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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Wow. What is Welcome to another edition of the NFL
Fantasy Football Show. It's me your man, nam G. Marcus Grants,
still fully vaccinated, still dodging variants like Neo in the matrix,
Joined as always by producer Justin and the specialists on
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the other side of the glass. I think they had
a friends giving yesterday, which makes me wonder if I'm
their friend, because I don't think anybody told me about it.
But but that's cool. That's cool. Don't worry about me.
I'll be all right anyway. I'm also enjoined here. It's
all good. Seriously, it's fine. Um. I'm joined here to
the left by Michael f Florio, who I know you
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are trying to plan your Thanksgiving Day around your Bills
playing in the evening. Oh man, I didn't realize that
because originally I was just gonna stay home on Thanksgiving
and watch football. But then I got invited to to
Nicolet's families and and we agreed, and then I realized
the Bills play at five twenty, and I was like,
all right, I can kind of swim it. And then
they we're like, oh, we're gonna do a late afternoon dinner.
And now I am frantically trying to get out of
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getting home early because it's suddenly a big game for
the Bills. Yeah, absolutely it is. I mean they're they're
kind of scuffling a little bit. They they're looking up
at the Patriots and uh, you know, they gotta they
have to keep winning basically because, uh, you know, the
Patriots are playing some good football right now. So we
got plenty to talk about though today because we're gonna
have a whole slate of games to go through. We
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know there are three Thanksgiving Day games, there's a whole
bunch of games on Sunday. Uh, so we will dive
into that. We also have some Thanksgiving theme questions for
Week twelve, and we're gonna have some sleeper picks for
you as well. So with all that in the rear
view mirror, now let's look ahead and dive into some
fantasy headlines for the day. The first one coming out
of New York that loud cheer you heard was Giants
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fans rejoicing because they have a new offensive coordinator. They
released Jason Garrett from his coaching obligations after an abysmal
loss to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers on Monday Night and
Freddie Kitchens is the man on deck now to call
plays for Big Blue. But the question is, does this
mean we're back in on the Giants past catchers? We
know said Quantinna get his touches, But you guys like
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Kenny Golladay, there is Tony sort of inconsistent. Do we
feel better because there's a new play caller there now? Uh?
Not yet. I have to see it before I can
fully trust these guys again, like I'll continue to roster
could Darius. Tony saw a big volume this past week,
didn't do a whole lot with it, But the opportunity
is what I care about. Kenny Golladay, I think you
could drop this guy at this point right now. Two
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targets last week. Uh, Freddie Kitchens, maybe he could save
the day, But there's no way I could trust him
until I see it. Because remember the last time we
saw Freddie Kitchens, his offense didn't look too great either.
That's sort of the thing, right, and we flash back
to what he was doing with the Cleveland Browns. It
was inconsistent at best. And I think you're right with
the Kenny Golladay thing that that experiment at least for
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this year in fantasy is kinda over because it just
it's not happening for him, because Darius Tony is the
only wide receiver that seems to be stching the football consistently. So, um,
I think for Giants fans, maybe you breathe a sigh
of relief because things are changing and hopefully getting better.
But I think for us in fantasy, I don't know.
I'm taking a weight and see attitude and I'm not
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particularly optimistic about it. And Freddie Kitchens, if you're watching,
and Marcus, I think we know it here of yes,
throw evaning from the ball this week you're playing. Please,
I mean, look, we might get to this in Sleepers.
I think a little bit later on in this show.
But yeah, I mean we got please please please please
all right? Uh? In Houston, the Texans have cut Philip Lindsay.
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Maybe a little bit of a surprise, maybe not, I
don't know, but he has been released, by the way
side note, Adrian Peterson also been released by the Tennessee Titans.
And I know you were saying that the fantasy twitter
was rife with Philip Lindsay's going to Tennessee jokes. Now, um, whatever, anyway,
back to Houston, though, with Lindsay out of the mix,
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are we feeling better about David Johnson, Burkehead anybody there
in the Houston backfield a little bit? At least for
this week because the Texans take on the Jets, who
give up by far the most fantasy points to running backs.
They struggle in basically every aspect to get running backs.
But I had a little bit of concern. I was, like,
watch last week David Johnson and Rex Burkeheads saw fifteen
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or more touches each. This week will be Philip Lindsay
getting that volume because they're like a month they were
just alternating. Now with him out of town, it seems
like the Texans have kind of settled on these two
in a game that I think they could either have
a leader being a close one. So I do feel
more comfortable about streaming those two options this week. You know.
It's yeah, I think that's that's the thing. They are
still streams, right, Like they're not you're not just plugging
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them in at this point that they're they're kind of
flex options, but one less mouth to feed in that backfield.
I don't think it's a bad thing. Potentially, UM does
this mean we're locking into Deonta Foreman now with no
Adrian Peterson. I think he is the lead runner of
these of this backfield. But we've seen that when they're trailing,
they're gonna go to Jeremy McNichols or don Chell Hilliard.
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It's not gonna be dontape form and getting Bonta Foreman
getting all the targets or anything like that. I think.
I think especially with them still having wide receiver issues.
I mean, Julio has gone a j Brown has kind
of been beat up. It just seems like that that
makes it harder for Foreman to get a whole lot
of work if they have to throw the football. So um,
two running back situations that are sort of messy that
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we'll try to figure our way through in the next
couple of weeks. You mentioned the Jets. This might be
the most jetsas thing we've seen in some time. Joe
Flacco and Mike White have both been placed on the
COVID nineteen reserve list, so they are unavailable for this
week's game against the Houston Texans. So I mean Zack
Wilson is back in our lives? Uh, what does this mean?
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Is this anything we should be, you know, excited, upset
about like how are how are we feeling about this now?
I mean if you would have told me a couple
of weeks ago that we were gonna be like not
happy that Zack Wilson is coming back, I would have
been shocked because I'd be like, they're they're using Josh
Johnson and my some guy named Mike White and Joe Flacco,
and yet all of those quarterbacks have put up better
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numbers than Zach Wilson has this year. So am I excited? No?
I think Zach Wilson is really only for two quarterback
leagues if you're desperate. But for the Jets pass catchers,
this is a good matchup. I would still start Elijah More.
I think Corey Davis could be like a flex option,
and then you know, I don't love Jamison Crowder, But uh,
Zack Wilson. Just keep throwing the ball to Alijah More.
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Good things are happening, That's right, That's kind of all
we want right at this point. Just funnel the ball
to the guys that we are starting, right, So throw
the ball to Elijah More. Uh, I guess that's kind
of it. I mean, I guess ti Johnson for the
people who were in deeper league, starting TI Johnson, that
sort of things on the ball to THI Johnson, and
we'll be fine, uh, because the Jets are pretty much
out of contention for much of anything else. So just
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help us, help us, help us, help you. Um in Chicago,
the Bears do play, actually they play in Detroit, but
they do play on Thanksgiving Day. Andy Dalton expected to
get to start at quarterback for the Bears. Is Justin
Fields is dealing with some injured ribs. Uh. We said
before that you guys like Allen Robinson had some of
their better performances with Andy Dalton. So do you feel
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better about guys like a rab provided he's healthy, about
Darnell Mooney, those sort of guys. Do we feel better
with Dalton starting at quarterback? This kind of sounds like
a cop out answer, but to me, it's almost like
a wash. Like Justin Fields was starting to throw the
ball a little bit better. I think Andy Dalton, I mean,
he's not gonna take as many deep shots, but I
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think he'll the targets will be the closer targets at
least might be a little bit higher quality. We know
he could put the ball where it has to be.
I haven't really changed Darnell Mooney in my rankings. I
don't have Robinson ranks because he's up in the air still.
But I think Mooney right now is like a wide
receiver three. Um that you know, he comes with some volatility.
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But I think that you could start them in a
good matchup against the lines. Yeah. I mean, I think
your point though that Justin Fields was starting to figure
it out means it Maybe there isn't any major drop off,
and certainly if Robinson doesn't, I then Mooney sees a
ton of targets. Maybe the guy who gets a boost
is that guy you see right there, Jimmy Graham catching
the football because for whatever reason, Andy Dalton seems to
like throwing too Jimmy Graham. I can't figure it out,
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but that seems to be a thing. Um, which makes
me sad because I like Cole Commet is kind of
a deep sleeper, but doesn't seem to be happening. Um.
There's also talk that Matt Naggie could be fired after
this game. Those are sort of the rumors that are swirling. Um.
Does this make a difference if if if he's out,
does it change the changes the play calling. I don't know.
It might it might change the play calling. I don't
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think it could get any worse though, because like a
Bears player came out this week and was like, yeah,
he started to lose the locker room last year and
he is completely lost it now. So I mean a
reporter X Matt Naggi, Hey, are you gonna get fired
after this? Matt Naggie said no. I would feel really
bad if you like, yeah, I am like, this is it,
this is my this is my swan song. I'm out
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after this. I could you imagine that, like, yeah, this
is this is it? Like, I don't know, do you
do you like go little league style and just let
the players like make a lineup and call the plays. Honestly,
I if I was Matt Maaggie and I knew like
this is probably my last game, I would I would
just do all weird things because why not? Yeah, exactly
why not? And who knows? Maybe if they work, Like
somebody's like, hey, let's take a chance on that guy.
Who knows Remember when we were excited about him? That
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seems like a lifetime ago. I mean literally a lifetime ago.
Um alright, uh, week twelve, there's still two more teams
on buys. We still have buyes all the way through
week fourteen, I believe. Uh So the two teams on
buys kind of big ones, the Arizona Cardinals and the
Kansas City Chiefs. So I mean a lot of notable
players are unavailable this week. At quarterback, it's Kyler Murray
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and Patrick mahomes H. You're running backs James Conner, Clyde Edwards,
a Laire, Darryl Williams. Your wide receivers DeAndre Hopkins, Christian
Kirk and Tyreek killed In a couple of notable tight
ends Zach Ertz and Travis Kelsey. So make sure that
you don't have those players in your line up this week.
All right, Up next, we've got three big questions for
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Week twelve. With Thanksgiving being a day away, we have
some Thanksgiving kind of themed two questions there. So the
first one, which matchup this week? Are you most thankful
for Elijah more going up against the Houston Texans. I. I
I know we were talking about the Jets a last segment,
but I think Elijah Moore is the one Jet that
you could start fully with confidence. In his last five games,
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he has at least six targets and all of them
double digit fantasy points in each, and in two of
his last three games he has top twenty seven fantasy points.
Now he takes on a week Houston Texans secondary that
gives up a lot of fantasy points, gives up a
lot of yards. A hundred and seventy nine yards per
gaming receivers, the sixth most in the NFL. So I
think Elijah Moore, who has proven to be quarterback proof,
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I think he could have a good game to this
week and I would start him with confidence. Yeah, it's
been nice to see them actually just funnel targets to him.
And I know that. You know a few weeks ago
they said they weren't gonna do anything special to get
him extra looks. Maybe they're not. Maybe he's just getting
open and they're finding him. But whatever, I'm down with that. Uh.
The matchup that I am most thankful for is Deepo
Samuel going against the Minnesota via Kings. I mean, Deebo
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has been amazing. I sort of, uh, you know, I'm
glad in a way. I I drafted him in the
scott Fish Bowl this year, mostly because I missed out
on Brandon Aiyuk. That's the guy that I wanted. Somebody
else got there ahead of me, and so I was like, alright,
I guess I'll tell Deebo Samuel. And now he's the
guy that's sort of carrying that team. But this week
he's got a great matchup against the Vikings were giving
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up the third most fantasy points per game to the
wide receiver position. So we we know that he can
do it catching the football. We learned that he can
do it running the football. We saw that last week. Uh.
He had uh more yards in that game than I
think Trey Sermon has had in like a number of
games combined. Uh. Either way, the Niners are just they
have made him the centerpiece of the office. He is
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what we thought Brandon Ayuk was going to be. And
now this week he gets a very very favorable matchup
in an offense that's really clicking lately, uh and it
needs to pile up some wins as they stay in
the race for the wild card in the NFC. So
I'm looking forward for the best for Deebo Samuel this week,
all right, because it is Thanksgiving and a lot of
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us will be getting our fat on which player is
going to feast this week, James Robinson. James Robinson is
in a position where he gets a lot of touches
each and every week. But a lot of the times
the Jaguars are trailing so later in the game they
have to get away from the run. That might not
be the case this week against the Atlanta Falcons team
that has really been struggling. So not only do I
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think it could be a positive game script for James Robinson,
it is a great matchup. The Falcons allow the fourth
most Fantasy points per game to running backs. We know
that Robinson is gonna be used near the goal one,
that he's gonna get a bunch of touches, that he's
gonna get used in the passisan games. So all of
that paired with this really good matchup. I love James
Robinson this week. I just love the fact that even
after even if it took a couple of weeks, like
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Urban Meyern was like, hey, we have a pretty good
running back, Like maybe we should use him. Uh. So
that's been that's been really nice to see. Uh. The
guy that I think is going to feast this week,
it's another running back. It is David Montgomery. For the
Chicago Bears. We talked about their passing game earlier, with
Andy Dalton expected to start and and not sure what's
gonna be with Alan Robinson. We do know David Montgomery
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is going to be there, and we know that he's
going to get the football and he's got an excellent
matchup against the Detroit Lions, who defensively one of the
worst teams in the league. They are one of the
most friendly matchups when it comes to fantasy running backs,
third most fantasy points per game allowed to the position.
They've given up tim rushing touch up. They've also given
up seven receiving touchdowns, so uh, maybe there's a chance
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for Montgomery to do some damage as a pass catcher
as well. But regardless, I expect this is going to
be a game where the Bears are going to want
to be run heavy, just to sort of take some
of the pressure off the quarterback situation, and I think
they'll be able to run it early, often, and effectively
against the Lions this week. So I'm looking for him
to have a pretty pretty big week. Um who will
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be in a food coma Who's just gonna be laid
out on our fantasy couch not doing anything, making this
wish that they weren't there. Who's gonna be basically a bust.
This is a guy that I believe we've seen eat
a turkey drumstick. Yes, it is mark Ingram, Saints running back,
and it partially because he has not practiced this week.
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I know he's dealing with the knee injuries, so that
is always worrisome. But also it is a tough matchup
against the Bills. On the year, the Bills have allowed
the six fews fantasy points to running backs, but coming
into last week it was the lowest. Jonathan Taylor just
exploded for five touchdowns and fifty fantasy points. Uh, if
you take away that one Jonathan Taylor performance, the Bills
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have allowed five touchdowns to running backs all year, So
they're stingy against the run. And if he's not fully healthy,
maybe we can see more Tony Jones or may I
mean you even have to worry about him suiting up
this week. So I'm very, very concerned about mark Ingram.
Right now, you're talking about the the touchdowns that the
Bills have given up on the ground. I believe of
the ten touchdowns, I think it is I think eight
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of them have been between Derrick Henry and Jonathan Taylor.
I don't think mark Ingram is the same as those twos.
I don't think so. I mean, look, he and Derrick
Henry went to the same college. But that's about it.
That's where it ends. That's kind of where it ends.
I got another running back as well. I think Josh
Jacobs is not going to have a particularly great week
the Cowboys. One of their big improvements this year has
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been on the defensive side of the football. And even
in the game they lost last week against Kansas City, Um,
it wasn't like they were gashed by the Chiefs, right.
We we spent the week talking about how the Chief's
offense is back, so everything looks like he's gonna be
fine again. Uh. And after you know, they scored kind
of early, the Cowboys did a good job of shutting
them down. They held them to nineteen points. And I
think they're gonna have a tough time. The Raiders are
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going to have a tough time, I should say, moving
the football trying to score points. And I also have
a feeling they might be in a negative game script here, right.
The Cowboys have spent the last few days hearing about
how they only scored nine points. What's wrong with the Cowboys?
And even without Amari Cooper, we'll see if Ceedee Lamb
is there. I still think they can find a way
to move the football to score points and maybe put
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the Raiders in negative game script, so I understand you
might be in a situation where you have to play
Josh Jacobs. We know running back is thin right now,
but I don't really like his outcome for this game.
So just be aware of Josh Jacobs if you are
starting him. Yeah. I mean, And the thing is, we
always say, oh, why don't they throw him the ball more?
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Last week they tried seven targets. He turned it into
twenty four yards. That's why they don't throw Sometimes sometimes
you just have to learn the hard way why I
never get the opportunities in a certain way. It's time
for a break. We got some game previews, and we
come back on the NFL Fantasy Football Show. All right,
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that starts our game previews. We will begin with the
first of the three Thanksgiving Day games. It is the
Bears at the Lions. I know this is like a
long time rivalry, but on paper, like really, I was
gonna say is it like, it's just not a great
way to start our Thanksgiving Day, But at least there's
something for us to pay attention to right this one. Yeah.
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I think if you're starting anyone in this game, at
least from the bear side besides the running backs, let
it be Darnell Mooney. Because Darnell Mooney last week saw
six teen targets sixteen. I don't care who it is.
If they're getting that sort of volume, you need to
start them in fantasy, especially against the defense like the lines.
I know the lines have been hurt more by the
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run in the past this year, but their secondary is
not strong. It's not scary. So I think in what
could be a pretty competitive game, we're gonna see a
lot of volum go to Darnel Mooney. I would be
looking to get him in my starting lineup. It's sort
of nice. I mean, you know, it took two plus months,
it took some injuries and what have you, but he
at least last week looked like the guy that we
all thought was going to be your big breakout sleeper
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wide receiver this year. So that's that's sort of nice
to see. Uh. Next game up on the list is
Bills at Saints that is the nightcap on Thursday nights,
and uh, sort of echoing what you said about the
you know your guy who's gonna have food coma, I
just be aware of Saints running backs in general, right
we're you mentioned mark Ingram that practicing earlier in the week.
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Alan Camaro wasn't good enough to practice, So I'm not
even sure who is going to be and who's going
to get volume in this offense. But I don't necessarily
like anybody's options here. If it's Camara, I would certainly
give him more of a chance than I would from
mark Ingram. But but both of them are in a
situation where it just doesn't look like it's going to
be potentially very fruitful. And again, if the Bill's offense
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wakes up like it didn't really do last week, then
it could be a situation where the Saints are sort
of chasing this game. So I don't I don't particularly
like it. Uh, just is this Do the Bills get
back on track? Just football wise? I think so? I think, Uh,
I think they need they know they need to. They're
in second place now, so I do think they get
back on track. I'm also wondering now that the man
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is just signed a new contract, when we get to
see any taste in Hill at quarterback, man that that's
a whole subplot unto itself. You know, it's I I
jokingly tweeted last week that he was going to somehow
play himself into a contract extension while you know, the
Saint's offense was stumbling around. And then like, not even
twenty four hours after I tweeted it, it's announced he
gets a contract extension. I don't under and there's a
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bonus if he becomes the starting quarterback in the next
four years or something like that. I'm like, why is
he starting quarterback now? It doesn't make sense to me
in the next four years. Isn't he like thirty? Like
what what's happening? I think he's over thirty. I mean,
I don't I don't understand. I don't get it. This
he's thirty one. This is this is boggling my mind.
It is derailed the podcast now because it's completely back
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to the game previews. We got the Titans and the Patriots.
This is sort of a test for both of these
teams actually football wise, right because the Patriots have been hot,
but you can sort of make a case that they
haven't played the toughest competition. The Titans, uh seemed to
beat the really good teams and lose to the bad teams.
So when they win or lose might tell us if
the Patriots are good or bad. I have no idea,
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but fantasy wise, what is important for this one? I think, yeah,
they beat the Bills, tight, Rams, all these good teams,
and they're gonna lose this week. I don't know, but
I think you should sit Ryan Tannehill in this one.
Ryan Tannehill coming into the year was super consistent with
the Titans. He has not been this year. He's only
top twenty fantasy points twice. More often than not, he's
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less than fifteen fantasy points. And then you couple that
with the fact that the Patriots are the second best
defense against quarterbacks, at least in fantasy. UH so the
tough matchup, him not playing great, and the fact that
I think Bill Belichick is gonna be like, let them
try to run with Deonte Foreman and all those other guys.
We just need to stop Ryan Tannehill to a J.
Brown and that's it. So I do not love Tannehill
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this week. I would stay away from Tannehill as well.
I just I don't like the matchup and the fact
that you know they their offense is just sputtering. I mean,
it's it's hard to lose that many pieces and not
have it have problems. So maybe out all on Tannehill,
but doesn't mean you gotta play him. Uh. Buccaneers at
the Colts, So I think you're definitely starting Michael Pittman
in this one. Uh. The Giants might not have tried
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to challenge the Buccaneers secondary, but I do think the
Colts are gonna be a little bit more savvy than that.
That has been repeatedly. We've said all year long. The
one place that the Bucks are maybe the most vulnerable.
They have started a ton of people in their secondary
because of injuries. Pittman in the midst of a pretty
good breakout season as well. He is by far the
number one option in the Indianapolis passing game. And if
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they are going to stay in this game, if they
are going to challenge Tampa at all, it's going to
be because they pushed the ball downfield. So this feels
like a really good opportunity, especially last week. We knew
Pittman was not gonna have a good game against Buffalo.
That wasn't a surprise. This feels like a chance for
him to sort of bounce back a little bit. Uh
So Rams and the Packers next up. This one on
paper looks like maybe one of the best games of
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the week. Uh. You know, we'll see what happens with
Aaron Rodgers and maybe he's got COVID toe. Now we'll see.
I mean, that seems to be the thing, right, that
he's got COVID toe. Uh, which, by the way, he
spent a lot of time talking about his toe situation,
but somehow wouldn't talk about his vaccination situation because that
was like a hip of violation. But did did he
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He didn't contact our podcast? Did he contact another podcast
on how to treat this tone? You know? He might have,
he might have, like you know, all I know is
that fear is not a factor for Aaron Rodgers. That's
all I know. Uh. And fantasy whin we're gonna We're
totally gonna get banned whatever. Fantasy wise, what are we
doing with Rams Packers? This one has a lot of obvious,
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like straightforward starts. But besides the obvious guys, I think
MVS is a sleeper. Marquez Veldez scantling last week saw
ten targets, a team high. Uh he caught four of
them for a hundred and twenty three yards, but we
know that he has downfield abilities. He could stretch the
fields with the best of them. Ten targets, though, that
is significant volume like that shouldn't be ignored, especially in
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a matchup like this Markets because I know they don't
tip glee shadow with Jalen Ramsey. But if you're looking
at the Packers, you're like, Javontae Adams is the one
player we need to stop in the passing game. So
I think they're gonna try to throw everything his way
to slow him down, which means more volume to go
the other side to NBS, I think, I hope. So
it's been it's so hard trying to find a non
Davante Adams Packer wide receiver to start because you don't
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know if it's MVS, if it's Alan Lazard. Um. I
guess for past the days of Jeff Janie being a thing.
You know him back in the day too. We'll see
UH Steelers at the Bengals, which has some interesting implications.
In the a f C North, you got a lot
of teams bunched up in that division fighting for a
playoff spot, So we'll see how that actually impacts the standings.
But for fantasy mactuy, Harris is an absolute must start.
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And maybe I'm you know, preaching to the choir at
this point because he's having a very good season. I
feel like we haven't really talked about him a lot lately,
so this is a chance to sort of remedy that
Harris right now is your RB for this season. Uh,
there's a very good chance. Actually he's ten a tenth
of a point behind Derrick Henry, so unless something goes
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completely haywire this week, he will at least be your
RB three by the time the weekend is over. And
on top of it, the Bengals have really struggled against
running games. Uh you know, I know they're gonna try
to push the football with Ben Roethlisberger, but still their
most effective offense has been putting the ball in Naji
Harris's hands. So maybe you were in some situation where
you have a ton of running backs and you're deciding
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between them. If you are, Naji Harris should be a
no brainer. Must start this week against Cincinnati. Yeah, he's amazing.
He's been great pretty much all year long. Um is he?
Is he your Fantasy rookie of the Year. I mean,
I know we like Jamaar Chase has been splashy, but
I feel like Harris has been more consistent. I I
think so. Yeah. I I know New England will make
the case for for Mac Jones, but that is not
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a thing in fantasy and fantasy it's between those two.
I think I would leave Naji Harris. Yeah, I mean
I think a few weeks ago was Jamar Chase because
he was just it was just so flashy man like
big plays and stuff, but just week to week consistency.
I think Najy has him beat there all right, Chargers
at the Broncos, which I look, I guess the Broncos
are in it in the a f C West, but
it just doesn't feel like they're in it, especially with
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the Chiefs playing more like the Chiefs as led up.
But the Chargers are very much so in that race
and in this game. Though. For fantasy, I think you
could start Melvin Gordon. He he gets double digit touches
every single game this year. One of UH three running backs.
I believe you could say that the other is Javonte
Williams teammates, so those two kind of do share all
the volume there, but it is Melvin Gordon that gets
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the usage near the goal line. We know that he
is going to consistently get some targets out of the
passing game, and the Chargers allow the most rushing yards
per game in the NFL this year, so I think
the Broncos know that they got to try to limit
Justin Herbert in the high powered Chargers offense, and by
doing that you can control the clock and run the
ball more. So I'm expecting a pretty good day from
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Melvin Gordon here. I do like the fact that we're
just like leaning into Melvin Gordon now, right like we
we spent, however, many weeks kind of fighting against the
tide and trying to get Javonte Williams in there. And look,
don't don't take this as me saying Javon say Williams
is bad and needs to be dropped. I still think
he's good and he's very productive. But at some point
we just have to accept the facts that Melman Gordon
it's not going away. So let's lean into it a
little bit, and this is a good matchup to to
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a hosting job there along with Adam Rank. All right,
that gets us to another break. We're gonna step away
for just a little bit. When we come back, we're
going to take a closer look at a couple of
guys from our pack of Panini cars and contendue along
with our game previews on the NFL Fantasy Football Show. Hey,
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let's talk some Cowboys and Raiders, shall we? Specifically, let's
talk about Dak Prescott. Normally he's dark. Last week he
played like rain Um, which was not a good thing
for the Cowboys. But generally speaking, it's been a good
season for Dak Prescott. I think he's had a couple
of bad games in there, but generally he's getting you
about twenty points a week. He is looking like the
quarterback that you probably spent the high pick on. So
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let's spind it ahead to next season, if we were
drafting today or whenever drafts start to happen next year,
where does he rank him on quarterbacks for you? So,
coming into this year, he was my QB five, and
I think at best he would be QB five. Like
I'm definitely taking Patrick Mahomes still, Kyler Murray, Lamar Jackson,
and Josh Allen over him. Then I think Dak is
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in a discussion where it's like Dak or Justin Herbert
Dak or uh Jalen Hurts. I think has earned his
way into that conversation Stafford and Rogers who are getting
up there in age Brady, So I think he'll be
in that secondary tier. For me, I would probably have
him five or six. That would be debating between him
and Justin herbert Um. But yeah, it hasn't been in
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the type of year that I was hoping for for
Dak Prescott. Yeah, I mean I think I was. I
was hoping he would be more, you know, would give
you numbers closer to a QB two or three. Like
I said, missing a game, having two really bad games
have have hurt him a little bit. And I think
five seems reasonable because the four names you listed, I
think you can make a strong case to take ahead
of Dak Prescott. But uh, you know, I still think look,
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if you are if you are inclined to draft the
quarterbacks sort of in the middle rounds, if you're not
going to reach and say the third or fourth round
for a Mahomes or Josh Allen, if you want to
wait till, say the seventh eighth round, I think that
will be a very good option for you at that
at that value draft price point. At this point, Vikings
at the forty niners and Justin Jefferson continuing to have
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just another phenomenal season. Um. So, I I had the
good pleasure to be on the front Yard Fantasy podcast
earlier in the week, and they do a lot of
fun things with like polling and you're trying to take
public opinion, and one of the questions they asked, now,
mind you I had written this rundown before I went
on the show, so it wasn't like I'm cripping off
their notes or anything, but it just sort of sort
of popped up. If you're looking for a dynasty wide
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receiver one to build your dynasty team around, is it
justin Jefferson? Where is it gonna be Jamaar Chase both?
I think this is literally a coin flip of a
question because Chase is twenty one, Jefferson is twenty two.
They're both bawling out looking great. Uh. The only reason
I was slight lean towards Jamar Chases. He's a little
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bit younger, but more so because he has his quarterback
for hopefully the next decade or so already, So I'm thinking, uh,
Chasing Barrow. We don't know the future holds exactly for
cousins in Minnesota, So that's why I lean with Jamaar Chase.
But I don't think there's a wrong answer here. I
don't think so either. I mean, I would probably lean
towards Chase mostly because of what you said about the
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quarterback situation that we know Joe Burrow is locked in.
But what's hard to deny about Justin Jefferson is just
the sheer production he is putting up. I mean, every
time you see some big accomplishment, the name that he's
right alongside is Randy Moss, you know, and like last
year when he did it, you're kind of like, all right,
well was one thing, it was one year whatever. And
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he keeps putting up these numbers, and he keeps getting
these comparisons to Randy Moss, and at some point it
becomes hard to ignore that. So I think, I think,
when you're talking about dynasty leagues, these are the two
guys that are going to be placed next to each
other in terms of the top wide receiver. And I
think you're You're right. I don't think there's a wrong
answer here. It just at some point sort of boils
down to your personal preference more than anything. Yeah, and
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last year, I mean, you talk about Justin Jefferson and
Randy Moss four yards a rookie wreck through six if
he if he sticks to this pace, Jamar Chase sixteen
game pace right now, it's thirteen eighties seven So basically
bacnnect the only thing. I'll say, thirteen touchdowns he's on
pace for Jefferson only had seven, but still you can't
go wrong. And these two were college teammates. College teammates,
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I mean with Joe Burrow, I mean, look, they won
a National Championships greatest offense. I'm not a college football expert,
but that has to be. That's one of them. Yeah,
I mean they were. They were insane with what they
were able to do together. Uh So, and Jefferson and
Chase and Burrow to next tent. They've continued that on
into the NFL as well, So props with them for that.
All right, that gets back to our game previews. We
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continue along Eagles and the Giants. Again, like I guess,
the Eagles aren't playing bad. The Giants just don't excite
me at all. But there's at least one Giant that
we should keep an eye out. Right. I would be
looking to stream Evan Ingram if I'm in need of
a tight end this week, and when I wrote the
Waiver Wired column this week, was like, look, Evan Ingram
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hasn't even played yet because the article comes out Monday morning.
They played Monday night. I was like, it doesn't matter.
As long as he finishes the game healthy. I will
be him next week because the Eagles allowed by far
the most fantasy points per game two tight ends, and
they've been struggling even more as of late. We saw
Adam Troutman last week have seventeen fantasy points against them
since Week seven. Nick Vannette is the only tight end
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to see a target and not score double digit fantasy
points against the Eagles. So, Evan Ingram and the Giants,
if you can't get it done this week, I will
never trust you again. I put him in the Sleeper's
column this week for the I don't know how many
times it's been, and every time he has burned me.
But I'm going back to the well less because of
an Inger and more because of the Eagles, just because
they seem to have tight end blindness, Like I don't
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understand it, but we're gonna try to take advantage of it.
If it doesn't happen this week I'm out. I'm done.
I'm done with Evan Ingram if he can't get it
done this week against the Philadelphia Eagles. UH, Falcons at
the Jaguars. I know this seems like a gross matchup,
but styles make fights, and between these two teams sort
of not being great, it might end up being sort
of an entertaining game. But I will also tell you
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that this feels like a week that we can go
back to the Marvin Jones well. And I know it's
been a while, uh. The the the production we saw
early in the season has evaporated in the last month
or so. But this is a team that now is
is looking for more past catching help. You know. I
also put Laviska Chanalt in here because with no Jamal
agnew Chenalt possibly slides back into the slot uh and
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and get some opportunity there. But they're going to need
to push the ball down field. They've got to get
this passing game opened up. It helps James Robinson, it
helps everybody, and part of that means getting more Marvin
Jones involved down the field. This is a good matchup
to do it in. The Falcons have been very generous
to wide receivers, so it just feels like a chance
for Marvin Jones to sort of bounce back and come
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back to our lives this week. And I saw somewhere
on Twitter, I forget who tweeted it, like bird teams
versus cat teams in NFL history, or like a five
hundred record against each other. So this is a this
is a pretty big all right, we'll keep an eye
on them. We had to see the bird cat match up.
I had no idea somebody was trapping. Of course, somebody's
tracking everything everything. Panthers at Dolphins, which is a cat
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versus a fish. I would think, you know, theoretically the
the fish would be in trouble here, but who knows?
So where are we? What are we doing with this one?
Fantasy wise? I'm starting Cam Newton in this game. Cam
Newton last week made his first start, and we heard
rumors that, oh, maybe p J. Walker sees the field
as well. It didn't matter. Cam Newton scored twenty six
fantasy points. He gave us two passing touchdowns a rushing touchdown.
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He now has three passing touchdowns and two rushing touchdowns.
And the little bit of time that we have seen him,
plus the Dolphins just give up a lot of fantasy
points to quarterbacks. They've given up the fifth most on
the year, so a favorable matchup, and I I still
expect Cam to keep running, especially near the goal line,
so I'm starting him. He might QUB six on the
week right now. Look, I mean, I know they didn't
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win last week, but he has been good at least,
you know, as good as we could expect coming back
after having a lot of Russ had the two touchdowns
in Week one through a nice touchdown pastic to Christian
McCaffrey last week. So uh yeah, I could definitely get
down with with starting Cam Newton to stream him. Maybe
you don't have Kyler or Mahomes this week, Cam Newton's
a pretty good option for you. All right, let's Finnish
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up our game previews for the week Jets and the Texans.
I get another game that might end up being weirdly
entertaining because both these teams are not very good. I
will say the start Tyrod Taylor. It was great to
see him come back last week have a couple of
rushing touchdowns. What it reminded us who he is and
what he can do even in an offense that doesn't
really excite us a whole lot. I think for a
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lot of folks, maybe the it would be better if
he gets Brandon Cooks a little bit more involved than
what we saw last week. But look, we have been
targeting the Jets pretty much all year long. I don't
see any reason to change that. So if you're looking
to stream a quarterback, or certainly if you're in a
two quarterback league, uh, Tyrod Taylor is a good option
to get in your lineup this week. I'm starting him
in more leagues than I want to say. This is
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where we are, and this is what happens. We get
two week to oh then people are beat up and
you have bys. Uh, these are the decisions we have
to make. Look our our friend and producer, hythem Kalani
hit me up. I think he was starting. He was
like having to choose between Tim Boyle and uh some
other awful backup quarterback last It was pretty miserable. He
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like texted me like in a panic on Sunday morning,
like what do I do? And I'm like, not Tim Boyle,
pray like I don't know because your options aren't good.
Bow all right? The last one Sunday Night Football Browns
and the Ravens. I guess the battle of the Browns, right,
because the Ravens are the old Browns and then the
Browns are the current browns. So it's like browns versus browns.
Either way, what are we doing for this one? I
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think you could start rashade Bateman here and listen. I
know I said the other day, Oh, it's gonna be
rashade Bateman week in week Levin. Well, then Lamar Jackson
didn't play and that changed everything. But as long as
Lamar Jackson plays this week, and I am expecting him to,
I think Bateman is a strong option. He was getting
eight targets again the last couple of weeks with Lamar Um.
He's shown us that he's had his safe floor. We
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haven't seen the upside quite yet, but I think in
a matchup like this, the brown secondary doesn't scare me.
So I think we could see a good day for
Bateman here. That was the other option that Hythan presented
me with. It was Tim Boiler Tyler Huntley. That was
he's in a two quarterback league. He was I was like, yeah,
apparently probably Huntly. Yeah, he could run a little a
little bit. You can run a little bit. Neither one
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of those were great options. That's what happens when you're
up against it in the two QB league and your
quarterback suddenly, you know, get some bubbleguts on Sunday morning,
you can't play. Honestly, just to our week twelve sleepers,
which gotta pair go for it? Mine is it's a
little duo, but it is the Texans running backs David
Johnson and Rex burke Head. I think both could be
streamable options this week. They both saw fifteen or more
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touches in a game last week where the Texans were
playing with the lead. I think this could be either
a close game or potentially a game where the Texans
have a lead. Again. I prefer David Johnson because he'll
see pass game usage, but I've had a couple of
spots where I missed out on him have just pivoted
to Rex Birkhead because the Jets are that bad against
running backs. I mean, again, look we're talking Tyrod Taylor,
We're talking the running backs again. Hopefully, uh, Brandon Cooks
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is a little bit more involved. Like I even made
a case somewhere that maybe Chris Conley has some deep
sleeper value this is this is how we think about
the Jets Jets defense right now. I say Kendrick Borne
has some sleeper potential for the New England Patriots this week.
The Titans have improved defensively, but they're still giving up
a lot of points and a lot of yards to
to wide receivers. And for all the excitement about Jacoby
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Meyers scoring his first NFL touchdown and certainly congratulations to that,
Kendrick Borne over the last month has actually had more
catches and more yards uh than Jacoby Myers. So I
don't know that you can crown a true wide receiver
one in the Patriots offense. But Born is getting opportunities
and this feels like a situation for him to have
some nice sleeper value to be a nice flex play. Uh.
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The ceiling is kind of low on all the Patriots
wide receivers just because of how their passing game is.
But but Born I think has some some potential to
make some plays this week. Alright, who else do you
have with some sleeper potential? Another RB duo in the
same game, Ty Johnson and Tevin Coleman. There's no Michael
Carter this week. Unfortunately, he's out with an ankle injury,
So I think in a good matchup the Jets, two
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guys are in play. I would prefer Ty Johnson just
because he's been the more consistent running back as the
backup behind Michael Carter all year. But if you're going
a little bit deeper, Tevin Coleman got did have more
work last week. So against the Texans, who give up
like almost a hundred and fifty yards per game to
running backs, I think these two are streamable options this week.
All right, I'll go with that too. I mean, I
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know we like Ti Johnson because he catches the football especially.
I'm also gonna finish this out with Austin Hooper, and
he's a guy that I don't think we've talked about
at all this year. Uh, And I get it he's
splitting time with David and Joeku. Uh. The Browns passing
game is inconsistent, but I like the match up against
the Ravens. They are not the worst team against tight ends,
but they're certainly roaming the neighborhood. They were once kind
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of competing with Philadelphia for that that tie. I don't
and the Eagles have surged the head uh in their
tight end coverage ineptitude, But I think this is an opportunity.
If Baker Mayfield continues to struggle to get the ball
to his wide receivers, which he has for a while now, Uh,
then he's got to go somewhere with it. And I
think Austin Hooper has some nice potential and again, extremely
tight ends. You just want to touchdown, and maybe Austin
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Hooper can kind of get you one. You see nine,
nine or more fantasy points in back to back games.
Maybe he can make it three in a row, which
would make for a pretty good week for for Baker
or for Austin who more usage without Odell. Yeah. Absolutely, Um, alright,
so that'll pretty much Rob. I will say this, Uh,
anything because you know it is Thanksgiving. Anything you'd like
to tell folks that you were thankful for at this point, Well,
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thankful for getting to host this podcast with you every
single week, getting basically everything at work I every day.
I'm like, oh wow, I get to do this for
that is awesome. Uh, And just happy Thanksgiving to everyone listening.
Happy Thanksgiving. I'll give a Nicolette shout out. I'm very
thankful for her as well. Um, and yeah, just happy Thanksgiving. Everyone.
I hope you enjoy football and food and family and
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all of that. Absolutely, Yeah, thankful for definitely the my
wife and kid U certainly love them, appreciate them, Glad
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and thankful for all of that. You you were much
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