're hoping for rushing touchdowns.
I don't feel confident that he's gonna have a whole
bunch that you just you just blew up My whole
argument for Damien Harris that was like no, but that
was my thought is that he's going to be that
guy who's going to take those opportunities that at some point,
as effective as Josh Allen has been and as big
and strong as he is, the Bills do have a

(12:53):
lot of money tied up in him, and you wonder
if they're going to start to tell him, hey, maybe
don't at least not so they should. But I don't
know until like we said this last year now, and
part of me thinks it's Josh Allen as well, Like
I know the Bills tell him not to but his
response is always like I'm a football player, right, And
it's like until he decides not to do it, you

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coaches can only say so much. I think that's you know,
that definitely something to sort of to keep in mind.
The other part of Damien Harris is that the draft
price is reasonable, right, he's RB forty seven right now.
In fact, at this moment as of last check, he's
going after Ezekiel Elliott. That may flip flop very soon,
who knows, But you're not. You're not spending anything to

(13:36):
get him in draft, right, even James Cook, like maybe
RB three price. But I would not want to draft
James Cook to be like my starting running back. Yeah no,
I wouldn't do that either. Again, until we figure out
what Josh Allen is going to do. If he's going
to stop running for all of the touchdowns, then it
gets a lot harder to figure out the Bill's running
back situation. Last piece of fantasy related free agency news,

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Adam feel has a new home. After spending his entire
career with the Minnesota Vikings, he heads down to Carolina
and signs with the Panthers. Well have made some sort
of interesting moves. Obviously, we wait to see what they're
going to do with the number one overall pick, but
they do add Adam Feeling. Admittedly he's been on the

(14:19):
decline the last few years. How much does this change
your interest level in him? If at all? For me,
not at I've been off at thel in for a
couple of years now, and people haven't been too happy
about that because he could still Like two years ago,
he was still scoring touchdowns and stuff, but that's kind
of all he is now at this point, But my
thinking has been he's the de facto number one on

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the Panthers, so people are gonna say, well, he's gonna
get all the volume, he's gonna be a rookie quarterback's
best friend. So I think he still will get pulled
up to like wide receiver three range, and I'd rather
just take someone that has more upside at that point. Also,
I'm not fully convinced that the Panthers aren't gonna draft
Anthony Richardson number one. Well, and I'm not sure if

(15:01):
that's a good thing. I think it's a great thing
for Anthony Richardson, I'm not sure if that's a good
thing for Adam. Yeah, I'm with you, though I'm kind
of out on Feeland. The decline has been very noticeable
over the last few years, and last year with him
scoring just six touchdowns. It worked a couple of years before,
right he had fourteen, and twenty twenty he had ten.
In twenty twenty one he dropped off to six, you know,

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and I think even at his best this year, I
don't know that he's a thousand yard receiver. I don't
know that he's going to get you double digit touchdowns.
So I think you're looking at, at best, probably a
wide receiver three out of Adam Feeland. I think that's
how I would draft him, and right if they if
they don't go with CJ. Stroud or Bryce Young, then

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I think you got to rethink that as well. For
Theeland there, I want to take a quick look at
some of the other notable names still out there in
free agency, and I pulled this list from Greg Rosenthal's
Top one oh one free Agents living document that changes
every time somebody is added. And the quarterbacks. Teddy Bridgewater

(16:06):
kind of the most remarkable name out there. I don't
know how much time we need to spend on Teddy.
I mean, wherever he goes, he's probably going to be
a backup. You're probably not drafting him for fantasy. The
end wide receivers though, kind of interesting. Odell Beckham Jr.
DJ Chark, Nelson Aglare. Now this is the order that
Greg has them in in his top one oh one.
He's got obj as his first wide receiver of that group,

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then Charke then a galore. Sort of leaving aside that
nobody is really clamoring to draft Nelson Agalore in fantasy football.
Who would you rather have. Would it be Beckham or
would it be Chark? Chark, give me the guy who's
played football in the last calendar year, the guy who
is younger, isn't coming off of two major knee injuries,

(16:51):
and also who's a really good field stretcher. And I
know sometimes I feel like field stretchers because their job
is so hard, like it's the hardest downfield passes are
the hardest targets to reel in, so I don't know
if they always get the love that they deserve. But
DJ Chark has proven to be like a really reliable
feature in that regard. And I thought coming into the

(17:15):
free agency period that Chark, Jacoby Myers, or Juji would
get the largest wide receiver contract. That did not think
it would be Alan Lazard, and I did not think
DJ Chark would still just be sitting here waiting for
a job. But like a field stretcher could do so
much to change that real life offense and opened up
so much near the line of scrimmage that I thought Chark,

(17:35):
outside of Jacoby, him and Myers were my top two guys,
So I'll continue to be with DJ Chark. I'm very
surprised that DJ Chark is still out there. Because I'm
with you, I thought it was gonna be Jacoby Myers
or Chark that likely got the bag this offseason. I
thought I thought maybe Chark was in line. I mean,
this is how crazy I was. Apparently, I thought he
was gonna get Christian Kirk kind of numbers saying that

(17:56):
we were gonna look around and be like, man, DJ
Chark really got the bag. And but here we are
a week into the free agency period and no movement
on DJ Chark. You know, reports that the Lions are
still interested in bringing him back. You know, the Panthers
were supposed to be in but I wonder if that's
changed now that they've added Adam Feeling. So he's still
just kind of sitting out there. And maybe it's because

(18:19):
he's never really had a big year. Had the one
big year in Jacksonville with a thousand yards, uh, followed
up with a decent season the year afterwards. You know,
was was banged up the last couple of years between
the Jags and the Lions. Yeah, I don't know. Somebody
pointed out, by the way, I think it was a
Mike Kay who covers the Panthers, that if if DJ
Chark were to go to Carolina, he would completely big

(18:42):
cat triumphrate by going from the Jaguars to the Lions
to the Panthers. Wow. Yeah, that good for him. Yeah,
if you were able to make that work. Um, you know,
just a side note. I don't know that it matters
at any point, um, but so all these guys out here,
I mean, where are good landing spots? Right? If? If
Carolina sort of out of the market for a wide

(19:02):
receiver at this point, you know, I thought, maybe Chark
to the Chargers because they need that speed. Is there
any place that really jumps out at you at needing
wide receiver help that could use one of these three
guys I've been with you. I think the Chargers because
they need that outside speed and what it would do
to help open up stuff for Keenan Allen, Mike Williams,
Austin Ekeler, But for DJ Charks ultimate fan, because I

(19:24):
don't think that's the best case for charks fantasy value.
I just think it's the best for everyone else. I mean,
I don't want them to sign him because I want
to Darius Tony to be the number one, But the
Chiefs have a glaring need at wide receiver the Giants,
I don't think. I mean, they brought in Darren Waller,
but they still Darius Layton is like their only guy
that could win downfield. Parris Campbell's a slot guy like

(19:45):
I think DJ Chark would go a long way with
the Giants. And then there was one other team, Oh,
the Titans. They still need wide receiver help, so maybe Heat,
but I don't love that landing spot. And the other
thought I had was maybe the Broncos if they trade
a Judy or Son, because we're hearing a lot of
rumors about those guys being shopped, maybe he comes in
and is the replacement there. But I'll throw one more

(20:07):
out for you. The Ravens, Yes, because I mean, obviously
Mark Andrews is doing this thing and is great, and
you hope that when Rashad Bateman is healthy and ready
to go that he can add an element there. But
DJ Chark in Baltimore would be interesting, and maybe that
could help be the push to get Lamar back in
the fold, get him, you know, a little bit happier
with his situation. They could use wide receiver help, but

(20:30):
especially now with a new offensive coordinator in Todd Monkin,
I expect him to be probably a little bit more vertical,
a bit more aggressive throwing the football, and a guy
like DJ Chark could really help out. And seeing Lamar
be able to win with a downfield threat like Mark.
He's brown like, so I think that would be a
really good fit as well. Yeah, running backs, A couple
of names of interest that are out there Ezekiel Elliott

(20:52):
who is a post June first designation. He will be
a free agent, than Leonard Fournette who is still hanging
around there. Obviously, these are guys who are a little
bit older. A lot of wear and tear on some
of these guys, but still potentially productive. Now, I'll say this,
I don't expect either of these guys to be signed
for a while. I think it's definitely gonna be after

(21:14):
the draft for sure, before either of these guys really
gets any kind of attention. But what's the best case
scenario for a couple of aging backs who might still
have something left in the tank but are definitely no
longer frontline starters. That's the issue is not only like
looking through backfields right now. There's not like the Ravens
could always use some help because their guys have been

(21:35):
so banged up, but like there's not a glaring need
there maybe Philly, but Philly seems to be pretty content
with what they have right now. Like there's not a
lot of backfields. It seems to me like that are
searching for answers and if they are so pretty deep
draft class coming up, So I agree with you. I
think we're not going to really see any of this
happen until after the draft, especially because Austin Ekli right

(21:57):
now is potentially seeking the trade. We've heard Dalvin Cook
his name mentioned in maybe some trades or something like that,
and those guys are just better than Fournet and Zeke
at this point in their career. The one that stands
out to me and the one that I will keep
harping as like a great landing spot for a running
back is Miami. Jeff Wilson and Raheem Most were fine
last season. I don't really love either of four or

(22:19):
Zeke there. I wanted more explosive back, but I would
love to see this Miami offense with an upgrade at
running back. I wanted to see Miles Sanders in Miami, yep,
really bad. That's what I've loved to see and I
just kept hearing this talk that Miami wanted to make
a splash, they wanted to do something big in free agency,
and then they bring back the three guys that they had.
They signed Wilson, they resigned Moster, they resigned Miles Gasket.

(22:41):
I'm like, that's the opposite of making a splash. So
as I'm looking around, like I don't see any real
obvious landing spots for either one of these guys. I
do think we'll have to wait till after we get
through the draft. It might even be, you know, waiting
to see when we get into camp if you know,
somebody maybe suffers an injury and they need some help
at running back. But there just don't seem to be

(23:03):
any immediate obvious places for either Zeke or Fournette to go.
IRV Smith the most notable tight ends still out there
on the board. Now that Dalton Schultz has found a home. Look,
I have been team hashtag let IRV swerve? Is it
time to give up on that? Like he still kind
of hanging around? It never really happened in Minnesota. Do

(23:27):
I have to put this dream away? Now? I've been
with you on the Year of Smith train I'm never
gonna fully be ready to let this go. I still
think he's a very capable tight end. The issue is
I kind of think he's going to be in the
same boat as Fournette and Zeke where he might have
to wait a while to sign if he hasn't already.
Because Daniel Jeremiah talks about it all the time, there

(23:49):
might be like double digit starting caliber tight ends in
this draft class. He says it's the one of, if
not the deepest draft classes that he is scouted, and
he's been doing this a long time, so that we're
against IRV Smith, and there's plenty of teams that can
use a tight end upgrade. Like I'm not even sure
if the Dolphins have a tight end on their active
roster right now, But there's so much um depth in

(24:11):
this draft class that I think teams are gonna see
how the draft shakes out and then maybe go after
some of these remaining tight enns. Yeah, so I think
for IRV, I mean, it really is a situation where
you're kind of in a bad spot right now. I mean,
especially having been hurt for much of the year last year,
really didn't get to go out and show much of anything,
and there's just not a market at the moment. By

(24:31):
the way, the current tight ends for the Dolphins Tanner Connor,
Eric Saubert and Durham Smithe Yeah, that's if that does anything.
Guy Hunter Long, Hunter Long, Man, I was excited everybody.
It's funny too because Hunter Long has one career NFL catch,
but like fantasy folks still love him. They love the
talent profile for Hunter Long. It's like, you know, so

(24:52):
many place like what was the Packers wide receiver um
the fantasy Jeff Jeff Jennis. Yeah, people never were ready
to let that one. Jeff Janis fanboy love was insane, man,
especially because even the catching a hail marry in a
game from from Aaron Rodgers and the Jeff Janis hive
went berserk. Certain players that Andy Isabella was another one.

(25:14):
Like people me just as a community, we refuse to
like go with some of them. Oh man. So uh yeah,
the the Dolphins definitely needs some tighten help. Curious to
see what they do there, whether or not they decide
to make a move in the draft. That gets us
pretty much caught up on free agency. We got more
stuff to talk about that We'll take a break come
back and we'll look at some ADPs now that free

(25:36):
agents have sort of moved around and see whether or
not we like where some of these other players have
landed when it comes to drafts. Also do a little
face off at the end with Florio's film Festival that's
coming up next. You're on the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast.

(25:57):
Time to play a little old draft. Price is right,
I need my Bob Barker skinny microphone and tell you
to help control the pet population, spaying new to your
pets and all that good stuff like Bob used to do.
You did on Fantasy Live the other day, The Prices Right,
like losing sound. I was like, it sounded like I
was on the Prices Right. It was very well done. Thanks.

(26:19):
It's funny, you know. It's like I said, it's been
raining here in Los Angeles, like rainy days remind me
of like staying home from school, maybe being sick, or
just being at Grandma's house, and like The Prices Right,
being on the TV in the middle of the day
before Her Stories came out one of my favorite shows,
when I was like, Parce is great. It's not the
same with Drew Carey. It just it just doesn't feel
right with Drew carry hosting it. That's all. But anyway

(26:41):
for fantasy price is right. I went and looked at
some ADPs for best balls over on suld we say underdog.
I'm gonna say underdog because that's that's where it comes from, right,
it's over at over an underdog where a lot of
folks were doing best ball drafts, I wouldn't looked at
their ADPs, pulled out a handful of names, and I
want to get your thoughts on are you okay with

(27:02):
their current draft price or do you think it needs
to be up or down or wherever. Start with Justin Fields,
who obviously had a very good season last year for
fantasy does get the wide receiver upgrade. With Dj Moore
being traded, there still a chance the Bears could go
out and draft a guy like Jackson Smith and Jigba
in the first round. Right now, Justin Fields is the

(27:24):
QB four overall. He's going thirty third off the board.
So you were looking somewhere late in the third round
for Justin Fields? Too high? Too low? Just right? I
think it's just right. We did on Fantasy Live the
other day that my top ten early quarterback rankings, and
I had Fields at five, but I went back and
forth between him and Joe Burrow for four and five.

(27:46):
So for me, I think there's a big three of
Alan Hurtz Mahomes, and then I think the next year
starts with Burrow and Fields, so any order you want
to put them in. And Justin Fields got better as
the year went on as a passer, but there's still
so much room for him to improve. He last season
was the QB six in fantasy. He didn't throw for

(28:08):
two hundred, two thousand and three hundred yards and he
only threw seventeen touchdowns. Like it is very possible he
could almost or actually even double his passing stats from
last year. That's how low his numbers were because DJ Moore,
Darnell Mooney, Chase Claypool, and remember after they got Claypool,
Mooney got hurt. Like this is gonna be by far
the best allotment of weapons that Justin Fields ever has.

(28:28):
Plus he can run like he's Lamar Jackson or Jalen Hurts.
So yeah, I'm fine with taking him at QB four.
I mean, I do think the camp at least the
hoped for comp is Jalen Hurts, a guy who his
first couple of years, we knew he had the rushing ability,
We knew he was a good fantasy quarterback, and we
were waiting to see whether or not he could translate

(28:50):
that into being an actual good NFL quarterback. He made
the leap, and I think the hope for a lot
of us is Justin Fields can make the leap. As
you mentioned last season, twenty two forty two, that was
the yardage total for him, So not even twenty three
hundred yards passing for Justin Fields, but that rushing total
is what kept everybody interested. When you were able to

(29:11):
run for eleven hundred yards, everybody's going to pay attention
to that. So even if the rushing numbers come down,
but he gets you over three thousand passing yards, if
he can get you twenty five passing touchdowns, that starts
to even things out. And it does look more like
you know what we've seen out of Jalen Hurts, you
know what we saw out of early Josh Allen, And

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so I guess four does that sort of makes sense.
On the flip side, Geno Smith, coming off his best
career season is the QB eighteen. He's going one hundred
and twenty first overall, so you're looking at what the
tenth round. Basically, he's become one of the guys that
you want if you wait on a quarterback. But QB
eighteen that seems weirdly low to me after what he

(29:53):
did last season. Yeah, so my first thought was like,
that's way too low. Like I didn't have him in
my top ten. I don't even think I'll have him
in my twelve. But I keep saying like he is
one of the strongest fallback options. I think, But then
I look at the quarterbacks going ahead of him, Deshaun Watson.
I'd rather take the sean On Watson over Smith. Daniel Jones.
I think him and Genial Smith are super close. The

(30:14):
only thing that Jones has is he runs more. Aaron Rodgers.
I understand the thinking of taking him over him. Jared Goff.
I understand the thinking there because Goff put up good numbers. Russ.
I could see a Russ bounce back, so I Sean
Payton fact, Yeah, with Russ, I agree with that. Trey Lance,
as much as I love Trey Lance, that he's going
pretty high at right now. Kirk Cousins is going pretty high.

(30:37):
Right now. So there's a couple of names I would
push Gino over, but QB two is now that I'm
really looking at it, because Derek car is still behind him.
Then you have the rookies like well, I keep saying
there's a clear top eight. I think there is depth.
I think you're just they all come with question marks
and you're gonna have to hope you choose the right guy.
The Trey Lance one, I'm I'm still trying to wrap

(30:58):
my head around a little bit. I understand, and based
on the talent profile. While people would take the shot
at him, I just wonder does he have a job.
I mean, Brock Purdy's had surgery. The timeline is such
that they expect he'll be ready for the start of
the season. The Niners are certainly hoping that. You know,

(31:18):
I would hope, I would think Trey Lance could beat
out Sam Darnold in a competition if it came to it.
But it just seems like the Niners aren't really planning
on Lance being their starting quarterback, and so that makes
it hard for me to draft him above a guy
like Rogers or Golf or Gino Smith. That's the one
that maybe makes me scratch my head a little bit.
I just you know better than me. But it doesn't

(31:40):
feel to me like the Niners are invested in Trey Lance,
like a team that took a quarterback third overall would be.
They kind of aren't, And I think they were until
brock Purty happened and then they're like, oh, look at this,
look at when we found and so yeah, the urgency
to get Trey Lance back in there and on the
field has certainly diminished because they feel pretty confident with

(32:03):
the quarterback that they have right now, again, provided that
Purdy is healthy and ready to go at the start
of the season. The interesting one, the big one here,
Bijean Robinson. I mentioned this on Fantasy Live on our
Free Agency fallout show on Monday, that Bijean Robinson is
going right now as the RB four in Bestball Drafts,

(32:25):
thirteenth overall. He is one slot behind Austin Eckler, one
slot ahead of se Quon Barkley. People love themselves some Bijeon.
This feels like the drafting him and his absolutely and like,
I don't mind drafting a running back in the first round,
a rookie running back in the first round. If we
feel like that guy can be that guy, But this

(32:47):
feels like taking him into ceiling in March. That's crazy
to me. Yep it is, and I love being listen.
Everyone loves be Jean Robinson. He needs by far the
best running back prospect in this class, and I would
say since Kuon Barkley. He can run with power. He's explosive,
he can He's one of the most elusive running backs
that I think I've ever seen. He is so side

(33:09):
a side and he could like juke without missing a
step down field. It's remarkable his talent. But we saw
this happen pre NFL Draft with Javontay Williams a couple
of years ago. Not saying Javonta is the same level
of prospect of Bijan because I just said Bejan is
the best in sa Quan. But Javant was going in
the second round of Best Ball drafts. Then he ended

(33:30):
up getting drafted by the Broncos and his ADP fell
to like the fifth or six rounds. So people love
to push in all their chips early and be like,
I was on this guy before anyone, and no one's
on Bijean Robinson before anyone. Everyone's Robinson. But to me,
this feels like you're anticipating him going to the Eagles
or the Bills or someone like that, like a high
powered offense where he can come in and dominate touches.

(33:52):
I right now, like I would still, I could easily
make the case for sa Quon over him, Kenneth Walker,
Tony Pollard, Jacob's Like, to me, there's a top eight
running backs right now, Bijean belongs in the eighth, but
I don't know if he belongs at four. Like I'm
much more comfortable with him at eight. I mean, I'm
just telling this. This feels like the absolute ceiling, Like
I can't imagine it getting any higher. Even if he

(34:14):
goes to Philadelphia. I don't know that he can get
any higher in terms of what his draft price is
going to be. When the guy's ahead of him are McCaffrey,
Jonathan Taylor, and Austin Ekeler. I feel like there's only
space to go down for Robinson, and it almost is
worth waiting it out to see if that ADP comes
down even just a few notches. Um Breecee Hall or

(34:35):
Bijean Robinson. Right now, I would go Bijean just because
Bruce is coming off the ACL injury. But landing spot
is because I think what we do a lot of
the times, this is like we put the pie in
the sky landing spot, but like the cow we were
talking about it off air, the Cowboys could easily take
everything the Patriots have been tied to Bijean Robinson, Like,

(34:58):
that wouldn't be a very good fantasy fits. So to me,
you're you're taking a shot on the unknown, But I
agree with you, like is taking him fourth overall? Can
he really go up from there? I don't think. Yeah,
I don't. I just don't think he can. So I
love the talent. I do, but I would be willing
to wait and see if maybe I can get a
slight minute discount on b Jean Robinson. Aaron Jones is

(35:21):
a guy that I feel like always sort of gets
disrespected when it comes to fantasy drafts. Right He's always
kind of hanging around. It would be like second or
third round for Aaron Jones and a lot of drafts
and he ends up, you know, being a fringe RB one.
When it's all said and done, right now, he's the
RB seventeen, which would make him kind of a lower
end RB two overall growing sixty first off the boards.

(35:42):
You're talking about a fifth round pick. Obviously, the Aaron
Rodgers news has a lot to do with it, but
I don't know. I feel like I'm torn. How do
you feel about it? I will too how I feel,
But I'm curious how you feel about Aaron Jones as
RB seventeen. I like that he's not going as an
RB one anymore. That was my biggest takeaway from the
Aaron Rodgers trade was like, I don't think Aaron Jones

(36:05):
should be a fifth straight year going as an RB one,
but RB seventeen does especially Like At first, I was like,
that feels right, but then I looked at the names
ahead of him, Jamir Gibbs, another rookie. I would rather
have Aaron Jones than a rookie because landing spot is
going to greatly determine that value. Then there's Dalvin Cook.
I'm okay taking Dalvin Cook over Aaron Jones. Naji Harris

(36:26):
was the other one that stood out to me. I
was like, we've forgotten how bad it was to have,
Like Naji had one good game in Fantasy last season
and that was it. So I would knock Naji behind
both Dalvin Cook and Aaron Jones. After that though, I'm
kind of like Ramondre Stephenson, Travis etn. And then the
round one running back like I'm I'm okay with all

(36:46):
of those guys going over. So then I mean, in
that case, it's it's just about right and I And
this is where where I'm torn because I look at
the names and there aren't too many guys that are
ahead of him currently that I would move below him.
So maybe he moves up a couple of spots. It's
not drastic, but it's also a part of me that
looks and looks at Jordan Love and says, you know what,

(37:07):
he still very much could lean on Aaron Jones this
year in the passing game. Uh. You know they lose
Alan Lazard, you know, take that for what you will.
You know, Christian Watson is still there, but you know
there's not a lot in the Packers receiver room that
gets you excited. You know, Aaron Jones can catch the
football effectively. I think they may lean on he and

(37:28):
aj Dillon to run the ball this year. So I
do still see a path for Jones to get a
whole lot of opportunity in this offense. And as long
as Love is decent as a quarterback, he doesn't have
to be Aaron Rodgers level. He just has to not
be a disaster at quarterback, and Aaron Jones can keep
some values. So on the one hand, I do see
a path for him to maybe kind of finish as

(37:49):
a fringe maybe maybe not in the top twelve, but
just outside the top twelve. But then again, um, I
don't see too many names that I would jump Aaron
Jones ahead of too, So it's I'm sort of torn
on that one for Jones. Calvin Ridley coming back after
his suspension and it'll be the first time we've seen

(38:10):
him on the field in more than a year by
the time he gets to play again. Wide receiver nineteen
overall thirty nine, is that a good spot for him?
I know we're hoping for big things, but wide receiver
nineteen does that feel okay? That feels okay to me.
I think the overall feels a little high, like thirty
eighth overall. I would anticipate. What I'm anticipating is a

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lot of these receiver, not the high end guys who
are going in the first round, but some of these,
like third fourth round receivers. I think we'll get knocked
down a bit once we get more answers at the
running back position and we know which guys we can
trust and stuff. But I think wide receiver nineteen feels right,
like the name's going around him Amari Cooper, DeAndre Hopkins,

(38:51):
then it's Ridley, Mike Williams, DJ Moore, Like that feels
like a good tier for Calvin Ridley. I think people
maybe forget how explosive he is, how great of a
red zone option he is, because not only was he
suspended all of last year, the year before that was
the year where he had to take time off because
of his mental health and stuff. So it's been a
while since we've really seen a full season of Calvin Ridley.

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But front of the Show Matt Harmon reception, Yeah, he
posted that, like, Calvin Ridley is off the charts with
his route running and everything. So to me, Calvin Ridley
is gonna arguably be having a quarterback upgrade from what
end of career Matt Ryan kind of was, plus more
help around him that could take stuff off. He was
saying in his article that he wrote that first year

(39:36):
where he took the time off two years ago. It
was his first year without Julio, and he was really
struggling to adjust to being like the only guy out there.
He's not going to be that in Jacksonville. He also
said in that article fourteen hundred yards incoming, yeah, or
the Jaguars that got me hyped. That got a lot
of people high. I mean, honestly, it was like, you know,
far down importance in the actual story and it's worth reading.

(39:58):
Go if you haven't found it yet, go go check
it out out. But for all those fantasy folks are like, oh,
fourteen hundred yards, it was kind of like okay, um.
And so because of that, maybe it's me being hyped
up on that and being hyped up on the skill
set and what he is that makes me feel like
I'd be willing to reach above where that is to

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bring him in. The thing that sort of tempers my
expectations is, as you mentioned, there's a lot of people
there in Jacksonville, right, Christian Kirk coming off a good season,
Evan Ingram coming off one of his best seasons, Zay
Jones having a great year as well. There's so many
places for Trevor Lawrence to go with the football that
it's hard. You hope that Ridley can get to fourteen hundred,

(40:40):
but it's also you know, reasonable to think, hey man,
maybe eleven hundred yards is the ceiling. I sign up
for that too. So which of these names would you
pull him ahead of? Like d Hop right now, not
knowing where he's going to play? Yeah, I mean, I
think the Hop is a question mark. What about Debo?
I Deebo? I might might depend on the quarterback situation

(41:02):
makes sense, you know, if it's Brock Purty, I'm fine
with Deebo, it's Trey Lance, Yeah, I might. I might
think twice about it. Uh, you know, that's a good question.
That's a good question. Maybe it's hard. Hop is definitely one.
Maybe Amari Cooper that was the other one. I was
thinking potentially, um, But yeah, that's that's the kind of

(41:24):
hard part too. Right. If you're like, if you're gonna
move somebody up, the question is who do you move down?
And that's that's a hard one to figure out. By
the way, I'm on Ross Saint Brown, it wide receiver ten,
Like let's go the sun Guide in the top ten.
He he deserves it. I mean he I'm very excited
about the Lions offense. It's gonna be great, man, And
I'm glad we're over the is. I'm on Ross Saint

(41:44):
Brown actually good Like I'm glad we've put that conversation
to be at this point. Last one, Christian Watson talked
about Aaron Jones and what the potential departure of Aaron
Rodgers means for him. For Christian Watson, the guy who
was red hot at the end of last season. Right now,
the wide receiver twenty two overall forty four. This is
another one though, sort of like Ridley, like the wide

(42:05):
receiver twenty two seems okay. Forty four though you're talking
about what fourth round. Yeah, Christian Watson, that seems a
little spicy. I think this is a little too high.
And I was super bullish on Christian Watson at the
end of last season. I think he was a league winner.
He helped me win a league. I'm sure he helped
many other people win their fantasy leagues. But you go

(42:27):
from one of the greats ever in Aaron Rodgers. And
I know Aaron Rodgers was an MVP form last year,
but him and Christian Watson were still they had chemistry
there and like Rogers was able to put the deep
ball where it needed to be downfield for Christian Watson
to get there. Can Jordan Love do that? I don't know, maybe,
but we really haven't seen it a whole lot. And

(42:48):
because of that, because there's so much unknowns, I think
Christian Watson should take a hit a little bit. Michael
Pittman junior versus him, I think in bestball, I understand
why Watson's going so high because as you're chasing those
massive weeks, those like twenty five thirty point weeks, and
he's a receiver that can do it. Not everyone can,
but in you like a redraft, I think Michael Pittman,

(43:09):
you can make a case Silver Watson, Drake London, Terry McLaurin.
I think in either format should be going ahead of
Christian Watson. And then, uh, this might be spicy. Jamison
Williams goes wide receiver thirty one overall, I would easily
put him ahead of Christian Way. I mean, I'm looking
at Jamison Williams where he is, I would right now
probably put him ahead of Chris Godwin. I know it's

(43:30):
kind of crazy to think I put him ahead of
Chris Godwin probably Keenan Allen. I hate to say put
him go ahead of Drake London, just because I have
no idea what the Falcons are doing offensively at this point.
So Jamison Williams can definitely move up. But I do
think that the Christian Watson kind of gets the benefit
of this being a best ball draft, and I think
that's that's sort of worth noting because you don't have

(43:51):
to worry about in week to week. You just, you know,
you just take advantage of those spike weeks when they happen,
and so maybe that the potential is what lands him
where we're here. Let's quick look at some ADPs. I'm
sure we will do plenty more, especially after the draft
than once we have an idea of where the rookies
are going to be. That'll shift ADPs again. So we'll
do this again at some point in the near future.

(44:14):
All right, let's do this. Florio's Film Festival is back
after a two week hiatus, and this week's movie is
Face Off from nineteen ninety seven. To foil a terrorist
plot in FBI, agent undergoes facial transplant surgery to assume
the identity of the criminal mastermind who murdered his only

(44:35):
son with the criminal wakes up prematurely and seeks revenge.
Directed by John Woo, starring John Travolta and Nicholas Cage.
Released June twenty seventh, nineteen ninety seven, with a budget
of eighty million gross two hundred and forty five million
dollars worldwide. Michael left Florio, you said you had thoughts.

(44:57):
I am ready to hear your thoughts on this cinematic epic.
My first thing and the thing I kept wondering throughout
this movie was why. It's like, why why is all
of this going on right now? Also, like his son
gets shot and it's supposed to be a sad scene,
and I was like, I don't know who either of

(45:18):
these people are, Like, I'm not impacted at all by this.
There was That was the thing. There was no connection
with me, at least to any of the characters. I thought.
There was definitely some funny parts, some parts that maybe
weren't intending to be funny that made me crack up.
It also seemed to me almost like kind of what

(45:39):
like the Fast and Furious movies do now, where it's
just like over the top and crazy action I was like,
this hats have been that in ninety seven. Like there's
parts of this movie where Nick Cage is running with
a shotgun in one hand and like a handgun in another,
and he's just firing both as runs. I'm like, what
is going on here? But uh, my favorite the big

(46:00):
unanswered question I had. Um, there's a scene at the
end when like they meet up. I don't know, I'm
just gonna call them by the John Travolta and their
cage because I don't know their characters names. Um, I
forgot him. But they meet up and Nick Cage says,
I don't know what I hate more, being trapped in
your face or your body. And I was like, but
I thought you were in your own body wearing his face.

(46:23):
Which yes, technically they stayed in their own bodies and
they had cosmetic surgeries. Because here's the thing they had
to sort of work around the fact they had to
write around the fact that physically, John Travolta and Nicholas
Cage have very different body types. One is taller than
the other, ones a little bit heavier than the other.
They have different face shapes. There's right around that their

(46:46):
shoulders are massively different right, like Nick Cages are like dad,
and and that was I was like, his wife wouldn't
realize that. Why wouldn't be like, hey, why is your
face on a completely different humans body? I you know
they're I went back. I went back and rewatch it
because it had been a while, admittedly since I had
watched it from start to finish, and I really forgot
how unintentionally funny the movie was. Um, it is absolutely hilarious.

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I mean, one, you have Nick Cage being Nick Cage
and just chewing scenery the whole time, and we meet him,
we meet Castor Troy, his character, that's it. Yes, when
he is at the La Convention Center and there is
a youth choir randomly singing choral music in the middle
of the LA Convention Center on her, which is bizarre,

(47:33):
Like I've been at the LA Convention Center, Like that
just doesn't really happen. But Nick Cage, dressed as a priest,
goes and, let's be honest, like physically assaults a young lady,
just grabs her, grabs her rear in while she's singing
her here's like a close up shot of that happening too.
I was like, this wouldn't fly today and like and no,
but no one acquire notices or says it just like

(47:53):
takes us a couple She just lets it go like
no big deal. Some stranger just walks up to you
and grabs your butt and like it's not a big deal,
over the top action. It's it's a John Wu staple.
If you ever seen another John Wu film, there there
are a lot of John Wu elements in this movie.
A lot of obviously explosions and gunfire, a lot of
slow motion, and you always have a scene where there

(48:16):
are doves randomly flying and that was you had it
at the end where you have a shootout in a
church and randomly there are doves flying through the church
at the end. That is a John Wu thing. I
didn't I didn't pick that up. Like I was just like, oh,
but yeah, no, that's definitely a big, a big part
of it. I had a lot of stuff that I
was wondering, like what Nick Cage I thought was the

(48:37):
best part of the movie. Oh yes, Um, he's really
the best part of any movie he's in. Yeah, like
his facial expressions, everything. One part that made me crack
up was when he's in prison, which I was like
what are these boots that they have to wear? Like,
But and he said, what's his character's name, Caster Troy.
So he's chanting I'm Caster Troy. Yeah, and then he
starts like crying, like I know, you're supposed to feel bad.

(48:59):
You're like, oh, he's see personate the person who killed
his son, and must be terrible. I was like hysterical
laughing at that point. I mean, he's in a prison
wearing magnetic boots. It's a prison, by the way, that
is a secret prison, apparently built inside an offshore oil rig.
Oh yeah. When he escapes, he climbs up a ladder.
It comes out of a hatch and he's on top

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of an oil rig like in the middle of the
ocean or something like that. John Travolta at one point
also is just like hanging off like a water tower
and they're like, oh, he's a little different right now.
That's that's what makes you realize he's not talk. The
coolest part of the movie actually, in my opinion, was
how well each actor was able to portray the other one.

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So it's funny you say that's because one of the
fun facts is Nicholas Cage and John Travolta spent two
weeks together before filming learn how to mimic each other,
like they actually genuinely sound like the other person. I thought,
maybe you can't change your voice, but like the mannerisms
and how they were talking, I thought they did a
great job. Yeah, I mean especially I think for Travolta,
it's harder because Nick Cage is just so nanos and

(50:00):
over the top all the time that he really had
to kind of ham it up. But I thought they
did a great job of that. By the way. Other
pairs of actors that were considered for this movie included
Arnold Schwartzenegger and Sylvester Stallone, Harrison Ford and Michael Douglas,
which I don't know about that one. Bruce Willis and
Alec Baldwin could have been interesting. That one would have

(50:22):
been good. Alpaccino and Robert de Niro, which I don't know.
Now that I've seen Heat, I could not imagine them
doing this movie. Like you have Heat, which is like
very serious and dramatic, and then you have this which
is just over the top. M Jean Claude van Dam
and Steven Seagal, which that might have been really really fun. Yeah,
with those two and Denzel Washington and Wesley Snipes, which

(50:44):
I could I think I paid money to see that too.
I would have paid a lot of money to see
Arnold Schwartzenegger and Sylvester Stallone try to sound like the
other one or try to act like the other first. Yeah,
that would have been That would have been amazing to
kind of watch those two guys. Dude. Then they ended
up in The Expendables, so I guess they got to
work together anyway. Other fun notes, the studio wanted John

(51:04):
Wood to take the slash out of the title. If
you look at it, it's actually face slash off, but
he kept it in so people wouldn't think it was
a hockey movie. That makes a lot of sense, because
if you went anything in a hockey movie, you were
gonna get incredibly confused. The one other thing I had
that thought about this movie was I was happy that,
like in like the prison escape scene, people get got

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you know, and in a lot of action movies, it's
just like I'm gonna punch the guards and then they're
out of it for the whole Like no, no, no, no
no no. They made this one like, hey, he's this
is how you would have to escape a maximum security price,
So like that part was cool. It was just a
lot of over the top, Like it also felt like
um like Peter Griffin fighting the Chicken, almost like yes,

(51:47):
like these two are gonna fight endlessly, no one's ever
gonna come out on top, and they're just for the
rest of time going to I mean, Nick Cage says
like maybe we should just kill each other at one point,
and it's like even he's like, what are we gonna
be doing here? I mean the very last fight on
the speedboat, like cruising around the harbor at ridiculous speed.
That fight went on forever. It was like thirty minutes

(52:09):
of movie times the boat crashes, they get hurled fifty
feet in the air and still have enough image to
get up and keep fighting afterwards, like it's amazing. It
felt like they were like, we need to have a
fight in every type of like scenario that we can.
Like they were just like, we're gonna throw him on
a boat, We're gonna throw him in the ocean, We'll

(52:29):
throw him on in prison, like anywhere we could put him.
We're gonna make him fight. The other question I had was,
how does like I understand Nick Cagees say his character
is like, you know, a top gangster or whatever, a
terrorist basically, yeah, how do they just like willy nilly
just invade the FBI and like no one knows about it? Ye,

(52:51):
that's a good question. I don't know, Like, yeah, the
f this this unit of the FBI, they don't seem
well organized or or there's no oversight apparently for this
this organization within the FBI. Just thought of one line too,
when I forgot his name, but John Travolta when Sean Archer, yeah, yeah, yeah,
after he like gets the bomb or whatever, and he's

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like celebrating in the office and one of the workers
is like, did you have a surgery? I was in
tears at that. I was like, this is like they
had a cram in like a bad action line that
or actually, what I thought you were gonna say is
actually after he diffuses the bomb and he's on the
news and they say, what do you have anything to
say to the person who did this? And he said,
if he's listening, interception, yes it's our ball now or whatever.

(53:37):
Like I actually had to posit because I was laughing
so hard. I was like, oh man, they're trying to
put in like cool tough lines and just like I
don't know if we could, like I don't know, what
if we have the rights like we should, if we
could clip that and like use that for the podcast
where it's just John Travolta saying interception, we have the
ball now or whatever it is, it'd be amazing. Should
be like Jameis Winston's catchphrase. All right. So, I mean

(54:00):
there's plenty of we could go on for a long
time talking about this. Would you watch this again? Probably not.
I will say like when I watched T two and Speed,
I was locked in, like I was this movie. More
often than not, I caught myself being like, oh no,
I have to put my phone down, like I need

(54:21):
to pay attention. Because there was a lot of times
where I'd be like like into it and then like
I don't know, I'd just be like, yeah, let's see
what's going on to because I don't know. But maybe
if it was on like cable, I'd throw it off
for a little bit. But I don't think i'd ever
sit down and watch it from start to finish. This
is the first time I'd watched it start to finish
in a long time, and like I said, I forgot

(54:41):
how unintentionally hilarious it was. And this was different because
the first two movies were universally loved, right, Terminator two
one of the highest grossing films of all time. Speed
was both a critical and commercial success. People love that movie.
You know. When I said we were watching face Off,
there were mixed reactions on the office. Ryan's Ryan couldn't

(55:03):
do it the first time. Albert was like, it's the
best bad movie ever. Like, you know, they were, there
were mixed There were mixed emotions about this way all right,
would you sit down, someone who hadn't watched it in
a while, would you sit down and watch it start
to finish again? Probably not sober, Probably not sober. No. Um, yeah,
now that I've done this and I've done this for
the first time in a while, like I feel like

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that's that's enough. I also love that. Um. John Travolta's
family thing was just like to rub that and then
like that was always creepy to me, that the swiping
of the face and then it just becomes the stealing
of it. I was like, I get that it's for
the movie, but yeah, just putting three fingers and running
them down someone's face that's weird, Like, don't don't do
that to me, don't do that, but you know I'm

(55:45):
going to take his face off like that. It all
led here, like no, don't let that guy get drunks anymore.
Like that's the craziest one about this that it all,
It all led just to that one, that one moment.
All right, So we are back with a film festival
next week. Very excited for what we have coming up

(56:07):
on next week's show. I was really debating about what
to do next week, but the fact that Quentin Tarantino
has announced a new movie, which allegedly will be his
final movie, coming out very soon, I felt like it
was time to go back to the one that really
sort of put him on the map. It wasn't his
first film, but Pulp Fiction nineteen ninety four. That was

(56:27):
the one that I think sort of launched him into
the next level and made him a kind of a
muscy director. It's a movie that, for me, the first
time I saw it really change the way I looked
at movies. So Pulp Fiction next week, nineteen ninety four.
I'm excited because I love Quentin Tarantino movies like The
Kill Bills, reguard Dogs Once upon a Time in Hollywood,

(56:48):
I thought was really good. I've only seen pulp fiction
once and it was not from start to finish. Okay,
so like I'm very very and it was years ago.
Like I'm very excited to watch this one because I'm like,
I love all of his other movies, so why wouldn't
I love like the one that he gets so much
credit for being the one that launched him. So I
will say this because at spoiler alert, the story is

(57:09):
not told chronologically. You may have seen it from start
to finish and realize because it's sort of told out
of order. But looking forward to that one, I always
love launching producer Hype them just walked in, which now
tips the scales in favor of face loves face off.
He absolutely loves face off. He just did the face
off maneuver as he sat down there, So yeah, that

(57:29):
that tips to scale. So we have more face off
lovers in this room? Did face off non lovers in
the room? Oh by way? Actual, I should we go
back real quick. But before we get out of here,
um did get a note and I should have pulled
this up, and I'm sorry that it was in my
email and I don't have it pulled up, but we
talked about speed and I mentioned that there is a
Speed two. H someone mentioned to me in my email

(57:52):
that there is a Speed three apparently, let's see. Oh
from Mark Fairley, who a long time listener, first time
calling after to the pot, I couldn't help but make
you aware of Speed three, which is one of the
best episode of the critically acclaim at nineties TV show
Father Ted. I think it's actually I think it's I
don't think it's real. I think it's actually a spoof.
As part of I was gonna say, do I need

(58:13):
to like binge speed two and three because you told
me two wasn't very good. Two wasn't very good. I
never saw it too. I just heard it wasn't very good.
It didn't do very well. Is the same things on
a cruise ship, which seems a little bit harder to
pull off than a bus. Yeah, basically, Also, you're in
the middle of the ocean, so just jump off the boat. Yeah,
there's life boats, jump off the boat and like just
let the boat keep on going. So yeah, so apparently

(58:34):
Speed three is not actually real. It's it was a
bit as part of a TV show, So anyway, that'll
do it for this edition for the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast,
they happy, safe and healthy, do good and live well,
Enjoy the weekend, stay drive you live in southern California,
and we'll talk to you next week. Don't go the bat,

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don't go