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October 23, 2025 • 41 mins

Hour One of the Good Morning Football Podcast begins with the TNF matchup between the Vikings and Chargers.  Hosts Jamie Erdahl, Kyle Brandt, Manti Te'o, and Mike Garafolo discuss what's happening in the QB room for Minnesota.  The breakfast table welcomes Derrick Barnes to the show.  The Lions LB discusses his comeback this year and the success being had in Detroit.  Plus, is Joe Flacco right about dining alone?

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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Good Morning Football is the production of the NFL in
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Speaker 2 (00:11):
Welcome to Good Morning Football, everybody.

Speaker 3 (00:12):
We are brought to you by Old Trapper, Beat Jerkey. Thursday,
October twenty third, Jamie eard All Mantio here in La
Thursday Night Football happening about boot on hundred yards across
the street that way tonight.

Speaker 1 (00:23):
Kyle Brant hanging out with Mike.

Speaker 3 (00:25):
Girafolo in New York City. I got my first boop
end of the show. Kyle, what do you think about
that boop?

Speaker 4 (00:31):
I think it's great. It's fantastic. It's a new record.
Mike Aratfolo. Are you ready to rock today? Are you
ready to talk to football?

Speaker 2 (00:37):
This is the pre pre pre pre pregame show.

Speaker 4 (00:39):
But that's right, it starts now. It's Good Morning Football. Manti, Jamie,
l A, Me and Mike in New York. Let's start
the show.

Speaker 3 (00:59):
Welcome to Good Morning Football, presented by Old Trapper. That's
right GM BE on a Thursday. Everybody, Jamie, Manti, Mike
g and Kyle welcome in. I really am appreciating the
stride that we're hitting as a show in terms of
on air team team chemistry. Despite being split coast to
coast today, now put us back up as a crew.
We look like we're all at the same party. And

(01:20):
from a wardrobe perspective, you know, one of us is
wearing a tuxedo and then the other like a ratty
T shirt.

Speaker 4 (01:26):
We all look like we're hanging.

Speaker 3 (01:27):
Out getting ready for those a night football but specifically
Manti Kyle Brant with a bit of a.

Speaker 2 (01:32):
Looking awesome guys, maybe with a cashry me.

Speaker 1 (01:36):
You're looking great, bro. All right, GQ, let's get the
term right. It is not it's a side part. It's
not a comb over. A combover is when you grow
out this side and you put it over the top.

Speaker 4 (01:47):
You know what.

Speaker 1 (01:48):
You know why I'm side party? You know why I
have this beard. It's I'm doing it for a role.
I'm not even kidding. I'm going to be portraying a
current starting NFL quarterback.

Speaker 4 (01:57):
And you guess which one it is? Go ahead, anybody, Joe.

Speaker 2 (01:59):
Burrow, Joe Flacco.

Speaker 1 (02:01):
Somebody yelled it out. I heard it, Yep, it is
Joe Flacker. I've been cultivating this look for like two weeks.
I'm shooting this today for CBS, and I have to
look like Joe Flacco, who's got the side part he's
got like Mike, You and I have the same beard
right now, and I've got the Flacco beer going. So yeah,
if we can see Flacco, great, If not, we've seen
him many other times.

Speaker 4 (02:20):
There it is there, it is right. Yeah, it's not bad.

Speaker 1 (02:22):
I even have that jersey. I'm gonna be wearing the
same white tiger jerseys. So if you're like, what the
hell is Brant doing with his hair, It's just for
a role. I've always wanted to say that when I
was a failed actor. It's for a role, So I'm
doing it. You should keep it, KP. It looks great.

Speaker 2 (02:34):
Be you, miss Kyle.

Speaker 3 (02:35):
You just wanted an excuse to bring a camera crew
to a fog to chow and mike you up while
you're eating.

Speaker 4 (02:39):
Come on, I would be there.

Speaker 1 (02:41):
Well, if I did, I'd get a table for one
and then three tables over.

Speaker 4 (02:44):
Be Joe Flacco eating by himself because he gets it.
This is a big thing last night on the internet.

Speaker 1 (02:48):
Flacco's like people who are eating by themselves in a
restaurant are actually in heaven.

Speaker 4 (02:53):
It's a great, great take and might eave that man alone.
Leave him alone the time of his life.

Speaker 3 (02:57):
Yep, don't go over and ask him what are you
doing here for?

Speaker 4 (03:00):
Are you here for work or for pleasure? Just don't
talk to him. Leave him in peace.

Speaker 3 (03:03):
We're going to have sound later, I promise. Until then,
there is a game like I said, to be played
tonight across the street at SOFI Stadium. Ian Rappaport, get
in here, rap sheet, How you doing this morning? Let's
talk Chargers shall We think the team has been without
Joe Alt for a stretch, but what's his status going
into tonight's game.

Speaker 5 (03:20):
Promising for the first time in about a month since
Joe Alt, the really, really good offensive tackle for the
Los Angeles Chargers, suffered a high ankle sprain, he told
reporters this week he plans to play. That's the plan,
was his exact quote. Listen, his questionable to not participate
in the full practice this week. It's actually rare for
a player to come back from a long term injury
without doing a full practice.

Speaker 4 (03:42):
But it's a weird week. It's a sure week.

Speaker 5 (03:43):
You don't really practice that much or at all anyway, So.

Speaker 4 (03:46):
We will see if Joe All is able.

Speaker 5 (03:48):
To get out there, If Trey Pipkins, who's dealing with
the knee injury, also questionable. If he comes back, that
would mean almost their whole offensive line is going.

Speaker 4 (03:55):
To be there.

Speaker 5 (03:56):
That would be a good thing for the Los Angeles Chargers.
In the Minnesota Vikings, they have some key injuries as well.
It's not just offensive line talk this morning, though, we'll
get some more of that in a second. Aaron Jones,
they're starting running back, who has been an ir for
a month for games to be specific with a hamstring injury.
Return to practice this week is questionable and at least

(04:16):
has a realistic chance to be able to be activated
and played tonight. We will see if it's actually going
to happen, but at least he has got a shot.
And then a not welcome situation on the injury report yesterday,
Christian Darisaw, their stellar left tackle who has missed some
time at various points in his career. He played seventy
plays this past Sunday. He reported some soreness, significant soreness

(04:39):
on Wednesday.

Speaker 4 (04:40):
Short weeks are brutal, so they're.

Speaker 5 (04:42):
Going to check them out today, maybe even put them
through a full game. A preseason or pregame excuse me
workout and see if Christian Darisa is able to go
officially listed as questionable, that would be a big one
as well.

Speaker 3 (04:54):
That's huge, raphe thanks so much. This is a very
optimistic report from you. Awesome for the Vikings and the
Chargers ahead of their kickoff of the week eight slate,
ahead of the weekend. This is happen tonight in LA
and it will actually be the first meeting between the
two head coaches across the sideline from each other, Jim
Harbaugh and Kevin O'Connell. Just a couple of the guys
that have spent some time working their football career through

(05:15):
San Diego quarterbacking, coaching and whatnot. But they will meet tonight.
We're gonna start with KOC, whose defense will absolutely have
its hands full with Harbaugh's guy, Justin Herber.

Speaker 6 (05:28):
He's big, he's strong, He's very athletic, don't I still
don't know if he gets enough credit for his athleticism.
I mean, the mobility in Justin's game is real. He
can hurt you in the pocket with elite arm strength
and accuracy, but then he can clearly make plays with
his legs and create to give them extended opportunities at
plays down the field and staying on the field, moving

(05:52):
the chains. And we know they want to run the football.
We know they want to do a lot of things
off of that run game.

Speaker 7 (06:04):
Great player, great competitor, elite skill set, guys challenge and
guys have.

Speaker 8 (06:10):
Been been working.

Speaker 3 (06:13):
I feel like there was a contest between those two, Like,
use five of your best adjectives to describe the other
team's best player. And that's how the press conference is
going to go. It's Vikings, chargers, MANSI, it's happening tonight.
What do you make of it?

Speaker 9 (06:23):
Well, you could take those same adjectives Jamie, five, six
of them, whatever and put it to one guy and
his name is Derwin James. I talked earlier this week
about Cooper dejen and how diverse he is and he
can play multiple things. Guys, Derwin James is cut from
the same cloth. He does the same exact thing. As
matter of fact, he does a few things a little differently.

Speaker 4 (06:42):
He plays a rusher, like get this guy.

Speaker 9 (06:45):
He's played fifty nine snaps as a rusher. He's played
one hundred and fourteen as a linebacker, one hundred and
sixty as a slot corner, a nickel corner and fifty
eight as a safety. He's the only player in the
NFL to play fifty plus snaps at each of those positions.
And so going into this week, you know, the Chargers
have been the hurt for a little bit, and only physically,

(07:05):
but there seems to be some toll that's been on
this defense and this offense.

Speaker 4 (07:10):
For the past few weeks. Derwin James is that guy.

Speaker 9 (07:13):
He's not only the guy they used all over the field,
but there he's a guy that they used in the huddle,
in the pregame huddle, in coaching meetings.

Speaker 4 (07:20):
And all of that stuff. He's the heartbeat of this team.

Speaker 9 (07:23):
And so when I look at this game, the number
one thing that I'm going to be looking at is
number three the amount of impact that he makes on
the field and off of the field. And you know,
Jim Harbaugh did compare him to one of the greats
in junior SEU, so that goes to show what he
means to know only the head coach, but his teammates.
So that's what I'm looking for.

Speaker 8 (07:39):
Michie.

Speaker 10 (07:40):
I just can't believe we're in another NFL season where
the San Francisco forty nine Ers and the Los Angeles Chargers.
They feel like they're the two teams every year that
are just dealing with injuries upon injuries upon injuries upon
and this Charger's backfield, now that's ridiculous. Is down to
a point where a gentleman who hasn't had a touch
a touch in a game since Christmas Eve of twenty

(08:01):
twenty two. I'm talking about na him Hines because Hassan
Haskins is out for this game.

Speaker 2 (08:06):
Kamati Veidal is still there for the.

Speaker 10 (08:08):
Chargers, going to be the whole to back March twenty two.
This is a freezing game in Chicago right here, last
touch on office.

Speaker 2 (08:16):
This is what happened.

Speaker 10 (08:16):
Hit a jet ski accident the following off season, so
he missed the entire twenty twenty three season. He was
released in March of twenty four, then signed with the Browns.
Was with them the entire season last year, but didn't play.
Was released in February of this year, sign with the
Chargers before training camp, then to the practice squad at
final cuts cut on September seventh. Re signed to the

(08:38):
practice squad on October seventh and has had two steps.

Speaker 4 (08:43):
But I hadn't touched the ball. Will we see it tonight?

Speaker 2 (08:46):
I mean, you look at the depth chart.

Speaker 10 (08:48):
We have to right, at some point he's got to
touch the.

Speaker 1 (08:50):
Foverybody remembers that Aim Hines kick return and the Jamar
Hamlin season for the Bills. Really fun player on the
Colts would do flips really fast, really verse utime. I
can't believe it's been a long though.

Speaker 10 (09:00):
This feels like a good entry point to do league.
The last time the heen's high ti touch to football
in a regular season game.

Speaker 1 (09:07):
Gas prices, Oh my god, go ahead, three.

Speaker 2 (09:10):
Dollars and two spots.

Speaker 10 (09:11):
It's three zero seven now, so that hasn't changed much.
But here's every I mean, go back to Joe Biden.

Speaker 4 (09:15):
Was president, remember, yeah, I do.

Speaker 10 (09:17):
Tom Brady the announcer, No, no, no, Tom Brady the
football player. He was still active at the time harpball,
and JJ McCarthy still at Michigan, hadn't won.

Speaker 2 (09:24):
A national championship yet yet.

Speaker 10 (09:26):
Elsewhere in the AFC West, Taylor Swift was dating Joe
Alwyn hadn't even met Travis Kelcey at that point, and
Madison Beer was dating Nick Austin.

Speaker 2 (09:35):
Who the heck is Nick Austin? I don't know who
heck about all the things that have changed.

Speaker 4 (09:38):
At the last time, I don't ask that question.

Speaker 1 (09:42):
Wow, I don't remember December twenty two because I was
just so a wash in the Harry and Meghan Netflix special.
That was my whole life. So I wasn't doing any football.

Speaker 4 (09:51):
I wasn't. I was just all into it.

Speaker 1 (09:53):
That's Nahim Heinz is like used to be a household name.

Speaker 4 (09:55):
Like I love him.

Speaker 1 (09:56):
I'm rooting for him. I hope he has a big
night tonight. I here's what I'm looking for tonight. I'm
looking for an answer to the question, what the hell
is going on with JJ Karthy?

Speaker 4 (10:05):
Where is he? What is he? When is he? Here's
the story.

Speaker 1 (10:10):
It has been thirty nine days since we last saw
him on the field. He left with an ankle injury
and ankle spraying spraying adjacent. He's had thirty nine days
of professional training and rehab and he still can't get
out there and play there. It's lending itself now to
a lot of theories like the well, he's quote unquote

(10:31):
really injured and we want to get you really right, JJ,
and people leading to believe that maybe they're asking him
to continue to treat his injury because they would rather
have someone else play. Here's the weird thing. JJ's going
to be active in this game. JJ is the emergency
quarterback behind Carson Wentz the starter, Max Brosmer the backup,

(10:52):
and JJ's in pads, in helmet, ready to play if
he needed to, but he's not starting.

Speaker 4 (10:58):
Here's the story. And if you go through all the theories.

Speaker 1 (11:01):
And they go through everything too, like this is like
when you go way camp and your goldfish dies and
your parents replace the goldfish and don't tell you, like
there's there's shenanigans going on.

Speaker 4 (11:10):
There's two different things.

Speaker 1 (11:12):
Either KOC doesn't want JJ out there unless he's one
hundred percent and he's had a full effective week of practice.
That's the practical answer. The other answer is Carson Wentz
is in his tenth season in a very experienced pro
and maybe he gives the Vikings a better chance to
win right now than even a one hundred percent healthy
JJ McCarthy, and KOs wants to win. Either way, it's

(11:35):
a very strange dynamic where I would think Vikings fans
and all of us are like, hello, we saw seven
quarters of JJ McCarthy. He's the franchise. He sat on
the bench for a year last year with another injury.
Can't we see him? Here's another fascinating part of it.
Let's say whatever happens tonight, Let's say Wentz doesn't play,
Say they lose.

Speaker 4 (11:52):
So next week is McCarthy week. Next week they are
at the Lions.

Speaker 1 (11:55):
Did you see what the Detroit Lions defense just did
to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and Baker?

Speaker 4 (11:59):
It was not pretty?

Speaker 1 (12:00):
So that's your reemergence of JJ McCarthy after the longest
ankle sprain I can remember in years. You put them
out against eight and Hudgerson, all them. It's there's no
soft landing spot. Personally, I think it's seventy five percent.
Koc wants some one hundred percent healthy and twenty five percent.
It really wasn't great what we saw the first couple
of weeks. And Carson isn't perfect, but he can run

(12:21):
my offense better than JJA right now.

Speaker 4 (12:22):
That's my take.

Speaker 3 (12:23):
It's a long game, short game issue. It's do you
put him out there because you have to make a
decision about the game and the outcome of what's happening
week to week, or do you wait and put him
in the best case scenario because you're trying to figure
out what investment that you put into this first round
quarterback from two years ago. We're not the ones making
the decisions, thankfully for the Vikings, but I feel and
I observe that that's what the Vikings are dealing with

(12:46):
right now is the week to week, but also the
long term consideration of what this looks like at this position.
Mike g I ask you, we are two plus weeks
away from a trade deadline. We are looking at two
teams that sit around five hundred. The whole league is
perfectly average right now. So when you look at the
Chargers and the Vikings, what are you hearing in terms

(13:07):
of adding, subtracting and their consideration about the back half
of the season and investment.

Speaker 10 (13:12):
Yeah, we reported this well. Chargers have already made a
trade with the Ravens. Joe Hortiz and the Ravens where
he had been before on a came together on a
dafe oh way that trade. They felt like they needed
some edge help there. But we reported the Chargers had
already talked to teams about potentially adding a running back
because Amari and Hampton is down for the four games
that he is on injured reserve. But our expectation and

(13:34):
what we're told is that it's going to be longer
than those four weeks. But I believe that vy dolland
what he has done has at least helped the Chargers say, well,
if we can't find the deal that we want to
add a running back there, we feel good about what
we have.

Speaker 2 (13:47):
In him at this point.

Speaker 10 (13:48):
So he has been sort of I don't say a
revelation because they were confident that he was going to
be able.

Speaker 2 (13:53):
To contribute anyway.

Speaker 10 (13:54):
So the Chargers have been nosing around at several other positions.
I don't know if they're going to wind up making
a trade at this point, but that is definitely a
position that they have had communication with teams already.

Speaker 3 (14:03):
Okay, that was about forty five second break for Kyle
to consider the question I'm about to ask him, which
is Kyle, you just laid out two different scenarios. I
wanted to give your brain some space to noodle on
what you just put out there about J J.

Speaker 4 (14:16):
Mcarthy.

Speaker 3 (14:17):
What does your gut tell you knowing the Vikings, knowing
the position, knowing the quarterback that they have right now,
both of them. Actually, what do you think is happening
with the Vikings and why they are handling it this way?
You said both scenarios, but what does your heart tell you?

Speaker 1 (14:34):
I don't think they're going to make the playoffs with
Carson Wentz. I've seen enough of that, and I do
respect to Carson Wentz. He'll be on another team next year,
and we know we love Carson Wentz. JJ's going to
be in pads tonight, ready to play, right like this
was the guy. JJ has been on this team, the
Minnesota Vikings, for twenty three games. He has played seven
quarters in twenty three games.

Speaker 4 (14:55):
It sucks.

Speaker 1 (14:55):
The injury last year was horrible, but we are sitting
here five six weeks after an ankle sprain and he's
in pads tonight. Ostensibly he could possibly play. You're gonna
roll out once again. I don't know if they lose
this game. They've lost three of four and they're riding
and dying with Carson Wentz. I'd honestly really like to
see JJ, and I know the CAFs is like we're
drafting JJ for years from now.

Speaker 4 (15:16):
In a decade now. It's bigger than the twenty twenty
five season.

Speaker 1 (15:19):
If you put him out again and Carson Wentz does
not play well tonight, there's gonna be a lot of
rumbling about why the hell is McCarthy not playing.

Speaker 4 (15:26):
Let's see what he's got?

Speaker 2 (15:27):
Is Ian still sitting by control room?

Speaker 10 (15:29):
Is he is he listening in and ready to go?

Speaker 4 (15:32):
He went, he's on the he's on the peloton or something.
Isn't going to have to do it? He's not on
the pelot. I think he's doing what's your best theory?

Speaker 2 (15:37):
Oh, he's going to get some coffee.

Speaker 10 (15:39):
And then it's it's in the morning too, where like
the kids are doing stuff, he is doing stuff. And
one time he actually put the cup down there and
forgot it was there and it overflowed, and Lee was just, oh,
the drip thing over?

Speaker 4 (15:50):
I got his overflow? Yes, oh wait, hold on, we
have we have footage of Wow. Yeah, he's just up
and lost from his jacket.

Speaker 3 (15:58):
It's like a scarecrow shed his outer layer and his
microphone still attached in his earpiece and he is like.

Speaker 10 (16:06):
That was That was Clint Eastwood at the Republican Convention
when he was talking to an empty chair at one point.

Speaker 2 (16:11):
Some people, yes, I forget where I was going.

Speaker 10 (16:14):
Oh no, I was going to bring it in because
I was gonna say everything that we have reported as
the insiders, and Tom Pella Sero, who lives in Minnesota
and has got the pulse on the team.

Speaker 2 (16:23):
Uh, he's not available here.

Speaker 10 (16:28):
But we've been clear about they want JJ McCarthy to
be fully healthy.

Speaker 2 (16:32):
And also, and this is why I wanted to see
ian space while I said this, the.

Speaker 10 (16:36):
Different timelines that have been thrown out for this injury
from people reporting it haven't helped the situation because everybody's
seeing lower numbers that that we never tied ourselves to.

Speaker 6 (16:47):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (16:48):
And and now you're saying, well, why is he not back?
It must be some kind of conspiracy.

Speaker 1 (16:51):
Theory, because that's the way that my question in now
seven quarters that he played in the first two games,
Let's say he had been lights out.

Speaker 4 (16:58):
Let's say he had thrown six.

Speaker 1 (16:59):
Touchdowns, no picks, he looked incredible, sat on the bench
the first year.

Speaker 4 (17:02):
Here we go, is he playing?

Speaker 10 (17:03):
And I I think you're you've got a different feel
about a guy like that at ninety percent, whereas this
is a key part in his career. You put him
back there where he's not comfortable and all of a sudden,
now it's not even just a physical thing, it's a
mental thing as well.

Speaker 2 (17:17):
Yeah, I think that's a part of it for sure.

Speaker 3 (17:19):
What doesn't help is that there were a half a
dozen quarterbacks drafted in that group and we're all looking
at them succeed and shine and it's bon Nicks and
it's kaileb Williams of Drake May and that whole class
is doing great, and he's still the question mark that
we want to know about. And like Kyle said, the
Vikings have to go to Detroit in ten days after tonight.
Speaking of Detroit, we've got a Lions linebacker coming on
the show GMFB next, Derek Barnes.

Speaker 2 (17:41):
Look at that. Look at him coming through the.

Speaker 3 (17:43):
Smoke and bringing the smoke to Josh Jakins in the
NFC North Home. My gosh, we got to hear about
his quarterback, his head coach, and of course a couple
of those running backs on that team.

Speaker 2 (17:52):
Lines are really fun, Kyle.

Speaker 4 (17:53):
We got to talk to him. They really are. And
it's Thursdays. You're in for another edition of GMFB trivia.
Nobody does it like us.

Speaker 1 (18:01):
We are looking at some of the bigger matchups this
week to test our nwellege.

Speaker 4 (18:04):
We have lighting changes, we have music changes. We have
Jason Seahorn in the end zone. I can't wait to
get to that. I'll remember when Lamartin did the spin. Julio,
we got them all. You don't want to miss this second.
What's up to Seawan.

Speaker 1 (18:15):
You're got to see Tom Coughlin spike that head said,
don't miss that.

Speaker 8 (18:19):
Come on.

Speaker 11 (18:28):
Good and this guy man, I feel like he's been
on the com for a while now. Man, playing really
good football and just it versatile man. And to had
this guy back, it's been big. Five total tackles, one second,
one quarterback hit, one TfL one past the field.

Speaker 12 (18:45):
Man, Come on up, Barnes. It feels so good to
be back, man. But it was a lone recovery for me.

Speaker 8 (18:57):
Bro be back. Lots of you, man.

Speaker 3 (19:02):
We are hooked on Lions locker room, but that one
was really special. In at the Lions are five and two.
They're coming off an epic Monday Night win over the Bucks,
and one of the biggest reasons was the defense shutting
down an MVP candidate candidate in Baker Mayfield. Key part
of that unit is a new friend of our show,
linebacker Derek Barnes.

Speaker 2 (19:20):
The man that game.

Speaker 3 (19:26):
We're fantastic, Hoody Thursday for Derek Barnes. Awesome to have
you on listen this defense. You guys have been banged
up last season, the last couple of weeks, but Dan
Campbell always preaches to you guys, next man up. It
can't just be a mentality you guys embody that, especially
against the Bucks. How does Dan Campbell your coaching staff
get you guys to a point where you are operating

(19:48):
at this level no matter who's.

Speaker 4 (19:49):
On the field.

Speaker 8 (19:50):
I just think it's our standard honestly.

Speaker 7 (19:52):
I mean when you got a guy like Dan, a
guy like Ship, everybody in an organization, it's it's amazing
to see like guys come in that we have like
no matter if you're you got there yesterday a week
could three weeks ago, practice squad getting elevated, like we
have the same standard expectations for everybody, and you know,
Ship kind of preaches it a lot, like if you dress,

(20:13):
you know, be ready to play because this is it
is a long season. You never know what could happen.
But man, just the preparation that we take series throughout
the week. Kudos to our coaches for, you know, getting
those players who haven't played and you know, big games
like this and coming in like I said a day ago,
we could go and getting prepared to play for you know,
a game against a game against Bakerfield may Bakerfield, like

(20:37):
when you go get a quarterback like that, like you
want to make sure everything is tuned in. I think
our coach did a wonderful job doing that this week
and getting those guys prepared and all of us prepared
and to be able to go out there and put
that show.

Speaker 8 (20:47):
On what was amazing for us.

Speaker 9 (20:48):
Yeah, Derek, I feel like I know your team. I mean,
I know your coach. I know your best friend. We
just talked off camera about your best friend is I
was his first best friend.

Speaker 4 (20:56):
So I feel like I know you as well. Triangle.
That's fine.

Speaker 9 (21:00):
I feel like I know you as well. But one
thing I do know is this is the road to
recovery after injury. And you know, after having suffered that
terrible injury last year in Week three, to have your
coach and more specifically your franchise believe in you and
still signing to a three year extension tell us a
little bit a little bit about that journey for you,
but then also what it meant for your team to

(21:21):
still believe in you in that way.

Speaker 8 (21:23):
Man, that was huge for me. And it's emotional because
it's like I mean, I remember when I was.

Speaker 7 (21:30):
My rookie second year, like I was, I didn't know
where my career was going to go. I wasn't becoming
a player that I wanted to become. And then it
just took a turn, really turned to my faith. You know,
talked to God a lot about what was going on
and with me and how I felt about things. But
you know, I always had faith in Him and have
faith that if I kept going that things will turned

(21:53):
out the way I wanted to and man, and then
I got into my third or fourth year and everything
just started to come back to me.

Speaker 8 (21:59):
Playing fast, my mental loving the game again. And then
you know, fourth year, contract year.

Speaker 7 (22:07):
You know, I did everything right through all season OTA's Camp, uh,
taking care of my body, eating the right things. Man,
it was, and then going into the season, I felt
better than ever. Things started to come to me. It
was just like the game just slowed down for me.
And then third game of the season Arizona, that got
taken away from me, and it was and really like

(22:29):
for the first day, I was really asking guy, you
know why, like why me? And and then I just
turned back to my faith and I was like, I
feel like my faith hasn't been tested yet. And that
was one of those moments where it was tested and
I kind of had a feeling like it was funny
because like three weeks before then, I had a feeling like, man,
my faith hasn't been tested yet.

Speaker 8 (22:48):
And then you know, when I realized that, I was like,
guy has a plan for me.

Speaker 7 (22:52):
And however, just shakes out and shakes out and then
man it for the for the Lions to believe in
me like that.

Speaker 8 (22:57):
After that, it was amazing. That just showed me everything.

Speaker 7 (23:00):
And and now my whole mission is to prove the right,
prove them down, the player that didn't know I can
be proved, proved proved to everybody that I'm the player that.

Speaker 8 (23:07):
You know they know I am. And man, it's it's
a it's a beautiful thing.

Speaker 7 (23:12):
And I can't thank the Lines organization enough for you know,
for believing in me and allowing me to showcase my talent.

Speaker 8 (23:19):
I love it.

Speaker 2 (23:19):
That is great stuff.

Speaker 10 (23:21):
And you know, what's great stuff When I watched line
I love so many things about watching the Lins these days.
One of the things I love is shots of Kelvin
Shepherd on the sideline.

Speaker 4 (23:30):
Yes, this coordinator.

Speaker 2 (23:31):
I can't get enough of that. Whoever's got your game,
your next game, make sure you get me that.

Speaker 10 (23:36):
I think we You and I talked during training camp
when I was up there, and you told me about
Kelvin Shepherd being the guy that will call stuff out
well before it happens on the field, Like that's the
from the sideline, Like that's the kind.

Speaker 2 (23:48):
Of vision that he has.

Speaker 10 (23:49):
What kind of impact has he had his defensive coordinators.
He's still yelling that stuff out that you can hear
from the sideline.

Speaker 4 (23:54):
Even before the ball snapped.

Speaker 7 (23:57):
I mean, I mean when he was my linebacker coach,
Like we always knew Schef had what it takes to
be a deepest coordinator, better yet to be a head coach.

Speaker 8 (24:05):
I mean, just this passionate about the game.

Speaker 7 (24:08):
He's so passionate about not only the game, but putting
players in a position to be successful.

Speaker 8 (24:13):
I mean, I think that's the biggest thing for me.
Like he's you know, super aggressive.

Speaker 7 (24:17):
As you can tell. We get out the quarterback a
little bit. Man, he's just a smart guy. And you know,
we everybody talks about him yelling and things like that,
but man, it just comes from a herd. And you know,
guys like me, Alexandeloni, Jack Campbell, a lot of guys
in our room, like we know he's about and you know,
people on the outside looking in, it's like, man, you

(24:38):
know he can be hard on these guys, but that's
what we want. I mean, that's the culture we built.
I mean, he has high expectations and standards for us. Man,
it's been amazing to see him go from my lineback
coach to my defensive coordinator. And he has the same
passionate mindset, you know, the same mindset is like he
likes to be aggressive, he likes to obviously put players
in the best position to be successful.

Speaker 8 (24:59):
And like, he's really a guy that you can go
to off.

Speaker 7 (25:01):
The field, you know, a guy you can talk to
about rather as your family, about brother, what's going on
in the facility.

Speaker 8 (25:07):
I Mean, he's always gonna keep it straight with you.

Speaker 7 (25:09):
And I think that's what guys really respect about him,
is that he just you know, it feels like not
like as a player, because you obviously have to have
that you know, coaching player thing. But no, he's he's
wonderful and just like he deserves it all. He deserves
the success that he's going to have. And I'm just
too excited to see, you know what the rest of
this year. It takes us, you know, with you know,

(25:30):
playing underneath him for sure.

Speaker 1 (25:31):
So there's a recurring theme with all of you guys
that you've really earned what you have right now. It's
why it's great to talk to you, Derek, because you
came in the same year as Dan Campbell twenty twenty one,
and you were there for the dark times.

Speaker 8 (25:43):
Man.

Speaker 1 (25:43):
You were there for the three win season, the one
and six start, and now it's so dramatically changed. What
do you remember about those times? And how do you
explain the turnaround that you guys have made.

Speaker 7 (25:57):
What it actually goes back? And is it sounds as
bad as I'm it's probably gonna make it same. But
I remember when I got drafted by Detroit and I've
seen that three one three number of pub on my
phone and I'm like and I was excited, like I'm
I got drafted.

Speaker 8 (26:13):
You know.

Speaker 7 (26:13):
Sometimes some people told me I was gonna be undrafted
and all, so it was super exciting for me. But
then you know, like obviously family members was like, oh man,
they ain't been good since.

Speaker 8 (26:23):
Before I was born. And I'm like, I don't get
none of that.

Speaker 7 (26:26):
I'm ready to go play in the NFL, but no, man,
I mean, coming in, I feel like we always had it.
I feel like it was just small pieces that we
were missing, learning how to finish games, learning how to
you know, play comprimary football, as far as the special teams,
defensive offense. I mean, and once we figured that out,
it just I feel like we just took off from there.

Speaker 8 (26:45):
I mean Dan.

Speaker 7 (26:46):
Always had the same mentality since the first day I
walked into the building. I bought in literally our first meeting.
I'm like, man, I would run through a brick wall
for this man and jump off a brief for this man,
like he is a man, He's an amazing leader and
everybody around him. I mean, I remember people would talk
with talking about how, you know, losing ag, losing Ben.

Speaker 13 (27:08):
Uh.

Speaker 8 (27:08):
They didn't know where the Lions will go without those guys.

Speaker 7 (27:10):
I mean, when you have when you build a culture
the way Dan did, it don't matter who you bring
in players, coaches, like everybody is going to fit our culture. Culture,
and that's what that's the only guys he brings in.
I mean, and if you know, for our culture, he's
not He's not going to blink twice. But man, I
think it's just, you know, kudos to hem Man for

(27:32):
allowing you know, guys like you know him to come
in and be able to you know, run offense and
and and giving Chef that job, trusting him to be
able to take our defense to the next level. I
just like I said, it's just when you have a
bunch of guys who have the same mindset on the
same journey, you know, it's easy for those transitions.

Speaker 3 (27:51):
So Derek, I think I can confidently speak for the
show right now. You are awesome man. And like next summer,
if you want to come to been a week hanging
out with us on GMFB, you come try this TV
thing out. I have one I have one last short
question for you. You have a great voice amongst the men.
Any other things about your character, personality and your style
of play. Do you can you do the Dan Campbell
because you've got a perfect voice for it, because we oftentimes.

Speaker 8 (28:13):
Yeah, I see I feel like I didn't like. Now
my voice cracking. I don't know what it is.

Speaker 7 (28:18):
I woke up this morning, got to get on TV,
and now my voice don't want to cooperate. But man,
I don't think I can do his voice.

Speaker 8 (28:24):
But I can tell you. I can tell you one
thing about Dan.

Speaker 7 (28:27):
He'll come in to me and this is no joke,
and he would just say the most random thing ever.

Speaker 8 (28:32):
I can't even think about it because it's so random.

Speaker 7 (28:34):
And then he'll just be like all right, and then
he'd be like, okay for the keys, keys, And I'm
like and everybody's just looking around like he just trist
to joking, like doesn't laugh, doesn't smile. But man, he
is he is a character. I mean, like a player's coach,
a guy that like he's probably you know, I no
offense to even one other coaches, but like Dan is

(28:56):
like probably the best couss I ever had, Like head
coach Rose, he is man he and then like he's
just like shut. You could just go talk to these
guys about anything, I mean, any problems you have. Like
that's why I respect the most. If you got to
like when you respect the coach and the coach respect you.
I mean this, it's a beautiful thing that I can
walk up to his office anytime he was going on

(29:17):
DV what's on your mind? And you know I can,
you know, express my feelings to him, and it's it's
amazing with Dan is like man, I mean his I
don't think it's any other guy like him, Man, any
other coach like him. He is a but you can
just man, just the joy in his heart, like even
when we lose, it's just like he doesn't skip a beat,
like he is ready.

Speaker 8 (29:36):
To go day in and day out, weekend and week out.

Speaker 7 (29:39):
I mean like it's and that's why you see why
we play the way we play like it's I mean,
he's just when you hear him talk like it's just
I'm bought in. Like if a guy like like Man Todd,
you probably come in there being like I'm ready to
put a Shuler pass back on right now, Like.

Speaker 8 (29:55):
He'll do that, He'll do that. But man, he is
a no I can't I can't speak No.

Speaker 7 (30:00):
He's He's just amazing and I'm so blessed to be
a part of his organization and part of you know,
under Dan Campbell.

Speaker 8 (30:07):
He is a man.

Speaker 7 (30:09):
Hopefully I get to spin my risk my career here
because this I don't think how place like Lady Troit.

Speaker 3 (30:14):
So Derek, when you speak, we listen. This was fantastic.
What an enlightening interaction with somebody who is such a
cool representative of an entire organization. Derek Garnes. We're so
happy for your health and your success and the team. Honestly,
good luck to you, stay well, stay awesome, and we're
booking you for next summer. Derek, you are an innings
eater and television my friend, and we love that.

Speaker 8 (30:33):
Y'all.

Speaker 4 (30:34):
Just let me know I'll be there perfect bring.

Speaker 14 (30:36):
Out for sure, the best of the best and just
so much fun at the Pro Bowl and the NFL
making a big announcement on Tuesday when it comes to
the Pro Bowl, an exciting date and location change. I
know this is a Kyle brand special, so everyone mark
your calendars. The twenty twenty six Pro Bowl games presented

(30:57):
by Verizon will move to Super Bowl sixty week in
the Bay Area. You're seeing it right here on your screens.

Speaker 2 (31:04):
It's going to.

Speaker 14 (31:04):
Spotlight flag football and feature the league's best players in
an AFC versus NFC flag game. Now it's an all
star event elevating flag football and the best players in
a way never done before. The Pro Bowl Games will
take place Tuesday, February third, primetime coverage coming your way

(31:24):
over on ESPN and NFL players approve to take part
in the LA twenty eight game remember that well. The
Pro Bowl Games will not only be an exciting showcase
of some of the league's best talent hello backflip, but
also a little taste of the elite athleticism and dynamic
action that you'd expect to see on the Olympic stage.

(31:45):
Here's NFL Executive of Club Business Peter O'Reilly with more.

Speaker 15 (31:51):
The Pro Bowl Games will take place on Tuesday night
of Super Bowl Week Tuesday night, February third, in primetime
and with players again, as the commissioner mentioned, with players
approved by the ownership to take part in the L
twenty eight Olympic Games. This Pro Bowl not only provides
an exciting showcase of that best talent there, but also
a little bit of a preview, a little bit of

(32:13):
preview what might be ahead, and a taste of that
elite athleticism that will in twenty twenty eight be on
an Olympic stage.

Speaker 2 (32:22):
We can't wait for LA twenty eight.

Speaker 14 (32:24):
But O'Reilly also announcing every player who is named the
Pro Bowl. They're gonna have a decal on their helmets
beginning in week seventeen, so we will know who is
selected to the Pro Bowl. Exciting new changes. We cannot
wait to see what is coming up. And here on GMFB,
Bengals quarterback Joe Flacco changing his perspective.

Speaker 4 (32:44):
On his dining habits. Maybe you relate with these two.

Speaker 2 (32:48):
Stick around to.

Speaker 14 (32:49):
Find out here on GMMB.

Speaker 2 (33:00):
Good Mo Football.

Speaker 3 (33:02):
GMFE has been on the air a long time. I
haven't even been here the entire time to know that.
I think there has never been a more perfectly placed
sound bite from a pest conference than what we're about
to air. During the Bengals weekly presser, their new quarterback
Joe Flacco was asked what it's been like adjusting to
his new surroundings in Cincinnati. I mean, he's a family man,
but he delivered this gem that we have to discuss.

Speaker 13 (33:24):
I tell people all the time, I used to see
guys sitting at a bar by themselves or you know,
just sitting by themselves eating and grabbing a little meal,
and like, man, I feel so bad for that guy.
You almost want to go join them. And now I realize,
like that dude was in heaven.

Speaker 3 (33:38):
You heard him, You heard him in heaven, Manti, do
you agree?

Speaker 1 (33:42):
I think there's a balance of heaven and the other place.

Speaker 4 (33:44):
When I'm sitting by myself, Liss, I'm.

Speaker 9 (33:47):
I think I'm a parent that I have kids at
the age where I really enjoy having my kids there,
But they're also at the same age where they start
to throw things around the table at a certain time,
like about thirty minutes in, You're like.

Speaker 4 (33:56):
All right, sit down, sit down, sit down. So I
love having my kids, then, yes, I do that.

Speaker 9 (34:02):
He did say that I love my kids there, So
I'm not yet, And I would love to hear what Mike,
j and Kby has to say with older children.

Speaker 4 (34:09):
Yeah, no, you don't. No, you don't.

Speaker 10 (34:11):
No, you don't because you know what you know when
we send it, bro Man, Tye is such a great
dad and a family man.

Speaker 2 (34:17):
We've got to stop letting him go.

Speaker 10 (34:19):
First of this makes me and Kyle look horrible because
I've got some stuff loaded up and ready to go
with me that my kids are nice.

Speaker 2 (34:30):
Years ago, I was covering the.

Speaker 10 (34:32):
Washington football team I think at the time Will Blackman
friends of the show. I told him, I said, listen
because he had kids at the time, I didn't. We
had a whole conversation about this. If you let them
bring the iPads? How could you let them bring the iPads?
And He's like, dude, one day, you'll understand that day
is today and all the days that have preceded this
one for like seven years.

Speaker 2 (34:50):
Because my kids, Carmen and Vivian roll the footage. This
is how they be. Okay, So I'm just, you know.

Speaker 10 (34:56):
Trying to take a picture of viv and there's Carmen
in the middle there, and then watch this diabolical look
that Vivian gives me with this It is a butter knife.

Speaker 2 (35:03):
Relax. I wouldn't give her a shark. Where's the nice
one right there? Look a look in the eyes.

Speaker 10 (35:08):
That's a kid that's saying, no, Dad, you are not
going to enjoy your breakfast today, and I'm going to
make sure of it. And it's not just because of
the sugar, all right, by the way, I work on
those pancakes.

Speaker 2 (35:17):
At least they're sitting down. Oh wait here we are.

Speaker 10 (35:19):
No, we don't stand in the booth viv Okay, we
don't please sit down.

Speaker 2 (35:25):
Look at your sister.

Speaker 4 (35:26):
She's sitting up.

Speaker 2 (35:27):
No, she's not sitting down. Can we can we just
get dessert?

Speaker 11 (35:31):
Please?

Speaker 2 (35:32):
To the waiter, Can we just get dessert and get
out of here?

Speaker 1 (35:34):
Like?

Speaker 2 (35:34):
Can we can we? Oh, we don't have the video
of dessert.

Speaker 8 (35:37):
I thought we had the video.

Speaker 4 (35:38):
Well I can see, yes we do.

Speaker 2 (35:40):
Go ahead, here's how you.

Speaker 1 (35:43):
Hold her hair back likes sorority girl throwing off.

Speaker 4 (35:47):
She'll get there mic and hopefully her sister will be
there with her.

Speaker 2 (35:53):
Take another bike, man, go for.

Speaker 4 (35:57):
My spirit, gentleman. That was referring to not doing any
of that stuff.

Speaker 1 (36:02):
I obviously I could do my own podcast series on
that Joe Flacco quote like a law of form.

Speaker 4 (36:09):
Robert Redford passed away recently, and he's known mostly to.

Speaker 1 (36:12):
Young people as the gift of him in the Beard
as Jerry and the Jeremiah Johnson movie where he's just
going like.

Speaker 4 (36:17):
This not to me.

Speaker 1 (36:18):
When I heard the Flacco quote, I heard flat you're
one of us, three of the of the sweetest, most
delicate words you'll ever utter as a family man table
for one. Yeah, it's fantastic, And first of all, I
have a wife and two kids. I love going out
to dinner with them. I did it last night. I

(36:39):
do it two hundred times a year. I love a
table for two. It's just my wife. I do it
countless times a year, but it's really like once a year.
You say table for one, and it is so beautiful
and there is nothing else in the table or the
bar other than your drink and your food and your thoughts.

Speaker 4 (36:57):
You know, crans. There's no word searches, none of that.

Speaker 1 (37:00):
And guess what else I'm gonna do when I'm drinking
and eating. I might just sit there on my phone
and look at it and scroll the whole time because
I want to. And then you know what you do
when you finish the meal for one, You go to
a movie by yourself, and you make it a date
with yourself. It's the best. It's only once a year.
Once a year in my adult life, I go to
Fogo de Chao. I sit down, I say table for one.

(37:21):
I have three glasses of wine, I have fifty pounds
of meat. I have a little bit of salad, and
I look forward to it like it is chrisma. It
is that is me at the Fogo. I should have
an Advan caunter that counts down to that, and you
take a little piece of meat out of the little
door all the months of December.

Speaker 4 (37:35):
It's so great. I love it just in small amounts.

Speaker 1 (37:38):
And the fact that Joe Flacco now has entered the
world when he has gone from I feel sorry for that.

Speaker 4 (37:44):
Poor schmuck to God. I would give anything to be
that poor.

Speaker 1 (37:47):
Schmuck, makes him one of us, makes me see him
in a totally new light. And one more time, the
Robert read for Joe Flacco absolutely beautiful.

Speaker 8 (37:57):
I love you.

Speaker 3 (37:58):
I loved you, Jane the beautiful.

Speaker 6 (37:59):
Oh.

Speaker 3 (37:59):
I eat by myself all the time, and I celebrate it.
You are on an island here, my friend. I mean
it is again, that's true.

Speaker 4 (38:06):
I love my kids.

Speaker 3 (38:08):
I enjoy dining with them at home, you know, and
I really like just like sit in your chairs and
if you want to get up, fine, I can't do
it at the establishment thing, Kyle, the beautiful thing about
you creating a podcast series on that Joe Flacco quote
eating by himself is that you wouldn't have to invite
any guests on this podcast series because you wouldn't be
inviting any guests to this meal.

Speaker 1 (38:30):
It's just me solo pod just say he might just
be like Tay, three minutes of silence at a time
table for one.

Speaker 4 (38:37):
It'll be a vibe. You'll be able to feel the vibe.
I just I was.

Speaker 1 (38:42):
Joe Flacco had probably the best playoff run of all time,
and I'm more impressed with this quote than his playoff
run to the super Bowl and the super Bowl MVP
is the Ravens.

Speaker 4 (38:50):
This to me, never mind all that this is his legacy.

Speaker 1 (38:53):
It's not that he was playing the Ravens quarterback and
Joe Lamar.

Speaker 4 (38:56):
Cam He's been on eight teams.

Speaker 1 (38:58):
It is one quote about understanding the joy of eating
by yourself at a restaurant.

Speaker 4 (39:02):
Joe, you are a first ballot Hall of Famer in my.

Speaker 2 (39:04):
And he's ever going to retire.

Speaker 10 (39:06):
He's gonna keep signing a series of one year deals
around the country everywhere except for in the vicinity of
South Jersey.

Speaker 4 (39:13):
That's exactly right where his family is.

Speaker 9 (39:14):
I'm going to find out what date KB goes to
that Pogo Deca, and I'm gonna pop up and then
pop up at his booth like a speed data and
be life.

Speaker 1 (39:22):
There is nothing that he meant you're one of my guys.
You're one of my favorite people in the world. If
you come up to that table, I will pepper spray.

Speaker 4 (39:28):
I don't want you there.

Speaker 7 (39:29):
You're out.

Speaker 4 (39:30):
That is my table. I don't care who comes up
to me. It is my table. Me and the guy
with the spear, and.

Speaker 1 (39:35):
Then that's the only people walk to that table for
one night a year.

Speaker 3 (39:38):
He'll take that spear and he'll use it exactly what
he's gonna do.

Speaker 4 (39:41):
You have to turn the light. No, give me the
spike so I can't spike my brother across the table.
Way away, say away.

Speaker 3 (39:47):
You know, since we're kicking around ideas for new podcast,
Kyle might have one on a solo dining experience. I
might create a new series just on these graphics alone.
Here it is everybody, It's Sunday game in the morning.
It's back nine am Eastern, Rich Eisen and twenty seven
other people. Just kidding. We love all these guys, Mooch
and Kurt and Gerald and Kimmy and rap Sheet and

(40:08):
Mike g and Cynthia and Colleen and Tom Pella Sero
and then are that face that face that doesn't have
any facial hair in this photo? His hair is perfectly
straight up today angular happening today, I think he Kyle Brant,
You're you're shooting a piece on Joe Blacco, but you
have a different quarterback you're talking to for this year.

Speaker 4 (40:27):
Show Yes.

Speaker 1 (40:30):
Tomorrow morning, I have a seven am flight out of LaGuardia.
I'm flying to Tampa and I'm sitting him a Baker Mayfield,
and we're going to go to the facility or I'm
going to sit down here and I one on one.

Speaker 4 (40:39):
I'm going to ask him everything I have planned and more.

Speaker 1 (40:42):
I'm fascinated, and I also think it's really impressive that
last week's game for the Buccaneers was not a great
one at Detroit, and Baker not only did not play
it his best, he was also banged up. And they
kept the commitments easily. They could have said, let's me
do it later in the season. He's like, now, let's
go when I'm ready to stop.

Speaker 4 (40:57):
So I'll be there tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (40:58):
Cool, good for you.

Speaker 4 (40:59):
Yeah, wait, Broll, let's say travels, love you cold over.
Let's go
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