October 25, 2024 • 38 mins
Patrick Claybon, Gregg Rosenthal, and Cythnia Frelund begin focusing on the Dallas-Cowboys-San Francisco 49ers matchup, and the Seattle Seahawks-Buffalo Bills game. Later, they discuss the matchup between Joe Burrow and Jalen Hurts, then they share plenty more predictions ahead of week-8
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
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Speaker 2 (00:15):
Game Review for about Mercedes Benz, Patrick Claybund back here
with my dear friends Greg Rosenthal and Cynthia Freeland, who
it's very difficult to kind of get differences in picking
once the season goes on, because we learn more, we're
starting to make the same picks. But we've still managed
to differ just a little bit.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Greg, I mean we tried to the last couple of weeks.
I had a perfect week two weeks ago. Let's put
up the standings for last week. Is that what you're
trying to set me up for?
Speaker 2 (00:38):
No, I just wanted you to say that you guys
are my friends and we occasionally have So here's here's
what goes on. Greg has a one game lead now
on Cynthia, who has a three game lead over me,
and we're battling back and front.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
I think the important part is all of us have
great records over the last two weeks.
Speaker 4 (00:55):
How about that?
Speaker 5 (00:56):
Yeah, Well, we'll give you a diplomatic thing to say.
Speaker 6 (00:58):
For a guy who was literally being chased by security
through the halls of NFL Network had to say.
Speaker 4 (01:03):
Let's cut that out.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Oh so, Cowboys Niners a classic rivalry, much like the
rivalries on this show. Lately, San Franz has gotten the
best of Dallas. They've won the past three matchups, including
last year when they dismantled the Cowboys forty two to ten.
In Week ten, George Kettle had himself a day, grabbing
three receptions for three touchdowns the Randy malstat line against
the Cowboys. Teams meet up again Sunday night in Santa Clara.
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The forty nine Ers lost Brandon Ayuka last week to
a torn acl Deebo Samuel statuses in the air.
Speaker 7 (01:34):
Did the Cowboys get it done coming off the bi Greg.
Speaker 4 (01:36):
I do not think so.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
You want to buy week to restart your program, but
I think the forty nine Ers win this game twenty
six to twenty. It's a familiar matchup because of the
coaching situation in Dallas. Mike McCarthy had to be asked
during the week in a public press conference, Hey, what
do you think about your boss saying that you designed
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bad plays and that you have a bad scheme.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
I have never heard that from an owner.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
During the middle of the season, it started making me wonder,
like if they don't win this game. With all the
bad memories that they've had against the forty nine ers,
they had the playoff loss, they had the blowout loss
you mentioned last year. Patrick, I worry about what's going
on here. They're not getting healthy on defense, the offense
is stagnant. I think the forty nine ers still have
enough talent and certainly enough scheme. I think they can
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overcome their injuries on offense with a week to prepare
against this Cowboys defense, which has really been struggling.
Speaker 5 (02:31):
You have six points, I have seven points.
Speaker 6 (02:33):
I have twenty eight to twenty one, a few more
overall points projected for me as opposed to you from
Greg in this matchup. Why Well, I'm looking at this
Cowboys defense, and I'm looking at their ability to give
up Yak in.
Speaker 5 (02:44):
The passing game.
Speaker 6 (02:46):
They're just allowing guys to have tons of yards after
the catch. This has been an interesting stat about brock
Perty this year. He actually ranks last in terms of
the yardage coming the percentage of his yardage coming from Yak.
Where's for the past eight seasons that was a San
Francisco thing. So I think that trend reverses in this matchup.
And start to see that catch and run thing that
we're totally used to from this offense come back big time?
Speaker 4 (03:09):
Is it?
Speaker 5 (03:09):
George Kittle? Sure?
Speaker 4 (03:10):
Is it?
Speaker 5 (03:11):
Deebo Samuel Sure?
Speaker 4 (03:12):
Is it?
Speaker 5 (03:12):
Everyone?
Speaker 6 (03:13):
The answer is yes, anyone that's playing, They're gonna have
a good yacht day.
Speaker 7 (03:16):
I believe that they will have a good yack day.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
I don't necessarily see the high scores that you guys do.
I have a lower scoring game, a slower pace game
because the Dallas Cowboys still.
Speaker 7 (03:26):
Cannot stop the run. Greg mentioned the bye week.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
They had an entire offseason to figure out how to
approach the opposition running the ball.
Speaker 7 (03:32):
Here's what they've done.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
They are dead last and rushing efficiency, dead last against
under center runs, and dead last thirty two in three
categories in design runs. Jordan Mason second in the league
in yards and carries. Again, if they couldn't do it
in an entire offseason, I don't know what the bye
week is going to do. We are all aboard on
the forty nine ers against the Dallas Cowboys. Nemaus get
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us Cowboys.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
There are no Cowboys fans left anymore, so they can't
meme us.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Both considered Super Bowl contenders coming into the season as
where the Bill who made a new acquisition last week
who had an.
Speaker 7 (04:07):
Immediate impact not pictured in there was a celebration. Ever,
I going to hug Mark Cooper.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Him like feeling uncomfortable at all the love coming from
his teammates. The Bills are the Seahawks at Luomenfield, Josh
Allen against Gino Smith Seattle coming off a big win
in Atlanta.
Speaker 7 (04:21):
Do they keep that going at home?
Speaker 6 (04:23):
Cynthia, I think they keep it closer, But I still
have Buffalo winning this matchup twenty five to twenty three.
When I'm looking at Josh Allen this season and what
he's been doing, let's just say the number two hundred.
Speaker 5 (04:34):
And eighty six.
Speaker 6 (04:34):
That's how many consecutive passes that Josh Allen has thrown
without that other thing that happens. I know sometimes Buffalo people,
we are Midwesterners.
Speaker 5 (04:42):
I'm a Midwesterner. They're Midwesterners.
Speaker 6 (04:44):
There.
Speaker 5 (04:44):
That's the highest compliment I can give you. You can't
jinx it.
Speaker 6 (04:47):
So that thing that's the opposite of completing a pass
but not incomplete anyways, that hasn't happened. It is the
longest current streak in football. It is the longest streak
in Bill's history.
Speaker 5 (04:56):
That has been a.
Speaker 6 (04:57):
Huge reason why this team is so great. And the
quick passes that is where they've really gotten things going,
especially on first and second day. That's going to continue
because that is a one way to really target the
Seattle defense.
Speaker 7 (05:08):
Yeah, you don't want to do that thing that hasn't happened.
To quote my dad, that thing.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
There's three things that can happen when you throw the ball,
and two of them are bad, and one of those
is the thing that Cynthia is talking about that.
Speaker 7 (05:18):
We're not talking about.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
I also have a close Bills win twenty six to
twenty five because of Josh Allen. The Falcons offense was
an issue for the Seahawks in the run game, but
in the passing game they were kind of limited because
Kirk Cousins isn't necessarily the most mobile.
Speaker 7 (05:31):
So you go from defending Kirk Cousins to.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
Having to deal with this guy out on the edge
where he's number two in the league in passing yardage
on the run that's running at over eight miles an
hour and throwing the ball. He's also in the top
ten in terms of scramble yards. I think that's tougher
for Seattle. So I've got a Bills win here.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
Great, man, this is messed up because the Seahawks were
three point underdogs last week.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
I picked them. I got it.
Speaker 5 (05:55):
I know that's how you got up on them.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
I just figured one of you guys would take him. Here,
we have the same type of score, thread in the needle,
A close Bills win twenty nine to twenty seven. Yeah,
because it's like, kill your darlings. I love both these teams.
I picked the Bills to win the super Bowl this year.
It's partly because of the pass rush. So let's look
at what Greg Russo and Ed Oliver and this whole
group as a team is doing. They have a team passer.
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What we all have two point scores.
Speaker 5 (06:18):
I just thought that you were gonna like third person.
Speaker 6 (06:21):
Let's look at what Greg has said about Yeah, I'm not.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
If I win the picks competition for a third straight year,
I might start going third person all the time.
Speaker 4 (06:29):
But for now, I want to talk.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
About this defense because I do think against the Seattle
offensive line, that's the difference. It shows that we don't
feel that strong because we have the Seahawks covering all
three of us the three point spread, and yet we
don't have them winning.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
I think the biggest factor there is DK Metcalf's health,
and yes, and if that was the other way, I
would have been comfortable same picking the Seattle Seahawks instead
Seattle Meme Away.
Speaker 7 (06:53):
Moving to the Eagles, they've been able to win two straight.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Last week, Sinquan got some sweet revenge against his old team.
Speaker 7 (07:00):
He's done it again. The Eagles and Bengals.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Once upon a time long ago, Burrow and LSU bested
Hurts and Oklahoma in the Peach Bowl. They haven't met
in the professional ranks yet, so this is their first
time since.
Speaker 7 (07:13):
He's won three of their last four games. Who's winning
this one.
Speaker 6 (07:15):
Cynthia, You know, I was a little surprised when I
saw the outcome of my model in this one. But
I have the Eagles just the one point win, twenty
four to twenty three, in part.
Speaker 5 (07:24):
Because of that guy who we just saw. Do I
think it's going to be one hundred and seventy six
yards and a bajillion touchdowns in this game? I mean,
it could very well be.
Speaker 6 (07:31):
However, I think it's more about the consistency on early
downs so that Jalen Hurts has a chance to really
do the thing that he does best, which is figure
out all the different pass catching options that he has
on every single down.
Speaker 5 (07:42):
I know that Trey Hendrickson is there. I know there
are some o line questions in terms of health.
Speaker 6 (07:46):
However, Saquon running to the other side gives a lot
of help to Jalen Hurts and the offense. So for me,
it's the run game, in the stability in the run
game that tips the scales in the favor of the Eagles.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
And we have a similar difference in terms of one
point and a similar win in the Philadelphia Eagles. And
it's side a similar reason because the Bengals run defense,
while it has improved over the last few weeks, during
this run not enough. I got the Eagles twenty one
to twenty because I went to see just how much
the Bengals run defense had improved over the past few weeks, considering.
Speaker 7 (08:16):
The fact that Saquan is coming to town.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
So weeks one through four they were dead last in
rush defense success rate, and since then they've climbed all
the way up to still being in the bottom ten.
Speaker 7 (08:26):
They've gone from the opponent being.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Successful forty nine percent of the time to forty six
percent of the time. I don't think that's enough against
Saquon and company.
Speaker 4 (08:33):
Correct, I love me some home favorite, Just Greg, let's go.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
It has been a couple weeks actually since I had
to do it, Just Greg, But I have the Bengals
winning this game. I have them covering this game twenty
four to twenty. I'm not feeling comfortable about Jalen Hurts
in this Eagles offense right now because Jalen Hurts isn't
feeling comfortable. I know they won twenty eight to three,
but Fred Johnson, who's out there playing left tackle, is
not starter level at the NFL level. This is a
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good Bengals pass rush. Even when Jalen Hurts has been
protect lately. He's just kind of sitting there and waiting
and you said, like trying to make a decision, and
then he throws it to AJ Brown and that works
pretty well.
Speaker 4 (09:11):
AJ Brown is just amazing.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
But I look at these two teams and I thought
the pointspread was going to be higher in this game
because I just think the Bengals are a better team
right now than the Philadelphia Eagles, So I like them
to win and maybe even buy more than four points.
Speaker 7 (09:24):
We'll see. All right, let's go from there.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
This guy or that guy Cynthia, which star more likely
to have over seventy four receiving yards in this game?
Speaker 7 (09:32):
Is it aj Brown or is it Jamar Chase?
Speaker 6 (09:34):
It's both, but of the two, I think that Jamar
Chase has more yards in general. While I'm looking at
this opportunity here against the defense, and yes the Eagles
they have upticked that sack number big time, I still
think that this is Jamar Chase's yack. I mean, he
said it himself this week. He's like, you know, he's
gonna let let all of his performance do the talking
for him for how valuable he is.
Speaker 5 (09:56):
Right, he answered it. You should google it.
Speaker 6 (09:57):
It's very funny, meaning pay the man, which is what
they absolutely should and will do. But in this case,
I think it's going to be around night yards. So
I have a lot more than seventy four.
Speaker 7 (10:06):
Yeah, a lot of great receivers in this game. I
think they should pay Jamar Chase.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
I think they should pay t Higgins because it's fun
to see these guys on the field. At the same time,
Bears are the commanders. Jayden Daniels has been dealing with
a rib injury. If he can't go, Barcus Mariota gets
the start. Who do you like in this potential battle
of top picks?
Speaker 3 (10:22):
Grew Well, I like them both, but I like what
Caleb Williams is doing with the up tempo Bears passing attack.
I have the Bears winning this game twenty to seventeen.
I'm operating under the assumption Jaden Daniels isn't playing. I
would flip it if he is. But let's talk about
that up tempo game. Caleb Williams in the last couple
of weeks, including the game in London, was playing so
fast and this is the part of the game where
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maybe a younger quarterback isn't having to think quite as much.
You're dictating the matchups, and he's showing that he's very
good at the line of scrimmage, being able to figure
out and go fast, fast fast.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
Our friend Steve Weisch on the NFL.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
Daily podcast talk to someone within the organization and they said,
it really took a few weeks to figure out what
he likes to do.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
And Caleb Williams, he likes to go fast.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
We know he's accurate I mean, just look at that
seamball there to Cole Comet, the weapons are all healthy
coming off of a bye week, So yes, if there's
no Jayden Daniels, I think it's a lower scoring game.
Speaker 4 (11:16):
And I like the Bears to win in that scenario.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
A similar situation where I agree, I appreciate Caleb's contributions. Again,
a surgical magician literally doctor strange in that capacity, I've
got a Bears win as well by two points for me,
mainly because of the Bears defense. I recognize Caleb's playing better,
but considering what this defense has done, and I think
they'll be even healthier after the buy. Now, there was
Nojakwan Brisker, Kyler Gordon as of Thursday, but rotational guys
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like Jacob Martin and Zach Pickens full participants as well.
The lowest opposing quarterback rating allowed in the league, whether
it's Marcus or Jayden. I think the Bears defense makes
it tough and that gives me a confidence in a
two point edge.
Speaker 6 (11:55):
Cynthia Well, I'd like to have a surgeon that's magical
as opposed to a magician that's a surgeon. Anyway, either way, here,
I'm taking Washington here twenty four to twenty three. I
am operating under the assumption that we will see Jade
and Daniels. I do believe that I understand that this
is a rib injury, and I understand that's very painful.
But I also know that he's got this one circled since,
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like last.
Speaker 5 (12:17):
You know, the very minute you.
Speaker 6 (12:19):
Walk down, like whenever we schedule released in.
Speaker 5 (12:21):
May, Revenge game not Revenge.
Speaker 7 (12:23):
But they doubted me.
Speaker 5 (12:24):
They doubted me. They thought I was number two. I
thought all the world one. I felt, oh no.
Speaker 6 (12:29):
But I do think that this is an important one
for him, probably emotionally. His coach has nothing but good
things to say about him. When I'm looking at his
ability to connect with Terry McLaurin specifically, I know you
talked about how great those offensive backs are for the Bears,
but you also talked about they're not practicing. They weren't
practicing this week for Kyler or Gordon, for Jakwan Brisker.
Speaker 5 (12:46):
So Jalen Johnson is just one man.
Speaker 4 (12:49):
You know.
Speaker 5 (12:49):
He can't patrol the whole field. And I do understand that.
Speaker 6 (12:52):
You know, the other guys have been great and stepped
up in replacement, but This is a prime number, baby,
and probably won't be by the time it starts, because
I imagine it's gonna change a Ruski it. But you know,
I think it's Washington unfortunately for Bears.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
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Terms and conditions apply. Colts and the Texans top two
teams in the AFC South. When they met back in
Week one. Houston won it by two, twenty nine to
twenty seven.
Speaker 7 (13:32):
It feels like forever ago. What happens this.
Speaker 6 (13:34):
Time in Week A, Cynthia a Begger win for Houston
is what I have forecast twenty six to nineteen in
this matchup.
Speaker 5 (13:40):
I want to say something about how CJ. Stroud has
been playing.
Speaker 6 (13:43):
I did a lot of homework on Stroud specifically, and
he's kind of been like quarterbacking two point Oho.
Speaker 5 (13:48):
There's like three steps one. Step one, be really good.
Speaker 6 (13:50):
You don't necessarily need to be offensive rookie of the
year good, but you do need to be really good.
Speaker 5 (13:54):
Step two.
Speaker 6 (13:55):
Then maybe what you're gonna do is you're gonna have
defenses try to really have things that they do against you.
Speaker 5 (14:00):
Specifically, we saw it last week with the Packers.
Speaker 6 (14:03):
They didn't even blitz it, but they brought the heat
with four or fewer pass rushers and that got to him.
Speaker 5 (14:07):
All right, now we learn something. Now it's c J.
Speaker 6 (14:10):
Stroud's turn to evolve into his next iteration of him.
So all these bad things are seeing happen that is
not gonna be the case in this matchup.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
I love that, and I love the Texans in general.
I didn't like seeing all that negative c J.
Speaker 4 (14:22):
Stroud.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
You know tape, let's put something positive about the Texans.
They win thirty three to nineteen, and it's partly because
c J. Stroud's gonna hand the ball off to Joe
Mixon and the offensive line that's so bad at pass
protection doesn't have to worry about it as much.
Speaker 4 (14:35):
This is the biggest.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
Boom or bust offense, and especially boom or bust running.
Speaker 4 (14:42):
Game in the entire league.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
But when it's boom or bust, Patrick, what do you
think happens against the Colts defense.
Speaker 7 (14:47):
Yeah, it's the boom, it's boom.
Speaker 4 (14:49):
I mean Joe Mixon.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
He can have one, one, negative one and then he'll
have forty And I think that's what's gonna happen in
this game.
Speaker 4 (14:56):
Three or four different times.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
They end up racking up big rushing yards with those
quick hitting runs where it really gets up the seam
and I'm going thirty three to seventeen.
Speaker 4 (15:05):
It's a get right game for the Texans offense.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
All it's unanimous. I've got the Houston Texans as well
in this game. A bounce back game, not just for CJ. Stroud,
who had eighty six yards passing, but for Tank Dell
as well, because when I think about the Colts, I
think about Gus Bradley's defense going out there and having
a similar type scheme and plan week after week after week,
and Cynthia outlined you got to be a little bit
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different to get c J. Stroud off the edge and
back in week one, there was a lot of Tank
Dell getting involved. He also had two carries in the
game seven targets. I know it's been a slow start,
but I think without Nico Collins, this is the game
for TANKDLL to come out there and have a big
game against a division rival.
Speaker 7 (15:44):
More to come here on game debut. Up next to another.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
Big matchup for the top spot in a vision going
down in Tampa. Baker in the Bucks versus Kirko Chains again.
They scored a billion points last time. Who's ready to
claim the South? Our answer right after this, Oh, that
was the most fun I've had on a Thursday night
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since Baker Mayfield's epic win across the street at so
Far Stadium a couple of years ago.
Speaker 7 (16:12):
That was a walk off win.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
In Week five for the Falcons against the Bucks. We
got a big rematch Sunday for first place in the South.
Tampa will not have Chris Godwin unfortunately, or Mike Evans
who gets it done here.
Speaker 6 (16:24):
Cynthia Well, that shifted my score completely. I have at
Landa winning this one twenty three to twenty. It's not
great when you have to say, like these two guys
who are everything to your offense are gone. But on
the other side, you need to sit down for the
stat I know drew our producer really likes it too.
Do you know that last week was the first time
in Bajon Robinson's career as a pro that he had
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one hundred or more rushing yards and a rushing touchdown
in the same game that.
Speaker 7 (16:48):
I had no idea.
Speaker 5 (16:49):
That's wild, Like, I don't that's that's how a good
mic drop thing.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
Anyways, he had security should be going after Arthur Smith
for that.
Speaker 4 (16:57):
I mean, that's ridiculous.
Speaker 6 (16:58):
I mean, that's that's a wild stat It's pretty incredible.
Speaker 5 (17:02):
But this is the difference maker in this game.
Speaker 6 (17:03):
I think both defenses have some big question marks, but
with all of those pieces missing on offense, the run
game and the stability the run game can give you
the ball control. It just means maybe he has another
one hundred yard and one rushing touchdown.
Speaker 5 (17:16):
Wild that's the first one.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
It's something that we've been saying for most of this
season that this is not the traditional run.
Speaker 7 (17:21):
Stopping Todd Bowles defense.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
I have Atlanta winning this one mainly again, it's a
lot to overcome with the injuries, and the Falcons.
Speaker 7 (17:29):
Had that big win.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
With the entire facility available for Tampa Bay and now
they go back in and this offensive piece is just
hurt and including Darnell Mooney is back. Folks, you want
to talk about a stat line on Thursday Night football,
Darnell Mooney had sixteen targets. He had nine catches. This season,
he has thirty two catches. Eleven of them have been
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on third down, third and Darnell is on the way
for Tampa.
Speaker 4 (17:55):
Bayker, Okay, I think this is a tough one.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
I don't like when they play their whole season series
within just a couple of weeks and it's over this
the biggest game, and yet there's something about me. It's
just a hunch that the Bucks get this wrong. And
you might say you want more than a hunch, but
let's go just Greg Nation, My hunches have been like
one or two games better than these two over about
a two hundred and eighty games sample size. So this
is a pick against the Atlanta Falcons defense.
Speaker 4 (18:19):
Let's go to that. Let's go to the tape for
some bad Falcons defense. They don't have anything.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
Yeah, that was the point, Like, it's not really much
of a difference that I get like one or two
games up on you guys, but I like to brag
about it. The numbers are ridiculous for how bad this
pass rush is dead last in the league in pressure rate,
despite the fact that they blitz at the tenth highest
rate in the league. So they're sending extra guys and
they still get no pressures.
Speaker 4 (18:45):
You know how many sacks they have this season.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
Six, that's like a light day's work for Aiden Hutchinson.
Give me a break with this pass rush. I think
the scheme for the Bucks is good. Baker Mayfield's up
and down. We're due for an up. Let's go Trey Palmer,
Let's go Bucks defense. And I just think it. They
don't deserve to win the division this early.
Speaker 5 (19:03):
The Falcons catch us stray. Why go to remind me
that A Hudginson isn't playing?
Speaker 3 (19:08):
Oh sorry, yeah, that was well. He he's the guy
with five or six sex in game.
Speaker 4 (19:11):
Just me worked.
Speaker 7 (19:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
Anyway, we're gonna sort everything out here and make sure
everybody's okay.
Speaker 7 (19:16):
The team everyone looking up at.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
Right now, the Chiefs, of course, Kansas City the only
remaining unbeaten. If you're wondering VIT's seeing Jack Jones going
to the end zone. This is the last time they
haven't lost a game since Christmas, and it was against
the Raiders back in December, Antonio Pierce's squad win an
arrowhead sucker punched. The Chiefs went in twenty to fourteen
to Spight am O'Connell throwing for sixty two yards. Since then,
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mahomes squad has won twelve straight games, including a game
where they hoisted the Lombardi Trophy. So that gets us
too quick picks here on game debut, A big rematch,
well big for one day between the Raiders and the Chiefs.
A and O'Connell out with a thumb injury, so incomes Gardner.
Speaker 7 (19:54):
Will Gardner shock the world?
Speaker 4 (19:55):
Greg he will not.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
Chiefs win this game twenty four to thirteen with their
new wide receiver DeAndre Hopkins getting it done for Patrick Mahomes.
Maybe it's not a huge package of plays, although the
way he's been.
Speaker 4 (20:08):
In different offenses throughout his career.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
I would expect he's out there thirty forty STAPs and
certainly in the red zone. Patrick Mahomes needs someone that
can catch a ball in tight windows where he knows
he can be accurate, and just his receiver is gonna
make a play. Justin Watson nice player, not that guy.
DeAndre Hopkins definitely that guy. They get it done and
they remember that loss to the Raiders. They do not
want to let it happen again.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
So there it is Raiders fans, although maybe you feel
the same way we do it this point, the Packers
and Jags down in do ball.
Speaker 7 (20:37):
Green Bay has won three in a row. The Jags
to play back to back games in London. They flow back.
They don't have no buy Cynthia. Can they overcome that?
Speaker 6 (20:45):
No. I actually have a closer game than maybe you
might think. Twenty six to twenty two for Green Bay.
I'm looking at Jordan Love and how well he does
when he doesn't get blitzed. I mean, the numbers are staggering,
like one hundred and fourteen passer rating, eleven touchdowns.
Speaker 5 (21:00):
He's right up the top of the league when nobody
blitzes him.
Speaker 6 (21:03):
And it's very unlikely that this team, because they're really
The strategy for the Jags has been to sort of
protect a lot of their secondary so you can't blitz.
You can't leave them on that like less number situation
when you got all these.
Speaker 5 (21:16):
Different pass catchers.
Speaker 6 (21:17):
So they're likely to not blitz a lot in this one,
which means we're gonna get good Jordan Love not interception.
Speaker 5 (21:22):
Jordan Love. Packers win all.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
Right, Gregson got the score getting really SOLDI he's thirty
seven to seventeen. They're the passers at the Broncos at
mile high. Bryce Young starting for Carolina. A rough one
as the youngster has to go against the number one
passing efficiency defense in the league. That's why I've got
the Broncos here eighteen to ten. But let's talk about
that Denver Broncos offense, mainly Javonte Williams, who didn't get
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to finish an incredible performance against the Saints because they
got the garbage time so early backups came in. So
here's another chance for the tackle breaking monster Javonte to
go up against a bad rushing defense in the NFC
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first touchdown score odds, it's three gents at the top
breasts Davante and Garrett Wilson, followed by Ramandre Stevenson's not
getting a lot of carries in the red zone specifically,
and then Antonio Gibson. So let's discuss this big in
some places. Matchup in Foxboro, Aaron Rodgers and the Jets
have lost four straight.
Speaker 7 (22:25):
Do they turn it around? Cynthia?
Speaker 4 (22:27):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (22:28):
Is it a turnaround?
Speaker 7 (22:30):
Do they beat the Patriots?
Speaker 6 (22:30):
They beat the Patriots twenty five to seventeen. It's a
pretty big win by eight points. But I want to
talk about DeVante Adams because when you trade for someone
and you make this much noise about it, we absolutely
need to break down his first game and he lined
up in the slot on fifty what he played ninety
six percent of snaps, so I guess his hamstring's okay.
And he lined up in the slot fifty one percent
of the time. That is actually the highest for him
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since twenty sixteen. Back we were all just children and
he was playing in Green Bay with Aaron Rodgers. What
happened there, Well, he didn't really make much noise on either.
He did get a bunch of a decent amount of
targets in this game. However, I think that it takes
a minute for all the chemistry to come back. And
when you're looking at this defense, I'm sorry they're banged up.
Speaker 5 (23:10):
I don't think they're soft. I just think that they're
banged up.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
Yeah, sometimes things take tom sometimes they take longer than
two and a half seconds, which is how long it's
taking Aaron Rodgers to get rid of the football, especially
when he plays the team with a decent pass rush.
Speaker 7 (23:22):
He is not playing one. This week.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
The New England Patriots bottom ten in terms of pressure percentage.
And you look back at these few games, look at
the pocket for Trevor Lawrence to throw this deep ball
to BTJ and Christian Zalis played a solid game, but
it's hard to cover. Quarterbacks are able to just stand
back there and throw the ball like this, and imagine
Aaron Rodgers doing that. I don't have a big Jets
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win because I don't necessarily trust the Jets or think
they're a very good football team eighteen seventeen, but I
do think if you can't rush Aaron Rodgers, then it's
going to be hard to beat Aaron Roch.
Speaker 5 (23:53):
Okay, so we seventeen's hilarious.
Speaker 4 (23:55):
We do have a memeller.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
It feels like eighteen seventeen, that's the last time the
Patriots were good. But I have the Patriots covering, so
you got that go And for you Patriots. Two of
the three of us have you covering it's twenty four
to twenty. Let's just talk about Drake May because I've
heard talk in New England like, yeah, Drake May's playing well,
but everything else is a disaster.
Speaker 4 (24:15):
Don't lose the forest for the trees.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
Like this organization, the defense, the head coach, everything's disorganized.
Speaker 4 (24:21):
None of it matters.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
Drake May is the only thing that matters about this
entire organization. This season is a full on success. If
Drake May is a real dude. I think he's a
real dude. Through two games, he is looking like a
real dude. Whether the coaches last or the teammates last,
it doesn't matter because finding a franchise quarterback is the
only thing that matters.
Speaker 4 (24:43):
Drake May. I love you.
Speaker 6 (24:44):
I would like to put up a little meter of
how many times do you sort of accidentally throw shade
at me as a Lions fan who actually hasn't had
a team that's been good in a long time. Eighteen
seventy you're a Patriots fan. Okay, you got like all
these rings on your finger from whatever that is?
Speaker 5 (24:59):
Two for you, sir.
Speaker 4 (25:00):
They literally won the Super Bowl like six years ago.
So that's a fair point.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
Yeah, yeah, so there it is. It's meme alert and
Greg once again it gets to bemoan. Oh the troubles
that he has seen as a fan. Oh, I'm sorry
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Valoa expected to play, and that's the main reason I
think he gets the Fins back on track with They
win it by one, twenty one to twenty just because
the offense looks so much different, guys, when it's to
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a tongue of Valoa back there playing quarter. In fact,
let's remind everybody just how quickly he gets the ball
into the hands of his playmakers. And yes, the reason
that I didn't necessarily believe the Chargers were going to
beat the Arizona Cardinals last year. Last week was because
the Chargers don't make big plays. Well, I think Jalen Waddle,
Raheem Moster, Tyreek Hill. I know it hasn't been this year,
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but traditionally those are three guys that can make big
plays at Devon han In.
Speaker 7 (26:13):
I think it's a Finns win break.
Speaker 3 (26:15):
I have gone back and forth on this game more
than any game all season long, and yet somehow I
ended up on the Dolphins winning by ten points. I
just feel like it's like a blowout either way. I
think the Dolphins running game is why I kind of
believe in Tua's return, because everything else about the Dolphins
has been getting better. Let's to show the running game.
Please don't look at me anymore. You guys are laughing
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that I made it a ten point win. Someone's gonna
win this game in a blowout. They just feel like
teams that are gonna collapse if they fall behind. But
this running game over the last two weeks has been awesome.
The last couple weeks, over one hundred and seventy five
yards one ninety three against the Pats, one to eighty
eight against the Colts, and the Cardinals rush defense is
one of the worst in the league. So if the
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running blocking is getting going, everyone's healthy. Raheem Moster is back,
Jalen Wrights playing great eight chan is there. I think
that supports to a tugbailoa where he doesn't need to
be the hero, and it's a great matchup against the Cardinals.
Speaker 6 (27:11):
Well, you have a huge win for the Dolphins and
you have a very narrow win for the Dolphins. I
will be Goldilocks and go right in between. I have
Miami winning twenty five to twenty one in this one,
and sneakily, this front for the Miami Dolphins has had
a lot of pressure. Now it hasn't always resulted in
a sack, but it's like almost forty four percent of
the time they're getting after the opposing quarterback. Kyler Murray
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is a special type of different sort of dude back there.
But I want to give this this defense a little
bit more credit. And I also want to talk about
Chop Robinson. I love his name, and he has the
second highest pressure.
Speaker 5 (27:43):
Rate among rookie so that's fun.
Speaker 6 (27:46):
And when I'm looking at what could potentially happen in
this matchup, I do think like we have, potentially, at
least the season so far because of some other weird stuff,
we've forgotten that the defense has gotten significantly better.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
And they needed Chop Robinson to hit because he was
seen as that developmental guy where you come in and
work on things.
Speaker 7 (28:03):
Well, he's getting product, so shout out to him.
Speaker 5 (28:05):
Maybe he's a surgical magician.
Speaker 7 (28:07):
He could be the best kind of magician.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
Tyreek said earlier this week, with Tua back, it's Thomas,
strike up the band, start him in fantasy. We've been waiting, Tyrek,
So let's do some maths, Cynthia. Will the cheatah have
over eighty three receiving yards on Sunday?
Speaker 6 (28:21):
Absolutely. I don't know what noise cheatahs make, but I
think it's like a lion. They'll were rorish cheatah kind
of like chirpish. Okay, well they'll chirp. The cheetah will chirp.
But ultimately, here I looked to find something that I
could could kind of put my wrap my head around
about this defense, and there aren't a lot of defensive
backs who are doing things that would stop him.
Speaker 5 (28:40):
How about that, right, the yards after the catch.
Speaker 6 (28:43):
The speed, all of it, all the different locations that
his coach gets him in. This feels like a big
cheetah chirping game.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
So I was told by the producers I could chime
in here. I'm going to use this time to ask
for some fantasy help from the experts. It is my
two quarterbacks in this game, Tua and Kyler Murray. I've
been starting Kyler all year.
Speaker 4 (29:00):
Who do you go with?
Speaker 7 (29:02):
I would start Kyler for the rushing ups.
Speaker 6 (29:04):
I feel like, well, it's just the way that I guess.
It would depend on how your scoring goes.
Speaker 4 (29:07):
But it is six points. Okay, we're getting too deep.
Kyler Kyler. We like them both, but we like them both.
Speaker 5 (29:12):
They're both startable.
Speaker 7 (29:13):
Hey, joined me and Cynthia for NFL Fantasy lest coming
up on Monday.
Speaker 4 (29:16):
From this room.
Speaker 7 (29:16):
Lamar and the Ravens looked amazing Monday night in Tampa.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
Will they keep it rolling Sunday against Jameis Winston now
and the Browns or.
Speaker 7 (29:23):
Should they be on upset alert? Find out what we
think after a quick break.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
Yeah, unless you've been I don't know if having a
good time during the fall of the past eight years,
Lamar Jackson's arm does exist.
Speaker 7 (29:39):
The Ravens and Browns.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
Jamis Winston starting for Cleveland with Deshaun Watson out for
the year. Baltimore won five straight of these matchups in
the division. Do they make it six, Cynthia, they do?
Speaker 6 (29:49):
They make it six by seven points? Twenty six two
nineteen is what I have in this matchup. I just
want to take a moment for Lamar Jackson's arm. Just kidding,
I mean, I am actually talking about that.
Speaker 5 (29:59):
But the play action.
Speaker 6 (30:00):
Passing has been a thing of beauty for him. And
I know when you look at the stats, you're like, wow,
you know the Browns defense is actually pretty good against
play action. Oh no, no, this is not Lamar Jackson
play action that they've faced to create those stats. So
this is probably the last week that you're'd be able
to get in on any good value for Lamar Jackson
to be the MVP, if you know what I'm saying,
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and that knocking on what did happen? But if you
want to get the value, it's probably the last week
you'll be able to do that. A win seven points
a good Lamar Jackson game, especially on play action.
Speaker 3 (30:31):
I love a good agreement between Cynthia and I. We
both have a seven point margin which means we have
Jameis Winston and the Browns covering the spread baby steps
here that they keep it close.
Speaker 4 (30:41):
And it's because of Jameis Winston that I think it's
going to be close.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
He comes in last week and he executes what I
thought was the best offensive drive I really saw from
a Browns quarterback all season. Let's his playmakers like David
and Joku make a great touchdown and throw that was
not a throw Watson was even gonna make on time
to the outside there, getting Cedric Tillman involved, just ball
out of his hand quickly. We haven't seen a lot
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of Jamis Winston, and we know that he's going to
be aggressive. You said your model indicates that that adds
some volatility. Might get really good, he might be really bad.
At least it gives him a chance for a quarterback
that's really good, which they didn't have a chance for
for before.
Speaker 5 (31:18):
I miss Joe Flacco. I mean, I'm being a brown
that was really fun last year.
Speaker 3 (31:22):
I think Jameis Winston actually can do a pretty good
absolutely imitation of late career Joe Flack.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
Abolutely yeah, we do think it's a better quarterback situation.
I don't necessarily think that the Cleveland Browns are going
to win this game. I do have them scoring over
twenty points for the first time this season and getting
a twenty five to twenty one Baltimore Ravens win. The
reason I think they will score those points is because
we could celebrate hal great Lamar and the offense have
been Lamar's throwing for nine yards per attempt, But another
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good quarterback this season has been the quarterback that's playing
the Baltimore Ravens.
Speaker 7 (31:54):
They're giving up eight point three yards per attempt.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
The second most passing yards in the league, and dealing
with the other teams one is a huge issue.
Speaker 7 (32:03):
Now.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
Of course, it's not my Kevin's or Jamar Chase or
DeVante Adams.
Speaker 7 (32:07):
Those guys.
Speaker 4 (32:07):
Jerry Judy, Yeah, but it is Jerry Judy, and we'll
see David and Joku.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
Because we Marlin Humphrey injury status, they get Jalen Armor
Davis perhaps back this week, Arthur Maulette back as well.
But I'm gonna need to see it from the Ravens
quarterbacks where I have a dominant win.
Speaker 7 (32:23):
Over any team in the NFL. We're not done going
international quite yet here as we celebrate this meeting live
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Speaker 2 (32:31):
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Speaker 7 (32:44):
Is to get to another round of quick picks.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
Speaking of the g Man, they got the Steelers Monday night,
Russ was cooking against the Jets.
Speaker 7 (32:51):
What happens here?
Speaker 4 (32:52):
Greg, I think the Steelers win this game.
Speaker 3 (32:54):
I think the Giants keep it closer than the points
spread would indicate. But it's partly because Russell Wilson got
so much credit last week for his wide receivers just
making out rageous plays.
Speaker 4 (33:04):
It was almost annoying because I'm a I like Justin Fields.
Speaker 3 (33:07):
I was surprised they made this move, and I do
think the offense maybe has a higher upside here if
Russell Wilson keeps testing deep down the field in a
way and using play action like Justin Fields wasn't. But
let's be real, George Pickens making outrageous grabs. The tight
ends are making nice catches. Friarmuth had that one hander,
it would be perfect.
Speaker 7 (33:26):
If this is a nice ball.
Speaker 4 (33:28):
Hearing is no, that's a little nice ball.
Speaker 3 (33:30):
It's a nice ball, but it's like deflected and he
kind of has to slow down. There's a lot of
good balls. This will just mean it's a team sport.
Here's the Friarmuth one hander. Just give some love to
the receivers. Maybe this group is a little better than
we taught.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
Yeah, celebrate all all the success there. Titans and Lions
coming up in Motown. Cynthia squad winning four straight? Are
they making it five?
Speaker 6 (33:50):
I have a ten point win for the Lions twenty
eight to eighteen in this matchup. I need to give
a little love to Brian Branch and Kirby Joseph. We
don't necessarily talk about kind of safeties and defensive backs
on teams who are picked to win by ten points
or more, but I'm going to because this team, there
are four guys in the NFL with has at least
four interceptions, rarely only two that are on the same team. So, huh,
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put that in your pipe and smoke at Greg.
Speaker 3 (34:15):
I mean he might be a Defensive Player of the
Year candidate right now. Brian, I mean you we also
that was for.
Speaker 5 (34:21):
Taking shots at my Lions earlier.
Speaker 4 (34:23):
Y all support your line. I didn't take a shot
at the well find that you place me in. Hutchinson
is a great place, and then.
Speaker 5 (34:29):
You were like, oh, it's so hard being good Patriots man.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
The roar again. Restore it as it has been for
a few years now. The Saints and the Chargers.
Speaker 7 (34:37):
Over there at so Far Stadium.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
Spencer Rattler expected to start again if Derek Carr can't
go for New Orleans.
Speaker 7 (34:42):
I don't necessarily think that matters.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
I like the Bolts in this one by the grand
high score of sixteen points to fifteen points, because we've
saw Sean Tucker show up become the RB one in fantasy,
Javonte Williams having a huge game, eventually able to sit
out for most of the fourth quarter. And now this
Saints run defense is going to have to see JK.
Speaker 7 (35:04):
Dobbins and the Chargers.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
I think you're gonna get some Kamani videll in this
game as well, and they're gonna run the ball a
ton and there's not gonna be a lot of possessions.
Speaker 7 (35:13):
But Greg and Cynthia have barn burners compared to me.
Speaker 5 (35:16):
Yeah, what hilarious scores?
Speaker 4 (35:17):
This week.
Speaker 3 (35:19):
You know what, though, I like what you're what you're
putting out there, Patrick, that it's under one score.
Speaker 4 (35:23):
That seven and a half points is a lot.
Speaker 3 (35:25):
The Saints are getting back five or six starters this week.
They have the extra rest coming off through, so.
Speaker 5 (35:30):
They don't ever see Shaheed. You think MVS is gonna
be like, all right, let's go.
Speaker 3 (35:34):
They got a couple offensive linemen their defense. Come on,
I think I think the Chargers invite close games.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
With all due respect to Super Bowl champion Marquez Valdez Scantling, He's.
Speaker 7 (35:45):
Not Rashid Shaheed, but who is? Yeah, nobody not me.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
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for write this down here on game debut. Some predictions
for Week eight. Why don't you kick it off for
the people?
Speaker 3 (36:18):
Okay, sometimes there's a pick. There's a game that I
feel so strong about. We got to bring it back
during write this down, and it's Packers Jaguars. Actually, that
was a quick pick for you, so now I get
to talk about it. I feel so good about the
Packers in this game. Thirty seven to thirty seventeen is
the number that I have, So that's twenty points.
Speaker 4 (36:36):
The spread here is only four. This is one of
my favorite picks of the whole year.
Speaker 3 (36:40):
People thinking that the Jaguars are suddenly competent just because
they played the Patriots. No, this is the thirty second
defense in the league in total defensive efficiency.
Speaker 4 (36:49):
Matt Lafleur is gonna look.
Speaker 3 (36:51):
At these linebackers and look at these safeties, and he's
gonna help Jordan Love pick them apart. I put the
over under on Packers points around forty in this game.
They're just gonna score so much they win by way
more than four.
Speaker 6 (37:02):
All Right, Well, I'm gonna go to the game in
Denver between the Panthers and the Broncos, and I'm gonna
talk about bo Nix's rushing yards. He's gonna have more
than twenty six of them. This guy's his EPA on
scrambles is point nine to eight.
Speaker 4 (37:14):
That is a lot.
Speaker 5 (37:15):
So what's gonna happen.
Speaker 4 (37:16):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (37:17):
Actually, this could happen in the first quarter, ladies and gentlemen.
So I'm looking at his opportunity in this game.
Speaker 6 (37:22):
And even though I don't necessarily think it's gonna be
something where he's running late in the game to do
anything crazy, I just think it happens in the beginning
early often have his before halftime happiness.
Speaker 7 (37:31):
You can move on.
Speaker 2 (37:32):
You're gonna get them on this one, just like you
did with Jamiir Gibbs, because bow Nix has more scramble
yards than anybody, like anybody, and scramble opportunities.
Speaker 7 (37:40):
It's nuts.
Speaker 2 (37:41):
And I'm also gonna get some low hanging fruit. Shout
out to my dear friend Marcus Scrampt who says that
low hanging fruit tastes just as good. And for a
reception for Mark Cooper, I think is a nice easy.
It's like when you're walking down the street and somebody's
got the orange tree inside of the fence and all
of the oranges at eye level are gone. There's a
clear line that shows you how tall the people walking
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down the street are because they just grab it. That's
what I'm doing here because a Mari shows up. He
has six catches for the Buffalo Bills, including a touchdown.
I think he has a solid game in more more
than three and a hal outs to.
Speaker 4 (38:13):
Living in California. We're just picking fruit off trees, the
normal thing.
Speaker 7 (38:17):
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Speaker 2 (00:15):
Game Review for about Mercedes Benz, Patrick Claybund back here
with my dear friends Greg Rosenthal and Cynthia Freeland, who
it's very difficult to kind of get differences in picking
once the season goes on, because we learn more, we're
starting to make the same picks. But we've still managed
to differ just a little bit.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Greg, I mean we tried to the last couple of weeks.
I had a perfect week two weeks ago. Let's put
up the standings for last week. Is that what you're
trying to set me up for?
Speaker 2 (00:38):
No, I just wanted you to say that you guys
are my friends and we occasionally have So here's here's
what goes on. Greg has a one game lead now
on Cynthia, who has a three game lead over me,
and we're battling back and front.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
I think the important part is all of us have
great records over the last two weeks.
Speaker 4 (00:55):
How about that?
Speaker 5 (00:56):
Yeah, Well, we'll give you a diplomatic thing to say.
Speaker 6 (00:58):
For a guy who was literally being chased by security
through the halls of NFL Network had to say.
Speaker 4 (01:03):
Let's cut that out.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Oh so, Cowboys Niners a classic rivalry, much like the
rivalries on this show. Lately, San Franz has gotten the
best of Dallas. They've won the past three matchups, including
last year when they dismantled the Cowboys forty two to ten.
In Week ten, George Kettle had himself a day, grabbing
three receptions for three touchdowns the Randy malstat line against
the Cowboys. Teams meet up again Sunday night in Santa Clara.
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The forty nine Ers lost Brandon Ayuka last week to
a torn acl Deebo Samuel statuses in the air.
Speaker 7 (01:34):
Did the Cowboys get it done coming off the bi Greg.
Speaker 4 (01:36):
I do not think so.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
You want to buy week to restart your program, but
I think the forty nine Ers win this game twenty
six to twenty. It's a familiar matchup because of the
coaching situation in Dallas. Mike McCarthy had to be asked
during the week in a public press conference, Hey, what
do you think about your boss saying that you designed
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bad plays and that you have a bad scheme.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
I have never heard that from an owner.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
During the middle of the season, it started making me wonder,
like if they don't win this game. With all the
bad memories that they've had against the forty nine ers,
they had the playoff loss, they had the blowout loss
you mentioned last year. Patrick, I worry about what's going
on here. They're not getting healthy on defense, the offense
is stagnant. I think the forty nine ers still have
enough talent and certainly enough scheme. I think they can
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overcome their injuries on offense with a week to prepare
against this Cowboys defense, which has really been struggling.
Speaker 5 (02:31):
You have six points, I have seven points.
Speaker 6 (02:33):
I have twenty eight to twenty one, a few more
overall points projected for me as opposed to you from
Greg in this matchup. Why Well, I'm looking at this
Cowboys defense, and I'm looking at their ability to give
up Yak in.
Speaker 5 (02:44):
The passing game.
Speaker 6 (02:46):
They're just allowing guys to have tons of yards after
the catch. This has been an interesting stat about brock
Perty this year. He actually ranks last in terms of
the yardage coming the percentage of his yardage coming from Yak.
Where's for the past eight seasons that was a San
Francisco thing. So I think that trend reverses in this matchup.
And start to see that catch and run thing that
we're totally used to from this offense come back big time?
Speaker 4 (03:09):
Is it?
Speaker 5 (03:09):
George Kittle? Sure?
Speaker 4 (03:10):
Is it?
Speaker 5 (03:11):
Deebo Samuel Sure?
Speaker 4 (03:12):
Is it?
Speaker 5 (03:12):
Everyone?
Speaker 6 (03:13):
The answer is yes, anyone that's playing, They're gonna have
a good yacht day.
Speaker 7 (03:16):
I believe that they will have a good yack day.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
I don't necessarily see the high scores that you guys do.
I have a lower scoring game, a slower pace game
because the Dallas Cowboys still.
Speaker 7 (03:26):
Cannot stop the run. Greg mentioned the bye week.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
They had an entire offseason to figure out how to
approach the opposition running the ball.
Speaker 7 (03:32):
Here's what they've done.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
They are dead last and rushing efficiency, dead last against
under center runs, and dead last thirty two in three
categories in design runs. Jordan Mason second in the league
in yards and carries. Again, if they couldn't do it
in an entire offseason, I don't know what the bye
week is going to do. We are all aboard on
the forty nine ers against the Dallas Cowboys. Nemaus get
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us Cowboys.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
There are no Cowboys fans left anymore, so they can't
meme us.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Both considered Super Bowl contenders coming into the season as
where the Bill who made a new acquisition last week
who had an.
Speaker 7 (04:07):
Immediate impact not pictured in there was a celebration. Ever,
I going to hug Mark Cooper.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Him like feeling uncomfortable at all the love coming from
his teammates. The Bills are the Seahawks at Luomenfield, Josh
Allen against Gino Smith Seattle coming off a big win
in Atlanta.
Speaker 7 (04:21):
Do they keep that going at home?
Speaker 6 (04:23):
Cynthia, I think they keep it closer, But I still
have Buffalo winning this matchup twenty five to twenty three.
When I'm looking at Josh Allen this season and what
he's been doing, let's just say the number two hundred.
Speaker 5 (04:34):
And eighty six.
Speaker 6 (04:34):
That's how many consecutive passes that Josh Allen has thrown
without that other thing that happens. I know sometimes Buffalo people,
we are Midwesterners.
Speaker 5 (04:42):
I'm a Midwesterner. They're Midwesterners.
Speaker 6 (04:44):
There.
Speaker 5 (04:44):
That's the highest compliment I can give you. You can't
jinx it.
Speaker 6 (04:47):
So that thing that's the opposite of completing a pass
but not incomplete anyways, that hasn't happened. It is the
longest current streak in football. It is the longest streak
in Bill's history.
Speaker 5 (04:56):
That has been a.
Speaker 6 (04:57):
Huge reason why this team is so great. And the
quick passes that is where they've really gotten things going,
especially on first and second day. That's going to continue
because that is a one way to really target the
Seattle defense.
Speaker 7 (05:08):
Yeah, you don't want to do that thing that hasn't happened.
To quote my dad, that thing.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
There's three things that can happen when you throw the ball,
and two of them are bad, and one of those
is the thing that Cynthia is talking about that.
Speaker 7 (05:18):
We're not talking about.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
I also have a close Bills win twenty six to
twenty five because of Josh Allen. The Falcons offense was
an issue for the Seahawks in the run game, but
in the passing game they were kind of limited because
Kirk Cousins isn't necessarily the most mobile.
Speaker 7 (05:31):
So you go from defending Kirk Cousins to.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
Having to deal with this guy out on the edge
where he's number two in the league in passing yardage
on the run that's running at over eight miles an
hour and throwing the ball. He's also in the top
ten in terms of scramble yards. I think that's tougher
for Seattle. So I've got a Bills win here.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
Great, man, this is messed up because the Seahawks were
three point underdogs last week.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
I picked them. I got it.
Speaker 5 (05:55):
I know that's how you got up on them.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
I just figured one of you guys would take him. Here,
we have the same type of score, thread in the needle,
A close Bills win twenty nine to twenty seven. Yeah,
because it's like, kill your darlings. I love both these teams.
I picked the Bills to win the super Bowl this year.
It's partly because of the pass rush. So let's look
at what Greg Russo and Ed Oliver and this whole
group as a team is doing. They have a team passer.
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What we all have two point scores.
Speaker 5 (06:18):
I just thought that you were gonna like third person.
Speaker 6 (06:21):
Let's look at what Greg has said about Yeah, I'm not.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
If I win the picks competition for a third straight year,
I might start going third person all the time.
Speaker 4 (06:29):
But for now, I want to talk.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
About this defense because I do think against the Seattle
offensive line, that's the difference. It shows that we don't
feel that strong because we have the Seahawks covering all
three of us the three point spread, and yet we
don't have them winning.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
I think the biggest factor there is DK Metcalf's health,
and yes, and if that was the other way, I
would have been comfortable same picking the Seattle Seahawks instead
Seattle Meme Away.
Speaker 7 (06:53):
Moving to the Eagles, they've been able to win two straight.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Last week, Sinquan got some sweet revenge against his old team.
Speaker 7 (07:00):
He's done it again. The Eagles and Bengals.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Once upon a time long ago, Burrow and LSU bested
Hurts and Oklahoma in the Peach Bowl. They haven't met
in the professional ranks yet, so this is their first
time since.
Speaker 7 (07:13):
He's won three of their last four games. Who's winning
this one.
Speaker 6 (07:15):
Cynthia, You know, I was a little surprised when I
saw the outcome of my model in this one. But
I have the Eagles just the one point win, twenty
four to twenty three, in part.
Speaker 5 (07:24):
Because of that guy who we just saw. Do I
think it's going to be one hundred and seventy six
yards and a bajillion touchdowns in this game? I mean,
it could very well be.
Speaker 6 (07:31):
However, I think it's more about the consistency on early
downs so that Jalen Hurts has a chance to really
do the thing that he does best, which is figure
out all the different pass catching options that he has
on every single down.
Speaker 5 (07:42):
I know that Trey Hendrickson is there. I know there
are some o line questions in terms of health.
Speaker 6 (07:46):
However, Saquon running to the other side gives a lot
of help to Jalen Hurts and the offense. So for me,
it's the run game, in the stability in the run
game that tips the scales in the favor of the Eagles.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
And we have a similar difference in terms of one
point and a similar win in the Philadelphia Eagles. And
it's side a similar reason because the Bengals run defense,
while it has improved over the last few weeks, during
this run not enough. I got the Eagles twenty one
to twenty because I went to see just how much
the Bengals run defense had improved over the past few weeks, considering.
Speaker 7 (08:16):
The fact that Saquan is coming to town.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
So weeks one through four they were dead last in
rush defense success rate, and since then they've climbed all
the way up to still being in the bottom ten.
Speaker 7 (08:26):
They've gone from the opponent being.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Successful forty nine percent of the time to forty six
percent of the time. I don't think that's enough against
Saquon and company.
Speaker 4 (08:33):
Correct, I love me some home favorite, Just Greg, let's go.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
It has been a couple weeks actually since I had
to do it, Just Greg, But I have the Bengals
winning this game. I have them covering this game twenty
four to twenty. I'm not feeling comfortable about Jalen Hurts
in this Eagles offense right now because Jalen Hurts isn't
feeling comfortable. I know they won twenty eight to three,
but Fred Johnson, who's out there playing left tackle, is
not starter level at the NFL level. This is a
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good Bengals pass rush. Even when Jalen Hurts has been
protect lately. He's just kind of sitting there and waiting
and you said, like trying to make a decision, and
then he throws it to AJ Brown and that works
pretty well.
Speaker 4 (09:11):
AJ Brown is just amazing.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
But I look at these two teams and I thought
the pointspread was going to be higher in this game
because I just think the Bengals are a better team
right now than the Philadelphia Eagles, So I like them
to win and maybe even buy more than four points.
Speaker 7 (09:24):
We'll see. All right, let's go from there.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
This guy or that guy Cynthia, which star more likely
to have over seventy four receiving yards in this game?
Speaker 7 (09:32):
Is it aj Brown or is it Jamar Chase?
Speaker 6 (09:34):
It's both, but of the two, I think that Jamar
Chase has more yards in general. While I'm looking at
this opportunity here against the defense, and yes the Eagles
they have upticked that sack number big time, I still
think that this is Jamar Chase's yack. I mean, he
said it himself this week. He's like, you know, he's
gonna let let all of his performance do the talking
for him for how valuable he is.
Speaker 5 (09:56):
Right, he answered it. You should google it.
Speaker 6 (09:57):
It's very funny, meaning pay the man, which is what
they absolutely should and will do. But in this case,
I think it's going to be around night yards. So
I have a lot more than seventy four.
Speaker 7 (10:06):
Yeah, a lot of great receivers in this game. I
think they should pay Jamar Chase.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
I think they should pay t Higgins because it's fun
to see these guys on the field. At the same time,
Bears are the commanders. Jayden Daniels has been dealing with
a rib injury. If he can't go, Barcus Mariota gets
the start. Who do you like in this potential battle
of top picks?
Speaker 3 (10:22):
Grew Well, I like them both, but I like what
Caleb Williams is doing with the up tempo Bears passing attack.
I have the Bears winning this game twenty to seventeen.
I'm operating under the assumption Jaden Daniels isn't playing. I
would flip it if he is. But let's talk about
that up tempo game. Caleb Williams in the last couple
of weeks, including the game in London, was playing so
fast and this is the part of the game where
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maybe a younger quarterback isn't having to think quite as much.
You're dictating the matchups, and he's showing that he's very
good at the line of scrimmage, being able to figure
out and go fast, fast fast.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
Our friend Steve Weisch on the NFL.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
Daily podcast talk to someone within the organization and they said,
it really took a few weeks to figure out what
he likes to do.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
And Caleb Williams, he likes to go fast.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
We know he's accurate I mean, just look at that
seamball there to Cole Comet, the weapons are all healthy
coming off of a bye week, So yes, if there's
no Jayden Daniels, I think it's a lower scoring game.
Speaker 4 (11:16):
And I like the Bears to win in that scenario.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
A similar situation where I agree, I appreciate Caleb's contributions. Again,
a surgical magician literally doctor strange in that capacity, I've
got a Bears win as well by two points for me,
mainly because of the Bears defense. I recognize Caleb's playing better,
but considering what this defense has done, and I think
they'll be even healthier after the buy. Now, there was
Nojakwan Brisker, Kyler Gordon as of Thursday, but rotational guys
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like Jacob Martin and Zach Pickens full participants as well.
The lowest opposing quarterback rating allowed in the league, whether
it's Marcus or Jayden. I think the Bears defense makes
it tough and that gives me a confidence in a
two point edge.
Speaker 6 (11:55):
Cynthia Well, I'd like to have a surgeon that's magical
as opposed to a magician that's a surgeon. Anyway, either way, here,
I'm taking Washington here twenty four to twenty three. I
am operating under the assumption that we will see Jade
and Daniels. I do believe that I understand that this
is a rib injury, and I understand that's very painful.
But I also know that he's got this one circled since,
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like last.
Speaker 5 (12:17):
You know, the very minute you.
Speaker 6 (12:19):
Walk down, like whenever we schedule released in.
Speaker 5 (12:21):
May, Revenge game not Revenge.
Speaker 7 (12:23):
But they doubted me.
Speaker 5 (12:24):
They doubted me. They thought I was number two. I
thought all the world one. I felt, oh no.
Speaker 6 (12:29):
But I do think that this is an important one
for him, probably emotionally. His coach has nothing but good
things to say about him. When I'm looking at his
ability to connect with Terry McLaurin specifically, I know you
talked about how great those offensive backs are for the Bears,
but you also talked about they're not practicing. They weren't
practicing this week for Kyler or Gordon, for Jakwan Brisker.
Speaker 5 (12:46):
So Jalen Johnson is just one man.
Speaker 4 (12:49):
You know.
Speaker 5 (12:49):
He can't patrol the whole field. And I do understand that.
Speaker 6 (12:52):
You know, the other guys have been great and stepped
up in replacement, but This is a prime number, baby,
and probably won't be by the time it starts, because
I imagine it's gonna change a Ruski it. But you know,
I think it's Washington unfortunately for Bears.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
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Terms and conditions apply. Colts and the Texans top two
teams in the AFC South. When they met back in
Week one. Houston won it by two, twenty nine to
twenty seven.
Speaker 7 (13:32):
It feels like forever ago. What happens this.
Speaker 6 (13:34):
Time in Week A, Cynthia a Begger win for Houston
is what I have forecast twenty six to nineteen in
this matchup.
Speaker 5 (13:40):
I want to say something about how CJ. Stroud has
been playing.
Speaker 6 (13:43):
I did a lot of homework on Stroud specifically, and
he's kind of been like quarterbacking two point Oho.
Speaker 5 (13:48):
There's like three steps one. Step one, be really good.
Speaker 6 (13:50):
You don't necessarily need to be offensive rookie of the
year good, but you do need to be really good.
Speaker 5 (13:54):
Step two.
Speaker 6 (13:55):
Then maybe what you're gonna do is you're gonna have
defenses try to really have things that they do against you.
Speaker 5 (14:00):
Specifically, we saw it last week with the Packers.
Speaker 6 (14:03):
They didn't even blitz it, but they brought the heat
with four or fewer pass rushers and that got to him.
Speaker 5 (14:07):
All right, now we learn something. Now it's c J.
Speaker 6 (14:10):
Stroud's turn to evolve into his next iteration of him.
So all these bad things are seeing happen that is
not gonna be the case in this matchup.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
I love that, and I love the Texans in general.
I didn't like seeing all that negative c J.
Speaker 4 (14:22):
Stroud.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
You know tape, let's put something positive about the Texans.
They win thirty three to nineteen, and it's partly because
c J. Stroud's gonna hand the ball off to Joe
Mixon and the offensive line that's so bad at pass
protection doesn't have to worry about it as much.
Speaker 4 (14:35):
This is the biggest.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
Boom or bust offense, and especially boom or bust running.
Speaker 4 (14:42):
Game in the entire league.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
But when it's boom or bust, Patrick, what do you
think happens against the Colts defense.
Speaker 7 (14:47):
Yeah, it's the boom, it's boom.
Speaker 4 (14:49):
I mean Joe Mixon.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
He can have one, one, negative one and then he'll
have forty And I think that's what's gonna happen in
this game.
Speaker 4 (14:56):
Three or four different times.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
They end up racking up big rushing yards with those
quick hitting runs where it really gets up the seam
and I'm going thirty three to seventeen.
Speaker 4 (15:05):
It's a get right game for the Texans offense.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
All it's unanimous. I've got the Houston Texans as well
in this game. A bounce back game, not just for CJ. Stroud,
who had eighty six yards passing, but for Tank Dell
as well, because when I think about the Colts, I
think about Gus Bradley's defense going out there and having
a similar type scheme and plan week after week after week,
and Cynthia outlined you got to be a little bit
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different to get c J. Stroud off the edge and
back in week one, there was a lot of Tank
Dell getting involved. He also had two carries in the
game seven targets. I know it's been a slow start,
but I think without Nico Collins, this is the game
for TANKDLL to come out there and have a big
game against a division rival.
Speaker 7 (15:44):
More to come here on game debut. Up next to another.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
Big matchup for the top spot in a vision going
down in Tampa. Baker in the Bucks versus Kirko Chains again.
They scored a billion points last time. Who's ready to
claim the South? Our answer right after this, Oh, that
was the most fun I've had on a Thursday night
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since Baker Mayfield's epic win across the street at so
Far Stadium a couple of years ago.
Speaker 7 (16:12):
That was a walk off win.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
In Week five for the Falcons against the Bucks. We
got a big rematch Sunday for first place in the South.
Tampa will not have Chris Godwin unfortunately, or Mike Evans
who gets it done here.
Speaker 6 (16:24):
Cynthia Well, that shifted my score completely. I have at
Landa winning this one twenty three to twenty. It's not
great when you have to say, like these two guys
who are everything to your offense are gone. But on
the other side, you need to sit down for the
stat I know drew our producer really likes it too.
Do you know that last week was the first time
in Bajon Robinson's career as a pro that he had
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one hundred or more rushing yards and a rushing touchdown
in the same game that.
Speaker 7 (16:48):
I had no idea.
Speaker 5 (16:49):
That's wild, Like, I don't that's that's how a good
mic drop thing.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
Anyways, he had security should be going after Arthur Smith
for that.
Speaker 4 (16:57):
I mean, that's ridiculous.
Speaker 6 (16:58):
I mean, that's that's a wild stat It's pretty incredible.
Speaker 5 (17:02):
But this is the difference maker in this game.
Speaker 6 (17:03):
I think both defenses have some big question marks, but
with all of those pieces missing on offense, the run
game and the stability the run game can give you
the ball control. It just means maybe he has another
one hundred yard and one rushing touchdown.
Speaker 5 (17:16):
Wild that's the first one.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
It's something that we've been saying for most of this
season that this is not the traditional run.
Speaker 7 (17:21):
Stopping Todd Bowles defense.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
I have Atlanta winning this one mainly again, it's a
lot to overcome with the injuries, and the Falcons.
Speaker 7 (17:29):
Had that big win.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
With the entire facility available for Tampa Bay and now
they go back in and this offensive piece is just
hurt and including Darnell Mooney is back. Folks, you want
to talk about a stat line on Thursday Night football,
Darnell Mooney had sixteen targets. He had nine catches. This season,
he has thirty two catches. Eleven of them have been
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on third down, third and Darnell is on the way
for Tampa.
Speaker 4 (17:55):
Bayker, Okay, I think this is a tough one.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
I don't like when they play their whole season series
within just a couple of weeks and it's over this
the biggest game, and yet there's something about me. It's
just a hunch that the Bucks get this wrong. And
you might say you want more than a hunch, but
let's go just Greg Nation, My hunches have been like
one or two games better than these two over about
a two hundred and eighty games sample size. So this
is a pick against the Atlanta Falcons defense.
Speaker 4 (18:19):
Let's go to that. Let's go to the tape for
some bad Falcons defense. They don't have anything.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
Yeah, that was the point, Like, it's not really much
of a difference that I get like one or two
games up on you guys, but I like to brag
about it. The numbers are ridiculous for how bad this
pass rush is dead last in the league in pressure rate,
despite the fact that they blitz at the tenth highest
rate in the league. So they're sending extra guys and
they still get no pressures.
Speaker 4 (18:45):
You know how many sacks they have this season.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
Six, that's like a light day's work for Aiden Hutchinson.
Give me a break with this pass rush. I think
the scheme for the Bucks is good. Baker Mayfield's up
and down. We're due for an up. Let's go Trey Palmer,
Let's go Bucks defense. And I just think it. They
don't deserve to win the division this early.
Speaker 5 (19:03):
The Falcons catch us stray. Why go to remind me
that A Hudginson isn't playing?
Speaker 3 (19:08):
Oh sorry, yeah, that was well. He he's the guy
with five or six sex in game.
Speaker 4 (19:11):
Just me worked.
Speaker 7 (19:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
Anyway, we're gonna sort everything out here and make sure
everybody's okay.
Speaker 7 (19:16):
The team everyone looking up at.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
Right now, the Chiefs, of course, Kansas City the only
remaining unbeaten. If you're wondering VIT's seeing Jack Jones going
to the end zone. This is the last time they
haven't lost a game since Christmas, and it was against
the Raiders back in December, Antonio Pierce's squad win an
arrowhead sucker punched. The Chiefs went in twenty to fourteen
to Spight am O'Connell throwing for sixty two yards. Since then,
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mahomes squad has won twelve straight games, including a game
where they hoisted the Lombardi Trophy. So that gets us
too quick picks here on game debut, A big rematch,
well big for one day between the Raiders and the Chiefs.
A and O'Connell out with a thumb injury, so incomes Gardner.
Speaker 7 (19:54):
Will Gardner shock the world?
Speaker 4 (19:55):
Greg he will not.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
Chiefs win this game twenty four to thirteen with their
new wide receiver DeAndre Hopkins getting it done for Patrick Mahomes.
Maybe it's not a huge package of plays, although the
way he's been.
Speaker 4 (20:08):
In different offenses throughout his career.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
I would expect he's out there thirty forty STAPs and
certainly in the red zone. Patrick Mahomes needs someone that
can catch a ball in tight windows where he knows
he can be accurate, and just his receiver is gonna
make a play. Justin Watson nice player, not that guy.
DeAndre Hopkins definitely that guy. They get it done and
they remember that loss to the Raiders. They do not
want to let it happen again.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
So there it is Raiders fans, although maybe you feel
the same way we do it this point, the Packers
and Jags down in do ball.
Speaker 7 (20:37):
Green Bay has won three in a row. The Jags
to play back to back games in London. They flow back.
They don't have no buy Cynthia. Can they overcome that?
Speaker 6 (20:45):
No. I actually have a closer game than maybe you
might think. Twenty six to twenty two for Green Bay.
I'm looking at Jordan Love and how well he does
when he doesn't get blitzed. I mean, the numbers are staggering,
like one hundred and fourteen passer rating, eleven touchdowns.
Speaker 5 (21:00):
He's right up the top of the league when nobody
blitzes him.
Speaker 6 (21:03):
And it's very unlikely that this team, because they're really
The strategy for the Jags has been to sort of
protect a lot of their secondary so you can't blitz.
You can't leave them on that like less number situation
when you got all these.
Speaker 5 (21:16):
Different pass catchers.
Speaker 6 (21:17):
So they're likely to not blitz a lot in this one,
which means we're gonna get good Jordan Love not interception.
Speaker 5 (21:22):
Jordan Love. Packers win all.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
Right, Gregson got the score getting really SOLDI he's thirty
seven to seventeen. They're the passers at the Broncos at
mile high. Bryce Young starting for Carolina. A rough one
as the youngster has to go against the number one
passing efficiency defense in the league. That's why I've got
the Broncos here eighteen to ten. But let's talk about
that Denver Broncos offense, mainly Javonte Williams, who didn't get
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to finish an incredible performance against the Saints because they
got the garbage time so early backups came in. So
here's another chance for the tackle breaking monster Javonte to
go up against a bad rushing defense in the NFC
South for him to try to feast upon them. Time
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first touchdown score odds, it's three gents at the top
breasts Davante and Garrett Wilson, followed by Ramandre Stevenson's not
getting a lot of carries in the red zone specifically,
and then Antonio Gibson. So let's discuss this big in
some places. Matchup in Foxboro, Aaron Rodgers and the Jets
have lost four straight.
Speaker 7 (22:25):
Do they turn it around? Cynthia?
Speaker 4 (22:27):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (22:28):
Is it a turnaround?
Speaker 7 (22:30):
Do they beat the Patriots?
Speaker 6 (22:30):
They beat the Patriots twenty five to seventeen. It's a
pretty big win by eight points. But I want to
talk about DeVante Adams because when you trade for someone
and you make this much noise about it, we absolutely
need to break down his first game and he lined
up in the slot on fifty what he played ninety
six percent of snaps, so I guess his hamstring's okay.
And he lined up in the slot fifty one percent
of the time. That is actually the highest for him
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since twenty sixteen. Back we were all just children and
he was playing in Green Bay with Aaron Rodgers. What
happened there, Well, he didn't really make much noise on either.
He did get a bunch of a decent amount of
targets in this game. However, I think that it takes
a minute for all the chemistry to come back. And
when you're looking at this defense, I'm sorry they're banged up.
Speaker 5 (23:10):
I don't think they're soft. I just think that they're
banged up.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
Yeah, sometimes things take tom sometimes they take longer than
two and a half seconds, which is how long it's
taking Aaron Rodgers to get rid of the football, especially
when he plays the team with a decent pass rush.
Speaker 7 (23:22):
He is not playing one. This week.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
The New England Patriots bottom ten in terms of pressure percentage.
And you look back at these few games, look at
the pocket for Trevor Lawrence to throw this deep ball
to BTJ and Christian Zalis played a solid game, but
it's hard to cover. Quarterbacks are able to just stand
back there and throw the ball like this, and imagine
Aaron Rodgers doing that. I don't have a big Jets
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win because I don't necessarily trust the Jets or think
they're a very good football team eighteen seventeen, but I
do think if you can't rush Aaron Rodgers, then it's
going to be hard to beat Aaron Roch.
Speaker 5 (23:53):
Okay, so we seventeen's hilarious.
Speaker 4 (23:55):
We do have a memeller.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
It feels like eighteen seventeen, that's the last time the
Patriots were good. But I have the Patriots covering, so
you got that go And for you Patriots. Two of
the three of us have you covering it's twenty four
to twenty. Let's just talk about Drake May because I've
heard talk in New England like, yeah, Drake May's playing well,
but everything else is a disaster.
Speaker 4 (24:15):
Don't lose the forest for the trees.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
Like this organization, the defense, the head coach, everything's disorganized.
Speaker 4 (24:21):
None of it matters.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
Drake May is the only thing that matters about this
entire organization. This season is a full on success. If
Drake May is a real dude. I think he's a
real dude. Through two games, he is looking like a
real dude. Whether the coaches last or the teammates last,
it doesn't matter because finding a franchise quarterback is the
only thing that matters.
Speaker 4 (24:43):
Drake May. I love you.
Speaker 6 (24:44):
I would like to put up a little meter of
how many times do you sort of accidentally throw shade
at me as a Lions fan who actually hasn't had
a team that's been good in a long time. Eighteen
seventy you're a Patriots fan. Okay, you got like all
these rings on your finger from whatever that is?
Speaker 5 (24:59):
Two for you, sir.
Speaker 4 (25:00):
They literally won the Super Bowl like six years ago.
So that's a fair point.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
Yeah, yeah, so there it is. It's meme alert and
Greg once again it gets to bemoan. Oh the troubles
that he has seen as a fan. Oh, I'm sorry
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in Miami to take on the Dolphins to a tongue
Valoa expected to play, and that's the main reason I
think he gets the Fins back on track with They
win it by one, twenty one to twenty just because
the offense looks so much different, guys, when it's to
(25:46):
a tongue of Valoa back there playing quarter. In fact,
let's remind everybody just how quickly he gets the ball
into the hands of his playmakers. And yes, the reason
that I didn't necessarily believe the Chargers were going to
beat the Arizona Cardinals last year. Last week was because
the Chargers don't make big plays. Well, I think Jalen Waddle,
Raheem Moster, Tyreek Hill. I know it hasn't been this year,
(26:09):
but traditionally those are three guys that can make big
plays at Devon han In.
Speaker 7 (26:13):
I think it's a Finns win break.
Speaker 3 (26:15):
I have gone back and forth on this game more
than any game all season long, and yet somehow I
ended up on the Dolphins winning by ten points. I
just feel like it's like a blowout either way. I
think the Dolphins running game is why I kind of
believe in Tua's return, because everything else about the Dolphins
has been getting better. Let's to show the running game.
Please don't look at me anymore. You guys are laughing
(26:37):
that I made it a ten point win. Someone's gonna
win this game in a blowout. They just feel like
teams that are gonna collapse if they fall behind. But
this running game over the last two weeks has been awesome.
The last couple weeks, over one hundred and seventy five
yards one ninety three against the Pats, one to eighty
eight against the Colts, and the Cardinals rush defense is
one of the worst in the league. So if the
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running blocking is getting going, everyone's healthy. Raheem Moster is back,
Jalen Wrights playing great eight chan is there. I think
that supports to a tugbailoa where he doesn't need to
be the hero, and it's a great matchup against the Cardinals.
Speaker 6 (27:11):
Well, you have a huge win for the Dolphins and
you have a very narrow win for the Dolphins. I
will be Goldilocks and go right in between. I have
Miami winning twenty five to twenty one in this one,
and sneakily, this front for the Miami Dolphins has had
a lot of pressure. Now it hasn't always resulted in
a sack, but it's like almost forty four percent of
the time they're getting after the opposing quarterback. Kyler Murray
(27:32):
is a special type of different sort of dude back there.
But I want to give this this defense a little
bit more credit. And I also want to talk about
Chop Robinson. I love his name, and he has the
second highest pressure.
Speaker 5 (27:43):
Rate among rookie so that's fun.
Speaker 6 (27:46):
And when I'm looking at what could potentially happen in
this matchup, I do think like we have, potentially, at
least the season so far because of some other weird stuff,
we've forgotten that the defense has gotten significantly better.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
And they needed Chop Robinson to hit because he was
seen as that developmental guy where you come in and
work on things.
Speaker 7 (28:03):
Well, he's getting product, so shout out to him.
Speaker 5 (28:05):
Maybe he's a surgical magician.
Speaker 7 (28:07):
He could be the best kind of magician.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
Tyreek said earlier this week, with Tua back, it's Thomas,
strike up the band, start him in fantasy. We've been waiting, Tyrek,
So let's do some maths, Cynthia. Will the cheatah have
over eighty three receiving yards on Sunday?
Speaker 6 (28:21):
Absolutely. I don't know what noise cheatahs make, but I
think it's like a lion. They'll were rorish cheatah kind
of like chirpish. Okay, well they'll chirp. The cheetah will chirp.
But ultimately, here I looked to find something that I
could could kind of put my wrap my head around
about this defense, and there aren't a lot of defensive
backs who are doing things that would stop him.
Speaker 5 (28:40):
How about that, right, the yards after the catch.
Speaker 6 (28:43):
The speed, all of it, all the different locations that
his coach gets him in. This feels like a big
cheetah chirping game.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
So I was told by the producers I could chime
in here. I'm going to use this time to ask
for some fantasy help from the experts. It is my
two quarterbacks in this game, Tua and Kyler Murray. I've
been starting Kyler all year.
Speaker 4 (29:00):
Who do you go with?
Speaker 7 (29:02):
I would start Kyler for the rushing ups.
Speaker 6 (29:04):
I feel like, well, it's just the way that I guess.
It would depend on how your scoring goes.
Speaker 4 (29:07):
But it is six points. Okay, we're getting too deep.
Kyler Kyler. We like them both, but we like them both.
Speaker 5 (29:12):
They're both startable.
Speaker 7 (29:13):
Hey, joined me and Cynthia for NFL Fantasy lest coming
up on Monday.
Speaker 4 (29:16):
From this room.
Speaker 7 (29:16):
Lamar and the Ravens looked amazing Monday night in Tampa.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
Will they keep it rolling Sunday against Jameis Winston now
and the Browns or.
Speaker 7 (29:23):
Should they be on upset alert? Find out what we
think after a quick break.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
Yeah, unless you've been I don't know if having a
good time during the fall of the past eight years,
Lamar Jackson's arm does exist.
Speaker 7 (29:39):
The Ravens and Browns.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
Jamis Winston starting for Cleveland with Deshaun Watson out for
the year. Baltimore won five straight of these matchups in
the division. Do they make it six, Cynthia, they do?
Speaker 6 (29:49):
They make it six by seven points? Twenty six two
nineteen is what I have in this matchup. I just
want to take a moment for Lamar Jackson's arm. Just kidding,
I mean, I am actually talking about that.
Speaker 5 (29:59):
But the play action.
Speaker 6 (30:00):
Passing has been a thing of beauty for him. And
I know when you look at the stats, you're like, wow,
you know the Browns defense is actually pretty good against
play action. Oh no, no, this is not Lamar Jackson
play action that they've faced to create those stats. So
this is probably the last week that you're'd be able
to get in on any good value for Lamar Jackson
to be the MVP, if you know what I'm saying,
(30:22):
and that knocking on what did happen? But if you
want to get the value, it's probably the last week
you'll be able to do that. A win seven points
a good Lamar Jackson game, especially on play action.
Speaker 3 (30:31):
I love a good agreement between Cynthia and I. We
both have a seven point margin which means we have
Jameis Winston and the Browns covering the spread baby steps
here that they keep it close.
Speaker 4 (30:41):
And it's because of Jameis Winston that I think it's
going to be close.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
He comes in last week and he executes what I
thought was the best offensive drive I really saw from
a Browns quarterback all season. Let's his playmakers like David
and Joku make a great touchdown and throw that was
not a throw Watson was even gonna make on time
to the outside there, getting Cedric Tillman involved, just ball
out of his hand quickly. We haven't seen a lot
(31:05):
of Jamis Winston, and we know that he's going to
be aggressive. You said your model indicates that that adds
some volatility. Might get really good, he might be really bad.
At least it gives him a chance for a quarterback
that's really good, which they didn't have a chance for
for before.
Speaker 5 (31:18):
I miss Joe Flacco. I mean, I'm being a brown
that was really fun last year.
Speaker 3 (31:22):
I think Jameis Winston actually can do a pretty good
absolutely imitation of late career Joe Flack.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
Abolutely yeah, we do think it's a better quarterback situation.
I don't necessarily think that the Cleveland Browns are going
to win this game. I do have them scoring over
twenty points for the first time this season and getting
a twenty five to twenty one Baltimore Ravens win. The
reason I think they will score those points is because
we could celebrate hal great Lamar and the offense have
been Lamar's throwing for nine yards per attempt, But another
(31:49):
good quarterback this season has been the quarterback that's playing
the Baltimore Ravens.
Speaker 7 (31:54):
They're giving up eight point three yards per attempt.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
The second most passing yards in the league, and dealing
with the other teams one is a huge issue.
Speaker 7 (32:03):
Now.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
Of course, it's not my Kevin's or Jamar Chase or
DeVante Adams.
Speaker 7 (32:07):
Those guys.
Speaker 4 (32:07):
Jerry Judy, Yeah, but it is Jerry Judy, and we'll
see David and Joku.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
Because we Marlin Humphrey injury status, they get Jalen Armor
Davis perhaps back this week, Arthur Maulette back as well.
But I'm gonna need to see it from the Ravens
quarterbacks where I have a dominant win.
Speaker 7 (32:23):
Over any team in the NFL. We're not done going
international quite yet here as we celebrate this meeting live
for Munich.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
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Speaker 7 (32:44):
Is to get to another round of quick picks.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
Speaking of the g Man, they got the Steelers Monday night,
Russ was cooking against the Jets.
Speaker 7 (32:51):
What happens here?
Speaker 4 (32:52):
Greg, I think the Steelers win this game.
Speaker 3 (32:54):
I think the Giants keep it closer than the points
spread would indicate. But it's partly because Russell Wilson got
so much credit last week for his wide receivers just
making out rageous plays.
Speaker 4 (33:04):
It was almost annoying because I'm a I like Justin Fields.
Speaker 3 (33:07):
I was surprised they made this move, and I do
think the offense maybe has a higher upside here if
Russell Wilson keeps testing deep down the field in a
way and using play action like Justin Fields wasn't. But
let's be real, George Pickens making outrageous grabs. The tight
ends are making nice catches. Friarmuth had that one hander,
it would be perfect.
Speaker 7 (33:26):
If this is a nice ball.
Speaker 4 (33:28):
Hearing is no, that's a little nice ball.
Speaker 3 (33:30):
It's a nice ball, but it's like deflected and he
kind of has to slow down. There's a lot of
good balls. This will just mean it's a team sport.
Here's the Friarmuth one hander. Just give some love to
the receivers. Maybe this group is a little better than
we taught.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
Yeah, celebrate all all the success there. Titans and Lions
coming up in Motown. Cynthia squad winning four straight? Are
they making it five?
Speaker 6 (33:50):
I have a ten point win for the Lions twenty
eight to eighteen in this matchup. I need to give
a little love to Brian Branch and Kirby Joseph. We
don't necessarily talk about kind of safeties and defensive backs
on teams who are picked to win by ten points
or more, but I'm going to because this team, there
are four guys in the NFL with has at least
four interceptions, rarely only two that are on the same team. So, huh,
(34:13):
put that in your pipe and smoke at Greg.
Speaker 3 (34:15):
I mean he might be a Defensive Player of the
Year candidate right now. Brian, I mean you we also
that was for.
Speaker 5 (34:21):
Taking shots at my Lions earlier.
Speaker 4 (34:23):
Y all support your line. I didn't take a shot
at the well find that you place me in. Hutchinson
is a great place, and then.
Speaker 5 (34:29):
You were like, oh, it's so hard being good Patriots man.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
The roar again. Restore it as it has been for
a few years now. The Saints and the Chargers.
Speaker 7 (34:37):
Over there at so Far Stadium.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
Spencer Rattler expected to start again if Derek Carr can't
go for New Orleans.
Speaker 7 (34:42):
I don't necessarily think that matters.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
I like the Bolts in this one by the grand
high score of sixteen points to fifteen points, because we've
saw Sean Tucker show up become the RB one in fantasy,
Javonte Williams having a huge game, eventually able to sit
out for most of the fourth quarter. And now this
Saints run defense is going to have to see JK.
Speaker 7 (35:04):
Dobbins and the Chargers.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
I think you're gonna get some Kamani videll in this
game as well, and they're gonna run the ball a
ton and there's not gonna be a lot of possessions.
Speaker 7 (35:13):
But Greg and Cynthia have barn burners compared to me.
Speaker 5 (35:16):
Yeah, what hilarious scores?
Speaker 4 (35:17):
This week.
Speaker 3 (35:19):
You know what, though, I like what you're what you're
putting out there, Patrick, that it's under one score.
Speaker 4 (35:23):
That seven and a half points is a lot.
Speaker 3 (35:25):
The Saints are getting back five or six starters this week.
They have the extra rest coming off through, so.
Speaker 5 (35:30):
They don't ever see Shaheed. You think MVS is gonna
be like, all right, let's go.
Speaker 3 (35:34):
They got a couple offensive linemen their defense. Come on,
I think I think the Chargers invite close games.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
With all due respect to Super Bowl champion Marquez Valdez Scantling, He's.
Speaker 7 (35:45):
Not Rashid Shaheed, but who is? Yeah, nobody not me.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
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Steve Mariucci, Cynthia Freeland and the rest of the crew
get you set with NFL Game Day Morning. The guys
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(36:12):
for write this down here on game debut. Some predictions
for Week eight. Why don't you kick it off for
the people?
Speaker 3 (36:18):
Okay, sometimes there's a pick. There's a game that I
feel so strong about. We got to bring it back
during write this down, and it's Packers Jaguars. Actually, that
was a quick pick for you, so now I get
to talk about it. I feel so good about the
Packers in this game. Thirty seven to thirty seventeen is
the number that I have, So that's twenty points.
Speaker 4 (36:36):
The spread here is only four. This is one of
my favorite picks of the whole year.
Speaker 3 (36:40):
People thinking that the Jaguars are suddenly competent just because
they played the Patriots. No, this is the thirty second
defense in the league in total defensive efficiency.
Speaker 4 (36:49):
Matt Lafleur is gonna look.
Speaker 3 (36:51):
At these linebackers and look at these safeties, and he's
gonna help Jordan Love pick them apart. I put the
over under on Packers points around forty in this game.
They're just gonna score so much they win by way
more than four.
Speaker 6 (37:02):
All Right, Well, I'm gonna go to the game in
Denver between the Panthers and the Broncos, and I'm gonna
talk about bo Nix's rushing yards. He's gonna have more
than twenty six of them. This guy's his EPA on
scrambles is point nine to eight.
Speaker 4 (37:14):
That is a lot.
Speaker 5 (37:15):
So what's gonna happen.
Speaker 4 (37:16):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (37:17):
Actually, this could happen in the first quarter, ladies and gentlemen.
So I'm looking at his opportunity in this game.
Speaker 6 (37:22):
And even though I don't necessarily think it's gonna be
something where he's running late in the game to do
anything crazy, I just think it happens in the beginning
early often have his before halftime happiness.
Speaker 7 (37:31):
You can move on.
Speaker 2 (37:32):
You're gonna get them on this one, just like you
did with Jamiir Gibbs, because bow Nix has more scramble
yards than anybody, like anybody, and scramble opportunities.
Speaker 7 (37:40):
It's nuts.
Speaker 2 (37:41):
And I'm also gonna get some low hanging fruit. Shout
out to my dear friend Marcus Scrampt who says that
low hanging fruit tastes just as good. And for a
reception for Mark Cooper, I think is a nice easy.
It's like when you're walking down the street and somebody's
got the orange tree inside of the fence and all
of the oranges at eye level are gone. There's a
clear line that shows you how tall the people walking
(38:02):
down the street are because they just grab it. That's
what I'm doing here because a Mari shows up. He
has six catches for the Buffalo Bills, including a touchdown.
I think he has a solid game in more more
than three and a hal outs to.
Speaker 4 (38:13):
Living in California. We're just picking fruit off trees, the
normal thing.
Speaker 7 (38:17):
That's that's what we do. We like security, Enjoy, Enjoy
all those things. Join us next week. Enjoy all the games, folks.
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