September 20, 2024 • 36 mins
Patrick Claybon, Gregg Rosenthal, and Cythnia Frelund focus on the Saints-Eagles matchup, and then they discuss if the Atlanta Falcons can get another win against the defending champs. Later, they breakdown if the Baltimore Ravens or Dallas Cowboys have the edge and then they highlight other week-3 matchups and share predictions.
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
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Speaker 2 (00:08):
All Right, welcome to Game Debut Present about Mercedes, Vince Patrick, Claibahn.
Estatic to be here with my dear friends, Greg Rosendalt
and Cynthia Freeland. I say dear friends because last week
did not go well for almost anybody. Congratulations to everybody
who won your Survivor pool. Sorry to everybody who's are
It's all over. We're trying to find something different to
do Greg for the rest of the early season.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
Yeah, you know, I don't want to talk about last week.
We're on to Cincinnati proverbially.
Speaker 4 (00:32):
But also some people realistically, if you were the team
that's playing them on Monday night, you know out somebody
is on to Cincinnati.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
In a little We will move on, but first because
we're honest, because we value your input and want to
show you sometimes things don't go as planned. Well say
that other than that, Miss Lincoln, how was the play?
Speaker 5 (00:53):
I don't know I can think about it. Is that
I'm wearing someone else's pants. I don't know I think
about right now?
Speaker 3 (00:58):
Yeah, I got someone else's pants, which pant? Sometimes you
just got to go with the show that you got.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Essentially, what happens is when you get picks wrong, somebody
comes and removes pants from you, and so we're pants.
We're gonna try to earn pants back. All of this,
I get picked up a game. Hey guys, So me
and Cynthia one game behind Greg Rosenthal who still has
the crown. But I will give you a little bit
of advanced notice. We had a lot of similar picks
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last week. Yep, that is not the case. Good Icy,
Let's talk some ball. If you knew coming into the
season the Saints would have one of the hottest offenses
in the league after two weeks, I'd be shocked. One
and two, I'd ask for some advice. New Orleans scored
ninety one points in two games, which is tied for
the second most in NFL history, forty five points a game,
ten points higher than the next team. Right now, So
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the Saints playing host to the Eagles on Sunday, Philly
one Saquon Barkley one field goal in the first half
away from being two to zero. Who has the edge
in this big matchup?
Speaker 6 (01:57):
So I think the Saints do.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
It's a classic case where you're talking about do you
trust the first two weeks of the season or the
data from last last year in the history. I trust
Alvin Kamara, one of the best running backs of his generation.
I believe it is going to be a Hall of
Famer someday. My eyes told me the last couple of
years he still had it, but.
Speaker 6 (02:16):
The team around him didn't have it.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
Now you look at the blocking that is just opening
up huge holes from great cohesion in terms of their
outside zone running scheme, and what if the Eagles struggled
with the last couple of weeks their run defense, They're
just getting pushed around on the edge.
Speaker 6 (02:31):
That's where the Saints win.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
When they get a lead, they just give it to
a k This Dome is going to be rocking. I
trust the first two weeks. This data matters to me.
Twenty twenty three, twenty twenty two is over.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
These are new Saints, Yeah, new Saints, but the old
talented Saints getting involved in a new system. I like
the Saints as well. It's a three point win for me,
New Orleans getting to win twenty three to twenty because
speaking of days of old, I've seen the Eagles pass
rush here in twenty twenty four and it's a rough
situation closing moments of the game. Look at Kirk Cousins,
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Nobody at his feet, nobody around them. This is with
under two minutes to go in the game. The Eagles
have every opportunity to get the Kirk Cousins. I think
of that BG rush against Tom Brady and the Super Bowl.
There was the rush that knocked out Rock Party in
the game from Hassan Reddick. In the NFC Championship game,
no pressure on Kirk Cousins all the way till that
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last throw. I think, considering how improved things are upfront
for New Orleans, Cynthia, I think the Saints score points.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
Well, we're rolling out of the gates here with a
prime number. I have the Philadelphia Eagles by one point
twenty six to twenty five.
Speaker 5 (03:40):
Play that noise, Play that noise. It's so great. I'm
looking at something.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
Interesting about Derek Carr and I love this stat. It's
interesting when you watch it because it's been eighty percent
of plays have either been a run or using play action.
Speaker 5 (03:51):
That's where they've had success. The thing is is we
don't know what happens if they're not playing with the
lead ninety one points you don't need to worry about it,
but they need to worry about it.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
Watching Derek Carr here and I love what I'm seeing.
It's very fun. I like the swagger. It's fun to
watch Alvin Kamara. But I'm looking at the football facts
and saying, the Eagles are going to take this one,
look at the data, and they're going to stop their run.
Speaker 5 (04:12):
That's the choice they're going to make.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
And then what happens when the play action isn't working
as well and the run game isn't working as well?
Are you going to have those past concepts? Is it
going to be the same model? Says one point win
in favor of the Eagles.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Well, I like it. We got different picks, so finally,
finally we enjoy fun. We got more fun in our
next game. A couple of teams they were able to
get it done in the closing moments Monday Night. Yeah again,
Kirk o Chains looked so much better than he did
in Week one, ultimately finding Drake London for that game
winning seven yard touchdown. Well comes next to the defending
Super Bowl champs Sunday Night in Atlanta, also blinking the
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physiological requirement, We will blink but can the dirty birds
keep the champs from rolling on undefeated? Grip?
Speaker 3 (04:52):
No, the Chiefs are going to get to three and
oh twenty four to seventeen. Sometimes you just got to
go with greatness. Of course, maybe the greatest quarterback of
all time, Patrick Blumbs and one of the greatest tight
ends of all time, Travis Kelsey. Let's just look at
all of his pastic plays. Kelsey such a key part
of the Chiefs offense. But wait, are all these plays
from twenty twenty three? Yes, they are, because we haven't
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seen any plays in twenty twenty four.
Speaker 6 (05:15):
What is happening?
Speaker 3 (05:15):
Travis Kelcey had won cats for like four yards last week,
didn't really do anything in week one when I asked
for a highlight package for this season that there is nothing.
At some point Travis Kelcey has to crank up those
old bones and get it going. I think this is
the week to get it done. The linebackers for the
Falcons are not strong Travis Kelcey.
Speaker 6 (05:35):
They hear people talking that he might be a little
past his prime. They're gonna get the all.
Speaker 5 (05:39):
Do you crank up old both? I don't know, anyways,
I do.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
I'm looking at this when I have the same winner,
the same score for the Chiefs, but I have a
little bit closer game. Twenty four to twenty one is
my final score. Remember last week we were like, if
only Kirk Cousins would manage to use play action. Well
he did, he did eight times, and guess what happened?
Not a lot when five of eight fifty two yards
no touchdowns like okay, and then without play action was
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where all of.
Speaker 5 (06:03):
The action happened. So we were wrong. I was wrong.
Craig was wrong.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
I mean, he didn't really move outside the pocket at all.
I still think it's not a great thing when you're
and you're.
Speaker 6 (06:12):
Picking the Chiefs.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
I'm picking the Chiefs, and I'm also telling you that
it's a really good week for Kyle Pitt's touchdown just
because of some tendencies for the Chiefs defense. But I'm
saying on the other end of it, the Chiefs end
up victorious in this matchup.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Kyle Pitts was open for a touchdown last week, and
Kirk threw it to Mike Trout in the back of
the zonne For some reason. I like that score so much, Cynthia,
I'm gonna take it as well. I've gotanked twenty four
twenty one Kansas City Chiefs as well. I understand the
Chiefs were dealing with injuries and there's that spot in
the regular season where they historically have a little bit
of a lull occasionally. But here's the Falcons defense. Yes,
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the Eagles are a good offensive line, but through two weeks,
the Atlanta Falcons defense are number thirty two in pressure
rate in the NFL. I need you to be better
if you're gonna play against Patrick Mahomes and try to
get a win, preferably with four people. Maybe send somebody
else if you want to. But that's dangerous with Mahomes
that it makes it tough for me to pick the I.
Speaker 5 (07:04):
Know something funny, guess who's thirty one?
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Who's that the Chiefs? Oh points for everybody, Kirk Patrick, congratulations,
I gotta have some opportunity. Let's check out some player
props on this one, Patrick Mahomes. Looking at that one
and a half passing touchdowns, seventy two and a half
rushing yards for Jon Robinson, and almost seven catches for
Reshoot right, I.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
Mean forty eight point five receiving yards? Is that for
Kelsey on the season? So far, he's not even there.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Get him, Greg, go? Greg is all about the old boats. Oh,
Travis Kells, get that carbon rator, crank up those old bones.
Let's get to the Ravens and the Cowboys. Dallas shockingly
boat raced by the Saints last week while the Ravens
just playing a shocked by the Raiders. Which team rebounds
on Sunday?
Speaker 4 (07:46):
Since your team does Baltimore winning this one twenty six
to twenty for I like a lot of things about
this game, but specifically Derrick Henry to overcome what will
likely be something that takes a little bit of time.
That's the fact that three of the offensive linemen for
the Ravens are different this season. That's sixty percent. That's
for you right there, Greg. But ultimately, what do you
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do when you have pressure? Old coach bek, you run
right at pressure. Raw so run right at Micah Parsons.
With Derrick Henry, I think they did not bring him
on this team not to use him, so we saw
it kind of get going last week against the Raiders.
I think that continues against a Mike Zimmer defense that
I'm still confused as to what we're going to see
you throughout the season.
Speaker 5 (08:26):
Yeah, we don't Mike ap Parsons as good.
Speaker 6 (08:28):
Though I'm not sure.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
I just don't think Mike Zimmer has the players like
the they're bringing in defensive tackles off the free agency wires.
Some are going to injured reserve Lynn Val Joseph is there.
I got the Ravens winning this game for much of
the same reason I like it when Cynthia and I are.
Speaker 6 (08:42):
On the same page.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
I got him winning by a touchdown, and it's because
of that run defense.
Speaker 5 (08:46):
Fisty.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
You want to know where they are according to Next
Gen stat against inside runs where bed last in the
entire NFL. You know where they are in red zone
defense against the run.
Speaker 6 (08:57):
Dead last, Ben last.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
You know who's pretty good running inside, Derrick Henry and
Lamar Jackson, by the way, and it feels like, you
know who's the best red zone weapon I've ever seen
that quarterback Lamar Jackson, who's great in the red zone,
it's Derrick Henry. Like, I just don't think the matchup works.
I don't think they got the players at linebacker or
defensive tackle for Dallas.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Well, I'm so glad that you guys are confident, because
I was not confident in making this pick, although I
will take the Baltimore Ravens by one point twenty one
to twenty because of what Cynthia mentioned, there's real issues
up front and at some point at oh to two,
the Baltimore Ravens are going to need to figure out
the terrier of that offense a lot of specifically on
the right side. But then I'm thinking about what the
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defense is dealing with. And Dallas, whether through personnel or
also schematically play calling was feels too, have just punted
on running the ball, making running the ball an afterthought,
making things a little tougher on back in the offense.
For those unfamiliar with Next Gen stats and the expected
yards per carry, They've got years of data on where
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players are located on the field. You hand off and
then see where the player has the handoff, and they
give you how many expected yards that you will have
on a particular play. Dallas has negative sixty one yikes.
Speaker 4 (10:11):
Negative sex Negative is bad, okay for a defense, negative
is good.
Speaker 5 (10:14):
For an offense, negative is bad.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
So I've also got next Greg stats and I've been
doing this show a while. We've been watching football a while.
Have you ever seen a John Harbough team go oh
to three. When you see a team as talented as
good as the Ravens, do you think Lamar Jackson's ever
going to be owing three? Sometimes you don't have to
get like too smart about it. They're just not going
to be oh and three. That's not a bad way
to pick games.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
I hope we never see that moment of Greg saying
that again. I would not like to have to revisit that,
considering the options that are available. We're just getting started
here on game debut. Coming up, a battle of undefeated
squaring off in Minneapolis. It's Shroud versus Sam Darnold. Two
potential future Hall of Famers are picks for Texans Vikings.
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Coming right up after this quick break, it's time for
the Drive to Excellence presented by Mercedes Benz. The Charge
and Steelers in Pittsburgh, both teams sitting at two and O.
Justin Herbert dealing with an ankle injury. Who gets to
three and oh?
Speaker 4 (11:10):
Cynthia the Pittsburgh Steelers get to three and oh with
a twenty two to nineteen. When I love a good
twenty two because everyone seems to be so excited about them.
Speaker 5 (11:18):
Why because of TJ. Watt, of course TJ.
Speaker 4 (11:21):
Watt, who's had three pressures and exactly three pressures in
the past two games. When you're watching what come off
the edge, it's just a nightmare for any quarterback in
this situation. And I know Joe Alt's been Grady's four
pressures allowed in fifty one drop backs, which is wonderful,
but let's be fair, what is a different animal. He's
the hardest to defend for even the most seasoned of veterans.
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But lining up across from a rookie, like you know,
they have that like welcome to the NFL moment, that
is this is going to be his welcome to the
NFL moment.
Speaker 5 (11:49):
Hey, rookie, wasn't that the show? Whatever?
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Yeah, this is gonna be fun.
Speaker 5 (11:55):
Thanks are gonna be great.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
So you got a three point win. I've got a
two point win for the Pittsburgh Steelers. It's still a win, though,
And I'm thinking back to the early days of picket
to Pickens and it's like, oh, we're having all this fun,
and there's the literation and now it's like, wait a second,
was that just George Pickens? This is what he does
and justin fields and he are leaking up and making
a lot of plays even if they're not showing up
in the stat but sheet. We've had a couple of
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long DEPI calls. They were going right at Patrick Swutan
a week ago. Since the start of last season, he
leads the entire NFL in yards where the expected completion
percentage was less than fifty percent.
Speaker 6 (12:29):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
I think this is a game where big plays can
swing it, and our trusts the Pittsburgh Steelers can make
those plays. I don't know if the Chargers are gonna
make big plays in this one.
Speaker 6 (12:37):
Great well, they've made big plays in the running game.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
I look at these two teams and only one of
them can run the ball.
Speaker 6 (12:43):
That's the not the San Diego Chargers, the.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
Los Angeles Right, they got two great coaches, but only
one great quarterback in Justin Herbert. As long as he plays,
I like the Chargers to win this game seventeen to fourteen.
Now I go through why the Chargers are better, and
I can hear you all the way from Pittsford, but
the Steelers have the great defense. So to the Chargers,
these are the top two defense in the league right now.
Joey Bosa is having one of those seasons. When you
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watch him this year, you realize, oh yeah, when he's healthy,
one of the very best players in the NFL.
Speaker 6 (13:14):
Khleio Max still getting it done.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
Pass rush from the interior, and in terms of their depth,
it's been fantastic. I like their secondary. So to me,
it's two great defenses. It's two offenses that haven't been
so great through the air, but one team that can
run the ball. That's the Chargers, not the Steelers. Let's
just Greg it up. I just s gregged you a
win Steelers in Week one. Now I'm going against you.
It's a just Greg revenge game.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
Greg, giveth and take it away? How does Greg feel
about your team? Find out next week the.
Speaker 5 (13:43):
Third person talking against me every time.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
We're gonna see if this is a trendy Greg going
back and forth on the Pittsburgh Seels. Another team has
jumped out to a two and zho start, the Vikings
so far, no Kirk Cousins, no problem for Kevin O'Connell's squad. Indeed, Texans,
Vikings both undefeated. It's stroud. It's the Darnald Hove buzzing
in all of our ears. Something's got to give here.
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Cynthia who walks away from this game undefeated.
Speaker 4 (14:08):
The Houston Texans walk away undefeated twenty four to twenty.
I'm looking at my college friend Brian Flores.
Speaker 5 (14:15):
He's just a lot old with me. Just kidding, he's
just a little with me, but he loves the blitz.
Speaker 4 (14:18):
Since he entered being their defensive coordinator, no team has
blitzed more than his. When I'm watching this team and
then I watched c J. Stroud, I would recommend to
him because I know he's watching our show.
Speaker 5 (14:29):
Maybe don't blitz him so much. Because CJ.
Speaker 4 (14:32):
Stroud is very good against the blitz. I understand perhaps
without Joe mixing, things could look a little bit different.
I don't care. This is not an opportunity. His splits
are ridiculous against the blitz, so maybe find another option
in this matchup.
Speaker 5 (14:47):
The trend is not your friend in this case.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Yeah, I've got a four point win by the Houston
Texans as well, twenty three to nineteen. Pressure, of course,
being a key theme in this game. In one place
the CJ. Stroud is able to go when the pressure
amounts is to Nico Collins, who was having a great
start to the season. I'm just a general great start.
Great when CJ is under pressure. He's been targeted five
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times this season. He's caught every single one of those
passes for one hundred and thirty five yards and a touchdown,
including one that he finished emphatically in the end zone
against the Chicago Bears, which was one of my favorite
plays from last week, far and away eclipsing the rest
of the roster in that stat They're both very good.
I think they could score more. I've got the Houston
Texans Greg.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
I struggled with this pick. I went back and forth
all week because I think st J. Stroud's outstanding. My
son Walker is now a Texans fan somehow.
Speaker 5 (15:38):
Wasn't he a Jags fan?
Speaker 6 (15:40):
No, he was never a Jackson.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
But I'm going Vikings in this game twenty seven to
twenty four. Look, I think the Texans are going to
have a better season, have a better team overall. But
I can see it on Monday morning us asking how
are the Vikings three and know how are they doing it?
With their linebacker play and this defense and Brian Flores
that I just think cooked up a very similar offense
in the forty nine ers and Brock Purty and it's
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a challenge that CJ. Stroud and this offense has not
yet seen. And there's just something going on with this
team early. Like I said, I think the Texans have
a better season. But look at the linebacker Blake Cashman
flying all over this field. It's a Blake Cashman revenge game.
He did great for Demiico Ryans last year, and yet
Brian Flores is using him in all sorts of creative
ways as a pass rusher, in coverage, in terms of
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his run defense, this defense, to me, has a chance to.
Speaker 6 (16:28):
Be really special.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
They're really smart, and I just think Texans go about
thirteen and four and this is one of those four
vikings get the win. Let's just scrag it up again
twice in a row.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Not just Cashman. We got Daniel Hunter in a revenge
game as well. Jonathan Grenard a lot of revenge in
the air in this one. So per the early picks
on the show, at the very least, we're not all
gonna have a bad week. At the same time, von
Wiga Football, let's look at some of the highest over
unders coming up in Week three. The Lions and the
Cardinals number at fifty one and a half following up
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on the Eagles and Saints and then Raven's and Cowboys
at forty eight. So let's dive right in to that
matchup at the top Vegas expecting plenty of points. Kyler
and company obliterating the Rams last week, did they keep
it rolling against Cynthia's Lions grit?
Speaker 3 (17:16):
Not exactly, but I think Kyler Murray keeps it rolling.
I have the Lions winning this game thirty three to
thirty one. So that big number we saw fifty one. Ever,
I feel better about that number getting obliterated than I.
Speaker 6 (17:28):
Do either of these teams winning. They're both fantastic.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
Kyler Murray is playing quarterback at a level that maybe
no one else is matching right now in the entire league.
He can make the plays inside a structure, he can
make the plays on the move, and he's certainly making
plays outside of structure. One of the most special just
talents in terms of his running and his passing ability.
We've been waiting for a season like this from Kyler Murray.
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I think it can last throughout the course of the season.
There's been hot stretches before, but I think the foundation
of this offense and what Drew Petsig is doing can last,
and I think they're gonna be one of the top
five offenses in the league.
Speaker 6 (18:03):
But it's not enough to beat your li.
Speaker 4 (18:04):
I mean, this is how you know I pick with
a model and not my heart, because as a Lions fan,
I'd be superstitious and be like, they're not gonna win.
Speaker 5 (18:10):
I don't even care if I lose whatever.
Speaker 4 (18:11):
I have Detroit winning twenty seven to twenty three this week.
And I want to alert you to some people that
maybe you don't know as well, and that is the
linebacker level of the Detroit Lions defense. We know about
Alex Azeloni. He's got some great blonde hair, he's wonderful.
He may or may not be playing. So may I
introduce you to Derek Barnes and to Jack Campbell. Jack
Campbell's the guy who was drafted in the first round,
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and I me Cynthia Freelan was like, Oh, they.
Speaker 5 (18:34):
Over drafted a linemack.
Speaker 4 (18:36):
That's okay, it's working out for them right here. This
is going to be a big deal in this matchup.
You talk about why Kyler Murray is so great and
why this offense could be so great. Well, Number one,
Kyler Murray's always a threat to run the ball. And
number two, they're using thirteen personnel really really trickily, so
three tight end sets. And one of the ways to
counteract that is to have a really good linebacking cord
to say, I see you're thirteen.
Speaker 5 (18:57):
You're not gonna get beat by me.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
I'm looking over at the offense. It's unanimous. I have
a Detroit win twel oh no to twenty six.
Speaker 6 (19:05):
Though thread in the dah.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
Well, I thought about I thought about changing this, but
then I thought about what happened last week. The Detroit
Lions out gaining, doubling up the Tampa Bay Buccaneers in
terms of yardage, but still losing the game. And right
at the end of the first half, the kicking teams
coming out on the field, the offense is trying to
get going. They're trying to get the ball spike Dan Campbell.
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Immediately as soon as the halftime interview comes up, he says,
that's on me. I messed up. I callst our team.
I'm not taking this from a motivational standpoint. The Lions
have had to play two teams that they just beat
in the playoffs this year.
Speaker 5 (19:42):
There's so much familiarity to Cardinals, and.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
There's gonna be so much attention to detail. After Dan
Campbell himself acknowledges his mistake, I think the team picks
up and I think they run the ball pretty well. Again.
Speaker 6 (19:52):
I'd like to see you try to mimusk Cardinals fans.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
Let's go, well, yeah, what it means, somebody switch it.
Speaker 5 (19:58):
I don't want that, like nothing against the.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
Cardinals, but now if it helps, Cynthia, we're not going
to determine the game. Let's get some quick fix here
on game deview. The Packers and Titans in Nashville. Green
Bay taking care of business last week, No, Jordan Love.
Now they got to go and win on the road, Cynthia.
Do they do that?
Speaker 6 (20:18):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (20:18):
They win twenty one to twenty.
Speaker 4 (20:19):
I want to point out something that maybe we've forgotten here,
and that's the Green Bay Packers defense leads the league
in interceptions.
Speaker 5 (20:25):
And we know one thing for certain, and that's that
Will Levis. He's a high stakes poker player.
Speaker 4 (20:30):
He's either going to hit you a home run or
he's striking out. And I think in this case that
doesn't match up well with what we've seen from this
Jeff Halfley defense another area where I was like, I
didn't know what we're going to see.
Speaker 5 (20:39):
Turns out we're going to see a lot of smart.
Speaker 4 (20:41):
Risks and a lot of the ability to take the
ball away being in the right spot. Interceptions can be fickle,
but placement is a good deal.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
Greg Jess work it up, Bi Gregor Dolphin Seahawks in
the Great Northwest. Skyler Thompson's starting for the Fins while
Tua's out. Does he get a dune grin?
Speaker 3 (20:56):
I love the Seahawks in this game twenty seven to seventeen.
Gino Smith is playing outstanding football so far this season,
right there with Kyler as one of the best quarterbacks
in the league. And that's the spite get seeing a
lot of quick pressure in his face. That might happen
on Sunday, but both of these offensive lines have been
giving up a lot of quick pressure. The difference is
Skyler Thompson is starting at quarterback for the Dolphins.
Speaker 6 (21:18):
It's gotten a little lost in this shuffle.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
The Dolphins offense did not look right when tuatungue of
Ilo was out there, and that's only going to get
worse with their backup.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
Yeah, we're all in the Seahawks last one Jacks Bills
on Monday Night. I've got the Bills maintaining their win
streak and this one twenty four to twenty two. Jags
have been in every single game this season. I don't
think it's out of the range of expectations for them
to come up and win this game. But early season,
Josh Allen's were taking care of the ball. The Bills
are in top five and turnover differential. Jacks have made
a ton of mistakes. I can in good faith pick
them to go up to Buffalo and get a win,
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but I'll do I do think it's closer than some
folks might think. As we look at the forty nine
Ers and the Rams. The first touchdown score odds Jordan
Mason leading the way with Kylin Williams right behind him
Brandon aut Because some folks were playing for the forty
nine Ers, Dwan Jennings and DeMarcus Robinson. That game gonna
take place about eighty seven feet behind Cynthia next door
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at so Far Stadium. Sand Friend trying to rebound after
last week's lost to the Vikings while the Rams are
just trying to save their season. Who comes out on top.
Speaker 4 (22:18):
Cynthia Niners come out on top twenty four to fifteen.
I'm just gonna give love to Fred Warner here. Why well,
number one he's playing so we can talk about him,
and number two. I don't know if people understand just
how good he is. So if you're looking at wind
share at his position, he is like a full like
probably one of the bigger. It's hard because it's not
a very big number in general, right, like wind share
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for quarterbacks only five. So like when you're talking about
the difference between a tenth of a wind share point
that is massive even though it doesn't seem.
Speaker 5 (22:45):
Massive, but it is asked by a lot huge.
Speaker 4 (22:48):
Difference between the next closest guy in the run versus pass.
Speaker 5 (22:51):
Like he's a huge difference maker. We just love Fred
Warner here.
Speaker 4 (22:54):
And you know, it stinks that there's so many injuries
in this game, but I love watching Fred Warner.
Speaker 3 (22:59):
Doesn't matter, right for all the injuries that the forty
nine ers have, And it sounds like George Kittle also
probably out of this scheme. They still have great players
like Trent Williams and Brandon Nyuk and Brock Purty, but
how about the role players like Juwan Jennings stepping up.
You talk about season the moment. Who grabbed Juwan Jennings
off the waiver wire this week? It was me and
I think he's gonna have the best month of his career.
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There's a reason why they gave Juwan Jennings a big
contract this offseason. Yes, he does all the dirty work
in the blocking game, but he's a very talented catcher
of the football over the middle where Brock Purty likes
to throw the ball. They have great chemistry from their
three years together, and I think he's gonna have a
big target Shair. Brandon Nyuk is really not quite himself yet.
Juan Jennings, why Jenniver one, Let's go.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
Yeah, it's like every third down Brockberty is gonna throw
the ball to Juwan Jennings. I've got to San Francisco
win as well. Twenty three to twenty. My main hope
with this football game is that everyone's okay after this,
because the total feels a little bit high with everybody
going down with injuries. Greg and I were in the news,
were completing with Sean McVay late in the game against
the Cardinals to just take Matthew Stafford out of the game.
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He was pressured on thirty seven percent of his dropbacks,
sacked five times. Those Niner injuries are on the offense.
Defense remains mostly intact, including Fred I'm gonna take the Niners.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
You'll note, though, Patrick and I both have them covering
this spread here. This is a great rivalry where the
forty nine ers almost always come out on top, and
it's always really competitive, even for some bad Rams teams.
Speaker 6 (24:28):
I think they keep it close.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
So Ramley meme away. We hope the Rams all come
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for to get the full terms. The Bengals just one
play away from upsetting the Chiefs in Arrowhead last weekend.
Forty eight seconds left, fourth and sixteenth, Dejon Anthony gets
called for this pass interfere. It's al Rashia Rice giving
Casey a first down. A few plays later, Harrison Bucker
nailed a fifty one yard game winner. So now because
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of that, since he sits at zero to two, they
play host to Jaydon Daniels and the Commanders on Monday
Night Football. Do Burrow in company finally get the ship
right at here?
Speaker 6 (25:22):
They absolutely do.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
Not only do they win, they put a thirty burger
on the board.
Speaker 6 (25:26):
Is that a thing?
Speaker 3 (25:27):
Thirty three to twenty three? So they get over the
seven points because Joe Burrow is back. It got lost
in the penalty at the end of the game. That hey,
that quarterback of the Bengals we were a little worried
about coming out of week one.
Speaker 6 (25:39):
He looked like the old Joe Burrow in week two.
T Higgins might also return in this game.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
But the most important thing is that Joe Burrow looked
confident in his wrists, was throwing the ball deep.
Speaker 6 (25:49):
Well.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
Again, I think this is one of the worst defenses
in the league. If I had to rank who has
the worst cornerback group right now in the league, it
might be Washington. So that is a huge mismatch against
this wide receiver group and Joe Burrow a lot of
points for the Bengal I have.
Speaker 4 (26:05):
Twenty nine to twenty in this matchup in favor of Cincinnati.
One way to counteract maybe the passing game on your
defense being not as great is to run the football,
especially between the tackles.
Speaker 5 (26:16):
Somewhere. We saw last game Brian Robinson.
Speaker 4 (26:20):
He had one hundred nine yards between the tackles on
ten rushes. Can you do the math, it's ten point
nine per rush. Yeah, you got it.
Speaker 5 (26:26):
There we go.
Speaker 4 (26:27):
But ultimately the point is is between the tackles has
been a source of strength for the run game. So
if there's an area that you would like to target
the Bengals, I sat in these seats and said, I
love that they picked Chris Jenkins to kind of help
the DJ reader whole, But you know what, he hasn't
played yet, so ultimately they're still missing some of that
run stopping defensive power that we're looking for, which means
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Brad Robinson Junior is a full send for your fantasy needs.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
I like this matchup as well. I think Jane Daniels
in the offense are going to score points. The trouble
is that defense, the Washington Commanders that we're talking about
it's a three point win, I've gotta have having a
mc fearson field goal to make it twenty seven, and
then the command to get some points late. Perhaps you
could consider them garbage time points, but ultimately look at.
Speaker 6 (27:09):
Why projecting garbage times?
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Yeah, because look at what the first two weeks have
been like. If you're Malik Neighbors or Mike Evans, you're feasting.
How some of the best games receivers has had this
entire season through two weeks, we've only had two weeks
their number thirty two in passing efficiency defense to make
it worse than the number twenty six team in terms
of pressure rate. For those who are concerned about Jamar
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Chase early on in twenty twenty four, I think this
is an opportunity for Jamar Chase and Joe Burrow to
get things figured out. So it's a meme fest for
the Bengals. Let's get into some more picks the Bears
and the Colts. Caleb Williams Smith most of his time
last week running for his life against the Texans Indies
still looking for win number one on the year. Do
they get it? Greg?
Speaker 6 (27:52):
You know what, they're not looking for a running game
they've had it this whole time.
Speaker 3 (27:55):
They're gonna win this game by doing what they've already
done twenty four to twenty.
Speaker 6 (27:58):
The Colts are not going zero and three. They're too
talented for it.
Speaker 3 (28:01):
Jonathan Taylor and Anthony Richardson have and getting it done
on the ground.
Speaker 6 (28:05):
This whole time.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
We expected a great offensive line. It's been great. Jonathan Taylor.
After a Week one where I didn't quite see the
explosion that I wanted, I thought ran very well in
Week two.
Speaker 6 (28:17):
Let's build the whole plane out of this running game.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
I know you don't want to run Anthony Richardson fifteen
times a week every week, but how about this week
against the Bears, who really aren't built to stop the run.
Speaker 6 (28:28):
They're not that effective stopping the run.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
They're fantastic against the pass, and the Colts are a
little erratic that way.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
So this is a game.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
Just run the ball, get this win, get to one
and two, and everyone's happy, at least everyone that picked them.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
Like me, Well, you've got a four point win. I
agree in the standpoint of the Colts winning the game,
but we're taking completely different routes there because I don't
think it's running the ball. I think it's the big play.
The big play from Anthony Richardson helps them score the points.
And on the other side, the Bears have a real
issue in protecting Caleb Williams. It is significant time after
time again against the Houston Texans, he was getting smashed.
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The Bear offensive line surrendered twenty three pressures on forty
eight dropbacks and the math has been done for me.
That's forty seven point nine percent. She was doing it
in her head while I said that. Eleven quickly press
lines as well makes it very, very difficult. I've got
the Colts twenty to seventeen.
Speaker 5 (29:20):
So hey, have you guys been reading the injury report? No?
Speaker 4 (29:22):
Okay, Well, I have Chicago winning this game twenty two
to twenty one.
Speaker 5 (29:27):
Why because when you can't stop the run, it all
becomes much more difficult.
Speaker 4 (29:31):
I've seen Forrest Buckner, he's been on okay report and Leatu.
Speaker 6 (29:35):
Latu that's an issue.
Speaker 5 (29:37):
That's also an issue.
Speaker 4 (29:39):
They're also just absolutely let Joe Mixon and Josh Jacob's feast.
DeAndre Swift good pick for fantasy this week. I think
that's going to be a very smart way to get
Caleb Williams out of some of the trouble we've seen,
especially on third down.
Speaker 5 (29:51):
Their down's been an issue. Not gonna lie, I'm not
gonna pretend it hasn't. But in this case, I think
we get it. Maybe it's a DJ.
Speaker 4 (29:59):
Moore first touchdown through the air for Caleb Williams. I
don't feel strongly about it. It is a one point win,
but I do think that I see the path and
I understand. I understand my own maths.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
As it turns out, there is well between the Colts
not stopping anybody on the ground and the Bear's not
getting something going. Something has to give between these two teams.
The Bears actually a third game of the year against
the third AFC South opponent of the year. They'll wrap
that up on October thirteenth when they get the Jags.
Look at some more quick picks here on game debut
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quick Fix presented by Zillo. The zero to two Broncos
against the unbeaten Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Baker's been balling. Does
he keep that going? Great?
Speaker 3 (30:38):
He does, because his defense got to keep it going
against bow Nicks. It's tough to watch this Broncos offense
right now. The Bucks win this game twenty three to seventeen,
because bow Knicks has no time to throw. Sean Payn's
asking him at the line of scrimmage to make a
lot of the protections and identify free rushers, and.
Speaker 6 (30:57):
He's not really doing that well with it. He's a rookie.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
Count on your offensive line to do that. Maybe help
him out a little bit, coach, because he doesn't look comfortable.
And when you're not comfortable, the last defensive coordinator, defensive
play caller you want to see is Todd Bowles, who's
just gonna send all sorts of crazy pressures at bow
Nicks and probably cause a.
Speaker 6 (31:15):
Lot of turn on.
Speaker 4 (31:16):
I mean, they've been having creepers at the highest rate.
Speaker 5 (31:18):
They've been doing all these advanced things.
Speaker 4 (31:19):
But also know Mike mcglinchy along the O line for
the Broncos, that is a massive problem.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
I was being generous giving the Broncos seventeen points here,
so I just.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
Wanted to say that, Yeah, Greg is always generous.
Speaker 5 (31:30):
That's what we think about.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
Greg.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
Let's go to our next game, the Giants and Browns
in Cleveland. Hopefully the g Man have found a kicker
that they plan on allowing to kick the football. How
do you see this one playing else.
Speaker 4 (31:40):
To think Cleveland wins this one twenty four to seventeen.
I want to talk about a guy that we haven't
gotten a chance to talk much about this year, and
that's Amari Cooper. This is the Amari Cooper turn it around.
Let's see the end zone. Big game for Amari Cooper.
I love the injury report this week that says that
maybe the tackles are going to play, because that has
been the problem for this Cleveland offense.
Speaker 5 (31:59):
They've just been under a ton of pressure and just
let my guy, Amari Cooper get the ball.
Speaker 4 (32:04):
Well, it's so fun to watch him be good, and
this is a great defense to match him up against
to kind of get back on track again, especially if
the starting tackles are playing.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
Okay, so when we picked these games, we picked the winner,
but we also picked the spread, and actually the Giants
plus six and a half is one of my favorite
picks of the week. I wasn't ready to go the
whole way because it's Daniel Jones versus this defense, but
I've watched this Brown Steam enough that they're just not
good enough to be a six and a half point
favorite against anyone. I feel like they're seven point their offense.
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Their offense to me is not trustworthy. It just feels
like a low scoring, ugly game. Every Browns game is
going to.
Speaker 4 (32:38):
Be like, like, do you think Jerome Ford then is
gonna be like hey, He's gonna call me and be like, hey,
that guy, Greg, he's so not generous with me.
Speaker 5 (32:45):
That guy's the least generous person I've ever seen.
Speaker 6 (32:47):
He probably will they'll run the ball with.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
Passing Jerome despite what he says about the offense, Greg
is generous. This is not maybe debatable. Let's go to
our last quick pick, Andy Dalton and the Panthers going
to Vegas to take all the Raiders, and I like
Las Vegas right here to keep things going, get their
two game win streak twenty three to nine. In fact,
we've gone in using technology and got highly edited video
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featuring Andy Dalton starting for the Carolina Panthers, just kidding,
it's real, it's last year and he lit it up.
He had two touchdowns, one listening garbage time. He threw
the ball fifty three times. That's gotta be good for
at least nine points.
Speaker 6 (33:27):
Is this being Are you being mean to Andy Dalton?
Speaker 5 (33:30):
Just wait, Andy, Dalton.
Speaker 4 (33:31):
I will say one thing, you could potentially play these
wide receivers in this matchup because they're gonna have to
throw the ball and Andy Dalton's much better again zone
coverage than the guy who got bench right. Bryce Young
had eight interceptions when facing zone. So I you know,
you could potentially look at some wide receivers if you
think they're gonna score more than nine points.
Speaker 5 (33:48):
Yep, you don't, then don't play the receivers.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
I lost a whole bunch of games picking the Carolina
Panthers last year. I'm not making that mistake in twenty
twenty four. Folks, get out your pins and your paper.
When we return, it's time for write this down. We
are dishing out bold predictions week three. Stick around like
ctb's gloves. When we come back, you're watching Game DEVIUT
presented by Mercedes Bits. The time for write this down.
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As we get to some predictions for week three, start
us off ground.
Speaker 3 (34:18):
So I'm going with Brian Robinson Junior going over fifty
rushing yards. And if you've been watching this show closely,
you might say, didn't Cynthia just talk about Brian Robinson.
Speaker 6 (34:29):
Yes, kids, One of.
Speaker 3 (34:29):
The smartest things you can do in school, find the
smart person and then like copy them because they're gonna
be right. The Bengals have nothing in the interior. They
were bad defending the run last year. Then they lose
DJ Reader, then Sheldon Rankins gets hurt, then BJ Hill
gets hurt. I mean, I like the Washington Commanders to
run all over this Bengals team. Robinson has looked like
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a player reborn this season. I'd put him over one
hundred yards in this game. Forget about fifty.
Speaker 4 (34:55):
Wow, well just go with fifty, then take that. I
learned something by not taking it. I'm gonna take my
medicine here, I said. Brock Bauers touchdown last week. Well
call me some Martindale here, because I'm going to go
doubling down with the strategy. I think he's not only
going to have his first touchdown this week, but he's
also going to have at least four receptions and at.
Speaker 5 (35:12):
Least forty four yards.
Speaker 4 (35:15):
Last week, he became just the third tight end in
the past ten seasons to have over nine receptions and
ninety yards in a game. So it is very conceivable
that in this matchup they're going to say, sorry, we
didn't get you that end zone. Look, here's your red
area of medicine.
Speaker 5 (35:28):
Please take it. It will see you in the end zone.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
It's so funny the tight end coming into the league
and being like, hey, this guy could be one of
the best, and then.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
He's already he might be in a mass I'm putting
bracket number one right now.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
Why not. Speaking of numbers, I've got a number for you.
It's fifty yards again for Jamiir Gibbs. I think Jamier
Gibbs is going to go over fifty yards and Cynthia's
win saying, but I'd be willing to take David Montgomery
going for over fifty as well. I think the Lions
are going to run the ball against the Arizona Cardinals
in the desert. Cynthia's look of concern and consternation can
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be wiped away. The Lions are good. It's just hard
to consistently beat teams that are good, teams that kept
their coaching staff that you just beat in the playoff. Cynthia,
it's difficult.
Speaker 5 (36:10):
I'm with you. I'm just it's just very nervous.
Speaker 3 (36:12):
You ever you ever watched this backfield though, and think,
what what would it look like? We just gave Jamir
gives the ball a little more.
Speaker 5 (36:19):
I mean it seems like so good, but also like
Sam Laporta, like can we milk crate? Like I need him.
Speaker 4 (36:24):
He's on a milk cart, and I need him for
my fantasy team too, Like this is the problem when
you have teams you're actually good.
Speaker 6 (36:29):
It was better too many good players.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
You see to look on a concern on her set face,
Ben Johnson, it's timed under stream.
Speaker 5 (36:35):
Just helping the book here. Please, I'm getting wrinkles.
Speaker 6 (36:36):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (36:37):
We're gonna help you out. Our picture definitely gonna be
better or last week. Thanks for watching game debut for
Zenda Bar Mercedes Bins, for Cynthia and Greg and Patrick.
We'll see you next week.
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Speaker 2 (00:08):
All Right, welcome to Game Debut Present about Mercedes, Vince Patrick, Claibahn.
Estatic to be here with my dear friends, Greg Rosendalt
and Cynthia Freeland. I say dear friends because last week
did not go well for almost anybody. Congratulations to everybody
who won your Survivor pool. Sorry to everybody who's are
It's all over. We're trying to find something different to
do Greg for the rest of the early season.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
Yeah, you know, I don't want to talk about last week.
We're on to Cincinnati proverbially.
Speaker 4 (00:32):
But also some people realistically, if you were the team
that's playing them on Monday night, you know out somebody
is on to Cincinnati.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
In a little We will move on, but first because
we're honest, because we value your input and want to
show you sometimes things don't go as planned. Well say
that other than that, Miss Lincoln, how was the play?
Speaker 5 (00:53):
I don't know I can think about it. Is that
I'm wearing someone else's pants. I don't know I think
about right now?
Speaker 3 (00:58):
Yeah, I got someone else's pants, which pant? Sometimes you
just got to go with the show that you got.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Essentially, what happens is when you get picks wrong, somebody
comes and removes pants from you, and so we're pants.
We're gonna try to earn pants back. All of this,
I get picked up a game. Hey guys, So me
and Cynthia one game behind Greg Rosenthal who still has
the crown. But I will give you a little bit
of advanced notice. We had a lot of similar picks
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last week. Yep, that is not the case. Good Icy,
Let's talk some ball. If you knew coming into the
season the Saints would have one of the hottest offenses
in the league after two weeks, I'd be shocked. One
and two, I'd ask for some advice. New Orleans scored
ninety one points in two games, which is tied for
the second most in NFL history, forty five points a game,
ten points higher than the next team. Right now, So
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the Saints playing host to the Eagles on Sunday, Philly
one Saquon Barkley one field goal in the first half
away from being two to zero. Who has the edge
in this big matchup?
Speaker 6 (01:57):
So I think the Saints do.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
It's a classic case where you're talking about do you
trust the first two weeks of the season or the
data from last last year in the history. I trust
Alvin Kamara, one of the best running backs of his generation.
I believe it is going to be a Hall of
Famer someday. My eyes told me the last couple of
years he still had it, but.
Speaker 6 (02:16):
The team around him didn't have it.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
Now you look at the blocking that is just opening
up huge holes from great cohesion in terms of their
outside zone running scheme, and what if the Eagles struggled
with the last couple of weeks their run defense, They're
just getting pushed around on the edge.
Speaker 6 (02:31):
That's where the Saints win.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
When they get a lead, they just give it to
a k This Dome is going to be rocking. I
trust the first two weeks. This data matters to me.
Twenty twenty three, twenty twenty two is over.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
These are new Saints, Yeah, new Saints, but the old
talented Saints getting involved in a new system. I like
the Saints as well. It's a three point win for me,
New Orleans getting to win twenty three to twenty because
speaking of days of old, I've seen the Eagles pass
rush here in twenty twenty four and it's a rough
situation closing moments of the game. Look at Kirk Cousins,
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Nobody at his feet, nobody around them. This is with
under two minutes to go in the game. The Eagles
have every opportunity to get the Kirk Cousins. I think
of that BG rush against Tom Brady and the Super Bowl.
There was the rush that knocked out Rock Party in
the game from Hassan Reddick. In the NFC Championship game,
no pressure on Kirk Cousins all the way till that
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last throw. I think, considering how improved things are upfront
for New Orleans, Cynthia, I think the Saints score points.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
Well, we're rolling out of the gates here with a
prime number. I have the Philadelphia Eagles by one point
twenty six to twenty five.
Speaker 5 (03:40):
Play that noise, Play that noise. It's so great. I'm
looking at something.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
Interesting about Derek Carr and I love this stat. It's
interesting when you watch it because it's been eighty percent
of plays have either been a run or using play action.
Speaker 5 (03:51):
That's where they've had success. The thing is is we
don't know what happens if they're not playing with the
lead ninety one points you don't need to worry about it,
but they need to worry about it.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
Watching Derek Carr here and I love what I'm seeing.
It's very fun. I like the swagger. It's fun to
watch Alvin Kamara. But I'm looking at the football facts
and saying, the Eagles are going to take this one,
look at the data, and they're going to stop their run.
Speaker 5 (04:12):
That's the choice they're going to make.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
And then what happens when the play action isn't working
as well and the run game isn't working as well?
Are you going to have those past concepts? Is it
going to be the same model? Says one point win
in favor of the Eagles.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Well, I like it. We got different picks, so finally,
finally we enjoy fun. We got more fun in our
next game. A couple of teams they were able to
get it done in the closing moments Monday Night. Yeah again,
Kirk o Chains looked so much better than he did
in Week one, ultimately finding Drake London for that game
winning seven yard touchdown. Well comes next to the defending
Super Bowl champs Sunday Night in Atlanta, also blinking the
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physiological requirement, We will blink but can the dirty birds
keep the champs from rolling on undefeated? Grip?
Speaker 3 (04:52):
No, the Chiefs are going to get to three and
oh twenty four to seventeen. Sometimes you just got to
go with greatness. Of course, maybe the greatest quarterback of
all time, Patrick Blumbs and one of the greatest tight
ends of all time, Travis Kelsey. Let's just look at
all of his pastic plays. Kelsey such a key part
of the Chiefs offense. But wait, are all these plays
from twenty twenty three? Yes, they are, because we haven't
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seen any plays in twenty twenty four.
Speaker 6 (05:15):
What is happening?
Speaker 3 (05:15):
Travis Kelcey had won cats for like four yards last week,
didn't really do anything in week one when I asked
for a highlight package for this season that there is nothing.
At some point Travis Kelcey has to crank up those
old bones and get it going. I think this is
the week to get it done. The linebackers for the
Falcons are not strong Travis Kelcey.
Speaker 6 (05:35):
They hear people talking that he might be a little
past his prime. They're gonna get the all.
Speaker 5 (05:39):
Do you crank up old both? I don't know, anyways,
I do.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
I'm looking at this when I have the same winner,
the same score for the Chiefs, but I have a
little bit closer game. Twenty four to twenty one is
my final score. Remember last week we were like, if
only Kirk Cousins would manage to use play action. Well
he did, he did eight times, and guess what happened?
Not a lot when five of eight fifty two yards
no touchdowns like okay, and then without play action was
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where all of.
Speaker 5 (06:03):
The action happened. So we were wrong. I was wrong.
Craig was wrong.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
I mean, he didn't really move outside the pocket at all.
I still think it's not a great thing when you're
and you're.
Speaker 6 (06:12):
Picking the Chiefs.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
I'm picking the Chiefs, and I'm also telling you that
it's a really good week for Kyle Pitt's touchdown just
because of some tendencies for the Chiefs defense. But I'm
saying on the other end of it, the Chiefs end
up victorious in this matchup.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Kyle Pitts was open for a touchdown last week, and
Kirk threw it to Mike Trout in the back of
the zonne For some reason. I like that score so much, Cynthia,
I'm gonna take it as well. I've gotanked twenty four
twenty one Kansas City Chiefs as well. I understand the
Chiefs were dealing with injuries and there's that spot in
the regular season where they historically have a little bit
of a lull occasionally. But here's the Falcons defense. Yes,
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the Eagles are a good offensive line, but through two weeks,
the Atlanta Falcons defense are number thirty two in pressure
rate in the NFL. I need you to be better
if you're gonna play against Patrick Mahomes and try to
get a win, preferably with four people. Maybe send somebody
else if you want to. But that's dangerous with Mahomes
that it makes it tough for me to pick the I.
Speaker 5 (07:04):
Know something funny, guess who's thirty one?
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Who's that the Chiefs? Oh points for everybody, Kirk Patrick, congratulations,
I gotta have some opportunity. Let's check out some player
props on this one, Patrick Mahomes. Looking at that one
and a half passing touchdowns, seventy two and a half
rushing yards for Jon Robinson, and almost seven catches for
Reshoot right, I.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
Mean forty eight point five receiving yards? Is that for
Kelsey on the season? So far, he's not even there.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Get him, Greg, go? Greg is all about the old boats. Oh,
Travis Kells, get that carbon rator, crank up those old bones.
Let's get to the Ravens and the Cowboys. Dallas shockingly
boat raced by the Saints last week while the Ravens
just playing a shocked by the Raiders. Which team rebounds
on Sunday?
Speaker 4 (07:46):
Since your team does Baltimore winning this one twenty six
to twenty for I like a lot of things about
this game, but specifically Derrick Henry to overcome what will
likely be something that takes a little bit of time.
That's the fact that three of the offensive linemen for
the Ravens are different this season. That's sixty percent. That's
for you right there, Greg. But ultimately, what do you
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do when you have pressure? Old coach bek, you run
right at pressure. Raw so run right at Micah Parsons.
With Derrick Henry, I think they did not bring him
on this team not to use him, so we saw
it kind of get going last week against the Raiders.
I think that continues against a Mike Zimmer defense that
I'm still confused as to what we're going to see
you throughout the season.
Speaker 5 (08:26):
Yeah, we don't Mike ap Parsons as good.
Speaker 6 (08:28):
Though I'm not sure.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
I just don't think Mike Zimmer has the players like
the they're bringing in defensive tackles off the free agency wires.
Some are going to injured reserve Lynn Val Joseph is there.
I got the Ravens winning this game for much of
the same reason I like it when Cynthia and I are.
Speaker 6 (08:42):
On the same page.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
I got him winning by a touchdown, and it's because
of that run defense.
Speaker 5 (08:46):
Fisty.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
You want to know where they are according to Next
Gen stat against inside runs where bed last in the
entire NFL. You know where they are in red zone
defense against the run.
Speaker 6 (08:57):
Dead last, Ben last.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
You know who's pretty good running inside, Derrick Henry and
Lamar Jackson, by the way, and it feels like, you
know who's the best red zone weapon I've ever seen
that quarterback Lamar Jackson, who's great in the red zone,
it's Derrick Henry. Like, I just don't think the matchup works.
I don't think they got the players at linebacker or
defensive tackle for Dallas.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Well, I'm so glad that you guys are confident, because
I was not confident in making this pick, although I
will take the Baltimore Ravens by one point twenty one
to twenty because of what Cynthia mentioned, there's real issues
up front and at some point at oh to two,
the Baltimore Ravens are going to need to figure out
the terrier of that offense a lot of specifically on
the right side. But then I'm thinking about what the
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defense is dealing with. And Dallas, whether through personnel or
also schematically play calling was feels too, have just punted
on running the ball, making running the ball an afterthought,
making things a little tougher on back in the offense.
For those unfamiliar with Next Gen stats and the expected
yards per carry, They've got years of data on where
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players are located on the field. You hand off and
then see where the player has the handoff, and they
give you how many expected yards that you will have
on a particular play. Dallas has negative sixty one yikes.
Speaker 4 (10:11):
Negative sex Negative is bad, okay for a defense, negative
is good.
Speaker 5 (10:14):
For an offense, negative is bad.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
So I've also got next Greg stats and I've been
doing this show a while. We've been watching football a while.
Have you ever seen a John Harbough team go oh
to three. When you see a team as talented as
good as the Ravens, do you think Lamar Jackson's ever
going to be owing three? Sometimes you don't have to
get like too smart about it. They're just not going
to be oh and three. That's not a bad way
to pick games.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
I hope we never see that moment of Greg saying
that again. I would not like to have to revisit that,
considering the options that are available. We're just getting started
here on game debut. Coming up, a battle of undefeated
squaring off in Minneapolis. It's Shroud versus Sam Darnold. Two
potential future Hall of Famers are picks for Texans Vikings.
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Coming right up after this quick break, it's time for
the Drive to Excellence presented by Mercedes Benz. The Charge
and Steelers in Pittsburgh, both teams sitting at two and O.
Justin Herbert dealing with an ankle injury. Who gets to
three and oh?
Speaker 4 (11:10):
Cynthia the Pittsburgh Steelers get to three and oh with
a twenty two to nineteen. When I love a good
twenty two because everyone seems to be so excited about them.
Speaker 5 (11:18):
Why because of TJ. Watt, of course TJ.
Speaker 4 (11:21):
Watt, who's had three pressures and exactly three pressures in
the past two games. When you're watching what come off
the edge, it's just a nightmare for any quarterback in
this situation. And I know Joe Alt's been Grady's four
pressures allowed in fifty one drop backs, which is wonderful,
but let's be fair, what is a different animal. He's
the hardest to defend for even the most seasoned of veterans.
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But lining up across from a rookie, like you know,
they have that like welcome to the NFL moment, that
is this is going to be his welcome to the
NFL moment.
Speaker 5 (11:49):
Hey, rookie, wasn't that the show? Whatever?
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Yeah, this is gonna be fun.
Speaker 5 (11:55):
Thanks are gonna be great.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
So you got a three point win. I've got a
two point win for the Pittsburgh Steelers. It's still a win, though,
And I'm thinking back to the early days of picket
to Pickens and it's like, oh, we're having all this fun,
and there's the literation and now it's like, wait a second,
was that just George Pickens? This is what he does
and justin fields and he are leaking up and making
a lot of plays even if they're not showing up
in the stat but sheet. We've had a couple of
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long DEPI calls. They were going right at Patrick Swutan
a week ago. Since the start of last season, he
leads the entire NFL in yards where the expected completion
percentage was less than fifty percent.
Speaker 6 (12:29):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
I think this is a game where big plays can
swing it, and our trusts the Pittsburgh Steelers can make
those plays. I don't know if the Chargers are gonna
make big plays in this one.
Speaker 6 (12:37):
Great well, they've made big plays in the running game.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
I look at these two teams and only one of
them can run the ball.
Speaker 6 (12:43):
That's the not the San Diego Chargers, the.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
Los Angeles Right, they got two great coaches, but only
one great quarterback in Justin Herbert. As long as he plays,
I like the Chargers to win this game seventeen to fourteen.
Now I go through why the Chargers are better, and
I can hear you all the way from Pittsford, but
the Steelers have the great defense. So to the Chargers,
these are the top two defense in the league right now.
Joey Bosa is having one of those seasons. When you
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watch him this year, you realize, oh yeah, when he's healthy,
one of the very best players in the NFL.
Speaker 6 (13:14):
Khleio Max still getting it done.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
Pass rush from the interior, and in terms of their depth,
it's been fantastic. I like their secondary. So to me,
it's two great defenses. It's two offenses that haven't been
so great through the air, but one team that can
run the ball. That's the Chargers, not the Steelers. Let's
just Greg it up. I just s gregged you a
win Steelers in Week one. Now I'm going against you.
It's a just Greg revenge game.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
Greg, giveth and take it away? How does Greg feel
about your team? Find out next week the.
Speaker 5 (13:43):
Third person talking against me every time.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
We're gonna see if this is a trendy Greg going
back and forth on the Pittsburgh Seels. Another team has
jumped out to a two and zho start, the Vikings
so far, no Kirk Cousins, no problem for Kevin O'Connell's squad. Indeed, Texans,
Vikings both undefeated. It's stroud. It's the Darnald Hove buzzing
in all of our ears. Something's got to give here.
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Cynthia who walks away from this game undefeated.
Speaker 4 (14:08):
The Houston Texans walk away undefeated twenty four to twenty.
I'm looking at my college friend Brian Flores.
Speaker 5 (14:15):
He's just a lot old with me. Just kidding, he's
just a little with me, but he loves the blitz.
Speaker 4 (14:18):
Since he entered being their defensive coordinator, no team has
blitzed more than his. When I'm watching this team and
then I watched c J. Stroud, I would recommend to
him because I know he's watching our show.
Speaker 5 (14:29):
Maybe don't blitz him so much. Because CJ.
Speaker 4 (14:32):
Stroud is very good against the blitz. I understand perhaps
without Joe mixing, things could look a little bit different.
I don't care. This is not an opportunity. His splits
are ridiculous against the blitz, so maybe find another option
in this matchup.
Speaker 5 (14:47):
The trend is not your friend in this case.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Yeah, I've got a four point win by the Houston
Texans as well, twenty three to nineteen. Pressure, of course,
being a key theme in this game. In one place
the CJ. Stroud is able to go when the pressure
amounts is to Nico Collins, who was having a great
start to the season. I'm just a general great start.
Great when CJ is under pressure. He's been targeted five
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times this season. He's caught every single one of those
passes for one hundred and thirty five yards and a touchdown,
including one that he finished emphatically in the end zone
against the Chicago Bears, which was one of my favorite
plays from last week, far and away eclipsing the rest
of the roster in that stat They're both very good.
I think they could score more. I've got the Houston
Texans Greg.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
I struggled with this pick. I went back and forth
all week because I think st J. Stroud's outstanding. My
son Walker is now a Texans fan somehow.
Speaker 5 (15:38):
Wasn't he a Jags fan?
Speaker 6 (15:40):
No, he was never a Jackson.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
But I'm going Vikings in this game twenty seven to
twenty four. Look, I think the Texans are going to
have a better season, have a better team overall. But
I can see it on Monday morning us asking how
are the Vikings three and know how are they doing it?
With their linebacker play and this defense and Brian Flores
that I just think cooked up a very similar offense
in the forty nine ers and Brock Purty and it's
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a challenge that CJ. Stroud and this offense has not
yet seen. And there's just something going on with this
team early. Like I said, I think the Texans have
a better season. But look at the linebacker Blake Cashman
flying all over this field. It's a Blake Cashman revenge game.
He did great for Demiico Ryans last year, and yet
Brian Flores is using him in all sorts of creative
ways as a pass rusher, in coverage, in terms of
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his run defense, this defense, to me, has a chance to.
Speaker 6 (16:28):
Be really special.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
They're really smart, and I just think Texans go about
thirteen and four and this is one of those four
vikings get the win. Let's just scrag it up again
twice in a row.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Not just Cashman. We got Daniel Hunter in a revenge
game as well. Jonathan Grenard a lot of revenge in
the air in this one. So per the early picks
on the show, at the very least, we're not all
gonna have a bad week. At the same time, von
Wiga Football, let's look at some of the highest over
unders coming up in Week three. The Lions and the
Cardinals number at fifty one and a half following up
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on the Eagles and Saints and then Raven's and Cowboys
at forty eight. So let's dive right in to that
matchup at the top Vegas expecting plenty of points. Kyler
and company obliterating the Rams last week, did they keep
it rolling against Cynthia's Lions grit?
Speaker 3 (17:16):
Not exactly, but I think Kyler Murray keeps it rolling.
I have the Lions winning this game thirty three to
thirty one. So that big number we saw fifty one. Ever,
I feel better about that number getting obliterated than I.
Speaker 6 (17:28):
Do either of these teams winning. They're both fantastic.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
Kyler Murray is playing quarterback at a level that maybe
no one else is matching right now in the entire league.
He can make the plays inside a structure, he can
make the plays on the move, and he's certainly making
plays outside of structure. One of the most special just
talents in terms of his running and his passing ability.
We've been waiting for a season like this from Kyler Murray.
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I think it can last throughout the course of the season.
There's been hot stretches before, but I think the foundation
of this offense and what Drew Petsig is doing can last,
and I think they're gonna be one of the top
five offenses in the league.
Speaker 6 (18:03):
But it's not enough to beat your li.
Speaker 4 (18:04):
I mean, this is how you know I pick with
a model and not my heart, because as a Lions fan,
I'd be superstitious and be like, they're not gonna win.
Speaker 5 (18:10):
I don't even care if I lose whatever.
Speaker 4 (18:11):
I have Detroit winning twenty seven to twenty three this week.
And I want to alert you to some people that
maybe you don't know as well, and that is the
linebacker level of the Detroit Lions defense. We know about
Alex Azeloni. He's got some great blonde hair, he's wonderful.
He may or may not be playing. So may I
introduce you to Derek Barnes and to Jack Campbell. Jack
Campbell's the guy who was drafted in the first round,
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and I me Cynthia Freelan was like, Oh, they.
Speaker 5 (18:34):
Over drafted a linemack.
Speaker 4 (18:36):
That's okay, it's working out for them right here. This
is going to be a big deal in this matchup.
You talk about why Kyler Murray is so great and
why this offense could be so great. Well, Number one,
Kyler Murray's always a threat to run the ball. And
number two, they're using thirteen personnel really really trickily, so
three tight end sets. And one of the ways to
counteract that is to have a really good linebacking cord
to say, I see you're thirteen.
Speaker 5 (18:57):
You're not gonna get beat by me.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
I'm looking over at the offense. It's unanimous. I have
a Detroit win twel oh no to twenty six.
Speaker 6 (19:05):
Though thread in the dah.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
Well, I thought about I thought about changing this, but
then I thought about what happened last week. The Detroit
Lions out gaining, doubling up the Tampa Bay Buccaneers in
terms of yardage, but still losing the game. And right
at the end of the first half, the kicking teams
coming out on the field, the offense is trying to
get going. They're trying to get the ball spike Dan Campbell.
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Immediately as soon as the halftime interview comes up, he says,
that's on me. I messed up. I callst our team.
I'm not taking this from a motivational standpoint. The Lions
have had to play two teams that they just beat
in the playoffs this year.
Speaker 5 (19:42):
There's so much familiarity to Cardinals, and.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
There's gonna be so much attention to detail. After Dan
Campbell himself acknowledges his mistake, I think the team picks
up and I think they run the ball pretty well. Again.
Speaker 6 (19:52):
I'd like to see you try to mimusk Cardinals fans.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
Let's go, well, yeah, what it means, somebody switch it.
Speaker 5 (19:58):
I don't want that, like nothing against the.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
Cardinals, but now if it helps, Cynthia, we're not going
to determine the game. Let's get some quick fix here
on game deview. The Packers and Titans in Nashville. Green
Bay taking care of business last week, No, Jordan Love.
Now they got to go and win on the road, Cynthia.
Do they do that?
Speaker 6 (20:18):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (20:18):
They win twenty one to twenty.
Speaker 4 (20:19):
I want to point out something that maybe we've forgotten here,
and that's the Green Bay Packers defense leads the league
in interceptions.
Speaker 5 (20:25):
And we know one thing for certain, and that's that
Will Levis. He's a high stakes poker player.
Speaker 4 (20:30):
He's either going to hit you a home run or
he's striking out. And I think in this case that
doesn't match up well with what we've seen from this
Jeff Halfley defense another area where I was like, I
didn't know what we're going to see.
Speaker 5 (20:39):
Turns out we're going to see a lot of smart.
Speaker 4 (20:41):
Risks and a lot of the ability to take the
ball away being in the right spot. Interceptions can be fickle,
but placement is a good deal.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
Greg Jess work it up, Bi Gregor Dolphin Seahawks in
the Great Northwest. Skyler Thompson's starting for the Fins while
Tua's out. Does he get a dune grin?
Speaker 3 (20:56):
I love the Seahawks in this game twenty seven to seventeen.
Gino Smith is playing outstanding football so far this season,
right there with Kyler as one of the best quarterbacks
in the league. And that's the spite get seeing a
lot of quick pressure in his face. That might happen
on Sunday, but both of these offensive lines have been
giving up a lot of quick pressure. The difference is
Skyler Thompson is starting at quarterback for the Dolphins.
Speaker 6 (21:18):
It's gotten a little lost in this shuffle.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
The Dolphins offense did not look right when tuatungue of
Ilo was out there, and that's only going to get
worse with their backup.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
Yeah, we're all in the Seahawks last one Jacks Bills
on Monday Night. I've got the Bills maintaining their win
streak and this one twenty four to twenty two. Jags
have been in every single game this season. I don't
think it's out of the range of expectations for them
to come up and win this game. But early season,
Josh Allen's were taking care of the ball. The Bills
are in top five and turnover differential. Jacks have made
a ton of mistakes. I can in good faith pick
them to go up to Buffalo and get a win,
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but I'll do I do think it's closer than some
folks might think. As we look at the forty nine
Ers and the Rams. The first touchdown score odds Jordan
Mason leading the way with Kylin Williams right behind him
Brandon aut Because some folks were playing for the forty
nine Ers, Dwan Jennings and DeMarcus Robinson. That game gonna
take place about eighty seven feet behind Cynthia next door
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at so Far Stadium. Sand Friend trying to rebound after
last week's lost to the Vikings while the Rams are
just trying to save their season. Who comes out on top.
Speaker 4 (22:18):
Cynthia Niners come out on top twenty four to fifteen.
I'm just gonna give love to Fred Warner here. Why well,
number one he's playing so we can talk about him,
and number two. I don't know if people understand just
how good he is. So if you're looking at wind
share at his position, he is like a full like
probably one of the bigger. It's hard because it's not
a very big number in general, right, like wind share
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for quarterbacks only five. So like when you're talking about
the difference between a tenth of a wind share point
that is massive even though it doesn't seem.
Speaker 5 (22:45):
Massive, but it is asked by a lot huge.
Speaker 4 (22:48):
Difference between the next closest guy in the run versus pass.
Speaker 5 (22:51):
Like he's a huge difference maker. We just love Fred
Warner here.
Speaker 4 (22:54):
And you know, it stinks that there's so many injuries
in this game, but I love watching Fred Warner.
Speaker 3 (22:59):
Doesn't matter, right for all the injuries that the forty
nine ers have, And it sounds like George Kittle also
probably out of this scheme. They still have great players
like Trent Williams and Brandon Nyuk and Brock Purty, but
how about the role players like Juwan Jennings stepping up.
You talk about season the moment. Who grabbed Juwan Jennings
off the waiver wire this week? It was me and
I think he's gonna have the best month of his career.
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There's a reason why they gave Juwan Jennings a big
contract this offseason. Yes, he does all the dirty work
in the blocking game, but he's a very talented catcher
of the football over the middle where Brock Purty likes
to throw the ball. They have great chemistry from their
three years together, and I think he's gonna have a
big target Shair. Brandon Nyuk is really not quite himself yet.
Juan Jennings, why Jenniver one, Let's go.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
Yeah, it's like every third down Brockberty is gonna throw
the ball to Juwan Jennings. I've got to San Francisco
win as well. Twenty three to twenty. My main hope
with this football game is that everyone's okay after this,
because the total feels a little bit high with everybody
going down with injuries. Greg and I were in the news,
were completing with Sean McVay late in the game against
the Cardinals to just take Matthew Stafford out of the game.
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He was pressured on thirty seven percent of his dropbacks,
sacked five times. Those Niner injuries are on the offense.
Defense remains mostly intact, including Fred I'm gonna take the Niners.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
You'll note, though, Patrick and I both have them covering
this spread here. This is a great rivalry where the
forty nine ers almost always come out on top, and
it's always really competitive, even for some bad Rams teams.
Speaker 6 (24:28):
I think they keep it close.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
So Ramley meme away. We hope the Rams all come
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for to get the full terms. The Bengals just one
play away from upsetting the Chiefs in Arrowhead last weekend.
Forty eight seconds left, fourth and sixteenth, Dejon Anthony gets
called for this pass interfere. It's al Rashia Rice giving
Casey a first down. A few plays later, Harrison Bucker
nailed a fifty one yard game winner. So now because
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of that, since he sits at zero to two, they
play host to Jaydon Daniels and the Commanders on Monday
Night Football. Do Burrow in company finally get the ship
right at here?
Speaker 6 (25:22):
They absolutely do.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
Not only do they win, they put a thirty burger
on the board.
Speaker 6 (25:26):
Is that a thing?
Speaker 3 (25:27):
Thirty three to twenty three? So they get over the
seven points because Joe Burrow is back. It got lost
in the penalty at the end of the game. That hey,
that quarterback of the Bengals we were a little worried
about coming out of week one.
Speaker 6 (25:39):
He looked like the old Joe Burrow in week two.
T Higgins might also return in this game.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
But the most important thing is that Joe Burrow looked
confident in his wrists, was throwing the ball deep.
Speaker 6 (25:49):
Well.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
Again, I think this is one of the worst defenses
in the league. If I had to rank who has
the worst cornerback group right now in the league, it
might be Washington. So that is a huge mismatch against
this wide receiver group and Joe Burrow a lot of
points for the Bengal I have.
Speaker 4 (26:05):
Twenty nine to twenty in this matchup in favor of Cincinnati.
One way to counteract maybe the passing game on your
defense being not as great is to run the football,
especially between the tackles.
Speaker 5 (26:16):
Somewhere. We saw last game Brian Robinson.
Speaker 4 (26:20):
He had one hundred nine yards between the tackles on
ten rushes. Can you do the math, it's ten point
nine per rush. Yeah, you got it.
Speaker 5 (26:26):
There we go.
Speaker 4 (26:27):
But ultimately the point is is between the tackles has
been a source of strength for the run game. So
if there's an area that you would like to target
the Bengals, I sat in these seats and said, I
love that they picked Chris Jenkins to kind of help
the DJ reader whole, But you know what, he hasn't
played yet, so ultimately they're still missing some of that
run stopping defensive power that we're looking for, which means
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Brad Robinson Junior is a full send for your fantasy needs.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
I like this matchup as well. I think Jane Daniels
in the offense are going to score points. The trouble
is that defense, the Washington Commanders that we're talking about
it's a three point win, I've gotta have having a
mc fearson field goal to make it twenty seven, and
then the command to get some points late. Perhaps you
could consider them garbage time points, but ultimately look at.
Speaker 6 (27:09):
Why projecting garbage times?
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Yeah, because look at what the first two weeks have
been like. If you're Malik Neighbors or Mike Evans, you're feasting.
How some of the best games receivers has had this
entire season through two weeks, we've only had two weeks
their number thirty two in passing efficiency defense to make
it worse than the number twenty six team in terms
of pressure rate. For those who are concerned about Jamar
(27:33):
Chase early on in twenty twenty four, I think this
is an opportunity for Jamar Chase and Joe Burrow to
get things figured out. So it's a meme fest for
the Bengals. Let's get into some more picks the Bears
and the Colts. Caleb Williams Smith most of his time
last week running for his life against the Texans Indies
still looking for win number one on the year. Do
they get it? Greg?
Speaker 6 (27:52):
You know what, they're not looking for a running game
they've had it this whole time.
Speaker 3 (27:55):
They're gonna win this game by doing what they've already
done twenty four to twenty.
Speaker 6 (27:58):
The Colts are not going zero and three. They're too
talented for it.
Speaker 3 (28:01):
Jonathan Taylor and Anthony Richardson have and getting it done
on the ground.
Speaker 6 (28:05):
This whole time.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
We expected a great offensive line. It's been great. Jonathan Taylor.
After a Week one where I didn't quite see the
explosion that I wanted, I thought ran very well in
Week two.
Speaker 6 (28:17):
Let's build the whole plane out of this running game.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
I know you don't want to run Anthony Richardson fifteen
times a week every week, but how about this week
against the Bears, who really aren't built to stop the run.
Speaker 6 (28:28):
They're not that effective stopping the run.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
They're fantastic against the pass, and the Colts are a
little erratic that way.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
So this is a game.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
Just run the ball, get this win, get to one
and two, and everyone's happy, at least everyone that picked them.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
Like me, Well, you've got a four point win. I
agree in the standpoint of the Colts winning the game,
but we're taking completely different routes there because I don't
think it's running the ball. I think it's the big play.
The big play from Anthony Richardson helps them score the points.
And on the other side, the Bears have a real
issue in protecting Caleb Williams. It is significant time after
time again against the Houston Texans, he was getting smashed.
(29:03):
The Bear offensive line surrendered twenty three pressures on forty
eight dropbacks and the math has been done for me.
That's forty seven point nine percent. She was doing it
in her head while I said that. Eleven quickly press
lines as well makes it very, very difficult. I've got
the Colts twenty to seventeen.
Speaker 5 (29:20):
So hey, have you guys been reading the injury report? No?
Speaker 4 (29:22):
Okay, Well, I have Chicago winning this game twenty two
to twenty one.
Speaker 5 (29:27):
Why because when you can't stop the run, it all
becomes much more difficult.
Speaker 4 (29:31):
I've seen Forrest Buckner, he's been on okay report and Leatu.
Speaker 6 (29:35):
Latu that's an issue.
Speaker 5 (29:37):
That's also an issue.
Speaker 4 (29:39):
They're also just absolutely let Joe Mixon and Josh Jacob's feast.
DeAndre Swift good pick for fantasy this week. I think
that's going to be a very smart way to get
Caleb Williams out of some of the trouble we've seen,
especially on third down.
Speaker 5 (29:51):
Their down's been an issue. Not gonna lie, I'm not
gonna pretend it hasn't. But in this case, I think
we get it. Maybe it's a DJ.
Speaker 4 (29:59):
Moore first touchdown through the air for Caleb Williams. I
don't feel strongly about it. It is a one point win,
but I do think that I see the path and
I understand. I understand my own maths.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
As it turns out, there is well between the Colts
not stopping anybody on the ground and the Bear's not
getting something going. Something has to give between these two teams.
The Bears actually a third game of the year against
the third AFC South opponent of the year. They'll wrap
that up on October thirteenth when they get the Jags.
Look at some more quick picks here on game debut
(30:31):
quick Fix presented by Zillo. The zero to two Broncos
against the unbeaten Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Baker's been balling. Does
he keep that going? Great?
Speaker 3 (30:38):
He does, because his defense got to keep it going
against bow Nicks. It's tough to watch this Broncos offense
right now. The Bucks win this game twenty three to seventeen,
because bow Knicks has no time to throw. Sean Payn's
asking him at the line of scrimmage to make a
lot of the protections and identify free rushers, and.
Speaker 6 (30:57):
He's not really doing that well with it. He's a rookie.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
Count on your offensive line to do that. Maybe help
him out a little bit, coach, because he doesn't look comfortable.
And when you're not comfortable, the last defensive coordinator, defensive
play caller you want to see is Todd Bowles, who's
just gonna send all sorts of crazy pressures at bow
Nicks and probably cause a.
Speaker 6 (31:15):
Lot of turn on.
Speaker 4 (31:16):
I mean, they've been having creepers at the highest rate.
Speaker 5 (31:18):
They've been doing all these advanced things.
Speaker 4 (31:19):
But also know Mike mcglinchy along the O line for
the Broncos, that is a massive problem.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
I was being generous giving the Broncos seventeen points here,
so I just.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
Wanted to say that, Yeah, Greg is always generous.
Speaker 5 (31:30):
That's what we think about.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
Greg.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
Let's go to our next game, the Giants and Browns
in Cleveland. Hopefully the g Man have found a kicker
that they plan on allowing to kick the football. How
do you see this one playing else.
Speaker 4 (31:40):
To think Cleveland wins this one twenty four to seventeen.
I want to talk about a guy that we haven't
gotten a chance to talk much about this year, and
that's Amari Cooper. This is the Amari Cooper turn it around.
Let's see the end zone. Big game for Amari Cooper.
I love the injury report this week that says that
maybe the tackles are going to play, because that has
been the problem for this Cleveland offense.
Speaker 5 (31:59):
They've just been under a ton of pressure and just
let my guy, Amari Cooper get the ball.
Speaker 4 (32:04):
Well, it's so fun to watch him be good, and
this is a great defense to match him up against
to kind of get back on track again, especially if
the starting tackles are playing.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
Okay, so when we picked these games, we picked the winner,
but we also picked the spread, and actually the Giants
plus six and a half is one of my favorite
picks of the week. I wasn't ready to go the
whole way because it's Daniel Jones versus this defense, but
I've watched this Brown Steam enough that they're just not
good enough to be a six and a half point
favorite against anyone. I feel like they're seven point their offense.
(32:32):
Their offense to me is not trustworthy. It just feels
like a low scoring, ugly game. Every Browns game is
going to.
Speaker 4 (32:38):
Be like, like, do you think Jerome Ford then is
gonna be like hey, He's gonna call me and be like, hey,
that guy, Greg, he's so not generous with me.
Speaker 5 (32:45):
That guy's the least generous person I've ever seen.
Speaker 6 (32:47):
He probably will they'll run the ball with.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
Passing Jerome despite what he says about the offense, Greg
is generous. This is not maybe debatable. Let's go to
our last quick pick, Andy Dalton and the Panthers going
to Vegas to take all the Raiders, and I like
Las Vegas right here to keep things going, get their
two game win streak twenty three to nine. In fact,
we've gone in using technology and got highly edited video
(33:13):
featuring Andy Dalton starting for the Carolina Panthers, just kidding,
it's real, it's last year and he lit it up.
He had two touchdowns, one listening garbage time. He threw
the ball fifty three times. That's gotta be good for
at least nine points.
Speaker 6 (33:27):
Is this being Are you being mean to Andy Dalton?
Speaker 5 (33:30):
Just wait, Andy, Dalton.
Speaker 4 (33:31):
I will say one thing, you could potentially play these
wide receivers in this matchup because they're gonna have to
throw the ball and Andy Dalton's much better again zone
coverage than the guy who got bench right. Bryce Young
had eight interceptions when facing zone. So I you know,
you could potentially look at some wide receivers if you
think they're gonna score more than nine points.
Speaker 5 (33:48):
Yep, you don't, then don't play the receivers.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
I lost a whole bunch of games picking the Carolina
Panthers last year. I'm not making that mistake in twenty
twenty four. Folks, get out your pins and your paper.
When we return, it's time for write this down. We
are dishing out bold predictions week three. Stick around like
ctb's gloves. When we come back, you're watching Game DEVIUT
presented by Mercedes Bits. The time for write this down.
(34:14):
As we get to some predictions for week three, start
us off ground.
Speaker 3 (34:18):
So I'm going with Brian Robinson Junior going over fifty
rushing yards. And if you've been watching this show closely,
you might say, didn't Cynthia just talk about Brian Robinson.
Speaker 6 (34:29):
Yes, kids, One of.
Speaker 3 (34:29):
The smartest things you can do in school, find the
smart person and then like copy them because they're gonna
be right. The Bengals have nothing in the interior. They
were bad defending the run last year. Then they lose
DJ Reader, then Sheldon Rankins gets hurt, then BJ Hill
gets hurt. I mean, I like the Washington Commanders to
run all over this Bengals team. Robinson has looked like
(34:51):
a player reborn this season. I'd put him over one
hundred yards in this game. Forget about fifty.
Speaker 4 (34:55):
Wow, well just go with fifty, then take that. I
learned something by not taking it. I'm gonna take my
medicine here, I said. Brock Bauers touchdown last week. Well
call me some Martindale here, because I'm going to go
doubling down with the strategy. I think he's not only
going to have his first touchdown this week, but he's
also going to have at least four receptions and at.
Speaker 5 (35:12):
Least forty four yards.
Speaker 4 (35:15):
Last week, he became just the third tight end in
the past ten seasons to have over nine receptions and
ninety yards in a game. So it is very conceivable
that in this matchup they're going to say, sorry, we
didn't get you that end zone. Look, here's your red
area of medicine.
Speaker 5 (35:28):
Please take it. It will see you in the end zone.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
It's so funny the tight end coming into the league
and being like, hey, this guy could be one of
the best, and then.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
He's already he might be in a mass I'm putting
bracket number one right now.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
Why not. Speaking of numbers, I've got a number for you.
It's fifty yards again for Jamiir Gibbs. I think Jamier
Gibbs is going to go over fifty yards and Cynthia's
win saying, but I'd be willing to take David Montgomery
going for over fifty as well. I think the Lions
are going to run the ball against the Arizona Cardinals
in the desert. Cynthia's look of concern and consternation can
(36:00):
be wiped away. The Lions are good. It's just hard
to consistently beat teams that are good, teams that kept
their coaching staff that you just beat in the playoff. Cynthia,
it's difficult.
Speaker 5 (36:10):
I'm with you. I'm just it's just very nervous.
Speaker 3 (36:12):
You ever you ever watched this backfield though, and think,
what what would it look like? We just gave Jamir
gives the ball a little more.
Speaker 5 (36:19):
I mean it seems like so good, but also like
Sam Laporta, like can we milk crate? Like I need him.
Speaker 4 (36:24):
He's on a milk cart, and I need him for
my fantasy team too, Like this is the problem when
you have teams you're actually good.
Speaker 6 (36:29):
It was better too many good players.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
You see to look on a concern on her set face,
Ben Johnson, it's timed under stream.
Speaker 5 (36:35):
Just helping the book here. Please, I'm getting wrinkles.
Speaker 6 (36:36):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (36:37):
We're gonna help you out. Our picture definitely gonna be
better or last week. Thanks for watching game debut for
Zenda Bar Mercedes Bins, for Cynthia and Greg and Patrick.
We'll see you next week.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
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