NFL Fantasy Football Podcast: Offseason Mock Draft #1

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Wow, Hey everybody, It's Wednesday, May twenty fourth, twenty twenty three.

Speaker 2 (00:15):
Welcome to the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast where we're mocking
the mocks. It's me and your man, MG Marcus Brand
joined by Michael F. Floria. We got a couple of
specialists cause we're in studio. Shout out to Josh and Susan.
Thank you for hanging out with us. We appreciate it.
We appreciate you all listening as well. Uh Floria, we
got we got business to attend to in this one today.

Speaker 3 (00:33):
Yeah, we got to talk about con Air.

Speaker 2 (00:34):
We gotta talk about con Air. We are going to
continue the film festival. We are talking con Air today,
but also primarily we're doing a mock draft. So we
got a bunch of our friends from around the industry.
Some you may know, some you may not. Are Pal
Lakwan Jones, that real deal Fantasy is in Floria and
I are in Who else do we have? We have

(00:55):
Joel Smith, Joel Smith, our researcher extraordinaiy and just from
across the Internet that are gonna be jumping in. So
we're gonna go through this mock We'll see how much
of it we get through. I don't necessarily want this
thing to drag out, because we do have to talk
about Nicholas Cage flying in a plane full convicts, the
important stuff across the desert. It's the important things, and

(01:17):
we have to get through here in this one. But
we are gonna do a mock draft. It is a
twelve team mock halfpoint PPR one quarterback sixty second timer. Yeah,
so we'll see if we can get through all fifteen
rounds of this one, and we will kind of break
things down as we go along. This will be the
first of I think a few mocks that we do,

(01:39):
I'd imagine should probably vary our formats as well. But
I figured this is just a general one quarterback redraft league, which.

Speaker 3 (01:47):
Is what most people play.

Speaker 2 (01:48):
Is what most people play. I know when I put
this out, I jokingly got back some responses like, you know,
calling me old or calling me basic, which that's fine.
I'm cool with being.

Speaker 3 (01:58):
It's not a dynasty superflexed premium with four flexes.

Speaker 2 (02:02):
What are you doing exactly exactly? I get it. Look, lad,
play whatever makes you happy, whatever floats your boat. I
think the majority of people nowadays are still sort of
playing simple one quarterback leagues either full point or half
point PPR. So that's what we're doing for this draft.
Maybe for another mock draft we'll do something completely different.
So just for frame of reference, I am in the

(02:25):
third slot. Florio's in the eleventh spot. We will try
and update these picks as we go along, but we've
got plenty of other things to talk about as well.
So I'm going to hit the start draft button and
there we go. We are off and running with the
number one overall pick, and it's on the board and
it's Justin Jefferson, which I feel like is gonna be
kind of consistent this offseason.

Speaker 3 (02:46):
Yeah. I had originally thought this might be a year
where there's no consensus one where like it could be
Jefferson or McCaffrey or maybe Eckler or Kelsey. But it
the more drafts I'm doing, the more and more it's like, yeah,
Justin Jefferson's that's where I have him ranked too.

Speaker 2 (03:01):
It seems to me just that's where I've got him
ranked as well. Now I'm curious though, at number two
is sort of where things get spicy because you do
still have Christian McCaffrey and Austin Eckler on the board,
You've got Jamar Chase off the board. I will tell
you that I've been in mox where I've taken Jamar
Chase at number two. U two is gonna be I
think the interesting part of this whole deal.

Speaker 3 (03:20):
It's it's I always look at drafts is like, where
are the spots where you have to make a decision?
And two is clearly one of them, because like, and
you're sitting at three. I don't want to like say
what you're thinking, but like you could be like, hey,
if I get Chase, cool, if I get McCaffrey cool,
And you don't have to make that decision. Obviously you
could want someone else. But I always like being in
spots where decisions are kind of made for you.

Speaker 2 (03:42):
Well, Christian McCaffrey goes at number two, so that puts
me on the board at number three, and I'm gonna
kind of stay true to what I've been doing. I
g said I took Jamar Chase at two before I'm
gonna tak Jamar Chase at number three right here, you know,
I look. So I'll give you my I lodge it
for taking Chase over McCaffrey previously is that. I think

(04:04):
McCaffrey's gonna be fine. I think he's gonna be very good.
What concerns me is last year, when he came to
San Francisco, he was not just a dominant workhorse back.
They still split time with him. I think he played
like two thirds of the snaps, still a nice number,
very different though than the you know, ninety to ninety
five percent of the snaps he was playing when he

(04:26):
was in Carolina. Meanwhile, Jamar Chase, I think his ceiling
is just as high. I think his potential output is
just as high as McCaffrey's. I feel a little bit
more confident though, in his floor than I do in McCaffrey,
just because the Niners are gonna go other places with
the football this year.

Speaker 3 (04:42):
Yeah, and I agree with that one hundred percent. They
have so many weapons. And the thing is, like remember
a year ago where we kept joking like who is
gonna be the first two thousand yard receiver, Jefferson or Chase?
Like that is still very much so on the lad table.
And I know Chase last year he didn't live up
to that because he missed time and stiff. But yeah,
Jamar Chase, is he could easily finish as the best

(05:03):
player in Fantasy this year, and it wouldn't surprise me
at all. But now that Austin Eckler is back with
the Chargers, for everything you said about Christian McCaffrey, I'm
gonna put Eckler as my RB one.

Speaker 2 (05:15):
Wow. Okay, it's weird. So I went outside the box.
And by the way, she update you on some of
the picks, So I went Jamar Chase at number three,
Austin Eckler goes at four, Travis Kelcey at five.

Speaker 3 (05:27):
I can't complain.

Speaker 2 (05:28):
I can't really hate it, but man, that's a you know,
I mean, you really are drafting him at a ceiling
and I guess because the gap is so big between
Kelsey and everybody else, it sort of makes sense. Joel Smith,
our researcher, takes Bjeon Robinson at number six, and uh,
waiting for Lakwan He's at seven, and we'll see if

(05:49):
he where he goes with this one. It appears he's
gonna go with Cooper Cup. Of course, the Rams fan
among us among goes with Cooper Cup. There tyreek Hill
goes at number eight, and uh, that's what happens at
number nine. So we going We've gotten We've already gotten

(06:12):
four wide receivers off the board four pass catchers. Four
wide receivers or five pass catchers, four wide receivers, a
tight end and three running backs. Make it six pass catchers. Now,
because Stefan Diggs goes at number nine.

Speaker 3 (06:25):
I'm sad he went ahead of DeVante Adams. I like,
I have digs ahead of Adams, but in all drafts
and when I'm late in the first I could get digs.
Typically because Adams is the receiver that goes, they're not
not normally digs, so he normally falls. But I'm curious,
you said you went outside the box to the box.

Speaker 2 (06:41):
Yes, sorry, I got I got described. I went outside
the box. And right now I put Jonathan Taylor as
my RB one just because I mean, at the time, look,
there was I didn't really believe that Austin Deckler was
gonna go anywhere. I mean, look, we've talked to people
that we know around here that are close to the Chargers,
and they have suggested that nothing was really going to happen.

(07:04):
But you know, there was some talk to me that
maybe they could start to lessen his workload a little
bit Florida's on the clock. By the way, I'll finish
my thought and I'll let you kind of jump in.
But you know, then, McCaffrey, I told you about my
concerns with him. Jonathan Taylor. When he's healthy, we know
he is going to be the workhorse. He's gonna get
a ton of opportunity. And even with Anthony Richardson there

(07:27):
at the quarterback position, I still think this is going
to be a run heavy offense. Now, it could be
that Richardson does a lot of the running, but I
still think a healthy Jonathan Taylor gets a ton of work.
So I had him as my RB one. I may
shuffle some things around, but that was sort of what
I was looking at when I put my rankings together.

Speaker 3 (07:44):
He's my RB three, so I don't you're not going
to get an argument out of me. In fact, I
think that there you could take the top seven running
backs depending on how you feel about. For me, I
have Josh Jacobs and Tony Pollard in there, because, like
Josh Jacobs, last year was the RB two overall, and
I don't see why they would stop feeding him as

(08:04):
much as they did Tony Pollard. We saw how good
he was a top five running back unlimited touches. So
to me, like I've seen people have Tony Pollard as
their RB one. I haven't seen anyone have Josh Jacobs,
but Bijon obviously many people have as their one Taylor Saquon.
So to me, I think this is one of those
years where like there's not a consensus top two or

(08:26):
three running backs. I think you could take that top
seven and kind of jumble them up and you'll feel
good with any of those backs, even though I have
it in a specific order that I like them, you
could be completely different, and I'm not really going to argue.

Speaker 2 (08:38):
Yeah, let me catch everybody up on the draft. So
Bjeon goes number six, Cooper Cup at seven, Tyreek Hill
goes eight, Stefan Diggs at nine, Jonathan Taylor is number ten,
just the fourth running back off the board. You went
DeVante Adams at eleven. I know you said you were
sad that.

Speaker 3 (08:56):
I almost immediately hated that pick because I was like,
I should have just Saquon. Luckily I got him in
round two.

Speaker 2 (09:02):
So yeah, So Florio goes with DeVante Adams at eleven.
Aj Brown goes twelve, and then i'man Ross Saint Brown
around the other end at the turn so Brown. So
Brown and Saint Brown go back to back. Then you
go with Saquon Barkley, so you still get Barkley near
the top of the second Derrick Henry follows him at
the two dot three. Garrett Wilson is the two dot

(09:24):
four first quarterback off the board. Josh Allen goes sort
of mid second round at two five, Brize Haul at
to six, Seed Lamb at two seven, and Nick Chubb
at two point eight. So that's pretty much cadda. We're
waiting for the ninth pick in the in the second
round there.

Speaker 3 (09:43):
How do you feel about a moan ros Saint Brown now?
Because look, me and you have both liked him for
each of the two years, and we were last season
we were like, can we please stop with this?

Speaker 2 (09:53):
Is he good? Is he good? Right now?

Speaker 3 (09:55):
He went with the first pick in this second round,
and look he's deserving of it. But man, do I
have pause taking him that early?

Speaker 2 (10:03):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (10:06):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (10:06):
I think I'm okay with it right because right now
that makes him what wide receiver? Wide receiver eight? I'm like,
am I counting that? Right? I think he's wide receiver
eight in this draft. Oh, I'm on the clock right now.
Let me go on.

Speaker 3 (10:17):
I'll talk while you go to make your face like
over a Monra, I would have taken CD Lamb for sure,
even Garrett Wilson. I have a Monroe Mores like a
borderline wide receiver one. But whenever someone jumps up the
board as much as he did like a year ago,
he was what like an eighth round pick. I'm always
just like I remember when I used to get this
guy at such a discount. I don't know if I

(10:38):
want to pay full.

Speaker 2 (10:39):
Price now, sou see. After Nick Chubb, Josh Jacobs goes
at the two nine, I took Devanta Smith.

Speaker 3 (10:46):
Ooh, you're back up.

Speaker 2 (10:47):
I'm back up against moving quick doesn't which is good.
I'm glad it's moving along all right. So I'm back
on the board.

Speaker 3 (10:54):
So right now, Marcus has Jamar Chase and DeVonta Smith
too young electric wide receivers. Curious what you do here,
because the third round is an interesting round where you
could go.

Speaker 2 (11:08):
Tight end if you want, which is what I'm exactly
going to do. Travis Kelcey's off the board, so I'm
gonna take Mark Andrews though with my third round pick.

Speaker 3 (11:15):
And look, obviously Kelsey's the tight end one, but a
full almost a full two round discount of Mark Andrews,
that's that's a good value.

Speaker 2 (11:22):
I think. Yeah, No, I'm thrilled with it because look,
Travis kelce is We've said this before, He's in a
tier by himself. Mark Andrews is sort of in his
own tiers.

Speaker 3 (11:30):
I think he should be, Like, I think there's a
big three tier, but I think he should be in
his own number two.

Speaker 2 (11:37):
Yeah, he's kind of his own number two. And then
I think below him, that's when you start getting to
the you know, the Kittles, the Hawkinson's Waller, Kyle Pitts.
I know we've talked about this before. There's like a
handful of guys you can sort of put them in
any old order, but they're all kind of in that
third tier right there. So yeah, so right now, I'm

(11:58):
not gonna lie to you. I'm happy with my start.
Jamar Cha, DeVonta Smith, and Mark Andrews are my top
three picks. I probably catch up this. So I took
DeVante Smith at to ten, Kenneth Walker goes at to eleven,
Jalen Waddle at two twelve, and I really went back
and forth between Smith and Waddell. I went with Smith.
Te Higgins starts the third round, followed by Najie Harris.

(12:20):
I took Mark Andrews. Patrick Mahomes goes at the three fourths.
We got the top two quarterbacks off the board already,
Chris Olave at the three five, Tony Pollard at three
dot six, which I don't think is ridiculous, but I'm
sort of surprised that he has gone after, you know,

(12:40):
guys like Kenneth Walker, after Najie Harris, because everybody loved
Tony Pollard, right, We wanted Tony Poller to get all
of the smoke, and at the moment, there's really nobody
there to challenge him for touches, right Ezekiel Elliott still
a free agent. I know there's talk that maybe he
comes back, but right now, this is the Tony Pollard Show.

(13:01):
So the fact that he's still hanging in behind Kenneth Walker,
who's got competition, Najie Harris, who's in a bad offense,
surprises me a little bit.

Speaker 3 (13:10):
Yeah, I just said I have him as a top
seven running back. I would like to me. I think
he could be a late first round pick, and I'm
fine with that early second. Anything later than that is
a steal. And Joel Smith, look, he's very smart. He's
our researcher for a reason. He's building a squad with
Bijon Lamb and Tony Pollard. He does and like the

(13:30):
past catching upside that he's got. He's taken two running
backs in his first three picks, but has enormous pass
catching upside. When you know, if Bijon is the guy
we think he's going to be, I mean, I don't know.
I'm sure you've seen the video of him lining up
at wide receivers. Oh man, you know Twitter's going, that's
over that. We know what Tony Poller can do catching
the football.

Speaker 2 (13:49):
And then Cede Lamb, who's you know, probably gonna get
one hundred and thirty targets or more this year. The
pass catching upside Joel's putting together is pretty legit. At
this point, after Pollard, Jalen Hurts goes at the three seven,
followed by Deebo Samuel and DK Metcalf. Now we got
our social media guru Aaron Tan on the board, and

(14:11):
Aaron has started back to back running backs, Jonathan Taylor
and Derrick Henry. So I'm curious to see what he
does with his third pick. I will say this, there's
a lot of upside there with what Aaron's got. There's
a lot of risk involved too, just because as much
as we loved and he goes Travis Etn. So he

(14:31):
starts running back, running back, running back. So floyal is
on the clock, So I will fill a buster while
he makes his pick. Aaron Tann starts with three running backs,
Jonathan Taylor, Derrick Henry, Travis Etn. There is a lot
of potential upside if you know, if Taylor stays healthy,
if Dereck Henry, who you know has been a beast
and a machine at this point of his career, that

(14:53):
if he stays healthy, and depending on what his situation is,
if he stays in Tennessee the whole season. And then similarly,
Travis Etn, who did get a lot of work, didn't
necessarily get a lot of goal line work. And now
there are a lot of mouths to feed in that
Jacksonville offense. So it it looks like it could be great,
it could also turn out to be kind of frustrating,

(15:16):
depending on how things go there. So after Etn at
the three to ten, I'm still filibustering because Florida's gonna
be back on the clock really shortly. That's why it's just,
you know, NonStop me from I apologize to you all.
Travis Etn goes at the three dot ten. Florio takes
Amari Cooper at the three eleven, which I do want

(15:37):
to ask you about in just a little bit. Remandre
Stevenson ends the third round, and so now we're waiting
for the first pick of the fourth round. But oh
and it's Joe Burrow, which sort of makes me a
little bit sad because I was sort of hoping that
he would come back around and maybe maybe I could
stack him with Jamar Chase. But that's not going to happen.

(16:00):
So Florida was back on the clock and he goes
Calvin Ridley. All right, so you've gone three wide receivers
and a running back in your first four picks. I
gotta ask you about Maury Cooper because he is the
wide receiver one in Cleveland. How concerned are you about
Deshaun Watson.

Speaker 3 (16:17):
I mean, I'm definitely somewhat concerned, but I think I'm
the high guy ont Amari Cooper. Right now, I have
him as like my wide receiver fourteen or thirteen something
like that, and I know a lot of people have
him a lot lower than that. Last year he was
the wide receiver ten overall and seventeen in points per game.
But what I like is he's been super consistent one

(16:39):
thousand yards and six of his last eight seasons at
least seven touchdowns and five of his last six seasons.
He's one of three wide receivers with at least one
hundred targets in five straight years. So I think he's
a lock for volume. He's going to be their top
target as long as he's healthy. And the thing is, like,
he was a wide receiver one with Jacoby briss set

(17:00):
last year, and I know Deshaun Watson came in and
played pretty terribly.

Speaker 2 (17:05):
But.

Speaker 3 (17:06):
Sometimes I like, I've seen people say like, oh, Deshaun
Watson might be the worst quarterback in that division, and
I'm like, yeah, the upside is he could be the best.
Like he's that good. Like look, I'm not take everything
you want you feel about Deshaun Watson the person away,
but as a football player, three of the three and
a half years or whatever it's been that he's played.

(17:28):
He's played at an extremely high level. So I'm willing
to give him a pass and say last year was
rust And if that's the case and he ends up
looking like his old self, I think Amari Cooper could
be top ten, maybe even higher wide receiver. Oh it's
almost my turn to filibuster.

Speaker 2 (17:44):
My heart is broken. I your stacks, all of them
have gone away, Like I set myself up for three
potential stacks and they have all been blown up. Ah
all right, let me let me, let me explain what's
just happened here. So after Calvin Ridley, Flooria takes him
at the four to two, George kittle tj Hawkinson go
back to back DeAndre Swift, followed by Joe Mixon and

(18:06):
Jamiir Gibbs, and then Lamar Jackson goes off the board.
So I have Jamar Chase, Devonte Smith, and Mark Andrews
and all three of their quarterbacks are gone. I was
really hoping Jackson would fall two more spots. Thank you
Disco Spider for ruining my dreams. So Jackson is gone,
Keenan Allen is gone. So I am on the clock
here and now I got some interesting decisions to make.

(18:29):
I have not yet taken a running back, and so
what do I do on.

Speaker 3 (18:34):
A three teams have do not have a running back?
And then there's two teams that have three. No, three
teams that have three running backs already?

Speaker 2 (18:42):
Yeah, jeez what and I'm running out of time here,
I got fifteen seconds to make a decision this. Honestly,
this Lamar Jackson thing has thrown me for a loop.
So instead, what we're gonna do. We're gonna take our
first running back. We're gonna take Aaron Jones here. When
when Joe Burrow went, I was in my head. I
was like, oh, but you could pair Lamar Jackson when
Mark and jameson, I was really hoping, I mean, two

(19:04):
more spots. If Lamar Jackson falls, then I have my
stack and I'm sort of back on track. So I
ended up having to take a running back here. I
take Aaron Jones, followed immediately by Justin Fields and Justin Herbert.
So we're pretty much out of the elite quarterbacks.

Speaker 3 (19:20):
I think this is this is the trend now right now,
and I'll talk about it while you're on the clock again.
Because Dobbins and Dalvin Cook Win dobbn Cook in the
fifth round. I still if he's a Viking, that's gonna
be a steal in a couple of months. But through
four rounds there's one, two, three, four, five, six, seven quarterbacks.
And this is a draft right now where with a

(19:42):
lot of people who do this for a living and
do this all the time, and in these sorts of leagues,
historically quarterbacks go super late, like everyone wants to play
quarterback chicken, and we've already seen seven go in the
first four rounds. This is going to be a trend
this year.

Speaker 2 (19:58):
I think it's a trend because people have realized the
value of having a even if not an elite level quarterback,
a very high level quarterback, you can you can still
make it work by taking a mid to late round guy.
But I think the days of you waiting until the
ninth or tenth round and having a guy that you
can plug in every single week, I think those days

(20:21):
are done. Because now if you're waiting to the ninth round,
I mean, who are you getting. You're getting Matthew Stafford,
you know late career Matthew Stafford. You're getting you know
Geno Smith, who's a nice piece, but not necessarily that guy,
Jared Goff. I mean, those are the guys that you're
getting if you're waiting till late round. So now, yeah,
you see Josh Allen in the second round. You see
Patrick Mahomes and joh Jalen Hurts in the third. We

(20:44):
have four quarterbacks go off the board in the fourth round.
That used to be unheard of in in you know leagues,
with you know, with the sharps, with the analysts. It
just wasn't something that you did, all right. So after
I took Aaron Jones, I mentioned Justin Fields and Josh
Josh Justin Fields, Justin Herbert, I'll get it right. That's
how we finish out the fourth round. Fifth round starts

(21:06):
with JK. Dobbins at the five to one day, Dalvin Cook,
as Floria mentioned, at the five two. I took Terry
McLaurin at the five to three pick, which DeAndre Hopkins
goes right after him at five to four, Drake London.
And I'll say I was debating between McLaurin and Drake London.
I went McLaurin instead. Uh, And then you got DJ

(21:27):
Moore now of the Chicago Bears, at the five six,
Mike Damian Pierce at five seven, Mike Evans at five eight,
Miles Sanders goes at five to nine. Wanted him, and
so now we got Aaron back on the board. Who
I should mention Aaron took George Kittle as a forty
nine er fan. I want to say that he's being
kind of homerssh but George Kittle in the fourth round

(21:47):
not a bad play pick. He also gets his first
wide receiver at Mike with Mike Williams at the five ten,
So that puts Florio on the clock at five eleven
and just sort of shuffling through some of the top
positions as uh up, Florial gets his stack with Calvin
Ridley and Trevor Lawrence. He comes back around and gets

(22:07):
Trevor Lawrence there, so uh, not a bad stack to me.

Speaker 3 (22:11):
Lawrence is the fall off at quarterback. Like I think,
I don't think he's as good, let's say, as like
Fields and Lamar and those guys, but I think he's
the last one that I feel real And then we
get to like the Deshaun Dak territory.

Speaker 2 (22:24):
Yeah, so I'm like, looking at the top quarterbacks left
on the board. You got Dak Prescott, Deshaun Watson, tuah
still there, Russell Wilson, Daniel Jones, Kirk Cousins. Uh, those
guys are all still on the board at quarterback after
Lawrence Jerry Judy finishes out the fifth round and Kyle
Pitts starts the sixth round, so it's it's back to

(22:45):
Florio there. Yeah, we got a tight end run. So
Darren Waller, now who I know that you are? You
are Team Waller, So you get your guy at six.
I think that's that's pretty good.

Speaker 3 (22:56):
It was gonna be him and Pitts for me here
and and Pitts went the pick before me, which last
year me would have been broken hearted. This year me,
I'm like, could be terrible, could be a good thing,
who knows?

Speaker 2 (23:07):
Could be. I think Darren Waller is gonna be just fine.
I mean he is. I think we've said it on
this show. He is the only Giants pass catcher that
I really would try to target, just because everybody else,
I mean it's like a collection of slot receivers basically
that that doesn't really seem to excite me a whole lot,
So trythy where else.

Speaker 3 (23:28):
Going back to it real quick though, I love your
Terry McLaurin pick. I think Terry is so undervalued every year,
Like I know, the last couple of years he's been
more of a wide receiver two wish and inconsistent. But
that's all on the quarterback play. And I think this
year it could be better because if Sam hal isn't
the answer, they have Brissette, who we know can elevate,

(23:49):
who elevated Amari Cooper a year ago. So I don't know.
I feel like Terry fifth round behind some of the
receivers that he goes. I think it's a really good pick.

Speaker 2 (23:57):
Yeah, No, I'm happy with it. I mean, he's my
third wife receiver I'm rolling out there with with Chase
Smith and Terry McLaurin. I feel pretty good about that,
So I'm I'm cool with it. Where Else, I'm trying
to think of what. So DeAndre Hopkins at the five
to four seems interesting just because Kyler's gonna be out
for a while. We've seen Colt McCoy fifth round for

(24:20):
d hop I mean, I guess you're sort of banking
that he's going to be the target monster there, but
Markus Brown's still there. It kind of scares me. A
little bit.

Speaker 3 (24:27):
I think that this offense while Kyler Murray Kyler Murray
is out, might be the worst in the league. And
uh and that is count Like I've seen a lot
of people say, like, well, Kyler could come back sooner
than anticipated, could he? He tours ACL later in the season.
I believe it was in December mid December he tours ACL.
So now we're talking about him probably not being ready

(24:49):
to around the middle of the season. And then let's
not forget the Cardinals have their pick and the Texans
pick for the next season, so they could be looking
at it like, hey, we could either get Hale Williams
or we could trade and get a ton of capital
for him or for a top pick. So like, if
they start off one in five or something like that,
what incentive do they have one to bring back Kyler?

(25:11):
And then two. We hear it all the time that
athletes kind of need to build it up mentally and
physically after a severe injury like that. I think if
you're taking d Hop there, you're banking on him getting traded.
I don't know if he saw Marcus he went on
the and I'm trying to fill a buster right now
to give you some times. He went on the im
Athlete podcast this week and he was talking about other

(25:32):
quarterbacks that he would like to play. Of course Josh
Allen being number one. Oh, we like he de Hop
talks up the Bills any chance he gets. But then
he said, like Lamar Jackson, Patrick Mahomes, and we know
the Chiefs could use receivers, Like, there's a lot of
quarterbacks out there that he's talking up that he wants
to play with. I still am of the mindset that
d Hop is not going to be in Arizona this year,

(25:53):
whether he gets traded, whether they just kind of bite
the bullet and cut him and give him what he wants.
He doesn't want to be there, and I think he's
going to get his wish. But all that being said,
I still wouldn't take him in the.

Speaker 2 (26:06):
Fifth round as around it seems it seems a little
bit spicy right now. Okay, so I'm back on.

Speaker 3 (26:12):
The Marcus is up. Last pick for Marcus was Brandon
Ayuk as his wide receiver four, which as a four,
Ayuk is exactly what you want because he has such
a high ceiling. Every single week could be a little inconsistent,
but you don't care about that when he's your four
and your second flex in this league. And then David Montgomery,
so you get your RB two there, Yeah, don't.

Speaker 2 (26:34):
I don't love it. I mean, I feel like we
have very much hit a dead zone. A lit'tle got
a lot of running backs coming off the board here.
I feel like we've kind of hit a dead spot here.
So I mean my two running backs, Aaron Jones David Montgomery.
I'm sort of banking on Montgomery having that touchdown upside
that if he comes in and he sort of plays
that same role that Jamal Williams did last year where

(26:56):
he gets the ball down near the goal line and
he's that hammer, that makes me feel I'll feel pretty
good about it. Let me just catch everybody up. After
Florio took Darren Waller at the six to two, Dak
Prescott goes at six three, Javonte Williams at six four,
and that's an interesting kind of conversation maybe to happen
a little bit. But Javonte Williams at sixty four, Cam
Akers at six five. Did we get a string of

(27:18):
wide receivers Christian Kirk with a sixth pick, Deontay Johnson
with the seventh, Christian Watson with the eighth Rashad White
goes at six ' nine. As Floria mentioned, I took
Brandon Ayuk at the six ten, Tyler Lockett. Tyler Lockett
just went off the board. Well now you well we'll
catch up here. Brandon get six ten, Jackson Smith in
Jigbu goes at six eleven, James Connor at six twelve. Uh,

(27:42):
coming back around. Dallas Goddard will start the seventh round,
followed by Chris Godwin and then David Montgomery. As mentioned,
I took at seven three, George Pickens at seven four,
Tyler Lockett at seven five. I'll tell you what, I'd
rather have Tyler Lockett than George Pickens all day.

Speaker 3 (27:59):
Oh yeah, and I know everyone loves the shiny new toy.
I will take Lockett at seven point five over Jackson Smith,
Jibba at six eleven, and DK Metcalf at three to nine.
I don't think enough people realize Tyler Lockett outscored DK
Metcalf last year on less volume, and people are like,
the volume's gonna get spread out and Tyler Lockett doesn't

(28:21):
earn a lot of targets. I'm like, okay, if we're
now taking the volume and we're spreading it three ways.
Wouldn't you rather have the guy who is the most
efficient on a per route, per target, per reception basis,
because that's what Tyler Lockett is.

Speaker 2 (28:35):
I mean, I think for me, when you look at
those two guys, the gap between them, I think in
scoring potential doesn't match the gap between them and ADP.
I think they should be a lot. I think DK
is gonna be good. I think Tyler Lockett's gonna be good.
The fact that there's a almost a complete four round
gap between them doesn't make sense to me.

Speaker 3 (28:54):
If you covered up all of the production and stuff
and you just flipped like, if Tyler Lockett looked like
DK Metcalf, he'd be going in the third round, That's
all it is. I think it's the aesthetics, like DK
Metcalf looks the part. He makes these amazing catches, which
is something that is I've learned with George Pickens, because
last year watching George Pickens, I was like, this kid

(29:15):
can ball like and then you dive into the numbers
and it's like, no, he looks great when you watch
and play, but the numbers are all very misleading. So
I think DK. Look, DK is obviously very very good,
but sometimes I think it's his style of play leads
us to elevate him further in fantasy than he should be.

Speaker 2 (29:33):
I think it's what it is. I mean, we see
the highlight reel catches, you know, like the things he
does that look amazing. But you're right, when you dig
down a little bit further, you realize that maybe it's
not all it's cracked up to be. I know, you know,
friend of the show and wide receiver savant Matt Harmon
has broken him down reception perception, which side note, if
you don't, if you don't subscribe, if you are deep

(29:54):
in this and you're not subscribing to to RP, you're
sort of losing out.

Speaker 3 (29:58):
Have you spoke, Yes, you are. It's such a great tool.
But have you spoke to him about the Seahawks receivers yet?

Speaker 2 (30:04):
Not specifically. But I do know. Look, I know that
he's always loved Tyler Lockett. You know it's hard to
not love DK. Metcalf. I know you're on the clock
right now. You know. I think he's he's thinks some
good things about Jackson Smith and Jake, But I know
that that Harmon truly believes that we're going to see
all three of those guys be productive this year. He

(30:25):
really believes that the way the Seahawks have gone about
this off season, really going all in on Geno Smith
taking Jasn where they did in the draft, he thinks
we're going to see a lot less twelve personnel out
of Seattle than we have in the past. We're gonna
see a lot more eleven personnel. That means we're gonna
see JSN on the field, which means he does have

(30:46):
the opportunity to go out and be productive. So I
know that that's been the argument from a lot of
people that maybe you stay away from JSN because can
he get on the field consistently, And I know Harmon
thinks that that's going to be true, that it's actually
going to happen there and see where's left off. So
I had Dave Montgomery at seven three, Pickings at four,
Locket at five, Evan Ingram goes at seven six, Jordan

(31:09):
Addison uh is at seven seven. Is he the first No,
he's not the first rookie receiver. We have JSN off
the board. Uh. Gabe Davis goes at seven eight. Michael Pittman.
Michael Pittman falls all the way to seven to nine.
A little bit surprising right there. Michael Thomas is at
seven ten. Florio takes Isaiah Pacheco at seven eleven. Alvin

(31:30):
Kamara goes at the seven dot twelve.

Speaker 3 (31:33):
I have two heart strings pulling me right now. Okay,
I kind of I didn't want to take Pachecko. The
internet thinks I hate Pachecko, but he felt like the
best player there. But now there's two different players tugging
at my heart strings. And there's one that I think
is the better fit for my current team. But then
the other one is just my my love.

Speaker 2 (31:55):
Okay, I'm gonna go with You're gonna take the love,
and it's gonna it's gonna I know what you're gonna do,
and it's gonna break my heart. We're going on to
do it.

Speaker 3 (32:01):
Oh wait, maybe we're thinking.

Speaker 2 (32:02):
Yeah, I see, I knew I was hoping James Cook
would fall to me. Uh so he So Camara goes
into the twelfth, Marquis Brown goes top of the or
into the seventh for Camara, top of the eighth for
Marquise Brown, and then Florida you go with James Cook,
I was I didn't really think he followed me, but
I was sort of hoping maybe he'd fall to me.

Speaker 3 (32:21):
He's the one that I think fits my team better
because I'm like Pacheco as an RB two is solid,
but like, I don't know, I'll take me up like
he's the safe guy there and then I take the
upside shot with James Cook. I like doing that a lot,
like if I wait on RB two, take a safe
one and then an upside one. But my heart play
he's still available. I mean, I'll name drop because it's

(32:43):
only me and you and here Kadarius Tony is still
on the board, and yeah, I know that was hard
for me to pass up.

Speaker 2 (32:49):
Yeah, you know what, I don't know if he's gonna
make it back to you at the ninth probably not.
Maybe if he does, then I'm certain you're gonna.

Speaker 3 (32:58):
It will be three seconds out.

Speaker 2 (33:00):
Yeah, I'm having the picking snatch him up if that
is the case. What was I I mentioned to Jamontain
Williams at six ' four. Uh, we love Javonte. I
just feel like there's no clear indication of when he's
going to be ready because this wasn't just a torn
acl This is a major, nasty, nasty knee injury. I

(33:22):
know Sean Payton has been optimistic about what what he
could be or or when he could be back, But
are you would you be comfortable taking him there the
fourth pick of the sixth round.

Speaker 3 (33:34):
That's with that build, Yes, because the person who took
him has Digs Wilson, DK Metcalf, Hockinson and Miles Sanders,
who I think Miles Sanders is underrated. I think he's
gonna get a ton of work this year. So as
like an upside RB two when you already feel really
good about your build, I I could see going there

(33:54):
if he was my RB one, Like let's say I
went zero RB then No, it's to me he is
very much so one of those players that it depends on, uh,
the team that you have already drafted and Marcus, you
were on the clock, but while on Javonte Williams, not
only everything you said like it being a severe injury,
we're not sure when exactly he's going to to be there.

(34:17):
They also brought in Samaj p Ryan to be like
the the anchor early on. I would say Javonte has
a lot of upside, but we know running backs kind
of struggle their first year back off of a torny
acl Speaking of running backs, who could get a lot
of work? You took Jamal Williams.

Speaker 2 (34:32):
Who could? I didn't.

Speaker 3 (34:34):
Oh, you took Jamison.

Speaker 2 (34:35):
Sorry. I was like, wait what I saw a.

Speaker 3 (34:38):
Lion Jersey and I just but these two water receivers
that just went back to back, those were If it
wasn't Tony that fell to me, I was hoping it
was Jamison Williams.

Speaker 2 (34:46):
So uh yeah. So after let's see, after James Cook,
I'm about to be back on the well, actually I
got some time. So after James Cook, Zach sharbonegos Quinton Johnston.
So a couple of rookies back to back Juju Smith Schuster.
U h see, I know what I'm going to do.

Speaker 3 (35:02):
You are one of three teams currently that does not
have a quarterback.

Speaker 2 (35:06):
Yeah, well it's about to be two teams have a quarterback.
Because I'm gonna take the shot and I'll explain in
just as such a good value, I'm gonna I'm gonna
explain just a bit. So after James Cook, Zach Sharboney,
goes Quentin Johnston, Juju Smith Schuster is the fifth pick
of the eighth round. Dalton Schultz goes at the eight six,
Alexander Madison at eight seven, followed by Brian Robinson, Traylon Burks.

(35:29):
I took Jamison Williams there at the eight ten. I mean,
he is my fifth wide receiver. I can afford to
wait on him for a few weeks for his suspension.
Kadarius Tony goes at the eight eleven, so there goes
Florio shot at getting his guy. Brandon Cooks goes at
the eight twelve, so we go back to the top
of the ninth round now aj Dillon followed by Pat Fryarmouth.

(35:50):
Third pick of the ninth round, I went and I
took Deshaun Watson. It really is just kind of a
believing he can kind of get back to where he was,
and even if he's not the top three guy he
was in Houston, I'm sort of banking on him being
better than he was last year in Cleveland. I will
also tell you, I'll let you in on this, since

(36:12):
it's just you and I sitting in the room, I'm
probably going to draft another quarterback, which.

Speaker 3 (36:16):
Is which I was gonna say. If you wait on
Deshaun Watson, then you could still pair him with another
quarterback that you feel good about, like I'll name it's
just me and you. And here like two is still
on the board, Kirk Cousins, Jared Goff, Daniel Jones, Gino Smith,
like these are all guys that I wouldn't love as
my QB one, but as a safety blanket QB two

(36:38):
I love. And then Jamison Williams, I love his talent.
I think those last two picks, Marcus are like league
winning type picks for you because you can back them
both up. They're not starters, but if Watson, they don't
have to be your starters. I mean, but if Watson
and Williams hit on their upside, your team's gonna run
away with this.

Speaker 2 (36:57):
That's sort of cut of what I'm hoping, right. It's
like I'm able to get these guys at values and
so I can sort of add them to the roster
and have them come in a little bit later in
the year. See, Florida is about to be back on
the clock, So let's let's kind of catch things up
on where we are with the picks. Here. After I
take Watson at the nine to three, Cole Kamet comes

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off the board at nine to four, Jahan Dotson at
nine to five. Let's see who do we have. Anthony
Richardson comes off the board at the nine to six,
Courtland Sutton at nine seven, Antonio Gibson at nine eight
to a tongue of Ioloa finally off the board at
the nine to nine, followed by Rashad Penny at nine
to ten. So Florio is back on the board. Taking

(37:41):
a look at some of the quarterbacks that are still
left now. I think at this point I believe everyone
has a quarterback. Yes, everybody has at least one quarterback
so far. But some of the guys still out there.
Russell Wilson is still there, Daniel Jones, Kirk Cousins, Kyler Murray,
Aaron Rodgers still there, bryce young Geno Smith. These are

(38:03):
the guys still hanging around on the board right now.

Speaker 3 (38:07):
Receivers now are bad the receivers.

Speaker 2 (38:10):
Let's let's look at the receivers left out there. So,
I mean, your your top receivers, Zay Flowers, Darnielle Mooney,
Elijah Moore, Alan Lazard, Jacobe Meyers, Jay Adam Feeland, Jalen Hyatt,
uh these are your top receivers sort of hanging around
it is. It is thinned out significantly. Your top running

(38:30):
backs out there, Tyler Aljier, Jamal Williams, Zeke Khalil Herbert,
Elijah Mitchell, Leonard Fournette, Damian Harris, Kareem Hunt, the von
h Chain, Zach Evans. These are some of the top
running backs that are still hanging out on the board
at this point. Right now you're about to be back

(38:52):
on but I want to, you know, ask you about
your your last couple of picks when when you make them,
do not like this last pick that made have bobas
then we will talk about it. Tua Tongue Iilo is
the nine to nine Rashad penny at nine ten. We
will leave Florio's nine to eleven pick. This is a
secret till we as we talk about it. Jamal Williams

(39:13):
is off the board the final pick of the ninth round,
waiting for the first pick of the tenth round. This
thing is moving along the lift. Shall say, we still
got about five rounds left to go. But I'm looking
back at the first round one, two, three, four, five, six,
seven wide receivers and a tight end out of the

(39:35):
first twelve picks, and I get the distinct feeling that
is going to be a common situation across a lot
of drafts, I think, especially across a lot of really
hyper competitive leagues. I just don't think we're going to
see the same number of running backs coming off the board.
Early round two. You saw a few more too, three, four, five,

(39:56):
six running backs coming off the board in the second round.
All right, Oh, Florida, you went wide receiver back to
back these last two picks, Shot Bateman with the ninth
round pick and Jalen Hyatt with the tenth round pick.
You got a couple of giants on your roster wide. Yeah,
I don't just did that just happen?

Speaker 3 (40:13):
Or yeah? Because what I've learned is in drafts like this,
Remember we were saying like in all quarterback seas, everyone
now goes super wide receiver heavy. So I messed up
after I had three through four rounds and felt great.
But then my next four picks were Lawrence Waller, Pacheco,

(40:33):
and Cook. Some no wide receivers there, and receiver dried
up insane. So I felt like Bateman I had. I
was like, I gotta take my pick of Ravens receivers here,
and I chose Bateman, and I easily could have chose wrong, Like,
I don't have a strong lean at all of how
because new OC, new weapons brought in after Andrews, I

(40:56):
don't know how the target's gonna shake out. And then
I took Jalen Hyatt because I was looking at it
and I was like, I'm gonna just take the most
upside of that. I Felix on the board, and I
think he could be their top receiver this year, Like
he brings them speed out why that they need the
downfield explosiveness that they lacked. So I was like, I'll
go with some big play upside, But yeah, I could

(41:16):
easily see those two pigs just not working out.

Speaker 2 (41:19):
Yeah, I you know, here's the thing. I think. I
think Bateman's gonna be okay. I think he's gonna fit
in well in the new offense with Todd Monkin. But
I think for you, the upside is, you know, you're
rolling out here with DeVante Adams, Amari Cooper, and Calvin
Ridley pretty much every week, so that does give you
a little bit of flexibility to sort of play with
the wide receivers that you're drafting a little bit later

(41:41):
on in this one, so I don't I don't think
it's awful, and Jalen Hyatt I think falls under the
category of shiny new thing that that is sort of
there at this point. So let's see, end of the
ninth round was Jamal Williams, Khalil Herbert starts the tenth,
Florio goes with Jalen Hyatt right after that. Zay Flowers
goes right after that. So those two Baltimore Wide receivers

(42:03):
go within about four picks of each other, followed by
Chicka con Quo and Donovan People's Jones. Chick A con Quo,
I know, I know we all sort of like him.
It does feel like a dice roll though with the
guy like that.

Speaker 3 (42:18):
To me, he's one of those I know. So we said,
like there's there's Kelsey and Andrews and that big third
tight end to me, which takes you through tight end seven.
After that there's like Evan Ingram, David and Joku and
and you know other tight ends that that you can like.
But if I miss out on the top seven tight ends,
I want to double dip, you know, like I'll take

(42:40):
like a Chig and Dalton Schultz or something like that,
or any sort of combination of those tight end twos.
But I would not want to just head into my
league with just one tight end if I miss out
on the top seven. Joel Smith is is drafting an
amazing team.

Speaker 2 (42:57):
Joel's the gut punched me man. Like I was looking
at Daniel Jones, I was gonna I was gonna follow
up my Deshaun Watson pick with Daniel Jones, But thanks
to Joel Smith, it's not gonna happen because he took
him at the ten.

Speaker 3 (43:08):
Seven, exactly what you wanted to do with Deshaun Watson.
I think Joel did the right way with Anthony Richardson,
Like you get Anthony Richardson first to ensure that you
have that upside quarterback, and then you take Daniel Jones
or he could have took Geno Smith or any of
these fallbacks that he feels good about. Then you have
a guy that you could start early on, so you

(43:28):
don't have to start Richardson if you want, But you
have so much upside with Anthony Richardson. It's exactly what
you did with now Deshaun and your QB two. But
I think it's what you want to do if you
have Deshaun or Richardson, which is what or Tua even,
which is the quarterbacks that I want if I miss
out on the elite guys.

Speaker 2 (43:47):
Yeah, so let's see after let's see, let's let's catch up.
So Zay Flowers at the ten three, chick Akonkuo at
ten four, Donovan People's Jones at ten five, Ezekiel Elliott
Lakwan takes him at the ten six, which is, you know, look,
Zeke's gonna sign somewhere. We just don't know where or when.
But I can't imagine we're gonna get to week one
and Ezekiel Elliott's not gonna be on a roster, so

(44:07):
he goes to the ten six. Daniel Jones we mentioned,
Joel Smith taking him at ten seven. Joel putting together
a pretty nice roster here. Damien Harris goes at the
ten eight, Jack McKinnon at ten nine. My QB two
is Aaron Rodgers. I take him at the ten ten.
This is where we are now that Aaron Rodgers is
a QB two on a roster. Jacoby Myers at ten

(44:28):
eleven and waiting on the final pick of the tenth round.

Speaker 3 (44:33):
And it's kind of Kyler.

Speaker 2 (44:35):
You know what, I'll say this, I thought about taking
Kyler Murray and kind of taking him as a second quarterback,
but it felt like too much risk. I'm like, I'm
waiting to see what Deshaun Watson's going to be. I
also don't want to have to be waiting for Kyler Murray.
You know, if you take Deshaun Watson and he turns
out to you know that last year wasn't the fluke
and that he is still un good. I also don't

(44:56):
want to have to be waiting who knows how many
weeks for another quarterback to get help for me.

Speaker 3 (45:00):
Yeah, I'm gonna be letting other people draft Kyler Murray
more than likely this season. But if you take to
me where Kyler fitz is backing up the elite quarterbacks,
like if you take one of the top quarterbacks, because
then you know those guys are going to be playing
early on and you have Kyler as a fallback in
case of injury or something like that, but even more so,

(45:20):
you have a trade piece like and what I would
do in that situation is I wouldn't even wait for
Kyler to play a snap, Like if he's coming back,
say week six, Week four, and five. I'm trying to
trade him because the hype will be at its highest.
But yeah, I think that's where Kyler Murray kind of
suits in.

Speaker 2 (45:38):
So Kyler Murray last pick of the tenth round. Darnelle
Mooney starts the eleventh round. Dalton Kincaid goes at eleven
to two. I take Tyler Algier at eleven to three.
I know we love Bijon. I know a thing that
Cynthia Friedland has cautioned is that Tyler else, you're still
going to have a role in this offense. I don't

(45:59):
know how it's gonna be. But I also sort of
took him with the thought that if anything were to
happen to Bijon, he steps into a big role in
an offense that's going to be run heavy, and we
saw last year he did a pretty good job with
that opportunity. So he goes eleven three. Elijah Mitchell, who
was honestly I was, I was moving the mouse back
and forth between Algier and Elijah Mitchell. I took Algier,

(46:22):
Mitchell goes right after him. David and Joku goes fifth.
Jonathan Mingo I was going to eleven six, followed by
Josh Down So we're getting a few rookies off the
board here in this round, since we're talking about Tyler Aljier.
Desmond Ridder was on Good Morning Football a couple of
days ago saying, and he thinks the Falcons are going

(46:45):
to be pretty explosive offensively in twenty twenty three. They
have the pieces to be Does that make you feel
me differently about Desmond Ridder? Though?

Speaker 3 (46:54):
No, he's a fine like late late round dart throw
if you need to QB two or something like that.
But I this is one of those offenses where there's
a lot of offenses where I'm like, Okay, I'll take
the quarterback because I don't know who this is. The
opposite it's like no, no, no, I want the playmakers. And
maybe that's bad thinking because maybe Ritter could be what

(47:17):
like Tua was last year, which is like, look, I
love two. I was very defensive of him, but somewhat
a product of the playmakers and around him. Couldn't that
be Desmond Ridder? Yes, But I'm also very scared that
Arthur Smith is just gonna run the ball a whole bunch. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (47:33):
I mean that's very much a concern that you know,
they're gonna run the ball a lot, so that's gonna
impact what Ritterer can do. He's not going to run
the way Mariota could run. Not that Mariota did run,
but he could run. See where are we now? Jonathan
Mingo at eleven to six. I know Jonathan Mingo is
a guy that people are having a lot of debate over.

(47:59):
You're about to be up, so I will I will
hold that question for a couple of minutes. But Jonathan
Ingo goes at the eleven to six from the Carolina Panthers.
Josh Downs from Indianapolis goes at eleven to seven. Dawson
knocks off the board at eleven eight, So Daltonton Kaid
and Dawson Knox both go in the same round about
six picks apart. Samaj p Ryan at the eleven to nine.

(48:23):
I think Samaj p Ryan at that spot is really
good value, just because who knows exactly when Javonte is
going to be ready, and I think either way he's
going to have a role in that Denver offense. But
if for whatever reason, Williams isn't ready at the beginning
of the year, or look if he just takes some
time to get back. I mean, we've seen guys with

(48:46):
acl tears really take a little bit of time to
kind of get back up to speed. Wouldn't be a
surprise if he has that. That situation there for Williams,
and that means Tomi J. P Ryan could end up
having a pretty decent role. So after p Ryan at
eleven nine, Romeo Dobbs goes at eleven ten. Florio goes

(49:07):
with Rashi Rice at eleven eleven, and I saw you
throw your head back in frustration because Devon A Chain
goes one pick after. I'm guessing you were targeting him there.

Speaker 3 (49:16):
I was debating which order to take those two in,
and I looked at the team after me, and I
was like four and four receiver running back. But three
of their last four picks have been on running backs.
I guess that didn't matter.

Speaker 2 (49:28):
It didn't matter. So h goes at the end of
the the d the eleventh round, Gino Smith starts the
twelfth Devin Singletary, you take him at twelve two. Just
can't quit your former Buffalo Bill Alan Lazard at the
twelve three, Kirk Cousins at the twelve four. So Jonathan Mingo,

(49:50):
I know there's a loud. Course of people out there
that just don't like Jonathan Mingo. They just think, you know,
skills wise, there's some there's a lot to be desired
that it's just kind of uninspiring. But I also feel
like there's a course of people who are like, look,
look at the rest of that receiving cores in Carolina.
There's plenty of opportunity for him to go out there.

(50:10):
NBA Playmaker, which school of thought do you fall into?

Speaker 3 (50:15):
Somewhat in the middle, I think that there is plenty
of opportunity for him to go out there. It wouldn't
surprise me if early on if he's the third wide receiver,
because they I think Adam Thielen and DJ Shark will
start as their top two, but I think Mingo could
quickly push them away, especially if they let him play
in the slot. I liked Mingo a bit as a prospect,

(50:38):
but I do think he's getting like landing spot matters.
But I think there's some people who are over hyping him,
And to me, I'm like, Okay, you just like you
fell in love with the landing spot, you didn't watch
the prospect. But I do think there's upside here with Mingo.
I think some people are pushing it too far up
a little bit, but he's someone like if he fell

(50:59):
to me where five more picks later than he did,
I would have took him over Rashi Rice.

Speaker 2 (51:05):
All Right, so I'm kind of with you. I think, Look,
I think Mingo's he'll be okay. But then again, if
you're so, he was taken by Joel Smith talking a
lot about Joel on on a good team. He's got
a good team, but he's got Ceedee Lamb, DJ Moore,
Deontay Johnson. And then he takes Mingo as his fourth receiver,
actually follows that up with Michael Gallup too, So he's

(51:25):
definitely taken some swings, but he's got a good core
of receivers. And then it's kind of like trying to
fill in the gaps from there. I look at it as, Look,
the situation is going to be advantageous because I think
there's gonna be plenty of chances for him to compete
and get on the field. But I also sort of
look at it and say, like, yeah, both things can

(51:48):
be true. It could be that he's not. Look, there
are some things about him that are worth questioning. But
on the whole. You know, the opportunity is going to
be there, so I just don't overvalue potentially what he
could be. I guess is what I'm trying to say
this whole boy, So I take TJ Spears. Let me

(52:08):
just catch you. Actually, I'm back on the board here.

Speaker 3 (52:09):
Yeah, Taj Spears, I know is someone we could talk
about him. I know you like him a lot of
tight end two run a little bit with Irv Smith
and Greg Doltschik's going off the board there. I was
planning on taking a tight end two to back up
Darren Waller, but now I'm looking at the tight ends
that are available and I'm like, oh wait, there's one more.
I'm like, what, I might just go in with just

(52:30):
one tight end right now, thirty seconds left for Marcus.
This is the time. One, this is the time of
the draft where it really starts sitting out and stuff.
But two, it's also hard to do what we're like
to talk about and as we're doing it, so I
get it. I like, there's a couple of picks that

(52:51):
I've been like, oh man, I wish I realized this
player was about I know one that I was hoping
felt me. I didn't think he was going to but
that is a very good pick.

Speaker 2 (52:58):
All right. So now that I'm off the clock, a
catch up. So after Florio took Singletary at twelve two,
Alan Lazard goes at twelve three, Kirk Cousins at four,
Raheem Moster, we go to the twelfth round before actually no,
so devon a chin comes off the board before Raheem Mostered.
That's a little bit of a surprise to me. So
most are at twelve five, Jared Goff at twelve six,

(53:19):
Michael Gallup at seven, see Russell Wilson at eight, IRV
Smith let IRV swerve at the twelve nine. I take
ty J Spears at twelve ten. Leard Fournette goes at
twelve eleven. Greg Dulcic at the end of the twelfth round,
started the thirteenth to get Sky Moore, followed by Elijah Moore.

(53:40):
I take Kendram Miller at the thirteen three. Odell Beckham
goes in the thirteenth round at pick four, Jeff Wilson
at thirteen to five, Zach Ertz at thirteen six. I
will just tell you that I'm I'm taking swings at
this point on running backs who have potential path to
bigger workloads. Miller may get some work at the beginning

(54:04):
of the year because we're all anticipating Alvin Kamara being suspended,
so that could certainly help him. Ty J. Spears I
think might have a small role to begin with. But
you know, if people believe the rumors and the Titans
do decide to trade Derrick Henry, I think that opens
the path for him. I mentioned aljier as being a
guy who will have some sort of role I think
in Atlanta, But if, for whatever reason Bejon Robinson is unavailable,

(54:28):
then that that opened some things up there for him
as well. I'm through twelve rounds. How you feeling about
your squad?

Speaker 3 (54:35):
I easily could have liked it better if a couple
of picks were different. It's one of those things that
I loved the first eight picks of this draft, but
from nine to on I kind of hated it.

Speaker 2 (54:49):
Yeah, I mean, look, I don't I think we've all
had those mocks, right, where like one thing sort of
goes sideways and you kind of spiral a little bit.
So I totally get it. But then this is why
we do mock drafts, right, So, like you know you can,
you can sort of prepare for when things like that
that happen. Let's see, so after Zachers and Nico Collins

(55:10):
comes off the board right now, he looks like the
wide receiver one in Houston. I know it's not exciting,
but he looks like the wide receiver one there.

Speaker 3 (55:17):
Yeah, and it's gonna be funny to see where if
any of the rest of them go, because like seeing
three Dolphins running backs go within like fifteen picks, it's like, yeah,
that's understandable. It could be very similar with the Texans
receivers because like we could say Nico Collins is the best,
and then someone else could be like what about Tank
Dell and what about John Metchi or Robert Woods. So

(55:38):
like I wouldn't be surprised to see him all go late.
But yeah, I don't think anyone should be going too
much earlier.

Speaker 2 (55:45):
Yeah, no, I mean I think where where he went,
I think that that makes perfect sense.

Speaker 3 (55:50):
Oh, your boy just went, oh.

Speaker 2 (55:52):
Sorry, I clicked off, which we just Brock Purty, Oh,
Brock perties off the board. This is one of the
one of the rare mock drafts where Brock Purdy goes
before Trey Lance.

Speaker 3 (56:05):
Which is how I think it should be.

Speaker 2 (56:06):
I think it's how it should be because all signs
point to Purty being the starter come week one. But
I think people are still sort of, you know, focused
on the shiny thing, and that is Trey Lance and
seeing what his upside could be. I think it's also
going to help Trey Lance's adp that the reports at
OTAs or that he was playing ahead of Sam Darnold,

(56:28):
so it appears that he's going to get that opportunity
if Purdy is not ready to go, So that may
have something to do with it. But literally, I have
seen a lot of Trey Lance ahead of Brock Purty
in mock drafts. Let's see so Nico Collins goes thirteen
dot seven, Bryce Young at the thirteen point eight, Israel

(56:52):
Abana Kanda at thirteen to nine, Brock Purdy goes thirteen
to ten. You and Juwan Johnson's that's been You've got
tight ends that you have been big on. You got
Darren Waller, you got Juwan Johnson. You have gotten your
guys at the tight end position so far in this
mock draft. Adam Feelen thirteen twelve. I talk about life
comes at you fast and I mean Adam Thielen was

(57:15):
what not that long ago? He was a second third
round pick.

Speaker 3 (57:19):
I've been the low guy on theeling for years and
even I'm like thirteenth, last pick of the thirteenth round. Sure,
why not?

Speaker 2 (57:25):
Sure? Why not? Why not take that shot? So let's
see waiting for the first pick of the fourteenth round.
We got our first defense.

Speaker 3 (57:35):
Oh are we supposed to draft a kicker in a defense?

Speaker 2 (57:38):
You don't have to? All right, I should probably put
that in the chat. Let me know.

Speaker 3 (57:45):
My question though, is how many rookies? Is too many rookies?
Because my first four wide receivers are Adams, Cooper, Ridley,
and Bateman, and then after that all of my receivers
are rookies. I have Jalen Hyatt, Rashid Rice, and Jayden.

Speaker 2 (57:59):
Reid Jaden Reid, Jayden Reid who uh? I think it
is an interesting test case because again our Powell, Matt
Harmon is saying he thinks the ceiling is higher than
what Christian Watson has.

Speaker 3 (58:14):
Oh that's an interesting strategy right there.

Speaker 2 (58:17):
So our pal Aaron Tann social media guru here, and
I was giving him a hard time for taking George Chittle,
but He's also taken Brock Purty and Trey Lance in
back to back picks.

Speaker 3 (58:31):
I think it's a good strategy.

Speaker 2 (58:33):
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (58:34):
With the fifteenth, might as well go Sam Darnold and
then you have their quarterback locked in.

Speaker 2 (58:39):
So that way you're you're guaranteed at the forty nine
ers Week one starter. Uh huh, I'm I'm I'm a
little bit shook. I don't think it's terrible.

Speaker 3 (58:48):
If it was like you had to take two quarterbacks
to get like I don't know, the Panthers or something
like that, their quarterback room lockdown, it's terrible.

Speaker 2 (58:58):
At least you're doing it in a good offense.

Speaker 3 (59:00):
Yeah, and a good offense with great pieces and one
that historically the quarterback has been pretty good for fantasy purpose.

Speaker 2 (59:07):
He really has. So let's catch up here because Cowboys
defense goes top of the fourteenth, followed by Jaden Reid,
Trey Lance, Tank Bigsby, and then we go Justin Tuckers.
We got a kick her off the board. Sam Laporta
is the sixth pick of the fourteenth round, Rashawn Johnson,
then Kareem Hunt. So a lot of the free agent

(59:27):
running backs are off the board. There's Zeke's gone, Fournette's gone,
Kareem Hunt is gone. I know what I'm going to do,
as long as it doesn't get snatched up ahead of me.
I have my eye on somebody, and we'll see what
happens here.

Speaker 3 (59:42):
I like the Tank Bigsby pick as well, and I
mean fourteenth round.

Speaker 2 (59:46):
Yeah, it's not a bad pick.

Speaker 3 (59:47):
Four round, fourteen, Yeah, we're starting to see a lot
more rookies go. This is more rookies, and I always
feel like, especially this close to the draft, and I
mean I'm one to talk. I have three rookies on
my team. Rookies are so fresh in our heads that
I think their names kind of pop out.

Speaker 2 (01:00:03):
A little bit. No, absolutely so, speaking of rookies, I
take Michael Mayer with the tenth pick in the fourteenth round.
So between between Kareem Hunt, Michael mayor z A Jones
off the board. So we got a couple picks left
in the fourteenth and then we get to the fifteenth
and final round. I know we have been really praising

(01:00:25):
of Joel Smith in this one. Going back through his roster,
he goes Bijon in the first, Cede Lamb, Tony Polar,
Jamier Gibbs, DJ Moore, Deontay Johnson, Evan Ingram, Alexander Madison,
Anthony Richardson, Daniel Jones, Jonathan Mingo, Michael Gallup, Zach Ertz,
and Rashawn Johnson. This is, by the way, Joel drafting

(01:00:48):
from the sixth spot, so kind of smack dab in
the middle. Able to put together this roster. Not a
bad run at all. Anybody else whose roster sort of
jumps out as you here.

Speaker 3 (01:00:59):
I like, uh, the number one picks lineup a lot
with the Jefferson, Wattle Higgins, it's unloaded top three receivers.
Then you get Herbert Dobbins, Connor. I think James Connor
is undervalued right now because when Kyler Murray missed time
last year, they were forced feeding. Like he became in
the end of last season with no Kyler, he kind

(01:01:20):
of became what he was two years ago, which was
like a rock solid RB one. I liked his build
a lot. I think you you have a really nice
team as well. And then at number four the Eckler
Jacobs Mahomes start. I don't love it after that, but
I think that is such a good start.

Speaker 2 (01:01:40):
Yeah, I mean, Eckler Jacobs Mahomes keenan Allen, I think
it's okay. That's his wide receiver one, which does come
with some risk going back on the clock. Hang on,
I know exactly what I'm gonna do.

Speaker 3 (01:01:51):
So after his keen and he went de hop, which
we talked about Rashad White. I'm just not a Rashad
White guy.

Speaker 2 (01:01:56):
I'm I'm kind of staying away from the bucks where
I can.

Speaker 3 (01:01:59):
And and I've kind of said I'm souring on George Pickens,
so have him there, but that start of that roster
and then like adding like Jack Minckinnon late, Odell Beckham late,
I think there is certainly value to be had on
this team. I do like that Bill absolutely.

Speaker 2 (01:02:16):
So let's see the fourteenth round ends with the Eagles
defense and Harrison Butker. Those are the final two picks
of that round. It starts with the forty nine Ers defense,
followed by Evan McPherson. I did not take a kicker
or a defense. I finished with Marvin Mims, who's getting
a little bit of buzz in Denver, so I figured
I would take the shot on him in the fifteenth round.

(01:02:37):
Derek Carr is off the board who I'm waiting for
him to respond to Jake Hayner's photo shoot. Have you
seen the Jake Hayner photo sho Yes, yes, I need
Derek Carr respond. It's got to be some sort of
Fresno state battle. They're both Fresno state guys. We got
to figure out which bulldog is the top dog when
it comes to taking Glamor Show.

Speaker 3 (01:02:57):
They talk about that a lot.

Speaker 2 (01:02:59):
Oh, I think they will.

Speaker 3 (01:03:00):
They that's probably like what they have in common.

Speaker 2 (01:03:02):
But they haven't come exactly. So I'm sure they're gonna,
you know, every week, they're gonna be catching up on
on what's happening with the bulldogs and what's going on
in the Mountain West and all that kind of stuff.
That'll be that'll be fun for them. So Car goes
with a fourth pick of the fifteenth round. The Jets
defense is fifteen to five, Robert Woods at fifteen six.
Deontay Foreman, what he did it I almost took He's

(01:03:24):
just fifteen seven, is Deontay Forman. The Dolphins defense goes
fifteen to eight, Kayshawn Butte fifteen nine, and Aaron we
He gets the trifect that he takes Sam Darnold with
his final pick DJ Chark as you go. Florio goes
at fifteen eleven. So the final pick the uh mister
irrelevance of our mock draft, waiting to see who it is.

Speaker 3 (01:03:48):
Waiting, I considered Rashid Shahed here, who is a Patrick
Claybon favorite.

Speaker 2 (01:03:53):
He is a clay Bond favorite. Rashid Shaheed there. I
think you know you to say it, but he'll be
better in Best Ball, oh for sure, absolutely better in
Best Ball.

Speaker 3 (01:04:04):
I also considered Deontay Hardy, who I think is gonna
be the Bills three unless they trade for d Hop
and not Shakir. But Shakier's the one that's getting more
hype right now.

Speaker 2 (01:04:13):
He is getting more hype right now. I will tell
you this. I went. I went straight rookies at the end.
My last four picks were all rookies, with the tay J. Spears,
Kendram Miller, Michael Mayer, and Marvin Mims.

Speaker 3 (01:04:23):
I think that's the way to do it. You get
that like young upside late without having to pay a
huge draft price for it.

Speaker 2 (01:04:30):
And that was sort of one of my New Year's
resolutions for Fantasy that I was going to draft more rookies.
So the final pick is Daniel Carlson. That is the
final pick of this mock draft. So it is there.
It is fifteen rounds in the books. I will post
this on Twitter dot com so you guys can see
the whole board and give your thoughts on what you

(01:04:51):
think and how you think we did. All right, I
know this is Beefie. We're gonna take a quick break.
We're gonna come back and we're gonna do what we
really set out to do.

Speaker 3 (01:04:58):
Which totally forgot. We still had to do that.

Speaker 2 (01:05:00):
We we still gonna talk about con Air, right, I mean,
we watched the movie. We should do this. So if
you guys want to join us after the break, we'll
be glad to have you. Please, guys, we appreciate you
hanging out with us, but that we're gonna take a
quick break, come back, and we're gonna talk about Nick
Cage in an airplane. It's gonna be fun. That's up
next on the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. All right, back

(01:05:23):
with kind of a special segment here on the podcast,
because we're still gonna do Florio's film festival, because why not.
We all sat and watched con Air. I paid my
three ninety nine to rent it and so let's kind
of get it in here. By the way, thanks for
if you guys decided to kick in after the break
and hang out with us, we are We're grateful for that.
Now you know you didn't have to. So the quick synopsis.
Con Air, released June sixth, nineteen ninety seven, A newly

(01:05:45):
paroled X con and former US ranger Cameron Poe finds
himself trapped in a prisoner transport plane with a passenger
seas control your your immediate takeaways from con Air.

Speaker 3 (01:05:58):
I liked it. I thought it was good. I uh,
it was good in it because I like bad action movies.
I guess like as long as the action isn't two
over the top or anything like that, and this was
there was a This was good in the sense of one.
It had a lot of big name actors I think
before they really were big name, Like poor Dave Chappelle's

(01:06:19):
character deserved better than then.

Speaker 2 (01:06:21):
Pinball or ip Pinball.

Speaker 3 (01:06:23):
I still don't fully understand how he ended up where
he did.

Speaker 2 (01:06:26):
Yeah, because he was running alongside the plane and all
of a sudden just yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:06:29):
But besides that, I was like, he deserved better. But
a lot of big name actors and people that you
root for, and that's always big for me, Like I
need to watch something where I can be rooting for
the characters, and I very much so was because one
they make you like the good guy characters, but two
they really make the bad guys unlikable, right, especially uh

(01:06:51):
Danny tree Hill's character, like you're rooting for his demise
whole movie.

Speaker 2 (01:06:54):
Well, Johnny twenty three. Yeah, there's nothing redeemable about it
at all about his character whatsoever. Yeah, I mean they're
very like there are rxtremes. There's no there're no gray
areas with the characters in this movie, right, Like you
either root for them. There's you know, the Cameron po
there's Baby O like you're rooting for those guys to
make it. There's Vince Larkin who's like the heroic you

(01:07:15):
know us Marshall. And then there's the the dea guy
who's just like kind of a.

Speaker 3 (01:07:21):
Oh he's honestly, he's more unlikable than the criminals.

Speaker 2 (01:07:25):
Yeah, yeah, there's it's it's black and white, right, this
is not a movie that has nuance, Like you're not
gonna sit and really like you know, you're not gonna
have they're not gonna be think pieces written about kan Air, Right,
you just get your popcorn and you just enjoy sort
of what happens in this one. Uh. The budget of
seventy five million grows two hundred and twenty four million worldwide.

(01:07:47):
So uh yeah, this this this month, this movie made
some money. Was released, uh the same month as Face Off,
which is another movie we have watched on this.

Speaker 3 (01:07:55):
One was way better than Face way better.

Speaker 2 (01:07:57):
Than Face Off. Yeah, this one holds up way way
better than Face.

Speaker 3 (01:08:00):
Oh yeah, like Nick Cage is is better in this movie.
And but both are movies that when we were talking
about it before we recorded, I understand so many more
memes and gifts now online now that I've seen these
two movies, Like Nick Cage was such a such an icon.
The other thing I noticed too, though nineties movies. I'm

(01:08:20):
guessing it was it seems like a theme now where
like this movie like okay, yeah, he beat someone up,
kills someone because they were harassing his wife. That happens
in like thirty seconds, And like I feel this isn't
the first movie we've watched where it's like this is
what shapes the whole movie, but it happens in the
first like five minutes and that's it.

Speaker 2 (01:08:39):
Yeah, pretty much. I mean this movie wastes zero time
getting into it, right because you get Cameron Poe, you know,
coming back from his stint with the Army, immediately goes
to jail, which, by the way, it was self defense
in which he killed the guy. Like it wasn't it wasn't,
you know, an unprovoked attack, like this guy was harassing
him and his wife. He fought him, he killed the guy.

(01:09:00):
Somehow he still gets like seven to ten years in prison.

Speaker 3 (01:09:03):
And I will say I knew zero about this movie
going in so watching and I was like, oh, it's
a prison movie. And then I was like, oh, wait, no,
this makes sense. They're gonna be on the plane. And
then there's numerous times where I thought the movie was
like nearing its finish and it's like, oh, no, we're
just making a detour or something like that.

Speaker 2 (01:09:20):
These are the dumbest crud You make two different stops.
If you are committing crime and you're trying to escape,
you don't like stop for gas, you don't go pick
somebody up.

Speaker 3 (01:09:30):
And you don't get rid of some of the criminals,
like why were some of them willing to just get.

Speaker 2 (01:09:35):
Lefted off the plane, right because the rest of the
guys are you're going back to jail, You're not just escaping.

Speaker 3 (01:09:42):
That's why, like Pinball, it made sense. He was like,
I don't want to be in prison. I'm willing to
sacrifice my life to try to get back on this plane,
which I still don't know how he got to where
he got the wheels, but makes sense. The other guys
who were just like, yeah, we'll stay here, we'll so
you guys can get away, I'm like, no one would
sign up.

Speaker 2 (01:09:58):
No one would sign up for that.

Speaker 3 (01:10:00):
I also love that they just randomly started like digging
out the plane. I'm like, there's no way that would work.

Speaker 2 (01:10:04):
I will say this, The cops took forever to get there.
They were on the ground, and He's like, hell off,
how far aware are they owe ten to twelve minutes
somehow attend to twelve minutes they're digging out a plane. Cyrus,
the virus comes up with a plan of not onely
comes up with a plan of escape, but finds junk
around the junkyard to create a diagram of the airfield

(01:10:25):
that we are at.

Speaker 3 (01:10:26):
And they find so much weapons, so many like they
go from having nothing they have one gun on the
original plane or two guns.

Speaker 2 (01:10:33):
I believe so they had. So I know that Cyrus
is I have the only gun on the plane, but
I think it's because he didn't realize that there were
more guns underneath. Oh okay, he was not aware of
that until later. So for him in his mind, yes,
I'm the only gun that we have on the plane.
But then they find the other guns. They go to
this airfield, they find a ton more guns there. The
cops that are apparently ten minutes away took about half

(01:10:56):
an hour apparently to get there.

Speaker 3 (01:10:58):
That was the part of the movie where I was
like doing a whole lot in this little amount of
little time. Also, the cops would not have let them
get to Vegas, like when they're over the desert, one
hundred percent. They would have shut it down there. They
wouldn't have been like, there's one guy on there trying
to get back to his wife and kid. They would
have been like, sorry, buddy, sorry about your lucke. Yeah,
you're going down with the rest of them, and they
would have just shot him all. But uh, once they

(01:11:21):
get to Vegas, that is where I was like, that's
where Nick Cage's story would have ended. He would not
have jumped on a police bike.

Speaker 2 (01:11:29):
Nor would they be like, hey man, I did my part.
I'm going back to my wife and kid. My kid
who I've never seen in person at this point, she's
like in the second grade and I've never seen her
in real life.

Speaker 3 (01:11:39):
That that part was ridiculous. The other parts that stood
out to me was Nick Cage just straight up eats
a bullet like it's nothing like he he hits and
he doesn't even slow down. And then like ten minutes
later he's on the fire truck using his arm that
just got shot one hen and he's like At one point,

(01:12:00):
I was like, Okay, this this is where maybe it's
going a little bit too far. But the crash scene
into Vegas was a really cool like it.

Speaker 2 (01:12:07):
Was a cool shot well in it, but also like
it would have created so many casualties. Oh yeah, I
mean I thought they would have just shot it down.
You're landing a plane on the Las Vegas Strip. I
don't even care when it is, like it could be
a Tuesday evening, Like you're going to have casualties with
cars on the strip, people walking up and down the street,
and you went from like you the entire length of

(01:12:28):
the strip into downtown Las Vegas. The thing a long
way on the ground.

Speaker 3 (01:12:32):
But my other question was why did they want to
make a happy ending for arguably the worst character in
the movie, Steve Buscemi, who it's it's him versus Danny
Treill's character. For where like the other criminals are intimidated
by Steve Buscemi, They're like, you have to see what
he's a serial killer, you have to see what he

(01:12:54):
does to the people. And then like it's a happy ending.

Speaker 2 (01:12:58):
That he's leaps the little girl.

Speaker 3 (01:13:00):
Yeah, and then he's at the crowd. I was like,
so this doesn't seem right.

Speaker 2 (01:13:03):
I say this, for as much as they build up
that character, Garland Green, as much they build up the character,
he doesn't do anything. You know. I know, there's you
know the old you know that when it comes to
writing the the theory, I think it's Chekhov's gun, right,
where if you introduce a gun at some point in
the the story, it has to go off. And in

(01:13:25):
the context of this and a story with a ton
of guns, he's sort of the quote unquote metaphorical gun, right,
He's the big wild card, right, They're like, what was
the line? Like he makes the Manson family look like
the Partridge family, Like that was the thing. He doesn't
do anything. He hangs out with the little girl, they
sing the song the Girl's Okay, and then like he
escapes and goes to play, which, by the way, if

(01:13:47):
I'm a wanted serial killer, I'm not just gonna I'm not.

Speaker 3 (01:13:49):
Going no, because you're getting especially while they're searching for
criminals in Vegas, like who just escapes but the little girl?
I was happy he didn't obviously happy, he didn't or anything.
But the one thing that I think he added was
like when the when they're all freaking out on the
plane and he's just singing. I got the whole. I

(01:14:09):
was like, that's cool to be to see his like
criminal mind, like like crazy, he's kind of twisted and stuff.
But yeah, I wanted him to do something, get calls.

Speaker 2 (01:14:18):
Or actually do anything. They build him up and then
like nothing, he just he's just there.

Speaker 3 (01:14:23):
Steve Buscemi's made a career off of being that guy too,
like the one who doesn't do a whole lot in
movie just like kind of talks like that's his role
in a lot of.

Speaker 2 (01:14:31):
Movies pretty much. He's good at it.

Speaker 3 (01:14:33):
He's oh, he's great.

Speaker 2 (01:14:34):
He's been a wonderful career out of out of being
that guy. A couple other things, Nick Cage apparently traveled
to Alabama to work on his accent. I am I am,
by no means an expert on accents or dialects. I
just want if there's somebody who's listening to this pod
who is from Alabama, I need to know how authentic
was it, because I feel like it was a trash accent.

Speaker 3 (01:14:55):
I was gonna say, so, I finished this movie yesterday
and then I was like, Okay, I'm gonna do some work.
So while I was working, I just my cousin Vinnie
was on. So I love that movie. Threw it on
and that is an Alabama movie. Yes, and the accent
sounded way different than Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:15:09):
I feel like I feel like it was a trash accent.
But I just want somebody who knows more than I
do about these sorts of things to tell me.

Speaker 3 (01:15:19):
Looking at the notes, he was so June twenty of
nineteen ninety seven, like Nick Cage dominated.

Speaker 2 (01:15:25):
I know he was dominating the box office because I mean,
look face off as as badly as it holds up.
Made a lot of money. Oh yeah, in this movie
made a lot of money.

Speaker 3 (01:15:33):
So this I feel like made more than most of
the movies we've talked about.

Speaker 2 (01:15:37):
Probably it also costs, I think, more than most of
the movies. I think, Yeah, maybe Terminator two might have
cost more because that costs a lot of money. Also
made a lot of money. But but yeah, this is
up there in terms of box office success. Let's see
other notes that I thought were interesting. Some of the
people chosen to play Cyrus the virus Gary Oldman, I

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thought could have been pretty good, been Bacon, Alec Baldwin,
George Clooney, Robert de Niro. That would have been weird.

Speaker 3 (01:16:05):
It would have been weird.

Speaker 2 (01:16:06):
James Gandolfini I couldn't imagine. I couldn't imagine. Tony would
have been pre Tony soprano, but that would have been weird.
Let's see other interesting names. Michael Keaton, John Travolta, I
could see John Travolta.

Speaker 3 (01:16:20):
That would have been great if if Nick Cage and John.

Speaker 2 (01:16:23):
Travolta had movies at the same time, that would have
been amazing. Right when they're battling each other. Some of
the people chosen to play Cameron Poe, Patrick Swayze, Tom Cruise.
I don't think it would have been as entertaining if
with Tom Cruise, Brad Pitt, Keanu Reeves. I can see
Keanu Reeves as Cameron Poe.

Speaker 3 (01:16:43):
So I know all of these actors for how big
they are now, But like at the time, was Brad Pitt.
Brad Pitt.

Speaker 2 (01:16:51):
I don't think he was quite to the Brad Pitt
level that you know him now, but he was. I
think he was still like heart throb, you know, Brad Pitt.

Speaker 3 (01:17:00):
Johnny Depp, I know, was very big at that point on.

Speaker 2 (01:17:02):
Yeah, Johnny Depp was definitely a big deal.

Speaker 3 (01:17:04):
The others like Schwarzenegger, Stallone, Steven, they were big deal
fan damn. Like those would have been very different movies.

Speaker 2 (01:17:11):
They'd have been very very different because like with Cage,
you know, there's the action part of it, but there's
also sort of like there's kind of the wink in
the nod that he's just goofy at the same time.

Speaker 3 (01:17:22):
And and like the scenes where like his hair is
blowing in the wind and stuff like that would have
been so different. Yeah, absolutely, So you know it's a
different movie. The bunny scene would have been significantly less funny.
I think if it was any of those.

Speaker 2 (01:17:35):
Guys, couldn't you put the bonet.

Speaker 3 (01:17:36):
Back in the box? That accent was so bad when
he said it.

Speaker 2 (01:17:40):
That was terrible, so terrible that one. All right? So,
I mean it sounds like you enjoyed this movie? Would
you would you willingly watch it again? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:17:49):
Oh yeah, because it's one of those movies where like
you could kind of just mindlessly watch. And I live
for movies like that, Like I love throwing movies on that,
like you can just kind of get lost in and
not really pay attention. It's why we like Fast in
the Furious Podcast so much.

Speaker 2 (01:18:03):
So I got ask because I know you're you're putting
a ranking together of of the movies we watched so far.
Was it Pulp Fiction was one? Speed was two and
point Break two? And Speed three? Does this? Does this
crack the top three?

Speaker 3 (01:18:18):
So that's the thing. I haven't added it yet because
I keep going back and forth, like do I want
to put it after the Keanu Reeves movies. I don't
think it's gonna top point Break, but I think it
might slide in with It's either gonna be three or
four for me with then I'm like, Terminator two probably
is a better movie, but I don't know. I just
if you can't tell. I enjoy very bad action, but

(01:18:40):
a ton of action.

Speaker 2 (01:18:41):
That's part of the reason I wanted to do this,
because like, I want to watch some bad actions.

Speaker 3 (01:18:45):
They're so entertaining, you know, Like I get made fun
of like Four Brothers as a movie. My friends make
fun of me all the time for liking but I'm like,
but it's mindless action and stuff like I enjoy that.

Speaker 2 (01:18:56):
Yeah, So that's that's why I'm enjoying this series. So
all right, So, so a big thumbs up for con Air.
Next week, we're hoping to get our pala Quan Jones
on the show, and he made a request. He wanted
to talk about the Last Action Hero from nineteen ninety three,
Arnold Schwarzenegger. I will I will actually come clean to

(01:19:16):
say that I've never actually seen The Last Action Hero,
so this will be new to me too.

Speaker 3 (01:19:20):
So next week it's both of us.

Speaker 2 (01:19:22):
Next week it'll be both of us, and so hopefully
Lakwan is available to come in and talk about it,
because that'll that'll be fun. He's he will be the
expert on this film. I have actually honestly never seen
this movie.

Speaker 3 (01:19:32):
That to be honest, you are like the pop culture guy,
like if you haven't seen something, I'm very shocked.

Speaker 2 (01:19:39):
Because like there's I don't know how I missed it.
I was like thinking about this, like how did I mean,
like it was that summer. I would have been sixteen.
It was prime movie going time for me. For whatever reason,
I just somehow has eluded me all these years.

Speaker 3 (01:19:52):
There's very few movies I feel like that I've ever
been like have you seen this and you've said no.

Speaker 2 (01:19:56):
To Yeah, this is one. I don't know. It's just
it's somehow has just slipped through my fingers. So I
look forward to watching this one.

Speaker 3 (01:20:03):
There you go, Hey, that's to be the thing. Whenever
we have a guest, it should be like, give us
one movie that you want us to watch.

Speaker 2 (01:20:09):
That's true. Maybe that's what we do because we're just
start reaching out getting guests on and we can have
them come and talk about movies that they enjoy. All Right,
this has been a beefy befeat long show. Thanks to
everybody who jumped in to help us out with our
mock draft. Thanks to all of you who sat and
listen to all of this, especially if you stuck around
for the movie portion of this whole thing, We're certainly
grateful that you spent your time hanging out with us.

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In the meantime that I'll do it for this edition
of the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. Stay happy, safe and healthy,
do good and live well. Enjoy whatever bad action movies
you want to watch, and we will talk to you
next week. But at the book a boat Boy. Take

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