October 9, 2025 • 32 mins
Hour One of the Good Morning Football Podcast begins with hosts Jamie Erdahl, Kyle Brandt, Manti Te’o, and Mike Garafolo previewing Giants-Eagles - what are you watching for in this matchup? Will Chicago Bears get their revenge against the Washington Commanders after their dramatic loss last season?
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
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Speaker 2 (00:11):
Hey everybody, this is Good Morning Football, presented by Old
Trapper Beef Jerkey. It's Thursday, October ninth, Week five is
upon us. Jamie at Allmance Ieo here in La, Mike
Garrafolo and Kyle Brandt in New York.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Many Mike call Thursday night matchups.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Historic NFC East rivals. I call it the Mike Garrifolo
beat writer game.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
It is the matchup.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
I assume that Mike Garrifolo has spent many a time
in many a days. That practice might be the Byeline reads.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
I spend a lot of time in my career. This
is where I cut my teeth. What's up, Mike T?
How are you?
Speaker 4 (00:40):
And guess what, Jamie, I'll be there tonight.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Yeah stadium, you boy, you boy, let's go. Mich will
be there. I'll be on the couch and it'll be fantastic.
We'll love it. We'll talk about it all tomorrow, but
pert let's preview it today as well as the entire slate.
Speaker 5 (00:56):
It's Good Morning Football, Rock and Roll.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Welcome to Good Morning Football, presented by Old Trapper. Yeah
that's right, everybody, GMFB, Jamie Manti, Mike g and Kyle Hope.
Everybody's having a great Thursday ahead of Thursday Night Football.
We have trivia during this show, which is always a
grand old time and it has a lot to do
with some of the historic matchups for the week ahead
of week six. Now, Ian Rappaport, that is where we begin.
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Thursday Night Football is upon us. It's Eagles, Giants, NFC East.
It looks great, however, bit of a stumble for both
teams after last weekend. So what are we keeping an
eye on before kickoff on a Thursday night.
Speaker 6 (01:47):
Well, we'll start with some of the injuries that we
are watching. Some of the injuries we already know the
outcome of, but we'll start with one that we do not.
Jalen Carter, you start defensive tackle for the Philadelphia Eagles,
who of course became a national headline earlier this season
with a spinning incidents the Cowboys, showing me a big
enough name in his own right just because of his play.
He's officially questionable with a heel injury.
Speaker 7 (02:10):
My understanding is this is not a major injury.
Speaker 6 (02:12):
Certainly, there is a chance, a very real chance that
he plays tonight.
Speaker 7 (02:16):
However, we have seen over the.
Speaker 6 (02:18):
Last several years as player deals with a lower body
injury about to head on the MetLife turf. Maybe they're
a little more cautious than all this, so we'll reserve
judgment on this one until later. But either way, not
a significant injury or Jalen Carter for sa Kwon Barkley
in the ultimate revenge Game, much more so than Mike
Garrifola is the revenge game. This is a real revenge game.
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He's been dealing with a knee injury, reported some soreness
after last week's game. He is now off the injury
report and good to go when not a participated in
Monday and upgraded Tuesday, good to go on Wednesday, but
obviously we will watch for any effects of that knee
injury today.
Speaker 7 (02:55):
And then Darius Slayton, one of the.
Speaker 6 (02:57):
Giants receivers, He is officially out with a hamstring injury,
not considered to be a major injury, but just really
too quick of a turnaround forty.
Speaker 7 (03:05):
Short week, so he is not going to play.
Speaker 6 (03:07):
Obviously, maleague neighbors he is dealing with still with the
Aco and the menis because he of course is out
for the season awaiting surgery, so the Giants receiving core
for new quarterback Jackson Dart is already pretty shorthanded.
Speaker 7 (03:21):
The loss of Darius Slayton hurts there as well.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Speaking of injury reports, rap sheet, how is one supposed
to break news or injury information with a really character
looking band aid on your thumb?
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Are you okay man? What's the injury report there?
Speaker 1 (03:34):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (03:35):
As a Mike reporter on the inside is yesterday I
sliced my thumb cooking dinner.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
For the boys.
Speaker 7 (03:40):
I can't button anything.
Speaker 6 (03:41):
My left button's not done because I can't do it
because my thumb doesn't work.
Speaker 7 (03:46):
It is the only band aids I have.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
We have kids band aids in the house, Marmaduke.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
So wow, pledgere Kurt, the information still got out there, Kyle,
that's honorable.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
Yeah, that.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
Is one of the crucial But that's that's a lost art.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
You're making. You're making a meal for your children. You're
not just you know, uber reading door dashing. You're not
faith like you're actually cooking. I respect it. That's the
red badge of courage. It's fine, go ahead through that's bad.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
I think. Thanks Raps Shet appreciate you.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
I think there was a shot actually of Howie Roseman
in the booth the other day.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
You're the Eagles game doing like.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
The four finger text right here, so like that is
also a lostar rap sheet. You're gonna have to get
into that as well. It's not weird sometimes it's just
the most efficient way. Speaking of the Eagles, We're going
to look ahead at this game for Thursday night Eagles Giants.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
It's in New York.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Let's hear though from the Eagles quarterback Jalen Herds and
their head coach Nick Sirianni on the Hurts AJ Brown
Saquon Barkley meeting that went down and what we want
to learn from it.
Speaker 8 (04:45):
It's just just talking about the collective, talking about taking
ownership for what we can and talking about how we
move forward as a team so we continue to find
ways to win games. Why why just really just teammates
being teammates.
Speaker 9 (04:58):
When the captains on your team and the leaders of
your football team are doing that, you know, and just
focusing on how we get better and take the next steps,
you know that that that trickles down to everybody. That's
my theory with coaches that's my theory with UH with
the leaders of your football team. So everyone just you know,
this isn't all that different than you know last year
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going through these things as well. You buckle down, you
find solutions, you find answers to the to the problems,
and you know, you get and you work yourself to
get better from that.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
That's what it's about.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
I feel like we're really flirting with players only meeting
that goes down in locker rooms all the time. Now,
this is only a handful of the players in this conversation.
Big time NFC s matchup tonight, storylines all over the place.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
Mike Garrilfolo.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Knowing both these organizations as well as you do, you
anticipate to be on hand tonight.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
What else are you looking for?
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Perhaps you want to dive more into this conversation that
we just heard about within the Eagles locker room.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
Jamie Low hanging fruit gets a bad rap, But let
me tell you something. It's the sweetest because it's the ripest.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
So give me a bight of that back way. I'm
looking at a J.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
Brown, I'm looking at Jalen Hurts, and I want to
see this connection because if it doesn't happen tonight. I
don't know when it's going to happen. You know, later
in the program, Kyle's going to take you inside that
player's only meeting. I sort of felt like I was
in it when I was reading our research packet.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
According to the FF, Jalen.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
Hurts is the third highest rate of uncatchable passes thrown
well not under pressure. So you know AJ saying, tell
me a catchable pass, man well, and then Jalen saying. However,
according to the Next Gen Stats, the Eagles have the
second lowest yards of separation at the pass in the
NFL in twenty twenty five, three point one yards, ahead
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of only the Ravens. So it's like, that's what's going
on here between the two of them. And I know
there's been this notion of like zone coverage giving Jalen
Hurts fits. Nobody runs man coverage more than the New
York Giants, and they don't necessarily disguise it in a
lot of ways that other teams do.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
This is the game.
Speaker 4 (06:57):
This is the game for AJ Brown, for Jalen Hurts
to get their man coverage, their one on one matchups.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
AJ's old.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
Even when I'm covered I'm not covered.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
I'm open. This is the game. If it doesn't happen
tonight against.
Speaker 4 (07:09):
A familiar opponent, you've played well again, that you're gonna
get your matchup up. I'm a little worried as to
whether or not it's actually gonna happen this year.
Speaker 7 (07:18):
Mike G. Mike G.
Speaker 10 (07:20):
There are some a lot of frustrations coming out of
that camp, but there's a lot of anger coming out
of the other one with camp Scattawoo and how he
plays this game.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Last week against.
Speaker 10 (07:30):
The Saints, there are a lot of talks and clips
of how he's been playing, and a former teammate of mine,
Tomorrow Davis, had had some things to say about how
he just loves how this guy runs with a lot
of anger, and he was a Week one Angry Run
Scepter recipient and then we look to seeing more of
that coming this year. However, he is going against an
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Eagles defense that has Zach Bond, that has Jalen Carter
hopefully Cooper de jen Jahad Campbell. Like, there's a saying
that says everybody wants to be a gangster, into the
real gangster walks in to the room, We're gonna find out, guys,
if this rookie is really about that life.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
I really believe that he is. I really believe that
he's one of those.
Speaker 10 (08:13):
And it reminds me of those historical matches with Eddie
George and ray Lewis or Brian Urlacker on the bus
that I used to watch as a little kid, Like
this is gonna be those old school running down your throat.
I'm gonna meet you in the A gap, and there's
gonna be a lot of that this game because how
the New York Giants want to attack you is through
the run. So if I'm gonna be looking at anything,
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it's gonna be cam Scataboo against that Eagles defense and
all those characters on that defense, because you know the
defense is going to come to hit. They're gonna be
trying to be bullies, and we're gonna see who's gonna
bully the bully.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
We have a fun dichotme here on the show right
now where it's West coast, East coast and here everything's
going great out there with LA football. The Rams are
very good. Oh boohoo. The Chargers have lost to in
a row. There are football fans are in New York
would cut off a finger to only lose two in
a row. I understand, like it's it's a tough, tough spot,
but there is like tonight is like basically East Coast
football prom All right, it is the Eagles. They're coming
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to Jersey. Let me give you a little state of
the nation. What's going on here in New York City
is we do the show live here from Lower Manhattan.
First of all, the Yankees are dead. They're done. That
is sixteen straight years without a World Series. They were
never going to win that series. Toronto was better from
start to finish. It was never in doubt. The Mets'
even mentioned them. They've been dead for weeks. It feels
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like the Jets they're the worst team in the NFL.
Their fans are literally looking at draft profiles on October ninth.
There's also something going on here. You're going to see
tonight where it's like it's cold here. Now we've had
this crazy late summer. It's going to be in the
forties tonight, like the morale is just going down and down,
and all the trees are dead and the teams are dead.
New York Giants, Please, I'm asking nicely, can you show
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up tonight. Can you give us something? Can you give
us a product? Let's have some goodwill towards men and
women and no goodwill towards the Eagles. Here's the deal.
This is a nationally televised game in met life. If
this game goes poorly, if this game is a terrible loss,
it's pretty much it. There's not gonna be much conversation anymore.
You're gonna go to one in five. It's just kind
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of over. You play the Eagles in a couple of weeks.
If you lose tonight twenty seven to thirteen, no one's
gonna care about the one in a couple of weeks.
It's gonna be in the one o'clock window. It's going
to be totally irrelevant. This is an important night for you.
I know you only get to two and four if
you shock the world. Give it the investors, the fans,
a little taste of the products. You have, great rookies.
You've spent great capital on these rookies. They're all going
to be out there. They're all healthy, these young guys.
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Can you put on a show. Can you compete? Because
the Eagles right now, to use Mike's analogie they're right
for the picking. They got discord, they got dysfunction, They
don't have a lot of productivity. Can you not please
go out there when your fans, your team, your city,
your region needs you to put out a good product
for one bleep in time at Mett Life Stadium before
(10:57):
you go quietly in the night. This is the winner
go home game for the New York Giants, and please,
for the love of God, show up tonight. I don't
think it's too the.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
New York Liberty loss in the first round of the
WNBA Playoffs.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
Let their coach go.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
The Rangers have not won a preseason game yet, but
there is hope as the Knicks begin preseason action tonight
against the Timberwolves. So maybe let's see how that season goes.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
We hope for the best for.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
The New York media market in general and sports fans there.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
I tread lightly with my follow.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Up question, and I'm going to pay it right back
to Kyle, and I mentioned these words at the beginning
of the show Here we Go, which is the concept
of players only meetings. Now, I don't know where this
falls on your list, Kyle of annoying words or concepts
in football. I said it, and I was immediately reminded
of something that Saquon Barkley said yesterday.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
Which is no, no, no, no, no no, this is
not a player's only meeting. He actually said that that
implies that all hell's breaking loose.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
He told this DESPM and he said it wasn't all
that we're teammates, we're friends, We're just having conversations. I
don't know if that's someone who's trying to back out
of like the nobody panic situation. But Kyle, when you
hear that three players have to triangulate and somebody has
to play intermediary between two of the guys on the team,
and knowing Saquan's personality, how does the news of this.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
Make you feel?
Speaker 1 (12:11):
Well, saquons smart because players only meeting is such a
loaded phrase. Now you hear that and you're like, you're screwed.
Players only meeting comes right before Cabo, like it is
right above burying the football from a bad loss in
one of the terrible smoke signals that we are cooked.
So he's like, no, no, no, no, no, no, players only meeting,
just a discussion. You know what. I'll have a take
on this later in the show. I don't think it
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was a conversation. I don't think it was a meeting.
It is something that Mike knows all about here on
the East Coast. This is a sit down that is
a brokeern thing where it's not a friendly meeting. It's
not It is a sit down around yeah yeah, yeah,
like you know, they had a sit down, and sometimes
those sit downs don't end. Well, sometimes they do. We'll
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find out tonight. But Saquon's smart. The players only meeting,
it's back to the East Coast region. I remember a
lot of Jets fans were rolling their eyes last week
when Aaron Glenn came out and said terrible words for
the Jets fans, great week of pro Then they're like, oh,
in three hundred and fifty two in history when Jets
coaches say they have a great week of practice, great
week of practice, and then like their worst game of
the year. So Jets fans, Giants fan's very sensitive to
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certain sound bites and players only meeting in Philadelphia. You're
the world champs. You shouldn't be having a player's only
media and that's why he's like, no, no, no, we're just talking.
We'll think.
Speaker 10 (13:22):
Well, I also think that If I'm an guy on
the Eagles defense and I get caught until players only
meeting for those three guys, I'm like, why am I
even here?
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Like what do we do on me? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (13:34):
Like it's on you, Like you guys should be the.
Speaker 10 (13:36):
Ones having the meeting, So I don't it's funny that
it's only those three guys that were a meeting. Like
I think it's fitting because if I'm Cooper Dejen and
I get caught in, hey, ten, am we have a
players players only meeting, I'll.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
Be like, for what I'm doing my job, We're doing
our job. It's on y'all. What are we doing here
offensive players only meet?
Speaker 4 (13:56):
But also they had a reconnaissance mission. I guess you
could say, is that what you call when the military
you send somebody gets intel? Kellen Moore is the guy
that faced this team in the Giants defense last week.
If you can't figure out what just happened in the
game you just watched most recently, I mean, I keep
talking about how this is setting up for the Eagles
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and it's almost like getting ready to pull the rug
out from underneath them, Like if you don't play well,
I'm lining up all the things that did go in
your favor in this matchup. That should lead for this
offense to break out. That should lead for this relationship
to get a little bit better. Here, I guess you know,
we'll see.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
That's off the Bears.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
All right, touchdown, touchdown Bears.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
We're on a winning streak ride now, man, two games
in a row.
Speaker 7 (14:49):
Most years weren't done by that. I'm excited about the Bears.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
I'm hike William Scott Greek Ross tied for the end zone.
I've had to feel good about it. Bowls out of
the question. You know.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Good better best, Never let it rest till you're good
is better, and you're better is your best?
Speaker 10 (15:11):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
And when we first heard that, we.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
Almost all of our chairs trying to translate what Ben
Johnson was screaming with a juggular coming.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
Out of his neck.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
He got us all fired up, and maybe Bears fan
should still feel that way up. First, on going for two,
the Bears have a big game against the Commanders, which
they have some recent history with, on Monday Night. It's
a rematch between last year's top two draft picks. There's
a hell mary involved in the situation. It's all very complicated.
The Bears head coach Ben Johnson was asked of his
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evaluation of his quarterback Caleb Williams from last year's draft process.
Speaker 11 (15:44):
I thought it was a really strong class coming out.
It's probably one of the stronger in recent history.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
You know.
Speaker 11 (15:50):
Caleb obviously felt highly about him, you know that or
of the reason why I wanted to come here, you know.
And I haven't been disappointed with him whatsoever. He continues
to get better, lead all arm strength, the ability extend
plays all right.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
So our friend Seth Rollins probably summarized the best for
Bears fans.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
It feels great.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
They feel great about the Bears because we haven't seen
them play in about two weeks time. MANSI they're coming
off a buye, they're fresh, and hopefully that makes him
feel great things going against the Commanders in which they
lost on a hill, Mary last year, What do you want?
What do you think of Chicago right now as they're
trying to build on their two game win streak.
Speaker 10 (16:27):
Well, I think they're building, but I also hope that
they build more on on Dj Moore. I think the
offense for the Chicago Bears has been just Caleb.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
And Romo Doonze as of late.
Speaker 10 (16:37):
But DJ Moore is one of those gadgets. You see
Ben Johnson using him as a running back, you see
him using him as a gadget guy. But DJ Moore
is like a Percy Harvin like he can do all
of those things and still run deep outs. That's the
thing that differentiates DJ Moore from a lot of these
gadget like skilled position players. And I think to be
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able to utilize him more, it's going to open up
more things in the run game. It's going to more
open up more things the passing game with Romeo Dunza
and you know Coson Levlin and company. But getting number
two going you signed, you traded for him for a reason.
You got him there. Utilize his skill set. He has
a very special skill set. He's almost just as fast.
Speaker 11 (17:17):
I think.
Speaker 10 (17:19):
Percy Harpy ran a four to four to one, and
he ran a four to four to two. Dj Moore
ran a four four to two. They're almost identical. So
start using him in that way and I think it'll
open up things more in the office for them.
Speaker 4 (17:29):
As a guy who has DJ Moore in his fantasy team,
I definitely want to see that. But what I want
to see overall if I'm the Bears, if I'm Ben Jonson,
is a running game, and not just with Caleb Williams
scrambling and doing things at the quarterback. I want my
running backs to get involved to the point where there's
now talk of like do they have to trade for
a running back? Barry Sanders wouldn't be able to get
out of some of this stuff here. As a matter
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of fact, our researcher Lakwan helped me. Honest, he said,
kyleman Ungay, Yeah, he's good at seventeen carries on the season,
he has a total of six yards before contact. That's
an averag of not a lot of yards before he's
got somebody in his face. You got to help these
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guys out. It's not about what they're not doing. And
Ben Johnson has said this, it's not about that. It's
about the whole operation. So you had a week three
set here. I want to see this running game with
these running backs be more effective because we think of
like offensive coordinators that are geniuses. Oh, they create so
much through the air. The running game is a big
part of what Ben Johnson wants to do.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
Yeah, there was a parade in Chicago because they landed
Joe Toney. In the offseason, everyone thought they could run
for two hundred dards a game, and they can't get
out of the backfield. Their offensive line and their defensive
line are really flawed. But this game is really, really
interesting from a psychological perspective. Not only have we not
seen the Bears for a couple weeks in a row,
you go up against the Commanders, and this is going
to be all over the broadcast, as it should last year.
It's Caleb versus Jayden, and it's the hail Mary. It's
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the hail Mary that ends the Bears game. It's much
more important than just this one play which we are showing.
And let me give you a little context here. At
this point, the Bears are four and two, like they're
good and they're winning, and then this play happens. It's
not just that they lost this game, guys. This set
off a ten game losing streak. This was lost one
of ten. At the end of that ten game losing streak,
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the offensive coordinator had been fired. The head coach had
been fired. The Bears almost never fire head coaches in
the middle of the season. They were left no choice
not to mention Caleb was thrown into the garbage dump.
Jaden was handed the keys to the league as the
future of the sport. It all went completely different ways.
Caleb knows that all the Bears are aware of that.
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On a personal note, last year, I sat with Caleb
in the middle of his rookie year. I did an
interview with him. He was very cool, he was very loose.
He's a rookie, but I thought he was very giving
in the interview. There was one question, one question which
he noticeably tightened up and went to cliche and it
was me simply saying, have you gotten a load of
what Jaden's doing over in Washington? And he completely changed
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his facial expression changed. He went to it. Yeah, you know,
he's a good competitor and it will be a great
challenge and I wish him the best, and that is
not him. I think he is very aware of the comparisons.
I think he's very aware of the loss that he
suffered to him the draft class comparisons. Always. I think
it's extremely competitive with him. I don't think he wants
to come out and go zero to two against him.
I don't think he wants to come out and say
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this guy should have been drafted over me in Chicago,
blew it again. This is to get it, taking Trubisky
over Mahomes all over again. Caleb Williams has played very
well this year, not okay, not decent, very well, and
they're two and two. This is a massive game. It's
also coming off the buy. Ben Johnson should be ready
for this game. He should be in his bag as
they say. He should be sharp, he should have everything planned.
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The Commanders are not coming off but bye, They've not
had a two week's rest. The Bears are rested, totally
ready and returning to the scene of a terrible crime
that happened to them on their watch. I'm not even
getting into the Ramandre Stevenson factor, who's talking this week
about it still hurts the way that came in it
for me looking in the crowd, there's a lot going
on emotionally for the Bears. Physically, I think they're there. Emotionally,
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it's going to be fascinating to see if they can
handle it.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Kyle, real quick, our research RelA quand just email me this.
Can you rate this on the pettiness scale? The Commanders
are going back to the battle black uniforms in this
week six rematch, which is the same jerseys that they
wore in which they won that game on the hail
Mary attempt?
Speaker 3 (21:14):
Are they just trying to put one to ten? How
petty is this by the commanders? And do you love it?
Speaker 1 (21:18):
Oh? I definitely love it. And it's high. I imagine
there are several home games which they could have worn
that one, same uniforms, same opponents. You know what, the
Bears should wear the same thame kit too. Don't go
white pants, go right back to it. Play into it
because that's all nonsense. Lean into it and undo that
wrong that happened to you. By the way they played
it really well, was just a lucky bounce.
Speaker 4 (21:39):
You're mister FedExField JumboTron guy.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
Sure are you running this play in the pre game?
Speaker 7 (21:46):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (21:46):
Oh yeah you are.
Speaker 7 (21:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
I think we're over, absolutely absolutely, I think you run
it over. They were in the same uniforms. You do
all the same things. Why not. This is a terrible
moment for the Bears. It was probably the best moment
of dan Quinn's tenure there at the beginning until they
were in the playoffs. Look at kleb. Yeah, that game
won a couple different times. Game and cut away right
before the Iberfluce like what well, Abramfluce now is coaching
(22:09):
Dallas's defense, So to do with that what you will? Well?
Speaker 2 (22:11):
Like we said, one of the most electric moments for
a lot of the people on the commander's staff and
that quarterback Sam could be said maybe for the Jaguars
staff and their quarterback after last weekend, Trevor Lawrence's game
winning touchdown against the Chiefs was quite the experience for
Jaguars fans in the stands who witnessed what went down
on Monday night's game against Kansas City.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
Take a listen.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
For all you football fans out there at this table
who watched the show, or you who have played in
this game, anti, do you have a play that takes
you on that type of emotional roller coaster the way
that that guy was feeling about Trevor Lawrence on Monday night.
Speaker 10 (22:56):
That was a Disney roller coaster compared to what I
went through and the rest of my teammates went through.
On January fourteen, two an eighteen in a divisional playoff
game against the Minnesota Vikings that a lot of people
know about.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
There's ten second stuff in the game.
Speaker 10 (23:12):
Case Keenum drops back and he hits to Fon Diggs
on a corner route, and this closes out the game.
Not only was that wasn't the end of the roller coaster, though, Jamie,
that wasn't the end why because after this play, we
all proceeded to come across the field, shake hands, and
get into the locker room. While we're sitting in the
locker room, the referee comes into the locker room and
(23:34):
tells us that we have to run back out for
the extra point. I remember this game, yes, Kyle, I
remember this thing very vividly. And so unfortunately, the touchdown
that Stefon Dick scored in is opposite of the tunnel
we ran out of. So we had to run out
of the stadium, run out of our locker room, run
across the field to case Keenum, and the entire stadium
(23:55):
during the skull chant just for case Keenum to kneel
the ball, and we have to run back into the
locker room.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
So you're talking about a roller coaster. That was my
roller coaster.
Speaker 10 (24:04):
That was the roller coaster for all of my teammates,
and it's something that I can't get over.
Speaker 4 (24:09):
Marcus Williams a fantastic player, bad moment overcame it has
had a fantastic career.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
Well take me in the locker room there on the bus.
Speaker 4 (24:17):
What are you guys saying to him at that point.
Speaker 10 (24:19):
Yeah, there's a lot of crying on Marcus Williams point.
And there's been a lot of people that have done
this for teammates that a lot of people have come
to the rescue, and we did. It was a heartbreaking
moment for all of us. And then the very next
year we have the no call PI against the Rams. Oh,
you know, it just kept stacking up for us.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
It sucks. But Nick cal Ruby Coleman, Yeah, yeah, thanks,
thanks guys.
Speaker 10 (24:42):
Yeah, so for two years in a row we had
those kind of roller coasters by those special moments for sure, guys.
Speaker 4 (24:48):
For some hey, it gave you, It gave you stories
to tell here on the air, so you know, they
keep telling very type. For me, it is the Miles
Jack play. It was just a week after that play
that you were talking about January twenty first, twenty eighteen,
the AFT Championship game Jaguars Patriots. Now look at the
I forget, I forgot the beginning the part of this
(25:09):
play here.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
You got the little.
Speaker 4 (25:10):
Throwback happening here. Uh huh, And you're watching this and
now this is in the middle of like, are the
Patriots gonna come back and make this a game and
win this game? Like we know they're going to do.
This play happens, you really can't like live. It didn't
even look like a fumble. Then all of a sudden,
he's getting up. You see the way he's reacting.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
You go, William had to it like he definitely knew
that that was a fumble.
Speaker 4 (25:30):
He also definitely knew.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
In the moment that he hadn't been touched.
Speaker 4 (25:33):
So then you go back and you watch the replan,
it's like, wait a minute, was it a fumble?
Speaker 7 (25:37):
Was he touched?
Speaker 4 (25:39):
Did they have possession of the ball? The ball carrier
that Dean Lewis first.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
Should have been, Yeah, it should have been a Jaguars sush.
Speaker 4 (25:44):
This should have been a Jaguars touchdown. It would have
been twenty seven to ten because the Patriots have come
back with that, I guess possibly, but at that point
you're thinking game's over if this is called correctly. And look,
I'm in the business now, I don't root for a team,
but there's something called Patriots fatigue. That was a real
thing with media covering the Shop Bowl every single year,
and you're going, wait a second, this could be the
(26:07):
Jaguars in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
That might be fun.
Speaker 4 (26:11):
Blake flipping bortles versus in the Super Bowl that might
be fresh and.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
Fun, and then all of a sudden.
Speaker 10 (26:17):
The Patriots.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
That's like, okay, cover Patriots.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
Play.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
It kind of reminds me of what we were talking
yesterday about guys dropping the ball at the goal line. Like,
if anything, it shows us that if a play like
that goes down and you even have an inkling in
your head that you may have may or may not
have been touched if it was or was not a fumble,
just run all the way to the end zone. I
don't care if it's eighty two yards in the opposite direction.
It's like running through first base even though it was
a drop third strike, Like you just go and commit,
(26:45):
because what if they had eventually said, you're right, that
was a fumble and Miles Jack just spiked the ball
and ended the play, Like, just pick up the ball.
If you have any thought that you should have been touched,
just finished the play and go for six.
Speaker 10 (26:55):
I feel, let's do a great job now, letting things go.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
Yeah, they'll let play. Yeah, that one they blew the whistle.
You gotta let it go. They blew the whistle, and
that's now their coach. Let it go, and then you
can reverse it. But I have If you've got Patriots fatigue, still,
I have the cure for it. Don't roll it. Yeah.
There are two plays in the modern NFL that make
me laugh out loud every single time. The first one
is Sean Taylor hitting and Brian Mormon and the Pro Bowl.
(27:18):
It's my favorite play in history. The second one is
this Las Vegas twenty twenty two Patriots Raiders. This is
the most hilarious, unnest, go ahead, roll it unnecessary thing
I've ever seen. End of the game. Mac Jones Patriots guys.
The game is tied. They don't want to go to overtime.
So you see Remondre. He's gonna eventually laddle to Jacoby Myers,
(27:41):
who decides to throw it back to mac Jones. No,
Chaydler Jones stiff arms Mac Jones and the game is over.
Chaydler Jones the ex Patriot guys. This play has his
own Wikipedia page. It's called the Lunatic Lateral and not
imagine what a terrible decision this was by Jacoby Myers,
who I totally respect. Again, if you're down, you're down one,
(28:05):
give it a try. Who cares you're gonna lose the game?
The game is tied, go to overtime. What are you
doing to Kobe? He throws it across the field. Jones Jones,
It's like, I'll take it Mac Jones, the worst to
tackle attempt of all times, and the game is over.
The Patriots, who are over five hundred at that time,
would go on to miss the playoffs. Mac Jones' career
(28:26):
would spile out of control, and God blessed him. He's
doing great with San Francisco. Now look at Belichick. It's
it's probably the worst loss in the last fifty years.
That last week we saw the Titans Cardinals. That's worse.
That's worse than the guy dropping the ball and all that,
because all you had to do is just go down,
go to overtime, you probably win. It's the Raiders, I'm
sure they'll lose. You throw it back to It's just
some lunatic lateral. I laugh every single time I see it.
Speaker 4 (28:47):
You may be right of that is I say this
every year in free agency, usually a guy will sign
with a team that he killed the year before, Like
we want that guy on this seat.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
Jacoby Meyers been is the opposite of that. He did
sign with the Raiders. That's amazing. Here's what you got,
good out, you got a good eye forty four. Like
a bad little kid. He's been like a little back here?
What the that is? You won't really card you Rother
(29:22):
been in one of those little football camp and you
picked up one in the back here. It's like rustling
with him. That wasn't the forty one? Like I have
been a little sit back then going. It's like a
bad little kid. Crown football for.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
You, Scotta was like it was five yards.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
Tomorrow Davis one of the sweetest, soft spoken guys that
shows up at our table very often. But when he
is trying to take you down, Oh he's gonna call you.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
A bad little kid at a football camp. Manti. You
know both of those characters. What do you make of
this scene with Tomorrow?
Speaker 10 (29:53):
To your point, Jamie doesn't really say much. You know,
he's very very polite, very very respectful, very humble, but
when he is on a football field, as most football
players do there's this switch that he makes and he
starts to yap a little bit. But I can't help
but think that someone like Cam Scataboo has earned that
kind of respect because you don't go back and forth
with somebody that you don't respect. And then Camscataboo has
(30:14):
garnered that respect from a lot of defenders and some
Saints last week too, So I'm looking forward to seeing
what he does against the Eagles.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
Hi, you what, anything, One thing I was never good like.
Speaker 4 (30:22):
I played the high school level, college level mantai all
the way up the NFL. Maybe this changes that you
go up the ranks, But one thing I was never
good at was after the game, Like I still wanted
to knock the guy's head off. So for those guys
to be trash talking in the middle of the game
and then showing the respect after the game, that is one.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
Of the things that I admire incredibly.
Speaker 4 (30:42):
To be able to put all that emotion aside and
the brotherhood of the NFL player there despite all the
trash talk that's going on there.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
It's one of the things that I love.
Speaker 4 (30:51):
And to be able to see it in a clip
here and to be able to hear it is pretty incredible.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
I'd like to see it against the Eagles tonight. It
is a big knight for Camp Scattaboo. I know they're
one and four, they're out of things right now, but
nationally televised game, standalone game at home, in front of
your rival, this is a big opportunity for Camp scattbo
People want to love him. He represents something in football
that's old school, in old fashioned. I think they are
gonna be kids who want to be Camp scattedbo for Halloweens,
like I think they're gonna be adults who want to
(31:15):
be Camp Scatboo for Halloween. Give them something to be
excited about tonight. It's a fun, fun story winner. Lose
one hundred yards or five yards like I would love
one like great just truck job from Scataboo, lats to night,
just anything, one great stiff arm, just give us a
little feeling. It's something to be excited about in New Jersey. Mic. Yeah,
you know.
Speaker 4 (31:32):
This is also, as you say that, an interesting platform
for the Eagles because as a defending Super Bowl champ,
they've played five games and what one's been in a
prime time only one so far? Like if it was
the Chiefs, And we've seen the Chiefs multiple times already
before already now, so this is them into the national spotlight,
away from that one o'clock window that they've been in
a bunch here. So they've got so much going on
(31:53):
right now that everybody's going to be watching it now,
and everything seems to be magnified when these things happen
in this game.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
It's SPI is really super important for the Eagles.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
And I had to mention that is the adult that
wants to be Camp Scattaboo on the show US today,
Kyle Brant, are you telling us that you were going
to dress up as Camp Scattaboo for Halloween?
Speaker 1 (32:09):
No, that's that's that's my nephew. That's blood. I don't
dress up as my own family members like I I
somebody else should do that. My son wants to do it,
go ahead, but technically that's his cousin. So outside of
the Brandt family, that's a great costume. You just need
a forty four jersey, you need a beard, and just
anybody who comes across you just run over them and
take their candy. That's that's a simple costume.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
Eagles Giants happening tonight primetime action for both teams in
the NFC East
Good Morning Football is the production of the NFL in
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Speaker 2 (00:11):
Hey everybody, this is Good Morning Football, presented by Old
Trapper Beef Jerkey. It's Thursday, October ninth, Week five is
upon us. Jamie at Allmance Ieo here in La, Mike
Garrafolo and Kyle Brandt in New York.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Many Mike call Thursday night matchups.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Historic NFC East rivals. I call it the Mike Garrifolo
beat writer game.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
It is the matchup.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
I assume that Mike Garrifolo has spent many a time
in many a days. That practice might be the Byeline reads.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
I spend a lot of time in my career. This
is where I cut my teeth. What's up, Mike T?
How are you?
Speaker 4 (00:40):
And guess what, Jamie, I'll be there tonight.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Yeah stadium, you boy, you boy, let's go. Mich will
be there. I'll be on the couch and it'll be fantastic.
We'll love it. We'll talk about it all tomorrow, but
pert let's preview it today as well as the entire slate.
Speaker 5 (00:56):
It's Good Morning Football, Rock and Roll.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Welcome to Good Morning Football, presented by Old Trapper. Yeah
that's right, everybody, GMFB, Jamie Manti, Mike g and Kyle Hope.
Everybody's having a great Thursday ahead of Thursday Night Football.
We have trivia during this show, which is always a
grand old time and it has a lot to do
with some of the historic matchups for the week ahead
of week six. Now, Ian Rappaport, that is where we begin.
(01:34):
Thursday Night Football is upon us. It's Eagles, Giants, NFC East.
It looks great, however, bit of a stumble for both
teams after last weekend. So what are we keeping an
eye on before kickoff on a Thursday night.
Speaker 6 (01:47):
Well, we'll start with some of the injuries that we
are watching. Some of the injuries we already know the
outcome of, but we'll start with one that we do not.
Jalen Carter, you start defensive tackle for the Philadelphia Eagles,
who of course became a national headline earlier this season
with a spinning incidents the Cowboys, showing me a big
enough name in his own right just because of his play.
He's officially questionable with a heel injury.
Speaker 7 (02:10):
My understanding is this is not a major injury.
Speaker 6 (02:12):
Certainly, there is a chance, a very real chance that
he plays tonight.
Speaker 7 (02:16):
However, we have seen over the.
Speaker 6 (02:18):
Last several years as player deals with a lower body
injury about to head on the MetLife turf. Maybe they're
a little more cautious than all this, so we'll reserve
judgment on this one until later. But either way, not
a significant injury or Jalen Carter for sa Kwon Barkley
in the ultimate revenge Game, much more so than Mike
Garrifola is the revenge game. This is a real revenge game.
(02:40):
He's been dealing with a knee injury, reported some soreness
after last week's game. He is now off the injury
report and good to go when not a participated in
Monday and upgraded Tuesday, good to go on Wednesday, but
obviously we will watch for any effects of that knee
injury today.
Speaker 7 (02:55):
And then Darius Slayton, one of the.
Speaker 6 (02:57):
Giants receivers, He is officially out with a hamstring injury,
not considered to be a major injury, but just really
too quick of a turnaround forty.
Speaker 7 (03:05):
Short week, so he is not going to play.
Speaker 6 (03:07):
Obviously, maleague neighbors he is dealing with still with the
Aco and the menis because he of course is out
for the season awaiting surgery, so the Giants receiving core
for new quarterback Jackson Dart is already pretty shorthanded.
Speaker 7 (03:21):
The loss of Darius Slayton hurts there as well.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Speaking of injury reports, rap sheet, how is one supposed
to break news or injury information with a really character
looking band aid on your thumb?
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Are you okay man? What's the injury report there?
Speaker 1 (03:34):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (03:35):
As a Mike reporter on the inside is yesterday I
sliced my thumb cooking dinner.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
For the boys.
Speaker 7 (03:40):
I can't button anything.
Speaker 6 (03:41):
My left button's not done because I can't do it
because my thumb doesn't work.
Speaker 7 (03:46):
It is the only band aids I have.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
We have kids band aids in the house, Marmaduke.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
So wow, pledgere Kurt, the information still got out there, Kyle,
that's honorable.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
Yeah, that.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
Is one of the crucial But that's that's a lost art.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
You're making. You're making a meal for your children. You're
not just you know, uber reading door dashing. You're not
faith like you're actually cooking. I respect it. That's the
red badge of courage. It's fine, go ahead through that's bad.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
I think. Thanks Raps Shet appreciate you.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
I think there was a shot actually of Howie Roseman
in the booth the other day.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
You're the Eagles game doing like.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
The four finger text right here, so like that is
also a lostar rap sheet. You're gonna have to get
into that as well. It's not weird sometimes it's just
the most efficient way. Speaking of the Eagles, We're going
to look ahead at this game for Thursday night Eagles Giants.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
It's in New York.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Let's hear though from the Eagles quarterback Jalen Herds and
their head coach Nick Sirianni on the Hurts AJ Brown
Saquon Barkley meeting that went down and what we want
to learn from it.
Speaker 8 (04:45):
It's just just talking about the collective, talking about taking
ownership for what we can and talking about how we
move forward as a team so we continue to find
ways to win games. Why why just really just teammates
being teammates.
Speaker 9 (04:58):
When the captains on your team and the leaders of
your football team are doing that, you know, and just
focusing on how we get better and take the next steps,
you know that that that trickles down to everybody. That's
my theory with coaches that's my theory with UH with
the leaders of your football team. So everyone just you know,
this isn't all that different than you know last year
(05:18):
going through these things as well. You buckle down, you
find solutions, you find answers to the to the problems,
and you know, you get and you work yourself to
get better from that.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
That's what it's about.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
I feel like we're really flirting with players only meeting
that goes down in locker rooms all the time. Now,
this is only a handful of the players in this conversation.
Big time NFC s matchup tonight, storylines all over the place.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
Mike Garrilfolo.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Knowing both these organizations as well as you do, you
anticipate to be on hand tonight.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
What else are you looking for?
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Perhaps you want to dive more into this conversation that
we just heard about within the Eagles locker room.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
Jamie Low hanging fruit gets a bad rap, But let
me tell you something. It's the sweetest because it's the ripest.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
So give me a bight of that back way. I'm
looking at a J.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
Brown, I'm looking at Jalen Hurts, and I want to
see this connection because if it doesn't happen tonight. I
don't know when it's going to happen. You know, later
in the program, Kyle's going to take you inside that
player's only meeting. I sort of felt like I was
in it when I was reading our research packet.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
According to the FF, Jalen.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
Hurts is the third highest rate of uncatchable passes thrown
well not under pressure. So you know AJ saying, tell
me a catchable pass, man well, and then Jalen saying. However,
according to the Next Gen Stats, the Eagles have the
second lowest yards of separation at the pass in the
NFL in twenty twenty five, three point one yards, ahead
(06:39):
of only the Ravens. So it's like, that's what's going
on here between the two of them. And I know
there's been this notion of like zone coverage giving Jalen
Hurts fits. Nobody runs man coverage more than the New
York Giants, and they don't necessarily disguise it in a
lot of ways that other teams do.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
This is the game.
Speaker 4 (06:57):
This is the game for AJ Brown, for Jalen Hurts
to get their man coverage, their one on one matchups.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
AJ's old.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
Even when I'm covered I'm not covered.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
I'm open. This is the game. If it doesn't happen
tonight against.
Speaker 4 (07:09):
A familiar opponent, you've played well again, that you're gonna
get your matchup up. I'm a little worried as to
whether or not it's actually gonna happen this year.
Speaker 7 (07:18):
Mike G. Mike G.
Speaker 10 (07:20):
There are some a lot of frustrations coming out of
that camp, but there's a lot of anger coming out
of the other one with camp Scattawoo and how he
plays this game.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Last week against.
Speaker 10 (07:30):
The Saints, there are a lot of talks and clips
of how he's been playing, and a former teammate of mine,
Tomorrow Davis, had had some things to say about how
he just loves how this guy runs with a lot
of anger, and he was a Week one Angry Run
Scepter recipient and then we look to seeing more of
that coming this year. However, he is going against an
(07:52):
Eagles defense that has Zach Bond, that has Jalen Carter
hopefully Cooper de jen Jahad Campbell. Like, there's a saying
that says everybody wants to be a gangster, into the
real gangster walks in to the room, We're gonna find out, guys,
if this rookie is really about that life.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
I really believe that he is. I really believe that
he's one of those.
Speaker 10 (08:13):
And it reminds me of those historical matches with Eddie
George and ray Lewis or Brian Urlacker on the bus
that I used to watch as a little kid, Like
this is gonna be those old school running down your throat.
I'm gonna meet you in the A gap, and there's
gonna be a lot of that this game because how
the New York Giants want to attack you is through
the run. So if I'm gonna be looking at anything,
(08:34):
it's gonna be cam Scataboo against that Eagles defense and
all those characters on that defense, because you know the
defense is going to come to hit. They're gonna be
trying to be bullies, and we're gonna see who's gonna
bully the bully.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
We have a fun dichotme here on the show right
now where it's West coast, East coast and here everything's
going great out there with LA football. The Rams are
very good. Oh boohoo. The Chargers have lost to in
a row. There are football fans are in New York
would cut off a finger to only lose two in
a row. I understand, like it's it's a tough, tough spot,
but there is like tonight is like basically East Coast
football prom All right, it is the Eagles. They're coming
(09:09):
to Jersey. Let me give you a little state of
the nation. What's going on here in New York City
is we do the show live here from Lower Manhattan.
First of all, the Yankees are dead. They're done. That
is sixteen straight years without a World Series. They were
never going to win that series. Toronto was better from
start to finish. It was never in doubt. The Mets'
even mentioned them. They've been dead for weeks. It feels
(09:29):
like the Jets they're the worst team in the NFL.
Their fans are literally looking at draft profiles on October ninth.
There's also something going on here. You're going to see
tonight where it's like it's cold here. Now we've had
this crazy late summer. It's going to be in the
forties tonight, like the morale is just going down and down,
and all the trees are dead and the teams are dead.
New York Giants, Please, I'm asking nicely, can you show
(09:53):
up tonight. Can you give us something? Can you give
us a product? Let's have some goodwill towards men and
women and no goodwill towards the Eagles. Here's the deal.
This is a nationally televised game in met life. If
this game goes poorly, if this game is a terrible loss,
it's pretty much it. There's not gonna be much conversation anymore.
You're gonna go to one in five. It's just kind
(10:13):
of over. You play the Eagles in a couple of weeks.
If you lose tonight twenty seven to thirteen, no one's
gonna care about the one in a couple of weeks.
It's gonna be in the one o'clock window. It's going
to be totally irrelevant. This is an important night for you.
I know you only get to two and four if
you shock the world. Give it the investors, the fans,
a little taste of the products. You have, great rookies.
You've spent great capital on these rookies. They're all going
to be out there. They're all healthy, these young guys.
(10:36):
Can you put on a show. Can you compete? Because
the Eagles right now, to use Mike's analogie they're right
for the picking. They got discord, they got dysfunction, They
don't have a lot of productivity. Can you not please
go out there when your fans, your team, your city,
your region needs you to put out a good product
for one bleep in time at Mett Life Stadium before
(10:57):
you go quietly in the night. This is the winner
go home game for the New York Giants, and please,
for the love of God, show up tonight. I don't
think it's too the.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
New York Liberty loss in the first round of the
WNBA Playoffs.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
Let their coach go.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
The Rangers have not won a preseason game yet, but
there is hope as the Knicks begin preseason action tonight
against the Timberwolves. So maybe let's see how that season goes.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
We hope for the best for.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
The New York media market in general and sports fans there.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
I tread lightly with my follow.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Up question, and I'm going to pay it right back
to Kyle, and I mentioned these words at the beginning
of the show Here we Go, which is the concept
of players only meetings. Now, I don't know where this
falls on your list, Kyle of annoying words or concepts
in football. I said it, and I was immediately reminded
of something that Saquon Barkley said yesterday.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
Which is no, no, no, no, no no, this is
not a player's only meeting. He actually said that that
implies that all hell's breaking loose.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
He told this DESPM and he said it wasn't all
that we're teammates, we're friends, We're just having conversations. I
don't know if that's someone who's trying to back out
of like the nobody panic situation. But Kyle, when you
hear that three players have to triangulate and somebody has
to play intermediary between two of the guys on the team,
and knowing Saquan's personality, how does the news of this.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
Make you feel?
Speaker 1 (12:11):
Well, saquons smart because players only meeting is such a
loaded phrase. Now you hear that and you're like, you're screwed.
Players only meeting comes right before Cabo, like it is
right above burying the football from a bad loss in
one of the terrible smoke signals that we are cooked.
So he's like, no, no, no, no, no, no, players only meeting,
just a discussion. You know what. I'll have a take
on this later in the show. I don't think it
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was a conversation. I don't think it was a meeting.
It is something that Mike knows all about here on
the East Coast. This is a sit down that is
a brokeern thing where it's not a friendly meeting. It's
not It is a sit down around yeah yeah, yeah,
like you know, they had a sit down, and sometimes
those sit downs don't end. Well, sometimes they do. We'll
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find out tonight. But Saquon's smart. The players only meeting,
it's back to the East Coast region. I remember a
lot of Jets fans were rolling their eyes last week
when Aaron Glenn came out and said terrible words for
the Jets fans, great week of pro Then they're like, oh,
in three hundred and fifty two in history when Jets
coaches say they have a great week of practice, great
week of practice, and then like their worst game of
the year. So Jets fans, Giants fan's very sensitive to
(13:14):
certain sound bites and players only meeting in Philadelphia. You're
the world champs. You shouldn't be having a player's only
media and that's why he's like, no, no, no, we're just talking.
We'll think.
Speaker 10 (13:22):
Well, I also think that If I'm an guy on
the Eagles defense and I get caught until players only
meeting for those three guys, I'm like, why am I
even here?
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Like what do we do on me? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (13:34):
Like it's on you, Like you guys should be the.
Speaker 10 (13:36):
Ones having the meeting, So I don't it's funny that
it's only those three guys that were a meeting. Like
I think it's fitting because if I'm Cooper Dejen and
I get caught in, hey, ten, am we have a
players players only meeting, I'll.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
Be like, for what I'm doing my job, We're doing
our job. It's on y'all. What are we doing here
offensive players only meet?
Speaker 4 (13:56):
But also they had a reconnaissance mission. I guess you
could say, is that what you call when the military
you send somebody gets intel? Kellen Moore is the guy
that faced this team in the Giants defense last week.
If you can't figure out what just happened in the
game you just watched most recently, I mean, I keep
talking about how this is setting up for the Eagles
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and it's almost like getting ready to pull the rug
out from underneath them, Like if you don't play well,
I'm lining up all the things that did go in
your favor in this matchup. That should lead for this
offense to break out. That should lead for this relationship
to get a little bit better. Here, I guess you know,
we'll see.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
That's off the Bears.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
All right, touchdown, touchdown Bears.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
We're on a winning streak ride now, man, two games
in a row.
Speaker 7 (14:49):
Most years weren't done by that. I'm excited about the Bears.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
I'm hike William Scott Greek Ross tied for the end zone.
I've had to feel good about it. Bowls out of
the question. You know.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Good better best, Never let it rest till you're good
is better, and you're better is your best?
Speaker 10 (15:11):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
And when we first heard that, we.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
Almost all of our chairs trying to translate what Ben
Johnson was screaming with a juggular coming.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
Out of his neck.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
He got us all fired up, and maybe Bears fan
should still feel that way up. First, on going for two,
the Bears have a big game against the Commanders, which
they have some recent history with, on Monday Night. It's
a rematch between last year's top two draft picks. There's
a hell mary involved in the situation. It's all very complicated.
The Bears head coach Ben Johnson was asked of his
(15:38):
evaluation of his quarterback Caleb Williams from last year's draft process.
Speaker 11 (15:44):
I thought it was a really strong class coming out.
It's probably one of the stronger in recent history.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
You know.
Speaker 11 (15:50):
Caleb obviously felt highly about him, you know that or
of the reason why I wanted to come here, you know.
And I haven't been disappointed with him whatsoever. He continues
to get better, lead all arm strength, the ability extend
plays all right.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
So our friend Seth Rollins probably summarized the best for
Bears fans.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
It feels great.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
They feel great about the Bears because we haven't seen
them play in about two weeks time. MANSI they're coming
off a buye, they're fresh, and hopefully that makes him
feel great things going against the Commanders in which they
lost on a hill, Mary last year, What do you want?
What do you think of Chicago right now as they're
trying to build on their two game win streak.
Speaker 10 (16:27):
Well, I think they're building, but I also hope that
they build more on on Dj Moore. I think the
offense for the Chicago Bears has been just Caleb.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
And Romo Doonze as of late.
Speaker 10 (16:37):
But DJ Moore is one of those gadgets. You see
Ben Johnson using him as a running back, you see
him using him as a gadget guy. But DJ Moore
is like a Percy Harvin like he can do all
of those things and still run deep outs. That's the
thing that differentiates DJ Moore from a lot of these
gadget like skilled position players. And I think to be
(16:58):
able to utilize him more, it's going to open up
more things in the run game. It's going to more
open up more things the passing game with Romeo Dunza
and you know Coson Levlin and company. But getting number
two going you signed, you traded for him for a reason.
You got him there. Utilize his skill set. He has
a very special skill set. He's almost just as fast.
Speaker 11 (17:17):
I think.
Speaker 10 (17:19):
Percy Harpy ran a four to four to one, and
he ran a four to four to two. Dj Moore
ran a four four to two. They're almost identical. So
start using him in that way and I think it'll
open up things more in the office for them.
Speaker 4 (17:29):
As a guy who has DJ Moore in his fantasy team,
I definitely want to see that. But what I want
to see overall if I'm the Bears, if I'm Ben Jonson,
is a running game, and not just with Caleb Williams
scrambling and doing things at the quarterback. I want my
running backs to get involved to the point where there's
now talk of like do they have to trade for
a running back? Barry Sanders wouldn't be able to get
out of some of this stuff here. As a matter
(17:50):
of fact, our researcher Lakwan helped me. Honest, he said,
kyleman Ungay, Yeah, he's good at seventeen carries on the season,
he has a total of six yards before contact. That's
an averag of not a lot of yards before he's
got somebody in his face. You got to help these
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guys out. It's not about what they're not doing. And
Ben Johnson has said this, it's not about that. It's
about the whole operation. So you had a week three
set here. I want to see this running game with
these running backs be more effective because we think of
like offensive coordinators that are geniuses. Oh, they create so
much through the air. The running game is a big
part of what Ben Johnson wants to do.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
Yeah, there was a parade in Chicago because they landed
Joe Toney. In the offseason, everyone thought they could run
for two hundred dards a game, and they can't get
out of the backfield. Their offensive line and their defensive
line are really flawed. But this game is really, really
interesting from a psychological perspective. Not only have we not
seen the Bears for a couple weeks in a row,
you go up against the Commanders, and this is going
to be all over the broadcast, as it should last year.
It's Caleb versus Jayden, and it's the hail Mary. It's
(18:48):
the hail Mary that ends the Bears game. It's much
more important than just this one play which we are showing.
And let me give you a little context here. At
this point, the Bears are four and two, like they're
good and they're winning, and then this play happens. It's
not just that they lost this game, guys. This set
off a ten game losing streak. This was lost one
of ten. At the end of that ten game losing streak,
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the offensive coordinator had been fired. The head coach had
been fired. The Bears almost never fire head coaches in
the middle of the season. They were left no choice
not to mention Caleb was thrown into the garbage dump.
Jaden was handed the keys to the league as the
future of the sport. It all went completely different ways.
Caleb knows that all the Bears are aware of that.
(19:32):
On a personal note, last year, I sat with Caleb
in the middle of his rookie year. I did an
interview with him. He was very cool, he was very loose.
He's a rookie, but I thought he was very giving
in the interview. There was one question, one question which
he noticeably tightened up and went to cliche and it
was me simply saying, have you gotten a load of
what Jaden's doing over in Washington? And he completely changed
(19:53):
his facial expression changed. He went to it. Yeah, you know,
he's a good competitor and it will be a great
challenge and I wish him the best, and that is
not him. I think he is very aware of the comparisons.
I think he's very aware of the loss that he
suffered to him the draft class comparisons. Always. I think
it's extremely competitive with him. I don't think he wants
to come out and go zero to two against him.
I don't think he wants to come out and say
(20:13):
this guy should have been drafted over me in Chicago,
blew it again. This is to get it, taking Trubisky
over Mahomes all over again. Caleb Williams has played very
well this year, not okay, not decent, very well, and
they're two and two. This is a massive game. It's
also coming off the buy. Ben Johnson should be ready
for this game. He should be in his bag as
they say. He should be sharp, he should have everything planned.
(20:36):
The Commanders are not coming off but bye, They've not
had a two week's rest. The Bears are rested, totally
ready and returning to the scene of a terrible crime
that happened to them on their watch. I'm not even
getting into the Ramandre Stevenson factor, who's talking this week
about it still hurts the way that came in it
for me looking in the crowd, there's a lot going
on emotionally for the Bears. Physically, I think they're there. Emotionally,
(20:57):
it's going to be fascinating to see if they can
handle it.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Kyle, real quick, our research RelA quand just email me this.
Can you rate this on the pettiness scale? The Commanders
are going back to the battle black uniforms in this
week six rematch, which is the same jerseys that they
wore in which they won that game on the hail
Mary attempt?
Speaker 3 (21:14):
Are they just trying to put one to ten? How
petty is this by the commanders? And do you love it?
Speaker 1 (21:18):
Oh? I definitely love it. And it's high. I imagine
there are several home games which they could have worn
that one, same uniforms, same opponents. You know what, the
Bears should wear the same thame kit too. Don't go
white pants, go right back to it. Play into it
because that's all nonsense. Lean into it and undo that
wrong that happened to you. By the way they played
it really well, was just a lucky bounce.
Speaker 4 (21:39):
You're mister FedExField JumboTron guy.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
Sure are you running this play in the pre game?
Speaker 7 (21:46):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (21:46):
Oh yeah you are.
Speaker 7 (21:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
I think we're over, absolutely absolutely, I think you run
it over. They were in the same uniforms. You do
all the same things. Why not. This is a terrible
moment for the Bears. It was probably the best moment
of dan Quinn's tenure there at the beginning until they
were in the playoffs. Look at kleb. Yeah, that game
won a couple different times. Game and cut away right
before the Iberfluce like what well, Abramfluce now is coaching
(22:09):
Dallas's defense, So to do with that what you will? Well?
Speaker 2 (22:11):
Like we said, one of the most electric moments for
a lot of the people on the commander's staff and
that quarterback Sam could be said maybe for the Jaguars
staff and their quarterback after last weekend, Trevor Lawrence's game
winning touchdown against the Chiefs was quite the experience for
Jaguars fans in the stands who witnessed what went down
on Monday night's game against Kansas City.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
Take a listen.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
For all you football fans out there at this table
who watched the show, or you who have played in
this game, anti, do you have a play that takes
you on that type of emotional roller coaster the way
that that guy was feeling about Trevor Lawrence on Monday night.
Speaker 10 (22:56):
That was a Disney roller coaster compared to what I
went through and the rest of my teammates went through.
On January fourteen, two an eighteen in a divisional playoff
game against the Minnesota Vikings that a lot of people
know about.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
There's ten second stuff in the game.
Speaker 10 (23:12):
Case Keenum drops back and he hits to Fon Diggs
on a corner route, and this closes out the game.
Not only was that wasn't the end of the roller coaster, though, Jamie,
that wasn't the end why because after this play, we
all proceeded to come across the field, shake hands, and
get into the locker room. While we're sitting in the
locker room, the referee comes into the locker room and
(23:34):
tells us that we have to run back out for
the extra point. I remember this game, yes, Kyle, I
remember this thing very vividly. And so unfortunately, the touchdown
that Stefon Dick scored in is opposite of the tunnel
we ran out of. So we had to run out
of the stadium, run out of our locker room, run
across the field to case Keenum, and the entire stadium
(23:55):
during the skull chant just for case Keenum to kneel
the ball, and we have to run back into the
locker room.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
So you're talking about a roller coaster. That was my
roller coaster.
Speaker 10 (24:04):
That was the roller coaster for all of my teammates,
and it's something that I can't get over.
Speaker 4 (24:09):
Marcus Williams a fantastic player, bad moment overcame it has
had a fantastic career.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
Well take me in the locker room there on the bus.
Speaker 4 (24:17):
What are you guys saying to him at that point.
Speaker 10 (24:19):
Yeah, there's a lot of crying on Marcus Williams point.
And there's been a lot of people that have done
this for teammates that a lot of people have come
to the rescue, and we did. It was a heartbreaking
moment for all of us. And then the very next
year we have the no call PI against the Rams. Oh,
you know, it just kept stacking up for us.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
It sucks. But Nick cal Ruby Coleman, Yeah, yeah, thanks,
thanks guys.
Speaker 10 (24:42):
Yeah, so for two years in a row we had
those kind of roller coasters by those special moments for sure, guys.
Speaker 4 (24:48):
For some hey, it gave you, It gave you stories
to tell here on the air, so you know, they
keep telling very type. For me, it is the Miles
Jack play. It was just a week after that play
that you were talking about January twenty first, twenty eighteen,
the AFT Championship game Jaguars Patriots. Now look at the
I forget, I forgot the beginning the part of this
(25:09):
play here.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
You got the little.
Speaker 4 (25:10):
Throwback happening here. Uh huh, And you're watching this and
now this is in the middle of like, are the
Patriots gonna come back and make this a game and
win this game? Like we know they're going to do.
This play happens, you really can't like live. It didn't
even look like a fumble. Then all of a sudden,
he's getting up. You see the way he's reacting.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
You go, William had to it like he definitely knew
that that was a fumble.
Speaker 4 (25:30):
He also definitely knew.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
In the moment that he hadn't been touched.
Speaker 4 (25:33):
So then you go back and you watch the replan,
it's like, wait a minute, was it a fumble?
Speaker 7 (25:37):
Was he touched?
Speaker 4 (25:39):
Did they have possession of the ball? The ball carrier
that Dean Lewis first.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
Should have been, Yeah, it should have been a Jaguars sush.
Speaker 4 (25:44):
This should have been a Jaguars touchdown. It would have
been twenty seven to ten because the Patriots have come
back with that, I guess possibly, but at that point
you're thinking game's over if this is called correctly. And look,
I'm in the business now, I don't root for a team,
but there's something called Patriots fatigue. That was a real
thing with media covering the Shop Bowl every single year,
and you're going, wait a second, this could be the
(26:07):
Jaguars in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
That might be fun.
Speaker 4 (26:11):
Blake flipping bortles versus in the Super Bowl that might
be fresh and.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
Fun, and then all of a sudden.
Speaker 10 (26:17):
The Patriots.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
That's like, okay, cover Patriots.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
Play.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
It kind of reminds me of what we were talking
yesterday about guys dropping the ball at the goal line. Like,
if anything, it shows us that if a play like
that goes down and you even have an inkling in
your head that you may have may or may not
have been touched if it was or was not a fumble,
just run all the way to the end zone. I
don't care if it's eighty two yards in the opposite direction.
It's like running through first base even though it was
a drop third strike, Like you just go and commit,
(26:45):
because what if they had eventually said, you're right, that
was a fumble and Miles Jack just spiked the ball
and ended the play, Like, just pick up the ball.
If you have any thought that you should have been touched,
just finished the play and go for six.
Speaker 10 (26:55):
I feel, let's do a great job now, letting things go.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
Yeah, they'll let play. Yeah, that one they blew the whistle.
You gotta let it go. They blew the whistle, and
that's now their coach. Let it go, and then you
can reverse it. But I have If you've got Patriots fatigue, still,
I have the cure for it. Don't roll it. Yeah.
There are two plays in the modern NFL that make
me laugh out loud every single time. The first one
is Sean Taylor hitting and Brian Mormon and the Pro Bowl.
(27:18):
It's my favorite play in history. The second one is
this Las Vegas twenty twenty two Patriots Raiders. This is
the most hilarious, unnest, go ahead, roll it unnecessary thing
I've ever seen. End of the game. Mac Jones Patriots guys.
The game is tied. They don't want to go to overtime.
So you see Remondre. He's gonna eventually laddle to Jacoby Myers,
(27:41):
who decides to throw it back to mac Jones. No,
Chaydler Jones stiff arms Mac Jones and the game is over.
Chaydler Jones the ex Patriot guys. This play has his
own Wikipedia page. It's called the Lunatic Lateral and not
imagine what a terrible decision this was by Jacoby Myers,
who I totally respect. Again, if you're down, you're down one,
(28:05):
give it a try. Who cares you're gonna lose the game?
The game is tied, go to overtime. What are you
doing to Kobe? He throws it across the field. Jones Jones,
It's like, I'll take it Mac Jones, the worst to
tackle attempt of all times, and the game is over.
The Patriots, who are over five hundred at that time,
would go on to miss the playoffs. Mac Jones' career
(28:26):
would spile out of control, and God blessed him. He's
doing great with San Francisco. Now look at Belichick. It's
it's probably the worst loss in the last fifty years.
That last week we saw the Titans Cardinals. That's worse.
That's worse than the guy dropping the ball and all that,
because all you had to do is just go down,
go to overtime, you probably win. It's the Raiders, I'm
sure they'll lose. You throw it back to It's just
some lunatic lateral. I laugh every single time I see it.
Speaker 4 (28:47):
You may be right of that is I say this
every year in free agency, usually a guy will sign
with a team that he killed the year before, Like
we want that guy on this seat.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
Jacoby Meyers been is the opposite of that. He did
sign with the Raiders. That's amazing. Here's what you got,
good out, you got a good eye forty four. Like
a bad little kid. He's been like a little back here?
What the that is? You won't really card you Rother
(29:22):
been in one of those little football camp and you
picked up one in the back here. It's like rustling
with him. That wasn't the forty one? Like I have
been a little sit back then going. It's like a
bad little kid. Crown football for.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
You, Scotta was like it was five yards.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
Tomorrow Davis one of the sweetest, soft spoken guys that
shows up at our table very often. But when he
is trying to take you down, Oh he's gonna call you.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
A bad little kid at a football camp. Manti. You
know both of those characters. What do you make of
this scene with Tomorrow?
Speaker 10 (29:53):
To your point, Jamie doesn't really say much. You know,
he's very very polite, very very respectful, very humble, but
when he is on a football field, as most football
players do there's this switch that he makes and he
starts to yap a little bit. But I can't help
but think that someone like Cam Scataboo has earned that
kind of respect because you don't go back and forth
with somebody that you don't respect. And then Camscataboo has
(30:14):
garnered that respect from a lot of defenders and some
Saints last week too, So I'm looking forward to seeing
what he does against the Eagles.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
Hi, you what, anything, One thing I was never good like.
Speaker 4 (30:22):
I played the high school level, college level mantai all
the way up the NFL. Maybe this changes that you
go up the ranks, But one thing I was never
good at was after the game, Like I still wanted
to knock the guy's head off. So for those guys
to be trash talking in the middle of the game
and then showing the respect after the game, that is one.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
Of the things that I admire incredibly.
Speaker 4 (30:42):
To be able to put all that emotion aside and
the brotherhood of the NFL player there despite all the
trash talk that's going on there.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
It's one of the things that I love.
Speaker 4 (30:51):
And to be able to see it in a clip
here and to be able to hear it is pretty incredible.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
I'd like to see it against the Eagles tonight. It
is a big knight for Camp Scattaboo. I know they're
one and four, they're out of things right now, but
nationally televised game, standalone game at home, in front of
your rival, this is a big opportunity for Camp scattbo
People want to love him. He represents something in football
that's old school, in old fashioned. I think they are
gonna be kids who want to be Camp scattedbo for Halloweens,
like I think they're gonna be adults who want to
(31:15):
be Camp Scatboo for Halloween. Give them something to be
excited about tonight. It's a fun, fun story winner. Lose
one hundred yards or five yards like I would love
one like great just truck job from Scataboo, lats to night,
just anything, one great stiff arm, just give us a
little feeling. It's something to be excited about in New Jersey. Mic. Yeah,
you know.
Speaker 4 (31:32):
This is also, as you say that, an interesting platform
for the Eagles because as a defending Super Bowl champ,
they've played five games and what one's been in a
prime time only one so far? Like if it was
the Chiefs, And we've seen the Chiefs multiple times already
before already now, so this is them into the national spotlight,
away from that one o'clock window that they've been in
a bunch here. So they've got so much going on
(31:53):
right now that everybody's going to be watching it now,
and everything seems to be magnified when these things happen
in this game.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
It's SPI is really super important for the Eagles.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
And I had to mention that is the adult that
wants to be Camp Scattaboo on the show US today,
Kyle Brant, are you telling us that you were going
to dress up as Camp Scattaboo for Halloween?
Speaker 1 (32:09):
No, that's that's that's my nephew. That's blood. I don't
dress up as my own family members like I I
somebody else should do that. My son wants to do it,
go ahead, but technically that's his cousin. So outside of
the Brandt family, that's a great costume. You just need
a forty four jersey, you need a beard, and just
anybody who comes across you just run over them and
take their candy. That's that's a simple costume.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
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My Favorite Murder is a true crime comedy podcast hosted by Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark. Each week, Karen and Georgia share compelling true crimes and hometown stories from friends and listeners. Since MFM launched in January of 2016, Karen and Georgia have shared their lifelong interest in true crime and have covered stories of infamous serial killers like the Night Stalker, mysterious cold cases, captivating cults, incredible survivor stories and important events from history like the Tulsa race massacre of 1921. My Favorite Murder is part of the Exactly Right podcast network that provides a platform for bold, creative voices to bring to life provocative, entertaining and relatable stories for audiences everywhere. The Exactly Right roster of podcasts covers a variety of topics including historic true crime, comedic interviews and news, science, pop culture and more. Podcasts on the network include Buried Bones with Kate Winkler Dawson and Paul Holes, That's Messed Up: An SVU Podcast, This Podcast Will Kill You, Bananas and more.
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