August 4, 2025 • 41 mins
Hour Two of the Good Morning Football Podcast begins with the Steelers success. Hosts Jamie Erdahl, Kyle Brandt, Manti Te'l and Will Blackmon debate which Pittsburgh players outside of Aaron Rodgers need to step up. How do the Ravens stack up against the rest of the AFC Big 3? Tom Pelissero and Cam Wolfe give us updates from Falcons camp and around the league. Plus, Kyle sees training camp tweets and looks back at older ill-timed tweets.
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Good Morning Football is the production of the NFL in
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Speaker 2 (00:10):
It's Good Morning Football on a Monday. We're live in
LA and New York as always, August Course, Jamie Eerdl Mantiteo,
Kyle Brant, Will black Men at the breakfast table this morning.
We already got a bunch of the contract conversations out
of our system.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Cowboys commanders, we got you. Kyle.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
There's a segment coming up this hour as it pertains
to training camp tweets. Is that something that makes you
hunk out or is this a joyful review?
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Yeah, there's something that the kids call shoudenfreude about training
camp quarterbacks, and shouting freuda means enjoying someone else's misery.
There is one quarterback that gets more than any other, and.
Speaker 4 (00:47):
I'm not here for it.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
But if you didn't watch SummerSlam over the weekend, a
former Good Morning Football host absolutely stole the show. You
should have seen Schrager up on the top rope, jumping
off in power bombing brock Less.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
It was amazing. Good Morning Football starts now. Great job, Peter,
Good football.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Yeah, that's right, it's Good Morning Football. Welcome inside, everybody,
Kyle Brant Will Black comman'c I teo Jamie Erdaal.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Kyle in the We're Going to Get to Football.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
But like it's been a big summer for the movies.
I feel like we haven't reviewed properly with you what
you have seen. I know there was one you were
going to see with your son when he got back
from camp, and now we have the Naked Gun thing
which is taking off. What's the latest on the Brant
cinema experience.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
I saw Superman in the theater a couple of weeks ago,
and I don't know if you guys have seen it.
The Superman was great, The Lowest Lane was great, That
Lex Luthor was great. The funny thing is that Mike
Francessa had a viral rant about the Superman movie how
we hated it because Superman just gets beat up the
whole time. I do agree with the second part. From
the opening frames of the movie, over the next two
and a half hours, Superman just gets slapped around and
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beat up into a pulp and it's like, That's not
what I'm looking for for my entertainment dollar. It's like,
if you want to go see Joe Burrow and you
just hand it off forty times a game. Let's Superman
out a little bit. I haven't seen Naked Gun yet,
but based on the reviews, I'll get there. It's going
to be incredible. I can't wait. And no thank you
on the nightcap. I don't wear.
Speaker 4 (02:18):
Them an insideline. Guys, don't worry about it. Just trust me.
I know. I'm just letting it.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
I'm just letting this book I was trying to make it.
I was trying to make a parallel between a quarterback
getting slapped around. People don't see that, but I didn't
want to do that to anybody. So instead, let's just
head to Latroe, Pennsylvania.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Shall we wear.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Steelers fans hope that does not happen to their quarterback
as we take a look at a beautiful August fourth
slow mo of Aaron Rodgers throwing.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
To DK Metcalf, because.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
It's not training camp unless we see a slow motion,
perfectly spiral ball from quarterback to wide receiver to elicit
such hope and optimism for an offense that you just
hope that this kind of thing happens in week eighteen
and not just the first week of training camp. Yesterday
on Insight Training Camp, Ian Rappaport and sees the senior
actually askedkm Metcalf if some of those workouts that used
(03:04):
to engage in at UCLA in the spring has helped
their connection.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
Now and camp.
Speaker 5 (03:10):
Getting those live team reps is nothing like you know,
getting you know, the eleven on eleven reps with the
QB Center exchange, making sure the old line has a
block of the assignments going against that reckless defense that
we got on the other side of the ball. Every
every player I get to go against either JPJ, Jalen
or Slay, So I'm always getting better in that aspect. So,
(03:31):
I mean, yeah, the off season workout helps, but it
doesn't doesn't compare to real football once you put the
ball down in training camp and you know, helmets are classing.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
And everything, counlets are clashing.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
We love it. Outside of Aaron Rodgers, Guys, when you
look at the Steelers, and maybe you just readdressed the
initial question, which is I'm calling Aaron Rodgers the most
important person on the Steelers as it pertains to their
success in twenty twenty five. Outside of him, if you
view him as such, who is the next most important person?
Speaker 3 (03:56):
MANSI?
Speaker 6 (03:57):
Well, you could go a lot of people by I
got to say it's got to.
Speaker 4 (03:59):
Be Cam Hayward. And listen to me on this all right,
when you.
Speaker 6 (04:03):
Talk about TJJ Wall, Alex high Smith, Nick Herbig, you
don't have that production if you don't have a guy
like Cam Hayward pushing the middle of that offensive line back.
Not to mention Arthur Smith and this run first, run
heavy approach, that type of approach is really great. However,
that type of offense doesn't have the scoring, the scoring
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power to get a lead if they to catch a lead,
if they fall behind. So in those cases where the
Pittsburgh Steelers are behind in the game, you're gonna need
the defense to step up. And obviously an offense that
is going against this defense is going to try to
run the ball a lot and you can't. You can't
have a good run defense. And I know this as
a linebacker without a dominant interior d lineman, and Cam
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Hayward has been that for the Pittsburgh Steelers.
Speaker 4 (04:49):
So in pertaining what pertains.
Speaker 6 (04:52):
To the Steelers offense and the Steelers success so far,
I got to say that Cam Hayward has to be
that guy beside Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 4 (04:59):
If they want to have.
Speaker 6 (05:00):
A successful twenty twenty five campaign, they have to stop
their run. They have to be able to limit the
offensive opportunities for their opponent. And it's going to start
up the middle with Cam Hanbyworth, Cam Hayward Will Yeah.
Speaker 7 (05:11):
I'm going to go to the running back room. I'm
gonna say the running backs for the Steelers, especially now
with Aaron Rodgers. Obviously he's forty years old, he's not
you really want to put the whole bulk on him,
like I guess Tom Brady's last year where he led
the league in passing. But the reason why I want
to mention the running backs because you're in a defense
your in division where it's like really dominant with defense, right,
and how are you able to nullify these pass rushes? Well,
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get the running backs involved, right? How are they in
pass protection? How are they getting out? He's going to
see a lot of too high shell because they want
to sit and be able to play defense overall. So
how do you attack that? Use the running backs? In
three of Aaron Rodgers' MVP seasons, the running backs ranked
in the top eleven and receiving and rushing. You go
to Tom Brady's year his final year with the Bucks.
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I mean they were top five in totallyalls rushing as
the running backs, and they were in the top ten
in terms of receiving same thing. Peyton Manning when he
won MVP at age thirty seven, his running backs, they
were ranked in the top ten in receiving a rush.
And so you know what, Jayleen Warren, Caleb Johnson and
Kenneth Gainwell and Chase Trummers there as well. I think
just overall, as a runner back committee, if they can
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pretty much do their part, is gonna really alleviate a lot.
Because if you've got the play action Aaron Rodgers is
gonna be extremely dangerous. So if the runner back room
could do their job, I think to meet outside of
everyone else, Like obviously the obvious answers are like you
mentioned TJ and Aaron, But I think the running back
room is great.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
I think the obvious answer is the guy holding the reins.
I think it's Arthur Smith, the offensive coordinator. This is
an interesting thing here. He has a guy who is
forty three, his quarterback is forty one. They're from the
same era, the same age, Like, what is that marriage?
Speaker 4 (06:45):
Like? Because I pointed this out last week.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
Aaron Rodgers has never done this before, meaning he has
never gone to a new team and gone with an
offensive coordinator that he has no history with. When he
went to the Jets, it was this guy, Nate Hackett,
who had a lot of history with He was curated
specifically for Rogers.
Speaker 4 (07:01):
This is just Arthur Smith was.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
The guy the Steelers chose well before Rogers was part
of the team, and then Rogers becomes part of the team,
and they just have to make it work. It's not picked,
it's not selected, it's not filtered for Rogers nor Rogers
With Arthur Smith, I don't think they really knew each
other very well. So I don't know how it's gonna work,
because if it's not working. Rogers is different than a
lot of quarterbacks in the sense that there's this whole
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thing about him changing plays and line of scrimmage him audibly,
and that came up with his relationship with Robert Sala
and the Jets. He is not just your typical I'm
out of college and I'm twenty four and I'll do
whatever you say. In a lot of ways, he is
the coach. So I don't know how that marriage is
gonna work. I don't know what happens if it's not working.
It's just that's a fascinating one. Tomlin and Rogers fine,
But Arthur Smith with the headset calling plays for a
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guy in his twenty first season who knows everything about
the game, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
Sometimes the plays get called back to you. We'll see. Yeah.
Speaker 7 (07:53):
No. I like that answer because historically they just have
not been doing well having a coordinator, I mean not
since Todd Haley. So, Kyle, I love that answer. I
think a lot of pressures on him to get it
right because so far Mike tom has not been doing
a great job finding coordinators for this offense.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
All right, Well, so.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Your answer for the Steelers was a running back room
and quarterbacks love to have it with a star wide receiver.
Of course, the bill are dealing with an issue in
their running back room right now, which is the fact
that James Cook has been at training camp, but yesterday
he decided not to dress for practice. Cook is seeking
a contract extension and he was present during mandatory mini camp.
He then reported to a training camp and he had
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participated thus far, but then he cut it short and
when he was asked about this, James Cook at practice.
He just kept saying, business, business, Why aren't you practicing
business now?
Speaker 3 (08:40):
This morning? Brandon Bean, their GM has been on.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
WGR five to fifty already, and he said the Bills
were not aware that James Cook was going to decide
to withhold himself from practice as of yesterday, and he's
not sure if he's going to participate today. So this
is an active situation that is unfolding for the Bills. Manti,
what do we make of this James Cook business?
Speaker 6 (08:57):
Well, let's talk business, okay, So first and foremost, James
Cook is a very explosive player.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
He's been a really good, reliable player for Theuffalo Bills.
Speaker 6 (09:05):
However, when it comes to business, let's talk about business
from the Bills standpoint. James Cook last year only plaid
forty six percent of the snaps for them on third down.
James Cook was only targeted thirteen percent of the time.
You know who was targeted more than him, Ty Johnson,
He's seventy one percent. That doesn't look good for business
if you're James Cook. Now, last year, on Week six,
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he missed the game against the Jets, and that running
back room ran for one hundred and thirty one yards,
which was the fourth most in.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
The twenty twenty four season for them.
Speaker 6 (09:36):
Their rookie Ray Davis led that running back room with
ninety seven rushing yards and fifty five reception yards. So
when it comes to business, the hardest thing if you
are a player is if you give a franchise the
thought that you could you can be replaced. And last
year when they had that whole running back running back
room play, there wasn't a real big drop off. Now
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for me to say that, I'm not saying that James
Cook isn't a good player. What I am saying is
the the guys in that room can produce for them
and have produced for them. So it doesn't it doesn't
really fit for James Cook when it comes to business
that he has that type of leverage with the front
office for the Buffalo Bills.
Speaker 7 (10:18):
That's what it comes down to. It comes down to leverage.
And you know, you're looking around the league of the
guys who have been paid top dollar and so far
the running back stigma has been moving in the right direction.
Obviously thankful to Saquon and dere Henry, but they're doing
like astronomical things in the running back room. So yeah,
it's very tough because guys don't want to pay runner backs.
(10:38):
You look at we just talked about the Steelers, how
they have a whole running back room where they can
just use multiple backs. So unless you're that constant everyday
cow bell and producing, and like you mentioned, is he
on the field, is he the one getting the football time?
Especially in that offense. The offense is Josh Allen's. He
pretty much does everything for that offense. So it's tough.
And I get it. I mean he does deserve, you know,
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money for sure, but I would just be very very
careful because how much leverage do you really have. You
look at Terry McLaurin tons of leverage, You look at
Michael Palms Parsons, tons of leverage. Because of who they are,
what they have done in this case is very, very tough.
Speaker 4 (11:12):
It's a heart versus head thing, you know.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
If you're a fan, your heart says, oh, yeah, he's great, Jimbo,
and he scored a bunch of touchdowns last year, and
he had an incredible touchdown in the title game against
the Chiefs. He's amazing. Your head says, it's a little
more complicated than that. I understand where he's coming from,
James Flick. This is the one shot he will get
at this. This is the one time when he is
at this point in his career, this age, coming off
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that season scoring that many touchdowns, where he feels like
it's time for ideal that he has to go in
on this. But there's also a test of can you
close your eyes right now and picture the Buffalo Bills
Josh Allen offense without James Cook And sadly for me,
I think the answer is yes. And are they still
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winning games? And I think the answer is yes. He
is a luxury. He's a very talented player that has
again his homegrown But as we've said many times, he's
in the wrong era. This was too and five. He
would have had a huge deal already. It would have
been no big deal. But I think big baller being
is looking at some of the stuff you guys mentioned,
the percentage of the time he's on the field, the
time when he was off the field, How did we
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run the ball and we have this player of mass
destruction at quarterback, right or wrong? I don't think it's
proudent for us to spend huge dollars on this running
back and.
Speaker 4 (12:25):
So Hart versus Head.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
I like James Cook as a player and a person,
but I definitely understand the other side of this.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
All right, the Finyl down for three and out on GMF.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
It's one of these things where sometimes you got to
know what you're good at and what you're not good at.
When I have to read something that says Summer Slam
twenty twenty five and it went down in MetLife Stadium,
I know inherently that I am not going to explain
the following video as well as it could be done.
So instead, I'm gonna ask Kyle to walk us through
a huge moment from Saturday show, because guys, I just
wouldn't do Ausice Kyle take it away.
Speaker 4 (12:55):
All right, let's get into it.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
Summer Slam over the weekend multiple night event now.
Speaker 4 (12:59):
And here we go.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
So WWE has their deal, Seth Rollins walks out with
Paul Hands and CM punk is in the ring and
Seth Rollins has the money in the bank's briefcase.
Speaker 4 (13:07):
But wait, he's injured or is he?
Speaker 1 (13:10):
He drops the crutches, drops the limp, drops the knee brace,
drops the jacket, and.
Speaker 4 (13:17):
Then drops all pretense and.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Struts into the ring in which he uses his right
to use the money in the bank briefcase and he
goes against his old rival Cmpunk and ends up winning
the backstory.
Speaker 4 (13:30):
Guys, they call it the ruse of the century.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Seth has had everyone convinced, depending on what you believe,
up to and including his boss, that he has a
serious knee injury and he could not wrestle.
Speaker 4 (13:41):
This is in the ring, this is out of the ring.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
It's an amazing, amazing piece of showmanship, and it ends
up with Seth Rollins, our dear friend, going and getting
back another belt. We all have our reactions to it.
We thought we've seen everything from pro wrestling. I don't
think we've ever seen this.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
So wait, he took this thing all the way you're
saying outside the building on a social media.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
Like we were concerned?
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Were you concerned about Seth Rolins lower body injury that
he just walks in there?
Speaker 3 (14:05):
Oh? Are you okay with this? Ethically?
Speaker 4 (14:08):
In the wrestling world, it's an incredible thing.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
Not only am I okay within the wrestling world. I
have some inside information here from Good Morning Football, and
everybody listen, I'm going to tell a story. Our GMFB
producer here his name's Chris McClain. He knows Seth because
SES's been on the show several times. A couple of
weeks ago, Chris ran into Seth Rollins at the gym
where he goes to exercise. He saw him there. Seth
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has the knee brace on. He is fully talking about
and owning the injury. He's dragging his leg around, He's limping.
He's limping, and he tells Chris, Yeah, I'm just injured,
you know SummerSlam.
Speaker 4 (14:44):
Chris the intrepid producer he is.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
He says, well, if you're going to be off the
roster for a while for wrestling, why don't you come
in and host with us in Good Morning Football. He
was trying to get him in here because he wouldn't
be wrestling. He completely sold it. He's out and about
in the public gym in character, selling the ruse not
only to the public but to people he knows, like Chris,
only for him to walk out in front of the
Summersland audience and finally drop the cutches and go in
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and win. It is a full, full backstory of incredible
ingenuity and commitment to the bit, up to including lying
to our own staffers. Here on Good Morning Football just
to sell it for this moment, and I could not
respect it more.
Speaker 4 (15:24):
Seth KB, did they say what Jim? First of all,
Chris shout.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
Out, yeah, wait to get in your party about Jim.
Speaker 6 (15:30):
I mean, I can only imagine that he goes to
an expensive gym.
Speaker 4 (15:34):
Out over here in La County. Did he say what,
Jim KB?
Speaker 1 (15:38):
Yeah, I think he works out at a place called Curves.
It's a high end spot for all the wrestlers and
the producers.
Speaker 4 (15:44):
I don't know much about it, but that would be
my guest. Maybe Planet Fitness, but I don't know. Shout
out to McClay well.
Speaker 6 (15:51):
I had to do some research on this one, guys.
I didn't know what was happening, but I watched the
whole clip. I found out what the money in the
bank thing was. What a brilliant, brilliant demonstration of tactics
by set So shout out to Seth front of the show.
I thought that it was perfectly executed.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
All I know is that just me and Seth rollins,
and I'm looking right at you when I say this
is that we are we have the we have the
privilege now and the right to roll your butt in
here to host GMF. You with us, even when you
are injured or not, because no one's ever gonna be
able to tell whether or not you are actually injured.
It's the ultimate injured. It's the ultimate boy who cried Wolf.
So at this point, a crutch or not, rollins, you're
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getting in here. You're gonna come on GMFB. And that's
just the demand that we are gonna make. If you
are gonna lie to the producer's faces the way that
you did, My friends, this is fun.
Speaker 7 (16:39):
This is this is all reminds me of ten years
ago Kyle the Heights of the Century. Similar to that.
Sure this if I wanted to put it in football terms,
this is cold Saints in the Super Bowl, where you know,
the Saints line up and all of a sudden, bombs
I cook the ambush Like that's Zach what I see
it like, And it's it's funny. I appreciate that. That's
That's the one thing I do appreciate about wrestling, man,
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is like like take it full all the way, all
the way through with the characters. So I love it. Man,
this is this is what it's all about.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
See, I think it's like we're going to get let's
just say Bill's Eagles in the Super Bowl, and for
the entire two weeks leading up to the Super Bowl,
Josh Allen is injured and he's in embrace and he's
not practicing, and the Bills starters.
Speaker 4 (17:20):
Come out to warm up, and then just after the national.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
Anthem, Josh Allen comes out and drops the crutches and
the brace and runs out and starts punching the Eagles
Like that's that's how ridiculous this is. And Triple h
was even like the head of ww He's like, I'm
not sure if I like the.
Speaker 4 (17:34):
Bogus medical reports. Like he's playing right into it too.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
Really, just when you think we've been watching wrestling now
forty to fifty years on the mainstream, it's still coming
up with new stuff.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
I was just about to say that with Triple checknowledge
is just like then you're gonna have media members, We're
going to be annoyed about the conspiracy that the injury
reports were falsify. It's like, it's take things so seriously,
well done, and we will see Steth rollin soon enough
here on GMFB front of our show Congratulations.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
A little later on on our.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
Show, We're going to deep dive into training camp analysis.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
That needs a second, a third, and a fourth.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Look, if you are putting things Zeatman's out their thoughts,
complaints about a quarterback, specifically, Kyle will unearth it and
he will tell you why you're wrong and why you
should not have those thoughts at this time of year.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
Kyle, what else?
Speaker 1 (18:21):
I got a text from someone in media yesterday saying
is it panic time for Caleb Williams And I want
to punch them through my phone. Lamar Jackson and Derek
Henry give opponents nightmares.
Speaker 4 (18:30):
We know that.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
Is this the season Baltimore's dreams finally come true and
they get to that first Lamar Jackson's Super Bowl.
Speaker 4 (18:40):
We're talking Ravens next.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
We'll try to make it a different conversation than it
is every time with the Ravens.
Speaker 8 (18:45):
I promise, good morn football.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Oh and one of the kings in the AFC would
be that of King Derrick Henry. Just an absolutely prolific
year with the Ravens last season and now he is
reconnecting once again with Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
But no matter what.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
Jersey Dereck Henry is wearing, it is one of the
universal truths in football that it is impossible to tackle
that man.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
So when you.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
Consider watching training camp footage of Lamar connecting with Derrick
Henry taking him down, trying to from the back, usually
it takes multiple players. So his teammates now, who are
attempting to do this and practice, we're asked about tackling
Derrick Henry and what that experience is, Like, here's a
flowers in Kyle.
Speaker 8 (19:36):
Hamilton, hit him, just hit him for you.
Speaker 9 (19:42):
Most people now, nah, But I think that's the mentality
you gotta take.
Speaker 4 (19:46):
I mean, obviously it's not an easy task, but you know,
you gotta.
Speaker 9 (19:49):
You're in the league too for that for a reason,
So I think you gotta have confidence when you're going there.
But you know, like I said, it's no that's a
tall task and he's made a living running people over
and stiff arm with people. So I mean, you kind
of just gotta just gotta find it somewhere and hit him.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
So simple.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
I mean, just say, you guys are on his team though,
that's the problem. Kyle Hamilton. Keyle Hamilton's awesome, and he's
part of an amazing Ravens defense that is talented once again,
and they are trying to stack up and compete with
the big three offenses in the AFC this year to
reach the pinnacle, the Bengals, the Chiefs, and the Bills.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
How do we think this is going to go?
Speaker 2 (20:24):
Man Tai for this group of Ravens defenders who are
good every year, but it's again, it's all task in
the AFC.
Speaker 6 (20:31):
I think it's going to go well, you know, and
I think defensively, if you look at the landscape of
last year for them, the first half of the season,
they really struggled under Zach Orr, Zach Orr's first year
defensive coordinator, so you're expecting some growth pain there. But
then the second half of the season comes comes along
and they start to dominate. Matter of fact, they start
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to become one of the best, if not the best
defense in the NFL, ranking first and a whole bunch
of categories. I don't know if we have that graphic,
but they're just first in a whole bunch of categories.
And you add the guys like Jae or Alexander and
Kai Starks to it. Like guys, when I say dominant's
like it's first, first, first, first, first, right.
Speaker 4 (21:09):
Down the line, like they figured it out.
Speaker 6 (21:11):
Now, Kyle Hamilton had a lot to do with that,
moving him around.
Speaker 4 (21:14):
But when you.
Speaker 6 (21:15):
Apply Malachi Starks to that equation Jai or Alexander too,
Marlin Humphrey, Nate Wiggins, and Kyle Hamilton, you can only
imagine that that defense starts to look like the traditional
Baltimore Baltimore Ravens defense of Oh, now, how do they
stack up against those guys?
Speaker 4 (21:31):
I think they stacked up pretty well.
Speaker 6 (21:33):
I think it's gonna be a really good, really exciting
season for them defensively and offensively.
Speaker 4 (21:38):
So Will I'm.
Speaker 6 (21:41):
Really excited to see this Ravens defense take on that
that form that they.
Speaker 4 (21:44):
Had late in the season last year.
Speaker 7 (21:46):
Yeah, it's gonna be unique. It's gonna be musty TV
versus all these teams. You know, we'll start with the
with the Bengals. You know you this is gonna be
the purest seven on seven pitching cats test. Right, you
have Jamar Chase Higgins, MIKEA Saiki, they just signed Noah Fense,
another tight end, and this is gonna be the purest test, Like,
can your DB's offside matchup with us? And if you
can and not get to Joe Burrow, it's gonna be
a problem. And then you look at the Buffalo Bills
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like you, Josh Allen, you really have to try to
take away movement with him right, set the edges and
really try to keep him in the pocket and force
him to throw the ball downfield, which he also does
very well, but you want to limit his quarterback runs
because that's where he can hurt you. And then you
go to the Kansas City Chiefs, like You're gonna get
a lot of more complex situations like rpo zone schemes,
and so now you're really battling, you know, or versus
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Andy Reid a situation. Of course, you got you know,
Mahomes as the quarterback. But they're gonna have a lot
of unique situations, a lot of unique matchups when it
comes to these games. But it's gonna be fun. And
if anyone is built for defensively reasons why you mentioned
Mantai is going to be the Baltimore Ravens.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
It is going to be fun and it is going
to be exciting, and it always is with the Ravens.
I find the Ravens very difficult to talk about because
it all just comes to the same answer every time,
especially this year.
Speaker 4 (22:56):
You know the Ravens didn't.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
Make dramatic moves in the off season because they didn't
need to, and they shouldn't make dramatic moves. They have
the coach, the players, they have the roster, they have
the quarterback. It's just can they make enough plays in
that game in the playoffs. That's all it is. It's
all it was last year. It's all it's gonna be
next year. I see Bills and Bengals and Chiefs, and
it's we know these guys are gonna fight. At the
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end of the movie, it's like you want to just
fast forward to the end. You understand.
Speaker 4 (23:21):
It's like Frank Dukes is gonna fight Shong Lee and
the championship.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
Brown of the Turn of the Kumite. Let's just get there.
We know that the Ravens are gonna be very good
this year. Their defense is gonna be good. Their offense
is gonna be good, just like last year, just like
next year. Now some teams they're more more interesting and
more mysterious. I don't know if the Steelers are gonna
be good this year. I'm not really sure. I don't
know if the Bears are gonna be good this year.
I know The Ravens are gonna be good. You know
they're gonna be good. Probably great. It's just one of
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these teams where I don't really need to know anything else.
I know it's what we do, and we get into
the minutia of their defense and their schemes, and it's wonderful.
Speaker 4 (23:53):
And that's football.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
The net sum of all of it is, will you
make enough plays to beat the Bills, Chiefs, Bengals. Usually
they don't, so this year will it be different?
Speaker 4 (24:03):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
But it's like they are one of four see you
in January teams.
Speaker 4 (24:07):
I can't wait for it.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
But in the meantime it's difficult to talk about just
because that's the only answer anyone's interested.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
I didn't know this about the Ravens, but into terms
of seeing you in January, Like, how about can I
interest you in a week seventeen Ravens at Packers game?
Because that's going down at Lambeau in late December.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
That's incredible in.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
The in the scheduling, God's gift in the universe. A
week seventeen Ravens Packers.
Speaker 7 (24:29):
Who who's going to play in that game? Though I
don't care, I want to see it.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
It might matter, It might matter exactly.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
I love this part of GMFP because we've all been
talking in our cushy little climate control studio about things
that are going around the NFL. Well, Tom Pelisera and
Cam Wolf are actually out there there at Falcons training camp.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
We have them now.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
Great to see you guys this morning, and we got
to cover a lot of topics with you too. Cam Wolf,
I'm gonna start with you. Michael Pennick Junior is entering
year two in the NFL. What's going on with his coaches,
the teammates, the people that are around him every day
and they're taking in how this guy is progressing.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
What's going on with him?
Speaker 4 (25:08):
Well, good morning, Jamie.
Speaker 10 (25:09):
We actually just talked to Rahee Morris's head coach about
thirty minutes ago, and he told us that this guy
is a calm, more prepared version of the guy that
we saw last year. Remember he didn't get the starting
reps until December when he got the job. Now he
gets a full offseason as the guy, and they're doing
everything to get him ready for the moment. They've had
Michael Vick and Matt Ryan connect with him to be
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able to teach him a little bit about being a
veteran starting quarterback here in Atlanta.
Speaker 4 (25:35):
And also they talked about.
Speaker 10 (25:37):
Michael Pennocks's relationship with his teammates building that confidence that
are so that this offense is ready to flow Week one.
Speaker 4 (25:44):
How confidence is Michael Pennicks.
Speaker 10 (25:45):
He's saying that they have goals of being the best
offense in football. He said, we have the playmakers for it,
he said, Drake London, he won't be underrated or overlooked
after this year, he said, Kyle Pitts, you see us
throw catching passes in training camp, You're going to see
a lot of that throughout the season. Look, this is
a Falcons team that knows they have to win. They
haven't won a playoff game or made the playoffs since
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twenty seventeen. But they know that Michael Pinnix is their
guy and they can't wait to unleash him to the
rest of the league and potentially try to win this
NFC South Jamie also.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
Guys, what happened yesterday Tom James Cook. We were talking
about him earlier.
Speaker 4 (26:20):
It's a tough one, great player, great stats, not on
the field. A lot take us through all of that.
Speaker 11 (26:25):
With the Bills They're been ongoing conversations Kyle negotiations dating
back months. The Bills tried to get a lot of
their core players locked up back in the spring. They
did it with the likes of Christian Benford on a
new deal, Greg Russou as well. James Cook was the
priority at that time. The sides were not able to
get on the same page. Those negotiations have been continuing,
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so James Cook yesterday did not participate in practice. He
was asked repeatedly by the media why he didn practice,
Will he practice tomorrow? When will he practice again? Cook
would only respond business now. My understanding has been the
sides have not been that far apart on a James
Cook contract extension for all the way back to the spring. However,
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there is no close. There is only done, and there
is not a done deal at this time with James
Cook GM. Brandon Bean was on the radio locally in
Buffalo earlier today said it's disappointing for him against the
first time in his nine years as GM that a
player is not practiced because of a contract situation. Buffalo
has not had the proverbial hold ins, which has reminded
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of everybody is not a real thing. Under the collective
bargaining agreement, you cannot hold in. If you don't practice
and you're there, the team can find you for not practicing.
Speaker 4 (27:40):
We shall see.
Speaker 11 (27:41):
This is not anybody hitting the eject button. This is
not Micah Parsons in Dallas. As the conversations have been continuing, obviously,
James Cook, in consultation with his people, made the decision
to not be on the practice field yesterday. We shall
see if he's out there today or at any time
in the coming days as those conversations potentially.
Speaker 6 (28:02):
Come to a head in Buffalo Guests, Yeah, Tom, we
shall see that with James Cook, with somebody we know.
We will see As Bajeon Robinson, I know a lot
of people are excited about fantasy football projections with them.
Saquon Barkley talked about his cutting ability. How has Bajeon
looked in trend camp so far?
Speaker 11 (28:19):
Nailing that pronunciation that he clarified during Back Together Weekend.
Bijon Robinson coming off of a season where.
Speaker 4 (28:25):
It was a huge breakthrough for him.
Speaker 11 (28:27):
In a year two, almost nineteen hundred yards from scrimmage,
he had fifteen touchdowns. If he's able to replicate that
in twenty twenty five. For you get your fantasy team
here for a second man tie, this is gonna be
a very lucrative coming off season for Bijeon Robinson. You
look across the league at the running back market, it's
been fickle four years. There's three guys Christian McCaffrey, Saquon
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Barkley and Derek Henry who were making fifteen million dollars
plus per year. If Bijon, who is still only twenty
three years old, puts up another season like he did
in twenty twenty four, he quite possibly is going to
be in that conversation as well. It's a big part
of the offense. Can you talked about it with Michael
Pennix Junior as they're trying to bring him.
Speaker 7 (29:04):
A law here.
Speaker 11 (29:04):
If you're able to have a strong running game, that's
a pretty good way to take the pressure off your
young quarterback. I wouldn't anticipate that we see much, if any,
of Bishon Robinson in the preseason. If you're going to
be a load carrying back like he can be, save
it for the regular season. We're going to look out
here at him today. And also, I want to be clear,
guys that file footage we were showing to the quarterback asually.
Speaker 8 (29:25):
That was from another day.
Speaker 11 (29:27):
Right now, we've got a little sideways rain going out here.
They are outside though, on the practice field, on the grass,
and we'll look forward to this over the next game.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
Everyone battling elements tom players hate when they're a market
for their contract is called fickle. So I'm glad that
we've moved beyond that with running backs. And I don't
want to overlook the flex that you two had cam
when you started this report saying that, oh, you're just
catching up with the head coach thirty minutes ago. What
else was that conversation, Like, well done you guys, You're
up and at it early today.
Speaker 10 (29:54):
Yeah, Jamie, great news from that press conference. Michael Pennocks
Kirk Cousins will not play in the preseason game on Friday.
Raheem Morris told us you'll see a lot of Easton
stick out there. Gonna wait till later in the preseason
to see those quarterbacks play. But the most important thing
that he told us was his routine in the morning.
He said he gets up Rahee Morris four am every morning,
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gets a cold plunge action three minutes in the cold
plunge to it tub works out even before he gets
to the facility. I have done thirteen seconds of cold
plunge before, so I can't imagine three minutes daily. But
he said he's already ready to go. But it's great
for his bones, great for his recovery. So not only
the players get recovery action, you got the Falcons head
coach Raheem Morris getting cold plunge four am workouts for
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training idea.
Speaker 4 (30:40):
That's all me.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
Still not early enough for to join us on GMFF.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
That's all I gotta say about that.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
It's gotta be three am and it's got to be
six minutes in the cold plunge. Tom Pellisero, Cam wol
If you guys are the best, Thank you so much.
Get your umbrellas and get out there and check out
the quarterbacks.
Speaker 12 (30:55):
We'll see you guys a little bit, all right, welcome
back now.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
Some people don't like it, but I don't mind too
much the training camp passing stats getting tweeted and shared
on the internet because I think there's a hunger for it.
Speaker 4 (31:22):
I think fans want it.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
There's also a bloodlust that goes on for players failing
in training camp for players looking bad for throwing ugly passes,
for throwing pick sixes, player looks sharp, boring. Let me
see the terrible, unsightly interception footage with which I can
make fun of that player and tweet jokes. Over the weekend,
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the Bears had their Family Night scrimmage at Soldier Field.
On Soldier Field, Caleb Williams through a really ugly interception.
Here's the fan captured video with the phone from the
stands that makes the internet and everyone lost their minds.
Here's just one of the tweets that came up about
Caleb throwing an interception the first week in August. Kayla
Williams already in mid season fourm fire. Far be it
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for me to criticize the people at Hater Reports. It's
not exactly the Associated Press, but I do think that
accounts like this, God Bless him, drive conversations, create narratives,
establish reputations for players, and I would just respond to
this type of joke, which was everywhere. Caleb Williams already
midseason form. Are you talking about like last year in
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the mid season when he went nine straight games without
throwing an interception? Nine straight games, every single one of
them a loss for the Bears because his coordinator got fired.
His coach got fired mid season form Bears men should hope.
So he didn't throw a single interception as a rookie
through the mid season with no offensive line, trying to
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gel as a rookie with everyone around him getting fired.
His only mid season play was incredible under horrific dress.
Speaker 4 (32:52):
I got a text from.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
Somebody yesterday in the media, someone that you know, that
just said Caleb Williams panic time, and I wanted to
punch this person through the phone. You would think right now,
based on the reaction to Caleb Williams interception on August third,
that it is actually October fourteenth, the Bears are one
and four and he's suffering badly. There is something specific
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about the Bears quarterbacks where it's comfortable for the Internet
for them to be inept, for them to be bad.
They want them as a character to kick around. They
want to mean them for being bad. They've done it
since the Internet was invented, and they don't.
Speaker 4 (33:27):
Want to stop. That's fine, but don't do it.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
Based on an August third interception, when I just told
you you played over two months of football without throwing
one and Caleb Williams far from the first person that
had this happen to.
Speaker 4 (33:40):
Let's look back a little bit. Let's look back to.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
The year twenty nineteen when Lamar Jackson is having his
training camp and maybe things aren't looking that great, and
the tweet comes out this is just one of many
Lamar having issues throwing the football. Several of his passes
woggled through the air, and everyone loses their minds. Always
should have sticked with Flacco. Lamar he can't throw, he
can't pass. Then Lamar takes the field for twenty nineteen
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and the very first game of that season, Lamarthur for
five touchdowns with no picks, five and zero. He went
on to win the league MVP. Look at this, This
was the fish in a barrel game. Week one, he
beats the Bengals. He was the best player in the NFL.
But you go back a month and you think it's
hilarious that we were losing our mind about wobbly passes
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in training camp.
Speaker 4 (34:26):
You want another example.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
How about Rock Party looked at his mister irrelevance. Twenty
twenty three training camp. Ten interceptions in training camp for
Brock Purty so far two interceptions in today's practice. I
don't know if he's up to being the leading man
for Kyle Shanahan. Guess what first five weeks of the
season party nine touchdowns, zero interceptions led the NFL through
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the first couple of months in ratio, went all the
way to the Super Bowl. Yet there's a tweet from
august An I don't know. Two more picks and practice.
Speaker 4 (35:03):
Guys. It's fine to to.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
Statistics, draw the conclusions if you want, but these dramatic
overreactions are so obnoxious, so overdone, so pessimistic, so critical
of players. If anything, overreact to how good someone's touchdown looks.
Speaker 4 (35:18):
Try that maybe they won't be that good during the season.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
But it's fun to celebrate a player trying to find
his footing, like Caleb Williams in the NFL. I really
do think it's a Caleb thing. I think it's a
very specific thing. I don't know what the internet would
do when and if Kleb Beliams becomes a fantastic player
in his second.
Speaker 4 (35:34):
Year, what are the jokes going to be about. You'll
always find something.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
But in meantime, Caleb threw a terrible intersection over this
week Over this weekend, who knows. Maybe he threw it
to try to put on a show for the fans,
maybe he threw it because it's practice and screw it,
or maybe it's August third and he's having a really
difficult time right now.
Speaker 4 (35:51):
Justin Ben Johnson's offense.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
He's got a month, he's got talent, he's got a
supporting cast.
Speaker 4 (35:56):
I know everybody's got jokes.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
It's just way too much, especially when that joke is
midseason form and the only time we've seen him the
mid season, he's been.
Speaker 4 (36:03):
An excellent form. I'm finding a joke place. Thank you, guys.
I love that, KB. That's God's work right there.
Speaker 6 (36:10):
Reminded me of when Jamar Chase was in his rookie
year and then training Camra. They're like, oh, he're dropping passes,
he doesn't know how to catch the ball, and then
fast forward ap offensive Rookie of the Year like.
Speaker 4 (36:20):
That, that's just what happens.
Speaker 6 (36:21):
That's I'm so glad that KB you identified that because
as a player, one of the things I'm passionate about
on this show is giving players a voice and giving
him a narrative and giving some perspective for the fans
at home who we love, but just giving them perspective
as to how these guys think and what they may
be going through.
Speaker 4 (36:36):
So KB, bravo, brother, bravo.
Speaker 7 (36:38):
I'm just in his smiling man because I got Aaron
Rodgers through a pick six. Yeah you know, hey, love
it man.
Speaker 4 (36:44):
Through a pick six.
Speaker 7 (36:45):
Great things on the horizon for the Pittsburgh Steels.
Speaker 4 (36:47):
Let's go.
Speaker 3 (36:48):
It's the contrarian approach to it.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
It's like, see what you read, what you have to
hear about these guys, and then take the opposite stands Kyle,
when you see tweets like this from media members, let's say,
do you ever directly reach out to the person and
you're like, come on, man, like you don't have to
put that out of that guy? Do you take this
upon yourself? Put on the hero, keep if you will
for the player, and.
Speaker 3 (37:07):
You're like, on, behalf of this, dude, stop it with this.
Speaker 4 (37:10):
August third reporting a couple of things.
Speaker 1 (37:12):
I have a bylaw in my career that I don't
do Twitter beef.
Speaker 4 (37:15):
I find it pathetic. I don't like it. I don't
get into any of that stuff.
Speaker 1 (37:19):
Two, I don't reply to these accounts on Twitter because
I have my own television show so I can just
do it on.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
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Speaker 3 (37:43):
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Speaker 2 (37:44):
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Speaker 4 (38:08):
Yeah. I'm definitely into dinosaurs. That's a dinosauric. That pig
is massive.
Speaker 5 (38:19):
I'm a big, strong, fast attack from all sides.
Speaker 8 (38:25):
Night was Garrett lays him.
Speaker 4 (38:26):
Down and gladiator for the other guy over dinosaur thing
he does. I'm sun little creature.
Speaker 3 (38:37):
What did we just watch?
Speaker 7 (38:41):
I'm so confused.
Speaker 2 (38:42):
It's fantastic editing Browns and pastors from Miles Garrett says
during training camp, just keep your opinions that you can
share them with the class when we after we hear
from Miles Garrett. He's he's young, he's healthy, and apparently
he's very open minded about trying out new positions on
the football field.
Speaker 3 (38:56):
He had this exchange with one of his teammates, the
kicker Dustin Hopkins, about changing jobs for a day.
Speaker 4 (39:02):
I want to swist some jobs for today. You know,
maybe one day I come out in your uniform.
Speaker 7 (39:07):
And you start, hey, I'm down.
Speaker 4 (39:09):
I'm just some kicking drills.
Speaker 3 (39:11):
All right, there it is.
Speaker 2 (39:12):
Can you imagine already hard enough to tackle the guy
now he's gonna kick Manti. Do you have another position
that you would have wanted to try for a day when.
Speaker 6 (39:19):
You were playing, I would say punter. I would say punter.
I think shout out to punter's respect to you, But
you guys got the easiest job, Like you're never in
a game winning situation, and if you happen to kick
the ball through the end.
Speaker 4 (39:30):
Zone, like it's like, oh, it's a touchback. So I
would have to say punter, like kicker, kicker. I don't
want to be a kicker because the whole team could
have a horrible game. You miss a game winning field goal,
it's your fault. I don't want that. Give me the punter.
It just cuts up on to this that thing. I
don't care.
Speaker 7 (39:44):
Yeah, I mean, I was fortunate to play multiple positions,
but I would. I would probably be a backup quarterback
to a franchise quarterback because you don't do anything.
Speaker 4 (39:53):
You do.
Speaker 7 (39:53):
You make, you make, make a lot of money, do
a great job, but you're never going to see the field.
You don't do you practice. You're pretty much a quarterback coach.
You're an extension of the quarterback coach, but you don't
do anything. I would love to be a backup right
behind a franchise quarterback Kyle.
Speaker 4 (40:08):
I like to be Scott Hanson. That's easy, man.
Speaker 1 (40:11):
All you gotta do is just tweet out five more sundays.
Speaker 4 (40:14):
Football fans loses their minds.
Speaker 1 (40:17):
He comes out on that first Sunday like like Zerk
season three hundred and people just go nuts. I feel
like there's football fans who are looking forward to Scott
Hanson making his debut this season more than Patrick Mahomes.
It's an unbelievable thing of hero worship that he commands,
I can only just watch it with envy. It's an
amazing power Scott has. And by the way, football fans,
we're down to only.
Speaker 4 (40:36):
Four and a half weeks.
Speaker 13 (40:40):
Man a similar sort of sentiment here as well. I
am bill trade positions with anyone currently on the beach
in some sort of tropical place.
Speaker 3 (40:48):
Uh huh.
Speaker 13 (40:49):
You know's beak a little reprieve before we really hit
the ground, Manning, because it is a gauntlet once we
get to the season.
Speaker 2 (40:54):
I want to trade positions with the person who has
to produce angry runs, because all you have to do
is just watch football and come up with rage runs
and then send them to and then he just makes
the whole thing sing Kyle. I mean, that must be
the easiest job in television.
Speaker 4 (41:09):
Now, well, you know you should ask Jim.
Speaker 1 (41:11):
You should ask Jim at be producer Chris McClain second
mentioned in the show.
Speaker 4 (41:15):
For him.
Speaker 1 (41:15):
He's the guy who ran into Seth Rowins at the
gym a few weeks ago and Seth was dragging his
knee around and just fish hooking McClain and he's actually injured.
It's an amazing story, Seth, we got it. You gotta
come on the show and talk about what happened about
SummerSlam over the weekend, because everybody's losing our mind about it,
and you're one of our dumb friends here in our
little silly show.
Speaker 13 (41:33):
Even his wife Becky Lynch was tweeting like, don't believe
everything you see on the Internet.
Speaker 3 (41:38):
So a lot of more going into that face.
Speaker 7 (41:41):
He Jim was a backup, wasn't Yeah, Joe Montana, Steve
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Speaker 2 (00:10):
It's Good Morning Football on a Monday. We're live in
LA and New York as always, August Course, Jamie Eerdl Mantiteo,
Kyle Brant, Will black Men at the breakfast table this morning.
We already got a bunch of the contract conversations out
of our system.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Cowboys commanders, we got you. Kyle.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
There's a segment coming up this hour as it pertains
to training camp tweets. Is that something that makes you
hunk out or is this a joyful review?
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Yeah, there's something that the kids call shoudenfreude about training
camp quarterbacks, and shouting freuda means enjoying someone else's misery.
There is one quarterback that gets more than any other, and.
Speaker 4 (00:47):
I'm not here for it.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
But if you didn't watch SummerSlam over the weekend, a
former Good Morning Football host absolutely stole the show. You
should have seen Schrager up on the top rope, jumping
off in power bombing brock Less.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
It was amazing. Good Morning Football starts now. Great job, Peter,
Good football.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Yeah, that's right, it's Good Morning Football. Welcome inside, everybody,
Kyle Brant Will Black comman'c I teo Jamie Erdaal.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Kyle in the We're Going to Get to Football.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
But like it's been a big summer for the movies.
I feel like we haven't reviewed properly with you what
you have seen. I know there was one you were
going to see with your son when he got back
from camp, and now we have the Naked Gun thing
which is taking off. What's the latest on the Brant
cinema experience.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
I saw Superman in the theater a couple of weeks ago,
and I don't know if you guys have seen it.
The Superman was great, The Lowest Lane was great, That
Lex Luthor was great. The funny thing is that Mike
Francessa had a viral rant about the Superman movie how
we hated it because Superman just gets beat up the
whole time. I do agree with the second part. From
the opening frames of the movie, over the next two
and a half hours, Superman just gets slapped around and
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beat up into a pulp and it's like, That's not
what I'm looking for for my entertainment dollar. It's like,
if you want to go see Joe Burrow and you
just hand it off forty times a game. Let's Superman
out a little bit. I haven't seen Naked Gun yet,
but based on the reviews, I'll get there. It's going
to be incredible. I can't wait. And no thank you
on the nightcap. I don't wear.
Speaker 4 (02:18):
Them an insideline. Guys, don't worry about it. Just trust me.
I know. I'm just letting it.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
I'm just letting this book I was trying to make it.
I was trying to make a parallel between a quarterback
getting slapped around. People don't see that, but I didn't
want to do that to anybody. So instead, let's just
head to Latroe, Pennsylvania.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Shall we wear.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Steelers fans hope that does not happen to their quarterback
as we take a look at a beautiful August fourth
slow mo of Aaron Rodgers throwing.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
To DK Metcalf, because.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
It's not training camp unless we see a slow motion,
perfectly spiral ball from quarterback to wide receiver to elicit
such hope and optimism for an offense that you just
hope that this kind of thing happens in week eighteen
and not just the first week of training camp. Yesterday
on Insight Training Camp, Ian Rappaport and sees the senior
actually askedkm Metcalf if some of those workouts that used
(03:04):
to engage in at UCLA in the spring has helped
their connection.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
Now and camp.
Speaker 5 (03:10):
Getting those live team reps is nothing like you know,
getting you know, the eleven on eleven reps with the
QB Center exchange, making sure the old line has a
block of the assignments going against that reckless defense that
we got on the other side of the ball. Every
every player I get to go against either JPJ, Jalen
or Slay, So I'm always getting better in that aspect. So,
(03:31):
I mean, yeah, the off season workout helps, but it
doesn't doesn't compare to real football once you put the
ball down in training camp and you know, helmets are classing.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
And everything, counlets are clashing.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
We love it. Outside of Aaron Rodgers, Guys, when you
look at the Steelers, and maybe you just readdressed the
initial question, which is I'm calling Aaron Rodgers the most
important person on the Steelers as it pertains to their
success in twenty twenty five. Outside of him, if you
view him as such, who is the next most important person?
Speaker 3 (03:56):
MANSI?
Speaker 6 (03:57):
Well, you could go a lot of people by I
got to say it's got to.
Speaker 4 (03:59):
Be Cam Hayward. And listen to me on this all right,
when you.
Speaker 6 (04:03):
Talk about TJJ Wall, Alex high Smith, Nick Herbig, you
don't have that production if you don't have a guy
like Cam Hayward pushing the middle of that offensive line back.
Not to mention Arthur Smith and this run first, run
heavy approach, that type of approach is really great. However,
that type of offense doesn't have the scoring, the scoring
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power to get a lead if they to catch a lead,
if they fall behind. So in those cases where the
Pittsburgh Steelers are behind in the game, you're gonna need
the defense to step up. And obviously an offense that
is going against this defense is going to try to
run the ball a lot and you can't. You can't
have a good run defense. And I know this as
a linebacker without a dominant interior d lineman, and Cam
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Hayward has been that for the Pittsburgh Steelers.
Speaker 4 (04:49):
So in pertaining what pertains.
Speaker 6 (04:52):
To the Steelers offense and the Steelers success so far,
I got to say that Cam Hayward has to be
that guy beside Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 4 (04:59):
If they want to have.
Speaker 6 (05:00):
A successful twenty twenty five campaign, they have to stop
their run. They have to be able to limit the
offensive opportunities for their opponent. And it's going to start
up the middle with Cam Hanbyworth, Cam Hayward Will Yeah.
Speaker 7 (05:11):
I'm going to go to the running back room. I'm
gonna say the running backs for the Steelers, especially now
with Aaron Rodgers. Obviously he's forty years old, he's not
you really want to put the whole bulk on him,
like I guess Tom Brady's last year where he led
the league in passing. But the reason why I want
to mention the running backs because you're in a defense
your in division where it's like really dominant with defense, right,
and how are you able to nullify these pass rushes? Well,
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get the running backs involved, right? How are they in
pass protection? How are they getting out? He's going to
see a lot of too high shell because they want
to sit and be able to play defense overall. So
how do you attack that? Use the running backs? In
three of Aaron Rodgers' MVP seasons, the running backs ranked
in the top eleven and receiving and rushing. You go
to Tom Brady's year his final year with the Bucks.
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I mean they were top five in totallyalls rushing as
the running backs, and they were in the top ten
in terms of receiving same thing. Peyton Manning when he
won MVP at age thirty seven, his running backs, they
were ranked in the top ten in receiving a rush.
And so you know what, Jayleen Warren, Caleb Johnson and
Kenneth Gainwell and Chase Trummers there as well. I think
just overall, as a runner back committee, if they can
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pretty much do their part, is gonna really alleviate a lot.
Because if you've got the play action Aaron Rodgers is
gonna be extremely dangerous. So if the runner back room
could do their job, I think to meet outside of
everyone else, Like obviously the obvious answers are like you
mentioned TJ and Aaron, But I think the running back
room is great.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
I think the obvious answer is the guy holding the reins.
I think it's Arthur Smith, the offensive coordinator. This is
an interesting thing here. He has a guy who is
forty three, his quarterback is forty one. They're from the
same era, the same age, Like, what is that marriage?
Speaker 4 (06:45):
Like? Because I pointed this out last week.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
Aaron Rodgers has never done this before, meaning he has
never gone to a new team and gone with an
offensive coordinator that he has no history with. When he
went to the Jets, it was this guy, Nate Hackett,
who had a lot of history with He was curated
specifically for Rogers.
Speaker 4 (07:01):
This is just Arthur Smith was.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
The guy the Steelers chose well before Rogers was part
of the team, and then Rogers becomes part of the team,
and they just have to make it work. It's not picked,
it's not selected, it's not filtered for Rogers nor Rogers
With Arthur Smith, I don't think they really knew each
other very well. So I don't know how it's gonna work,
because if it's not working. Rogers is different than a
lot of quarterbacks in the sense that there's this whole
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thing about him changing plays and line of scrimmage him audibly,
and that came up with his relationship with Robert Sala
and the Jets. He is not just your typical I'm
out of college and I'm twenty four and I'll do
whatever you say. In a lot of ways, he is
the coach. So I don't know how that marriage is
gonna work. I don't know what happens if it's not working.
It's just that's a fascinating one. Tomlin and Rogers fine,
But Arthur Smith with the headset calling plays for a
(07:46):
guy in his twenty first season who knows everything about
the game, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
Sometimes the plays get called back to you. We'll see. Yeah.
Speaker 7 (07:53):
No. I like that answer because historically they just have
not been doing well having a coordinator, I mean not
since Todd Haley. So, Kyle, I love that answer. I
think a lot of pressures on him to get it
right because so far Mike tom has not been doing
a great job finding coordinators for this offense.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
All right, Well, so.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Your answer for the Steelers was a running back room
and quarterbacks love to have it with a star wide receiver.
Of course, the bill are dealing with an issue in
their running back room right now, which is the fact
that James Cook has been at training camp, but yesterday
he decided not to dress for practice. Cook is seeking
a contract extension and he was present during mandatory mini camp.
He then reported to a training camp and he had
(08:29):
participated thus far, but then he cut it short and
when he was asked about this, James Cook at practice.
He just kept saying, business, business, Why aren't you practicing
business now?
Speaker 3 (08:40):
This morning? Brandon Bean, their GM has been on.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
WGR five to fifty already, and he said the Bills
were not aware that James Cook was going to decide
to withhold himself from practice as of yesterday, and he's
not sure if he's going to participate today. So this
is an active situation that is unfolding for the Bills. Manti,
what do we make of this James Cook business?
Speaker 6 (08:57):
Well, let's talk business, okay, So first and foremost, James
Cook is a very explosive player.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
He's been a really good, reliable player for Theuffalo Bills.
Speaker 6 (09:05):
However, when it comes to business, let's talk about business
from the Bills standpoint. James Cook last year only plaid
forty six percent of the snaps for them on third down.
James Cook was only targeted thirteen percent of the time.
You know who was targeted more than him, Ty Johnson,
He's seventy one percent. That doesn't look good for business
if you're James Cook. Now, last year, on Week six,
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he missed the game against the Jets, and that running
back room ran for one hundred and thirty one yards,
which was the fourth most in.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
The twenty twenty four season for them.
Speaker 6 (09:36):
Their rookie Ray Davis led that running back room with
ninety seven rushing yards and fifty five reception yards. So
when it comes to business, the hardest thing if you
are a player is if you give a franchise the
thought that you could you can be replaced. And last
year when they had that whole running back running back
room play, there wasn't a real big drop off. Now
(09:59):
for me to say that, I'm not saying that James
Cook isn't a good player. What I am saying is
the the guys in that room can produce for them
and have produced for them. So it doesn't it doesn't
really fit for James Cook when it comes to business
that he has that type of leverage with the front
office for the Buffalo Bills.
Speaker 7 (10:18):
That's what it comes down to. It comes down to leverage.
And you know, you're looking around the league of the
guys who have been paid top dollar and so far
the running back stigma has been moving in the right direction.
Obviously thankful to Saquon and dere Henry, but they're doing
like astronomical things in the running back room. So yeah,
it's very tough because guys don't want to pay runner backs.
(10:38):
You look at we just talked about the Steelers, how
they have a whole running back room where they can
just use multiple backs. So unless you're that constant everyday
cow bell and producing, and like you mentioned, is he
on the field, is he the one getting the football time?
Especially in that offense. The offense is Josh Allen's. He
pretty much does everything for that offense. So it's tough.
And I get it. I mean he does deserve, you know,
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money for sure, but I would just be very very
careful because how much leverage do you really have. You
look at Terry McLaurin tons of leverage, You look at
Michael Palms Parsons, tons of leverage. Because of who they are,
what they have done in this case is very, very tough.
Speaker 4 (11:12):
It's a heart versus head thing, you know.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
If you're a fan, your heart says, oh, yeah, he's great, Jimbo,
and he scored a bunch of touchdowns last year, and
he had an incredible touchdown in the title game against
the Chiefs. He's amazing. Your head says, it's a little
more complicated than that. I understand where he's coming from,
James Flick. This is the one shot he will get
at this. This is the one time when he is
at this point in his career, this age, coming off
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that season scoring that many touchdowns, where he feels like
it's time for ideal that he has to go in
on this. But there's also a test of can you
close your eyes right now and picture the Buffalo Bills
Josh Allen offense without James Cook And sadly for me,
I think the answer is yes. And are they still
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winning games? And I think the answer is yes. He
is a luxury. He's a very talented player that has
again his homegrown But as we've said many times, he's
in the wrong era. This was too and five. He
would have had a huge deal already. It would have
been no big deal. But I think big baller being
is looking at some of the stuff you guys mentioned,
the percentage of the time he's on the field, the
time when he was off the field, How did we
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run the ball and we have this player of mass
destruction at quarterback, right or wrong? I don't think it's
proudent for us to spend huge dollars on this running
back and.
Speaker 4 (12:25):
So Hart versus Head.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
I like James Cook as a player and a person,
but I definitely understand the other side of this.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
All right, the Finyl down for three and out on GMF.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
It's one of these things where sometimes you got to
know what you're good at and what you're not good at.
When I have to read something that says Summer Slam
twenty twenty five and it went down in MetLife Stadium,
I know inherently that I am not going to explain
the following video as well as it could be done.
So instead, I'm gonna ask Kyle to walk us through
a huge moment from Saturday show, because guys, I just
wouldn't do Ausice Kyle take it away.
Speaker 4 (12:55):
All right, let's get into it.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
Summer Slam over the weekend multiple night event now.
Speaker 4 (12:59):
And here we go.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
So WWE has their deal, Seth Rollins walks out with
Paul Hands and CM punk is in the ring and
Seth Rollins has the money in the bank's briefcase.
Speaker 4 (13:07):
But wait, he's injured or is he?
Speaker 1 (13:10):
He drops the crutches, drops the limp, drops the knee brace,
drops the jacket, and.
Speaker 4 (13:17):
Then drops all pretense and.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Struts into the ring in which he uses his right
to use the money in the bank briefcase and he
goes against his old rival Cmpunk and ends up winning
the backstory.
Speaker 4 (13:30):
Guys, they call it the ruse of the century.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Seth has had everyone convinced, depending on what you believe,
up to and including his boss, that he has a
serious knee injury and he could not wrestle.
Speaker 4 (13:41):
This is in the ring, this is out of the ring.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
It's an amazing, amazing piece of showmanship, and it ends
up with Seth Rollins, our dear friend, going and getting
back another belt. We all have our reactions to it.
We thought we've seen everything from pro wrestling. I don't
think we've ever seen this.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
So wait, he took this thing all the way you're
saying outside the building on a social media.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
Like we were concerned?
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Were you concerned about Seth Rolins lower body injury that
he just walks in there?
Speaker 3 (14:05):
Oh? Are you okay with this? Ethically?
Speaker 4 (14:08):
In the wrestling world, it's an incredible thing.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
Not only am I okay within the wrestling world. I
have some inside information here from Good Morning Football, and
everybody listen, I'm going to tell a story. Our GMFB
producer here his name's Chris McClain. He knows Seth because
SES's been on the show several times. A couple of
weeks ago, Chris ran into Seth Rollins at the gym
where he goes to exercise. He saw him there. Seth
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has the knee brace on. He is fully talking about
and owning the injury. He's dragging his leg around, He's limping.
He's limping, and he tells Chris, Yeah, I'm just injured,
you know SummerSlam.
Speaker 4 (14:44):
Chris the intrepid producer he is.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
He says, well, if you're going to be off the
roster for a while for wrestling, why don't you come
in and host with us in Good Morning Football. He
was trying to get him in here because he wouldn't
be wrestling. He completely sold it. He's out and about
in the public gym in character, selling the ruse not
only to the public but to people he knows, like Chris,
only for him to walk out in front of the
Summersland audience and finally drop the cutches and go in
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and win. It is a full, full backstory of incredible
ingenuity and commitment to the bit, up to including lying
to our own staffers. Here on Good Morning Football just
to sell it for this moment, and I could not
respect it more.
Speaker 4 (15:24):
Seth KB, did they say what Jim? First of all,
Chris shout.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
Out, yeah, wait to get in your party about Jim.
Speaker 6 (15:30):
I mean, I can only imagine that he goes to
an expensive gym.
Speaker 4 (15:34):
Out over here in La County. Did he say what,
Jim KB?
Speaker 1 (15:38):
Yeah, I think he works out at a place called Curves.
It's a high end spot for all the wrestlers and
the producers.
Speaker 4 (15:44):
I don't know much about it, but that would be
my guest. Maybe Planet Fitness, but I don't know. Shout
out to McClay well.
Speaker 6 (15:51):
I had to do some research on this one, guys.
I didn't know what was happening, but I watched the
whole clip. I found out what the money in the
bank thing was. What a brilliant, brilliant demonstration of tactics
by set So shout out to Seth front of the show.
I thought that it was perfectly executed.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
All I know is that just me and Seth rollins,
and I'm looking right at you when I say this
is that we are we have the we have the
privilege now and the right to roll your butt in
here to host GMF. You with us, even when you
are injured or not, because no one's ever gonna be
able to tell whether or not you are actually injured.
It's the ultimate injured. It's the ultimate boy who cried Wolf.
So at this point, a crutch or not, rollins, you're
(16:30):
getting in here. You're gonna come on GMFB. And that's
just the demand that we are gonna make. If you
are gonna lie to the producer's faces the way that
you did, My friends, this is fun.
Speaker 7 (16:39):
This is this is all reminds me of ten years
ago Kyle the Heights of the Century. Similar to that.
Sure this if I wanted to put it in football terms,
this is cold Saints in the Super Bowl, where you know,
the Saints line up and all of a sudden, bombs
I cook the ambush Like that's Zach what I see
it like, And it's it's funny. I appreciate that. That's
That's the one thing I do appreciate about wrestling, man,
(17:00):
is like like take it full all the way, all
the way through with the characters. So I love it. Man,
this is this is what it's all about.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
See, I think it's like we're going to get let's
just say Bill's Eagles in the Super Bowl, and for
the entire two weeks leading up to the Super Bowl,
Josh Allen is injured and he's in embrace and he's
not practicing, and the Bills starters.
Speaker 4 (17:20):
Come out to warm up, and then just after the national.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
Anthem, Josh Allen comes out and drops the crutches and
the brace and runs out and starts punching the Eagles
Like that's that's how ridiculous this is. And Triple h
was even like the head of ww He's like, I'm
not sure if I like the.
Speaker 4 (17:34):
Bogus medical reports. Like he's playing right into it too.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
Really, just when you think we've been watching wrestling now
forty to fifty years on the mainstream, it's still coming
up with new stuff.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
I was just about to say that with Triple checknowledge
is just like then you're gonna have media members, We're
going to be annoyed about the conspiracy that the injury
reports were falsify. It's like, it's take things so seriously,
well done, and we will see Steth rollin soon enough
here on GMFB front of our show Congratulations.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
A little later on on our.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
Show, We're going to deep dive into training camp analysis.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
That needs a second, a third, and a fourth.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Look, if you are putting things Zeatman's out their thoughts,
complaints about a quarterback, specifically, Kyle will unearth it and
he will tell you why you're wrong and why you
should not have those thoughts at this time of year.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
Kyle, what else?
Speaker 1 (18:21):
I got a text from someone in media yesterday saying
is it panic time for Caleb Williams And I want
to punch them through my phone. Lamar Jackson and Derek
Henry give opponents nightmares.
Speaker 4 (18:30):
We know that.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
Is this the season Baltimore's dreams finally come true and
they get to that first Lamar Jackson's Super Bowl.
Speaker 4 (18:40):
We're talking Ravens next.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
We'll try to make it a different conversation than it
is every time with the Ravens.
Speaker 8 (18:45):
I promise, good morn football.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Oh and one of the kings in the AFC would
be that of King Derrick Henry. Just an absolutely prolific
year with the Ravens last season and now he is
reconnecting once again with Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
But no matter what.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
Jersey Dereck Henry is wearing, it is one of the
universal truths in football that it is impossible to tackle
that man.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
So when you.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
Consider watching training camp footage of Lamar connecting with Derrick
Henry taking him down, trying to from the back, usually
it takes multiple players. So his teammates now, who are
attempting to do this and practice, we're asked about tackling
Derrick Henry and what that experience is, Like, here's a
flowers in Kyle.
Speaker 8 (19:36):
Hamilton, hit him, just hit him for you.
Speaker 9 (19:42):
Most people now, nah, But I think that's the mentality
you gotta take.
Speaker 4 (19:46):
I mean, obviously it's not an easy task, but you know,
you gotta.
Speaker 9 (19:49):
You're in the league too for that for a reason,
So I think you gotta have confidence when you're going there.
But you know, like I said, it's no that's a
tall task and he's made a living running people over
and stiff arm with people. So I mean, you kind
of just gotta just gotta find it somewhere and hit him.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
So simple.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
I mean, just say, you guys are on his team though,
that's the problem. Kyle Hamilton. Keyle Hamilton's awesome, and he's
part of an amazing Ravens defense that is talented once again,
and they are trying to stack up and compete with
the big three offenses in the AFC this year to
reach the pinnacle, the Bengals, the Chiefs, and the Bills.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
How do we think this is going to go?
Speaker 2 (20:24):
Man Tai for this group of Ravens defenders who are
good every year, but it's again, it's all task in
the AFC.
Speaker 6 (20:31):
I think it's going to go well, you know, and
I think defensively, if you look at the landscape of
last year for them, the first half of the season,
they really struggled under Zach Orr, Zach Orr's first year
defensive coordinator, so you're expecting some growth pain there. But
then the second half of the season comes comes along
and they start to dominate. Matter of fact, they start
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to become one of the best, if not the best
defense in the NFL, ranking first and a whole bunch
of categories. I don't know if we have that graphic,
but they're just first in a whole bunch of categories.
And you add the guys like Jae or Alexander and
Kai Starks to it. Like guys, when I say dominant's
like it's first, first, first, first, first, right.
Speaker 4 (21:09):
Down the line, like they figured it out.
Speaker 6 (21:11):
Now, Kyle Hamilton had a lot to do with that,
moving him around.
Speaker 4 (21:14):
But when you.
Speaker 6 (21:15):
Apply Malachi Starks to that equation Jai or Alexander too,
Marlin Humphrey, Nate Wiggins, and Kyle Hamilton, you can only
imagine that that defense starts to look like the traditional
Baltimore Baltimore Ravens defense of Oh, now, how do they
stack up against those guys?
Speaker 4 (21:31):
I think they stacked up pretty well.
Speaker 6 (21:33):
I think it's gonna be a really good, really exciting
season for them defensively and offensively.
Speaker 4 (21:38):
So Will I'm.
Speaker 6 (21:41):
Really excited to see this Ravens defense take on that
that form that they.
Speaker 4 (21:44):
Had late in the season last year.
Speaker 7 (21:46):
Yeah, it's gonna be unique. It's gonna be musty TV
versus all these teams. You know, we'll start with the
with the Bengals. You know you this is gonna be
the purest seven on seven pitching cats test. Right, you
have Jamar Chase Higgins, MIKEA Saiki, they just signed Noah Fense,
another tight end, and this is gonna be the purest test, Like,
can your DB's offside matchup with us? And if you
can and not get to Joe Burrow, it's gonna be
a problem. And then you look at the Buffalo Bills
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like you, Josh Allen, you really have to try to
take away movement with him right, set the edges and
really try to keep him in the pocket and force
him to throw the ball downfield, which he also does
very well, but you want to limit his quarterback runs
because that's where he can hurt you. And then you
go to the Kansas City Chiefs, like You're gonna get
a lot of more complex situations like rpo zone schemes,
and so now you're really battling, you know, or versus
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Andy Reid a situation. Of course, you got you know,
Mahomes as the quarterback. But they're gonna have a lot
of unique situations, a lot of unique matchups when it
comes to these games. But it's gonna be fun. And
if anyone is built for defensively reasons why you mentioned
Mantai is going to be the Baltimore Ravens.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
It is going to be fun and it is going
to be exciting, and it always is with the Ravens.
I find the Ravens very difficult to talk about because
it all just comes to the same answer every time,
especially this year.
Speaker 4 (22:56):
You know the Ravens didn't.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
Make dramatic moves in the off season because they didn't
need to, and they shouldn't make dramatic moves. They have
the coach, the players, they have the roster, they have
the quarterback. It's just can they make enough plays in
that game in the playoffs. That's all it is. It's
all it was last year. It's all it's gonna be
next year. I see Bills and Bengals and Chiefs, and
it's we know these guys are gonna fight. At the
(23:17):
end of the movie, it's like you want to just
fast forward to the end. You understand.
Speaker 4 (23:21):
It's like Frank Dukes is gonna fight Shong Lee and
the championship.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
Brown of the Turn of the Kumite. Let's just get there.
We know that the Ravens are gonna be very good
this year. Their defense is gonna be good. Their offense
is gonna be good, just like last year, just like
next year. Now some teams they're more more interesting and
more mysterious. I don't know if the Steelers are gonna
be good this year. I'm not really sure. I don't
know if the Bears are gonna be good this year.
I know The Ravens are gonna be good. You know
they're gonna be good. Probably great. It's just one of
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these teams where I don't really need to know anything else.
I know it's what we do, and we get into
the minutia of their defense and their schemes, and it's wonderful.
Speaker 4 (23:53):
And that's football.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
The net sum of all of it is, will you
make enough plays to beat the Bills, Chiefs, Bengals. Usually
they don't, so this year will it be different?
Speaker 4 (24:03):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
But it's like they are one of four see you
in January teams.
Speaker 4 (24:07):
I can't wait for it.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
But in the meantime it's difficult to talk about just
because that's the only answer anyone's interested.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
I didn't know this about the Ravens, but into terms
of seeing you in January, Like, how about can I
interest you in a week seventeen Ravens at Packers game?
Because that's going down at Lambeau in late December.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
That's incredible in.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
The in the scheduling, God's gift in the universe. A
week seventeen Ravens Packers.
Speaker 7 (24:29):
Who who's going to play in that game? Though I
don't care, I want to see it.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
It might matter, It might matter exactly.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
I love this part of GMFP because we've all been
talking in our cushy little climate control studio about things
that are going around the NFL. Well, Tom Pelisera and
Cam Wolf are actually out there there at Falcons training camp.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
We have them now.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
Great to see you guys this morning, and we got
to cover a lot of topics with you too. Cam Wolf,
I'm gonna start with you. Michael Pennick Junior is entering
year two in the NFL. What's going on with his coaches,
the teammates, the people that are around him every day
and they're taking in how this guy is progressing.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
What's going on with him?
Speaker 4 (25:08):
Well, good morning, Jamie.
Speaker 10 (25:09):
We actually just talked to Rahee Morris's head coach about
thirty minutes ago, and he told us that this guy
is a calm, more prepared version of the guy that
we saw last year. Remember he didn't get the starting
reps until December when he got the job. Now he
gets a full offseason as the guy, and they're doing
everything to get him ready for the moment. They've had
Michael Vick and Matt Ryan connect with him to be
(25:31):
able to teach him a little bit about being a
veteran starting quarterback here in Atlanta.
Speaker 4 (25:35):
And also they talked about.
Speaker 10 (25:37):
Michael Pennocks's relationship with his teammates building that confidence that
are so that this offense is ready to flow Week one.
Speaker 4 (25:44):
How confidence is Michael Pennicks.
Speaker 10 (25:45):
He's saying that they have goals of being the best
offense in football. He said, we have the playmakers for it,
he said, Drake London, he won't be underrated or overlooked
after this year, he said, Kyle Pitts, you see us
throw catching passes in training camp, You're going to see
a lot of that throughout the season. Look, this is
a Falcons team that knows they have to win. They
haven't won a playoff game or made the playoffs since
(26:06):
twenty seventeen. But they know that Michael Pinnix is their
guy and they can't wait to unleash him to the
rest of the league and potentially try to win this
NFC South Jamie also.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
Guys, what happened yesterday Tom James Cook. We were talking
about him earlier.
Speaker 4 (26:20):
It's a tough one, great player, great stats, not on
the field. A lot take us through all of that.
Speaker 11 (26:25):
With the Bills They're been ongoing conversations Kyle negotiations dating
back months. The Bills tried to get a lot of
their core players locked up back in the spring. They
did it with the likes of Christian Benford on a
new deal, Greg Russou as well. James Cook was the
priority at that time. The sides were not able to
get on the same page. Those negotiations have been continuing,
(26:47):
so James Cook yesterday did not participate in practice. He
was asked repeatedly by the media why he didn practice,
Will he practice tomorrow? When will he practice again? Cook
would only respond business now. My understanding has been the
sides have not been that far apart on a James
Cook contract extension for all the way back to the spring. However,
(27:09):
there is no close. There is only done, and there
is not a done deal at this time with James
Cook GM. Brandon Bean was on the radio locally in
Buffalo earlier today said it's disappointing for him against the
first time in his nine years as GM that a
player is not practiced because of a contract situation. Buffalo
has not had the proverbial hold ins, which has reminded
(27:31):
of everybody is not a real thing. Under the collective
bargaining agreement, you cannot hold in. If you don't practice
and you're there, the team can find you for not practicing.
Speaker 4 (27:40):
We shall see.
Speaker 11 (27:41):
This is not anybody hitting the eject button. This is
not Micah Parsons in Dallas. As the conversations have been continuing, obviously,
James Cook, in consultation with his people, made the decision
to not be on the practice field yesterday. We shall
see if he's out there today or at any time
in the coming days as those conversations potentially.
Speaker 6 (28:02):
Come to a head in Buffalo Guests, Yeah, Tom, we
shall see that with James Cook, with somebody we know.
We will see As Bajeon Robinson, I know a lot
of people are excited about fantasy football projections with them.
Saquon Barkley talked about his cutting ability. How has Bajeon
looked in trend camp so far?
Speaker 11 (28:19):
Nailing that pronunciation that he clarified during Back Together Weekend.
Bijon Robinson coming off of a season where.
Speaker 4 (28:25):
It was a huge breakthrough for him.
Speaker 11 (28:27):
In a year two, almost nineteen hundred yards from scrimmage,
he had fifteen touchdowns. If he's able to replicate that
in twenty twenty five. For you get your fantasy team
here for a second man tie, this is gonna be
a very lucrative coming off season for Bijeon Robinson. You
look across the league at the running back market, it's
been fickle four years. There's three guys Christian McCaffrey, Saquon
(28:47):
Barkley and Derek Henry who were making fifteen million dollars
plus per year. If Bijon, who is still only twenty
three years old, puts up another season like he did
in twenty twenty four, he quite possibly is going to
be in that conversation as well. It's a big part
of the offense. Can you talked about it with Michael
Pennix Junior as they're trying to bring him.
Speaker 7 (29:04):
A law here.
Speaker 11 (29:04):
If you're able to have a strong running game, that's
a pretty good way to take the pressure off your
young quarterback. I wouldn't anticipate that we see much, if any,
of Bishon Robinson in the preseason. If you're going to
be a load carrying back like he can be, save
it for the regular season. We're going to look out
here at him today. And also, I want to be clear,
guys that file footage we were showing to the quarterback asually.
Speaker 8 (29:25):
That was from another day.
Speaker 11 (29:27):
Right now, we've got a little sideways rain going out here.
They are outside though, on the practice field, on the grass,
and we'll look forward to this over the next game.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
Everyone battling elements tom players hate when they're a market
for their contract is called fickle. So I'm glad that
we've moved beyond that with running backs. And I don't
want to overlook the flex that you two had cam
when you started this report saying that, oh, you're just
catching up with the head coach thirty minutes ago. What
else was that conversation, Like, well done you guys, You're
up and at it early today.
Speaker 10 (29:54):
Yeah, Jamie, great news from that press conference. Michael Pennocks
Kirk Cousins will not play in the preseason game on Friday.
Raheem Morris told us you'll see a lot of Easton
stick out there. Gonna wait till later in the preseason
to see those quarterbacks play. But the most important thing
that he told us was his routine in the morning.
He said he gets up Rahee Morris four am every morning,
(30:15):
gets a cold plunge action three minutes in the cold
plunge to it tub works out even before he gets
to the facility. I have done thirteen seconds of cold
plunge before, so I can't imagine three minutes daily. But
he said he's already ready to go. But it's great
for his bones, great for his recovery. So not only
the players get recovery action, you got the Falcons head
coach Raheem Morris getting cold plunge four am workouts for
(30:38):
training idea.
Speaker 4 (30:40):
That's all me.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
Still not early enough for to join us on GMFF.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
That's all I gotta say about that.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
It's gotta be three am and it's got to be
six minutes in the cold plunge. Tom Pellisero, Cam wol
If you guys are the best, Thank you so much.
Get your umbrellas and get out there and check out
the quarterbacks.
Speaker 12 (30:55):
We'll see you guys a little bit, all right, welcome
back now.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
Some people don't like it, but I don't mind too
much the training camp passing stats getting tweeted and shared
on the internet because I think there's a hunger for it.
Speaker 4 (31:22):
I think fans want it.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
There's also a bloodlust that goes on for players failing
in training camp for players looking bad for throwing ugly passes,
for throwing pick sixes, player looks sharp, boring. Let me
see the terrible, unsightly interception footage with which I can
make fun of that player and tweet jokes. Over the weekend,
(31:43):
the Bears had their Family Night scrimmage at Soldier Field.
On Soldier Field, Caleb Williams through a really ugly interception.
Here's the fan captured video with the phone from the
stands that makes the internet and everyone lost their minds.
Here's just one of the tweets that came up about
Caleb throwing an interception the first week in August. Kayla
Williams already in mid season fourm fire. Far be it
(32:05):
for me to criticize the people at Hater Reports. It's
not exactly the Associated Press, but I do think that
accounts like this, God Bless him, drive conversations, create narratives,
establish reputations for players, and I would just respond to
this type of joke, which was everywhere. Caleb Williams already
midseason form. Are you talking about like last year in
(32:25):
the mid season when he went nine straight games without
throwing an interception? Nine straight games, every single one of
them a loss for the Bears because his coordinator got fired.
His coach got fired mid season form Bears men should hope.
So he didn't throw a single interception as a rookie
through the mid season with no offensive line, trying to
(32:46):
gel as a rookie with everyone around him getting fired.
His only mid season play was incredible under horrific dress.
Speaker 4 (32:52):
I got a text from.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
Somebody yesterday in the media, someone that you know, that
just said Caleb Williams panic time, and I wanted to
punch this person through the phone. You would think right now,
based on the reaction to Caleb Williams interception on August third,
that it is actually October fourteenth, the Bears are one
and four and he's suffering badly. There is something specific
(33:13):
about the Bears quarterbacks where it's comfortable for the Internet
for them to be inept, for them to be bad.
They want them as a character to kick around. They
want to mean them for being bad. They've done it
since the Internet was invented, and they don't.
Speaker 4 (33:27):
Want to stop. That's fine, but don't do it.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
Based on an August third interception, when I just told
you you played over two months of football without throwing
one and Caleb Williams far from the first person that
had this happen to.
Speaker 4 (33:40):
Let's look back a little bit. Let's look back to.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
The year twenty nineteen when Lamar Jackson is having his
training camp and maybe things aren't looking that great, and
the tweet comes out this is just one of many
Lamar having issues throwing the football. Several of his passes
woggled through the air, and everyone loses their minds. Always
should have sticked with Flacco. Lamar he can't throw, he
can't pass. Then Lamar takes the field for twenty nineteen
(34:05):
and the very first game of that season, Lamarthur for
five touchdowns with no picks, five and zero. He went
on to win the league MVP. Look at this, This
was the fish in a barrel game. Week one, he
beats the Bengals. He was the best player in the NFL.
But you go back a month and you think it's
hilarious that we were losing our mind about wobbly passes
(34:25):
in training camp.
Speaker 4 (34:26):
You want another example.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
How about Rock Party looked at his mister irrelevance. Twenty
twenty three training camp. Ten interceptions in training camp for
Brock Purty so far two interceptions in today's practice. I
don't know if he's up to being the leading man
for Kyle Shanahan. Guess what first five weeks of the
season party nine touchdowns, zero interceptions led the NFL through
(34:53):
the first couple of months in ratio, went all the
way to the Super Bowl. Yet there's a tweet from
august An I don't know. Two more picks and practice.
Speaker 4 (35:03):
Guys. It's fine to to.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
Statistics, draw the conclusions if you want, but these dramatic
overreactions are so obnoxious, so overdone, so pessimistic, so critical
of players. If anything, overreact to how good someone's touchdown looks.
Speaker 4 (35:18):
Try that maybe they won't be that good during the season.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
But it's fun to celebrate a player trying to find
his footing, like Caleb Williams in the NFL. I really
do think it's a Caleb thing. I think it's a
very specific thing. I don't know what the internet would
do when and if Kleb Beliams becomes a fantastic player
in his second.
Speaker 4 (35:34):
Year, what are the jokes going to be about. You'll
always find something.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
But in meantime, Caleb threw a terrible intersection over this
week Over this weekend, who knows. Maybe he threw it
to try to put on a show for the fans,
maybe he threw it because it's practice and screw it,
or maybe it's August third and he's having a really
difficult time right now.
Speaker 4 (35:51):
Justin Ben Johnson's offense.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
He's got a month, he's got talent, he's got a
supporting cast.
Speaker 4 (35:56):
I know everybody's got jokes.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
It's just way too much, especially when that joke is
midseason form and the only time we've seen him the
mid season, he's been.
Speaker 4 (36:03):
An excellent form. I'm finding a joke place. Thank you, guys.
I love that, KB. That's God's work right there.
Speaker 6 (36:10):
Reminded me of when Jamar Chase was in his rookie
year and then training Camra. They're like, oh, he're dropping passes,
he doesn't know how to catch the ball, and then
fast forward ap offensive Rookie of the Year like.
Speaker 4 (36:20):
That, that's just what happens.
Speaker 6 (36:21):
That's I'm so glad that KB you identified that because
as a player, one of the things I'm passionate about
on this show is giving players a voice and giving
him a narrative and giving some perspective for the fans
at home who we love, but just giving them perspective
as to how these guys think and what they may
be going through.
Speaker 4 (36:36):
So KB, bravo, brother, bravo.
Speaker 7 (36:38):
I'm just in his smiling man because I got Aaron
Rodgers through a pick six. Yeah you know, hey, love
it man.
Speaker 4 (36:44):
Through a pick six.
Speaker 7 (36:45):
Great things on the horizon for the Pittsburgh Steels.
Speaker 4 (36:47):
Let's go.
Speaker 3 (36:48):
It's the contrarian approach to it.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
It's like, see what you read, what you have to
hear about these guys, and then take the opposite stands Kyle,
when you see tweets like this from media members, let's say,
do you ever directly reach out to the person and
you're like, come on, man, like you don't have to
put that out of that guy? Do you take this
upon yourself? Put on the hero, keep if you will
for the player, and.
Speaker 3 (37:07):
You're like, on, behalf of this, dude, stop it with this.
Speaker 4 (37:10):
August third reporting a couple of things.
Speaker 1 (37:12):
I have a bylaw in my career that I don't
do Twitter beef.
Speaker 4 (37:15):
I find it pathetic. I don't like it. I don't
get into any of that stuff.
Speaker 1 (37:19):
Two, I don't reply to these accounts on Twitter because
I have my own television show so I can just
do it on.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
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Speaker 3 (37:43):
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Speaker 2 (37:44):
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class putting their names on the map. That sounds so
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Speaker 4 (38:08):
Yeah. I'm definitely into dinosaurs. That's a dinosauric. That pig
is massive.
Speaker 5 (38:19):
I'm a big, strong, fast attack from all sides.
Speaker 8 (38:25):
Night was Garrett lays him.
Speaker 4 (38:26):
Down and gladiator for the other guy over dinosaur thing
he does. I'm sun little creature.
Speaker 3 (38:37):
What did we just watch?
Speaker 7 (38:41):
I'm so confused.
Speaker 2 (38:42):
It's fantastic editing Browns and pastors from Miles Garrett says
during training camp, just keep your opinions that you can
share them with the class when we after we hear
from Miles Garrett. He's he's young, he's healthy, and apparently
he's very open minded about trying out new positions on
the football field.
Speaker 3 (38:56):
He had this exchange with one of his teammates, the
kicker Dustin Hopkins, about changing jobs for a day.
Speaker 4 (39:02):
I want to swist some jobs for today. You know,
maybe one day I come out in your uniform.
Speaker 7 (39:07):
And you start, hey, I'm down.
Speaker 4 (39:09):
I'm just some kicking drills.
Speaker 3 (39:11):
All right, there it is.
Speaker 2 (39:12):
Can you imagine already hard enough to tackle the guy
now he's gonna kick Manti. Do you have another position
that you would have wanted to try for a day when.
Speaker 6 (39:19):
You were playing, I would say punter. I would say punter.
I think shout out to punter's respect to you, But
you guys got the easiest job, Like you're never in
a game winning situation, and if you happen to kick
the ball through the end.
Speaker 4 (39:30):
Zone, like it's like, oh, it's a touchback. So I
would have to say punter, like kicker, kicker. I don't
want to be a kicker because the whole team could
have a horrible game. You miss a game winning field goal,
it's your fault. I don't want that. Give me the punter.
It just cuts up on to this that thing. I
don't care.
Speaker 7 (39:44):
Yeah, I mean, I was fortunate to play multiple positions,
but I would. I would probably be a backup quarterback
to a franchise quarterback because you don't do anything.
Speaker 4 (39:53):
You do.
Speaker 7 (39:53):
You make, you make, make a lot of money, do
a great job, but you're never going to see the field.
You don't do you practice. You're pretty much a quarterback coach.
You're an extension of the quarterback coach, but you don't
do anything. I would love to be a backup right
behind a franchise quarterback Kyle.
Speaker 4 (40:08):
I like to be Scott Hanson. That's easy, man.
Speaker 1 (40:11):
All you gotta do is just tweet out five more sundays.
Speaker 4 (40:14):
Football fans loses their minds.
Speaker 1 (40:17):
He comes out on that first Sunday like like Zerk
season three hundred and people just go nuts. I feel
like there's football fans who are looking forward to Scott
Hanson making his debut this season more than Patrick Mahomes.
It's an unbelievable thing of hero worship that he commands,
I can only just watch it with envy. It's an
amazing power Scott has. And by the way, football fans,
we're down to only.
Speaker 4 (40:36):
Four and a half weeks.
Speaker 13 (40:40):
Man a similar sort of sentiment here as well. I
am bill trade positions with anyone currently on the beach
in some sort of tropical place.
Speaker 3 (40:48):
Uh huh.
Speaker 13 (40:49):
You know's beak a little reprieve before we really hit
the ground, Manning, because it is a gauntlet once we
get to the season.
Speaker 2 (40:54):
I want to trade positions with the person who has
to produce angry runs, because all you have to do
is just watch football and come up with rage runs
and then send them to and then he just makes
the whole thing sing Kyle. I mean, that must be
the easiest job in television.
Speaker 4 (41:09):
Now, well, you know you should ask Jim.
Speaker 1 (41:11):
You should ask Jim at be producer Chris McClain second
mentioned in the show.
Speaker 4 (41:15):
For him.
Speaker 1 (41:15):
He's the guy who ran into Seth Rowins at the
gym a few weeks ago and Seth was dragging his
knee around and just fish hooking McClain and he's actually injured.
It's an amazing story, Seth, we got it. You gotta
come on the show and talk about what happened about
SummerSlam over the weekend, because everybody's losing our mind about it,
and you're one of our dumb friends here in our
little silly show.
Speaker 13 (41:33):
Even his wife Becky Lynch was tweeting like, don't believe
everything you see on the Internet.
Speaker 3 (41:38):
So a lot of more going into that face.
Speaker 7 (41:41):
He Jim was a backup, wasn't Yeah, Joe Montana, Steve
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