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July 31, 2025 • 37 mins

Hour Two of the Good Morning Football Podcast begins with hosts Jamie Erdahl, Kyle Brandt, Manti Te’o and Will Blackmon examining how the New England Patriots will look with Mike Vrabel. Which 2nd year QB needs to win the most? THROWDOWN THURSDAY - is Dan Campbell or Jim Harbaugh the bigger character? Hall of Fame trivia about the players being inducted into the Hall of Fame this weekend.

 

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Speaker 1 (00:04):
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Speaker 2 (00:10):
Good Morning Football, Hall of Fame game tonight, Hall of
Fame induction for the Class of twenty twenty five this weekend.

Speaker 3 (00:16):
It's all coming up football and we love it.

Speaker 2 (00:18):
We love it in Los Angeles, we love it in
New York. We love it at all the training camps. Thursday,
July thirty. First, we are on the doorstep of August people.
Jimmie heard on Mantai Teo. Kyle Brent Will Blackman at
the table with us for breakfast this morning. Kyle, what
are you looking at this hour?

Speaker 4 (00:32):
Listen?

Speaker 1 (00:32):
I just want to talk about the football game tonight.
There is one Union split Hair said, it's preseason game.

Speaker 4 (00:38):
I cannot wait for this game. I'm gonna, as they say,
I'm gonna rod dog it. I'm not gonna look at
my phone. I'm not gonna watch all the commercials.

Speaker 1 (00:44):
I'm just gonna stare at the screen for all three hours.
And I know the four of us are gonna do
the same. Football time. Baby, Let's go.

Speaker 5 (00:51):
How do you start the show?

Speaker 4 (01:05):
Good Morning Football?

Speaker 2 (01:08):
That's right, it is Good Morning Football.

Speaker 3 (01:09):
Welcome in.

Speaker 2 (01:10):
Good people love to see you this morning, Jamie Mantai, Kyle,
Will Mantisank, get in here, Get in here, Kyle.

Speaker 3 (01:15):
I'm checking on.

Speaker 2 (01:16):
Your emotional energy right now, specifically because I know you
have a big twenty four hours ahead of you. And
by that I mean, like you said, live action football
to be played tonight, it's the Hall of Fame game.
But also tomorrow you are going to pack your lunch
pail and you will not be at that studio for
Good Morning Football. I believe you are going to be
at Giants training camp. And will this be the first

(01:37):
in person interaction you have with Cam Scattaboo.

Speaker 3 (01:40):
How are you feeling about this?

Speaker 6 (01:41):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:42):
Will, Yeah, I feel great. I feel excited. I feel
like a Molly Ringwall at the prom. And I'm just
going to see him at the top of the stairs
and it's going to be incredible. I'm going to see
coach Dable, I hope. I'm going to see maybe Malik neighbors.
Giants camp is fun. It's just close to here in Jersey.
I'm going to sit down. I'm going to ask all
the questions, get all the sights, all the sounds.

Speaker 4 (02:01):
I remember last year we were there and it was
like this.

Speaker 1 (02:03):
Big deal that Daniel Jones was in like a shoving
match with one of the players and everyone was clutching
their pearls. And now Danie Jones Indianapolis. But I will
be there, Scataboo will be there, and it's going to
be like step brothers. We're going to become best friends
and make bunk beds.

Speaker 4 (02:16):
I can't win.

Speaker 2 (02:17):
The GMFP production staff is already emailing the Giant staff
that takes care of field management to see if they
have a lawnmower for Kyle to ride off on after
he hangs out with Cam Scattaboo, I like you all right,
So Kyle's going to Giants tomorrow. We got our fleets
of reporters all over the country for training camp. And
speaking of those guys, Ian Rappaport Mike Grifula joining us

(02:39):
this morning.

Speaker 3 (02:40):
It feels this is like the start of.

Speaker 7 (02:41):
The new year.

Speaker 3 (02:42):
It's rap Sheet.

Speaker 2 (02:43):
It's garifull awesome to see you guys. You are in
the shadows of Foxborough. If I can read that correctly,
I think that's where you are.

Speaker 3 (02:50):
Rap Sheet.

Speaker 8 (02:51):
You are.

Speaker 2 (02:52):
The cameras are panning you, watching you speak with different people.
As a part of the Patriots brass. Did you get
anything new this morning there up in New England.

Speaker 9 (03:00):
Well, one of the best things that happens is you
come here, you come to all these facilities and you
need get to talk to the decision makers and the coaches,
really get a feel for what is happening in this building,
right And you know, if you follow along closely, last
year was not a great year, guys for the New
England Patriots. There were high hopes around this time last
year with Dard Mayow and his coaching staff. Nothing panned out,

(03:21):
not like anyone anticipated. And then you come here and
you kind of learn what Mike Rabel is all about
and why really he was the guy they hired. And
it's not because he was a great linebacker with the
Patriots and then he won.

Speaker 7 (03:33):
Multiple It's really not about that. It's because of.

Speaker 9 (03:36):
How he holds people accountable, the plan he has for everyone,
the way that he gets the let's say bottom thirty
players on the roster to play to their absolute highest
level they possibly can.

Speaker 7 (03:48):
It's the same thing he did in Tennessee early on.

Speaker 9 (03:50):
It's the reason why when the Patriots did their coaching search,
they did a search, but it was pretty clear Mike
Rabel was their number one target, just like this was
Rabel's number one target. And you know, you try to
understand why this is going to be better.

Speaker 7 (04:05):
Here's what I would say.

Speaker 9 (04:07):
Coaching staff is better having Josh McDaniels back.

Speaker 7 (04:10):
Players are certainly going to be improved.

Speaker 9 (04:12):
Drake May in his second year, improved receiving group which
which I know we are going to talk about featuring
Stefan Diggs and Pop Douglas and others. But Rabel coming
in as a professional head coach with a plan for
everything and making sure that the effort like receivers blocking
like crazy. I mean, the effort here that wasn't present
beforehand is now very present. And that is plus for

(04:35):
a lot of optimism in New England.

Speaker 1 (04:36):
I know what you mean, professional head coach. It's not everybody,
it's certainly Mike Rabel.

Speaker 4 (04:41):
Mike.

Speaker 1 (04:42):
There's an interesting dynamic between how good a team was
last year and how the fans feel.

Speaker 4 (04:46):
With the Patriots, their.

Speaker 1 (04:48):
Record was really, really bad, but I feel like the
fans are feeling great and I think that is based
on what they saw from Drake May in year one.

Speaker 4 (04:56):
It was encouraging. What are you seeing? What are you
hearing about this quarterback for your two.

Speaker 10 (05:01):
Well, if you saw anything from Drake May last year,
it was a bonus just because of everything that was
around him. The protection wasn't there, the scheme wasn't great,
the receivers weren't great. I mean, this team was looking
to going back to last year this time we were
talking about them as a.

Speaker 4 (05:13):
Possible landing spot for Brandon Aiyuk.

Speaker 10 (05:15):
They knew they needed to get targets around Drake May,
and that's why they were willing to go to a
place financially with Stefan Diggs coming off an ACL that
maybe some other teams weren't able to do. I think
that's gonna pay off big time because the early returns
are the Stefan Diggs looks great right now as he
works his way and I'm going to say work his
way back into full form, because he is in full form.
So now you get Josh McDaniels in here. You've done

(05:37):
work on the offensive line, Will Campbell as your top
draft pick coming in, and the targets including digs around him,
Mac Collins, who we should see in the near future.
Here the veteran wide receiver. Okay, you just broke it
way to go that was off the record or on backgrounds.
Oh yeah, Mac Collins is coming off pup today. There
you go, breaking news, per Ian. So yeah, listen, it's

(05:59):
all great because you know, Jayden Daniels and some of
these quarterbacks that come in, they hit the ground running.
It used to be that a quarterback had to suffer
for like one or two years in the NFL.

Speaker 4 (06:08):
I mean, right, and sometimes that was it, right what
I'm saying.

Speaker 10 (06:11):
Sometimes that's a good thing, right, because it's like, oh, okay,
you're right here and then everything is up from there.
That's kind of the way it is with Drake Man.
I know that they feel really good about what he's
doing so.

Speaker 7 (06:20):
Far in this camp.

Speaker 4 (06:21):
Rahap sheet.

Speaker 11 (06:21):
So Mike g just talked about somebody I wanted to
refer to in Stefan Diggs. Obviously, he looks like he's
doing well on the football field. There were all there
was all that drama off the field. How is he
adapting to that patriot culture there that Mike Rabel was
trying to instill.

Speaker 9 (06:36):
I think it's safe to say that Stefan Diggs early
on in training camp has exceeded the expectations of the
Patriots just physically, you know, you go back to last season.
I mean it was a significant injury that took him
off the field for the Houston Texans. It was a
torn acl It was the kind of thing where if
you tear your atl in the middle of the season.
A lot of times for guys, you know, you can
practice in training camp, but it really takes you several

(07:00):
games to kind of get back into it.

Speaker 7 (07:01):
It does not feel like that has been the case.

Speaker 9 (07:03):
First, I wonder just personally if he would start, you know,
the year on the pup list didn't came in. Practicing
practice is very hard. I'm actually really looking forward to
seeing him today. One of my favorite practice players, just
because every rep is so important to him. But this
doesn't feel like a guy that's going to be on
a pitch count. This doesn't feel like a guy that's

(07:24):
going to be have to be eased in. It feels
like a star receiver who has you know, really hit
the ground running and and like for for Drake may
to have that guy where you can throw it up
and you know that there's a pretty good chance your
guy comes down with it.

Speaker 7 (07:39):
When you got to have it, like there's not a
lot of those in the league.

Speaker 9 (07:42):
But Stefan Diggs is one, uh and he is really
impressed a new a.

Speaker 10 (07:46):
When you get Stefan Diggs, you get a lot a
lot of the good, you get the extra what, you
get his effort as well, and day in and day out,
he's been doing that so far, and I think that
that's a good example for a lot of guys here
because not only is the phenomenal player, he's willing to
put in the work. One of those receivers that Ian
was talking about blocking, Yeah, thinks sticking his nose right
in there.

Speaker 2 (08:05):
Well, that's how we feel about the insiders on this show.
We throw it up and someone's gonna come down with it,
whether it be breaking the news that Matt Collins is
coming off the pup list. But guys, normally at this
time the second hour of our show on a Thursday,
we're doing throw Down Thursday, which we are going to
do in the second segment of the show. But I
just want to make sure you two aren't gonna throw
hands or throw down because did I catch on social
media yesterday that Gara Folo posted a picture and tagged

(08:30):
the Cleveland Brown's elf and what made it rap sheet.

Speaker 3 (08:34):
Is that what I'm observing here?

Speaker 2 (08:35):
Are you guys sitting too close right now?

Speaker 4 (08:39):
Too much?

Speaker 10 (08:41):
You tell me, rap Sheet, I'm gonna go to Kyle
on that Kyle too much Kyle or just about right?

Speaker 8 (08:46):
What do you think?

Speaker 1 (08:47):
It's never too much with the two of you guys.
I love both of you, but you guys are always
with the switch blades at each other. I don't think
it's too much. And whatever ian Fire's back with won't
be too much.

Speaker 7 (08:58):
Well it'll be a ball joke. Well, yeah, you are
very but actually I saw you walking here today. This
is not even joke.

Speaker 9 (09:04):
Was here before Mike saw I'm walking here, like two
minutes before the hit, and I'm like, that guy is bald,
Like that is a bald man, which I knew obviously
I had just seen you, but just a reminder of
just how bald he is.

Speaker 3 (09:16):
Just the subtle date.

Speaker 4 (09:17):
What you gotta do. You gotta hit Mike where it hurts.

Speaker 1 (09:19):
You got to go to you gotta go to the
eagles and get swooped the eagle who is in fact
a bald eagle, and then it'll be all perfect.

Speaker 10 (09:25):
You guys are said you that's separate, not advertising on
the air.

Speaker 2 (09:34):
Well done, insiders who appreciate you. We will hear more
from you in a little bit. All right, goodbye, every ready,
way goodbye. We are talking about this man. We were
talking about the New England Patriots and that logo that
he is wearing on the vest.

Speaker 3 (09:45):
All right, it's rabel Lead.

Speaker 2 (09:47):
Now that's the experience in New England in Foxborough, Kyle,
what do you make of I might put the word
vibes on my list of things that I hate saying.

Speaker 3 (09:56):
Moving forward?

Speaker 2 (09:57):
What do you get from the mood and attitude of
the verbel led Patriots, Kyle?

Speaker 4 (10:01):
Just like you get from Verbel. It's just it's no bs.

Speaker 1 (10:04):
It's it makes me wonder if, like, if this was
nineteen eighty seven, what would rabel Camp be like. And
you guys there in La you know, there'd be a
lot of live goal line ones versus ones. There'd be
a lot of like tunnel tackling drills and Oklahoma, I
mean they would hit a lot and it would be
kind of Parcelsian, which of course trickled down to Belichecki
in which now trickles down to Rabelian. This is not

(10:27):
a mystery we've seen Mike grab with the Titans. We
know what he's about, we know how effective he is,
and they got him in there. It's exactly they should.
It's kind of like I was saying to Ian and Mike,
you know, for a team that lost so much last year.
I talked to Patriots fans. They're walking on air right now.
You can see other teams that had their record and
it's like, well, you know, hopefully this guy works out.

Speaker 4 (10:47):
Patriots fans are like, oh, we're good, we're good.

Speaker 1 (10:50):
We got the coach, we got a quarterback who can play,
and like we're going to be back soon.

Speaker 4 (10:55):
I don't know when. Like here's my take on the Patriots.

Speaker 1 (10:58):
They're going to be a very sneaky playoff picktent this
day this year, Like people are going to pick that.
I don't know if I'm going to yet, but when
it comes picking time about who's the division winner, who's
the wild card, I think.

Speaker 4 (11:08):
The Patriots are gonna pop up a bunch.

Speaker 1 (11:09):
And that's saying a lot, because never mind their division,
you only get seven AFC teams. So I still think
they're going to be the trendy team to pick, and
I think it's going to be ninety percent because of
their coach and quarterback.

Speaker 12 (11:21):
Yeah, I love that because I feel when I look
at coach Rabel, he's the type where he maximized everything
he has, and as a coach, he's the perfect balance
of being a coachable I mean, being approachable and holding
guys accountable. And I go back to you know, twenty
twenty one, they had about ninety one injuries, like ninety
injuries on that roster, and they still got the number
one seed and end up beating the Patriots and beating

(11:45):
the Ravens in the playoffs that year. And he does
a good job also in terms of like that that greediness,
that toughness, that that entire thing. He's flexible when it
comes to what the coordinators want to do.

Speaker 6 (11:55):
He does a great job of just adjusting overall.

Speaker 12 (11:58):
So I believe right now he's going to maximize everything
on that Patriots team. And I won't be surprised. They
sneak up in the AC.

Speaker 11 (12:05):
I mean, you hear what they say, he makes the
bottom thirty better, you know, so well, it's your point,
he's going to maximize that. What I think when I
listened to Mike Ga and rap sheet Talk, they said
a word multiple times, and that's effort. Like when you're
going to look at this Patriot teams this year, you
think you're going to see a lot of effort.

Speaker 8 (12:20):
Just look at the guys they signed.

Speaker 11 (12:21):
I mean one of my favorite, I mean favorite linebackers,
underrated KB, Robert Splaine, Like Robert Splaine just put next
to his name effort. Like the guy just plays with
tremendous effort. And I think he's he's probably coached. Verbel's
probably thinking of the time where Robert Splaine met Derrick
Henry in the backfield on the goal line, Like that's
the type of identity that I think he wants his

(12:43):
team to have. So I'm excited for them. I too
think that the Patriots are going to be a team
that we got to watch coming out of that division
because of how they're built and where they're going and
how their head coach kind of takes his teams. Jamie
year to year and it being his first year back
in New England.

Speaker 2 (12:59):
Well, we're certainly still looking under the hood at Drake
May obviously and what he can bring. But it's it's
that whole lasts of quarterbacks from last season entering your
second year. Caleb Williams a part of that conversation, so
on and so forth. Yesterday we were talking about the
Bears and Kyle said, year two is the new year
five for quarterbacks. It's like bootcut jeans is the new flare.
Look like you have to just move the meter as

(13:21):
things go on for that term. Year two is the
new year five. But let's apply that to Broncos quarterback
Bone Nicks, who agreed that expectations are higher for qbs
entering that sophomore season.

Speaker 4 (13:35):
Guys, year two for quarterbacks is the new year five.
Just just look around at what's going on. You have
to keep up. Joe Burrow was in the Super Bowl
in his second year.

Speaker 1 (13:44):
All these guys that he's competing with are going to
be competing with. It's you don't wait, there's no It's
not like when I was a kid and you sit
for a backup for a couple of years, then there's
a warm up year and another warm up year, and
now you're in your prime.

Speaker 4 (13:54):
No no, no, no, no, that's all changed. And that all
changed when Mahomes.

Speaker 1 (13:57):
Took the field in his second year and was about
to beat Brady in the title game. The standards are different.
I don't care that he is a new coach. I
don't care that he has to gel with the new players.
It's time you win in your second year or we
start looking.

Speaker 13 (14:11):
You're running the huddle, you're uptempoing things. You're getting praised
from Sean Payton, not to mention, you're getting praised from
other players around the league. I was just at Eagles
training camp this week. Lane Johnson is talking about you,
unprompted to meet. Zach Bond is telling me complimenting you
as well.

Speaker 3 (14:28):
What is that like for you?

Speaker 13 (14:29):
Having gone from a year where people were not sure
what to expect to now this is your team.

Speaker 4 (14:37):
Well that's pretty awesome.

Speaker 10 (14:38):
To be acknowledged by your peers is always a good
sign of respect.

Speaker 4 (14:42):
Means you're doing the right thing.

Speaker 2 (14:45):
Second, your quarterback, you have to win. You have to
win now. It's the new year five. We've coined that. Now,
will I believe you have to answer this question? First
second year quarterback? Who needs to win now?

Speaker 3 (14:56):
The most I'm.

Speaker 6 (14:58):
Going to say, I'm gonna say JJ McCarthy's the second year.

Speaker 12 (15:01):
Is he coming far?

Speaker 11 (15:02):
Count?

Speaker 6 (15:02):
Can I say that you?

Speaker 1 (15:03):
Now?

Speaker 12 (15:03):
I want to him because you look at what Minnesota
has done overall as a team in the past couple
of years, he's essentially been like renting quarterbacks. And I
could say, you know, Kirk Cousins was there for a bit,
had had the short term a guaranteed deal, and you know,
ended up taking him to the playoffs. And then you know,
you go get Sam Donald and he's able to do
the same thing, take the team to the playoffs. And

(15:25):
just overall defensively, you know they are they are sound.
You have all standing guys. As a receiver, obviously right now,
Justin Jefferson is nursing a hamstring, But I think right
now that team is designed to continue to soar, and
with him at the quarter position, I just feel like
we need to know like can you be the guy?

Speaker 6 (15:43):
Are you going to are you going to be that
guy for the future?

Speaker 12 (15:45):
And so I think right now, for him, he has
to have a situation where he got to win this
year and got to prove that he's going to be
the guy for the long run.

Speaker 6 (15:53):
So I think right now it's JJ McCarthy.

Speaker 8 (15:55):
Yeah, JJ McCarthy.

Speaker 11 (15:56):
It's hard to come into that situation after what the
Vikings did last year with Sam Donald and Kevin O'Connell
leading them. But I got to go off of what
kb's KB said yesterday. It's got to be Caleb Williams
for me. I think if you're the number one overall pick,
if you're coming to a situation that Matt Eberflu has
had for you and it didn't pan out. Now there's
all of this, it's almost like excuses that may have transpired,

(16:18):
whether it's from Caleb or not. But now you have
one of the best offensive minds as you're head coach,
somebody who's been in that division for years now, who
knows that division very well. So you don't really have
those excuses to lean back on now, like it's time
to it, it's time to compete, it's time, it's time
to do well. And you have a lot of offensive
weapons around you.

Speaker 8 (16:36):
Now.

Speaker 11 (16:36):
KB said this yesterday. You could have everything, but if
you can't keep him on his feet, he's not going
to be worth worth anything. So I'm thinking that Caleb Williams,
out of all of these talented year two quarterbacks, has
to win now, and he has to do it for
himself and for the city of Chicago.

Speaker 1 (16:52):
Yeah, I mean, the Chicago Bears are saying we just
stocked the fridge, the cupboard, the freezer, the freezer in
the garage. Don't tell me we got nothing to eat,
Like we got everything you could possibly ever want to eat.

Speaker 4 (17:03):
You go and something. That's your job. Now.

Speaker 1 (17:06):
Both of those answers are a good and accurate and everything.
Let me throw you a curveball. You know who has
a kind of an interesting dynamic this year? Pennix in Atlanta,
Michael Penix Junior. This is we haven't seen.

Speaker 4 (17:17):
A ton of them. We don't know that much.

Speaker 1 (17:19):
I mean, we all say so much, how we haven't
seen m McCarthy. And it's true, Pennix, we haven't seen
a lot of either. And let me just this is
this is pessimistic, but this is football. If I gave
you a scenario where the Atlanta Falcons came out at
two and three and Pennix was not playing well and
he was having these rookie troubles and everything, and is
there any scenario where like the Kirk Cousin's sitting there

(17:39):
on the bench any at all, Like maybe it's not
two and three, maybe it's two and five, maybe it's
two and six. Because what you'd never want to do
is put him out there and like, well it's not
going great.

Speaker 4 (17:50):
Get back out of here. It's that's a.

Speaker 1 (17:52):
Bad, bad business, and we've seen it recently with the
Colts and Anthony Richardson, but also like you didn't win
last year as the Falcons, and your head coach has
got to win games. So he's the only one of
these guys I can see who has as like a
real sort of viable kind of threat behind him and
a guy that is not only experiencing good and cousins.

Speaker 4 (18:12):
But it is making so much money.

Speaker 1 (18:14):
It's very different than like Caleb Williams is not getting
benched this year. I don't think JJ McCarthy's getting bench
it's we got you or you don't.

Speaker 4 (18:25):
I don't think.

Speaker 1 (18:25):
Pennix is getting benched, but I can see a scenario
where he would, and that's just a different kind of
pressure than the other dudes have.

Speaker 3 (18:31):
It's a great point, Kyle, Yeah, it's the money.

Speaker 2 (18:33):
It's it's honestly the storyline that people have fallen in
love with with Kirk Cousins and watching him on Netflix
repeatedly and the injury come back. I just don't know
if there is an attachment to the Michael Pennock Junior
story and a lot of that has to do if
you're just a general football fan, do you love it?
And how do you want to see that arc unfold?
Look at those two, they're going to have to go
head to head and the rest of that draft classroom

(18:54):
last season of quarterbacks. This season, we're going to see
who needs to win most and who.

Speaker 3 (18:58):
Will throw down Thursday time.

Speaker 2 (19:03):
We had to move his segment out of the segment
that included micro follow and Ian rappaporting case like they
actually started to throw down, like the rock and robots
that we have going at it to other during this segment.

Speaker 3 (19:12):
Okay, it's still.

Speaker 2 (19:13):
Happening on GMFB because it's a Thursday, and that's when
we like to bicker about things in honor of the
teams playing in tonight's Hall of Fame game. Which one
of these head coaches has a bigger character on and
off the field personality?

Speaker 4 (19:29):
What have you?

Speaker 3 (19:30):
You pick it?

Speaker 2 (19:31):
Jim Harbaugh or Dan Campbell? Will who's got who's the
bigger character?

Speaker 6 (19:36):
You know what?

Speaker 12 (19:37):
This one seems obvious. It seems very very obvious when
when you look at Harbor. But I'm gonna go Dan Campbell.

Speaker 4 (19:44):
It takes.

Speaker 12 (19:44):
It takes a special personality to resurrect, not even.

Speaker 6 (19:49):
Resurrect, to bring our franchise alive. Well, book, you don't know.

Speaker 12 (19:52):
I am a closet Lions fan Diehard my whole life
and for him, for him to do that with that franchise,
it is authentic and it's just him. There were no brothers,
there's no father that set the tone for the whole family.
It is just him alone. It wasn't scripted to be
biting kneecaps.

Speaker 6 (20:11):
It was legit. That was him.

Speaker 12 (20:13):
The toughest guy in the NFL, crying at the podium, yeah,
literally every single week to get guys inspired, to get
guys motivated to do that.

Speaker 6 (20:22):
I just love his.

Speaker 12 (20:23):
Authentic, true energy and it takes a special kind of
character for that to happen with me. Like Dan Campbell.
I guess again, I don't know who else can do
that in Detroit.

Speaker 6 (20:33):
Nobody.

Speaker 11 (20:33):
Yeah, it's hard man. This is such a great comparison.
I love Dan Campbell. I was with him in New
Orleans and.

Speaker 8 (20:40):
He does have he had that big character. But I
gotta go Jim Harbo.

Speaker 11 (20:44):
And the reason why I got to go Jim Harboy
is when I look at Dan Campbell.

Speaker 8 (20:47):
Dan Campbell's like the.

Speaker 11 (20:48):
Rock to me, like he can only play one role,
you know what I mean, Like he can't never be
he can't be the bad guy.

Speaker 8 (20:53):
He can only be the good guy or the hero
in the movie.

Speaker 4 (20:56):
You know. That's like the Rock.

Speaker 11 (20:57):
And then you got like Denzel Washington, which to me
is like Jim Harbor, where he can he can do
it all. There's so many different sides to this man,
Like he could be an a very an encourager, a
guy who empowers you but then you he could also
be a pain in your side at times. And he
has so many different personalities to him that makes him
so intriguing and for Jamie and I to be able
to sit with him and get to know him a

(21:18):
little bit and have those conversations like we went down
what's going on now? We went down what was going down?
When he recruited me. He even remembered the meal we
gave him, you know, just a whole bunch of stuff,
a plethora of memories. I gotta go with Jim Harbaugh
because he just seems like so many different people all
mixed into one.

Speaker 1 (21:36):
Yeah, yeah, well I see the actor com for Jim
Harbaugh being like Joaquin Phoenix or Crispin Glover just like
one hundred percent on original, original and like very odd.
And I say that as a compliment. That's what makes
him him.

Speaker 4 (21:51):
The bigger Like bigger character.

Speaker 1 (21:54):
Is Dan Campbell, but I think like the deeper character
is Jim Harbaugh. Dan Campbell is a type. He is
an archetype, and it's unusual for a coach.

Speaker 4 (22:02):
But he's a big.

Speaker 1 (22:03):
Ass dude who roy packs, dips, loves metallica like probably
likes drinking beers. Fine, that's there's a lot of guys
like that. He's maybe the best one, but there's a
lot of guys like that. There ain't nobody like Jim Harbaugh.
You want evidence of that.

Speaker 4 (22:16):
He literally has a brother who's a head coach who
is nothing like him. Nothing.

Speaker 1 (22:21):
They were raised by the same parents, in the same household,
and somehow Jim is so different than John.

Speaker 4 (22:26):
I don't know how that happened.

Speaker 1 (22:28):
It's just because something about Jim I don't know. He
is unbelievably original. I can find you people. I can
go to an Irish pub here in Manhattan and find
you three guys like Dan Campbell. I can't scour the
planet Earth and find anybody like Jim Harbaugh in the
history of time.

Speaker 4 (22:42):
So it's Jim Harbaugh.

Speaker 6 (22:44):
Because here's my thing.

Speaker 12 (22:45):
I look at I look at Jack Harbaugh as like
Martin Sheen, right, and then you have you know, you
have Charlie Sheen, you have a million Estevez like that's
the family. So yeah, it already starts so on the
top with Dan Campbell, he is he's one of one.

Speaker 4 (22:59):
One, he is himself. He is himself.

Speaker 1 (23:02):
But I would say that's a good example because Charlie
is nothing like Amelio. Like Charlie lives on planet Charlie.
I don't know what he's up to these days, but.

Speaker 4 (23:09):
That's like they're so so so different.

Speaker 1 (23:12):
Dan Campbell is a Melio in this regard, and Charlie
she and is Harbor at least back in the day
before he was canceled like six times. So I hear
what you're saying. This is a great topic, Jamie. I
would go with Harball.

Speaker 2 (23:22):
I think also, Kyle, to your point, like the fact
that we're even able to have a Dan Campbell lookalike contest, which.

Speaker 3 (23:28):
Does happen in Detroit.

Speaker 2 (23:29):
Yes, that's just like the physicality side of it. Like
people can recreate what he's got going on. You can't
really do what Jim Harbaugh look like. He's so he
kind of looks like a bunch of people, but his
personality is one of one. All right, next topic, I'm
throwing on Thursday saying, with this Detroit Los Angeles theme
here for the show, we are going to inspect two

(23:50):
different heart throbs from the eras in which they lived. Okay,
we're looking at Detroit and we're looking at La Taylor.
Latner is a huge Lions fan, cute.

Speaker 3 (24:02):
As is Mario Lopez for the Chargers.

Speaker 2 (24:05):
That's the parallel here, all right, Lautner with the Lions,
Lopez with the Chargers. Who was the bigger teenage heart
throb at the time that they were at their peak?
Lautner during the Twilight Jacob or Edward or Lopez from
the ac Slater whatever his character name was saved by
the Bellera.

Speaker 6 (24:23):
Well, this is a weird conversation.

Speaker 4 (24:26):
Why no, it's easy.

Speaker 3 (24:28):
I explained the parallel.

Speaker 6 (24:29):
I explained MI, good morning football. Well listen, I'm here
for it.

Speaker 12 (24:33):
Okay, I signed up for the season, by the way,
you know again, I'm gonna starts.

Speaker 6 (24:38):
It's easy tomorrow. My kids.

Speaker 12 (24:41):
Both my kids have dimples, you know, they love. My
kids are adorable, awesome. But I'm gonna go. I'm gonna
go with Taylor. I mean it was a were wolf. Okay,
like dude, there's only two people I can think of
that had.

Speaker 6 (24:54):
A chance with the ladies who was a were wolf.

Speaker 12 (24:56):
First one is Michael Jackson and Thriller who actually walked away.
And then you have Taylor who wears a were wolf
man tie oh werewolf?

Speaker 8 (25:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 12 (25:04):
And then and plus I would say too, uh, you
know Mario had he had a lot of competition back then,
you got JTT you know, holding it down. You know,
you have my Wahlberg back then. I mean he had
a lot of competition. And right now with Taylor, Taylor
was was the guy put on people put.

Speaker 6 (25:20):
On thirty pounds, okay, thirty.

Speaker 12 (25:22):
Pounds for that character. So Taylor lawner. Also I gained
some wine too, So I got to representative.

Speaker 13 (25:27):
I like that.

Speaker 11 (25:28):
I like that, and I got to echo the same
thing because I remember it was middle school when the
whole school was talking about you team Jacob Er team Edward.

Speaker 8 (25:35):
I think it was like the vampire guy.

Speaker 11 (25:36):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that was a whole my whole
middle school experience for for all the girls, it's like,
who are you for me? I At first I looked
at Team Jacob as I like, Team Jacob is a
little bit more rugged and all of that. But then
as I got older, I actually like Team Edward. He's
he just lets all the the werewolves do crazy stuff.

Speaker 8 (25:54):
He's I'm good.

Speaker 11 (25:55):
You know, He's more of a guy that separates himself
from the drama. So I got to go with this
throwdown Thursday. I gotta go with Team Jacob and Taylor Lautner. Okay,
Team Edward now is Batman too? That's really had a
glow up.

Speaker 4 (26:08):
I love Taylor. We know him a little bit on
the show.

Speaker 1 (26:11):
I know him a little bit his lovely wife Taylor,
love her too.

Speaker 4 (26:14):
I will tell a short story.

Speaker 1 (26:15):
In two thousand and six, I was a single man
living in Los Angeles and I went on a date
with this girl. He was really nice. Date went well,
went out to dinner, had some fun whatever, good date,
quality date. A couple days later, I say, hey, let's
go out.

Speaker 4 (26:28):
You want to go out again, Let's go out tomorrow night.

Speaker 1 (26:32):
And she says, oh great, let's do it. So we
got plates plans to going a second date. She calls
me like an hour before I was supposed to go
pick her up, and she says she's just not feeling
well and can't go out, and she's it's kind of
like a horse voice, and let's do it another time.
I was like, oh, okay, no problem. So I go
out anyway, and I go out to dinner with some
of my friends. We're sitting at this restaurant in Los Angeles.

(26:53):
I think the restaurant was called Magnolia, and my friends
and I are sitting around.

Speaker 4 (26:57):
We're just doing whatever. We're young guys, drinking, eat and whatever.
And one of my friends goes, dude.

Speaker 1 (27:01):
Dude, dude, look look look look And I go what
And I look up and the girl is walking into
the restaurant on the arm of Mario Lopez. She canceled
with me, and she faked being sick because she got
a better offer from Slater and walked into the same

(27:24):
dann there he is. How the hell was I supposed
to compete with that? That's an incredible thing. And look
at that in the tank top. And I will tell
you this about Lopez over Lautner. Lopez didn't have social
media and Instagram with which to propel his hunkiness.

Speaker 4 (27:39):
All right.

Speaker 1 (27:40):
His Instagram was called Tiger Beat, and he was on
the cover pretty much every single week with Jason Priestley,
and that's how he was doing it back in the day.
But when I saw her walking with him, I wasn't
even mad. I was like, of course I would have
canceled with me to go with Slay. I don't blame
you at all. I totally respect her, I respect him.
I can just lay down my sword and say, you
know what, Slater, you take it home.

Speaker 2 (28:02):
Kyle, if you're telling me this happened in the circa
two thousand and six era and Mario Lopez usurped.

Speaker 3 (28:10):
You for a date to take somebody out on the town, a.

Speaker 2 (28:13):
Woman in which I believe would probably be in like
the Hollywood environment, Are you going to tell us who
the woman is?

Speaker 1 (28:20):
Not only am I not going to tell you, I'm
going to tell you that the woman is a public
figure as well, Ashy, and I will not disclose the.

Speaker 4 (28:26):
Name, because then it becomes a whole thing. There's the
public figure, and you know what.

Speaker 1 (28:32):
This public figure also, I believe, ended up marrying an
NFL player who we all know.

Speaker 4 (28:37):
So I'm going to stop there. I don't know where
the legal thing goes.

Speaker 6 (28:42):
That's a.

Speaker 4 (28:44):
Kicking my feet under different variables.

Speaker 2 (28:47):
I'm not going to come down on either side of
the fence about this throatdown Thursday, but i will say
that if you were making a NFL fan all BICEP team,
I think you'd have to put Mario Lopez on it.

Speaker 3 (28:56):
Just by the red tank top im shirt alone in
and of.

Speaker 2 (29:00):
Itself picture it's fantastic throwdown Thursday, always a classic. And
in the commercial break we will find out who that
public figure is and we will tell no one Kyle Brandt.
We will return on GMFB. Look at that crew Hall
or Nothing for them, it's the Hall. It's happening this weekend,
can't Ohio? These four gentlemen whose faces and in their

(29:23):
era of infinite talent in the NFL is put on
a popsicle stick for this following trivia category of.

Speaker 3 (29:31):
This show, Hall or Nothing.

Speaker 2 (29:33):
The statements will be said about these four gentlemen going
into the Hall of Fame this weekend, and we will
have to You will all decide, show your popsicle stick
if it is Jared Allen, if it is Sterling Sharp,
if it is Antonio Gates, or if it is Eric Allen,
tell me about that statement and who it applies to. Okay, well,
the first these are man tis here we are the
first Hall or Nothing trivia statement is I have a

(29:57):
published cookbook?

Speaker 5 (29:59):
Who am I?

Speaker 6 (30:01):
Public books?

Speaker 3 (30:02):
Very simple? It's a big time a complish. I have
a published cookbook.

Speaker 8 (30:07):
That seems like I got mine.

Speaker 3 (30:10):
I three two one ay. Ay, that's Jared Allen three
times across the board, and you all are correct.

Speaker 8 (30:17):
Let's go.

Speaker 3 (30:17):
Jared Allen is an average chef. Look at it. Juggling
bell peppers.

Speaker 2 (30:23):
Yes, he published a cookbook back in twenty ten, and
the book features recipes such as wild boar ragou, of course,
and rattlesnake croquette.

Speaker 3 (30:33):
I love a croquette. Have never had rattlesteak in it.
That's perfect. Jared Allen front of the show.

Speaker 2 (30:38):
Congratulations once again of this weekend, and well done on
your bell pepper juggling number two disco boys. I am
known to play more than two hundred rounds of golf
in a year.

Speaker 3 (30:51):
It's a lot of golf.

Speaker 2 (30:52):
But when you are a future Hall of Famer and
you probably played a pretty long en a bulk career.

Speaker 3 (30:56):
Got to keep the hips, Lee.

Speaker 4 (30:57):
I don't think it's Jared Allen.

Speaker 8 (30:59):
I don't think it's Katesy.

Speaker 6 (31:01):
How are you going through to on?

Speaker 1 (31:02):
Are you go here?

Speaker 4 (31:03):
I'm to have a little rat channel too, Jamie to flesh.

Speaker 3 (31:05):
It out to Eric Allens.

Speaker 1 (31:07):
This guy is an incredible athlete who has been out
of football for a really long time.

Speaker 4 (31:11):
You know Sterling's story.

Speaker 1 (31:12):
His career was cut short and maybe he transitioned into
golf and in there has become to the point where
he play two hundred round a year.

Speaker 4 (31:19):
But you guys both have Eric Allen.

Speaker 12 (31:20):
Yeah, he seems just real chill, like, like he'd just
be chilling Vegas playing golf and Kyle.

Speaker 2 (31:26):
Isn't it Sterling is like the like more quiet, kind
of keeps himself kind of personality.

Speaker 3 (31:31):
That is that accurate?

Speaker 6 (31:33):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (31:33):
Yeah, well that's Listen.

Speaker 1 (31:35):
I mean people compare him to his brother, who is
the opposite of that. Okay, but like he is a
very loud, outspoken person as well. He used to be
on this very network, so he's not a wallflower. But
I can see him on the golf That.

Speaker 6 (31:45):
Makes sense because he needed a new challenge. That's like
he need a new challenge.

Speaker 3 (31:48):
You might be right, Kyle's right. You all had the
first one, right. Kyle's right on this one.

Speaker 2 (31:51):
Sterling Sharpe once attempted to qualify for the twenty seventeen
US Senior Open, but he finished just four strokes off.

Speaker 3 (31:59):
Didn't make enough putts per his own analysis.

Speaker 4 (32:02):
Great athlete, athlete.

Speaker 3 (32:04):
Okay, moving on number three.

Speaker 2 (32:08):
My grandfather was a professional boxer, and that professional boxer
had forty career knockouts.

Speaker 8 (32:16):
Forty career knockouts professional boxer randfather. I'm going to go here.

Speaker 4 (32:22):
I'm going here. I'm going to go here because I
just you know, the number one.

Speaker 1 (32:27):
Thing that was always said about Antonio Gates and.

Speaker 4 (32:29):
His career is that he played basketball as well.

Speaker 1 (32:31):
So I feel like he already has it in his
lineage to play different sports and be versatile.

Speaker 4 (32:36):
Plus he's powerful and athletic.

Speaker 1 (32:37):
I don't know this, I've never heard this fact, but
I'm going to guess it's somebody in the Gates family.

Speaker 2 (32:41):
Henry Hank was a professional boxer in the nineteen fifties
and sixties. He had sixty two wins, including forty knockouts
as a middleweight and lightweight, and he is also Antonio
Gates grandfather.

Speaker 3 (32:53):
Here it is, look at it putting that up for
Henry Hank.

Speaker 1 (32:56):
That's how Kyle is right, gatesy really Gates was so
quiet year.

Speaker 3 (33:02):
All right, Paul or nothing.

Speaker 2 (33:04):
Here's a current scoreboard as it stands.

Speaker 6 (33:06):
I think board.

Speaker 3 (33:08):
Of course there is Kyle Branton the league.

Speaker 4 (33:09):
Do we even need to show the scoreboard?

Speaker 2 (33:12):
Well, you'd be yelling at the production if we didn't,
so we have to.

Speaker 3 (33:14):
Yes, here we are.

Speaker 2 (33:17):
I once served as the grand Marshal of a sweet
Onion Festival parade.

Speaker 8 (33:22):
Sweet Onion festival. That sounds onion.

Speaker 3 (33:24):
There's a sweet Onion festival.

Speaker 2 (33:26):
They have a parade, and this Hall of Famer is
the grand marshal of it at Marshall.

Speaker 8 (33:31):
That's something that Jared. I think this sounds like some
It sounds like something Jared would be doing. Some festival
and sweet Onion. What is that a county?

Speaker 1 (33:40):
Well, this is a funny part of the game because
we've had three of the four as answers, so you
would think it'd be the four you think.

Speaker 4 (33:46):
I think of Jared Allen.

Speaker 1 (33:47):
He has Idaho roots, so I think of that as
more of a potato than in Idaho than an onion.

Speaker 4 (33:53):
So I'm gonna go against my instinct. I'm gonna say it's.

Speaker 12 (33:57):
Back to was gonna say Sterling sweet Onion. I'm thinking yeah,
I mean, like, but the chef Allen has been answered yet.

Speaker 2 (34:05):
Kyle makes a good point about the scoreboard. We do
not really need it because it is Sterling Sharp. He
served as the grand marshall for the Glenville Sweet Onion
Festival Parade in twenty twelve. That year, Sterling Sharp's old
high school actually renamed their football field to Sharp Field.

Speaker 4 (34:21):
KB. Hold on, you said you was going to go
against your instinct.

Speaker 8 (34:24):
What did your instinct tell you? First?

Speaker 1 (34:27):
Well, I just I don't feel like Sterling would show
up for the Onion parade like he. I don't know,
that just feels like he's a little more serious than that.
So I was saying against that. I thought maybe it
was Jared Allen. I thought maybe it was gonna be Allen.
But then I zagged, I don't know. You know what
I'll do on this one. I'm going to choose my answer,
and at the last second, I'm going to choose someone else,
like deliberately.

Speaker 4 (34:48):
Try to get it wrong and see if I still
get it right.

Speaker 2 (34:50):
And at Kyle, when you do that, put the one
that you were going to do off to the side,
and then tell us who you thought it was going
to be, just in case we know that you were
right in the first Yeah, ye, all right, all right,
this one feels really broad, so bear with me.

Speaker 8 (35:02):
Yeah, please.

Speaker 2 (35:03):
I was inducted into the San Diego Hall of Fame.
My brain went, san Diego, would so.

Speaker 1 (35:10):
Just say Diego big like a producer, Man Ti big,
like a producer, san.

Speaker 4 (35:16):
Diego Hall of Fame.

Speaker 8 (35:20):
I mean, all right, that's the tone.

Speaker 4 (35:25):
I think. My instinct is to go that they're trying
to make you think it's a trick question, but it's not.

Speaker 1 (35:31):
So I'm gonna say. I was going to say I
would put up Antonio Gates. Okay, that was my answer.
But I promise you guys, I would deliberately go with something.

Speaker 4 (35:38):
I don't think it's going to be the answer. So
I will go with Eric Allen to.

Speaker 6 (35:43):
Look at av there's nothing.

Speaker 2 (35:45):
Well, let me let me further just tell you that
the it's San Diego is the home of the break
Guard Hall of Fame, which honors local athletes and as
part of the Hall of Champions.

Speaker 3 (35:55):
Put your thing up.

Speaker 2 (35:56):
If that's what you're coming in with a multi sport
museum celebrating athletic achievements.

Speaker 3 (36:01):
Everybody final answer, put them up on them.

Speaker 2 (36:05):
Eric Allen entered the San Diego Bright Bart Hall of
Fame in two thousand and nine. At Point Loma High School,
Alan was an All Conference running back and defensive back
who led.

Speaker 3 (36:16):
His team to a championship in nineteen eighty two. Even
when he tries to be wrong, it.

Speaker 6 (36:21):
Wasn't trying to be wrong.

Speaker 12 (36:22):
I was.

Speaker 4 (36:24):
He was not reversed. And it's really now where Eric
is from, this is really.

Speaker 3 (36:32):
I feel like people have told you this before. To
block out the noise.

Speaker 4 (36:35):
This is really nice.

Speaker 3 (36:35):
You've got to turn down.

Speaker 11 (36:36):
They It's like Kyle is my defensive coordinator in my
ear telling me stuff, and I'm like, I don't know what,
what do you want?

Speaker 4 (36:45):
I got to just audible? Okay, did you have another question? Jamie?

Speaker 8 (36:48):
Were done?

Speaker 4 (36:49):
Next time, I'm just.

Speaker 8 (36:50):
Going to audible.

Speaker 4 (36:52):
I'm sorry, guys, No, I'm sorry. It's not fine.

Speaker 12 (36:56):
If I get him all right, listen, I didn't get whooked,
so I'm good.

Speaker 4 (37:00):
There we go.

Speaker 8 (37:00):
I don't want to.

Speaker 3 (37:02):
It's a good group right there.

Speaker 2 (37:04):
Jared Allen Sterling sharp, Antonio Gates Sterling Sharp. Congratulations to
you guys and Eric Allen you're going in this weekend
Haul or Nothing trivia. I'm telling you, we got to
come up with something to beat Kyle Brand that we
got not
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