July 14, 2025 • 41 mins
Hour One of the Good Morning Football Podcast begins with the Chargers being the first team in training camp. Hosts Jamie Erdahl, Kyle Brandt, and Manti Te'o discuss how the Chargers can improve. Randy Moss thinks Justin Jefferson could be the greatest WR ever in the NFL, do you agree? Plus, Ndamukong Suh retires and the table looks at the Top 10 plays of his career.
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
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Speaker 2 (00:11):
Morning Football on a Monday, Monday, July fourteenth. In fact,
Jamie ear at All, Mance, I'd say, Kyle Brandt, he's
in New York City, Kyle. I have a sweet gift
for you this week, and it's your ability to speak
over football players on a field and just talk openly.
It's like live action voiceover of football.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
It's real.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
The Chargers of rookies have reported your thoughts.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Well, I just want raw, live videotape of guys stretching,
touching their toes and having conversation, and I want the
production booth to tell us to talk over it for
eight straight minutes. That's what we do every single summer.
And if we're doing it today, I'm dancing to Jake.
Let's go, Let's go.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
The Chargers are in all thirty two. We're talking about you.
Roland Good that's right, g MF B.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Kyle Brandt, Mantaiteo, Jamie ear at All here, Mantai. If
you're a rookie, you've already been through a rookie mini camp.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
You're getting to know your guys. Then the veterans show up.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Is there a nervousness that young guys feel like, well,
I'm already the man, and then the actual man walks in.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
Yeah, you're still a little boy.
Speaker 5 (01:24):
You feel like the man until Philip Rivers walks in keenan.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
Now you know what. It just it's the way that
the circle of life happens. Ah, it's that part of
the year.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
It is that part of the year which we are
projecting upon teams that we are trying. We hope great
things for all the teams in the NFL, specifically maybe
our neighbors here in Los Angeles across the way at
SOFI Stadium.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
It's one of the chart one of the teams.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
The Chargers play there every weekend and they're head coach
Jim Harbaugh and the Chargers are the first to open
training camp. But attendance, that's kind of a loose way
to put it, is not perfect because the veterans have
yet to report which happens on Wednesday, the Chargers second
round rookie wide receiver Trey Harris was not in the
rest of the squad on Saturday, the deadline for.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
The Chargers rookies.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
This according to NFL Network insider Ian Rappaport. Now, no
cause for concern is this since tends to be a
trend right now happening with the second round picks. But
that doesn't mean that the Chargers shouldn't care about those
young guys making sure they get their reps in before
the Vets arrive. Speaking of the Vets, Justin Herbert and
the rest of the crew. They won eleven games last season,
but they lost in the wild card round of the playoffs.
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They're often competitive, but they struggle to get over the
hump in January. What needs to happen this year, Mantai
for you to define the season to be truly different
for an LA Chargers team.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
Well, let's talk about what they did.
Speaker 5 (02:41):
There are some questions in regarding the interior part of
the offensive line. They need to add something there. Well,
they go and they sign Kaiy Becton, Super Bowl champ.
He's a refrigerator of a man, and you pair him
with Joe Alt and Slater and there they have now
one of the more dominant offensive lines going into this year.
And just that plays well with what Jim Harbaugh is
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trying to do with running the ball.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
Now, the thing that they do need to change.
Speaker 5 (03:06):
And this is something that they've been affected with since
I was with the Chargers. Is this injury bug that
seems to strike the Chargers throughout the year. You look
at the injuries from last year and this is just
the ir guys. I mean there were times when Justin
Herbert wasn't in the game.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
I mean, joe Al Slayer wasn't in the.
Speaker 5 (03:25):
Game, Joey Boso wasn't and you could even go back
to twenty twenty three when Keenan Allen was out, Austin
Eckler was out, Like, these are just key players consistently.
There's no consistency and there's no way that you can win.
Just look at what happened to the Lions when that
defense was just decimated last year for a good part
of the season. It's hard to win games when you
have all of those injuries. I remember when I was
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with the Chargers back in twenty sixteen, it was we
had a lineup Jamie going into Week one offensively and
defensively that could rival. This is the Week one offense
that we had Jamie and KB Like, just look at
we had Philip Rivers, Dannywood had Kyle An, we had guys,
this is the lineup going into the last game of
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that season. Look at the contrast, Look at the difference
between the guys. You still have Philip Rivers, But where's
everybody else?
Speaker 4 (04:16):
Yeah, and this is just offense.
Speaker 5 (04:18):
Defensively, we even have the defense on Week one, you myself,
Corey Legit, Brandon Mebaine who just won the Super Bowl,
Melvin Ingram, we had Joey Bosa coming in there, Verett Flowers.
We could go on and on. This is the last game, Like,
where is everybody?
Speaker 4 (04:35):
So this is.
Speaker 5 (04:35):
Something that has happened with the Chargers.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
Back when we were in San Diego.
Speaker 5 (04:39):
If they can do what they need to do to
stay healthy, guys, it's going to be something very very
It's gonna be a really good season for them because
Jim Harball knows what it takes to take them to
the finish line and they just got to trust that process.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
In the meantime, Kyle, Yeah, Harbot did this job. Like
last year was awesome.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
They fired the coach the year before, they bring in
the superstar and it completely worked. Eleven wins playoffs. Like
this is the Chargers. It's not the Chiefs.
Speaker 4 (05:04):
They had to crawl before they can walk and they
crawled last year. What's hasked to happen this year?
Speaker 1 (05:08):
This is very simple, like Justin Herbert needs to join
the conversation, and the conversation is all right, Maybe he
needs to join the club.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
You know the club. It's Mahomes, it's Allen, it's Burrow
and it's Lamar. That is the club. Where is Justin Herbert.
He's huge, he has a.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Massive arm, he's crazy talented, he's now very experienced in
the league. But he has to join the club this
year if they're going to really do something in the playoffs,
and he's going to have to join the club. After
one of the strangest, least talked about playoff performances of
the twenty first century, let's get into this.
Speaker 4 (05:38):
Last year, Justin Herbert was excellent.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Specifically excellent in taking care of the ball. He threw
three interceptions all season.
Speaker 4 (05:47):
And he threw four in one playoff game. That is insane.
I've never heard of that before.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
That ball was high, The first interception was terrible. It's
the kind of thing where in the social media era
and the era of optics and QB tears and rankings,
that is devastating. So a guy's reputation because here you
are in the biggest game of the year and you
played the worst game of your career. He's never had
a game in his life where he's thrown three interceptions.
Never he threw four in this game. And we're left,
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what do we do with Justin Herbert? After that, we
walk away and we're like, damn, Justin looked pretty tight
in that playoff game. Man, it didn't look like yourself
at all. So how are we supposed to judge you?
And what happens with that game is that was this
Saturday Afternoon Texans Classic. You know, it's wild Card weekend.
It's Saturday, there's a game after it on Saturday. There's
a bunch of games on Sunday. So by the time
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shows like us come on Monday morning, we're not talking
Chargers Texans anymore.
Speaker 4 (06:37):
It's just forgotten about Poof like it never happened.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
It did happen. It's not that it was bad, it's
that he was just so strange. I can't believe what.
Speaker 4 (06:45):
I just saw.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
Three interceptions in seventeen games and four in one game.
It leaves you to make your own conclusions about Herbert
anything you want he's not clutch. He choked, he tensed
up bright lights too much. Like I'm not ready to
subscribe to those things yet, But I can't tell you
for sure that they're all wrong Justin Herbert. All I
can tell you is he played this great regular last year.
So it's almost like we have to fast forward. I
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need to see Justin Herbert play a great playoff game
because I don't even want to address the other playoff
game you had against Jacksonville a few years ago. It's
not great you were an AFC quarterback in twenty twenty five.
The rest of your peers are the Avengers. They're amazing.
You have to do superhero stuff in superhero moments, and
he has not yet. So when he starts doing that,
maybe we'll have the conversation. But until them, Jim Harbaugh,
(07:29):
they could bring in a Vince Lambar.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
It doesn't matter.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
Herbert has to join the club, and right now he's
behind the velvet rope.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Well, to double down on that, Kyle, that not only
has he struggled in playoff relevancy just within his own
team or his division, it happens in Los Angeles as well.
When you inspect what the Rams have done since those
two started to share the same building in.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
Twenty twenty, it's been all Rams.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
About eleven months ago, this show got to do this
really awesome NBC special the night before the season began,
and it was at Sofi and the cast on the
show we took this cool golf cart into the belly
of Sofi Stadium and as you go down, you're looking
at this stunning mural of essentially everyone that's played played
Sofi Stadium who is an absolute rock star, and one
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of those people is Just Lombardi. There is a trophy
there and it's the Rams that hold this. I think
if twenty twenty five is going to look different for
the Chargers, it has to start with fighting for the
love and affection and care of the people that live
in Los Angeles or Southern California in general. The Chargers
have their fans and they're loyal, and that's great they
show up, But the Rams fans walk around town like.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
They're something to talk about.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Then rightfully so, because in the last five years things
have looked great for the Rams. So I look at
Los Angeles specifically, it's like you got to win your
hometown and in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
If you want it to look different, you got to
win and whatnot.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
But like the marketability of the team and the players
that are here. I think also there's some you got
to have walking money around town if you want to
be relevant. So okay, so AFC West, let's look at
them and Patrick Mahomes and the rest of the quarterbacks.
Kyle just mentioned the AFC guys. But if we look
at the West quarterbacks, here's the question at hand.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
Which AFC West quarterback?
Speaker 2 (09:07):
This is so great and I know Kyle loves playing
this game because he puts himself literally with the headset
on in the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
Okay, I'm gonna list him off.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
The AFC West quarterbacks, Gino Smith, Justin Herbert or bon Nicks.
You don't get to pick Patrick Mahomes. You don't get
to pick him in this scenario. We know what he
can do with the game on the line, So pick him,
Gino Smith, Justin Herbert Bonecks. Which quarterback man TI would
you pick with the game on the line? Take us
through the scenario, my.
Speaker 5 (09:31):
Friend, Okay, off the rip, I on to go Justin Herbert.
Then I started to talk about bone Knicks because of
bone Nick, Sean Payton and all of those game winning
drives that I saw Drew Brees and Sean Payton kind
of create while I was with the Saints. But guess what, guys,
I'm going to go Gino Smith. Did you know that
Gino Smith has twelve game winning drives since two thousand
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and two, is the second most behind Patrick Mahomes Jamie
And in the eight games in twenty twenty two to
twenty twenty three with Pete Carroll, he had eight game
winning drives, which is tied for first. Just on that alone, guys,
I didn't know that stat.
Speaker 4 (10:07):
Shoutout to our research team.
Speaker 5 (10:09):
I would go with mister Geno Smith because I think
he's going to be writing back on them Paters a
lot this year now that he's back to this old coach.
Speaker 4 (10:19):
Yeah, I don't know. We'll see.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
It's a new beginning. It's everything. There's very mysterious with
the Raiders. I wish for this question, technically Tom Brady's
Nasky West. I wish I could pick him, but he's tired.
I'd like to have him. This is this is a
tricky one because all right, so Herbert, it's the most talented.
Speaker 4 (10:36):
Maybe he's like the closest thing to like a star.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
But I just kind of was really cruel to him
in my comments based on his performance in the playoffs.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
How can I pick that.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Donald always has this yeah, but to him, you know,
like the last time we saw Donald it was not
great either.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
He looked very tense.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
He was all over the place, like, can we do
double Gino here? I actually think I'm gonna say Gino
Smith as well.
Speaker 4 (10:58):
I really am.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
Now, we haven't seen him with the Raiders, and it's
not like Devonte Adams is there with them.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
He's long gon but.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
Gino is sneaky good, and maybe it shouldn't be sneaky
anymore because he's been in the league a long time.
But he throws a beautiful ball. He doesn't seem to
bad his eyes at crunch time. I don't want Gino
to start an organization with, or any other arguments I
have to start a season.
Speaker 4 (11:20):
With, or I have to build around.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
I'm gonna go with Herbert, but fourth quarter right now
until justin Herbert does it better in late in the season,
and same thing with sam Donoald. Incredibly, I'm gonna have
this segment where I'm like, if I got to beat
the Chiefs late, and I got to pick one of
the other guys in that division. I'm gonna go with
the new quarterback with the Raiders.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Well, if you're gonna beat the Chiefs late, why not go?
Why can't either of you consider a quarterback that home
with the Chiefs last year and bow Knicks twice both games,
Sean Payton, bow next time does nothing.
Speaker 4 (11:50):
For you, Kyle, Yeah, no, it does. Listen. I like Nicks,
I do for sure, And.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
Listen, I thought he represented himself fine in that playoff game.
They got pretty much blown out on the end.
Speaker 4 (11:59):
But they showed up.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
They didn't embarrass themselves. Nixt looks great. Nix is one
of those like it's just trust we've I've been watching
Geno Smith. I feel like since I was like in college.
Speaker 4 (12:08):
It feels that way.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
Boon Knicks, I've seen him play one season. He's talented
as Peyton. I don't know, Jamie, there might be something
on that. There might be it's a little bit of
a riskier one. It's like hitting on sixteen, But I'm
going to I'm gonna stick with Gino. If you want
to go bow Knicks, I respect it.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
I was gonna go Boix because the fact that you
use that phrase. I've been watching bo Nick since Bonick
is in college for what felt.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
Like ten years.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
The guys has seventy playoffs, seventy college games at two
massive programs and was wildly competitive and two major conferences
in college football.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
The fact that he showed up.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
In Denver and absolutely hung didn't surprise me whatsoever. I
picked him as my Rookie of the Year offensively last year,
and he hung with Jane Daniels a little bit.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
Bonix in that conversation.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Okay, I'll spin it again, Kyle, spin the wheel again.
Take all the coaches in the AFT West, put the
headset on.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
You got a game winning drive.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Now you've got to pick one of these guys to
manufacture to come down and score a touchdown, go for
to and win the game. Do you anybody have an
immediate answer that comes to mind?
Speaker 4 (13:10):
Yeah? I always, I always. I ride with Harbaugh. That's
my guy.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
I ride with that Mannia every single time. Listen, all
the coaches are amazing like this. All four coaches in
the division are either in the Hall of Fame already
or might be someday depending on what they do here.
But like I will always go with wild Man Harbor.
Let's not forget like a year ago the Chargers that
it was, it was low down, and now Brandon Staley
was gone. They were not looking promising at all, and
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now eleven wins like it was nothing. I will always
go with Harball, but there's arguments for everybody.
Speaker 4 (13:37):
Yeah, I like Harboll. Do you think about Pete Carroll?
I don't know about you just agreed on no no, no,
no no, I.
Speaker 5 (13:43):
Said, I do like Harball, but I'm going to go
with Sean Payne. And the reason why I'm going to
go to Sempayne because I got to see it live
in person on sideline with him and Drew just being
mad scientists with this guys. It was so dialed in.
Our two minute drill was so dialed in. I can't
tell you how dialed in it was until you would
go there on a Saturday during a Saturday walk through
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before or the game, and there was no need to talk.
Like Drew Brees just ran the whole thing because it
was like second nature to him, like this is just.
Speaker 4 (14:11):
Something we did. Now.
Speaker 5 (14:12):
Speaking about Champagne, he was the best at situational awareness.
We planned and prepared for every single situation that would
come up in the game, especially late in the game.
So I do like where KB went, But I got
to go with Champagne.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
Oh man, that's a hard one.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
I don't even want to lend my hands who I
would pick. I was trying to stand defensive for bow Nicks.
Now I can't, and I might go Andy Reid if
I had to put the cap on and the headset,
I might go Andy Reid in that circumstances. Well, can
you imagine if any one of those guys had Justin
Jefferson on their team. Just think about that for a second.
They cannot.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
He does not live within the AFC.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
He is an NFC superstar and ay an NFL superstar
in Minnesota Vikings wide receiver turn twenty six last month.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
Is he already the.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Greatest wide receiver of all time?
Speaker 3 (14:54):
Are we doing that? There's a Hall of Famer that
messed around.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
And mentioned that this weekend, Kyle Randy Moss put Justin
Jefferson ahead of him potentially on this list, And now,
of course we're gonna.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
Talk about it, and also we're gonna talk about I'm
gonna use the word villain Dominicinsoue was one of the
great villains. And I say that as a compliment, not
a bad guy or anything, but there's a certain character
that he represented in the league.
Speaker 4 (15:17):
He made a lot of people angry, he made a
lot of quarterbacks angry. He did some really really ferocious things.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
And it looks like he is done. I'm gonna missing Dominicanson.
We're gonna look at his top ten plays, or at
least the ones that were allowed to still show on
the NFL network, and there's a lot that we aren't
and Dominicansoux talk after this.
Speaker 4 (15:33):
We're looking back to be a great show. Good mon football.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
We got two topics on sound deck.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
First, we're going to talk about one of the if
not the most talented wide receivers in the game.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
Just ask one of his mentors.
Speaker 6 (15:55):
Big fan of Justin's, you know, and the reason why
because I've always been a fan of a complete football
player where you can score from anywhere on the field,
and just and brings that to the table. I think
in our position is not about the yards. The yards
is what gets you the likes and the hearts and
all of that. But if you want to really be legendary,
This is speaking for all wide receivers, not just Justin Jefferson.
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You got to find ways to get in that end
zone and bring the fans out of the stands, out
of their seats. But to answer your question, Michael, I
think Justin Jefferson is on pace to be arguably the
greatest ever and definitely the greatest biking to ever do it.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
First time of my three years on the show TMZ
Sports with our Randy Moss commentary on Justin Jefferson.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
Thank you TMZ sports Man.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
Ta your thoughts on Randy Moss really putting Justin Jefferson
squarely ahead of himself in that wide receiver conversation.
Speaker 4 (16:42):
Well, it's hard enough to argue that, Jamie. It really is.
Speaker 5 (16:44):
I mean you think about all his performances and all
the stats that he's rocked up. He set the record
for yards. I think at this point this segment is
called going for Two. It's a two memories. It's between
him and Jamar Chase, his former teammate. If you talk
about the two receivers in this league that are the
most dominant, it's between those two. Now, it does support
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the debate with Jamar Chase, because Randy did say you
have to get in the end zone, and Justin Jefferson
leads in all categories except for getting in the end zone.
Jamar Chase leads the NFL and getting an the end zone.
But this is one thing that's going to stand out
for me going into this season. One thing I love
about Justin Jefferson is after he got paid that big contract,
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his tenacity didn't change. His competitive greatness, didn't change, his
attention to detail, his leadership, all of those things, his
willingness and want to win.
Speaker 4 (17:37):
It didn't change.
Speaker 5 (17:37):
How many times guys have we seen these receivers or
any player in general in the NFL get these big
contracts that changes the life of them and their entire family,
and then they come in the next year and it's
just flat. It doesn't look the same. That's going to
say a lot about Jamar Chase. Now, I me watching
Jamar Chase and being a fan of Jamar Chase and
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Justin Jefferson, I think it's going to be the same
thing for both of them. They're going to come in
after a big contract and just compete even more. I
think it's a two man race. By It's hard to
argue against Randy Moss. When you consider all that Justin
Jefferson has done in this NFL, in the league in
such a short amount of time.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
Well, first of all, it's great to see Randy. Randy's
been going through a lot. He hasn't been in the
public guy very much. It's just great to see him
on camera looking good and sounding like himself, let alone
saying something as magnanimous as he just said about Justin Jefferson.
To that point, though, I gotta say, Randy, I love you.
Slow the hell down. Let's take it easy. Let's take
it easy on these young guys. I hate hearing about
on pace to this and everybody in this era is
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on pace to do something Randy Moss. They would grab him,
they would driple team them, they would hit the quarterback.
Speaker 4 (18:40):
After he throws.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
Different era, different sport almost entirely.
Speaker 4 (18:43):
So I don't really think it's apples to apples.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
But the key to Justin Jefferson and what he gonna do,
I mean, we're gonna watch Randy Moss here.
Speaker 4 (18:50):
The key to what Randy was so good at it.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
He was so talented, but he also had guys who
could hawk the ball. He comes into the league and
it's Randall Cunningham.
Speaker 4 (18:59):
He goes to jeff George Dante Culpepper.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
Even when he went to the Raider, Brat Johnson, a
guy on the Super Bowl.
Speaker 4 (19:05):
Even when he went.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
To the Raiders, his quarterback was Kerry Collins, was a
really experienced veteran. And finally he goes to New England,
it's Tom Brady and by that point he's a first
ballot Hall of Famer. I'm looking at Jefferson now, Jefferson
going to his third quarterback in three years, and we
don't know if JJ McCarthy's good.
Speaker 4 (19:21):
We have no idea.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
So justin Jefferson has all the talents and the ability,
and he's playing in the right air to shatter every record,
but it's going to depend on his quarterbacks.
Speaker 4 (19:30):
That again, is why Jamar Chase has a massive advantage
over him.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
Jamar Chase indefinitely is gonna play with Joe Burrow, not only.
Speaker 4 (19:37):
His college quarterback, but Jefferson's as well.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
It's almost unfair if you had to pick one right now,
you think it's gonna put up bigger numbers over the
next six seasons. I'll pick Jamar every single time because
I know Burrow can play. I don't know if JJ
can play. I don't know if JJ is going to
be there in two years. It's the quarterback. When you
look at these guys, so many of the people, even
to fifty different quarterbacks and all these different teams, and
then you look at the true, true, true goat who's
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miles away from ever Jerry right, it was just Montana
for years and then into young and then all the
later years. Who cares about that. You find your guy
and you stick with him. Jamar has his guy. Rice
found different or rather most found different guys. I don't
know if Jefferson has this guy. I hope he does,
and he'll do fine even of those out But to
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do Randy Moss things, you got to find your guy,
and his success will depend on a lot on JJ McCarthy.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
Kyle, I'm glad you mentioned some of those other names
because it begs a question. Unfortunately for you, Kyle, you've
kind of become our historian a TI just because of
the age difference between the three of us on GMTB.
And I say that with love, and I say that lately, Kyle,
when you look at the wide receivers, whether it be
the Jerry Reis or any muss. Do you feel like
the position has changed to the point where you can't
(20:50):
really put it's like apples and oranges, or do you
can you put these guys into one pot right now
and truly compare them from your time.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
Watching the NFL.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
I think you can compare the ability, and that's really fun.
I don't like comparing the statistical stuff.
Speaker 4 (21:04):
Don't like.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
And I look at all these guys who have so
much respect for like by the way, Jamie, I, I'm
completely secure being the historian and completely secure with how
old I am, Like I watched Chris Carter play in
my dad's couch.
Speaker 4 (21:16):
I watch you name It and anybody andre A.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
Reid, all of these incredible Hall of famers who I
grew up watching, and like, we're so eager.
Speaker 4 (21:23):
To say they're the best. Jefferson's that, Jefferson's great.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
Slow the bleep down on his saying he's gonna be
better than Randy Moss. Come on, Randy Moss is just done.
We're not like we're comparing him to Wayite Tiddle. I
would be happy to stand up for those guys, because again,
I don't think it's styles and talent, sure, but production,
it's a very different thing, guys, very.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
Different man said, does it dilute for you at all?
Justin Jefferson's ability to make it on this greatest wide
Receiver of All Time list, the fact that he does
have to play with all these different quarterbacks.
Speaker 5 (21:55):
I think it dilutes it a little bit for him,
just because to Kyle's point, when you have somebody like
Joe Burrow and Jamar Chase throwing out, I mean.
Speaker 4 (22:04):
Watch the quarterback documentary. Yes, watch what.
Speaker 5 (22:06):
They're saying to each other, Like I knew you were
going to do this, so I threw the ball on
your inside shoulder because only I knew Jamar Chase likes
to do yards aft to catch, and I signal to
you in the back of the end zone and you change.
They just can read each other's minds and that's just
what you build throughout years and years of playing together.
I mean, justin Jefferson, Kirk Cousins, Sam Darnold, and he's
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gonna have JJ McCarthy, Like, these are three different quarterbacks
in such a short amount of time. So it's not
only how does this guy throw the ball, but it's
more so JJ McCarthy, do you know how Justin Jefferson
likes the ball when he's running a certain route. Do
you know that he likes the back shoulder instead of
a jump ball? Like those are the types of things
where that Joe Burrow and Jamar chase they don't have
to talk about their parents.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
Are tailgating in the parking lot. Do you have a
lot of things figured out be on the football field exactly.
Speaker 4 (22:52):
Well, that's why it's funny.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
They have so much chemistry and they have their little
pinky handshake that they do, and they appear to be
best friends, and their parents are best friends.
Speaker 4 (22:59):
Terara Loans and none of the McNabb were not speaking.
It's a totally different.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
Thing chasing each other on the sideline, I mean arguments
in the middle of the game and then going out
and putting up huge numbers. It's changed a lot, And
I think if there was a Netflix show following Ron
Donovan McNabb, I think there would have been a different interaction.
There's so many people to throw out here, and like
I've never seen like a four or five year period
better played by wide receiver than Antonio Brown, who also
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had huge issues. And like there's a lot of guys
here It's not just the next big thing in Neon
lighter whoever's on Netflix. When you say like greatest wide
Receiver ever, that is its own show, not its own segments.
Speaker 4 (23:34):
So I just want as money names represented as possible.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
Okay, the segment is called going for two. We have
to follow suit. This is our second topic here, and
forgive me. We are entering wrestling territory. Forty nine ers
sight end. George Kittle was at a golf tournament that
we were talking about all at the end of last week,
and he greeted a friend of our show, WWE superstar
The Miz.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
Apparently we have it. Take a look Diddle and the Miz.
Speaker 4 (23:56):
I don't know that i'd want to be on the
wrong end of this with either of these guys.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
Oh wow, it's tough in there in the squared circle.
Speaker 4 (24:09):
That's pretty impressive stuff. I don't think this is done
yet between these two.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
Okay, well, now you to go to that picture right away.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
I can't even comment about that.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
That's our guy, Kyle Brandt looking so dapper. I was
confused actually to check under the hood to make sure
that it was him under that cap. There Saratoga Kyle
brand making the appearance MANSI, who do you think it
a better weekend? Kyle at Saratoga or George Kittle at
that golf tournament in Tahoe.
Speaker 5 (24:36):
Well, listen, I don't know where it was going with
the whole theme, but I saw George Kittle and the
Miz and I'm like, man, if.
Speaker 4 (24:42):
I could just do that with a rock and do
a rock bottom on them.
Speaker 5 (24:45):
But then I saw KB looking like smooth criminal do the.
Speaker 4 (24:48):
Lean KB say if I had to debate Jamil.
Speaker 5 (24:51):
Gott to be our brother, KB looking smooth over there?
Speaker 3 (24:54):
Kyle, what's going on here? Talk to us about this?
Speaker 1 (24:56):
Well, the Rappaport's just kind of run the equestrian world
like it's hashtag access. I went with Ian and Leah
and I brought my wife and it was a nice
family three hour drive this weekend. There we are up
to Saratoga and I am only a guest in the
equine world.
Speaker 4 (25:12):
But the answer to this question.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
Is by far, I had a better weekend. Like to me,
Kittle in the mis, I think that's just like a
Tuesday for them.
Speaker 4 (25:19):
I think they do that stuff all the time.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
This is me, you know, I cashed in my nordstrum
gift card, and I got myself a new suit, you know,
and I dressed up and everything. This guy's like this
could just be them, like in their backyard. That's how
those guys hang. There's a very special weekend for me. Now,
I did picking it up over my head and I
gave him a root awakening, but we didn't have it
on camera, so I'm sorry.
Speaker 4 (25:39):
I should have provided the video.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
But he in took it like a champ, and as
always the Rapport's incredible host.
Speaker 4 (25:44):
I look pretty classy that weekend, though, you did?
Speaker 2 (25:47):
Is that a wrestling move? Is there a wrestling move
called rude awakening? Because I'm hearing that I would have
just called that like a kick to the face. But
apparently that move is called sweet chin music or something.
But is root awakening a wrestling move?
Speaker 3 (25:58):
What is it?
Speaker 4 (25:59):
Yeah? Ravishing Rick Rude.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
Well, I won't imitate him here on camera or I'll
put somebody's eye out, but he yeah, he would like
do like a neck breaker, and I did one on
rap sheet. We went out on the infield. We got
ejected from the track.
Speaker 4 (26:09):
It was terrible.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
We're banned for life, but it was worth it. I
just wish I had video. I'm sorry, Ian, thank you
for hosting us.
Speaker 3 (26:15):
Oh my gosh, that's fantastic.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
If you could pick, would you go to Tahoe or
to Saratoga with those guys.
Speaker 5 (26:20):
I'll go to Saratoga. I'm going to hang with KB
because we was hanging together, Jamie. Yeah, I think we
out of all of them, we had the better.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
My oldest turned six and the Tao family came over
for an ice cream cake that had a princess in
the middle of it. So that's what we were doing
over the weekend. But everybody else looked quite dapper, and
they were hanging out of Tahoe and Saratoga. We were
just literally wrangling children out of a swimming pool to
get home. That's everybody's weekend looks a little different.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
I guess.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
We're back on GMFB for news around the league. Cleveland
Brown's rookie running back quinch On Judkins was arrested on
Saturday in Broward County, Florida. Judkins was charged with misdemeanor
domestic violence. In a statement obtained by NFL Network insider
Tom Pilasaro, an NFL spokesperson said, quote, we are aware
of the matter, but.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
Will decline to further comment.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
Tellus Sarah reporting that battery was determined to have taken
place according to preliminary investigations Judkins. Judkins posted bond on
Sunday and is pending trial. Judkins has not signed with
the Browns after being selected with the thirty six overall
pick in the second round in last April's NFL Draft. Elsewhere,
NFL Network insider Ian Rappaport reporting that Chargers rookie wide
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receiver Trey Harris is holding out of training camp. The
second round pick did not report to camp on Saturday
with the rest of the rookies and this could become
a trend. Rappaport adding that thirty of the thirty.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
Two second round picks have yet to.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
Sign their rookie deals over a disagreement on guaranteed money.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
And there has been no shortage.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
Of hype on the expectations for Jaguars rookie Travis Hunter.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
On both sides of the ball.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
His quarterback Trevor Lawrence Blake's when he's seen so far
from the number two overall pick, Lawrence.
Speaker 3 (28:01):
Telling WJXT quote, Travis has.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
Been great, his work ethic, how he's come in, He's
been one of the hardest working guys. We have Jaguars rookies.
They report a training camp this Saturday. When we return
on GMFB. We got to look back at one of
the most intimidating and electric players on the field.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
It's Daminican Sue. He's called it a career and we're
going to take a look.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
Good Mont moll and Dominican Sioue is walking away after
thirteen seasons and a Super Bowl ring, Mister Sue, as
he was.
Speaker 4 (28:37):
Once called, announced his retirement. In a statement.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
The five time All Pro said he left it all
on the field, and now I'm stepping away with peace
and gratitude. I have a lot of really good memories
of Ndominkan Sioue twenty ten draft number two overall pick
out of Nebraska, where he looked like he was the
best player in the country, mean, ferocious strong. We'll have
some reflections on the back end of this. In the meantime,
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here are some memories from mister Sue in the NFL.
Speaker 7 (29:05):
I've got a guy who's given and given and given
to this game. And Murray is dropped buying Dona can soon.
Speaker 4 (29:14):
Anytime a defensive lineman gets on the inside right there.
Speaker 8 (29:17):
He's in control and that's a great counter by Sue
and able to secure the slippery Kyler Murray.
Speaker 4 (29:24):
The hand placement sets it off. Oh raid a third
down of the bar.
Speaker 7 (29:31):
Opra nah hols loose picked up by Fairly and it's
a touchdown and Donakins stripped it man fairly into the zone.
Speaker 5 (29:47):
You're gonna see the inside pressure coming here of the
athleticism can only hold him out so long.
Speaker 4 (29:57):
Don't an't find everybody go and Domakin Sue.
Speaker 8 (30:02):
Look at that strength just with wood, He's able to
beat Andre Smith around the edge.
Speaker 4 (30:07):
Extremely consistent, very durable.
Speaker 8 (30:11):
He's made an impact in every single game this season
for the Lions.
Speaker 9 (30:16):
Redskin's best taken all the way press Shaw Rose for
the his head loose ball.
Speaker 4 (30:21):
It's a lot fall recovered by the Lions. That double
Konsue touchdown. They want him to step up back.
Speaker 9 (30:27):
There's a hit from Bannon Box the sack knocking the
ball out.
Speaker 4 (30:34):
Our penalty on Buffalo is there. Twelfth of the game.
At speaking of Sue, he gets to Taylor.
Speaker 8 (30:39):
There you see right there, coming right up the just
man handles the guard John Miller went right through Miller
to get to Tyrod Taylor. That's what endamakan. Sue looks
like Spiro when he is determined, and this is maybe
what people want from him on every single play. Hard
to do it when you're being double team and triple team.
But when he gets a one on one blocker, he
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destroys the competition to get to.
Speaker 4 (31:03):
The quarterbows the ball and then the Bunccaneers come up
with it into thirty yard line and Domican Sue.
Speaker 9 (31:20):
He knocked it loose.
Speaker 7 (31:23):
And the Tomansiders He's done throughout.
Speaker 4 (31:26):
The course of his career, remarkably.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
Comes up with the play of the day.
Speaker 9 (31:37):
Under pressure, loses the ball and it's picked up by
Oakland by new House, and the new House loses the
ball and a whole bunch of Dolphin jerseys of there
in Miami hassard. So they avoided disaster. It was Sue
who busted it up the play. He is slow in
getting up, he is shaken up. He'll go to the bench,
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but Miami winds up with the ball.
Speaker 10 (32:03):
Wow, Marray five catches fifty one yards in his first
half breeze in trouble down it goes.
Speaker 4 (32:11):
That's Sue.
Speaker 10 (32:13):
Dominican Sue coming off his best game.
Speaker 4 (32:15):
By a mile.
Speaker 10 (32:17):
She turned in last Saturday against the Cowboys, he gets
the first sack.
Speaker 5 (32:21):
Yeah, he's able to work against Andres Pete.
Speaker 4 (32:24):
He gets right past.
Speaker 10 (32:25):
Him and that's the first sack.
Speaker 4 (32:29):
Of the game.
Speaker 10 (32:32):
Ready, second down and sixteen breeze rockers in his face
and he's not alone. Sue again, Dante Fowler. There as well,
three guys combined to bring down breeze back to back
plays with a sack.
Speaker 5 (32:50):
Hill out.
Speaker 6 (32:51):
Now, if you're the Rams with the trade.
Speaker 7 (32:53):
Deadline on the nineteenth, you'd still go out and try to.
Speaker 9 (32:55):
Get a guy like a Vincent Jackson from San Diego
Netball ticked up the hitter.
Speaker 7 (33:00):
Sucond and Dombakan sue a second pickle.
Speaker 3 (33:04):
For all.
Speaker 4 (33:07):
Comes up with a big plane. Domican sue, you don't
think he has some motivation in this game? Trying to
show the Rams.
Speaker 8 (33:13):
Hey, I know Bradford's great, but you guys should have
taken meet number one.
Speaker 4 (33:17):
He gives himself the assist with the tip and then
shows some of that athleticism they got him drafted number two.
Gonna be an outstanding player, already playing.
Speaker 5 (33:26):
At a high level.
Speaker 4 (33:27):
Three sacks on the season, now his first career interception
and they've got him again.
Speaker 11 (33:39):
I ma homes just trying to find somebody has to
eat it and just take the sack.
Speaker 4 (33:44):
Just five minutes remaining.
Speaker 3 (33:50):
What it hits.
Speaker 4 (33:51):
Ball is out recovered by Kansas City, but.
Speaker 8 (33:54):
Maholmes is just hammered by Endomican Sue.
Speaker 11 (34:00):
A play that typifies the knight for this Tampa Bay defense.
I try and get a big play down the field
a hill, but it takes forever, and he's trying to see.
Speaker 3 (34:08):
Him right there.
Speaker 4 (34:10):
Cam Gillman on him too.
Speaker 11 (34:13):
Just trying to do anything to help his team and
take him a huge shot.
Speaker 3 (34:19):
That was electric.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
I could watch fifty of those plays, and I said
to Manti.
Speaker 3 (34:24):
Sue's one arm perhaps stronger.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
Than like seventy five percent of the male population at
this point. Ridiculous career accomplishments for Endamakan Sue the second
overall pick back in twenty ten, Kyle Manti. Cool to
watch those plates from back, Manti?
Speaker 3 (34:41):
What you got in Sue?
Speaker 4 (34:42):
Manny. You could go on and on about his highlights.
Speaker 5 (34:44):
You could even go back to his college days and
watch those highlights, you know, talk about his college days
for those who don't know he was a Heisman finalist
as a d lineman. Yeah, like that is just unheard of.
Like that just goes to show how dominant he was
and just to be able to watch him.
Speaker 4 (34:58):
Throughout his career.
Speaker 5 (34:59):
I too had an opportunity to meet no Dominkin a
little bit.
Speaker 4 (35:03):
I ran into him at the Oregon.
Speaker 5 (35:06):
The Nike facilities out there, and kind of like kb's
and Connor with the Bantia Adams, He's one of the
most kind hearted, soft spoken, grounded guys. I think he
gets a bad rep based on some of the antics
that happened on the football field, but when I talked
to him, the guy was just one of the best
human beings, most kind hearted human beings. But later on
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in the show jam I got a top five most
intimidating guys uh huh that I played against Nadaminkin, Sue
was one of them in the entire.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
NFL saw that was yes, Kyle real quick to follow
up on that story from Mansai Back in two sixteen seventeen,
I'm sideline reporter for CBS and I have a game. Frankly,
watching those highlights, I had forgotten how many teams Sue
played for, so I must have had a RAMS game.
I believe it was, and I'm nervous to go into
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this production meeting and sit with Sue and get to
know a.
Speaker 3 (35:59):
Little bit better.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
Long story short, my in laws are huge Nebraska and
Husker fans, and that year Nebraska had gone to Oregon
for like that week one game, Labor Day weekend, and
my strange father in law I was wearing a legitimately
orange shirt with corn husks of corn on it, a
button down, and he meets Sue, who also was off
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that week, so he went to watch the game, interacts
with him about climate change of all things under this
tent at a tailgate. And weeks later I say, oh,
my family went to the Oregon game. I actually my
father in law, you know, had a conversation with you.
He's like, yeah, the strange guy with the corn Husker shirt.
Speaker 1 (36:37):
Out, how do you remember that.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
He's so down to earth, so genuine loves everything about football,
great memory, good dude, Kyle, and a hell of a
football player.
Speaker 4 (36:46):
Yeah, hi, IQ guy.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
He's famously friends with Warren Buffett and likes to talk
about investments and things like that. Listen on the field,
he was a wrestling heel and.
Speaker 4 (36:55):
He had a reputation.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
Because he earned the reputation, Domican Sue is on the line.
I have to say, guys, I know why we showed
the highlight reel. We just showed them making strips and
all that stuff. But that highlight reel was like watching
Goodfellas on TNT. It's not really the same movie. It's
highly different. Okay, that was not the movie that I
saw in the theater. I remember and Dominican Sue as
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a rookie coming to with Detroit and damn near ripping
Jake Dellom's head off. I think I might have even
been in a preseason game, like he was fierce. I
remember him stepping on Aaron Rodgers with his cleats, maybe accidental,
probably not, and Rogers like punched him like in the hindquarters.
Like Rogers had a lot of run ins with Sue.
He was this guy who enlightened, thoughtful off the field,
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very intelligent, but on the field, like on the line,
over the line, and I'm an estalgised I missed those players.
I think we need those players sometimes. But he did
some really real, really brutal, dicey stuff and that was
part of what made him cool. There was a theatrical
part to it where he was quote unquote evil as
a football player and didn't care about being nice.
Speaker 4 (38:00):
I'll miss that and there's just not much of that anymore.
Speaker 2 (38:03):
It did it ring true for you watching the highlights
how many different organizations he was impactful on, and like
the Highlights is wild and the divisions that he was
absolutely a menace with him.
Speaker 1 (38:13):
Yeah, it's a lot like you know Genevian Clowney or
even Julio Jones, where like it's this big name you
just bring in, but he was just this defensive tackle,
so you could bring him make a couple of plays
and he would always show up every single year. I'm
still not he's one of these got them all still
not convince he still retired.
Speaker 4 (38:27):
All right.
Speaker 1 (38:28):
There's him and Rogers and like Rogers, I do not
think will have nice things to say about him if
he's ever asked about.
Speaker 4 (38:33):
Him this week or this summer. Like they did not
get along.
Speaker 1 (38:35):
It was a long time Green Bay Detroit thing, way
before Detroit was cool like and domic It was on
some really bad Lions teams, but it was a lot
of this and there was a lot of after the
whistle and a lot.
Speaker 4 (38:46):
I would love to.
Speaker 1 (38:47):
Hear Rodgers reflect on him, because normally Rogers likes that
stuff right there. He likes the back and forth. He's
talked about it with guys like irlac R. I love
the conversations. But I'm telling you there's a play you
can look up where and dom Can stepped on him
with his cleats and it looked like it really hurt.
And there's just a lot of it that went on.
And again I just keep saying it like he's gone
a legend. I already missed kind of what he stood for.
Speaker 2 (39:06):
The amazing thing is that we just had those ten
plays and we have this vast vault of NFL plays.
Yet the imagery that Kyle is trying to paint, all
we have is still pictures of Rogers and Sue because like,
don't show the clips, but we can show them kind
of interacting in the football field. That was awesome and
Damikasu after her, Yeah, can you please stop knocking.
Speaker 4 (39:25):
Out like friends?
Speaker 3 (39:26):
Uh don't.
Speaker 4 (39:29):
Yeah, it's like.
Speaker 1 (39:30):
We're gonna do We're gonna do run our test top
ten plays here, some shooting free throws.
Speaker 4 (39:34):
Like what do we do with guys? It's a different
type of player we know, the real ones know.
Speaker 2 (39:40):
I have to assume the American Century Championship is proud
of what they accomplished over the weekend in terms of
its charitable efforts, but also the fact that we've been
talking about it all morning and the guys that were
there and Tahoe over the weekend, big names that gave
us some splashy golf and antics to talk about, which
is really fun. Manta, do you have a sporting event
or Kyle, that you have dreams of attending sporting event?
Speaker 3 (40:03):
Participat off the bat.
Speaker 5 (40:06):
I think I would love to. I always wanted to
be part of the Olympics. Yeah, it's some sort of fact,
some way or for him. I don't know what it is.
Speaker 4 (40:13):
I would.
Speaker 5 (40:13):
I just always thought to go to Olympics and see
the best of the best be able to compete.
Speaker 4 (40:18):
And run and jump, play volleyball back.
Speaker 5 (40:21):
I don't know what it is, but something about the Olympics,
I just felt like I was always doing too so
total I'd always always want to go Olympics.
Speaker 1 (40:26):
Kyle coleege, Well, that's a very dignified classy. I would
want to go with those imbeciles chasing the cheese down
the hill in England.
Speaker 4 (40:33):
You've ever seen those guys.
Speaker 1 (40:34):
They go in this place, in the stop of this
hill and they hold like a ten pound thing of
cheese down the hill, and then these morons just chase
it and go head over heels.
Speaker 4 (40:43):
They slide down on their bucks. Look at those guy.
Speaker 1 (40:45):
Guys got a superman outfit on pulling from the headlines.
Speaker 4 (40:48):
I've always wanted to try this.
Speaker 1 (40:49):
I remember I was watching Sports Center once and Scott
dan Pelt covered it and he had video and he
couldn't get through the report because he was laughing so hard.
That's what I want to do right there. Mantai can
go to the Olympics. They have some history in the Olympics.
I guess this is mine right here.
Speaker 2 (41:02):
Is that not the same one call where they have
that stick and they're trying to guide it down the hill.
Speaker 3 (41:06):
Is that the same thing?
Speaker 2 (41:08):
Or is that just them chasing a wheel of cheese.
Speaker 1 (41:10):
There's no stick, there's just booze and idiots A different thing.
Speaker 4 (41:14):
I think I think KP would win that. KB get the.
Speaker 2 (41:17):
Cheese, KB, sing the cheese down the hill. Nothing more
motivating to put it onto a pasta your pizza doesn't
matter if It comes with the topping of cheese, let's
go chase after that wheel keep better, boys,
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Speaker 2 (00:11):
Morning Football on a Monday, Monday, July fourteenth. In fact,
Jamie ear at All, Mance, I'd say, Kyle Brandt, he's
in New York City, Kyle. I have a sweet gift
for you this week, and it's your ability to speak
over football players on a field and just talk openly.
It's like live action voiceover of football.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
It's real.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
The Chargers of rookies have reported your thoughts.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Well, I just want raw, live videotape of guys stretching,
touching their toes and having conversation, and I want the
production booth to tell us to talk over it for
eight straight minutes. That's what we do every single summer.
And if we're doing it today, I'm dancing to Jake.
Let's go, Let's go.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
The Chargers are in all thirty two. We're talking about you.
Roland Good that's right, g MF B.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Kyle Brandt, Mantaiteo, Jamie ear at All here, Mantai. If
you're a rookie, you've already been through a rookie mini camp.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
You're getting to know your guys. Then the veterans show up.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Is there a nervousness that young guys feel like, well,
I'm already the man, and then the actual man walks in.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
Yeah, you're still a little boy.
Speaker 5 (01:24):
You feel like the man until Philip Rivers walks in keenan.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
Now you know what. It just it's the way that
the circle of life happens. Ah, it's that part of
the year.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
It is that part of the year which we are
projecting upon teams that we are trying. We hope great
things for all the teams in the NFL, specifically maybe
our neighbors here in Los Angeles across the way at
SOFI Stadium.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
It's one of the chart one of the teams.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
The Chargers play there every weekend and they're head coach
Jim Harbaugh and the Chargers are the first to open
training camp. But attendance, that's kind of a loose way
to put it, is not perfect because the veterans have
yet to report which happens on Wednesday, the Chargers second
round rookie wide receiver Trey Harris was not in the
rest of the squad on Saturday, the deadline for.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
The Chargers rookies.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
This according to NFL Network insider Ian Rappaport. Now, no
cause for concern is this since tends to be a
trend right now happening with the second round picks. But
that doesn't mean that the Chargers shouldn't care about those
young guys making sure they get their reps in before
the Vets arrive. Speaking of the Vets, Justin Herbert and
the rest of the crew. They won eleven games last season,
but they lost in the wild card round of the playoffs.
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They're often competitive, but they struggle to get over the
hump in January. What needs to happen this year, Mantai
for you to define the season to be truly different
for an LA Chargers team.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
Well, let's talk about what they did.
Speaker 5 (02:41):
There are some questions in regarding the interior part of
the offensive line. They need to add something there. Well,
they go and they sign Kaiy Becton, Super Bowl champ.
He's a refrigerator of a man, and you pair him
with Joe Alt and Slater and there they have now
one of the more dominant offensive lines going into this year.
And just that plays well with what Jim Harbaugh is
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trying to do with running the ball.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
Now, the thing that they do need to change.
Speaker 5 (03:06):
And this is something that they've been affected with since
I was with the Chargers. Is this injury bug that
seems to strike the Chargers throughout the year. You look
at the injuries from last year and this is just
the ir guys. I mean there were times when Justin
Herbert wasn't in the game.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
I mean, joe Al Slayer wasn't in the.
Speaker 5 (03:25):
Game, Joey Boso wasn't and you could even go back
to twenty twenty three when Keenan Allen was out, Austin
Eckler was out, Like, these are just key players consistently.
There's no consistency and there's no way that you can win.
Just look at what happened to the Lions when that
defense was just decimated last year for a good part
of the season. It's hard to win games when you
have all of those injuries. I remember when I was
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with the Chargers back in twenty sixteen, it was we
had a lineup Jamie going into Week one offensively and
defensively that could rival. This is the Week one offense
that we had Jamie and KB Like, just look at
we had Philip Rivers, Dannywood had Kyle An, we had guys,
this is the lineup going into the last game of
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that season. Look at the contrast, Look at the difference
between the guys. You still have Philip Rivers, But where's
everybody else?
Speaker 4 (04:16):
Yeah, and this is just offense.
Speaker 5 (04:18):
Defensively, we even have the defense on Week one, you myself,
Corey Legit, Brandon Mebaine who just won the Super Bowl,
Melvin Ingram, we had Joey Bosa coming in there, Verett Flowers.
We could go on and on. This is the last game, Like,
where is everybody?
Speaker 4 (04:35):
So this is.
Speaker 5 (04:35):
Something that has happened with the Chargers.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
Back when we were in San Diego.
Speaker 5 (04:39):
If they can do what they need to do to
stay healthy, guys, it's going to be something very very
It's gonna be a really good season for them because
Jim Harball knows what it takes to take them to
the finish line and they just got to trust that process.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
In the meantime, Kyle, Yeah, Harbot did this job. Like
last year was awesome.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
They fired the coach the year before, they bring in
the superstar and it completely worked. Eleven wins playoffs. Like
this is the Chargers. It's not the Chiefs.
Speaker 4 (05:04):
They had to crawl before they can walk and they
crawled last year. What's hasked to happen this year?
Speaker 1 (05:08):
This is very simple, like Justin Herbert needs to join
the conversation, and the conversation is all right, Maybe he
needs to join the club.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
You know the club. It's Mahomes, it's Allen, it's Burrow
and it's Lamar. That is the club. Where is Justin Herbert.
He's huge, he has a.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Massive arm, he's crazy talented, he's now very experienced in
the league. But he has to join the club this
year if they're going to really do something in the playoffs,
and he's going to have to join the club. After
one of the strangest, least talked about playoff performances of
the twenty first century, let's get into this.
Speaker 4 (05:38):
Last year, Justin Herbert was excellent.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Specifically excellent in taking care of the ball. He threw
three interceptions all season.
Speaker 4 (05:47):
And he threw four in one playoff game. That is insane.
I've never heard of that before.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
That ball was high, The first interception was terrible. It's
the kind of thing where in the social media era
and the era of optics and QB tears and rankings,
that is devastating. So a guy's reputation because here you
are in the biggest game of the year and you
played the worst game of your career. He's never had
a game in his life where he's thrown three interceptions.
Never he threw four in this game. And we're left,
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what do we do with Justin Herbert? After that, we
walk away and we're like, damn, Justin looked pretty tight
in that playoff game. Man, it didn't look like yourself
at all. So how are we supposed to judge you?
And what happens with that game is that was this
Saturday Afternoon Texans Classic. You know, it's wild Card weekend.
It's Saturday, there's a game after it on Saturday. There's
a bunch of games on Sunday. So by the time
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shows like us come on Monday morning, we're not talking
Chargers Texans anymore.
Speaker 4 (06:37):
It's just forgotten about Poof like it never happened.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
It did happen. It's not that it was bad, it's
that he was just so strange. I can't believe what.
Speaker 4 (06:45):
I just saw.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
Three interceptions in seventeen games and four in one game.
It leaves you to make your own conclusions about Herbert
anything you want he's not clutch. He choked, he tensed
up bright lights too much. Like I'm not ready to
subscribe to those things yet, But I can't tell you
for sure that they're all wrong Justin Herbert. All I
can tell you is he played this great regular last year.
So it's almost like we have to fast forward. I
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need to see Justin Herbert play a great playoff game
because I don't even want to address the other playoff
game you had against Jacksonville a few years ago. It's
not great you were an AFC quarterback in twenty twenty five.
The rest of your peers are the Avengers. They're amazing.
You have to do superhero stuff in superhero moments, and
he has not yet. So when he starts doing that,
maybe we'll have the conversation. But until them, Jim Harbaugh,
(07:29):
they could bring in a Vince Lambar.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
It doesn't matter.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
Herbert has to join the club, and right now he's
behind the velvet rope.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Well, to double down on that, Kyle, that not only
has he struggled in playoff relevancy just within his own
team or his division, it happens in Los Angeles as well.
When you inspect what the Rams have done since those
two started to share the same building in.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
Twenty twenty, it's been all Rams.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
About eleven months ago, this show got to do this
really awesome NBC special the night before the season began,
and it was at Sofi and the cast on the
show we took this cool golf cart into the belly
of Sofi Stadium and as you go down, you're looking
at this stunning mural of essentially everyone that's played played
Sofi Stadium who is an absolute rock star, and one
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of those people is Just Lombardi. There is a trophy
there and it's the Rams that hold this. I think
if twenty twenty five is going to look different for
the Chargers, it has to start with fighting for the
love and affection and care of the people that live
in Los Angeles or Southern California in general. The Chargers
have their fans and they're loyal, and that's great they
show up, But the Rams fans walk around town like.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
They're something to talk about.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Then rightfully so, because in the last five years things
have looked great for the Rams. So I look at
Los Angeles specifically, it's like you got to win your
hometown and in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
If you want it to look different, you got to
win and whatnot.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
But like the marketability of the team and the players
that are here. I think also there's some you got
to have walking money around town if you want to
be relevant. So okay, so AFC West, let's look at
them and Patrick Mahomes and the rest of the quarterbacks.
Kyle just mentioned the AFC guys. But if we look
at the West quarterbacks, here's the question at hand.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
Which AFC West quarterback?
Speaker 2 (09:07):
This is so great and I know Kyle loves playing
this game because he puts himself literally with the headset
on in the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
Okay, I'm gonna list him off.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
The AFC West quarterbacks, Gino Smith, Justin Herbert or bon Nicks.
You don't get to pick Patrick Mahomes. You don't get
to pick him in this scenario. We know what he
can do with the game on the line, So pick him,
Gino Smith, Justin Herbert Bonecks. Which quarterback man TI would
you pick with the game on the line? Take us
through the scenario, my.
Speaker 5 (09:31):
Friend, Okay, off the rip, I on to go Justin Herbert.
Then I started to talk about bone Knicks because of
bone Nick, Sean Payton and all of those game winning
drives that I saw Drew Brees and Sean Payton kind
of create while I was with the Saints. But guess what, guys,
I'm going to go Gino Smith. Did you know that
Gino Smith has twelve game winning drives since two thousand
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and two, is the second most behind Patrick Mahomes Jamie
And in the eight games in twenty twenty two to
twenty twenty three with Pete Carroll, he had eight game
winning drives, which is tied for first. Just on that alone, guys,
I didn't know that stat.
Speaker 4 (10:07):
Shoutout to our research team.
Speaker 5 (10:09):
I would go with mister Geno Smith because I think
he's going to be writing back on them Paters a
lot this year now that he's back to this old coach.
Speaker 4 (10:19):
Yeah, I don't know. We'll see.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
It's a new beginning. It's everything. There's very mysterious with
the Raiders. I wish for this question, technically Tom Brady's
Nasky West. I wish I could pick him, but he's tired.
I'd like to have him. This is this is a
tricky one because all right, so Herbert, it's the most talented.
Speaker 4 (10:36):
Maybe he's like the closest thing to like a star.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
But I just kind of was really cruel to him
in my comments based on his performance in the playoffs.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
How can I pick that.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Donald always has this yeah, but to him, you know,
like the last time we saw Donald it was not
great either.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
He looked very tense.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
He was all over the place, like, can we do
double Gino here? I actually think I'm gonna say Gino
Smith as well.
Speaker 4 (10:58):
I really am.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
Now, we haven't seen him with the Raiders, and it's
not like Devonte Adams is there with them.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
He's long gon but.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
Gino is sneaky good, and maybe it shouldn't be sneaky
anymore because he's been in the league a long time.
But he throws a beautiful ball. He doesn't seem to
bad his eyes at crunch time. I don't want Gino
to start an organization with, or any other arguments I
have to start a season.
Speaker 4 (11:20):
With, or I have to build around.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
I'm gonna go with Herbert, but fourth quarter right now
until justin Herbert does it better in late in the season,
and same thing with sam Donoald. Incredibly, I'm gonna have
this segment where I'm like, if I got to beat
the Chiefs late, and I got to pick one of
the other guys in that division. I'm gonna go with
the new quarterback with the Raiders.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Well, if you're gonna beat the Chiefs late, why not go?
Why can't either of you consider a quarterback that home
with the Chiefs last year and bow Knicks twice both games,
Sean Payton, bow next time does nothing.
Speaker 4 (11:50):
For you, Kyle, Yeah, no, it does. Listen. I like Nicks,
I do for sure, And.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
Listen, I thought he represented himself fine in that playoff game.
They got pretty much blown out on the end.
Speaker 4 (11:59):
But they showed up.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
They didn't embarrass themselves. Nixt looks great. Nix is one
of those like it's just trust we've I've been watching
Geno Smith. I feel like since I was like in college.
Speaker 4 (12:08):
It feels that way.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
Boon Knicks, I've seen him play one season. He's talented
as Peyton. I don't know, Jamie, there might be something
on that. There might be it's a little bit of
a riskier one. It's like hitting on sixteen, But I'm
going to I'm gonna stick with Gino. If you want
to go bow Knicks, I respect it.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
I was gonna go Boix because the fact that you
use that phrase. I've been watching bo Nick since Bonick
is in college for what felt.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
Like ten years.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
The guys has seventy playoffs, seventy college games at two
massive programs and was wildly competitive and two major conferences
in college football.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
The fact that he showed up.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
In Denver and absolutely hung didn't surprise me whatsoever. I
picked him as my Rookie of the Year offensively last year,
and he hung with Jane Daniels a little bit.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
Bonix in that conversation.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Okay, I'll spin it again, Kyle, spin the wheel again.
Take all the coaches in the AFT West, put the
headset on.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
You got a game winning drive.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Now you've got to pick one of these guys to
manufacture to come down and score a touchdown, go for
to and win the game. Do you anybody have an
immediate answer that comes to mind?
Speaker 4 (13:10):
Yeah? I always, I always. I ride with Harbaugh. That's
my guy.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
I ride with that Mannia every single time. Listen, all
the coaches are amazing like this. All four coaches in
the division are either in the Hall of Fame already
or might be someday depending on what they do here.
But like I will always go with wild Man Harbor.
Let's not forget like a year ago the Chargers that
it was, it was low down, and now Brandon Staley
was gone. They were not looking promising at all, and
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now eleven wins like it was nothing. I will always
go with Harball, but there's arguments for everybody.
Speaker 4 (13:37):
Yeah, I like Harboll. Do you think about Pete Carroll?
I don't know about you just agreed on no no, no,
no no, I.
Speaker 5 (13:43):
Said, I do like Harball, but I'm going to go
with Sean Payne. And the reason why I'm going to
go to Sempayne because I got to see it live
in person on sideline with him and Drew just being
mad scientists with this guys. It was so dialed in.
Our two minute drill was so dialed in. I can't
tell you how dialed in it was until you would
go there on a Saturday during a Saturday walk through
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before or the game, and there was no need to talk.
Like Drew Brees just ran the whole thing because it
was like second nature to him, like this is just.
Speaker 4 (14:11):
Something we did. Now.
Speaker 5 (14:12):
Speaking about Champagne, he was the best at situational awareness.
We planned and prepared for every single situation that would
come up in the game, especially late in the game.
So I do like where KB went, But I got
to go with Champagne.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
Oh man, that's a hard one.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
I don't even want to lend my hands who I
would pick. I was trying to stand defensive for bow Nicks.
Now I can't, and I might go Andy Reid if
I had to put the cap on and the headset,
I might go Andy Reid in that circumstances. Well, can
you imagine if any one of those guys had Justin
Jefferson on their team. Just think about that for a second.
They cannot.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
He does not live within the AFC.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
He is an NFC superstar and ay an NFL superstar
in Minnesota Vikings wide receiver turn twenty six last month.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
Is he already the.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Greatest wide receiver of all time?
Speaker 3 (14:54):
Are we doing that? There's a Hall of Famer that
messed around.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
And mentioned that this weekend, Kyle Randy Moss put Justin
Jefferson ahead of him potentially on this list, And now,
of course we're gonna.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
Talk about it, and also we're gonna talk about I'm
gonna use the word villain Dominicinsoue was one of the
great villains. And I say that as a compliment, not
a bad guy or anything, but there's a certain character
that he represented in the league.
Speaker 4 (15:17):
He made a lot of people angry, he made a
lot of quarterbacks angry. He did some really really ferocious things.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
And it looks like he is done. I'm gonna missing Dominicanson.
We're gonna look at his top ten plays, or at
least the ones that were allowed to still show on
the NFL network, and there's a lot that we aren't
and Dominicansoux talk after this.
Speaker 4 (15:33):
We're looking back to be a great show. Good mon football.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
We got two topics on sound deck.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
First, we're going to talk about one of the if
not the most talented wide receivers in the game.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
Just ask one of his mentors.
Speaker 6 (15:55):
Big fan of Justin's, you know, and the reason why
because I've always been a fan of a complete football
player where you can score from anywhere on the field,
and just and brings that to the table. I think
in our position is not about the yards. The yards
is what gets you the likes and the hearts and
all of that. But if you want to really be legendary,
This is speaking for all wide receivers, not just Justin Jefferson.
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You got to find ways to get in that end
zone and bring the fans out of the stands, out
of their seats. But to answer your question, Michael, I
think Justin Jefferson is on pace to be arguably the
greatest ever and definitely the greatest biking to ever do it.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
First time of my three years on the show TMZ
Sports with our Randy Moss commentary on Justin Jefferson.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
Thank you TMZ sports Man.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
Ta your thoughts on Randy Moss really putting Justin Jefferson
squarely ahead of himself in that wide receiver conversation.
Speaker 4 (16:42):
Well, it's hard enough to argue that, Jamie. It really is.
Speaker 5 (16:44):
I mean you think about all his performances and all
the stats that he's rocked up. He set the record
for yards. I think at this point this segment is
called going for Two. It's a two memories. It's between
him and Jamar Chase, his former teammate. If you talk
about the two receivers in this league that are the
most dominant, it's between those two. Now, it does support
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the debate with Jamar Chase, because Randy did say you
have to get in the end zone, and Justin Jefferson
leads in all categories except for getting in the end zone.
Jamar Chase leads the NFL and getting an the end zone.
But this is one thing that's going to stand out
for me going into this season. One thing I love
about Justin Jefferson is after he got paid that big contract,
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his tenacity didn't change. His competitive greatness, didn't change, his
attention to detail, his leadership, all of those things, his
willingness and want to win.
Speaker 4 (17:37):
It didn't change.
Speaker 5 (17:37):
How many times guys have we seen these receivers or
any player in general in the NFL get these big
contracts that changes the life of them and their entire family,
and then they come in the next year and it's
just flat. It doesn't look the same. That's going to
say a lot about Jamar Chase. Now, I me watching
Jamar Chase and being a fan of Jamar Chase and
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Justin Jefferson, I think it's going to be the same
thing for both of them. They're going to come in
after a big contract and just compete even more. I
think it's a two man race. By It's hard to
argue against Randy Moss. When you consider all that Justin
Jefferson has done in this NFL, in the league in
such a short amount of time.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
Well, first of all, it's great to see Randy. Randy's
been going through a lot. He hasn't been in the
public guy very much. It's just great to see him
on camera looking good and sounding like himself, let alone
saying something as magnanimous as he just said about Justin Jefferson.
To that point, though, I gotta say, Randy, I love you.
Slow the hell down. Let's take it easy. Let's take
it easy on these young guys. I hate hearing about
on pace to this and everybody in this era is
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on pace to do something Randy Moss. They would grab him,
they would driple team them, they would hit the quarterback.
Speaker 4 (18:40):
After he throws.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
Different era, different sport almost entirely.
Speaker 4 (18:43):
So I don't really think it's apples to apples.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
But the key to Justin Jefferson and what he gonna do,
I mean, we're gonna watch Randy Moss here.
Speaker 4 (18:50):
The key to what Randy was so good at it.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
He was so talented, but he also had guys who
could hawk the ball. He comes into the league and
it's Randall Cunningham.
Speaker 4 (18:59):
He goes to jeff George Dante Culpepper.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
Even when he went to the Raider, Brat Johnson, a
guy on the Super Bowl.
Speaker 4 (19:05):
Even when he went.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
To the Raiders, his quarterback was Kerry Collins, was a
really experienced veteran. And finally he goes to New England,
it's Tom Brady and by that point he's a first
ballot Hall of Famer. I'm looking at Jefferson now, Jefferson
going to his third quarterback in three years, and we
don't know if JJ McCarthy's good.
Speaker 4 (19:21):
We have no idea.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
So justin Jefferson has all the talents and the ability,
and he's playing in the right air to shatter every record,
but it's going to depend on his quarterbacks.
Speaker 4 (19:30):
That again, is why Jamar Chase has a massive advantage
over him.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
Jamar Chase indefinitely is gonna play with Joe Burrow, not only.
Speaker 4 (19:37):
His college quarterback, but Jefferson's as well.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
It's almost unfair if you had to pick one right now,
you think it's gonna put up bigger numbers over the
next six seasons. I'll pick Jamar every single time because
I know Burrow can play. I don't know if JJ
can play. I don't know if JJ is going to
be there in two years. It's the quarterback. When you
look at these guys, so many of the people, even
to fifty different quarterbacks and all these different teams, and
then you look at the true, true, true goat who's
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miles away from ever Jerry right, it was just Montana
for years and then into young and then all the
later years. Who cares about that. You find your guy
and you stick with him. Jamar has his guy. Rice
found different or rather most found different guys. I don't
know if Jefferson has this guy. I hope he does,
and he'll do fine even of those out But to
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do Randy Moss things, you got to find your guy,
and his success will depend on a lot on JJ McCarthy.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
Kyle, I'm glad you mentioned some of those other names
because it begs a question. Unfortunately for you, Kyle, you've
kind of become our historian a TI just because of
the age difference between the three of us on GMTB.
And I say that with love, and I say that lately, Kyle,
when you look at the wide receivers, whether it be
the Jerry Reis or any muss. Do you feel like
the position has changed to the point where you can't
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really put it's like apples and oranges, or do you
can you put these guys into one pot right now
and truly compare them from your time.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
Watching the NFL.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
I think you can compare the ability, and that's really fun.
I don't like comparing the statistical stuff.
Speaker 4 (21:04):
Don't like.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
And I look at all these guys who have so
much respect for like by the way, Jamie, I, I'm
completely secure being the historian and completely secure with how
old I am, Like I watched Chris Carter play in
my dad's couch.
Speaker 4 (21:16):
I watch you name It and anybody andre A.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
Reid, all of these incredible Hall of famers who I
grew up watching, and like, we're so eager.
Speaker 4 (21:23):
To say they're the best. Jefferson's that, Jefferson's great.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
Slow the bleep down on his saying he's gonna be
better than Randy Moss. Come on, Randy Moss is just done.
We're not like we're comparing him to Wayite Tiddle. I
would be happy to stand up for those guys, because again,
I don't think it's styles and talent, sure, but production,
it's a very different thing, guys, very.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
Different man said, does it dilute for you at all?
Justin Jefferson's ability to make it on this greatest wide
Receiver of All Time list, the fact that he does
have to play with all these different quarterbacks.
Speaker 5 (21:55):
I think it dilutes it a little bit for him,
just because to Kyle's point, when you have somebody like
Joe Burrow and Jamar Chase throwing out, I mean.
Speaker 4 (22:04):
Watch the quarterback documentary. Yes, watch what.
Speaker 5 (22:06):
They're saying to each other, Like I knew you were
going to do this, so I threw the ball on
your inside shoulder because only I knew Jamar Chase likes
to do yards aft to catch, and I signal to
you in the back of the end zone and you change.
They just can read each other's minds and that's just
what you build throughout years and years of playing together.
I mean, justin Jefferson, Kirk Cousins, Sam Darnold, and he's
(22:27):
gonna have JJ McCarthy, Like, these are three different quarterbacks
in such a short amount of time. So it's not
only how does this guy throw the ball, but it's
more so JJ McCarthy, do you know how Justin Jefferson
likes the ball when he's running a certain route. Do
you know that he likes the back shoulder instead of
a jump ball? Like those are the types of things
where that Joe Burrow and Jamar chase they don't have
to talk about their parents.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
Are tailgating in the parking lot. Do you have a
lot of things figured out be on the football field exactly.
Speaker 4 (22:52):
Well, that's why it's funny.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
They have so much chemistry and they have their little
pinky handshake that they do, and they appear to be
best friends, and their parents are best friends.
Speaker 4 (22:59):
Terara Loans and none of the McNabb were not speaking.
It's a totally different.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
Thing chasing each other on the sideline, I mean arguments
in the middle of the game and then going out
and putting up huge numbers. It's changed a lot, And
I think if there was a Netflix show following Ron
Donovan McNabb, I think there would have been a different interaction.
There's so many people to throw out here, and like
I've never seen like a four or five year period
better played by wide receiver than Antonio Brown, who also
(23:23):
had huge issues. And like there's a lot of guys
here It's not just the next big thing in Neon
lighter whoever's on Netflix. When you say like greatest wide
Receiver ever, that is its own show, not its own segments.
Speaker 4 (23:34):
So I just want as money names represented as possible.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
Okay, the segment is called going for two. We have
to follow suit. This is our second topic here, and
forgive me. We are entering wrestling territory. Forty nine ers
sight end. George Kittle was at a golf tournament that
we were talking about all at the end of last week,
and he greeted a friend of our show, WWE superstar
The Miz.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
Apparently we have it. Take a look Diddle and the Miz.
Speaker 4 (23:56):
I don't know that i'd want to be on the
wrong end of this with either of these guys.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
Oh wow, it's tough in there in the squared circle.
Speaker 4 (24:09):
That's pretty impressive stuff. I don't think this is done
yet between these two.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
Okay, well, now you to go to that picture right away.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
I can't even comment about that.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
That's our guy, Kyle Brandt looking so dapper. I was
confused actually to check under the hood to make sure
that it was him under that cap. There Saratoga Kyle
brand making the appearance MANSI, who do you think it
a better weekend? Kyle at Saratoga or George Kittle at
that golf tournament in Tahoe.
Speaker 5 (24:36):
Well, listen, I don't know where it was going with
the whole theme, but I saw George Kittle and the
Miz and I'm like, man, if.
Speaker 4 (24:42):
I could just do that with a rock and do
a rock bottom on them.
Speaker 5 (24:45):
But then I saw KB looking like smooth criminal do the.
Speaker 4 (24:48):
Lean KB say if I had to debate Jamil.
Speaker 5 (24:51):
Gott to be our brother, KB looking smooth over there?
Speaker 3 (24:54):
Kyle, what's going on here? Talk to us about this?
Speaker 1 (24:56):
Well, the Rappaport's just kind of run the equestrian world
like it's hashtag access. I went with Ian and Leah
and I brought my wife and it was a nice
family three hour drive this weekend. There we are up
to Saratoga and I am only a guest in the
equine world.
Speaker 4 (25:12):
But the answer to this question.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
Is by far, I had a better weekend. Like to me,
Kittle in the mis, I think that's just like a
Tuesday for them.
Speaker 4 (25:19):
I think they do that stuff all the time.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
This is me, you know, I cashed in my nordstrum
gift card, and I got myself a new suit, you know,
and I dressed up and everything. This guy's like this
could just be them, like in their backyard. That's how
those guys hang. There's a very special weekend for me. Now,
I did picking it up over my head and I
gave him a root awakening, but we didn't have it
on camera, so I'm sorry.
Speaker 4 (25:39):
I should have provided the video.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
But he in took it like a champ, and as
always the Rapport's incredible host.
Speaker 4 (25:44):
I look pretty classy that weekend, though, you did?
Speaker 2 (25:47):
Is that a wrestling move? Is there a wrestling move
called rude awakening? Because I'm hearing that I would have
just called that like a kick to the face. But
apparently that move is called sweet chin music or something.
But is root awakening a wrestling move?
Speaker 3 (25:58):
What is it?
Speaker 4 (25:59):
Yeah? Ravishing Rick Rude.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
Well, I won't imitate him here on camera or I'll
put somebody's eye out, but he yeah, he would like
do like a neck breaker, and I did one on
rap sheet. We went out on the infield. We got
ejected from the track.
Speaker 4 (26:09):
It was terrible.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
We're banned for life, but it was worth it. I
just wish I had video. I'm sorry, Ian, thank you
for hosting us.
Speaker 3 (26:15):
Oh my gosh, that's fantastic.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
If you could pick, would you go to Tahoe or
to Saratoga with those guys.
Speaker 5 (26:20):
I'll go to Saratoga. I'm going to hang with KB
because we was hanging together, Jamie. Yeah, I think we
out of all of them, we had the better.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
My oldest turned six and the Tao family came over
for an ice cream cake that had a princess in
the middle of it. So that's what we were doing
over the weekend. But everybody else looked quite dapper, and
they were hanging out of Tahoe and Saratoga. We were
just literally wrangling children out of a swimming pool to
get home. That's everybody's weekend looks a little different.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
I guess.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
We're back on GMFB for news around the league. Cleveland
Brown's rookie running back quinch On Judkins was arrested on
Saturday in Broward County, Florida. Judkins was charged with misdemeanor
domestic violence. In a statement obtained by NFL Network insider
Tom Pilasaro, an NFL spokesperson said, quote, we are aware
of the matter, but.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
Will decline to further comment.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
Tellus Sarah reporting that battery was determined to have taken
place according to preliminary investigations Judkins. Judkins posted bond on
Sunday and is pending trial. Judkins has not signed with
the Browns after being selected with the thirty six overall
pick in the second round in last April's NFL Draft. Elsewhere,
NFL Network insider Ian Rappaport reporting that Chargers rookie wide
(27:31):
receiver Trey Harris is holding out of training camp. The
second round pick did not report to camp on Saturday
with the rest of the rookies and this could become
a trend. Rappaport adding that thirty of the thirty.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
Two second round picks have yet to.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
Sign their rookie deals over a disagreement on guaranteed money.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
And there has been no shortage.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
Of hype on the expectations for Jaguars rookie Travis Hunter.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
On both sides of the ball.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
His quarterback Trevor Lawrence Blake's when he's seen so far
from the number two overall pick, Lawrence.
Speaker 3 (28:01):
Telling WJXT quote, Travis has.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
Been great, his work ethic, how he's come in, He's
been one of the hardest working guys. We have Jaguars rookies.
They report a training camp this Saturday. When we return
on GMFB. We got to look back at one of
the most intimidating and electric players on the field.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
It's Daminican Sue. He's called it a career and we're
going to take a look.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
Good Mont moll and Dominican Sioue is walking away after
thirteen seasons and a Super Bowl ring, Mister Sue, as
he was.
Speaker 4 (28:37):
Once called, announced his retirement. In a statement.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
The five time All Pro said he left it all
on the field, and now I'm stepping away with peace
and gratitude. I have a lot of really good memories
of Ndominkan Sioue twenty ten draft number two overall pick
out of Nebraska, where he looked like he was the
best player in the country, mean, ferocious strong. We'll have
some reflections on the back end of this. In the meantime,
(29:00):
here are some memories from mister Sue in the NFL.
Speaker 7 (29:05):
I've got a guy who's given and given and given
to this game. And Murray is dropped buying Dona can soon.
Speaker 4 (29:14):
Anytime a defensive lineman gets on the inside right there.
Speaker 8 (29:17):
He's in control and that's a great counter by Sue
and able to secure the slippery Kyler Murray.
Speaker 4 (29:24):
The hand placement sets it off. Oh raid a third
down of the bar.
Speaker 7 (29:31):
Opra nah hols loose picked up by Fairly and it's
a touchdown and Donakins stripped it man fairly into the zone.
Speaker 5 (29:47):
You're gonna see the inside pressure coming here of the
athleticism can only hold him out so long.
Speaker 4 (29:57):
Don't an't find everybody go and Domakin Sue.
Speaker 8 (30:02):
Look at that strength just with wood, He's able to
beat Andre Smith around the edge.
Speaker 4 (30:07):
Extremely consistent, very durable.
Speaker 8 (30:11):
He's made an impact in every single game this season
for the Lions.
Speaker 9 (30:16):
Redskin's best taken all the way press Shaw Rose for
the his head loose ball.
Speaker 4 (30:21):
It's a lot fall recovered by the Lions. That double
Konsue touchdown. They want him to step up back.
Speaker 9 (30:27):
There's a hit from Bannon Box the sack knocking the
ball out.
Speaker 4 (30:34):
Our penalty on Buffalo is there. Twelfth of the game.
At speaking of Sue, he gets to Taylor.
Speaker 8 (30:39):
There you see right there, coming right up the just
man handles the guard John Miller went right through Miller
to get to Tyrod Taylor. That's what endamakan. Sue looks
like Spiro when he is determined, and this is maybe
what people want from him on every single play. Hard
to do it when you're being double team and triple team.
But when he gets a one on one blocker, he
(31:00):
destroys the competition to get to.
Speaker 4 (31:03):
The quarterbows the ball and then the Bunccaneers come up
with it into thirty yard line and Domican Sue.
Speaker 9 (31:20):
He knocked it loose.
Speaker 7 (31:23):
And the Tomansiders He's done throughout.
Speaker 4 (31:26):
The course of his career, remarkably.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
Comes up with the play of the day.
Speaker 9 (31:37):
Under pressure, loses the ball and it's picked up by
Oakland by new House, and the new House loses the
ball and a whole bunch of Dolphin jerseys of there
in Miami hassard. So they avoided disaster. It was Sue
who busted it up the play. He is slow in
getting up, he is shaken up. He'll go to the bench,
(31:57):
but Miami winds up with the ball.
Speaker 10 (32:03):
Wow, Marray five catches fifty one yards in his first
half breeze in trouble down it goes.
Speaker 4 (32:11):
That's Sue.
Speaker 10 (32:13):
Dominican Sue coming off his best game.
Speaker 4 (32:15):
By a mile.
Speaker 10 (32:17):
She turned in last Saturday against the Cowboys, he gets
the first sack.
Speaker 5 (32:21):
Yeah, he's able to work against Andres Pete.
Speaker 4 (32:24):
He gets right past.
Speaker 10 (32:25):
Him and that's the first sack.
Speaker 4 (32:29):
Of the game.
Speaker 10 (32:32):
Ready, second down and sixteen breeze rockers in his face
and he's not alone. Sue again, Dante Fowler. There as well,
three guys combined to bring down breeze back to back
plays with a sack.
Speaker 5 (32:50):
Hill out.
Speaker 6 (32:51):
Now, if you're the Rams with the trade.
Speaker 7 (32:53):
Deadline on the nineteenth, you'd still go out and try to.
Speaker 9 (32:55):
Get a guy like a Vincent Jackson from San Diego
Netball ticked up the hitter.
Speaker 7 (33:00):
Sucond and Dombakan sue a second pickle.
Speaker 3 (33:04):
For all.
Speaker 4 (33:07):
Comes up with a big plane. Domican sue, you don't
think he has some motivation in this game? Trying to
show the Rams.
Speaker 8 (33:13):
Hey, I know Bradford's great, but you guys should have
taken meet number one.
Speaker 4 (33:17):
He gives himself the assist with the tip and then
shows some of that athleticism they got him drafted number two.
Gonna be an outstanding player, already playing.
Speaker 5 (33:26):
At a high level.
Speaker 4 (33:27):
Three sacks on the season, now his first career interception
and they've got him again.
Speaker 11 (33:39):
I ma homes just trying to find somebody has to
eat it and just take the sack.
Speaker 4 (33:44):
Just five minutes remaining.
Speaker 3 (33:50):
What it hits.
Speaker 4 (33:51):
Ball is out recovered by Kansas City, but.
Speaker 8 (33:54):
Maholmes is just hammered by Endomican Sue.
Speaker 11 (34:00):
A play that typifies the knight for this Tampa Bay defense.
I try and get a big play down the field
a hill, but it takes forever, and he's trying to see.
Speaker 3 (34:08):
Him right there.
Speaker 4 (34:10):
Cam Gillman on him too.
Speaker 11 (34:13):
Just trying to do anything to help his team and
take him a huge shot.
Speaker 3 (34:19):
That was electric.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
I could watch fifty of those plays, and I said
to Manti.
Speaker 3 (34:24):
Sue's one arm perhaps stronger.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
Than like seventy five percent of the male population at
this point. Ridiculous career accomplishments for Endamakan Sue the second
overall pick back in twenty ten, Kyle Manti. Cool to
watch those plates from back, Manti?
Speaker 3 (34:41):
What you got in Sue?
Speaker 4 (34:42):
Manny. You could go on and on about his highlights.
Speaker 5 (34:44):
You could even go back to his college days and
watch those highlights, you know, talk about his college days
for those who don't know he was a Heisman finalist
as a d lineman. Yeah, like that is just unheard of.
Like that just goes to show how dominant he was
and just to be able to watch him.
Speaker 4 (34:58):
Throughout his career.
Speaker 5 (34:59):
I too had an opportunity to meet no Dominkin a
little bit.
Speaker 4 (35:03):
I ran into him at the Oregon.
Speaker 5 (35:06):
The Nike facilities out there, and kind of like kb's
and Connor with the Bantia Adams, He's one of the
most kind hearted, soft spoken, grounded guys. I think he
gets a bad rep based on some of the antics
that happened on the football field, but when I talked
to him, the guy was just one of the best
human beings, most kind hearted human beings. But later on
(35:28):
in the show jam I got a top five most
intimidating guys uh huh that I played against Nadaminkin, Sue
was one of them in the entire.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
NFL saw that was yes, Kyle real quick to follow
up on that story from Mansai Back in two sixteen seventeen,
I'm sideline reporter for CBS and I have a game. Frankly,
watching those highlights, I had forgotten how many teams Sue
played for, so I must have had a RAMS game.
I believe it was, and I'm nervous to go into
(35:57):
this production meeting and sit with Sue and get to
know a.
Speaker 3 (35:59):
Little bit better.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
Long story short, my in laws are huge Nebraska and
Husker fans, and that year Nebraska had gone to Oregon
for like that week one game, Labor Day weekend, and
my strange father in law I was wearing a legitimately
orange shirt with corn husks of corn on it, a
button down, and he meets Sue, who also was off
(36:21):
that week, so he went to watch the game, interacts
with him about climate change of all things under this
tent at a tailgate. And weeks later I say, oh,
my family went to the Oregon game. I actually my
father in law, you know, had a conversation with you.
He's like, yeah, the strange guy with the corn Husker shirt.
Speaker 1 (36:37):
Out, how do you remember that.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
He's so down to earth, so genuine loves everything about football,
great memory, good dude, Kyle, and a hell of a
football player.
Speaker 4 (36:46):
Yeah, hi, IQ guy.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
He's famously friends with Warren Buffett and likes to talk
about investments and things like that. Listen on the field,
he was a wrestling heel and.
Speaker 4 (36:55):
He had a reputation.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
Because he earned the reputation, Domican Sue is on the line.
I have to say, guys, I know why we showed
the highlight reel. We just showed them making strips and
all that stuff. But that highlight reel was like watching
Goodfellas on TNT. It's not really the same movie. It's
highly different. Okay, that was not the movie that I
saw in the theater. I remember and Dominican Sue as
(37:17):
a rookie coming to with Detroit and damn near ripping
Jake Dellom's head off. I think I might have even
been in a preseason game, like he was fierce. I
remember him stepping on Aaron Rodgers with his cleats, maybe accidental,
probably not, and Rogers like punched him like in the hindquarters.
Like Rogers had a lot of run ins with Sue.
He was this guy who enlightened, thoughtful off the field,
(37:37):
very intelligent, but on the field, like on the line,
over the line, and I'm an estalgised I missed those players.
I think we need those players sometimes. But he did
some really real, really brutal, dicey stuff and that was
part of what made him cool. There was a theatrical
part to it where he was quote unquote evil as
a football player and didn't care about being nice.
Speaker 4 (38:00):
I'll miss that and there's just not much of that anymore.
Speaker 2 (38:03):
It did it ring true for you watching the highlights
how many different organizations he was impactful on, and like
the Highlights is wild and the divisions that he was
absolutely a menace with him.
Speaker 1 (38:13):
Yeah, it's a lot like you know Genevian Clowney or
even Julio Jones, where like it's this big name you
just bring in, but he was just this defensive tackle,
so you could bring him make a couple of plays
and he would always show up every single year. I'm
still not he's one of these got them all still
not convince he still retired.
Speaker 4 (38:27):
All right.
Speaker 1 (38:28):
There's him and Rogers and like Rogers, I do not
think will have nice things to say about him if
he's ever asked about.
Speaker 4 (38:33):
Him this week or this summer. Like they did not
get along.
Speaker 1 (38:35):
It was a long time Green Bay Detroit thing, way
before Detroit was cool like and domic It was on
some really bad Lions teams, but it was a lot
of this and there was a lot of after the
whistle and a lot.
Speaker 4 (38:46):
I would love to.
Speaker 1 (38:47):
Hear Rodgers reflect on him, because normally Rogers likes that
stuff right there. He likes the back and forth. He's
talked about it with guys like irlac R. I love
the conversations. But I'm telling you there's a play you
can look up where and dom Can stepped on him
with his cleats and it looked like it really hurt.
And there's just a lot of it that went on.
And again I just keep saying it like he's gone
a legend. I already missed kind of what he stood for.
Speaker 2 (39:06):
The amazing thing is that we just had those ten
plays and we have this vast vault of NFL plays.
Yet the imagery that Kyle is trying to paint, all
we have is still pictures of Rogers and Sue because like,
don't show the clips, but we can show them kind
of interacting in the football field. That was awesome and
Damikasu after her, Yeah, can you please stop knocking.
Speaker 4 (39:25):
Out like friends?
Speaker 3 (39:26):
Uh don't.
Speaker 4 (39:29):
Yeah, it's like.
Speaker 1 (39:30):
We're gonna do We're gonna do run our test top
ten plays here, some shooting free throws.
Speaker 4 (39:34):
Like what do we do with guys? It's a different
type of player we know, the real ones know.
Speaker 2 (39:40):
I have to assume the American Century Championship is proud
of what they accomplished over the weekend in terms of
its charitable efforts, but also the fact that we've been
talking about it all morning and the guys that were
there and Tahoe over the weekend, big names that gave
us some splashy golf and antics to talk about, which
is really fun. Manta, do you have a sporting event
or Kyle, that you have dreams of attending sporting event?
Speaker 3 (40:03):
Participat off the bat.
Speaker 5 (40:06):
I think I would love to. I always wanted to
be part of the Olympics. Yeah, it's some sort of fact,
some way or for him. I don't know what it is.
Speaker 4 (40:13):
I would.
Speaker 5 (40:13):
I just always thought to go to Olympics and see
the best of the best be able to compete.
Speaker 4 (40:18):
And run and jump, play volleyball back.
Speaker 5 (40:21):
I don't know what it is, but something about the Olympics,
I just felt like I was always doing too so
total I'd always always want to go Olympics.
Speaker 1 (40:26):
Kyle coleege, Well, that's a very dignified classy. I would
want to go with those imbeciles chasing the cheese down
the hill in England.
Speaker 4 (40:33):
You've ever seen those guys.
Speaker 1 (40:34):
They go in this place, in the stop of this
hill and they hold like a ten pound thing of
cheese down the hill, and then these morons just chase
it and go head over heels.
Speaker 4 (40:43):
They slide down on their bucks. Look at those guy.
Speaker 1 (40:45):
Guys got a superman outfit on pulling from the headlines.
Speaker 4 (40:48):
I've always wanted to try this.
Speaker 1 (40:49):
I remember I was watching Sports Center once and Scott
dan Pelt covered it and he had video and he
couldn't get through the report because he was laughing so hard.
That's what I want to do right there. Mantai can
go to the Olympics. They have some history in the Olympics.
I guess this is mine right here.
Speaker 2 (41:02):
Is that not the same one call where they have
that stick and they're trying to guide it down the hill.
Speaker 3 (41:06):
Is that the same thing?
Speaker 2 (41:08):
Or is that just them chasing a wheel of cheese.
Speaker 1 (41:10):
There's no stick, there's just booze and idiots A different thing.
Speaker 4 (41:14):
I think I think KP would win that. KB get the.
Speaker 2 (41:17):
Cheese, KB, sing the cheese down the hill. Nothing more
motivating to put it onto a pasta your pizza doesn't
matter if It comes with the topping of cheese, let's
go chase after that wheel keep better, boys,
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