September 27, 2024 • 39 mins
Patrick Claybon, Gregg Rosenthal, and Cythnia Frelund focus on the Buffalo Bills-Baltimore Ravens matchup, and then they make their predictions for the highly anticipated Seahawks-Lions game. Later, they discuss if the Philadelphia Eagles can put together back-to-back wins and then they highlight other week-4 matchups and share predictions.
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
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Speaker 2 (00:12):
Everybody Welcome to Game Debut, presented by Mercedes Ben Patrick
playboun here with dear friends Greg Rosenthal and Cynthia Freeland.
If you watch it so last week and kept track
of all the picture, we're like, hey, this wasn't necessarily
a good week. But let me tell you, Cynthia, it
was a great week.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
Do you know why.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
No, that's because let's check out the pickstandings. The crown
is off of Greg's head and it goes on Cynthia
as the leader at twenty seven and twenty one.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Greg sniped you at the beginning of the show last week.
I want to start with you, Cynthia, how do you feel?
Speaker 4 (00:45):
I would just like to thank everyone who made this possible,
all the teams that won, not any of you teams
that lost. But here's I'm going to say. We've been
doing for six seasons. Now I want a real crown
because for the seasons that we didn't have it, there
was no little tiny digital crown.
Speaker 5 (01:00):
So, oh my gosh, this is preposterous thought preposterous since
oh may the.
Speaker 6 (01:05):
Best I mean, the one thing Patrick, you know could have.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
This looks great.
Speaker 5 (01:08):
This is the first time anyone else has led since
Week thirteen of twenty twenty two, and now the real
crown comes out.
Speaker 6 (01:14):
For years, I.
Speaker 4 (01:16):
Was in little need and we didn't even have that
little tiny digital one that the smacks on your little
like stout, little fit need that little face did you.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Make, Greg, Greg's already the crown has taken hold. He's
already living in the past. Speaking of going back in Tom,
let's go in Doc rounds to Laurion.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Go back to twenty eighteen, the seventh pick in the draft,
the Bills took a gunslinger out of Wyoming named Josh Allen.
Later that same night, Ozzy knew him, and the Ravens
traded back into the first round with the final pick
of Night one to take a kid from Louisville named
Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
The rest is history.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Both of these gentlemen now very very good quarterbacks. As
we fast forward to twenty twenty four, two of the
best in the entire game, the two squaring off Sunday
night in Baltimore, Buffalo is still undefeated.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Will it remain that way?
Speaker 4 (01:59):
Cynthia just barely per my mouth twenty four to twenty
three is my final projected score. But I want to
point out something about that high flute and root and
tootin Son of a Gun from ol Wyoming. That would
be Josh Allen. That's their fight song in case you
hadn't heard it. He's really great at throwing to the slot.
He has a one point oh two EPA when targeting
slot players twenty three twenty six four touchdowns two hundred
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and forty one yards. You know who's really good in
the slot besides Kueiosha Kir who dont k kid. So
that's why when you see these yak the ability to
run after the catch, which is something that Baltimore has
given up, especially to such catches, sixty two percent rate
on those slot catches. That is going to be a
problem for the rape.
Speaker 5 (02:42):
Yes, she's just got a little extra verve now with
that crown on, I don't like it.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Well, it's it's hard, it looks really it's a really
good looking crown. It works out, and I don't think
this game works out for the Baltimore Ravens.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
I know I'm gold.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
Bills by two points.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Yes, And you can say, well, Patrick, the last time
you did this.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
The Ravens gotta win in.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Yeah, maybe we're trying that again, but honest, honestly, I
think it is a loss at home for Baltimore, Tyler
bassfield goal being the difference because my concerns about that
defense weren't exactly alleviated last week watching the Cowboys go
up and down the field in the second half, and
now it's time to deal with Josh Allen who he
can still make plays like this. It's not all safety, Josh.
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He can make runs to the outside. At some point
he's gonna throw a pump fake Ravens defender is gonna
jump with nobody behind him, and Josh Allen is gonna
have a crucial run for a first down. I've just
seen it too many times. I am taking Buffalo to
win this bar too.
Speaker 5 (03:34):
Okay, so this is only the second time on Gating
game debut history that Patrick has gone against his Ravens.
Speaker 6 (03:39):
I love that.
Speaker 5 (03:40):
I'm getting a just greg on the Ravens winning at
home twenty seven to twenty six. So they've thread the
needle and these are two great teams. I have the
Bills winning the super Bowl, but not this week, and
it's partly because of the Ravens defense. The Ravens are
doing that thing again, and you say.
Speaker 6 (03:54):
Well, well, what is that thing?
Speaker 5 (03:56):
It's not just their running game, it's their defense getting
better bit by bit as the season goes along.
Speaker 6 (04:02):
That's good coaching, that's good.
Speaker 5 (04:03):
Developed and that's players like Travis Jones improving each and
every year.
Speaker 6 (04:08):
He's been outstanding this season.
Speaker 5 (04:10):
Nomde Madamweke also playing very well, Kyle van Ney, Michael Pierce.
Every week. I just see this group coalesce. They understand
what they're asked to do. In Zach Orr's defense, the
Bills have not played a defense nearly this good this season.
I think the Ravens need this game more and so, yeah,
I'm thread of the needle. It's a close game, but
the Ravens get the win at home.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
All right, Let's go back into the numbers and do
some maths. Cynthia will Lamar Jackson throw for over two
hundred and three yards on Sunday night?
Speaker 4 (04:37):
Oh yeah, buddy, yes he will. Why because we've seen
a lot of problems with his O line. They're shuffling
the deck. There three new offensive linemen this season. That's
an issue. And you know how you overcome that issue.
You throw quick passes. Quick passes, get guys open in space,
take advantage of the fact that on that Bill's defense
there are a bunch of missing pieces that no one
has really made him pay for yet. So you're going
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to see a lot of spine of the defense targeting
kind of that middle area with quick passes. So yes,
it is only two three, So yes, all.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Right, we're gonna find out a lot about both teams.
The Bills undefeated. Now let's go to another undefeated team,
the Seattle Seahawks. Seahawks with a tough matchup in Motown.
The Seahawks and Lions had an epic game last season.
Gino and golf exploded for seven hundred, almost seven hundred
passing yards between the two. Game went to ot where
Gino found Tyler Lockett for this six yard walk golf touchdown.
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Hawks won it thirty seven to thirty one, setting up
a special game debut matchup. As we get the rematch,
Greg's undying love for Eugene Cervill Smith against Cynthia's Lyons.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
What do you see happening? Greg?
Speaker 5 (05:39):
I gotta go with my man Gino in this one.
I went back and forth. Actually all week. I had
the Lions at first, but Gino Smith is the quarterback
that I'm more afraid because he's so good targeting man coverage.
What team loves to play man coverage on defense more
than almost anyone else, It's the Detroit Lions. What wide
receivers are ready to beat any man coverage you throw
out him, DK Metcalf, Tyler Lockett and Jackson Smith and Jigba.
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Gino Smith is throwing for over a seventy percent completion
percentage into man coverage this season, and this is just
a matchup he owns. People don't know of it as
a rivalry, but Gino Smith owns Dan Campbell. He's won
in two shootouts back to back seasons. Jared Goff, Dan Campbell.
They just can't beat Geno Smith. They're not going to
do it this week either.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
I agree Greg.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
I've got a twenty one to twenty road upset for
Gino and the Seahawks. I've loved the score fests between
these two teams, not just last year, in the past
couple of years as well. I do think this one
is a little bit different. Greg mentioned the matchup between
coach and the player. I'm looking back last year. At
this coach player matchup, it's coach McDonald's Baltimore Ravens defense
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against Jared Golf. The Lions were flumbings. The score was
thirty eight to six. Are they the twenty twenty three Ravens. No,
even the Ravens weren't once you got to the AFC
Championship camp. But they do get Gino the ball with
a chance, and I think that's all he needs.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Seahawks wins Cynthia.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
Because I'm wearing a crown, I'm gonna say this with confidence.
The Lions win. Oh my two points, twenty five to
twenty three. Do I feel confident? I was a wee
lad of just No, I was a weak girl of
just twenty in twenty twelve, just a little tiny girl.
The last time they went, not really at all. It
was graduate college. But don't worry about that. But I'm
looking at the run game, which is completely different. Am
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I worried that Frank Ragnell's not playing?
Speaker 6 (07:21):
Yes, you're darn my pick. It really did well.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
There's a lot of other people that are missing too.
Marks Davenport, yeah, Derek Barnes All and I are Anyways,
long story short, the run game has where all has been,
where all of the success has taken place, and both
of the running backs are still in Therefore, my math
still has it working out in favor of the Lions.
I will say six and oh for the Seahawks against them.
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If I weren't wearing the crown, I wouldn't be quite
as confident about it. But I'm wearing a crown, so
I'm confident.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
Yeah. The tweet from Woodyard, the.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Guy everybody concerned, They're not. Nothing's happening to Frank Ragnow
he did say that they put him down.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
They just meant that there's no Frank ragnow.
Speaker 6 (08:00):
This week.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
Like an old yeller Ray Hard Now it's gonna be
all right, Get well soon. Frank jaed Goff could have
benged last year's lost. But speaking of revenge, let's talk
about the Buccaneers and the Eagles, another big rematch Sunday.
These teams faced off in last year's NFC Wildcard rounds.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
Baker lit up.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
The Philly defense through per over three hundred yards three
touchdowns Tampa Clavern Philly thirty two to nine to advance.
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Speaker 2 (08:34):
The Burds and the Bucks down in Tampa, foughts with
everybody dealing with Hurricane Helen down there on the Gulf Coast,
Philly coming off a huge win in New Orleans, do
they keep it rolling this weekend?
Speaker 5 (08:44):
I think the Eagles get it done twenty four to
twenty because of the running game, it's supposed to be
the foundation.
Speaker 6 (08:51):
Of a Todd Bowles defense.
Speaker 5 (08:52):
Some of the greatest run defenses in NFL history have
been coached by Todd Bowles. You can't run against the
Todd Bowles deven Oh what if you can?
Speaker 6 (09:00):
You can't this year.
Speaker 5 (09:01):
Thirty first, then rushing defensive EFFICI and you got Saquon
Barkley coming to temph.
Speaker 6 (09:07):
This is a different Saquon Barkley.
Speaker 5 (09:08):
People say like, oh see, look, look what he looks
like behind a good offensive line.
Speaker 6 (09:12):
Yeah, that's part of it. But I'm gonna use my
eyes too.
Speaker 5 (09:14):
I think he's just running better, and he's more explosive,
and he's healthier than he's been for a few years.
So Saquon Barkley versus a bad Bucks defense, you don't
even have to worry about Jalen Hurts versus the blitz.
That's the reason Kellen Moore got this job, as they
couldn't handle the bitz. You don't even need to worry
about it when you hand it off to Saquon Barkley.
Speaker 4 (09:31):
I love that, and I also agree. Philadelphia wins twenty
four to twenty two, so a two point win for
the Eagles in this matchup. I'm just looking at what
Dallas Goddard did last week. I'm looking back to see
how he was used in so many different ways. He
really tricked the Saints defense quite a bit. That ready
to see all the game boom. That's it when you're
watching to see how they're kind of changing some of
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the script this season, making adjustments to AJ Brown being out,
what happens with de Bunch, et cetera. They're really leaning
on Dallas Goddard here. And you talk about that blitz situation, Yeah, well,
they don't have a sack when they're flitzing. They're the
only team in the league to say that. And when
they don't blitz just two secs, so this is not
a big pressure situation.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
Yeah, Tampa Bay missing two of their best players.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
Still, I've got the Philadelphia Eagles twenty three to twenty
all Birds. As we look at Vic Fangio's defense really
stepping up in the Superdome last weekend against an offense
that was playing to an historical extent just stopping the run.
Jalen Carter had a spectacular game, and now Cody Mauch
has given up fourteen pressures.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
He's going to be lined up primarily against Jalen Carter. Baker,
good luck.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
I think the Philly defense is ready and the Birds
get the win, and so Bucks fans, you have your
meme opportunity meme away.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
Really, what a glorious sound.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
It's time for the Drive to Excellence presented by Mercedes Bins.
The undefeated Kansas City Chiefs taking on the Chargers at
SOFI Stadium. Patrick Mahomes one hundredth career start. Does Casey
remain unbeaten after this one.
Speaker 4 (11:01):
Cynthia, Yes they do. Twenty six to seventeen is my
final score. No, I'm never taking the crown off, but
I am going to say that Travis Kelcey is going
to have a rebound game. Here's why I do understand
that thirty five yards a game is not what the
rest of us or fantasy players, or probably even Taylor
Swift was anticipating this time through the season. However, when
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you're looking at how good the Chargers have been at
defending yards after the catch on routes that are run
by Rashid Rice, they're going to devote extra attention to him,
which what leaves Travis Kelce open. Do you know who
basically owns the Chargers, trav Ravis Kelce. So that's why
I think this is the week the touchdown happens.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
Okay, yeah, a lot of people will be happy to
see that.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
I also have Kansas City in this game twenty three
to fourteen, because honestly, the Chargers.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
Are very, very hurt. Derwin James is.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Going to be out for this game as well as
Joey Bosa leaving the game last week. Justin Herbert could
be hobbling around, or it could be Taylor Heineke. I'm
taking the Kansas City Chiefs because of that. I do
want to sew some video of Patrick Mahone. I'm throwing
crossers because sometimes we just see something over and over
again and we gotta take it for granted. You just
have to defend every bit of blade, every single blade
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of grass.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
When Patrick Mahomes is playing football.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
And sometimes there's just a guy dragging across and he's
gonna make a god miss in the in the pocket,
he's gonna throw the cross.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
They're gonna get thirty yards and none you can do
about it.
Speaker 5 (12:22):
You know what, you know what else they take for granted,
well's that that the Chiefs speeding the Chargers every time
they play him. I mean, I've picked the Chargers so
many times in this matchup. It never happens. They even
in the best of times, it doesn't happen. It's not
happening this week. They're not gonna score double digits. It's
twenty to nine Chiefs in this game. Look, defenses are
asking Patrick Mahomes, can you just please hand the ball off?
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And he says, okay, we've got Carson Steele. Who's Carson Steel? Like,
didn't he run a four seven seven forty? Like, isn't
that the name of like an adult entertainer. He's like,
I don't care. I'm gonna get it done. I'm gonna
get my four yards. I'm gonna get exactly what's blocked.
You know, who's the number one running back in the
NFL right now, Cynthia and Patrick in success right number one.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
It's not Carsons anyway.
Speaker 5 (13:08):
Carsons even though he has no big plays, but if
you need four on first and ten, he'll get you four.
Speaker 6 (13:14):
That's all they need.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
Huh. I will just move on as we're speaking of
the Chiefs.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
So they played abroad last season the NFL going back
to Europe next week. We got Sunday Morning Football Live
from London at nine thirty am Eastern, exclusively on NFL Network.
Aaron Rodgers and the Jets take on Justin Jefferson and
the Vikings at Tottenham Hot Square Stadium in London. Rise,
shine and watch Jets against the Vikings on NFL Network
and streaming on NFL Plus. Subscription required for NFL Plus. Now,
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before the Vikings go across the Pond and we get
the the Sam Donald revenge game, we're going to Lambeau
to take on the Packers.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
Are the Vikings? What do you see happening? Grig?
Speaker 5 (13:55):
I think the Packers win this game because Brian Flores's
defense right now has shown like you got to have
a dude back there at quarterback to possibly beat him
and the Packers do. His name is George and Love
he's practicing this week. It sounds positive for him playing.
And when you look at the matchup that they had
with Brian Flores in this Vikings defense a year ago,
a lot of drop back passing, a lot of deep shots.
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You want to send all those blitzers. We're gonna win
our matchups and we're gonna hit you with some big plays.
I think the Packers' offensive coaching staff can get ready
for this matchup in a way that the other teams
the Vikings have played could not. Look if it's Malik Willis,
I think they have a chance because the Packers running
game is so good this year number one in the NFL.
That they can hit you with the pass, they can
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hit you with the run. But Jordan Love's return is
really the key factor and why I'm taking them. I'm
torn here because I kind of want NFL network to
have an undefeated Vikings team going to London.
Speaker 6 (14:47):
But either way, that's a great game.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
I also agree that the Grand Bay Packers will win,
but we see a completely different game because I don't
think Jordan Love is going to play in this game.
I think it's gonna be Malik Willison. Perhaps all the
love talk that we've heard has been a bit of
a smoke screen coming out of Wisconsin, but Gran's right
the Packers Battleafloor has been calling incredible plays during this
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Malik Willis run, including the screen game, and I know
Brian Floor is this propensity to bring the house send
even though the Vikings were getting pressure with just four.
There's gonna be some play in this game, which I
think is a very low scoring game. I've got it
seventeen to sixteen where the Vikings send the blitz and
whether it's Jade Reid, whether it's Romeo Dobs, there's some
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sort of screen the rookie Wilson gets involved. Big play
winds up being the difference of the game commissioner Goodell.
Speaker 4 (15:36):
I'm actually the only one that cares about working here
because I do want the Minnesota Vikings, and my model
did pick them, so clearly I am the most company
of company people to my model picked.
Speaker 6 (15:45):
It is a prime other prime number.
Speaker 4 (15:47):
Twenty three to twenty two. Minnesota wins this one. I
want you to take note of three specific things that
happened last game, and that is the three sacks that
the Minnesota Vikings had when only rushing for aka not
blitzing three other five me out. You said that they
need a stud back there at quarter. What do you
think CJ. Stroud's not a stud. Come on now, man,
(16:07):
I don't know what you're smoking, but ultimately you're still
thinking about that last thing with your guy Chad Steel.
Speaker 6 (16:13):
Carson Steel.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
Chad Steel is.
Speaker 4 (16:15):
The anyways, long story short is Brian Flores showed that
interesting balance thing where he kind of adapted to the
situation by not blitzing. It was fifty to fifty. They
had the most pressures of the week with twenty three.
Thirteen came with the blitz, ten came without. Three of
the five sacks came without the blitz. So they did
that thing that like really is all about life, right,
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It's balancing what I do best versus what my opponent
does worst and figuring out. So you're welcome, Commissioner Goodell.
I yeah, you can send to me an extra you know. Bonus?
Speaker 3 (16:48):
Yeah? Why not? One?
Speaker 2 (16:49):
Bonus is having the best at his position. Justin Jefferson
on the Vikings. He's got three touchdowns in three games.
Does he get four for four Cynthia, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (16:59):
I mean it's kind of as simple as that.
Speaker 5 (17:01):
Diya Alexander though, having kind of a comeback season, Let's go.
Speaker 6 (17:04):
Buddy a minute.
Speaker 4 (17:05):
Let's talk about how this team is super roller coastery. Right.
They have the most interceptions with seven, but they also
allowed the most yards after the catch overexpected boop boop boop.
Which one wins? Justin Jefferson And that's all.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
We're gonna watch the games when we come back. Greg's
favorite rivalry, Derek Caring.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
The Saints going to Atlanta to take on Fast Chains.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
And the Falcons.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
Who walks away victorious and whose fans are going to
be itchy?
Speaker 3 (17:26):
On Twitter dot com we found out.
Speaker 6 (17:28):
Next how these fans eighty fires.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
We're back on Game Deview.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
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the Saints and the Falcons in Atlanta this week, Cousins
and the Dirty Birds nearly upset the Chiefs. There was
a fourth down stop by KC. Last week, the Saints
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fell to the Eagles, who turns it around Sunday Cynthia.
Speaker 4 (17:57):
The Saints turn it around. I have a final score
of twenty three to twenty two, so just a one
point victory. I want to point out something that the
Eagles defense showed us, and that is how to stop
the run of the Saints. I know, I just said
the Saints are gonna don't worry, it'll all come back
full circle out.
Speaker 6 (18:11):
Okay, don't worried, Greg, But.
Speaker 4 (18:12):
Ultimately here, the outside zone run was an area that
they were just crushing in the first two weeks of
the season almost six yards per rush and that went
down to like three. So what do they do? They
really just figured out a way to nullify it. And
which what did that lead to? That led to Derek
carving under the most pressure he's been under it this season,
most pressure in a while like his career, and then
that was a problem. The problem for the Falcons in
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this matchup is they don't have the personnel to execute
that same sort of strategy. So even though the Eagles
gave us the formula, executing it is again not as
easy as it is to talk about executing it. So
I mean, we could do it here on this stage obviously,
you know, if we played football but whatever.
Speaker 5 (18:51):
It's that crown. That crown is like never coming off.
Just a lot of differ it's hurt bolted on. I
love that we agree in this game for the same reason.
Speaker 6 (18:58):
You're right.
Speaker 5 (18:58):
I don't think Atlanta's got the personnel. I think the
Saints get it done twenty seven to twenty three. When
you watch thet in week three, just something was missing?
What was missing? Yeah, they're center Eric McCoy, he's not
coming back. But Taysom Hill is. It's a fullback game
debut this week. We got Carson s know, we got
Taysom Hill.
Speaker 6 (19:16):
I really mean it. Taysom Hill.
Speaker 5 (19:18):
First of all, he's the second best running back on
this team. He's a really talented runner. He'll get the
ball in short yardage and break some tackles. But more importantly,
as a fullback. Clint Kubiak really uses him, not just
as a sixth offensive lineman, but to manipulate the defense.
Speaker 6 (19:35):
Who got spot shadows?
Speaker 5 (19:36):
We got him blocking and what they do before the
stap after the stap.
Speaker 6 (19:40):
He is so crucial.
Speaker 5 (19:41):
He is returning for this game, and I don't think
the Falcons have the linebackers to stop this running attack.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
Yeah, it's unanimous.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
I've got the New Orleans Saints as well, one point
win twenty two to twenty one. Like Cynthia does, it
is based on the Saints defense, uh making some plays
as well. Because I'm looking over at Tyer Matthew for
the past few weeks, back to back games with an interception,
the Honey Badger taking what he wants again.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
He's getting hits out on the edge.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
And Greg called it earlier in the years, like, I
feel like this is going to be a Tyron Matthew
type season where we look up and he's back in.
Speaker 6 (20:13):
The Pro Bowl.
Speaker 4 (20:14):
Did you have like another defensive back on that team
having three and a half sacks this point in the season,
Because that, my friend, would be crazy.
Speaker 5 (20:21):
No, I want to have a Monte Taylor going that crazy.
But shout out to Honey Badger. He followed me on
Twitter this week, welcome aboard. It's going to be a
great ride for you.
Speaker 3 (20:29):
Yeah, just just wait, Tyron.
Speaker 6 (20:32):
Greg.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
Greg will open up a little bit as the season
goes on. Right now, he's very the crown.
Speaker 4 (20:37):
Yeah post my crown, so he sees it.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
It's a tough spot.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
Let's do some math, Cynthia will Kirk Cousins passed for
over two hundred and thirteen yards in this game against
Greg's newest Twitter follow up, I.
Speaker 4 (20:49):
Hope he sees my crow. I have him passing for
nearly two hundred and forty yards. So it is a
very strong yes for me. Why because he's going to
have to I have this game falling in a game
script where the Saints have nice control with their run game,
which means the Falcons are going to have to take
the shots downfield, which means there's a guy in Drakelen
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who's getting the zone. But other than that, they're going
to be at least two hundred and thirteen yards easy psy.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
All right, so we got a couple overs in the
quarterbacks throwing for what seems like a very love number.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
This week's son for quick picks. As we get to
the Browns and the Raiders.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
In Vegas, we're assuming somebody will score in this football game,
both teams coming off of losses.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
Who gets to win here? Great?
Speaker 5 (21:31):
This was a tough game to pick. I took the
Browns winning sixteen to thirteen. It's just a depressing game.
Miles Garrett's not one hundred percent. Max Crosby's not one
hundred percent. But Miles Garrett at less than one hundred
percent is better than your guy at one hundred percent.
He was carrying Andrew Thomas, the great tackle of the
Giants last week, and pressuring the heck out of the
opposing quarterback Daniel Jones despite not being one hundred percent.
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He's a warrior, and I think he's got more help
around him in terms of his defense. So Browns, you
gotta bench Deshaun Watson. It's past time. But I think
you get the win because of your defense.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
Yeah, something is the only person has a team score
more than twenty points in that.
Speaker 4 (22:06):
Game, the barnburner of mine, the Patriots and the forty
nine ers.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
Any chance, Cynthia, the Kyle Shanahan's team loses three straight.
Speaker 4 (22:14):
There's always a chance, but this is not a strong
chance in my model. In fact, this is number one
in terms of confidence. San Francisco wins twenty six to fifteen.
Can we just talk about Dwan Jennings. Yeah, well, he
just was absolutely incredible. Yet again, this guy has a
ram target on his back. It doesn't matter rams games
he comes to play. It's where all of his touchdowns are.
(22:34):
I really have you know, The crux of this is
the fact that unfortunately, you know, the forty nine ers
are very good at stopping the run Fred Warner, et cetera.
But ultimately, here, San Francisco, let me get.
Speaker 6 (22:45):
This cat right here.
Speaker 4 (22:45):
Let's bob me that. Yeah, Jwan Jennings, he'll he'll do
his fantasy damage early in the game and then they
can run for the end of the game.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
All right, Let's go to the Jags and the Texans
in Houston. Houston humbled last week against the Minnesota Vikings,
but I think they bounce back here finals score twenty
two to nineteen, only three points different. It was really
just a bad matchup as well as a game plan
for the Jags defense. On Monday night, they just ran
into a buzzsaw in Buffalo. I don't think they're that bad.
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And now they get back in a situation where there's
that divisional familiarity, so I think that lowers the total
as well.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
But I do think CJ.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
Stroud of the Texans bounce back to win it, as
we all do.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
Meet this away Jacks fans, if you.
Speaker 5 (23:23):
Mean, well, what if the Jaguars are that bad, because
they really haven't played a complete game against anyone yet
this year. There haven't There hasn't been a game this
year where you watch the Jaguars and you said, yeah,
that's a good team. So I think the Texans in
a game they really need to win, get their mojo
backed offensively.
Speaker 6 (23:41):
I think they can roll big.
Speaker 4 (23:42):
Okay, So if you're a Jags fan, you can say, sure,
the Texans have beating us, you know, out of the
last twelve games ten times, but the two were both
in Houston.
Speaker 6 (23:49):
Okay, So there we go.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
There it is, history is on your side.
Speaker 4 (23:53):
Kind of non predictive, but you know, fun to say.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
Parenthetically.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
The Commanders and the Cardinals first touchdown score odds, James
Connor Lean the way, Brian Robinson Junior, despite all the
action for Terry on Monday Night, I know, not featured here,
still happy for him. Finally got a quarterback in our
nations capital. Let's dive into this game Jayden versus Kyler
Daniel's putting the league on notice Monday night in Cincinnati.
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But I like the Cardinals in this one. Twenty eight
to twenty six into what for me is actually the
Kyler Murray revenge game against Cliff Kingsbury. As the offense
rounds into shape. It's kind of been sporadic. He hit
all of his deep shots against the Rams, didn't throw
a lot of deep shots against the Buffalo Bills, threw
a few too many against the Lions. I am not
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sure if there is such a thing as too many
deep shots against this Washington Commander secondary. Jayden and company
might have to score every time again, Cynthia.
Speaker 4 (24:48):
I mean, it seems like that would be the only recipe.
I don't have that happening, though. I only have a
two point win for Arizona twenty five to twenty three.
You talk about the Cliff Kingsbury revenge. What Cliff Kingsbury
does exceptionally well is figure out how to overcome not
so great O lines, right, and that is what we've
seen with Jayden Daniels. Look at him, he's just cooking
up some new players, right, Let's find the right play
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here for my guy, Jad and Daniels a crazy dual threat.
The deep ball is something we're like, is this going
to be something that happens all the time. I mean,
look at him on a space that they're coming up
with on the runs. Look at him on a space
and do you think that Cliff Kingsbury had anything to
do with that dance, probably unconfirmed there, But ultimately I'm
watching what Jaden Daniels is doing and they don't turn
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the ball over and that is really really key. So
keeping that up against this defense will be good, which
is why I predict a closer game.
Speaker 6 (25:39):
Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 5 (25:40):
I am with you on everything you said about Jade
and Daniels. I love both quarterbacks in this game. I
do not love the defenses in this game, especially the
Commander's defense. Like, you can name a stat about this
Commander's defense and it's bad. Actually, pick one, pick a
defensive stack.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
Magic yars per too.
Speaker 5 (25:56):
They're bad at it, Cynthia, pick a defensive stat anything.
Speaker 4 (26:00):
How about touchdowns allowed in the past game.
Speaker 5 (26:03):
They're bad at its, bad at it pressure, bad at it.
They are the worst defense in the league by almost
any metric, and they still have a winning record because
they're playing.
Speaker 6 (26:12):
So well offensively.
Speaker 5 (26:13):
So yes, I'm showing you all the times opposing offense
has burned them because I think Kyler Murray and this
Cardinals offense is ready to put a forty burger.
Speaker 6 (26:22):
On him forty one to thirty seven.
Speaker 5 (26:24):
Not a lot of stops in this game either, but
the Cardinals get more points.
Speaker 4 (26:27):
I'm with you on that, So I have a touchdown
for Marvin Harrison Junior. Duh, what about Michael Wilson. Don't
forget about him for a fantas like him. The man
had nine targets last game. He caught eight of them.
You know how eleven targets Marvin Harrison Junior, that's number two.
And if there's any injury to the tight end, Michael Wilson,
He's a really great fantasy player. You could seize the
day with him and wear your own crowns.
Speaker 5 (26:47):
I mostly think of him as Sophia Smith's significant others.
Speaker 6 (26:50):
Soccer great, absolutely and fun.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
Just so many opportunities to watch our great offensive players.
Maybe not the best defensive circumstance that we like points.
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Speaker 3 (27:21):
In order to get the full terms, let's.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
Look over at the Steelers and the Colts. Notable player
props going into this one. Anthony Richardson looking at one
hundred and eighty one and a half passing yards.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
Right around that same number for Justin.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
Fields Jonathan Taylor at seventy three, Michael Pittman Junior at
four and a half.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
He's really been scratching to get to that.
Speaker 5 (27:43):
I mean, look at these sassing yards. This is like
Terry Bradshaw against Johnny United. Is not a matchup that
could actually happen, but it does represent the teams involved.
Speaker 6 (27:51):
You get what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
Yeah, absolutely fit with this matchup not necessarily cross era
of football matchoups is Fields versus Richardson this time around
it should be fun. The Steelers undefeated? Will they remain
undefare after this week?
Speaker 4 (28:05):
My math says yes, I have twenty one to twenty
in this matchup. Can we give a little love to
Justin Fields please? There's a really great next Sheen stat.
It's called completion percentage over expected, so the overexpected part.
Just say, what would an average in this down distant situation?
Score time all of those things be and how much
better are you doing? Plus eight point eight? Baby, that's
up from last season. He was sixty ranked sixteenths in
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this metric. Now he's up in the top five. Let's
give him a little bit of love, especially because it's
not like this Steelers O line is like really really
great like the Colts. It's like twenty twenty one in
terms of ranking, not a great one. So what he's
doing is even better when you add in that context.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
Yeah, I think Justin Fields is playing really good football
and he's getting better every single week, which is huge
for me. I'm the Steelers scoring twenty six points in
a win and if you feel like that's a lot
of points for a team that hadn't scored a lot
of touchdowns. Have you seen the twenty twenty four Indianapolis
Colts run defense.
Speaker 3 (28:58):
I have.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
I've watched it every single week, and this is the
type of things that we have seen. Joe mix it
in week one, one hundred and fifty eight yards on
the ground, and then they go up against a Packers
statan that's running.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
The ball very well as well. Now we got Arthur Smith.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
Arthur Smith is really looking forward to this opportunity to
run the football game. I think Najie Harris is gonna
have a solid game. I think this could be a
good cor Daryl game too as well.
Speaker 6 (29:28):
Greg, I'm not so sure about that. Patrick.
Speaker 5 (29:31):
I think the Colts are going to win this game.
I'm gonna just screg it up. The reason why I
got back to back titles is I trusted my gut,
and even if the logic is saying Steelers, the gut
is saying this Colts running game is ready to go off. Yes,
Anthony Richardson is scattershot these days. You don't need to
worry about the past when you're playing nineteen seventies football.
Like I talked about what won the games back.
Speaker 6 (29:52):
Then, it was running the ball. This should be the
best running attack in the league. Let's just lean.
Speaker 5 (29:56):
Fully in on everything Anthony Richardson can do running the ball,
and then all the options that he has handing it
off to Jonathan Taylor. Jonathan Taylor's got that jute back.
This offensive line is running very well, I mean run
blocking very well, and I do think I know the
Steelers defense has been good against the run so far,
but I do think that is the way you're going
to beat them is not by dropping back to pass.
Speaker 4 (30:18):
Wait you say they've been good against the run, now
they'd been great? What happened with JK Dobbins? Ask we
just question?
Speaker 6 (30:23):
Okay?
Speaker 5 (30:24):
I love JK. Dobbins NFL Daily Guest. He's no Jonathan Taylor.
Look at Jonathan Taylor here in the moves that he's
making maybe the best.
Speaker 6 (30:31):
Running back just pure running back in the league. He's
right there at the top with him.
Speaker 4 (30:34):
I love Jonathan Taylor too, and I think this is
a very good O line. But give the Steelers their
come up and they are undefeated because of their defense,
I mean.
Speaker 6 (30:42):
What are they going to do? Go seventeen and no?
Speaker 5 (30:44):
I just feel like this is a spot the Cults
are like a two and two type of team.
Speaker 6 (30:47):
They're gonna get their win.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
All right, Well, we've got a chance to look at
just how consistent just been.
Speaker 5 (30:54):
Just Okay, I'm glad you're showing this graphic because if
even if I'm not winning all the just screggs, at
least I'm going for I'm having some guts this year.
Speaker 6 (31:02):
Join me, you know me? Cynthia and Patrick like, go
out of the limb.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
Everyone, Sincey's got multiple proble numbers this the more that
graphic will be up there, we'll get a chance to
look at it next week.
Speaker 3 (31:13):
Still to come. No Pooka, no Cup, no problem.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
The Stafford and the Rams may have saved their season
last week with the improbable win against the forty nine ers.
Will they keep things rolling Sunday in Chicago? Our picks
for Rams Bears coming up next on game day?
Speaker 3 (31:28):
Oh yeah, indeed, coach McVay.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
The Rams coming off that huge win against the forty
nine ers, Now they didn't playing go to Chicago to
take on Caleb and the Bears.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
How do you see it going good?
Speaker 5 (31:37):
I had to take the Rams. I struggled with this pickny.
I just didn't know who to pick. But ultimately, when
I really struggle, I go to quarterbacks. I go to organizations.
I go to coaching staffs. What is this Bears coaching
staff won nothing? What is Caleb Williams won at the
pro level?
Speaker 6 (31:53):
Nothing? He's a rookie. What has Matthew Stafford won a
Super Bowl?
Speaker 5 (31:57):
I saw him play last week like I saw him
play at the end of last season, which was like
a top five quarterback in the league. Sometimes you just
need the quarterback and the play caller. They're getting open
like it wasn't just that DeMarcus Robinson and two two
at Well and Jordan winning ten are making like crazy plays.
Speaker 6 (32:15):
They're getting open.
Speaker 5 (32:16):
And I know this is a tougher matchup, but again,
two teams that I really don't know what to make
of early in the season. I'm gonna go with the
top five quarterback.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
And I'm so glad that Matthew Stafford and the Rams
won that Super Bowl across the street because it allows
people to appreciate what he can do on the football
field and not like make binary decisions about whether a
players good based on one game in February.
Speaker 3 (32:36):
But I do like the Rams in this game. I'm
gonna get off my soapbox because the Bears can't protect
Kayleb Williams. They just can't. They can't run the ball either.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
It's like they if they try, it seems like they're
doing it against their will. But Jared Vers, the rookie,
has been spectacular. Collapsing pockets left them right. Played very
well against San Francisco last week. Six pressures, two knockdowns,
and a sack. Thus far this season, those numbers go
up this week, I think in a Rams wins see.
Speaker 6 (33:02):
I see where this is going here.
Speaker 5 (33:03):
This is how we're getting into trouble and that she's
getting her crown on her head. Patrick and I give
Cynthia like a home favorite, decent sized home favor.
Speaker 6 (33:12):
The Jets were a prime number. Just go go with it.
Speaker 4 (33:18):
Three nineteen Chicago Bears. Of course you don't like it,
because why would you like anything that keeps me in
this lovely crown in the rookie Kyle Williams who dealt
last week, not only did he get his first passing touchdown,
he also got his second one. Now I don't necessarily
think this Olne is great. I'm with you. I'm really
happy to see Jared Versus and Braden Fisk. That was
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awesome for the Rams. But this is not the matchup
between Sean McVay and Kyle Shanahan's. They have something against
each other where they just like they go into their lab,
they make the prime number noise, and then they like this,
I'm gonna come up with some crazy stuff to come
after you. This is something where the Bears defense will
give them a little bit of an edge. The O
line for the Rams has been super banged up and
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as good as Matthew Stafford is, as good as Karen
Williams is, it's just not enough, especially when you're starting
to see kayleab Williams get his footing in the league.
At the he saw Cole Kmett just score touch up. Yeah,
book that for this.
Speaker 6 (34:13):
Week as well too.
Speaker 4 (34:15):
They're getting yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 5 (34:16):
It's like all very logical, But what happened to romance, Cynthia?
Speaker 4 (34:20):
You know, I got a face swearing. I love a
good swear and I love when coaches swear at the
part whoosh, I almost swear, but I didn't.
Speaker 3 (34:27):
Yeah, swearing is plus three. Let's get to quick picks here.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
On game debut, it's the Andy Me because Andy Dalton
has a few revenge game opportunities.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
The main one, the Indy Dalton.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
Revenge Store starts against the winless Bengals.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
Does he do it two weeks in a row?
Speaker 5 (34:41):
Grin, he doesn't. He does it well, but he doesn't win.
So I like offense in this game. I like the
Bengals thirty to twenty four. So the Bengals they cover
the number you go over the over under. It's a
lot of points because Andy Dalton can get it done.
I wanted to show you some Andy Dalton Bengals highlights
to AJ Greens. AJ Greens, I believe could be going
into the Hall of Fame one day because he caught
so many nice passes from Andy Dalton. I know they're
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happy with Joe Burrow, but Andy Dalton is better than
a lot of franchises have had at quarterback. He is
the all time franchise leader in touchdowns. To just give
some Andy Dalton respect. Played fantastic last week. This is
gonna be a fun game.
Speaker 4 (35:16):
Maybe if you at a Crown, they would have found
some Hawk video for you because Andrew Hawkins.
Speaker 5 (35:21):
Yeah, he got a lot of nice passes from Andy
on two exactly.
Speaker 4 (35:24):
But if maybe, if you had the crowd, maybe you
would have made it because we love Hawk on this show.
Speaker 3 (35:30):
Yeah, the Crown clout gets you better video.
Speaker 2 (35:32):
Shout out to Hank Monday Night Titans and Dolphins Cynthia.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
Both teams need a win. Which one is going to
get one?
Speaker 4 (35:37):
Yeah, Tennessee I have a one point win in this matchup.
Tennessee has a profile that's like a big league slugger.
Either they're hitting a home run or they are striking
out and this week. It kind of profiles to be
more of that home run. But I do want to
point out on the other side of this matchup, even
though there's so many injuries, we love us some Devon
h Chan in this room. You're still gonna want to
play him for fantasy. I understand there's questions about who's
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starting at quarterback, what's going on there, but you know
who you don't need to worry about running back. A
Chan will get you the points you need before contact,
after contact, in the pass catching game. He is there.
Do it all, guys, So much love to him. This
is something to watch out.
Speaker 6 (36:15):
Not much left to the Dolphins, though.
Speaker 5 (36:16):
It is flat out disrespect when you get memed alert
against a winless team.
Speaker 6 (36:20):
Come after us Dolphins fans.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
Let's go thatthing nice about They're just they're having a
tough time. I hope that you do meme away, guys,
So go to the Broncos and the Jets. Then Nathaniel
Hackett revenge game. I will take the Jets here twenty
three to nineteen because Aaron Rodgers said, keep my name,
my coach's name out of your mouth, and they're gonna
come out and they're gonna try it really hard. No,
that's not the reasoning. My reasoning is just how fast
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Aaron Rodgers is getting the ball out.
Speaker 3 (36:45):
He was getting rid of the ball.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
Super fast against the Patriots. In terms of the season,
he's top three two point five one seconds. Actually, Jade
Daniels is really good in that stat as well. I
was surprising for the rookie, but Aaron Rodgers delivering the
ball this season.
Speaker 5 (37:00):
Yeah, I think last week bo Nicks was a little
bit of fool's goal.
Speaker 6 (37:03):
The Jets can get more pressure.
Speaker 5 (37:05):
So Cynthia and I see this game a little differently
than Patrick. We have the Jets going over the number,
a comfortable win.
Speaker 6 (37:12):
I think this Jets team has a lot to do.
Speaker 4 (37:14):
I love good emotional win when it comes to like
keep my coach's name out of your mouth, like what
I love that. Don't get me wrong, keep it coming.
I want to hear it. Bulletin board material or whatever
they call it. Let's hear it.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
Yeah, let's get spicy, solid icy after the game, feeling great.
Speaker 3 (37:29):
Because it means more in New York City.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
Let's get some bold predictions for week four and write
this group down.
Speaker 3 (37:35):
What are the people scribbling?
Speaker 6 (37:36):
Okay, you want to go really bold.
Speaker 5 (37:38):
I'm going Commanders Cardinals over seventy points. Okay, now you
only need to go over fifty for it actually to
get over the total. But my total is over seventy
forty one to thirty seven. It's gonna be like Kurt
Warner and Aaron Rodgers in the playoffs. Everyone's talking about, Oh,
it's boring, you know, the way it's all run game
in the NFL.
Speaker 6 (37:58):
Points are down. We got the solution for you.
Speaker 5 (38:01):
Two defenses which aren't very good, two quarterbacks which are
are electric and can run the ball.
Speaker 6 (38:06):
Not a lot of stops in this game. I feel
great about.
Speaker 5 (38:08):
This one, Commanders and the Cardinals going over and giving
us a good show on Sunday, tune in in the
late afternoon window.
Speaker 4 (38:15):
I promised that until it happened, I'm gonna go with
the brock Powers touchdown. So I'm going with that again. However,
I'm adding to it a Breese Hall touchdown. You don't
think that that entire Green Bay staff is looking at
Nathaniel Hackett saying, hey, like, just so you know, Breese
Hall's been and anzone in the past six games, and
that's from last season two. Let's just keep that going,
maybe multiple times here. But both of those things are
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two things that you got to write that down, especially
the brock Powers one because I've been so right about
that one until now.
Speaker 2 (38:41):
All Right, so there is two touchdowns guaranteed, well not guaranteed.
Speaker 3 (38:45):
Gods they will Okay, we'll see coming up.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
I have a prediction that might feel bold because it
hasn't happened thus far this season. I think Najia Harris
gets into the end zone against the Indianapolis and that
up to this point porous run.
Speaker 3 (39:01):
Defense in a Steelers offense that's getting.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
Better as I see it week after week after week.
Speaker 3 (39:06):
And we'll see if Gred gets that. Just Gred picking
the Indianapolis, I.
Speaker 5 (39:10):
Am going to I'm just surprised you didn't take a
shot at Dalen Warren there.
Speaker 2 (39:13):
I'm proud not taking a shot at anybody taking a
shot in you.
Speaker 3 (39:15):
Guys to come back next week.
Speaker 2 (39:17):
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Speaker 2 (00:12):
Everybody Welcome to Game Debut, presented by Mercedes Ben Patrick
playboun here with dear friends Greg Rosenthal and Cynthia Freeland.
If you watch it so last week and kept track
of all the picture, we're like, hey, this wasn't necessarily
a good week. But let me tell you, Cynthia, it
was a great week.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
Do you know why.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
No, that's because let's check out the pickstandings. The crown
is off of Greg's head and it goes on Cynthia
as the leader at twenty seven and twenty one.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Greg sniped you at the beginning of the show last week.
I want to start with you, Cynthia, how do you feel?
Speaker 4 (00:45):
I would just like to thank everyone who made this possible,
all the teams that won, not any of you teams
that lost. But here's I'm going to say. We've been
doing for six seasons. Now I want a real crown
because for the seasons that we didn't have it, there
was no little tiny digital crown.
Speaker 5 (01:00):
So, oh my gosh, this is preposterous thought preposterous since
oh may the.
Speaker 6 (01:05):
Best I mean, the one thing Patrick, you know could have.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
This looks great.
Speaker 5 (01:08):
This is the first time anyone else has led since
Week thirteen of twenty twenty two, and now the real
crown comes out.
Speaker 6 (01:14):
For years, I.
Speaker 4 (01:16):
Was in little need and we didn't even have that
little tiny digital one that the smacks on your little
like stout, little fit need that little face did you.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Make, Greg, Greg's already the crown has taken hold. He's
already living in the past. Speaking of going back in Tom,
let's go in Doc rounds to Laurion.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Go back to twenty eighteen, the seventh pick in the draft,
the Bills took a gunslinger out of Wyoming named Josh Allen.
Later that same night, Ozzy knew him, and the Ravens
traded back into the first round with the final pick
of Night one to take a kid from Louisville named
Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
The rest is history.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Both of these gentlemen now very very good quarterbacks. As
we fast forward to twenty twenty four, two of the
best in the entire game, the two squaring off Sunday
night in Baltimore, Buffalo is still undefeated.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Will it remain that way?
Speaker 4 (01:59):
Cynthia just barely per my mouth twenty four to twenty
three is my final projected score. But I want to
point out something about that high flute and root and
tootin Son of a Gun from ol Wyoming. That would
be Josh Allen. That's their fight song in case you
hadn't heard it. He's really great at throwing to the slot.
He has a one point oh two EPA when targeting
slot players twenty three twenty six four touchdowns two hundred
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and forty one yards. You know who's really good in
the slot besides Kueiosha Kir who dont k kid. So
that's why when you see these yak the ability to
run after the catch, which is something that Baltimore has
given up, especially to such catches, sixty two percent rate
on those slot catches. That is going to be a
problem for the rape.
Speaker 5 (02:42):
Yes, she's just got a little extra verve now with
that crown on, I don't like it.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Well, it's it's hard, it looks really it's a really
good looking crown. It works out, and I don't think
this game works out for the Baltimore Ravens.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
I know I'm gold.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
Bills by two points.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Yes, And you can say, well, Patrick, the last time
you did this.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
The Ravens gotta win in.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Yeah, maybe we're trying that again, but honest, honestly, I
think it is a loss at home for Baltimore, Tyler
bassfield goal being the difference because my concerns about that
defense weren't exactly alleviated last week watching the Cowboys go
up and down the field in the second half, and
now it's time to deal with Josh Allen who he
can still make plays like this. It's not all safety, Josh.
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He can make runs to the outside. At some point
he's gonna throw a pump fake Ravens defender is gonna
jump with nobody behind him, and Josh Allen is gonna
have a crucial run for a first down. I've just
seen it too many times. I am taking Buffalo to
win this bar too.
Speaker 5 (03:34):
Okay, so this is only the second time on Gating
game debut history that Patrick has gone against his Ravens.
Speaker 6 (03:39):
I love that.
Speaker 5 (03:40):
I'm getting a just greg on the Ravens winning at
home twenty seven to twenty six. So they've thread the
needle and these are two great teams. I have the
Bills winning the super Bowl, but not this week, and
it's partly because of the Ravens defense. The Ravens are
doing that thing again, and you say.
Speaker 6 (03:54):
Well, well, what is that thing?
Speaker 5 (03:56):
It's not just their running game, it's their defense getting
better bit by bit as the season goes along.
Speaker 6 (04:02):
That's good coaching, that's good.
Speaker 5 (04:03):
Developed and that's players like Travis Jones improving each and
every year.
Speaker 6 (04:08):
He's been outstanding this season.
Speaker 5 (04:10):
Nomde Madamweke also playing very well, Kyle van Ney, Michael Pierce.
Every week. I just see this group coalesce. They understand
what they're asked to do. In Zach Orr's defense, the
Bills have not played a defense nearly this good this season.
I think the Ravens need this game more and so, yeah,
I'm thread of the needle. It's a close game, but
the Ravens get the win at home.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
All right, Let's go back into the numbers and do
some maths. Cynthia will Lamar Jackson throw for over two
hundred and three yards on Sunday night?
Speaker 4 (04:37):
Oh yeah, buddy, yes he will. Why because we've seen
a lot of problems with his O line. They're shuffling
the deck. There three new offensive linemen this season. That's
an issue. And you know how you overcome that issue.
You throw quick passes. Quick passes, get guys open in space,
take advantage of the fact that on that Bill's defense
there are a bunch of missing pieces that no one
has really made him pay for yet. So you're going
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to see a lot of spine of the defense targeting
kind of that middle area with quick passes. So yes,
it is only two three, So yes, all.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Right, we're gonna find out a lot about both teams.
The Bills undefeated. Now let's go to another undefeated team,
the Seattle Seahawks. Seahawks with a tough matchup in Motown.
The Seahawks and Lions had an epic game last season.
Gino and golf exploded for seven hundred, almost seven hundred
passing yards between the two. Game went to ot where
Gino found Tyler Lockett for this six yard walk golf touchdown.
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Hawks won it thirty seven to thirty one, setting up
a special game debut matchup. As we get the rematch,
Greg's undying love for Eugene Cervill Smith against Cynthia's Lyons.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
What do you see happening? Greg?
Speaker 5 (05:39):
I gotta go with my man Gino in this one.
I went back and forth. Actually all week. I had
the Lions at first, but Gino Smith is the quarterback
that I'm more afraid because he's so good targeting man coverage.
What team loves to play man coverage on defense more
than almost anyone else, It's the Detroit Lions. What wide
receivers are ready to beat any man coverage you throw
out him, DK Metcalf, Tyler Lockett and Jackson Smith and Jigba.
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Gino Smith is throwing for over a seventy percent completion
percentage into man coverage this season, and this is just
a matchup he owns. People don't know of it as
a rivalry, but Gino Smith owns Dan Campbell. He's won
in two shootouts back to back seasons. Jared Goff, Dan Campbell.
They just can't beat Geno Smith. They're not going to
do it this week either.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
I agree Greg.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
I've got a twenty one to twenty road upset for
Gino and the Seahawks. I've loved the score fests between
these two teams, not just last year, in the past
couple of years as well. I do think this one
is a little bit different. Greg mentioned the matchup between
coach and the player. I'm looking back last year. At
this coach player matchup, it's coach McDonald's Baltimore Ravens defense
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against Jared Golf. The Lions were flumbings. The score was
thirty eight to six. Are they the twenty twenty three Ravens. No,
even the Ravens weren't once you got to the AFC
Championship camp. But they do get Gino the ball with
a chance, and I think that's all he needs.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Seahawks wins Cynthia.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
Because I'm wearing a crown, I'm gonna say this with confidence.
The Lions win. Oh my two points, twenty five to
twenty three. Do I feel confident? I was a wee
lad of just No, I was a weak girl of
just twenty in twenty twelve, just a little tiny girl.
The last time they went, not really at all. It
was graduate college. But don't worry about that. But I'm
looking at the run game, which is completely different. Am
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I worried that Frank Ragnell's not playing?
Speaker 6 (07:21):
Yes, you're darn my pick. It really did well.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
There's a lot of other people that are missing too.
Marks Davenport, yeah, Derek Barnes All and I are Anyways,
long story short, the run game has where all has been,
where all of the success has taken place, and both
of the running backs are still in Therefore, my math
still has it working out in favor of the Lions.
I will say six and oh for the Seahawks against them.
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If I weren't wearing the crown, I wouldn't be quite
as confident about it. But I'm wearing a crown, so
I'm confident.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
Yeah. The tweet from Woodyard, the.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Guy everybody concerned, They're not. Nothing's happening to Frank Ragnow
he did say that they put him down.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
They just meant that there's no Frank ragnow.
Speaker 6 (08:00):
This week.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
Like an old yeller Ray Hard Now it's gonna be
all right, Get well soon. Frank jaed Goff could have
benged last year's lost. But speaking of revenge, let's talk
about the Buccaneers and the Eagles, another big rematch Sunday.
These teams faced off in last year's NFC Wildcard rounds.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
Baker lit up.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
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Speaker 3 (08:31):
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Speaker 2 (08:34):
The Burds and the Bucks down in Tampa, foughts with
everybody dealing with Hurricane Helen down there on the Gulf Coast,
Philly coming off a huge win in New Orleans, do
they keep it rolling this weekend?
Speaker 5 (08:44):
I think the Eagles get it done twenty four to
twenty because of the running game, it's supposed to be
the foundation.
Speaker 6 (08:51):
Of a Todd Bowles defense.
Speaker 5 (08:52):
Some of the greatest run defenses in NFL history have
been coached by Todd Bowles. You can't run against the
Todd Bowles deven Oh what if you can?
Speaker 6 (09:00):
You can't this year.
Speaker 5 (09:01):
Thirty first, then rushing defensive EFFICI and you got Saquon
Barkley coming to temph.
Speaker 6 (09:07):
This is a different Saquon Barkley.
Speaker 5 (09:08):
People say like, oh see, look, look what he looks
like behind a good offensive line.
Speaker 6 (09:12):
Yeah, that's part of it. But I'm gonna use my
eyes too.
Speaker 5 (09:14):
I think he's just running better, and he's more explosive,
and he's healthier than he's been for a few years.
So Saquon Barkley versus a bad Bucks defense, you don't
even have to worry about Jalen Hurts versus the blitz.
That's the reason Kellen Moore got this job, as they
couldn't handle the bitz. You don't even need to worry
about it when you hand it off to Saquon Barkley.
Speaker 4 (09:31):
I love that, and I also agree. Philadelphia wins twenty
four to twenty two, so a two point win for
the Eagles in this matchup. I'm just looking at what
Dallas Goddard did last week. I'm looking back to see
how he was used in so many different ways. He
really tricked the Saints defense quite a bit. That ready
to see all the game boom. That's it when you're
watching to see how they're kind of changing some of
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the script this season, making adjustments to AJ Brown being out,
what happens with de Bunch, et cetera. They're really leaning
on Dallas Goddard here. And you talk about that blitz situation, Yeah, well,
they don't have a sack when they're flitzing. They're the
only team in the league to say that. And when
they don't blitz just two secs, so this is not
a big pressure situation.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
Yeah, Tampa Bay missing two of their best players.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
Still, I've got the Philadelphia Eagles twenty three to twenty
all Birds. As we look at Vic Fangio's defense really
stepping up in the Superdome last weekend against an offense
that was playing to an historical extent just stopping the run.
Jalen Carter had a spectacular game, and now Cody Mauch
has given up fourteen pressures.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
He's going to be lined up primarily against Jalen Carter. Baker,
good luck.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
I think the Philly defense is ready and the Birds
get the win, and so Bucks fans, you have your
meme opportunity meme away.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
Really, what a glorious sound.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
It's time for the Drive to Excellence presented by Mercedes Bins.
The undefeated Kansas City Chiefs taking on the Chargers at
SOFI Stadium. Patrick Mahomes one hundredth career start. Does Casey
remain unbeaten after this one.
Speaker 4 (11:01):
Cynthia, Yes they do. Twenty six to seventeen is my
final score. No, I'm never taking the crown off, but
I am going to say that Travis Kelcey is going
to have a rebound game. Here's why I do understand
that thirty five yards a game is not what the
rest of us or fantasy players, or probably even Taylor
Swift was anticipating this time through the season. However, when
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you're looking at how good the Chargers have been at
defending yards after the catch on routes that are run
by Rashid Rice, they're going to devote extra attention to him,
which what leaves Travis Kelce open. Do you know who
basically owns the Chargers, trav Ravis Kelce. So that's why
I think this is the week the touchdown happens.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
Okay, yeah, a lot of people will be happy to
see that.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
I also have Kansas City in this game twenty three
to fourteen, because honestly, the Chargers.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
Are very, very hurt. Derwin James is.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Going to be out for this game as well as
Joey Bosa leaving the game last week. Justin Herbert could
be hobbling around, or it could be Taylor Heineke. I'm
taking the Kansas City Chiefs because of that. I do
want to sew some video of Patrick Mahone. I'm throwing
crossers because sometimes we just see something over and over
again and we gotta take it for granted. You just
have to defend every bit of blade, every single blade
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of grass.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
When Patrick Mahomes is playing football.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
And sometimes there's just a guy dragging across and he's
gonna make a god miss in the in the pocket,
he's gonna throw the cross.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
They're gonna get thirty yards and none you can do
about it.
Speaker 5 (12:22):
You know what, you know what else they take for granted,
well's that that the Chiefs speeding the Chargers every time
they play him. I mean, I've picked the Chargers so
many times in this matchup. It never happens. They even
in the best of times, it doesn't happen. It's not
happening this week. They're not gonna score double digits. It's
twenty to nine Chiefs in this game. Look, defenses are
asking Patrick Mahomes, can you just please hand the ball off?
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And he says, okay, we've got Carson Steele. Who's Carson Steel? Like,
didn't he run a four seven seven forty? Like, isn't
that the name of like an adult entertainer. He's like,
I don't care. I'm gonna get it done. I'm gonna
get my four yards. I'm gonna get exactly what's blocked.
You know, who's the number one running back in the
NFL right now, Cynthia and Patrick in success right number one.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
It's not Carsons anyway.
Speaker 5 (13:08):
Carsons even though he has no big plays, but if
you need four on first and ten, he'll get you four.
Speaker 6 (13:14):
That's all they need.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
Huh. I will just move on as we're speaking of
the Chiefs.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
So they played abroad last season the NFL going back
to Europe next week. We got Sunday Morning Football Live
from London at nine thirty am Eastern, exclusively on NFL Network.
Aaron Rodgers and the Jets take on Justin Jefferson and
the Vikings at Tottenham Hot Square Stadium in London. Rise,
shine and watch Jets against the Vikings on NFL Network
and streaming on NFL Plus. Subscription required for NFL Plus. Now,
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before the Vikings go across the Pond and we get
the the Sam Donald revenge game, we're going to Lambeau
to take on the Packers.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
Are the Vikings? What do you see happening? Grig?
Speaker 5 (13:55):
I think the Packers win this game because Brian Flores's
defense right now has shown like you got to have
a dude back there at quarterback to possibly beat him
and the Packers do. His name is George and Love
he's practicing this week. It sounds positive for him playing.
And when you look at the matchup that they had
with Brian Flores in this Vikings defense a year ago,
a lot of drop back passing, a lot of deep shots.
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You want to send all those blitzers. We're gonna win
our matchups and we're gonna hit you with some big plays.
I think the Packers' offensive coaching staff can get ready
for this matchup in a way that the other teams
the Vikings have played could not. Look if it's Malik Willis,
I think they have a chance because the Packers running
game is so good this year number one in the NFL.
That they can hit you with the pass, they can
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hit you with the run. But Jordan Love's return is
really the key factor and why I'm taking them. I'm
torn here because I kind of want NFL network to
have an undefeated Vikings team going to London.
Speaker 6 (14:47):
But either way, that's a great game.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
I also agree that the Grand Bay Packers will win,
but we see a completely different game because I don't
think Jordan Love is going to play in this game.
I think it's gonna be Malik Willison. Perhaps all the
love talk that we've heard has been a bit of
a smoke screen coming out of Wisconsin, but Gran's right
the Packers Battleafloor has been calling incredible plays during this
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Malik Willis run, including the screen game, and I know
Brian Floor is this propensity to bring the house send
even though the Vikings were getting pressure with just four.
There's gonna be some play in this game, which I
think is a very low scoring game. I've got it
seventeen to sixteen where the Vikings send the blitz and
whether it's Jade Reid, whether it's Romeo Dobs, there's some
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sort of screen the rookie Wilson gets involved. Big play
winds up being the difference of the game commissioner Goodell.
Speaker 4 (15:36):
I'm actually the only one that cares about working here
because I do want the Minnesota Vikings, and my model
did pick them, so clearly I am the most company
of company people to my model picked.
Speaker 6 (15:45):
It is a prime other prime number.
Speaker 4 (15:47):
Twenty three to twenty two. Minnesota wins this one. I
want you to take note of three specific things that
happened last game, and that is the three sacks that
the Minnesota Vikings had when only rushing for aka not
blitzing three other five me out. You said that they
need a stud back there at quarter. What do you
think CJ. Stroud's not a stud. Come on now, man,
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I don't know what you're smoking, but ultimately you're still
thinking about that last thing with your guy Chad Steel.
Speaker 6 (16:13):
Carson Steel.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
Chad Steel is.
Speaker 4 (16:15):
The anyways, long story short is Brian Flores showed that
interesting balance thing where he kind of adapted to the
situation by not blitzing. It was fifty to fifty. They
had the most pressures of the week with twenty three.
Thirteen came with the blitz, ten came without. Three of
the five sacks came without the blitz. So they did
that thing that like really is all about life, right,
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It's balancing what I do best versus what my opponent
does worst and figuring out. So you're welcome, Commissioner Goodell.
I yeah, you can send to me an extra you know. Bonus?
Speaker 3 (16:48):
Yeah? Why not? One?
Speaker 2 (16:49):
Bonus is having the best at his position. Justin Jefferson
on the Vikings. He's got three touchdowns in three games.
Does he get four for four Cynthia, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (16:59):
I mean it's kind of as simple as that.
Speaker 5 (17:01):
Diya Alexander though, having kind of a comeback season, Let's go.
Speaker 6 (17:04):
Buddy a minute.
Speaker 4 (17:05):
Let's talk about how this team is super roller coastery. Right.
They have the most interceptions with seven, but they also
allowed the most yards after the catch overexpected boop boop boop.
Which one wins? Justin Jefferson And that's all.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
We're gonna watch the games when we come back. Greg's
favorite rivalry, Derek Caring.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
The Saints going to Atlanta to take on Fast Chains.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
And the Falcons.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
Who walks away victorious and whose fans are going to
be itchy?
Speaker 3 (17:26):
On Twitter dot com we found out.
Speaker 6 (17:28):
Next how these fans eighty fires.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
We're back on Game Deview.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
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the Saints and the Falcons in Atlanta this week, Cousins
and the Dirty Birds nearly upset the Chiefs. There was
a fourth down stop by KC. Last week, the Saints
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fell to the Eagles, who turns it around Sunday Cynthia.
Speaker 4 (17:57):
The Saints turn it around. I have a final score
of twenty three to twenty two, so just a one
point victory. I want to point out something that the
Eagles defense showed us, and that is how to stop
the run of the Saints. I know, I just said
the Saints are gonna don't worry, it'll all come back
full circle out.
Speaker 6 (18:11):
Okay, don't worried, Greg, But.
Speaker 4 (18:12):
Ultimately here, the outside zone run was an area that
they were just crushing in the first two weeks of
the season almost six yards per rush and that went
down to like three. So what do they do? They
really just figured out a way to nullify it. And
which what did that lead to? That led to Derek
carving under the most pressure he's been under it this season,
most pressure in a while like his career, and then
that was a problem. The problem for the Falcons in
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this matchup is they don't have the personnel to execute
that same sort of strategy. So even though the Eagles
gave us the formula, executing it is again not as
easy as it is to talk about executing it. So
I mean, we could do it here on this stage obviously,
you know, if we played football but whatever.
Speaker 5 (18:51):
It's that crown. That crown is like never coming off.
Just a lot of differ it's hurt bolted on. I
love that we agree in this game for the same reason.
Speaker 6 (18:58):
You're right.
Speaker 5 (18:58):
I don't think Atlanta's got the personnel. I think the
Saints get it done twenty seven to twenty three. When
you watch thet in week three, just something was missing?
What was missing? Yeah, they're center Eric McCoy, he's not
coming back. But Taysom Hill is. It's a fullback game
debut this week. We got Carson s know, we got
Taysom Hill.
Speaker 6 (19:16):
I really mean it. Taysom Hill.
Speaker 5 (19:18):
First of all, he's the second best running back on
this team. He's a really talented runner. He'll get the
ball in short yardage and break some tackles. But more importantly,
as a fullback. Clint Kubiak really uses him, not just
as a sixth offensive lineman, but to manipulate the defense.
Speaker 6 (19:35):
Who got spot shadows?
Speaker 5 (19:36):
We got him blocking and what they do before the
stap after the stap.
Speaker 6 (19:40):
He is so crucial.
Speaker 5 (19:41):
He is returning for this game, and I don't think
the Falcons have the linebackers to stop this running attack.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
Yeah, it's unanimous.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
I've got the New Orleans Saints as well, one point
win twenty two to twenty one. Like Cynthia does, it
is based on the Saints defense, uh making some plays
as well. Because I'm looking over at Tyer Matthew for
the past few weeks, back to back games with an interception,
the Honey Badger taking what he wants again.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
He's getting hits out on the edge.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
And Greg called it earlier in the years, like, I
feel like this is going to be a Tyron Matthew
type season where we look up and he's back in.
Speaker 6 (20:13):
The Pro Bowl.
Speaker 4 (20:14):
Did you have like another defensive back on that team
having three and a half sacks this point in the season,
Because that, my friend, would be crazy.
Speaker 5 (20:21):
No, I want to have a Monte Taylor going that crazy.
But shout out to Honey Badger. He followed me on
Twitter this week, welcome aboard. It's going to be a
great ride for you.
Speaker 3 (20:29):
Yeah, just just wait, Tyron.
Speaker 6 (20:32):
Greg.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
Greg will open up a little bit as the season
goes on. Right now, he's very the crown.
Speaker 4 (20:37):
Yeah post my crown, so he sees it.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
It's a tough spot.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
Let's do some math, Cynthia will Kirk Cousins passed for
over two hundred and thirteen yards in this game against
Greg's newest Twitter follow up, I.
Speaker 4 (20:49):
Hope he sees my crow. I have him passing for
nearly two hundred and forty yards. So it is a
very strong yes for me. Why because he's going to
have to I have this game falling in a game
script where the Saints have nice control with their run game,
which means the Falcons are going to have to take
the shots downfield, which means there's a guy in Drakelen
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who's getting the zone. But other than that, they're going
to be at least two hundred and thirteen yards easy psy.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
All right, so we got a couple overs in the
quarterbacks throwing for what seems like a very love number.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
This week's son for quick picks. As we get to
the Browns and the Raiders.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
In Vegas, we're assuming somebody will score in this football game,
both teams coming off of losses.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
Who gets to win here? Great?
Speaker 5 (21:31):
This was a tough game to pick. I took the
Browns winning sixteen to thirteen. It's just a depressing game.
Miles Garrett's not one hundred percent. Max Crosby's not one
hundred percent. But Miles Garrett at less than one hundred
percent is better than your guy at one hundred percent.
He was carrying Andrew Thomas, the great tackle of the
Giants last week, and pressuring the heck out of the
opposing quarterback Daniel Jones despite not being one hundred percent.
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He's a warrior, and I think he's got more help
around him in terms of his defense. So Browns, you
gotta bench Deshaun Watson. It's past time. But I think
you get the win because of your defense.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
Yeah, something is the only person has a team score
more than twenty points in that.
Speaker 4 (22:06):
Game, the barnburner of mine, the Patriots and the forty
nine ers.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
Any chance, Cynthia, the Kyle Shanahan's team loses three straight.
Speaker 4 (22:14):
There's always a chance, but this is not a strong
chance in my model. In fact, this is number one
in terms of confidence. San Francisco wins twenty six to fifteen.
Can we just talk about Dwan Jennings. Yeah, well, he
just was absolutely incredible. Yet again, this guy has a
ram target on his back. It doesn't matter rams games
he comes to play. It's where all of his touchdowns are.
(22:34):
I really have you know, The crux of this is
the fact that unfortunately, you know, the forty nine ers
are very good at stopping the run Fred Warner, et cetera.
But ultimately, here, San Francisco, let me get.
Speaker 6 (22:45):
This cat right here.
Speaker 4 (22:45):
Let's bob me that. Yeah, Jwan Jennings, he'll he'll do
his fantasy damage early in the game and then they
can run for the end of the game.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
All right, Let's go to the Jags and the Texans
in Houston. Houston humbled last week against the Minnesota Vikings,
but I think they bounce back here finals score twenty
two to nineteen, only three points different. It was really
just a bad matchup as well as a game plan
for the Jags defense. On Monday night, they just ran
into a buzzsaw in Buffalo. I don't think they're that bad.
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And now they get back in a situation where there's
that divisional familiarity, so I think that lowers the total
as well.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
But I do think CJ.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
Stroud of the Texans bounce back to win it, as
we all do.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
Meet this away Jacks fans, if you.
Speaker 5 (23:23):
Mean, well, what if the Jaguars are that bad, because
they really haven't played a complete game against anyone yet
this year. There haven't There hasn't been a game this
year where you watch the Jaguars and you said, yeah,
that's a good team. So I think the Texans in
a game they really need to win, get their mojo
backed offensively.
Speaker 6 (23:41):
I think they can roll big.
Speaker 4 (23:42):
Okay, So if you're a Jags fan, you can say, sure,
the Texans have beating us, you know, out of the
last twelve games ten times, but the two were both
in Houston.
Speaker 6 (23:49):
Okay, So there we go.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
There it is, history is on your side.
Speaker 4 (23:53):
Kind of non predictive, but you know, fun to say.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
Parenthetically.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
The Commanders and the Cardinals first touchdown score odds, James
Connor Lean the way, Brian Robinson Junior, despite all the
action for Terry on Monday Night, I know, not featured here,
still happy for him. Finally got a quarterback in our
nations capital. Let's dive into this game Jayden versus Kyler
Daniel's putting the league on notice Monday night in Cincinnati.
(24:17):
But I like the Cardinals in this one. Twenty eight
to twenty six into what for me is actually the
Kyler Murray revenge game against Cliff Kingsbury. As the offense
rounds into shape. It's kind of been sporadic. He hit
all of his deep shots against the Rams, didn't throw
a lot of deep shots against the Buffalo Bills, threw
a few too many against the Lions. I am not
(24:39):
sure if there is such a thing as too many
deep shots against this Washington Commander secondary. Jayden and company
might have to score every time again, Cynthia.
Speaker 4 (24:48):
I mean, it seems like that would be the only recipe.
I don't have that happening, though. I only have a
two point win for Arizona twenty five to twenty three.
You talk about the Cliff Kingsbury revenge. What Cliff Kingsbury
does exceptionally well is figure out how to overcome not
so great O lines, right, and that is what we've
seen with Jayden Daniels. Look at him, he's just cooking
up some new players, right, Let's find the right play
(25:11):
here for my guy, Jad and Daniels a crazy dual threat.
The deep ball is something we're like, is this going
to be something that happens all the time. I mean,
look at him on a space that they're coming up
with on the runs. Look at him on a space
and do you think that Cliff Kingsbury had anything to
do with that dance, probably unconfirmed there, But ultimately I'm
watching what Jaden Daniels is doing and they don't turn
(25:32):
the ball over and that is really really key. So
keeping that up against this defense will be good, which
is why I predict a closer game.
Speaker 6 (25:39):
Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 5 (25:40):
I am with you on everything you said about Jade
and Daniels. I love both quarterbacks in this game. I
do not love the defenses in this game, especially the
Commander's defense. Like, you can name a stat about this
Commander's defense and it's bad. Actually, pick one, pick a
defensive stack.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
Magic yars per too.
Speaker 5 (25:56):
They're bad at it, Cynthia, pick a defensive stat anything.
Speaker 4 (26:00):
How about touchdowns allowed in the past game.
Speaker 5 (26:03):
They're bad at its, bad at it pressure, bad at it.
They are the worst defense in the league by almost
any metric, and they still have a winning record because
they're playing.
Speaker 6 (26:12):
So well offensively.
Speaker 5 (26:13):
So yes, I'm showing you all the times opposing offense
has burned them because I think Kyler Murray and this
Cardinals offense is ready to put a forty burger.
Speaker 6 (26:22):
On him forty one to thirty seven.
Speaker 5 (26:24):
Not a lot of stops in this game either, but
the Cardinals get more points.
Speaker 4 (26:27):
I'm with you on that, So I have a touchdown
for Marvin Harrison Junior. Duh, what about Michael Wilson. Don't
forget about him for a fantas like him. The man
had nine targets last game. He caught eight of them.
You know how eleven targets Marvin Harrison Junior, that's number two.
And if there's any injury to the tight end, Michael Wilson,
He's a really great fantasy player. You could seize the
day with him and wear your own crowns.
Speaker 5 (26:47):
I mostly think of him as Sophia Smith's significant others.
Speaker 6 (26:50):
Soccer great, absolutely and fun.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
Just so many opportunities to watch our great offensive players.
Maybe not the best defensive circumstance that we like points.
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Speaker 3 (27:21):
In order to get the full terms, let's.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
Look over at the Steelers and the Colts. Notable player
props going into this one. Anthony Richardson looking at one
hundred and eighty one and a half passing yards.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
Right around that same number for Justin.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
Fields Jonathan Taylor at seventy three, Michael Pittman Junior at
four and a half.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
He's really been scratching to get to that.
Speaker 5 (27:43):
I mean, look at these sassing yards. This is like
Terry Bradshaw against Johnny United. Is not a matchup that
could actually happen, but it does represent the teams involved.
Speaker 6 (27:51):
You get what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
Yeah, absolutely fit with this matchup not necessarily cross era
of football matchoups is Fields versus Richardson this time around
it should be fun. The Steelers undefeated? Will they remain
undefare after this week?
Speaker 4 (28:05):
My math says yes, I have twenty one to twenty
in this matchup. Can we give a little love to
Justin Fields please? There's a really great next Sheen stat.
It's called completion percentage over expected, so the overexpected part.
Just say, what would an average in this down distant situation?
Score time all of those things be and how much
better are you doing? Plus eight point eight? Baby, that's
up from last season. He was sixty ranked sixteenths in
(28:27):
this metric. Now he's up in the top five. Let's
give him a little bit of love, especially because it's
not like this Steelers O line is like really really
great like the Colts. It's like twenty twenty one in
terms of ranking, not a great one. So what he's
doing is even better when you add in that context.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
Yeah, I think Justin Fields is playing really good football
and he's getting better every single week, which is huge
for me. I'm the Steelers scoring twenty six points in
a win and if you feel like that's a lot
of points for a team that hadn't scored a lot
of touchdowns. Have you seen the twenty twenty four Indianapolis
Colts run defense.
Speaker 3 (28:58):
I have.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
I've watched it every single week, and this is the
type of things that we have seen. Joe mix it
in week one, one hundred and fifty eight yards on
the ground, and then they go up against a Packers
statan that's running.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
The ball very well as well. Now we got Arthur Smith.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
Arthur Smith is really looking forward to this opportunity to
run the football game. I think Najie Harris is gonna
have a solid game. I think this could be a
good cor Daryl game too as well.
Speaker 6 (29:28):
Greg, I'm not so sure about that. Patrick.
Speaker 5 (29:31):
I think the Colts are going to win this game.
I'm gonna just screg it up. The reason why I
got back to back titles is I trusted my gut,
and even if the logic is saying Steelers, the gut
is saying this Colts running game is ready to go off. Yes,
Anthony Richardson is scattershot these days. You don't need to
worry about the past when you're playing nineteen seventies football.
Like I talked about what won the games back.
Speaker 6 (29:52):
Then, it was running the ball. This should be the
best running attack in the league. Let's just lean.
Speaker 5 (29:56):
Fully in on everything Anthony Richardson can do running the ball,
and then all the options that he has handing it
off to Jonathan Taylor. Jonathan Taylor's got that jute back.
This offensive line is running very well, I mean run
blocking very well, and I do think I know the
Steelers defense has been good against the run so far,
but I do think that is the way you're going
to beat them is not by dropping back to pass.
Speaker 4 (30:18):
Wait you say they've been good against the run, now
they'd been great? What happened with JK Dobbins? Ask we
just question?
Speaker 6 (30:23):
Okay?
Speaker 5 (30:24):
I love JK. Dobbins NFL Daily Guest. He's no Jonathan Taylor.
Look at Jonathan Taylor here in the moves that he's
making maybe the best.
Speaker 6 (30:31):
Running back just pure running back in the league. He's
right there at the top with him.
Speaker 4 (30:34):
I love Jonathan Taylor too, and I think this is
a very good O line. But give the Steelers their
come up and they are undefeated because of their defense,
I mean.
Speaker 6 (30:42):
What are they going to do? Go seventeen and no?
Speaker 5 (30:44):
I just feel like this is a spot the Cults
are like a two and two type of team.
Speaker 6 (30:47):
They're gonna get their win.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
All right, Well, we've got a chance to look at
just how consistent just been.
Speaker 5 (30:54):
Just Okay, I'm glad you're showing this graphic because if
even if I'm not winning all the just screggs, at
least I'm going for I'm having some guts this year.
Speaker 6 (31:02):
Join me, you know me? Cynthia and Patrick like, go
out of the limb.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
Everyone, Sincey's got multiple proble numbers this the more that
graphic will be up there, we'll get a chance to
look at it next week.
Speaker 3 (31:13):
Still to come. No Pooka, no Cup, no problem.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
The Stafford and the Rams may have saved their season
last week with the improbable win against the forty nine ers.
Will they keep things rolling Sunday in Chicago? Our picks
for Rams Bears coming up next on game day?
Speaker 3 (31:28):
Oh yeah, indeed, coach McVay.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
The Rams coming off that huge win against the forty
nine ers, Now they didn't playing go to Chicago to
take on Caleb and the Bears.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
How do you see it going good?
Speaker 5 (31:37):
I had to take the Rams. I struggled with this pickny.
I just didn't know who to pick. But ultimately, when
I really struggle, I go to quarterbacks. I go to organizations.
I go to coaching staffs. What is this Bears coaching
staff won nothing? What is Caleb Williams won at the
pro level?
Speaker 6 (31:53):
Nothing? He's a rookie. What has Matthew Stafford won a
Super Bowl?
Speaker 5 (31:57):
I saw him play last week like I saw him
play at the end of last season, which was like
a top five quarterback in the league. Sometimes you just
need the quarterback and the play caller. They're getting open
like it wasn't just that DeMarcus Robinson and two two
at Well and Jordan winning ten are making like crazy plays.
Speaker 6 (32:15):
They're getting open.
Speaker 5 (32:16):
And I know this is a tougher matchup, but again,
two teams that I really don't know what to make
of early in the season. I'm gonna go with the
top five quarterback.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
And I'm so glad that Matthew Stafford and the Rams
won that Super Bowl across the street because it allows
people to appreciate what he can do on the football
field and not like make binary decisions about whether a
players good based on one game in February.
Speaker 3 (32:36):
But I do like the Rams in this game. I'm
gonna get off my soapbox because the Bears can't protect
Kayleb Williams. They just can't. They can't run the ball either.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
It's like they if they try, it seems like they're
doing it against their will. But Jared Vers, the rookie,
has been spectacular. Collapsing pockets left them right. Played very
well against San Francisco last week. Six pressures, two knockdowns,
and a sack. Thus far this season, those numbers go
up this week, I think in a Rams wins see.
Speaker 6 (33:02):
I see where this is going here.
Speaker 5 (33:03):
This is how we're getting into trouble and that she's
getting her crown on her head. Patrick and I give
Cynthia like a home favorite, decent sized home favor.
Speaker 6 (33:12):
The Jets were a prime number. Just go go with it.
Speaker 4 (33:18):
Three nineteen Chicago Bears. Of course you don't like it,
because why would you like anything that keeps me in
this lovely crown in the rookie Kyle Williams who dealt
last week, not only did he get his first passing touchdown,
he also got his second one. Now I don't necessarily
think this Olne is great. I'm with you. I'm really
happy to see Jared Versus and Braden Fisk. That was
(33:39):
awesome for the Rams. But this is not the matchup
between Sean McVay and Kyle Shanahan's. They have something against
each other where they just like they go into their lab,
they make the prime number noise, and then they like this,
I'm gonna come up with some crazy stuff to come
after you. This is something where the Bears defense will
give them a little bit of an edge. The O
line for the Rams has been super banged up and
(34:02):
as good as Matthew Stafford is, as good as Karen
Williams is, it's just not enough, especially when you're starting
to see kayleab Williams get his footing in the league.
At the he saw Cole Kmett just score touch up. Yeah,
book that for this.
Speaker 6 (34:13):
Week as well too.
Speaker 4 (34:15):
They're getting yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 5 (34:16):
It's like all very logical, But what happened to romance, Cynthia?
Speaker 4 (34:20):
You know, I got a face swearing. I love a
good swear and I love when coaches swear at the
part whoosh, I almost swear, but I didn't.
Speaker 3 (34:27):
Yeah, swearing is plus three. Let's get to quick picks here.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
On game debut, it's the Andy Me because Andy Dalton
has a few revenge game opportunities.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
The main one, the Indy Dalton.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
Revenge Store starts against the winless Bengals.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
Does he do it two weeks in a row?
Speaker 5 (34:41):
Grin, he doesn't. He does it well, but he doesn't win.
So I like offense in this game. I like the
Bengals thirty to twenty four. So the Bengals they cover
the number you go over the over under. It's a
lot of points because Andy Dalton can get it done.
I wanted to show you some Andy Dalton Bengals highlights
to AJ Greens. AJ Greens, I believe could be going
into the Hall of Fame one day because he caught
so many nice passes from Andy Dalton. I know they're
(35:03):
happy with Joe Burrow, but Andy Dalton is better than
a lot of franchises have had at quarterback. He is
the all time franchise leader in touchdowns. To just give
some Andy Dalton respect. Played fantastic last week. This is
gonna be a fun game.
Speaker 4 (35:16):
Maybe if you at a Crown, they would have found
some Hawk video for you because Andrew Hawkins.
Speaker 5 (35:21):
Yeah, he got a lot of nice passes from Andy
on two exactly.
Speaker 4 (35:24):
But if maybe, if you had the crowd, maybe you
would have made it because we love Hawk on this show.
Speaker 3 (35:30):
Yeah, the Crown clout gets you better video.
Speaker 2 (35:32):
Shout out to Hank Monday Night Titans and Dolphins Cynthia.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
Both teams need a win. Which one is going to
get one?
Speaker 4 (35:37):
Yeah, Tennessee I have a one point win in this matchup.
Tennessee has a profile that's like a big league slugger.
Either they're hitting a home run or they are striking
out and this week. It kind of profiles to be
more of that home run. But I do want to
point out on the other side of this matchup, even
though there's so many injuries, we love us some Devon
h Chan in this room. You're still gonna want to
play him for fantasy. I understand there's questions about who's
(36:00):
starting at quarterback, what's going on there, but you know
who you don't need to worry about running back. A
Chan will get you the points you need before contact,
after contact, in the pass catching game. He is there.
Do it all, guys, So much love to him. This
is something to watch out.
Speaker 6 (36:15):
Not much left to the Dolphins, though.
Speaker 5 (36:16):
It is flat out disrespect when you get memed alert
against a winless team.
Speaker 6 (36:20):
Come after us Dolphins fans.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
Let's go thatthing nice about They're just they're having a
tough time. I hope that you do meme away, guys,
So go to the Broncos and the Jets. Then Nathaniel
Hackett revenge game. I will take the Jets here twenty
three to nineteen because Aaron Rodgers said, keep my name,
my coach's name out of your mouth, and they're gonna
come out and they're gonna try it really hard. No,
that's not the reasoning. My reasoning is just how fast
(36:43):
Aaron Rodgers is getting the ball out.
Speaker 3 (36:45):
He was getting rid of the ball.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
Super fast against the Patriots. In terms of the season,
he's top three two point five one seconds. Actually, Jade
Daniels is really good in that stat as well. I
was surprising for the rookie, but Aaron Rodgers delivering the
ball this season.
Speaker 5 (37:00):
Yeah, I think last week bo Nicks was a little
bit of fool's goal.
Speaker 6 (37:03):
The Jets can get more pressure.
Speaker 5 (37:05):
So Cynthia and I see this game a little differently
than Patrick. We have the Jets going over the number,
a comfortable win.
Speaker 6 (37:12):
I think this Jets team has a lot to do.
Speaker 4 (37:14):
I love good emotional win when it comes to like
keep my coach's name out of your mouth, like what
I love that. Don't get me wrong, keep it coming.
I want to hear it. Bulletin board material or whatever
they call it. Let's hear it.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
Yeah, let's get spicy, solid icy after the game, feeling great.
Speaker 3 (37:29):
Because it means more in New York City.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
Let's get some bold predictions for week four and write
this group down.
Speaker 3 (37:35):
What are the people scribbling?
Speaker 6 (37:36):
Okay, you want to go really bold.
Speaker 5 (37:38):
I'm going Commanders Cardinals over seventy points. Okay, now you
only need to go over fifty for it actually to
get over the total. But my total is over seventy
forty one to thirty seven. It's gonna be like Kurt
Warner and Aaron Rodgers in the playoffs. Everyone's talking about, Oh,
it's boring, you know, the way it's all run game
in the NFL.
Speaker 6 (37:58):
Points are down. We got the solution for you.
Speaker 5 (38:01):
Two defenses which aren't very good, two quarterbacks which are
are electric and can run the ball.
Speaker 6 (38:06):
Not a lot of stops in this game. I feel
great about.
Speaker 5 (38:08):
This one, Commanders and the Cardinals going over and giving
us a good show on Sunday, tune in in the
late afternoon window.
Speaker 4 (38:15):
I promised that until it happened, I'm gonna go with
the brock Powers touchdown. So I'm going with that again. However,
I'm adding to it a Breese Hall touchdown. You don't
think that that entire Green Bay staff is looking at
Nathaniel Hackett saying, hey, like, just so you know, Breese
Hall's been and anzone in the past six games, and
that's from last season two. Let's just keep that going,
maybe multiple times here. But both of those things are
(38:36):
two things that you got to write that down, especially
the brock Powers one because I've been so right about
that one until now.
Speaker 2 (38:41):
All Right, so there is two touchdowns guaranteed, well not guaranteed.
Speaker 3 (38:45):
Gods they will Okay, we'll see coming up.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
I have a prediction that might feel bold because it
hasn't happened thus far this season. I think Najia Harris
gets into the end zone against the Indianapolis and that
up to this point porous run.
Speaker 3 (39:01):
Defense in a Steelers offense that's getting.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
Better as I see it week after week after week.
Speaker 3 (39:06):
And we'll see if Gred gets that. Just Gred picking
the Indianapolis, I.
Speaker 5 (39:10):
Am going to I'm just surprised you didn't take a
shot at Dalen Warren there.
Speaker 2 (39:13):
I'm proud not taking a shot at anybody taking a
shot in you.
Speaker 3 (39:15):
Guys to come back next week.
Speaker 2 (39:17):
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