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August 1, 2025 • 41 mins

Hour One of the Good Morning Football Podcast begins with the return of football with the Hall of Fame Game. Hosts Jamie Erdahl, Kyle Brandt, Manti Te'l and Will Blackmon discuss what we saw from the Chargers and Lions.  Reports say Terry McLaurin has requested to be traded by the Commanders. The table debates John Harbaugh's thoughts on Lamar Jackson's career to this point.

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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Good Morning Football is the production of the NFL in
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Speaker 2 (00:11):
Look a lot of people, it's a Friday on Good
Morning Football.

Speaker 3 (00:13):
We're live in LA, We're live in New York.

Speaker 2 (00:15):
It's August first, but most importantly, on the day of
all days, it is the day after a football game
was played. Jamie Arnold, Mansieo, Will Blackman, Kyle Brandt in
New York. Kyle the first preseason game.

Speaker 3 (00:26):
In the books.

Speaker 2 (00:27):
We've got trivia, who scored the first touchdown? Who had
the first pick? How great was Mike Tarrico last night.
It's all working for GMFB.

Speaker 3 (00:35):
Today, It really is.

Speaker 1 (00:37):
And we don't make the people wait for KeAndre Lambert
Smith highlight.

Speaker 4 (00:41):
We got him. We're going to give him to you
right now. Good Morning Football starts.

Speaker 5 (00:44):
Let's go Good Morning Football.

Speaker 2 (01:01):
You can brand this game the first preseason twenty twenty
five any way you want. It is the Hall of
Fame game, though, and that means that Kyle Brant is
holding the most beloved piece of paper in all of
sports television. Kyle Brandt, what is it? Tell the people?

Speaker 1 (01:16):
This is a shot sheet, as they say in our industry.
It has the plays listed that we will share with
the viewing public the highlights, the real tackle football plays
that occurred on a real field last night.

Speaker 4 (01:27):
What do you guys think, should we get to it?

Speaker 1 (01:29):
Should we diddle that a little bit longer, or should
we get right to highlights? Will wants it, Manti wants it.
Let's go tell it to Hio.

Speaker 4 (01:39):
Well, you know the bro Football Hall of Fame.

Speaker 6 (01:41):
Here we go.

Speaker 1 (01:42):
There they are, Tarra Down, Sterling, Sharper, Eric All, Antonio Gates. Guys,
I grew up watching God they love and that's Trey Lance.

Speaker 4 (01:47):
We love you, we follow you, we root for you.
Thirty four to seven. It was Trey Lance night.

Speaker 1 (01:53):
We'll always remember this as the Trey Lance game. If
you had the Lions in preseason survivor, you are out.

Speaker 4 (02:00):
But other than that, we are all winners after this one.

Speaker 3 (02:03):
Well done, Kyle.

Speaker 2 (02:04):
If I was giving you a media grade, that was
a ninety five read on the highlight, it's fantastic.

Speaker 3 (02:09):
That was a Hall of Fame game.

Speaker 2 (02:09):
We're going to talk about it, guys. We got the
Chargers lines, we got your back. But we have some
other news to address. Plus we've got our reporters all
around the country today. So first we start in Tampa Bay.
Sarah Walsh is waiting for us to discuss her Buccaneers
and I think Tom Pellisero is there in that he's talking,
Oh Tom is there?

Speaker 3 (02:25):
Okay?

Speaker 7 (02:25):
How am you?

Speaker 3 (02:27):
Sarah?

Speaker 2 (02:27):
Though I will start with you the first of the
head of the class, Sarah.

Speaker 3 (02:31):
How are you?

Speaker 2 (02:32):
Usually you're here and I'm there, but we're constantly just
doing this.

Speaker 3 (02:35):
What's up?

Speaker 1 (02:35):
Girl?

Speaker 8 (02:36):
It's so great to be on with you because I
never get to be on GMFB with you. I also
appreciate in total solidarity, Jamie, that you're going ponytail with me,
even though that you have all the comforts of the
air conditioned studio.

Speaker 3 (02:47):
I like that You're like, look, they're going to be
sweating out there.

Speaker 8 (02:49):
If she's got to go ponytail, I'm going ponytail. That's
why you're a good teammate, Jamier.

Speaker 2 (02:53):
You know, we are just like nine girls down from
a soccer team, ready to go. It's Hoodie Friday on
GMFB and it's all working.

Speaker 3 (03:01):
But let's talk Bucks first.

Speaker 2 (03:02):
Then we got to get to some news from But
what's going on Sarah these days with Buccaneers training camp?
How's Baker? What's going on? In the NFC South with
this team.

Speaker 8 (03:11):
Well, this team feels like this was a prolific offense
a year ago and they feel like they have only
gotten better. They haven't lost any pieces except for obviously
the caveat there is Tristan Works, who will likely not
start the season as Baker's left tackle. There's a little
bit of hope left that he could return. He at
a procedure this month. Actually, are we in August yet?
The procedure was in July? Here Today's okay, there you go.

(03:34):
I mean that tells you where we are in life
right now. But they are hoping that Tristan can come back,
but that might be unlikely. So aside from that, this
is a team that feels like it's reloaded. If you
have been around Baker at all, his eyes light up
when he is asked or he talks about his rookie receiver,
a mecca of Buka. I know, you guys on this
show love pulling out names that people may not know.

Speaker 3 (03:55):
That's one to keep an eye on for you guys.

Speaker 1 (03:57):
There.

Speaker 8 (03:57):
Apparently he has been outstanding very much the same kind
of receiver we get the sense of like a Chris
Win here. So again, there's a Mike Evans, Chris Godwin.
You have the rushing attack that this Buccaneers team had
a year.

Speaker 3 (04:09):
Ago with Bucky and Rashad.

Speaker 8 (04:11):
Bucky was just a rookie a year ago, and so
they feel like this offense has only gotten better. Baker
has only gotten more comfortable. He told me when I
talked to him a couple of days ago here that
the one thing he said he needs to be better
at is they.

Speaker 3 (04:22):
Have to cut down on turnovers this year.

Speaker 8 (04:24):
And that is because Jamie and guys, this is not
a team that is in the hunt for the NFC South.

Speaker 3 (04:28):
I mean, of course they are.

Speaker 8 (04:29):
They want to defend their title, but they feel like
they're beyond that. This is a team that feels like
it will be competing for a Lombardi this season. They
feel like they have the pieces to do that.

Speaker 2 (04:38):
Jamie, well, at least they know their parade route. It's
fresh in their minds in the last couple of seasons.

Speaker 3 (04:43):
Sarah, thank you so much. Tom. Great to see you
this morning.

Speaker 2 (04:46):
Sorry you can't participate in point till Friday, but we
were going to hear the news from you anyways. The
Washington Commander has had someone who.

Speaker 3 (04:52):
You're almost there.

Speaker 2 (04:53):
I mean, yeah, it's better to keep the net cool.
So Terry McLaurin, man, we have talked about this star
wide receiver so much this summer, and oftentimes it's on
the optimistic side, and can they get the deal done?

Speaker 3 (05:05):
They should.

Speaker 2 (05:06):
This has taken an odd turn in the last fourteen hours.

Speaker 3 (05:08):
What's up in Washington?

Speaker 7 (05:10):
Tom Well, Jammy.

Speaker 9 (05:11):
Terry mcclaurin officially requested a trade from the Commander's yesterday.
This was the logical and perhaps final button that McLaurin
could push amidst an ongoing standoff over a contract extension.

Speaker 6 (05:24):
I was at.

Speaker 9 (05:24):
Commander's training camp several days ago. Mclaurin's agent, Buddy Baker
was on hand as well. The issue regarding McLaurin and
the Commanders have been about what is the value of
a guy who consistently is a one thousand yard receiver.
He is a locker room leader, but also quoser two
eights thirty going on to a third contract on a
Commander's team that knows they're going to have to pay

(05:46):
some of their young players over the next several years.

Speaker 6 (05:49):
Here.

Speaker 9 (05:49):
When McLaurin signed his last deal, it was market value
he's doing a little under twenty million dollars this year,
But the twenty million.

Speaker 7 (05:55):
Dollar receiver a few years.

Speaker 9 (05:56):
Ago is now the thirty million dollar a year.

Speaker 4 (05:58):
Receiver right now.

Speaker 9 (06:00):
If mclaurin's going to do a new deal, it's going
to have to have a three in front of it
in terms of the average per year. The Commanders, who
love Terry McLaurin, just aren't there in terms of the contract.

Speaker 7 (06:10):
So what do you do?

Speaker 9 (06:11):
He held out now he's effectively holding in though technically he's
on the physically unable to perform list with an ankle
injury that had lingered from last season. If he's going
to sign a new contract, there's only so many different
things you can do to try to push that thing forward.
The trade request is sort of the last thing that
you could attempt here, Jamie, That's what McLaurin is doing,

(06:31):
and we'll see what interest, if any, Washington has in
actually trading away one of their most important players on
a team that just was in the NFC Championship Game
last year.

Speaker 7 (06:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (06:40):
Unfortunately for the Commanders, we saw the fun side of
a Hail Mary happen last season. This is a different
kind of hail Mary, Terry mclaurin's trying to get this
thing done with the commander. Sarah Walsh, Tom Pili, Sarah,
thank you so much. We'll see you guys later on
Inside Training Camp Live, noon Eastern on NFL Network. All right, Mansai,
now we know unfortunately, there's the pop list, there's all.

Speaker 3 (06:58):
These other lists.

Speaker 2 (06:58):
This is the trade request list, and put Terry mclaurin's
name at the top first.

Speaker 7 (07:02):
That was a great hell Mary pool. I love that.
I mean, that's beautiful.

Speaker 10 (07:05):
Anyway, in regards to this trade, it's unfortunate. It's unfortunate
that has come to this this point. In my opinion,
Tery merclaurin has done everything right since his time of
being in Washington. He's been one of the big focal
points of that team for some years now. He's been
a great teammate. He's never gotten in trouble. How many
have you ever heard of him getting in trouble, Jamie, No, No,

(07:26):
He's never in the newspapers for bad things. He's only
in newspapers for doing things like this, catching touchdowns and
hell Mary's and all of that stuff.

Speaker 7 (07:33):
But I look at this.

Speaker 10 (07:33):
Commander's team, and I look at Terry McLaurin and his
role there, and we talk a lot about the Chargers
on how slim that wide receiver room is the.

Speaker 7 (07:40):
Commander's room now is slim.

Speaker 10 (07:43):
I know they signed Deebo Samuel, but Deebo Samuel is
a compliment to Terry McLaurin. He isn't somebody replaced him.
So I think it's unfortunate.

Speaker 7 (07:50):
I don't know what.

Speaker 10 (07:50):
I don't think we all know where it's going to go.
But I hope it trends in the right direction. It
seems like it's not going to or it seems like
it's not going that way. But will I gotta say,
it's just it's unfortunate.

Speaker 3 (08:02):
Bummer.

Speaker 7 (08:02):
Yeah, it's a bummer. Yeah.

Speaker 11 (08:03):
It reminds me of what we talked about yesterday. Once
you hit that age thirty is like the negotiations flipped
on the other side right now. Like if I'm the Commanders,
I can see them looking at this situation like, Okay,
he probably he wants top tier money. Sure, he probably
earned it, you know, and he had his yeah, thirteen Touchhofs,
but I think was second in the league last year.

(08:23):
But you're also looking, you know, let's go south. You're
looking at Mike Evans, another person who was consistently a
thousand yard receiver, and I think he's sounded like a
two year, forty million dollars day, like something small, but
still got the guarantees that he was looking for. So
maybe maybe Terry wants more money or something longer, or
maybe commanders are like, hey, maybe we'll give you a

(08:43):
certain amunt of money but a shorter term. So I
can see them maybe they're battling comparing it with that,
because if we're going to go consistency me, Mike Evans,
he deserves top tier money.

Speaker 7 (08:52):
We're talking like that.

Speaker 11 (08:53):
So it's unfortunate because, like you said, the main consistent
person for that team, despite all the drama that organization
went through, has been Terry.

Speaker 1 (09:03):
It's a tough it really is, because you know, you
start to sort of appreciate both sides.

Speaker 4 (09:09):
I think a lot of people in the media.

Speaker 1 (09:11):
I myself certainly, sometimes we get very very caught up
in the player side and you start say, oh, you're
such a good guy, and he's so solid, and he's
so consistent, and he's the face of the franchise and
all and all that stuff is true, but this is
still a business arrangement, and you have to look at
someone like Adam Peters the commander's jam and be like,
we love Terry.

Speaker 4 (09:27):
Obviously, we know he's a nice guy. He's gonna be
thirty in a couple of weeks.

Speaker 1 (09:30):
He's asking for thirty something million dollars a year, Like,
we love Terry. He's not Jamar Chase. He's not Justin Jefferson,
even if he was their age. He's not those guys.
He's very good. He's getting a little older. We have
to remind ourselves that again, the best contracts are not
rewards for what you've done. It's investments in what you're
going to do. And that would make it simple. The
problem for the commanders is in some lightning strike scenario

(09:54):
in which Terry mclaurdin suddenly wasn't a commander anymore, then
they're risking Jaden and Jaden is everything, Like, you can't
compromise Jaden in year two, you can't have oh my god,
mclaurin's gone go out there without sufficient receivers, Like, then
you're jeopardizing everything because Terry mclartin is a good player.
Jaden is the company, Like you have to continue to
support him. So if you think in any way that

(10:16):
we just can't come to a deal with Terry, we
love him, but I think we got this great offer
here from the Patriots, the Raiders whoever. We can't leave
the covered bear for Jaden or we risk having him
step back. So I feel like mclaurin's best leverage isn't
that I'm a nice guy and a good player. Is
that I'm the number one Rider's squide receiver for the
quarterback messiah here in DC, and you want to have
me out here.

Speaker 4 (10:35):
And that's why it's tough.

Speaker 2 (10:37):
Yeah, but Messiah or not, Kyle, he's still a second
year player. This isn't Tom Brady or Matt Stafford coming
in saying that's my guy.

Speaker 3 (10:45):
I need him here.

Speaker 2 (10:45):
So maybe the leverage that the young quarterback has isn't
tracking with ownership that much like ownership has a business
plan and they have a young quarterback that they are
trying to capitalize in the next four years when he's
cheap and when he's talented. So, Kyle, I'll ask you
this when things like this have happened at this juncture
in the league season, in the league calendar, and it
is a player of this nature. How often do you

(11:07):
see this thing transpire where the player does get traded
in and we got to track it or do you
feel like, does this have a sense where you know
what this might work out because of the reason you
just said that Jade Daniels is the messiah.

Speaker 1 (11:19):
Yeah, it's early, it's August first. I think typically the
player stays with the team. It takes a lot for
a trade like this to happen. You saw somebody like
Brandon Ayuk ends up staying with the team, ends up
getting paid. I just think like there was no way
that the Pittsory Steelers were going to let TJ. Watt
leave like they just that was their guy. There is
no scenario where that was not going to happen. I

(11:42):
don't know if the Commanders feel that way about Terry McLaurin,
similar guy and what he's meant.

Speaker 4 (11:46):
To the team and how he's looked at.

Speaker 1 (11:48):
And there's a lot of jerseys in the stands not
as important of a player. But I think to answer
the question, it takes a lot of inertia movement to
move a guy like this in the summer. And also
I ask you guys at the table, like also a
team has to want to trade for a thirty year
old wide receiver and him, and maybe it is someone
who says, screw it, let's take a run at this thing.
But is there a trade partner out there that's gonna be, like,

(12:09):
we need Terry McLaurin now on this team for thirty
million bucks a year if you give a new deal.

Speaker 10 (12:14):
Well, if you bring up that scenario, KB, there's a
team that just played last night that if you add
him to that from what they were able to do.
I'm referring to the Chargers with the charge of conky
and oh boy, good luck NFL. But I think when
I was listening to Tom p. Kab, I heard a
term that he said in there, and he said market value.

(12:36):
I think that is such a specific term that when
you look at Terry McLaurin, he's not looking to make Again,
I'm not in these contract no nobody is. We're not
in these contract negotiations. But he's not looking to make
what Jamar Chase them are making. He's looking to make
market value whatever he's worth. And if you look at
the guys that are into the thirty million dollar range,
you got a Monroe, you got Brendan oyuk, you got

(12:58):
Tyreek hell T. Higgins is like twenty eight, almost twenty nine.
I think that's where he's trying to get. Again, I'm
not his representative. I don't know, but I think it's
fair to say that somebody who has done so much
but KB does bring some points to where they're going
in the future of this franchise.

Speaker 7 (13:14):
To consider that he's not trying to be the big dog.
He's just trying to get what he feels he deserves,
and I think he deserves that.

Speaker 11 (13:21):
Yeah, I mean this is a it's a unique situation,
and you're right, who's gonna want a trade for someone
like Terry? And I think there's gonna be a lot
of suitors, and if anybody, it would be somebody either
who is like super Bowl ready or someone who's truly
going all in and.

Speaker 7 (13:38):
Who has the money, who has a cat space.

Speaker 11 (13:39):
And I look at someone like the Steelers, like right now,
they're in a situation where yes, you went and got
Aaron Rodgers because you are truly going all in, and
why not have two number ones out there? If you're
really trying to make it happen this year, You're not
just trying to make the playoffs, you're really trying to
get into the super Bowl.

Speaker 7 (13:54):
So if he's out there and.

Speaker 11 (13:55):
This a legit trade, like obviously it's negotiation, so agent
is gonna say things. They're gonna be trade requests. You're
gonna hear different things in the media. But if you're
a situation where you're like, man, this guy can come
in and help us. Right now, it's essentially what the
Rams did, right They went and got Devonte Adams even
though they lost Cooper Cups. So now they have two
number ones with him and Puka, So why not that's
been the trend.

Speaker 7 (14:15):
Bengals are doing it. Yeah, yeah, I can see Pittsburgh
doing it well.

Speaker 10 (14:18):
You talk about the hypotheticals, and the reason why I
brought up the Chargers is the Chargers got Lad McConkey.

Speaker 7 (14:23):
We just saw last night that.

Speaker 10 (14:24):
They're well tuned, oiled machine right now. Like something about preseason,
it reveals your discipline, like your execution. You can't really
take anything else from it. But they executed well and
they have a really good run game. Now they do
have Lad McConkie, who is a slot wide receiver, so
for those short to medium routes, he's an expert in that,
but you need somebody on the outside or outside of

(14:44):
him that can stretch the field. And that's all Terry
McLaurin has done during his whole career in the NFL
is stretched the field, like get vertical, take the safety
out of there. Now, when you pair those two guys up,
Lad McConkie and somebody like Terry McLaurin, that's where you
get that offense or defensively you're looking at You're like, man,
this is this is going to be a monster to take.

Speaker 1 (15:05):
Listen, Jayden Daniels has played three career playoff games. In
all three playoff games, he threw a touchdown to Terry McLaurin.
That's a big thing to take away. And if you
do that, if that we're having that happen. And let's
say Jayden takes a step back this year, that's.

Speaker 4 (15:20):
On your hands. Then watch those playoff games.

Speaker 1 (15:22):
The first one against the Bucks, he targeted him ten times.
He looks for McLaurin, he looks for Ertze, those old veterans.
It's tough to take away your franchise's favorite toy.

Speaker 4 (15:32):
I think they have to find a.

Speaker 7 (15:33):
Way to keep him there.

Speaker 3 (15:34):
All I know is that we passed the test.

Speaker 2 (15:36):
Just now, talking about a star wide receiver in the
NFL asking for a trade. We had two potential suitors
pop up. They were pitched to the table, but nobody
uttered the words that rhyme with schmanding spots.

Speaker 3 (15:46):
So excellent. Good job everybody.

Speaker 2 (15:48):
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That is a professional television show right there. We've got
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Speaker 3 (16:09):
Everywhere.

Speaker 2 (16:10):
We got Giants practice, Sea Off Scooper Cups stopping by Renton, Washington,
and then here from LT in Campton.

Speaker 3 (16:18):
Great Steve boys out there. Perfect. Here we go with
Damian Collinson. There's so many LT's that I feel.

Speaker 2 (16:24):
Like I have to track all right too, Lamar the
best point ever, that's enough to have to clarify it. Okay,
two time MVP, but he's yet to appear a Super Bowl.
Oh boy, can you be one of the best without
posting success is August first, You guys, these are the
kind of questions. We're asking Kyle, there's a reason I'm
wearing my Titan sweatshirt today.

Speaker 3 (16:41):
I'm trying to look to the future.

Speaker 1 (16:44):
Okay, I hope it's here because I like the Titans
a lot.

Speaker 4 (16:47):
Apparently they're not looking great thus far in training camp.

Speaker 7 (16:50):
Blah blah.

Speaker 1 (16:51):
You hear this about all these teams, but not like this,
because the rookie quarterback says his own way, have his
own way of saying that we're not playing well right now.
It's an interesting quote, an interesting times.

Speaker 7 (17:02):
I'm a great player. Don't go anywhere.

Speaker 4 (17:13):
Good morning football.

Speaker 3 (17:15):
How are you going for two?

Speaker 2 (17:18):
Going to what's happening? I like like this going for two?
First overall pick? The first overall pick. Cam Ward was
asked this week people checked in with where the Titans
offense is at right now and a very honest assessment
from the quarterback in Tennessee.

Speaker 3 (17:31):
You take a listen.

Speaker 12 (17:33):
I just think we're very met right now from my
position to upfront to the receivers position. But at the
end of they all starts with me. I just I
just don't think where we need to be. But we
got we got a little bit of time, so every
day we get better.

Speaker 6 (17:46):
As a whole. We're a young team. That's no excuge.
At the end the day. We got to come with
the right monsset every day and come to work.

Speaker 2 (17:51):
I get real uncomfortable when young people start using terms
that I have.

Speaker 3 (17:54):
No concept for.

Speaker 2 (17:55):
Like I want to say mid, I'm not sure how
to apply it. But actually cam Ward helped me understand
it better calling the offense mid. Do we think that
cam Ward us in the offense this way is helpful?

Speaker 7 (18:06):
Man? Tie?

Speaker 2 (18:07):
What do you make of a rookie quarterback talking about
his offense like this but also taking responsibility.

Speaker 1 (18:11):
Yeah?

Speaker 10 (18:11):
I love it because he talked about his offense, but
he also talked about himself, you know, be the change
you wish.

Speaker 3 (18:15):
To wish to see in the world.

Speaker 7 (18:18):
In the world.

Speaker 3 (18:19):
There you go, let's go.

Speaker 10 (18:20):
I love the fact that this young rookie is getting
up there and he's first starting off with himself.

Speaker 7 (18:24):
He said, we need to get on the same page.

Speaker 10 (18:26):
Later on in the interview, he says, I have to
get on the same page with my receivers. I have
to watch more film. I have to be more accurate
the football. That is what cam Ward has has been about. Now,
if you don't get that. Then we have a clip
that I want to throw to to give you an
even further idea of what this guy's made of.

Speaker 6 (18:44):
I'm just a big person on work.

Speaker 12 (18:48):
I said, yes, sir, I've grown up watched my dad
wake up at four thirty doing a job he didn't like.
So no, if I can't wake up early and do
what I need to do for a job, I do
like I shouldn't be playing football. And that goes to
everybody in the locker room. If you can't have the
expectation for yourself that you want to be with the
good or a great player and want to put the
work in. Oh, I just think that how it should go.

(19:08):
I just think good things only come to those who work.

Speaker 7 (19:11):
Come on, now, Like, what else do you want? Guys?

Speaker 10 (19:13):
Like, I know there's certain clips from certain it, but
what else do you want?

Speaker 7 (19:17):
Like if you are a Tennessee Titans.

Speaker 10 (19:18):
Fan, if you're a teammate of him, if you're his coach, Like,
what else do you.

Speaker 7 (19:23):
Want to point to? If you're coach Callahan, He's like,
be like, this guy do what he does.

Speaker 10 (19:28):
Have the same expectation that he has because he's obviously
built up the right stuff. His father was a great
example to him, and I think he's being a great
example for the Tennessee Titans. So they need somebody like that.
And if I was a teammate of him, a veteran
that's in that locker room, I would look at it
and be like, man, you know what, you're right Like,
we all got to.

Speaker 7 (19:44):
Push in the same direction.

Speaker 10 (19:46):
And it starts with him being the leader, and it
starts with me being your teammate, and we're going to
push it push the same same way.

Speaker 7 (19:52):
So I love it. I gotta say I love that. Will.

Speaker 11 (19:54):
Yeah, I really resonate with that clip. It reminds you
of my father. He worked three shifts at the prison.
He's a prison guard and managed to make sure I
got to school, never missed the game. So I just
appreciate his hard work. And so for this is not
surprising at all. How Kim Wood is. I mean, everywhere
he's gone he has earned it. Every team he has
gone to, he has improved. Every team he has gone

(20:16):
to he has made better.

Speaker 7 (20:18):
And now in this.

Speaker 11 (20:18):
Situation, you know, he's not just like shown he's a quarterback.
He's trying to win the locker room. And now with
Will lev Is being injured. It is more clear and
more apparent on him being the guy. And then yeah,
the term mid, that's that's just normal, right, he has
high expectations. Mid is just saying we're not doing well.
So I have accepted that term. But overall, man, I

(20:39):
do love this because it is it is his team.
And why wait now he's not just happy to be
in the NFL, He's excited to be the star quarterback
for the Titans.

Speaker 1 (20:47):
Well, I think the quote pops because I'll speak for
some of us. I suffer from a little bit of
mid fatigue as a term, Like, I hear a lot
of mid. I see the term a lot. My kid
says made everything's mid, everything's mid. I gave my kid
a strawberry milkshake. He sucked it down in thirty seconds. Like,
how was has mid?

Speaker 4 (21:06):
That wasn't mid? That was fire.

Speaker 1 (21:08):
I'm not gonna say it's goaded, but it's at least.

Speaker 4 (21:10):
Sigma like I'm trying to communicate.

Speaker 1 (21:12):
I'm trying that was Everything's not mid, And I'm so
tired of I saw this thing online where somebody like
blew up because they said Ann Hathaway is mid. Have
you ever seen that Hathaway, She's not mid is ridiculous.
So anyway, you see that phrase, and I think it's
a fun phrase, and I like when my kids says it,
but just too much. There has to be some other
distinguishing words between beta and mid and fire like that's

(21:36):
we need more levels and stuff like that.

Speaker 4 (21:38):
So he throws that out.

Speaker 1 (21:39):
I will say, Titans offense kind of mid, kind of mid.

Speaker 4 (21:42):
It's fine.

Speaker 1 (21:43):
They won three games last year, they have a rookie quarterback.
What do you expect they're gonna be the greatest show
on turf? Of course they're kind of mid. I feel
like mid is a compliment for the Titans after where
they've come from. It's fine, everything's gonna be all right.
I like that he says that. I like that he's
bold and unapologetic. This is the kind of quarterback we need,
fire goaded, sigma alpha, skippity riz.

Speaker 4 (22:02):
I don't know all the stuff my kids says.

Speaker 3 (22:06):
Given he is, oh Man, well done, Kyle.

Speaker 2 (22:09):
I don't mid fatigue like you are at mid level
season fatigue. Buddy, it's only agust starts. You can't be
at mid fatigue. But once again it was misapplied. Next up,
I'm going for two. We got to take a look
at this video from the Ravens. Their cornerback, Marlon Humphrey
posts on social media asking a decorated swimmer for help
with the team.

Speaker 5 (22:30):
And mister Phelps, we have a problem.

Speaker 6 (22:33):
Did you know that one of three Ravens cannot win.
We have a solution for you, sir.

Speaker 12 (22:41):
Come to Ravens training campion this beautiful aquatic center and
teach us how to swim.

Speaker 2 (22:51):
One in three Ravens don't know how to swim, so
they're asking a Baltimore legend, Michael Phelps to help them
with tech, great swimmer and the history of Olympics. He's
got it, they I mean, Phelps has been all over
the Ravens. He's done the welcoming the team on the field.

Speaker 3 (23:03):
So he's to this day.

Speaker 2 (23:05):
Ago her responded, moves to it. So he's got his back.
Michael Phelps is going to be there. Here's the assignment
now for the table and going for two. Pick a
team or a player or a coach. What have you
a situation if you will in the NFL and find
them a professional that this situation needs help with.

Speaker 10 (23:19):
Man is hard, This is a hard task. I think
this was hard. Okay, But do you guys know the
name Kunishki? Do you know KB Musashi Motu is that
philosopher Pokemon sumo wrestlers. Okay, and they got hole ties
to him. I heard about him growing up.

Speaker 1 (23:36):
I know Honda, yeah Yo, I know Yoka Zuna.

Speaker 7 (23:44):
We could use some in Honda too.

Speaker 4 (23:46):
Well.

Speaker 10 (23:46):
The team I got is the Bears, because the Bears
you have a really good quarterback. You have one of
the best offensive minds as your head coach, but you
need to keep that quarterback on his feet. They gave
up sixty eight sacks last year, and so they need
one of those big boys over there to go. I
think Michael Parsons even went over there was wrestling one
one time. Yes, yes, yeah, go over there and just
learn how to keep your look at that. Imagine the

(24:08):
old lineman on the Blitz just picking up a d
N like that.

Speaker 7 (24:11):
I think they need to sumer wrestler.

Speaker 10 (24:13):
I'll keep Bona will be a great, great teacher for them.

Speaker 7 (24:16):
So I got the first.

Speaker 2 (24:17):
Time on GMFB that a photo has been blurred. I
need an editorial history lesson on that because I got
to see that.

Speaker 3 (24:24):
I guess there.

Speaker 1 (24:25):
Haven't been many of those. I'm glad it was to
those diapers. Don't hold everything, but I love that.

Speaker 4 (24:31):
There we go. You got whatever is going down there,
it kills. Believe me, we don't want any of that many.
That is a perfect answer.

Speaker 1 (24:38):
Well though, and I'm thinking about I Honda and Joe Toney.

Speaker 4 (24:42):
You wait, that's win.

Speaker 3 (24:46):
We will what you got.

Speaker 11 (24:47):
So we're gonna we're gonna go to Miami. The Dolphins.
You know, they're known for having an interesting head. Coach
Dan knows you have, you know, speed, finesse, flash, but
you haven't won a playoff game since two thousand. You know,
you win against the Ravens twice, punching the face, win
against the Steelers, punching the face, went against.

Speaker 4 (25:04):
The BI and KC.

Speaker 11 (25:05):
So you need someone that's gonna bring the toughness. We're
gonna bring Chuck Liddell. We're gonna bring the man that
I watched in the nice out. We're gonna bring the
Iceman all the way down to South Beach. We're not
going to the beach, We're going to the octagon. You
cannot win games. You cannot win championship games with finess.
I learned that I won a Super Bowl with the Giants,
and we won with toughness, beating the Patriots. You need

(25:25):
to learn how to knock somebody out. He won a
streak from I think it was two thousand and three
to two thousand and six. We had consecutive knockouts. The
last one was over Tito Ortiz and so let's go, man.
We need we need to figure out how can we
punch somebody in the mouth because we cannot win games
with finess. Chuck Ladell help my dolphins out, please.

Speaker 4 (25:42):
Yeah, the Ladell Prime was awesome. That was really fun.

Speaker 7 (25:44):
It was the iceman.

Speaker 1 (25:46):
I'm gonna look at Yeah, I'm gonna look at Deebo,
Samuel on the Commanders, you know who.

Speaker 4 (25:51):
I want him to hang out with.

Speaker 1 (25:52):
Luka Doncic and those guys can just hang out and
stay slim and the whak grass and the jogging and
the cover of magazines for Luca. Now, because both of
these guys were taking fire that allegedly potentially obviously they
looked like a little bit bigger than they were before.
But Luca apparently has slimmed down like crazy. Deebo's playing

(26:13):
well in Commander's camp.

Speaker 4 (26:14):
I just you got to you gotta stay strong.

Speaker 1 (26:15):
You have to have a support system as the season
gets on and maybe some of your.

Speaker 4 (26:19):
Habits fade away.

Speaker 1 (26:20):
So the two of these guys from Slovenia and South
Carolina perfect match.

Speaker 3 (26:25):
Oh my gosh, count.

Speaker 11 (26:26):
Listen, Jamie, the food in Texas is different than the
food and.

Speaker 4 (26:32):
Luca's gonna slim.

Speaker 11 (26:33):
Well, that's what it is, man, the food in Texas.
I gained like twenty pounds in two months based stuff
out here.

Speaker 3 (26:39):
That's true.

Speaker 2 (26:39):
You guys went so with the physicality of your take,
like you with the simo and hitting people, and Duke
and Luca I had the books. I'm going to ask
the Dallas Cowboys. I think we should just send a
couple of like CPA's there, like accountants, like just I
think sometimes when we have issues with like our star
player Micah Parsons, like just like get the deal done,

(27:02):
like make certified financial future decision making plans. So just
like the one of the most basic or mid jobs.

Speaker 3 (27:10):
I don't know, I feel like CPA. I'm a CPA.
Like when people say that.

Speaker 2 (27:13):
On an airplane, there's like nowhere that conversation goes after that.

Speaker 3 (27:16):
You're like, I'm a CPA.

Speaker 2 (27:17):
But sometimes it's the job that you need the most,
So like, let's just like send a bunch of CPAs
to Dallas and just make sure that we are good
financially moving forward. It can be more of a collaborative
effort because it's awkward when you're like signing a tight
end to a long term deal, but you still have
like your guy waiting to get a deal done.

Speaker 3 (27:33):
So I'm going with the cps like the Cowboys.

Speaker 2 (27:34):
I was gonna pick the Commanders too, but you know,
we already got them taken care of.

Speaker 3 (27:38):
Lucas. Ye, just a couple.

Speaker 2 (27:42):
We just got to set a fleet of CPAs out
inside training camp blin, you know your bards.

Speaker 3 (27:46):
We had CPAs all over the country.

Speaker 4 (27:48):
Well.

Speaker 13 (27:48):
Making it to the NFL Hall of Fame is rare
and special as it is, but former Charters tight end
Antonio Gates is making NFL history. This Saturday, he officially
becomes the first player enshrined into the Pro Football Hall
of Fame.

Speaker 3 (28:02):
Without ever playing college football.

Speaker 13 (28:05):
Let's take a look back at Gates's incredible journey to Kenton.

Speaker 14 (28:11):
I came with a whole different form of the whole
different way of using the tight end position going in going.

Speaker 15 (28:17):
For Kate touchdown San Diego.

Speaker 16 (28:20):
He was an incredible athlete. He had incredible instincts. Add
that timing trust element to it, it made him.

Speaker 4 (28:26):
Unstoppable touchdown Antonio.

Speaker 3 (28:29):
Games are you Kidney?

Speaker 14 (28:31):
A free agent basketball player, became the all time tight
ends touchdown leader.

Speaker 15 (28:44):
Antonio gates unlikely road to Kent began at Kent State,
where a power forward led the Golden Flashes to the
NCAA Basketball Tournament's Elite eight. Though he never played a
down of college football, his path to pro started took
an unexpected detour.

Speaker 14 (29:02):
I can just remember, like it was yesterday, all these
NFL scouts was at my basketball game, and I was
kind of unsure why they was even there, because in
my mind, I'm going to the NBA.

Speaker 15 (29:13):
Everyone encouraged him to play football in Kent State, but
he just loved basketball.

Speaker 6 (29:17):
He wanted to be in the gym and playing basketball.

Speaker 17 (29:21):
He had a coach that was pushing him to try
to go play football and at the option to try
to play basketball, and really for him, it was a
simple decision, I need to go.

Speaker 9 (29:30):
Make a living.

Speaker 18 (29:31):
One of our scouts was reviewing all the tight ends
and his name came up and he said, this is
potentially a very special individual, and the only tape they
had on was playing in college as a basketball player.

Speaker 15 (29:47):
The Chargers took a chance in sign Gates as an
undrafted free agent, but a massive challenge was ahead.

Speaker 4 (29:54):
The first season.

Speaker 6 (29:55):
Antonio was really raw.

Speaker 14 (29:57):
So just understand like he had no concepts of the
passing game or how to run routes.

Speaker 16 (30:05):
You know, it's one thing just to kind of run
around and be a great athlete. It's another thing to
really lock in on the fundamentals of football. Again rocked
by Antonio Gates, and in the back of my mind,
I'm thinking, man, that may be a lost cast.

Speaker 6 (30:18):
You know.

Speaker 14 (30:19):
I tried to learn from the guys who I consider
some of the best players in the game, and I
used that as Fudel.

Speaker 13 (30:26):
Look again, John Gates touchdown, first NFL touchdown, Florida rookie
at Kemp State.

Speaker 14 (30:32):
Antonio Gates going into my second year, teammates, a receiver
was telling me, he was like, man, yeah, man, it
looked like you're gonna be the man this year.

Speaker 1 (30:41):
They are really high on Antonio Gate to the second
Yearles turned out to be a very special player.

Speaker 4 (30:47):
Once he truly learned to playbook.

Speaker 10 (30:49):
We actually started running plays for Antonio Gates.

Speaker 15 (30:53):
He hasn't He's got it, noth thing of beauty.

Speaker 16 (30:56):
It was like we opened up the entire array of
the offense to Gates, all of these routes that typically
would just be designated for like the elite receivers. All
of a sudden, our second year basketball tight end, who's
executing all this to perfection.

Speaker 7 (31:11):
This kid is really going to be an extraordinary football player.

Speaker 14 (31:15):
The first year was kind of meat building the confidence.

Speaker 9 (31:19):
Great catch rookie tight end, Antonio Gates.

Speaker 14 (31:22):
From that point on, it just seems like a snowball.

Speaker 6 (31:25):
It was this guy's plan.

Speaker 9 (31:26):
Some think windmilling touchdown Antonio Gates has done it.

Speaker 16 (31:32):
In any critical situation, you knew the ball was going
to go to Gates, and you knew that the defense
could do nothing about it.

Speaker 4 (31:37):
Towards the end on up in the year one hand catch,
Antonio Gate.

Speaker 19 (31:40):
He done it.

Speaker 4 (31:41):
He's amazing. Put down San Diego.

Speaker 15 (31:45):
Over sixteen years with the Chargers, Gates finished fourth old
time in receptions and receiving yards among tight ends and
made even more history along the way.

Speaker 19 (31:55):
Looking for Gates going to the end zone touchdown Chargers
Antonio Gates.

Speaker 10 (32:00):
He has become the most successful touchdown catching tight inn
in NFL history.

Speaker 15 (32:12):
Now this unique offensive force makes the next leak into
football immortality.

Speaker 10 (32:19):
Jazy, it's my honor to welcome you to the Pro
Football Hall of Famer.

Speaker 6 (32:30):
I'm a Hall of Famer, baby, get that ball.

Speaker 19 (32:38):
To can't grab Antonio's gold jacket while you're there.

Speaker 16 (32:42):
There's nobody more deserving to get the gold jacket than
Antonio Gates.

Speaker 17 (32:46):
Tight Ends used to be known as lockers who occasionally
caught a pass here and there, and he redefined that position.

Speaker 18 (32:53):
The most important thing for me is seeing the reaction
that he has because he's worked so hard for it.

Speaker 4 (32:59):
He deserves it.

Speaker 7 (33:01):
The word dominate it means master of craft and.

Speaker 14 (33:04):
I saw that if from Antonio, and that's why he
was one of the best guys. Fight call sacrifice to
become a Hall of Famer, and you get to a
place where its football have.

Speaker 13 (33:17):
It in football, heaving Gates saying I'm a Hall of Famer, baby,
Yes you are. Gates will be just the tenth tight
end enshrined into the Pro Football Hall of Fame, an accomplishment,
he told.

Speaker 3 (33:29):
The Chargers website, is like a fiction story.

Speaker 13 (33:31):
Will my friend that fiction becoming a reality on Saturday
and you can watch it on NFL networks turning at
noon Eastern. But coming up here, Lamar Jackson already with
two MVP awards to his name, but is the best
yet to come?

Speaker 3 (33:44):
For the reasons qub here when his head coach and
even his.

Speaker 13 (33:47):
Offensive coordinator had to say about improving his game even more.

Speaker 7 (34:05):
Football.

Speaker 2 (34:07):
The NFL is said to host this first ever game
in Berlin this season as excitement for American football is
before booming in Germany and global flag football.

Speaker 3 (34:17):
Participation is at an all time high.

Speaker 2 (34:19):
Earlier this week, i FAF, the International Federation of American Football,
announced that Duseldorf, Germany, will host the twenty twenty six
Flag Football World Championships next summer. This will be the
biggest global elite flag football event leading up to LA
twenty eight, where the sport will make its historic Olympic debut.
This is a pivotal milestone for national teams vying for

(34:41):
a spot in the Olympics.

Speaker 4 (34:44):
Oo, we don't wait to hold you golboard.

Speaker 11 (34:47):
He's got twenty time touchdown.

Speaker 4 (34:51):
Blavar Jackson own slim cholutely.

Speaker 10 (34:55):
Oh love Jackson the part jactor.

Speaker 9 (34:59):
Today touchdown paxas b Blavar.

Speaker 17 (35:03):
In the low.

Speaker 4 (35:04):
Oh my goodness, are you hitting me?

Speaker 6 (35:08):
Name somebody else right now?

Speaker 4 (35:09):
We do that?

Speaker 2 (35:10):
No, buddy, name somebody else who can do that? Nobody
that's that guy. Yesterday, Raven's offensive coordinator Todd Monkin had
some high praise, which is probably very easy for him
to say for his two time MVP quarterback number eight.

Speaker 20 (35:28):
I think he sees the field better now than he
did even two years ago. I can't speak before then.
I can just speak to how he sees the field
based on what we're doing offensively so and the players
that we have in the system, and I really do
I only think he's just getting started with his ability.
He's always had the ability as a playmaker and to

(35:50):
run with the ball, but his ability as he's improved greatly,
which is a huge credit to him and his ability
to throw the football to win at all times of
the game.

Speaker 2 (36:01):
Lamar Jackson has a handful of playoff games under his belt,
but January he's always tricky for him. His head coach
John Harbo, though, also had nice words to compound the
praise for the quarterback yesterday, saying, quote, he can throw
it every kind of way. He can make every kind
of throw any way you want. He's as good as
any passer that there's ever been, and I think now
the numbers are proving that.

Speaker 3 (36:23):
All right, Harba Monkin.

Speaker 2 (36:25):
Lamar Jackson does have a couple of MVP rings, but
he hasn't been able to get this thing done in
the playoffs. He's three and five in the postseason. So
our whiteboards are out, our markers are uncapped, and you
have a one word assignment. What is the one word
fill in the blank if you will to describe Lamar
Jackson's career so far, Manti.

Speaker 10 (36:44):
Well, to describe it in one word is a challenge,
but I'm going to take on that challenge. It's unfinished, okay.
He's been in the league for seven years. He's accomplished
so many great things. He currently holds the record for
the most rush yards by a QB in NFL history,
two time MVP.

Speaker 7 (37:01):
The list goes on and on and on as far
as accolades.

Speaker 10 (37:04):
But when it comes to the playoff, you mentioned it, Jamie,
When it comes to the playoff, there has been unfinished
business there. He's been to the playoffs every year except
two years of his career, he's played in an AFC
Championship and so therefore, not only are is his career.

Speaker 7 (37:21):
Unfinished as to the excitement to.

Speaker 10 (37:23):
What he can accomplish and will accomplish in this league,
but it's also unfinished too, the fact of he's accomplished
so much, but they're still unfinished business to get to
the super Bowl, to get past the Chiefs, to represent
the Baltimore Ravens the way he wants to, the way
that he said he wanted to when he got drafted,
that he wanted to win a super Bowl for him.

Speaker 7 (37:42):
So it's unfinished for me, will Yeah.

Speaker 11 (37:44):
For me, the word I have is evolutionary, and that's
the way I think of when it comes to Lamar,
because when he first came into the league, right when
he was getting looked at, you know, obviously all the
highlights what he's done, he was known as being two raw,
as a true runner, and that's all he can do.
But then by year two he's a unanimous MVP and
he's in a system of Greg Roman that it was

(38:05):
built for his legs. So everyone's like, okay, maybe we can.

Speaker 7 (38:07):
Take away the run.

Speaker 11 (38:09):
He can't do much, Okay, let's bring in a new
coordinator in top Monken, and then he ends up winning
MVP being a more sophisticated passer.

Speaker 7 (38:15):
And the other thing, too, is for me.

Speaker 4 (38:17):
I was like, how is he commanding the offense?

Speaker 7 (38:20):
What a mouthpiece in the past, that's fire a mouthpiece
and he's still able to command it.

Speaker 11 (38:25):
So the thing for me is like he has evolved
and if he was able to master two systems, and
that is for me, that is absolutely outstanding, and he
really changed and revolutional wise how the game is now
as a quarterback, because right now, the last two quarterbacks
to win MVP were equally good passes and equally good
runners when you look at Lamar and Josh Allen. So

(38:45):
for him, just an evolutionary is what I have for Lamar.

Speaker 4 (38:48):
Well, I had to google and make sure that my
word was one word and not two words. But it
is one word, mailman. That's Lamar is Carmelone for me
and for the.

Speaker 1 (38:58):
Love of God, we'll keep it on the court and
the field for Karl Malone's sake. Two time MVP, arguably
the great that his position, unbelievable phenom, hugely respected, player dominance.

Speaker 4 (39:10):
No one could contain him two.

Speaker 1 (39:11):
Time MVP is just couldn't get over the hump, cring
it over the hump, and maybe that's not going to
be Lamar.

Speaker 4 (39:17):
Maybe Lamar will end up being somebody who breaks through.

Speaker 1 (39:20):
But it's okay to calling you the football equivalent of
of Carl Malone on the basketball court in the football
field is a massive compliment.

Speaker 4 (39:27):
I think it's either him or.

Speaker 1 (39:28):
Duncan has the greatest power forward ever, two time MVP,
no title, always just selecting that little thing that you
were hoping that he might get one. If you're a
Jazz fan or a Malone fan, same place with Lamar,
it's a testament to his greatness that it's hard to
talk about him and his legacy without constantly saying yeah,
but he.

Speaker 4 (39:45):
Still has to.

Speaker 1 (39:46):
But that's how good he is, and that's how the
conversation has to go.

Speaker 4 (39:49):
That's sports.

Speaker 3 (39:49):
It's a good take. It's a good parallel, Kyle.

Speaker 2 (39:51):
I want to make sure I'm going to ask the
production to clear the lower throw before I show my
word because I don't really want the screen grabs to
live on because people are going to be so mad
at me.

Speaker 3 (39:59):
I just want to try this out because I think
this actually would be how.

Speaker 2 (40:02):
Lamar Jackson might assess his career one word way through.
I mean, the numbers are prolific, we get it, two.

Speaker 3 (40:08):
Time MVP, blah blah blah blah blah. But the playoff
thing and the Super Bowl thing.

Speaker 2 (40:12):
I bet if you ask Lamar Jackson maybe like it's
been mid is that Kyle?

Speaker 3 (40:17):
Could he say it? Could he dare say it?

Speaker 2 (40:19):
Because I'm sure if you ask him, Hey, the numbers
are amazing. If you listed all the four thousand yards
this is that, he'd be like, it's all right, I
want to be there. I want to be in late January.
I want to be in early February. So I wonder
if you would say.

Speaker 7 (40:31):
This has no Galileo Galilee was born in Pisa.

Speaker 19 (40:36):
He's the one who challenged the theory that objects fall
faster if they're heavier, believe it or not. Without him,
we just think that a heavy object falls faster than
a light object.

Speaker 7 (40:45):
And that's just not true.

Speaker 6 (40:46):
About the centripical force.

Speaker 19 (40:49):
It's actually the force of acceleration of bravity, which is
negative nine point eight well not negative, but nine point
eight one meters per second.

Speaker 6 (40:58):
What squared?

Speaker 3 (41:01):
Why are all the quarterbacks like this this offseason.

Speaker 2 (41:03):
Why have I feel like they are beyond It's like
what I feel like my kids are going to be
like when they get into high school math, Like, oh man,
that is right over my head. Hard Knocks Training Camp
with the Bills premieres August fifth on HBO. Max Kyle,
your thoughts on Burrow and Josh Allen and the fact
that they're talking about galile Loo and Galato.

Speaker 1 (41:19):
You need guys without them knowing they know they got
the mic. We need to get under the skin and
Mike when they don't even know, yeah, to be able
to throw a dart.

Speaker 13 (41:31):
And like dump Beck, yes exactly, and you're like, I
didn't know.

Speaker 3 (41:34):
I had no idea. You learned something new every darning,
but in like a loving way,
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