May 16, 2025 • 43 mins
Hour One of the Good Morning Football Podcast begins with a closer look at the issues swirling around Caleb Williams. Hosts Jamie Erdahl, Manti Te'o, Rashad Jennings, and Lawrence Guy discuss how the team handles issues and how Williams performs on the field. The table asks which QB will start for the Giants next season while looking at the most intriguing QB rooms in the NFL. Plus, we play Two Lies and a Truth!
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
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Speaker 2 (00:10):
If I could tell you how Friday and Friday before
the show started, you wouldn't even believe me. It's so
Friday in here. GMFB is happening right now, May sixteenth.
I'm Jamie Rtall here is a former seventh rounder. Two
of them sitting at the table. The exceeded expectations are
new friends Rashaan Jenny's and Lawrence Guy, super Bowl champion
New York Giant Mantito here as well. Everybody, we got
(00:35):
something to talk about. And it's happening in Chicago or
is it not happening? I'm not sure GMFB. Let's go
that's cold.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
Good Morning Football.
Speaker 4 (00:56):
Yeah, that's right, it's GMFB. How's everybody doing? Happy Friday?
Speaker 2 (00:59):
We have some things to discuss again, we're always so
stressed about May. What are we going to talk about?
The schedule release happened? Well, some Bears news came out yesterday.
You got family members talking about Caleb Williams. Sean, you
coming with your Caleb Williams thoughts this morning.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
I got some thoughts on there for Shure.
Speaker 4 (01:16):
Okay, good, okay, great, Well then and Lawrence.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Third day is a charm for you, GMAB how's life?
Speaker 5 (01:21):
Oh, it's amazing. Who could complain? You got a cup
of coffee in you? Maybe two cups?
Speaker 4 (01:28):
Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
The point is how many By the end of the
day you've done great? This week, We've been so happy
to have you. Okay, here we go. Friday is Friday.
If you're Kleb Williams. Perhaps we're less than four months
away from Bear's quarterback Caleb Williams making his sophomore debut,
and this time it'll be under new head coach Ben Johnson.
The Bear's hosts their season start their season opening with
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the Minnesota Vikings at Soldier Field, which is fascinating now because,
in an excerpt from a new book by Seth Wickersham
titled American Kings and Biography of the Quarterback, Williams, before
being drafted number one overall last season by the Bears,
said quote, I need to go to the Vikings.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
Carl Williams.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Caleb's father also told Wickersham, Chicago is the place quarterbacks
quote to dine on the herd.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
On Thursday, Bear's.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Head coach Ben Johnson had this to say about the comments.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
In the book.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
I don't know what's going on prior to him joining
the organization, but he is very proud to be a
Chicago Bear. That's what our conversations have included, and he's
really excited to get to work right now and be
the best version of himself for twenty twenty five. We
want to see growth from here to here over the
course of the season, and it's not going to be
linear growth. It's going to be a little bit of
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ups and downs and stair steps along the way. But
we want to see from Game one the game seventeen
that we're getting better as a whole. And that's not
just him, that's us as a team as well.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
What I can imagine is the infuriating part of all
of this is that the Chicago Bears were trending upward
in all sense of the way in the offseason. They
have a new head coach that everybody wanted. Their offensive
line has improved, defense was really good last season, they
drafted big playmakers.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
It was all working.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Now these comments come out, and the question becomes, do
the comments become.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
A distraction to a team like.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
This MAN'SI entering next season, or could you be in
that locker room and say this is absolutely irrelevant.
Speaker 6 (03:19):
Well, Jamie, I think that it's not a distraction at all.
And one guy that I really love watching in the NFL,
and he's partly one of the biggest faces in the NFL,
has a lot of distractions outside of himself with certain
things that his family has done, and that's Patrick Mahomes.
He's never himself has been a distraction in the locker room,
but you know, his family has been in the tabloids
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here or there, but it's never come from Patrick. So
I don't think in this instance that Caleb Williams is
going to be a distruction in the locker room. And
I think sequence of events and time of events is
very important as far as all of these little clippings,
and so I'm going to go through it when certain
quotes are made. So when he said that he didn't
want to go to the Bears, that was before the draft,
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that was before the whole combine, all of that stuff.
Looking back at it sitting back, I don't want to
go to draft. But he specifically said this, he wanted
to go to the Vikings after his combine meeting. So
anybody as a quarterback, we talked about this yesterday. Anybody
has a quarterback who sits in the room with Kevin
O'Connell is going to sit there and be like, you
know what, I want to come to your team. Yes,
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So I think I think a lot of times in
media is we're trying to make it something.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
Because we don't We haven't read the book.
Speaker 6 (04:28):
I just know based on when certain things happen that
it creates a different narrative. He's not saying it now
in May of twenty twenty five, I don't want to
play for the Bears.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
He's not saying I don't want to play for the Bears.
After he gets shafted by the Bears. He said that.
Speaker 6 (04:41):
Before even going through all the offseason stuff. He said
he wanted to be in Minnesota biking after done sitting
down with Kevin O'Connell and having that meeting with him.
So I don't think you could go into him thinking that.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
Oh, he's going to be a distraction just because of all.
Speaker 6 (04:54):
Of the time of events that all of these quotes
happen and at that combine.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
So not this last one, but the one before that.
The one killer is that that's the first one that
Josh McCown was that with Kevin, So Kevin O'Connell brings
in Josh mccount as the quarterbacks coach, and if you're
a quarterback here it was were like, I want to
sit in the room with these two for an entire season.
Speaker 4 (05:12):
That sounds great.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
Yeah, who wouldn't.
Speaker 6 (05:13):
I mean, who wouldn't If if I'm sitting there and
I had Vic Fangil and I'm sitting there as a
linebacker and I meet Vic Fangil and I'm talking with him,
I'm like, no, I want to play for you, Like
I know that number one, you're not gonna run a
whole bunch of men, and number two, you're going to
have two big dogs in front of me. That's going
to keep me clean. So obviously I want to go
to a place where I think that I'm best set up.
Kevin Williams, I think that's what he was referring to
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because he just got out of that meeting with the
Vikings and he wanted to go there.
Speaker 5 (05:37):
I agree with you. We have to look at it
as players. We can't control the narrative that is outside
that facility. All we could do at this time of
the year, and we're talking about this time of year,
this all season program. Rookie Munie can't just stop. This
is the brotherhood that we're starting to build. And when
we have a narrative what somebody else said, he said,
she said none that really matters to the situation. Uphand
(05:58):
did Caleb say it? He did not say it. He's
over here working hard as he can every single day,
night and that facility need to build this brotherhood. What's
his teammates trying to have one goal in mind, and
that is to win games. That's the whole goal. This
this thing the distraction. I don't see it there. What
I see there is brothers building this working out, blood, sweating, tears,
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trying to get to a main goal.
Speaker 7 (06:25):
And we all know what that always absolutely listen, I
want you as my lawyer if I ever get in
trouble because you got him out of a great hole.
Speaker 4 (06:33):
That's what the time.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
Boom. But it's so true.
Speaker 7 (06:40):
Though, when you think about the time frames and one
of the things you pointed out and bringing up with
Patrick Mahomes and understanding some of the off the field
issues that occurred around his name, wins cover sins.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
Patrick Mahomes is a winner. When you win they.
Speaker 7 (06:53):
Forget about all the off field attics and issues and
things of that nature. So what does Caleb Williams need
to do If he wants to flush all of this
down the toilet? He needs to go out on a
Monday night football game at home home opener. You got
three Pro Bowl offensive guys. You got Ben Johnson, who
is everybody's trying to find the next Sean McVay.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
Anyway, that young guy, that guru.
Speaker 7 (07:15):
This could potentially be it if you get a victory
at home and then you go away playing against the
fifteen and two Vikings and get another road win two
and oh very fast, I'm telling you everybody will forget about.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
That narrative rushout. I got a question.
Speaker 6 (07:29):
So you're a running back, you play right next to
the quarterback. If as a running back you're playing for
the Chicago Bears, it's May what it's May sixteenth? You
just found out about this book that's coming out or
whatever that your quarterback said months ago. When you guys
see them the next stay at because today's ota is
it's off season program. Do you say anything to them?
(07:49):
Do you give them support? If you're his running back,
what do you tell them if I'm his running back.
I'm definitely going up to you and talking like I
give you an example when I was with the New
York Giants and JPP is one of the most amazing
people ever. We knew what happened with the fireworks, right, Yeah,
So as soon as you see him in the locker room,
you can't just be like like I.
Speaker 7 (08:08):
Didn't say, you gotta go hold up to him, immediately,
give him a fake high five or something like awkwards like.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
Hey man, this is all good, baby, let's do this together.
Speaker 7 (08:17):
So somebody needs to go up to him very quickly,
a leader in a room. Somebody make a joke of it,
and then corral around him. He's a young talent who
is extraordinarily good, and he has to outperform, especially one
going against JJ McCarthy. This is the other quarterback that
was in his draft class who is a rookie on
the field, and he cannot be outperformed by him.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
I actually can't come up with a better situation that
could bring Ben Johnson and Kayleb Williams closer than this
current one. I mean, Matt Eberflus is a nice person,
but that was a disaster. What was going on last
year with Chicago, and it clearly was not a match
that was going to work between head coach and quarterback.
There's a Bruce Springsteen song called The Ties That Binds,
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and I'm like thinking about, like, this is a time,
this is something that.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
Would pull these two together.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
So I looked at the lyrics for quick There's a
line in the song where he goes, you sit and
wonder who's going to stop the rain, who will ease
the sadness, Who's going to quiet your pain? Ben Johnson,
will Cale Williams, Okay, there was a lot of rain,
the tears were flowing. Last year was painful. But you
have a coach that can get this right for you.
And I have to imagine rachade to your point that
the two of them see each other, and Ben Johnson
could not disarm the situation more if he's just like,
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we're good, don't worry about what's going on out there.
We can fix this thing now. If they do fix it,
the Chicago Bears could potentially have their first four thousand
yard passer around their hands, which as a franchise has.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
Never been done before.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
It's a feat that is a milestone that it's accomplished
by everybody else except the Bears.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
His head coach Calli Williams.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Head coach Ben Johnson revealed that he's pretty confident that
his guy will make that happen next season.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
What a great opportunity we have to do something that
really has never been done. There hasn't been a four
thousand yard passer here in this franchise, and I think
Caleb is going to be the first one and one
of many years, many seasons to come where he's able
to accomplish that feat. So I see a chance for
greatness here for him. He's been communicated that way and
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he feels the same way.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Okay, not guaranteeing that it'll happen next season, but multiple
seasons for Caleb Williams in his career. So it's not
really an if, but it's a win. When do you
think this could happen for kill Williams, that he could
become a four thousand yeard passer?
Speaker 3 (10:21):
Oh? This year?
Speaker 6 (10:22):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (10:22):
Oh, this is I think you have it this year.
Speaker 7 (10:25):
Last year he threw for thirty five around thirty five
hundred yards, He had what twenty touchdowns, only six interceptions.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
He actually played pretty well.
Speaker 7 (10:33):
I mean the media in the narrative around him was
pretty rough. But when you take an account that now
he's in his second year as a professional athlete, and
then he bring in Ben Johnson, and also don't forget
that they drafted Luther Burden the third to help with
that wide receiver cord.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
And don't forget they got first.
Speaker 7 (10:48):
Round draft pick Lovely Coaston Loveland out of Michigan. He's
a guy that could come in and be like a
Sam Laporter.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
I think he could.
Speaker 7 (10:55):
The trajectory of him could be like a Travis Kelcey.
They both six six coming out two point fifty.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
Can open the middle of the field.
Speaker 7 (11:02):
So I think the best future for him is ahead
and throwing for four thousand.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
Think what, that's crazy.
Speaker 7 (11:08):
It's been what one hundred and eight what seasons, I
don't know what it is, but the franchise never has
that is crazy, never to have somebody throw for four thousand.
So I think he can do it. I'm cheering for
him to do it.
Speaker 6 (11:20):
But then it also gets perspective in our first question
as to why there was hesitancy from Caleb Williams and
going to Chicago before everything transpired.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
But you know, to your point, rare shod.
Speaker 6 (11:30):
He threw for thirty five hundred yards and twenty touchdowns.
That is with the worst yards per game team two
hundred eighty three yards per game. They're ranked twenty eighth
in points per game, they were thirty first and passing
yards per game.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
They led the league in allowing sacks.
Speaker 6 (11:47):
Caleb Williams was sacked sixty eight times as a rookie
in twenty twenty four. Yeah, he's still through for thirty
five hundred yards. So what does Ben Johnson do for
Caleb Williams. Well, this is what Ben Johnson did for
Jared Goff the three seasons that Jared Goff and Ben
Johnson were together. Twenty twenty two forty four hundred yards,
twenty twenty three forty five hundred yards, twenty twenty four
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forty six hundred yards. That is what Ben Johnson does
for a quarter. That is what I am anticipating and
I'm excited to see him do with Caleb Williams because
if Caleb Williams and he didn't do it alone, but
if Caleb Williams can do what he did last year
with what he had and the type of pressure that
he was going through last year I have no doubt
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in my mind that he will throw for four thousand yards,
not just next year, but to your point, where shot
year after year after year.
Speaker 5 (12:35):
If we can't forget what Ben Johnson did this offseason.
He beat up the office line. He brought in talent,
one of my former teammates, Joe Tooney, who has blought
for Tom Brady, who has blocked for Patrick Mahomes, multiple
Super Bowl winner. He is bringing experience for Caleb to
be protected. And let's see the scheme that Ben Joshon brings,
that Mardern West Coast style, that fast paced, that script.
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We don't get the ball out the hands, and with
Doyle being a former tight end coach, all we can
expect that they're probably gonna use to tie.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
It's more in the passing game.
Speaker 5 (13:06):
You get a twelve person out with two passing tight
ends out there, we don't know what's going on. We
could see a lot of passes going a lot of
great protection. And like I said, when you beef up
the offensive line on the offeas and you're saying one
thing that we're going to protect our quarterback at all costs,
and you ain't going to get hit like that and
if you ain't getting a hit like that, what is
that number going to go to this year?
Speaker 4 (13:26):
All right, can we do an exercise that I just
came up with at the table.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
Yeah, okay, let's us pretend you three have to pretend
like you're Kleb Williams teammate.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
And you inspired me Rashad by.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Saying like, this is what I would do if I
walked in the locker room and all this stuff was
going on. You three played with super Bowl winning quarterbacks,
Drew Brees with the Saints, Eli Manning with the Giants,
and Tom Brady with the England Patriots.
Speaker 4 (13:46):
Those guys, amongst many other.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
Things, they were game tape guys. They watched film, they studied,
they crushed it. There's another part of this book that
claims that Caleb Williams, which is like by himself in
the Chicago Bears building, like, didn't know how to watch
film or no one was watching with him. It's just
a crazy thing for a rookie. If you were one
of his teammates, and you guys have been around these quarterbacks,
how was a quarterback supposed to go about watching film?
Speaker 4 (14:09):
Who was supposed to be with him?
Speaker 2 (14:10):
What did you guys observe in your careers that say
this is how a guy like Breeze, Manning or Brady
does it.
Speaker 6 (14:17):
Yeah, well, there's a saying Jamie that it says, see
a lot, see a little, see a little, see a little,
see a lot. What that means is when you don't
know what the heck you're looking at, When you don't
even know what the heck to look for, you're gonna
watch everything. And when you watch everything, you learn nothing.
I remember talking to Dwight Freeney. I have my rookie
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my second year. One of those years. I'm over there
just watching every single clip and Dwight Freene comes into
the room. He's like, bro, what are you doing. I
was like, Bro, I'm trying to study for this game.
He was like, how do you how long you think
it took that offense to learn that playbook? A whole
off season?
Speaker 3 (14:53):
Right?
Speaker 6 (14:53):
He's like, do you think that you honestly learned their
entire playbook in a week. I was like, you know what, No,
I don't think I could learn. He's like, exactly, don't
study too much where you freeze learn enough where you
can play fast. Your instincts can take over and you'll
be able to have some success. So to your point, Jamie,
you need somebody in that room. You mentioned Drew Brees.
(15:14):
I remember walking out of the meeting rooms late at
night thinking I was the last guy in the building
and I'm passing the quarterbacks room and I look in
and who do I see in there?
Speaker 3 (15:22):
Not only Drew Brees, but I see Taysom Hill.
Speaker 6 (15:25):
Taysomone was just Drew's little shadow, just learning all of
his habits.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
How does he watch film?
Speaker 6 (15:30):
You need that person, that veteran presence in that room
that can sit you down and say, hey, listen, this
is what we're looking for, this is how to break
down film. This is what is important. This is this
what this is what isn't important?
Speaker 7 (15:41):
Absolutely, And it's one thing that Tom Couflin said. I
took notes every time he spoke in front of us.
You know, y'all know how it is. Your head coach
gets up in front and spiels and Tom Couughlin always
he's quotal. He's just a walking quote, right. And one
of the things he said that always stuck with me.
He said that the faces may change, but the expectations
never will, and that always resonated with me, and Caleb
(16:04):
has to understand that too. The facials change of who
the franchise quarterback is, but the expectations of holding that
helm will never change, and you have to become a
pro versus an NFL athlete. Your pro is the guy
that comes excuse me, Rather, the NFL guy is the
guy that comes in bookoo talent, highly rated, but he
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falls off because of the media, because of injury and
not knowing how to battle through all of these things.
The pro athlete is a guy that comes in to do,
does what's right, Understand how to keep the kitchen fire
away from those you who you are delivering the food too,
and become a great chef.
Speaker 5 (16:45):
Know let's understand what s what is a pro? A
pro getting to know your teammates a pro getting to
know your opponents. Bill used to say all the time,
know your opponents. And when you come to great quarterbacks,
you come to young quarterback coming lead. Get to know
your teammates, get to know your opponents. Like you said,
if you see a little, you see a lot. And
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when you really break that down, you gotta understand who
you're facing that corner. You gotta understand what wide receiver
skill set is what place you need to do, and
you watch film together. This is not me and the coaching.
This is a me, my offensive line, me my wide receivers,
me and my running back. We need to watch it
together because we're building this unit. We're building this bond.
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You know if I have to hiccup on the field,
that you're going to protect me. Hey I misread? Okay, cool,
you're going to fix the route. Hey, I know you
didn't hit that time correctly. I'm gonna dump it down
to my next player. It's all about relationships on the
field and off the field. It's all into one. And
like you say, you see a little, you see a lot.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
Oh my gosh, you guys that was great also, I
kind of all all.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
The great we need to be as teammates.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
Yeah, has everyone filed their paperwork or not?
Speaker 4 (17:56):
Still to come on GMFE.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
Speaking of the Giants and the Tom Coffin era, they're
trying to move on to a new era, the Brian
Deeble and who the quarterback is going to be?
Speaker 3 (18:04):
Era?
Speaker 2 (18:05):
Two veteran guys who have thrown over four thousand yards
and a rookie walk into a bar. No, no, no, they
walk into the practice field with the Giants, and we
got to figure out which one is starting on our
center to start this season.
Speaker 6 (18:15):
Right vanside, right, we are ready to go here on GMMFB,
we got the quotes, we got the quarterbacks. Now only
New York Giants quarterbacks, but we got Cleveland Brown quarterbacks.
Which quarterback room is most intriguing. There's more coming up
on GMFBAN.
Speaker 3 (18:42):
Good Morning Football.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
I always argue it is the most thrilling single television
shot you.
Speaker 4 (18:48):
Can see in an NFL game.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
Team scores a touchdown, you look at the coach and
he's holding up this.
Speaker 4 (18:52):
We're going for two. We're starting right there.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
On the goal line and we're trying to put two
more points on the board instead of just one with
the kick two topics on GMFB, we're going for two.
Let's start with this one. We stumbled into an original
question yesterday, and that is who is going to start
for the Giants? So QB one in Week one, We're
going to dive deeper into this subject matter now, Mantai,
who should be under center for the Giants Week one?
Speaker 6 (19:12):
Well, yesterday me and Bill Henschel, one of our producers,
had a great conversation right at this table during one
of our breaks, and we're talking about this whole situation,
and Bill brought up some great points. I thought that
Jackson Dart should be starting for a week one.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
Bill, he dropped the bomb on me. He said, listen, sen.
Speaker 4 (19:29):
Here that Bill is an Eagles fan. Everybody. By the way, Bill,
let's just filter that.
Speaker 6 (19:33):
Thank you for the background, Jamie, thank you for the background.
But Bill was saying, would it be more advantageous for
them to put Jackson Dart.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
In later in the season.
Speaker 6 (19:44):
So in the event that they put him in early,
like I said, like I thought they should if he
doesn't play well right out the gate, the stars are
it's already written in the stars.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
You're going to be gone after this season.
Speaker 6 (19:54):
But if you have because you have a Russell Wilson
and a Jamis, I don't like how people leave Jamis
out the equation. Because you have those two quarterbacks in
your locker room. It gives you the luxury of putting
Hi on a sideline and having him be able to
mature without having to go and face a blitz, without
having having him to go and face a Philadelphia Egos defense,
allows him to grow that way now, towards the end
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of the season, you put Jackson Dart in there, and
hopefully with the growth and the maturation that he's experienced
throughout the year, that the trajectory of the New York
Giants is going up towards the end.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
Of the year. I'm not saying that you're going to
have a winning record.
Speaker 6 (20:32):
But you want to make sure that you're going in
upward trajectory. And I liked what Bill was saying with
with having Jackson Dart, I'm going in towards the end
of the season, So I agree with.
Speaker 5 (20:40):
I'm right there with you. I feel the same way.
We have a player like Rust out there playing the
way he's been playing for years and year. He is proven,
he knows how to work in this league. I played
against him personally, I hate it playing against them. I'm
I'm like, you're gonna miss me when I'm trying to
get this. I want to take me fall on national TV,
Like come on. But when you have a young quarterback
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in New York, you need to under saying he needs
to develop, he needs to understand the system, he needs
to get.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
N a fail experience.
Speaker 5 (21:11):
So when you put Russ under our center, you could
go throughout the days in the weeks and say this
is what you do, this is how you handle the situation,
this is how you maneuver around the meetings. And like
you said, you can't leave out James. He is a talent.
He's been around the league. He has performed time after time.
He has been through the ups and downs of this league,
and he could tell these young men this is how
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we're going to do it and keep the spirit up.
I've never met a person or saw an interview that
had the spirit like he had. And this is just
going to benefit And now if the season is not
going the way he wanted to go, yes, you could
do in the second half, put Dart in and give
some more playing time and it start rotating it in.
We have seen it done with the Patriots, you know,
put Drake Mason's towards the after a couple of games
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as he built a little bit of experience with the
team and the culture.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
I love it.
Speaker 7 (22:00):
Listen, without a doubt, it has to be mister Unlimited
himself has to start off.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
Mister Danger Russ has to start it off. And it's
because it's written on the wall for you bring.
Speaker 7 (22:11):
In Jackson Darrk. You drafted him first round, Okay, you
want to develop him. Matter of fact, you want to
develop him so much that you actually have somebody there
for him. James Winston. He is the morale of the
locker room. He is the positive energy. He is the voice,
the veteran that will teach these guys how to become pros.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
Wow, who is doing the work.
Speaker 7 (22:33):
That is Russell Wilson out there collaborating with the one
of the greatest receivers that come through. He the twelve
hundred yards for four different quarterbacks and elite neighbors. So
I think you have to start off with Russ And
this is a recipe that they did with Kurt Warner
when Eli Manning came in nine games.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
Later and took over.
Speaker 4 (22:50):
It's such a good point.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
And it's hard though, because you got Joe Shane and
Brian Dable, who many would say that they are on
the clock this season. They have to perform. They have
to find a recipe for success with this team. But
is that the instant gradition with the quarterback that you
moved up to get in the first round, or is
it you want to get this guy to a second
and third contract. So That is a don't envy you,
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Joe Shane. That is a decision that you are going
to have to make and we will continue to discuss
it in GMMB. Second topic on Going for two, let's
take the Giants out of this. Okay, the question becomes
which quarterback room and situation intrigues you more if you
don't talk about the New York Giants, Manti. The obvious
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one comes to mind in the Cleveland Browns.
Speaker 4 (23:35):
But you got the Saints, you got the Steelers. What
else are you looking at?
Speaker 6 (23:38):
Obviously me coming being a former New Orleans saying I
gotta go with the Saints. I don't think the Saints
or anybody in the NFL expected Derek Carr.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
Maybe they did, I don't know.
Speaker 6 (23:47):
The type of conversation that they may have had with
Mickey Loomis the gm over there. But Derek Carr retiring.
I think it just puts the Saints in a very
very challenging situation.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
I really do.
Speaker 6 (23:59):
The topic of this segment is going for two. Literally, now,
New Orleans, you have two quarters on your depth chart.
I know technically you have four, but you don't really
only have two.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
You have Tyler Schuck and Spencer Ratler. That's all you have.
You have an older.
Speaker 6 (24:13):
Rookie coming in and you have a second year player
that's coming in from that that's trying to build off
of a rookie year that it was all around rough
for the New Orleans Saints. So I think looking at
the New Orleans Saints and that offense, it's gonna it's
gonna be a challenge. And you know, I really hope
that Alvin Kamara is ready. I'm obviously me and Alvin
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Kamara is is.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (24:38):
He was drafted in my first year there in New.
Speaker 6 (24:39):
Orleans and he had to carry a heavy load the
past couple of years. But I think it's gonna be
heaviest Lawrence going into twenty.
Speaker 5 (24:46):
I agree. I'm gonna go with the office. I'm gonna
go with the Browns, right. It is what it is.
We understand the dynamic in that room. There was a
lot of first round talent in that room. And we
got Joe, we got Kenny, we got Gabriel wish Ador.
There's so many people there and I could say there's
gonna be a competition. There's gonna be something there that's
going to spark the fans. Size it's going to spark
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the team's eyes. I know one thing personally, Joe was
one of my teammates, one of my favorite teammates, asked that,
But we know what he brings to the table, right,
year after year after year, sitting full of of being
getting caught back into the game, and all you can
do is joyful and like, yeah, I'm back in here.
This is amazing. And he contributes. But what he's going
to do for this group, though he's going to leave
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this group, He's going to develop this group. He's going
to be that mentor that these young talents need to
have in the NFL. I've never met a person in
my life, like I can say, it's never met a
person in my life that cared about another person just
how Joe does.
Speaker 4 (25:43):
Wow.
Speaker 7 (25:44):
And with this team, I'm following them up. I gotta
go with the Browns because they listen. It's been so
much media hype around who's going to be the starting
quarterback there? Like you said, his first round draft picks
all over the place there as well as I have
never been on a football team where I've seen four
quarterbacks on a roster five.
Speaker 4 (26:03):
Technically five technically.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
Yeah, four emotionally.
Speaker 5 (26:12):
Yes, yes, forget about that.
Speaker 7 (26:16):
But in that situation, you're only going to carry three realistically.
Matter of fact, when I was in Jacksonville, I was
listed as the third quarterback on the depth chart for
eight games. That just goes to show you Cats ain't
carrying four quarterbacks on their team. One of them at
least has to get cut and try to put them
back on the practice squad. Which if you put them
on a practice squad, guess what they gonna get picked.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
Up somewhere else.
Speaker 7 (26:38):
So it's a matter of fact of which quarterback does
Cleveland Browns want to let go of.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
Is it Joe Flacco?
Speaker 7 (26:44):
Is it can you pickt is it your third round
draft pick in Gabriel who was up for Heisman at
some point in the run, or is it shardor Sanders?
One of them has to go and I can't wait
to see the decision they make.
Speaker 4 (26:56):
Do you ever get put in as an emergency theirs?
Speaker 7 (26:58):
I wish I would have no, just just disclaiming we
only had a while wildcat package for me, but you
know I would have tried to sling it and try
to make something happen.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
Yeah, oh my god, you get that opportunity.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
Well, now, unfortunately, we already know that it is one
of your truths, because we're going to play two lies
and a truth today with Lawrence Sky and Rashaw Jenny's
and we've got.
Speaker 4 (27:18):
To take that out of round or two lies and
the truth.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
The Pittsburgh Steelers play at the New York Jets and
against the Green Bay Packers this season. Is there a
quarterback going to be a guy that used to play
for both of those teams.
Speaker 4 (27:30):
We don't know.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
We have to figure out the future of Aaron Rodgers
and the potential of him signing in Pittsburgh. Until then,
we did find out that the schedule makers at the
NFL had to.
Speaker 4 (27:39):
Wait that uncertainty.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
So when we hear from NFL VP Broadcast Planning and
Scheduling Mike North, he said it is challenging to put
together a schedule like Pittsburgh's knowing what we don't know.
Speaker 8 (27:50):
I think if we knew for certain that Aaron was
going to be the quarterback of the Steelers, we might
have done something a little different in Week one with
the Steelers game and maybe the one hedge maybe Packers
Steelers if you put that game in a window where
it does become something even bigger. We wouldn't want to unbalance,
you know, maybe one of the partners. So if it
fell on a Sunday afternoon, for instance, it becomes a
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dominant story of the day. Aaron's first game against his
old team, So put it in a national window. If
Aaron's the quarterback, it's a great story. If Aaron's not
the quarterback, it's still Packers Steelers Sunday Night football in
week eight. Like con said, Howard would say, it sounds
like a football game, so tried to play it.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
Down the middle.
Speaker 8 (28:29):
We don't know anything more than anybody else. The schedule
was built, you know, for coach Tomlin and for the Steelers,
and if Aaron decides to play, it probably just makes many,
if not all, the Steelers' games a little more interesting.
Speaker 4 (28:41):
Yeah, we certainly hope so, all right.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
The Rams and Seahawks recently teamed up to provide more
than ten thousand dollars worth of shoes to youth served
by the Boys and Girls.
Speaker 4 (28:49):
Club of Pasadena.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
The donation helping kids whose home and school communities were
impacted by the devastating Eaton fire out here in Pasadena
and Los Angeles in January, so division fos perhaps, but
working together to support impact at LA Youth.
Speaker 4 (29:04):
That's pretty cool. Well done, Ramsom.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
Seahawks still to come on GMFB. We are getting to
know Lawrence and Rashad just a little bit better. But
how well can we pass the test? Two lies and
a truth? Everybody's going to play. Mantai and I are
we good listeners in the commercial? Have we learned enough
about them?
Speaker 3 (29:21):
I think so we're going to see. Yeah, GMN be
coming up football.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
Manta and I were just trying to engage these guys
in conversation in the commercial. So we are fully prepared
for two lies and the truth.
Speaker 4 (29:45):
Here's the game.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
When we have new friends at the table, we like
to make sure we send them back out of the
world knowing them a little bit better. There will be
three statements on the board. You each get to go twice.
We have to suss out the truth. There will be
two lies on the board at one truth, and then
tell your little story when it comes to the truth. Rashad,
you are up for two lies and the truth. Walk
(30:06):
us through it, my friends.
Speaker 3 (30:08):
Right here we go two lies in a truth.
Speaker 7 (30:12):
Hey, I beat Steph Curry in the game of course
this is true because Seth Curry went to Liberty University.
I went to Liberty University my senior year before he
transferred out to do I played stuff one on one
just in the court, horse one easy, burned them down.
Now number two b I turned down being a bachelor
(30:35):
after season twenty four Dance with the Stars. Went in
that show, right, I had an opportunity to beat the bachelor.
I decided, Nah, you know what, I don't want to
do that.
Speaker 3 (30:46):
It's kind of not my swag. So I said, no,
didn't want to do it.
Speaker 7 (30:50):
See, while I was in Jacksonville, I tried on Jacksonville
mascot jackson Deville costume. Now obviously being in Jacksonville, I loved,
you know, exploring things, and I had an opportunity to
try on the mascot.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
So I did it.
Speaker 4 (31:05):
He did.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
Which one is the truth? Which one is it? Tay,
you go first?
Speaker 2 (31:09):
Okay, I have been listening to Rashad in the commercial,
and I think the truth is b And it's not
because the bachelor is not your swag. It's not why
I feel like you mentioned that after you won Dancing
with the Stars that you met your now wife, like
right away and so I feel like you're like, no,
I'm already locked down.
Speaker 4 (31:28):
I already have a single rose to give to somebody.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
So I think after your mirror ball.
Speaker 4 (31:34):
You then you turned down being on the Bachelor.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
Okay, I also think it's B but it's for different reasons.
Speaker 6 (31:39):
Number one, when ra Seat was reading C he read
every single word and that was the truth.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
He wouldn't know exactly when he put on that masscar uniform.
Speaker 6 (31:50):
Now Number two, A, I don't think it's A because
he did say Steph went to Duke and he went
to Davidson.
Speaker 4 (31:56):
I think you went to.
Speaker 6 (31:57):
So I do know that about Steph Curry. So I'm
going to agree with you, Jamie, it's B. B's the truth.
Speaker 4 (32:03):
Okay, are just susting you out?
Speaker 3 (32:05):
Come on clarify a little bit.
Speaker 7 (32:07):
It was Seth that went to Liberty Universe his brother
oh Sam, Yeah, yeah, yeah he came.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
So does that change anything?
Speaker 4 (32:14):
I don't know, LG.
Speaker 3 (32:16):
What do you got what for? God? Like? No, what?
It's good?
Speaker 5 (32:21):
But I want to be different.
Speaker 4 (32:23):
Okay, do it.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
I'm going I'm going with.
Speaker 5 (32:26):
I've been in those shoes sometimes, Like you want to
try on the costume, Like, hey, is.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
It not hot in there.
Speaker 5 (32:32):
Let me know it.
Speaker 4 (32:33):
Does it change?
Speaker 2 (32:34):
Does it change your answer to know that Jacksonville were
was a speedo?
Speaker 4 (32:37):
Does that concern you whatsoever?
Speaker 3 (32:39):
No?
Speaker 6 (32:40):
Okay, right, yeah, I'm all in it.
Speaker 3 (32:46):
So you guys are great because it is big.
Speaker 7 (32:49):
Actually did turn down that opportunity. It wasn't my function
way style.
Speaker 3 (32:54):
Oh my god, man, y'all won't put the show that.
Speaker 7 (32:59):
You know a little bit early when I was single
and I didn't want to do the show. So there
it is.
Speaker 4 (33:05):
Wow, pedals, I mean supported by the NFLO. The shield
was into this.
Speaker 3 (33:11):
To happen.
Speaker 4 (33:12):
Wow, that's great.
Speaker 5 (33:14):
Let's see.
Speaker 4 (33:14):
Let's see.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
Oh my god, let's see what you got.
Speaker 5 (33:17):
Oh all right? Two lies one true. Yes, Hey, I
took batting practice with fellow lump Barry Buds. If you
all know, I went to Arizona State. We all had
the lump come back, but pat run We do everything
there and I'm like, hey, can't give me some lesson
And He's.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
Like, who are you?
Speaker 5 (33:38):
I'm like, Hey, this is who I am.
Speaker 3 (33:40):
Let me do it.
Speaker 5 (33:40):
Like sure, we're doing it, but having fun. You know,
this is a fellow lump. B I am a vegan, right,
so when it comes down to trying to recover from
the off season. You want to do everything for your body,
and when you look at the vegan diet, it helps inflammation,
it helps everything. It makes you feel better when you
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wake up in the morning, and it's the best thing
for your life, right. See was it an anime? Colub
with the Patriot? With my teammates who doesn't like a
good Naruto who doesn't know?
Speaker 4 (34:15):
And you sold us with the character too.
Speaker 5 (34:17):
Dragon ball Z who doesn't like that? And when you're
with a group of people that could sit there and
enjoy the characters enjoyed that, why not start a group?
Speaker 2 (34:30):
Well, do your cart cell on the anime club hard.
So nothing stresses me out more than veganism. Not because
that I don't respect it. I can imagine that it
helps wonders with the information. But I have the exact
opposite approach to food. I think I think you're I
think you're a vegan just because of course it would
be a vegan. Yet you're still able to accomplish that body.
Speaker 4 (34:50):
That's insane.
Speaker 3 (34:50):
Nah, I don't think you a vegan, Jamie. I don't
think it began.
Speaker 6 (34:53):
Why because we work together with the Charger Zone. There
are some chicken and caseo nachos.
Speaker 5 (34:58):
That can change saying that's all we had back then.
Speaker 6 (35:02):
Maybe, But I also think that I think it's a
for U LG.
Speaker 3 (35:07):
I think it said, what do you think shot that stuff?
You know what? I'm kind of sold on C. So
I think that's the truth.
Speaker 7 (35:14):
I think there was an anime club or the patrons teammates,
you had fun and enjoyed it, and you know, it's
one of them.
Speaker 3 (35:18):
Things I'm gonna go with. C. Are you sure not
being No, I don't think you're vegan. I think it's see.
Speaker 5 (35:26):
Let's see it is C in nineteen Wow, we had
an anime club. ME and a bunch of our teammates
gotta go to fandom in Boston, and it was the
best thing about it. But everybody might think I'm a
vegan because in the GQ article on the online, it's not.
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I was vegan because I did an interview saying how
I go towards a more of a plant based diet
in the off season, me three times a year. So
it kind of just got a little put out there, like, Hey,
imagine me going to training camp and they're like, you vegan.
I'm like, I'm like, no, yeah, the chicken wing.
Speaker 4 (36:06):
How does there an article in GQ about you?
Speaker 3 (36:09):
Who knows you don't ask?
Speaker 4 (36:11):
Don't ask questions?
Speaker 2 (36:15):
Wait, I mean the fact that you guys are wearing
credentials at an anime conference is perfect.
Speaker 4 (36:19):
Here up, go ahead, right right second, let's see.
Speaker 7 (36:22):
All right, Two truths in a lie again, let's go
at it. I have my first sip of alcohol at
the age of forty years old.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
Now you know alcohol is not my thing.
Speaker 4 (36:32):
How old are you now?
Speaker 3 (36:33):
I am forty Okay, I'm forty years old right now.
Speaker 7 (36:36):
Number two, Eli Manning asked me for dance advices after
winning Dancing with the Stars.
Speaker 3 (36:41):
They did a little deal. After I won Dancing with
the Stars, they did a commercial. He asked for some advice. Yeah, simple, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 7 (36:47):
See baker bread, It's one of my hobbies. I love bacon,
goes against what partners my romanticism.
Speaker 3 (36:55):
I love cooking. So bacon is a hobby of mine
and bread is a faith. So these are two truths
in a lie. Excuse me? One truth, two lines, which
is which I'm gonna go?
Speaker 6 (37:07):
Okay, so I'm gonna go see you why Because he
dropped a bar earlier today in the show where you
talked about make sure that the fire in the kitchen
doesn't burn the people that are serving the food or
eating the food, something like that. So that's so the
fact that Rashad talked about food and kitchens and in
that manner, I think the truth Jamie is going to
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be seen baking baking bread is a copy of mine.
Speaker 2 (37:32):
While I wouldn't put it past Eli for asking your
advice on something, Eli Manning and the Mannings in general
are just kind of like those people that are good
at everything annoyingly so so I feel like he didn't need.
Speaker 4 (37:42):
Your dance advice.
Speaker 2 (37:44):
And if you're already forty and alcohols are, think, dang it,
I'm gonna go a because I kind of want to
hear the story behind this.
Speaker 4 (37:51):
Now go ahead, LG.
Speaker 3 (37:54):
See.
Speaker 5 (37:54):
I hope you got would have picked the same one out.
It's follow along with this star.
Speaker 4 (37:58):
Why would he try it? You talking about about we.
Speaker 5 (38:01):
Know you would dancing with the start we want, So
that's a good for be But matter had a point
You did bring up that that kitchen crow like you
can't bring the food by the fire will get burn,
And I'm gonna go with see because of that it's
obvious that that be might be it, but a little
too often good.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
All I know is that we all have terrible memories
because no one can correctly.
Speaker 4 (38:24):
Quote Rashad from that segment.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
Like we've all attempted and it's not where the.
Speaker 3 (38:29):
They move out.
Speaker 7 (38:30):
So a ladies, I took my first simple of any
alcohol ever just this year, April twenty seventh, did go
and I had it with a glass of my wife.
Speaker 3 (38:40):
Oh she's gonna be mad.
Speaker 4 (38:41):
Oh yeah, guys, okay, no.
Speaker 3 (38:45):
Go on.
Speaker 7 (38:45):
I've never drink alcohol DW in my life because of
the issue that my father had. And I said one
day when I'm married, I would share my first class
ye wine with my wife.
Speaker 3 (38:53):
And I did it. Oh okay it is and our.
Speaker 2 (38:55):
Thoughts and being a romantic, how did it go?
Speaker 4 (38:57):
Is it going to be night?
Speaker 7 (38:59):
I had candles burning, all kinds of stuff that we had,
the music, we danced, did a bunch to day's right,
have fun.
Speaker 3 (39:05):
So now that's why I got two kids. So I'm
married now it's fine. It's supposed to do. I'm it
is hot. It was hot.
Speaker 7 (39:14):
The wine was hot out of the first time shipping it.
Speaker 3 (39:16):
But you know, being out a ta Meccola is a
wide country. I'll be able to join.
Speaker 6 (39:20):
Lord so okay, cool, some big bread on that table.
Speaker 4 (39:26):
All right.
Speaker 5 (39:29):
Two lives, one truth, Hey with at a Vegas poop
party and out the bouncer for one summer. I was
a a Vegas pool party bouncer. Four summer. We all
know I'm from Vegas. I got a whole Vegas sleeve
on me. They go, you see it. You see the
little Vegas thing right there. That could be it. You know,
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I'm a big I'm a typical bouncher out here. B
I'm a Mickey Mouse tattoo. We're a big Disney's fan.
Like we go to Disney all the time. We go
like you know, verse of all that, like this could
be it, right, See.
Speaker 4 (40:06):
Well that's the last see.
Speaker 5 (40:11):
You kicking.
Speaker 3 (40:14):
So we know that the truth good want to be set?
Look it up?
Speaker 4 (40:20):
You had Duncan.
Speaker 5 (40:21):
Duncan was Ben Affleck. Hey, you're talking about Boston. You're
talking about Ben Affleck, Matt Damon. This is the time
I am telling you Marky, Mark all them always around
the area. This is it. It's always a good time
to have great talk. It's always a good time to
have a donuts ARCADEK brought a lot of people into
(40:42):
the facility consistence.
Speaker 2 (40:44):
Okay, Well, I mean I love these segments because they
just breed questions. And now I just want to know
if you were on that commercial set with the Dunkin
Donuts in the super Bowl.
Speaker 4 (40:51):
But that's for the commercial question.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
I think I want your life story to be so
fascinating that not only can you spin it in the
anime club, but you can also be muscle at a
Vegas pool party. So I I want your side hustle
to be a Vegas Fool party bouncer.
Speaker 6 (41:07):
Well, I did ask l G where he's from, and
he said he is from Vegas before before this segment started.
But then also his first two lines in the Truth
was he was he went to an anime thing. So
that also leads me to think that it could be B.
I think she is a little too obvious. So I'm
between A and B. So I'm gonna go he has
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a lot of tats. Yeah, I'm gonna go BE. He
has a Mickey Mouth tattoo shot.
Speaker 7 (41:33):
Yeah, I'm right there with you. I'm thinking that leaning
more towards B. H. I'm sticking with Bee.
Speaker 3 (41:38):
Man.
Speaker 7 (41:39):
I think I got you. I think I got you.
I'm one hundred percent.
Speaker 3 (41:42):
Muscle, Are you sure? Yeah? Where is it on my legs?
Speaker 5 (41:51):
I got a massive Mickey Mouse hat. And the story
that happens is my daughter had johnn and she was
very yellow in the hospital, so he used to call
a bell and cover big Disney fans. I got them
Mickey Mouse out out with the building and the beeft
Wow inside of it. It is one of those things.
It surprises everybody. Imagine being on the training table and
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then we'll get that what was that you just made?
Speaker 2 (42:19):
That's what I That's what I did when I saw
this picture of Rashan Jennings going out to break on
gmf B two Lies and the Truth. We learned something
new about everybody.
Speaker 4 (42:29):
Like what is that? Why do you have steel the
official hotel of Rose Pedals.
Speaker 2 (42:41):
I have to imagine the nfl p A is a
great organization, but we were just convinced that Laurence Guy
should be the anime nfl p A presidents, like, I mean,
there is me bring.
Speaker 3 (42:51):
You in the player to join the club.
Speaker 2 (42:54):
I see it was an anime voice actor in your future.
I do too, this boy killing like we're doing on
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Speaker 2 (00:10):
If I could tell you how Friday and Friday before
the show started, you wouldn't even believe me. It's so
Friday in here. GMFB is happening right now, May sixteenth.
I'm Jamie Rtall here is a former seventh rounder. Two
of them sitting at the table. The exceeded expectations are
new friends Rashaan Jenny's and Lawrence Guy, super Bowl champion
New York Giant Mantito here as well. Everybody, we got
(00:35):
something to talk about. And it's happening in Chicago or
is it not happening? I'm not sure GMFB. Let's go
that's cold.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
Good Morning Football.
Speaker 4 (00:56):
Yeah, that's right, it's GMFB. How's everybody doing? Happy Friday?
Speaker 2 (00:59):
We have some things to discuss again, we're always so
stressed about May. What are we going to talk about?
The schedule release happened? Well, some Bears news came out yesterday.
You got family members talking about Caleb Williams. Sean, you
coming with your Caleb Williams thoughts this morning.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
I got some thoughts on there for Shure.
Speaker 4 (01:16):
Okay, good, okay, great, Well then and Lawrence.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Third day is a charm for you, GMAB how's life?
Speaker 5 (01:21):
Oh, it's amazing. Who could complain? You got a cup
of coffee in you? Maybe two cups?
Speaker 4 (01:28):
Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
The point is how many By the end of the
day you've done great? This week, We've been so happy
to have you. Okay, here we go. Friday is Friday.
If you're Kleb Williams. Perhaps we're less than four months
away from Bear's quarterback Caleb Williams making his sophomore debut,
and this time it'll be under new head coach Ben Johnson.
The Bear's hosts their season start their season opening with
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the Minnesota Vikings at Soldier Field, which is fascinating now because,
in an excerpt from a new book by Seth Wickersham
titled American Kings and Biography of the Quarterback, Williams, before
being drafted number one overall last season by the Bears,
said quote, I need to go to the Vikings.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
Carl Williams.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Caleb's father also told Wickersham, Chicago is the place quarterbacks
quote to dine on the herd.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
On Thursday, Bear's.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Head coach Ben Johnson had this to say about the comments.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
In the book.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
I don't know what's going on prior to him joining
the organization, but he is very proud to be a
Chicago Bear. That's what our conversations have included, and he's
really excited to get to work right now and be
the best version of himself for twenty twenty five. We
want to see growth from here to here over the
course of the season, and it's not going to be
linear growth. It's going to be a little bit of
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ups and downs and stair steps along the way. But
we want to see from Game one the game seventeen
that we're getting better as a whole. And that's not
just him, that's us as a team as well.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
What I can imagine is the infuriating part of all
of this is that the Chicago Bears were trending upward
in all sense of the way in the offseason. They
have a new head coach that everybody wanted. Their offensive
line has improved, defense was really good last season, they
drafted big playmakers.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
It was all working.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Now these comments come out, and the question becomes, do
the comments become.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
A distraction to a team like.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
This MAN'SI entering next season, or could you be in
that locker room and say this is absolutely irrelevant.
Speaker 6 (03:19):
Well, Jamie, I think that it's not a distraction at all.
And one guy that I really love watching in the NFL,
and he's partly one of the biggest faces in the NFL,
has a lot of distractions outside of himself with certain
things that his family has done, and that's Patrick Mahomes.
He's never himself has been a distraction in the locker room,
but you know, his family has been in the tabloids
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here or there, but it's never come from Patrick. So
I don't think in this instance that Caleb Williams is
going to be a distruction in the locker room. And
I think sequence of events and time of events is
very important as far as all of these little clippings,
and so I'm going to go through it when certain
quotes are made. So when he said that he didn't
want to go to the Bears, that was before the draft,
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that was before the whole combine, all of that stuff.
Looking back at it sitting back, I don't want to
go to draft. But he specifically said this, he wanted
to go to the Vikings after his combine meeting. So
anybody as a quarterback, we talked about this yesterday. Anybody
has a quarterback who sits in the room with Kevin
O'Connell is going to sit there and be like, you
know what, I want to come to your team. Yes,
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So I think I think a lot of times in
media is we're trying to make it something.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
Because we don't We haven't read the book.
Speaker 6 (04:28):
I just know based on when certain things happen that
it creates a different narrative. He's not saying it now
in May of twenty twenty five, I don't want to
play for the Bears.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
He's not saying I don't want to play for the Bears.
After he gets shafted by the Bears. He said that.
Speaker 6 (04:41):
Before even going through all the offseason stuff. He said
he wanted to be in Minnesota biking after done sitting
down with Kevin O'Connell and having that meeting with him.
So I don't think you could go into him thinking that.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
Oh, he's going to be a distraction just because of all.
Speaker 6 (04:54):
Of the time of events that all of these quotes
happen and at that combine.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
So not this last one, but the one before that.
The one killer is that that's the first one that
Josh McCown was that with Kevin, So Kevin O'Connell brings
in Josh mccount as the quarterbacks coach, and if you're
a quarterback here it was were like, I want to
sit in the room with these two for an entire season.
Speaker 4 (05:12):
That sounds great.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
Yeah, who wouldn't.
Speaker 6 (05:13):
I mean, who wouldn't If if I'm sitting there and
I had Vic Fangil and I'm sitting there as a
linebacker and I meet Vic Fangil and I'm talking with him,
I'm like, no, I want to play for you, Like
I know that number one, you're not gonna run a
whole bunch of men, and number two, you're going to
have two big dogs in front of me. That's going
to keep me clean. So obviously I want to go
to a place where I think that I'm best set up.
Kevin Williams, I think that's what he was referring to
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because he just got out of that meeting with the
Vikings and he wanted to go there.
Speaker 5 (05:37):
I agree with you. We have to look at it
as players. We can't control the narrative that is outside
that facility. All we could do at this time of
the year, and we're talking about this time of year,
this all season program. Rookie Munie can't just stop. This
is the brotherhood that we're starting to build. And when
we have a narrative what somebody else said, he said,
she said none that really matters to the situation. Uphand
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did Caleb say it? He did not say it. He's
over here working hard as he can every single day,
night and that facility need to build this brotherhood. What's
his teammates trying to have one goal in mind, and
that is to win games. That's the whole goal. This
this thing the distraction. I don't see it there. What
I see there is brothers building this working out, blood, sweating, tears,
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trying to get to a main goal.
Speaker 7 (06:25):
And we all know what that always absolutely listen, I
want you as my lawyer if I ever get in
trouble because you got him out of a great hole.
Speaker 4 (06:33):
That's what the time.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
Boom. But it's so true.
Speaker 7 (06:40):
Though, when you think about the time frames and one
of the things you pointed out and bringing up with
Patrick Mahomes and understanding some of the off the field
issues that occurred around his name, wins cover sins.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
Patrick Mahomes is a winner. When you win they.
Speaker 7 (06:53):
Forget about all the off field attics and issues and
things of that nature. So what does Caleb Williams need
to do If he wants to flush all of this
down the toilet? He needs to go out on a
Monday night football game at home home opener. You got
three Pro Bowl offensive guys. You got Ben Johnson, who
is everybody's trying to find the next Sean McVay.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
Anyway, that young guy, that guru.
Speaker 7 (07:15):
This could potentially be it if you get a victory
at home and then you go away playing against the
fifteen and two Vikings and get another road win two
and oh very fast, I'm telling you everybody will forget about.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
That narrative rushout. I got a question.
Speaker 6 (07:29):
So you're a running back, you play right next to
the quarterback. If as a running back you're playing for
the Chicago Bears, it's May what it's May sixteenth? You
just found out about this book that's coming out or
whatever that your quarterback said months ago. When you guys
see them the next stay at because today's ota is
it's off season program. Do you say anything to them?
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Do you give them support? If you're his running back,
what do you tell them if I'm his running back.
I'm definitely going up to you and talking like I
give you an example when I was with the New
York Giants and JPP is one of the most amazing
people ever. We knew what happened with the fireworks, right, Yeah,
So as soon as you see him in the locker room,
you can't just be like like I.
Speaker 7 (08:08):
Didn't say, you gotta go hold up to him, immediately,
give him a fake high five or something like awkwards like.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
Hey man, this is all good, baby, let's do this together.
Speaker 7 (08:17):
So somebody needs to go up to him very quickly,
a leader in a room. Somebody make a joke of it,
and then corral around him. He's a young talent who
is extraordinarily good, and he has to outperform, especially one
going against JJ McCarthy. This is the other quarterback that
was in his draft class who is a rookie on
the field, and he cannot be outperformed by him.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
I actually can't come up with a better situation that
could bring Ben Johnson and Kayleb Williams closer than this
current one. I mean, Matt Eberflus is a nice person,
but that was a disaster. What was going on last
year with Chicago, and it clearly was not a match
that was going to work between head coach and quarterback.
There's a Bruce Springsteen song called The Ties That Binds,
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and I'm like thinking about, like, this is a time,
this is something that.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
Would pull these two together.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
So I looked at the lyrics for quick There's a
line in the song where he goes, you sit and
wonder who's going to stop the rain, who will ease
the sadness, Who's going to quiet your pain? Ben Johnson,
will Cale Williams, Okay, there was a lot of rain,
the tears were flowing. Last year was painful. But you
have a coach that can get this right for you.
And I have to imagine rachade to your point that
the two of them see each other, and Ben Johnson
could not disarm the situation more if he's just like,
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we're good, don't worry about what's going on out there.
We can fix this thing now. If they do fix it,
the Chicago Bears could potentially have their first four thousand
yard passer around their hands, which as a franchise has.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
Never been done before.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
It's a feat that is a milestone that it's accomplished
by everybody else except the Bears.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
His head coach Calli Williams.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Head coach Ben Johnson revealed that he's pretty confident that
his guy will make that happen next season.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
What a great opportunity we have to do something that
really has never been done. There hasn't been a four
thousand yard passer here in this franchise, and I think
Caleb is going to be the first one and one
of many years, many seasons to come where he's able
to accomplish that feat. So I see a chance for
greatness here for him. He's been communicated that way and
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he feels the same way.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Okay, not guaranteeing that it'll happen next season, but multiple
seasons for Caleb Williams in his career. So it's not
really an if, but it's a win. When do you
think this could happen for kill Williams, that he could
become a four thousand yeard passer?
Speaker 3 (10:21):
Oh? This year?
Speaker 6 (10:22):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (10:22):
Oh, this is I think you have it this year.
Speaker 7 (10:25):
Last year he threw for thirty five around thirty five
hundred yards, He had what twenty touchdowns, only six interceptions.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
He actually played pretty well.
Speaker 7 (10:33):
I mean the media in the narrative around him was
pretty rough. But when you take an account that now
he's in his second year as a professional athlete, and
then he bring in Ben Johnson, and also don't forget
that they drafted Luther Burden the third to help with
that wide receiver cord.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
And don't forget they got first.
Speaker 7 (10:48):
Round draft pick Lovely Coaston Loveland out of Michigan. He's
a guy that could come in and be like a
Sam Laporter.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
I think he could.
Speaker 7 (10:55):
The trajectory of him could be like a Travis Kelcey.
They both six six coming out two point fifty.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
Can open the middle of the field.
Speaker 7 (11:02):
So I think the best future for him is ahead
and throwing for four thousand.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
Think what, that's crazy.
Speaker 7 (11:08):
It's been what one hundred and eight what seasons, I
don't know what it is, but the franchise never has
that is crazy, never to have somebody throw for four thousand.
So I think he can do it. I'm cheering for
him to do it.
Speaker 6 (11:20):
But then it also gets perspective in our first question
as to why there was hesitancy from Caleb Williams and
going to Chicago before everything transpired.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
But you know, to your point, rare shod.
Speaker 6 (11:30):
He threw for thirty five hundred yards and twenty touchdowns.
That is with the worst yards per game team two
hundred eighty three yards per game. They're ranked twenty eighth
in points per game, they were thirty first and passing
yards per game.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
They led the league in allowing sacks.
Speaker 6 (11:47):
Caleb Williams was sacked sixty eight times as a rookie
in twenty twenty four. Yeah, he's still through for thirty
five hundred yards. So what does Ben Johnson do for
Caleb Williams. Well, this is what Ben Johnson did for
Jared Goff the three seasons that Jared Goff and Ben
Johnson were together. Twenty twenty two forty four hundred yards,
twenty twenty three forty five hundred yards, twenty twenty four
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forty six hundred yards. That is what Ben Johnson does
for a quarter. That is what I am anticipating and
I'm excited to see him do with Caleb Williams because
if Caleb Williams and he didn't do it alone, but
if Caleb Williams can do what he did last year
with what he had and the type of pressure that
he was going through last year I have no doubt
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in my mind that he will throw for four thousand yards,
not just next year, but to your point, where shot
year after year after year.
Speaker 5 (12:35):
If we can't forget what Ben Johnson did this offseason.
He beat up the office line. He brought in talent,
one of my former teammates, Joe Tooney, who has blought
for Tom Brady, who has blocked for Patrick Mahomes, multiple
Super Bowl winner. He is bringing experience for Caleb to
be protected. And let's see the scheme that Ben Joshon brings,
that Mardern West Coast style, that fast paced, that script.
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We don't get the ball out the hands, and with
Doyle being a former tight end coach, all we can
expect that they're probably gonna use to tie.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
It's more in the passing game.
Speaker 5 (13:06):
You get a twelve person out with two passing tight
ends out there, we don't know what's going on. We
could see a lot of passes going a lot of
great protection. And like I said, when you beef up
the offensive line on the offeas and you're saying one
thing that we're going to protect our quarterback at all costs,
and you ain't going to get hit like that and
if you ain't getting a hit like that, what is
that number going to go to this year?
Speaker 4 (13:26):
All right, can we do an exercise that I just
came up with at the table.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
Yeah, okay, let's us pretend you three have to pretend
like you're Kleb Williams teammate.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
And you inspired me Rashad by.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Saying like, this is what I would do if I
walked in the locker room and all this stuff was
going on. You three played with super Bowl winning quarterbacks,
Drew Brees with the Saints, Eli Manning with the Giants,
and Tom Brady with the England Patriots.
Speaker 4 (13:46):
Those guys, amongst many other.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
Things, they were game tape guys. They watched film, they studied,
they crushed it. There's another part of this book that
claims that Caleb Williams, which is like by himself in
the Chicago Bears building, like, didn't know how to watch
film or no one was watching with him. It's just
a crazy thing for a rookie. If you were one
of his teammates, and you guys have been around these quarterbacks,
how was a quarterback supposed to go about watching film?
Speaker 4 (14:09):
Who was supposed to be with him?
Speaker 2 (14:10):
What did you guys observe in your careers that say
this is how a guy like Breeze, Manning or Brady
does it.
Speaker 6 (14:17):
Yeah, well, there's a saying Jamie that it says, see
a lot, see a little, see a little, see a little,
see a lot. What that means is when you don't
know what the heck you're looking at, When you don't
even know what the heck to look for, you're gonna
watch everything. And when you watch everything, you learn nothing.
I remember talking to Dwight Freeney. I have my rookie
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my second year. One of those years. I'm over there
just watching every single clip and Dwight Freene comes into
the room. He's like, bro, what are you doing. I
was like, Bro, I'm trying to study for this game.
He was like, how do you how long you think
it took that offense to learn that playbook? A whole
off season?
Speaker 3 (14:53):
Right?
Speaker 6 (14:53):
He's like, do you think that you honestly learned their
entire playbook in a week. I was like, you know what, No,
I don't think I could learn. He's like, exactly, don't
study too much where you freeze learn enough where you
can play fast. Your instincts can take over and you'll
be able to have some success. So to your point, Jamie,
you need somebody in that room. You mentioned Drew Brees.
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I remember walking out of the meeting rooms late at
night thinking I was the last guy in the building
and I'm passing the quarterbacks room and I look in
and who do I see in there?
Speaker 3 (15:22):
Not only Drew Brees, but I see Taysom Hill.
Speaker 6 (15:25):
Taysomone was just Drew's little shadow, just learning all of
his habits.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
How does he watch film?
Speaker 6 (15:30):
You need that person, that veteran presence in that room
that can sit you down and say, hey, listen, this
is what we're looking for, this is how to break
down film. This is what is important. This is this
what this is what isn't important?
Speaker 7 (15:41):
Absolutely, And it's one thing that Tom Couflin said. I
took notes every time he spoke in front of us.
You know, y'all know how it is. Your head coach
gets up in front and spiels and Tom Couughlin always
he's quotal. He's just a walking quote, right. And one
of the things he said that always stuck with me.
He said that the faces may change, but the expectations
never will, and that always resonated with me, and Caleb
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has to understand that too. The facials change of who
the franchise quarterback is, but the expectations of holding that
helm will never change, and you have to become a
pro versus an NFL athlete. Your pro is the guy
that comes excuse me, Rather, the NFL guy is the
guy that comes in bookoo talent, highly rated, but he
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falls off because of the media, because of injury and
not knowing how to battle through all of these things.
The pro athlete is a guy that comes in to do,
does what's right, Understand how to keep the kitchen fire
away from those you who you are delivering the food too,
and become a great chef.
Speaker 5 (16:45):
Know let's understand what s what is a pro? A
pro getting to know your teammates a pro getting to
know your opponents. Bill used to say all the time,
know your opponents. And when you come to great quarterbacks,
you come to young quarterback coming lead. Get to know
your teammates, get to know your opponents. Like you said,
if you see a little, you see a lot. And
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when you really break that down, you gotta understand who
you're facing that corner. You gotta understand what wide receiver
skill set is what place you need to do, and
you watch film together. This is not me and the coaching.
This is a me, my offensive line, me my wide receivers,
me and my running back. We need to watch it
together because we're building this unit. We're building this bond.
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You know if I have to hiccup on the field,
that you're going to protect me. Hey I misread? Okay, cool,
you're going to fix the route. Hey, I know you
didn't hit that time correctly. I'm gonna dump it down
to my next player. It's all about relationships on the
field and off the field. It's all into one. And
like you say, you see a little, you see a lot.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
Oh my gosh, you guys that was great also, I
kind of all all.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
The great we need to be as teammates.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
Yeah, has everyone filed their paperwork or not?
Speaker 4 (17:56):
Still to come on GMFE.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
Speaking of the Giants and the Tom Coffin era, they're
trying to move on to a new era, the Brian
Deeble and who the quarterback is going to be?
Speaker 3 (18:04):
Era?
Speaker 2 (18:05):
Two veteran guys who have thrown over four thousand yards
and a rookie walk into a bar. No, no, no, they
walk into the practice field with the Giants, and we
got to figure out which one is starting on our
center to start this season.
Speaker 6 (18:15):
Right vanside, right, we are ready to go here on GMMFB,
we got the quotes, we got the quarterbacks. Now only
New York Giants quarterbacks, but we got Cleveland Brown quarterbacks.
Which quarterback room is most intriguing. There's more coming up
on GMFBAN.
Speaker 3 (18:42):
Good Morning Football.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
I always argue it is the most thrilling single television
shot you.
Speaker 4 (18:48):
Can see in an NFL game.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
Team scores a touchdown, you look at the coach and
he's holding up this.
Speaker 4 (18:52):
We're going for two. We're starting right there.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
On the goal line and we're trying to put two
more points on the board instead of just one with
the kick two topics on GMFB, we're going for two.
Let's start with this one. We stumbled into an original
question yesterday, and that is who is going to start
for the Giants? So QB one in Week one, We're
going to dive deeper into this subject matter now, Mantai,
who should be under center for the Giants Week one?
Speaker 6 (19:12):
Well, yesterday me and Bill Henschel, one of our producers,
had a great conversation right at this table during one
of our breaks, and we're talking about this whole situation,
and Bill brought up some great points. I thought that
Jackson Dart should be starting for a week one.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
Bill, he dropped the bomb on me. He said, listen, sen.
Speaker 4 (19:29):
Here that Bill is an Eagles fan. Everybody. By the way, Bill,
let's just filter that.
Speaker 6 (19:33):
Thank you for the background, Jamie, thank you for the background.
But Bill was saying, would it be more advantageous for
them to put Jackson Dart.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
In later in the season.
Speaker 6 (19:44):
So in the event that they put him in early,
like I said, like I thought they should if he
doesn't play well right out the gate, the stars are
it's already written in the stars.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
You're going to be gone after this season.
Speaker 6 (19:54):
But if you have because you have a Russell Wilson
and a Jamis, I don't like how people leave Jamis
out the equation. Because you have those two quarterbacks in
your locker room. It gives you the luxury of putting
Hi on a sideline and having him be able to
mature without having to go and face a blitz, without
having having him to go and face a Philadelphia Egos defense,
allows him to grow that way now, towards the end
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of the season, you put Jackson Dart in there, and
hopefully with the growth and the maturation that he's experienced
throughout the year, that the trajectory of the New York
Giants is going up towards the end.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
Of the year. I'm not saying that you're going to
have a winning record.
Speaker 6 (20:32):
But you want to make sure that you're going in
upward trajectory. And I liked what Bill was saying with
with having Jackson Dart, I'm going in towards the end
of the season, So I agree with.
Speaker 5 (20:40):
I'm right there with you. I feel the same way.
We have a player like Rust out there playing the
way he's been playing for years and year. He is proven,
he knows how to work in this league. I played
against him personally, I hate it playing against them. I'm
I'm like, you're gonna miss me when I'm trying to
get this. I want to take me fall on national TV,
Like come on. But when you have a young quarterback
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in New York, you need to under saying he needs
to develop, he needs to understand the system, he needs
to get.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
N a fail experience.
Speaker 5 (21:11):
So when you put Russ under our center, you could
go throughout the days in the weeks and say this
is what you do, this is how you handle the situation,
this is how you maneuver around the meetings. And like
you said, you can't leave out James. He is a talent.
He's been around the league. He has performed time after time.
He has been through the ups and downs of this league,
and he could tell these young men this is how
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we're going to do it and keep the spirit up.
I've never met a person or saw an interview that
had the spirit like he had. And this is just
going to benefit And now if the season is not
going the way he wanted to go, yes, you could
do in the second half, put Dart in and give
some more playing time and it start rotating it in.
We have seen it done with the Patriots, you know,
put Drake Mason's towards the after a couple of games
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as he built a little bit of experience with the
team and the culture.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
I love it.
Speaker 7 (22:00):
Listen, without a doubt, it has to be mister Unlimited
himself has to start off.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
Mister Danger Russ has to start it off. And it's
because it's written on the wall for you bring.
Speaker 7 (22:11):
In Jackson Darrk. You drafted him first round, Okay, you
want to develop him. Matter of fact, you want to
develop him so much that you actually have somebody there
for him. James Winston. He is the morale of the
locker room. He is the positive energy. He is the voice,
the veteran that will teach these guys how to become pros.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
Wow, who is doing the work.
Speaker 7 (22:33):
That is Russell Wilson out there collaborating with the one
of the greatest receivers that come through. He the twelve
hundred yards for four different quarterbacks and elite neighbors. So
I think you have to start off with Russ And
this is a recipe that they did with Kurt Warner
when Eli Manning came in nine games.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
Later and took over.
Speaker 4 (22:50):
It's such a good point.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
And it's hard though, because you got Joe Shane and
Brian Dable, who many would say that they are on
the clock this season. They have to perform. They have
to find a recipe for success with this team. But
is that the instant gradition with the quarterback that you
moved up to get in the first round, or is
it you want to get this guy to a second
and third contract. So That is a don't envy you,
(23:12):
Joe Shane. That is a decision that you are going
to have to make and we will continue to discuss
it in GMMB. Second topic on Going for two, let's
take the Giants out of this. Okay, the question becomes
which quarterback room and situation intrigues you more if you
don't talk about the New York Giants, Manti. The obvious
(23:33):
one comes to mind in the Cleveland Browns.
Speaker 4 (23:35):
But you got the Saints, you got the Steelers. What
else are you looking at?
Speaker 6 (23:38):
Obviously me coming being a former New Orleans saying I
gotta go with the Saints. I don't think the Saints
or anybody in the NFL expected Derek Carr.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
Maybe they did, I don't know.
Speaker 6 (23:47):
The type of conversation that they may have had with
Mickey Loomis the gm over there. But Derek Carr retiring.
I think it just puts the Saints in a very
very challenging situation.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
I really do.
Speaker 6 (23:59):
The topic of this segment is going for two. Literally, now,
New Orleans, you have two quarters on your depth chart.
I know technically you have four, but you don't really
only have two.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
You have Tyler Schuck and Spencer Ratler. That's all you have.
You have an older.
Speaker 6 (24:13):
Rookie coming in and you have a second year player
that's coming in from that that's trying to build off
of a rookie year that it was all around rough
for the New Orleans Saints. So I think looking at
the New Orleans Saints and that offense, it's gonna it's
gonna be a challenge. And you know, I really hope
that Alvin Kamara is ready. I'm obviously me and Alvin
(24:35):
Kamara is is.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (24:38):
He was drafted in my first year there in New.
Speaker 6 (24:39):
Orleans and he had to carry a heavy load the
past couple of years. But I think it's gonna be
heaviest Lawrence going into twenty.
Speaker 5 (24:46):
I agree. I'm gonna go with the office. I'm gonna
go with the Browns, right. It is what it is.
We understand the dynamic in that room. There was a
lot of first round talent in that room. And we
got Joe, we got Kenny, we got Gabriel wish Ador.
There's so many people there and I could say there's
gonna be a competition. There's gonna be something there that's
going to spark the fans. Size it's going to spark
(25:08):
the team's eyes. I know one thing personally, Joe was
one of my teammates, one of my favorite teammates, asked that,
But we know what he brings to the table, right,
year after year after year, sitting full of of being
getting caught back into the game, and all you can
do is joyful and like, yeah, I'm back in here.
This is amazing. And he contributes. But what he's going
to do for this group, though he's going to leave
(25:29):
this group, He's going to develop this group. He's going
to be that mentor that these young talents need to
have in the NFL. I've never met a person in
my life, like I can say, it's never met a
person in my life that cared about another person just
how Joe does.
Speaker 4 (25:43):
Wow.
Speaker 7 (25:44):
And with this team, I'm following them up. I gotta
go with the Browns because they listen. It's been so
much media hype around who's going to be the starting
quarterback there? Like you said, his first round draft picks
all over the place there as well as I have
never been on a football team where I've seen four
quarterbacks on a roster five.
Speaker 4 (26:03):
Technically five technically.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
Yeah, four emotionally.
Speaker 5 (26:12):
Yes, yes, forget about that.
Speaker 7 (26:16):
But in that situation, you're only going to carry three realistically.
Matter of fact, when I was in Jacksonville, I was
listed as the third quarterback on the depth chart for
eight games. That just goes to show you Cats ain't
carrying four quarterbacks on their team. One of them at
least has to get cut and try to put them
back on the practice squad. Which if you put them
on a practice squad, guess what they gonna get picked.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
Up somewhere else.
Speaker 7 (26:38):
So it's a matter of fact of which quarterback does
Cleveland Browns want to let go of.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
Is it Joe Flacco?
Speaker 7 (26:44):
Is it can you pickt is it your third round
draft pick in Gabriel who was up for Heisman at
some point in the run, or is it shardor Sanders?
One of them has to go and I can't wait
to see the decision they make.
Speaker 4 (26:56):
Do you ever get put in as an emergency theirs?
Speaker 7 (26:58):
I wish I would have no, just just disclaiming we
only had a while wildcat package for me, but you
know I would have tried to sling it and try
to make something happen.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
Yeah, oh my god, you get that opportunity.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
Well, now, unfortunately, we already know that it is one
of your truths, because we're going to play two lies
and a truth today with Lawrence Sky and Rashaw Jenny's
and we've got.
Speaker 4 (27:18):
To take that out of round or two lies and
the truth.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
The Pittsburgh Steelers play at the New York Jets and
against the Green Bay Packers this season. Is there a
quarterback going to be a guy that used to play
for both of those teams.
Speaker 4 (27:30):
We don't know.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
We have to figure out the future of Aaron Rodgers
and the potential of him signing in Pittsburgh. Until then,
we did find out that the schedule makers at the
NFL had to.
Speaker 4 (27:39):
Wait that uncertainty.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
So when we hear from NFL VP Broadcast Planning and
Scheduling Mike North, he said it is challenging to put
together a schedule like Pittsburgh's knowing what we don't know.
Speaker 8 (27:50):
I think if we knew for certain that Aaron was
going to be the quarterback of the Steelers, we might
have done something a little different in Week one with
the Steelers game and maybe the one hedge maybe Packers
Steelers if you put that game in a window where
it does become something even bigger. We wouldn't want to unbalance,
you know, maybe one of the partners. So if it
fell on a Sunday afternoon, for instance, it becomes a
(28:12):
dominant story of the day. Aaron's first game against his
old team, So put it in a national window. If
Aaron's the quarterback, it's a great story. If Aaron's not
the quarterback, it's still Packers Steelers Sunday Night football in
week eight. Like con said, Howard would say, it sounds
like a football game, so tried to play it.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
Down the middle.
Speaker 8 (28:29):
We don't know anything more than anybody else. The schedule
was built, you know, for coach Tomlin and for the Steelers,
and if Aaron decides to play, it probably just makes many,
if not all, the Steelers' games a little more interesting.
Speaker 4 (28:41):
Yeah, we certainly hope so, all right.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
The Rams and Seahawks recently teamed up to provide more
than ten thousand dollars worth of shoes to youth served
by the Boys and Girls.
Speaker 4 (28:49):
Club of Pasadena.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
The donation helping kids whose home and school communities were
impacted by the devastating Eaton fire out here in Pasadena
and Los Angeles in January, so division fos perhaps, but
working together to support impact at LA Youth.
Speaker 4 (29:04):
That's pretty cool. Well done, Ramsom.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
Seahawks still to come on GMFB. We are getting to
know Lawrence and Rashad just a little bit better. But
how well can we pass the test? Two lies and
a truth? Everybody's going to play. Mantai and I are
we good listeners in the commercial? Have we learned enough
about them?
Speaker 3 (29:21):
I think so we're going to see. Yeah, GMN be
coming up football.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
Manta and I were just trying to engage these guys
in conversation in the commercial. So we are fully prepared
for two lies and the truth.
Speaker 4 (29:45):
Here's the game.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
When we have new friends at the table, we like
to make sure we send them back out of the
world knowing them a little bit better. There will be
three statements on the board. You each get to go twice.
We have to suss out the truth. There will be
two lies on the board at one truth, and then
tell your little story when it comes to the truth. Rashad,
you are up for two lies and the truth. Walk
(30:06):
us through it, my friends.
Speaker 3 (30:08):
Right here we go two lies in a truth.
Speaker 7 (30:12):
Hey, I beat Steph Curry in the game of course
this is true because Seth Curry went to Liberty University.
I went to Liberty University my senior year before he
transferred out to do I played stuff one on one
just in the court, horse one easy, burned them down.
Now number two b I turned down being a bachelor
(30:35):
after season twenty four Dance with the Stars. Went in
that show, right, I had an opportunity to beat the bachelor.
I decided, Nah, you know what, I don't want to
do that.
Speaker 3 (30:46):
It's kind of not my swag. So I said, no,
didn't want to do it.
Speaker 7 (30:50):
See, while I was in Jacksonville, I tried on Jacksonville
mascot jackson Deville costume. Now obviously being in Jacksonville, I loved,
you know, exploring things, and I had an opportunity to
try on the mascot.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
So I did it.
Speaker 4 (31:05):
He did.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
Which one is the truth? Which one is it? Tay,
you go first?
Speaker 2 (31:09):
Okay, I have been listening to Rashad in the commercial,
and I think the truth is b And it's not
because the bachelor is not your swag. It's not why
I feel like you mentioned that after you won Dancing
with the Stars that you met your now wife, like
right away and so I feel like you're like, no,
I'm already locked down.
Speaker 4 (31:28):
I already have a single rose to give to somebody.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
So I think after your mirror ball.
Speaker 4 (31:34):
You then you turned down being on the Bachelor.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
Okay, I also think it's B but it's for different reasons.
Speaker 6 (31:39):
Number one, when ra Seat was reading C he read
every single word and that was the truth.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
He wouldn't know exactly when he put on that masscar uniform.
Speaker 6 (31:50):
Now Number two, A, I don't think it's A because
he did say Steph went to Duke and he went
to Davidson.
Speaker 4 (31:56):
I think you went to.
Speaker 6 (31:57):
So I do know that about Steph Curry. So I'm
going to agree with you, Jamie, it's B. B's the truth.
Speaker 4 (32:03):
Okay, are just susting you out?
Speaker 3 (32:05):
Come on clarify a little bit.
Speaker 7 (32:07):
It was Seth that went to Liberty Universe his brother
oh Sam, Yeah, yeah, yeah he came.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
So does that change anything?
Speaker 4 (32:14):
I don't know, LG.
Speaker 3 (32:16):
What do you got what for? God? Like? No, what?
It's good?
Speaker 5 (32:21):
But I want to be different.
Speaker 4 (32:23):
Okay, do it.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
I'm going I'm going with.
Speaker 5 (32:26):
I've been in those shoes sometimes, Like you want to
try on the costume, Like, hey, is.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
It not hot in there.
Speaker 5 (32:32):
Let me know it.
Speaker 4 (32:33):
Does it change?
Speaker 2 (32:34):
Does it change your answer to know that Jacksonville were
was a speedo?
Speaker 4 (32:37):
Does that concern you whatsoever?
Speaker 3 (32:39):
No?
Speaker 6 (32:40):
Okay, right, yeah, I'm all in it.
Speaker 3 (32:46):
So you guys are great because it is big.
Speaker 7 (32:49):
Actually did turn down that opportunity. It wasn't my function
way style.
Speaker 3 (32:54):
Oh my god, man, y'all won't put the show that.
Speaker 7 (32:59):
You know a little bit early when I was single
and I didn't want to do the show. So there
it is.
Speaker 4 (33:05):
Wow, pedals, I mean supported by the NFLO. The shield
was into this.
Speaker 3 (33:11):
To happen.
Speaker 4 (33:12):
Wow, that's great.
Speaker 5 (33:14):
Let's see.
Speaker 4 (33:14):
Let's see.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
Oh my god, let's see what you got.
Speaker 5 (33:17):
Oh all right? Two lies one true. Yes, Hey, I
took batting practice with fellow lump Barry Buds. If you
all know, I went to Arizona State. We all had
the lump come back, but pat run We do everything
there and I'm like, hey, can't give me some lesson
And He's.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
Like, who are you?
Speaker 5 (33:38):
I'm like, Hey, this is who I am.
Speaker 3 (33:40):
Let me do it.
Speaker 5 (33:40):
Like sure, we're doing it, but having fun. You know,
this is a fellow lump. B I am a vegan, right,
so when it comes down to trying to recover from
the off season. You want to do everything for your body,
and when you look at the vegan diet, it helps inflammation,
it helps everything. It makes you feel better when you
(34:02):
wake up in the morning, and it's the best thing
for your life, right. See was it an anime? Colub
with the Patriot? With my teammates who doesn't like a
good Naruto who doesn't know?
Speaker 4 (34:15):
And you sold us with the character too.
Speaker 5 (34:17):
Dragon ball Z who doesn't like that? And when you're
with a group of people that could sit there and
enjoy the characters enjoyed that, why not start a group?
Speaker 2 (34:30):
Well, do your cart cell on the anime club hard.
So nothing stresses me out more than veganism. Not because
that I don't respect it. I can imagine that it
helps wonders with the information. But I have the exact
opposite approach to food. I think I think you're I
think you're a vegan just because of course it would
be a vegan. Yet you're still able to accomplish that body.
Speaker 4 (34:50):
That's insane.
Speaker 3 (34:50):
Nah, I don't think you a vegan, Jamie. I don't
think it began.
Speaker 6 (34:53):
Why because we work together with the Charger Zone. There
are some chicken and caseo nachos.
Speaker 5 (34:58):
That can change saying that's all we had back then.
Speaker 6 (35:02):
Maybe, But I also think that I think it's a
for U LG.
Speaker 3 (35:07):
I think it said, what do you think shot that stuff?
You know what? I'm kind of sold on C. So
I think that's the truth.
Speaker 7 (35:14):
I think there was an anime club or the patrons teammates,
you had fun and enjoyed it, and you know, it's
one of them.
Speaker 3 (35:18):
Things I'm gonna go with. C. Are you sure not
being No, I don't think you're vegan. I think it's see.
Speaker 5 (35:26):
Let's see it is C in nineteen Wow, we had
an anime club. ME and a bunch of our teammates
gotta go to fandom in Boston, and it was the
best thing about it. But everybody might think I'm a
vegan because in the GQ article on the online, it's not.
(35:47):
I was vegan because I did an interview saying how
I go towards a more of a plant based diet
in the off season, me three times a year. So
it kind of just got a little put out there, like, Hey,
imagine me going to training camp and they're like, you vegan.
I'm like, I'm like, no, yeah, the chicken wing.
Speaker 4 (36:06):
How does there an article in GQ about you?
Speaker 3 (36:09):
Who knows you don't ask?
Speaker 4 (36:11):
Don't ask questions?
Speaker 2 (36:15):
Wait, I mean the fact that you guys are wearing
credentials at an anime conference is perfect.
Speaker 4 (36:19):
Here up, go ahead, right right second, let's see.
Speaker 7 (36:22):
All right, Two truths in a lie again, let's go
at it. I have my first sip of alcohol at
the age of forty years old.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
Now you know alcohol is not my thing.
Speaker 4 (36:32):
How old are you now?
Speaker 3 (36:33):
I am forty Okay, I'm forty years old right now.
Speaker 7 (36:36):
Number two, Eli Manning asked me for dance advices after
winning Dancing with the Stars.
Speaker 3 (36:41):
They did a little deal. After I won Dancing with
the Stars, they did a commercial. He asked for some advice. Yeah, simple, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 7 (36:47):
See baker bread, It's one of my hobbies. I love bacon,
goes against what partners my romanticism.
Speaker 3 (36:55):
I love cooking. So bacon is a hobby of mine
and bread is a faith. So these are two truths
in a lie. Excuse me? One truth, two lines, which
is which I'm gonna go?
Speaker 6 (37:07):
Okay, so I'm gonna go see you why Because he
dropped a bar earlier today in the show where you
talked about make sure that the fire in the kitchen
doesn't burn the people that are serving the food or
eating the food, something like that. So that's so the
fact that Rashad talked about food and kitchens and in
that manner, I think the truth Jamie is going to
(37:28):
be seen baking baking bread is a copy of mine.
Speaker 2 (37:32):
While I wouldn't put it past Eli for asking your
advice on something, Eli Manning and the Mannings in general
are just kind of like those people that are good
at everything annoyingly so so I feel like he didn't need.
Speaker 4 (37:42):
Your dance advice.
Speaker 2 (37:44):
And if you're already forty and alcohols are, think, dang it,
I'm gonna go a because I kind of want to
hear the story behind this.
Speaker 4 (37:51):
Now go ahead, LG.
Speaker 3 (37:54):
See.
Speaker 5 (37:54):
I hope you got would have picked the same one out.
It's follow along with this star.
Speaker 4 (37:58):
Why would he try it? You talking about about we.
Speaker 5 (38:01):
Know you would dancing with the start we want, So
that's a good for be But matter had a point
You did bring up that that kitchen crow like you
can't bring the food by the fire will get burn,
And I'm gonna go with see because of that it's
obvious that that be might be it, but a little
too often good.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
All I know is that we all have terrible memories
because no one can correctly.
Speaker 4 (38:24):
Quote Rashad from that segment.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
Like we've all attempted and it's not where the.
Speaker 3 (38:29):
They move out.
Speaker 7 (38:30):
So a ladies, I took my first simple of any
alcohol ever just this year, April twenty seventh, did go
and I had it with a glass of my wife.
Speaker 3 (38:40):
Oh she's gonna be mad.
Speaker 4 (38:41):
Oh yeah, guys, okay, no.
Speaker 3 (38:45):
Go on.
Speaker 7 (38:45):
I've never drink alcohol DW in my life because of
the issue that my father had. And I said one
day when I'm married, I would share my first class
ye wine with my wife.
Speaker 3 (38:53):
And I did it. Oh okay it is and our.
Speaker 2 (38:55):
Thoughts and being a romantic, how did it go?
Speaker 4 (38:57):
Is it going to be night?
Speaker 7 (38:59):
I had candles burning, all kinds of stuff that we had,
the music, we danced, did a bunch to day's right,
have fun.
Speaker 3 (39:05):
So now that's why I got two kids. So I'm
married now it's fine. It's supposed to do. I'm it
is hot. It was hot.
Speaker 7 (39:14):
The wine was hot out of the first time shipping it.
Speaker 3 (39:16):
But you know, being out a ta Meccola is a
wide country. I'll be able to join.
Speaker 6 (39:20):
Lord so okay, cool, some big bread on that table.
Speaker 4 (39:26):
All right.
Speaker 5 (39:29):
Two lives, one truth, Hey with at a Vegas poop
party and out the bouncer for one summer. I was
a a Vegas pool party bouncer. Four summer. We all
know I'm from Vegas. I got a whole Vegas sleeve
on me. They go, you see it. You see the
little Vegas thing right there. That could be it. You know,
(39:50):
I'm a big I'm a typical bouncher out here. B
I'm a Mickey Mouse tattoo. We're a big Disney's fan.
Like we go to Disney all the time. We go
like you know, verse of all that, like this could
be it, right, See.
Speaker 4 (40:06):
Well that's the last see.
Speaker 5 (40:11):
You kicking.
Speaker 3 (40:14):
So we know that the truth good want to be set?
Look it up?
Speaker 4 (40:20):
You had Duncan.
Speaker 5 (40:21):
Duncan was Ben Affleck. Hey, you're talking about Boston. You're
talking about Ben Affleck, Matt Damon. This is the time
I am telling you Marky, Mark all them always around
the area. This is it. It's always a good time
to have great talk. It's always a good time to
have a donuts ARCADEK brought a lot of people into
(40:42):
the facility consistence.
Speaker 2 (40:44):
Okay, Well, I mean I love these segments because they
just breed questions. And now I just want to know
if you were on that commercial set with the Dunkin
Donuts in the super Bowl.
Speaker 4 (40:51):
But that's for the commercial question.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
I think I want your life story to be so
fascinating that not only can you spin it in the
anime club, but you can also be muscle at a
Vegas pool party. So I I want your side hustle
to be a Vegas Fool party bouncer.
Speaker 6 (41:07):
Well, I did ask l G where he's from, and
he said he is from Vegas before before this segment started.
But then also his first two lines in the Truth
was he was he went to an anime thing. So
that also leads me to think that it could be B.
I think she is a little too obvious. So I'm
between A and B. So I'm gonna go he has
(41:28):
a lot of tats. Yeah, I'm gonna go BE. He
has a Mickey Mouth tattoo shot.
Speaker 7 (41:33):
Yeah, I'm right there with you. I'm thinking that leaning
more towards B. H. I'm sticking with Bee.
Speaker 3 (41:38):
Man.
Speaker 7 (41:39):
I think I got you. I think I got you.
I'm one hundred percent.
Speaker 3 (41:42):
Muscle, Are you sure? Yeah? Where is it on my legs?
Speaker 5 (41:51):
I got a massive Mickey Mouse hat. And the story
that happens is my daughter had johnn and she was
very yellow in the hospital, so he used to call
a bell and cover big Disney fans. I got them
Mickey Mouse out out with the building and the beeft
Wow inside of it. It is one of those things.
It surprises everybody. Imagine being on the training table and
(42:13):
then we'll get that what was that you just made?
Speaker 2 (42:19):
That's what I That's what I did when I saw
this picture of Rashan Jennings going out to break on
gmf B two Lies and the Truth. We learned something
new about everybody.
Speaker 4 (42:29):
Like what is that? Why do you have steel the
official hotel of Rose Pedals.
Speaker 2 (42:41):
I have to imagine the nfl p A is a
great organization, but we were just convinced that Laurence Guy
should be the anime nfl p A presidents, like, I mean,
there is me bring.
Speaker 3 (42:51):
You in the player to join the club.
Speaker 2 (42:54):
I see it was an anime voice actor in your future.
I do too, this boy killing like we're doing on
GMFP we'll be right back.
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