April 24, 2025 • 32 mins
Hour One of the Good Morning Football Podcast begins with hosts Jamie Erdahl, Kyle Brandt, and Tom Pelissero previewing the NFL Draft - is this an unpredictable NFL Draft? Alabama head coach Kalen Deboer joins the show and talks about his players getting drafted, navigating his first season with Alabama following Nick Saban, Jalen Milroe’s comparisons to Lamar Jackson, and Michael Penix Jr’s future in the NFL. Former DL & Super Bowl 31 Champion Sean Jones and talks about the draft being in Green Bay, draft day in 1984, his favorite Reggie White story, and who he’s eyeing for the Packers to draft.
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What a run for GMFB all the way to the
twenty twenty five NFL Draft. Welcome inside everyone. We are
presented by Round Up for Lawn live from Green Bay
ahead of the first draft today, the second round tomorrow,
and the subsequent rounds on Saturday. Look at us go
on a stage in front of the stage where the first.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Round picks are going to walk.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Across the night when they hear their names called by
the Commissioner of the NFL, Roger Goodell, Kyle Tom, Welcome
to Green Bay.
Speaker 5 (01:59):
Thanks Tom. I feel I feel.
Speaker 7 (02:00):
Great's warmer than we thought. It's not currently rainy. We
might have a beautiful fall like day. What might say
football weather.
Speaker 5 (02:07):
I'm into it.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
If you look between our shoulders, you can, I think
see the actual podium in the stage I ran on there.
I don't think I'm supposed to do. There was a
partition that was in front of I just went right
by it. So too late now, Sorry, I'm mister commissioner,
and sorry everybody. I went on. I wanted to do it.
It's very empowering being up there. And you know, there's
a vibe in here right now, and I'm not joking.
There's a vibe of nerves of tension, I think, and
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it's I think we're gonna get into this. There is
so much unknown, Tom, and I'm talking about in your
world that it's palpable around here. We don't know all
here how the picture going to too. I don't even
know if we know after one how it's gonna go.
So we will dissect that but you can feel it.
Aside from that beautiful Midwestern hospitality and all the fried food,
there is nerves right here.
Speaker 5 (02:50):
And I'm actually kind.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Of feeling it. It's as palpable as the chill that's
in the air, and it's crisp enough for Kyle to
be in a T shirt in Wisconsin on a Thursday morning,
the most important Thursday in these young men's lives. Greatness
is on the clock for the twenty twenty five NFL Draft.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
Let's get into it.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
We got to talk about it. Let's go who is
on the clock, and that is the Tennessee Titans. Their
new GM Mike Borgonzi has said the team has come
to a consensus that they are sticking with this pick.
Tom What else are you hearing? After the Titans and
the way this night might go chaos?
Speaker 7 (03:20):
This is the most unproductable draft that I can remember,
in terms of teams not really having a good field,
not just down at the bottom round one, in like
the middle or just outside the top ten.
Speaker 5 (03:32):
Did you say that to all the drafts? Do we
say that every year's really different?
Speaker 7 (03:36):
In a normal draft, there'd be teams to have eighteen
to twenty twenty two first stroung grades on players this year.
You talk to teams just like eight, ten, twelve blue
chip type players, and then there's this big clump of
depending what team, twenty or thirty guys who all could
come off the board in different orders, and nobody quite
knows exactly where the runs are.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
Going to come at different positions.
Speaker 7 (03:55):
So you mentioned it, cam Ward number one, that's the
presumptive pick to the Tennessee Titans at two. The belief
has been within the league that Travis Hunter would be
the pick the Browns, though we also know have gotten
calls about that selection. Jacksonville at five is a team
that potentially could be trying to move up minor standing
is unlikely the Browns actually trade the number two overall pick,
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but if they did, you can burn all those mock
drafts immediately. There are teams that are actively looking to
move down. The Carolina Panthers, I've told them, been making
a lot of calls about moving down from number eight.
So if you're thinking we need to get into the
top ten, you might be able to come into that spot.
Why would Carolina be wanting to move down, Well, they
got a lot of different needs.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
They got a bunch of players great.
Speaker 7 (04:37):
And similarly, if it's a wide receiver or a defensive.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
Tackle, don't matter them. They just need some really good
football players.
Speaker 7 (04:43):
So depending what positions don't come off the board early,
maybe somebody begins to slide. Eight would also be a
spot that if somebody is concerned about the Saints at
nine drafting a quarterback, you would want to get up
ahead of them and make sure that you get your QB.
And then, of course the quarterbacks, that's the biggest story
in every draft, and especially this one. Cam Ward again
at one in all likelihood, but after that, Shadeur Sanders,
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Jackson Dart, Jalen Milroe, who's gonna be in the green room,
maybe even Tyler Shuck. All those names could go in
the first they could all go in.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
The second round.
Speaker 7 (05:16):
And when you talk about Shador Sanders in particular, there's
a really limited number of teams that I think will
particularly be in play Number three at the Giants, number
twenty one at the Steelers, anything else might require somebody
trading up to get Chadur on night one.
Speaker 5 (05:29):
It's awesome stuff.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
We are in Green Bay ahead of the draft, and
as Kyle mentioned, a lot of Fried food. I feel differently.
There's life before the cheese curds I had last night,
and there's life after. That's how I feel about Daniel
Jeremiah's mock draft, like there's life that I know before it,
and then when DJ hits us with his mock draft,
it really feels real.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
Charles Davis the same way.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
These guys are going to be sitting on these sets
for the next three days for NFL Network. So let's
take a look at what Charles and DJ have come
out with in terms of their mock draft.
Speaker 8 (05:55):
CD.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
First, let's go the fascinating part of CD here, and
this is just his top ten, is that he doesn't
have Chadour going in the first round. He's only got
one quarterback going in the first round, and that is
cam Ward number one overall to the Tennessee Titans. The
names are familiar to you when you look at CDs
one through ten, but after that it gets a little chaotic.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
Kyle, Okay, well, I mean listen, the headline from me
again we're talking quarterbacks. Is one quarterback in the entire
first Yeah, that's it. None of those Jackson Darts, no
Jalen Millrose, no Chadors and it's highly viable.
Speaker 5 (06:27):
And then we go to DJs.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Who he's got again, Cam Travis, Carter, Campbell.
Speaker 5 (06:32):
What jumps out to this on you?
Speaker 7 (06:34):
To you Tom, the fact that the giants in this
mock are traded up to eighteen and again, that has
to do with a lot of times when you're talking
about trades, especially for quarterbacks, you're figuring out who is
the threat to take the guy?
Speaker 3 (06:45):
Who do we need to get ahead of. If you're
sitting there thinking the Steelers might take.
Speaker 7 (06:48):
A quarterback and you don't know who it is, you
better get ahead of them and bolt up and make
sure that you get your guy, Jackson Dart and Shador Sanders.
I talked to one GM who told me his best
guests based on people Lease talked to it even Skelts
in his room, is if you pulled all thirty two teams,
sixteen would have Sanders as the number two quarterback. Sixteen
would have Jackson Dart as the number two quarterback. There's
just nobody beyond cam Ward that truly is a consensus
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starter profile in this draft.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
It doesn't mean those guys aren't gonna go, but there's.
Speaker 7 (07:15):
Some people on all those quarterbacks who are like, yeah,
I don't know that.
Speaker 5 (07:18):
I trust we've been doing it a lot.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
I feel like Jamie, that's the last time we're gonna
throw to a mock draft full screen until twenty twenty six.
Speaker 5 (07:24):
It's it's funny what to'm.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
Saying, like show, yeah, four hours.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Here, that's true, but we got guests and to your point, Tom,
like those mocks are gonna be kindling in a matter
of hours. Like it's like when you fill out your
bracket and you're champion gets knocked out in the first round,
like by the second pick, the mox could be completely disastrous.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
The Chador thing is.
Speaker 5 (07:42):
Of course always fascinating. Tom was just talking about a
little bit.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
If you don't understand, if you're just watching on draft day,
Shador Sanders is not here, Dion Sanders is not here,
Shiloh Sanders is not here. We passed a KFC in Swuana, Wisconsin,
so Colonel Sanders is here. But that's the only Sanders
member who is anywhere close to where we are. Then
there's further intrigue about what's Shador going to be up
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to tonight. Where is he going to be up to?
Are we gonna see him? Remember s doesn't have an agents.
Are there any obstacles in getting a hold of him?
Is he gonna be on camera? Is he gonna be
in his home?
Speaker 7 (08:17):
Teams got an email yesterday from the NFL Player Personnel Department.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Saying Shador Sanders has changed his phone number.
Speaker 7 (08:23):
You want to make sure, always forever, since the early
days of the NFL Draft, that a player was alive
and you could reach him before you actually turn in
the card.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
So they let everybody know.
Speaker 7 (08:33):
People I talked to, no one had remembered another player
changing his number the day before the draft. But yes,
they will be able to get a hold of him
at the.
Speaker 5 (08:39):
New didn't see that? Do you think you have too
much schadur talk? It's always interesting if you like him,
if you.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Don't, Tom what kind of first round player literally changes there?
Speaker 5 (08:49):
Someone number like two days before the draft. Doesn't happen.
Speaker 7 (08:51):
Somebody who lost their phone, somebody who at their identity stolen.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
There's a lot of reasons the teaple.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
Change the number when they don't want to be reached.
Is that some sort of performative thing about what he's here?
Like I read into everything with him. The other thing
I'm going to go with you mentioned the name once
people who are here. The Jalen Milroe thing is still
fascinating to me. It's rubbed me terribly wrong. From the
second I heard that he was attending the draft. I
get protective of these guys. I feel protective. I don't
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want them to show up and not get drafted. So
when I see the report, Jalen's on the shows and yeah,
I'm going, And we think, well, Jalen, like all the
mock draft guys don't have you going into the first round, Why.
Speaker 5 (09:24):
The hell are you going.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
It could be that Jalen knows something we don't know,
and that the teams have communicated something we don't know.
Speaker 5 (09:31):
I still think it from my gut and Tom, you
got your sources, I got my gun. I think he's
gonna get drafted tonight. I think he's gonna go. You do,
and why do you feel that way?
Speaker 7 (09:38):
I think it's because he has such a rare skill set.
He can do things nobody else can do. He's got
one of the biggest arms in the draft. Doesn't always
know where it's going. There's a lot of line drive
fastballs like you see right there. But he's got an
absolute hose and he's got rare running ability, the likes
of which we haven't seen very often in the NFL now.
The reason for a player to come is you want
the draft experience. You got all these people who helped
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you along your path. You want to have that time.
You want to be able to walk the ro red carpet.
Jalen Mourroe came here, I'm sure, with two suits and
is ready to come back. He wants to get his
moment with Roger Goodell. There are advantages by the way
I'm going in the second round. If you're a quarterback
and not having the fifth year option, it gives you
leveraging contract negotiations sooner if you're able to get on
the field. I don't know that nobody has told me
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we are definitely taking to Jalen Milroe on night one,
but he would not surprise me if we hear his
name called.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
All right, t Mex's and os to this.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
There are fifteen NFL prospects that are going to be
in the green room tonight. To Jalen Milroe's defense, he's
got two other teammates in Jahad Campbell and Tyler Booker
who probably are going to go in the first and
if not the second there actually could be four to
five guys who are left over for Friday night, so
it might not be kind of the sad violin music
isle of one guy sitting in the green room. It
could be a pretty good hang on Friday. So I'm
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going to be up there on the stage alternating with
ESPN and Molly McGrath. She gets the odd number picks
first in the interview, and I get the even number
picks first in the interview. And by first, I mean
then the interview goes to the house. So I am
already preparing for the Travis Hunter conversation.
Speaker 5 (11:03):
He talked next to the commissioner.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
He walks right over to me, and there we are
standing on that corner of that stage and we're having
a conversation about what Travis Hunter knows that the Browns
have told him about whether or not he's playing playing
two ways and an NFL team.
Speaker 5 (11:17):
So that's Jay, You've done all this work. He's gonna
go three to the Giants.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Okay, I'm gonna be totally My note cards are gonna
fly in the air if he doesn't go to a
run right exactly on the first time doing the draft,
I learned it yesterday. So in defensive Jalen, I don't.
Maybe it's there's a handful of guys that do go
Friday Night and they're all just hanging in there with
their second listen.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
And when we get to the Midwest, Jamie becomes even
nicer than she is in New York. In LA that
was a very Pollyanna take on someone showing up to
the first round and not getting drafted. I've watched Will Levis,
I've watched Brady Quinn, I've watched Gino Smith. You get
exploited for years, and you're in montages and you're sitting
there and you're looking at your phone. Your girlfriend's miserable.
I get the contractual values. If you show up in
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your suit, you want to get picked tonight. Never mind
all that.
Speaker 5 (12:01):
I don't like seeing them show up and not get drafted.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
So I hope we have the happy ending where Milroe
does get drafted.
Speaker 7 (12:07):
The green room has gotten a lot nicer over the years.
Those old those old shots of like the round table
with the folding chairs and Aaron Rodgers and just kind
of rocking back and forth. It this is a whole
lot better here, I'll say. Last night, so I was
at a pre draft party with some of the prospects. Okay,
and would you see it in these moments? It is
really cool because you know, Tyler Booker was there, Tep
McMillan was there, Jehad Campbell, their families and their friends
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and it was a party. There was like an hour
long line dance in the middle of think Tech mcdim
McMillan could get down absolutely. And my advice always to
players is just you have no control over where you go, Like,
this is what it's all about. So that's why guys come.
Even if you're not certain when you're gonna go, and
it might be excruciating tonight, you trust the Aaron could
end up in the right place and enjoy the moment.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Tom last question for you, can we just circle back
to Jail Milroe real quick? Why are you saying first round?
And like guys like CD, why is there such a
vast difference in opinion right now because you are quick
to say I have them going on in the first round.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
There, Yeah, look at something.
Speaker 7 (13:05):
Look at the four quarterbacks who were there at the
end last season. It's Josh Allen, it's Patrick Mahomes, it's
Jaden Daniels, it's Jalen Hurts. It's a bunch of rare
physcal athletes. Ma Home is probably fourth thout of four
by the way.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
On that list.
Speaker 7 (13:17):
But guys who improved, in the case of Jalen Hurts
and Josh Allen their accuracy in the NFL, and they
had that big physcal athlete to them, you had rare
run ability with Lamar Jackson. Lamar's gotten a lot better
as a passer. Jalen Hurts has got a lot better
as a pastor. You can use this and listen, Tyler
Shuck is not going to do the things that Jalen
Milroe can do run in the football.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
Either kid Will Howard or Quinn You or some of the.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
Report of Jackson, that report that you had about people
saying that historically how he's a runner, They've never seen
somebody like this.
Speaker 7 (13:43):
I had several different people, not one, several different people
say Jalen Milroe is the best runner they've ever evaluated
on tape coming out of college. That's not Lamar Jackson,
it's not Michael Vick. We gonna go back and look
at the numbers. You can look at all the highlights,
but just the fact that Jalen Milroe is in that conversation.
That just makes me to believe, whether it is at
the bottom of one or at the top of two,
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somebody is going to take a bet on this.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
Lamar Win thirty two, Jalen Hurtswin fifty three.
Speaker 7 (14:10):
You do those drafts over those guys are going way
higher hotally, maybe somebody applies to that logic takes Jalen Nobey.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
Yeah, you're avoiding not being seen and being pitied in
the green room for sitting there for on Thursday night.
But you're also avoiding not to be made to look
like a fool if you don't draft the guy when
you had the opportunity to. And that's what teams are
trying to decide tonight ahead of the first round of
the twenty twenty five NFL Draft. We're back on GMFB
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and time for the Roundup presented by Roundup for lones.
It's the twenty twenty five NFL Draft. It's here, and
sometimes it's most important to also pay attention to guys
and people and coaches that got these players to the
point where they are walking across that stage behind us
in Green Bay. This weekend, we're looking right at Alabama.
You hear about all these players come out of Tuscaloosa
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every year and in his first year as a head coach,
Kaylin Debor was awesome with Alabama and he's on the
show now GMFB coach high.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
H all time.
Speaker 9 (15:06):
Thanks for having me on. Good morning.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Oh there's so many coaches, that's all right, more coaches
than us.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
That's how we like it.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Coach you got we just mentioned them in the last segment.
You've got three players here that are going to experience
this weekend together and Jalen Milroe to Hod Campbell and
Tyler Booker, the awesome personalities.
Speaker 5 (15:26):
Great guys.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
Can you just speak on what those three did for
your first year as a head coach at Alabama and
your organization you're building.
Speaker 10 (15:34):
Yeah, without a doubt. Uh, you know, it's a broken record.
Whenever people ask me about each of them individually, and
I go from one to the other and I say,
this guy is special.
Speaker 9 (15:43):
As a person, it's the same thing for all three
of them.
Speaker 10 (15:46):
They all have three, you know, outgoing personalities that they
carry a smile on their face, but they're tenacious on
the football field and so very similar uh that way.
But obviously it's super excited about what they're going to
bring to the future, you know, not just for themselves,
but also continue to highlight with Alabama Football's done for them.
But they were instrumental in helping just be the glue
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through a through a transition last year. And you know,
I'm excited for them. You know, one of their biggest fans,
that's for sure.
Speaker 5 (16:17):
You're always good at talking about your players.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
I'm just gonna ask you to talk about yourself a
bit for people watching at home. You had the task
of replacing Nick Saban, a man who had the championships,
man who has a statue, who is an icon. It's
such an overwhelming task to step into that role. How
did you go about it and how did you find success?
Speaker 8 (16:35):
Well?
Speaker 10 (16:35):
I think you just you understand what you're coming into
and it's a program that has just decades and decades
of success and there's instrumental people that that have taken
it to greater heights, and Coach Saban obviously took it
to an unbelievable place. And you know, his his mark
is all over this building, all over this program forever will.
Speaker 9 (16:56):
Be and so just you know, you understand that there's
gonna be people before you.
Speaker 10 (16:59):
The understand there's always gonna be people after you, and
I'm just privileged to come in and try to get
he need to build and you know, build on what.
Speaker 9 (17:07):
The foundation is this program.
Speaker 10 (17:09):
And obviously coach Saban was amazing during his seventeen years.
Speaker 7 (17:13):
Here, Caitlyn, and all my conversations with NFL coaches, scouts
executive lead up to this draft, one of the things
that jumped out at me was how highly people rate
Jalen Milroe as a runner, putting him in the same
conversation as guys like Lamar Jackson. Now, Lamar also improved
a ton as a passer after getting into the NFL.
What do you think about the comparisons in terms of
the running ability to some of the best we've seen,
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and does he have that same developmental upside with his arm?
Speaker 9 (17:38):
Yeah, I mean as a runner.
Speaker 10 (17:39):
You know, I didn't I didn't get a chance to
coach those guys obviously, but you watch, you know, football,
and you see what they're capable of. I just know,
speaking on me half of Jalen, he was many times
the greatest athlete on the football field, and you know
what he could do with the football.
Speaker 9 (17:57):
In his hands.
Speaker 10 (17:57):
We just had to make sure we were giving him
enough opportunities to go do that, you know, making people miss.
He could put his shoulder down and he needed to
and get those yards.
Speaker 9 (18:09):
But inside, outside, it really didn't matter. You know, he's
he could take in the distance. I think.
Speaker 10 (18:15):
You know, as a defensive coordinator, you know, if I
was in those shoes, you know, you're kind of worried
every single play when the ball is snapped to make
sure that he doesn't get lose, not just move the chains,
but taking the distance.
Speaker 5 (18:30):
Coach.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
We've had many, many prospects on the show over the
last several weeks, and personally, I've not been impressed with
any of them more than I was with Jalen Milroll,
an incredible, incredibly sharp, eager, interesting guy like we absolutely
fell in love with him immediately. To that point, I
want you to bring us run and bring you into
our opening segment of our show.
Speaker 5 (18:46):
We just did. He's here, and he's here at the draft.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
He's attending the draft, and we, as football fans and
admirers of his have some nerves about whether he may
be drafted or not. There's a lot of prognosticators who
do this for a living who say that Jalen Milroll
will not be taken in the first round. It raised
some eyebrows when he chose to attend the draft despite that.
Speaker 5 (19:06):
How did it make you feel about the decision?
Speaker 10 (19:08):
Yeah, I mean, I just know what Jalen's all about,
and you know, he appreciates every opportunity he gets, whether
it's on the football field, being around people who are
fans of his, supports of his He's going to give
everything he has to those people. And I think, you know,
just living life in general, he got invited. This is
an opportunity. And yes, you don't know exactly. I mean,
just like any other player, you don't know exactly where
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you're going to go. But these experiences are what you
work to your entire life for and I understand it
can go different directions, but you know he's gonna enjoy
this experience. And I think there's also a piece where
there isn't just one other teammate, there's two other teammates
that are there with him, and he's also they're not
just for himself, but he's also to support them and
enjoy this experience together with all three of them.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
I believe it, and you mentioned it those two other guys,
and Johan Campbell and Tyler Barker. We've also had them
on GMFB and they were at IMG Academy together. These
two know each other so well to the point where
joh called Tyler Booker an absolute dog on our show.
My favorite thing about Tyler Booker is the zero sacks
giving up on three hundred and seventy one pass attempts
for Jalen.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
Milroe this season.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
An absolute stud. What's it about him that allows him
to protect the quarterback? And why is he their new
best friend in the NFL?
Speaker 10 (20:22):
Well, you know, and I'll talk about the past drink,
but he also is a finisher on the on the
run blocking side. I think that's what makes him elite,
and so he can do it both. But you know,
he's just an anchor inside. You know, he's going to
be firm inside in the in the middle interior there.
I would put it as far as him being a
guy that, at some point, as he continues to grow
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and develop, couldn't even move to the outside. We had
him met tackle for a game there and he made
that transition seamless against you know, a good opponent, and
you know, I just I think he's so versatile and
his best football just I.
Speaker 9 (20:57):
Think all these guys is still ahead of him. But
he he understands the game.
Speaker 10 (21:02):
He's tenacious, not just a run blow, but he's going
to make sure that he protects that quarterback behind him.
Speaker 7 (21:09):
I met Tyler Booker last night, and he's here with
Ty Simpson, who's been one of your backup quarterbacks at Alabama.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
He's been there for a few years now.
Speaker 7 (21:17):
Not often that the offensive lineman, like the star guard,
first round pick his best friends with the backup quarterback.
Can you just tell me about that relationship between the
two of those guys.
Speaker 10 (21:25):
You know, I didn't know that until earlier in the
season this past year, and Books one of the best
leaders I've ever been around. And you know, I just
could tell with just their relationship and the way he
holds guys accountable to different things.
Speaker 9 (21:40):
He was elite that way.
Speaker 10 (21:41):
And I heard a conversation he had with with Tie
that made me really understand that, you know, these guys
have a special connection that goes beyond just you know,
hanging out on teammates. And so it didn't surprise me
when you know, he hasked Ty to come to the
draft and I'm super excited that Ti gets to be
there and experience it, not just with book, but also
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with Jalen and Jahada.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
Well, that might not have surprised you, but something that
surprised every human being on earth. Last year at the draft,
Michael Pennix, junior at your quarterback at Washington gets drafted
by Atlanta and all of us fell off our chairs.
Speaker 5 (22:18):
No one saw it coming.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
What did you think about that moment and what have
you thought observing from Afar about his first year in
the league.
Speaker 9 (22:25):
Yeah, I was super excited at that time. The more
and more as time.
Speaker 10 (22:30):
Went on, the last week or so, I felt like
there was going to be it was going to be
for sure a thing where he would be drafted, probably in.
Speaker 9 (22:37):
The top fifteen. Didn't know what team, but I knew
there was a lot of interest.
Speaker 10 (22:41):
And then just I think it's just worked out really
well for him, getting a chance to sit back for
a little bit of time, half perspective. You know, Mike's
taking it all in sort sort, you know, just be
able to sort through and see things from a little
bit of a step back, and then you know, getting
the opportunity and make the most of it. Just like
he's always done and so just you know, love the
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way in the direct and things continue to go for him.
That the trend is, you know, heading the right direction
and looking forward to great year next year.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
Coach, in all your years coaching before Alabama, but now
specifically at Alabama, you guys have so many players in
the NFL. I mean the SEC in Alabama specifically riddled
on NFL rosters. How do you go about keeping in
touch with players that you have these relationships with but
you're also trying to coach up your own program? What's
this like for you to launch these guys into the
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NFL but you're there near and dear to your heart.
Speaker 9 (23:36):
Well, you know, and I'm.
Speaker 10 (23:37):
Still working on that, especially the ones that have been
away from here for a while maybe don't get back
as often. So it's been you know, this group right
now that's that's heading out obviously super tight with them
and we have a connection even a little bit of
last year's group. It's been fun kind of following them
and they come back a little bit more because they're
still closer to the program and they know there's always invited.
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But yeah, to continue to branch out to those guys
that maybe have been away from Alabama for multiple years.
Speaker 9 (24:07):
You know that's still a work in progress.
Speaker 10 (24:09):
But I think across the board, wherever you've been, you're
just excited about the journey that these guys are on.
You know, the past schools, whether it's Washington and Fresno State,
guys all over the league. They're just living out their dream,
you know, doing what they do best. And you know,
whenever they need something, they know they know they're just
a full call away.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
Well, we appreciate you bringing us into the journey. That's
an absolute factory right there at Alabama. A ton of
guys coming out this weekend. Kalen de Boor, the head coach,
thanks so much for coming on. Jim matt Bee, we
appreciate you so much.
Speaker 9 (24:40):
To mad thank you, Roll Time, the frozen Tundra.
Speaker 5 (24:46):
Lambeau Field. There it is.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
We are sitting here right outside this iconic cathedral in
Wisconsin of lambeau Field, right next to us draft stages
right behind us.
Speaker 5 (24:56):
I'm with Jamie, I'm with Tom, and this is so.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
Cool to be able to talk to packers legends. We
talked to Lroy Butler and now we're going to talk
to a guy who wears a blazer with how many
sacks he has sewn?
Speaker 8 (25:06):
And sleeping How are we doing? Doing great? Man doing great?
Always a fun time getting back here in Green Bay.
As you people have already seen this week. The fans
are just crazy and it's a great It's just a
great part of the country.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
Wonderful wonderful memories of watching you play Super Bowl champion,
the sacks, Reggie White, all of that wonderful stuff take
us to a moment.
Speaker 5 (25:26):
You just look around Sean.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
As a guy who played so many games here and Lambeau,
the fact that it is built up like this, In fact,
the draft.
Speaker 5 (25:32):
Is here tonight. How are you feeling? Well? You know what?
Speaker 8 (25:34):
Green Bay has already resigned himself to the fact that
they'll never get a Super Bowl, right So it was
like dead giveaway with a no dome, right y. And
so this is their super Bowl. It's their time to
show off, to show what the city is all about
and the great fans. But the funny thing about it
is if you come up here on a Friday and
a home game, this is what it's like all the time. Yeah,
this is what it's like all the time. It is
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a cathedral like you said, but it's a party, man.
They have so much fun playing football and it's just
a great place to be really.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
So we're all here because the twenty five draft. But
you were a second round pick to the LA Raiders
in nineteen eighty four. What was I hate to age
the questions like what was the draft leg?
Speaker 9 (26:13):
Then?
Speaker 3 (26:14):
What was that moment like for you at the time.
Speaker 8 (26:16):
I had my agent at the time had a client
named Fred Smerlis, and Fred was he was playing for
the Bills at the time. And so I went to
Northeastern up in Boston. You couldn't find ESPN anywhere it
was on television, so you had to like go fifty
miles outside of town to one person that had cable
so you could watch the game. So I go out
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there and I sit there all morning, and a little
bit after four o'clock, I hear my name called. I'm like, oh,
I got drafted. Jump back in the car, drive back
to campus and had to pay all my bills a second.
Nobody knew anything.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
Because what's your phone numbers? By the phone, young man?
Speaker 8 (26:52):
Still a bum. No one knew. But you know it's
funny though your life changed, so right, my life changed
that day and it was just fantastic to be able
to be a part of all that and like I said,
my life. I'm so appreciative of the mister Davis and
his family for drafting me because it did change my life.
Speaker 7 (27:08):
Eventually, come to Green Bay team up here with one
of the legends of all time, Reggie White.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
Right, it's your favorite Reggie White story.
Speaker 8 (27:15):
Well, Reggie was a great motivator, but you know he
didn't curse, so it's it's sometimes it's very hard to
motivate people without profanity. So I was a godsend, no
pun intended when I got up here. So Reggie would take,
you know, take the uh, the conversation on it, but
so far. Then he'd say, sure, finish it up, and
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I would didn't add what was necessary.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
Remember like the designated cursor one.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
That's great.
Speaker 5 (27:46):
I thought you came in a blazing too.
Speaker 8 (27:49):
For certain words that just you have to have that
kind of connotation, the cursing connotation. Just make your point.
Speaker 5 (27:56):
I've done it on the show before. It's not advised.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
But talking about preparation and excitement, we just wrote some
Super Bowl clips for those of us who were remember
Packers Patriots. This Patriots team was looked at its Bill
Parcells drew bled so up and coming new squad going
into that game. Were you guys feeling pretty good about
yourselves taking that game?
Speaker 8 (28:16):
We do one hundred percent we're gonna win CSA.
Speaker 5 (28:19):
We did.
Speaker 8 (28:19):
We ate so much in New Orleans that everybody was
like fifteen pounds overweight. That game, a lot of times
the hardest game to win. It's a championship game. By
the time you get to the super Bowl, you are
pretty confident that you're gonna win. I'm sure New England
thought they were going to win too. It got so
bad that I never knew what we were down. Later on
I found out we were down at some point in
that game, but there was no doubt in our mind
we're going to win that for none whatsoever.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
That's ineible where it is.
Speaker 8 (28:43):
Yeah, yeah, it's I mean, like I said, these are
just moments that changed your life.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
Kyle mentioned it that we are sitting a parking lot
away from Lambeau. He called it a cathedral of football,
which is perfectly said. This area has a mistique when
it comes to football, and if you love the game,
you love being here. Do you have a favorite memory
from playing in that building specifically.
Speaker 8 (29:03):
You don't what I think that it still comes around family, right,
So I remember being up here and playing in my
two hundredth game, and I think I got my one
hundred sack while I was up here also, And so
just those kind of memories and being able to share
up with family and friend and the great thing about
this team here specifically, though, were the guys had such
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great teammates. Guys that get in the locker room at
seven o'clock in the morning and at seven o'clock, eight
o'clock at night, wives were calling, dude, are you coming home?
You know, guys just love being around each other. There's
a fun locker room.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
But you mentioned it really quick. That jacket you're wearing
the one hundred sack club, how often you wear that thing?
Speaker 8 (29:43):
Just hit me down? Then it won appropriate, you know myself.
Bruce Smith, Ricky Jackson, Richard Dent got together and said,
you know what, this position is the second most important
position in football because we get after the first most
important position in football, and you know, the Hall recognizes
guys in the hundred already. And it was just a way,
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you know, guys just promoting promoting what we've done. They're
only forty five of these in the history of the NFL,
sixty one all together when you're counting the arnofficial guys.
So it's a pretty special group to be and and
we're proud of it.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
Of those hundred sacks, did you have a quarterback that
it was the most fun to sack for you?
Speaker 8 (30:21):
I would have to say too, Steve Young and troyan
Steve because he whinds all the damn time and still
he still does what do you want? Yes, yes, Steve,
I said it. And you know Troy, because at that
time that they were the bellwell, you know, that was
a group that you wanted to be real bad and
Troy had a great career, but it had great teams also.
Speaker 7 (30:42):
So later tonight the Packers will get on the clock
the first time ever facing the low field, right, the
Commissioner's going to come up there, and now it's the
latest member of the Packers. Do you have a player
or position you'd really like that pick to.
Speaker 8 (30:54):
Be for the Packers? Yeah, it doesn't make it different.
They're going to get it right. Really, they're going to
get it right. They've got a great staff. They just
know how to do it. They planned better than everyone.
Always playing chess when everybody else is playing checkers. They'll
make a move and people be like, how they do that,
and they just know it. But know this, if they
pick a wide receiver, it's going to be an all pro.
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They've got that down to a science.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
Is there a guy that's playing your position? You said
the most important behind the quarterback in the NFL? Is
there one hundred sack guy you think that might get
drafted tonight?
Speaker 3 (31:25):
Is there one that's playing right now?
Speaker 8 (31:27):
You know what? It's hard to say because even when
you look at guys when they're like JJ Watt was
a second fastest to one hundred, you know what, one
hundred and fifteen, you know what I'm saying. So it's
more of not just how good you are. Also it's
a testament to your longevity, how you take care of
your body, your craft, how you hone your craft every
year because every year you get better, people find different
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ways to block you, you know what I mean. So
it's really hard to say, especially when some of these
young guys and how they're training, if they don't get
in the right situation also and get coached properly. It's football,
right Now at this level, everybody's really really good. Everybody
has access to the same kind of training, So it's
not personally how seriously you take being a pro because
it truly is a job, and if you don't handle
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that part very well, you don't have a chance. So
it's a roundabout way of answering your question. Hell no,
until you prove it, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (32:19):
Not some prayers with a guest that has to follow Seawan.
They're not going to have that blazer and they're not
going to have a profit.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
It's just Steve Young, a new friend of the show,
also runs the defense at Cornell University a coach, and
I do the guy.
Speaker 8 (32:34):
You do it all Cornell sprint Let's be clear, I
know sprint football. I love spread football. Those bright kids.
I'm up there with Mike hub from the NFL. So
we're turning the program around but having a lot of
fun doing it.
Speaker 5 (32:46):
We're having a lot of fun talking to you and
one of the greats.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
You come to Green Bay, you hope to meet him,
missus Shawn Jones at his blazer.
Speaker 5 (32:51):
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ahead of the first draft today, the second round tomorrow,
and the subsequent rounds on Saturday. Look at us go
on a stage in front of the stage where the first.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Round picks are going to walk.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Across the night when they hear their names called by
the Commissioner of the NFL, Roger Goodell, Kyle Tom, Welcome
to Green Bay.
Speaker 5 (01:59):
Thanks Tom. I feel I feel.
Speaker 7 (02:00):
Great's warmer than we thought. It's not currently rainy. We
might have a beautiful fall like day. What might say
football weather.
Speaker 5 (02:07):
I'm into it.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
If you look between our shoulders, you can, I think
see the actual podium in the stage I ran on there.
I don't think I'm supposed to do. There was a
partition that was in front of I just went right
by it. So too late now, Sorry, I'm mister commissioner,
and sorry everybody. I went on. I wanted to do it.
It's very empowering being up there. And you know, there's
a vibe in here right now, and I'm not joking.
There's a vibe of nerves of tension, I think, and
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it's I think we're gonna get into this. There is
so much unknown, Tom, and I'm talking about in your
world that it's palpable around here. We don't know all
here how the picture going to too. I don't even
know if we know after one how it's gonna go.
So we will dissect that but you can feel it.
Aside from that beautiful Midwestern hospitality and all the fried food,
there is nerves right here.
Speaker 5 (02:50):
And I'm actually kind.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Of feeling it. It's as palpable as the chill that's
in the air, and it's crisp enough for Kyle to
be in a T shirt in Wisconsin on a Thursday morning,
the most important Thursday in these young men's lives. Greatness
is on the clock for the twenty twenty five NFL Draft.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
Let's get into it.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
We got to talk about it. Let's go who is
on the clock, and that is the Tennessee Titans. Their
new GM Mike Borgonzi has said the team has come
to a consensus that they are sticking with this pick.
Tom What else are you hearing? After the Titans and
the way this night might go chaos?
Speaker 7 (03:20):
This is the most unproductable draft that I can remember,
in terms of teams not really having a good field,
not just down at the bottom round one, in like
the middle or just outside the top ten.
Speaker 5 (03:32):
Did you say that to all the drafts? Do we
say that every year's really different?
Speaker 7 (03:36):
In a normal draft, there'd be teams to have eighteen
to twenty twenty two first stroung grades on players this year.
You talk to teams just like eight, ten, twelve blue
chip type players, and then there's this big clump of
depending what team, twenty or thirty guys who all could
come off the board in different orders, and nobody quite
knows exactly where the runs are.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
Going to come at different positions.
Speaker 7 (03:55):
So you mentioned it, cam Ward number one, that's the
presumptive pick to the Tennessee Titans at two. The belief
has been within the league that Travis Hunter would be
the pick the Browns, though we also know have gotten
calls about that selection. Jacksonville at five is a team
that potentially could be trying to move up minor standing
is unlikely the Browns actually trade the number two overall pick,
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but if they did, you can burn all those mock
drafts immediately. There are teams that are actively looking to
move down. The Carolina Panthers, I've told them, been making
a lot of calls about moving down from number eight.
So if you're thinking we need to get into the
top ten, you might be able to come into that spot.
Why would Carolina be wanting to move down, Well, they
got a lot of different needs.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
They got a bunch of players great.
Speaker 7 (04:37):
And similarly, if it's a wide receiver or a defensive.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
Tackle, don't matter them. They just need some really good
football players.
Speaker 7 (04:43):
So depending what positions don't come off the board early,
maybe somebody begins to slide. Eight would also be a
spot that if somebody is concerned about the Saints at
nine drafting a quarterback, you would want to get up
ahead of them and make sure that you get your QB.
And then, of course the quarterbacks, that's the biggest story
in every draft, and especially this one. Cam Ward again
at one in all likelihood, but after that, Shadeur Sanders,
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Jackson Dart, Jalen Milroe, who's gonna be in the green room,
maybe even Tyler Shuck. All those names could go in
the first they could all go in.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
The second round.
Speaker 7 (05:16):
And when you talk about Shador Sanders in particular, there's
a really limited number of teams that I think will
particularly be in play Number three at the Giants, number
twenty one at the Steelers, anything else might require somebody
trading up to get Chadur on night one.
Speaker 5 (05:29):
It's awesome stuff.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
We are in Green Bay ahead of the draft, and
as Kyle mentioned, a lot of Fried food. I feel differently.
There's life before the cheese curds I had last night,
and there's life after. That's how I feel about Daniel
Jeremiah's mock draft, like there's life that I know before it,
and then when DJ hits us with his mock draft,
it really feels real.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
Charles Davis the same way.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
These guys are going to be sitting on these sets
for the next three days for NFL Network. So let's
take a look at what Charles and DJ have come
out with in terms of their mock draft.
Speaker 8 (05:55):
CD.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
First, let's go the fascinating part of CD here, and
this is just his top ten, is that he doesn't
have Chadour going in the first round. He's only got
one quarterback going in the first round, and that is
cam Ward number one overall to the Tennessee Titans. The
names are familiar to you when you look at CDs
one through ten, but after that it gets a little chaotic.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
Kyle, Okay, well, I mean listen, the headline from me
again we're talking quarterbacks. Is one quarterback in the entire
first Yeah, that's it. None of those Jackson Darts, no
Jalen Millrose, no Chadors and it's highly viable.
Speaker 5 (06:27):
And then we go to DJs.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Who he's got again, Cam Travis, Carter, Campbell.
Speaker 5 (06:32):
What jumps out to this on you?
Speaker 7 (06:34):
To you Tom, the fact that the giants in this
mock are traded up to eighteen and again, that has
to do with a lot of times when you're talking
about trades, especially for quarterbacks, you're figuring out who is
the threat to take the guy?
Speaker 3 (06:45):
Who do we need to get ahead of. If you're
sitting there thinking the Steelers might take.
Speaker 7 (06:48):
A quarterback and you don't know who it is, you
better get ahead of them and bolt up and make
sure that you get your guy, Jackson Dart and Shador Sanders.
I talked to one GM who told me his best
guests based on people Lease talked to it even Skelts
in his room, is if you pulled all thirty two teams,
sixteen would have Sanders as the number two quarterback. Sixteen
would have Jackson Dart as the number two quarterback. There's
just nobody beyond cam Ward that truly is a consensus
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starter profile in this draft.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
It doesn't mean those guys aren't gonna go, but there's.
Speaker 7 (07:15):
Some people on all those quarterbacks who are like, yeah,
I don't know that.
Speaker 5 (07:18):
I trust we've been doing it a lot.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
I feel like Jamie, that's the last time we're gonna
throw to a mock draft full screen until twenty twenty six.
Speaker 5 (07:24):
It's it's funny what to'm.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
Saying, like show, yeah, four hours.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Here, that's true, but we got guests and to your point, Tom,
like those mocks are gonna be kindling in a matter
of hours. Like it's like when you fill out your
bracket and you're champion gets knocked out in the first round,
like by the second pick, the mox could be completely disastrous.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
The Chador thing is.
Speaker 5 (07:42):
Of course always fascinating. Tom was just talking about a
little bit.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
If you don't understand, if you're just watching on draft day,
Shador Sanders is not here, Dion Sanders is not here,
Shiloh Sanders is not here. We passed a KFC in Swuana, Wisconsin,
so Colonel Sanders is here. But that's the only Sanders
member who is anywhere close to where we are. Then
there's further intrigue about what's Shador going to be up
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to tonight. Where is he going to be up to?
Are we gonna see him? Remember s doesn't have an agents.
Are there any obstacles in getting a hold of him?
Is he gonna be on camera? Is he gonna be
in his home?
Speaker 7 (08:17):
Teams got an email yesterday from the NFL Player Personnel Department.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Saying Shador Sanders has changed his phone number.
Speaker 7 (08:23):
You want to make sure, always forever, since the early
days of the NFL Draft, that a player was alive
and you could reach him before you actually turn in
the card.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
So they let everybody know.
Speaker 7 (08:33):
People I talked to, no one had remembered another player
changing his number the day before the draft. But yes,
they will be able to get a hold of him
at the.
Speaker 5 (08:39):
New didn't see that? Do you think you have too
much schadur talk? It's always interesting if you like him,
if you.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Don't, Tom what kind of first round player literally changes there?
Speaker 5 (08:49):
Someone number like two days before the draft. Doesn't happen.
Speaker 7 (08:51):
Somebody who lost their phone, somebody who at their identity stolen.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
There's a lot of reasons the teaple.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
Change the number when they don't want to be reached.
Is that some sort of performative thing about what he's here?
Like I read into everything with him. The other thing
I'm going to go with you mentioned the name once
people who are here. The Jalen Milroe thing is still
fascinating to me. It's rubbed me terribly wrong. From the
second I heard that he was attending the draft. I
get protective of these guys. I feel protective. I don't
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want them to show up and not get drafted. So
when I see the report, Jalen's on the shows and yeah,
I'm going, And we think, well, Jalen, like all the
mock draft guys don't have you going into the first round, Why.
Speaker 5 (09:24):
The hell are you going.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
It could be that Jalen knows something we don't know,
and that the teams have communicated something we don't know.
Speaker 5 (09:31):
I still think it from my gut and Tom, you
got your sources, I got my gun. I think he's
gonna get drafted tonight. I think he's gonna go. You do,
and why do you feel that way?
Speaker 7 (09:38):
I think it's because he has such a rare skill set.
He can do things nobody else can do. He's got
one of the biggest arms in the draft. Doesn't always
know where it's going. There's a lot of line drive
fastballs like you see right there. But he's got an
absolute hose and he's got rare running ability, the likes
of which we haven't seen very often in the NFL now.
The reason for a player to come is you want
the draft experience. You got all these people who helped
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you along your path. You want to have that time.
You want to be able to walk the ro red carpet.
Jalen Mourroe came here, I'm sure, with two suits and
is ready to come back. He wants to get his
moment with Roger Goodell. There are advantages by the way
I'm going in the second round. If you're a quarterback
and not having the fifth year option, it gives you
leveraging contract negotiations sooner if you're able to get on
the field. I don't know that nobody has told me
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we are definitely taking to Jalen Milroe on night one,
but he would not surprise me if we hear his
name called.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
All right, t Mex's and os to this.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
There are fifteen NFL prospects that are going to be
in the green room tonight. To Jalen Milroe's defense, he's
got two other teammates in Jahad Campbell and Tyler Booker
who probably are going to go in the first and
if not the second there actually could be four to
five guys who are left over for Friday night, so
it might not be kind of the sad violin music
isle of one guy sitting in the green room. It
could be a pretty good hang on Friday. So I'm
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going to be up there on the stage alternating with
ESPN and Molly McGrath. She gets the odd number picks
first in the interview, and I get the even number
picks first in the interview. And by first, I mean
then the interview goes to the house. So I am
already preparing for the Travis Hunter conversation.
Speaker 5 (11:03):
He talked next to the commissioner.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
He walks right over to me, and there we are
standing on that corner of that stage and we're having
a conversation about what Travis Hunter knows that the Browns
have told him about whether or not he's playing playing
two ways and an NFL team.
Speaker 5 (11:17):
So that's Jay, You've done all this work. He's gonna
go three to the Giants.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Okay, I'm gonna be totally My note cards are gonna
fly in the air if he doesn't go to a
run right exactly on the first time doing the draft,
I learned it yesterday. So in defensive Jalen, I don't.
Maybe it's there's a handful of guys that do go
Friday Night and they're all just hanging in there with
their second listen.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
And when we get to the Midwest, Jamie becomes even
nicer than she is in New York. In LA that
was a very Pollyanna take on someone showing up to
the first round and not getting drafted. I've watched Will Levis,
I've watched Brady Quinn, I've watched Gino Smith. You get
exploited for years, and you're in montages and you're sitting
there and you're looking at your phone. Your girlfriend's miserable.
I get the contractual values. If you show up in
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your suit, you want to get picked tonight. Never mind
all that.
Speaker 5 (12:01):
I don't like seeing them show up and not get drafted.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
So I hope we have the happy ending where Milroe
does get drafted.
Speaker 7 (12:07):
The green room has gotten a lot nicer over the years.
Those old those old shots of like the round table
with the folding chairs and Aaron Rodgers and just kind
of rocking back and forth. It this is a whole
lot better here, I'll say. Last night, so I was
at a pre draft party with some of the prospects. Okay,
and would you see it in these moments? It is
really cool because you know, Tyler Booker was there, Tep
McMillan was there, Jehad Campbell, their families and their friends
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and it was a party. There was like an hour
long line dance in the middle of think Tech mcdim
McMillan could get down absolutely. And my advice always to
players is just you have no control over where you go, Like,
this is what it's all about. So that's why guys come.
Even if you're not certain when you're gonna go, and
it might be excruciating tonight, you trust the Aaron could
end up in the right place and enjoy the moment.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Tom last question for you, can we just circle back
to Jail Milroe real quick? Why are you saying first round?
And like guys like CD, why is there such a
vast difference in opinion right now because you are quick
to say I have them going on in the first round.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
There, Yeah, look at something.
Speaker 7 (13:05):
Look at the four quarterbacks who were there at the
end last season. It's Josh Allen, it's Patrick Mahomes, it's
Jaden Daniels, it's Jalen Hurts. It's a bunch of rare
physcal athletes. Ma Home is probably fourth thout of four
by the way.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
On that list.
Speaker 7 (13:17):
But guys who improved, in the case of Jalen Hurts
and Josh Allen their accuracy in the NFL, and they
had that big physcal athlete to them, you had rare
run ability with Lamar Jackson. Lamar's gotten a lot better
as a passer. Jalen Hurts has got a lot better
as a pastor. You can use this and listen, Tyler
Shuck is not going to do the things that Jalen
Milroe can do run in the football.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
Either kid Will Howard or Quinn You or some of the.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
Report of Jackson, that report that you had about people
saying that historically how he's a runner, They've never seen
somebody like this.
Speaker 7 (13:43):
I had several different people, not one, several different people
say Jalen Milroe is the best runner they've ever evaluated
on tape coming out of college. That's not Lamar Jackson,
it's not Michael Vick. We gonna go back and look
at the numbers. You can look at all the highlights,
but just the fact that Jalen Milroe is in that conversation.
That just makes me to believe, whether it is at
the bottom of one or at the top of two,
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somebody is going to take a bet on this.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
Lamar Win thirty two, Jalen Hurtswin fifty three.
Speaker 7 (14:10):
You do those drafts over those guys are going way
higher hotally, maybe somebody applies to that logic takes Jalen Nobey.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
Yeah, you're avoiding not being seen and being pitied in
the green room for sitting there for on Thursday night.
But you're also avoiding not to be made to look
like a fool if you don't draft the guy when
you had the opportunity to. And that's what teams are
trying to decide tonight ahead of the first round of
the twenty twenty five NFL Draft. We're back on GMFB
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and time for the Roundup presented by Roundup for lones.
It's the twenty twenty five NFL Draft. It's here, and
sometimes it's most important to also pay attention to guys
and people and coaches that got these players to the
point where they are walking across that stage behind us
in Green Bay. This weekend, we're looking right at Alabama.
You hear about all these players come out of Tuscaloosa
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every year and in his first year as a head coach,
Kaylin Debor was awesome with Alabama and he's on the
show now GMFB coach high.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
H all time.
Speaker 9 (15:06):
Thanks for having me on. Good morning.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Oh there's so many coaches, that's all right, more coaches
than us.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
That's how we like it.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Coach you got we just mentioned them in the last segment.
You've got three players here that are going to experience
this weekend together and Jalen Milroe to Hod Campbell and
Tyler Booker, the awesome personalities.
Speaker 5 (15:26):
Great guys.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
Can you just speak on what those three did for
your first year as a head coach at Alabama and
your organization you're building.
Speaker 10 (15:34):
Yeah, without a doubt. Uh, you know, it's a broken record.
Whenever people ask me about each of them individually, and
I go from one to the other and I say,
this guy is special.
Speaker 9 (15:43):
As a person, it's the same thing for all three
of them.
Speaker 10 (15:46):
They all have three, you know, outgoing personalities that they
carry a smile on their face, but they're tenacious on
the football field and so very similar uh that way.
But obviously it's super excited about what they're going to
bring to the future, you know, not just for themselves,
but also continue to highlight with Alabama Football's done for them.
But they were instrumental in helping just be the glue
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through a through a transition last year. And you know,
I'm excited for them. You know, one of their biggest fans,
that's for sure.
Speaker 5 (16:17):
You're always good at talking about your players.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
I'm just gonna ask you to talk about yourself a
bit for people watching at home. You had the task
of replacing Nick Saban, a man who had the championships,
man who has a statue, who is an icon. It's
such an overwhelming task to step into that role. How
did you go about it and how did you find success?
Speaker 8 (16:35):
Well?
Speaker 10 (16:35):
I think you just you understand what you're coming into
and it's a program that has just decades and decades
of success and there's instrumental people that that have taken
it to greater heights, and Coach Saban obviously took it
to an unbelievable place. And you know, his his mark
is all over this building, all over this program forever will.
Speaker 9 (16:56):
Be and so just you know, you understand that there's
gonna be people before you.
Speaker 10 (16:59):
The understand there's always gonna be people after you, and
I'm just privileged to come in and try to get
he need to build and you know, build on what.
Speaker 9 (17:07):
The foundation is this program.
Speaker 10 (17:09):
And obviously coach Saban was amazing during his seventeen years.
Speaker 7 (17:13):
Here, Caitlyn, and all my conversations with NFL coaches, scouts
executive lead up to this draft, one of the things
that jumped out at me was how highly people rate
Jalen Milroe as a runner, putting him in the same
conversation as guys like Lamar Jackson. Now, Lamar also improved
a ton as a passer after getting into the NFL.
What do you think about the comparisons in terms of
the running ability to some of the best we've seen,
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and does he have that same developmental upside with his arm?
Speaker 9 (17:38):
Yeah, I mean as a runner.
Speaker 10 (17:39):
You know, I didn't I didn't get a chance to
coach those guys obviously, but you watch, you know, football,
and you see what they're capable of. I just know,
speaking on me half of Jalen, he was many times
the greatest athlete on the football field, and you know
what he could do with the football.
Speaker 9 (17:57):
In his hands.
Speaker 10 (17:57):
We just had to make sure we were giving him
enough opportunities to go do that, you know, making people miss.
He could put his shoulder down and he needed to
and get those yards.
Speaker 9 (18:09):
But inside, outside, it really didn't matter. You know, he's
he could take in the distance. I think.
Speaker 10 (18:15):
You know, as a defensive coordinator, you know, if I
was in those shoes, you know, you're kind of worried
every single play when the ball is snapped to make
sure that he doesn't get lose, not just move the chains,
but taking the distance.
Speaker 5 (18:30):
Coach.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
We've had many, many prospects on the show over the
last several weeks, and personally, I've not been impressed with
any of them more than I was with Jalen Milroll,
an incredible, incredibly sharp, eager, interesting guy like we absolutely
fell in love with him immediately. To that point, I
want you to bring us run and bring you into
our opening segment of our show.
Speaker 5 (18:46):
We just did. He's here, and he's here at the draft.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
He's attending the draft, and we, as football fans and
admirers of his have some nerves about whether he may
be drafted or not. There's a lot of prognosticators who
do this for a living who say that Jalen Milroll
will not be taken in the first round. It raised
some eyebrows when he chose to attend the draft despite that.
Speaker 5 (19:06):
How did it make you feel about the decision?
Speaker 10 (19:08):
Yeah, I mean, I just know what Jalen's all about,
and you know, he appreciates every opportunity he gets, whether
it's on the football field, being around people who are
fans of his, supports of his He's going to give
everything he has to those people. And I think, you know,
just living life in general, he got invited. This is
an opportunity. And yes, you don't know exactly. I mean,
just like any other player, you don't know exactly where
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you're going to go. But these experiences are what you
work to your entire life for and I understand it
can go different directions, but you know he's gonna enjoy
this experience. And I think there's also a piece where
there isn't just one other teammate, there's two other teammates
that are there with him, and he's also they're not
just for himself, but he's also to support them and
enjoy this experience together with all three of them.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
I believe it, and you mentioned it those two other guys,
and Johan Campbell and Tyler Barker. We've also had them
on GMFB and they were at IMG Academy together. These
two know each other so well to the point where
joh called Tyler Booker an absolute dog on our show.
My favorite thing about Tyler Booker is the zero sacks
giving up on three hundred and seventy one pass attempts
for Jalen.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
Milroe this season.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
An absolute stud. What's it about him that allows him
to protect the quarterback? And why is he their new
best friend in the NFL?
Speaker 10 (20:22):
Well, you know, and I'll talk about the past drink,
but he also is a finisher on the on the
run blocking side. I think that's what makes him elite,
and so he can do it both. But you know,
he's just an anchor inside. You know, he's going to
be firm inside in the in the middle interior there.
I would put it as far as him being a
guy that, at some point, as he continues to grow
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and develop, couldn't even move to the outside. We had
him met tackle for a game there and he made
that transition seamless against you know, a good opponent, and
you know, I just I think he's so versatile and
his best football just I.
Speaker 9 (20:57):
Think all these guys is still ahead of him. But
he he understands the game.
Speaker 10 (21:02):
He's tenacious, not just a run blow, but he's going
to make sure that he protects that quarterback behind him.
Speaker 7 (21:09):
I met Tyler Booker last night, and he's here with
Ty Simpson, who's been one of your backup quarterbacks at Alabama.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
He's been there for a few years now.
Speaker 7 (21:17):
Not often that the offensive lineman, like the star guard,
first round pick his best friends with the backup quarterback.
Can you just tell me about that relationship between the
two of those guys.
Speaker 10 (21:25):
You know, I didn't know that until earlier in the
season this past year, and Books one of the best
leaders I've ever been around. And you know, I just
could tell with just their relationship and the way he
holds guys accountable to different things.
Speaker 9 (21:40):
He was elite that way.
Speaker 10 (21:41):
And I heard a conversation he had with with Tie
that made me really understand that, you know, these guys
have a special connection that goes beyond just you know,
hanging out on teammates. And so it didn't surprise me
when you know, he hasked Ty to come to the
draft and I'm super excited that Ti gets to be
there and experience it, not just with book, but also
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with Jalen and Jahada.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
Well, that might not have surprised you, but something that
surprised every human being on earth. Last year at the draft,
Michael Pennix, junior at your quarterback at Washington gets drafted
by Atlanta and all of us fell off our chairs.
Speaker 5 (22:18):
No one saw it coming.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
What did you think about that moment and what have
you thought observing from Afar about his first year in
the league.
Speaker 9 (22:25):
Yeah, I was super excited at that time. The more
and more as time.
Speaker 10 (22:30):
Went on, the last week or so, I felt like
there was going to be it was going to be
for sure a thing where he would be drafted, probably in.
Speaker 9 (22:37):
The top fifteen. Didn't know what team, but I knew
there was a lot of interest.
Speaker 10 (22:41):
And then just I think it's just worked out really
well for him, getting a chance to sit back for
a little bit of time, half perspective. You know, Mike's
taking it all in sort sort, you know, just be
able to sort through and see things from a little
bit of a step back, and then you know, getting
the opportunity and make the most of it. Just like
he's always done and so just you know, love the
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way in the direct and things continue to go for him.
That the trend is, you know, heading the right direction
and looking forward to great year next year.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
Coach, in all your years coaching before Alabama, but now
specifically at Alabama, you guys have so many players in
the NFL. I mean the SEC in Alabama specifically riddled
on NFL rosters. How do you go about keeping in
touch with players that you have these relationships with but
you're also trying to coach up your own program? What's
this like for you to launch these guys into the
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NFL but you're there near and dear to your heart.
Speaker 9 (23:36):
Well, you know, and I'm.
Speaker 10 (23:37):
Still working on that, especially the ones that have been
away from here for a while maybe don't get back
as often. So it's been you know, this group right
now that's that's heading out obviously super tight with them
and we have a connection even a little bit of
last year's group. It's been fun kind of following them
and they come back a little bit more because they're
still closer to the program and they know there's always invited.
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But yeah, to continue to branch out to those guys
that maybe have been away from Alabama for multiple years.
Speaker 9 (24:07):
You know that's still a work in progress.
Speaker 10 (24:09):
But I think across the board, wherever you've been, you're
just excited about the journey that these guys are on.
You know, the past schools, whether it's Washington and Fresno State,
guys all over the league. They're just living out their dream,
you know, doing what they do best. And you know,
whenever they need something, they know they know they're just
a full call away.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
Well, we appreciate you bringing us into the journey. That's
an absolute factory right there at Alabama. A ton of
guys coming out this weekend. Kalen de Boor, the head coach,
thanks so much for coming on. Jim matt Bee, we
appreciate you so much.
Speaker 9 (24:40):
To mad thank you, Roll Time, the frozen Tundra.
Speaker 5 (24:46):
Lambeau Field. There it is.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
We are sitting here right outside this iconic cathedral in
Wisconsin of lambeau Field, right next to us draft stages
right behind us.
Speaker 5 (24:56):
I'm with Jamie, I'm with Tom, and this is so.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
Cool to be able to talk to packers legends. We
talked to Lroy Butler and now we're going to talk
to a guy who wears a blazer with how many
sacks he has sewn?
Speaker 8 (25:06):
And sleeping How are we doing? Doing great? Man doing great?
Always a fun time getting back here in Green Bay.
As you people have already seen this week. The fans
are just crazy and it's a great It's just a
great part of the country.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
Wonderful wonderful memories of watching you play Super Bowl champion,
the sacks, Reggie White, all of that wonderful stuff take
us to a moment.
Speaker 5 (25:26):
You just look around Sean.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
As a guy who played so many games here and Lambeau,
the fact that it is built up like this, In fact,
the draft.
Speaker 5 (25:32):
Is here tonight. How are you feeling? Well? You know what?
Speaker 8 (25:34):
Green Bay has already resigned himself to the fact that
they'll never get a Super Bowl, right So it was
like dead giveaway with a no dome, right y. And
so this is their super Bowl. It's their time to
show off, to show what the city is all about
and the great fans. But the funny thing about it
is if you come up here on a Friday and
a home game, this is what it's like all the time. Yeah,
this is what it's like all the time. It is
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a cathedral like you said, but it's a party, man.
They have so much fun playing football and it's just
a great place to be really.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
So we're all here because the twenty five draft. But
you were a second round pick to the LA Raiders
in nineteen eighty four. What was I hate to age
the questions like what was the draft leg?
Speaker 9 (26:13):
Then?
Speaker 3 (26:14):
What was that moment like for you at the time.
Speaker 8 (26:16):
I had my agent at the time had a client
named Fred Smerlis, and Fred was he was playing for
the Bills at the time. And so I went to
Northeastern up in Boston. You couldn't find ESPN anywhere it
was on television, so you had to like go fifty
miles outside of town to one person that had cable
so you could watch the game. So I go out
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there and I sit there all morning, and a little
bit after four o'clock, I hear my name called. I'm like, oh,
I got drafted. Jump back in the car, drive back
to campus and had to pay all my bills a second.
Nobody knew anything.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
Because what's your phone numbers? By the phone, young man?
Speaker 8 (26:52):
Still a bum. No one knew. But you know it's
funny though your life changed, so right, my life changed
that day and it was just fantastic to be able
to be a part of all that and like I said,
my life. I'm so appreciative of the mister Davis and
his family for drafting me because it did change my life.
Speaker 7 (27:08):
Eventually, come to Green Bay team up here with one
of the legends of all time, Reggie White.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
Right, it's your favorite Reggie White story.
Speaker 8 (27:15):
Well, Reggie was a great motivator, but you know he
didn't curse, so it's it's sometimes it's very hard to
motivate people without profanity. So I was a godsend, no
pun intended when I got up here. So Reggie would take,
you know, take the uh, the conversation on it, but
so far. Then he'd say, sure, finish it up, and
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I would didn't add what was necessary.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
Remember like the designated cursor one.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
That's great.
Speaker 5 (27:46):
I thought you came in a blazing too.
Speaker 8 (27:49):
For certain words that just you have to have that
kind of connotation, the cursing connotation. Just make your point.
Speaker 5 (27:56):
I've done it on the show before. It's not advised.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
But talking about preparation and excitement, we just wrote some
Super Bowl clips for those of us who were remember
Packers Patriots. This Patriots team was looked at its Bill
Parcells drew bled so up and coming new squad going
into that game. Were you guys feeling pretty good about
yourselves taking that game?
Speaker 8 (28:16):
We do one hundred percent we're gonna win CSA.
Speaker 5 (28:19):
We did.
Speaker 8 (28:19):
We ate so much in New Orleans that everybody was
like fifteen pounds overweight. That game, a lot of times
the hardest game to win. It's a championship game. By
the time you get to the super Bowl, you are
pretty confident that you're gonna win. I'm sure New England
thought they were going to win too. It got so
bad that I never knew what we were down. Later on
I found out we were down at some point in
that game, but there was no doubt in our mind
we're going to win that for none whatsoever.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
That's ineible where it is.
Speaker 8 (28:43):
Yeah, yeah, it's I mean, like I said, these are
just moments that changed your life.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
Kyle mentioned it that we are sitting a parking lot
away from Lambeau. He called it a cathedral of football,
which is perfectly said. This area has a mistique when
it comes to football, and if you love the game,
you love being here. Do you have a favorite memory
from playing in that building specifically.
Speaker 8 (29:03):
You don't what I think that it still comes around family, right,
So I remember being up here and playing in my
two hundredth game, and I think I got my one
hundred sack while I was up here also, And so
just those kind of memories and being able to share
up with family and friend and the great thing about
this team here specifically, though, were the guys had such
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great teammates. Guys that get in the locker room at
seven o'clock in the morning and at seven o'clock, eight
o'clock at night, wives were calling, dude, are you coming home?
You know, guys just love being around each other. There's
a fun locker room.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
But you mentioned it really quick. That jacket you're wearing
the one hundred sack club, how often you wear that thing?
Speaker 8 (29:43):
Just hit me down? Then it won appropriate, you know myself.
Bruce Smith, Ricky Jackson, Richard Dent got together and said,
you know what, this position is the second most important
position in football because we get after the first most
important position in football, and you know, the Hall recognizes
guys in the hundred already. And it was just a way,
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you know, guys just promoting promoting what we've done. They're
only forty five of these in the history of the NFL,
sixty one all together when you're counting the arnofficial guys.
So it's a pretty special group to be and and
we're proud of it.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
Of those hundred sacks, did you have a quarterback that
it was the most fun to sack for you?
Speaker 8 (30:21):
I would have to say too, Steve Young and troyan
Steve because he whinds all the damn time and still
he still does what do you want? Yes, yes, Steve,
I said it. And you know Troy, because at that
time that they were the bellwell, you know, that was
a group that you wanted to be real bad and
Troy had a great career, but it had great teams also.
Speaker 7 (30:42):
So later tonight the Packers will get on the clock
the first time ever facing the low field, right, the
Commissioner's going to come up there, and now it's the
latest member of the Packers. Do you have a player
or position you'd really like that pick to.
Speaker 8 (30:54):
Be for the Packers? Yeah, it doesn't make it different.
They're going to get it right. Really, they're going to
get it right. They've got a great staff. They just
know how to do it. They planned better than everyone.
Always playing chess when everybody else is playing checkers. They'll
make a move and people be like, how they do that,
and they just know it. But know this, if they
pick a wide receiver, it's going to be an all pro.
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They've got that down to a science.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
Is there a guy that's playing your position? You said
the most important behind the quarterback in the NFL? Is
there one hundred sack guy you think that might get
drafted tonight?
Speaker 3 (31:25):
Is there one that's playing right now?
Speaker 8 (31:27):
You know what? It's hard to say because even when
you look at guys when they're like JJ Watt was
a second fastest to one hundred, you know what, one
hundred and fifteen, you know what I'm saying. So it's
more of not just how good you are. Also it's
a testament to your longevity, how you take care of
your body, your craft, how you hone your craft every
year because every year you get better, people find different
(31:49):
ways to block you, you know what I mean. So
it's really hard to say, especially when some of these
young guys and how they're training, if they don't get
in the right situation also and get coached properly. It's football,
right Now at this level, everybody's really really good. Everybody
has access to the same kind of training, So it's
not personally how seriously you take being a pro because
it truly is a job, and if you don't handle
(32:11):
that part very well, you don't have a chance. So
it's a roundabout way of answering your question. Hell no,
until you prove it, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (32:19):
Not some prayers with a guest that has to follow Seawan.
They're not going to have that blazer and they're not
going to have a profit.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
It's just Steve Young, a new friend of the show,
also runs the defense at Cornell University a coach, and
I do the guy.
Speaker 8 (32:34):
You do it all Cornell sprint Let's be clear, I
know sprint football. I love spread football. Those bright kids.
I'm up there with Mike hub from the NFL. So
we're turning the program around but having a lot of
fun doing it.
Speaker 5 (32:46):
We're having a lot of fun talking to you and
one of the greats.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
You come to Green Bay, you hope to meet him,
missus Shawn Jones at his blazer.
Speaker 5 (32:51):
Absolutely
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