January 20, 2025 • 42 mins
Hour Two of the Good Morning Football Podcast begins with the legacy of Lamar Jackson. Hosts Jamie Erdahl, Kyle Brandt, Peter Schrager, and Akbar Gbaja-Biamila discuss his amazing performances but lack of playoff success. Kyle points out the real story behind Jayden Daniels success. Plus, the table hands out Game Balls for the Divisional Round.
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
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Speaker 2 (00:22):
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Speaker 3 (00:24):
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Speaker 4 (00:25):
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It's Monday, January twenty's. I'm Jamie Heard all years Off,
barbaj Biam Miller, Peter Schreger, Kyle Brand. We've got three
games left in the NFL season. We've got two games
left on Fox and one on CBS. Kyle, you have
a playoff beard happening. What is going on with your
facial hair? I would like you to speak to the
public about this.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Oh yeah, this is my commander's playoff beard.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
We're all, no, that's not now. I'm gronding it out
for a role. And that's this pretentious thing that actors
like to say. You're like, why is Mark Ruffalo at
the Oscars with a long beard? Always in this incredible role? Hey,
I'm grinding off for a role. I'm just gonna leave
it if that's great time, Okay, all.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
Right, stay tuned, Stay tuned until then. Kyle, please lend
your vocal talents to the highlight from last night.
Speaker 5 (01:08):
I think I will Ruffalo loved you in Last Castle
Ravens Bills is just the last stand for Buffalo at home.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
I know it's their last home game. They're trying to
go ten to zero at home for the season. But
Lamar comes in as he hasn't a playoff game before
and Buffalo and lost.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
But this is the opening drive of the game and
it was just it seemed casual. They couldn't get there.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Henry going early and it didn't matter as the Rashad
Bateman touchdown no big deal, but the Bills immediately answered
with their own touchdown drive second quarter.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Though huge play in this game.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Shout out Tomar Hamlin making a play its head Vonn Tomark.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Roden tom Mark.
Speaker 6 (01:41):
Hamlin was great blast.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
It's a critically important player for this team.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
It was always so cut up in the conversation about
tomorrow because of the incident from a couple of years ago.
But he is a really important player who made huge
plays on this night. His need to make more next
week touchdown snope blow Bills now take the lead. They
were down seven to nothing and then they cooked for
the rest of the first half. The MVP letters were out.
The votes are already in there's nothing you can do.
(02:06):
I don't know if I like that system at all,
but here's another touchdown with less than a minute left
to go. In the first half, they would go into
the locker room with all the momentum and could they
run away and hide.
Speaker 7 (02:16):
With this thing?
Speaker 1 (02:17):
No, absolutely not, because the Ravens were great in the
third quarter, especially this drive was destruction. They ran, they ran,
Henry got going north and south, they scored, and they
just got all the momentum back. And it feels like
John Harbo is going to add to his all time
best list of road playoff wins.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
But the two pointer verts is aflected by Matt.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Mlano, crafty player who spent a lot of the night
spying Lamar and in that case knocking down the pass.
Fourth quarter, it is twenty four to nineteen. Bill's holding
onto that five point lead to not feel solid. But wait,
Mark Andrews venerable tight end, Torol Bernard Peter from to.
Speaker 5 (02:54):
Row, Bernard from Baylor.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Baylor, Baylor.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
He makes the play, he knocks it out, he recovers it.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
We'll see more of Mark Andrews shortly. It's not great.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Now down eight two minutes to play, Lamar just go
down the field, score and get the two point goes
right back to Andrews as he has his whole career,
same draft class.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Goes out of bounds. Time immediately is not a factor.
You think they got a hurry that No.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
In fact, they probably shouldn't slow down, not to leave
Josh anytime.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Down eight, He had all the time in the world.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
This was about a twelve second pass protection. And finally
the Bill secondary can't keep up and they go to
likely and it's a touchdown, but they're down to obviously
got to go.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
They got to go for the two point conversion, and
they have the play.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
They have the receiver Lamar roll right, there's Mark Andrews.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
He's done to a thousand times. He just dropped it.
I've watched this play fifty times now. I don't understand
what happened.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
Mark Andrews did not speak after the game, so we
don't have any answers from him. All the Ravens just
spoke up for him, and John Harbus said we would
not be here without Mark Andrews.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
But he dropped it. It is a very good player in.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
The biggest spot, imaginable, making an unthinkable mistake.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
After a couple other ones earlier in the game.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Facts, the Bills win, the Ravens are done, The Bills
are going to Arrowhead for another game against the Chiefs
twenty seven to twenty five.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
We're gonna talk about all of.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
This, especially two quarterbacks though Josh Allen and a passionate,
frustrated Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 8 (04:20):
It's a lot of everything. We're excited at, a lot
of pride in that locker room. I said it in
my post game we don't listen to the outside noise.
But everyone was saying this and that about us, and
we didn't have enough talent, weren't good enough to be
in these positions. And our guys just continue to work
hard and we're internally driven. We love each other, and
I think you saw how much we played for each
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other there for.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
The first half.
Speaker 9 (04:42):
I had two costly turnovers, me not holding the safety,
me just knowing the covered, me knowing it was a
man through a BS in the session, Gabe, it was
seven to seven at the time. I believe they scored.
Speaker 6 (04:53):
After that.
Speaker 9 (04:55):
Battle back fumble, And like I've been saying all season,
every time we had situations like this, turnovers, play fattor
Pennanties play a factor today. Well, tonight to turn over
k had it. No, that's why we left the game because,
as you can see, moving the ball wonderfully is hold
on to the ball. I'm sorry for my language, unknown Todder.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
Yeah, those three turnovers for the Baltimore Ravens matches a
season high. We last saw them suffer three against the
Pittsburgh Steelers, a game in which they lost in Week eleven,
eighteen to sixteen. So to Lamar's point, the script goes out,
if you cough the ball up that many times, especially Peter,
to a team that has another MVP potential at quarterback,
That's the way this thing is going to go. Let's
(05:38):
zoom out, though, let's go legacy talk. When you look
at these two names, Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, it was
so fun to this game up. It was incredibly fun
to watch it. Now, what does it mean that we
know how it ended?
Speaker 7 (05:49):
Yeah, I'm going to focus on Lamar and Josh Allen
still has a book to be written here this season.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
He still has final chapters.
Speaker 7 (05:57):
He's going to go up against the big Boss, Patrick
Mahomes in Mahomes's stadium, and then, of course if he
gets past that, then he can go win a Super
Bowl and he can be one of those minted guys.
Lamar's going home. Lamar is going home yet again. He's
now three and five in the playoffs. And my immediate
reaction is one of football just could be really cruel sometimes,
because if you go to the second half of that game,
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let's tell the second half the stats of Lamar Jackson
and how he performed in the clutch when he was
needed most. Down eleven points going into the second half,
he went twelve to fifteen at one hundred and thirty
one passing yards, had a touchdown that was incredible when
they needed and then Mark Andrews drops that two point conversion.
Speaker 6 (06:39):
But when we look at Lamar's big.
Speaker 7 (06:41):
Picture, we're not going to be like, well, Lamar's three
and five, but like, if Andrews catches that passing no guys,
the Bills had a minute thirty three left and two timeouts,
they very well easily could have won this game, and
Lamar would have lost even.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
With this two point conversion.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
I'm the historian on the show.
Speaker 7 (06:59):
I proudly say that I would even argue I might
be the historian of NFL network at this stage in
my career. Long enough I go back and do all
this trivia, and we go back and we talk about
the history.
Speaker 6 (07:08):
Of the game.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Guys. Peyton Manning was three and six in.
Speaker 7 (07:12):
The playoffs his first six years as a pro. In
twenty four he went and they lost his third straight
road playoff game and did so twenty to three in
the snow up in New England. And that was after
winning two MVP awards. Dan Marino had a losing record
in playoff football. Dan Marino couldn't get past Jim Kelly
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in the playoffs. Dan Marino once lost thirty eight to
three to John Elway in a playoff game. Dan Marino's
final playoff game and final game as a pro as
a sixty two to seven loss to Mark Brunel and
the Jaguars in the playoffs. Lamar Jackson is not the
first quarterback to lose playoff games, and Lamar Jackson's not
going to be the last to lose playoff games to
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guys in his draft class. He's only in year seven.
I say that because I'm not making an excuse for
Lamar Jackson. I just watched how Peyton made career went
and then he beat Brady. He eventually beat Brady in
a really dramatic playoff win in Indianapolis, and he would
then go win another Super Bowl and he'd be fine.
Speaker 6 (08:14):
And though Marino had early.
Speaker 7 (08:16):
Success, he didn't ever get back to the Super Bowl.
And we still look at Dan Marino as one of
the best quarterbacks of all time. John Elway went to
the Super Bowl three times in the eighties, lost them
all and waited a decade to get back there, and
then one two and goes and retires, and we win
one for John and we carry him off our shoulders.
Lamar Jackson is just in the seventh year of his career.
(08:39):
I'm going to say, instead of putting a statement down
or saying Lamar didn't win or he can't win, let's
let this breathe a little bit. We're in a different
era now. We're in the social media era and it's
the Internet era where everything has to be now and
we talk about it.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
Guys, Josh Allen couldn't win in the divisional round and
guess what he did yesterday? He got one.
Speaker 7 (08:58):
Now he goes to the AFC Championship Game and he
loses the Chiefs, like he can't beat the chief.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
Let's just slow down.
Speaker 7 (09:02):
These guys are so good, so awesome, and their careers
are still in their primes. Let's let this thing play
out a little bit. Lamar Jackson will get back to
the playoffs. I truly believe it, and then he's gonna
have a chance to write the script next year.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
It's a really nuanced take that I really respect Peter
because it doesn't have to be just binary.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
He's good or he sucks.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
It just really doesn't and then there is still room
for that kind of conversation here. I really like Kamar,
and I'm reluctant to criticize him just as kind.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Of what it's not really what we do as a show.
My bottom line is I think this is fair.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Lamar at this stage of his career, does not play
his best football in the playoffs, and I'm just to
stick to the facts. You know, the record, you know,
three and five. You see him afterwards, and that press
conference was so telling. It felt like that wasn't a
press conference. He was still there looking in the mirror
like mad at himself and swearing, why am I doing this?
You know, he says I threw a BS interception. This
guy through four interceptions in eighteen games before the weekend.
(09:52):
He doesn't throw bs interceptions. And right now the legacy
is like, he's probably going to win MVP and he's
going to become the first ever three time MVP to
never even play in a super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
That's not great.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
It's every guy who has won three MVPs is not
a very big club. They've all at least been in
a super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
He has not.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
In the playoffs, Lamar has thirteen total touchdowns.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
He has eleven turnovers. It's not good.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
And there is something with Lamar where he is incredibly
likable and personally. I've just gotten so much enjoyment from
watching him over the weekend that I don't go like
to get my pick acts and start swinging at him.
But if those stats were reversed and Alan had the
interception of the fumble, I think there'd be a little
more criticism. You know, everyone just waits to kick someone
like Justin Herbert and the Groin fifty times and make
memes about how funny is. Those are easy targets. Lamar
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deserves some too, because if you're going to be critical
and you're going to be fair, he's a fantastic player.
Who just had one of the best regular seasons of
all time. He has proven, not once, not twice, several
times over that he does not play his best football
in the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
That's it, but a great second half made up for it.
Did not play his best game.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
On the flip side, I think the legacy for Josh
Allen yesterday. I think yesterday it means nothing. Nothing, And
I say that as a Josh Allen enthusiast. I feel
like it is nothing. It is all next week. If
they lose to the Chiefs, knows me. But they did
beat Lamar in the division No, no, no, no, no,
He's beat Lamar in the playoffs before, he's won the
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divisional before. I would look at if as a Bill's fan,
Bill's player, and I've certainly Josh Allen himself. Great, we
won the Divisional at home. That means nothing. We have
a score to settle. I have a score to settle
with that quarterback, with that team, with that stadium, with
that fan base, with everything. That is what I'm about,
and then I'll take care of New Orleans if I
get through there divisional round. I'm above that. I've been
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in this league a long time. That is nothing that
I'm celebrating. I'm not breaking tables and playing the music
and eating chicken wings because we beat the Ravens in
the divisional I think that did nothing.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
And I mean that as a compliment and what I
respect to have for him. It's all next week. It's
everything is next week.
Speaker 10 (12:00):
It should all weigh on next week, Kyle, because you know, oh,
win three against the Kansas City Chiefs, you know, in
the playoffs, and you think about that history. So Josh
Allen's story is still being written as far as his legacy,
and it's going to come down to that game. But
you know, when you go back to Lamar and I
think there are going to be a lot of those
you know, fans out there, the people who just felt it.
(12:20):
Especially you bring in Dereck Henry into the mix, and
you go, this was it. This was supposed to be
the opportunity we're supposed to have. I know, all year long,
I'd been making the comparison to you know, Lamar Jackson
and Dereck Henry with the equivalents of Kobe Bryant and
Shaquille O'Neill. Well, I bring in another basketball analogy. You know,
we all are familiar with the great Michael Jordan. It
(12:41):
took Michael Jordan's seven seasons before he was able to
win his first NBA championship. He had gone to the
playoffs several times and hadn't He hadn't been able to
get just to that point. And so I guess what
I'm trying to say to everyone else out there, it
takes time, especially when you're talking about something so great.
We all, we all will say and held that Michael
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Jordan is the greatest basketball player of all time. Now
there's some arguments in between there, but you get the
point in that Lamar Jackson's story isn't finished in year seven.
He's got a lot more left in him. And I
think he's going to make the necessary adjustments. You know,
Michael Jordan had to make the necessary adjustments in his
game where there was the weight room stuff and getting
back and figure out what does he need to do
to take out the guys who are on the top.
(13:24):
He knows what that's going to be, you know, coming
into the next season. So I think his story and
his legacy for Lamar Jackson is, yes, we know about
the athleticism, it's going to be getting over the adversity
and being failing over and over and over again, and
hopefully in.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
Next season we see him succeed.
Speaker 10 (13:42):
But his legacy will be how he came overcame all
this adversity in his first seven years, because that's a lot,
that's a lot of losing an he can weigh on
the average person, will that will weigh on them where
they just start to feel like it becomes a self
fulfilling Prophey, I can't do it. I can't do it.
I can't do it. I don't think Lamar Jackson is
that guy he can do it.
Speaker 7 (13:59):
As we're listening about this, Lamar's I like, go ask
a Raiders fan right now, or go ask a Browns
fan or a Giants fan if they'd sign up to
have Lamar Jackson as their quarterback and put and put
him them into the playoffs everything. I think we've had
that perspective here. Lamar in the all time greats. As
Kyle said, if he wins his third MVP, you have
to consider him an all time great. He just hasn't
had that big playoff win yet. And I know that's
(14:22):
that's maybe an easy take and hotcast.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
The Ravens fans how they feel today with Lamar like
he's incredible glad to have them.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Of course they're thrilled to have them.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
But there's something flawed going on, and that doesn't mean
he can't grow out of it, but it also doesn't
mean he will grow out of it.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
You know what you talked about, Michael Jordan.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
Maybe he's Charles Barkley and Karl Malone and all those guys,
and that's fine, there's nothing wrong with that. Though those
guys are Hall of famers. It doesn't mean he's going
to win a Super Bowl. It doesn't mean he's going
to beat the Chiefs. Doesn't mean Josh Allen is either.
Sometimes it's just Larren.
Speaker 7 (14:49):
Moon never went to the AFC championship game, Dan Fouch
never went to the Super Bowl.
Speaker 6 (14:54):
Dan Marino only went to one.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
They're all Hall of famers, they are.
Speaker 4 (14:58):
There is also a guy elsewhere in the AFC who's
wearing a lot of rings, smoking a lot of cigars,
and wearing his hat tipped off to the side too,
when he gets his title games. So you got to
pay attention to what the Chiefs.
Speaker 6 (15:06):
Have going on.
Speaker 4 (15:07):
When you're talking about legacy as a quarterback, specifically in
the AFC, it's tough to compare yourself to him.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Ian Rappaport, good morning to you. Let's flip to the
NFC side.
Speaker 4 (15:15):
Jalen Hurts appear to injure his knee on Sunday. He
played through the pain, but luckily for the Eagles, they
got to play again next week.
Speaker 6 (15:22):
What's going on? Yes, that is the good news.
Speaker 11 (15:25):
Now, Jalen Hurts's availability does not seem to be in
doubt for next week. Just listen to what he told reporters.
Is asked, are you going to be limited this week?
He said, you know, we'll see how the week goes,
and indication yeah, I think he probably will be somewhat limited.
He noticed that he was able to finish the game,
which generally is a very very good signed. Jalen Hurts
hates talking about his injuries, hates dealing with his injuries.
(15:46):
Has no problem with that, but of course it is
going to be a topic of what should be a tense,
awkward week in Philadelphia. He was asked, is he confident
that he will be out there? He said simply, yeah,
I would expect Jalen Hurts to play. The real question
is will he be able to run like normal Ken
a week of rest and rehab and work on his
knee get him to a place where he could still
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be that weapon on the ground. That was not the
only injury to a significant player for the Philadelphia Eagles.
Quinion Mitchell, the really really good rookie corner, was actually
ruled out yesterday with a shoulder injury, which usually is
a bad sign for a player's availability the next week.
Put Mitchell talked to reporters after the game, said he
believes it is a minor injury, said.
Speaker 6 (16:29):
He should be good there.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
It is right there, should be good for next week.
Speaker 11 (16:33):
Mike Garratfollo citing a source echoing that saying it is
not a major injury. So we'll see how the week
of rehab goes. But there is a very real possibility
he goes out both of these guys on Sunday.
Speaker 4 (16:44):
Oh man, that would be good for Eagles fans because
they have a familiar foe coming to town one week
from yesterday.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Ian Rappaport, thank.
Speaker 6 (16:51):
You so much.
Speaker 4 (16:52):
It was an unbelievable night in Detroit for that guy.
The rookie quarterback for the Commanders, Kyle jan Daniels. We
said it before, he is the best debut rookie season
since I don't know, Briden Presidice, what was that parallel
you made on Friday?
Speaker 1 (17:09):
Yeah, eighteen nineteen, Jane Austen dropped Send Some Sensibility as
her debut novel. I think Jaydon Daniels is having to
send some sensibility type season. It's really been that good
and he just keeps winning. Plus no sense in stopping him.
Jared Verse try, he couldn't do it.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
No one can do it.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
Sae Kwon Barkley, Is he gonna run all the way
to New Orleans?
Speaker 2 (17:28):
Did anybody have a better performance than he did? Over
the weekend? We'll get into a GMFB.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
Good mon football.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
Here we go Commander's Lions, Lions in the number.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
One seed for the first time in franchise history, and
here come the Commanders with this wild rookie quarterback already
leading seventeen fourteen golf, just way over the target's head.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
He was going for.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
Tim Patrick is intercepted by Kwan Martin.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
Is he gonna house this thing? He sure is? That
is a pick six?
Speaker 1 (18:03):
And you, like you were watching something crazy about to happen.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
It was gone.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
This thing was off the tracks from the get go
Golf took a massive hit at the end of the play.
I think he was never the same, but he threw
that interception before the hit. Then you hit Ertz touchdown.
Aaron Glenn really had nothing for the Commanders all day.
Neither did his defense. More injuries for the Lions. We'll
talk about it. Fourth quarter, Lions down ten and this
is when they bust out.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
This on first and ten.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
Jamison Williams just therees, a terrible interception and finally the
trick play well dried. There's Ben Johnson is probably gonna
be hired as a head coach in the next twenty minutes.
Delvy is last game with the Lions because they're not
playing next week.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
Jeremy McNichols says, see you later.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
A tough guy touchdown and the ultimate tough guy team,
so we thought, gets pushed around in their own house.
The Lions are won and done and the future is
Jaden's Jamee's going into Philadelphia next week as a superstar.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Forty five to thirty one.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
It was really never close and after the game, watch
the emotions coming through the screen.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
Right now Commanders and Lions.
Speaker 12 (19:07):
Feels good for real moment, just for you know, Washington
fan base, hold BMV. You know, this is just awesome feeling.
I always believe that we could achieve more than what
people give us credit for. But you know, you got
to go out there putting the work. You got to
go out there work daily, get better each and every day,
and just put your head go on the grind.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
And by then the time of the season you look up,
you might be in.
Speaker 13 (19:28):
Position like this and you lose these games. Man, just
like the players, you know what they put into it.
A lot of people don't know. You know what they
go through. You have to get up. Bodies beat you,
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you know, mentally, stay locked in and do those things.
It's my fault.
Speaker 8 (19:55):
You know.
Speaker 4 (19:56):
Max Crosby was with us on Friday and he spoke
wonderfully about how much he appreciates the way that Dan
Campbell loves his players, and you could hear it in
that final press confer After just a hell of a
loss for the Detroit Lions, the Commanders come in and
become just the third team in NFL history to have
thirteen or more losses the year before and find themselves
playing in a conference championship game. Peter, A lot of
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this most of this has to do with just lightning
in a bottle, having a rookie quarterback in Jade Daniels,
and everything this team has been able to accomplish.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
He's awesome.
Speaker 7 (20:26):
And they have a new head coach, a new offensive coordinator,
a new special teams coordinator, about fifteen different veterans that
signed us free agents and no one else wanted.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
And they just beat the number one seed in their building.
And they did so by going for it.
Speaker 7 (20:39):
We heard so much about how the Lions go for
it on fourth down and then they've got their.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
Foot on the pedal.
Speaker 7 (20:44):
How about this second quarter, fourth and three from the
Detroit nine. This didn't work out, and everyone at home
is like, what aren't snow commanders do it?
Speaker 2 (20:52):
Guys?
Speaker 6 (20:53):
They knew this was going to be a shootout.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
They went forward on fourth down.
Speaker 6 (20:56):
It was a mistake.
Speaker 7 (20:56):
Brian Robinson didn't go in the right direction. This sposed
to be a flip back to Jaden. Didn't happen that did?
I mean they shied away? Third quarter, minute forty seven left,
fourth and two for the Ner sixteen.
Speaker 6 (21:06):
Let's go for it, they do.
Speaker 7 (21:09):
Then it's fourth quarter, eight twenty four left, Let's go
for it.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
Then again, here it's Daniels to McLaurin on a huge
fourth and two.
Speaker 6 (21:18):
Let's go for it. They went for it.
Speaker 7 (21:23):
They didn't leave it there. And of course you get
this one when they needed it most. And it's the
third and five, and who are they throwing to Baits
the fullback on third and five who did.
Speaker 6 (21:35):
Very little in the passing game all season.
Speaker 7 (21:37):
They dialed up for him on a full back corner
route that sent the Lions packing. They went for it.
They left it all out there. They didn't leave anything
in the bag. That is a dan Quinn football team.
That is a football team that knows they're the sixth seed,
and why not let's just go for it.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
I love that style of play.
Speaker 7 (21:55):
It doesn't fit every fan base and it doesn't fit
every team, but I don't think the Commanders know any
different way. They're just in their first season as a
group together. They have won now seven games, seven regular
season and playoff games. In the final thirty second, this
wasn't one of them. This was one that they had
in hand with minutes left to go, and they send
the mighty Lions packing, who, by the way, had.
Speaker 6 (22:18):
A bit of bravado this season.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
They talked a lot.
Speaker 6 (22:21):
Herbie Joseph talks a lot.
Speaker 7 (22:23):
Dan Campbell brought in Kevin O'Connell and said, we'll see
it in two weeks.
Speaker 6 (22:26):
Well, neither one of those.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
Guys are playing in the NFC Championship game.
Speaker 7 (22:29):
People were watching around the league. Some of that bravado
wasn't as well received as it was last year when
they were America's darling team.
Speaker 10 (22:37):
Yeah, this whole thing, Peter, want to look at the
Commanders and I look at this game. It was the
game that got me the most excited. And I think
a lot of that is because of the story behind
the Commanders that we just talked about, but also too
when you look at what they did during the regular season.
They had the four winsday, they came from behind. In
the playoffs, they started off come from behind like this
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has been a story about a team to me that
all season long is their ability to respond. And I
take you to the second quarter because there was a
series of plays that showed you exactly like you look.
Speaker 6 (23:09):
At this screenplay right here.
Speaker 10 (23:10):
This is coming off of you know, the Porters scoring
that one handed touchdown to put the Lions up fourteen
to ten, and then they respond with this play and
the screenplay to McLaurin, and then come back around what
are the what did the Lions do? They shoot it
down there and oh no, here we go. Here comes
another big interception right here by Kwon Martin. He intercepts
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that high throw and over this zone play and they
come in at score. But again the Lions, they come back,
and it was the it was the commander's ability to
keep responding to the highest score team in the NFL
with this, which is the Detroit Lions, and the speed
that they had and they weren't scared at all. Jaydon
Danny's going, okay, cool, I got something for that too.
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And this is again all in the second quarter. It
was this back and forth, back and forth. He drops
his dime down to Dianmie Brown and you're saying to yourself,
what I'm witnessing is that this say is like Rocky
Balboa going up against Ivan Dragle and.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
Just keep taking a hit and keeps punching back.
Speaker 10 (24:09):
And that's what they did. And I love this about
this team. But it's not lost on me when I
talk about this team and we talk about Jayden Daniels,
Jadan Daniels is very open about his faith, and I
can't help but to make the parallel. You know, in
the Book of Daniel, of course, Daniel go it gets
thrown into the lions den and no one believes that
he can make it out, and he makes it out.
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And then here comes Jayden Daniels going into the Detroit
lions Den and he finds himself out of there. He
gets himself out, and it's all on this rookie quarterback.
There are not a lot of rookie quarterbacks. You can
go back in the history and Peter, you can help
me out with this one. There are not a lot
of yeah we did Cherokee's that have done this, and
you put it on your back. I mean, this is
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a team that had nothing. He walks in and he's
doing it on his back. I don't want I'm super
excited about this one, and I'm not trying to get political.
It's I know it's the inauguration today and all of
that stuff. But when I look at Jayden Daniel going
from the number two pick, now I believe that he
could get and become take the Commanders to be the
number two team in the in the championship between them.
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So I'm gonna go ahead, and I'm gonna call it
Commander's in Chief. That's exactly how I see this going,
because I am all in on the Washington Commanders going
all the way to the super Bowl based off of
what I saw in that second quarter.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
All right, it's in Monday, nine eight nine am. I cockbire,
locked in knockbar. We got a whole week to talk
about this game.
Speaker 6 (25:31):
It's over.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
He's going to Philadelphia. Listen. I feel you too.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
I feel the excitement about Jay and Daniel as much
as anybody else.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
You know.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
I was thinking about Campbell though, and we just played
this clip. If he loses and he's so emotional and
he's crying, I'm thinking of Johnny sacks daughters. Okay, sopranos,
and Johnny Sacks starts crying at the wedding and then
they go to phill Leotardo afterwards and he says, I'll
tell you one thing, I'm not afraid to say it.
My estimation of John Sacrimony as a man just plummeted.
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And then Tony says, who whoa, whoa wha because he's crying.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
Yeah, he's cry.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
Yeah, when it comes to daughters, all bets are off.
I feel like Tony watching Dan Campbell, and I know
Peter pointed out that the Canda Lions were pretty arrogant
this year and they finally got what's coming to him.
I'm a big pile of mushy gonna Dan Campbell cry.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
I love this team. I love as hard as they fought.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
The injury is over and over and over on defense,
and their goal was just to try to outscore everybody.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
They couldn't do it.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
But if you are a former NFL player, or you
played in college, or you played in high school, I
bet you have been in a room and a locker room,
maybe taking a knee at the end of the season,
and your coaches up there crying to you about how
thanking you, about how what you did to your bodies,
and how the time you put in.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
That just hit me all on the fields. And this
might be it for the Lions.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
You know, last year they lose to the Niners, and
Campbell says immediately afterwards, he says, you know, I told
the guys like this might be in our one shot.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
You know, you don't make it back here.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
They didn't make it back to the title game, and
now they're probably going to lose both coordinators, at least
one of them. This is going to be a whole
brand new Lions thing. There's some Jared Goff conversations to
be had. He played a really, really bad game in
the Big as the game of the Year, and I
just I'm a pile of much for Dan Campbell. I
like him, and I'm Tony sticking up for Johnny Sack
on the commander's front. The Jayden Daniels thing is not
only incredible, I want to really take moments to illustrate
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how unprecedented it is.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
He's won two playoff games as a rookie.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
They're both on the road, and I want to put
it in context because there is a formula by which
rookie quarterbacks winning the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
It is well established for years.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
You have a lights out defense and the quarterback makes
a couple of plays and he stays the hell out
of their way.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
Just don't mess this up. That's not what they're doing
at all. And I have proof.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
Look at the list of rookie quarterbacks who have started
a title game, which Jayden will do next week. Look
at their defense where they ranked that year, Rock Party first,
Sanchez third, Flack of third, Roethlisberger first, King third, Jayden
Daniels eighteenth, great shot. He has by far the weakest
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defense ever of a rookie quarterback to win in playoff games,
and starting to time.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
It's not even close.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
He has no Mark Sanchez in this thing. He has
not even Roethlisberger in this thing. He is leading the defense.
Dare say he's carrying the defense. It's never been done.
It is by far the most impressive rookie quarterback playoff
run ever.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
That stat bears it out.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
And if you want to sit her on Monday morning
and say he's gonna go into Philly and beat them,
I'm not gonna argue with you.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
I'm gonna hold it. But believe me, I am all
over Jade Danis And how could you not be? That's awesome, Jamie.
Speaker 7 (28:30):
I got three closing thoughts on the Lions. That was
a great take, by the way, and I'm fascinating to
see how it goes. Three closing takes in the Lions
as we hold off a couple of weeks talking about them. One,
I'm not convinced that Week eighteen game with the Vikings
killed both those teams. That was such a blood battle
of everything for the NFC North title, the one seed,
everything that both teams looked absolutely spent the next time
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they took the field. I thought the Vikings had nothing
against the Rams on Monday night. They didn't look like
the same team they did in in weeks one through seventeen.
And I think the Lions looked like a shell of
themselves this week. And I think a lot of it
was because they put all their emotional energy into that game,
and maybe that not the other. One second thing I'd
like to say, Ben Johnson will have a head coaching
job if he wants. Aaron Glenn despite his defense being
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carved up on Sunday, I believe we'll have a coaching job.
The brain drain is real out of Detroit. Dan Campbell
is a CEO coach. Good luck finding an offensive coordinator
like Ben Johnson. Good luck finding a defensive coordinator like
Aaron Glenn. I'm not sure if that's going to be
the biggest fallout from this loss that they didn't win
while they had those two coordinators on staff, and last
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but not least a positive, I don't know if there
is a better offensive skill position player this side of
Saquon Barkley than Jamier Gibbs.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
That freaking guy is awesome.
Speaker 7 (29:44):
I think he averaged fifteen yards per carry, unstoppable all
season long, unstoppable in the playoffs. Jamiir Gibbs was outstanding
this season. And if there's an underrated player in the NFL,
it might be number twenty six from the Detroit Lions.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
It is a pleasure to watch him.
Speaker 7 (29:59):
If I have any sadness about the Lions season being over,
it's not about the tears from Dan Campbell or what
could have been for those fans who have waited since
the Curse of Bobby Lane in nineteen fifty seven. It's
that we don't get more Jamier Gibbs, who was outstanding
all season long.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
Peter is awesome.
Speaker 4 (30:13):
Way to empty the notebook on the Lions before we
just take a beat from them for a couple of weeks.
Don't think I didn't write down the fact that people
around the league didn't appreciate the Lions.
Speaker 3 (30:22):
Bravado. I want to unpack that with.
Speaker 4 (30:23):
You a couple months through while, because that's something to
look at.
Speaker 6 (30:27):
Commanders, we see you.
Speaker 3 (30:28):
We'll see you on Sunday against Eagles VMFB.
Speaker 6 (30:32):
It's time for game balls.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
Presented by CDW Peter.
Speaker 6 (30:36):
Let's get right to it.
Speaker 4 (30:37):
I'm going to shovel this thing like the way the
Lions offenses actually a Ben Johnson that was.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
A crazy play.
Speaker 4 (30:43):
Do you have a player from Lions commanders?
Speaker 7 (30:46):
I do. I got to say that my game ball
for the entire weekend goes to the rookie quarterback who's
doing unprecedented things. No surprise here, I've been on them
all season and he was the best player this weekend.
Jayden Daniels, second rookie quarterback to defeat.
Speaker 6 (31:01):
A number one seed in the playoffs.
Speaker 7 (31:03):
He is going to stowe an NFC chape your game,
and if he wins that game, he'll be the first
rookie quarterback ever to start a Super Bowl.
Speaker 6 (31:11):
And you better believe this will not be a slam.
Speaker 7 (31:13):
Dunk victory for the Eagles, despite it being two seed
versus a sixth seed.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
Jaden brought it.
Speaker 7 (31:19):
He was outstanding yet again, and he showed the steely
confidence in the biggest moments fourth down conversions, hit Ertz
for seven yards, ran for one for three yards, hit
McLaurin for twelve yards. When it mattered most in the
biggest moments, Jaden Daniels was there.
Speaker 6 (31:35):
He's had these dramatic.
Speaker 7 (31:36):
Wins, a walk off overtime victory against the Falcons, and
of course they had to win last week against the
Buccaneers and then the Hail Mary to Noah Brown.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
Last week and on Saturday night.
Speaker 6 (31:47):
It wasn't that.
Speaker 7 (31:48):
It was an entire sixty minute experience and they dominated.
He was the better quarterback between him and a made
man Jared Goff. Jaden Daniels, my game ball, good luck
moving forward. You're doing unprecedented things. But how far can
this thing go?
Speaker 10 (31:59):
Yeah, we'll see how far goes because they got the
Eagles next, and my game ball is going to have
to go to Sakuon Barkley.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
Saquon Barkley two.
Speaker 10 (32:08):
Hundred and five yards two touchdowns against the Rams, and
we think back to what he did in the previous
matchup where he goes for two hundred and fifty five yards,
but in this game he does something like something else.
He breaks history again, breaking Van Buren's record that was
seventy six years old going for the most amount of
yards in a rushing yards in a playoff game. Saquon
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Barkley is the offense and this is a game where
we didn't see a lot of production out of aj Brown,
Devonte Smith, the guys who've been stud wide receivers for
the Philadelphia Eagles when they needed him.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
He continues to show up.
Speaker 10 (32:42):
This is not just a game ball, but this is
a recognition of, like this acquisition of Saquon Barkley, what
he means to this franchise. Everything goes through Sakuon Barkley.
Congratulations Saquon Barkley. To me, you are the record holder
right here, man. So here's the game ball, man.
Speaker 4 (32:58):
My game ball goes on the show and in the NFL.
If you watch football in the last couple of years,
a moment in time, it's just like that thing that
kind of gives you a lump in your throat when
you're watching it happen. And the fact that it is
a continued success story is really remarkable. My game ball
goes to DeMar Hamlin. Two years ago January second, twenty
twenty three, DeMar Hamlin had to be resuscitated on a
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field during the regular season. It took all of us
a long time to come back from that. The fact
that this young man is playing, not only still playing,
he had hell of a season for this Bill's defense.
He has a force fumble against lamar Von Miller, scoops
it up, runs a back thirty nine yard sets up
a Josh Allen rushing TV Tomorr Hamlin's been playing pretty
well for him to show up in a playoff game.
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Lift this Bill's defense and Bill's defense that Josh Allen
credited in the postgame interview. Tomor Hamlin, you get my
game ball. I honestly cannot believe what you are doing.
You are a heck of a story and you are
really fun to watch.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
Yeah, it's a good choice, Jamie, and listen, I'm giving
mine to Travis Kelce. Some incredible in this game. There
was a time I remember it well where Travis Kelce
was known as an all time great football player with
an incredible personality. Then something shifted and he became an
international celebrity who was on the cover of US Weekly
and my eight year old daughter knows about. There are
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times where he just comes out and says, no, no,
that's all great. I am still one of the best
football players to ever live, and I'm gonna do my
playoff thing.
Speaker 5 (34:23):
This weekend was one of those times. They couldn't stop him.
They couldn't guard him. Listen, he doesn't have the most
spring in his step. He's not running away from everybody.
He's just wide ass open whenever.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
He felt like it against a very good Texas defense,
and he ate them up. With the Bills coming next week,
It's Kelsey season everybody. And I don't mean podcasts and
commercials and world tours. I mean just going on the
football field and wearing out a defense trying to stop him.
He does it better than anybody who's ever played the position.
Kelsey my game ball.
Speaker 4 (34:53):
I was stunned when he just stared down at that
defender who fell on the ground. He caught that touchdown again,
like it's hard. There's our game balls, presented by CDW
here at GMFB. Look at that postseason lineup.
Speaker 10 (35:17):
Fall from the first day we got to go wall
anybody anywhere?
Speaker 7 (35:32):
I read someone who can't feel good watching those highlights
there in the locker room.
Speaker 3 (35:37):
That was Dan Quinn.
Speaker 7 (35:38):
He has won Coach of the Week on this show
several times over this week. Our coach of the Week
from the Divisional round is his offensive coordinator Cliff Kingsbury,
for putting on an absolute show in Detroit against the
prince of everybody. Ben Johnson over on the other sideline.
All we heard about all season is what a genius
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Ben Johnson is. Ben Johnson's offense scored points. They scored
thirty one.
Speaker 6 (36:01):
They were good.
Speaker 7 (36:02):
Cliff's offense was Betterff Kingsbury's offense puts up all these
points in this game, but they also went for it
on fourth down four different times and converted on three
of them. They also had the big third down and
five play. They threw the ball to Baits, the fullback
on a full back corner. Look at these numbers, no
sacks allowed and no turnovers. Sam Cosmy is their best
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offensive lineman. Goes down with an injury early on and
they just keep on moving. I will say this because
I thought Rob Gronkowski was very eloquent on the Fox.
Speaker 3 (36:35):
Postgame show afterwards.
Speaker 7 (36:37):
In a world where teams are interviewing fifteen coaching candidates,
and in a world where the Bears just interviewed Eddie
George and several other outside the box candidates, Cliff Kingsbury
has not been requested to interview with the Dallas Cowboys,
the Jacksonville Jaguars, the Las Vegas Raiders, or the New
York Jets. I don't know a guy with some head
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coaching experience and just ran circles around everybody's darling offensive
coordinator and on Aaron Glenn, who's everyone's darling defensive coordinator.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
I'll take a stand.
Speaker 7 (37:07):
I think Cliff Kingsbary deserves a few interview requests from
the teams that haven't bothered fifteen interview slips, and yet
Cliff can't get one interesting.
Speaker 6 (37:14):
I don't know.
Speaker 7 (37:15):
That's my Coach of the Week award and a statement
for Cliff Kingsbury to get at some interviews for a
head coach.
Speaker 14 (37:21):
I'm right there with you, Peter, hence why I'm wearing
the commander's jacket today.
Speaker 3 (37:24):
I see you, DMV.
Speaker 14 (37:26):
I can tell you as someone who has lived there,
this means a lot to this fan base. And I
was hoping they're going to be playing next door against
the Rams.
Speaker 2 (37:33):
But with no luck.
Speaker 14 (37:35):
The two touchdown passes against the Eagles on Sunday. Now,
Matthew Stafford he is tied with our very own Kurt
Warner for most touchdown passes in Rams playoff history, but
they lost, so his future in Los Angeles is now
up in the air.
Speaker 3 (37:48):
He addressed this situation after the game.
Speaker 6 (37:50):
Listen, Proud to.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
Be associated with this group.
Speaker 15 (37:54):
Coaching staff, you know, front office, group of players, training staff, equipment, guys, everybody. Man,
it was a hell of an effort all year to
get to this point. You know, anytime you play like
this and get into the playoffs and get a win
and keep it moving, you know, it's anytime you come
up short, it's it's it's even tougher, you know, And
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so that's that's difficult.
Speaker 2 (38:16):
But so proud to be associated with this group.
Speaker 15 (38:19):
And you know, as far as my future goes, I mean,
it's thirty minutes after the last game, so I'll take
some time to think about it.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
But uh, I feel like I was playing some pretty
good ball.
Speaker 7 (38:29):
You got football left in you?
Speaker 15 (38:31):
Sure feels like it.
Speaker 14 (38:32):
Yeah, as much as we celebrate the winners, there are
might be some changing of the guard coming up next door.
And look at some of the plays that how does
scratching our heads.
Speaker 2 (38:40):
Will take you back down? That's coming up next.
Speaker 4 (38:44):
Head scratchers, It's time for that. On GMFB. Here's some
weird stuff during football. You say some weird stuff, you
see weird stuff.
Speaker 6 (38:52):
It also happens on the show.
Speaker 3 (38:53):
Come here, Come here, Come here?
Speaker 12 (38:56):
What is this?
Speaker 6 (38:57):
What is happening here?
Speaker 2 (38:57):
What head scratcher?
Speaker 6 (38:59):
Talk to me, Kyle?
Speaker 2 (39:00):
What is that?
Speaker 6 (39:01):
What is going on?
Speaker 2 (39:02):
So I I look like I'm standing at a bus
stop in Buffalo right now?
Speaker 1 (39:07):
Or do I look like one of the stard tackles
on the bills team show me Jordan Phillips before they.
Speaker 2 (39:13):
Look at it with the coat, with the coat under.
Speaker 5 (39:16):
The sauce and Taysom jersey with the big old like
furry little pelt on the hood and everything that was.
Speaker 2 (39:22):
In before the game.
Speaker 5 (39:23):
It looks like like his mom got him dressed to
go to school, like Randy and.
Speaker 2 (39:28):
A Christmas story or something. I can't put my arms down.
Speaker 5 (39:32):
I also like that, like teams come into the stadium,
the visiting team, they try to be all cool and
those shirt lists all that.
Speaker 2 (39:37):
He's like, Hell no, I live here. I know what
the deal is.
Speaker 5 (39:40):
I am putting my coat on and I'm gonna walk
around like I own this place. So I'm gonna do
it now. I'm gonna do it here for the like,
for the rest of the segment, maybe.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
The rest of the show. It feels good. I feel comfortable.
Speaker 5 (39:51):
I got my Jersey here, I got my cords coming
out of the place, and I do really feel like
I'm about four hundred pounds, so he must have thought
be six hundred.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
It's a good look though, right.
Speaker 7 (39:59):
I just love that Matt Collins comes in with a
Hawaii shirt and a in his shirtless with no shoes on.
Speaker 3 (40:06):
But Jordan Philp's like, I'm not proving anything to anybody.
Speaker 6 (40:09):
I'm wearing a big old golden Goose.
Speaker 3 (40:11):
Jacket or whatever it is Canada Goose.
Speaker 7 (40:14):
This is my head scratcher because we have this guy
Jared Verse talks.
Speaker 6 (40:18):
All that smack and then doesn't laugh, and then.
Speaker 7 (40:21):
Here Jayden Carter's like, when you put your playoff bonus
on it, I don't know. I love the fact that
Verse talk smack and then walked around. Sometimes you need
a villain, Jared Versus like, I'll do that. It was
all in good good faith. These guys are young stars.
Carter and Verse both first round picks in the past
two years, having a couple of words, it's.
Speaker 2 (40:39):
All in good sport.
Speaker 7 (40:40):
But to tell the Philly fans you hate them and
then to go do the hul Cogan, can I hear you?
And then to go out and have two sacks and
be awesome. I'm here for the Jared verse.
Speaker 4 (40:48):
Also, we've had a full season of Tom Brady in
the booth on Fox, and I guess you could say
that the color commentator is slowly getting more comfortable with
his takes. When he had the audacity to say this
to Dan Quinn at the end of the Commander's win
on the Road, not.
Speaker 10 (41:03):
Sure Coach Quinn likes owners coming down on the field
before the game's over.
Speaker 2 (41:07):
She's my bad, damns. He didn't get her cards like
she's Tom.
Speaker 6 (41:13):
Did you have to do that to see you?
Speaker 4 (41:16):
Tom Brady's gonna do that game this weekend. Now are
what are they gonna shake hands with that? What is
that production meeting going to be?
Speaker 13 (41:21):
Like?
Speaker 6 (41:22):
My heads backstory?
Speaker 7 (41:23):
The backstory, Jamie, of course, is that Arthur Blank was
on the sidelines.
Speaker 10 (41:26):
They're in twenty eight to three and is walking up
and down and everyone.
Speaker 2 (41:29):
And that's where Brady's going there. That's that's all right, Yes,
I see that.
Speaker 13 (41:34):
You know.
Speaker 10 (41:34):
My head scrutcher, My head scratcher has to be Jane Daniels,
jayde and Daniels. You remember look at this second half.
This is his face second half. They're up by ten
points going to the second and he's just like yep, cool,
like get excited. I'm like, yes, come on, walked into
the Lions Den and you've literally done what a lot
of people didn't think you could do. And then here
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he is in the fourth quarter. They're up by seventeen
points with four four minutes left in the game, y'all
gonna win this, and he's sitting there like, Nope, it
ain't over yet. I mean, just that right there was
scary to watch James Daniels like that and then went
to the Lions Den.
Speaker 2 (42:11):
Come on, you should see under this disgusting
Speaker 8 (42:19):
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Speaker 2 (00:22):
Good Morning Football.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
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Speaker 4 (00:25):
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It's Monday, January twenty's. I'm Jamie Heard all years Off,
barbaj Biam Miller, Peter Schreger, Kyle Brand. We've got three
games left in the NFL season. We've got two games
left on Fox and one on CBS. Kyle, you have
a playoff beard happening. What is going on with your
facial hair? I would like you to speak to the
public about this.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Oh yeah, this is my commander's playoff beard.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
We're all, no, that's not now. I'm gronding it out
for a role. And that's this pretentious thing that actors
like to say. You're like, why is Mark Ruffalo at
the Oscars with a long beard? Always in this incredible role? Hey,
I'm grinding off for a role. I'm just gonna leave
it if that's great time, Okay, all.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
Right, stay tuned, Stay tuned until then. Kyle, please lend
your vocal talents to the highlight from last night.
Speaker 5 (01:08):
I think I will Ruffalo loved you in Last Castle
Ravens Bills is just the last stand for Buffalo at home.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
I know it's their last home game. They're trying to
go ten to zero at home for the season. But
Lamar comes in as he hasn't a playoff game before
and Buffalo and lost.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
But this is the opening drive of the game and
it was just it seemed casual. They couldn't get there.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Henry going early and it didn't matter as the Rashad
Bateman touchdown no big deal, but the Bills immediately answered
with their own touchdown drive second quarter.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Though huge play in this game.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Shout out Tomar Hamlin making a play its head Vonn Tomark.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Roden tom Mark.
Speaker 6 (01:41):
Hamlin was great blast.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
It's a critically important player for this team.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
It was always so cut up in the conversation about
tomorrow because of the incident from a couple of years ago.
But he is a really important player who made huge
plays on this night. His need to make more next
week touchdown snope blow Bills now take the lead. They
were down seven to nothing and then they cooked for
the rest of the first half. The MVP letters were out.
The votes are already in there's nothing you can do.
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I don't know if I like that system at all,
but here's another touchdown with less than a minute left
to go. In the first half, they would go into
the locker room with all the momentum and could they
run away and hide.
Speaker 7 (02:16):
With this thing?
Speaker 1 (02:17):
No, absolutely not, because the Ravens were great in the
third quarter, especially this drive was destruction. They ran, they ran,
Henry got going north and south, they scored, and they
just got all the momentum back. And it feels like
John Harbo is going to add to his all time
best list of road playoff wins.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
But the two pointer verts is aflected by Matt.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Mlano, crafty player who spent a lot of the night
spying Lamar and in that case knocking down the pass.
Fourth quarter, it is twenty four to nineteen. Bill's holding
onto that five point lead to not feel solid. But wait,
Mark Andrews venerable tight end, Torol Bernard Peter from to.
Speaker 5 (02:54):
Row, Bernard from Baylor.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Baylor, Baylor.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
He makes the play, he knocks it out, he recovers it.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
We'll see more of Mark Andrews shortly. It's not great.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Now down eight two minutes to play, Lamar just go
down the field, score and get the two point goes
right back to Andrews as he has his whole career,
same draft class.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Goes out of bounds. Time immediately is not a factor.
You think they got a hurry that No.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
In fact, they probably shouldn't slow down, not to leave
Josh anytime.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Down eight, He had all the time in the world.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
This was about a twelve second pass protection. And finally
the Bill secondary can't keep up and they go to
likely and it's a touchdown, but they're down to obviously
got to go.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
They got to go for the two point conversion, and
they have the play.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
They have the receiver Lamar roll right, there's Mark Andrews.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
He's done to a thousand times. He just dropped it.
I've watched this play fifty times now. I don't understand
what happened.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
Mark Andrews did not speak after the game, so we
don't have any answers from him. All the Ravens just
spoke up for him, and John Harbus said we would
not be here without Mark Andrews.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
But he dropped it. It is a very good player in.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
The biggest spot, imaginable, making an unthinkable mistake.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
After a couple other ones earlier in the game.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Facts, the Bills win, the Ravens are done, The Bills
are going to Arrowhead for another game against the Chiefs
twenty seven to twenty five.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
We're gonna talk about all of.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
This, especially two quarterbacks though Josh Allen and a passionate,
frustrated Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 8 (04:20):
It's a lot of everything. We're excited at, a lot
of pride in that locker room. I said it in
my post game we don't listen to the outside noise.
But everyone was saying this and that about us, and
we didn't have enough talent, weren't good enough to be
in these positions. And our guys just continue to work
hard and we're internally driven. We love each other, and
I think you saw how much we played for each
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other there for.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
The first half.
Speaker 9 (04:42):
I had two costly turnovers, me not holding the safety,
me just knowing the covered, me knowing it was a
man through a BS in the session, Gabe, it was
seven to seven at the time. I believe they scored.
Speaker 6 (04:53):
After that.
Speaker 9 (04:55):
Battle back fumble, And like I've been saying all season,
every time we had situations like this, turnovers, play fattor
Pennanties play a factor today. Well, tonight to turn over
k had it. No, that's why we left the game because,
as you can see, moving the ball wonderfully is hold
on to the ball. I'm sorry for my language, unknown Todder.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
Yeah, those three turnovers for the Baltimore Ravens matches a
season high. We last saw them suffer three against the
Pittsburgh Steelers, a game in which they lost in Week eleven,
eighteen to sixteen. So to Lamar's point, the script goes out,
if you cough the ball up that many times, especially Peter,
to a team that has another MVP potential at quarterback,
That's the way this thing is going to go. Let's
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zoom out, though, let's go legacy talk. When you look
at these two names, Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, it was
so fun to this game up. It was incredibly fun
to watch it. Now, what does it mean that we
know how it ended?
Speaker 7 (05:49):
Yeah, I'm going to focus on Lamar and Josh Allen
still has a book to be written here this season.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
He still has final chapters.
Speaker 7 (05:57):
He's going to go up against the big Boss, Patrick
Mahomes in Mahomes's stadium, and then, of course if he
gets past that, then he can go win a Super
Bowl and he can be one of those minted guys.
Lamar's going home. Lamar is going home yet again. He's
now three and five in the playoffs. And my immediate
reaction is one of football just could be really cruel sometimes,
because if you go to the second half of that game,
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let's tell the second half the stats of Lamar Jackson
and how he performed in the clutch when he was
needed most. Down eleven points going into the second half,
he went twelve to fifteen at one hundred and thirty
one passing yards, had a touchdown that was incredible when
they needed and then Mark Andrews drops that two point conversion.
Speaker 6 (06:39):
But when we look at Lamar's big.
Speaker 7 (06:41):
Picture, we're not going to be like, well, Lamar's three
and five, but like, if Andrews catches that passing no guys,
the Bills had a minute thirty three left and two timeouts,
they very well easily could have won this game, and
Lamar would have lost even.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
With this two point conversion.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
I'm the historian on the show.
Speaker 7 (06:59):
I proudly say that I would even argue I might
be the historian of NFL network at this stage in
my career. Long enough I go back and do all
this trivia, and we go back and we talk about
the history.
Speaker 6 (07:08):
Of the game.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Guys. Peyton Manning was three and six in.
Speaker 7 (07:12):
The playoffs his first six years as a pro. In
twenty four he went and they lost his third straight
road playoff game and did so twenty to three in
the snow up in New England. And that was after
winning two MVP awards. Dan Marino had a losing record
in playoff football. Dan Marino couldn't get past Jim Kelly
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in the playoffs. Dan Marino once lost thirty eight to
three to John Elway in a playoff game. Dan Marino's
final playoff game and final game as a pro as
a sixty two to seven loss to Mark Brunel and
the Jaguars in the playoffs. Lamar Jackson is not the
first quarterback to lose playoff games, and Lamar Jackson's not
going to be the last to lose playoff games to
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guys in his draft class. He's only in year seven.
I say that because I'm not making an excuse for
Lamar Jackson. I just watched how Peyton made career went
and then he beat Brady. He eventually beat Brady in
a really dramatic playoff win in Indianapolis, and he would
then go win another Super Bowl and he'd be fine.
Speaker 6 (08:14):
And though Marino had early.
Speaker 7 (08:16):
Success, he didn't ever get back to the Super Bowl.
And we still look at Dan Marino as one of
the best quarterbacks of all time. John Elway went to
the Super Bowl three times in the eighties, lost them
all and waited a decade to get back there, and
then one two and goes and retires, and we win
one for John and we carry him off our shoulders.
Lamar Jackson is just in the seventh year of his career.
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I'm going to say, instead of putting a statement down
or saying Lamar didn't win or he can't win, let's
let this breathe a little bit. We're in a different
era now. We're in the social media era and it's
the Internet era where everything has to be now and
we talk about it.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
Guys, Josh Allen couldn't win in the divisional round and
guess what he did yesterday? He got one.
Speaker 7 (08:58):
Now he goes to the AFC Championship Game and he
loses the Chiefs, like he can't beat the chief.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
Let's just slow down.
Speaker 7 (09:02):
These guys are so good, so awesome, and their careers
are still in their primes. Let's let this thing play
out a little bit. Lamar Jackson will get back to
the playoffs. I truly believe it, and then he's gonna
have a chance to write the script next year.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
It's a really nuanced take that I really respect Peter
because it doesn't have to be just binary.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
He's good or he sucks.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
It just really doesn't and then there is still room
for that kind of conversation here. I really like Kamar,
and I'm reluctant to criticize him just as kind.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Of what it's not really what we do as a show.
My bottom line is I think this is fair.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Lamar at this stage of his career, does not play
his best football in the playoffs, and I'm just to
stick to the facts. You know, the record, you know,
three and five. You see him afterwards, and that press
conference was so telling. It felt like that wasn't a
press conference. He was still there looking in the mirror
like mad at himself and swearing, why am I doing this?
You know, he says I threw a BS interception. This
guy through four interceptions in eighteen games before the weekend.
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He doesn't throw bs interceptions. And right now the legacy
is like, he's probably going to win MVP and he's
going to become the first ever three time MVP to
never even play in a super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
That's not great.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
It's every guy who has won three MVPs is not
a very big club. They've all at least been in
a super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
He has not.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
In the playoffs, Lamar has thirteen total touchdowns.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
He has eleven turnovers. It's not good.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
And there is something with Lamar where he is incredibly
likable and personally. I've just gotten so much enjoyment from
watching him over the weekend that I don't go like
to get my pick acts and start swinging at him.
But if those stats were reversed and Alan had the
interception of the fumble, I think there'd be a little
more criticism. You know, everyone just waits to kick someone
like Justin Herbert and the Groin fifty times and make
memes about how funny is. Those are easy targets. Lamar
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deserves some too, because if you're going to be critical
and you're going to be fair, he's a fantastic player.
Who just had one of the best regular seasons of
all time. He has proven, not once, not twice, several
times over that he does not play his best football
in the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
That's it, but a great second half made up for it.
Did not play his best game.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
On the flip side, I think the legacy for Josh
Allen yesterday. I think yesterday it means nothing. Nothing, And
I say that as a Josh Allen enthusiast. I feel
like it is nothing. It is all next week. If
they lose to the Chiefs, knows me. But they did
beat Lamar in the division No, no, no, no, no,
He's beat Lamar in the playoffs before, he's won the
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divisional before. I would look at if as a Bill's fan,
Bill's player, and I've certainly Josh Allen himself. Great, we
won the Divisional at home. That means nothing. We have
a score to settle. I have a score to settle
with that quarterback, with that team, with that stadium, with
that fan base, with everything. That is what I'm about,
and then I'll take care of New Orleans if I
get through there divisional round. I'm above that. I've been
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in this league a long time. That is nothing that
I'm celebrating. I'm not breaking tables and playing the music
and eating chicken wings because we beat the Ravens in
the divisional I think that did nothing.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
And I mean that as a compliment and what I
respect to have for him. It's all next week. It's
everything is next week.
Speaker 10 (12:00):
It should all weigh on next week, Kyle, because you know, oh,
win three against the Kansas City Chiefs, you know, in
the playoffs, and you think about that history. So Josh
Allen's story is still being written as far as his legacy,
and it's going to come down to that game. But
you know, when you go back to Lamar and I
think there are going to be a lot of those
you know, fans out there, the people who just felt it.
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Especially you bring in Dereck Henry into the mix, and
you go, this was it. This was supposed to be
the opportunity we're supposed to have. I know, all year long,
I'd been making the comparison to you know, Lamar Jackson
and Dereck Henry with the equivalents of Kobe Bryant and
Shaquille O'Neill. Well, I bring in another basketball analogy. You know,
we all are familiar with the great Michael Jordan. It
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took Michael Jordan's seven seasons before he was able to
win his first NBA championship. He had gone to the
playoffs several times and hadn't He hadn't been able to
get just to that point. And so I guess what
I'm trying to say to everyone else out there, it
takes time, especially when you're talking about something so great.
We all, we all will say and held that Michael
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Jordan is the greatest basketball player of all time. Now
there's some arguments in between there, but you get the
point in that Lamar Jackson's story isn't finished in year seven.
He's got a lot more left in him. And I
think he's going to make the necessary adjustments. You know,
Michael Jordan had to make the necessary adjustments in his
game where there was the weight room stuff and getting
back and figure out what does he need to do
to take out the guys who are on the top.
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He knows what that's going to be, you know, coming
into the next season. So I think his story and
his legacy for Lamar Jackson is, yes, we know about
the athleticism, it's going to be getting over the adversity
and being failing over and over and over again, and
hopefully in.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
Next season we see him succeed.
Speaker 10 (13:42):
But his legacy will be how he came overcame all
this adversity in his first seven years, because that's a lot,
that's a lot of losing an he can weigh on
the average person, will that will weigh on them where
they just start to feel like it becomes a self
fulfilling Prophey, I can't do it. I can't do it.
I can't do it. I don't think Lamar Jackson is
that guy he can do it.
Speaker 7 (13:59):
As we're listening about this, Lamar's I like, go ask
a Raiders fan right now, or go ask a Browns
fan or a Giants fan if they'd sign up to
have Lamar Jackson as their quarterback and put and put
him them into the playoffs everything. I think we've had
that perspective here. Lamar in the all time greats. As
Kyle said, if he wins his third MVP, you have
to consider him an all time great. He just hasn't
had that big playoff win yet. And I know that's
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that's maybe an easy take and hotcast.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
The Ravens fans how they feel today with Lamar like
he's incredible glad to have them.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Of course they're thrilled to have them.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
But there's something flawed going on, and that doesn't mean
he can't grow out of it, but it also doesn't
mean he will grow out of it.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
You know what you talked about, Michael Jordan.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
Maybe he's Charles Barkley and Karl Malone and all those guys,
and that's fine, there's nothing wrong with that. Though those
guys are Hall of famers. It doesn't mean he's going
to win a Super Bowl. It doesn't mean he's going
to beat the Chiefs. Doesn't mean Josh Allen is either.
Sometimes it's just Larren.
Speaker 7 (14:49):
Moon never went to the AFC championship game, Dan Fouch
never went to the Super Bowl.
Speaker 6 (14:54):
Dan Marino only went to one.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
They're all Hall of famers, they are.
Speaker 4 (14:58):
There is also a guy elsewhere in the AFC who's
wearing a lot of rings, smoking a lot of cigars,
and wearing his hat tipped off to the side too,
when he gets his title games. So you got to
pay attention to what the Chiefs.
Speaker 6 (15:06):
Have going on.
Speaker 4 (15:07):
When you're talking about legacy as a quarterback, specifically in
the AFC, it's tough to compare yourself to him.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Ian Rappaport, good morning to you. Let's flip to the
NFC side.
Speaker 4 (15:15):
Jalen Hurts appear to injure his knee on Sunday. He
played through the pain, but luckily for the Eagles, they
got to play again next week.
Speaker 6 (15:22):
What's going on? Yes, that is the good news.
Speaker 11 (15:25):
Now, Jalen Hurts's availability does not seem to be in
doubt for next week. Just listen to what he told reporters.
Is asked, are you going to be limited this week?
He said, you know, we'll see how the week goes,
and indication yeah, I think he probably will be somewhat limited.
He noticed that he was able to finish the game,
which generally is a very very good signed. Jalen Hurts
hates talking about his injuries, hates dealing with his injuries.
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Has no problem with that, but of course it is
going to be a topic of what should be a tense,
awkward week in Philadelphia. He was asked, is he confident
that he will be out there? He said simply, yeah,
I would expect Jalen Hurts to play. The real question
is will he be able to run like normal Ken
a week of rest and rehab and work on his
knee get him to a place where he could still
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be that weapon on the ground. That was not the
only injury to a significant player for the Philadelphia Eagles.
Quinion Mitchell, the really really good rookie corner, was actually
ruled out yesterday with a shoulder injury, which usually is
a bad sign for a player's availability the next week.
Put Mitchell talked to reporters after the game, said he
believes it is a minor injury, said.
Speaker 6 (16:29):
He should be good there.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
It is right there, should be good for next week.
Speaker 11 (16:33):
Mike Garratfollo citing a source echoing that saying it is
not a major injury. So we'll see how the week
of rehab goes. But there is a very real possibility
he goes out both of these guys on Sunday.
Speaker 4 (16:44):
Oh man, that would be good for Eagles fans because
they have a familiar foe coming to town one week
from yesterday.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Ian Rappaport, thank.
Speaker 6 (16:51):
You so much.
Speaker 4 (16:52):
It was an unbelievable night in Detroit for that guy.
The rookie quarterback for the Commanders, Kyle jan Daniels. We
said it before, he is the best debut rookie season
since I don't know, Briden Presidice, what was that parallel
you made on Friday?
Speaker 1 (17:09):
Yeah, eighteen nineteen, Jane Austen dropped Send Some Sensibility as
her debut novel. I think Jaydon Daniels is having to
send some sensibility type season. It's really been that good
and he just keeps winning. Plus no sense in stopping him.
Jared Verse try, he couldn't do it.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
No one can do it.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
Sae Kwon Barkley, Is he gonna run all the way
to New Orleans?
Speaker 2 (17:28):
Did anybody have a better performance than he did? Over
the weekend? We'll get into a GMFB.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
Good mon football.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
Here we go Commander's Lions, Lions in the number.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
One seed for the first time in franchise history, and
here come the Commanders with this wild rookie quarterback already
leading seventeen fourteen golf, just way over the target's head.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
He was going for.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
Tim Patrick is intercepted by Kwan Martin.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
Is he gonna house this thing? He sure is? That
is a pick six?
Speaker 1 (18:03):
And you, like you were watching something crazy about to happen.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
It was gone.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
This thing was off the tracks from the get go
Golf took a massive hit at the end of the play.
I think he was never the same, but he threw
that interception before the hit. Then you hit Ertz touchdown.
Aaron Glenn really had nothing for the Commanders all day.
Neither did his defense. More injuries for the Lions. We'll
talk about it. Fourth quarter, Lions down ten and this
is when they bust out.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
This on first and ten.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
Jamison Williams just therees, a terrible interception and finally the
trick play well dried. There's Ben Johnson is probably gonna
be hired as a head coach in the next twenty minutes.
Delvy is last game with the Lions because they're not
playing next week.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
Jeremy McNichols says, see you later.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
A tough guy touchdown and the ultimate tough guy team,
so we thought, gets pushed around in their own house.
The Lions are won and done and the future is
Jaden's Jamee's going into Philadelphia next week as a superstar.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Forty five to thirty one.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
It was really never close and after the game, watch
the emotions coming through the screen.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
Right now Commanders and Lions.
Speaker 12 (19:07):
Feels good for real moment, just for you know, Washington
fan base, hold BMV. You know, this is just awesome feeling.
I always believe that we could achieve more than what
people give us credit for. But you know, you got
to go out there putting the work. You got to
go out there work daily, get better each and every day,
and just put your head go on the grind.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
And by then the time of the season you look up,
you might be in.
Speaker 13 (19:28):
Position like this and you lose these games. Man, just
like the players, you know what they put into it.
A lot of people don't know. You know what they
go through. You have to get up. Bodies beat you,
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you know, mentally, stay locked in and do those things.
It's my fault.
Speaker 8 (19:55):
You know.
Speaker 4 (19:56):
Max Crosby was with us on Friday and he spoke
wonderfully about how much he appreciates the way that Dan
Campbell loves his players, and you could hear it in
that final press confer After just a hell of a
loss for the Detroit Lions, the Commanders come in and
become just the third team in NFL history to have
thirteen or more losses the year before and find themselves
playing in a conference championship game. Peter, A lot of
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this most of this has to do with just lightning
in a bottle, having a rookie quarterback in Jade Daniels,
and everything this team has been able to accomplish.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
He's awesome.
Speaker 7 (20:26):
And they have a new head coach, a new offensive coordinator,
a new special teams coordinator, about fifteen different veterans that
signed us free agents and no one else wanted.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
And they just beat the number one seed in their building.
And they did so by going for it.
Speaker 7 (20:39):
We heard so much about how the Lions go for
it on fourth down and then they've got their.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
Foot on the pedal.
Speaker 7 (20:44):
How about this second quarter, fourth and three from the
Detroit nine. This didn't work out, and everyone at home
is like, what aren't snow commanders do it?
Speaker 2 (20:52):
Guys?
Speaker 6 (20:53):
They knew this was going to be a shootout.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
They went forward on fourth down.
Speaker 6 (20:56):
It was a mistake.
Speaker 7 (20:56):
Brian Robinson didn't go in the right direction. This sposed
to be a flip back to Jaden. Didn't happen that did?
I mean they shied away? Third quarter, minute forty seven left,
fourth and two for the Ner sixteen.
Speaker 6 (21:06):
Let's go for it, they do.
Speaker 7 (21:09):
Then it's fourth quarter, eight twenty four left, Let's go
for it.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
Then again, here it's Daniels to McLaurin on a huge
fourth and two.
Speaker 6 (21:18):
Let's go for it. They went for it.
Speaker 7 (21:23):
They didn't leave it there. And of course you get
this one when they needed it most. And it's the
third and five, and who are they throwing to Baits
the fullback on third and five who did.
Speaker 6 (21:35):
Very little in the passing game all season.
Speaker 7 (21:37):
They dialed up for him on a full back corner
route that sent the Lions packing. They went for it.
They left it all out there. They didn't leave anything
in the bag. That is a dan Quinn football team.
That is a football team that knows they're the sixth seed,
and why not let's just go for it.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
I love that style of play.
Speaker 7 (21:55):
It doesn't fit every fan base and it doesn't fit
every team, but I don't think the Commanders know any
different way. They're just in their first season as a
group together. They have won now seven games, seven regular
season and playoff games. In the final thirty second, this
wasn't one of them. This was one that they had
in hand with minutes left to go, and they send
the mighty Lions packing, who, by the way, had.
Speaker 6 (22:18):
A bit of bravado this season.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
They talked a lot.
Speaker 6 (22:21):
Herbie Joseph talks a lot.
Speaker 7 (22:23):
Dan Campbell brought in Kevin O'Connell and said, we'll see
it in two weeks.
Speaker 6 (22:26):
Well, neither one of those.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
Guys are playing in the NFC Championship game.
Speaker 7 (22:29):
People were watching around the league. Some of that bravado
wasn't as well received as it was last year when
they were America's darling team.
Speaker 10 (22:37):
Yeah, this whole thing, Peter, want to look at the
Commanders and I look at this game. It was the
game that got me the most excited. And I think
a lot of that is because of the story behind
the Commanders that we just talked about, but also too
when you look at what they did during the regular season.
They had the four winsday, they came from behind. In
the playoffs, they started off come from behind like this
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has been a story about a team to me that
all season long is their ability to respond. And I
take you to the second quarter because there was a
series of plays that showed you exactly like you look.
Speaker 6 (23:09):
At this screenplay right here.
Speaker 10 (23:10):
This is coming off of you know, the Porters scoring
that one handed touchdown to put the Lions up fourteen
to ten, and then they respond with this play and
the screenplay to McLaurin, and then come back around what
are the what did the Lions do? They shoot it
down there and oh no, here we go. Here comes
another big interception right here by Kwon Martin. He intercepts
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that high throw and over this zone play and they
come in at score. But again the Lions, they come back,
and it was the it was the commander's ability to
keep responding to the highest score team in the NFL
with this, which is the Detroit Lions, and the speed
that they had and they weren't scared at all. Jaydon
Danny's going, okay, cool, I got something for that too.
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And this is again all in the second quarter. It
was this back and forth, back and forth. He drops
his dime down to Dianmie Brown and you're saying to yourself,
what I'm witnessing is that this say is like Rocky
Balboa going up against Ivan Dragle and.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
Just keep taking a hit and keeps punching back.
Speaker 10 (24:09):
And that's what they did. And I love this about
this team. But it's not lost on me when I
talk about this team and we talk about Jayden Daniels,
Jadan Daniels is very open about his faith, and I
can't help but to make the parallel. You know, in
the Book of Daniel, of course, Daniel go it gets
thrown into the lions den and no one believes that
he can make it out, and he makes it out.
(24:31):
And then here comes Jayden Daniels going into the Detroit
lions Den and he finds himself out of there. He
gets himself out, and it's all on this rookie quarterback.
There are not a lot of rookie quarterbacks. You can
go back in the history and Peter, you can help
me out with this one. There are not a lot
of yeah we did Cherokee's that have done this, and
you put it on your back. I mean, this is
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a team that had nothing. He walks in and he's
doing it on his back. I don't want I'm super
excited about this one, and I'm not trying to get political.
It's I know it's the inauguration today and all of
that stuff. But when I look at Jayden Daniel going
from the number two pick, now I believe that he
could get and become take the Commanders to be the
number two team in the in the championship between them.
(25:13):
So I'm gonna go ahead, and I'm gonna call it
Commander's in Chief. That's exactly how I see this going,
because I am all in on the Washington Commanders going
all the way to the super Bowl based off of
what I saw in that second quarter.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
All right, it's in Monday, nine eight nine am. I cockbire,
locked in knockbar. We got a whole week to talk
about this game.
Speaker 6 (25:31):
It's over.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
He's going to Philadelphia. Listen. I feel you too.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
I feel the excitement about Jay and Daniel as much
as anybody else.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
You know.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
I was thinking about Campbell though, and we just played
this clip. If he loses and he's so emotional and
he's crying, I'm thinking of Johnny sacks daughters. Okay, sopranos,
and Johnny Sacks starts crying at the wedding and then
they go to phill Leotardo afterwards and he says, I'll
tell you one thing, I'm not afraid to say it.
My estimation of John Sacrimony as a man just plummeted.
(26:00):
And then Tony says, who whoa, whoa wha because he's crying.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
Yeah, he's cry.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
Yeah, when it comes to daughters, all bets are off.
I feel like Tony watching Dan Campbell, and I know
Peter pointed out that the Canda Lions were pretty arrogant
this year and they finally got what's coming to him.
I'm a big pile of mushy gonna Dan Campbell cry.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
I love this team. I love as hard as they fought.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
The injury is over and over and over on defense,
and their goal was just to try to outscore everybody.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
They couldn't do it.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
But if you are a former NFL player, or you
played in college, or you played in high school, I
bet you have been in a room and a locker room,
maybe taking a knee at the end of the season,
and your coaches up there crying to you about how
thanking you, about how what you did to your bodies,
and how the time you put in.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
That just hit me all on the fields. And this
might be it for the Lions.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
You know, last year they lose to the Niners, and
Campbell says immediately afterwards, he says, you know, I told
the guys like this might be in our one shot.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
You know, you don't make it back here.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
They didn't make it back to the title game, and
now they're probably going to lose both coordinators, at least
one of them. This is going to be a whole
brand new Lions thing. There's some Jared Goff conversations to
be had. He played a really, really bad game in
the Big as the game of the Year, and I
just I'm a pile of much for Dan Campbell. I
like him, and I'm Tony sticking up for Johnny Sack
on the commander's front. The Jayden Daniels thing is not
only incredible, I want to really take moments to illustrate
(27:16):
how unprecedented it is.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
He's won two playoff games as a rookie.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
They're both on the road, and I want to put
it in context because there is a formula by which
rookie quarterbacks winning the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
It is well established for years.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
You have a lights out defense and the quarterback makes
a couple of plays and he stays the hell out
of their way.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
Just don't mess this up. That's not what they're doing
at all. And I have proof.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
Look at the list of rookie quarterbacks who have started
a title game, which Jayden will do next week. Look
at their defense where they ranked that year, Rock Party first,
Sanchez third, Flack of third, Roethlisberger first, King third, Jayden
Daniels eighteenth, great shot. He has by far the weakest
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defense ever of a rookie quarterback to win in playoff games,
and starting to time.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
It's not even close.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
He has no Mark Sanchez in this thing. He has
not even Roethlisberger in this thing. He is leading the defense.
Dare say he's carrying the defense. It's never been done.
It is by far the most impressive rookie quarterback playoff
run ever.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
That stat bears it out.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
And if you want to sit her on Monday morning
and say he's gonna go into Philly and beat them,
I'm not gonna argue with you.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
I'm gonna hold it. But believe me, I am all
over Jade Danis And how could you not be? That's awesome, Jamie.
Speaker 7 (28:30):
I got three closing thoughts on the Lions. That was
a great take, by the way, and I'm fascinating to
see how it goes. Three closing takes in the Lions
as we hold off a couple of weeks talking about them. One,
I'm not convinced that Week eighteen game with the Vikings
killed both those teams. That was such a blood battle
of everything for the NFC North title, the one seed,
everything that both teams looked absolutely spent the next time
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they took the field. I thought the Vikings had nothing
against the Rams on Monday night. They didn't look like
the same team they did in in weeks one through seventeen.
And I think the Lions looked like a shell of
themselves this week. And I think a lot of it
was because they put all their emotional energy into that game,
and maybe that not the other. One second thing I'd
like to say, Ben Johnson will have a head coaching
job if he wants. Aaron Glenn despite his defense being
(29:14):
carved up on Sunday, I believe we'll have a coaching job.
The brain drain is real out of Detroit. Dan Campbell
is a CEO coach. Good luck finding an offensive coordinator
like Ben Johnson. Good luck finding a defensive coordinator like
Aaron Glenn. I'm not sure if that's going to be
the biggest fallout from this loss that they didn't win
while they had those two coordinators on staff, and last
(29:34):
but not least a positive, I don't know if there
is a better offensive skill position player this side of
Saquon Barkley than Jamier Gibbs.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
That freaking guy is awesome.
Speaker 7 (29:44):
I think he averaged fifteen yards per carry, unstoppable all
season long, unstoppable in the playoffs. Jamiir Gibbs was outstanding
this season. And if there's an underrated player in the NFL,
it might be number twenty six from the Detroit Lions.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
It is a pleasure to watch him.
Speaker 7 (29:59):
If I have any sadness about the Lions season being over,
it's not about the tears from Dan Campbell or what
could have been for those fans who have waited since
the Curse of Bobby Lane in nineteen fifty seven. It's
that we don't get more Jamier Gibbs, who was outstanding
all season long.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
Peter is awesome.
Speaker 4 (30:13):
Way to empty the notebook on the Lions before we
just take a beat from them for a couple of weeks.
Don't think I didn't write down the fact that people
around the league didn't appreciate the Lions.
Speaker 3 (30:22):
Bravado. I want to unpack that with.
Speaker 4 (30:23):
You a couple months through while, because that's something to
look at.
Speaker 6 (30:27):
Commanders, we see you.
Speaker 3 (30:28):
We'll see you on Sunday against Eagles VMFB.
Speaker 6 (30:32):
It's time for game balls.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
Presented by CDW Peter.
Speaker 6 (30:36):
Let's get right to it.
Speaker 4 (30:37):
I'm going to shovel this thing like the way the
Lions offenses actually a Ben Johnson that was.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
A crazy play.
Speaker 4 (30:43):
Do you have a player from Lions commanders?
Speaker 7 (30:46):
I do. I got to say that my game ball
for the entire weekend goes to the rookie quarterback who's
doing unprecedented things. No surprise here, I've been on them
all season and he was the best player this weekend.
Jayden Daniels, second rookie quarterback to defeat.
Speaker 6 (31:01):
A number one seed in the playoffs.
Speaker 7 (31:03):
He is going to stowe an NFC chape your game,
and if he wins that game, he'll be the first
rookie quarterback ever to start a Super Bowl.
Speaker 6 (31:11):
And you better believe this will not be a slam.
Speaker 7 (31:13):
Dunk victory for the Eagles, despite it being two seed
versus a sixth seed.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
Jaden brought it.
Speaker 7 (31:19):
He was outstanding yet again, and he showed the steely
confidence in the biggest moments fourth down conversions, hit Ertz
for seven yards, ran for one for three yards, hit
McLaurin for twelve yards. When it mattered most in the
biggest moments, Jaden Daniels was there.
Speaker 6 (31:35):
He's had these dramatic.
Speaker 7 (31:36):
Wins, a walk off overtime victory against the Falcons, and
of course they had to win last week against the
Buccaneers and then the Hail Mary to Noah Brown.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
Last week and on Saturday night.
Speaker 6 (31:47):
It wasn't that.
Speaker 7 (31:48):
It was an entire sixty minute experience and they dominated.
He was the better quarterback between him and a made
man Jared Goff. Jaden Daniels, my game ball, good luck
moving forward. You're doing unprecedented things. But how far can
this thing go?
Speaker 10 (31:59):
Yeah, we'll see how far goes because they got the
Eagles next, and my game ball is going to have
to go to Sakuon Barkley.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
Saquon Barkley two.
Speaker 10 (32:08):
Hundred and five yards two touchdowns against the Rams, and
we think back to what he did in the previous
matchup where he goes for two hundred and fifty five yards,
but in this game he does something like something else.
He breaks history again, breaking Van Buren's record that was
seventy six years old going for the most amount of
yards in a rushing yards in a playoff game. Saquon
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Barkley is the offense and this is a game where
we didn't see a lot of production out of aj Brown,
Devonte Smith, the guys who've been stud wide receivers for
the Philadelphia Eagles when they needed him.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
He continues to show up.
Speaker 10 (32:42):
This is not just a game ball, but this is
a recognition of, like this acquisition of Saquon Barkley, what
he means to this franchise. Everything goes through Sakuon Barkley.
Congratulations Saquon Barkley. To me, you are the record holder
right here, man. So here's the game ball, man.
Speaker 4 (32:58):
My game ball goes on the show and in the NFL.
If you watch football in the last couple of years,
a moment in time, it's just like that thing that
kind of gives you a lump in your throat when
you're watching it happen. And the fact that it is
a continued success story is really remarkable. My game ball
goes to DeMar Hamlin. Two years ago January second, twenty
twenty three, DeMar Hamlin had to be resuscitated on a
(33:19):
field during the regular season. It took all of us
a long time to come back from that. The fact
that this young man is playing, not only still playing,
he had hell of a season for this Bill's defense.
He has a force fumble against lamar Von Miller, scoops
it up, runs a back thirty nine yard sets up
a Josh Allen rushing TV Tomorr Hamlin's been playing pretty
well for him to show up in a playoff game.
(33:42):
Lift this Bill's defense and Bill's defense that Josh Allen
credited in the postgame interview. Tomor Hamlin, you get my
game ball. I honestly cannot believe what you are doing.
You are a heck of a story and you are
really fun to watch.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
Yeah, it's a good choice, Jamie, and listen, I'm giving
mine to Travis Kelce. Some incredible in this game. There
was a time I remember it well where Travis Kelce
was known as an all time great football player with
an incredible personality. Then something shifted and he became an
international celebrity who was on the cover of US Weekly
and my eight year old daughter knows about. There are
(34:16):
times where he just comes out and says, no, no,
that's all great. I am still one of the best
football players to ever live, and I'm gonna do my
playoff thing.
Speaker 5 (34:23):
This weekend was one of those times. They couldn't stop him.
They couldn't guard him. Listen, he doesn't have the most
spring in his step. He's not running away from everybody.
He's just wide ass open whenever.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
He felt like it against a very good Texas defense,
and he ate them up. With the Bills coming next week,
It's Kelsey season everybody. And I don't mean podcasts and
commercials and world tours. I mean just going on the
football field and wearing out a defense trying to stop him.
He does it better than anybody who's ever played the position.
Kelsey my game ball.
Speaker 4 (34:53):
I was stunned when he just stared down at that
defender who fell on the ground. He caught that touchdown again,
like it's hard. There's our game balls, presented by CDW
here at GMFB. Look at that postseason lineup.
Speaker 10 (35:17):
Fall from the first day we got to go wall
anybody anywhere?
Speaker 7 (35:32):
I read someone who can't feel good watching those highlights
there in the locker room.
Speaker 3 (35:37):
That was Dan Quinn.
Speaker 7 (35:38):
He has won Coach of the Week on this show
several times over this week. Our coach of the Week
from the Divisional round is his offensive coordinator Cliff Kingsbury,
for putting on an absolute show in Detroit against the
prince of everybody. Ben Johnson over on the other sideline.
All we heard about all season is what a genius
(35:58):
Ben Johnson is. Ben Johnson's offense scored points. They scored
thirty one.
Speaker 6 (36:01):
They were good.
Speaker 7 (36:02):
Cliff's offense was Betterff Kingsbury's offense puts up all these
points in this game, but they also went for it
on fourth down four different times and converted on three
of them. They also had the big third down and
five play. They threw the ball to Baits, the fullback
on a full back corner. Look at these numbers, no
sacks allowed and no turnovers. Sam Cosmy is their best
(36:26):
offensive lineman. Goes down with an injury early on and
they just keep on moving. I will say this because
I thought Rob Gronkowski was very eloquent on the Fox.
Speaker 3 (36:35):
Postgame show afterwards.
Speaker 7 (36:37):
In a world where teams are interviewing fifteen coaching candidates,
and in a world where the Bears just interviewed Eddie
George and several other outside the box candidates, Cliff Kingsbury
has not been requested to interview with the Dallas Cowboys,
the Jacksonville Jaguars, the Las Vegas Raiders, or the New
York Jets. I don't know a guy with some head
(36:58):
coaching experience and just ran circles around everybody's darling offensive
coordinator and on Aaron Glenn, who's everyone's darling defensive coordinator.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
I'll take a stand.
Speaker 7 (37:07):
I think Cliff Kingsbary deserves a few interview requests from
the teams that haven't bothered fifteen interview slips, and yet
Cliff can't get one interesting.
Speaker 6 (37:14):
I don't know.
Speaker 7 (37:15):
That's my Coach of the Week award and a statement
for Cliff Kingsbury to get at some interviews for a
head coach.
Speaker 14 (37:21):
I'm right there with you, Peter, hence why I'm wearing
the commander's jacket today.
Speaker 3 (37:24):
I see you, DMV.
Speaker 14 (37:26):
I can tell you as someone who has lived there,
this means a lot to this fan base. And I
was hoping they're going to be playing next door against
the Rams.
Speaker 2 (37:33):
But with no luck.
Speaker 14 (37:35):
The two touchdown passes against the Eagles on Sunday. Now,
Matthew Stafford he is tied with our very own Kurt
Warner for most touchdown passes in Rams playoff history, but
they lost, so his future in Los Angeles is now
up in the air.
Speaker 3 (37:48):
He addressed this situation after the game.
Speaker 6 (37:50):
Listen, Proud to.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
Be associated with this group.
Speaker 15 (37:54):
Coaching staff, you know, front office, group of players, training staff, equipment, guys, everybody. Man,
it was a hell of an effort all year to
get to this point. You know, anytime you play like
this and get into the playoffs and get a win
and keep it moving, you know, it's anytime you come
up short, it's it's it's even tougher, you know, And
(38:14):
so that's that's difficult.
Speaker 2 (38:16):
But so proud to be associated with this group.
Speaker 15 (38:19):
And you know, as far as my future goes, I mean,
it's thirty minutes after the last game, so I'll take
some time to think about it.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
But uh, I feel like I was playing some pretty
good ball.
Speaker 7 (38:29):
You got football left in you?
Speaker 15 (38:31):
Sure feels like it.
Speaker 14 (38:32):
Yeah, as much as we celebrate the winners, there are
might be some changing of the guard coming up next door.
And look at some of the plays that how does
scratching our heads.
Speaker 2 (38:40):
Will take you back down? That's coming up next.
Speaker 4 (38:44):
Head scratchers, It's time for that. On GMFB. Here's some
weird stuff during football. You say some weird stuff, you
see weird stuff.
Speaker 6 (38:52):
It also happens on the show.
Speaker 3 (38:53):
Come here, Come here, Come here?
Speaker 12 (38:56):
What is this?
Speaker 6 (38:57):
What is happening here?
Speaker 2 (38:57):
What head scratcher?
Speaker 6 (38:59):
Talk to me, Kyle?
Speaker 2 (39:00):
What is that?
Speaker 6 (39:01):
What is going on?
Speaker 2 (39:02):
So I I look like I'm standing at a bus
stop in Buffalo right now?
Speaker 1 (39:07):
Or do I look like one of the stard tackles
on the bills team show me Jordan Phillips before they.
Speaker 2 (39:13):
Look at it with the coat, with the coat under.
Speaker 5 (39:16):
The sauce and Taysom jersey with the big old like
furry little pelt on the hood and everything that was.
Speaker 2 (39:22):
In before the game.
Speaker 5 (39:23):
It looks like like his mom got him dressed to
go to school, like Randy and.
Speaker 2 (39:28):
A Christmas story or something. I can't put my arms down.
Speaker 5 (39:32):
I also like that, like teams come into the stadium,
the visiting team, they try to be all cool and
those shirt lists all that.
Speaker 2 (39:37):
He's like, Hell no, I live here. I know what
the deal is.
Speaker 5 (39:40):
I am putting my coat on and I'm gonna walk
around like I own this place. So I'm gonna do
it now. I'm gonna do it here for the like,
for the rest of the segment, maybe.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
The rest of the show. It feels good. I feel comfortable.
Speaker 5 (39:51):
I got my Jersey here, I got my cords coming
out of the place, and I do really feel like
I'm about four hundred pounds, so he must have thought
be six hundred.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
It's a good look though, right.
Speaker 7 (39:59):
I just love that Matt Collins comes in with a
Hawaii shirt and a in his shirtless with no shoes on.
Speaker 3 (40:06):
But Jordan Philp's like, I'm not proving anything to anybody.
Speaker 6 (40:09):
I'm wearing a big old golden Goose.
Speaker 3 (40:11):
Jacket or whatever it is Canada Goose.
Speaker 7 (40:14):
This is my head scratcher because we have this guy
Jared Verse talks.
Speaker 6 (40:18):
All that smack and then doesn't laugh, and then.
Speaker 7 (40:21):
Here Jayden Carter's like, when you put your playoff bonus
on it, I don't know. I love the fact that
Verse talk smack and then walked around. Sometimes you need
a villain, Jared Versus like, I'll do that. It was
all in good good faith. These guys are young stars.
Carter and Verse both first round picks in the past
two years, having a couple of words, it's.
Speaker 2 (40:39):
All in good sport.
Speaker 7 (40:40):
But to tell the Philly fans you hate them and
then to go do the hul Cogan, can I hear you?
And then to go out and have two sacks and
be awesome. I'm here for the Jared verse.
Speaker 4 (40:48):
Also, we've had a full season of Tom Brady in
the booth on Fox, and I guess you could say
that the color commentator is slowly getting more comfortable with
his takes. When he had the audacity to say this
to Dan Quinn at the end of the Commander's win
on the Road, not.
Speaker 10 (41:03):
Sure Coach Quinn likes owners coming down on the field
before the game's over.
Speaker 2 (41:07):
She's my bad, damns. He didn't get her cards like
she's Tom.
Speaker 6 (41:13):
Did you have to do that to see you?
Speaker 4 (41:16):
Tom Brady's gonna do that game this weekend. Now are
what are they gonna shake hands with that? What is
that production meeting going to be?
Speaker 13 (41:21):
Like?
Speaker 6 (41:22):
My heads backstory?
Speaker 7 (41:23):
The backstory, Jamie, of course, is that Arthur Blank was
on the sidelines.
Speaker 10 (41:26):
They're in twenty eight to three and is walking up
and down and everyone.
Speaker 2 (41:29):
And that's where Brady's going there. That's that's all right, Yes,
I see that.
Speaker 13 (41:34):
You know.
Speaker 10 (41:34):
My head scrutcher, My head scratcher has to be Jane Daniels,
jayde and Daniels. You remember look at this second half.
This is his face second half. They're up by ten
points going to the second and he's just like yep, cool,
like get excited. I'm like, yes, come on, walked into
the Lions Den and you've literally done what a lot
of people didn't think you could do. And then here
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he is in the fourth quarter. They're up by seventeen
points with four four minutes left in the game, y'all
gonna win this, and he's sitting there like, Nope, it
ain't over yet. I mean, just that right there was
scary to watch James Daniels like that and then went
to the Lions Den.
Speaker 2 (42:11):
Come on, you should see under this disgusting
Speaker 8 (42:19):
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Does hearing about a true crime case always leave you scouring the internet for the truth behind the story? Dive into your next mystery with Crime Junkie. Every Monday, join your host Ashley Flowers as she unravels all the details of infamous and underreported true crime cases with her best friend Brit Prawat. From cold cases to missing persons and heroes in our community who seek justice, Crime Junkie is your destination for theories and stories you won’t hear anywhere else. Whether you're a seasoned true crime enthusiast or new to the genre, you'll find yourself on the edge of your seat awaiting a new episode every Monday. If you can never get enough true crime... Congratulations, you’ve found your people. Follow to join a community of Crime Junkies! Crime Junkie is presented by audiochuck Media Company.