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Speaker 3 (01:27):
Ian Rappapork, good morning to you. Are you wearing a tuxedo?
Let's check, No, you are not your regular rap sheets,
suit and tie. We love that for you. We heard
from Aaron Rodgers yesterday and there was a lot of
commentary about his life, things that are going on. But
how does this pertain to his football future?
Speaker 7 (01:43):
Aaron Rodgers hit the Pat McAfee show for the first
time in several months to quote clear the air and
really fix some of the misconceptions that have been out
there and reported of him over the last several months.
After this entire episode, it was basically forty five minutes
of Aaron Rodgers. I think it's great to say we
were left with far more questions than actual answers.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
But here there's what we.
Speaker 7 (02:04):
Learned from Rogers on the McAfee show. First of all,
most importantly, no decision. He has not yet agreed to
terms with the Pittsburgh Steelers. He has not committed to
play for the Steeers. The last time we did this,
he went on Pat show and we were talking about
was there going to be the Jets, and he said
I want to play for the Jets. That was not
the case here left it very open ended. In fact,
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McAfee asked him, is it safe to say there's a
lot of buzz with the Steelers. Is it's safe to
say if you're playing anywhere it's Pittsburgh.
Speaker 6 (02:31):
He didn't even want to say that.
Speaker 7 (02:33):
He also said there's no timeline for his decisions, that
he's been upfront with the Pittsburgh Steelers, that has been
open with them. Those conversations with Mike tom And and others continue,
but they have not said that it has to be
a decision.
Speaker 5 (02:45):
Before the draft.
Speaker 7 (02:46):
So I think it's safe to say now, based on
what I heard yesterday, there's not going to be a
decision before the draft. He also cleared up a misconception
that he was waiting for the Viking, something Ben Roethlisberger
had opined that is not the case. Does not seem
like Minnesota is in the car Drims. Seems like they
are moving forward with JJ. McCarthy also shotdown any thoughts
of him wanting a multi year, huge, multi million dollar deal,
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said now I would play for ten million dollars, which
first starting quarterback would actually be a good deal if
in fact he wants to play. Rogers said, retirement is
still on the table for him. So after that entire thing,
what's out there is basically all the options. Rogers said,
he's going through a lot in his personal life. That
has been most of his focus, and he spends very
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little time thinking about actual football. He's not holding anyone hostage.
He's not ready to make a decision just yet.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
Okay, rap sheet, We appreciate that we are going to
continue to discuss this Aaron Rodgers situation and how it
plays out. This thing stresses me out as much as
taking an actual multiple choice test in school. There's so
many pathways this thing could go, and we're still sitting
on d all of the above. Will how do you
see this thing going?
Speaker 4 (03:52):
You know what, My heart started racing because I watched
that and when I look at all the greats and
the legends for them to make a decision, they need
some fuel to keep going right. And so I took
a look at the Stealless schedule and I'm like, you
know what, They play Green Bay at home check, they
go to Chicago, which Aaron Rodgers apparently owns check.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
And they go to the New York Jets.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
They also go to Dublin as an international marketing experience
with Rogers at the Helm would be a pretty entertaining.
Speaker 6 (04:20):
Part of that.
Speaker 5 (04:20):
Yees.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
So they do.
Speaker 4 (04:21):
And the thing is they do play the Jets based
off everything he said. He clearly he is furious with
the situation Hollywood was handled. So, I mean, I honestly,
if it's either Steelers or nothing, I think if it's
not Pittsburgh, he's going to shut it down and go home.
But I mean there is more than a few for
him to go there and play some football.
Speaker 5 (04:38):
I honestly think that.
Speaker 8 (04:39):
Like it's tough on these teams because they're waiting, Like
the Steelers, they're waiting on the decision.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
From Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 8 (04:46):
So they have to decide like are we going to
continue to wait on this guy or do we move on?
And he did say the Pat mccaff and pats show
that he's not holding any of them hostage. So if
they do want to move on, they can do that.
But he wants to keep open line and communication, which
I do respect in that aspect if you have something
going on in your personal life. I mean, you got
to respect it from a team standpoint. So it's an
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interesting thing. But Aaron Rodgers to me is still Aaron Rodgers.
So I think that's why the Stellers are being patient
in the situation.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
You're still in the like you'd be lucky to have
them category if he decided to come, because.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
He's seen it. We call him rocketman.
Speaker 5 (05:23):
His arm is top notch.
Speaker 6 (05:25):
I've never heard anybody call him tho. Is that commonly
known amongst defenders in the street?
Speaker 2 (05:29):
Yeah, the film in their weddings.
Speaker 5 (05:34):
I prefer.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
I'm a fan. I'm a fan. I'm also a fan
of Ana Rodgers. I hope he plays. I really do,
especially for a place like the Steelers.
Speaker 9 (05:42):
It's an iconic franchise. You're right, like they're kind of waiting.
It's the waiting game. So what do they do late
in the draft? Like, there's a bunch of guys that
I think are really talented backup quarterbacks maybe could develop.
Do they try to go get one of those? Regardless
of Aaron Rodgers situation?
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Do they move on? The thing I took away from
his interview was when he.
Speaker 9 (05:57):
Said he had his juice back and he was with
DK and they worked out. We heard from Deshaun Foster
yesterday that worked out at Westwood and at the juices
were flowing, he was spinning it. You saw a couple
of those clips to me that says like he wants
to keep playing.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
To it a degree, we're all reading.
Speaker 9 (06:11):
Into it obviously, but does he go but prior to
training camp? And if not, I wonder, like, come October,
is it like I want to keep playing like and
that all of a sudden you have an injury and
gets another phone call to me, I didn't think like, yep,
he's to lean towards retirement. I felt as though, I
feel like this guy might not make make a little
comeback he potentially for the Steelers.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
I think this is bigger than a Rogers observation that
I've made about these quarterbacks that are great and that
have a certain amount of ego, which you're going to
have when you're great at something. But Rogers cares about
what this thing looks like at the end. And this
the longer it goes, the more I think he's going
to come back. And I think other people feel the
opposite end of the spectrum. Kyle Brandt has said several
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times on this show that he hopes that Rogers has
played his last snap only because he wants it to
be done. It was excellent when it was when it
was happening, But we've seen the best from him. I
believe that the longer we wait, the more likely is
that we're going to see him come back. Because this
is clunky. I find it awkward. I find that this
is the thing that people are going to remember him
for and not maybe like a final throw in a
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wild card game, or the man hasn't seen the playoffs
in several years now. I have to imagine that he
wants to play his way back into a conversation where he's.
Speaker 6 (07:24):
Remembered a certain way.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
My curiosity now goes back to what we've been talking
about all week, which is the draft this next week.
What the heck do the Steelers do, not knowing what
is happening with their quarterback room. If you have Rogers,
if you don't have Rogers, what do the Steelers do?
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Well, it's a great question.
Speaker 9 (07:40):
I think if they do have them, I think we'd
all probably agree it's a year.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
So yeah, I think for them that probably gives you
a little bit of reprieve of heart. If we don't
take a guy.
Speaker 9 (07:48):
If we don't go try to get Jalen Milrope, we
don't try to get Tyler Shuck, we don't try to
get one of those kind of second tier guys. I
don't think you're going to see them climb up to
get a shador A cam War to Jackson Dart.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
I don't see that happening.
Speaker 9 (07:59):
So I think if I am them, I'm probably not
going quarterback in this draft, like you've got to and
Mason Rudolph, who's been through pretty much everything in the NFL,
He's clearly experienced, and then try to navigate it and
kind of go from there. That's what I would do. However, them,
I wouldn't draft somebody. I try to build this thing
in anticipation of Aaron potentially playing it.
Speaker 4 (08:17):
Yeah, I go to Cassiria route, Like you said, just
draft for fit. Don't go out there and force yourself to, oh,
yeah we need a quarterback, we need it one for
the past couple of years ago. They still if they
need they need some linemen, left tackles, and need more
playmakers all over the field. So yeah, I wouldn't stress
about trying to address get in a quarterback right now,
like continue to build that team, and that's something usually
the Steelers have done well in the past.
Speaker 8 (08:39):
I think that like going in with Mason Rudolph and
then you get a receiver like DK Metcalf, you need
to develop quarterback. Yeah, and so I think, like make it.
If you're not going to get Aaron Rodgers, you've got
to go find somebody on the market like Kirk Cousins
or somebody, somebody that's proven that they can come in
and win you football games. Because this is the Pittsburgh Steelers.
Mike Tomlin is kind of like, you know, the Steelers
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really haven't been where they've usually been right so now
it's like we need to get somebody that's going to
come in and take over this game. I don't know
if Mason Rudolf is that guy right now, So I
think it's going to be up to them whether what
they do with the quarterback position.
Speaker 6 (09:17):
I think it's a good point. Tony. People are constantly saying.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
About Tomlin, like, oh, he's had the X many winning
his seasons in a row. Like if I were Tomlin,
I'd be sick of hearing about that because he'd rather
be playing in mid to late January than hearing about
how many winning more than five hundred seasons that they've had.
Speaker 6 (09:31):
So I think he wants to get over the hump.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
And we're not trying to offend Mason Rudolph here, But
to your point, the weapons that they have offensively and
what Arthur Smith, I assume wants to try to do
with as a coordinator, that ain't it When it comes
to the quarterback?
Speaker 6 (09:44):
What do you know from the Arthur Smith offensive coordinator.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
Experience, Like what would be if not Rogers an ideal
look at a quarterback with maybe the way that offense
wants to be run because naturally we go Steelers, we
go run game, But what do you want.
Speaker 6 (09:56):
To do at quarterback?
Speaker 9 (09:57):
I think it's somebody who's just dramatic command of it,
and I think it's a vet to your point, is
it Kirk Cousins. There's somebody out there that they either
trade for or they navigate And the thing that's interesting
is that it probably isn't going to happen on draft weekend,
Like they're not going to make a trade for a quarterback.
Like coming out of that interview, I read like Steelers
are gonna be patient.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
They're like, hey, we get it. We respect you. I mean,
you know Mike Tomlin as well as anybody.
Speaker 9 (10:16):
Fell was like, he's as respected of a coach in
sports as there is. So for Aaron to say what
he said of Hey, they know where I'm at.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
I know where I'm at, and everybody's cool with it.
Like to me, I just say, what a cool environment.
Speaker 9 (10:29):
We talked about a little b yesterday, Like the coach's
job is a creator. Environment could be the best version
of yourself within the confines of the franchise. He They've
done that forever at the Steelers forever. I mean I
used to walk into the South Side facility a pit
every day and it was that way twenty years ago,
and it's that way now, same deal there for that franchise.
So I think they just sit back. And that's why
I lean like I think he's a play I mean,
he's gonna end up there with the Steelers and he'll
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be perfect in maxist.
Speaker 4 (10:52):
Well, like you mentioned, Jamie, like he cares about how
it looks so clearly in the situation with the Jets,
he felt completely disrespected and now he wants to be
in a situation where he's respected. Like for me later
in my career, it was more so about like where
can I go?
Speaker 5 (11:06):
Who's going to value me?
Speaker 4 (11:07):
Because the last four years of my career I'm signing
one year deal, So it is about who you know.
You do have a relationship with the GM, with the coordinator,
with the head coach, whoever. It is so right now
and like you mentioned with Tomlin, he totally gets it.
He's respectful of his time, and I think right now
how it looks for Aaron like that is the place
where he feels most validated and where I think he's
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going to end up.
Speaker 6 (11:29):
All right.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
That is the Pittsburgh Steelers, as we'll mention, their schedule
is juicy next season and the marketability is off the
charts when it comes to Dublin and teams that they
have to play. Who their quarterback remains to be seen.
Maybe it's a guy that they take during the draft.
We got draft prospects coming on the show this week,
and we continue running down our list as we are
six days away from the draft in Green Bay. Look
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at that guy, big Man Davis in Ohio say, defensive.
Speaker 6 (11:53):
Tackle ty Lee Williams coming on the show.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
Yogi was just at their spring practice last week. He
knows a thing or two about the Buckeyes program and
the kind of product they put into the NFL.
Speaker 6 (12:03):
But first, you've.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
Heard the names like Cam Moore, Shadoor Sanders, Jackson Dart.
Speaker 6 (12:07):
You'll hear from him on the show today. Actually, there's
a lot.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
Of quarterbacks that you know of who are some under
the radar guys that we need to keep an eye
on that could make an impact at the next level.
Speaker 6 (12:17):
You'll get Roth quarterbacks sleep first.
Speaker 5 (12:19):
That's next.
Speaker 6 (12:29):
Good football, Tennessee Titans.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
You're on the clock, and a lot of people think
you're gonna hear Miami's cam Ward as the number one
overall pick next Thursday in Green Bay, with Shadoor Sanders
likely being the next quarterback off the board. After that, however,
the list keeps going, the names keep rolling, and the
rounds in the NFL Draft continue on well into Saturday.
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You'll get Rop this with us, and he's got a
list of other quarterbacks to keep an eye on as
potential sleepers.
Speaker 6 (12:58):
Is that the word we're gonna go with?
Speaker 9 (12:59):
Yeah, I think so, because to your point, like every
dialogue is around Cam shadorm Now it's a little Jackson Dart, right,
Maybe it's a little Jaln Milroe, even you look at
Kyle McCord, like, people have talked about these guys enough,
so it's kind to think about the quarterback position. I'm like,
all right, let's try to dive into some guys that
aren't getting a lot of love. And when I look
at these five quarterbacks I want to talk about they
all have a few things in common. One is they've
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all gone through something. They all have some scars in
that position. I think you need to have that. They
also have flaws, but most importantly at this craft, I
think you have to have unique traits. So these five
quarterbacks I think all have unique traits. Let's talk about
a guy who we talked a little bit about yesterday
and Tyler Shuck. Now I debated he and Jylen Milroy
think Jaylyn Millrow is getting a little bit more play
than Tyler. So let's talk about Tyler Shuck. To me,
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he's going to be twenty six years old as a rookie.
Let's just start with that. So he's got dramatic experience.
He's been at three schools, go back to twenty twenty.
He was at Oregon in the COVID season, let him
do a PAC twelve title, goes to Texas Tech, gets injured,
most importantly, gets two degrees during his time at Oregon
and a Texas Tech, and then he finishes up at Louisville.
So what are his unique traits? He's got what he
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has coined a fight mentality.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
Okay, what does that mean?
Speaker 5 (14:06):
Well?
Speaker 9 (14:07):
I met him at the Elleital eleven think American idol
for high.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
School quarterback, and we asked.
Speaker 9 (14:11):
These guys to write an essay about how they've navigated adversity.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
So I'm going to read a portion of it.
Speaker 9 (14:15):
At seventeen years old, he talked about his commitment to
fighting and overcoming adversity started when he was seven years old.
My mother was diagnosed with stage four breast cancer, almost
passed away three times. A few months later, in that
same year, my older brother passes away.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Thus, the fighters.
Speaker 9 (14:32):
Mentality exemplifies who I am, because I'm a true reflection
of my mom. So I just look at him and
you watch him play, you watch tight games, you talk those.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
Teammates, anybody wh's been around him.
Speaker 9 (14:41):
He's got such a unique ability to just not flinch.
And I think that is a powerful, unique trait for
Tyler Schuck. I know you coached against them last year
when you were at Boston College. I am such a
fan of him. He's a vet, he's been around, he's
married now, but most importantly, he's got that mentality. I
think you guys know this as well as anybody. You
need that in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
So yeah, i'd like my dB getting fried right now.
A little frustrated.
Speaker 4 (15:03):
There scotten against him. He was the most complete quarterback
we play against last year, just as maturity, his adversity,
what he's been through has never quit mentality, and he
really truly completed that offense.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
Loubu So last time I wrote an essay was quite
some time ago. But we don't have any like academic
violations of you just quoting an essay that this kid.
Speaker 6 (15:24):
Wrote like years ago in a Lead eleven Like I.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
Would be sweating bullets if someone who's.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
He took a couple of lines.
Speaker 6 (15:29):
It was excellent, it was beautiful.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
But that's amazing that you kept a hold of that,
and the fact that he's writing that eloquently about his
life at that time.
Speaker 9 (15:37):
Well, a lead life has been around for now twenty
seven years, and for the last eighteen of them. We've
asked guys that question, which is everything they ask at
the Senior Bowl, everything they ask in the draft. Tell
us through a moment when you went through diversity, and
we asked him, how have you fallen in love with football?
Because I think there's a difference here, like do you
love what football does for you ig followers, brand, deals,
et cetera.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
Or do you love what you can do for the game.
Speaker 9 (15:57):
So the remaining four quarterbacks I believe fall into the
second character as well.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
So let's move on to quarterback number two.
Speaker 5 (16:03):
Quin you were sleeper?
Speaker 2 (16:04):
What do you mean sleeper?
Speaker 9 (16:05):
This was the biggest recruit in the history of the world,
and I agree with that.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
He made a throw back in the day he went viral.
Speaker 9 (16:10):
Everybody called him Pat Mahomes seventeen years old, remember the mullet, right,
and all of a sudden, all the expectations are on
and literally was told he was the perfect quarterback by
all of the ranking services.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
We all know there's no such thing as a perfect anything.
He had to navigate that.
Speaker 9 (16:25):
Then, in the state of Texas, nil wasn't allowed at
the time when he was in high school, so he
left high school early, goes to the Ohio State University
to make some nil deals. Also played for Ryan Day. Well,
there's a guy named CJ. Stroud there, so he transfers
to where you see now in Texas.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
So what are his unique traits?
Speaker 9 (16:43):
Letter to back to back college football playoff appearances?
Speaker 2 (16:46):
Number one, Number two, He's a gamer. He never flinches.
Speaker 9 (16:50):
Go to fourth and thirteen against Arizona State and the
collegeurable playoff game on the line and overtime rips the
seamball to send his team to the semi finals.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
I'm an absolute fan of him.
Speaker 9 (16:59):
I think he has what it takes and he played
in pro style offenses.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
Steve Sarkisian coach in the NFL. Here's the play I'm
talking about. I think this is the.
Speaker 9 (17:06):
Best throw last year in all of college football when
you put context into it, the situation, the pressure, the moment.
Everything in the Texas is they were in the semi
finals the year before. I feel a little bit of
heat from killing Kenny Dillingham squad at Arizona State, and
away he goes ripshot and they're on their way to
the semi finals and really a player two away from
potentially beating Ohio State.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
Then there's a lot to be said too, for this
kind of goes back to the to a Jalen thing
that happened at Alabama. There was a lot of heat
on Quinn and arch Manning and like what was that dynamic?
Like they must hate each other and Star coached them
up to a point where they did not. And the
fact that Quinn has emerged from that situation kind of
a mature quarterback.
Speaker 6 (17:43):
It seems like he can handle a lot of situations.
Speaker 9 (17:45):
And that's what it's going to be like in the
room as we all know. I mean, it's not just
here's the keys and go. It's the most competitive position
of all of sports, an absolute shark tank.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
There's not a lot of oxygen.
Speaker 9 (17:55):
He dealt with that already at Ohio State and then
dealt with it at.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
Texas as you just reference.
Speaker 9 (18:00):
All right, let's go to number three and I'm going
to the defending national champs, Will Howard.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
And not only.
Speaker 9 (18:06):
Can he probably SHOCKGNN Beer better than anybody who's still
him and grooded, but I'm a big fan of him.
So what are his unique traits? Well, again, started at
Kansas State, had to navigate being a dual threat quarterback there.
Then he goes to the Ohio State University. He seeing
at k State Spinninati. He was a true dual threat
there for Chris Cleman, and then on his way to
Ohio State.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
What I love is that it wasn't easy and a quarterback.
Speaker 9 (18:28):
So often I think that we think of these guys
with all the experience they have to go to a
new system and how come he's not spinning it in
week two?
Speaker 2 (18:35):
Well, because he's got to learn.
Speaker 9 (18:36):
He played for Chip Kelly, who oh, by the way,
is with the Las Vegas Raiders right now, was the
offensive coordinator, and this guy again navigated challenging times. He's
from Pennsylvania, went to penn State middle of the season
and threw a pick six in the first drive.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Didn't flinch, and then in the College Football Playoff, there.
Speaker 9 (18:50):
Was nobody that played better, nobody played better at quarterback
in the country than Will Howard of the course of
that month, completing seventy five percent of his passes. Look
at the Notre Dame game, he starts thirteen of thirteen
and truly became a monster in the playoff and a
true dual threat. I think that is his unique trait
and he's got command they lose to Michigan and the
world is falling on him, and what do they do.
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They have a team meeting. We'll talk to Tyler Williams
about it later on in the show. And they didn't flinch,
and he was the guy having to bear the brun
of that. I mean it's Ryan Day, the quarterback, and
the governor. I mean in that order. It's kind of
like your time in the SEC in the State of Alabama.
Same deal there. So that is will Howard.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
He'says for me at number thie keen, all right, number four,
all right, number four, Dylan Gabriel.
Speaker 9 (19:31):
My favorite play was when he was playing for your
Sooners against Texas in the red zone. All of a sudden,
it's tight. He makes a huge play in that rivalry game.
But overall he's so experienced, sixty three starts in his career,
the most.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
In the history of college football. The biggest thing for
me his unique traits.
Speaker 9 (19:45):
I think quarterbacks have to have some clarity around the
things that matter most. What matters most, he knows it's
playing for him. He's confident, and all of his attributes
and his actions have a disciplined element to it. So
when he walks into a facility. He's going to feel
like a veteran in there, and not just because of
his age, just comes of the starts, because all the
things that he has navigated and on through and then
I think he's got pinpoint.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
Actually, I think he can spin it.
Speaker 9 (20:08):
He really worked on his arm strength from last year
or two now, thought about going out a year ago.
The draft did not give him the grade he wanted to,
so he went back to work. I love that humility
for him, and I think he's going to really put
himself in a great position as one of those backups,
make a little bit noise in traning camp and be
in a perfect position if something falters, to take a
run at being a starter.
Speaker 6 (20:26):
And he's efficient. He had the minivan in college. He
drives his teammates around the wide receiver.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
So if we love a guy that's into efficiency, it's perfect.
Speaker 9 (20:33):
Love a good minivan. I love a minivan right now.
All right, all right, let's go number five. This is
somebody who probably hasn't gotten any real play, but this
is Max brosemer Adam Minnesota. Yes, row the boat. Indeed,
he was a Walter Payton finalist, which was like the
Heisman of one double a football FCS football. He transfers
into Minnesota true pro style scheme under PJ. Fleck and
Greg Harbow, and what he did there was fascinating.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Off talking shoulders and above.
Speaker 9 (20:56):
He's carrying three plays every snap of the line of scrimmage.
They called him an eleventh coach. He's in the facility
all Sunday, all money at five am to ten pm.
He'd come back to the facility to script plays, understand coveragers,
understand concepts.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
He's really one of those unique players.
Speaker 9 (21:11):
And in college football, you don't see a lot of
guys playing under center. At times, he's playing under center.
He's got to turn his back to a defense. He's
thrived in big moments. How about that the big touch push.
How a bit of a play was That was my
favorite one of the year. Talking unique toush pushes in
the entire country.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
Shot out to his o C. Greg Harbo.
Speaker 9 (21:28):
But overall, I think that he's got a unique traits
him of what he went for.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
He was a two star recruity.
Speaker 9 (21:34):
He was ranked two hundred and fifty fifth in the
class of twenty nineteen, same class as Boonix and Jade Daniels.
So think about that's for a second. He was ranked
the two hundred and fifty fifth prospect at his position,
and in less than a week he's gonna find himself
on an NFL team. Like, you just have to have
something special to you to be able to go through that.
You have to have a belief in yourself, and I
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think all five of these quarterbacks have that.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
So I don't know if any of them are.
Speaker 9 (21:59):
Gonna None of them are going to be Day one
starters in the NFL, but will they get a shot?
Will they be Joshua Dobbs, who's going on his ninth
season in the NFL right now, Like, for sure, I
would throw down on all of these guys if I
was a team looking for a backup quarterback, somebody that
can fit the room and if we needed them could
elevate in the moment.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
I was stressed yesterday, Yogi, when you were describing this
year's quarterback class is like the backup class. But now
I find it to be a compliment. You fully sold
me on these guys because the quarterback list it is deep.
It's a great list that you just put out for us.
I do have a question known it has to do
with Brosmer. You can show the list that you just did.
You say Brosmer is in this same recruiting class from
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twenty nineteen as Bo Nix and Jane Daniels.
Speaker 6 (22:39):
Now we've just seen those guys go through those rookie years.
How much college football are these guys playing.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
Oh my gosh, they're so experienced when they get to
the NFL.
Speaker 6 (22:47):
And those are two excellent rookies from last year.
Speaker 9 (22:49):
Yeah, I know, you're exactly right. I think the COVID
element to this, and we're in this unique window at
the position where I think it's the most development time,
a time in college football where quarterbacks have been the
most developed. I just think they've seen so much. When
you come last year's raft to this year's draft, there's
some similarities when you look at their ages entering the
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draft and games started. There's actually some advantages for this
year's class. Look at that Dylan sixty three, Bo Nick
sixty one. That was the record that he beat, And
I just think there's something for NFL people that I've
talked to. They want to see snaps, they want to
see playing, especially when you look at these guys on
the left.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
The first four sec big ten.
Speaker 9 (23:29):
And we talk to anybody in the league college Football realignment.
They enjoy that element because every weekend they're seeing how
do you navigate an elite edge rusher coming out of Michigan,
out of Ohio State, if you're Dylan Gabriel, how do
you navigate for quinn ewers in the SEC some of
those monsters coming off the edge now every single weekend.
And I think that it's a unique element that these
franchise GMS coaches, quarterback coaches, they're enthralled with because my
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guy has played. I'm not having to teach them how
to read a defense, how to game plan, all the
selfless elements that it takes to thrive at that craft.
So fan of those guys, those are my five sleepers.
There's many more, but those are the fact we roll with.
Speaker 6 (24:08):
It's a great list. Thank you for beings to the table.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
Miami quarterback cam Ward widely expected to be the first
name called on Thursday when the twenty twenty five NFL
Draft gets underway. In this edition of First Draft, we
hear what draft night will mean to him and the
support that he has received from his parents along the journey.
Speaker 8 (24:30):
Wards always got them ready throws, they delivered a strike.
Speaker 10 (24:34):
Mustage plays a gun slinger, always have been, always will be.
Speaker 9 (24:38):
Ward with an incredible poy.
Speaker 10 (24:41):
You throw from different our English, you learn from the pocket,
you make it too.
Speaker 5 (24:44):
It makes better touchdown cam Ward.
Speaker 10 (24:47):
And I just think the word that I put in
just showcases everything diving.
Speaker 6 (24:51):
That is how cam Ward does it.
Speaker 10 (24:53):
It's a hard football journey being a zero star crew.
Who is talking to it and I'll give.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
Them cam Ward's having himself.
Speaker 10 (24:59):
A day cam Wood quarterback, University of Miami. Growing up
that was, you know, raised the right way. My parents
They've always supported me and everything that I do. They
never missed a game in all my life, especially when
I got to college and fly to pretty much every
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game once I transferred out of state, whether it was
in Washington ten hour days having to get to my
home to come and stay with me before the game
and then Miami getting on two hour flights, or whether
we playing in the West Coast or on the East coast,
doing everything they need to get to my games. They
will always continue to support me, and I'm forever grateful.
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I don't playing on stopping. I got a lot more
that you know, I want to accomplish. It in my
football life. Put my head down every day and keep working.
Draft night is going to mean the world to me
because it's been what I've been looking forward to since
I was six years old. All my hard work than
myself and my family put into you know, with cher
set bonus forever.
Speaker 6 (26:10):
A lot of layers to that young man.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
But cam Ward expected to be one of the first,
if not the first quarterback off the board in the
draft next week. Will you had to watch him painfully
at Miami, I would assume in the a sec No, we.
Speaker 4 (26:22):
Did not see him this year, think oh okay, good, but.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
You had to appreciate what he brought to the table.
Speaker 6 (26:26):
What makes him special.
Speaker 4 (26:28):
I just love his aggressive style of quarterback. He mentioned
that he's a gunslinger, but he's also a gunslinger who
does not throw many interceptions. He hasn't thrown double digit
interceptions since twenty twenty one. I know we talked about
him the show, but I played with a quarterback like
that and Aaron Rodgers who was a gunslinger, but he
also protected the football. So whoever gets him, they're going
to get a player who obviously is aggressive throwing the football,
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makes smart decisions and that's a style of quarterback.
Speaker 6 (26:52):
I like to leave my offense, Johnny, what you got
on cam Ward?
Speaker 8 (26:56):
I really like cam Ard Man. He is a baller, playmaker.
As you can see, they're just improvising in the pockets,
moving around, precision with the ball, putting the ball in
the right place. Like there's no way this dude does
not get picked number one.
Speaker 11 (27:10):
Overall.
Speaker 8 (27:11):
I see him as in that tiny uniform right now,
I can envision it. This dude is he's got the impactor.
He's got it.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
I could not agree more. Zero offers.
Speaker 9 (27:23):
Coming out of high school, Dad Calvin Colin D three
schools say, will you take a look at my kid?
Finds his way to incarnate Ward balls out there, hits
the portal, could go anywhere. Follows Eric Morris to Washington State,
who was his head coach at the time, then the
offensive coordinator.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
Then Eric Morse leaves.
Speaker 9 (27:38):
He could have left again, he said, no, I'm going
to stay and learn from Ben Rbuckle who's now your
sooner offensive coordinator, and then finds his way, of course
with Maria Crista ball in Miami to finish his career
and thankfully not to play the defense that Blackman was advising.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
But to that point, where is he unique?
Speaker 9 (27:54):
I think that's cliche, but he embodies like the.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
Bee where your feet are. I've been around him a bunch,
like he is in the moment.
Speaker 9 (28:01):
I thought this quarterback coach yesterday, Daryl Colbert, and he's
like he's just connect to the moment. He's not worried
about the draft and the shiny things that come with that,
Like he just wants to go play. He's always just
wanted to go compete. And I hit his dad up
and I was like, whatever you did, can you teach.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
All of us parents, Like how you navigated the humility
from him? Skill set? You guys both nailed at him.
He can do a little bit of everything.
Speaker 9 (28:23):
And then I think, finally, like his discernment at quarterback
has grown, and you watch his tape over the years,
and then I think he's just grown as a player.
His mechanics, I really believe, like the limiting factor in
reaching her potentials.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
Blog mechanics at quarterbacks.
Speaker 9 (28:34):
He goes slotted times early on in his career, his
speed cleaned up, his timing, his feet are tied to
his eyes, and you watch him play, whether it's in
a mudded pocket or where they hear versus you know,
no defense and shorts and a T shirt. I love
that for him, and that's why I think he'll go
to the NFL and be able to have early success
experience really the mentality of who he's.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
Been and what he's been through.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
And the Titans, if he does go to Tennessee, they've
been skidding their wheels and just trying to get competent
quarterback play that works within the system and the market.
And if this takes I mean, the division that the
Titans playing is ripe for the taking. The Texans have reemerged,
but that's only been in the last last two years.
If they can take over Jacksonville, if they can take
over the Colts, I almost thought you were Nick Cross
for a second. I didn't want to insult you, but
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I don't care about insulting. If Nick Cross isn't at
the table, if the Titans could figure this thing out
with cam Ward, then it could be a match made
in heaven for several years to come, especially considering a
Brian Calla hinted with Joe Burrow when he got to
the NFL.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
He's going to be a pro.
Speaker 6 (29:27):
He's gonna be up.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
Bro it's like one already.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
There's a lot of guys that that's going to happen
for about half a dozen nights from now. It's Night
one of the twenty twenty five NFL Draft, presented by
Bud Like. You can see all seven rounds over three
days on NFL Network and you can stream it on
NFL plus seven rounds three days.
Speaker 6 (29:45):
You got it locked in. Everybody coming up, Buck.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
Eye Country, Wake up. We had Alabama yesterday. It's your
day today, Ohio State. We've got one of your own
joining GMFB. Ohio State defensive tackle hi Lee Williams coming on.
Speaker 6 (29:56):
Talk about his nickname, life as a.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
Cated dad and a meeting that changed Ohio States for
Jack after that lost to Michigan last year.
Speaker 6 (30:06):
GMFBT next with an Ohio State buck guy.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
Good morn football.
Speaker 3 (30:21):
We're back on GMFB and our next guest is a
raining NCAA champion and a defensive lineman who you will
need to know before he makes his mark in the
NFL next season.
Speaker 6 (30:31):
Please welcome from the Ohio State University, Tyler william Kylee.
Good morning to you. Happy to get to know you man.
Speaker 3 (30:39):
Ahead of next week and ahead of next season. The
official draft countdown has hit six days from now. All right,
first rounds Thursday, and then so on and so forth.
How has this been for you? Navigating the complex, busy
and draining pre draft process And when you look at
the whole thing, what's the best case scenario for you
when you look at the entire weekend?
Speaker 12 (31:00):
H Yeah, So for me, basically, I've been just trying
to go to process. You know, lot of meetings, a
lot of you know, thirty visits, and you know a
lot of coaches, you speak to, a lot of traveling.
But you know it's gonna enjoy it only happens once,
So I'm just taking it all in, you know, me
and everybody, and it's been.
Speaker 5 (31:15):
A great time.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
Tellleague, we'll blackman here. You've seem very chill and low key.
Speaker 4 (31:20):
However, this year at the combine, you describe yourself as
a disruptor. Can you explain to us what you mean
by that?
Speaker 5 (31:26):
Yeah?
Speaker 12 (31:26):
When I say disruptor, I basically just mean you know,
I'm gonna cause havoc and I'm.
Speaker 5 (31:30):
Gonna show up every play, every game.
Speaker 12 (31:32):
And you know you're gonna have to account for me
at all times because I will, you know, record offense,
you know if I'm not so really just being dominant
and just showing up in the big games is basically
what I mean when I.
Speaker 8 (31:43):
Say that, Yo te league's tej here you you and
your teammates. For you guys really got after Notre Dame
in that championship game. Take us through like what was
that whole day like leading up to the game and
then like ending your career as a champion, Like how
did that feel?
Speaker 5 (31:57):
Yeah?
Speaker 12 (31:57):
So that game is like a night game, so you
know it's a long build up, but you know we
were prepared, We practiced hard, you know, study well, we
knew like what kind office they were, what kind of
team they were, and you know, we just went in
and attacked and you know, just played bucket football. We're
at our best. You know, I don't think there's any
team that can beat us. So just's just a lot
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of emotions and then winning that game, man, everything that's
basically our first you know, real championship there. So ending
it like that for my senior season and all the
seniors you know that came back for that reason.
Speaker 5 (32:31):
You know, just a great feeling. It was nothing better.
Speaker 3 (32:33):
And you've got a couple of nice successories to go
along with it. I mean, yeah, I have we have
to see the rings that we're going to talk about
getting the ring, so.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
We just.
Speaker 5 (32:44):
What I mean, yeah, wow, you know rings them?
Speaker 9 (32:50):
Oh yeah, put them on, they pop up. I mean,
they're really they talk to you.
Speaker 6 (32:56):
It seems like they have a lot of skills. What's
your favorite one?
Speaker 4 (32:59):
Oh, I mean that's that's the benefit of staying at
one school and putting it work the whole time.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
That's the last year.
Speaker 12 (33:10):
We don't want to open and it basically Texas, Oregon,
Tennessee and then Notre Dame and then Natty.
Speaker 6 (33:16):
You can see, yeah we can Wow, that's really cool.
Speaker 5 (33:20):
Yeah, it's pretty dope. Definitely for sure.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
I agreed.
Speaker 9 (33:24):
So I was calling the spring game a week ago
and you were there. All your teammates from last year's
team were there. That's where you got those amazing rings.
I'm curious for you when you look back on this
past season it was deemed Natty or bust and then
you challenge yourselves. I'm sure after that lost to Michigan
to respond the players only meeting and then you went
on the run.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
That got you that hardware. What did you learn from
what you.
Speaker 9 (33:47):
Went through in a season that had so many expectations.
Speaker 12 (33:50):
Yeah, so definitely for us, our message during that run
was basically, the issues are always there, so address them
and you know, get them, get them fixed. So that's
what basically that player meeting was not going to go
on too many details about it, but just know it
was a you know, our thirty two hour meeting, just
the guys in coach Day. You know, we just spilling
our hearts out because you know we still had a
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chance to you know, go win it.
Speaker 5 (34:12):
Definitely leaving and losing the team up north is you know,
no idea. You never want that to happen, you know,
your rival.
Speaker 12 (34:17):
But we knew we still had a season ahead of us,
and you know, we just ironed out those issues and
it just took off that Tennessee game, you know, we
came off firing and kind of kept that momentum throughout
the playoffs to the Natty.
Speaker 4 (34:29):
Speaking of coach Ryan Day, who was my GA way
back at Boston College, you played under him your entire
career at Hio State. So a head of the pro day,
he wrote words about you on social media, words like violent,
fast twitch, a motor that would carry you in the
NFL for a long time. Can you describe your relationship
with coach Day and how he has helped you prepare
for the next level.
Speaker 12 (34:50):
Yeah, my relationship with coach Daves, you know, that's just
that's he's a player's touch. So I love that guy
to death. Man, he brought me in. You know, a
kid came in overweight. You know, he basically stood by
my side while you know, I grew and developed into
you know who I am today. You know, fast, the violent,
the twitchy player. You know, that's all to my coaches.
I just came in as an athletic kid and learned
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everything from him. Coach Jay, coach you knows, you know,
just all the coaches there, just we all had great relationships.
Speaker 5 (35:17):
It was a brotherhood. So you can't can't break your brotherhood, tyl.
Speaker 3 (35:20):
Like, it's so cool to get to know you this morning.
You stand at six foot three three and twenty seven pounds,
and if anybody asked, you are one of the toughest
guys to go against on the field. However, it doesn't
mean you don't have a soft spot for two sweet
little companions that you have in your life.
Speaker 6 (35:34):
Mango and s'more. Get in here.
Speaker 3 (35:36):
Can we see the cats right there next to the right.
Speaker 6 (35:42):
He's a lover.
Speaker 11 (35:44):
Me.
Speaker 5 (35:45):
I mean, here's some more o.
Speaker 6 (35:47):
The name of my gosh.
Speaker 5 (35:50):
He got these he got these wide eyes. It looks
like it looks like.
Speaker 6 (35:54):
That's what you make offensive lineman.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
Look like that makes sense.
Speaker 6 (35:58):
Oh, there's the other one.
Speaker 5 (35:59):
Mango is in the corner. I don't know if you
want to come over here in the corner.
Speaker 6 (36:03):
How long if you had when when did you call
a cat person?
Speaker 5 (36:06):
Yeah? So my freshman year, my roommates is then in
Donovan Jackson.
Speaker 12 (36:10):
Basically we had two cats and it kind of grew
on me, and as soon as I moved out, I decided.
Speaker 5 (36:14):
To get some more. And then last year, on my birthday,
my girlfriend got Mengo. So it's kind of just, you know,
one big family. Yeah, that's awesome that. I'm a big
cat guy myself.
Speaker 3 (36:25):
If you run up against Tyler Booker next year, by
any chance, Tyler who is will be a rookie offensive lineman.
Speaker 6 (36:31):
He's got turtles.
Speaker 3 (36:32):
So you guys can have a good pros about the
pets that you had while you were in college.
Speaker 6 (36:37):
Right right, I met him.
Speaker 5 (36:38):
I'm heading in Florida, it's a cool guy.
Speaker 8 (36:40):
There you go, and we all know the journey to
the NFL is tough, bro, So like, yeah, who who
like during this process have you like really leaned on
Like who if you like ask questions for about and
like how to get through this process.
Speaker 12 (36:54):
I would say all the coaches at Ohio State basically
put together a plan for us to talk to you know,
former NFL guys God still in the NFL, you know
Jason for advice. I really just wanted to be a
sponge talk to all these people learning because you know,
they've been through it before, they've seen what it's like,
and just try to take that knowledge and you know,
build it to get like better as soon as you
get there. It was definitely different than college, so got
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to get ready for it. And these guys have been
through it, so you know, why not listen to them.
Speaker 3 (37:19):
Tyler Williams, You're an absolute force to be reckoned with.
Speaker 6 (37:21):
In the NFL. Good luck, stay healthy.
Speaker 3 (37:23):
We appreciate you coming on GMFB and congratulations on all
the success that you've had, but we know that more
will come your way.
Speaker 5 (37:29):
Appreciate pad.
Speaker 3 (37:31):
For the first time in NFL history, a team will
take their draft Operations to a fire station when the
Rams draft from the LA Fire Department Air Operations with
support from Zillo, the RAMS and LAFD will convert a
room within LAFD AIR Operations to serve as general manager,
Less Need and head coach Sean mcbay's draft headquarters, as
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well as an adjacent hangar to serve as space for coaches, scouts,
and team personnel. So when you see the shot of
the Rams deciding no, it is an homage to LAFD.
LAFD Air Operations will be fully optional during the NFL Draft.
That is a very efficient unit. That is incredible.
Speaker 6 (38:09):
Well done. Rams.
Speaker 3 (38:11):
It's time now to take a sneak peek at our
new content series where Brock Perty and Daniel Jeremiah, the
pair you did not know you need, but here it is,
break down game film and talk about this year's NFL
Draft prospects, all with the help of Toyota. Be sure
to check out going Places presented by Toyota on DJ's
social media account.
Speaker 6 (38:28):
Move the Sticks.
Speaker 11 (38:29):
Obviously, the expectations that he's had, you know, throughout his
college career, and then taking Colorado.
Speaker 2 (38:35):
To new heights like that.
Speaker 5 (38:36):
You know that's not easy.
Speaker 11 (38:37):
The knock is a little bit of the arm strength
and then you know, holding the ball took a lot
of sacks with my experience of playing, Like if I
can show my guys you know that I can get
hit and then keep going, that just shows a lot
about you know, your leadership and just being able to
learn to get the ball out, play within the timing
of the offense and concepts. I think those are things
that he has and will continue.
Speaker 5 (38:57):
To learn and develop, no doubt.
Speaker 3 (39:01):
All right, check that stuff out. I'll move the sticks.
And as we prepare for the NFL Draft, we are
constantly watching footage back of great college football games from
last year. But there is an absolute legend in college
football that made a big time announcement yesterday when Lee
Corso has decided to call it a career. At longtime
ESPN broadcaster has spent nearly forty years on the set
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of College Game Day, entertaining US, enlightening us, educating us,
and Week one of the twenty twenty five college football
season will be the final time you.
Speaker 6 (39:31):
Will hear from Lee Corso.
Speaker 3 (39:33):
But also you will see that famous moment every single
week where he gets to pick the mascot the head
he puts it on, and his colleague Genes Davis was
on an interview with CNN last night where he said,
I will tackle anybody who tries to put on that mascot.
That is Lee Corso's signature moment, and it will go
with him when he decides to retire. So, Lee Corso
somebody who we all know love seeing on game day. Now,
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my overlap with Lee Corso from the college football space is,
you know, there's a lot of competition in TV for eyeballs,
and when you have a great game on any given weekend,
and you're very.
Speaker 6 (40:04):
Possessive of it.
Speaker 3 (40:05):
So the SEC and CBS always had a great game,
at least when I was there game day. Whenever they
decided to show up in the town that we had
the game, that means that the game day guys were
in town and the SEC guys were in town. Lee Corso,
even though their show was done, would stay and jog
from the forty to the forty the entire time.
Speaker 6 (40:23):
On a half, he would pick.
Speaker 3 (40:24):
Alabama's half and there he'd be up and down the
field jogging because he wants to see the line of
scrimmage from this side and that side. And I always
just loved his dedication to the game, because a lot
of those guys boom private jet out of the city. No,
Lee Corso stays and wants to watch the game.
Speaker 9 (40:36):
Not surprised, but that story at all. I met him
in the early two thousands game. They came to pit
where I was playing, and a guy named Michael Fountain
was the producer, said come on check out the set.
And I came and there's Leek Corso just hanging out
and endearing himself to a form of a player, to
the entire staff, to of course the people that are
on air. But you just saw, like what we see
on air, what we fall in love with, was reality everywhere.
Speaker 2 (40:55):
He's been that way for over forty years.
Speaker 9 (40:57):
I love that he's being showered with so much praise
right now in his career.
Speaker 5 (41:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (41:01):
I just loved the big moments, you know, like this
such a you know, sports talk show. But I'm waiting
for the reveal. And I had the pleasure of him
coming to one of our games. I believe we were
playing Florida State my senior year at Boston College and
just waiting for that. He did not pick us, okay,
but we had a chance, so I remember those.
Speaker 3 (41:18):
Days, not only like the visual of when it actually
happens on game day when he picks the mascothead, but
the still images of everyone like it's like the best.
Speaker 2 (41:28):
It's absolute best.
Speaker 6 (41:32):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 3 (41:33):
I love that Lee Corso and everything that ESPN has
done for college gave day and made it an absolute
institution and sensation. And one more game for Lee Corso
next season, twenty twenty five college football season.
Speaker 6 (41:44):
We love you, Lee Corso.