January 28, 2025 • 30 mins
Hour One of the Good Morning Football Podcast begins with hosts Jamie Erdahl, Peter Schrager, Kyle Brandt, and Akbar Gbajabiamila answering who were the biggest winners of championship week - is the big winner a player or a coach? WE IN or WE OUT - The NFL competition committee should get rid of the ‘TUSH PUSH’ this offseason? The NFL is a better league when the Raiders are relevant?
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
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Speaker 3 (00:27):
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And New York.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
It's Tuesday, January twenty eight. Here is Akbar, Bodsby and Miller.
There's Peter Scheger, There's Kyle Brandt. I'm Jamie r at All,
Akbar grat to have you back. First, we start with
the two teams that remain in the Super Bowl. Yesterday,
Chiefs head coach Andy Reid addressed the media and he
emphasized the importance of not just one guy on this team,
and not just one game that got them there, the
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entire team coming together to help get this version of
Kansas City Chiefs to their third straight Super Bowl appearance.
Speaker 4 (00:59):
It takes everybody to get to this point. I say
this because we're nineteen games in this thing, and it's
not about one person or one player, one coach. It's
about everybody. It's everybody coming together. And there's no more
important game than the one we're going to play in
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that we need that joint effort and the other team
that we're playing the Eagles. They're there for a reason
is because they're a good football team, and so we've
got to make sure that we keep everything together and
work and get a nice plan together for this group.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
All right, batting lead off for our first topic of
the day on GMFB. Biggest winner besides Andy Reid's facial
hair of Championship Week, Peter, what do you got?
Speaker 5 (01:49):
I'm going to go with Andy Reid's right hand man,
and that's not Patrick Mahomes or Matt n Aggie. It's
Steve Spagnolo, a guy who's been coaching with Andy Reid
since the early two thousands in Philadelphia. Spags put the
clamps on the Bills when it mattered most, and he
did so at the goal line, on two point conversions
and on fourth downs in key spots. Throughout this game,
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Buffalo is going up and down the field and Josh
Allen was having his way, but when they needed him
in short distances, it was the Chiefs defense that stepped
up huge. Of course, we have this one the most
controversial play of the weekend.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Did he have it? Did he not have it? It
was ruled short.
Speaker 5 (02:28):
Whether he got it or not, and whether the spot
up top had him getting it. Bottom line is this,
Josh Allen did not go four yards and plunged through everybody.
Josh Allen did not get out on the goal line
and go left and just get touchdowns where they needed.
Spags had his team prepped and ready, and the defensive
line was ready. Then in the biggest play of the game,
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the fourth and five at the end, you've got Dalton
Kincaid eking out. But really it was the pre step stuff.
Spags had not thrown the corner blitz at Josh Allen
all game.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
He does. He throws it off his back.
Speaker 5 (03:01):
Foot, throws well, if nothing, sort of a perfect pass
in that situation. But that is not the ideal pass
you get on a fourth and five your quarterback plunging
backwards through the air. It's because of a well disguised
quarterback blitz. Why am i starting with the defensive coordinator
Because we just watched Philadelphia score seven rushing touchdowns in
a game and go up and down the field on
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the Commanders, and Spags is now on the doorstep to
not only solidifying where he is on the all time
coordinator list, but extending his league. Take a look at
this full screen out here that the Crack Research team
put together here already with one with the Giants and.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Three with the Chiefs.
Speaker 5 (03:39):
Steve Spagnolo is the most decorated coordinator in Super Bowl history.
He gets another against his former team, a team that
he used to coach for. Well, that's five, and that
is a two Super.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Bowl lead over the.
Speaker 5 (03:54):
Next third ory five Patriots coordinators that are beneath him.
I thought that that game was going to come down
to the quarterbacks.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
It didn't.
Speaker 5 (04:02):
It came down to the defense was able to stop
the quarterbacks because when Kansas City gets the ball in
their next possession on a third and nine, samaj p
Ryan goes left, they get him on the pass play
and they put the game away. Spags once again came
up big in the biggest spot, and I think he
is a key reason, if not the reason in the
end that the Chiefs are playing in Super Bowl and
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not the Buffalo.
Speaker 6 (04:24):
You're you're one hundred percent right, because I mean that
that game that Spagnole called was just absolutely it was
fun to watch.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
You get you get off on watching.
Speaker 6 (04:33):
Good defense like that and being able to be very
creative with his calls and his blitz calls and especially
the timing of it. But for me, Peter Kyle Jamie,
I think the person who was the biggest winner for
Championship Week has to go to Jalen Hurts. And I
think because Jalen Hurts he defied all the odds. You know,
there was this entire narrative, you know that came into
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this picture where you know, he had this playoff history
where we knew that if he threw in his three
prior playoff games, if he threw for over two or
three yards, we knew he automatically was going to lose
that game because that's what history told us. Over two
hundred yards, it's an l Well, he changed that whole thing.
He came into this game ready to play football. Two
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hundred and forty six yards in the air, four touchdowns,
zero turned overs. He really showed up and delivered. But
on top of that, I mean, he was a decisive
passer throughout this entire thing. He was an elite runner
when needed to, yes, and of course the touch push
everyone appreciates that. But he went out there and he
silenced all the doubters. He did something that very few
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quarterbacks have done, is to go out there in the
past we know back in twenty twenty two he loses
that first Super Bowl to be able to return back
to come to this presence. There have been thirty six
quarterbacks who've gone out there and they lost their first
Super Bowl and only three have come back to win it.
And when you look at that, it's a prestigious name,
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by the way, John Elway, Lynn Dahlson and of course
Bob Gracie. Those are the three guys. Now you can
add mister Jalen Hurst to go out there and at
least go back and try to get an opportunity to
go out there and win a Super Bowl. So shout
out to him because he was the big winner to me.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Now he was awesome and he's got his work cut
off for him. He's got a score to shuttle.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
Was with the Chiefs, Peter, I have a spags take
okay okay. And we've talked so much about the year.
Sometimes we joke about it throughout the years about how
do you stop the Chiefs?
Speaker 2 (06:25):
How did you rail the Chiefs?
Speaker 1 (06:26):
And remember after they drafted Xavier Worthy, our reaction was like,
how did the thirty one other teams let them get Exavier?
We're the fastest play in the history of the combine,
Maybe shouldn't the team hire Steve Spagnolo to be their
head coach and then you take them from the chiefs
and you weaken your enemy.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
It never comes up. It's never a discussion.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
All anybody ever wants to talk about on social media,
including yourself, is coaching hires, coaching hires. I never seen
his name anywhere, and all he does is go to
the soup bow every year.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
What's going on? He had to go on.
Speaker 5 (06:52):
He had a couple of those via zoom the first
week of the playoffs where it's like, all right, you
can't interview these guys in person because they've got the
ones DA and then that was it. It died right there.
So for another year he doesn't get another person interviews.
Spags completely shut out, And you know, I don't know
if it's an ageous thing, and I've always just assumed, well,
they don't want an old white defensive coordinator at this
stage of his career.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Look at pet Carroll. They just hired Peek Carol.
Speaker 5 (07:15):
Everyone's doing flips word kill Belichick, and I think Spags
does connect with the young player.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
Just get them away from Kansas City guys.
Speaker 5 (07:21):
The thought is that these older defensive coaches can't connect
with the young player anymore, that there's a sixty.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Year gap or a forty year gap. Kyle, I'm with you.
Speaker 5 (07:31):
We're giving jobs away now to guys, and we're doing
flip to justify it. Nothing against Brian.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Schottenheimer or a Liam Cohen, but you.
Speaker 5 (07:39):
Don't think Spags deserves the same kind of interview process
as those guys. He doesn't get it for whatever reason,
and it's.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Kansas City's benefit.
Speaker 5 (07:46):
But I could tell you he's not up at night
losing sleepover and it seems like he's pretty happy.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Him and Maria.
Speaker 5 (07:50):
They're eating their Ville parmejan every Monday night, as he says.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
But I think you're right.
Speaker 5 (07:55):
I don't understand why he's not considered the same way
some of the young, upstart offensive coaches are.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Every year.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
I would think maybe you know the Raiders, who obviously
just show they're not afraid of hiring an older gentleman
and could hire from the Envision Rible.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
It's all hypothetical. He wouldn't go to the Raars.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
I'm just saying, Spagnolo, if you're looking for a way
to weaken the Chiefs, one of these years, one of
these decades, maybe hire him away. I don't remember a
lot about the news and the news cycle about when
Nick Sirianni was hired and where he came from, but
I do remember that in his first year, Nick sirian
he was now in the Super Bowl again, was two
and five, and to motivate his team in his first
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year as a head coach, he showed the Philadelphia Eagles
a picture of a flower and went into a long,
extended metaphor and I quote, the only way the roots
grow out every single day, the stronger they grow is
we water them and we all fertilized them.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
And then the flower comes and we're all sitting at me, like.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
What are we doing? This is the Eagles head coach.
What It was a crazy press conference, that guy who's
talking about flowers and blooming and just I don't know
where he was going.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Look where he is now. This is that guy who
went at two and five.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
So I'm going to go to my flower metaphor and
now I'm going to go back.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
To the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
Youngest head coach to coach in two McVay tomlin Shula
gives Siriani there he is.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
That is a hell of a group.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
To be in a hell of a group forty three
years old, I've been to two and by the way, again.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
I'm going to go against.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
The guy who used to do this job years ago
and couldn't get over the hump.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
In title games and title games and title games, I
don't know. I'm pretty good title games.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
Nick Sirianni is a nice little record going. I also
just think it is a really cool thing that he
is going back and he has done this thing. We
fast forward last year, the team completely collapses, died on
a vine. There's your plant metaphor. Then they come back
this year and there's this sense of wait. Nick Sirianni
gets to stay and all the coordinators get whacked, and
he's just gonna sit here and be a CEO and
let the coordinators cook. He doesn't get the respect from
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the media. You know who gets the respect from the players.
The players. If you've seen Cam Jurgens talk about it.
If you've seen Jordan Maylata, they love Siriani. Of course,
Fangio and Moore do great stuff. They're tenured guys, are
really respected. He does the middleman stuff, he does the
leader stuff. He likes the players. You can't argue with
results metaphors, Rocky t sh or it's weird press conferences whatever.
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He is in his second Super Bowl and he's in
his early forties. I think Nick Sirianni won the title
game week.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
So back before the season started, we had our NBC special,
if you guys remember, and in preparation for that show,
I did this interview with Nick Sirianni and it was
like a fifteen minute one on one interview of which
we used like ninety seconds. But I swear in the
next twelve days, I want to go back through that
footage and I want to unearth some of the things
that he said, because Kyle, to your point, let's just
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say it was gently suggested that I don't ask a
lot about the fact that they had a rough ending
to the season before that is the relationship between Sirianni
and Jalen Hurts rough. Well, look at where they are now.
I kind of want to go back and see what
Sirianni was about on September first, and I want to
play it this week on the show because I think
that shows a lot about what he did this offseason
and how he was able to improve, not only himself,
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but also how he approached this team to find them
in another look at them.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Yeah they are they have no great so great.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
We're happy because GMFB is happening on a Tuesday. Got
a lot to get to, like tush push conversations.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
We saw a lot of it on Sunday, Peter.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
We saw a very different tactic as to how to
stop it. It didn't work. Eagles were almost gifted a
touchdown because of it.
Speaker 5 (11:14):
Peter, you got more on this, Yes, and it's time
to talk about the tushy pushy. Isn't that what we
were called at one Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
We'll get to it. Tush push talk a lot of it.
There was a lot of it this weekend.
Speaker 5 (11:31):
Time for a segment we call we in or we uh.
The term is the tush push and it's a play
that we've seen quite a lot from the Philadelphia Eagles
over the past three years. It has been a staple
in their goal line package and on fourth downs, and
yet this weekend it felt like we saw it from
all four teams on what felt like every play. It
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was just a lot of tush push. The base offense
is the base offense. Are all courtsy to the AMC
d Champion Brad it was a lot pretty play. It's
a scrum, and yet it's one of those if you
don't like it, stop it type deals. And well, the
Kansaity Chiefs defense did stop it for when the Bills
tried it a few times. But it's not really aesthetically pleasing.
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Talked about it last off season at length.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
Nothing changed. Here's the statement.
Speaker 5 (12:21):
Should the NFL Competition Committee get rid of the tush
push this season?
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Should they?
Speaker 5 (12:28):
Are we in or we out on getting rid of
the toush push making it illegal?
Speaker 2 (12:33):
I am out.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
I am staunchly out because I just see all the
reasons to get rid of it. I don't agree with
any of them. I used to hear that it's unsafe.
It's an unsafe, but no, it's not. It's actually less
dangerous than a standard running play because there's less impact.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
The one that they.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Say it's not a football play, I disagree. We pushed
as hard as we can this way. You push as
hard as you can this way. That's how Rutgers and
Princeton were doing it in eighteen sixty nine.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
That's the very essence of football.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
And dare I say we could we should return to
a little bit of that. Maybe it's not so esthetically pleasing.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
You also have Peter. You mentioned this, well.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
You can't stop, but yes you can. The Chiefs just
stopped it three times in one game. It can be stopped. Also,
I like that the Chiefs don't do it, so if
they take it away, people won't scream that they're hurting
the Chiefs like. There's nothing like that going on. I
like the play. I know, we just have a lot
of the play. NFL Instagram just posted some clips from
the Left Chief's Eagles Super Bowl. There's Jalen Hurts on
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the goal line. God, are pushing them right in for
a touchdown. You have to do better than just I
don't know. I don't like it. It happens too much.
I don't see any rules being broken. I don't see
any esthetics being broken. And maybe just part of me
likes you push and I pushed. Let's see who's the tough.
Speaker 5 (13:39):
I remember a couple of years ago, two years ago,
you sat with an actual astro physicist to discuss the
dynamics and the physics of the tush push.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
I mean, there is simply some science to this thing, right.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
I went and I sat with Neil deGrasse Tyson up
in the Natural History Museum up town of Manhattan, where
he sat and we sat down to understand. This is
a man who gets asked on the street is time
travel possible? And our aliens out there? And he has
answers for those you ask him, how do you stop
the touchespecially goes, I got nothing. He did not have
an answer, and he went into all the physics of
it and says, not really, it's you just say I
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don't have an answer for you. And then we laughed
about it because he has answers for everything. But my
answer to not being able to stop it is not
cancel it, because again the chiefs just to fied Neil
de grass Tyson and figure out three times how to
stop it.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
You know what I'm in on this one. It's corny.
Speaker 6 (14:31):
I've seen enough of it. I'm done with it, like
I really am. Like when you think about it, first off,
I want to address.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
The safety issue on this thing. There is a safety issue.
Speaker 6 (14:39):
Because watching that game, when you see the Commander's Frankie
Louvu going over the top like he's in the wwe
just trying to stop this, trying to figure out a
way to figure out this, Like, at some point, somebody's
going to figure out a way to stop this like that.
It's got a seventy percent this season, they ran it
in a seventy percent success rate. That's a high success
rate for a single play like this. But you look
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at that he's put himself in the defensive position like that,
somebody's gonna.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Get hurt like that.
Speaker 6 (15:05):
Furthermore, when you know, back in my day, and I
don't want to sound like one of these dudes, but
I'm about to get on the soapbox. Back in my day,
they made a whole big fuss about the linebackers pushing
the defensive lineman on pat and field goals, talking about oh,
defenseless with a long snapper, And I'm like, what, like,
come on, we're playing football.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
How is that any different?
Speaker 6 (15:26):
But the only difference is is that you get to
score on this, So of course there's a little bit
more advantage because it's scoring and it's producing longer drives.
But I think it's corny, man, Like, it's just too predictable.
I want variety. I want to be entertained. I can
go off and go get something to eat real quick.
When they're doing the touch bush. It's nothing exciting about it.
I say, get rid of it. Let's do something more
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in the studio.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
You's awkward. Furthermore, that was a very like you were
with it on that.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
Furthermore, I am I respect and appreciate.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
I am out on this as well.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
Unless someone else, and if someone else, I mean half
the league can start doing this the way the Eagles can,
you have to let them keep doing it. Everyone else
is just mad and cranky. All these other fans are
just mad and cranky that they can't get the job
done the way the Eagles can.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
Esthetically pleasing is not why you watch football.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
Go watch figure skating if you want that, Peter, I
am out on this.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Okay, Well, one last thing, one last thing.
Speaker 6 (16:20):
Can you imagine if the Commanders went and did the
touch push for the eighteen play drive, or you watch
any team just do the touch push all the way
until they get down to it.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
Can you imagine watching it? Is that what you want
to watch? Is that what we're saying? Is that what
we're saying.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
But you can't because you wouldn't gain the first down
that way, because you're only getting like one or two.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Yards maybe somebody spill out or something like that. It's whack.
I like watching it. I think it's funny. There's legs
and arms everywhere, these people jumping. I think it's fun.
I won't say that.
Speaker 5 (16:47):
It's like for the Eagles their offense, it's like, all right,
first and ten, all you do is get seven yards,
get seven yards in the first two downs, and then
on third and fourth down you can do the touch pusch.
You're gonna get it first down. It has simplified things
for them. I might be with docbar on this though,
like I don't like watching it, and this is just
object like watching it. I'm watching football.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
I'm like, oh, tush push, all right, here we going.
Speaker 5 (17:09):
And only they're trying to draw them off sides. Oh,
they're actually doing it. Like I don't know, that's just me.
And maybe they'll change this soft season, or maybe they won't.
Maybe it's the future of the sport.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
I'm tired of saying toush push. I'll give you that.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
I agree of the term tush I don't want to
say tush push feels like a nursery rhyme.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
What am I talking about about? Or something like that. Yeah,
we've tried. We've tried. Yeah, Oh sorry, I.
Speaker 5 (17:34):
Have a feeling we're going to see a lot of
the blank blank over the next two weeks Super Bowl,
there will be plenty of it. Maybe we can workshop
a new term for it if I don't like the
word tush push all right. There were like three different
press conferences going on at once yesterday welcoming in new
head coaches gyms, and then a fourth later in the
afternoon with Liam Cohen the Raiders.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
One might have stole the day though.
Speaker 5 (17:57):
Here is new Raiders general manager John spy Tech, first
year general manager, came from Tampa at his introductory press
conference talking.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
About the Silver and Black and what that means in
the league. Take a listen.
Speaker 7 (18:10):
When I dreamt about having one of these jobs, I
always wanted it to be with an iconic franchise like
the Raiders. I'm not sure I ever got far enough
in my dreams as a young kid in Pelwaukee, Wisconsin
that I could be sitting.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
Up here today with the Raiders. But here I am.
Speaker 7 (18:24):
And there's just some teams where it means a little
bit more. There's just some teams where they deserve to
be a The NFL is better when they're crushing it.
Speaker 5 (18:36):
Crushing it is an overstatement here, but we're gonna go
with something a little more tame on this one. The
NFL is a better league when the Raiders are relevant.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
Are we enter? We out Kyle?
Speaker 5 (18:46):
When you see that logo and they're actually playing meaningful games,
football matters a.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
Little bit more.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
It's heart and head on this one, and I have
to be out. I love everything they stand for, and
my father does and my grandfather does. They haven't won
a playoff game in the last twenty two years. Last
twenty two years, NFL has been pretty great, hasn't it.
Do you find yourself watching the NFL twenty twos be like,
I don't.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
Know, it's just not that great without the Raiders.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
It's all so much nostalgia, and I love nostalgia, but
nostalgia has a place.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
And it's like I love Al Davis like he's been
going eleven years. Bo Jackson tech Well, I was nineteen
ninety one Autumn Win. That's great, guys.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
Autom Win was nineteen seventy four. Were you listening to
me speak? Were even alive in nineteen seventy four? It's
all wonderful stuff, and it's a huge part of the franchise.
But to say the NFL is better, I can't get there.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
I just can't. The NFL has been fantastic and they've
been terrible, So I hope they're better.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
It'd be really exciting. I think they're cool. I think
they have the best uniforms in the league. I'm rooting
for them. But no, I'd be dishonest if I really
just bought into this and said it for saying it's sake.
Speaker 6 (19:51):
This is an awkward paulse This is an awkward look.
I'm doing this on purpose for dramatic effect. I absolutely
disagree with you. You couldn't be furthest from the truth
on this one. First off, yes, I am all in
on this. First off, because the NFL is a better
place with the Raiders being at the top and the
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Raiders being relevant. And the reason why is, first off,
the Raiders are more than just a team. It is
a lifestyle. It is a vibe, it is a thing.
It is a real thing. You think about the NFL
and you think about the iconic teams, you think about
the Cornerstone. The Raiders make up the Cornerstone. Are a
cornerstone team. You've got the Raiders. You've got the Packers,
You've got the Cowboys, and of course you've got the Steelers.
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But when you think about the glory days of the Raiders,
you think about this, you think about that there is.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Only one nation, one nation. It's Raider Nation, and it's.
Speaker 6 (20:43):
A global phenomenon and everybody absolutely knows. In fact, I
would suggest that they're probably the only team in the
NFL that could claim a spot in the United Nations.
That's how popular this team is, that's how much people
want to be a part of this. But when I
look about and I think about the history prior to
that twenty two years we've been in a twenty two
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years and I say way because I'm a Raiders fan.
But prior to that, the Raiders have the second highest
winning percentage in the NFL. Everyone knows you look up
it that there's still at this point right now in
the league. They're top ten in merchandise sell because everyone
wants the silver and black. And I'll just kind of
end it with this one. They elevate when you think
about what the Raiders are, we are a little bit
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of grit, We're a little bit of attitude, and you know,
the attitude era from the WWE.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
You don't get that in any other team.
Speaker 6 (21:31):
The attitude comes from the black hole, from the nation,
and so when you have that, everyone wants a bad.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
Guy, but the good guy, the good bad guy, and
that's what the Raiders are. We're the good bad guys.
Speaker 6 (21:44):
And I'm telling you, Pete Carroll is about to make
a change, and you guys are gonna put some respect
on that name for the Raiders.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
Remember that. I hope he does.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
And I actually really am glad that you went before
me because that helps with my answer.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
I can be in on this, but I need a qualifier.
I was born in nineteen eighty eight.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
I don't have an understanding for the identity of the
Raiders no matter what city they're in, meaning that in
the time that I have been a football fan, grit
and attitude, I could probably pick like three or four
other franchises that in my era, in my generation, I
would apply those adjectives to. I've been watching more college
basketball recently, and then you watch it knowing that, oh,
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Kentucky's always going to have some one and done's Michigan
State doesn't matter if they're under five hundred, they very
well may find themselves in the sweet sixteen. Gonzaga probably
going to have a shooter that has a mustache and
he's twenty eight years old. Those are identities that I
am familiar with in the last thirty years. I can
be in on it being better because if the Raiders
are better and they're relevant, that means they're competing with
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a generational talent in the Kansas City Chiefs and Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
I'm in on that.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
I just as a thirty six year old football fan.
I don't apply grit and attitude those three other franchises
you mentioned. I know their identities.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
I get the.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
Packers, the Steelers, and the Cowboys. I don't understand the Raiders.
And I know I'm offending some people who look back
at that John Madden footage and they're like, but look
at that, But that's not what I inherently understand in
my thirty years of being a football fan. I'm in,
but it has I need some reidentification of the brand.
Speaker 5 (23:15):
Look, they have been from Oakland to Los Angeles, back
to Oakland and now to Vegas. They've been a transient franchise.
Yet Akbar's right, they have a big national fan base.
And that silver and black anytime there, anywhere you will
see them represent it. I will say this. You know,
we talked about it with the Bears. Kyle's a big
proponent of this. Rather not have to talk about Dicka
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and Singletary and not have to talk about Jim McMahon,
the funky QB that.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
Was nineteen eighty five. It's finally time. The Raiders have
already done the nostalgia thing.
Speaker 5 (23:46):
They went back to Gruden and it didn't work, yea,
And obviously it ended in the way it did. But
like now they're going to Pete Carroll, who has no
connection to this franchise.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
But it is kind of a throwback to.
Speaker 5 (23:57):
A different era as far as football goes, when the
Seahawks were hitting their stride about ten years ago.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
So see where it goes.
Speaker 5 (24:05):
But Acbar's right, the merchandise is high, the fan base
is real. It's cool when the Raiders are good, except
there isn't much in recent memory to say, oh yeah,
and like that was in the year blah blah blah blah. No, no, no,
Jamie's right, it's autumn wind and it's black and white,
and it's Madden getting gun caught off off his shoulders
and Marcus Allen doing a crazy run against the Red Sox.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
Unprecedented success, global expansion, and they've been sitting there in
the sideline, not any part of it. I remember the
attitude are very well. I remember every year during that era,
the Raiders would go two and fourteen and have Lane
Kiffin or Tom Cable.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
They've been doing nothing. You got to come back to
the party and give us something. We're gonna come back
to the part because you know where we're gonna go
off to. We're gonna go off to this.
Speaker 6 (24:45):
The only team that has its anthem and could play
in three cities.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
No other team can do that, play the anthem. Please,
let's go off to this. Oh they play in three cities,
win some of those games in any city. Let's come
on now, come on now. Is not to get romantic
with that. There is Marcus Allen during the run. Who
else hasn't Anthlem Nobody hasn't Anthom.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
We are the something for the last twenty years, not
even five twenty.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
There's a Charles Watson video in here somewhere.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
Oh man, it feels like a wild Card weekend was
in twenty twenty four.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
It was not it was this month.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
January is the longest experience ever. We are looking forward
to February and the rest of the year because there's
a super Bowl it happens that month. Let's look back
at some place from earlier this month. It feels like
ages ago that we saw some of our favorite moment moments.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
Peter, what would you like to look back at highlight again?
Speaker 3 (25:45):
Revisit if you will.
Speaker 5 (25:47):
Yeah, Jamie, I think the Kincaid drop is going to
be the play that's remembered from Josh Allen's playoff run here.
But remember he did win two games and take the
Bills to the doorstep of a super Bowl, and I
think he was hitting his absolute apex and that wildcard
round fourth and one, the play call is to pass
the ball and take a look at the actual pass itself.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
Fourth and one. Remember all they need into the yard.
Speaker 5 (26:10):
Josh Allen rolls out right, moves out left, looking looking,
and then just throws a dot to Ty Johnson who's
running across the back of the end zone.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
This Bills team was really fun this year.
Speaker 5 (26:22):
They had thirty rushing touchdowns thirty receiving touchdowns. They had
so many different players step up and the season's done,
but that moment right there, just like they're getting production
from everyone.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
Ty Johnson, third.
Speaker 5 (26:33):
Down back, makes the biggest play of the playoff game
and does so diving in the back of the end
zone a fourth and one.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
Very cool. That's a great call.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
I'm always in for the shock and awe, and that
comes when a one seed loses. I go to Washington
and Detroit's can Washington really beat this Lions machine?
Speaker 2 (26:49):
And they are a machine. They earn that one seed.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
You thought they might be able to do it, and
then when this play happened, you knew they were going.
Speaker 8 (26:55):
To do it. This was the interception off of golf,
the big hit at the end by Louvu again and
this was, Oh my god, the one seed's gonna get
knocked off the line, are going to be done, and
the Commanders really have something here and this rookie quarterback
could do crazy stuff. I know Detroit hates this and
they didn't want to see this, but this was a very,
very memorable moment from a very memorable game in the playoffs,
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in my opinion, the most memorable game outside of maybe
Bill's Chiefs. But this was crazy and that I feel
like the Commanders even in the loss.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
Over the week and are still celebrated. Yeah, hit the
Kwon Kwon hit that one big time.
Speaker 6 (27:27):
You know, I'm gonna go with one a little bit
more recent, going to the Championship Week, we saw that
big time play Commander's Eagles, and we saw the Commanders
come out on that eighteen play drive for almost sixteen
yards and what do the Eagles do? They come back
and in eighteen seconds run sixty yards. And it was
this man right here, Sae Kwon Barkley straight up just
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went what he went straight ytick and hit the spin
buttons on. I'm like, come on, man, we saw you
do the reverse. Then you come out here Championship Week
and you straight go joystick on them, hit the B
button with the spin boom, got them, got them, Coach,
That to me was spectacular. It was one play. It
was the best way to say, you know, you guys
got eighteen plays. You know what, gt oh whatever, you
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get them football out of here. That's exactly what he
told the Commanders what that play?
Speaker 3 (28:17):
My goodness, the tackling button on the blue joystick did
not work. And during that for the Commanders, I go
with a moment or a quote that really made me go,
oh my, but then when you follow up with it, you're.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
Like, okay, Jared Verse.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
Jared Verse hit the I hate Eagles fans with the quote,
and they gives me rage. The green and white gets
me all hot. And he goes on the field and
he's like, I'm sorry, what did you hear what I said?
Speaker 2 (28:43):
Yes, I said it. I am from Pennsylvania. Now I'm
going to show up in the snow with no sleeves on.
I am a rookie. I don't really care.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
And then he went out and played a game in
the postseason.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
The Rams are really fun to watch.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
It was everything that La needed in January at a
time the city needed something to look forward to. Now
was a couple of great playoff games. But Jared Verse,
I am, I'm so glad that we are going to
be talking about this guy come this off season, and
the fact that he gave us some heat against a
team in the NFC that is now representing in New Orleans.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
Jared Verse, way to go. I love you man. That's
a great one right there. Thank you. I'm enjoyed one.
Speaker 8 (29:17):
Kyle.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
I got to tell you something I have reached out
to some friends in tuscal Loose, Alabama, to see if
I can get the contact information to the Lewis family
so we can send them a scepter of sorts or
maybe a flower arrangement, an.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
Aceptor it's an interesting one. I love you doing the legwork.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
I don't know what the Lewis family's relationship is with
that play, if that's something that they're proud of, that
they're into. I got a very hilarious tweet about we'll
be be making a Tommy Lewis t shirt with him
running off the bench taking a helmet.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
Yes, homage, if you want to do it, let's do it.
That's a very funny thing.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
But if they would love the scepter, if they're proud
of it, we're happy to send.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
It to him with full respect.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
No other school. I feel like more fitting for the
like to text my friend there and be like, well,
we do have a museum slash alumni club and there's
an entire office dedicated to them. I'm like, of course
you do. Sure we get in touch with the Lewis
family so Kyle will see what they say. And now
this is a stay tuned situation on GMFB. When it
comes to the Angry Round.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
You might have to send too, send one to the
University of Alabama too.
Speaker 3 (30:15):
Yeah, that's exactly right. All right, awesome hour here on GMFB.
We got Ron Rivera coming up.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
Next hour, we got both season super Bowl to talk about.
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Speaker 3 (00:27):
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It's Tuesday, January twenty eight. Here is Akbar, Bodsby and Miller.
There's Peter Scheger, There's Kyle Brandt. I'm Jamie r at All,
Akbar grat to have you back. First, we start with
the two teams that remain in the Super Bowl. Yesterday,
Chiefs head coach Andy Reid addressed the media and he
emphasized the importance of not just one guy on this team,
and not just one game that got them there, the
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entire team coming together to help get this version of
Kansas City Chiefs to their third straight Super Bowl appearance.
Speaker 4 (00:59):
It takes everybody to get to this point. I say
this because we're nineteen games in this thing, and it's
not about one person or one player, one coach. It's
about everybody. It's everybody coming together. And there's no more
important game than the one we're going to play in
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that we need that joint effort and the other team
that we're playing the Eagles. They're there for a reason
is because they're a good football team, and so we've
got to make sure that we keep everything together and
work and get a nice plan together for this group.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
All right, batting lead off for our first topic of
the day on GMFB. Biggest winner besides Andy Reid's facial
hair of Championship Week, Peter, what do you got?
Speaker 5 (01:49):
I'm going to go with Andy Reid's right hand man,
and that's not Patrick Mahomes or Matt n Aggie. It's
Steve Spagnolo, a guy who's been coaching with Andy Reid
since the early two thousands in Philadelphia. Spags put the
clamps on the Bills when it mattered most, and he
did so at the goal line, on two point conversions
and on fourth downs in key spots. Throughout this game,
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Buffalo is going up and down the field and Josh
Allen was having his way, but when they needed him
in short distances, it was the Chiefs defense that stepped
up huge. Of course, we have this one the most
controversial play of the weekend.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Did he have it? Did he not have it? It
was ruled short.
Speaker 5 (02:28):
Whether he got it or not, and whether the spot
up top had him getting it. Bottom line is this,
Josh Allen did not go four yards and plunged through everybody.
Josh Allen did not get out on the goal line
and go left and just get touchdowns where they needed.
Spags had his team prepped and ready, and the defensive
line was ready. Then in the biggest play of the game,
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the fourth and five at the end, you've got Dalton
Kincaid eking out. But really it was the pre step stuff.
Spags had not thrown the corner blitz at Josh Allen
all game.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
He does. He throws it off his back.
Speaker 5 (03:01):
Foot, throws well, if nothing, sort of a perfect pass
in that situation. But that is not the ideal pass
you get on a fourth and five your quarterback plunging
backwards through the air. It's because of a well disguised
quarterback blitz. Why am i starting with the defensive coordinator
Because we just watched Philadelphia score seven rushing touchdowns in
a game and go up and down the field on
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the Commanders, and Spags is now on the doorstep to
not only solidifying where he is on the all time
coordinator list, but extending his league. Take a look at
this full screen out here that the Crack Research team
put together here already with one with the Giants and.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Three with the Chiefs.
Speaker 5 (03:39):
Steve Spagnolo is the most decorated coordinator in Super Bowl history.
He gets another against his former team, a team that
he used to coach for. Well, that's five, and that
is a two Super.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Bowl lead over the.
Speaker 5 (03:54):
Next third ory five Patriots coordinators that are beneath him.
I thought that that game was going to come down
to the quarterbacks.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
It didn't.
Speaker 5 (04:02):
It came down to the defense was able to stop
the quarterbacks because when Kansas City gets the ball in
their next possession on a third and nine, samaj p
Ryan goes left, they get him on the pass play
and they put the game away. Spags once again came
up big in the biggest spot, and I think he
is a key reason, if not the reason in the
end that the Chiefs are playing in Super Bowl and
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not the Buffalo.
Speaker 6 (04:24):
You're you're one hundred percent right, because I mean that
that game that Spagnole called was just absolutely it was
fun to watch.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
You get you get off on watching.
Speaker 6 (04:33):
Good defense like that and being able to be very
creative with his calls and his blitz calls and especially
the timing of it. But for me, Peter Kyle Jamie,
I think the person who was the biggest winner for
Championship Week has to go to Jalen Hurts. And I
think because Jalen Hurts he defied all the odds. You know,
there was this entire narrative, you know that came into
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this picture where you know, he had this playoff history
where we knew that if he threw in his three
prior playoff games, if he threw for over two or
three yards, we knew he automatically was going to lose
that game because that's what history told us. Over two
hundred yards, it's an l Well, he changed that whole thing.
He came into this game ready to play football. Two
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hundred and forty six yards in the air, four touchdowns,
zero turned overs. He really showed up and delivered. But
on top of that, I mean, he was a decisive
passer throughout this entire thing. He was an elite runner
when needed to, yes, and of course the touch push
everyone appreciates that. But he went out there and he
silenced all the doubters. He did something that very few
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quarterbacks have done, is to go out there in the
past we know back in twenty twenty two he loses
that first Super Bowl to be able to return back
to come to this presence. There have been thirty six
quarterbacks who've gone out there and they lost their first
Super Bowl and only three have come back to win it.
And when you look at that, it's a prestigious name,
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by the way, John Elway, Lynn Dahlson and of course
Bob Gracie. Those are the three guys. Now you can
add mister Jalen Hurst to go out there and at
least go back and try to get an opportunity to
go out there and win a Super Bowl. So shout
out to him because he was the big winner to me.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Now he was awesome and he's got his work cut
off for him. He's got a score to shuttle.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
Was with the Chiefs, Peter, I have a spags take
okay okay. And we've talked so much about the year.
Sometimes we joke about it throughout the years about how
do you stop the Chiefs?
Speaker 2 (06:25):
How did you rail the Chiefs?
Speaker 1 (06:26):
And remember after they drafted Xavier Worthy, our reaction was like,
how did the thirty one other teams let them get Exavier?
We're the fastest play in the history of the combine,
Maybe shouldn't the team hire Steve Spagnolo to be their
head coach and then you take them from the chiefs
and you weaken your enemy.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
It never comes up. It's never a discussion.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
All anybody ever wants to talk about on social media,
including yourself, is coaching hires, coaching hires. I never seen
his name anywhere, and all he does is go to
the soup bow every year.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
What's going on? He had to go on.
Speaker 5 (06:52):
He had a couple of those via zoom the first
week of the playoffs where it's like, all right, you
can't interview these guys in person because they've got the
ones DA and then that was it. It died right there.
So for another year he doesn't get another person interviews.
Spags completely shut out, And you know, I don't know
if it's an ageous thing, and I've always just assumed, well,
they don't want an old white defensive coordinator at this
stage of his career.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Look at pet Carroll. They just hired Peek Carol.
Speaker 5 (07:15):
Everyone's doing flips word kill Belichick, and I think Spags
does connect with the young player.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
Just get them away from Kansas City guys.
Speaker 5 (07:21):
The thought is that these older defensive coaches can't connect
with the young player anymore, that there's a sixty.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Year gap or a forty year gap. Kyle, I'm with you.
Speaker 5 (07:31):
We're giving jobs away now to guys, and we're doing
flip to justify it. Nothing against Brian.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Schottenheimer or a Liam Cohen, but you.
Speaker 5 (07:39):
Don't think Spags deserves the same kind of interview process
as those guys. He doesn't get it for whatever reason,
and it's.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Kansas City's benefit.
Speaker 5 (07:46):
But I could tell you he's not up at night
losing sleepover and it seems like he's pretty happy.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Him and Maria.
Speaker 5 (07:50):
They're eating their Ville parmejan every Monday night, as he says.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
But I think you're right.
Speaker 5 (07:55):
I don't understand why he's not considered the same way
some of the young, upstart offensive coaches are.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Every year.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
I would think maybe you know the Raiders, who obviously
just show they're not afraid of hiring an older gentleman
and could hire from the Envision Rible.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
It's all hypothetical. He wouldn't go to the Raars.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
I'm just saying, Spagnolo, if you're looking for a way
to weaken the Chiefs, one of these years, one of
these decades, maybe hire him away. I don't remember a
lot about the news and the news cycle about when
Nick Sirianni was hired and where he came from, but
I do remember that in his first year, Nick sirian
he was now in the Super Bowl again, was two
and five, and to motivate his team in his first
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year as a head coach, he showed the Philadelphia Eagles
a picture of a flower and went into a long,
extended metaphor and I quote, the only way the roots
grow out every single day, the stronger they grow is
we water them and we all fertilized them.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
And then the flower comes and we're all sitting at me, like.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
What are we doing? This is the Eagles head coach.
What It was a crazy press conference, that guy who's
talking about flowers and blooming and just I don't know
where he was going.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Look where he is now. This is that guy who
went at two and five.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
So I'm going to go to my flower metaphor and
now I'm going to go back.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
To the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
Youngest head coach to coach in two McVay tomlin Shula
gives Siriani there he is.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
That is a hell of a group.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
To be in a hell of a group forty three
years old, I've been to two and by the way, again.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
I'm going to go against.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
The guy who used to do this job years ago
and couldn't get over the hump.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
In title games and title games and title games, I
don't know. I'm pretty good title games.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
Nick Sirianni is a nice little record going. I also
just think it is a really cool thing that he
is going back and he has done this thing. We
fast forward last year, the team completely collapses, died on
a vine. There's your plant metaphor. Then they come back
this year and there's this sense of wait. Nick Sirianni
gets to stay and all the coordinators get whacked, and
he's just gonna sit here and be a CEO and
let the coordinators cook. He doesn't get the respect from
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the media. You know who gets the respect from the players.
The players. If you've seen Cam Jurgens talk about it.
If you've seen Jordan Maylata, they love Siriani. Of course,
Fangio and Moore do great stuff. They're tenured guys, are
really respected. He does the middleman stuff, he does the
leader stuff. He likes the players. You can't argue with
results metaphors, Rocky t sh or it's weird press conferences whatever.
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He is in his second Super Bowl and he's in
his early forties. I think Nick Sirianni won the title
game week.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
So back before the season started, we had our NBC special,
if you guys remember, and in preparation for that show,
I did this interview with Nick Sirianni and it was
like a fifteen minute one on one interview of which
we used like ninety seconds. But I swear in the
next twelve days, I want to go back through that
footage and I want to unearth some of the things
that he said, because Kyle, to your point, let's just
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say it was gently suggested that I don't ask a
lot about the fact that they had a rough ending
to the season before that is the relationship between Sirianni
and Jalen Hurts rough. Well, look at where they are now.
I kind of want to go back and see what
Sirianni was about on September first, and I want to
play it this week on the show because I think
that shows a lot about what he did this offseason
and how he was able to improve, not only himself,
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but also how he approached this team to find them
in another look at them.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Yeah they are they have no great so great.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
We're happy because GMFB is happening on a Tuesday. Got
a lot to get to, like tush push conversations.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
We saw a lot of it on Sunday, Peter.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
We saw a very different tactic as to how to
stop it. It didn't work. Eagles were almost gifted a
touchdown because of it.
Speaker 5 (11:14):
Peter, you got more on this, Yes, and it's time
to talk about the tushy pushy. Isn't that what we
were called at one Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
We'll get to it. Tush push talk a lot of it.
There was a lot of it this weekend.
Speaker 5 (11:31):
Time for a segment we call we in or we uh.
The term is the tush push and it's a play
that we've seen quite a lot from the Philadelphia Eagles
over the past three years. It has been a staple
in their goal line package and on fourth downs, and
yet this weekend it felt like we saw it from
all four teams on what felt like every play. It
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was just a lot of tush push. The base offense
is the base offense. Are all courtsy to the AMC
d Champion Brad it was a lot pretty play. It's
a scrum, and yet it's one of those if you
don't like it, stop it type deals. And well, the
Kansaity Chiefs defense did stop it for when the Bills
tried it a few times. But it's not really aesthetically pleasing.
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Talked about it last off season at length.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
Nothing changed. Here's the statement.
Speaker 5 (12:21):
Should the NFL Competition Committee get rid of the tush
push this season?
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Should they?
Speaker 5 (12:28):
Are we in or we out on getting rid of
the toush push making it illegal?
Speaker 2 (12:33):
I am out.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
I am staunchly out because I just see all the
reasons to get rid of it. I don't agree with
any of them. I used to hear that it's unsafe.
It's an unsafe, but no, it's not. It's actually less
dangerous than a standard running play because there's less impact.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
The one that they.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Say it's not a football play, I disagree. We pushed
as hard as we can this way. You push as
hard as you can this way. That's how Rutgers and
Princeton were doing it in eighteen sixty nine.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
That's the very essence of football.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
And dare I say we could we should return to
a little bit of that. Maybe it's not so esthetically pleasing.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
You also have Peter. You mentioned this, well.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
You can't stop, but yes you can. The Chiefs just
stopped it three times in one game. It can be stopped. Also,
I like that the Chiefs don't do it, so if
they take it away, people won't scream that they're hurting
the Chiefs like. There's nothing like that going on. I
like the play. I know, we just have a lot
of the play. NFL Instagram just posted some clips from
the Left Chief's Eagles Super Bowl. There's Jalen Hurts on
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the goal line. God, are pushing them right in for
a touchdown. You have to do better than just I
don't know. I don't like it. It happens too much.
I don't see any rules being broken. I don't see
any esthetics being broken. And maybe just part of me
likes you push and I pushed. Let's see who's the tough.
Speaker 5 (13:39):
I remember a couple of years ago, two years ago,
you sat with an actual astro physicist to discuss the
dynamics and the physics of the tush push.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
I mean, there is simply some science to this thing, right.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
I went and I sat with Neil deGrasse Tyson up
in the Natural History Museum up town of Manhattan, where
he sat and we sat down to understand. This is
a man who gets asked on the street is time
travel possible? And our aliens out there? And he has
answers for those you ask him, how do you stop
the touchespecially goes, I got nothing. He did not have
an answer, and he went into all the physics of
it and says, not really, it's you just say I
(14:16):
don't have an answer for you. And then we laughed
about it because he has answers for everything. But my
answer to not being able to stop it is not
cancel it, because again the chiefs just to fied Neil
de grass Tyson and figure out three times how to
stop it.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
You know what I'm in on this one. It's corny.
Speaker 6 (14:31):
I've seen enough of it. I'm done with it, like
I really am. Like when you think about it, first off,
I want to address.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
The safety issue on this thing. There is a safety issue.
Speaker 6 (14:39):
Because watching that game, when you see the Commander's Frankie
Louvu going over the top like he's in the wwe
just trying to stop this, trying to figure out a
way to figure out this, Like, at some point, somebody's
going to figure out a way to stop this like that.
It's got a seventy percent this season, they ran it
in a seventy percent success rate. That's a high success
rate for a single play like this. But you look
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at that he's put himself in the defensive position like that,
somebody's gonna.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Get hurt like that.
Speaker 6 (15:05):
Furthermore, when you know, back in my day, and I
don't want to sound like one of these dudes, but
I'm about to get on the soapbox. Back in my day,
they made a whole big fuss about the linebackers pushing
the defensive lineman on pat and field goals, talking about oh,
defenseless with a long snapper, And I'm like, what, like,
come on, we're playing football.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
How is that any different?
Speaker 6 (15:26):
But the only difference is is that you get to
score on this, So of course there's a little bit
more advantage because it's scoring and it's producing longer drives.
But I think it's corny, man, Like, it's just too predictable.
I want variety. I want to be entertained. I can
go off and go get something to eat real quick.
When they're doing the touch bush. It's nothing exciting about it.
I say, get rid of it. Let's do something more
(15:48):
in the studio.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
You's awkward. Furthermore, that was a very like you were
with it on that.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
Furthermore, I am I respect and appreciate.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
I am out on this as well.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
Unless someone else, and if someone else, I mean half
the league can start doing this the way the Eagles can,
you have to let them keep doing it. Everyone else
is just mad and cranky. All these other fans are
just mad and cranky that they can't get the job
done the way the Eagles can.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
Esthetically pleasing is not why you watch football.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
Go watch figure skating if you want that, Peter, I
am out on this.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Okay, Well, one last thing, one last thing.
Speaker 6 (16:20):
Can you imagine if the Commanders went and did the
touch push for the eighteen play drive, or you watch
any team just do the touch push all the way
until they get down to it.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
Can you imagine watching it? Is that what you want
to watch? Is that what we're saying? Is that what
we're saying.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
But you can't because you wouldn't gain the first down
that way, because you're only getting like one or two.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Yards maybe somebody spill out or something like that. It's whack.
I like watching it. I think it's funny. There's legs
and arms everywhere, these people jumping. I think it's fun.
I won't say that.
Speaker 5 (16:47):
It's like for the Eagles their offense, it's like, all right,
first and ten, all you do is get seven yards,
get seven yards in the first two downs, and then
on third and fourth down you can do the touch pusch.
You're gonna get it first down. It has simplified things
for them. I might be with docbar on this though,
like I don't like watching it, and this is just
object like watching it. I'm watching football.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
I'm like, oh, tush push, all right, here we going.
Speaker 5 (17:09):
And only they're trying to draw them off sides. Oh,
they're actually doing it. Like I don't know, that's just me.
And maybe they'll change this soft season, or maybe they won't.
Maybe it's the future of the sport.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
I'm tired of saying toush push. I'll give you that.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
I agree of the term tush I don't want to
say tush push feels like a nursery rhyme.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
What am I talking about about? Or something like that. Yeah,
we've tried. We've tried. Yeah, Oh sorry, I.
Speaker 5 (17:34):
Have a feeling we're going to see a lot of
the blank blank over the next two weeks Super Bowl,
there will be plenty of it. Maybe we can workshop
a new term for it if I don't like the
word tush push all right. There were like three different
press conferences going on at once yesterday welcoming in new
head coaches gyms, and then a fourth later in the
afternoon with Liam Cohen the Raiders.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
One might have stole the day though.
Speaker 5 (17:57):
Here is new Raiders general manager John spy Tech, first
year general manager, came from Tampa at his introductory press
conference talking.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
About the Silver and Black and what that means in
the league. Take a listen.
Speaker 7 (18:10):
When I dreamt about having one of these jobs, I
always wanted it to be with an iconic franchise like
the Raiders. I'm not sure I ever got far enough
in my dreams as a young kid in Pelwaukee, Wisconsin
that I could be sitting.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
Up here today with the Raiders. But here I am.
Speaker 7 (18:24):
And there's just some teams where it means a little
bit more. There's just some teams where they deserve to
be a The NFL is better when they're crushing it.
Speaker 5 (18:36):
Crushing it is an overstatement here, but we're gonna go
with something a little more tame on this one. The
NFL is a better league when the Raiders are relevant.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
Are we enter? We out Kyle?
Speaker 5 (18:46):
When you see that logo and they're actually playing meaningful games,
football matters a.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
Little bit more.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
It's heart and head on this one, and I have
to be out. I love everything they stand for, and
my father does and my grandfather does. They haven't won
a playoff game in the last twenty two years. Last
twenty two years, NFL has been pretty great, hasn't it.
Do you find yourself watching the NFL twenty twos be like,
I don't.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
Know, it's just not that great without the Raiders.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
It's all so much nostalgia, and I love nostalgia, but
nostalgia has a place.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
And it's like I love Al Davis like he's been
going eleven years. Bo Jackson tech Well, I was nineteen
ninety one Autumn Win. That's great, guys.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
Autom Win was nineteen seventy four. Were you listening to
me speak? Were even alive in nineteen seventy four? It's
all wonderful stuff, and it's a huge part of the franchise.
But to say the NFL is better, I can't get there.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
I just can't. The NFL has been fantastic and they've
been terrible, So I hope they're better.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
It'd be really exciting. I think they're cool. I think
they have the best uniforms in the league. I'm rooting
for them. But no, I'd be dishonest if I really
just bought into this and said it for saying it's sake.
Speaker 6 (19:51):
This is an awkward paulse This is an awkward look.
I'm doing this on purpose for dramatic effect. I absolutely
disagree with you. You couldn't be furthest from the truth
on this one. First off, yes, I am all in
on this. First off, because the NFL is a better
place with the Raiders being at the top and the
(20:11):
Raiders being relevant. And the reason why is, first off,
the Raiders are more than just a team. It is
a lifestyle. It is a vibe, it is a thing.
It is a real thing. You think about the NFL
and you think about the iconic teams, you think about
the Cornerstone. The Raiders make up the Cornerstone. Are a
cornerstone team. You've got the Raiders. You've got the Packers,
You've got the Cowboys, and of course you've got the Steelers.
(20:33):
But when you think about the glory days of the Raiders,
you think about this, you think about that there is.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Only one nation, one nation. It's Raider Nation, and it's.
Speaker 6 (20:43):
A global phenomenon and everybody absolutely knows. In fact, I
would suggest that they're probably the only team in the
NFL that could claim a spot in the United Nations.
That's how popular this team is, that's how much people
want to be a part of this. But when I
look about and I think about the history prior to
that twenty two years we've been in a twenty two
(21:04):
years and I say way because I'm a Raiders fan.
But prior to that, the Raiders have the second highest
winning percentage in the NFL. Everyone knows you look up
it that there's still at this point right now in
the league. They're top ten in merchandise sell because everyone
wants the silver and black. And I'll just kind of
end it with this one. They elevate when you think
about what the Raiders are, we are a little bit
(21:25):
of grit, We're a little bit of attitude, and you know,
the attitude era from the WWE.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
You don't get that in any other team.
Speaker 6 (21:31):
The attitude comes from the black hole, from the nation,
and so when you have that, everyone wants a bad.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
Guy, but the good guy, the good bad guy, and
that's what the Raiders are. We're the good bad guys.
Speaker 6 (21:44):
And I'm telling you, Pete Carroll is about to make
a change, and you guys are gonna put some respect
on that name for the Raiders.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
Remember that. I hope he does.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
And I actually really am glad that you went before
me because that helps with my answer.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
I can be in on this, but I need a qualifier.
I was born in nineteen eighty eight.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
I don't have an understanding for the identity of the
Raiders no matter what city they're in, meaning that in
the time that I have been a football fan, grit
and attitude, I could probably pick like three or four
other franchises that in my era, in my generation, I
would apply those adjectives to. I've been watching more college
basketball recently, and then you watch it knowing that, oh,
(22:21):
Kentucky's always going to have some one and done's Michigan
State doesn't matter if they're under five hundred, they very
well may find themselves in the sweet sixteen. Gonzaga probably
going to have a shooter that has a mustache and
he's twenty eight years old. Those are identities that I
am familiar with in the last thirty years. I can
be in on it being better because if the Raiders
are better and they're relevant, that means they're competing with
(22:41):
a generational talent in the Kansas City Chiefs and Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
I'm in on that.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
I just as a thirty six year old football fan.
I don't apply grit and attitude those three other franchises
you mentioned. I know their identities.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
I get the.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
Packers, the Steelers, and the Cowboys. I don't understand the Raiders.
And I know I'm offending some people who look back
at that John Madden footage and they're like, but look
at that, But that's not what I inherently understand in
my thirty years of being a football fan. I'm in,
but it has I need some reidentification of the brand.
Speaker 5 (23:15):
Look, they have been from Oakland to Los Angeles, back
to Oakland and now to Vegas. They've been a transient franchise.
Yet Akbar's right, they have a big national fan base.
And that silver and black anytime there, anywhere you will
see them represent it. I will say this. You know,
we talked about it with the Bears. Kyle's a big
proponent of this. Rather not have to talk about Dicka
(23:37):
and Singletary and not have to talk about Jim McMahon,
the funky QB that.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
Was nineteen eighty five. It's finally time. The Raiders have
already done the nostalgia thing.
Speaker 5 (23:46):
They went back to Gruden and it didn't work, yea,
And obviously it ended in the way it did. But
like now they're going to Pete Carroll, who has no
connection to this franchise.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
But it is kind of a throwback to.
Speaker 5 (23:57):
A different era as far as football goes, when the
Seahawks were hitting their stride about ten years ago.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
So see where it goes.
Speaker 5 (24:05):
But Acbar's right, the merchandise is high, the fan base
is real. It's cool when the Raiders are good, except
there isn't much in recent memory to say, oh yeah,
and like that was in the year blah blah blah blah. No, no, no,
Jamie's right, it's autumn wind and it's black and white,
and it's Madden getting gun caught off off his shoulders
and Marcus Allen doing a crazy run against the Red Sox.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
Unprecedented success, global expansion, and they've been sitting there in
the sideline, not any part of it. I remember the
attitude are very well. I remember every year during that era,
the Raiders would go two and fourteen and have Lane
Kiffin or Tom Cable.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
They've been doing nothing. You got to come back to
the party and give us something. We're gonna come back
to the part because you know where we're gonna go
off to. We're gonna go off to this.
Speaker 6 (24:45):
The only team that has its anthem and could play
in three cities.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
No other team can do that, play the anthem. Please,
let's go off to this. Oh they play in three cities,
win some of those games in any city. Let's come
on now, come on now. Is not to get romantic
with that. There is Marcus Allen during the run. Who
else hasn't Anthlem Nobody hasn't Anthom.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
We are the something for the last twenty years, not
even five twenty.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
There's a Charles Watson video in here somewhere.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
Oh man, it feels like a wild Card weekend was
in twenty twenty four.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
It was not it was this month.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
January is the longest experience ever. We are looking forward
to February and the rest of the year because there's
a super Bowl it happens that month. Let's look back
at some place from earlier this month. It feels like
ages ago that we saw some of our favorite moment moments.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
Peter, what would you like to look back at highlight again?
Speaker 3 (25:45):
Revisit if you will.
Speaker 5 (25:47):
Yeah, Jamie, I think the Kincaid drop is going to
be the play that's remembered from Josh Allen's playoff run here.
But remember he did win two games and take the
Bills to the doorstep of a super Bowl, and I
think he was hitting his absolute apex and that wildcard
round fourth and one, the play call is to pass
the ball and take a look at the actual pass itself.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
Fourth and one. Remember all they need into the yard.
Speaker 5 (26:10):
Josh Allen rolls out right, moves out left, looking looking,
and then just throws a dot to Ty Johnson who's
running across the back of the end zone.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
This Bills team was really fun this year.
Speaker 5 (26:22):
They had thirty rushing touchdowns thirty receiving touchdowns. They had
so many different players step up and the season's done,
but that moment right there, just like they're getting production
from everyone.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
Ty Johnson, third.
Speaker 5 (26:33):
Down back, makes the biggest play of the playoff game
and does so diving in the back of the end
zone a fourth and one.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
Very cool. That's a great call.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
I'm always in for the shock and awe, and that
comes when a one seed loses. I go to Washington
and Detroit's can Washington really beat this Lions machine?
Speaker 2 (26:49):
And they are a machine. They earn that one seed.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
You thought they might be able to do it, and
then when this play happened, you knew they were going.
Speaker 8 (26:55):
To do it. This was the interception off of golf,
the big hit at the end by Louvu again and
this was, Oh my god, the one seed's gonna get
knocked off the line, are going to be done, and
the Commanders really have something here and this rookie quarterback
could do crazy stuff. I know Detroit hates this and
they didn't want to see this, but this was a very,
very memorable moment from a very memorable game in the playoffs,
(27:17):
in my opinion, the most memorable game outside of maybe
Bill's Chiefs. But this was crazy and that I feel
like the Commanders even in the loss.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
Over the week and are still celebrated. Yeah, hit the
Kwon Kwon hit that one big time.
Speaker 6 (27:27):
You know, I'm gonna go with one a little bit
more recent, going to the Championship Week, we saw that
big time play Commander's Eagles, and we saw the Commanders
come out on that eighteen play drive for almost sixteen
yards and what do the Eagles do? They come back
and in eighteen seconds run sixty yards. And it was
this man right here, Sae Kwon Barkley straight up just
(27:48):
went what he went straight ytick and hit the spin
buttons on. I'm like, come on, man, we saw you
do the reverse. Then you come out here Championship Week
and you straight go joystick on them, hit the B
button with the spin boom, got them, got them, Coach,
That to me was spectacular. It was one play. It
was the best way to say, you know, you guys
got eighteen plays. You know what, gt oh whatever, you
(28:12):
get them football out of here. That's exactly what he
told the Commanders what that play?
Speaker 3 (28:17):
My goodness, the tackling button on the blue joystick did
not work. And during that for the Commanders, I go
with a moment or a quote that really made me go,
oh my, but then when you follow up with it, you're.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
Like, okay, Jared Verse.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
Jared Verse hit the I hate Eagles fans with the quote,
and they gives me rage. The green and white gets
me all hot. And he goes on the field and
he's like, I'm sorry, what did you hear what I said?
Speaker 2 (28:43):
Yes, I said it. I am from Pennsylvania. Now I'm
going to show up in the snow with no sleeves on.
I am a rookie. I don't really care.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
And then he went out and played a game in
the postseason.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
The Rams are really fun to watch.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
It was everything that La needed in January at a
time the city needed something to look forward to. Now
was a couple of great playoff games. But Jared Verse,
I am, I'm so glad that we are going to
be talking about this guy come this off season, and
the fact that he gave us some heat against a
team in the NFC that is now representing in New Orleans.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
Jared Verse, way to go. I love you man. That's
a great one right there. Thank you. I'm enjoyed one.
Speaker 8 (29:17):
Kyle.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
I got to tell you something I have reached out
to some friends in tuscal Loose, Alabama, to see if
I can get the contact information to the Lewis family
so we can send them a scepter of sorts or
maybe a flower arrangement, an.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
Aceptor it's an interesting one. I love you doing the legwork.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
I don't know what the Lewis family's relationship is with
that play, if that's something that they're proud of, that
they're into. I got a very hilarious tweet about we'll
be be making a Tommy Lewis t shirt with him
running off the bench taking a helmet.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
Yes, homage, if you want to do it, let's do it.
That's a very funny thing.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
But if they would love the scepter, if they're proud
of it, we're happy to send.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
It to him with full respect.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
No other school. I feel like more fitting for the
like to text my friend there and be like, well,
we do have a museum slash alumni club and there's
an entire office dedicated to them. I'm like, of course
you do. Sure we get in touch with the Lewis
family so Kyle will see what they say. And now
this is a stay tuned situation on GMFB. When it
comes to the Angry Round.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
You might have to send too, send one to the
University of Alabama too.
Speaker 3 (30:15):
Yeah, that's exactly right. All right, awesome hour here on GMFB.
We got Ron Rivera coming up.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
Next hour, we got both season super Bowl to talk about.
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