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It's Tuesday, January twenty.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
First, here's akbar bodsh to be a Mellipeter Figger, Kyle Bright.
I'm Jamie Erdol. First's address the news that came out yesterday.
Good morning to Tom Pelsero, our NFL network insider are
assigned to us today. Teams are beginning to make some
decisions and speaking of history books, the Windy City made
one yesterday as their new head coach has been decided upon.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
A Windy City win, Jamie ben Johnson is set to
become the Chicago Bears head coach. The top candidate in
this cycle, the top target for the Bears. He had
multiple op tuities. The Raiders made a strong offer. They
made a push to m Ben Johnson. He also interviewed
with the Jacksonville Jaguars before Ben Johnson. There were a
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lot of reasons that he always thought Chicago was where
he wanted to be. Starts out with the quarterback Caleb Williams,
who he is now going to be charged with developing.
They got tons of cap space, They've got extra draft
resources as an iconic franchise in a big city where
they're hoping to break ground on a stadium as soon
as this year. For the Bears, they obviously have been
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through some tumultuous years, particularly in twenty twenty four the
in season firings of their offensive coordinator and their head
coach in Ben Johnson, the Bears feel like they got
a guy who's going to be able to push Caleb Williams.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
To the next level.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
He obviously has shown a lot in his years as
the Detroit Lions offensive coordinator. He also has the opportunity
potentially to put a very strong staff around himself when
the Maye. Keep in mind former Saints coach Dennis Allen,
a top candidate to be the defense'sive coordinator. But the
headline item Jabi no doubt the Chicago Bears have their
new head coach.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
It's the one so many.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
Fans, certainly the organization had been wanting Ben Johnson staying
in the NFC North and headed to Chicago.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
Yeah, other teams, I'm sure in the division. The Vikings
and Packers allions. They don't love the fact that some
one of their coaches is going to stay in this division.
Ben Johnson sticking in Chicago, Todd Peli, Sarah, thank you
so much. We're going to address the Aaron Glenn thing
as well, because that might be happening down the street.
We're going to talk to Peter about that in a
couple of minutes, but let's start with Chicago. Let's start
with Ben Johnson and our thoughts that he will be
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the first the new head coach of the Chicago Bears.
Speaker 5 (02:42):
Peter, how did this come to be?
Speaker 6 (02:44):
I think Tom's right. It's a win for the Windy City,
and this was the number one candidate. To me, you
don't go squint too hard when you see that every
team is coping this guy for two three years and
he chooses the Chicago Bears.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
That's a win.
Speaker 6 (02:57):
When he chooses the Chago Bears when he had other options,
so many options that he declined to even interview with
some of these teams that would have given him the job.
It's based on what he's done the last few years.
It came down to Raiders and Bears. From what I'm
gathering and I know Tom and Ian have a lot
of reports on this as well.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Raiders.
Speaker 6 (03:13):
The attractive part was it's a clean slate. You have
Tom Brady, you got no GM. I can walk in
and I can be the voice and we can craft
and mold this thing together.
Speaker 7 (03:23):
But there wasn't Caleb Williams.
Speaker 6 (03:25):
He goes to Chicago, where it's Caleb Williams. It's an
amazing fan base and a GM and Ryan Pouls who
I'm told they have a relationship.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
They have overlap the resumes.
Speaker 6 (03:34):
They don't line up exactly, but they both were graduate
assistants at Boston College.
Speaker 7 (03:38):
There's a connection there. They have a lot of mutual friends.
Speaker 6 (03:41):
And this started leaking out even earlier in like October November,
that Ben Johnson had his eyes on that job and
Caleb Williams, and if you remember some of the play
calls in Chicago at the end of the season, Kyle
and I came out were like, that's interesting. That was
in front of that owner and that GM, and maybe
that was a statement saying, hey, you can have this.
I have no cynical take, no skeptical take. We'll see
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how it plays out, obviously, but on paper, the guy
who said no thanks to jobs in the past and
chose to not even interview with some teams this candidate process.
I think that's a major win for him to say
I want the Bears.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Should I do the cynical, skeptical to cool. I'm not
doing that.
Speaker 8 (04:18):
There is no I don't have it. I don't come
to me for that today. I'm shocked. I'm impressed they're
say I'm proud and I'm very excited. My thoughts from
the onset of this coach in search, and I've said
it over and over, you guys know, was that the
Bears were going to do something surprising. They're going to
hire someone surprising, And in the end I was right,
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because they did. I can't believe that they got this guy.
They didn't hire Mike McCarthy on his third stop. They
didn't hire a defensive coach on his second stop.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
They hired the most wanted.
Speaker 8 (04:52):
Coach on his first stop, with the idea that it
will be his last stop.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
But what I love, Peter hit this.
Speaker 8 (04:59):
It isn't just that the Bears chose Johnson. Johnson chose
of Bears. He chose Caleb Williams, he chose to stay
in the North, and we were told. Believe me, I
know some of the same people always.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Going to the Raiders.
Speaker 8 (05:12):
Done deal, It's just a matter of paperwork. He was
getting wooed by Tom Brady. Brady's bat in his eye
lashes on it. It was the done deal. He was
getting wooed by Tom Brady, and he chose George McCaskey.
George McCaskey just won a beauty contest with Tom Brady. Scoreboard,
look up at it. McCaskey won Brady's zero. And not
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only this, he doesn't get the handpick GM. He doesn't
get to unilaterally dictate personnel.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
He still chose them. He chose the Bears in twenty
twenty five. And I get it. I get it. I
get it.
Speaker 8 (05:44):
Off season champs again. There's a dynasty of offseason champions
going off to Chicago Bears. I get I went on
Wadle and Sylvie last night. I called I'm screaming about it.
I'm that excited. I understand. I'm not going to sit
here this morning with a Sideways Bears hat and say.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
I want you to put out the word that we
back up. I'm not doing any of that stuff, all right,
you understand.
Speaker 8 (06:05):
But the Bears took a damn swing, a big, bold,
expensive swing. If it doesn't work and he falls on
his face and he's not a leader of men, and
it does fine. The Bears didn't hit a bloop single,
they didn't hit a sacrifice fly. They're trying to jack
one onto Waveland Avenue over the left field fence. And
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I love that he's brash. I love that he's young,
because so much of this organization is still wrapped up
in and obsessed with nineteen eighty five.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
How do you get past nineteen eighty five? Ben Johnson
was born in nineteen eighty say here you go nineteen
eighty six. It wasn't even alive for Buddy Ryan and
all those great defensers.
Speaker 8 (06:44):
But I absolutely am so excited about the only thing
mid eighties about this.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
It feels like an eighties high school movie. The Bears
got the Girl.
Speaker 8 (06:52):
I can't They're going to prom with Molly Ringwold.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
I could not be more excited.
Speaker 8 (06:57):
So on, out of respect and homage to all of that,
give me my friends here, We're gonna do what you
do in eighties movies when you get the girl. We're
gonna do a slow clap for the Bears.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
I'm gonna start it. Bears hired Ben Johnson.
Speaker 8 (07:11):
Yeah, don't you forget about me. They're Lucas, they're John Bender,
They're Ducky at the Prime.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
I can't believe it happened. They actually did.
Speaker 9 (07:21):
It's amazing, all right, Okay, I get it, I get it.
I get the excitement. I'm feeling it. But how bucks
I feel like we've we've been through this before, didn't
Didn't you have the same sort of excitement with Caleb Williams.
You were all up on Caleb Williams. I just want
to caution everyone, and I have nothing against Ben Johnson.
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But when I look at this move and I'm going
you said surprising, was it surprising to me? It wasn't
really surprising because this is the formula that they've constantly
gone after. We've seen the Matt Naggie going after the
successful offensive coordinator or the coordinator with eber Flu's Mark
Trust's men. We've seen this story before. Go after the
hot guy and bring them in. And for me, I
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think it's a dangerous assumption to think that Ben Johnson
successful with the Detroit Lions and all the weapons that
he had, Yes, that's going to come right over to Chicago.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Caleb Williams, he chose him.
Speaker 9 (08:15):
And we're trying to manufacture excitement with the Caleb Williams
experience because he was the number one draft pick and
you got the number one offense. Those marriages don't often work.
Sometimes they do, but I think it has more to
do with x'es and o's. And I've seen this before
from my own experience coming in with Cam Cameron. I
came to the Miami Dolphins in two thousand and seven
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with Cam Cameron coming off of an historical year. We
all remember the fourteen to two San Diego Chargers and
everyone thought that this was going to be it, this
was going to be the game changer. And I had
this unique perspective. I was with Cam Cameron in San
Diego and I saw how he was in the locker
room and how he's what and what worked for the
San Diego Chargers locker room. But then making that transition,
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I saw the struggle in trying to take exactly what
happened been there and bring it over to the Dolphins.
Different personnel group, different mentality. He knew x's and o's.
There was no doubt about that, but he struggled in
being able to relate and find his own identity. Players
need that identity. So for Ben Johnson, it's like, what
is your identity? Don't go do what Campbell did, because
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I saw the struggles with Cam Cameron trying to be
like Marty Schottenheimer and it just didn't translate because they
didn't have the history. And we've seen these type of
failures before. We've seen it with Josh McDaniels. Oh, he's
coming from Bill Belichick. That didn't work either. Bill Belichick
thing Adam Gase. We've seen that with Gates. We've seen
it with Nathaniel Hackett. We saw that with Nathaniel Hackett
and his struggles. So I'm just saying I cautioned the
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Chicago Bears and say, temper your expectations, just wait and
see how this works out. No doubt about it that
Ben Johnson knows ex'es and o's and he knows football,
but does he know personnel? Does he know how to
lead men? You cannot overlook leading men because that's going
to be the most important part in this entire thing.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
Wait until Bear's fancy is a flea flicker, a shuttle
pass and a lateral pass all on one play, and
then like they're gonna be thrilled, They're gonna be jumping
out of their seats. The thing about the Lions and
this division is that not only is now Ben Johnson
heading to Chicago, Peter, they also might lose their defensive coordinator,
Aaron Glenn. Apparently he is down the street from you, guys.
He is in the New York, New Jersey area, visiting
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with the Jets for a second time, Peter, And everything
I'm reading online this morning is this man might not
leave the building without his name on a piece of paper.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (10:34):
Look, Aaron Glenn is the only coach that we know
that is scheduled for the Jets to have a meeting
in this week.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Right now.
Speaker 6 (10:39):
He's there for his second interview, and so is Lance Newmark,
who is with the Washington Commander's front office but was
with Detroit for twenty six years beforehand. It sounds like
these both might be a package deal going back to
the Detroit well we just talked about with Ben Johnson, Aaron.
The Jets have interviewed everybody on the defensive side. They've
interviewed Mike Loxley, a college coach. They've interviewed Darren Rizzy,
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they have interviewed just about everybody in the world of
decks that Mike Tannabaum and Rix Spielman might have.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
But Aaron Glenn seems to be the guy from day one.
Speaker 6 (11:09):
Former Jet leader of men if you will lockbar and
a guy who has shown a really really griod ability
to connect with players and also get on the board.
I know he impressed multiple teams. He meets with the
Jets today and apparently they're going to try to get
this thing done. If he walks out the building, the
Saints are waiting and he's going to meet with the
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Saints after the Jets, I would imagine Woody Johnson, Mike Tannembaum,
and Rick Spielman, the brain trust on this hire are
going to want to get this thing done that the
former Jet is going to come home.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
Peter, does that really happen that way?
Speaker 5 (11:41):
A guy does.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
I leaves the building and they have to physically just
move them from meeting room to meeting room and just
keep having the conversation in different ways, like how does
this actually get done?
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Like that?
Speaker 6 (11:51):
Yeah, look, the guy says, I'm actually gonna have to
weigh all my options, and he leaves and then the
Saints get the last word. But if the Jets say
here's a dollar amount, here's another dollar amount.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Oh wait, here's.
Speaker 6 (12:01):
Another dollar amount, that gets a little easier not to.
Speaker 7 (12:03):
Leave the building.
Speaker 5 (12:04):
We've had your finger on the pulse of this, this search.
Speaker 8 (12:06):
And also the Jets sharing everything they're doing and really
trying to connect with the fans.
Speaker 5 (12:12):
There's something you said that I don't like former.
Speaker 8 (12:15):
Jet that does nothing for me, and that to me
is a window dressing thing to try to appeal to
fans to get you to like the higher. Do you
think that is playing a real role, because as I
don't think a Jets fans care less who we've played for.
Speaker 5 (12:28):
It could be a lifelong patriot. If you come in
here and win, will take you.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
Oh.
Speaker 6 (12:31):
I think the Jets are rooted in a nostalgia from
an era that included not only Rex Ryan, but Eve
one beforehand with Parcels and the AFC champion came from
ninety eight.
Speaker 7 (12:39):
And that's what Aaron Glenn bilinks.
Speaker 6 (12:40):
Now you say, oh, I don't care that he played
for the Jets, I don't. He knows the building. He
knows the market, he loves the Jets. That definitely matters.
And for these fans, a lot of them are going
to be breaking out old Aaron Glenn highlight reels and say,
oh screw it, let's show it and guess what I
think it matters With this.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
Market rooted in a nostalgia man, that's perfect for the
Jets fans, well said Peter, all right, we're going to
talk more about this, especially if that Jets decision becomes
official on our show.
Speaker 5 (13:06):
We will be waiting.
Speaker 6 (13:10):
Welcome back to GMFB.
Speaker 7 (13:12):
You know, sometimes football is just cruel.
Speaker 6 (13:16):
You can try to make sense of it, and as
much as you want to blame the elements or the
superstitious fan thing that.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
You do, I wear the right lucky jersey.
Speaker 6 (13:23):
I stand in the right place in the room every
time there on fourth down.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
Sometimes football just doesn't make sense.
Speaker 7 (13:29):
And can be really, really harsh.
Speaker 6 (13:32):
Ravens fans are still reeling from Sunday Night's Divisional round
loss to Buffalo, and it's not as much that they lost,
but it's how they lost, and that Mark Andrews, of
all people and players, was the one who dropped that
final two point conversion attempt pass it's especially singing because
of Andrews. He is a special player and a special raven.
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He's one of the all time best in franchise history.
He shouldn't be the one who becomes an answer to
a trivia question. But guess what Mark Andrews and that
unfortunate ending. He's got plenty of company in NFL history.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
I think of the name Jackie Smith.
Speaker 6 (14:12):
In nineteen seventy seven, Jackie Smith retired from the NFL
as the all time leader among tight ends in both
receptions and receiving yards. In a world long before tight
End University and the Kelsey's and the Kettles and the Gronkx,
Jackie Smith was the gold standard.
Speaker 7 (14:29):
At the position.
Speaker 6 (14:30):
He retired after fifteen seasons with the old Saint Louis Cardinals,
and the guy had nothing more to prove he was
the best to.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Ever play the position.
Speaker 6 (14:39):
He owned restaurants in Saint Louis and was living a
really nice post retirement life as a local celebrity when
Tom Landry, the legendary coach of the Cowboys, called out
of the blue to lure him out of retirement. He agreed,
and in the following year the Cowboys were up against
the hated Steelers in Super Bowl thirteen and whose number
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was called Jack Smith.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Remember this was the all time.
Speaker 6 (15:07):
Leader in tight end receptions and receiving yards.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
And what happened in the Super.
Speaker 6 (15:12):
Bowl after fifteen years of playing. It's one of the
famous legendary sports calls. Verne Lundquist, super Bowl thirteen. Take
it away, Roger Back to throw, has.
Speaker 8 (15:24):
The man oper the hand, Don cutup jump Dean Don
Jackie Smith, Oh bind felt, Oh, bless his heart.
Speaker 9 (15:32):
He's got to be the thickest man in America.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
The sickest man in America. Bless his heart.
Speaker 6 (15:39):
That would be a famous call forever because the Cowboys
would go on to lose that Super Bowl and Jackie
Smith would never play another football game, and to many,
that's how he's remembered. That dropped the bless his heart
call from Vern Lundquist. Trey Junkin has a similar story.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
Football is cruel man.
Speaker 6 (15:57):
Trey Junkin played twenty seasons in the NFL, and when
he retired in two thousand and one, he was considered
one of, if not the best long snappers of his generation.
After a full year of retirement and an entire NFL
regular season, the Giants called trade Junkin to see if
he wanted to be their long snapper for a playoff
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run in two thousand and two. He agreed and signed
with the Giants on New Year's Eve two thousand and two.
His first game appearance was the wild Card Round at
San Francisco on January fifth, two thousand and three. It
was his first time playing in a football game in
three hundred and sixty four days.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
Then the unthinkable happened.
Speaker 6 (16:38):
Junkin, who was mister Reliable for two decades, is the
long snapper, and after the Giants led thirty eight to
fourteen in the second half, they allowed twenty five unanswered
points to trail thirty nine to thirty eight. In the
fourth quarter, Carriy Collins moves his team and he sets
up a forty yard game winning field goal attempt.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
With six seconds left.
Speaker 6 (17:00):
Let's go to the Fox broadcast of the call and
the great Joe Bud to explain great.
Speaker 10 (17:06):
Junkin snapping it bad snap, Alan couldn't get it put on,
and now he fires and Junkins may have lost the
Giants a chance to advance.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
In the playoffs.
Speaker 6 (17:22):
It was a botch snop. They were offsetting penalties, the
snap wasn't good enough. Unfortunately, after twenty year decorated career,
It's what Trey Junkin is known for by many. After
the game, this is the quote, I cost fifty eight
guys a chance to go to the Super Bowl. I
give anything in the world except my family at this
point to right now just still be retired.
Speaker 7 (17:45):
After the game, he hung up the cleats forever, and
that's what.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
He's known for. Gary Anderson might have an even crueler story.
Speaker 6 (17:52):
With two four hundred and thirty four career points scored,
He's still the NFL's third all time leading scorer, behind
Adam Vinettieri and Hall of Famer Morton Anderson. For twenty
three years, Gary Anderson was one of the best kickers
in football, and in nineteen ninety eight, he went thirty
five for thirty five on field goals and fifty nine
of fifty nine on.
Speaker 7 (18:14):
Points after touchdowns in the regular season.
Speaker 6 (18:17):
He was the first kicker in NFL history to go
perfect on field goals and extra points in an NFL
full year, and he did so for the highest scoring
team in NFL history at that point, leading by seven
and cruising on to the Super Bowl. The Vikings moved
the ball up to set up Gary Anderson for a
chippy thirty eight yard field goal He's made a million
times before in the Metrodome with no elements.
Speaker 5 (18:39):
Here's what happened, and Anderson hasn't missed in two years.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
So that's a pretty good man. If you say, do
you think Garry Anderson will make this field goal, the
answership probably be yes. Thirty nine yards away and it's
not good.
Speaker 6 (18:57):
That field goal would have put the Vikings up ten
in the fourth quarter instead of the Falcons march right downfield,
they tie the game in regulation, they go to overtime,
and it's the Falcons who go to the Super Bowl.
The Vikings still haven't been back to the Big Game.
Randy Moss did not get there with the Vikings, nor
did Chris Carter. Gary Anderson retired six years later, never
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getting a real chance for redemption, Which leads to this guy.
That's Ernest Beiner and why Mark Andrews should give Ernest
Bener a call. This week, Ernest Bner had one of
the most unfortunate fumbles in NFL playoff history. Biner had
one hundred and eighty seven total yards and two touchdowns
in the nineteen eighty seven AFC Championship Game for the
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Cleveland Browns, and with the first and would still it
would be the only trip to the Super Bowl ever.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
On the line for the Browns. The unthinkable happened.
Speaker 6 (19:50):
One hundred and eighty seven yards and two touchdowns, and
then this happens for Ernest Bener.
Speaker 7 (19:55):
In the final seconds, rod A Biner.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
Ernest Beiner and Doun for has recovered all Oh my
Biner had the first and goal and lost the ball.
What a heartbreak?
Speaker 8 (20:12):
Or Biner who had picked up the first down, who
was ready to take it into the end zone.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
The air goes out of the Cleveland team.
Speaker 6 (20:22):
That game forever will be referred to as the fumble,
and that guy's the one that Cleveland Browns fans would
direct their hire.
Speaker 7 (20:30):
But here's where this thing gets a silver lining.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
Ernest Biner stored it in there.
Speaker 6 (20:35):
And this is pretty cool because Biner would sign with
the Redskins and four years later found himself in Super
Bowl twenty six against the Buffalo Bills and in a
game that would be a blowout Washington victory. Guess who
scored the very first touchdown on national television for.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Everybody to see.
Speaker 11 (20:52):
Second at nine at the Channel, Rupin signed by touchdown
a red Skins nine fifty four left to play in
the first half.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
The Redskins on.
Speaker 6 (21:07):
It was a crummy moment for Mark Andrews on Sunday,
and he didn't speak to the media after the game,
and from what I'm told, he didn't do it Monday either.
Mark Andrews is really down right now, guys, and he's
hearing it and I'm sure he sees it and all
the social media hate. I understand it's out there. But
here is where we try to lift Mark Andrews up.
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That moment doesn't have to define his career. It doesn't,
and if you look at the way his career's gone,
there are still plenty of years left and he and
Lamar have a long, rich history.
Speaker 7 (21:42):
And I do think he's going to get another chance.
Speaker 6 (21:44):
Unlike Jackie Smith, unlike Gary Anderson, unlike Trey Jonkin, Mark
Andrews might have two, three, four, five big moment.
Speaker 7 (21:54):
Opportunities over the course of the rest of his career,
and those a wait for him.
Speaker 6 (21:59):
Football is definitely cruel, but there could be a happy
ending around the corner.
Speaker 7 (22:04):
Mark Andrews call up Ernest Byner.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
Very well done. Here, very well done. I have just
a few things.
Speaker 8 (22:11):
If you've seen this now, this is starting to snowball
that the Bill's Mafia is donating to Mark Andrews' charity,
as they are so famous for doing. You know, I
was thinking about it with the football gods and the cruelty.
Jerome Bettis had the fumble of the generation. He had
the biggest fumble. He would have been worse than binary,
except Roethlisberger makes the tackle and let's betters off the hooks.
Sometimes you just get let off and he goes on
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to win the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
I also think, you know, this air is interesting.
Speaker 8 (22:35):
Now. We have seen athletes collapse, choke, even quit, but
they are shielded and even embraced by proponents of mental health.
And how wonderful is this for them that they knew
their limitations and I actually gained respect for them. But
if you drop a pass, you're a choker and a
loser and you should go retire. And it's I don't
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understand which way it goes here. Because Mark Andrews is
someone we all respect. From my armchair psychiatry, I think
he dropped that pass because of the phone and I
think he was in his head, and I think he
was feeling so terrible for what he did to the team.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
With a prior drop as well.
Speaker 8 (23:09):
I think he was in his head and I think
psychologically something left him and he dropped that pass.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
But I don't know.
Speaker 8 (23:15):
If you look around the internet, he doesn't get the
same treatment as some of this, so we kind of
pick and choose who is just doing the right thing
and who's a symnthetic figure and who is a loser.
So I wish they could settle that. In the meantime,
there's I could never have more respect for Mark Andrews.
It happens, and I sit here at saying, like, I
love the guy as an athlete is a person.
Speaker 9 (23:32):
You're right, I mean the love he should be feeling
the love and Impeede a great job too, because I
think you know, when you're going through something very, very tough,
like what you know Andrews has gone through, you know,
sometimes there is a little bit of comfort in thying
that it's happened. It is You're normal, You're not this
weird person that this happened to. And Kyle, you know
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there is this saying, and you've heard this before is
short term memory, like the good ones, the great ones,
especially because that's how you maintain in a funk. After
that fumble, it is very very easy to get in
your head, especially situationally knowing what that did to the
team and the momentum shift, and so just to be
able to get out of your head and remember, Hey,
short term memory. But I love the fact that you
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ended it or you had this story with Ernest Beiner
and how he had that redemptive turn. So hopefully there's
a redemptive turn for Mark Andrews because he is a
solid tite end.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
I find comfort in the friendship that you know Lamar
Jackson and Mark Andrews have, just from their years of
playing together, what the Ravens mean and how they conduct
business as an organization. Just knowing that everything that Lamar
Jackson has been through and we saw it and all
the teaser videos ahead of that game, how he was drafted,
what was said about him from his positions at like,
everything he's been through, and the fact that those two
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can probably be sitting in a room together, whether it
be in Cabo or in Owings Mills, Maryland, and he's
got Lamar and we know Lamar has his back, Peter.
That makes me feel a pretty good from a friendship perspective.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
Sure does.
Speaker 6 (24:54):
And if you want to talk about the kind of
guy Mark Andrews is, last year, he's on a flight.
I know a lot of you guys know this story
and a woman was having a medical issue and he's
a Type one diabetic and he came up and said,
I've got my kit, like we've got to get this say.
He helped get this situation organized and in a lot
of ways helped make sure the steps were taken that
this woman's life could be saved on a flight.
Speaker 7 (25:13):
As just a citizen on a flight.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
This is a good man.
Speaker 6 (25:17):
So when you tweet something really negative, or you tweet
something nasty, or you think that just because you're an
egg on Twitter like now it doesn't matter, it might
and it does. And to Kyle's point, in a mental
health forward thinking era, maybe let's have some grace.
Speaker 7 (25:30):
From Mark Andrews the next couple of days.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
And the fact that it took like a week for
that story to even come out the fact that he's
not like I assume the woman's life like the tooke
the Ravens and be like, we're aware that that happen.
Mark Andrew's a good guy, Mark Andrews.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
We love you.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
Well done, Peter, we appreciate that. I know that might
have been heartbreaking for some fans of these teams from
yesteryear to watch, but just know that good stories do
come and good people are all around football.
Speaker 6 (25:54):
Get it over here, Dawson.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
Cold an angry run. I can't think of a guy's
name that does it. But the Angry Runs we want
to be on night.
Speaker 7 (26:14):
We actually are said you win that an angry Run
scepter at a running back.
Speaker 6 (26:18):
You want this, You want to be on the Angry
Runs and have an angry run.
Speaker 7 (26:22):
You know, they send you a cool sceptor, send you
a cool shirt.
Speaker 8 (26:25):
And the golden scepter goes to my man, Najie Harris,
Big dead it.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
It's going to Pittsburgh.
Speaker 8 (26:33):
Let's go Baby to you, my friend, my grounded back.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
Angry Runs presented by God as Hello friends. This one's
a little bit different.
Speaker 8 (26:49):
I'm not standing, I'm not screaming, I'm not dressed up
in costume. We're going to take a little bit of
the look back. Have you ever seen back in the
day when Pantera did their unplugged set, No you did
it never happen.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
But that's what we're doing right now. I still got
the scepter. I still have the oxygen masks.
Speaker 8 (27:05):
I don't think I'm gonna need it because we sat
back as we're preparing Angernstan, It's like, you know what
we should do.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
Let's take a look.
Speaker 8 (27:10):
We have four final teams. We have done this for
eighteen nineteen twenty weeks at this point. Who are the
angry runners still standing? What players who are gonna play
in the title games have won acepter have been up
for a scepter. Let's take a look back at it.
But first we have to do the street team. We
have people getting angry and that they're not on the
Street Team. Guys, I can only include three, and you know.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
I'm including Matt Kid. That's Maximus.
Speaker 8 (27:33):
He's out in the desert with a Tray McBride angry
run shirt. Peter, it's currently one degree here in New
York City.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
How about that desert living. I see that Scottsdale. That
looks good to me.
Speaker 8 (27:43):
I've bet Maximus's house has an outdoor shower and a
pool and everything's beautiful.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
Next, look at this happy family. I know the lions
are done with and everything.
Speaker 8 (27:51):
Look at that good boy, He's got his Penny Suwell shirt.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
I a happy boy. I love that kid, love that family.
Speaker 8 (27:58):
But look at this Buffalo's all business this week as
they go to Kansas City.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
Look at my guy, Paul.
Speaker 8 (28:04):
Paul said he just finished twenty seven wings, which means
Paul had two dozen wings.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
And said more. Can we be more? Yeah? I need him.
Speaker 8 (28:14):
Technically he goes twenty seven wings in his shirt and
we don't do twenty seven wings. We had so many
winners this week in Angry Runs this year. Look at
the twenty twenty four Slash twenty five Angry Interceptor World Tour.
David Montgomery Week one. Look at all these wait, Daniel Jones,
they're alive, They're gone. Peter, pick out your favorite.
Speaker 6 (28:34):
I mean, Trey McBride did a whole music video and
it came on the show to accept the awards.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
So Trey McBride jumping in the air was incredible.
Speaker 7 (28:41):
I love that one.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
It really was fantastic. But here we go. These are
the Angry Runners that are going to be playing in
the title games. Remember we have Eagles, Commanders.
Speaker 8 (28:50):
Bills Chiefs, which one of those people on those squads
won one of these.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
We're first gonna go to Philadelphia.
Speaker 8 (28:57):
A guy who came out of the wound running angry.
Let's go to the guy and the puncher of faces,
the tight end for the Philadelphia Eagles.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
Dallas got her. Roll it, Dallas Goddar is a bad,
bad mother. Roll the videotapeing you please. This isn't letting
the game. You know this. He's gonna catch it. I'm
gonna truck you. Oh you're with me? Punch you, punch you.
Speaker 8 (29:19):
That was so gratuitous. God is that beautiful. He didn't
need to do either of those.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
It's so good because he was so deliberate. He wanted
the violence, he wanted the physicality.
Speaker 8 (29:30):
The same dude gets trucked Carrington Valentine.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
This is the same Valentine's massacre. Look at his package.
Look you're the last look on necessary this one?
Speaker 8 (29:44):
Now?
Speaker 2 (29:44):
Why why not set up Kyle for choosing me? Never
taking this one lightly? That was him on It's like that.
I'm definitely worth it.
Speaker 6 (29:53):
That's for sure.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
I'll slow down so you can come with your song.
I love God.
Speaker 8 (29:58):
Her got her ripped apart the package like John Madden
One's cut the turducan with his bare hands and then
almost took his eye out at the business end of
the scepter. Dallas got or bring him down this weekend.
You don't want any part of that. Earlier this season,
we had something in that we had a wrong to
make right. In the eight year history of Angry Runs,
no one from the Washington Commanders has ever won the Sceptor.
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They've had three different team names in the time we've
done it, and no.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
One has ever won.
Speaker 8 (30:21):
We go back to week two, and if you want
to sign that things might be a little different from
Washington this year, a new player in town ended that
drought and won this thing roll Week two Angry Runs.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
No commander has ever won Angry Runs. Let's bring it up.
Speaker 8 (30:36):
Austin Ackler is new in town, down the sideline and
showing us something I've never seen in this segment, which
is a fine yee bow.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
I've never seen that before. This is amazing. This is
a Musby doll in mma. That's like Sigott in Street Fighter.
Speaker 8 (30:54):
It's like he was gonna jump over him, but then
he met him mid air and to society was gonna
be a collision.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
Austin Eckler, known.
Speaker 8 (31:00):
As PfP pound for pound, the strongest player in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
He knows those one arm pull up things. They're absolutely crazy.
Speaker 8 (31:08):
He was doing one in mid air against the Giants Boston.
Eckler gets the scepter and the cycle is complete, and
four months later he's making plays in the playoffs. He
sent us the scepter, pick and the shirt. There's the
aforementioned guns he's got on either side. Bring down Eckler
this weekend, he's gonna make plays. They get him the
ball in space, He's still fantastic. Get it, and we're
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gonna keep this thing rolling. You think of the Commanders,
think of some of their stars, Think some of their
hard running backs. I also as a commander that I
know Pece Reigs loves a guy who had a huge
catch this past weekend. Let's go back in time and
not only roll the John Bates angry runs nominee, but
one of my favorite members of the Washington Commanders coaching staff,
Pete Oh Rolling let go.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
Did you see that Commander's Bears game? John bas remember
the name.
Speaker 8 (31:56):
What's what John Bates does on the sideline? This is
the Commander's tight end. He does nasty, nasty things on
the side.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
They give me that again. That's against Kevin Bayer. That's
a safe you get points. That almost knocked the orn
sleeve off.
Speaker 8 (32:09):
He's six six to sixty and he.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
Is not going out about.
Speaker 8 (32:13):
By the way, look at my guy on the sideline.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
We got a commander's coach. That is what this segment
is about. Hi.
Speaker 8 (32:19):
Look out, he's up in the air. He's got the
hand coming up. Who is Pete Oh? He was the
center for the Miami Sharks and any even Sunday. He
was in the replacements. He was in a terrible Armol
movie called The Sixth Day, and he was in Law
and Order Criminal Intent, which is what John Bates had
on the sideline.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
Pete Oh, that is a nasty height run that could win.
It's true. He was in the Sixth Day with Auto Sorts,
Peter big sick day guy. Love that off the radar
Sports Today.
Speaker 8 (32:48):
They tried to make it so second total recall didn't
really work. We have total recall here always encyclopedic of
every single winner.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
Let's just get to it. The Superstar in the Room,
the Elephant in the Room.
Speaker 8 (32:59):
Week seven, sakuon Barkley, but famously, a former New York
Giant went back to play against the New York Giants.
I'm in Los Angeles and pitch black outside and Saquon
did this.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
Do you want to see what Saquon did? Would you
like to see it? Roll it up on the big screen? Okay,
no harmless little thing.
Speaker 8 (33:17):
Will check down to Saquon and he says, bah get it.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
He almost runs over a coach. He wants more.
Speaker 8 (33:23):
He's in the old silent, the sile that he used
to stand on.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
He's running over coaches.
Speaker 8 (33:27):
Give me the field level shot of Saquon going into Dane.
Bah Oh, I may retire, guys.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
I think that might be. That might be the walk off.
It's been a great show. It's been a great segment.
Speaker 8 (33:41):
I don't know if I can keep doing Anger runs off.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
Saquon's gonna do the Giants like that. Saquon Barkley, welcome back.
Speaker 8 (33:48):
Did you see what he did early on to the
ramp that I bet you did with the left hand
of bow, A clean shot right to the job. Boom
to this poor dude, Christian roads boom, and Saquon he
brings them boom. He brings them boom right off the jaw.
It's Angry Runs and it's Saquon Barkley.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
You're getting the senator. H was a catch, I guess
I called a sideline.
Speaker 10 (34:16):
I was a run or run through somebody at.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
A running back.
Speaker 5 (34:19):
You want this, You want to be on the Angry
Runs and have an angry run.
Speaker 9 (34:23):
You know they send you a cool septor send you
a cool shirt.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
So yeah, I just got it. This is a new
addition to my locker and hopefully I.
Speaker 8 (34:30):
Can get couple of under It's incredible testimony, and thank
you very much, Takuan.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
Bring him down. Keep trying to keep him under two
hundred if you can. This weekend, here's another guy who.
Speaker 8 (34:39):
Is a massive, massive runner and a very important team
for this team this weekend. Very important player guy James
Cook has had a season.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
James Cook has had a season. He's been on the
raider all.
Speaker 8 (34:49):
Year long role Jimbo from earlier this season. Let's go
to the goal line for the Buffalo Bills as they
give it to Jimbo Cook. Oh no, we got a
bad somebody just got ned start. Look at the helmet
on the ground. They just flap it out of the way.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
That's where Cook cooks and we had it Toomany's down.
Speaker 8 (35:12):
No he's not.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
He hand planted and he's going come on, Jimbo.
Speaker 7 (35:16):
Get in there.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
There's no way he's gonna get up from this. That's
a tackle. No next act, unfreeze it. They got him
shrouding Peter. He's down there, No no, and he's gonna turn.
Come on, Jimbo, you know what this is. This is
an angry Cook.
Speaker 8 (35:30):
This is Casey Rye backing under siege to spit in
his boole Pacee Gary Busey, He'll.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
Snap her neck.
Speaker 8 (35:35):
That is an angry, angry Cook having a knife fight
with Tommy Lee Jones or in this case, a street
fight with the Indianapolis Colts.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
There's something that James Cook does at the goal line.
Speaker 8 (35:46):
He flips an angry switch and he runs over anybody
and everybody. Not a chance, not a chance. That's a
great defense. That might be Super Bowl defense, not on
this day. Look at James Cook literally cooking with the
second of bills, as.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
If the bills needed to be on anymore of it.
He's gonna start running and then the Endvio comes in
and says, we're going this way, We're going. Come on, baby,
just follow me.
Speaker 8 (36:11):
That is the schnow man doing the schnow plow called
mister Snowplow.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
That is my name. That name again is mister Snowplow.
James Cooks had a year.
Speaker 8 (36:21):
There are people look at his stirring the cauldron with
the scepter. There are people who follow the angry runs
analytics online. And the basic math of it is James
Cook's been nominated five times this season. That is by
far the most nominations of any player all year. Didn't
win them all, but five times being on the ballot
is unbelievable. We have one more, and this one is
really funny and really controversial, and I'm still hearing people
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pissed off that this guy didn't win our last nominee
to look back on the face of tackled football in
the United States of America, Patrick Mahomes remember this one, Roland.
Let's just say wildly different body types. This guy looks
like he has six pack abs. This guy looks like
he has a six pack. If they were to two,
(37:06):
I don't know, running too each other at high speed,
it would probably go really bad for this guy.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
I mean, look at the sadonnas and it is over
in five seconds. Why did this happen?
Speaker 8 (37:16):
I need to call upon our physics majors in the audience.
How did this happen? And he looks down at and
Mustapha looks up. I'm sitting here wondering. Mahomes doesn't have
that in them. You know how long I've been doing
this segment. You know how many angry runs I've seen.
I've seen sam Donold win an angry run. I've seen
two win an anger run. I never thought the day
would come when I would see a the Cowboys get
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to a title game and p Patrick Mahomes when angry runs.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
It happened. He did not win that week.
Speaker 8 (37:45):
He lost to Saquon and who knows, maybe he'll get
some measure of revenge in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (37:50):
Peter.
Speaker 8 (37:51):
The down part of doing an analog of the entire season,
looking back in the beginning, it is the before and
after pictures of me back in the summer.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
I'm all ten and I'm all happy. Now I look
like a hostage.
Speaker 8 (38:02):
And this is five six months of sitting here doing football.
Speaker 2 (38:05):
What are your thoughts? And then we'll go to La Shrake.
Speaker 6 (38:07):
Well, they added an extra week to the season, and
there's more coming you weren't asked.
Speaker 2 (38:11):
Yeah, I love the list. I love that James cooks
it out.
Speaker 6 (38:15):
I would say the running back who's lining up on
the other side has never won an angry run and
has all fit in your mentions. Asaia Pacheco is healthy?
Does he get the AFC Championship angry run?
Speaker 2 (38:25):
We will see.
Speaker 9 (38:26):
I gotta go back to Malik with stapfha Man. That
picture will always be seared in my head. And what
Patrick Mahomes did to Malak with Staffa on that one
and looking over him like he should have won that
one but you had to give it to sat one
that week.
Speaker 3 (38:40):
No one's going to address how jarring it is to
watch Kyle go from normal Kyle to angry Kyle like
back and forth. The editing there, I was not prepared.
Speaker 2 (38:47):
I still stand by the fact.
Speaker 3 (38:48):
That Brian Robinson has Junior has been begging Kyle Brant
during angry runs.
Speaker 2 (38:53):
For a scepter.
Speaker 5 (38:54):
I think he's made his case.
Speaker 3 (38:55):
Austin Eckler gets the first commander sceptor Kyle. How dare
you I hope that Brian Robinson Junior gets.
Speaker 5 (39:00):
One this week? Yet don't know you really do?
Speaker 8 (39:02):
Well, He's going into Philly against Sake and everything they've
got going there. Guys, it's going to be an angry,
angry weekend. It's been an incredible angry year. Thank you
Street Team, thank you players, and made the angriest men
win this weekend.
Speaker 2 (39:13):
Morgan Morning Football right after this. Don't go anywhere. Let's
go