On the latest Off the Edge with Cam Jordan podcast, Cam is joined by Hall of Famer and Super Bowl champion Dwight Freeney. In this episode, Dwight reflects on his recent induction into the Pro Football Hall of Fame’s class of 2024. He shares what moment truly solidified the honor for him—whether it was receiving his Ring of Excellence or putting on the iconic gold jacket. Dwight also talks about the weight of being one of only 378 players, out of nearly 350 million to ever play football, to be enshrined in Canton.
Cam and Dwight dive into the art of pass rushing, discussing Dwight’s signature spin move and its lasting influence on the game today. Despite his Ring of Excellence listing him as a defensive end and outside linebacker, Dwight explains why he never wants to be remembered as an outside linebacker.
He also reminisces about his first and only NFL touchdown in Week 4 of the 2003 season against the Saints, a game he wasn’t even supposed to play in due to a cracked rib.
Then, Dwight shares the story of how he became friends with basketball legend Michael Jordan, a relationship that began on the golf course and has continued ever since.
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
It's me and your host Cam Jordan off the edge
the podcast. You know, big cutting my head off of
the frame today. But you don't even hear on the podcast.
But if you tune into the NFL YouTube channel where
you can see the podcast off the edge of me,
your host, you'll notice that.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
It's just Shoulders Hi. Now, got to bring it in
tight right here.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
But I got a great guest on the show today.
I've got a great interviewee on the show today. I've
got a great legend of the game on today's episode,
I get to bring in a man from the Indianapolis Colts,
played so many years with collected one hundred and twenty
five and a half sacks collectively, seven time Pro Bowler,
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three time First Team All Pro, was a Super Bowl champion,
and also a second team on Pro But like, I
don't understand why they don't talk about it.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
That's for all pros right there, And.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
He just recently became this year three hundred and seventy
second member of the Hall of Fame class of twenty
twenty four, the Dwight Freenie. Hey, I just want to
bring in my big dog, my og legend of the game,
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a man who's had over one hundred sacks, let's say
one hundred and twenty five and a half, A man
who's been an All Pro, three time All Pro first
team and then there's a second team in there. So
really it is a four time situation, seven time pro bowler,
a legend and current brand new class Hall of Class
of twenty twenty four Hall of Famer. You know, number
three hundred and seventy two. I said, what accolade don't
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you have? It's Dwight Freeeny, the spin mattic. You know,
put him in a spin machine. Growing up, watching Dwight
inspired a generation of guys that wanted to spin just
like Dwight. If you want look, if you want were
a pass rusher and you wanted to spin, you want
to spend like Dwyke Freene.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Appreciate you, Big dun for tapping in with us on
the podcast.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Yeah, I appreciate you having me off the edge. You know,
I had to be here off the edge.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
You can. That's what we do camp.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
We off the edge, off the edge. Look, I just
want to start off, like, come on, man, the spin
moves that you put on, it was just it was
it was a clinic you'd be like, oh, man, he
has a hell of a speed of power he's got
you know, he's got a couple moves. But when you
hit that that speed up the field and hit him
with that real the hook of a of elbow passive
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lineman like chefs kiss every time you're like, yo, spin move.
Oh you know what I just did. Dwight Freeney. Wide
receivers got Randy Moss. Defensive ends had Dwight free Man.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
You know, you know how it is you go out there,
you better have uh, you know, some moves because those
offensive tackles.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
They all hold, they're all cheap.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
And if you don't have something in in you know
that belt buckle where you said, okay, you're blocking this,
but what about this? Okay you got that one, Well
I got this for you. So that's that's kind of
how my game was. You know, it wasn't it wasn't checkers.
We were playing chess out there, you know, and I
was going I was going to, yeah, you know how
it is. You got to give him the speed and
then gotta get those feet moving. And then when those
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speed moving, okay, something else is opening up.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
All right. I'll let you think that you're blocking me
until you don't block me. That's that's how it is.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
Absolutely the fat boy's feet get the crossing, they start squealing.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
Oh yeah, yeah, exactly where he is.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
He doesn't want to move his lest he doesn't want
to move his steet, all right, So that's what I'm
gonna make you move your feet. You will all You're
going to just be devoured out there.
Speaker 4 (03:38):
That's just what it is.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Absolutely b you know, for for for younger players, for
what it is, Uh, how did how did you used
to get ready for a season back when it was
you know, sixteen weeks of football, back when you know,
as the year started compiling and the body started aching
or whatever it is? How did you go through going
through a whole season of football and a legendary way?
Speaker 3 (04:00):
I think, I think for me, you know, I just
had to make sure that I handled the things that
I can control.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
Okay. So the things you can.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
Control is what you put in your body, all right,
what you do with your body after the games, before practice,
So you know, those are the things that I didn't
make sure that, you know what, I'm gonna be as
prepared as I possibly can be for this game with
no excuses because I've done everything I needed to do,
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all right.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
I'm at the right weight, I've been stretching, I've been
doing whatever it is.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
I do hyperbetic chambers, I do acupuncture, I did I
did a whole bunch just to make sure that when
it was Sunday, I'm.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
Feeling good or as good as I'm supposed.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
To feel based on whatever week before. All right, So
that was my mindset, you know. So it was you know,
when people talk about football, you know, and how much
time is required to be great or to be good
or to be successful, it's it's it's damn near. You know,
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you're talking. You know, you're waking up at six forty five,
and when practice is over, I'm not done. I bring
film home, I'm stretching, I'm doing this, I'm doing that.
I'm not done until probably ten thirty, eleven o'clock.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
And all I got. All I can do is sleep and.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Wake up and put it on repeat for the next day,
just to get ready for that game.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
You know. So if you have you know.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
Some type of I don't know, repertoire things that you do,
schedule of what you do. Maybe it's Mondays is going
to be soft tissue. Tuesdays is going to be you know,
acupuncture Wednesdays. You go to practice, you do your thing,
you come back, you do whatever you need to do, stretching, yoga,
whatever it is. You just make sure that you have
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your routine and you stick to that routine throughout the
end entire week, and you should be good enough to
go out and get after it.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
Absolutely.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
Man.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Look that prehab is seriously, there's rehab, rehabits before practice.
You know, there's there's meetings practice. Then you try and
hit the touch to the rehab room. Probably you know,
get when those grass and tools get scraped down real quick,
get cup, you know, definitely do the dry needles versus
the acupuncture. And then I mean, I didn't know you
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was on the hyperbaric chamber. I ain't find hyperbaric until
like year ten.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
Man, like that hyperbaric it's been on. Man, that thing
has been part of my entire career. I lived in it.
Can when I'm talking about when you get off of practice,
all right, if you get home, I would bring my
iPad right and I'll go sit in that chamber. Forty
five minutes in the hyperbaric chamber is equivalent to eight
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hours of sleep from a recovery stamp. Okay, so when
you sleep eight hours, your blood and how it circulates
your body through your system, it corrects, it cleans out,
does all that in eight hours. Well, getting in the
hyperbaric chamber within forty five minutes an hour just the
same work that doesn't eight hours.
Speaker 4 (07:10):
So I was going to be in that.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
Chamber, reading, doing all the things I needed to do,
all my notes whatever. I might fall asleep, I might
wake up, but I'm get in there for about two
hours after practice, be out of there about eight thirty.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
Eat, get ready to go to sleep. Done right.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
That commitment to the game, there's a reason. There's a
reason why you win seventeen years. That's just that's amazing. Word,
that's legendary itself. Look, I'm a year fourteen. I was like, okay,
we can go. We got a lot to give. Seventeen
that sounds fall share.
Speaker 4 (07:50):
Yes, sixteen is what I did. Sixteen.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
Now, the truth is I could have played longer, and
why I did it was because a at some point
when you're in year fifteen, or you might be feeling.
Speaker 4 (08:08):
This now or whatever, but the game, at least for the.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
Young folks young, you know, I mean the younger generation, right,
And it got to a point where I felt I
was really coaching. I was coaching coaches. I was older
than coaches. I was coaching. I was coaching my guys up.
And I felt like, you know what, it's their time now,
it's their time to shine. I can go out there
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and do whatever I do. But what am I really
playing for at this point in my career? Based on
the teams I was playing on. It wasn't like we
were competing for the championship or ring. I always want
to play for the ring. But at that point, I
was like, Okay, I'm coaching these guys up. I want
to see them succeed, and uh, it's time for me
just to turn the page and focus on some renalds.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
Do you have any advice for them? Last couple of
years of your career, you're just navigating it. I mean
from one being with the coach for so long too,
you know, even the way you left it and went on.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
Yeah, So so for me, Kim, it's a little different,
you know. And it's kind of funny because when you
when you get older, they want to protect you. The
coaching staff want to protect you. They want to protect
you know what I'm.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Saying at year seven?
Speaker 4 (09:24):
Yeah yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
Like you know, we don't want to get you banged up.
You know, you know you don't need to play every down,
just come in and third down and whatever. I'm and
I'm a guy who you know, I want to play first, second,
and third because, be quite honest with you, you have
to get the feel of the game and you can't
just throw somebody in there on third down only get,
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you know, fifteen plays and twenty plays a game and
really get a grasp of what's actually happened because they
game playing the hell out of third down. So you're
not going to really be able to attack the way
that you really prefer to attack. So when you get
in that mode of where those coaches say they want
to protect you and they want to, all of a
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sudden you only get in fifteen.
Speaker 4 (10:14):
Plays, all of a sudden, your stats are going down.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
Your numbers are going down, and all of a sudden
they don't want to pay you as much because look,
do I look at your stats, You're not playing as
much da da, And I'm thinking to myself, that was y'all.
Speaker 4 (10:28):
You guys take that decision. For me, it wasn't me.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Look, if you out of my way, I'd be sitting
there playing forty five fifty players every single step. That's
how I love the game, that's how I wanted to play,
but they wanted to protect me. Numbers go down, all
of a sudden, you don't play as much, all of
a sudden, you become more of a coach.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
Then it's like, you know what, you guys got it.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
You guys got it quick, Like I have so much
more to give and you just want to limit me,
which they try and limit you early, like hey, hey,
we want to rotate, like we don't want to tax
you one because you know, it's discovering their bases. And
then second of all, you know they want to see
what the next waves look like. And if the next
wave can't cut it, then you're right back.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
It's like, it's the nature of the beast.
Speaker 4 (11:16):
I get it. I mean, you know, it's just what
it is. Everyone.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
For the most part, you're gonna hear that, you're gonna
get that call, you're gonna get that message, you're gonna say, hey, Dwight,
we love you, or.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
Cam we love you. But you know, you know you're
making the numbers and you know, we'll figure something out,
we'll take care of you.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
And that's just how it That's just how it goes
until you're like, you get frustrated or you just can't
do it anymore.
Speaker 4 (11:40):
That's just what it is.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
So that's that's that's that's yeah, that's how that's how
it happened for me.
Speaker 4 (11:46):
Cam. But I will tell you one thing that how
we Long told me.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
Okay, I saw how Long in one of the Pro
Bowls who was coming back or whatever, and he said, look,
play the game as long as you can play it,
because when you're done, it's over forever. And yeah, that
that really hit home for me because I wanted to
make sure.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
Look, this game has given me a.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
Lot, and I love it. I'm infactuated by it. It
just is just everything about it. But when it's done,
you ain't coming back. This ain't like you know, this
ain't like Michael Jordan come back off the you know,
retired for a few years.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
We football players, we gotta stay on the ground.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
We can't as soon as we feel with that other
life is about, we ain't coming back coming back. So
so for me, that's just what it was. I was like, all,
I'm gonna play sixteen and be done.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Hey, that's real deal, holy Field, Bro. It was a
two off season goes now, Bro. I took the fam
on something like, Hey, I'm a dad, you know, I'm
uh you know, the family goes travels, but I want
to show the kids something. We want to go live
in Spain for three months right the off season. I
was like, No, We're living out in Spain. It's gonna
be great. I was like, you know, we're gonna I'm
gonna make the kids cultured. We're gonna make them learn
(13:03):
to speak Spanish. That was my idea, was to make
the fans speak Spanish for me too, for them. You know,
I'm yo, say Cameron, you know, like la, you know
whatever it is we're going. The kids are like for
the first three weeks, the kids are just like, why
are they speaking Why are they speaking Spanish? Why are
they talking to me? Weird? No, maybe you're the weird one.
You're in their country. I'm forcuning you guys to do this.
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Wife he homeschooling them, but we still got like a
babysitter type coming through every day teaching us Spanish. Excellent.
You know. And then somewhere in there, bro like three
months in, I look around. I'm like, yo, I got
really comfortable, I said. I was like, yo, we gotta
go now. I was already like a week or two
late OTAs and I was gonna stay there till camp.
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I was like, I woke up one morning, yell, we
got about a week left. Now, Hey, I was like,
pack up, we gotta we gotta go. What do you
mean we gotta go. I gotta get back to hitting somebody.
I gotta get back to the grind. There's rigorous training
that is football.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
Yeah, you take off the yo, you chick off that
yoke and you don't want to put that yo bag on.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
And that's just how it is. It's like cattle, you
take that, you leave. That's why they leave them on.
They sleep with.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
The yoke on, because if that cattle feels like, hey,
I can take this yoke off, that bulls to hey
I can take this off. And they feel what it
feels like not to have that thing on their shoulders.
Oh God, they're not gonna go back to work. They're
not gonna be they gonna nah, I me ain't doing this.
So I feel you. You you you get get back there,
what you know, dog, because if you get too comfortable
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and it's starting to feel good, you got your feet
up and you're eating a little bit of this, you're
drinking a little bit of that, and you're like, you
have twenty pounds over, You're twenty poles over, and you're like,
oh god, this is this is gonna be a climb.
Speaker 4 (14:46):
How am I gonna get this weight off?
Speaker 1 (14:48):
Just walking walking around town? Every day with the film,
the kids are happy, they get Dad every day. Dad,
you should never leave.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
You're like, damn, yeah, maybe I should never leave.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
Wait a minute, we gotta go. We'll be right back.
Let's let's talk about you know, you being the the
inductee number three three, three hundred seventy two. That's that's
all there really is. There's all like out of the
entire hundred, you know, in the year's worth of the NFL,
there's less than four hundred Hall of famers in the books,
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and you made three seventy two. Not only does it
talk to to your career at all, but like it
talks to who you've put on.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
For so many years. But how does it feel about
getting that ring?
Speaker 3 (15:31):
Yeah, it's it's you know, look, I know I had
a good career, a great career, and no matter how
you try to prepare yourself mentally for this moment, it
can never add up to what you actually feel when
it happens. And you know, they put us, they gave
me a statistic, right, they said, three hundred and fifty
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million people have played the game of football in some
level okay, high school and make it to college or
the college or pros or whatever it is, and only
three hundred and seventy eight on a pro football So
that's a point zero zero zero zero one, you know,
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percentage of that happening. And when you put that in perspective,
it really hits home. And when you get to that level,
how the Hall of Famers embrace you, It's really like
a fraternity. It's really like their family. And that's kind
of you know, will put chills down my spine.
Speaker 4 (16:40):
Is when you see guys like me.
Speaker 5 (16:42):
And Joe Green, Charles Haley going sap, those guys that
you watch growing up, Michael Strahan, Lawrence Taylor, all those
guys embracing you, coming to you like you did something.
Speaker 4 (16:59):
I'm like, do nothing, y'all do something. I'm watching you
I grew up. I wouldn't be playing football if it
wasn't Frank guys, you know, And and so.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
That that feeling cam is everything, it truly is. And
not only is it just for me, you know, the
feeling of how it feels for me, it's also for
all those who helped me along the way, all those
little people, situations, coaches, you know, they all helped me
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get to where I got. So it's a celebration for
the entire camp. Everyone feels like they made it. And
that's how you know that for me, that that really
brought it home for me, you know, from a kid
from Bloomfield, Connecticut. We ain't gotten many from Boomfield, We've
got none. Now you got the whole Boomfield Greater Harford
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area being like we got one.
Speaker 4 (17:57):
Now got on you got one. Man. So yeah, it's
you know, I know, I don't know whoom Yeah, but yeah,
that's what I said. It is right there.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
We we neighbors, were neighbors right there, and it's like, Yo,
it's you know, hopefully God willing you get that opportunity
to do that, and being there, your work has been amazing,
you know. It's just one of those things where you
just never know. You know, I don't care, you know,
you never you really never know. And now I got
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a place where my bust will be there.
Speaker 4 (18:34):
And I can never be traded.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
I can never be cut off this team. I can
never be released. I can't even get off the team
if I try, if I wanted to. I'm on it,
even when I'm dead. I'm on this damn team. So kids, kids, kids,
kids can find the great great granddad. And I'm being
up and there absolutely all.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
I got to do is go to campon if you
want to see me, baby, I mean, all right, is
there a different is there a different feeling from when
you got your Hall of Fame jacket to when they
gave you your ring?
Speaker 3 (19:09):
Well yeah they the jackets, it the jackets, it for real,
it's it's you you. I'm not saying you're going through
the motions. You don't really feel it until you get
the jacket. When you say that jacket is yours, you
put that jacket on.
Speaker 4 (19:25):
Now, yeah, now you feel like, yeah I made it.
Yeah you are.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
Yeah, Yeah, that's.
Speaker 4 (19:33):
Just what it is. And you know, you talk to
any Hall of Famer, they all said the same thing.
All right.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
So when We're gonna get you to start coming to
one of these one hundred SAC Club meetings. You know
what I'm saying. Like I'm just saying. I went to
the first one a couple of years ago in LA,
the one in.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
Super Bowling a super Bowl.
Speaker 4 (19:49):
Bruce.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
Yeah, yeah, with Bruce. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (19:52):
There was, Yeah, I was gonna come.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
I was gonna come in LA, and then all of
a sudden I forgot what happened and something something happened
that year. I told Bruce I was gonna come. They
actually have one at the Hall of Fame. They had one,
but they had me running around doing all stuff because
I was getting inducted. So I told Bruce is my boy.
I told Bruce, you know what, one hundred percent in
the next situation, you've got Super Bowl. Whatever I'm doing,
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it's no problem. This is, like I said, this is
a fraternity dog. This is we all in it together.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
We all speaking of fraternity.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
You are you looking forward to your other, your young
buck or you know who was a young buck. Robert
Mathis who played with the defensive vand opposite of you
getting in. His chance has got to be great. We
might get in this year, next year that is coming.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
Well look, look I would say this, and this is
something that you can actually because you are playing today
and you have this podcast, and you can kind of
you bring a light to this.
Speaker 4 (20:52):
What people don't talk about enough is cause fumbles.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
Right, A cause fumble is equivalent or maybe even greater
than the interception because of where you where it usually happens,
and what usually happens for us is in the backfield,
which means that the offense has better opportunity to score touchdown.
Sometimes you get a scoop and score. All right, that
is a huge stat Robert Mathis has the most cost
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fumbles in league history. Okay, imagine someone with the most
interceptions not being in the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 4 (21:28):
You can't. So that's how I look at it when
we talk about Robert. Robert was a turnover machine.
Speaker 3 (21:36):
Yeahs the most cost fumbles in the history of the
National Football League.
Speaker 4 (21:42):
And he should be.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
In simple as simple as that. I'm in no disagreeance there.
Would you would you label him between you and him?
You guys are like the hybrid defensive end outside linebackers,
you know, like on your ring, I saw that it
said defensive end outside linebacker, And on my pod I've
addressed this many of times. There's quite a distinction between
defensive end and outside linebacker. Outside linebacker is drying like
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a rushing backer, and a defensive end has handled the dirt,
getting all that work from a four eye to a
nine man.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
Let me tell you it's it's people don't understand it
and they try to put it all in the same Oh,
he's just.
Speaker 4 (22:17):
A guy who's rushing. No no, no, no, no, no, no no.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
Defensive end, dude, you you like you said, you got
to line up different places.
Speaker 4 (22:29):
Okay, four, five, five.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
Seven, nine, and god yeah. And if you play it
outside backer, chances are you're getting more of those favorable matchups.
Speaker 4 (22:41):
Okay, you're getting facing tight.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
Ends because it blits of other places you might get
it back or whatever it is. I'm not taking anything
away from outside linebackers, but it's a little bit different.
When you play a defensive end. Usually you're blind up
versus that offensive tackle, who is a person who pracked.
Speaker 4 (23:00):
This is past.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
Blocking on a day to day basis, and sometimes they
bring a chip and sometimes they bring a tight end outside.
Speaker 4 (23:06):
So it's a different world, all right.
Speaker 3 (23:08):
And I was actually surprised that I saw outside linebacker
on the ring. Like, I don't even want to be
known as all outside linebacker. I'm like, look them outside
linebacker years. I don't even want to remember. I want
to race those years because I shouldn't have been playing
outside line to begin with.
Speaker 4 (23:24):
But right, that is what it is.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
Look, I try to tell people like, yo, outside linebackers,
dope is a great position, but it's not a defensive end.
I say, it's that's like saying mustard, and you know
the gray pupon is the same. You know, you got
the yellow mustard and gray pupon. There are mustards, but
there is a difference.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
There is a difference. The difference, all right, different, definitely
is a difference.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
We'll be right back. When did it When did it
sink in that you were a Hall of Famer? I mean,
you knew once you were tired you were going to
be a Hall of Famer, But when when did it
sink in?
Speaker 4 (24:01):
Free? I'm being honest.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
I look, there are great players I believe that still
are not in the Hall of Fame, okay, and and
you would think at some point they would get in,
but you.
Speaker 4 (24:16):
Never know, you never know. I know I left my
mark in again. I knew that.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
I felt like, at some point I'm gonna make it. Okay,
when that point, when that happens, I don't know, so
I couldn't. You can't really call yourself a Hall of
Famer until you all you know, it's just talk, it's
just it. Literally, you know, towards end. I know you're
getting it right now. It's that towards the end of
your career, you know, future Hall of Famer, and you
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hear right and you're like, yeah, I'll be great, But
it ain't the same until you actually make it.
Speaker 4 (24:50):
Do matter? It don't.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
It don't even matter until you do, until you get there,
because you could be future Hall of Fame and for years,
you could be forty fifty years oh and you still
hadn't got it.
Speaker 4 (25:02):
You could be sixty. It don't matter.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
That's just how the game is, and it doesn't and
you just have to just take it like that and
just say, look, hopefully one day I make it, and
it's not up to me, it's up to those who vote.
Hopefully they see my work, and that's.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
It, right man.
Speaker 4 (25:21):
True.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
True, It's like it's like you know, they try and
tell you, oh, you're gonna buy a house one day.
Speaker 4 (25:26):
By until you.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
Actually get the keys and stuff through that threshold, one
day is too far away.
Speaker 4 (25:32):
Picture what the house looks.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
Like, the potential one day, man, you could be waging
five for really, well, you.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
Ain't got to wait forever. You you there? You you
him with the gold jacket. And they say hall of Fame?
What do they call first? They say Hall of Fame?
D like Foreni.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
They say super Bowl Champdike Freendie like which I'm just curious.
Speaker 4 (25:53):
It depends on where you were, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
They're both great, great feelings and great things, you know,
so I don't care what you say as long as
you say one of them.
Speaker 4 (26:04):
Halleujah.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
I'm still I'm still hunting for my super But you know,
as OG had a game, when you turn on the game,
who are the ends? Who are the rushers that you
like to watch?
Speaker 4 (26:13):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (26:14):
I mean, look, I think there's so many game guys,
you know, Like I said, this is like a fraternity
out here, man, and this is like a big family.
And I've watched you throughout my career and I love
how you do you do things I couldn't do. You know,
you have size, you make guys move. You know, you
got things where you see like Miles Garrett. Miles Garrett
(26:34):
is a guy that you know he shouldn't be able
to move. How he moved his side freaking.
Speaker 4 (26:40):
Just yeah, yeah, that's that's that's with him. It's a
little freaky.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
It's like you you bending, man, you bending like you mean,
but you still moving. Guys like you, you know what
I mean, Like you're doing too much right now.
Speaker 4 (26:52):
You just you just you just dominated, you just dominate.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
You over here, jumping over linemen, blocking field goals. You
just up an athlete, man.
Speaker 4 (27:02):
You see that.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
You see guys like you know Michael Michael Parsons. I
always love his energy and how he works. Okay, he
may not use all of the moves that he probably
I think that's going to hopefully one day, you know,
he's going to get better at he's still growing. But
from a motor standpoint and just afford standpoint, I love
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what he does and how he just gives it at
all when he's out there.
Speaker 4 (27:29):
You know you got t J.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
T J is another guy incorporating that spend more and more.
I love to see it. You know, before me, no
one was spinning it. You know, they would talk teach,
never turn your back to the quarterback. Now I'm seeing
guys spin left and right. TJ got that thing down
and he is doing his thing.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
Like you pass the to Dware and then Dware. You know.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
Yeah, it's crazy, isn't it crazy? Because I sit there
and I remember working out in the gym in LA
and Von Miller comes up to me and he says, hey, man,
talk to me about to spend. I'm like, I got you,
you know, And I helped him. I showed him a
little something what I was doing. Then wherever he went
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and he taught some other young guys. And that's just
how the game goes. This's just how it is. Richard Den,
you know, a good friend of mine trying to teach
me some stuff. And I said, okay, that's how you
do it. Rich Okay, let me see if I can,
you know, And that's just how it is. You just
you just have to give get back to the game.
I want the guys who are playing their journey to
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be easier than my This knowledge and all this information
and things that I, you know, came across.
Speaker 4 (28:44):
You know, I can't do nothing with it now.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
So I'm really look go ahead, you need it, I
got you do your thing right.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
Take all of it from me, because I'm gonna try
and give everything I got and take whatever information I
can get and my own.
Speaker 4 (28:59):
As long as we in a quarterback, I don't care
hit the quarterback. Want people to hit the quarterback.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
The better they got everything in their advantage everything.
Speaker 4 (29:10):
It's really good people.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
They like the franchise is gonna go out their way
to give them top dollar and may not whatever it is,
you know they like they've got. I try and tell
people quarterbacks are really good people. They live really good lives.
Their body only aches on Sundays. Can't feel bad for
them when I hit them.
Speaker 4 (29:28):
Listen, let me tell you something. Let me tell you something.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
There is no other physician that rely on so many
other factors to succeed.
Speaker 4 (29:38):
In the quarterback position.
Speaker 3 (29:40):
Okay, now that doesn't mean that they're you know, they're
not an important because when you have the other pieces
and you have a great quarterback, just like anything else,
you're going to succeed, and you have because they have
the ball in their hands. But right what it is
is it's usually somewhere in between. They're never as good
as you know when when at the end of the
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game it's always you know, it's the quarterback's fault.
Speaker 4 (30:05):
Quarterback's fault.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
It's usually somewhere in between where it's probably not his fault,
right as much as you want to say his fault.
And when he wins, when you guys win, it's probably
not the reason why you won just because of him.
So it's usually somewhere in between is where he is.
But for us, we're blue collar. There ain't no how
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in it, there ain't nothing, no you got to bring it.
We getting hit every play, We hit every single play,
and and and that's just how it is. You know,
That's why I love opposition. And the thing is, for
one thing I'm gonna say about this, You guys on offense,
you can elaborate, get that great game plan and put
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that suite he asked playing on that that you know,
we're gonna do this and we're gonna motion that guy.
Speaker 4 (30:57):
Then we're gonna we're gonna fake this thing and we'll
do that.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
Okay, well, are you accounting for that dog that beast
coming off that defensive line, but to tear that game
plan up because that seems like he's blocking them. But nah,
that's Cam Jordan. You can't just block him one on one.
So that player ain't gonna work. Is he going to
wreck the game? And that's what I love about opposition
(31:22):
is because it don't matter. We can wreck it and
it's all in our hands for the most part.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
What was were you like the first Jordan athlete is that,
like you know, is that Jason Taylor?
Speaker 4 (31:35):
You maybe one.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
Sap Jason Taylor, Marvin Harrison. There was other athletes before
me for sure. Now I don't know from a marketing
standpoint of how they did it on their side, but
I do remember them being Jordan athletes.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
Okay, yeah, look that you were in the first guys,
Like I say, right around then, I was like, man,
you can wear George like they're clean. Lee was reblocking.
Everybody had them right, some guys like used to probably
start off the career. Was that like the end of
the Astro Turf era, like you know that was that
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was like guys were rocking cleats, shoes ish like they
have maybe like the little studs at the bottom.
Speaker 4 (32:25):
You know what. Ye actually right?
Speaker 3 (32:27):
The actually right that was that was that was at
the end of Astro Turf because we had turf and
then in two thousand and seven when we moved to
the still turf, the one with the blood yeah with
rubber ye yeah, yeah, yes, exactly exactly. But you know
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what's funny is Marvin Marvin Harrison was you know, they
had them as a brand Jordan athlete when they were
on turf all right now.
Speaker 4 (33:00):
They didn't want they didn't want to brand Jordan. Guys
are the same thing. So that was my that was
my issue at the time.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
They told me one guy, So I kind of, you know,
say that, Yeah, I gotta make an ex make an exception,
and look, I need those and they made it.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
M hmm. What's your favorite pair of Jordan's mhm.
Speaker 4 (33:30):
Oh, my goodness. I would say I love threes. I
really love threes.
Speaker 3 (33:38):
I love elevens and ones. So it's either one, three
or eleven. That's that's where I'm at all day. And
they made a big push for ones right now the
last five or six years.
Speaker 4 (33:50):
They come in with some great colorways, super strong with
the ones.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
So yeah, I become a one lover. Prior to that,
I was a two. I was eight and twelves because
the eights you can play basketball and for real, for real, like,
you know, off season. I'm not trying to sprain ankle.
I played basketball for fun. So eight's got the double
trap on there.
Speaker 4 (34:11):
Yeah you're dead, Yeah yeah, yeah, uh but.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
Dang, that's that's fire. The twelves, of course, speak for themselves.
I don't have a narrow foot, so the elevens never
felt great like I could walk in them. But them twelves, yeah,
for wider footed people.
Speaker 3 (34:24):
Well see, yeah, I love I loven eleven's. I wasn't
playing basketball anyway, so I didn't care.
Speaker 4 (34:31):
I was.
Speaker 3 (34:31):
I was literally just walking back and forth from wherever
I was walking.
Speaker 4 (34:34):
That's it, that's it.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
He was out there with the limp pepper steps. Oh
you got the eleven though, Yeah, yeah, boy, I can
dress those up. I can walk them down. It is
what it is. You know, we talked about golf earlier,
early to the pot or whatever, but I know you
got you play golf with my MJ's from time to time. Yeah,
and we both know how competitive he is. We know
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you're competitive.
Speaker 4 (34:58):
Yeah you know.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
Uh, have y'all.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
Ever got into it on a golf course? You with
Michael Jordan or what's the best trash talk that you've
ever given? You give him the change trash talk from
on the field days when you was gonna flare.
Speaker 4 (35:10):
It up or it.
Speaker 3 (35:11):
But well, you know what it's funny is he's actually
my partner. So we usually team up, all right, and
we go against whoever we're going against. And that's usually
how it goes down, all right, once and then once
in a while we play each other if we don't
got no one else to play. And that's just how
this is how we roll. But I'll say this when
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you when you see him golfing, Yeah, he got that
same look he had when he was ball in his
hand versus Utah or versus Cleveland or whatever the game
on the line, he makes the crazy crossover fade away dude,
seventh whole seventeen eighteen, he gotta make a play, got
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that same look and he and he makes.
Speaker 4 (35:57):
The player and he and he comes through. Is not
is nuts man? It is nuts man.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
Does how does that even happen? You know? Like how
did you and him even become cool like that?
Speaker 4 (36:08):
Yeah, it's funny.
Speaker 3 (36:10):
Like, you know, I grew up like most kids probably
you know, in the nineties or whatever eighties you grew
up with Michael Jordan Fan and I was lucky enough.
I just got I was in the right place at
the right time. Ended up being drafted, obviously with the
Indianapolis Coats. One of his best friends lived in Indianapolis, Okay,
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So I got invited to his golf invitation in Bahamas.
That was in two thousand and three or four. All right,
So the game of golf granted me that opportunity to
meet to go. So I went out there, hacked it up,
sliced the ball, couldn't hit the damn ball worth nothing.
Speaker 4 (36:51):
But I ended up meeting his best friend.
Speaker 3 (36:55):
Because he came up to me, say, hey, man, big fan,
I lived in Indianapolis. So what would happen is in
the off season they would take the young boy, which
was me, and I'll be the tagalong. I'll be like,
you know, hey, call the young boy free. Come on,
let's tell me we're gonna go here, we go to Vegas.
We're gonna go where we're gonna go. So I ended
up being real cool with his best friend. End up
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being real cool with m J. And that's just how
it rose. And now shoot, I'm with him four times
a week. Problem man, golf, golf and that ball trying
to figure out what golfing that's about it.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
See, I feel like I've been a Jordan Brand athlete
for like the last seven or eight years, and I
feel like I know Marcus Jeordan. You know, I know,
I know Jazmine Jeordan.
Speaker 4 (37:38):
You know, I'm like George.
Speaker 1 (37:40):
Yeah, haven't met haven't met the man who's whose shoes
I'll be rocking. I'm it's crazy, man, But listen, one
thing you get.
Speaker 4 (37:50):
All you gotta do is pick up the game. Pick
up the game of golf first and foremost. I know,
I know whatever I know.
Speaker 2 (37:57):
Can we played pick a ball?
Speaker 4 (37:59):
Yeah? Well look there by yourself. The average the average
as is like sixty five. You ain't sixty five. You
can't play pick the ball.
Speaker 1 (38:08):
Flooring, man, Hey, ain't nothing but these old people here
but working, working.
Speaker 4 (38:14):
Oh god working. I don't want to get out there.
I don't want none of that. One of that bus.
They give me the business. But you pick up the
game of golf. You picked the game.
Speaker 3 (38:23):
Okay, okay, yea, they come hit your boy up, hit
me up, so yo, come to the court, come to
the court.
Speaker 4 (38:29):
Introduced that. That's it, man.
Speaker 1 (38:32):
I just want to you just say, Cam, I'll take
you to the course. I got nine holds for you,
just me and you get right. We're gonna keep we
gonna keep my little my little sad ass.
Speaker 2 (38:41):
You know, we can keep that between us between us,
all right.
Speaker 1 (38:51):
I started I started off in Arizona on a great
golf course growing up.
Speaker 2 (38:55):
Yeah, starting on the first t program.
Speaker 1 (38:57):
But eight year old Cam Jordan's walking walking eighteen holes
because pop's got to on the first tea program in June,
July and August in Arizona. Guess who didn't want to
be there? So I picked up every sport because of golf.
Speaker 4 (39:11):
Listen, listen, listen.
Speaker 3 (39:14):
At eight years old walk in the course, they would
have lost me. Now, eight years old walking in Arizona.
Oh one hundred and one degrees fifteen? Oh dad, what
are we doing that?
Speaker 4 (39:28):
What we're doing?
Speaker 1 (39:29):
Man? We can't That's what I'm saying, can't do this.
I was like, yo, basketball is inside. I want that.
Speaker 2 (39:34):
Uh you know, football is in like the four months.
Speaker 1 (39:37):
Okay that you know, all right, let's track and field springtime.
Let's keep that rolling. So that's hey, anything but anything.
But so then you know, and now everybody plays golf
and everybody's like, yeah, you gotta come golf, and I'm.
Speaker 2 (39:51):
Like, I got I got the attention span of a
six year old.
Speaker 4 (39:54):
I got sixty nine holes. I need a moment.
Speaker 3 (40:00):
You're right, but you know what, Your eyes ain't getting
no younger and all playing that basketball, and listen, you're
gonna want to pick something else up. That's a good
sport to play because you don't gotta run, you don't
gotta do nothing, and you can do what you do
and that means you talk your network and have a
good time.
Speaker 4 (40:17):
Facts.
Speaker 1 (40:18):
Look, you talk about you you golf with m J
four times, four times a week. Huh. That's just impressive.
And what at what point? At what point did that
come about the fourth to fourth week?
Speaker 4 (40:29):
Listen, I'm retired. He's definitely retired.
Speaker 3 (40:32):
So you know when you when when you don't got
no job and you don't gotta do nothing. Every day
is a Friday, and you go out there, hit the
hit the ball and then go chase and go find it,
then take care of the kids and you get home.
Speaker 4 (40:43):
That's it. That's all I.
Speaker 1 (40:44):
Got, right, lifelong friends from golf. I don't know if
I'm ever gonna have a lifelong friend from golf.
Speaker 4 (40:50):
That's crazy. List.
Speaker 3 (40:52):
Listen, you get out there, you get around the right circles,
you're gonna you don't want to do.
Speaker 4 (40:56):
I promise you could tell probably.
Speaker 1 (41:00):
Facts, but I'm not good enough to be competitive. So
there's only three things that I'm gonna come out for
golf For One, some one of my boys I haven't
seen in the really long time. He's like, yeah, man
me you know college. Two it's a charity event. Or
three it's best ball.
Speaker 2 (41:13):
I like, can I can help? I just can't leave
the fact that I can't leave it hurts.
Speaker 4 (41:20):
Don't worry.
Speaker 3 (41:20):
As soon as you get your game, all you gotta
do is you a feel good ones.
Speaker 4 (41:26):
Trust me.
Speaker 3 (41:26):
I know I know us and I say us as
d Lineman, we competitive. I promise you just you just
had him enough good ones. As soon as you start
hitting enough good ones.
Speaker 4 (41:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (41:41):
Facts. This next segment is called fun Facts with Cam
and Dwight.
Speaker 1 (41:54):
You know, so fun facts. I just want to let
you know. You know, when you're your ten year over
at the cold, say my ten yere, young Cam Jordan
with the Saints, Uh, did you know the most points
the Saints have scored in a game versus the Colts
was in twenty eleven.
Speaker 2 (42:10):
Sixty sixty two to seven and the Superdome.
Speaker 1 (42:13):
If you remember that one Peyton man pay Manning had
had the next injury, and.
Speaker 3 (42:18):
I tried not to remember that year. I tried not
to remember that year. That was the worst year of
my entire career. I think we won two games that year.
It was terrible. It was terrible.
Speaker 4 (42:32):
It was. And the thing is that year we ain't
have no preseason because I think we were. It was
like lockout, lockout. That was my rookie year, so we
had Yeah, we had a lockout. We didn't prepare, we
didn't know who. We thought Payton was going to be there.
Speaker 3 (42:45):
So the whole game plan was all centered around Payton
and all of a sudden, which men ain't gonna.
Speaker 4 (42:49):
Be out there?
Speaker 1 (42:50):
Oh Painter, Painter, not Peyton.
Speaker 4 (42:53):
It was Yeah, it was Painter, not paint as well.
Speaker 1 (42:57):
Yeah he got painted, which I remember I remem for
that game. I think I think I got my first
like it might have been one of my first fines.
It was like intentional. I might have I had a
later late hit on the quarterback. I was so hungry
for a sack man my rookie year, I had won
it wasn't that. Whatever was man one hundred, one hundred
and six seventeen and a half sacks later, We're okay, now, like.
Speaker 4 (43:20):
We're okay, You're good, alright.
Speaker 1 (43:23):
Fact number two. Look, so you know the transit between
the Saints and Coats would continue because you know the
Saints one their only Super Bowl in two thousand and nine.
Speaker 4 (43:32):
Versus the Colts. Sir, yes, sir, you know and another
moment I try to forget. I try.
Speaker 1 (43:39):
You got what you know you got, but you know.
Speaker 3 (43:42):
What, losing them, Oh, it never goes away. It never
goes away. I mean, yes, the win, it stays with
you longer, and that brings you to the tough times.
Speaker 4 (43:53):
Those ones that you lose.
Speaker 2 (43:57):
Man, you can't get them back.
Speaker 1 (44:00):
Okay, all right, well then we'll we'll finish this on
a positive now because you know, your only NFL touchdown
was versus the Saints in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 4 (44:11):
Let me tell you something two thousand and three, that game.
Let me let me explain to you were having that game.
Speaker 3 (44:17):
I wasn't supposed to play that game, all right, And
I remember having a crack rib and I was like, okay,
well you got a crack red. What are gonna do
shoot me up. So they injected my little rib right there.
I took all the little drugs I could take. I
was high as a kite, couldn't. I mean, I promise you.
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I was out there, couldn't feel nothing, couldn't feel nothing.
And I'm like, why am I even playing this game?
Why am I even playing this game? My face is numb.
I'm like, all right, here we go. And sure enough,
my only touchdown in my entire career is the game
that ethnically I probably shouldn't have played because I had
a crack rib.
Speaker 1 (45:00):
Jeez man, look I should I should have too, but
I only got one.
Speaker 2 (45:06):
My first one.
Speaker 1 (45:07):
First one was my first one was an interception off
massed effort and the end zone.
Speaker 2 (45:12):
I didn't even get no yack. I ain't get no
yack with.
Speaker 4 (45:14):
It big.
Speaker 2 (45:16):
Already, that's a tuddy.
Speaker 1 (45:20):
There should have been a second one against against the
Rams Jared goff uh Trey Henderson sack fumble.
Speaker 2 (45:26):
I school.
Speaker 1 (45:26):
I run eighty seven to the tuddy, eighty seven forty
yards in. The referee blows it dead, and of course
nobody hears it because everybody's chasing me.
Speaker 2 (45:35):
I'm a hook.
Speaker 4 (45:36):
Oh no, I'm scored.
Speaker 1 (45:39):
I dunk on a gold pull or whatever it was.
Whatever it was like, I'm like, I'm like, hell, yeah,
you know you look back, you see a flag. You're like, no,
not a flag.
Speaker 2 (45:47):
But whatever they was done.
Speaker 4 (45:49):
It was everybody over celebration, straight to the side.
Speaker 1 (45:55):
At least it was it was. It was a confirmed fumble.
So say the same office. Okay, okay, yeah, but god
when I tell you I'm on the sideline like you
run eighty seven after a drive where they came down
it was like a ten play drive.
Speaker 3 (46:08):
You will mustn't. Hey, listen, listen. You must have been
pushing it.
Speaker 4 (46:12):
You must have been wasn't Was it third? I was
third guy in goodness.
Speaker 1 (46:21):
Man either way. So whatever that is, but that that
was mine. So at least we got two together. You
know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (46:29):
We don't get, but we'll take it. We don't get,
but we will take it.
Speaker 1 (46:36):
Think every single time I appreciate you tapping in on
the pod, Big Dog off the edge of Cam Jordan's v.
Dwight Freeni, Hall of Famer Dwight Freenie, Oh Pro Dwight Freeni,
Super Bowl Champ Dwight FREENI Pro Bowl Dyke, Dwight Freedi.
I mean, what else can you say? You know, there's
nothing that you that you didn't set your mind to
that you accomplished in this game of football. I appreciate
you taking the time with the pot man.
Speaker 3 (46:58):
Appreciate you having me. I said, we got to stay together.
Get his quarterbacks. Please just keep heading them facts.
Speaker 1 (47:06):
If there's opportunity given, there's gonna be a opportunity to
take advantage of absolutely, man. I appreciate Dwight for tapping
in with the podcast. I appreciate my man for dropping
knowledge advice for the young, the old, me, them, they
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whoever needs to hear it.
Speaker 2 (47:29):
That's mister spin cycle right there. That's mister mister speed
the power.
Speaker 1 (47:34):
You know that was that was og. Hey, I'm rocking
Jay's on my feet and you know what I'm saying,
that heat on the fee is gonna be a game changer.
It may made me as a kid want to spend
It made me as a man want to be a
part of the Jordan brand. And you know so it's
a big shout out to the O g legend. You know,
I think that over his career sixteen years NFL clearly
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Hall of Fame, because now you know it ain't no
will be a Hall of Famer. He is a Hall
of Famer. Dwight Freeney, appreciate you for tapping in on
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Speaker 2 (48:27):
Off the Edge of the Podcast, Cam Jordan's
It's me and your host Cam Jordan off the edge
the podcast. You know, big cutting my head off of
the frame today. But you don't even hear on the podcast.
But if you tune into the NFL YouTube channel where
you can see the podcast off the edge of me,
your host, you'll notice that.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
It's just Shoulders Hi. Now, got to bring it in
tight right here.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
But I got a great guest on the show today.
I've got a great interviewee on the show today. I've
got a great legend of the game on today's episode,
I get to bring in a man from the Indianapolis Colts,
played so many years with collected one hundred and twenty
five and a half sacks collectively, seven time Pro Bowler,
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three time First Team All Pro, was a Super Bowl champion,
and also a second team on Pro But like, I
don't understand why they don't talk about it.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
That's for all pros right there, And.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
He just recently became this year three hundred and seventy
second member of the Hall of Fame class of twenty
twenty four, the Dwight Freenie. Hey, I just want to
bring in my big dog, my og legend of the game,
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a man who's had over one hundred sacks, let's say
one hundred and twenty five and a half, A man
who's been an All Pro, three time All Pro first
team and then there's a second team in there. So
really it is a four time situation, seven time pro bowler,
a legend and current brand new class Hall of Class
of twenty twenty four Hall of Famer. You know, number
three hundred and seventy two. I said, what accolade don't
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you have? It's Dwight Freeeny, the spin mattic. You know,
put him in a spin machine. Growing up, watching Dwight
inspired a generation of guys that wanted to spin just
like Dwight. If you want look, if you want were
a pass rusher and you wanted to spin, you want
to spend like Dwyke Freene.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Appreciate you, Big dun for tapping in with us on
the podcast.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Yeah, I appreciate you having me off the edge. You know,
I had to be here off the edge.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
You can. That's what we do camp.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
We off the edge, off the edge. Look, I just
want to start off, like, come on, man, the spin
moves that you put on, it was just it was
it was a clinic you'd be like, oh, man, he
has a hell of a speed of power he's got
you know, he's got a couple moves. But when you
hit that that speed up the field and hit him
with that real the hook of a of elbow passive
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lineman like chefs kiss every time you're like, yo, spin move.
Oh you know what I just did. Dwight Freeney. Wide
receivers got Randy Moss. Defensive ends had Dwight free Man.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
You know, you know how it is you go out there,
you better have uh, you know, some moves because those
offensive tackles.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
They all hold, they're all cheap.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
And if you don't have something in in you know
that belt buckle where you said, okay, you're blocking this,
but what about this? Okay you got that one, Well
I got this for you. So that's that's kind of
how my game was. You know, it wasn't it wasn't checkers.
We were playing chess out there, you know, and I
was going I was going to, yeah, you know how
it is. You got to give him the speed and
then gotta get those feet moving. And then when those
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speed moving, okay, something else is opening up.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
All right. I'll let you think that you're blocking me
until you don't block me. That's that's how it is.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
Absolutely the fat boy's feet get the crossing, they start squealing.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
Oh yeah, yeah, exactly where he is.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
He doesn't want to move his lest he doesn't want
to move his steet, all right, So that's what I'm
gonna make you move your feet. You will all You're
going to just be devoured out there.
Speaker 4 (03:38):
That's just what it is.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Absolutely b you know, for for for younger players, for
what it is, Uh, how did how did you used
to get ready for a season back when it was
you know, sixteen weeks of football, back when you know,
as the year started compiling and the body started aching
or whatever it is? How did you go through going
through a whole season of football and a legendary way?
Speaker 3 (04:00):
I think, I think for me, you know, I just
had to make sure that I handled the things that
I can control.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
Okay. So the things you can.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
Control is what you put in your body, all right,
what you do with your body after the games, before practice,
So you know, those are the things that I didn't
make sure that, you know what, I'm gonna be as
prepared as I possibly can be for this game with
no excuses because I've done everything I needed to do,
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all right.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
I'm at the right weight, I've been stretching, I've been
doing whatever it is.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
I do hyperbetic chambers, I do acupuncture, I did I
did a whole bunch just to make sure that when
it was Sunday, I'm.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
Feeling good or as good as I'm supposed.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
To feel based on whatever week before. All right, So
that was my mindset, you know. So it was you know,
when people talk about football, you know, and how much
time is required to be great or to be good
or to be successful, it's it's it's damn near. You know,
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you're talking. You know, you're waking up at six forty five,
and when practice is over, I'm not done. I bring
film home, I'm stretching, I'm doing this, I'm doing that.
I'm not done until probably ten thirty, eleven o'clock.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
And all I got. All I can do is sleep and.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Wake up and put it on repeat for the next day,
just to get ready for that game.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
You know. So if you have you know.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
Some type of I don't know, repertoire things that you do,
schedule of what you do. Maybe it's Mondays is going
to be soft tissue. Tuesdays is going to be you know,
acupuncture Wednesdays. You go to practice, you do your thing,
you come back, you do whatever you need to do, stretching, yoga,
whatever it is. You just make sure that you have
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your routine and you stick to that routine throughout the
end entire week, and you should be good enough to
go out and get after it.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
Absolutely.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
Man.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Look that prehab is seriously, there's rehab, rehabits before practice.
You know, there's there's meetings practice. Then you try and
hit the touch to the rehab room. Probably you know,
get when those grass and tools get scraped down real quick,
get cup, you know, definitely do the dry needles versus
the acupuncture. And then I mean, I didn't know you
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was on the hyperbaric chamber. I ain't find hyperbaric until
like year ten.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
Man, like that hyperbaric it's been on. Man, that thing
has been part of my entire career. I lived in it.
Can when I'm talking about when you get off of practice,
all right, if you get home, I would bring my
iPad right and I'll go sit in that chamber. Forty
five minutes in the hyperbaric chamber is equivalent to eight
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hours of sleep from a recovery stamp. Okay, so when
you sleep eight hours, your blood and how it circulates
your body through your system, it corrects, it cleans out,
does all that in eight hours. Well, getting in the
hyperbaric chamber within forty five minutes an hour just the
same work that doesn't eight hours.
Speaker 4 (07:10):
So I was going to be in that.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
Chamber, reading, doing all the things I needed to do,
all my notes whatever. I might fall asleep, I might
wake up, but I'm get in there for about two
hours after practice, be out of there about eight thirty.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
Eat, get ready to go to sleep. Done right.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
That commitment to the game, there's a reason. There's a
reason why you win seventeen years. That's just that's amazing. Word,
that's legendary itself. Look, I'm a year fourteen. I was like, okay,
we can go. We got a lot to give. Seventeen
that sounds fall share.
Speaker 4 (07:50):
Yes, sixteen is what I did. Sixteen.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
Now, the truth is I could have played longer, and
why I did it was because a at some point
when you're in year fifteen, or you might be feeling.
Speaker 4 (08:08):
This now or whatever, but the game, at least for the.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
Young folks young, you know, I mean the younger generation, right,
And it got to a point where I felt I
was really coaching. I was coaching coaches. I was older
than coaches. I was coaching. I was coaching my guys up.
And I felt like, you know what, it's their time now,
it's their time to shine. I can go out there
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and do whatever I do. But what am I really
playing for at this point in my career? Based on
the teams I was playing on. It wasn't like we
were competing for the championship or ring. I always want
to play for the ring. But at that point, I
was like, Okay, I'm coaching these guys up. I want
to see them succeed, and uh, it's time for me
just to turn the page and focus on some renalds.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
Do you have any advice for them? Last couple of
years of your career, you're just navigating it. I mean
from one being with the coach for so long too,
you know, even the way you left it and went on.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
Yeah, So so for me, Kim, it's a little different,
you know. And it's kind of funny because when you
when you get older, they want to protect you. The
coaching staff want to protect you. They want to protect
you know what I'm.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Saying at year seven?
Speaker 4 (09:24):
Yeah yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
Like you know, we don't want to get you banged up.
You know, you know you don't need to play every down,
just come in and third down and whatever. I'm and
I'm a guy who you know, I want to play first, second,
and third because, be quite honest with you, you have
to get the feel of the game and you can't
just throw somebody in there on third down only get,
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you know, fifteen plays and twenty plays a game and
really get a grasp of what's actually happened because they
game playing the hell out of third down. So you're
not going to really be able to attack the way
that you really prefer to attack. So when you get
in that mode of where those coaches say they want
to protect you and they want to, all of a
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sudden you only get in fifteen.
Speaker 4 (10:14):
Plays, all of a sudden, your stats are going down.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
Your numbers are going down, and all of a sudden
they don't want to pay you as much because look,
do I look at your stats, You're not playing as
much da da, And I'm thinking to myself, that was y'all.
Speaker 4 (10:28):
You guys take that decision. For me, it wasn't me.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Look, if you out of my way, I'd be sitting
there playing forty five fifty players every single step. That's
how I love the game, that's how I wanted to play,
but they wanted to protect me. Numbers go down, all
of a sudden, you don't play as much, all of
a sudden, you become more of a coach.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
Then it's like, you know what, you guys got it.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
You guys got it quick, Like I have so much
more to give and you just want to limit me,
which they try and limit you early, like hey, hey,
we want to rotate, like we don't want to tax
you one because you know, it's discovering their bases. And
then second of all, you know they want to see
what the next waves look like. And if the next
wave can't cut it, then you're right back.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
It's like, it's the nature of the beast.
Speaker 4 (11:16):
I get it. I mean, you know, it's just what
it is. Everyone.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
For the most part, you're gonna hear that, you're gonna
get that call, you're gonna get that message, you're gonna say, hey, Dwight,
we love you, or.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
Cam we love you. But you know, you know you're
making the numbers and you know, we'll figure something out,
we'll take care of you.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
And that's just how it That's just how it goes
until you're like, you get frustrated or you just can't
do it anymore.
Speaker 4 (11:40):
That's just what it is.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
So that's that's that's that's yeah, that's how that's how
it happened for me.
Speaker 4 (11:46):
Cam. But I will tell you one thing that how
we Long told me.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
Okay, I saw how Long in one of the Pro
Bowls who was coming back or whatever, and he said, look,
play the game as long as you can play it,
because when you're done, it's over forever. And yeah, that
that really hit home for me because I wanted to
make sure.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
Look, this game has given me a.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
Lot, and I love it. I'm infactuated by it. It
just is just everything about it. But when it's done,
you ain't coming back. This ain't like you know, this
ain't like Michael Jordan come back off the you know,
retired for a few years.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
We football players, we gotta stay on the ground.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
We can't as soon as we feel with that other
life is about, we ain't coming back coming back. So
so for me, that's just what it was. I was like, all,
I'm gonna play sixteen and be done.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Hey, that's real deal, holy Field, Bro. It was a
two off season goes now, Bro. I took the fam
on something like, Hey, I'm a dad, you know, I'm
uh you know, the family goes travels, but I want
to show the kids something. We want to go live
in Spain for three months right the off season. I
was like, No, We're living out in Spain. It's gonna
be great. I was like, you know, we're gonna I'm
gonna make the kids cultured. We're gonna make them learn
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to speak Spanish. That was my idea, was to make
the fans speak Spanish for me too, for them. You know,
I'm yo, say Cameron, you know, like la, you know
whatever it is we're going. The kids are like for
the first three weeks, the kids are just like, why
are they speaking Why are they speaking Spanish? Why are
they talking to me? Weird? No, maybe you're the weird one.
You're in their country. I'm forcuning you guys to do this.
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Wife he homeschooling them, but we still got like a
babysitter type coming through every day teaching us Spanish. Excellent.
You know. And then somewhere in there, bro like three
months in, I look around. I'm like, yo, I got
really comfortable, I said. I was like, yo, we gotta
go now. I was already like a week or two
late OTAs and I was gonna stay there till camp.
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I was like, I woke up one morning, yell, we
got about a week left. Now, Hey, I was like,
pack up, we gotta we gotta go. What do you
mean we gotta go. I gotta get back to hitting somebody.
I gotta get back to the grind. There's rigorous training
that is football.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
Yeah, you take off the yo, you chick off that
yoke and you don't want to put that yo bag on.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
And that's just how it is. It's like cattle, you
take that, you leave. That's why they leave them on.
They sleep with.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
The yoke on, because if that cattle feels like, hey,
I can take this yoke off, that bulls to hey
I can take this off. And they feel what it
feels like not to have that thing on their shoulders.
Oh God, they're not gonna go back to work. They're
not gonna be they gonna nah, I me ain't doing this.
So I feel you. You you you get get back there,
what you know, dog, because if you get too comfortable
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and it's starting to feel good, you got your feet
up and you're eating a little bit of this, you're
drinking a little bit of that, and you're like, you
have twenty pounds over, You're twenty poles over, and you're like,
oh god, this is this is gonna be a climb.
Speaker 4 (14:46):
How am I gonna get this weight off?
Speaker 1 (14:48):
Just walking walking around town? Every day with the film,
the kids are happy, they get Dad every day. Dad,
you should never leave.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
You're like, damn, yeah, maybe I should never leave.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
Wait a minute, we gotta go. We'll be right back.
Let's let's talk about you know, you being the the
inductee number three three, three hundred seventy two. That's that's
all there really is. There's all like out of the
entire hundred, you know, in the year's worth of the NFL,
there's less than four hundred Hall of famers in the books,
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and you made three seventy two. Not only does it
talk to to your career at all, but like it
talks to who you've put on.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
For so many years. But how does it feel about
getting that ring?
Speaker 3 (15:31):
Yeah, it's it's you know, look, I know I had
a good career, a great career, and no matter how
you try to prepare yourself mentally for this moment, it
can never add up to what you actually feel when
it happens. And you know, they put us, they gave
me a statistic, right, they said, three hundred and fifty
(15:54):
million people have played the game of football in some
level okay, high school and make it to college or
the college or pros or whatever it is, and only
three hundred and seventy eight on a pro football So
that's a point zero zero zero zero one, you know,
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percentage of that happening. And when you put that in perspective,
it really hits home. And when you get to that level,
how the Hall of Famers embrace you, It's really like
a fraternity. It's really like their family. And that's kind
of you know, will put chills down my spine.
Speaker 4 (16:40):
Is when you see guys like me.
Speaker 5 (16:42):
And Joe Green, Charles Haley going sap, those guys that
you watch growing up, Michael Strahan, Lawrence Taylor, all those
guys embracing you, coming to you like you did something.
Speaker 4 (16:59):
I'm like, do nothing, y'all do something. I'm watching you
I grew up. I wouldn't be playing football if it
wasn't Frank guys, you know, And and so.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
That that feeling cam is everything, it truly is. And
not only is it just for me, you know, the
feeling of how it feels for me, it's also for
all those who helped me along the way, all those
little people, situations, coaches, you know, they all helped me
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get to where I got. So it's a celebration for
the entire camp. Everyone feels like they made it. And
that's how you know that for me, that that really
brought it home for me, you know, from a kid
from Bloomfield, Connecticut. We ain't gotten many from Boomfield, We've
got none. Now you got the whole Boomfield Greater Harford
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area being like we got one.
Speaker 4 (17:57):
Now got on you got one. Man. So yeah, it's
you know, I know, I don't know whoom Yeah, but yeah,
that's what I said. It is right there.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
We we neighbors, were neighbors right there, and it's like, Yo,
it's you know, hopefully God willing you get that opportunity
to do that, and being there, your work has been amazing,
you know. It's just one of those things where you
just never know. You know, I don't care, you know,
you never you really never know. And now I got
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a place where my bust will be there.
Speaker 4 (18:34):
And I can never be traded.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
I can never be cut off this team. I can
never be released. I can't even get off the team
if I try, if I wanted to. I'm on it,
even when I'm dead. I'm on this damn team. So kids, kids, kids,
kids can find the great great granddad. And I'm being
up and there absolutely all.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
I got to do is go to campon if you
want to see me, baby, I mean, all right, is
there a different is there a different feeling from when
you got your Hall of Fame jacket to when they
gave you your ring?
Speaker 3 (19:09):
Well yeah they the jackets, it the jackets, it for real,
it's it's you you. I'm not saying you're going through
the motions. You don't really feel it until you get
the jacket. When you say that jacket is yours, you
put that jacket on.
Speaker 4 (19:25):
Now, yeah, now you feel like, yeah I made it.
Yeah you are.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
Yeah, Yeah, that's.
Speaker 4 (19:33):
Just what it is. And you know, you talk to
any Hall of Famer, they all said the same thing.
All right.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
So when We're gonna get you to start coming to
one of these one hundred SAC Club meetings. You know
what I'm saying. Like I'm just saying. I went to
the first one a couple of years ago in LA,
the one in.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
Super Bowling a super Bowl.
Speaker 4 (19:49):
Bruce.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
Yeah, yeah, with Bruce. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (19:52):
There was, Yeah, I was gonna come.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
I was gonna come in LA, and then all of
a sudden I forgot what happened and something something happened
that year. I told Bruce I was gonna come. They
actually have one at the Hall of Fame. They had one,
but they had me running around doing all stuff because
I was getting inducted. So I told Bruce is my boy.
I told Bruce, you know what, one hundred percent in
the next situation, you've got Super Bowl. Whatever I'm doing,
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it's no problem. This is, like I said, this is
a fraternity dog. This is we all in it together.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
We all speaking of fraternity.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
You are you looking forward to your other, your young
buck or you know who was a young buck. Robert
Mathis who played with the defensive vand opposite of you
getting in. His chance has got to be great. We
might get in this year, next year that is coming.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
Well look, look I would say this, and this is
something that you can actually because you are playing today
and you have this podcast, and you can kind of
you bring a light to this.
Speaker 4 (20:52):
What people don't talk about enough is cause fumbles.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
Right, A cause fumble is equivalent or maybe even greater
than the interception because of where you where it usually happens,
and what usually happens for us is in the backfield,
which means that the offense has better opportunity to score touchdown.
Sometimes you get a scoop and score. All right, that
is a huge stat Robert Mathis has the most cost
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fumbles in league history. Okay, imagine someone with the most
interceptions not being in the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 4 (21:28):
You can't. So that's how I look at it when
we talk about Robert. Robert was a turnover machine.
Speaker 3 (21:36):
Yeahs the most cost fumbles in the history of the
National Football League.
Speaker 4 (21:42):
And he should be.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
In simple as simple as that. I'm in no disagreeance there.
Would you would you label him between you and him?
You guys are like the hybrid defensive end outside linebackers,
you know, like on your ring, I saw that it
said defensive end outside linebacker, And on my pod I've
addressed this many of times. There's quite a distinction between
defensive end and outside linebacker. Outside linebacker is drying like
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a rushing backer, and a defensive end has handled the dirt,
getting all that work from a four eye to a
nine man.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
Let me tell you it's it's people don't understand it
and they try to put it all in the same Oh,
he's just.
Speaker 4 (22:17):
A guy who's rushing. No no, no, no, no, no, no no.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
Defensive end, dude, you you like you said, you got
to line up different places.
Speaker 4 (22:29):
Okay, four, five, five.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
Seven, nine, and god yeah. And if you play it
outside backer, chances are you're getting more of those favorable matchups.
Speaker 4 (22:41):
Okay, you're getting facing tight.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
Ends because it blits of other places you might get
it back or whatever it is. I'm not taking anything
away from outside linebackers, but it's a little bit different.
When you play a defensive end. Usually you're blind up
versus that offensive tackle, who is a person who pracked.
Speaker 4 (23:00):
This is past.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
Blocking on a day to day basis, and sometimes they
bring a chip and sometimes they bring a tight end outside.
Speaker 4 (23:06):
So it's a different world, all right.
Speaker 3 (23:08):
And I was actually surprised that I saw outside linebacker
on the ring. Like, I don't even want to be
known as all outside linebacker. I'm like, look them outside
linebacker years. I don't even want to remember. I want
to race those years because I shouldn't have been playing
outside line to begin with.
Speaker 4 (23:24):
But right, that is what it is.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
Look, I try to tell people like, yo, outside linebackers,
dope is a great position, but it's not a defensive end.
I say, it's that's like saying mustard, and you know
the gray pupon is the same. You know, you got
the yellow mustard and gray pupon. There are mustards, but
there is a difference.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
There is a difference. The difference, all right, different, definitely
is a difference.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
We'll be right back. When did it When did it
sink in that you were a Hall of Famer? I mean,
you knew once you were tired you were going to
be a Hall of Famer, But when when did it
sink in?
Speaker 4 (24:01):
Free? I'm being honest.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
I look, there are great players I believe that still
are not in the Hall of Fame, okay, and and
you would think at some point they would get in,
but you.
Speaker 4 (24:16):
Never know, you never know. I know I left my
mark in again. I knew that.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
I felt like, at some point I'm gonna make it. Okay,
when that point, when that happens, I don't know, so
I couldn't. You can't really call yourself a Hall of
Famer until you all you know, it's just talk, it's
just it. Literally, you know, towards end. I know you're
getting it right now. It's that towards the end of
your career, you know, future Hall of Famer, and you
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hear right and you're like, yeah, I'll be great, But
it ain't the same until you actually make it.
Speaker 4 (24:50):
Do matter? It don't.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
It don't even matter until you do, until you get there,
because you could be future Hall of Fame and for years,
you could be forty fifty years oh and you still
hadn't got it.
Speaker 4 (25:02):
You could be sixty. It don't matter.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
That's just how the game is, and it doesn't and
you just have to just take it like that and
just say, look, hopefully one day I make it, and
it's not up to me, it's up to those who vote.
Hopefully they see my work, and that's.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
It, right man.
Speaker 4 (25:21):
True.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
True, It's like it's like you know, they try and
tell you, oh, you're gonna buy a house one day.
Speaker 4 (25:26):
By until you.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
Actually get the keys and stuff through that threshold, one
day is too far away.
Speaker 4 (25:32):
Picture what the house looks.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
Like, the potential one day, man, you could be waging
five for really, well, you.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
Ain't got to wait forever. You you there? You you
him with the gold jacket. And they say hall of Fame?
What do they call first? They say Hall of Fame?
D like Foreni.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
They say super Bowl Champdike Freendie like which I'm just curious.
Speaker 4 (25:53):
It depends on where you were, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
They're both great, great feelings and great things, you know,
so I don't care what you say as long as
you say one of them.
Speaker 4 (26:04):
Halleujah.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
I'm still I'm still hunting for my super But you know,
as OG had a game, when you turn on the game,
who are the ends? Who are the rushers that you
like to watch?
Speaker 4 (26:13):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (26:14):
I mean, look, I think there's so many game guys,
you know, Like I said, this is like a fraternity
out here, man, and this is like a big family.
And I've watched you throughout my career and I love
how you do you do things I couldn't do. You know,
you have size, you make guys move. You know, you
got things where you see like Miles Garrett. Miles Garrett
(26:34):
is a guy that you know he shouldn't be able
to move. How he moved his side freaking.
Speaker 4 (26:40):
Just yeah, yeah, that's that's that's with him. It's a
little freaky.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
It's like you you bending, man, you bending like you mean,
but you still moving. Guys like you, you know what
I mean, Like you're doing too much right now.
Speaker 4 (26:52):
You just you just you just dominated, you just dominate.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
You over here, jumping over linemen, blocking field goals. You
just up an athlete, man.
Speaker 4 (27:02):
You see that.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
You see guys like you know Michael Michael Parsons. I
always love his energy and how he works. Okay, he
may not use all of the moves that he probably
I think that's going to hopefully one day, you know,
he's going to get better at he's still growing. But
from a motor standpoint and just afford standpoint, I love
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what he does and how he just gives it at
all when he's out there.
Speaker 4 (27:29):
You know you got t J.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
T J is another guy incorporating that spend more and more.
I love to see it. You know, before me, no
one was spinning it. You know, they would talk teach,
never turn your back to the quarterback. Now I'm seeing
guys spin left and right. TJ got that thing down
and he is doing his thing.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
Like you pass the to Dware and then Dware. You know.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
Yeah, it's crazy, isn't it crazy? Because I sit there
and I remember working out in the gym in LA
and Von Miller comes up to me and he says, hey, man,
talk to me about to spend. I'm like, I got you,
you know, And I helped him. I showed him a
little something what I was doing. Then wherever he went
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and he taught some other young guys. And that's just
how the game goes. This's just how it is. Richard Den,
you know, a good friend of mine trying to teach
me some stuff. And I said, okay, that's how you
do it. Rich Okay, let me see if I can,
you know, And that's just how it is. You just
you just have to give get back to the game.
I want the guys who are playing their journey to
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be easier than my This knowledge and all this information
and things that I, you know, came across.
Speaker 4 (28:44):
You know, I can't do nothing with it now.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
So I'm really look go ahead, you need it, I
got you do your thing right.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
Take all of it from me, because I'm gonna try
and give everything I got and take whatever information I
can get and my own.
Speaker 4 (28:59):
As long as we in a quarterback, I don't care
hit the quarterback. Want people to hit the quarterback.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
The better they got everything in their advantage everything.
Speaker 4 (29:10):
It's really good people.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
They like the franchise is gonna go out their way
to give them top dollar and may not whatever it is,
you know they like they've got. I try and tell
people quarterbacks are really good people. They live really good lives.
Their body only aches on Sundays. Can't feel bad for
them when I hit them.
Speaker 4 (29:28):
Listen, let me tell you something. Let me tell you something.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
There is no other physician that rely on so many
other factors to succeed.
Speaker 4 (29:38):
In the quarterback position.
Speaker 3 (29:40):
Okay, now that doesn't mean that they're you know, they're
not an important because when you have the other pieces
and you have a great quarterback, just like anything else,
you're going to succeed, and you have because they have
the ball in their hands. But right what it is
is it's usually somewhere in between. They're never as good
as you know when when at the end of the
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game it's always you know, it's the quarterback's fault.
Speaker 4 (30:05):
Quarterback's fault.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
It's usually somewhere in between where it's probably not his fault,
right as much as you want to say his fault.
And when he wins, when you guys win, it's probably
not the reason why you won just because of him.
So it's usually somewhere in between is where he is.
But for us, we're blue collar. There ain't no how
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in it, there ain't nothing, no you got to bring it.
We getting hit every play, We hit every single play,
and and and that's just how it is. You know,
That's why I love opposition. And the thing is, for
one thing I'm gonna say about this, You guys on offense,
you can elaborate, get that great game plan and put
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that suite he asked playing on that that you know,
we're gonna do this and we're gonna motion that guy.
Speaker 4 (30:57):
Then we're gonna we're gonna fake this thing and we'll
do that.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
Okay, well, are you accounting for that dog that beast
coming off that defensive line, but to tear that game
plan up because that seems like he's blocking them. But nah,
that's Cam Jordan. You can't just block him one on one.
So that player ain't gonna work. Is he going to
wreck the game? And that's what I love about opposition
(31:22):
is because it don't matter. We can wreck it and
it's all in our hands for the most part.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
What was were you like the first Jordan athlete is that,
like you know, is that Jason Taylor?
Speaker 4 (31:35):
You maybe one.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
Sap Jason Taylor, Marvin Harrison. There was other athletes before
me for sure. Now I don't know from a marketing
standpoint of how they did it on their side, but
I do remember them being Jordan athletes.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
Okay, yeah, look that you were in the first guys,
Like I say, right around then, I was like, man,
you can wear George like they're clean. Lee was reblocking.
Everybody had them right, some guys like used to probably
start off the career. Was that like the end of
the Astro Turf era, like you know that was that
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was like guys were rocking cleats, shoes ish like they
have maybe like the little studs at the bottom.
Speaker 4 (32:25):
You know what. Ye actually right?
Speaker 3 (32:27):
The actually right that was that was that was at
the end of Astro Turf because we had turf and
then in two thousand and seven when we moved to
the still turf, the one with the blood yeah with
rubber ye yeah, yeah, yes, exactly exactly. But you know
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what's funny is Marvin Marvin Harrison was you know, they
had them as a brand Jordan athlete when they were
on turf all right now.
Speaker 4 (33:00):
They didn't want they didn't want to brand Jordan. Guys
are the same thing. So that was my that was
my issue at the time.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
They told me one guy, So I kind of, you know,
say that, Yeah, I gotta make an ex make an exception,
and look, I need those and they made it.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
M hmm. What's your favorite pair of Jordan's mhm.
Speaker 4 (33:30):
Oh, my goodness. I would say I love threes. I
really love threes.
Speaker 3 (33:38):
I love elevens and ones. So it's either one, three
or eleven. That's that's where I'm at all day. And
they made a big push for ones right now the
last five or six years.
Speaker 4 (33:50):
They come in with some great colorways, super strong with
the ones.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
So yeah, I become a one lover. Prior to that,
I was a two. I was eight and twelves because
the eights you can play basketball and for real, for real, like,
you know, off season. I'm not trying to sprain ankle.
I played basketball for fun. So eight's got the double
trap on there.
Speaker 4 (34:11):
Yeah you're dead, Yeah yeah, yeah, uh but.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
Dang, that's that's fire. The twelves, of course, speak for themselves.
I don't have a narrow foot, so the elevens never
felt great like I could walk in them. But them twelves, yeah,
for wider footed people.
Speaker 3 (34:24):
Well see, yeah, I love I loven eleven's. I wasn't
playing basketball anyway, so I didn't care.
Speaker 4 (34:31):
I was.
Speaker 3 (34:31):
I was literally just walking back and forth from wherever
I was walking.
Speaker 4 (34:34):
That's it, that's it.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
He was out there with the limp pepper steps. Oh
you got the eleven though, Yeah, yeah, boy, I can
dress those up. I can walk them down. It is
what it is. You know, we talked about golf earlier,
early to the pot or whatever, but I know you
got you play golf with my MJ's from time to time. Yeah,
and we both know how competitive he is. We know
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you're competitive.
Speaker 4 (34:58):
Yeah you know.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
Uh, have y'all.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
Ever got into it on a golf course? You with
Michael Jordan or what's the best trash talk that you've
ever given? You give him the change trash talk from
on the field days when you was gonna flare.
Speaker 4 (35:10):
It up or it.
Speaker 3 (35:11):
But well, you know what it's funny is he's actually
my partner. So we usually team up, all right, and
we go against whoever we're going against. And that's usually
how it goes down, all right, once and then once
in a while we play each other if we don't
got no one else to play. And that's just how
this is how we roll. But I'll say this when
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you when you see him golfing, Yeah, he got that
same look he had when he was ball in his
hand versus Utah or versus Cleveland or whatever the game
on the line, he makes the crazy crossover fade away dude,
seventh whole seventeen eighteen, he gotta make a play, got
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that same look and he and he makes.
Speaker 4 (35:57):
The player and he and he comes through. Is not
is nuts man? It is nuts man.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
Does how does that even happen? You know? Like how
did you and him even become cool like that?
Speaker 4 (36:08):
Yeah, it's funny.
Speaker 3 (36:10):
Like, you know, I grew up like most kids probably
you know, in the nineties or whatever eighties you grew
up with Michael Jordan Fan and I was lucky enough.
I just got I was in the right place at
the right time. Ended up being drafted, obviously with the
Indianapolis Coats. One of his best friends lived in Indianapolis, Okay,
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So I got invited to his golf invitation in Bahamas.
That was in two thousand and three or four. All right,
So the game of golf granted me that opportunity to
meet to go. So I went out there, hacked it up,
sliced the ball, couldn't hit the damn ball worth nothing.
Speaker 4 (36:51):
But I ended up meeting his best friend.
Speaker 3 (36:55):
Because he came up to me, say, hey, man, big fan,
I lived in Indianapolis. So what would happen is in
the off season they would take the young boy, which
was me, and I'll be the tagalong. I'll be like,
you know, hey, call the young boy free. Come on,
let's tell me we're gonna go here, we go to Vegas.
We're gonna go where we're gonna go. So I ended
up being real cool with his best friend. End up
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being real cool with m J. And that's just how
it rose. And now shoot, I'm with him four times
a week. Problem man, golf, golf and that ball trying
to figure out what golfing that's about it.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
See, I feel like I've been a Jordan Brand athlete
for like the last seven or eight years, and I
feel like I know Marcus Jeordan. You know, I know,
I know Jazmine Jeordan.
Speaker 4 (37:38):
You know, I'm like George.
Speaker 1 (37:40):
Yeah, haven't met haven't met the man who's whose shoes
I'll be rocking. I'm it's crazy, man, But listen, one
thing you get.
Speaker 4 (37:50):
All you gotta do is pick up the game. Pick
up the game of golf first and foremost. I know,
I know whatever I know.
Speaker 2 (37:57):
Can we played pick a ball?
Speaker 4 (37:59):
Yeah? Well look there by yourself. The average the average
as is like sixty five. You ain't sixty five. You
can't play pick the ball.
Speaker 1 (38:08):
Flooring, man, Hey, ain't nothing but these old people here
but working, working.
Speaker 4 (38:14):
Oh god working. I don't want to get out there.
I don't want none of that. One of that bus.
They give me the business. But you pick up the
game of golf. You picked the game.
Speaker 3 (38:23):
Okay, okay, yea, they come hit your boy up, hit
me up, so yo, come to the court, come to
the court.
Speaker 4 (38:29):
Introduced that. That's it, man.
Speaker 1 (38:32):
I just want to you just say, Cam, I'll take
you to the course. I got nine holds for you,
just me and you get right. We're gonna keep we
gonna keep my little my little sad ass.
Speaker 2 (38:41):
You know, we can keep that between us between us,
all right.
Speaker 1 (38:51):
I started I started off in Arizona on a great
golf course growing up.
Speaker 2 (38:55):
Yeah, starting on the first t program.
Speaker 1 (38:57):
But eight year old Cam Jordan's walking walking eighteen holes
because pop's got to on the first tea program in June,
July and August in Arizona. Guess who didn't want to
be there? So I picked up every sport because of golf.
Speaker 4 (39:11):
Listen, listen, listen.
Speaker 3 (39:14):
At eight years old walk in the course, they would
have lost me. Now, eight years old walking in Arizona.
Oh one hundred and one degrees fifteen? Oh dad, what
are we doing that?
Speaker 4 (39:28):
What we're doing?
Speaker 1 (39:29):
Man? We can't That's what I'm saying, can't do this.
I was like, yo, basketball is inside. I want that.
Speaker 2 (39:34):
Uh you know, football is in like the four months.
Speaker 1 (39:37):
Okay that you know, all right, let's track and field springtime.
Let's keep that rolling. So that's hey, anything but anything.
But so then you know, and now everybody plays golf
and everybody's like, yeah, you gotta come golf, and I'm.
Speaker 2 (39:51):
Like, I got I got the attention span of a
six year old.
Speaker 4 (39:54):
I got sixty nine holes. I need a moment.
Speaker 3 (40:00):
You're right, but you know what, Your eyes ain't getting
no younger and all playing that basketball, and listen, you're
gonna want to pick something else up. That's a good
sport to play because you don't gotta run, you don't
gotta do nothing, and you can do what you do
and that means you talk your network and have a
good time.
Speaker 4 (40:17):
Facts.
Speaker 1 (40:18):
Look, you talk about you you golf with m J
four times, four times a week. Huh. That's just impressive.
And what at what point? At what point did that
come about the fourth to fourth week?
Speaker 4 (40:29):
Listen, I'm retired. He's definitely retired.
Speaker 3 (40:32):
So you know when you when when you don't got
no job and you don't gotta do nothing. Every day
is a Friday, and you go out there, hit the
hit the ball and then go chase and go find it,
then take care of the kids and you get home.
Speaker 4 (40:43):
That's it. That's all I.
Speaker 1 (40:44):
Got, right, lifelong friends from golf. I don't know if
I'm ever gonna have a lifelong friend from golf.
Speaker 4 (40:50):
That's crazy. List.
Speaker 3 (40:52):
Listen, you get out there, you get around the right circles,
you're gonna you don't want to do.
Speaker 4 (40:56):
I promise you could tell probably.
Speaker 1 (41:00):
Facts, but I'm not good enough to be competitive. So
there's only three things that I'm gonna come out for
golf For One, some one of my boys I haven't
seen in the really long time. He's like, yeah, man
me you know college. Two it's a charity event. Or
three it's best ball.
Speaker 2 (41:13):
I like, can I can help? I just can't leave
the fact that I can't leave it hurts.
Speaker 4 (41:20):
Don't worry.
Speaker 3 (41:20):
As soon as you get your game, all you gotta
do is you a feel good ones.
Speaker 4 (41:26):
Trust me.
Speaker 3 (41:26):
I know I know us and I say us as
d Lineman, we competitive. I promise you just you just
had him enough good ones. As soon as you start
hitting enough good ones.
Speaker 4 (41:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (41:41):
Facts. This next segment is called fun Facts with Cam
and Dwight.
Speaker 1 (41:54):
You know, so fun facts. I just want to let
you know. You know, when you're your ten year over
at the cold, say my ten yere, young Cam Jordan
with the Saints, Uh, did you know the most points
the Saints have scored in a game versus the Colts
was in twenty eleven.
Speaker 2 (42:10):
Sixty sixty two to seven and the Superdome.
Speaker 1 (42:13):
If you remember that one Peyton man pay Manning had
had the next injury, and.
Speaker 3 (42:18):
I tried not to remember that year. I tried not
to remember that year. That was the worst year of
my entire career. I think we won two games that year.
It was terrible. It was terrible.
Speaker 4 (42:32):
It was. And the thing is that year we ain't
have no preseason because I think we were. It was
like lockout, lockout. That was my rookie year, so we
had Yeah, we had a lockout. We didn't prepare, we
didn't know who. We thought Payton was going to be there.
Speaker 3 (42:45):
So the whole game plan was all centered around Payton
and all of a sudden, which men ain't gonna.
Speaker 4 (42:49):
Be out there?
Speaker 1 (42:50):
Oh Painter, Painter, not Peyton.
Speaker 4 (42:53):
It was Yeah, it was Painter, not paint as well.
Speaker 1 (42:57):
Yeah he got painted, which I remember I remem for
that game. I think I think I got my first
like it might have been one of my first fines.
It was like intentional. I might have I had a
later late hit on the quarterback. I was so hungry
for a sack man my rookie year, I had won
it wasn't that. Whatever was man one hundred, one hundred
and six seventeen and a half sacks later, We're okay, now, like.
Speaker 4 (43:20):
We're okay, You're good, alright.
Speaker 1 (43:23):
Fact number two. Look, so you know the transit between
the Saints and Coats would continue because you know the
Saints one their only Super Bowl in two thousand and nine.
Speaker 4 (43:32):
Versus the Colts. Sir, yes, sir, you know and another
moment I try to forget. I try.
Speaker 1 (43:39):
You got what you know you got, but you know.
Speaker 3 (43:42):
What, losing them, Oh, it never goes away. It never
goes away. I mean, yes, the win, it stays with
you longer, and that brings you to the tough times.
Speaker 4 (43:53):
Those ones that you lose.
Speaker 2 (43:57):
Man, you can't get them back.
Speaker 1 (44:00):
Okay, all right, well then we'll we'll finish this on
a positive now because you know, your only NFL touchdown
was versus the Saints in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 4 (44:11):
Let me tell you something two thousand and three, that game.
Let me let me explain to you were having that game.
Speaker 3 (44:17):
I wasn't supposed to play that game, all right, And
I remember having a crack rib and I was like, okay,
well you got a crack red. What are gonna do
shoot me up. So they injected my little rib right there.
I took all the little drugs I could take. I
was high as a kite, couldn't. I mean, I promise you.
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I was out there, couldn't feel nothing, couldn't feel nothing.
And I'm like, why am I even playing this game?
Why am I even playing this game? My face is numb.
I'm like, all right, here we go. And sure enough,
my only touchdown in my entire career is the game
that ethnically I probably shouldn't have played because I had
a crack rib.
Speaker 1 (45:00):
Jeez man, look I should I should have too, but
I only got one.
Speaker 2 (45:06):
My first one.
Speaker 1 (45:07):
First one was my first one was an interception off
massed effort and the end zone.
Speaker 2 (45:12):
I didn't even get no yack. I ain't get no
yack with.
Speaker 4 (45:14):
It big.
Speaker 2 (45:16):
Already, that's a tuddy.
Speaker 1 (45:20):
There should have been a second one against against the
Rams Jared goff uh Trey Henderson sack fumble.
Speaker 2 (45:26):
I school.
Speaker 1 (45:26):
I run eighty seven to the tuddy, eighty seven forty
yards in. The referee blows it dead, and of course
nobody hears it because everybody's chasing me.
Speaker 2 (45:35):
I'm a hook.
Speaker 4 (45:36):
Oh no, I'm scored.
Speaker 1 (45:39):
I dunk on a gold pull or whatever it was.
Whatever it was like, I'm like, I'm like, hell, yeah,
you know you look back, you see a flag. You're like, no,
not a flag.
Speaker 2 (45:47):
But whatever they was done.
Speaker 4 (45:49):
It was everybody over celebration, straight to the side.
Speaker 1 (45:55):
At least it was it was. It was a confirmed fumble.
So say the same office. Okay, okay, yeah, but god
when I tell you I'm on the sideline like you
run eighty seven after a drive where they came down
it was like a ten play drive.
Speaker 3 (46:08):
You will mustn't. Hey, listen, listen. You must have been
pushing it.
Speaker 4 (46:12):
You must have been wasn't Was it third? I was
third guy in goodness.
Speaker 1 (46:21):
Man either way. So whatever that is, but that that
was mine. So at least we got two together. You
know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (46:29):
We don't get, but we'll take it. We don't get,
but we will take it.
Speaker 1 (46:36):
Think every single time I appreciate you tapping in on
the pod, Big Dog off the edge of Cam Jordan's v.
Dwight Freeni, Hall of Famer Dwight Freenie, Oh Pro Dwight Freeni,
Super Bowl Champ Dwight FREENI Pro Bowl Dyke, Dwight Freedi.
I mean, what else can you say? You know, there's
nothing that you that you didn't set your mind to
that you accomplished in this game of football. I appreciate
you taking the time with the pot man.
Speaker 3 (46:58):
Appreciate you having me. I said, we got to stay together.
Get his quarterbacks. Please just keep heading them facts.
Speaker 1 (47:06):
If there's opportunity given, there's gonna be a opportunity to
take advantage of absolutely, man. I appreciate Dwight for tapping
in with the podcast. I appreciate my man for dropping
knowledge advice for the young, the old, me, them, they
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whoever needs to hear it.
Speaker 2 (47:29):
That's mister spin cycle right there. That's mister mister speed
the power.
Speaker 1 (47:34):
You know that was that was og. Hey, I'm rocking
Jay's on my feet and you know what I'm saying,
that heat on the fee is gonna be a game changer.
It may made me as a kid want to spend
It made me as a man want to be a
part of the Jordan brand. And you know so it's
a big shout out to the O g legend. You know,
I think that over his career sixteen years NFL clearly
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Hall of Fame, because now you know it ain't no
will be a Hall of Famer. He is a Hall
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