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January 24, 2025 40 mins

The NFL Gameday View podcast previews the AFC and NFC Championship matchups between the Eagles-Commanders and Chiefs-Bills. Picks are made, over/under's are discussed and plenty more for your listening pleasure before one of the most anticipated weekends of the year.

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Speaker 1 (00:04):
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Speaker 2 (00:13):
Everybody Long the game debut for sent About Caesar sports Foot,
Patrick clayb I'm back here with Greg Rosenthal and Cynthia Freeland,
one game away from the super Bowl. We got lines,
prop bets, predictions, and all without vague references to Al Michaels.
We just talk about it because that's all we do
on this show.

Speaker 3 (00:28):
We do.

Speaker 4 (00:28):
We have picked every game all season long, and we've
gotten each one of them correct.

Speaker 5 (00:33):
Okay, that's yeah.

Speaker 6 (00:34):
I actually think that we all have. Have we all
been collectively wrong? Unconfirmed? I mean maybe if you add
all of ours together, we've gotten them all correct.

Speaker 2 (00:42):
Probably there was one thing we were all collectively wrong
on last week. That's because my theory beloved Detroit Lions
lost to the Washington Commanders. But hey, Cynthia, you've still
got the crown in the playoffs, one game ahead of
Greg and I who are standing there at six and four,
So you've got well there's some sort of victory.

Speaker 7 (01:03):
Sorry, or victories are not the same as Lions.

Speaker 3 (01:06):
I mean, which would you rather have a Super Bowl trophy?
You're not even on.

Speaker 4 (01:10):
The team or back to back regular season postseason crowns
over a lion.

Speaker 7 (01:16):
Super healthy for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:18):
The game of the week going down Sunday Night and Arrowhead.
It is Josh Allen and the Bills against Mahomes and
the Chiefs. This will be another chapter in what has
already been an incredible rivalry.

Speaker 3 (01:34):
By the way you talk, you lean everything down on this.

Speaker 2 (01:39):
Poet doubt come out, you know, hold back everything we
fought for.

Speaker 5 (01:44):
This is right here.

Speaker 3 (01:47):
So you're gonna run a flow pasta.

Speaker 8 (01:51):
And it's human pyro technics dressed in red, white and gold.

Speaker 2 (01:58):
Three touchdowns in the last minute and forty five seconds.

Speaker 5 (02:01):
Bills have the lead.

Speaker 2 (02:03):
Thirty six thirty three with thirteen seconds remaining.

Speaker 8 (02:07):
Mahomes looks to throw it pump faking right side.

Speaker 3 (02:09):
He wants in a comeback. It is cut by Kelsey
Tuck's Down City Pub one.

Speaker 8 (02:17):
That's incredible divisional playoff game.

Speaker 3 (02:19):
Gonna roll out to his left, nowhere to go, fires
to the end zone, and it's called for a touchdown.
An unbelievable click of the wrist. Fake a pass.

Speaker 8 (02:30):
Now he'll run a thirty five yard line blocker thirty
twenty five inside the twenty Chiefs twenty seven. Bill's twenty
four one forty seven to go and the kick is
no God, Helly's.

Speaker 1 (02:44):
Getting hell get here.

Speaker 2 (02:47):
Left and we'll get to our game picks for both
championship games later on in the show. First, we're gonna
break down the matchup, starting with the Bills and the Chiefs. Greg,
who is your player to watch on offense in this one?

Speaker 3 (02:59):
I think it's Savior. You're Worthy. I know we know
what we're gonna get out.

Speaker 4 (03:01):
Of Patrick Hohomes greatness and Travis Kelcey greatness. I'm not
totally sure what we're getting out of Xavier Worthy yet.
The early results in this playoff are excellent. Watch some
of the catches that he had a week ago. That
throw when Patrick Mahomes made it took a lot of trust,
a lot of anticipation that his rookie receiver would be
there and might have been the best contested catch Xavier

(03:24):
Worthy made in the entire season.

Speaker 3 (03:26):
He can make plays after the catch.

Speaker 4 (03:28):
You're gonna use him with some of these short throws,
but he really is the one guy on the team
that has next level speed that can take advantage of
what the Bills defense struggles at and that I think
is team speed at the safety position.

Speaker 3 (03:41):
I think Worthy is so big for this Chiefs team.

Speaker 6 (03:43):
Well, you talked about Travis Kelce, So I'm actually gonna
take the Travis Kelce torch here. Why because in the playoffs,
Travis Kelce is ridiculous. If I'm looking at what he's
done since twenty twenty in fourteen games, do you know
many times he's exceeded the number that was forecast for him?

Speaker 5 (03:59):
How many all of them?

Speaker 7 (04:01):
Fourteen fourteen? That is fue one hundred.

Speaker 4 (04:04):
It's honesty, is the dumbest stat of all the chief stats.

Speaker 3 (04:08):
That's the most ridiculous.

Speaker 7 (04:09):
Yeah, we're just gonna let that simmer right there.

Speaker 6 (04:10):
But we're also add to that that he's had eighteen
touchdowns in seventeen playoff games as well.

Speaker 7 (04:15):
Last week he was ridiculous.

Speaker 6 (04:17):
And this is going to be a crazy matchup because
if you look at what happens when he matches up
against a defensive backs versus linebackers, and he's likely to
see linebackers in this one, it's like three yards more
per catch. Ridiculous, just ridiculous. Against the Bills, a.

Speaker 2 (04:31):
Guy who hasn't had all that playoff success is a
guy that I'm taking DeAndre Hopkins. I think a lot
of attention goes the way of Exavior Worthy and Travis Kelcey,
and so it gives him, the guy who came at
the deadline, a chance to work against the Bills. He
only ran nineteen routes in the game in Week eleven,
only got one target last week. This thing though, DeAndre

(04:52):
Hopkins has already played against the Buffalo Bills twice this season.
Once was what the Tennessee Titans. Once was back and
week eleven. That first game, he had one catch for
negative one yards. And I do think with all of
the volume of seeing this defense, DeAndre Hopkins plays a
little bit of a factor, especially with all the attention
going with the guys that we talked about first again

(05:13):
three chiefs that we picked there, take note of that.
Sticking with this game, let's a little bit over to
the defensive side. Which player do you have your arm?

Speaker 4 (05:20):
Well, we got to give some love to the Bills.
Let's talk a little Greg Russo my name's sake. Although
he does have one less G than me, he said
just fifty percent G but.

Speaker 3 (05:29):
A lot of sacks.

Speaker 4 (05:30):
It was practically a fifty percent pressure rate in that
first game against the Chiefs. Now it's a different left
tackle this time around, but Greg Russo is one of
those defensive ends that wins with his strength.

Speaker 3 (05:41):
It's not about the moves.

Speaker 4 (05:42):
And bending the edge and what worked against Joe Tooney
who's stepping in at left tackle for the Chiefs a
week ago. I know Greg russoe is not Will Anderson,
but a lot of it was pure power and I
think Tooney was a little lighter. You can push him back.
Greg Russo, like I said, had a monster game in
that first one, and to me, he's an edge setter.
He's one of the strongest defensive ends in the league,

(06:04):
and that pressure from the left side has really bothered
Patrick Mahomes throughout the course of the season. I think
it's been a problem for them. I think it will
be on Sunday as well.

Speaker 5 (06:13):
Well.

Speaker 7 (06:13):
I'm looking at Terrell Bernard in this matchup.

Speaker 6 (06:15):
He came back from injury and it's been a huge
uptick for this Bill's defense. It's not really about like
discrete situational stats. I can't say the word stats, situational stats.

Speaker 7 (06:27):
There we go.

Speaker 6 (06:28):
It is all about his impact as a whole. He
frees other people up to be able to get to
the quarterback. He allows some coverage help. He really kind
of does that all purpose thing that we need him
to do. And in this case, he's probably gonna see
a lot of that guy Travis Kelsey we talked about,
and he's probably gonna have to help out if anything
goes over the head of Matt Malon. There's a lot
of stuff going on and with potential injuries to this

(06:50):
defense in the secondary, and I'm talking about Taylor Rapp
and Christian Benford who as of right now we have
not seen them practice yet this week. That will be
a big defense, defensive difference maker if we can get
Terrell Bernard at full speed.

Speaker 2 (07:04):
I want to look at is the defensive difference maker
as a whole, because it's like a black hole that
draws attention and.

Speaker 5 (07:09):
Has gravity on this defense line.

Speaker 2 (07:11):
Of that's Chris Jones, who probably would have a Super
Bowl MVP in his trophy case if you know, voters
valued defense. He was doubled on thirty one point seven
percent of his rushes against Buffalo and Week eleven when
he wasn't he had six pressures. Four of them came
in less than two point six seconds. And also remember
Beck the forty nine Ers had a chance to win

(07:32):
the Super Bowl against the Chiefs. They singled up Chris Jones.
It didn't even actually block him correctly.

Speaker 5 (07:36):
At all, a game rerecord. Why why are you?

Speaker 4 (07:38):
Why why can't we make a defensive Super Bowl MVP
given offense, give a defense like more awards or recognize
these men.

Speaker 5 (07:44):
Let's just take cowardice out of this.

Speaker 2 (07:46):
If a defensive player is dominating the game, it's okay.

Speaker 5 (07:50):
To give it to the defender every once in a while.
Let's get some over under as.

Speaker 2 (07:53):
We get to the total for the Bills in the
Chiefs is forty seven in a half. I've actually got
the over in this one, fifty two. We'll tell you
who scores those points later on in the show. But
I do not foresee a bit of a rock fight here.
We just saw a breakdown of these teams going up
and down the field in their playoff history.

Speaker 4 (08:10):
I like the over here, Greg, I agree with you.
I actually am going way over. It might be too low,
but I have sixty two points in a shame. You
might say sixty two, that's a ridiculous number.

Speaker 3 (08:20):
It's fifteen.

Speaker 4 (08:21):
It's actually less than the average amount of points scored
in this matchup. In the playoffs between the Bills and
the Chiefs, the last three times they've played like it
has been an average of over sixty three points. I
do think ultimately these defenses aren't as good, and I
know the Chiefs haven't been as explosive this year, but
I think they're coming around at the right time offensively

(08:41):
that they'll be able to keep up in a shootout
and not telling you is gonna win, but I think
it's gonna be all points all the time.

Speaker 6 (08:46):
Well, I mean, you only got to be over by
half a point in this case, and I am over
by one and a half points. Forty nine points is
my totalness matchup, So it might not seem like as
high of scoring as Greg has it, but I still
have the over as well. I'm looking for some really
vintage like you know, Andy Reid Circle, like preseason, you know,
Game three back in the day. Who knows, but I'm
thinking we're gonna see some weird things. And then Joe

(09:08):
Brady's out here, he's looking for the head coaching job,
so I think we're gonna see a lot of creativity
from both offensive play callers. And like I said, imagine
like a preseason game three. Oh yeah, this is when
you know, Patrick said that he liked, you know, cheeseburgers
as well.

Speaker 2 (09:21):
So this is what I call it as for our show,
It's time for Mick the Case, which is not a
reference to a certain Canadians legal team which needs to
stop doing it. Let's dive into these championship matchups.

Speaker 5 (09:30):
Some more and play some fill in the blank guys.

Speaker 2 (09:33):
Buffalo is trying to go back to the super Bowl
for the first time since the nineties.

Speaker 5 (09:37):
Greg, the Bills will win if blank.

Speaker 4 (09:39):
Happens, if they can get pressure on Patrick Mahomes with
just four down line minutes.

Speaker 3 (09:44):
It's the old recipe.

Speaker 4 (09:46):
It's obvious and it's true, and it's what stands out
to me from the first matchup that they had this season,
the Bill's got more pressure than the Chiefs did despite
blitzing far less. I don't know if it was a
matchup thing. I think this four man pass rush I
talked about Greg Russo before has actually underperformed at times
this year, and yet when they're at their best at Oliver,

(10:08):
he'll give you a lot of problems. I think Von
Miller is playing better at the end of the season.
I mentioned Rousseau before, and this Chief's offensive line has
been very up and down. You do not want to
have to send extra defenders at Patrick Mahomes like the
Bills were forced to do a week ago against Lamar Jackson.
That was them kind of getting out of what they do.

(10:28):
Get pressure with four and they can win.

Speaker 5 (10:30):
All right, let's flip it to the other sides and
the Chiefs will win. If what happens.

Speaker 6 (10:35):
They can force Josh Allen to get uncomfortable and throw
in uncomfortable situations. One of the recipes for this team
this season that has worked out so well is not
turning the ball over. Now, if you force Josh Allen
to throw in uncomfortable situations, perhaps if they're not winning,
or if it's a close game, or if they feel
like there's some sort of time constraint, this could be

(10:55):
a recipe for a crucial turnover. It would be crucial
for the Chiefs defense.

Speaker 7 (11:00):
Now.

Speaker 6 (11:01):
In the first matchup, Spencer Brown was not playing, and
we saw that what happens there is a little bit
more pressure. Spencer Brown has actually been the best right
tackle at limiting pressures on passing down so if you're
gonna force Josh Allen to throw, perhaps you're gonna have
to look a little bit elsewhere because that big he
is also huge. He's like six ' eight and he's
all of six to eight, So it's not like it's

(11:21):
going to be an easy task.

Speaker 2 (11:22):
All right, let's go over to the NFC Greg. The
upstart Commanders will win if this happens.

Speaker 4 (11:27):
I'm not rooting for this, but if Jalen hurts just
squeezes the ball a little too tight, and I mean
two things by that number one. What number one is
just he's just holding on to it and he's not
making decisions. And people mentioned last week, oh, his time
to throw was one of his best all year. Yeah,
that's because he never threw it. He just kept taking
sacks that were over four seconds long. It would have

(11:48):
been much higher if he was making quicker decisions. And
when he makes quick decisions, he's one of the better
quarterbacks in the league. And when he holds onto the
ball not so much. And then when I say too tight,
I also mean like that the team is tight, that
the crowd, you fall behind in the game that they're
expected to win, and maybe you're not playing the loose
type of game that you need your leader Jalen Hurts

(12:10):
to play.

Speaker 2 (12:11):
All right, well, let's cheer that crowd up, Cynthia. If
Philly wins, if they.

Speaker 6 (12:16):
Don't hold the balls to tight just kidding, I'm looking
at this one, and they get pressure on Jaden Daniels
in both the run and pass game. Sam Cosby, not
playing in this one, talked about a right tackle this time.
We're going to talk about right tackle in this game
as well. If you can keep Jade and Daniels in
his rookie mode meaning not being able to see exactly
what the defense is throwing at him, not understanding false

(12:36):
leverages meaning is it man is its own. If you
pressure him to have to throw too fast or he
can't scramble, you're gonna get some pressure on him.

Speaker 7 (12:43):
And that's going to be the path forward for the Eagles.

Speaker 2 (12:46):
All right, there's the path ahead for all four teams.
So congratulations, you can't win if.

Speaker 5 (12:50):
All those things happens.

Speaker 2 (12:51):
Time for expert playmakers presented by into it Turbo tax.

Speaker 5 (12:55):
Let's do a little this guy or that.

Speaker 2 (12:56):
Guy with some star players, Greg who's going to have
more passing touchdowns? On Sunday Josh Allen or Patrick Mahomes.

Speaker 4 (13:02):
Okay, I'm gonna go Alan. He had the course of
this season. I know he could get it with his legs.

Speaker 7 (13:08):
That's what I'm thinking about.

Speaker 3 (13:09):
But I think the Chiefs are gonna be ready for that.

Speaker 4 (13:11):
And the Chiefs are a great rush defense and they
know that. That's how Josh Allen and the Bills want
to get it done in the red zone. So I
will go Josh Allen. It's been a better passing team overall.
It's been more explosive over the course of the season.

Speaker 2 (13:24):
All Right, Cynthy, Who will have more total touchdowns in
this one passing and rushing combined, Jayden Daniels or Jalen Hurts.

Speaker 6 (13:31):
Jalen Hurts Here why a touch push is almost to guarantee.
And if looking at where you can exploit this defense
all the secondary has some areas where you could make
a nice mismatch with aj Brown, DeVante Smith, Dallas Goddard.
There's just a lot of different pass catching options in
this one.

Speaker 2 (13:46):
All Right, this one's for me. More touchdowns James Cook
or Kareem Hunt. And I'm going on the other side
of where Gregson is because I think Josh Allen will
play hero ball and have rushing touchdowns in this one,
which we'll keep James Cook, who's the all time leader
tied for single season touchdowns in Buffalo. I'm gonna go
with Korea because I think he'll get more opportunities and

(14:06):
we'll get vulted by his quarterback. Let's go back to
Greg here more receiving yards Sunday, Scary Terry or AJ Brown.

Speaker 4 (14:13):
I have to go with Scary Terry, who actually isn't
the leading receiver for Washington this offseason, but he's very
close and he's been excellent all season long.

Speaker 3 (14:22):
He has such a high target share.

Speaker 4 (14:24):
When Jayden Daniels is throwing the ball, he's looking for
number seventeen. It's a great secondary and yet he's made
plays against the Eagles this year. Terry McLaurin, he can
do it all, but he's the contested catch god, so
even if he's not open, he is going to make
that grab against cornerback on the Eagles.

Speaker 2 (14:43):
Yeah, such a great season. So glad to see him
finally not just a viable quarterback, a really good quarterback
speaking a really good Cynthia is Saquon Barkley good? Well, Okay,
so we've established the Saquon is good, so we're gonna
have to make it a little more difficult for him
in the sky or that guy, Saquon Barkley have more
rushing yards than the entire Washington Commander's team.

Speaker 6 (15:04):
You're saying the word rushing yard, yes, not receiving yards
by a running back.

Speaker 3 (15:08):
Yes.

Speaker 7 (15:08):
The answer is Saquon.

Speaker 6 (15:09):
Barkley will have more rushing yards than all of the
Washington commanders.

Speaker 7 (15:13):
JU say, rude, yeah, super rude.

Speaker 4 (15:15):
You got Jayden Daniels involved, We got Austin Ekeler.

Speaker 7 (15:18):
Yeah, he's gonna go stand in Ryan Robbinson.

Speaker 5 (15:21):
You just add this guy runfield by himself.

Speaker 6 (15:24):
It's all about them explosive runs, baby, those ten plus yarders.
Saquon Barkley, he has so many rushes that are at
least ten yards, like more than double the next closest guy.

Speaker 3 (15:33):
Man.

Speaker 7 (15:34):
I just think he could easily get this.

Speaker 2 (15:36):
Yeah, and he can also wave goodbye like that, or
maybe late in the game he slides down and saves
it for.

Speaker 5 (15:41):
One more game in New Orleans.

Speaker 2 (15:43):
Speaking on one more last one here, who has more
receptions Sunday Khalil Shakir or Xavier Worthy? I think Xavier
Worthy has a nice game, but in terms of receptions,
I'm going Khalil Shakir mainly because I get the short
passing game involved. The Chiefs has I had an up
and down run defense this year in the playoffs, they've
been solid.

Speaker 5 (16:01):
Against the run.

Speaker 2 (16:03):
I think that kind of becomes an extension of the
run game, and they get them involved, get a lot
of options and a lot of targets.

Speaker 4 (16:09):
For Khalil, he's like Cole Beasley, plus you know his
old buddy Cole Beasley who Josh Allen loves to look
to it.

Speaker 3 (16:16):
So it's that plus a little more Patrick.

Speaker 6 (16:18):
Would you say it was more yards? Would you have
Worthy or would you have Shakir? I'm not I love
the receptions called, but if it was yards, would you
twitch it?

Speaker 5 (16:24):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (16:24):
I feel more likely that Xavier Worthy is going to
pop one, but share.

Speaker 6 (16:28):
We're with the yak baby just wait. But I'm with
you Shakira with the number of receptions. But maybe Worthy
with that yak factor, could have more yards.

Speaker 2 (16:36):
But both of those guys can do some work with
the ball in their hands. Still can't wait to see
all of these games, and we got to pick them.
We're gonna do that coming up, and Jamee Daniels is
gonna be the first rookie starting quarterback maybe to make
a Super Bowl. We're diving in to who the different
difference makers are going to be for the Commanders and Eagles.
You're watching game debut presented by Caesar Sports get.

Speaker 5 (17:06):
A matchup between teams and the division. So let's look
back at both times.

Speaker 2 (17:09):
The Eagles played the Commanders, the first place in the
East on the line in week eleven, third and three
from the twenty three there no Saquon Barkley into the
end zone. The Eagles would win twenty six to eighteen.
They would stay in first place in the East, and
we'd skip ahead to Week sixteen. The Eagles we're doing
pretty well first quarter already leading seven to nothing. Second
in twenty Hurts keeping it himself on a design run

(17:31):
for thirteen yards. Problem is he got his head smashed
into the ground trying to convince the official he was okay.

Speaker 5 (17:37):
He was not.

Speaker 2 (17:38):
He would miss not just the rest of this game,
but another game after that as he gets the hit
to the head and so into the game would not
come Jalen Hurts. They would go to the backup quarterback.
But let's not talk about that. Let's talk about Jaden Daniels.

Speaker 5 (17:53):
He hits Terry McLaurin there.

Speaker 2 (17:55):
To pick up ten yards with the thirty five yard
line trailing thirty three to twenty eight, same score. Later
on less than a minute and six, Jayden keeping it
in mn himself first and ten. After that big twelve
yard game, he led the team in rushing yards for
the second straight week. Five plays later, ten seconds going
no touchdown to Jamison Crowder, Brahm Weinstein went now.

Speaker 3 (18:17):
Stouch out watching time.

Speaker 2 (18:18):
The Commanders came back to win it thirty six to
thirty three after five turnovers. And so now we're all
set for round three of this matchup between the Commanders
and the Eagles. The stakes are as high as ever.
Let's talk some players to watch. Who do we watch
on offense, Cynthia.

Speaker 6 (18:32):
I'm going with the easy one here, and that's Jaden Daniels.
Why well, he's just setting rookie records left and right.
One of them that I really think is interesting in
this matchup is how well he's done against pressure against
the blitz stones are necessarily the same thing what we've
seen from him in his ability to scramble, he makes
great decisions, he keeps his head about him. In fact,

(18:55):
he might not even know how big of a moment
this is. I don't even know if he's had time
to process it, right. He hasn't had those years in
the league thinking about, hey, if I could just make
it to the NFL Championship game just this once, right,
So perhaps that's something that will work well and work
in his favor, especially because it's against a familiar opponent.
So I'm really interested to see if the moment is
too big, or if they can kind of center him

(19:17):
and keep him doing the things we've been seeing him
do all season long.

Speaker 4 (19:20):
Well, you said you're going for obvious themes. We have
to talk about Saquon Barkley. It's my offensive player to watch.
And I'm gonna let you in on a little secret,
oh that the mainstream media doesn't want. The success rate
for the Eagles rushing attack hasn't been that great for
the last month. It really started in that Commander's game,
if you remember, had some big runs early and everyone said, oh,

(19:41):
Jalen hurts left and then it didn't work that well.
And that's fine, but they're blocking wasn't great for him,
And if you look at the success rate really over
his last four games, and this even includes the playoff game,
it's down significantly from where it was the rest of
the season. Now they're hitting the explosives and if he
goes for seventy or eighty, it doesn't really matter. But
I do think it's interesting against a rush defense that's

(20:03):
struggle all season if the Commanders can prevent the fours,
the fives, the six that set up easy situations to
pass on third down, and then they will have a
chance in this game. And for the last few weeks,
whether it's the Rams or even the Commanders defense, for
much of that game, they actually have been stopping Saquan
for one yard games. Two yard games usually the dan

(20:25):
breaks because he's one of the best players of all time,
But that's the best you can hope for, is just
stopping him getting one in two yard games throughout the
courts of the game.

Speaker 2 (20:32):
Yeah, it's important to be consistent because when you're not,
it doesn't work out. And one thing was consistent early
on this season, zach Ertz was doing basically nothing. But
then he got to Philadelphia, looked across the sideline, and
he saw Nick Sirianni and that has pushed zach Ertz
to score seven touchdowns since then, all inspired by spite.
They walks off the field, gets it an altercation with

(20:54):
the head coach of the Eagles, a franchise that he's
scored a game winning touchdown in the Super Bowl four
and since then he's been on fire. He had five
targets against the Lions.

Speaker 5 (21:03):
You call five of them.

Speaker 2 (21:04):
He had a touchdown in that game. And I think
you gotta watch him, especially all third downs.

Speaker 5 (21:10):
Jane.

Speaker 2 (21:11):
This is not a meme like Jane Daniels is trusting
his tight end and he's making plays. So yeah, I
think you should watch for zach Ertz in this matchup.
Let's switch over to the defenses. Now, who do you
have your eye.

Speaker 7 (21:21):
On, Cynthia Frankie Louvu?

Speaker 6 (21:24):
Why because all quarterbacks should have their eye on him,
but specifically Jalen Hurts. Why because of his eight sacks
It just came on twenty nine pressures. That thirty one
percent pressure to sack ratio or sack to pressure ratio,
excuse me, is the second highest in the National Football League.
Frankie Louv has been a big reason why this defense
has actually had a nice up into the right trajectory

(21:44):
this season. He just keeps playing better and better. This
is a very dan Quinn like guy. It matches him
very very well. I think this will be one to
watch in this matchup.

Speaker 4 (21:55):
I am also going to talk about a Commander's player
who's acquired in a trade. It was Marshawn Lattimore and
the last thing you might remember about him was Mike
Evans really getting the better of him in the wildcardown.
Yet last week you didn't see a lot of them
on the screen, and you mentioned. Our friend Bram Weinstein,
who who covers the Washington Commanders, came out on the

(22:15):
NFL Daily podcast and he thought Latimore had his best
game as a Commander by far. I decided to go
back and looked at some of the numbers, watch some
of the tape, and he was moving well and seemed
to be back in the flow. He was coming off
of a hamstring injury. He seems to be fully healthy,
and this is the matchup that they got him.

Speaker 3 (22:33):
For AJ Brown in a big spot.

Speaker 4 (22:35):
AJ Brown has haunted this Commander's team over the last
few years. Latimore has the physicality to try to match
him in the call to keep an eye on Latimore.

Speaker 3 (22:44):
That is the matchup to watch.

Speaker 2 (22:46):
Yeah, regardless, it could be a tough matchup, but he
gives the defense so many more options to try how
to take that matchup one on one. I will also
take a former Saint who hates Dennis Allen and go
with CJ. Gardner Johnson because when they brought Gardner Johnson back,
they knew that they needed help. They had to make
changes in the secondary. Then they go and draft two
very good rookies and this defense has been spectacular, especially

(23:08):
late in the season. They lost to the Commanders, not
just happening because Jalen Hurts left the game, but.

Speaker 5 (23:14):
Gardner Johnson got rant from that game late.

Speaker 2 (23:16):
I think it would be a lot tougher to score
that touchdown with less than ten seconds to go, if
CJGJ had remained in the game, So he would be
my defensive player to one.

Speaker 4 (23:24):
I mean, poor DA might be a huge game deviut fan.
He's just turning on the program and just gets a
wild straight from Patrick.

Speaker 5 (23:31):
I don't know.

Speaker 6 (23:32):
I was gonna ask how many former Stains payers like DA,
but you are current stray.

Speaker 5 (23:37):
We go from talking about Marshall Ladlewoord CJ. Gardner Johnson.
It felt like the obvious segue to make.

Speaker 2 (23:42):
Let's go to over under as we get to the
point total for the Commanders and Eagles. Right now, it's
at forty seven and a half and a lot like
the AFC game.

Speaker 5 (23:51):
I like the over here.

Speaker 2 (23:52):
I've got fifty two points, which next forty seven feel
like not at all a problem.

Speaker 5 (23:57):
But we've seen this.

Speaker 2 (23:57):
Washington Commander's team go up and down the field against everybody.
This Eagles defense is good. I don't think they're gonna
hold him to that much. And of course I believe
the Eagles can score as well. So I got the open.

Speaker 3 (24:07):
This one was close for me.

Speaker 4 (24:08):
I have it at forty nine, but that is over
so we're gonna stay consistent. I don't think the passing
games will go as crazy, so it's more of a
running game for both teams. But you think about the
Eagles secondary, you think about the struggles the Eagles passing
attack has had on offense, and I think it'll be close.

Speaker 3 (24:25):
But right at the very.

Speaker 4 (24:26):
End, you're sweating it out and it's a last minute
field goal to get you over.

Speaker 6 (24:30):
Well, I have a fifty point game, so that too,
is over. We can we're a meme of overs, an
over meme. In fact, I'm looking at this one and
I think that what we have here is a Cliff
Kingsbury situation where he's done a good job of looking
at past teams that have had success against the teams
he plays and kind of just taking those ways and
making it happen for his team. And then we know
Saquan is at least going to have one touchdown, So

(24:52):
there we go on that side too.

Speaker 3 (24:54):
James and Bills from the AFC Championship.

Speaker 2 (24:56):
Let's look back at when they played back in week eleven,
the quarterbacks greeting each other, acknowledging both of their prowesses prowlysses.
You can see the prowess of Patrick Mahomes here rolling
to his right, hitting Noah Gray in the back of
the end zone to cut into that lead with seven
minutes a round, seven minutes to go on the ball game.
Let's fast forward to two minutes and thirty seconds. Mahomes

(25:17):
waiting for a chance to get the ball back. Team
mc dumma says, hey, Josh pump fake to TDD Johnson
and then just go full nuclear destructive quarterback fabricated in
a lab mode twenty six yard touchdown run, and that
would do it. The Kansas City Chiefs had their first
loss of the season. The Buffalo Bills won their sixth straight.
The Chiefs fell to nine to one. They would only

(25:38):
lose one more game, which was an asterisk because they
weren't trying. And now these two teams are back at it.
It's time for Seas the Season presented by the Caesar Sportsbook.
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(26:00):
in the ANFC Championship game between the Bills and the Chiefs. Well,
Josh Allen, Alfalo finally get past the Bills that did
to the Super Bowl, get past the Chiefs, or will
Casey's quest for three peet continue?

Speaker 5 (26:11):
Cynthia, what happens?

Speaker 6 (26:12):
I have the Kansas City Chiefs twenty five to twenty four.
This is about as close as they come.

Speaker 7 (26:19):
When I'm looking at this matchup.

Speaker 6 (26:20):
I'm looking at the defense for the Bills, because both
quarterbacks have been playing really, really well. Both quarterbacks are
absolute first Pellett Hall of Famers. But they get to
play each other's defenses, right, They don't have to play
Actually that's true other hey, you know, hey, but I'm
looking at what Patrick Mahomes has been able to do
in the playoffs and the playoffs, specifically against the Bills.
He's undefeated against the Bills when he and Josh Allen

(26:41):
have matched up in the postseason, obviously not in the
regular season. When I'm looking at what could happen in
this one, though, I'm worried about those missing potential pieces.
I haven't seen Taylor Rap yet, I have not seen
Christian Benford.

Speaker 7 (26:54):
That is a problemo when you.

Speaker 6 (26:55):
Have eighty seven and fifteen and also Xavier Worthy and
also all the other people who could potentially have even
just one catch to make it a big difference in
the schemes. So by the slimmest of margins nam Patrick
Mahomes returning.

Speaker 7 (27:09):
To try to win his third Super Bowl in a row.

Speaker 3 (27:12):
Look at old Cynthia.

Speaker 4 (27:13):
You know, all right, I'm just saying you're being sneaky
here one point win with a one and a half.

Speaker 3 (27:18):
She's rid of that.

Speaker 6 (27:19):
Caught me a coward earlier, So the models being a coward.

Speaker 7 (27:22):
I'm not trying to be a coward. It's just what
the model does.

Speaker 2 (27:25):
I'm going to be nice to the model. Eventually the
model will consume all of us. I also have a
Chiefs win. Mine is by significantly more points relatively to
Cynthia twenty nine to twenty three, because I saw something.
We look back and saw those Chiefs Bills postseason highlights.

Speaker 5 (27:41):
He saw Tyreek Hill running into the end zone by himself.

Speaker 2 (27:43):
I'm not making this comparison, but I saw something with
Xavier Worthy against the Houston Texans and the trust that
Patrick Mahomes had for him.

Speaker 5 (27:52):
Cynthia mentioned the injuries.

Speaker 2 (27:53):
In the secondary for the Buffalo Bills, who do have
kind of a problem in dealing with speed. Xavier Worthy,
of course has it, and I've seen this maturation of
Xavier Worthy in the offense.

Speaker 5 (28:04):
Also, Andy Reid's perception of how.

Speaker 2 (28:07):
To utilize Xavier Worthy makes me believe that the Chiefs,
yes it's boring, are going right back to the super Bowl.

Speaker 6 (28:13):
He used the word mature machurition better than old.

Speaker 4 (28:16):
Okay saying, no one ever accused me of being mature,
but I am definitely old.

Speaker 3 (28:22):
And I've been around long enough.

Speaker 4 (28:24):
To see this Bills team knocking on the door just
over and over, and sometimes in sports, it's your time
to break through. This is the Buffalo Bills time. Thirty
two to thirty.

Speaker 3 (28:35):
They get it done.

Speaker 4 (28:36):
It's not just because I picked them before the season
to win the Super Bowl, but.

Speaker 3 (28:40):
That doesn't hurt. Let's just scrag it up all the
way to New Orleans.

Speaker 4 (28:44):
Let's go back through these games, especially this one in
the Divisional round, where Josh Allen and this offense was
playing at a level they were ready to go win
a super Bowl. And yet I say this, this is
the best offense the Bills have ever had. It's the
most points they've ever scored in this stretch. They have
made it to the Divisional round or further for five

(29:05):
straight years. They've been in the top five of point
differential for five straight years, averaging twelve wins a year
throughout this time. And yet this is the best team,
the best position team to beat the Chiefs because they're
like the Chiefs, they can win any type of game.
They're diverse, they can run, they can beat you any
sort of way, and they don't make mistakes on either
side of the ball. I think their coaches are better.

(29:26):
I think the quarterback's better. It's their time. Let's go Bills,
all right, Grady's got the Bills, folks firing up.

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more or less, as we will acquire some foam fingers
and get some player props for this game. Cynthia will
Josh Allen have more or less than two hundred and
seventy seven total yards.

Speaker 7 (30:12):
Total yards total more?

Speaker 6 (30:14):
We told all of us agreed that it's more, because
you know, we just wanted to come out these less people,
but that would follow that more yards equals more points
in this game.

Speaker 7 (30:23):
I think you're.

Speaker 6 (30:24):
Going to have to see Josh Allen use his.

Speaker 7 (30:26):
Legs quite a bit. You actually do.

Speaker 6 (30:28):
Typically see him do it against the Chiefs more often
and in the postseason. So two trends here align and
alongside some passing yards as well.

Speaker 2 (30:35):
So more another quarterback also playing in this game, Greg
tends to kind of go on running journeys in the postseason,
even on gimpie legs. How many rushing yards, let's go
more or less? Twenty two and a half rushing yards?
Patrick Mahomes twenty five and a half rushing yard.

Speaker 3 (30:52):
I'm going to go less.

Speaker 4 (30:53):
It's partly based on what I saw a week ago
against the Texans. They did such a good job not
going past Mahomes, some of the defensive tackles almost waiting
for him to scramble. This was his one success scramble
here in the regular season, but last week it was
one of his worst games.

Speaker 3 (31:08):
As a scrambler.

Speaker 4 (31:09):
And I just think the Bills have lost in the
same sort of wag him home so many times. Aren't
they sick of it? Won't they just have a good
defensive game plan to not let Mahomes scramble, because you
know when he scrambles, it's only when he absolutely needs
to rip your heart out and they're sick of it.

Speaker 3 (31:24):
This is not the time.

Speaker 6 (31:25):
Do you know how many defenses would love to stop
Patrick Bults.

Speaker 3 (31:28):
I know, but the technical of that did it. They
had the blueprint. Just follow what they did.

Speaker 2 (31:32):
It reminds me that Lou Williams pres conference where they
couldn't stop Kevin Durant and it's like, hey, I promise
we tried.

Speaker 5 (31:38):
That was the goal.

Speaker 7 (31:39):
The problem is Patrick Mary. We're just gonna let him.

Speaker 2 (31:43):
Going up against Travis Kelsey also something you want to try.
At sixty eight and a half receiving yards as number
Cynthia outlined, fourteen consecutive playoff games he has gone above
the number.

Speaker 5 (31:54):
Yeah, I'm gonna go more, and I.

Speaker 2 (31:57):
Feel like sixty eight feels easy. I'm thinking up up
into the seventies or eighties. More for Travis Kelce, which
will also mean some shots of his girlfriend as well
in THEFC champions.

Speaker 7 (32:09):
More, more shots of them.

Speaker 5 (32:11):
More, We'll get that number on.

Speaker 2 (32:13):
No, just kidding, all right, when we come back, we're
making our picks any NFC commanders or Eagles, how worried.
Should Eagles fans be about Jalen hurts his knee and
as anyone bold enough to take Jaden's squad one soul is,
we'll tell you who. After this quick break, it's time

(32:36):
for home field advantage presented by Zillow Eagles and Commanders
at the Link. Philly has lost only one game at
home all season, but Jayden Daniels has proven to be special.

Speaker 5 (32:46):
Who wins the football.

Speaker 6 (32:47):
Games in Philadelphia, but only by four points?

Speaker 7 (32:50):
That guy Saquon Barkley.

Speaker 6 (32:52):
You're right, the mainstream media does want to say that
Saquan's just the.

Speaker 7 (32:55):
King and there's no asterisk there.

Speaker 6 (32:57):
However, it's all about those elusive and explosive runs and
this is where he really succeeds.

Speaker 7 (33:03):
It only takes one to bust for a touchdown.

Speaker 6 (33:06):
I hated it twice against the Rams last week, and
it was cold, cold, cold there. From looking at the
opportunity against Washington. Yes, they're good at not forcing missed
tackles or not missing tackles. The problem is is you
have to be close enough for that metric to even count.

Speaker 7 (33:20):
I don't know if they're going.

Speaker 6 (33:22):
To be close enough to get after this guy. Saquon
Barkley knows what's at stake. Saquon Barkley has been brought
to this team specifically to get them to the big game,
and I think that this is where he absolutely shines.

Speaker 7 (33:33):
But again, just four points. I don't think it's a
runaway victory.

Speaker 2 (33:36):
I am going to cheat and look at Cynthia's paper
and also get a four point Eagles win twenty eight
to twenty four in this one. Because also a very
good football player who hasn't forgotten how to play football
is Aj Brown. I still have faith in this Eagles
passing game. And Greg mentioned historically the success that he
has had against this team.

Speaker 5 (33:56):
There is scoring a touchdown.

Speaker 2 (33:58):
We've had pass interference calls against Marshawn Lattimore earlier on
in this season. He also had to drop last week
against the Rams that could have necessarily changed that game.
I don't think you can play defense against Aj Brown,
saying well, I hope maybe he drops the ball. I
think he makes the plays. I think Davante and Dallas
Goddard make plays. When those three are around. It's very

(34:20):
tough to beat this team with their starting quarterback. Greg,
I've got a birds fly into the Super Bowl.

Speaker 5 (34:25):
In New York.

Speaker 4 (34:25):
So we all agree on this one that the Commanders
will cover that six points and if we're gonna have
it be close. I went back and forth all week.
At first I thought Eagles are just more talented. Yeah,
if I don't know who's gonna win. But no, let's
trust scrag it up. Let's take the Commanders to win
this game.

Speaker 3 (34:43):
Because if you look at.

Speaker 4 (34:44):
These two coaching staffs, everyone agrees, you know that this
is going.

Speaker 3 (34:48):
To be close.

Speaker 4 (34:49):
Which coaching staff do you trust making smart decisions? Which
quarterback do you trust making smart decisions in a close
game in the fourth quarter? Is it Nick Sirianni just
letting the clock run out at the end of the
first half last week or making some crazy play are
becoming the main character? Is it Jalen Hurts making quick
decisions in the biggest of moments, Or is.

Speaker 3 (35:10):
It Dan Quinn on fourth downs?

Speaker 4 (35:13):
He's taking Doug Peterson's old lead with Howie Roseman back
in the day on the Eagles and they're always going
for fourth down and they're always getting it. Who's calmer
under pressure? It's Jayden Daniels At quarterbacks. Sometimes it's not
just about the depth charts. Obviously the Eagles are more talented,
but there is something really special about this Commander's team.
I think they're going to be playing loose. I think

(35:33):
they're gonna be ready to win, and I think they
win a tight one.

Speaker 2 (35:36):
See there, It is a little insight. As our teams
were eliminated last week. Greg still believes in magic. Cynthia
and I are doubtful about the existence of magic right
about now. Let's look through the player props in the
conference championships. In total Jane Daniels going over two hundred
and seventy eight to total yards, Sakwon Barkley one hundred
and twenty eight and a half, Terry looking at a

(35:56):
slim number sixty four and a half receiving yards, Josh
Allen one and a half passing touchdowns of Patrick Mahomes
with two hundred and fifty two and a half passards.
Let's take a look at all of the games this weekend.
When it comes for who we think will pass for
the most yards, we're all going with different guys. Cynthia,
you think it's a certain quarterback.

Speaker 5 (36:16):
In Kansas City.

Speaker 6 (36:17):
Yeah, there's the magic there with Patrick Mahomes and third down,
But Also, they have this formula. You talk about Xavier Worthy,
what are they doing differently with him?

Speaker 7 (36:25):
Well, they're throwing him shorter passes.

Speaker 6 (36:27):
This average depth of target has been basically cut in half.
And you know what still counts, yack baby, that counts
for Patrick Mahomes. So between Worthy, between Hollywood, between eighty seven,
between all the different pieces. DeAndre Hopkins, I'm with you
on that as well. I just think that this is
more of a pass heavy offense, and that's why I
think he has the most.

Speaker 7 (36:46):
Also, I like sitting like this now.

Speaker 3 (36:47):
Who knew.

Speaker 6 (36:48):
I've just been in this chair all season long, and
now I'm just like, Oh, this is more comfortable.

Speaker 7 (36:51):
It's better.

Speaker 3 (36:52):
I like me some Josh Allen this week.

Speaker 4 (36:53):
I mean to me, he's been the most consistent just
passer of these three throughout the course of the season.

Speaker 3 (36:57):
So I've taken out.

Speaker 2 (36:58):
Yeah, mine is just pure game script. I think the
Commanders get behind and Jaden's gonna have to be thrown
a whole lot.

Speaker 5 (37:03):
Let's move on to who we think will have the.

Speaker 2 (37:05):
Most receiving yards this weekend.

Speaker 5 (37:07):
Greg, You're going off the menu.

Speaker 3 (37:09):
I am.

Speaker 4 (37:09):
I'm going Dammy Brown, I put up the TAPO the
last couple of weeks, and you watch what Dammy Brown
has been doing where he's led the Washington Commanders in
receiving yards this season.

Speaker 3 (37:19):
And it's not just like one game. He pops up.

Speaker 4 (37:21):
Two games in a row where he's very steady, and
you see the type of routes that he's running.

Speaker 7 (37:26):
Brian Branch caught him from behind, though.

Speaker 4 (37:29):
Brian Branch is amazing. That catch was amazing, that throw
was amazing. You have him work in the outside, but
he can also do the crossers. He can also beat
you with some yak and I don't think it's fluky,
a lot of suddenness when you watch his routes coming
in and out of breaks. Maybe sometimes it's the guy
that you don't see coming Dammy Brown.

Speaker 2 (37:48):
All right, some Dammy Brown love. Let's flip over to
the defense. Who's gonna have the most sacks this weekend?
We all picked different guys, but I'm going with the
guy who I'm trying to get retroactively give the Super
Bowl MVP too, and that is Chris Jones who most
it's gonna be easier to rush the passer from the edge.
We'll see how much Spags allows him to do that,

(38:09):
or if he's just gonna soak up attention on the interior.
But wherever he plays, he makes plays. I've got Chris
Jones the most sexes.

Speaker 6 (38:16):
I picked George kr Loft is because he saw three
sacks last week because of all the attention that we're
given to Chris Jones.

Speaker 7 (38:22):
So I kind of drafted off yours. But whatever, I'm
still taking it.

Speaker 4 (38:25):
Yeah, and I Patrick said, I believe in magic.

Speaker 3 (38:28):
I mean I believe in magic.

Speaker 4 (38:29):
Johnson, He's gonna be very worried about this Jalen Carter match.
There it is because it's it might take magic to
stop this man, Jalen Carter against a backup without Sam
Cosmy out there. That is the matchup that worries me
the most as someone who had just picked the.

Speaker 5 (38:45):
Commander's time for write this down.

Speaker 2 (38:47):
As we get some predictions for Championship Sunday, why don't
we have the man who is on fire right now
and write this down, Greg Rosendal.

Speaker 4 (38:53):
I'm straight right, this downs eight out of nine, and
so I'm doubling down and I'm making it even harder
on myself.

Speaker 3 (38:58):
Jayden Daniels goes over.

Speaker 4 (39:00):
Fifty five and a half rushing yards. I think he's
gonna need to run to win. And then he just
pair that with my commander's victory. So it's not even
covering the six points. It's just as flat out commanders win.
You smash them together. We're rolling the dice and we're
going in New Orleans with it.

Speaker 3 (39:17):
Let's go.

Speaker 7 (39:18):
What's the expression.

Speaker 6 (39:19):
It's like pigs get fed and hogs get slaughtered. I
think you're going for the slaughter. I'm gonna stay with
the commanders, but I'm going with Austin Eckler and his receiving.

Speaker 7 (39:28):
Yard number over twenty three and a half. That could
happen in the first quarter. I am fine taking this one.
I love this opportunity.

Speaker 6 (39:35):
If you get that Jalen Carter pressure, if you get
pressure from Zach Bond, anywhere where is he going to look, Well,
it's going to be Austin Eckler and those receiving yards.

Speaker 7 (39:44):
Austin Eckler is good for them, for sure.

Speaker 4 (39:46):
That's one catch him just rolling down the sidelines and
bowling over people.

Speaker 2 (39:50):
And we also have talked about Saquon Barkley's ability to
make long plays in the run game. He can also
do it in the past game, which is why I
look at Jalen Hurts's total being at one hundred and
eighty one and a half passing yards and.

Speaker 5 (40:02):
I think he's gonna go north of.

Speaker 2 (40:03):
That number because we saw Mikay Beckton get called for
that illegal man downfield and that could have been a
big game in the screen game. This team can really
make is in the pass the game. They just haven't
really needed to. I think they need to this week,
and I think he goes over one eighty one and
a half.

Speaker 7 (40:17):
We all picked the NFC game. That's very funny, Okay,
so we need to do one an.

Speaker 5 (40:22):
Give us a free one, free one.

Speaker 6 (40:24):
We're going with a Josh Allen rushing touch I know
he didn't say so, but he also that that's hogwash.
We're gonna go with Josh Allen rushing touchdown.

Speaker 3 (40:32):
I mean, disrespectful. I'm the king.

Speaker 5 (40:34):
You called me old.

Speaker 7 (40:37):
Patrick is the king of it. Patrick has the this year.

Speaker 2 (40:41):
Enjoy the games, folks. We have fed pigs, we have
slaughtered them, we.

Speaker 6 (40:45):
Have washed them, and now I'm old Joy.

Speaker 7 (40:48):
Need an app, I need an app. I'm old.

Speaker 1 (40:50):
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