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July 12, 2025 • 13 mins

A selection of the best Kyle Brandt cuts from the Week of July 11th:

  • The Glow up of Caleb Williams
  • Is Kirk Cousins still a QB1?
  • Raiders Outlook
  • College Football has changed
  • The 3-course NFL meal
  • The most important people in the NFC East
  • Bring back this legend for one game

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Speaker 1 (00:04):
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
Caleb first day, I only Caleb. I think this is
the year. It's year two. Let's go personal story. I
ran into Caleb a couple of weeks ago and I
had a very very very nice conversation, nothing long, but
just my takeaway from how does he come off in
a social setting, Very very solid, very confident, very calm,

(00:44):
looks you right in the eye. I'm making that sort
of entry level conversation about, Oh, I'm from the North
suburb of Chicago, where you live and work?

Speaker 3 (00:53):
You know, where do you like to go out and meet?
What are the restaurants? He's like, No, I don't go out.
I don't go out to eat. I don't do anything.
I'm always home.

Speaker 2 (00:59):
I'm like, Caleb, I like that about you, dude. He
told me that Dune two is his favorite movie.

Speaker 3 (01:04):
There are certain.

Speaker 2 (01:05):
People that have looked at him as the title character
in that movie, as this messiah for the bears.

Speaker 3 (01:10):
He just laughs that off. He comes off.

Speaker 2 (01:13):
Very solid, very likable. Is that going to help him
on third and twelve against the Vikings?

Speaker 3 (01:18):
Of course not. But I'll tell you this. He ended his.

Speaker 2 (01:21):
Rookie year by doing what Bears quarterbacks do not do,
which is going to lambeau Field and winning the game.

Speaker 3 (01:28):
That was a really big deal.

Speaker 2 (01:30):
Nobody really cared about at the end of the season
because the Bears were relevant. They lost ten games in
a row. Bears fans did, Packers fans did. The Bears
don't go to that building and win. He is currently
undefeated as a Bears quarterback again lambeau Field, and I
know he's looking to go to and O next year.
I think Caleb has a year with all the drama
that happened and the rug was pulled out underneath him
and they drafted Penix. Cousins was still given so many

(01:52):
opportunities to go out there. He started after recovering his achilles.
He did not play for two or three games. I
got yanked. He was out there for months last year.
He did not play well, He did not play up
to his standards, He did not play up to anybody's
stay and eventually they pulled them and they should have
pulled them. So the injustice wasn't up to and including
the fact that.

Speaker 3 (02:11):
They never gave him a chance.

Speaker 2 (02:12):
They gave him a chance, but understand this if the
Falcons had their druthers, Kirk Cousins would never play another.

Speaker 3 (02:19):
Down for them. They don't want that to happen.

Speaker 2 (02:21):
They want Michael Pennix to blow up and become a star,
and Kirk Cousins is an afterthought and we never talk
about him in the show again in a Falcons uniform.

Speaker 3 (02:28):
That's how this thing is supposed to go.

Speaker 2 (02:30):
If kirk Cousins is playing for the Falcons this year
or next year.

Speaker 3 (02:34):
Something went wrong. Pennix either doesn't have it or it
gets hurt.

Speaker 2 (02:37):
We don't want to see kirk Cousins on the Falcons anymore.
Nobody does unless you're with Kirk Cousins. So maybe there
is some sort of trade. Maybe there's no destination.

Speaker 3 (02:46):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (02:46):
He has a massive contract, He has his whole family
set up there in Atlanta.

Speaker 3 (02:51):
It feels like this may be the last stop I know.

Speaker 2 (02:53):
There was talk about, well, he's going to go to Cleveland,
He's gonna go to Pittsburgh.

Speaker 3 (02:57):
I don't think.

Speaker 2 (02:57):
So do yourself a favor and watch this Netflix show
and watch the family roots and the connection.

Speaker 3 (03:02):
I'm gonna say snark side.

Speaker 2 (03:05):
I find myself very charmed by watching the cousin's kids.
His wife Julie in the stands explaining football to the
little kid is adorable.

Speaker 3 (03:12):
It is relatable. It's very funny how she does it.
I just don't see them.

Speaker 2 (03:17):
Saying, you know what, let's pack up again so we
can have a shot at starting somewhere else where.

Speaker 3 (03:22):
Let's be honest. They're going to replace us immediately there too.
I think this feels like the last stop.

Speaker 2 (03:27):
And if the Falcons have their choice, he will not
play for them anymore.

Speaker 3 (03:30):
He'll sit on the bench and earn his money.

Speaker 2 (03:32):
I'm feeling what Max Chrisby is saying here, and you
can really feel it in his mind and his words
that look at what he's been through. Okay, he comes
out of this small school, he gets into the league,
and the Raiders coaches, you know, John Gruden was there.
That ends in infamy. Josh McDaniels was terrible. It didn't
work out at all. Antonio Pierce, they tried something, it
really didn't work. And now you have an adult in

(03:56):
the room, the culture.

Speaker 3 (03:57):
Yes, I don't know how many games Pete Carroll's going
to win.

Speaker 2 (04:00):
I know that the Raiders are going to be a
good professional product.

Speaker 3 (04:04):
I know that that's a low bar, but often they're not.

Speaker 2 (04:07):
Often they're not. So they have a guy who knows
how to put a product on the field. They have
a quarterback in Gino who knows how to put an
offense on the field. Like, the Raiders are going to be,
at the very very worst respectable this year. They're not
going to embarrass themselves. They're not going to get blown out.
I don't see this team going five and twelve or
something like that. It's just the problem of like, we

(04:29):
all like the Raiders. It's a good story. We all
like the Chiefs, we all like the Chargers, we're all
excited about the Broncos. It's a tough time if you
take these Raiders and you want to drop them into
the I don't know, let's say the NFC South or
the AFC South, different conversation. But I like the fact
that the Raiders are going to matter in their own
way this year. I think going to matter in December.
I'm not ready to say that yet. It's a brand

(04:50):
new deal there and there's a lot of new pieces,
and I wish the Raiders would be great. I think
they'll be respectable, and I hope that that's enough well.
Salary cap is one of my favorite things that the
NFL does. I absolutely adore it. I love it. It is
the word of quality. It is why you have teams.
I've seen the Carolina Panthers in the Super Bowl before,
I've seen a name any team. It's not just every

(05:12):
single year Cowboys and Giants, and like you know, we
mentioned Baseball. Look last year's the Yankees versus Dodgers.

Speaker 3 (05:19):
I think it sucks. I don't like it.

Speaker 2 (05:20):
I love that we have the salary cap, and I
do think it makes it fair. I don't think it's
a terrible idea from Dion. But at the roots of it,
it was not too long ago. It was about five
years ago. We were in this ridiculous world that we
all sort of just stomached, where Johnny Menzel could not
accept one thousand dollars to sign some autographs, and Terrelle
Pryor would be suspended for getting some tattoos, and the

(05:44):
Livy Duns of the world could not sell yoga pants.
They could not or they would be suspended. And everyone said,
we should fix that. It's ridiculous, and it was, and
they did fix it. And there's a lot of me
that wishes it could have just stopped there where name
image like is great, do whatever you want, make millions
of dollars and all that stuff you should, but this straight.

(06:05):
I'm gonna go here for half a million, but now
I'm gonna go here for six hundred thousand.

Speaker 3 (06:08):
And to Dion's point, I'm not even that good of
a player.

Speaker 2 (06:11):
I'm just a wash in this tidal wave of money
and one upmanship. I think it is a full Pandora's
box that is a huge turnoff, and I think is
intimidating for fans and off putting maybe for parents. And
I just I wish it could have stopped at yoga
pants and free tattoos.

Speaker 3 (06:27):
And now I don't know when it ever will. Oysters,
I love them.

Speaker 2 (06:31):
They're not for everybody, rich, fancy, intoxicating, not for everybody.

Speaker 3 (06:37):
Oysters are Steffan Diggs. I'm a big fan of them.
Not everyone is. They're a little bit polarizing.

Speaker 2 (06:43):
If you want to take it to the place where
you say, you know they're good out on a boat, fine,
I'm not doing that. But there's a lot of fixings
with it, and there's some people who can't handle the oysters.
They like, maybe three of them. They order the half
dozen the full does and they're like, that's too much.
I need to get out of this plate of oysters.
It's expensive, it's exotic among foods.

Speaker 3 (07:03):
It's kind of fashionable.

Speaker 2 (07:04):
I don't know what all that green crap is all
over the thoist oysters, but I like just a little lemon,
maybe some horse rash for some spice.

Speaker 3 (07:11):
I like oysters. You may not. I like Stefan Diggs.
You may not.

Speaker 2 (07:16):
And you can get some really good oysters in New England,
trust me, and I think you will this fall as well.

Speaker 3 (07:20):
Guys.

Speaker 2 (07:21):
I can't think of the more ostentatious order in any
restaurant than the sizzling faheita platter. It's just so much
noise and so much look at me, and there's a
brass band that comes out and it's fire and it's noise.

Speaker 3 (07:34):
Sorry, I gotta do this.

Speaker 2 (07:35):
Dak Prescott's sism fitas a lot of noise, a lot
of attention, a lot of volume. Everyone's always looking and
when you get down to.

Speaker 3 (07:45):
It, are the sism fajitas that special. Don't gonna be wrong.
They're good.

Speaker 2 (07:50):
It's it's low calorie, it's protein, but Inevitably there's kind
of these greasy peppers and like onion strings that are
all kind of intertwined with the meat. The only meat
is the third of it, and like in the end,
it leaves you feeling.

Speaker 3 (08:02):
A little dissatisfied.

Speaker 2 (08:04):
At the end of the meal, there's always this risk
where the server says, please don't touch. Sometimes the pan
has that like oven holder over the handle.

Speaker 3 (08:13):
It's a lot of experience. You can't just get a
burger at steak. I would say that.

Speaker 2 (08:17):
Dak Prescott right now in his career is.

Speaker 3 (08:19):
The cisling paheta platter.

Speaker 2 (08:21):
Well, my dessert is something called Dippin' dots, a dessert
that I have long hated and had beef with because Dippin'
Dots and the people there had the audacity to come
out twenty twenty five years ago and call themselves the
ice cream of the future. We are now in that
future that they proclaimed to be the naming the ice
cream of And I don't see people walking around with Dippin'

(08:43):
dots no more than I see them on hoverboards. So
you know what Dippin' dots is. Trevor Lawrence kind of waiting, buddy.
We're kind of waiting. It's a few years in. We
were promised great things. You're a good guy and a
good leader, and you got a new coach and all
kinds of talent. But I've been waiting for dippin' dots.

Speaker 3 (09:01):
My entire life.

Speaker 2 (09:03):
I think will be America's sport of note before Dippin'
dots are the ice cream of the present. I'm waiting
for Trevor Lawrence to have that. I am now arrived
season where I'm oh, I don't know, like a second
team All Pro, where I'm winning playoff games where I'm
throwing for five thousand yards.

Speaker 3 (09:20):
I'm winning. I'm throwing at Travis Hunter. I'm doing this.
I'm doing that.

Speaker 2 (09:22):
Until then, Dippin' dots, Trevor Lawrence, I hate to do
it and.

Speaker 3 (09:27):
Prove me wrong.

Speaker 2 (09:29):
Most interesting people anybody GMS coaches players in the NFC East,
I'm going to start. I'm going to start with the
name that everybody knows, and you won't believe I only
have him at five. I have Saquon Barkley at number five.
You know what's interesting about Saquon Barkley. He's really trying
to defy history right now, and if you look at
the two thousand yard rushers the following season.

Speaker 3 (09:50):
The most anybody has had is.

Speaker 2 (09:51):
Barry Sanders and almost a six to seven hundred yard
drop off.

Speaker 3 (09:55):
It happens everybody is at the Church of Saquon.

Speaker 2 (09:58):
He's the most gifted runners ever, one of the best
seasons ever. Everything about NFL history says he's not going
to be nearly as productive as he was this year.
That's just a fact. Maybe he defies it. I think
that's fascinating to watch Number four. See this is why
this list is fun. I go from Saquan to Adam Peters.
This is the general manager of the Washington Commanders, a

(10:19):
guy who is relatively new, who has been a lot
rare experienced, but never really been a GM before.

Speaker 3 (10:25):
He's got some things on his plate.

Speaker 2 (10:26):
Now we have this Terry McLaurin situation, that is this
flying the ointment of this wonderful time since Shane Daniels
has shown up. I also think it's interesting that Adam
Peters has a background with San Francisco, who had maybe
a similar situation with Deebo. Samuel ended up paying him
a lot of money, it ended up not being the
best investment, and now he is actually back in Washington,
So there's all kinds of symmetry. Watch Adam Peters, especially

(10:46):
over the next month. Number Three Jackson Dart rookie quarterback
New York Giants. When are we going to see this guy?
When are we gonna see him? Where is he on
the depth chart? He's got Russ, He's got Jamis. At
what point does Jackson Dart start? I was thinking we're
gonna talk a little bit about the Falcons this year
because Kirk Cousins is on the Netflix show and we

(11:07):
had Michael Pennix just sitting there and sitting there, and
Cousins wasn't playing well and the Falcons were losing. They
finally just finally pulled them late in the season. Did
they do the same with Dart or is it one
of the veterans all the way? Number two is very simple.
I have Jaydeon Daniels number two. I've never seen a
rookie season like that from any quarterback.

Speaker 3 (11:24):
And I was very young.

Speaker 2 (11:25):
When Marino was there, and there's been some other guys
who have been great, never so effortless. Can he really
run that back? I saw Cam Newton was talking recently,
another guy who had a prolific rookie season about Robert
Griffin third and how he was amazing for the same
franchise as a rookie they ended up getting injured.

Speaker 3 (11:42):
I think Argi three's.

Speaker 2 (11:43):
Playing style has a lot to do with that, and
how Mike Shanahan used him and got him injured. I
don't think Jade Daniels is that kind of realm, but
I'd love to see what do you do for an encore?
Is there a drop off or is that just the
beginning of that experience? And Number one, the most interesting
person I have in the NFC East. It's hard to
fit his name is name is Brian Schottenheimer, the head
coach of the Dallas Cowboys, who were just talking about earlier.

(12:05):
There's all this talk about a breath of fresh air
in Dallas. This is a guy who has been around
for years, nay decades. I was just watching the twenty
ten divisional game between the Jets and the Patriots that
can't wait Bart Scott game. Brian Schottenneimer was the offensive
coordinator for Rex Ryan there.

Speaker 3 (12:21):
That was fifteen years ago. He has been around. He
has finally been.

Speaker 2 (12:26):
Given his shot, and he's got a backwards advisor and
they're playing ping pong and they're having team dinners and
everybody seems to really like it. Will they really like
it in December and January? I'm team Schottenheimer. I like
the vibe that he's bringing. But the Dallas Cowboys coach
brand new at this stage of his life, a first
time head coach.

Speaker 3 (12:45):
Very interesting. That is my list.

Speaker 2 (12:47):
Guy's sako on Adam Peters, Jackson, Dark Jay and Daniels
and number one Brian Shottenheimer.

Speaker 3 (12:52):
What athlete do I want to come back?

Speaker 2 (12:54):
Michael Jordan right now at sixty two years old, get
back in their goat, because me as a basketball fan,
when I'm watching the Eastern Conference final, be Pacers versus Nicks,
two pathetic franchises that were children of Michael Jordan for
his entire career, who always thought we're gonna beat him
this year and never did, Who would take him new

(13:16):
game seven and said this is the year, It never
was the year. I just imagine him on a yacht
with a tequila and a cigar at sixty two years old,
laughing that the Nixon Pacers actually think they're going to
do anything of consequence in the finals or semi finals.

Speaker 3 (13:30):
Which they didn't.

Speaker 2 (13:31):
I want them to come out at sixty two and
just still slap them around seventy two eighty two. As
long as he has oxygen in his lungs, the Nixon
pacers will.

Speaker 3 (13:40):
Never amount to anything. And that's all. I don't want
to see him.

Speaker 1 (13:50):
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