August 8, 2025 • 31 mins
Hour Two of the Good Morning Football Podcast begins with hosts Jamie Erdahl, Kyle Brandt, Manti Te’o and Will Blackmon examining what they expect from Shedeur Sanders in his first preseason start. BIG DEAL or NO BIG DEAL - Jaxson Dart talking with Josh Allen? Is Baker Mayfield the biggest bro? THIS WAS A DUDE - Robert Edwards.
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
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Speaker 2 (00:11):
This is one of those fridays where we have to
really stay on task. Okay, there were three games last night.
There's a bunch of them this weekend. We have to
focus on the topics at hand. Good Morning Football, everybody.
Like I said on a Friday live in LA and
New York, Jamiard Oldmantaiso, Kyle Brant, Will Blackman, Kyle, you
got another one.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Of your This was a dude's today.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Who's our dude today?
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Oh yeah, we look back on some of these guys
that you may have forgotten about from twenty twenty five
years ago. This guy is a story of a horrific
injury and incredible comeback and an all time great player
with an infamous moment that.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
NFL fans know about. But guys, you want infamy.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
We have pre season football, and we have a very
very very well known fifth round pick rookie who will
be starting tonight. You better believe we're going to talk
about it's good Morning football on a Friday.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Let's light this candle.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
That's right, it's good Morning football.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
Everybody.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Welcome inside. Will Kyle Manti Jamie Kyle, it's beginning that
time of the year where it's like beautiful chaos on
the table. I got papers, we got highlights, we got
all that. We got to watch a lot of papers.
This is like my break glass paper situation.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Kyle.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
I've been trying to coach up Mansion on how to
read a highlight because this is what we're gonna do
on GMAPO next week. Manti, you're gonna start practicing. Got
any quick tips from the pro on how to read
a professional highlight for a football game?
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Yeah? Take this, throw it and just talk about what
you see. Just just go. Don't worry about all these
little notes and thinks. You just be you, buddy, be you? Okay,
all right, Well, then.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Show us how it's done, Kyle, take it away last night.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
What do we go with? Well, now, I'm just gonna
fall on my face. Get there, all right, Jalen Hurts.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
Will not be falling on his face because he's standing
on the sideline.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
What does he happen there with those sour skittles? What
were that? Looks like a green package? Joe Burrow, Jamar.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Chase inexplicably on the field, I say inexplicably it's just
I don't mean that. I mean it's just shocking to
actually see them play in real football. Jamar Chase played
a lot of real football, at least it felt that way.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
It was fifteen snaps.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
But I feel like he had one hundred catches last
night on the Eagles. Obviously, the full chemistry, the full firepower.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
You got Tee Higgins out there too, you got other starters,
but we.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Just cut it up nice and clean and Burrow Chase.
It's like a demo reel that they're putting together based
on these poor Eagles. If you had Bengals and preseason
survivor unfortunately they lost the game and you're out with
the Eagles one.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
Yeah, they did. Listen.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Pete Carroll was in Seattle for fourteen years. So after
this game last night between the Raiders and the Seahawks,
the coach said sometimes he looked up at the scoreboard
thinking nice, nice play by a Seahawks player. He's like, no,
I coach the Raiders, Now, yeah you do. George o'lani
bounces back to the left side for a twenty four
yard touchdown, but watch on his get up, don't fall
into the photographer celebration. That's not just howy ultimate ographer.
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Everybody that is Marshawn Lynch speaking of the sawerskittle that
Jalen Hurts may or may not have been eating. I
bet he has them in his back pocket. Marshaw Lynch,
everybody with a media credential crouching down probably taking the
most epic rage filled pictures ever because that's how he
ran Kyle.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
You know it.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
And let's see how these Ravens and Colts run. First
of all, in honor to Jim Mersey. They're late owner.
They have the patch, they have Daniel Jones, Anthony Richardson,
and then they only have Daniel Jones because Anthony.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Richards gets rocked. It's a free rush from his right side.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
It's David Ojabo from the Ravens with an eight yard sack.
But Anthony Richardson's pinky does a right angle. It's gross
to look at. We feel bad for him. He would
not play for the rest of the night. Dislocated his
pinky finger on his throwing hand. I mean, it's not
a cataclysmic injury, but it's not great if you're in
a quarterback competition and maybe already in second place in
that competition. In some minds, and the Ravens do what
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they always do, win preseason games. They're incredible dynasty in
that regard twenty four to sixteen final score. If you
care what you don't, Jamie, let's get back to some discussion.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
I love an oxymoron like that. An incredible preseason dynasty. Well,
let's see what happens in the regular season. Though specifically
with this young man. Browns rocky quarterback Shadour Sanders was
the second quarterback off the board for this team. However,
he will get the start tonight as Dylan Gabriel has
been dealing with a bit of an injury throughout training camp.
Browns are playing the Panthers, a game that you can
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see right here on NFL Network. Miles Garrett, household name
in Cleveland and nationally if you're a football fan, was
asked about Shadour Sanders and how he's conducted himself during
training camp.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
It's funny.
Speaker 5 (04:40):
He's optimistic, light hearted, but he works hard. You know,
he takes it seriously his craft, and he's watching what
the others are doing and not doing it his own
way and which only he can. So looking forward to
to see him. Then these preseason games and how he
manages the offense. But I think he he looks good,
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but all the guys look good.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
By Now, what do we expect from Dr Sanders tonight?
Speaker 3 (05:05):
Okay?
Speaker 4 (05:06):
What I do? What do I expect? I expect completions? Okay,
just complete the balls door. I know there was a
lot of talk when he came out of college that
he had a tendency to hold onto the ball and
it got into a lot of trouble. I don't care
where you throw the ball, door, if it's five yards
in front of the line of scrimmage, five yards behind,
just complete the pass like play loose, have fun, and
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just be on pace like that when your backfoot hits
the ground on a three.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
Step drop, throw the ball. Just throw to.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
Somebody in the brown or orange or white jersey and
and make those passes. So that's my expectation for him.
Just don't hold the ball, don't try to be a hero.
Just make completion after completion, and then we'll see where
that leads you in every single drive.
Speaker 6 (05:45):
But is there a more well prepared quarterback for preseason
than shir Door Sanders. You look at in Colorado, right,
they were ranked dead last and rushing right, they had
sixty like sixty five yards per game. You had teams
like the kent State Golden Flashes, the Arizona Zip, the
Western Kentucky Hilltoppers who had more Russian yards than the
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Colorado Buffalo's. Also too, he was the most sacked quarterback
in the entire in all of college football forty two times,
but still was able to throw for four thousand yards,
still have seventy four completion percentage, still have thirty seven
touchdowns and ten picks.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
He was still able to.
Speaker 6 (06:25):
Stand in all that chaos, no protection, no run game,
and still has success. So I'm looking forward to see
what he does because basically he played in a preseason
game all last year.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
Hey, will you cracked me up?
Speaker 7 (06:37):
Man?
Speaker 1 (06:37):
I got to get an Arizona Zips jersey. That sounds
like a hell of a program. I want to donate
to the Arizona Zips. I think it's the Akron Zips.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
But Arizona. Yeah, Acron Zips.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
I think it's the Akron Sun Devil. We messed up
all the time. I actually like the sound of the airs.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
Arizona Zips just flows better.
Speaker 6 (07:00):
Hey, my battle Lebron, I know you Ackron guy you know.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
Yeah, yeah, the kid from Arizona, as he likes to say, yeah,
it's true. Listen, this is I'm looking at the bottom
of the screen and it's a Brown's logo and a
Panther's logo. And in spite of that, I feel like
this is going to be an event tonight, like a real,
real event. It's gonna be something that we look back on,
a football event sort of, but also a media event.
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Your phone, you at home, your phone's going to be
smoking tonight.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
If he plays well.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
Shador, there's going to be a faction of the internet
that will scream about everything from disrespected to collusion. If
Shador has a rough night, another faction will scream I
told you so. Either way, there will be screams, fire
in the hole. I can't wait for this game in
a lot of ways, given the tenor of the media
in twenty twenty five, in the relationship with Shadur, this
is like one of the most high profile preseason games
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in history, Browns at Panthers.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
Watch the media.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
People are going to try to make their careers on
social media based on a week one preseason Browns game.
People might their careers on it two. This is going
to be nuclear. What I would like to see and
what I hope to see. I want you door to
go out and win the job I'm talking about, like
the real job, the starting job. Take a huge step
to do that be undeniable. I promise you. No one
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with the Browns, no one is rooting for Joe Flacco
to be the best quarterback on the team this year,
nor Canny Pickett or any of those guys. The Browns
would love nothing more than the best quarterback on their
roster to be Shador Sanders or Dylan Gabriel, and Gabriel
is hurt.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
So Shadur go play go, play out.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
We have not seen a fifth round rookie quarterback start
Week one of their rookie year, but who cares. We've
seen guys who get passed on over and over show
up as rookies and just have it Dak Prescott, Russell Wilson,
on and on and on, and we didn't know they
had it until they actually take the field. I'd say
to chadur tonight is a football night. It is a
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football night. No fame, no nil, no draft party, no
retire number.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
This is not about prime time. This is in prime time. Tonight.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
You are not a NEPO player or a celebrity athlete.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
You are a cheap Day.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
Three pick rookie who your own team barely believed in
on draft night. Play like that tonight, Play with the chip,
play with the motivation, play great, take a big leap
to actually winning this job.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
That's what I want to see, Kyle.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
I'm gonna press you even further because you describe kind
of the aura around the night. But I also challenge
you to give us like some tactile number you want
to see a half? Do you want to see eight
for nine?
Speaker 3 (09:44):
Not like?
Speaker 2 (09:44):
What do you want to see from him in how
he conducts himself? Because you're right, camera's going to track
him everywhere. People are going to want to see how
he behaves. But what about the real production that would
convince you that he should be the guy?
Speaker 3 (09:55):
I want to see him play a lot.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
I'd love to see him play a whole half because
I like to see response to things. If he throws
a pick, if he strips after something, I want to
see how he plays right after that. I want to
see the next throw. I want to see the next snap.
I want to see all the stuff. We want to see.
I want to see command of the huddle. I want
to see him pointing guys around here, moving guys here.
Does he look the parts? And I want to see
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the arm I want to see the legs. I mean,
I wouldn't like to see entire two quarters three quarters.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
I don't care. By the way, they don't have a
lot of healthy bodies, all right.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
They brought in Snoopuntley and Flacco. I don't know if
he's going to play at all. I doubt he's not
going to come into as a replacement for Shador. The
other guys are hurt, so we may see a ton
of football, and I want to see it all. I
apologize for nothing. I want to see a lot of
Chadour tonight. I think it's a huge opportunity for him.
He wouldn't be starting this game without injuries. This is
how it works. Sometimes somebody gets hurt, you get a shot.
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Dak Prescott's same thing twenty sixteen.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
Maybe you just mentioned there's only two quarterbacks that are
really playing. So I would love to see him play
the entire first half and then Snoop get in there
and play the second half. But in that first half,
Matt it will be magical if on the first drive
he just calculated, just marched down the field and on
that stat sheet. I don't know what his that sheet
is going to be, but I hope there's a one
under the touchdown category because I would love to see
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that for him now. I wanted to see him be
able to march down the field. I don't want to
see that one play bomb. I want to I don't
see like a ten, twelve, thirteen play drive where he
really has to command an offense and throw it incompletion
here and then respond with an eight or ten twelve
yard pass.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
Like That's what I what I want.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
To see out of Shadure when he face off against
against the Panthers, is I just want to I.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
Want to see that.
Speaker 4 (11:34):
That's what I want to see.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
Yeah, I love that.
Speaker 6 (11:36):
Like like you both said, like really go battle, Like
he wasn't thinking the first round pick we need to protect.
You know, he go out there that has a couple
of plays and sit him down, like really have him
go through the journey, and that would be awesome for
him to straight go down the field. Want to see
all kinds of situational footballs get like hopefully he gets
a two minute right, Let's see him get a red zone.
Let's see him if he's backed up, you know, and
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you're not going to see exactly. You're not going to
see that in the very first quarter. I mean you may,
but if he plays three, he might play the whole game,
you know.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
Have him do all that.
Speaker 6 (12:04):
So I'm really looking forward to see him display all
of those tools and just see how he is, you know,
I'm looking forward to that.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
In the world of you know, private jets and social media,
a thought did cross my mind, like are we going
to see Dion there? Does he show up on the sideline?
Does he take a beat from coaching up his own
college training camp at Colorado to support his son. His son,
Shador was asked about this recently, and he said, not
about the game, in particular about training camp. I don't
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want him coming to see me right now because I
want to get where I want to go. Then for
him to see me, I don't want him to come
and see me get a couple of reps, have him
cheer on like a good dad, Like, no, you can't
be proud of me right now. I got to get
where I'm going. I know it's a lot I got
to go out there and do. Kyle, what do you
think about Dion's connection all this It's almost I think
the coverage has actually subsided, obviously with his health issues
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and whatnot for the dad and the head coach. But
what do you make of Dion kind of watching his
son get this start tonight.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
I like Dion not being there.
Speaker 5 (13:02):
I like it.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
It's just it's too big of a presence. Every shot
in the crowd will be a beyond this and beyond that.
I just want it to be a stripped down spartan
old fashion. Could be any other fifth round pick coming
in trying to make a team and make some throws.
The second Dion's there, it's the supernova presence. I just
I think they've played it really well, really classy football first,
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football first. Dion represents so many things that aren't football
by no fault of his own. But I just I
love the idea of him not being there in fact,
for the entire preset. I think it's very very cool.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
I like the.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
Personalities of the quarterbacks that we're going to talk about
in this segment. We're going to start with a rookie
in New York, Jackson Dart is calling his Giants preseason
debut quote the start of a dream, and he'll have
his family and attendance when the Giants take on the Bills.
Another friendly face for the rookie has become Bills quarterback
Josh Allen, who Jackson Dart has been getting advice from.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (14:01):
I talked to Josh like a few days after I
got drafted, and he's been somebody who I've you know,
really looked up to and since coming here, just you know,
watching a ton of his tape and how he was
able to operate, you know, Coach Davis's system and whatnot.
So it's going to be, you know, kind of a
surreal feeling to uh, you know, be on the same
field with them.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
This feels like a bigger deal than he's making it sound. Well,
what do you make of Jackson Dart hearing from Josh
Allen and keeping the connection up.
Speaker 6 (14:27):
Yeah, this, this, this is a very very big deal.
And this this lets me know that during the quarterback
evaluation process, when Dave Ball was interviewing or going through
this process with Jackson Dark, he saw a lot of
things in Josh Allen that he sees in Jackson Dark,
especially everyone he evaluated when I see them drafting was like, okay,
he definitely sat that there were probably questions or certain
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things he's did with Josh Allen when he came out
of a rookie that he did with Jackson Dart. This
is this is a huge deal and this isn't this
is anything crazy. I mean you see it now with
you got Greg Olsen's tight end. You write a nice
mentorship program. Now you got von Miller's you know, Sack Summit,
another mentorship type of But this this is how it is.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
This is what This is what you want for your.
Speaker 6 (15:08):
Young quarterback to have somebody and unfortunately this situation is
somebody on a different team you know in this case.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
So I love this.
Speaker 6 (15:15):
This This is a huge deal because you want to
be able to as a rookie, be able to someone
you can study, someone you can watch, someone you can
look at and have direct contact with. So this is great.
This is something exactly that's going to help him.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
Yeah, I think it's a big deal. I do think
it's a big deal. Now.
Speaker 4 (15:29):
When I listened to Jackson Dart in that little interview,
he said that he called Josh Allen shortly after he
got drafted so I'm assuming that after he gets drafted
either Brian day Ball. I'm assuming as Brian day Ball says, hey,
call this guy, call Josh Allen, because I don't think
anybody that Jackson Dart knew before getting drafted to the
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Giants had Josh Allen's number besides that man right there
or Joe Shane. So that that tells me one thing.
The Giants had a type and they're looking for that type,
and when they met with Jackson Dart that he was
their type and he brought them in. They brought him
in having an understanding and a plan as to what
they wanted to do. Obviously, all the conversation in the
past few years with the Giants and Joe Shane and
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Brian da Ball and their history with the Buffalo Bills
is when are they going to get their guy? When
are they going to get their Josh Allen? How are
they going to find that? Well, Jackson Dark guest drafted
And for me to know now, for us to know
now that the first person that he one of the
first people that he talked to was Josh Allen, tells
me exactly where the Giants are trying to go with
their team this year, Kyle, Well.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
Listen, I think Dabel doesn't get enough credit for his
role in the ascension of Josh Allen. He's hugely responsible
in a lot of ways from taking this crazy young
maniac quarterback out of Wyoming and making him into the
league MVP eventually. Like he was a very very critical
figure in teaching Josh the game and coaching Josh, and
Josh would have made it either way. But I think
the Dable part of his legacy is Josh Allen.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
And it's cool. Listen the quarterback call thing.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
A lot of times you see if they played at
the same college program, they both work with Jordan Palmer
or somebody like that. I don't see that connective tissue
here other than Dables, like, you played under this guy,
he's my head coach. I'm gonna call you Josh Allen,
incredibly magnanimous, superstar, probably gushed about him and gave him help.
It's not like their division rivals or something like that.
I guess the only problem is for Jackson Dart is like,
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I don't know if you can do some of the
things that Josh Allen can do, Like no one can
really do those things.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
So Josh Allen be.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
Like, yeah, and with Dave system, just drop back and
if nobody's open, just run out of the pocket, leap
over a six foot five linebacker.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
That's what I do. Like, don't do that. Don't do that.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
Like go buy his advice with the passing and the relationship.
But Josh all could give out advice to a lot
of people, a lot of people cannot follow that advice
is up to Jackson Darts and then make it his
own because nobody has the skill set of seventeen.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
It's a good point. That is a specific request to
be done by a quarterback. But we'll see how this
pans out for the Giants and the Bills this weekend.
Moving on, like I said, it's a good group of
personalities in the quarterbacks we are talking about in this segment,
we're looking at Baker Mayfield and Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Yesterday
we talked about how Mike Rabol jumped in to break
up a fight to join practice. Well, Baker Mayfield is
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also not afraid to get physical. He was involved in
a scrum at practice with the Titans.
Speaker 9 (18:13):
Yeah, and our group's not going to back down. You
guys shoving people late in the back. We're not going
to back down. We're not going to start it because
we're not stupid, but we'll finish it.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
For you as a quarterback, to stay out of that.
Speaker 8 (18:27):
Any Tristan is coming.
Speaker 9 (18:28):
Out there, he needs to stay on the sideline with
those crutches. Yeah, I was in the middle of it.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
It's fun.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
We're not going to start it because we're not stupid,
but we will finish it. Will you're giggling with glee. Honestly,
Baker Mayfield with the flat brimmed hat and the casual
stance about the engagement of physicality and practice, is Baker
Mayfield the ultimate bro of the NFL.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
Listen.
Speaker 6 (18:53):
First of all, he has that daa detective nineteen eighties mustache. Yeah,
answering that question, but Baker is definitely the ultimate bro.
Going a way back to Oklahoma, playing the flag, dancing
in the middle of the group. You know, I love
this and I'm gonna go.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
I'm gonna go.
Speaker 6 (19:10):
Last year to the wild Card game versus the Commanders,
with Baker Mayfield decided to go right after first ballot
Hall of Famer Bobby Wagner.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
It runs him rader.
Speaker 6 (19:22):
You see him side of scramble lower the show the
oooh Bobby, sit down, Okay.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
First ballot Hall of Famer, that's what he does.
Speaker 6 (19:30):
He goes right after him. But this is the guy
who says the tone. This is why wherever he went
he found away. He transferred from Texas Tech, goes to Oklahoma,
finds the way and when the Heisman goes first round pick,
number one overall draft pick, and wherever he's gone, he
has affected the team. I remember when he came out
for the draft. I talked to John Dorsey and what
helped decide in fact in drafting him is that he
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had this self efficacy, like he was able to uplift
everybody in the room no matter where he was. And
so right then, when I have my quarterback in a
playoff game decide to scramble, you look Bobby Wagner in
the eyes, and you know he's the first b All
fam And I said it lowered my shoulder. Yes, the
ultimate bro from not play alone.
Speaker 4 (20:09):
Now when we're talking about this question, is he the
ultimate Bro? I'm not going to say he's the ultimate Bro,
but I'm gonna I'm gonna pull a football term his
first team All broe because there's some guys in the NFL. Okay,
I made a Mount Rushmore, thanks sir, to our production team.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
I made a Mountain Rushmer of the team All Bro.
Speaker 4 (20:28):
Okay, we got we got Baker in there, George Kiddle,
we got Snowman, a friend of our show, and Jordan
my Alatta.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
That's my first team All Bro Mount Rushmore. I would
love to.
Speaker 4 (20:39):
Know what you guys think if you're at home. So
who's your for now? Remember Mount Rushmore is only a four. Okay,
don't send me list of ten twelve. I just need four.
But that's my first team All Bro. I'm not saying
that period. Well, they're the guy that they They're the
identity if you look at these these these players, they're
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the identity of that team.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
Their energy, it's infectious.
Speaker 4 (21:04):
Are also the most entertaining guys to listen to on
a miked up, Like if any of these four are
on a micd up segment, I want to listen to that.
Jordan Mailata thinking he's bane, like just congratulating telling Jalen
Hurts during the Super Bowl mat you're that guy, like
weird to know Schnowman's going to say something. Snowmans stopped
stop drifting cars. Okay, stop doing that. George Kittle, everything's
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a clip from him. So that's my first team, all bro.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
I love that and it looks good and it's it
sounds good, and I can't argue with that. Honestly, like
all four of them could be Kittle, Like he he
really really defines this, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
I will go to Orlando, Florida.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
Back at the beginning of twenty twenty five, I work
the Pro Bowl games and as part of that, I
get to talk to the two coaches where Eli and
Peyton manning. Peyton coaches the AFC and Eli coaches the NFC.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
And I asked Peyton, who is an AFC coach?
Speaker 1 (21:56):
My question is going to be, you know, who's the
guy who is the locker room leader in this sort
of locker room here in Florida, Who on the.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
Bus is getting everybody.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
I hadn't even gotten two syllables in, and Pego's Baker Mayfield.
Baker Mayfield not even a guy on his team that's
on Eli's team. He could not wait to say that
Baker is the one who make sure that everyone has
the right kind of beverages on the bus. Who goes
around making sure if you're a first time pro bowler.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
And then I'll tell you later that night.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
I got to stay in the same hotel where the
players were.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
It's the night before the game.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
The next day, I got in pretty late, and there's
the lobby bar, and let's just say that there's the
reason this phrase exists. Baker was holding court in the
lobby bar. I think he had a huge tab run
up for anybody who wanted to be part of it, teammate, fan, anybody,
even in the hotel. He was holding court in the
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Orlando hotel. I'll never forget. I just watched him, like, wow,
Baker's incredibly cool. Then he comes out the next day
signs twenty thousand autographs.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
Like it is the full full bro experience. Florida is
a very bro state. The Pro Bowl is a very
bro events.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
He was the bell of the ball, the prom king
at the bro prom king by far, and.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
I give it a huge compliment.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
I watched Baker Mayfield running over Bobby Wagner there.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
It just makes me wish that I was.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
Young again and at some level of football I could
play with Baker Mayfield and just to be in as
huddle to see what it's like high school pop worn
or anything. It's just contagious that you want to be
a part of it.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
Kyle.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
There's nothing that thrills me more than to see somebody
who matches me and my extrovertedness to hold court at
a lobby bar. So if I had been there and
walked in there, I would have just be lined straight
over to that lobby bar and I'd have been like,
what are we doing? What are we drinking? Let's go, Kyle.
My question for you is this, did you go over
and engage in the court that was being held at
the lobby bar.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
I was with two miners at the time, my son
and his friends, so they weren't really allowed.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
At the lobby bar.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
Although I guarantee it that Baker would have just thrown
my son and his friend like a big old Shirley Temple.
It would have come whatever they wanted, that you can
have it. You guys want some crams, you want a
word search pasta with Butter, I'll.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
Get anything you guys want. He was just so cool,
and I would have Jamie for sure.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
I think this segment of itself is actually is speaking
to me specifically, which is find somebody who is more
of a bro than Baker Mayfield. I think it's hard press. However,
the person that we started with in the segment has
a chance, I think, to be the next bro quarterback.
I think Jackson Dart has it in in you guys.
I think the hair and the headband, and the boats
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and the transferring from USC to Ole Miss, and the
one sided EyeBlack that he wears as it runs down
his cheek, and the occasional large and decorated chain that
he wears as he walks around New York City and
posts things on TikTok. I think Jackson Dart has the
makings to be on our bro list. Are all bro
team in the NFL mantire thoughts?
Speaker 3 (24:48):
I like that.
Speaker 4 (24:48):
I mean he does listen to a Kodak Black, you know,
and you stay Utah can't think of a more bro thing,
Like you're from Utahia, you do Kodak Black like that.
Speaker 3 (24:56):
That's one of that that's broke criteria.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
Yeah, it would be hard for that man, the person
the artist who has to chisel the hair though into
the side of the mountain like that. That's what comes
with it. Baker Mayfield, you're the man and man, I
wish my tombstone would read and show you held court
in the lobby bar and loved that great.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
This was a dude.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
Welcome back to our series, Episode four of our series
of reminding you about dudes that you should remember. You
remember the superstars from twenty thirty years ago, but there
was the shooting stars who might have burnt out, might
have had injuries, might have had other types of adversity.
In today's episode is about this man, Robert Edwards, kind
of an infamous name in the NFL based on what
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happened to him, but an incredible player, incredible story.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
Robert Edwards was a New.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
England patriot who had some incredibly terrible things happened to
him and was able to persevere. And I'm going to
tell the story here. And this was a dude. This
is a guy from Georgia who ends up playing college
football at Georgia. Joined Georgia as a defensive back. In fact,
he played corner. It looks massive there and that number
forty seven switches to running back, scored five touchdow the
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game in South Carolina is still a Georgia record for
most touchdowns in a single game. He gets drafted in
the first round nineteen ninety eight, eighteenth overall to the Patriots.
These are the Pete Carroll Patriots, my friends. And Robert
Edwards had an amazing start to his career. He scored
a touchdown in his first six games in the NFL.
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That is still a record for best start to an
NFL career for a running back. He's stiff arming, dudes.
He had this kind of full backed frame with.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
A half backs quickness.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
This is when big strong back for all the rage
in the NFL. And he's wearing that forty seven with
fingerless gloves and just breaking the nineteen ninety eight scale.
I abstlutely love it against the Oilers again. To emphasize
how incredible to start to his.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
Career was, look at how he ranks historically.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
This is rookies to start a career with a rushing touchdown.
One Plus, he's sitting above two Hall of famers and
a great Buffalo bill in nineteen eighty Robert Evers.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
That still stands. Think of all these he running rookierunning
back scenes.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
You've seen Clinton, Portis Cadillac, Williams, Saquon Barkley. Any of
them could not do what Robert Edwards did and then guys.
Then he accepts his invitation to the Pro Bowl.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
In February of nineteen ninety nine, he.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
Goes to something called the Rookie Beach Bowl, which looks
like all kinds of fun, and it was.
Speaker 3 (27:25):
There's Peyton, there's Charles Woodson. They're playing flag football on
a beach. This is Hawaii, and Robert Edwards is out
there and you play offense and play defense. When Charlie
Batch throws a deep pass to R. W.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
Mccorters, Charles Woodson and Robert Edwards go up to bat
the pass down and Edwards lands and destroys his knee.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
We have the play and.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
I'm not going to show it because it's unsightly and
I think it's disrespectful. But he was severely injured. He
was carried off the sand. There he is where he
learned later that he tore his ACL MCL in PCL
and had nerve damage and sliced an artery in his
left leg.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
In the ambulance on.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
The way to Hawaiian and the way to the hospital
in Hawaii, he has told his leg very well, may
need to be amputated if the blood doesn't stop leaking, erupting.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
It was terrible, terrible sin.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
Doctors save his leg, but tell him to his face
his football career is over and in fact he may
never walk again. This is years before Alex Smith went
through something similar at the quarterback position, and much like
him back in the day, Robert Edwards said, I am
going to fight my way through this.
Speaker 10 (28:36):
I just wanted to play football, be around the games
some type of way.
Speaker 7 (28:41):
People said it wouldn't happen. Even people close to him
didn't really think it was going to happen. Even me,
I questioned it because I have seen those injuries before.
But I guess the difference between him and those other
guys is that he really made a decision that he
would not quit.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
He wouldn't give up.
Speaker 10 (28:57):
I went through a rehab where I worked eight hours
a day. I wanted to quit every step of the way.
It was day that I didn't want to get up.
I think I got for a reason that was able
to come back, for a reason. I had to go
through that to be inspiration to others.
Speaker 3 (29:11):
So you see him there in the Dolphins.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
But first Robert Edwards misses the entire ninety nine season,
the entire two thousand season, all spent on his.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
Rehab and recovery.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
Then he gets brought into being New England Patriot on
the two thousand and one Bill Belichick New England Patriots,
and of all things, it's a groin injury in training camp,
not his knee, a totally separate injury that does not
allow him to make the team. Bill Parcells cuts him.
But two thousand and two, thirteen hundred plus days after
his injury, he is picked up by the Miami Dolphins,
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and he is back on the NFL field for the
two Dolphins, standing there on the baseball field next to
Jay Fiedler, and he's carrying the ball. He's breaking tackles.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
Guys.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
He averaged over five yards of carry after being out
for three years and once being told never mind football,
we don't think you're walk again. We may have to
take your leg. This was a good Dolphins team. He
had a big part in it. He scored three touchdowns,
two touchdowns, an incredible, incredible feed again three years plus
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since having played football. He receives the George Hallis Award
given the players coming back from adversity. And after the
two thousand and two season, he would not play in
the NFL again. However, he goes to the CFL and
was their equivalent of a pro bowler two seasons of
eleven hundred plus yards on that knee breaking tackles, running tough.
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This is three years again after ever having played in
the NFL after his freak injury. Robert Edwards a fantastic,
fantastic story that everybody should look up to. Since retiring
from football way back in two thousand and seven after
his Canadian football he has become a high school coach.
He currently coaches at Washington County High School in Georgia,
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his alma mater. We see him as a patriot, We've
seen him as a dolphin, but we see him as
a symbol of resilience. A terrible, the infamous freak thing
to happen on a beach in Hawaii ends with him
coming back back to play football in the NFL. Robert
Edwards know him, remember him, because back in the day,
this was a dude.
Good Morning Football is the production of the NFL in
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Speaker 2 (00:11):
This is one of those fridays where we have to
really stay on task. Okay, there were three games last night.
There's a bunch of them this weekend. We have to
focus on the topics at hand. Good Morning Football, everybody.
Like I said on a Friday live in LA and
New York, Jamiard Oldmantaiso, Kyle Brant, Will Blackman, Kyle, you
got another one.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Of your This was a dude's today.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Who's our dude today?
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Oh yeah, we look back on some of these guys
that you may have forgotten about from twenty twenty five
years ago. This guy is a story of a horrific
injury and incredible comeback and an all time great player
with an infamous moment that.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
NFL fans know about. But guys, you want infamy.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
We have pre season football, and we have a very
very very well known fifth round pick rookie who will
be starting tonight. You better believe we're going to talk
about it's good Morning football on a Friday.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Let's light this candle.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
That's right, it's good Morning football.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
Everybody.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Welcome inside. Will Kyle Manti Jamie Kyle, it's beginning that
time of the year where it's like beautiful chaos on
the table. I got papers, we got highlights, we got
all that. We got to watch a lot of papers.
This is like my break glass paper situation.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Kyle.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
I've been trying to coach up Mansion on how to
read a highlight because this is what we're gonna do
on GMAPO next week. Manti, you're gonna start practicing. Got
any quick tips from the pro on how to read
a professional highlight for a football game?
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Yeah? Take this, throw it and just talk about what
you see. Just just go. Don't worry about all these
little notes and thinks. You just be you, buddy, be you? Okay,
all right, Well, then.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Show us how it's done, Kyle, take it away last night.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
What do we go with? Well, now, I'm just gonna
fall on my face. Get there, all right, Jalen Hurts.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
Will not be falling on his face because he's standing
on the sideline.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
What does he happen there with those sour skittles? What
were that? Looks like a green package? Joe Burrow, Jamar.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Chase inexplicably on the field, I say inexplicably it's just
I don't mean that. I mean it's just shocking to
actually see them play in real football. Jamar Chase played
a lot of real football, at least it felt that way.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
It was fifteen snaps.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
But I feel like he had one hundred catches last
night on the Eagles. Obviously, the full chemistry, the full firepower.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
You got Tee Higgins out there too, you got other starters,
but we.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Just cut it up nice and clean and Burrow Chase.
It's like a demo reel that they're putting together based
on these poor Eagles. If you had Bengals and preseason
survivor unfortunately they lost the game and you're out with
the Eagles one.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
Yeah, they did. Listen.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Pete Carroll was in Seattle for fourteen years. So after
this game last night between the Raiders and the Seahawks,
the coach said sometimes he looked up at the scoreboard
thinking nice, nice play by a Seahawks player. He's like, no,
I coach the Raiders, Now, yeah you do. George o'lani
bounces back to the left side for a twenty four
yard touchdown, but watch on his get up, don't fall
into the photographer celebration. That's not just howy ultimate ographer.
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Everybody that is Marshawn Lynch speaking of the sawerskittle that
Jalen Hurts may or may not have been eating. I
bet he has them in his back pocket. Marshaw Lynch,
everybody with a media credential crouching down probably taking the
most epic rage filled pictures ever because that's how he
ran Kyle.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
You know it.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
And let's see how these Ravens and Colts run. First
of all, in honor to Jim Mersey. They're late owner.
They have the patch, they have Daniel Jones, Anthony Richardson,
and then they only have Daniel Jones because Anthony.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Richards gets rocked. It's a free rush from his right side.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
It's David Ojabo from the Ravens with an eight yard sack.
But Anthony Richardson's pinky does a right angle. It's gross
to look at. We feel bad for him. He would
not play for the rest of the night. Dislocated his
pinky finger on his throwing hand. I mean, it's not
a cataclysmic injury, but it's not great if you're in
a quarterback competition and maybe already in second place in
that competition. In some minds, and the Ravens do what
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they always do, win preseason games. They're incredible dynasty in
that regard twenty four to sixteen final score. If you
care what you don't, Jamie, let's get back to some discussion.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
I love an oxymoron like that. An incredible preseason dynasty. Well,
let's see what happens in the regular season. Though specifically
with this young man. Browns rocky quarterback Shadour Sanders was
the second quarterback off the board for this team. However,
he will get the start tonight as Dylan Gabriel has
been dealing with a bit of an injury throughout training camp.
Browns are playing the Panthers, a game that you can
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see right here on NFL Network. Miles Garrett, household name
in Cleveland and nationally if you're a football fan, was
asked about Shadour Sanders and how he's conducted himself during
training camp.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
It's funny.
Speaker 5 (04:40):
He's optimistic, light hearted, but he works hard. You know,
he takes it seriously his craft, and he's watching what
the others are doing and not doing it his own
way and which only he can. So looking forward to
to see him. Then these preseason games and how he
manages the offense. But I think he he looks good,
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but all the guys look good.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
By Now, what do we expect from Dr Sanders tonight?
Speaker 3 (05:05):
Okay?
Speaker 4 (05:06):
What I do? What do I expect? I expect completions? Okay,
just complete the balls door. I know there was a
lot of talk when he came out of college that
he had a tendency to hold onto the ball and
it got into a lot of trouble. I don't care
where you throw the ball, door, if it's five yards
in front of the line of scrimmage, five yards behind,
just complete the pass like play loose, have fun, and
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just be on pace like that when your backfoot hits
the ground on a three.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
Step drop, throw the ball. Just throw to.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
Somebody in the brown or orange or white jersey and
and make those passes. So that's my expectation for him.
Just don't hold the ball, don't try to be a hero.
Just make completion after completion, and then we'll see where
that leads you in every single drive.
Speaker 6 (05:45):
But is there a more well prepared quarterback for preseason
than shir Door Sanders. You look at in Colorado, right,
they were ranked dead last and rushing right, they had
sixty like sixty five yards per game. You had teams
like the kent State Golden Flashes, the Arizona Zip, the
Western Kentucky Hilltoppers who had more Russian yards than the
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Colorado Buffalo's. Also too, he was the most sacked quarterback
in the entire in all of college football forty two times,
but still was able to throw for four thousand yards,
still have seventy four completion percentage, still have thirty seven
touchdowns and ten picks.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
He was still able to.
Speaker 6 (06:25):
Stand in all that chaos, no protection, no run game,
and still has success. So I'm looking forward to see
what he does because basically he played in a preseason
game all last year.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
Hey, will you cracked me up?
Speaker 7 (06:37):
Man?
Speaker 1 (06:37):
I got to get an Arizona Zips jersey. That sounds
like a hell of a program. I want to donate
to the Arizona Zips. I think it's the Akron Zips.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
But Arizona. Yeah, Acron Zips.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
I think it's the Akron Sun Devil. We messed up
all the time. I actually like the sound of the airs.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
Arizona Zips just flows better.
Speaker 6 (07:00):
Hey, my battle Lebron, I know you Ackron guy you know.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
Yeah, yeah, the kid from Arizona, as he likes to say, yeah,
it's true. Listen, this is I'm looking at the bottom
of the screen and it's a Brown's logo and a
Panther's logo. And in spite of that, I feel like
this is going to be an event tonight, like a real,
real event. It's gonna be something that we look back on,
a football event sort of, but also a media event.
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Your phone, you at home, your phone's going to be
smoking tonight.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
If he plays well.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
Shador, there's going to be a faction of the internet
that will scream about everything from disrespected to collusion. If
Shador has a rough night, another faction will scream I
told you so. Either way, there will be screams, fire
in the hole. I can't wait for this game in
a lot of ways, given the tenor of the media
in twenty twenty five, in the relationship with Shadur, this
is like one of the most high profile preseason games
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in history, Browns at Panthers.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
Watch the media.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
People are going to try to make their careers on
social media based on a week one preseason Browns game.
People might their careers on it two. This is going
to be nuclear. What I would like to see and
what I hope to see. I want you door to
go out and win the job I'm talking about, like
the real job, the starting job. Take a huge step
to do that be undeniable. I promise you. No one
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with the Browns, no one is rooting for Joe Flacco
to be the best quarterback on the team this year,
nor Canny Pickett or any of those guys. The Browns
would love nothing more than the best quarterback on their
roster to be Shador Sanders or Dylan Gabriel, and Gabriel
is hurt.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
So Shadur go play go, play out.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
We have not seen a fifth round rookie quarterback start
Week one of their rookie year, but who cares. We've
seen guys who get passed on over and over show
up as rookies and just have it Dak Prescott, Russell Wilson,
on and on and on, and we didn't know they
had it until they actually take the field. I'd say
to chadur tonight is a football night. It is a
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football night. No fame, no nil, no draft party, no
retire number.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
This is not about prime time. This is in prime time. Tonight.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
You are not a NEPO player or a celebrity athlete.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
You are a cheap Day.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
Three pick rookie who your own team barely believed in
on draft night. Play like that tonight, Play with the chip,
play with the motivation, play great, take a big leap
to actually winning this job.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
That's what I want to see, Kyle.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
I'm gonna press you even further because you describe kind
of the aura around the night. But I also challenge
you to give us like some tactile number you want
to see a half? Do you want to see eight
for nine?
Speaker 3 (09:44):
Not like?
Speaker 2 (09:44):
What do you want to see from him in how
he conducts himself? Because you're right, camera's going to track
him everywhere. People are going to want to see how
he behaves. But what about the real production that would
convince you that he should be the guy?
Speaker 3 (09:55):
I want to see him play a lot.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
I'd love to see him play a whole half because
I like to see response to things. If he throws
a pick, if he strips after something, I want to
see how he plays right after that. I want to
see the next throw. I want to see the next snap.
I want to see all the stuff. We want to see.
I want to see command of the huddle. I want
to see him pointing guys around here, moving guys here.
Does he look the parts? And I want to see
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the arm I want to see the legs. I mean,
I wouldn't like to see entire two quarters three quarters.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
I don't care. By the way, they don't have a
lot of healthy bodies, all right.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
They brought in Snoopuntley and Flacco. I don't know if
he's going to play at all. I doubt he's not
going to come into as a replacement for Shador. The
other guys are hurt, so we may see a ton
of football, and I want to see it all. I
apologize for nothing. I want to see a lot of
Chadour tonight. I think it's a huge opportunity for him.
He wouldn't be starting this game without injuries. This is
how it works. Sometimes somebody gets hurt, you get a shot.
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Dak Prescott's same thing twenty sixteen.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
Maybe you just mentioned there's only two quarterbacks that are
really playing. So I would love to see him play
the entire first half and then Snoop get in there
and play the second half. But in that first half,
Matt it will be magical if on the first drive
he just calculated, just marched down the field and on
that stat sheet. I don't know what his that sheet
is going to be, but I hope there's a one
under the touchdown category because I would love to see
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that for him now. I wanted to see him be
able to march down the field. I don't want to
see that one play bomb. I want to I don't
see like a ten, twelve, thirteen play drive where he
really has to command an offense and throw it incompletion
here and then respond with an eight or ten twelve
yard pass.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
Like That's what I what I want.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
To see out of Shadure when he face off against
against the Panthers, is I just want to I.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
Want to see that.
Speaker 4 (11:34):
That's what I want to see.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
Yeah, I love that.
Speaker 6 (11:36):
Like like you both said, like really go battle, Like
he wasn't thinking the first round pick we need to protect.
You know, he go out there that has a couple
of plays and sit him down, like really have him
go through the journey, and that would be awesome for
him to straight go down the field. Want to see
all kinds of situational footballs get like hopefully he gets
a two minute right, Let's see him get a red zone.
Let's see him if he's backed up, you know, and
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you're not going to see exactly. You're not going to
see that in the very first quarter. I mean you may,
but if he plays three, he might play the whole game,
you know.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
Have him do all that.
Speaker 6 (12:04):
So I'm really looking forward to see him display all
of those tools and just see how he is, you know,
I'm looking forward to that.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
In the world of you know, private jets and social media,
a thought did cross my mind, like are we going
to see Dion there? Does he show up on the sideline?
Does he take a beat from coaching up his own
college training camp at Colorado to support his son. His son,
Shador was asked about this recently, and he said, not
about the game, in particular about training camp. I don't
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want him coming to see me right now because I
want to get where I want to go. Then for
him to see me, I don't want him to come
and see me get a couple of reps, have him
cheer on like a good dad, Like, no, you can't
be proud of me right now. I got to get
where I'm going. I know it's a lot I got
to go out there and do. Kyle, what do you
think about Dion's connection all this It's almost I think
the coverage has actually subsided, obviously with his health issues
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and whatnot for the dad and the head coach. But
what do you make of Dion kind of watching his
son get this start tonight.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
I like Dion not being there.
Speaker 5 (13:02):
I like it.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
It's just it's too big of a presence. Every shot
in the crowd will be a beyond this and beyond that.
I just want it to be a stripped down spartan
old fashion. Could be any other fifth round pick coming
in trying to make a team and make some throws.
The second Dion's there, it's the supernova presence. I just
I think they've played it really well, really classy football first,
(13:24):
football first. Dion represents so many things that aren't football
by no fault of his own. But I just I
love the idea of him not being there in fact,
for the entire preset. I think it's very very cool.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
I like the.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
Personalities of the quarterbacks that we're going to talk about
in this segment. We're going to start with a rookie
in New York, Jackson Dart is calling his Giants preseason
debut quote the start of a dream, and he'll have
his family and attendance when the Giants take on the Bills.
Another friendly face for the rookie has become Bills quarterback
Josh Allen, who Jackson Dart has been getting advice from.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (14:01):
I talked to Josh like a few days after I
got drafted, and he's been somebody who I've you know,
really looked up to and since coming here, just you know,
watching a ton of his tape and how he was
able to operate, you know, Coach Davis's system and whatnot.
So it's going to be, you know, kind of a
surreal feeling to uh, you know, be on the same
field with them.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
This feels like a bigger deal than he's making it sound. Well,
what do you make of Jackson Dart hearing from Josh
Allen and keeping the connection up.
Speaker 6 (14:27):
Yeah, this, this, this is a very very big deal.
And this this lets me know that during the quarterback
evaluation process, when Dave Ball was interviewing or going through
this process with Jackson Dark, he saw a lot of
things in Josh Allen that he sees in Jackson Dark,
especially everyone he evaluated when I see them drafting was like, okay,
he definitely sat that there were probably questions or certain
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things he's did with Josh Allen when he came out
of a rookie that he did with Jackson Dart. This
is this is a huge deal and this isn't this
is anything crazy. I mean you see it now with
you got Greg Olsen's tight end. You write a nice
mentorship program. Now you got von Miller's you know, Sack Summit,
another mentorship type of But this this is how it is.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
This is what This is what you want for your.
Speaker 6 (15:08):
Young quarterback to have somebody and unfortunately this situation is
somebody on a different team you know in this case.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
So I love this.
Speaker 6 (15:15):
This This is a huge deal because you want to
be able to as a rookie, be able to someone
you can study, someone you can watch, someone you can
look at and have direct contact with. So this is great.
This is something exactly that's going to help him.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
Yeah, I think it's a big deal. I do think
it's a big deal. Now.
Speaker 4 (15:29):
When I listened to Jackson Dart in that little interview,
he said that he called Josh Allen shortly after he
got drafted so I'm assuming that after he gets drafted
either Brian day Ball. I'm assuming as Brian day Ball says, hey,
call this guy, call Josh Allen, because I don't think
anybody that Jackson Dart knew before getting drafted to the
(15:49):
Giants had Josh Allen's number besides that man right there
or Joe Shane. So that that tells me one thing.
The Giants had a type and they're looking for that type,
and when they met with Jackson Dart that he was
their type and he brought them in. They brought him
in having an understanding and a plan as to what
they wanted to do. Obviously, all the conversation in the
past few years with the Giants and Joe Shane and
(16:11):
Brian da Ball and their history with the Buffalo Bills
is when are they going to get their guy? When
are they going to get their Josh Allen? How are
they going to find that? Well, Jackson Dark guest drafted
And for me to know now, for us to know
now that the first person that he one of the
first people that he talked to was Josh Allen, tells
me exactly where the Giants are trying to go with
their team this year, Kyle, Well.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
Listen, I think Dabel doesn't get enough credit for his
role in the ascension of Josh Allen. He's hugely responsible
in a lot of ways from taking this crazy young
maniac quarterback out of Wyoming and making him into the
league MVP eventually. Like he was a very very critical
figure in teaching Josh the game and coaching Josh, and
Josh would have made it either way. But I think
the Dable part of his legacy is Josh Allen.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
And it's cool. Listen the quarterback call thing.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
A lot of times you see if they played at
the same college program, they both work with Jordan Palmer
or somebody like that. I don't see that connective tissue
here other than Dables, like, you played under this guy,
he's my head coach. I'm gonna call you Josh Allen,
incredibly magnanimous, superstar, probably gushed about him and gave him help.
It's not like their division rivals or something like that.
I guess the only problem is for Jackson Dart is like,
(17:18):
I don't know if you can do some of the
things that Josh Allen can do, Like no one can
really do those things.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
So Josh Allen be.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
Like, yeah, and with Dave system, just drop back and
if nobody's open, just run out of the pocket, leap
over a six foot five linebacker.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
That's what I do. Like, don't do that. Don't do that.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
Like go buy his advice with the passing and the relationship.
But Josh all could give out advice to a lot
of people, a lot of people cannot follow that advice
is up to Jackson Darts and then make it his
own because nobody has the skill set of seventeen.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
It's a good point. That is a specific request to
be done by a quarterback. But we'll see how this
pans out for the Giants and the Bills this weekend.
Moving on, like I said, it's a good group of
personalities in the quarterbacks we are talking about in this segment,
we're looking at Baker Mayfield and Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Yesterday
we talked about how Mike Rabol jumped in to break
up a fight to join practice. Well, Baker Mayfield is
(18:06):
also not afraid to get physical. He was involved in
a scrum at practice with the Titans.
Speaker 9 (18:13):
Yeah, and our group's not going to back down. You
guys shoving people late in the back. We're not going
to back down. We're not going to start it because
we're not stupid, but we'll finish it.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
For you as a quarterback, to stay out of that.
Speaker 8 (18:27):
Any Tristan is coming.
Speaker 9 (18:28):
Out there, he needs to stay on the sideline with
those crutches. Yeah, I was in the middle of it.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
It's fun.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
We're not going to start it because we're not stupid,
but we will finish it. Will you're giggling with glee. Honestly,
Baker Mayfield with the flat brimmed hat and the casual
stance about the engagement of physicality and practice, is Baker
Mayfield the ultimate bro of the NFL.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
Listen.
Speaker 6 (18:53):
First of all, he has that daa detective nineteen eighties mustache. Yeah,
answering that question, but Baker is definitely the ultimate bro.
Going a way back to Oklahoma, playing the flag, dancing
in the middle of the group. You know, I love
this and I'm gonna go.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
I'm gonna go.
Speaker 6 (19:10):
Last year to the wild Card game versus the Commanders,
with Baker Mayfield decided to go right after first ballot
Hall of Famer Bobby Wagner.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
It runs him rader.
Speaker 6 (19:22):
You see him side of scramble lower the show the
oooh Bobby, sit down, Okay.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
First ballot Hall of Famer, that's what he does.
Speaker 6 (19:30):
He goes right after him. But this is the guy
who says the tone. This is why wherever he went
he found away. He transferred from Texas Tech, goes to Oklahoma,
finds the way and when the Heisman goes first round pick,
number one overall draft pick, and wherever he's gone, he
has affected the team. I remember when he came out
for the draft. I talked to John Dorsey and what
helped decide in fact in drafting him is that he
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had this self efficacy, like he was able to uplift
everybody in the room no matter where he was. And
so right then, when I have my quarterback in a
playoff game decide to scramble, you look Bobby Wagner in
the eyes, and you know he's the first b All
fam And I said it lowered my shoulder. Yes, the
ultimate bro from not play alone.
Speaker 4 (20:09):
Now when we're talking about this question, is he the
ultimate Bro? I'm not going to say he's the ultimate Bro,
but I'm gonna I'm gonna pull a football term his
first team All broe because there's some guys in the NFL. Okay,
I made a Mount Rushmore, thanks sir, to our production team.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
I made a Mountain Rushmer of the team All Bro.
Speaker 4 (20:28):
Okay, we got we got Baker in there, George Kiddle,
we got Snowman, a friend of our show, and Jordan
my Alatta.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
That's my first team All Bro Mount Rushmore. I would
love to.
Speaker 4 (20:39):
Know what you guys think if you're at home. So
who's your for now? Remember Mount Rushmore is only a four. Okay,
don't send me list of ten twelve. I just need four.
But that's my first team All Bro. I'm not saying
that period. Well, they're the guy that they They're the
identity if you look at these these these players, they're
(21:00):
the identity of that team.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
Their energy, it's infectious.
Speaker 4 (21:04):
Are also the most entertaining guys to listen to on
a miked up, Like if any of these four are
on a micd up segment, I want to listen to that.
Jordan Mailata thinking he's bane, like just congratulating telling Jalen
Hurts during the Super Bowl mat you're that guy, like
weird to know Schnowman's going to say something. Snowmans stopped
stop drifting cars. Okay, stop doing that. George Kittle, everything's
(21:25):
a clip from him. So that's my first team, all bro.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
I love that and it looks good and it's it
sounds good, and I can't argue with that. Honestly, like
all four of them could be Kittle, Like he he
really really defines this, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
I will go to Orlando, Florida.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
Back at the beginning of twenty twenty five, I work
the Pro Bowl games and as part of that, I
get to talk to the two coaches where Eli and
Peyton manning. Peyton coaches the AFC and Eli coaches the NFC.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
And I asked Peyton, who is an AFC coach?
Speaker 1 (21:56):
My question is going to be, you know, who's the
guy who is the locker room leader in this sort
of locker room here in Florida, Who on the.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
Bus is getting everybody.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
I hadn't even gotten two syllables in, and Pego's Baker Mayfield.
Baker Mayfield not even a guy on his team that's
on Eli's team. He could not wait to say that
Baker is the one who make sure that everyone has
the right kind of beverages on the bus. Who goes
around making sure if you're a first time pro bowler.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
And then I'll tell you later that night.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
I got to stay in the same hotel where the
players were.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
It's the night before the game.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
The next day, I got in pretty late, and there's
the lobby bar, and let's just say that there's the
reason this phrase exists. Baker was holding court in the
lobby bar. I think he had a huge tab run
up for anybody who wanted to be part of it, teammate, fan, anybody,
even in the hotel. He was holding court in the
(22:46):
Orlando hotel. I'll never forget. I just watched him, like, wow,
Baker's incredibly cool. Then he comes out the next day
signs twenty thousand autographs.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
Like it is the full full bro experience. Florida is
a very bro state. The Pro Bowl is a very
bro events.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
He was the bell of the ball, the prom king
at the bro prom king by far, and.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
I give it a huge compliment.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
I watched Baker Mayfield running over Bobby Wagner there.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
It just makes me wish that I was.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
Young again and at some level of football I could
play with Baker Mayfield and just to be in as
huddle to see what it's like high school pop worn
or anything. It's just contagious that you want to be
a part of it.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
Kyle.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
There's nothing that thrills me more than to see somebody
who matches me and my extrovertedness to hold court at
a lobby bar. So if I had been there and
walked in there, I would have just be lined straight
over to that lobby bar and I'd have been like,
what are we doing? What are we drinking? Let's go, Kyle.
My question for you is this, did you go over
and engage in the court that was being held at
the lobby bar.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
I was with two miners at the time, my son
and his friends, so they weren't really allowed.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
At the lobby bar.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
Although I guarantee it that Baker would have just thrown
my son and his friend like a big old Shirley Temple.
It would have come whatever they wanted, that you can
have it. You guys want some crams, you want a
word search pasta with Butter, I'll.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
Get anything you guys want. He was just so cool,
and I would have Jamie for sure.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
I think this segment of itself is actually is speaking
to me specifically, which is find somebody who is more
of a bro than Baker Mayfield. I think it's hard press. However,
the person that we started with in the segment has
a chance, I think, to be the next bro quarterback.
I think Jackson Dart has it in in you guys.
I think the hair and the headband, and the boats
(24:26):
and the transferring from USC to Ole Miss, and the
one sided EyeBlack that he wears as it runs down
his cheek, and the occasional large and decorated chain that
he wears as he walks around New York City and
posts things on TikTok. I think Jackson Dart has the
makings to be on our bro list. Are all bro
team in the NFL mantire thoughts?
Speaker 3 (24:48):
I like that.
Speaker 4 (24:48):
I mean he does listen to a Kodak Black, you know,
and you stay Utah can't think of a more bro thing,
Like you're from Utahia, you do Kodak Black like that.
Speaker 3 (24:56):
That's one of that that's broke criteria.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
Yeah, it would be hard for that man, the person
the artist who has to chisel the hair though into
the side of the mountain like that. That's what comes
with it. Baker Mayfield, you're the man and man, I
wish my tombstone would read and show you held court
in the lobby bar and loved that great.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
This was a dude.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
Welcome back to our series, Episode four of our series
of reminding you about dudes that you should remember. You
remember the superstars from twenty thirty years ago, but there
was the shooting stars who might have burnt out, might
have had injuries, might have had other types of adversity.
In today's episode is about this man, Robert Edwards, kind
of an infamous name in the NFL based on what
(25:38):
happened to him, but an incredible player, incredible story.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
Robert Edwards was a New.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
England patriot who had some incredibly terrible things happened to
him and was able to persevere. And I'm going to
tell the story here. And this was a dude. This
is a guy from Georgia who ends up playing college
football at Georgia. Joined Georgia as a defensive back. In fact,
he played corner. It looks massive there and that number
forty seven switches to running back, scored five touchdow the
(26:04):
game in South Carolina is still a Georgia record for
most touchdowns in a single game. He gets drafted in
the first round nineteen ninety eight, eighteenth overall to the Patriots.
These are the Pete Carroll Patriots, my friends. And Robert
Edwards had an amazing start to his career. He scored
a touchdown in his first six games in the NFL.
(26:26):
That is still a record for best start to an
NFL career for a running back. He's stiff arming, dudes.
He had this kind of full backed frame with.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
A half backs quickness.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
This is when big strong back for all the rage
in the NFL. And he's wearing that forty seven with
fingerless gloves and just breaking the nineteen ninety eight scale.
I abstlutely love it against the Oilers again. To emphasize
how incredible to start to his.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
Career was, look at how he ranks historically.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
This is rookies to start a career with a rushing touchdown.
One Plus, he's sitting above two Hall of famers and
a great Buffalo bill in nineteen eighty Robert Evers.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
That still stands. Think of all these he running rookierunning
back scenes.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
You've seen Clinton, Portis Cadillac, Williams, Saquon Barkley. Any of
them could not do what Robert Edwards did and then guys.
Then he accepts his invitation to the Pro Bowl.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
In February of nineteen ninety nine, he.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
Goes to something called the Rookie Beach Bowl, which looks
like all kinds of fun, and it was.
Speaker 3 (27:25):
There's Peyton, there's Charles Woodson. They're playing flag football on
a beach. This is Hawaii, and Robert Edwards is out
there and you play offense and play defense. When Charlie
Batch throws a deep pass to R. W.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
Mccorters, Charles Woodson and Robert Edwards go up to bat
the pass down and Edwards lands and destroys his knee.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
We have the play and.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
I'm not going to show it because it's unsightly and
I think it's disrespectful. But he was severely injured. He
was carried off the sand. There he is where he
learned later that he tore his ACL MCL in PCL
and had nerve damage and sliced an artery in his
left leg.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
In the ambulance on.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
The way to Hawaiian and the way to the hospital
in Hawaii, he has told his leg very well, may
need to be amputated if the blood doesn't stop leaking, erupting.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
It was terrible, terrible sin.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
Doctors save his leg, but tell him to his face
his football career is over and in fact he may
never walk again. This is years before Alex Smith went
through something similar at the quarterback position, and much like
him back in the day, Robert Edwards said, I am
going to fight my way through this.
Speaker 10 (28:36):
I just wanted to play football, be around the games
some type of way.
Speaker 7 (28:41):
People said it wouldn't happen. Even people close to him
didn't really think it was going to happen. Even me,
I questioned it because I have seen those injuries before.
But I guess the difference between him and those other
guys is that he really made a decision that he
would not quit.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
He wouldn't give up.
Speaker 10 (28:57):
I went through a rehab where I worked eight hours
a day. I wanted to quit every step of the way.
It was day that I didn't want to get up.
I think I got for a reason that was able
to come back, for a reason. I had to go
through that to be inspiration to others.
Speaker 3 (29:11):
So you see him there in the Dolphins.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
But first Robert Edwards misses the entire ninety nine season,
the entire two thousand season, all spent on his.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
Rehab and recovery.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
Then he gets brought into being New England Patriot on
the two thousand and one Bill Belichick New England Patriots,
and of all things, it's a groin injury in training camp,
not his knee, a totally separate injury that does not
allow him to make the team. Bill Parcells cuts him.
But two thousand and two, thirteen hundred plus days after
his injury, he is picked up by the Miami Dolphins,
(29:44):
and he is back on the NFL field for the
two Dolphins, standing there on the baseball field next to
Jay Fiedler, and he's carrying the ball. He's breaking tackles.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
Guys.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
He averaged over five yards of carry after being out
for three years and once being told never mind football,
we don't think you're walk again. We may have to
take your leg. This was a good Dolphins team. He
had a big part in it. He scored three touchdowns,
two touchdowns, an incredible, incredible feed again three years plus
(30:16):
since having played football. He receives the George Hallis Award
given the players coming back from adversity. And after the
two thousand and two season, he would not play in
the NFL again. However, he goes to the CFL and
was their equivalent of a pro bowler two seasons of
eleven hundred plus yards on that knee breaking tackles, running tough.
(30:37):
This is three years again after ever having played in
the NFL after his freak injury. Robert Edwards a fantastic,
fantastic story that everybody should look up to. Since retiring
from football way back in two thousand and seven after
his Canadian football he has become a high school coach.
He currently coaches at Washington County High School in Georgia,
(30:57):
his alma mater. We see him as a patriot, We've
seen him as a dolphin, but we see him as
a symbol of resilience. A terrible, the infamous freak thing
to happen on a beach in Hawaii ends with him
coming back back to play football in the NFL. Robert
Edwards know him, remember him, because back in the day,
this was a dude.
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