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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Good Morning Football is the production of the NFL in
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New York City. We are at capacity here in our
New York condo because we have two very cool people here.
They're the hosts of the new sports talk show one
oh six and Sports. It premieres next Wednesday. I'm b
e t at ten pm Eastern and you're going to
watch it is CBS sports analysts and reporter Ashley Nicole
Moss and number one Cam Newton.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Guys, welcome. How are we? We look good? Everyone looks great.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Cam.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
You're getting all fit up and everything you feel? Okay,
You're good, You're ready to roll?
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Think so okay? Good? Thanks?
Speaker 4 (00:58):
So that espresso you know, just not kicking it obviously McDonald.
Speaker 5 (01:01):
No, yeah, I gotta get your more.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
The first of like six of them, six espressos.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Is that how you roll?
Speaker 4 (01:10):
As is notorious for just growing out when I give
in it context. That is my Starbucks. A matter of fact, matter,
we shouldn't. We shouldn't shot out any other brands that
did not pay us.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
That's what content. But my coffee order typically.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
When I go to coffee shops is six shots of
espresso and I sip it throughout the day. That's that's
just Sometimes I finish it, sometimes I don't.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
But it comes off extremely.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Aggressive when people hear it, it's like, wait what.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
When I first met Ashley, she was like, listen, this
is judgment free zone.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
I'm not going to judge you. But here we are.
Speaker 6 (01:50):
It's judgment, Brooklyn girl, judgment.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
This is the kind of thing you're going to get
on one O six and Sports for Sure. Chemistry Sports
Tangents tell us about the show, Actually.
Speaker 7 (02:01):
We're really excited. Cam and I did not work with
each other prior to the screen test, and it just
really went just couldn't have gone better honestly when we
tested together.
Speaker 8 (02:11):
And the show is going to take everything.
Speaker 7 (02:13):
You loved about one O six and Park, the culture,
the countdown, the live audience, but it's going to bring
it into the sports world. And I think it's going
to be really exciting for people to be able to
have conversations that you don't hear typically on mainstream networks
when you think of sports, right and beet is getting
into a new avenue for them, and they're really excited
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about it.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Obviously, we have.
Speaker 7 (02:36):
The EP of mav and Lebron, and we know what
they have done in the industry. So there's a lot
of people behind the scenes and in front of the
camera who are really dedicated to making this something special.
Speaker 9 (02:45):
This would be an easy question for Cam, but I
want to ask you, what's something about the NFL culture
right now that makes you excited.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
I mean, we were.
Speaker 7 (02:52):
Talking about this last night. The amount of black starting
quarterbacks in the NFL is really exciting. And what was
the phrase you used yesterday? What did you have when
you were talking about the quarterback position?
Speaker 3 (03:05):
I talk a lot.
Speaker 7 (03:06):
It was a high intelligent well oh.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's an intelligent position.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Yeah, and I.
Speaker 7 (03:12):
Think it's for a position that really a lot of
people thought black quarterbacks were unable to do successfully in
the professional league and even at the collegiate level with
certain programs. To see that kind of change and to
now be fifty percent of the quarterbacks in the league,
it's been a remorsing shift.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Maybe more.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
Yeah, I would say to that when I came into
the league, had Vince Young was still was still in
the league, you had Michael Vick, obviously, Donovan mcnahon, all
those guys.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Is on the back end of their career.
Speaker 4 (03:46):
And whether you're black, white, no matter. But this is
the common denominator. There's a lot of athletic quarterbacks in
the NFL, and when I came in, there wasn't a
lot of like I was the minority.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
Not for race purposes, it's just a skill. So then
to look around now a guy like Jared Golf is
now the new minority.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
When you see Matthew Stafford, even though has elite as
he is as a thrower.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
Not a lot of guys look to those guys as
we're going to get that right. Even Trevor Lawrence last night,
what about that guy? You know what I'm saying, he's from.
He's from Georgia, Gainesville, Cartersville.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
I'm sorry, a lot of a lot of product come
out of Georgia.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
What are you laughing at?
Speaker 3 (04:44):
Really?
Speaker 9 (04:45):
Well, it's good as the stable to the soil, He's saying, Hey, man,
we do it right where I'm from.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
Speaking of loyal to the soil.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
We're having an ongoing weekly discussion discussion.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
We got okay, I.
Speaker 5 (05:02):
Have a Brooklyn girl right, My dog from New York
as well, so bro So Brons, all the boroughs so
I'm saying to myself, I'm like, yo, if you sow knew, yo.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
I'm a Dallas Cowboys fan. I said, stop the nonsense.
Speaker 10 (05:20):
Like what do we can we also though, point out
how have been it is for Dallas Cowboy fans to
not only be from Dallas, they are They're America's team.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
For you can't be pro New York.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
I'm not the only New York I.
Speaker 4 (05:37):
Know.
Speaker 7 (05:38):
It's not just me.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
I'm on camp side, like I'm where you're from. You
know what I mean?
Speaker 7 (05:43):
I do, said, I wear a badge of honor. But
the Cowboys were thrust upon me since birth.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
I had no choice.
Speaker 9 (05:49):
Sure, it was the only Steelers fan, but I grew
up loving Lawrence Taylor.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
The Giants were everything from me.
Speaker 9 (05:55):
And it wasn't until I got drafted to Steelers obviously
played for the Jets.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
Then I kind of had to turn my loyalty.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
But I'm see, but that's the truck.
Speaker 7 (06:02):
And I said that, saying I have to use that
argument on Cam. I said, well, are you a Falcons fan?
And he was like, but it's different.
Speaker 6 (06:08):
I played, so you play, and then they ran my
division too, so it's like I did Philly Philly plays
in the general on this because you got Dallas in
New York, same division.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
Let's talk a little Eagles because they're a very interesting
team with a very interesting quarterback. For sure, they just
take a loss. There are lots of things going on.
What's the state of the nation of the Eagles for.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Camp right now? Man listen off as a coordinator.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
Coach Patulo is a person that I have real questions for.
And it's not questions as in concern and like, yo,
you don't need a job.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
It's like, yo, how do you manage talent?
Speaker 11 (06:52):
You have a very capable quarterback that it looks like
from the optics that we've seen this we're getting bare
minimum from Jalen Hurts.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
Is not asked to do as much. That's not to
say that he's not capable.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
You have an all pro running back, you have all
pro receivers.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
That's capable of doing these crazy lines.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
It's like, yo, like, how do you manage that talent
around him? And you know, last week's performance is a
little alarming, having six sacks that's the most of or
top for most you know Jayleen Hurt's career. But yes,
it's it's talent management. How do you really capsulate, you know,
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what our identity is. Because last year it was evident
they're going to run the ball and they're going to
make you understand that they're going.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
To control the line of scrimmage. Well now this year
it's like a lot of in the windows.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
The hater and take cam is that he is a passenger,
and that I love Jalen.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
There's a passenger.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
He's a passenger, and that like he has a running game,
is an offensive line, and that maybe he couldn't stand
on his own like some other guys could.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Like maybe no, no, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
That's not true.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
See my take with Jayleen Hurts is not that he's
a passenger seat driver. He's well and capable of driving
the car, fixing the car, polishing the car.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
He's just not asked to do that.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
And we look at Jalen as a person who.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
Is so impactful and and a person who's a good guy.
But then when you when you see a play, he's
not gonna be rambunctious or voids stress of face.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
And and I think they had the same thing in
a j. Brown. You know, we've seen.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
A peaceful protests sort of speak to try to get
people's understanding of try to get people's attentions like yo.
Speaker 11 (08:47):
I'm gonna read it, and cryptic tweet and yet there's still.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Forward the far one.
Speaker 9 (08:58):
Well, you hit it right on the head because I
think there's any I think this falls in along with you
because A J. Brown, with everything that he offers, I
think he's an offer right, He's all dull and but
there's a there's there's a myths about Hi, him being selfish,
a me guy. You was a guy in your early
in your career because you were so I guess you
were a big time you were Hollywood, but there were
some myths about your game. Is there anything you he
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should be wanting to debunk. It's like you had to
debunk through your career.
Speaker 12 (09:24):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
What are the people who really know him saying? Well,
they don't say much.
Speaker 4 (09:30):
Yeah, because everybody knows well from I've never heard nobody
say anything bad about a J. Broh, a coach, a teammate,
a person, a source has never said Cam Newton was
a bad teammate. Now and as you know, men Ashley
are going on these you know, different pressers and talking
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about you know, what our anticipation is for the show
me personally. I've always wanted to move people emotionally. So
whether you're seeing this and saying like, why how does
he have this?
Speaker 3 (10:05):
Haddle?
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Gotcha? Where do I get that? Hat?
Speaker 3 (10:09):
Ma Chika heads.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Like.
Speaker 6 (10:13):
Either way, you have to be moved with emotion to
look at.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
Me and to not feel nothing. I did not do
my job.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
I hear that, And.
Speaker 4 (10:22):
That's where you know when you it impacts you or
penetrates you, when whoa it makes you feel in a
certain type of way, when you know somebody actually knows
you and they're able to say, man, you know what,
I'm runner.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
For three years. That's not him.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
Ashley. You said down and you immediately.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
Even before the segment started, you got opinions, You got tanks,
you're trash in Chicago pizza like you are. You are
a talk show host with your own really strong opinions.
Tell us just a little more about Camus Camp. He
just said, you're gonna get a reaction on of me,
the working experience, the discussion experience, because we're going to
want to six in sports.
Speaker 7 (11:05):
I'm excited because I think Cam and I have a
lot of similarities, but I also think we're different. Right,
He comes from the player aspect of now entering media.
I come from going to journalism school and being in
media in the more traditional sense, right, And I think
that that's a good balance, and I think we also
push each other to kind of venture into each side
a little bit more. Cam is never afraid to ruffle
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some feathers, and that is something that he pushes me.
You want to fuck him, but he doesn't. It's not
to invoke a particular reaction. It's genuinely just how he is.
And I've been telling everybody the Cam Newton that you
see on camera.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
I think, you know, we're all so familiar with.
Speaker 7 (11:49):
Cam new and the football player and who he was
on the field. It's super Cam, it's Davin, you know,
we all know that. But the Canadon you guys see
on camera as a media personality is very much who
is behind the seeds, maybe just even more so. Like
it's constant jokes, yeah, very serious when he has to
headphones on when he wants to get into the zone.
But I think it's a good balance of the two
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of us because we come from different paths. He's very
down South and very East Coast.
Speaker 6 (12:14):
Yeah, yeah, he tries to except for your football.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
Listen.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
The sign of a good segment is we wanted to
keep going and going, and the good news is it
does keep going, and it goes on one oh six
and Sports. It is next Wednesday. It's on b ET.
It's ten pm Eastern. You guys are a revelation. You're
gonna pluck a lot of feathers and we're gonna be watching.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
I love you now with us Helly, Yeah, we're gonna
come hang out with you. Look at this picture right here.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
We've got a basketball, we got a football, we got hats,
we got feathers, we got everything.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
Ashley, Nicole Moss and our guy Cam Newton.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
We love you, guys, and thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
We're so happy about the showresiated time. Thank you they
are wave goodbye everybody watching him one o six and Sports.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Good Mom.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
I got a text from my mom this week, who
loves football, and she said, why did these players keep.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Dropping the ball before they score?
Speaker 1 (13:10):
I don't understand it, Mom, Neither do I nobody does.
Because it used to just happen every once in a
while and DeShawn Jackson would do it and we'd laugh.
But now we've only played five games in the NFL,
and it's already happened twice this season, and in both
cases it has cost the team the game. So what
I'm really trying to figure out is the why why
did these players drop the ball before the goal line?
Especially players who have scored countless touchdowns throughout their football
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careers and should be very comfortable before we ask the question.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
Let's get into the examples.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
You saw it this past week one of the strangest
worst losses of all time, the Arizona Cardinals. Amari de Mercado,
Jay Mercado, a great, great story. He breaks away and
he is going to make this amazing touchdown, The Cardinals
are going to win the game, and he just drops it.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
He drops the ball.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
Amarin Demarcado, in his football career pro's, college, and high school,
has scored fifty touchdowns. This would have been number fifty one.
He's been there before.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
His explanation said it was emotional, it was a big play.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
Afterwards, Kyler Murray, who's very close with him on the team, said,
I don't get it.
Speaker 13 (14:12):
Mari's one of the closest dudes I am. You know,
I'm really close with Mario. I know his character, I
know his IQ of the game and never in a
million years last You know, I wouldn't think that a
Maorio would do that, but obviously we all make mistakes.
You know, he's going to take that on the chant.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
He understands that.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
When was the last time it happened. I don't know.
Last week Colt sprams in a very.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
Tight game, Adam and I Mitchell makes a brilliant play
and then does this at the goal line at night.
Mitchell has scored thirty five touchdowns in his football career.
He was more of a trying to transfer the ball
to maybe raise it and he drops it. Quote after
the game, I just lost focus.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
It's so strange. Happened twice this year. Guess what, guys,
it happened twice last year.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
Let's go to someone who's always scoring touchdowns from the
same franchise twenty twenty four. Jonathan Taylor in week fifteen
is doing the Jonathan Taylor thing and he's.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
About to score. He just drops it casually.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
This was not transferring the ball, This was not trying
to raise it to celebrate.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
He dropped it. It's a fumble.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
Jonathan Taylor had scored at that point one hundred and
fifty seven touchdowns.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
In his career.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
He says afterwards that he was not consciously aware that
he was dropping the ball.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
He should be very comfortable. He does this like you
and I tie our shoes.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
He scores touchdowns and still he drops it inexplicably.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Also last year, Week nine.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
The Halloween game the Jets, Malachi Corley, young player drops
the ball, same thing he just casually dropped. This one
was not close. It's not close. Malachi Corley at that
point in his career, scored forty touchdowns throughout high school,
college and the pros. Afterwards, he says, I don't know
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as this wasn't a definding moment for me. Let's ask
his quarterback last season. Let's see if he has something
uplifting to say.
Speaker 14 (16:03):
Yeah, we have a touchdown called, you know, taking off
the board, silly play.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
I mean, he's not wrong.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
Also, last year, Bengals safety Jordan Battle a scoop and score. Jordan,
what about the score part? You gotta get it over
the goal line?
Speaker 2 (16:19):
Nope, drops it. Knew it was happening. In one of
the most Bengals plays you'll ever see. A guy who
had already scored six.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Touchdowns, including three at Alabama. He says, I wasn't throwing
the ball down. I was just trying to switch it
to my other hand and it fell. It slipped out
of my glip. Let me ask you a question, Jorgan,
Why were you trying to switch it to the other hand?
Speaker 2 (16:38):
Why just run and get the six points? They ended
up winning the game, thankfully. Next, Oh, wait, hold on,
if you're gonna do this, Mike Garafalo, don't do.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
It when you're doing in season hard knocks, because there's
gonna be brilliant video of everyone's reaction.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
Roll it.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
Now.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
Battle did fumble it as he got right across the
goal line.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Wait, wait, wait, here we go. Here we go take
the touchdown off to board, and it's Tennessee football again.
But I didn't know what just happened, Brough, I don't
we score?
Speaker 15 (17:12):
Then I see Zach face like, was Zach face completely changed?
Speaker 2 (17:16):
Why he dites an end zone? Yea, I didn't see
what happened. I just looked at I turned around and
looked at Zach face. Zach Face was like, that's crazy, bro.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
But now we're not even shocked when it happens anymore.
You want to go old one, there's Joe Flacco twenty
teams ago. He gets picked up by Danny Trevathan.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
To watch this. I mean, Danny, you're at the three
yard line and you drop that. It's not even not
even close.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
Now, it's a defensive player who had never scored a
touchdown in the pros, college or high school.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
That would have been his first career touchdown. Danny said afterwards,
I was just in the moment. Yeah, but you were
barely in the red zone when you drop that thing.
This is an unbelievable thing.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
But at least it's a defensive guy who got really excited.
Let's go to the goat. There it is two thousand
and eight. Let's go to the goat a guy who
had already done it in a high school All star game.
This is DeShawn Jackson's first career touchdown until it wasn't.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
He throws it backwards against the pass from McNabb and
chucks it.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
He had never scored before, but he had scored fifty
six times at Cow and I believe long Beach Polly
to Shan, Jackson says, ah, I'm not even worried about it.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
Well, you know, it was kind of worried about it.
Big Red back when it was big Green.
Speaker 13 (18:22):
Oh, he just needs to learn from that.
Speaker 8 (18:24):
I make sure he gets across the line, you know,
gets across goal line and can't do that. By the
way Donald play.
Speaker 13 (18:31):
He played his heart out, you know, he played his
heart out just a little bit short.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
So we can just roll the highlights and have some laughs.
And we have.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
But again, why is this happening? I thought Connor or
from the side did a great job. He found a
University of Michigan professor of psychology this week to be like,
why is this happening? And there's something called a multitasking
deficit and I'm paraphrasing here, in which the player has
the goal of scoring and as they passed the last defender,
passed the last official, it sets off stimuli that activate
the goal of celebrating and the wires get crossed. My
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very humble opinion, I believe that there is a lease
for some players when they cross the goal line, or
when they think that they did. Where from the time
they get the ball or catch the ball, it is
so intense psychologically and physically, and you're battling and battling
and finally there's this I did it.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
I scored for you and I.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
It's akin to dropping your luggage at the front door
of your house after a long trip, but you can't
do it out on the street. You have to actually
get into the house before you drop it. Mike, I
think the strangest thing isn't that it's the defensive guys
like Trabathan. It's the guys like Jonathan Taylor who do
this every single day and should feel comfortable scoring. That's
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my best explanation of why it's happening.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
But apparently it's not stopping. That's great.
Speaker 16 (19:42):
Good job by Connor or that that must have been
so busy formulating that that he forgot to set his
fantasy football lineup.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
For three straight weeks.
Speaker 16 (19:48):
He's in my fantasy Oh really for like three straight weeks,
Tyro Tracy. He's got five guys currently that are not
going to play this week.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Set your lineup or thanks for the opening. I would
like to see de Marcado.
Speaker 16 (20:00):
De Marcado score this weekend right and have the ball
in his hands and like two hands into the end
zone all the way through, all the way to the sideline.
Dudes trying to pry it out, sit down on the
bench like.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
This just with the football at this point. Great. I
think there's a chance for redemption there.
Speaker 16 (20:15):
Jonathan Gannon was fined one hundred thousand for his reaction
on the sideline there, which a lot of folks who
lost and survivor will probably had the same reaction as well.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
Would've liked to have done that and more.
Speaker 16 (20:26):
But I think that there's a reset there with the leadership.
Paris Johnson Junior, who doesn't get enough credit for what
he does both as a football player and as a
leader on the team, had his hand on De Mercado's
shoulder as Gannon was coming up. They really have tried
to rally around this moment there, and I think it
potentially could be a rallying moment for the Arizona Cardinals
moving forward here.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
That's what I'm interested in seeing.
Speaker 15 (20:47):
Kab you said, a psychologist said, what it was wires
that we are getting crossed when something happens.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
What was the explanation?
Speaker 1 (20:54):
Again, they get caught up in the moment, and it's
you have a goal of scoring and then you transfer
to the goal of celebrating, and it happens too early
because of the rennoline and the stimulation in your brain
that was there.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
It makes sense.
Speaker 15 (21:07):
It happens to me a lot on this show. There's
a goal of scoring on my segments, and then my
wires get cross and then the stuttering happens and I.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
Start to fumble a little bit. So I get it
makes sense to me.
Speaker 12 (21:18):
Jamie, I'm glad that you were able to justify it.
I appreciate the luggage analogy and Manta you're able to
find the parallel as well.
Speaker 8 (21:24):
I like that SoundBite from Andy Reid.
Speaker 12 (21:26):
What a cool, calm and classy way to address that.
Speaker 8 (21:30):
The fact that like, yeah, he'll learn from it.
Speaker 12 (21:32):
Yeah, I don't understand why we're calling guys character or
IQ into it and when all of a sudden it's
like he made a mistake. I think at the top
of the list of people that know they made the
mistake is going to be the guy in which who
made that poor decision at the goal line. So I
appreciate Big Red from even years ago.
Speaker 15 (21:48):
Kyle Young big Red too.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
Yeah, it's happening so commonly that it's like the coaches
have to spend time on it now.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
It reminds me of players.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
We're diving for the pylon and fumbling and Belichick among
others saying we're not doing that anymore.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
Don't do that.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
Do you really have to take practice time or meeting
time to say, guys run through the end line.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
Our guy will not be a guy who drops the
ball at the end zone. Twice already this year, twice
last year.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
It is not an anomaly. It's happening all the time,
and I hope it never happens again.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
Good morning football.
Speaker 16 (22:38):
That's off the Bears, all right, touchdown, touchdown Bears.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
We're on a winning streak right now. Man, two games
in a row. Most years we're done by now. I'm
excited about the Bears. I'm hike William's got Greek rust
for the enoe. I've got to reel good about it.
She pulls on out of the question, you know.
Speaker 12 (23:01):
Good, better best, Never let it rest till you're good
is better, and you're better is your best. And when
we first heard that, we almost all of our chairs
trying to translate what Ben Johnson was screaming with.
Speaker 8 (23:12):
A juggular coming out of his neck. He got us all.
Speaker 12 (23:15):
Fired up, and maybe Bears fan should still feel that
way up. First on going for two, the Bears have
a big game against the Commanders, which they have some
recent history with, on Monday Night. It's a rematch between
last year's top two draft picks. There's a hell Mary
involved in the situation. It's all very complicated. The Bears
head coach Ben Johnson was asked of his evaluation of
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his quarterback Caleb Williams from last year's draft process.
Speaker 14 (23:40):
I thought it was a really strong class coming out.
It's probably one of the stronger in recent history.
Speaker 5 (23:45):
You know.
Speaker 14 (23:46):
Caleb obviously felt highly about him.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
You know.
Speaker 14 (23:50):
That part of the reason why I wanted to come here,
you know, and I haven't been disappointed with him whatsoever.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
He continues to get better.
Speaker 14 (23:59):
Lead all our arm strength, the ability extend.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
Plays all right.
Speaker 12 (24:05):
So our friend Seth Rollins probably summarized the best for
Bears fans. It feels great, feel great about the Bears
because we haven't seen them play in about two weeks time.
MANSI they're coming off a buye. They're fresh, and hopefully
that makes them feel great things going against the Commanders
in which they lost on a hill Mary last year.
Speaker 8 (24:19):
What do you want?
Speaker 12 (24:20):
What do you think of Chicago right now as they're
trying to build on their two game win streak.
Speaker 15 (24:23):
Well, I think they're building, but I also hope that
they build more on on DJ Moore. I think the
offense for the Chicago Bears has been just Caleb and
Romodunze as of late.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
But DJ Moore is one of those gadgets.
Speaker 15 (24:37):
You see Ben Johnson using him as a running back,
you see him using him as a gadget guy. But
DJ Moore is like a Percy Harvin like he can
do all of those things and still run deep outs.
That's the thing that differentiates DJ Moore from a lot
of these gadget like skilled position players, and I think
to be able to utilize him more, it's going to
open up more things.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
In the run game.
Speaker 15 (24:58):
It's going to more open up more things in the
passing game with Romodunze, and you know coax and levelin
and comp. But getting number two going you signed, you
traded for him for a reason.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
You got him there.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
Utilize his skill set. He has a very special skill set.
He's almost just as fast. I think.
Speaker 15 (25:15):
Percy Harvey ran a four to four to one, and
he ran a four to four to two. Dj Moore
run a four to four to two. They're almost identical.
So start using him in that way, and I think
it'll open up things more in the office for them.
Speaker 16 (25:25):
As a guy who has DJ Moore in his fantasy team,
I definitely want to see that. But what I want
to see overall, if I'm the Bears, if I'm Ben Jonson,
is a running game, and not just with Caleb Williams
scrambling and doing things at the quarterback.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
I want my running backs.
Speaker 16 (25:37):
To get involved to the point where there's now talk of.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
Like do they have to trade for a running back?
Speaker 16 (25:43):
Barry Sanders wouldn't be able to get out of some
of this stuff here.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
As a matter of fact, our researcher Lawan helped.
Speaker 4 (25:49):
Me on this.
Speaker 16 (25:49):
He said, Kyle Manungat, Yeah, he's good. Had seventeen carries
on the season. He has a total of six yards
before contact. That's an average of not a lot of
yards before he's got somebody in his face.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
You got to help these guys out.
Speaker 16 (26:07):
It's not about what they're not doing, and Ben Johnson
has said this, it's not about that.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
It's about the whole operation. So you had a week
three set here.
Speaker 16 (26:13):
I want to see this running game with these running
backs be more effective because we think of like offensive
coordinators that are geniuses.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
Oh, they create so much through the air.
Speaker 16 (26:20):
The running game is a big part of what Ben
Johnson wants to do.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
Yeah, there was a.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
Parade in Chicago because they landed Joe Toney in the offseason.
Everyone thought they could run for two hunred dards a game.
And they can't get out of the backfield. Their offensive
line and their defensive line are really flawed. But this
game is really really interesting from a psychological perspective. Not
only have we not seen the Bears for a couple
weeks in a row. You go up against the Commanders
and this is going to be all over the broadcast,
as it should last year. It's Caleb versus Jayden, and
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it's the hail Mary. It's the hail Mary that ends
the Bears game. It's much more important than just this
one play which we are showing. Let me give you
a little context here. At this point, the Bears are
four and two, like they're good and they're winning, and
then this play happens. It's not just that they lost
this game, guys. This set off a ten game losing streak.
This was lost one of At the end of that
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ten game losing streak, the offensive coordinator.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
Had been fired. The head coach had been fired.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
The Bears almost never firehead coaches in the middle of
the season.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
They were left no choice not to mention. Caleb was
thrown into the garbage dump.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
Jaden was handed the keys to the league as the
future of the sport. It all went completely different ways.
Caleb knows that all the Bears.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
Are aware of that.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
On a personal note, last year, I sat with Caleb
in the middle of his rookie year.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
I did an interview with him.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
He was very cool, he was very loose, He's a rookie,
but I thought he was very giving in the interview.
There was one question, one question which he noticeably tightened
up and went to cliche and it was me simply saying,
have you gotten a load of what Jaden's doing over
in Washington? And he completely changed his facial expression changed.
He went to it, Yeah, you know, he's a good
competitor and it will be a great challenge and I
wish him the best.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
And that is not him. I think he is very
aware of the comparisons.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
I think he's very aware of the loss that he
suffered to him the draft class comparisons always I think
is extremely competitive him. I don't think he wants to
come out and go zero to two against him. I
don't think he wants to come out and say this
guy should have been drafted over me in Chicago.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
Blew it again.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
This is to get it.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
Taking Trubisky over Mahomes all over again. Caleb Williams has
played very well this year, not okay, not decent, very well,
and they're two and two.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
This is a massive game. It's also coming off the buy.
Ben Johnson should be ready for this game.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
He should be in his bag, as they say, he
should be sharp. He should have everything planned. The Commanders
are not coming off but bye, they've not had a
two weeks rest. The Bears are rested, totally ready, and
returning to the scene of a terrible crime that happened
to them on their watch. I'm not even getting into
the Ramandre Stevenson factor. Who's talking this week about it
still hurts the way that game ended for me. Looking
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in the crowd, there's a lot going on emotionally for
the Bears. Physically, I think they're there emotionally, it's going
to be fascinating to see if they can handle it.
Speaker 12 (28:56):
Kyle, real quick, our research rel quand just email me this.
Can you rate this on the pettiness scale? The Commanders
are going back to the battle black uniforms in this
week six rematch, which is the same jerseys that they
wore in which they won that game on the hail
Mary attempt? Are they just trying to put one to ten?
How petty is this by the Commanders?
Speaker 8 (29:14):
And do you love it?
Speaker 2 (29:14):
Oh? I definitely love it. And it's high.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
I imagine there are several home games which they could
have worn that one, same uniforms, same opponents. You know what,
the Bears should wear the same thame kit too. Don't
go white pants, go right back to it. Play into it,
because that's all nonsense. Lean into it and undo that
wrong that happened to you. By the way, they played
it really well. It was just a lucky bounce.
Speaker 16 (29:35):
You're mister s FedExField JumboTron guy.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
Sure are you running this play in the pre game?
Speaker 13 (29:42):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (29:43):
Oh yeah you are. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
I think run over, absolutely absolutely, I think you run
it over.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
They were in the same uniforms. You do all the
same things.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
Why not.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
This is a terrible moment for the Bears.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
It was probably the best moment of dan Quinn's tenure
there at the beginning until they were in the playofs.
Look at Kleb, Yeah, that game won a couple of
different times, kind of just gave it cut away right
before the eger flues, like what that Well, now it's
coaching Dallas's defense, So to do with that what you will?
Speaker 12 (30:07):
Well, Like we said, one of the most electric moments
for a lot of the people on the Commander's staff
and that quarterback Sam could be said maybe for the
Jaguars staff and their quarterback after last weekend, Trevor Lawrence's
game winning touchdown against the Chiefs was quite the experience
for Jaguars fans in the stands who witnessed what went
down on Monday night's game against Kansas City.
Speaker 8 (30:27):
Take a listen, for all you football.
Speaker 12 (30:39):
Fans out there at this table who watched the show,
or you who have played in this game, Anti, do
you have a play that takes you on that type
of emotional roller coaster The way that that guy was
feeling about Trevor Lawrence on Monday night, That.
Speaker 15 (30:52):
Was a Disney roller coaster Compared to what I went
through and the rest of my teammates went through on
January fourteenth, twenty eighteen, in a divisional playoff game against
the Minnesota Vikings that a lot of people know about.
There's ten second stuff in the game. Case Keenum drops
back and he hits to Fon Diggs on a corner route,
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and this closes out the game. Not only was that
wasn't the end of the roller coaster though, Jamie, that
wasn't the end why because after this play, we all
proceeded to come across the field, shake hands, and get
into the locker room. While we're sitting in the locker room,
the referee comes into the locker room and tells us
that we have to run back out for the extra point.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
I remember this game, yes, Kyle, I remember this thing
very vividly.
Speaker 15 (31:38):
And so unfortunately, the touchdown that Stefon Dick scored in.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
Is opposite of the tunnel we ran out of. So
we had to run out of the stadium, run out of.
Speaker 15 (31:47):
Our locker room, run across the field to Case Keenum,
and the entire stadium during the skull chant just for
Case Kingdom to kneel the ball, and we have to
run back into the locker room. So you're talking about
a roller coaster that was my roller coaster. That was
the roller coaster for all of my teammates. And it's
something that I can't get over.
Speaker 16 (32:05):
Marcus Williams a fantastic player. Bad moment overcame. It has
had a fantastic career.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
Well take me in the locker room there on the bus.
What are you guys saying to him at that point.
Speaker 15 (32:15):
Yeah, there's a lot of crying on Marcus Williams point.
And there's been a lot of people that have done
this for teammates that a lot of people have come
to the rescue, and we did it. It was a
heartbreaking moment for all of us. And then the very
next year we have the no call PI against the Rams.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
Oh you know, it just kept stacking up for us.
It sucks. But Nick cal Ruby Coleman, Yeah, yeah, thanks,
thanks guys.
Speaker 15 (32:39):
Yeah, so for two years in a row we had
those kind of rollercoasters by those special moments for sure, guys.
Speaker 16 (32:44):
For some hey, it gave you, It gave you stories
to tell here on the air, so you know, keep
telling Gary Type.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
For me, it is the Miles Jack play.
Speaker 16 (32:54):
It was just a week after that play that you
were talking about January twenty first, twenty eighteen, the AFT
Championship game, Jaguars Patriots. Look at the I forget you
got the beginning part of this play.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
Here, you got the little throwback happening here. Uh huh,
And you're watching this.
Speaker 16 (33:10):
And now this is in the middle of like, are
the Patriots gonna come back and make this a game
and win this game?
Speaker 2 (33:14):
Like we know they're going to do.
Speaker 16 (33:16):
This play happens. You really can't like live. It didn't
even look like a fumble. Then all of a sudden,
he's getting up. You see the way he's reacting. You go, William,
it had to it like he definitely knew that that
was a fumble. He also definitely knew in the moment
that he hadn't been touched. So then you go back
and you watch the replan, it's.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
Like, wait a minute, was it a fumble? Was he touched?
Did they have possession of the ball the ball carrier
that Dan Lewis.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
Firs should been, Yeah, it should have been a Jaguars tosh.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
This should have been a Jaguars touchdown.
Speaker 16 (33:42):
It would have been twenty seven to ten because the
Patriots have come back with that. I guess possibly, but
at that point you're thinking game's over if this is
called correctly.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
And look, I'm in the business now.
Speaker 16 (33:53):
I don't root for a team, but there's something called
Patriots fatigue. That was a real thing with media covering
the Super Bowl every single year, and you're going, wait
a second, this could be the Jaguars in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
That might be fun.
Speaker 16 (34:07):
Blake flipping Bortal versus in the Super Bowl, that might
be fresh.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
And fun, and then all of a sudden, the Patriots.
That's like, okay, cover Patrios play.
Speaker 12 (34:19):
It kind of reminds me of what we were talking
yesterday about guys dropping.
Speaker 8 (34:23):
The ball at the goal line.
Speaker 12 (34:24):
Like, if anything, it shows us that if a play
like that goes down and you even have an inkling
in your head that you may have may or may
not have been touched if it was or was not
a fumble, just run all the way to the end zone.
I don't care if it's eighty two yards in the
opposite direction. It's like running through first base even though
it was a drop third strike, Like, you just go
and commit, because what if they had eventually said, you're right,
that was a fumble and Miles Jack just spiked the
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ball and ended the play, like, just pick up the ball.
If you have any thought that you should have been touched,
just finished the play and go for six.
Speaker 15 (34:51):
I feel let's do a great job now at letting
things go. Yeah the play, Yeah, that one, they blew
the whistle.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
You gotta let it go. They blew the whistle, and
that's now their coach.
Speaker 3 (35:01):
Let it go.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
Then you can reverse it.
Speaker 3 (35:03):
But I have.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
If you've got Patriots fatigue still, I have the cure
for it. Don't roll it.
Speaker 3 (35:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
There are two plays in the modern NFL that make
me laugh out loud every single time. The first one
is Sean Taylor hitting and Brian Mormon and the Pro Bowl.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
It's my favorite play in history.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
The second one is this Las Vegas twenty twenty two
Patriots Raiders. This is the most hilarious, unneest, go ahead,
roll it unnecessary thing I've ever seen.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
End of the game, Mac.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
Jones Patriots guys, the game is tied.
Speaker 2 (35:32):
They don't want to go to overtime.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
So you see Remondre He's gonna eventually laddle to Jacoby Myers,
who decides.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
To throw it back to Mac.
Speaker 1 (35:39):
Jonesph no Chaydler Jones stiff arms mac Jones, and the
game is over. Chaandler Jones, the ex Patriot guys.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
This play has his own Wikipedia page. It's called the
Lunatic Lateral.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
And not imagine what a terrible decision this was by
Jacoby Myers, who I totally respect. Again, if you're down three,
you're down one, give it a try. Who cares you're
gonna lose the game?
Speaker 2 (36:04):
The game is tied, go to overtime. What are you
doing to Kobe? He throws it across the field.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
Jones Jones, It's like, I'll take it. Mac Jones, the
worst to tackle attempt of all times, and the game
is over. The Patriots, who are over five hundred at
that time, would go on to miss the playoffs. Mac Jones'
career would spile out of control. And God bless him,
he's doing great with San Francisco. Now look at Belichick.
It's it's probably the worst loss in the last fifty years.
That last week we saw the Titans Cardinals.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
That's worse.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
That's worse than the guy dropping the ball and all that,
because all you had to do is just go down,
go to overtime, you probably win.
Speaker 2 (36:37):
It's the Raiders, I'm sure they'll lose.
Speaker 1 (36:39):
You throw it back, Joe. It's just some lunatic lateral.
I laugh every single time I see it. You may
be right, that is I say this every year. In
that free agency, usually a.
Speaker 16 (36:48):
Guy will sign with a team that he killed the
year before, Like.
Speaker 2 (36:51):
We want that guy on this seat. Jacobe Meyers. The
sight is the opposite of that. He didn't sign with
the Raiders. Amazing good football,