Hour One of the Good Morning Football Podcast begins with hosts Jamie Erdahl, Jane Slater, Cynthia Frelund, and Kelsey Conway discussing what the most interest story line is entering training camp. Then they answer if Josh Allen is the best QB in the NFL. Jane Skinner Goodell joins the show and talks about Roger Goodell’s famous chair, her relationship with football, and the NFL international schedule. CBS sideline reporter Tracy Wolfson joins the show and talks about her interview with Jayden Daniels following his Hail Mary win, the potential pairing of the Steelers and Aaron Rodgers, and how the Ravens can get past the Chiefs.
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
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Speaker 2 (00:11):
Everybody, Good Morning Football. That's right, Thursday, June fifth. Look
at the crew that we have today. Of course, you
know I'm Jamie, Jane Slater, Cynthia Freeland, Kelsey Conway. She's
getting the Kyle Brand treatment in New York. Kelsey, we
got to find out what Kyle's left behind. If there's
trash on the floor, random orange here are there?
Speaker 3 (00:27):
It's GMFB. It's a Thursday.
Speaker 4 (00:29):
Ron Good Morning Football.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
That's right, GMFB. Welcome in, everybody. It's a Thursday in
early June, which means we have so much to talk
about in the NFL. It's just the gift that keeps
on giving, right Cynthia, Cynthia Freeland, Jay and Slater, Kelsey
Conway's in New York. Listen, you know. Kelsey's writing from
the Cincinnati Bengal. She writes for This is Aday Inquirer
in USA Today, James all over the beat for the
Cowboys and the Saints, and frankly anywhere we need to
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send her for NFL Network. She's on the field since
Freeland usually Sunday mornings.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
You get the treatment.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
And all over our fantasy coverage as an analytics expert.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
How is your alarm clock today? Actually I was pretty excited.
Speaker 5 (01:18):
Yeah, I mean, I'm going to take you a little
bit behind the curtain. And Jane slept over at my house,
so we had a really good time. The dogs were up,
everyone was I mean, my dogs were basically like not
giving her any personal space.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
Oh great, it was perfect. How are you Jane good?
Speaker 6 (01:33):
I mean, first of all, I love coming out and
seeing my NFL family when I get to come out
here for the LA assignment. But yeah, absolute treat. You know,
it's been since college, you've lived with a roommate, and
you were doing your homework at the dinner table for
the night before. Because we know we've got eyeballs on
us today, you know. And so I think it was
Gail King who once said our margin of error is
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so small, so we made sure that we brought you
some hot takes in it.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Yeah, let's go, Kelsey. First time on GMFB, first time
sitting in that chair in New York. Can you give
us a flavor of Cincinnati? What is the thought of
GMFB and Cincinnati and the coverage that the Bengals get.
Speaker 7 (02:09):
Big fans of the show, and that's why it took
cool for me to be on with you guys today
because I watch the show every morning. So I'm thrilled
to be on and holding down the fort here in
New York and so far, I Kyle's kept it pretty
clean good. I have a positive report back here from
New York.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Oh Man, we will decide if we're going to share
that with him, guys. In true GMFB territory, we have
a brand new segment to try out on everybody today,
So it sounds like the perfect.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Time to do it.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
We're gonna go four down territory. We're ripping through four topics.
Everyone's got to have a take. As Jane mentioned in
our first course, we got to start in Cleveland with
the quarterback room. It's just the lowest hanging fruit. The
Browns enter this offseason working out five quarterbacks on their
roster after drafting both Still and Gabriel and Shador Sanders
and the third of the fifth round, respectively. Their offensive
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coordinator Tommy Reese says the quarterback room has pretty good
competition so far.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
I mean, yeah, you can see them all when in
the job, I think, right and so in terms of
the competition. We're so early in the process. We're so
early in evaluating that. Yeah, I think, you know, we
have a good group of guys that a continue to
push one another and by the time September rolls around,
will be ready to go.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
I'm supposed to say it's written here. There's been a
lot of buzz around the door. I mean, that's like
the underestimation of the century right now. All we sometimes
could talk about over draft weekend most shador Sanders, and
then you put them into this Browns quarterback room and
immediately they jumped to the front of the class in
terms of most interesting storyline heading into training camp. But
is it that is the question, Jane Brown's quarterback room.
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Is it the most interesting storyline to you heading into
training camp?
Speaker 6 (03:42):
Liss I had the Saints draft, which of course they
needed a quarterback looking up to this, and then you've
got one of the more curious storylines that I've covered
in my tenures here at the NFL Network, and that
was Carr coming out the week before telling us that
he's dealing.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
With his shoulder situation. He had the risk situation.
Speaker 6 (04:01):
And then they don't know what they're getting down there.
And so yeah, there was a that Shador Sanders might fall.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
To them in the second round. Instead they take Tyler Shuck.
Speaker 6 (04:09):
So let's talk about the quarterback groom, because for me,
the Saints is the most intriguing Jamie, Yes, I mean
this was a five and twelve team. You've got Shook
coming in here. Who Look, he's a rookie. It took
him in the second round. He played forty two games
across seven years, so he's done some injury last year.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
Except I were talking about this last night. Well, he
at least played all the last season, right, But you
don't really know what you're getting fro him.
Speaker 6 (04:32):
Spencer Rattler had real live game experience. This was a
guy that had four touchdowns, five interceptions in a passer
rating seventy point four. Not exactly something to write home about.
And then after that you've got Jake Hayner. And then
they went out and got a guy from Iowa Western
Community College.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
This Hunter Decker's kid.
Speaker 6 (04:50):
Basically, what I'm saying is we've got a lot of questions.
There doesn't seem like there is a clear guy there.
And then that's what has me wondering if as you
look at we get in a training camp.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
Are they going to bring in a vent?
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Yeah, So that for me is the most At least
when we list off the names in the Cleveland quarterback room,
we know them. I have a hard time with Hunter Deckers.
I didn't know that about Iowa Western Community College. We
might find out you might get the Kurt Warner treatment.
You never know, Kelsey Conway, what you got? Is it
the Browns or is it something else?
Speaker 7 (05:19):
So the question was the most interesting storyline heading into
training camp?
Speaker 3 (05:23):
And the reason I say no.
Speaker 7 (05:25):
Is because I think it could be the most interesting
storyline at the end of the season. But right now,
just looking at the fact that they went out and
signed Kenny Pickett, Joe Flacco is still there on the team,
and then them drafting Dylan Gabriel in the third round,
for me, I just don't see a scenario in which
he beats out all three of them by week one.
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But having covered the AFC North now for four years,
there's always something interesting that goes on in Cleveland, typically by.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
The end of the season.
Speaker 7 (05:55):
So if you asked me, is this going to be
the most interesting storyline of the NFL season? I could
maybe say yes because I do think there is a
scenario and which she could make waves by the end
of the season, but not heading into training camp simply
just because of the three guys in front of him
on the depth chart.
Speaker 6 (06:12):
I just also wonder if there's a little bit of
Cleveland Brown quarterback fatigue, as we I feel like every
year we head into training give it to somebody euple
of seasons.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
That is an interesting storyline. So maybe that's why it's
not top of mind. At least it's a good point.
Speaker 5 (06:25):
Well, the storyline that we heard last year I think
actually is great this year too, but just different team,
potentially different player, and.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
That's Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 5 (06:32):
It's because it is are you really going to get
with Mason Rudolph there?
Speaker 3 (06:37):
You invested in.
Speaker 5 (06:38):
DK, You've brought in an absolute like that's that's a
real wide receiver that you have real intentions for, and
now you don't necessarily you're trusting handshake decision?
Speaker 3 (06:49):
Yeah? Probably is that going to be what happens? I
don't know, right?
Speaker 6 (06:53):
And when are you going to install the offense too? Right, Cynthia,
I mean, isn't this team really need that?
Speaker 3 (06:59):
He might not, but you might have.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (07:02):
Yeah, So to me, this one again. You have an
aging defense, but still a great defense. You have a
guy who's never had a moving season in Mike Tomlin.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
So are you really going is it really going to
be Mason Ruff?
Speaker 5 (07:13):
No one believes that you're waiting on this handshake, and
I think yet again, Aaron Rodgers has us with bated breath.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
Yeah, to talk about it.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
The Steelers aren't a funk, and it's like that awkward.
We love being five hundred. We make it the playoffs.
We don't make it very far in the playoff's funk,
and you have to imagine Mike Tomlin wants to work him.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
His way out of that.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
All right, So turn to the AFC East in the
spirit of making sure we understand everything that's going on
in the NFL. We understood that in terms of tabloid photos,
Josh Allen got married last week, and apparently in the
Buffalo Bill's quarterback return to practice fresh off his wedding
last week, and congratulations to them. Despite coming off his
first MVP season, his offensive coordinator Joe Brady says, Josh
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Allen is still in pursuit of more.
Speaker 8 (07:54):
What I love about Josh is Josh is his demeanor,
his approach, his mindset. I mean, it is as impressive
as it gets and it's infectious around that around the team.
So when he walks into the building, you don't see
a guy that you don't feel the guy that just
won the MVP last year, and it's like, oh, you
know what, like I'm good. You feel a guy that's
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hungry and is trying to figure out ways to get
better and embracing his new teammates and trying to get
them on the same page as him. And you know,
it's it's impressive and I feel like you're in a
year after year, I'm having to do a little less
because he's doing more, and that's what's impressive about you
know him as as a leader.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
That's a good way to put it.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
He's doing more, So I have to work less.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
That's a good job to have.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
If you're Josh Allen's oc tea and up second down,
Josh Allen, Jane is he the best quarterback in the
NFL right now after winning MVP?
Speaker 6 (08:44):
Well, perfect segue, and we're talking about doing more with less.
I think you have to consider both Josh Allen and
Patrick Mahomes and discussion for who is I think an
MVP at that position, and for me, I think I
give the edge to a Patrick Mahomes when you look
at the records. For the most part, these guys are
pretty similar, but it's the postseason and when we talk
about judging a quarterback, fortunately it's their postseason success. And
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I think more often than not, when we look at
Patrick Mahomes, he finds ways to win. Particularly when you
looked at two Super Bowls. His achilles hill has been
his offensive line. If they could actually get him some
help with offensive line and he could have more consistency
in his wide receiver court, I find myself wondering how
many more Super Bowls might he had. I just feel
like they've given him a lot of weapons. Josh Allen
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in Buffalo, specifically his offensive line that makes his job
so much easier.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
So for me, I don't look at him being the
MVP heading in the season. I still look at Patrick
Mahomes in the class of his own. Hmmm, tell us
what you got.
Speaker 7 (09:43):
It's such a hard question because there's a category of
four guys right now in the AFC, and that's Josh Allen,
Patrick Mahomes, Joe Burrow, and Lamar Jackson. So really trying
to nitpick and say, you know who's better than one?
I think it goes back to what Jane said, and
that's postseason success, right And that's why for me, it's
hard to say that Josh Allen is the best quarterback
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right now because he hasn't gotten the Bills over the
Hump to the Super Bowl, to even win an AFC
championship game. And that's why I think in order for
us to be able to say and give him the
throne over Mahomes and even Burrow because he's actually been
able to get the Bengals to Super Bowl, I think
he's got to win that AFC championship game and get
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the Bills to a super Bowl and then we'd be
able to say it. But Josh Allen's a fantastic player.
I love watching him play. So I think that group
of four right there is the cream of the crop,
and they all happen to be in the AFC.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
So it's tough.
Speaker 5 (10:37):
We can have this conversation and not bring up Lamar Jackson.
We just can't because obviously he's right up there. You
talk about winning a super Bowl, we know we get it.
Playoffs absolutely, but I mean, look at the AFC. It's
so spoiled with all of these great quarterbacks in general.
But I would say when you're looking at a Josh Allen,
it will take that win in the playoffs to put
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him over the top. For how we all think about it.
As long as Patrick Mahomes is there, and as long
as that amazing record of like what happens between the
Bills and the Chiefs in the postseason keeps playing out,
then you're going to have the case where Patrick's just.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
Going to be quote unquote better.
Speaker 5 (11:17):
But maybe Lamar Jackson impresses all of us this year,
and maybe this is the Ravens year, and then we
can stop worrying about like who's the best one, and
we can have fun conversations about, Okay, who's going to
win next?
Speaker 3 (11:27):
Because we like to look forward.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
It's wild to me that we started four down territory
looking at the Cleveland Browns quarterback room. Yet you still
have to the quarterbacks in that division that Kelsey mentioned
that are part of this conversation in Joe Burrow and
Lamar Jackson, Kelsey, I want to ask you really quickly.
Joe Burrow said this week that if I had just
played better last year, we would have actually won. I
don't think it was physically possible for that quarterback to
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play any better than he did last year. What's the
tune in Cincinnati when it comes to Burrow and being
a part of this conversation in best quarterback right now?
He is a guy that's beat Mahomes in the postseason.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
He is a guy that's already been to a super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
So when it comes to stacking up with the rest
of these quarterbacks, what's the mood in Cincinnati.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
About your guy? Well?
Speaker 7 (12:10):
I think about what Jane said, and that's doing more
with less.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
And that's why.
Speaker 7 (12:14):
When you do think about the MVP conversation and how
close Joe was to winning that last year, you talk
about sometimes the problems the Bengals have had on their
offensive line. I mean go back to that Super Bowl
offensive line and the defense last year was not good
enough in Cincinnati, and he was still able to have
the season that he was. But what he's saying about
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not playing well enough. He was fantastic last year, but
he did struggle in Week one and that was just
because he was coming off of his first healthy training camp.
He had that risk injury that he was still working out,
So I think him saying that is a little bit
of him taking onus of his performance in Week one
when they had that terrible loss against the Patriots that
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you could argue kept them out of the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
But I think that's just kind of how he.
Speaker 7 (13:00):
Is as a leader and one of those people that
always has to find ways to motive himself, similar to
what Josh Allen is saying here, and that is I
want to be so perfect that I think it still
bugs him that how bad he played in that Week
one performance in that home loss. So for the Bengals,
I mean, it's really going to come down to can
they play better in September so they can be in
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contention with the Bills and Josh Allen and the Chiefs
and Mahomes in actually being able to contend for a
one seed or even a two seed and finally be
able to host a playoff game in Cincinnati. So I
think that's the next step for the Bengals and Burrow,
and we'll see if they'll be able to do it,
and probably start with them playing better in the month
of September.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
Good news, Kelsey.
Speaker 5 (13:41):
When we were doing schedule release, I looked at their
odds for winning the first two games. You know, that's
been an achilles y how those first two games have
been a real problem, and this year they're very heavily
favored in both. I'm just the sort of great but
in my model, there we go.
Speaker 6 (13:54):
I think the AFC North quarterbacks look at that schedule
a little bit harder than maybe some of the other
divisions because of the level and the challenges, and you
have to sort of pace yourself throughout the season.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
And the defenses within that division too.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
It's wild and the Bengals, I'm sure with Trey Henderson,
would like to figure that out and qualify for that.
All right, let's go elsewhere. The AFC East. The Dolphins
that one of their wide receivers, Jalen Wadle, is feeling
pretty good. At OTA's yesterday, he said his quarterback is
feeling fine and he's looking good as well with Tua.
Speaker 9 (14:23):
Now he's excited to play man.
Speaker 10 (14:26):
I think all of us are.
Speaker 7 (14:27):
He looked confident coming out with you know, m Swag
got dyeing his hairs most stuff, so.
Speaker 10 (14:35):
He looked like he's just eager to play man.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
So I guess having dye in your hair qualifies for swag.
That's great for a lot of women in life. Tiyeah,
we're gonna tea down. I don't know what he's talking about.
What do you consider a successful season, Cynthia, when you
are qualifying this for Tua.
Speaker 5 (14:50):
Well, I think that being able to execute Mike McDaniel's
plan requires that quick pace, the rhythm, the timing, the
things that we know worked the season he was healthy.
Now when you have a replaced left tackle, life gets
very difficult.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
That pressure becomes faster.
Speaker 5 (15:05):
And even though Mike McDaniel's known for the rhythm, like
I talked about in the timing, and obviously you have
very speedy receivers and you leverage that speed and you
leverage your running backs, I still think it won't be
a successful season if they can't get in rhythm quickly
adjusting to offensive line changes.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
I'm a big offensive line person in general.
Speaker 5 (15:23):
I will talk about the big guys, so I'm blue
in the face, and to me, that will be the
single most important thing for Tua and.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
Probably for the Dolphins as a whole for their schedule.
Speaker 6 (15:31):
And yet people get so mad when teams draft an
offensive lineman in the first n I mean, it's teams
will tell you they don't.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
Draw, they don't always don't get mad. Yeah, they but
like Tyler Brooks, well the fans get crazy about it.
Speaker 6 (15:43):
But you know the argument is during the season, offensive
linemen don't grow on trees.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
You can't just go out and find them as free agents.
Speaker 6 (15:49):
So if your team took an offensive lineman in the
first round, this was a good thing.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
Folks. Kelsey, what do you think for Tua?
Speaker 7 (15:56):
You know, the Dolphins and Tua are such an interesting
team to me because it kind of feels like every
year we're talking about them, especially with Mike McDaniels as
their coach, to be like, is this going to be
the year that they finally take the next step? So
when I think about Tua and what would make a
successful season for him, I go back to what we've
spent a lot of time talking about on the show already,
and that is playoff success, but playoff success.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
On the road.
Speaker 7 (16:20):
It is time for the Dolphins to win.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
A playoff game on the road.
Speaker 7 (16:24):
Obviously, we're looking at this game that you remember how
cold it was in Kansas City, Tua being zero win
five on the road in games under forty degrees at
some point we talked about the gauntlet in the AFC
with Josh Allen, Mahomes, Burrow, Lamar. All four of those
quarterbacks play for teams that when you're playing in the
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month of January and February, it's going to be cold there.
So it's time for Tua and the Dolphins to quiet
all the doubters.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
And the noise.
Speaker 7 (16:53):
And the only way for them to be able to
do that is go on the road and win a
game in a cold weather place and show that, you know,
them not being able to win in places that aren't
South Florida is some thing that they can do now.
So I think that will be for me what determines
the success of this Dolphins team and to us specifically.
Speaker 6 (17:10):
Gosh, you know, the way you address that is you
just find a way to do training camp and like
Antarctica or something. Oh no, that way you figure out
things out, You get them acclimated, or maybe they have
those ice boxes like they have at training camp, and
then they start doing this.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
A huge one, just a huge one. You know, you're
welcome innovation.
Speaker 6 (17:28):
Mine's a little bit more obvious, Jamie, in the sense
that for me, just a successful season for twoa unfortunately,
is one where he stays healthy.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
Yeah, he's only done it one time.
Speaker 6 (17:36):
And I have to wonder psychologically how that affects the team,
knowing that there is a possibility that your quarterback could
get hurt. And I wonder how it affects the way
that Mike plans these games. Does it limit the playbook?
In other words, you don't want him using his legs
as much as you normally do. And so for me,
obviously quarterbacks are judged by their postseason success. It's hard
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to do that when he's finding himself injured. So for me,
it's just very easy. Successful season for two is staying healthy.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
I love it all right, Well, all great football series.
We're throwing an audible. Is this called four down Territory.
We're not going to get to our fourth topic because
our guest is available to us, so we want to
get to break. On GMFB, we have Jane Goodell joining
the show today on GMFB.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
She is a part has her hand in a lot
of documentaries.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
She's produced a Lifetime of Sundays, which is a film
that celebrates the.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
League's female owners.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
We got to talk to Jane about that and the
fact that she within her household has some serious fans
in her twin daughters and what.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
That might look like.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
We're back on a really cool Thursday on GMFB and
a friend of our show is coming on now. Jane Skinner, goodell,
good morning to you.
Speaker 3 (18:42):
Jane. How are you?
Speaker 11 (18:43):
Good morning?
Speaker 9 (18:44):
Nice to see everybody love the selection on the desk today, Jamie,
thank you, thank you.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
So we're happy to have you, and we're all happy
to be here today talking everything in the NFL. But
first and foremost, Jane, we always assess our guests, especially
in the commercial, on their backdrops where they decide to
represent themselves on GMFB. Where have you chosen to seat
yourself today to discuss all things NFL?
Speaker 3 (19:06):
Where are you? Yeah?
Speaker 9 (19:08):
I hope I get a ten out of ten for
this room writer. No, don't tell me. I'm actually in
the Commissioner's man cave. This your viewers may remember during
April of twenty twenty during COVID, this is where he
did the NFL draft for three days and we're like,
gradually he started falling asleep. People thought he was drinking
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too much. He actually wasn't. I think he was just
like punched roun.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
But this is it.
Speaker 9 (19:36):
This is the chair that went the following year to
Cleveland when the draft was in person, and then they
sent it to Canton, so like thousands of people sat
in it, and they called and said, Okay, we're sending
it back, and I'm like, if I want it in
my house, but you know what, we wiped it down
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and I can see why he spends thirteen hours on
Sundays in this chair.
Speaker 11 (20:01):
It's pretty comfy.
Speaker 6 (20:03):
It reminds me of the that remember the chair from
Married with Children that used to sit.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
In all the time.
Speaker 6 (20:09):
It just looks so comfortable, and I'm like, you, I
like an aesthetic in my home.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
I might let that one play. Yep, that's a good one.
Keep it.
Speaker 11 (20:16):
Yeah, Well, it.
Speaker 9 (20:17):
Sits in the basement, so it's necessarily like main part
of my decor. But we've given it a pass. But
it's pretty nice this morning.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
So Kelsey, what you got?
Speaker 7 (20:30):
Jane, You've been a football fan long before.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
You met your husband.
Speaker 7 (20:34):
Can you tell us a little bit about your relationship
with the game of football and your dad?
Speaker 3 (20:39):
Yeah?
Speaker 9 (20:39):
Sure, you know it's funny. People ask me all the
time do you actually like football? Do you understand football?
Speaker 11 (20:44):
And I think it would be very hard to live the.
Speaker 9 (20:47):
Life that we live if I didn't have such passion
for it. I'm really lucky. I grew up in Chicago.
I'm the youngest of three. I have two older brothers,
the only girl, and my dad got there season tickets.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
So that's me.
Speaker 4 (21:01):
So this is me.
Speaker 11 (21:05):
My nose is bright red because I was crying.
Speaker 9 (21:08):
The story goes that I wasn't allowed in the picture
with the football boys my brothers, and so they let
me in at the last minute. You can see the
space between I wasn't really part.
Speaker 11 (21:19):
Of the team. I always wanted to be part of the.
Speaker 9 (21:21):
Team, and so my dad got season tickets to the Bears,
which he still has in seventy two. My dad's watch
turning eighty seven next week, so it's been We've had
them in our family for a very long time.
Speaker 11 (21:33):
And you know, I.
Speaker 9 (21:34):
Often say like I didn't know the difference, but being
a little girl in Soldier Field in the seventies, it
was such an anomaly. And now we're so lucky.
Speaker 10 (21:43):
We go to.
Speaker 9 (21:43):
Games and there are women and girls of all ages,
and it's just it's been so fun to watch that evolution.
But yeah, so I grew up very intense he was
a pretty tough task master, like there were a lot.
Speaker 11 (21:56):
Of losing seasons in the seventies.
Speaker 9 (21:58):
Is Christly incredibly cold there during and I remember when
year making the playoffs and my feet were like so cold,
and he took my boots off and started rubbing them
for the second half.
Speaker 11 (22:13):
And then the next.
Speaker 9 (22:14):
Week he came back and said, I bought you socks
with had like nine volt batteries in them.
Speaker 11 (22:19):
Because not doing this anymore.
Speaker 9 (22:23):
You get the fourth ticket, you got to, you know,
suck it up. So that I'm very lucky, But I actually,
you know, thinking back, I think my mom is the
most intense fan. She's almost eighty seven too, and she's
a little bit like Virginia McCaskey, who, like you sit
at a game of her and she doesn't want to
hear the chitter chatter.
Speaker 11 (22:42):
She wants to focus on the game. My mom's a
little like that.
Speaker 9 (22:45):
But I think she actually gave me that fourth ticket
as a little girl. She wanted me to kind of
have that experience. So sorry, Mom, thank you.
Speaker 4 (22:54):
I love that.
Speaker 5 (22:56):
Speaking of family, you have twin girls, and we hear
their vikings and Seahawks fans. They're really passionate about the game, right,
we hear this a little bit about how that dynamic
plays out in your family.
Speaker 11 (23:07):
Yeah, so my brothers tease me a lot.
Speaker 9 (23:10):
Like how did you give birth to a Viking? No
Marris fans, but we laugh that. I guess the rivalry
would be worse if we were a Packers fan.
Speaker 4 (23:21):
I don't know.
Speaker 9 (23:23):
It's incredible to watch though there. Well Jamie knows this
because she has met my Viking's daughter, and my daughter
walked away after talking like such Vikings minutia with Jamie
that that was amazing Someboddy to relate to me as
a female. But it's really really fun because the four
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of us do a lot of games together and so
we kind of get to pick a game to go
to each season, and sometimes our teams will play each other.
Speaker 11 (23:53):
We'll do that, which is.
Speaker 9 (23:55):
We're pretty supportive of the others until you know we're
playing each other. So, but it's really really fun to have.
Like my girl gang, I love to watch too. It's
just a it's a really fun dynamic. And this man
cave used to be years ago when they were little.
It was literally half American girl doll, half stuffed animals,
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half pink plastic and then.
Speaker 11 (24:21):
Half footballs and bigies.
Speaker 9 (24:24):
So did Roger has kind of moved that out as
they've gotten older, so now it's fully masculine.
Speaker 5 (24:31):
Also smart that she picked an indoor stadium, just saying, yeah,
so you don't have that boot problem.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
No one needs socks, right, that's true.
Speaker 11 (24:38):
Yeah, how about that stadium too.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
Oh it's incredible best. I mean, I'm I just I love.
Speaker 6 (24:43):
Too that Roger gets to view the game through that lens.
You know, the fact that his daughters are such a
big fans, that you're such a big fan, that your
mother was a fan. You can kind of see a
little bit of that footprint across the league. Speaking of footprints, though, Dane,
one of the big announcements last months was that there
were going to be seven international games.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
You've attended a lot of them. What do you think.
Speaker 6 (25:02):
About how this international series is expanding and where do
you see it going?
Speaker 3 (25:08):
And to add on to that, you know, I.
Speaker 6 (25:10):
Did Brazil last year and I was so fascinated with
It's not like they're coming and showing up just for
the Green Bay Packers or just showing up for the
opposing teams. You will see so many jerseys in the
stands what stood out for you?
Speaker 9 (25:24):
Yeah, So when my kids were little, I think the
first game we went to it Wembley was like fifteen
years ago or something, and we would count on the
way into the stadium because when do you ever see
that that rainbow of jerseys.
Speaker 11 (25:35):
You wouldn't see it in the stets, right, So we'd
count and see.
Speaker 9 (25:37):
Like could we get all thirty two teams? That definitely
stands out. And by the way, what a perch to
be able to go see these games. I'm the luckiest person,
and I think that stands out in a you see
the rainbow of jerseys be the sophistication of the fans.
Tooteen years ago, you could tell they didn't they wanted
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to be there, the game sold out. They didn't really
understand the game as much. But now it's a completely
different experience. Demand is obviously intense and very much there.
You know Rogers talking about sixteen games in the next
five years, Australia in twenty six. I don't know, it's
pretty exciting, and I know there are a lot of logistics.
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I give the NFL team who manages these events. They
are like kind of mini super Bowls in each of
these cities. Peter O'Reilly and his team, I give them
such credit for this. It's they do an incredible job.
You feel like, you know, in the United States, like
a game in so Far is going to be very
different from a game in Nashville. And that's what it
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feels like there. You feel the city that you're in
and that experience is just it's such a blast, and
everybody in that stadium is having a blast too, so
it's the energy is kind of unmatched.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
Jane, really excellent to have you on GMFB this morning. Seriously,
thank you so much for being so gracious with your time.
We appreciate it so much.
Speaker 11 (26:58):
Great to see you guys have fun.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
Absolutely, Jane Skidrigdell, everybody joining GMFP for the first time
talking all coverage, and you know she watches on Sundays,
probably that lady on the sideline, CBS Sports Lead, NFL
sideline reporder Tracy Wilson, fresh off her Emmy win, talking Commanders, Rogers,
maybe a harbar or two. GMFB next on a Thursday.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
Comes down to one last play.
Speaker 4 (27:27):
And it's gonna be getting longer by the second.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
You're all the way back at the thirty yard line.
Speaker 4 (27:33):
Now you can step into it. Here comes the.
Speaker 3 (27:35):
Hail Mary with the game on the line and.
Speaker 4 (27:39):
The balls talk talk, It's America. It's still a crowd.
Oh my goodness, he's so cool, come and collected.
Speaker 3 (27:50):
How are you right now? Can you describe that final play?
Nothing but god, man, nothing Magon?
Speaker 10 (27:58):
What is it about his commander's team?
Speaker 4 (28:02):
Yeah? Keep fighting, man, we keep fighting. We had a
great locker room, great brotherhood.
Speaker 5 (28:06):
Man.
Speaker 7 (28:07):
Nobody else I'll rather go to war.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
Jade and Daniels truly look so unbothered.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
Seconds after that hail Mary, one of the biggest plays
that to find the twenty twenty four season, and there's
Tracy Wolfson standing there trying to get to the bottom
of the moment from the NFL and CBS joining GMFB.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
Tracy, great to see you, my friends.
Speaker 10 (28:24):
I love being on. Thank you so much. I heard
Jane earlier the girl gang. I mean, this is really awesome,
So thanks for having.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
Me, absolutely so, Tracy.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
You are a part of so many moments like that
in the regular season, yet you are able to capture
it so perfectly that one specifically, you have to treat
it so differently because that's.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
A rookie right there.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
When you were walking up to Jaden, What was going
through your mind? It's often a question that we asked,
but how are you approaching that interview?
Speaker 10 (28:53):
Well, first off, you just want the emotion. You're just
teeing them up. You want to get too complicated. And
I just was in shock at his reaction. And we
can go back to the other hail Mary I did,
which is Rogers to back in twenty fifteen. Sorry, Cynthia,
but I mean it was that one. Rogers was elated.
He compared it to winning the super Bowl. Here, Jayden
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Daniels is just so calm about it. And like you said,
he's a rookie, you don't really know. Is our first
time covering him. But that's what stands out about Jayden Daniels.
It's just another day at the office for him. He's
wise beyond his years. I think we all saw that
in his first season. It was really incredible and all
you want.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
Is to see that emotion.
Speaker 10 (29:34):
He was like, I know it was going to be.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
All good all along.
Speaker 5 (29:38):
Maybe you're like the indicator of when a hail Mary
is going to work because he's brought up at Aaron
Rodgers jail Mary, and.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
You cover a lot of games in Pittsburgh.
Speaker 5 (29:46):
How do you feel about the potential marriage between Aaron
Rodgers and the Pittsburgh Steelers. Do you think it's going
to be magical? Are there going to be lots of
hail Mary's? What do you think is gonna happen?
Speaker 10 (29:54):
I don't know, talk about potential, I mean, is it
going to happen? I think we all we all kind
of want it to happen, especially for the Steelers. They're
so important to league. I know for CBS we have
a lot of Steelers game potentially on our schedule. I
love being around Aaron Rodgers. I enjoy covering him, although
it didn't get much of a chance to get when
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he was with the Jets, considering they weren't good enough
to be on our air all the time. But I
will say I would like to see him. I think
it would be a tremendous marriage for them. Certainly with
Mike Tomlin as a head coach, he seems to make
anything works. There's always success there in Pittsburgh. They have
a better defense, of course, and then you know they
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have weapons, and so just throw Aaron Rodgers out there.
But the problem is the longer it takes the longer
this isn't going to work. They certainly need time to
get out there and gel and I'm sure there's frustration
in the locker room. And then you have Mason Rudolph
and who's going to start in place if Rogers isn't
There So a lot of question marks still in Pittsburgh.
And I won't believe it until I actually see it
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when Rogers shows up there.
Speaker 7 (30:59):
Tracy, First of all, congratulations on your Emmy.
Speaker 3 (31:02):
That's incredible.
Speaker 11 (31:03):
I got to start by that.
Speaker 7 (31:04):
But when I was watching that clip of the Hail Mary,
I couldn't help but think that that Commander's team this
year reminded me so much of the twenty twenty one
Bengals team where they kind of came out of nowhere
and you had the young quarterback in Joe Burrow and
they just went on this magical run and the country
just fell in love with them.
Speaker 3 (31:22):
Did you feel that way?
Speaker 7 (31:23):
And what do you think is going to be happening
this year for the Bengals to take that next step
and get back into AFC postseason contention after two years
of missing the playoffs.
Speaker 10 (31:35):
Yeah, I mean, certainly that was a magical year for them.
They really it was kind of Joe Burrow's coming out party.
It put them on the map. They were a threat
every time they stepped on the field. They were a
threat to the Chiefs. You know, I think what's been
the issues there on Kelsey, you know better than anyone
being around this team, is these slow starts these last
two seasons have certainly set them back. It hurts morale
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in a locker room. It's not a great feeling going
in behind the eight ball already, especially in a difficult
division and with a difficult schedule.
Speaker 3 (32:06):
And you know, I love.
Speaker 10 (32:07):
Joe Burrow taking the blame for this season. He had
probably the best season of his career. He was in
the MVP talks. It is certainly not Joe Burrow. I
think there needs to be an improvement on the defensive side.
I don't believe it was lou Anarumo's fault either. I
think it's providing the playmakers out there on the defensive
side of the ball to give them some balance. And
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I think that's what we haven't seen from the Cincinnati team.
And hopefully we do al Golden coming in, but you
need to have the right players there. Certainly on the
offensive side, they don't really seem to have some issues there.
They just need to be able to have more balance
and they certainly can't start from behind coming into this
season with the schedule they have, and certainly in that
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AFC North that is so challenging. As we talked with Pittsburgh,
if potentially they get Rogers, then you of course have
Baltimore and Lamar Jackson to deal with, and then the
rest of that schedule where you'll be playing you know
those o they're difficult teams on the road. So I
think that's the key for the Bengals this year is
certainly getting off to that quick start.
Speaker 3 (33:11):
Justice for Lou. We love to see Lou get some of.
Speaker 6 (33:13):
The shine in an Indian half's situation for him there.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
We love Oil.
Speaker 6 (33:17):
We also love the Kansas City Chiefs, and I know
you cover them a lot, but are they the top
dogs in the FC? Because I have to wonder, Tracy,
what is it going to take for Lamar Jackson and
Harball to get over the hump and a hoisted trophy?
When we talk about how tricky that just one division is.
Speaker 10 (33:34):
Yeah, yeah, it's it's hard. I mean you talk both
sides of the ball right there, because when you talk
about the Chiefs, and yes, I feel like I should
have an apartment there either there all the time. But
I do love covering them. They're one of my favorite
teams to be around, and they are always the team
to beat. I mean, how can they not be. And
I think they're more motivated than ever coming off a
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Super Bowl loss.
Speaker 3 (33:56):
And when you think.
Speaker 10 (33:57):
About them, you know, Patrick Mahomes, you know, comes off frustrated, right,
didn't feel like he played his best. You know, they
didn't have I have really the weapons all together at
the wide receiver position. You talk about Rashid Rice and
Xavier Worthy in Hollywood Brown, they didn't play one game together.
If they can stay healthy, they can be out on
that field. And then you throw in Travis Kelce, who
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seems to be reinvigorated. I mean, this team again is
going to be that team to beat. And then you
talk about Steve Spagnola and what he's built on the
defensive side of the ball, and certainly that's been the
reason for these last two years that they've been able
to get so far, not necessarily what Patrick Mahomes in
this offense has done. And of course they've committed more
to the run game, something Andy Reid doesn't necessarily love,
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but he knew that he had to embrace. And I
love how this team is made up. So again, they
certainly are going to be the hunted. Yes, he talk
about Lamar Jackson, talk about Baltimore. I'd love to see
them take the next step. I really saw a maturity
from Lamar Jackson this year, and not only on the
field and his progressions, but even off the field. And
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I think they're just waiting to take that next step.
Always what it's gonna come down to. I'm sure Cincinnati
will be in the mix again, no doubt. And of
course Buffalo. We've got those four you know, big teams
that always wind up colliding come playoff time, and you know,
throwing at Denver, maybe at Houston, and who knows what
Pittsburgh does if they do get Rogers. But it should
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be really an exciting season in the AFC.
Speaker 3 (35:25):
Tracy, you're all over it this morning.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
We appreciate it so much, and of course that is
why a couple of weeks back you won your second
consecutive Emmy for Outstanding Sideline Reporter. I mean, we've got
one of those trophies up there.
Speaker 3 (35:40):
Where's the other.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
One, we got to get the bam bam and the
backdrop for these interviews where it is.
Speaker 3 (35:47):
Don't hide it, trick is coming this. Yeah, exactly, terracy.
It's just your coverage is just so thorough and great.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
And what I often say about being on television, specifically
in this role, is like people have to like to
want to be around you. You have to be a
likable person for Lamar, for James Daniels, for these coaches
to come up and want to talk to you repeatedly.
You just said you should have a condo in Kansas
City because of how many production meetings you might have
to sit with Andy Reid or Patrick Mahomes. What's something
that people might not know about the intricacies of this
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job and the one that you carry that people covet
so much.
Speaker 10 (36:20):
I think there's two things. I think one thing is
you just pointed out Jamie that the relationships you build
with these coaches and players make your job easier and
allow you to do a better job when you get
onto the sidelines, when you're in these meetings, the trust
factor they have with you, certainly the interview process becomes
a little bit easier. You get better soundbites out of it.
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That trust and building that trust and keeping that trust
is so important, and it develops over the years. Certainly
twenty years in this business, eleven years in the NFL.
It takes time. And even the relationships I built in
college when I covered college football and the NANCC have
carried over to the NFL. That certainly helped as well.
And I think second, it's really the stuff you do
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behind the scenes. Of course, that prep work we know
going INCA games, but when we're on the field, it's
not just those thirty second bites. It's not the five
times you're on the air. But it's everything you're doing
during the game, behind the scenes, the communication you have
with the booth, everything I'm telling Jim and Tony, maybe
off camera in a time out, in a commercial break,
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everything I'm talking to my producer Jim Rickoff or my
director Mike Arnold. I might be saying this is happening
over here, make sure you get a camera over here.
This is what the official just said, This is what
the quarterback told the offensive line. A lot of that stuff.
First off, you can't get on the air. You don't
have time, it's not the right time.
Speaker 4 (37:40):
Of a game.
Speaker 10 (37:41):
You might be in a red zone. They might have
just called time out. We might be going back to
commercial break. Who knows, so all of that communication. There's
so much I'm doing behind the scenes that no one
really sees that's really important to the broadcast.
Speaker 6 (37:54):
And it's so hard to see the whole field, our
ground level. I don't think people realize how hard that
job is.
Speaker 3 (38:00):
And you're back by the end of the day when
you hear it too.
Speaker 10 (38:03):
But I'm maneuver everywhere, and I just do you learn,
like as you know and Jamie you know this really well,
is like you learn where to be at what time.
And Patrick Mahomes throws an interception, You're going right over
to Mahomes to see his reaction and.
Speaker 3 (38:18):
You're just hoping you don't miss.
Speaker 10 (38:20):
Something because you can't be on both sidelines at once.
And so I think that comes with feel and comes
with overtime of being in this business. But I love
that part. I'm like a you know, investigative reporter down there.
Speaker 2 (38:32):
Yes, it's a classic, Like the play's going this way,
and I swear Tracy's eyes probably go to the head
coach or the coordinator, like she's watching for the reaction.
Speaker 3 (38:39):
Everybody else is watching the ball go that way. But
that's what makes you great.
Speaker 2 (38:42):
Tracy Wilson, thank you so much for coming and always
a pleasure to discuss the NFL and your entirety of
your coverage. Tracy, you're a great there she has two
time Emmy winner Tracy Wilson,
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Speaker 2 (00:11):
Everybody, Good Morning Football. That's right, Thursday, June fifth. Look
at the crew that we have today. Of course, you
know I'm Jamie, Jane Slater, Cynthia Freeland, Kelsey Conway. She's
getting the Kyle Brand treatment in New York. Kelsey, we
got to find out what Kyle's left behind. If there's
trash on the floor, random orange here are there?
Speaker 3 (00:27):
It's GMFB. It's a Thursday.
Speaker 4 (00:29):
Ron Good Morning Football.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
That's right, GMFB. Welcome in, everybody. It's a Thursday in
early June, which means we have so much to talk
about in the NFL. It's just the gift that keeps
on giving, right Cynthia, Cynthia Freeland, Jay and Slater, Kelsey
Conway's in New York. Listen, you know. Kelsey's writing from
the Cincinnati Bengal. She writes for This is Aday Inquirer
in USA Today, James all over the beat for the
Cowboys and the Saints, and frankly anywhere we need to
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send her for NFL Network. She's on the field since
Freeland usually Sunday mornings.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
You get the treatment.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
And all over our fantasy coverage as an analytics expert.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
How is your alarm clock today? Actually I was pretty excited.
Speaker 5 (01:18):
Yeah, I mean, I'm going to take you a little
bit behind the curtain. And Jane slept over at my house,
so we had a really good time. The dogs were up,
everyone was I mean, my dogs were basically like not
giving her any personal space.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
Oh great, it was perfect. How are you Jane good?
Speaker 6 (01:33):
I mean, first of all, I love coming out and
seeing my NFL family when I get to come out
here for the LA assignment. But yeah, absolute treat. You know,
it's been since college, you've lived with a roommate, and
you were doing your homework at the dinner table for
the night before. Because we know we've got eyeballs on
us today, you know. And so I think it was
Gail King who once said our margin of error is
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so small, so we made sure that we brought you
some hot takes in it.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Yeah, let's go, Kelsey. First time on GMFB, first time
sitting in that chair in New York. Can you give
us a flavor of Cincinnati? What is the thought of
GMFB and Cincinnati and the coverage that the Bengals get.
Speaker 7 (02:09):
Big fans of the show, and that's why it took
cool for me to be on with you guys today
because I watch the show every morning. So I'm thrilled
to be on and holding down the fort here in
New York and so far, I Kyle's kept it pretty
clean good. I have a positive report back here from
New York.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Oh Man, we will decide if we're going to share
that with him, guys. In true GMFB territory, we have
a brand new segment to try out on everybody today,
So it sounds like the perfect.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Time to do it.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
We're gonna go four down territory. We're ripping through four topics.
Everyone's got to have a take. As Jane mentioned in
our first course, we got to start in Cleveland with
the quarterback room. It's just the lowest hanging fruit. The
Browns enter this offseason working out five quarterbacks on their
roster after drafting both Still and Gabriel and Shador Sanders
and the third of the fifth round, respectively. Their offensive
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coordinator Tommy Reese says the quarterback room has pretty good
competition so far.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
I mean, yeah, you can see them all when in
the job, I think, right and so in terms of
the competition. We're so early in the process. We're so
early in evaluating that. Yeah, I think, you know, we
have a good group of guys that a continue to
push one another and by the time September rolls around,
will be ready to go.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
I'm supposed to say it's written here. There's been a
lot of buzz around the door. I mean, that's like
the underestimation of the century right now. All we sometimes
could talk about over draft weekend most shador Sanders, and
then you put them into this Browns quarterback room and
immediately they jumped to the front of the class in
terms of most interesting storyline heading into training camp. But
is it that is the question, Jane Brown's quarterback room.
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Is it the most interesting storyline to you heading into
training camp?
Speaker 6 (03:42):
Liss I had the Saints draft, which of course they
needed a quarterback looking up to this, and then you've
got one of the more curious storylines that I've covered
in my tenures here at the NFL Network, and that
was Carr coming out the week before telling us that
he's dealing.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
With his shoulder situation. He had the risk situation.
Speaker 6 (04:01):
And then they don't know what they're getting down there.
And so yeah, there was a that Shador Sanders might fall.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
To them in the second round. Instead they take Tyler Shuck.
Speaker 6 (04:09):
So let's talk about the quarterback groom, because for me,
the Saints is the most intriguing Jamie, Yes, I mean
this was a five and twelve team. You've got Shook
coming in here. Who Look, he's a rookie. It took
him in the second round. He played forty two games
across seven years, so he's done some injury last year.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
Except I were talking about this last night. Well, he
at least played all the last season, right, But you
don't really know what you're getting fro him.
Speaker 6 (04:32):
Spencer Rattler had real live game experience. This was a
guy that had four touchdowns, five interceptions in a passer
rating seventy point four. Not exactly something to write home about.
And then after that you've got Jake Hayner. And then
they went out and got a guy from Iowa Western
Community College.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
This Hunter Decker's kid.
Speaker 6 (04:50):
Basically, what I'm saying is we've got a lot of questions.
There doesn't seem like there is a clear guy there.
And then that's what has me wondering if as you
look at we get in a training camp.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
Are they going to bring in a vent?
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Yeah, So that for me is the most At least
when we list off the names in the Cleveland quarterback room,
we know them. I have a hard time with Hunter Deckers.
I didn't know that about Iowa Western Community College. We
might find out you might get the Kurt Warner treatment.
You never know, Kelsey Conway, what you got? Is it
the Browns or is it something else?
Speaker 7 (05:19):
So the question was the most interesting storyline heading into
training camp?
Speaker 3 (05:23):
And the reason I say no.
Speaker 7 (05:25):
Is because I think it could be the most interesting
storyline at the end of the season. But right now,
just looking at the fact that they went out and
signed Kenny Pickett, Joe Flacco is still there on the team,
and then them drafting Dylan Gabriel in the third round,
for me, I just don't see a scenario in which
he beats out all three of them by week one.
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But having covered the AFC North now for four years,
there's always something interesting that goes on in Cleveland, typically by.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
The end of the season.
Speaker 7 (05:55):
So if you asked me, is this going to be
the most interesting storyline of the NFL season? I could
maybe say yes because I do think there is a
scenario and which she could make waves by the end
of the season, but not heading into training camp simply
just because of the three guys in front of him
on the depth chart.
Speaker 6 (06:12):
I just also wonder if there's a little bit of
Cleveland Brown quarterback fatigue, as we I feel like every
year we head into training give it to somebody euple
of seasons.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
That is an interesting storyline. So maybe that's why it's
not top of mind. At least it's a good point.
Speaker 5 (06:25):
Well, the storyline that we heard last year I think
actually is great this year too, but just different team,
potentially different player, and.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
That's Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 5 (06:32):
It's because it is are you really going to get
with Mason Rudolph there?
Speaker 3 (06:37):
You invested in.
Speaker 5 (06:38):
DK, You've brought in an absolute like that's that's a
real wide receiver that you have real intentions for, and
now you don't necessarily you're trusting handshake decision?
Speaker 3 (06:49):
Yeah? Probably is that going to be what happens? I
don't know, right?
Speaker 6 (06:53):
And when are you going to install the offense too? Right, Cynthia,
I mean, isn't this team really need that?
Speaker 3 (06:59):
He might not, but you might have.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (07:02):
Yeah, So to me, this one again. You have an
aging defense, but still a great defense. You have a
guy who's never had a moving season in Mike Tomlin.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
So are you really going is it really going to
be Mason Ruff?
Speaker 5 (07:13):
No one believes that you're waiting on this handshake, and
I think yet again, Aaron Rodgers has us with bated breath.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
Yeah, to talk about it.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
The Steelers aren't a funk, and it's like that awkward.
We love being five hundred. We make it the playoffs.
We don't make it very far in the playoff's funk,
and you have to imagine Mike Tomlin wants to work him.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
His way out of that.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
All right, So turn to the AFC East in the
spirit of making sure we understand everything that's going on
in the NFL. We understood that in terms of tabloid photos,
Josh Allen got married last week, and apparently in the
Buffalo Bill's quarterback return to practice fresh off his wedding
last week, and congratulations to them. Despite coming off his
first MVP season, his offensive coordinator Joe Brady says, Josh
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Allen is still in pursuit of more.
Speaker 8 (07:54):
What I love about Josh is Josh is his demeanor,
his approach, his mindset. I mean, it is as impressive
as it gets and it's infectious around that around the team.
So when he walks into the building, you don't see
a guy that you don't feel the guy that just
won the MVP last year, and it's like, oh, you
know what, like I'm good. You feel a guy that's
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hungry and is trying to figure out ways to get
better and embracing his new teammates and trying to get
them on the same page as him. And you know,
it's it's impressive and I feel like you're in a
year after year, I'm having to do a little less
because he's doing more, and that's what's impressive about you
know him as as a leader.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
That's a good way to put it.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
He's doing more, So I have to work less.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
That's a good job to have.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
If you're Josh Allen's oc tea and up second down,
Josh Allen, Jane is he the best quarterback in the
NFL right now after winning MVP?
Speaker 6 (08:44):
Well, perfect segue, and we're talking about doing more with less.
I think you have to consider both Josh Allen and
Patrick Mahomes and discussion for who is I think an
MVP at that position, and for me, I think I
give the edge to a Patrick Mahomes when you look
at the records. For the most part, these guys are
pretty similar, but it's the postseason and when we talk
about judging a quarterback, fortunately it's their postseason success. And
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I think more often than not, when we look at
Patrick Mahomes, he finds ways to win. Particularly when you
looked at two Super Bowls. His achilles hill has been
his offensive line. If they could actually get him some
help with offensive line and he could have more consistency
in his wide receiver court, I find myself wondering how
many more Super Bowls might he had. I just feel
like they've given him a lot of weapons. Josh Allen
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in Buffalo, specifically his offensive line that makes his job
so much easier.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
So for me, I don't look at him being the
MVP heading in the season. I still look at Patrick
Mahomes in the class of his own. Hmmm, tell us
what you got.
Speaker 7 (09:43):
It's such a hard question because there's a category of
four guys right now in the AFC, and that's Josh Allen,
Patrick Mahomes, Joe Burrow, and Lamar Jackson. So really trying
to nitpick and say, you know who's better than one?
I think it goes back to what Jane said, and
that's postseason success, right And that's why for me, it's
hard to say that Josh Allen is the best quarterback
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right now because he hasn't gotten the Bills over the
Hump to the Super Bowl, to even win an AFC
championship game. And that's why I think in order for
us to be able to say and give him the
throne over Mahomes and even Burrow because he's actually been
able to get the Bengals to Super Bowl, I think
he's got to win that AFC championship game and get
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the Bills to a super Bowl and then we'd be
able to say it. But Josh Allen's a fantastic player.
I love watching him play. So I think that group
of four right there is the cream of the crop,
and they all happen to be in the AFC.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
So it's tough.
Speaker 5 (10:37):
We can have this conversation and not bring up Lamar Jackson.
We just can't because obviously he's right up there. You
talk about winning a super Bowl, we know we get it.
Playoffs absolutely, but I mean, look at the AFC. It's
so spoiled with all of these great quarterbacks in general.
But I would say when you're looking at a Josh Allen,
it will take that win in the playoffs to put
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him over the top. For how we all think about it.
As long as Patrick Mahomes is there, and as long
as that amazing record of like what happens between the
Bills and the Chiefs in the postseason keeps playing out,
then you're going to have the case where Patrick's just.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
Going to be quote unquote better.
Speaker 5 (11:17):
But maybe Lamar Jackson impresses all of us this year,
and maybe this is the Ravens year, and then we
can stop worrying about like who's the best one, and
we can have fun conversations about, Okay, who's going to
win next?
Speaker 3 (11:27):
Because we like to look forward.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
It's wild to me that we started four down territory
looking at the Cleveland Browns quarterback room. Yet you still
have to the quarterbacks in that division that Kelsey mentioned
that are part of this conversation in Joe Burrow and
Lamar Jackson, Kelsey, I want to ask you really quickly.
Joe Burrow said this week that if I had just
played better last year, we would have actually won. I
don't think it was physically possible for that quarterback to
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play any better than he did last year. What's the
tune in Cincinnati when it comes to Burrow and being
a part of this conversation in best quarterback right now?
He is a guy that's beat Mahomes in the postseason.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
He is a guy that's already been to a super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
So when it comes to stacking up with the rest
of these quarterbacks, what's the mood in Cincinnati.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
About your guy? Well?
Speaker 7 (12:10):
I think about what Jane said, and that's doing more
with less.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
And that's why.
Speaker 7 (12:14):
When you do think about the MVP conversation and how
close Joe was to winning that last year, you talk
about sometimes the problems the Bengals have had on their
offensive line. I mean go back to that Super Bowl
offensive line and the defense last year was not good
enough in Cincinnati, and he was still able to have
the season that he was. But what he's saying about
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not playing well enough. He was fantastic last year, but
he did struggle in Week one and that was just
because he was coming off of his first healthy training camp.
He had that risk injury that he was still working out,
So I think him saying that is a little bit
of him taking onus of his performance in Week one
when they had that terrible loss against the Patriots that
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you could argue kept them out of the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
But I think that's just kind of how he.
Speaker 7 (13:00):
Is as a leader and one of those people that
always has to find ways to motive himself, similar to
what Josh Allen is saying here, and that is I
want to be so perfect that I think it still
bugs him that how bad he played in that Week
one performance in that home loss. So for the Bengals,
I mean, it's really going to come down to can
they play better in September so they can be in
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contention with the Bills and Josh Allen and the Chiefs
and Mahomes in actually being able to contend for a
one seed or even a two seed and finally be
able to host a playoff game in Cincinnati. So I
think that's the next step for the Bengals and Burrow,
and we'll see if they'll be able to do it,
and probably start with them playing better in the month
of September.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
Good news, Kelsey.
Speaker 5 (13:41):
When we were doing schedule release, I looked at their
odds for winning the first two games. You know, that's
been an achilles y how those first two games have
been a real problem, and this year they're very heavily
favored in both. I'm just the sort of great but
in my model, there we go.
Speaker 6 (13:54):
I think the AFC North quarterbacks look at that schedule
a little bit harder than maybe some of the other
divisions because of the level and the challenges, and you
have to sort of pace yourself throughout the season.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
And the defenses within that division too.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
It's wild and the Bengals, I'm sure with Trey Henderson,
would like to figure that out and qualify for that.
All right, let's go elsewhere. The AFC East. The Dolphins
that one of their wide receivers, Jalen Wadle, is feeling
pretty good. At OTA's yesterday, he said his quarterback is
feeling fine and he's looking good as well with Tua.
Speaker 9 (14:23):
Now he's excited to play man.
Speaker 10 (14:26):
I think all of us are.
Speaker 7 (14:27):
He looked confident coming out with you know, m Swag
got dyeing his hairs most stuff, so.
Speaker 10 (14:35):
He looked like he's just eager to play man.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
So I guess having dye in your hair qualifies for swag.
That's great for a lot of women in life. Tiyeah,
we're gonna tea down. I don't know what he's talking about.
What do you consider a successful season, Cynthia, when you
are qualifying this for Tua.
Speaker 5 (14:50):
Well, I think that being able to execute Mike McDaniel's
plan requires that quick pace, the rhythm, the timing, the
things that we know worked the season he was healthy.
Now when you have a replaced left tackle, life gets
very difficult.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
That pressure becomes faster.
Speaker 5 (15:05):
And even though Mike McDaniel's known for the rhythm, like
I talked about in the timing, and obviously you have
very speedy receivers and you leverage that speed and you
leverage your running backs, I still think it won't be
a successful season if they can't get in rhythm quickly
adjusting to offensive line changes.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
I'm a big offensive line person in general.
Speaker 5 (15:23):
I will talk about the big guys, so I'm blue
in the face, and to me, that will be the
single most important thing for Tua and.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
Probably for the Dolphins as a whole for their schedule.
Speaker 6 (15:31):
And yet people get so mad when teams draft an
offensive lineman in the first n I mean, it's teams
will tell you they don't.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
Draw, they don't always don't get mad. Yeah, they but
like Tyler Brooks, well the fans get crazy about it.
Speaker 6 (15:43):
But you know the argument is during the season, offensive
linemen don't grow on trees.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
You can't just go out and find them as free agents.
Speaker 6 (15:49):
So if your team took an offensive lineman in the
first round, this was a good thing.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
Folks. Kelsey, what do you think for Tua?
Speaker 7 (15:56):
You know, the Dolphins and Tua are such an interesting
team to me because it kind of feels like every
year we're talking about them, especially with Mike McDaniels as
their coach, to be like, is this going to be
the year that they finally take the next step? So
when I think about Tua and what would make a
successful season for him, I go back to what we've
spent a lot of time talking about on the show already,
and that is playoff success, but playoff success.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
On the road.
Speaker 7 (16:20):
It is time for the Dolphins to win.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
A playoff game on the road.
Speaker 7 (16:24):
Obviously, we're looking at this game that you remember how
cold it was in Kansas City, Tua being zero win
five on the road in games under forty degrees at
some point we talked about the gauntlet in the AFC
with Josh Allen, Mahomes, Burrow, Lamar. All four of those
quarterbacks play for teams that when you're playing in the
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month of January and February, it's going to be cold there.
So it's time for Tua and the Dolphins to quiet
all the doubters.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
And the noise.
Speaker 7 (16:53):
And the only way for them to be able to
do that is go on the road and win a
game in a cold weather place and show that, you know,
them not being able to win in places that aren't
South Florida is some thing that they can do now.
So I think that will be for me what determines
the success of this Dolphins team and to us specifically.
Speaker 6 (17:10):
Gosh, you know, the way you address that is you
just find a way to do training camp and like
Antarctica or something. Oh no, that way you figure out
things out, You get them acclimated, or maybe they have
those ice boxes like they have at training camp, and
then they start doing this.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
A huge one, just a huge one. You know, you're
welcome innovation.
Speaker 6 (17:28):
Mine's a little bit more obvious, Jamie, in the sense
that for me, just a successful season for twoa unfortunately,
is one where he stays healthy.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
Yeah, he's only done it one time.
Speaker 6 (17:36):
And I have to wonder psychologically how that affects the team,
knowing that there is a possibility that your quarterback could
get hurt. And I wonder how it affects the way
that Mike plans these games. Does it limit the playbook?
In other words, you don't want him using his legs
as much as you normally do. And so for me,
obviously quarterbacks are judged by their postseason success. It's hard
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to do that when he's finding himself injured. So for me,
it's just very easy. Successful season for two is staying healthy.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
I love it all right, Well, all great football series.
We're throwing an audible. Is this called four down Territory.
We're not going to get to our fourth topic because
our guest is available to us, so we want to
get to break. On GMFB, we have Jane Goodell joining
the show today on GMFB.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
She is a part has her hand in a lot
of documentaries.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
She's produced a Lifetime of Sundays, which is a film
that celebrates the.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
League's female owners.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
We got to talk to Jane about that and the
fact that she within her household has some serious fans
in her twin daughters and what.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
That might look like.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
We're back on a really cool Thursday on GMFB and
a friend of our show is coming on now. Jane Skinner, goodell,
good morning to you.
Speaker 3 (18:42):
Jane. How are you?
Speaker 11 (18:43):
Good morning?
Speaker 9 (18:44):
Nice to see everybody love the selection on the desk today, Jamie,
thank you, thank you.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
So we're happy to have you, and we're all happy
to be here today talking everything in the NFL. But
first and foremost, Jane, we always assess our guests, especially
in the commercial, on their backdrops where they decide to
represent themselves on GMFB. Where have you chosen to seat
yourself today to discuss all things NFL?
Speaker 3 (19:06):
Where are you? Yeah?
Speaker 9 (19:08):
I hope I get a ten out of ten for
this room writer. No, don't tell me. I'm actually in
the Commissioner's man cave. This your viewers may remember during
April of twenty twenty during COVID, this is where he
did the NFL draft for three days and we're like,
gradually he started falling asleep. People thought he was drinking
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too much. He actually wasn't. I think he was just
like punched roun.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
But this is it.
Speaker 9 (19:36):
This is the chair that went the following year to
Cleveland when the draft was in person, and then they
sent it to Canton, so like thousands of people sat
in it, and they called and said, Okay, we're sending
it back, and I'm like, if I want it in
my house, but you know what, we wiped it down
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and I can see why he spends thirteen hours on
Sundays in this chair.
Speaker 11 (20:01):
It's pretty comfy.
Speaker 6 (20:03):
It reminds me of the that remember the chair from
Married with Children that used to sit.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
In all the time.
Speaker 6 (20:09):
It just looks so comfortable, and I'm like, you, I
like an aesthetic in my home.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
I might let that one play. Yep, that's a good one.
Keep it.
Speaker 11 (20:16):
Yeah, Well, it.
Speaker 9 (20:17):
Sits in the basement, so it's necessarily like main part
of my decor. But we've given it a pass. But
it's pretty nice this morning.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
So Kelsey, what you got?
Speaker 7 (20:30):
Jane, You've been a football fan long before.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
You met your husband.
Speaker 7 (20:34):
Can you tell us a little bit about your relationship
with the game of football and your dad?
Speaker 3 (20:39):
Yeah?
Speaker 9 (20:39):
Sure, you know it's funny. People ask me all the
time do you actually like football? Do you understand football?
Speaker 11 (20:44):
And I think it would be very hard to live the.
Speaker 9 (20:47):
Life that we live if I didn't have such passion
for it. I'm really lucky. I grew up in Chicago.
I'm the youngest of three. I have two older brothers,
the only girl, and my dad got there season tickets.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
So that's me.
Speaker 4 (21:01):
So this is me.
Speaker 11 (21:05):
My nose is bright red because I was crying.
Speaker 9 (21:08):
The story goes that I wasn't allowed in the picture
with the football boys my brothers, and so they let
me in at the last minute. You can see the
space between I wasn't really part.
Speaker 11 (21:19):
Of the team. I always wanted to be part of the.
Speaker 9 (21:21):
Team, and so my dad got season tickets to the Bears,
which he still has in seventy two. My dad's watch
turning eighty seven next week, so it's been We've had
them in our family for a very long time.
Speaker 11 (21:33):
And you know, I.
Speaker 9 (21:34):
Often say like I didn't know the difference, but being
a little girl in Soldier Field in the seventies, it
was such an anomaly. And now we're so lucky.
Speaker 10 (21:43):
We go to.
Speaker 9 (21:43):
Games and there are women and girls of all ages,
and it's just it's been so fun to watch that evolution.
But yeah, so I grew up very intense he was
a pretty tough task master, like there were a lot.
Speaker 11 (21:56):
Of losing seasons in the seventies.
Speaker 9 (21:58):
Is Christly incredibly cold there during and I remember when
year making the playoffs and my feet were like so cold,
and he took my boots off and started rubbing them
for the second half.
Speaker 11 (22:13):
And then the next.
Speaker 9 (22:14):
Week he came back and said, I bought you socks
with had like nine volt batteries in them.
Speaker 11 (22:19):
Because not doing this anymore.
Speaker 9 (22:23):
You get the fourth ticket, you got to, you know,
suck it up. So that I'm very lucky, But I actually,
you know, thinking back, I think my mom is the
most intense fan. She's almost eighty seven too, and she's
a little bit like Virginia McCaskey, who, like you sit
at a game of her and she doesn't want to
hear the chitter chatter.
Speaker 11 (22:42):
She wants to focus on the game. My mom's a
little like that.
Speaker 9 (22:45):
But I think she actually gave me that fourth ticket
as a little girl. She wanted me to kind of
have that experience. So sorry, Mom, thank you.
Speaker 4 (22:54):
I love that.
Speaker 5 (22:56):
Speaking of family, you have twin girls, and we hear
their vikings and Seahawks fans. They're really passionate about the game, right,
we hear this a little bit about how that dynamic
plays out in your family.
Speaker 11 (23:07):
Yeah, so my brothers tease me a lot.
Speaker 9 (23:10):
Like how did you give birth to a Viking? No
Marris fans, but we laugh that. I guess the rivalry
would be worse if we were a Packers fan.
Speaker 4 (23:21):
I don't know.
Speaker 9 (23:23):
It's incredible to watch though there. Well Jamie knows this
because she has met my Viking's daughter, and my daughter
walked away after talking like such Vikings minutia with Jamie
that that was amazing Someboddy to relate to me as
a female. But it's really really fun because the four
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of us do a lot of games together and so
we kind of get to pick a game to go
to each season, and sometimes our teams will play each other.
Speaker 11 (23:53):
We'll do that, which is.
Speaker 9 (23:55):
We're pretty supportive of the others until you know we're
playing each other. So, but it's really really fun to have.
Like my girl gang, I love to watch too. It's
just a it's a really fun dynamic. And this man
cave used to be years ago when they were little.
It was literally half American girl doll, half stuffed animals,
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half pink plastic and then.
Speaker 11 (24:21):
Half footballs and bigies.
Speaker 9 (24:24):
So did Roger has kind of moved that out as
they've gotten older, so now it's fully masculine.
Speaker 5 (24:31):
Also smart that she picked an indoor stadium, just saying, yeah,
so you don't have that boot problem.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
No one needs socks, right, that's true.
Speaker 11 (24:38):
Yeah, how about that stadium too.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
Oh it's incredible best. I mean, I'm I just I love.
Speaker 6 (24:43):
Too that Roger gets to view the game through that lens.
You know, the fact that his daughters are such a
big fans, that you're such a big fan, that your
mother was a fan. You can kind of see a
little bit of that footprint across the league. Speaking of footprints, though, Dane,
one of the big announcements last months was that there
were going to be seven international games.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
You've attended a lot of them. What do you think.
Speaker 6 (25:02):
About how this international series is expanding and where do
you see it going?
Speaker 3 (25:08):
And to add on to that, you know, I.
Speaker 6 (25:10):
Did Brazil last year and I was so fascinated with
It's not like they're coming and showing up just for
the Green Bay Packers or just showing up for the
opposing teams. You will see so many jerseys in the
stands what stood out for you?
Speaker 9 (25:24):
Yeah, So when my kids were little, I think the
first game we went to it Wembley was like fifteen
years ago or something, and we would count on the
way into the stadium because when do you ever see
that that rainbow of jerseys.
Speaker 11 (25:35):
You wouldn't see it in the stets, right, So we'd
count and see.
Speaker 9 (25:37):
Like could we get all thirty two teams? That definitely
stands out. And by the way, what a perch to
be able to go see these games. I'm the luckiest person,
and I think that stands out in a you see
the rainbow of jerseys be the sophistication of the fans.
Tooteen years ago, you could tell they didn't they wanted
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to be there, the game sold out. They didn't really
understand the game as much. But now it's a completely
different experience. Demand is obviously intense and very much there.
You know Rogers talking about sixteen games in the next
five years, Australia in twenty six. I don't know, it's
pretty exciting, and I know there are a lot of logistics.
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I give the NFL team who manages these events. They
are like kind of mini super Bowls in each of
these cities. Peter O'Reilly and his team, I give them
such credit for this. It's they do an incredible job.
You feel like, you know, in the United States, like
a game in so Far is going to be very
different from a game in Nashville. And that's what it
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feels like there. You feel the city that you're in
and that experience is just it's such a blast, and
everybody in that stadium is having a blast too, so
it's the energy is kind of unmatched.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
Jane, really excellent to have you on GMFB this morning. Seriously,
thank you so much for being so gracious with your time.
We appreciate it so much.
Speaker 11 (26:58):
Great to see you guys have fun.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
Absolutely, Jane Skidrigdell, everybody joining GMFP for the first time
talking all coverage, and you know she watches on Sundays,
probably that lady on the sideline, CBS Sports Lead, NFL
sideline reporder Tracy Wilson, fresh off her Emmy win, talking Commanders, Rogers,
maybe a harbar or two. GMFB next on a Thursday.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
Comes down to one last play.
Speaker 4 (27:27):
And it's gonna be getting longer by the second.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
You're all the way back at the thirty yard line.
Speaker 4 (27:33):
Now you can step into it. Here comes the.
Speaker 3 (27:35):
Hail Mary with the game on the line and.
Speaker 4 (27:39):
The balls talk talk, It's America. It's still a crowd.
Oh my goodness, he's so cool, come and collected.
Speaker 3 (27:50):
How are you right now? Can you describe that final play?
Nothing but god, man, nothing Magon?
Speaker 10 (27:58):
What is it about his commander's team?
Speaker 4 (28:02):
Yeah? Keep fighting, man, we keep fighting. We had a
great locker room, great brotherhood.
Speaker 5 (28:06):
Man.
Speaker 7 (28:07):
Nobody else I'll rather go to war.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
Jade and Daniels truly look so unbothered.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
Seconds after that hail Mary, one of the biggest plays
that to find the twenty twenty four season, and there's
Tracy Wolfson standing there trying to get to the bottom
of the moment from the NFL and CBS joining GMFB.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
Tracy, great to see you, my friends.
Speaker 10 (28:24):
I love being on. Thank you so much. I heard
Jane earlier the girl gang. I mean, this is really awesome,
So thanks for having.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
Me, absolutely so, Tracy.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
You are a part of so many moments like that
in the regular season, yet you are able to capture
it so perfectly that one specifically, you have to treat
it so differently because that's.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
A rookie right there.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
When you were walking up to Jaden, What was going
through your mind? It's often a question that we asked,
but how are you approaching that interview?
Speaker 10 (28:53):
Well, first off, you just want the emotion. You're just
teeing them up. You want to get too complicated. And
I just was in shock at his reaction. And we
can go back to the other hail Mary I did,
which is Rogers to back in twenty fifteen. Sorry, Cynthia,
but I mean it was that one. Rogers was elated.
He compared it to winning the super Bowl. Here, Jayden
(29:14):
Daniels is just so calm about it. And like you said,
he's a rookie, you don't really know. Is our first
time covering him. But that's what stands out about Jayden Daniels.
It's just another day at the office for him. He's
wise beyond his years. I think we all saw that
in his first season. It was really incredible and all
you want.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
Is to see that emotion.
Speaker 10 (29:34):
He was like, I know it was going to be.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
All good all along.
Speaker 5 (29:38):
Maybe you're like the indicator of when a hail Mary
is going to work because he's brought up at Aaron
Rodgers jail Mary, and.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
You cover a lot of games in Pittsburgh.
Speaker 5 (29:46):
How do you feel about the potential marriage between Aaron
Rodgers and the Pittsburgh Steelers. Do you think it's going
to be magical? Are there going to be lots of
hail Mary's? What do you think is gonna happen?
Speaker 10 (29:54):
I don't know, talk about potential, I mean, is it
going to happen? I think we all we all kind
of want it to happen, especially for the Steelers. They're
so important to league. I know for CBS we have
a lot of Steelers game potentially on our schedule. I
love being around Aaron Rodgers. I enjoy covering him, although
it didn't get much of a chance to get when
(30:15):
he was with the Jets, considering they weren't good enough
to be on our air all the time. But I
will say I would like to see him. I think
it would be a tremendous marriage for them. Certainly with
Mike Tomlin as a head coach, he seems to make
anything works. There's always success there in Pittsburgh. They have
a better defense, of course, and then you know they
(30:35):
have weapons, and so just throw Aaron Rodgers out there.
But the problem is the longer it takes the longer
this isn't going to work. They certainly need time to
get out there and gel and I'm sure there's frustration
in the locker room. And then you have Mason Rudolph
and who's going to start in place if Rogers isn't
There So a lot of question marks still in Pittsburgh.
And I won't believe it until I actually see it
(30:57):
when Rogers shows up there.
Speaker 7 (30:59):
Tracy, First of all, congratulations on your Emmy.
Speaker 3 (31:02):
That's incredible.
Speaker 11 (31:03):
I got to start by that.
Speaker 7 (31:04):
But when I was watching that clip of the Hail Mary,
I couldn't help but think that that Commander's team this
year reminded me so much of the twenty twenty one
Bengals team where they kind of came out of nowhere
and you had the young quarterback in Joe Burrow and
they just went on this magical run and the country
just fell in love with them.
Speaker 3 (31:22):
Did you feel that way?
Speaker 7 (31:23):
And what do you think is going to be happening
this year for the Bengals to take that next step
and get back into AFC postseason contention after two years
of missing the playoffs.
Speaker 10 (31:35):
Yeah, I mean, certainly that was a magical year for them.
They really it was kind of Joe Burrow's coming out party.
It put them on the map. They were a threat
every time they stepped on the field. They were a
threat to the Chiefs. You know, I think what's been
the issues there on Kelsey, you know better than anyone
being around this team, is these slow starts these last
two seasons have certainly set them back. It hurts morale
(31:58):
in a locker room. It's not a great feeling going
in behind the eight ball already, especially in a difficult
division and with a difficult schedule.
Speaker 3 (32:06):
And you know, I love.
Speaker 10 (32:07):
Joe Burrow taking the blame for this season. He had
probably the best season of his career. He was in
the MVP talks. It is certainly not Joe Burrow. I
think there needs to be an improvement on the defensive side.
I don't believe it was lou Anarumo's fault either. I
think it's providing the playmakers out there on the defensive
side of the ball to give them some balance. And
(32:28):
I think that's what we haven't seen from the Cincinnati team.
And hopefully we do al Golden coming in, but you
need to have the right players there. Certainly on the
offensive side, they don't really seem to have some issues there.
They just need to be able to have more balance
and they certainly can't start from behind coming into this
season with the schedule they have, and certainly in that
(32:50):
AFC North that is so challenging. As we talked with Pittsburgh,
if potentially they get Rogers, then you of course have
Baltimore and Lamar Jackson to deal with, and then the
rest of that schedule where you'll be playing you know
those o they're difficult teams on the road. So I
think that's the key for the Bengals this year is
certainly getting off to that quick start.
Speaker 3 (33:11):
Justice for Lou. We love to see Lou get some of.
Speaker 6 (33:13):
The shine in an Indian half's situation for him there.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
We love Oil.
Speaker 6 (33:17):
We also love the Kansas City Chiefs, and I know
you cover them a lot, but are they the top
dogs in the FC? Because I have to wonder, Tracy,
what is it going to take for Lamar Jackson and
Harball to get over the hump and a hoisted trophy?
When we talk about how tricky that just one division is.
Speaker 10 (33:34):
Yeah, yeah, it's it's hard. I mean you talk both
sides of the ball right there, because when you talk
about the Chiefs, and yes, I feel like I should
have an apartment there either there all the time. But
I do love covering them. They're one of my favorite
teams to be around, and they are always the team
to beat. I mean, how can they not be. And
I think they're more motivated than ever coming off a
(33:55):
Super Bowl loss.
Speaker 3 (33:56):
And when you think.
Speaker 10 (33:57):
About them, you know, Patrick Mahomes, you know, comes off frustrated, right,
didn't feel like he played his best. You know, they
didn't have I have really the weapons all together at
the wide receiver position. You talk about Rashid Rice and
Xavier Worthy in Hollywood Brown, they didn't play one game together.
If they can stay healthy, they can be out on
that field. And then you throw in Travis Kelce, who
(34:17):
seems to be reinvigorated. I mean, this team again is
going to be that team to beat. And then you
talk about Steve Spagnola and what he's built on the
defensive side of the ball, and certainly that's been the
reason for these last two years that they've been able
to get so far, not necessarily what Patrick Mahomes in
this offense has done. And of course they've committed more
to the run game, something Andy Reid doesn't necessarily love,
(34:40):
but he knew that he had to embrace. And I
love how this team is made up. So again, they
certainly are going to be the hunted. Yes, he talk
about Lamar Jackson, talk about Baltimore. I'd love to see
them take the next step. I really saw a maturity
from Lamar Jackson this year, and not only on the
field and his progressions, but even off the field. And
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I think they're just waiting to take that next step.
Always what it's gonna come down to. I'm sure Cincinnati
will be in the mix again, no doubt. And of
course Buffalo. We've got those four you know, big teams
that always wind up colliding come playoff time, and you know,
throwing at Denver, maybe at Houston, and who knows what
Pittsburgh does if they do get Rogers. But it should
(35:22):
be really an exciting season in the AFC.
Speaker 3 (35:25):
Tracy, you're all over it this morning.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
We appreciate it so much, and of course that is
why a couple of weeks back you won your second
consecutive Emmy for Outstanding Sideline Reporter. I mean, we've got
one of those trophies up there.
Speaker 3 (35:40):
Where's the other.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
One, we got to get the bam bam and the
backdrop for these interviews where it is.
Speaker 3 (35:47):
Don't hide it, trick is coming this. Yeah, exactly, terracy.
It's just your coverage is just so thorough and great.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
And what I often say about being on television, specifically
in this role, is like people have to like to
want to be around you. You have to be a
likable person for Lamar, for James Daniels, for these coaches
to come up and want to talk to you repeatedly.
You just said you should have a condo in Kansas
City because of how many production meetings you might have
to sit with Andy Reid or Patrick Mahomes. What's something
that people might not know about the intricacies of this
(36:16):
job and the one that you carry that people covet
so much.
Speaker 10 (36:20):
I think there's two things. I think one thing is
you just pointed out Jamie that the relationships you build
with these coaches and players make your job easier and
allow you to do a better job when you get
onto the sidelines, when you're in these meetings, the trust
factor they have with you, certainly the interview process becomes
a little bit easier. You get better soundbites out of it.
(36:41):
That trust and building that trust and keeping that trust
is so important, and it develops over the years. Certainly
twenty years in this business, eleven years in the NFL.
It takes time. And even the relationships I built in
college when I covered college football and the NANCC have
carried over to the NFL. That certainly helped as well.
And I think second, it's really the stuff you do
(37:02):
behind the scenes. Of course, that prep work we know
going INCA games, but when we're on the field, it's
not just those thirty second bites. It's not the five
times you're on the air. But it's everything you're doing
during the game, behind the scenes, the communication you have
with the booth, everything I'm telling Jim and Tony, maybe
off camera in a time out, in a commercial break,
(37:25):
everything I'm talking to my producer Jim Rickoff or my
director Mike Arnold. I might be saying this is happening
over here, make sure you get a camera over here.
This is what the official just said, This is what
the quarterback told the offensive line. A lot of that stuff.
First off, you can't get on the air. You don't
have time, it's not the right time.
Speaker 4 (37:40):
Of a game.
Speaker 10 (37:41):
You might be in a red zone. They might have
just called time out. We might be going back to
commercial break. Who knows, so all of that communication. There's
so much I'm doing behind the scenes that no one
really sees that's really important to the broadcast.
Speaker 6 (37:54):
And it's so hard to see the whole field, our
ground level. I don't think people realize how hard that
job is.
Speaker 3 (38:00):
And you're back by the end of the day when
you hear it too.
Speaker 10 (38:03):
But I'm maneuver everywhere, and I just do you learn,
like as you know and Jamie you know this really well,
is like you learn where to be at what time.
And Patrick Mahomes throws an interception, You're going right over
to Mahomes to see his reaction and.
Speaker 3 (38:18):
You're just hoping you don't miss.
Speaker 10 (38:20):
Something because you can't be on both sidelines at once.
And so I think that comes with feel and comes
with overtime of being in this business. But I love
that part. I'm like a you know, investigative reporter down there.
Speaker 2 (38:32):
Yes, it's a classic, Like the play's going this way,
and I swear Tracy's eyes probably go to the head
coach or the coordinator, like she's watching for the reaction.
Speaker 3 (38:39):
Everybody else is watching the ball go that way. But
that's what makes you great.
Speaker 2 (38:42):
Tracy Wilson, thank you so much for coming and always
a pleasure to discuss the NFL and your entirety of
your coverage. Tracy, you're a great there she has two
time Emmy winner Tracy Wilson,
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