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May 20, 2025 38 mins

Hour One of the Good Morning Football Podcast begins with hosts Colleen Wolfe, Kyle Brandt, Will Blackmon and Michael Brockers discussing how the Baltimore Ravens can get over the hump and win a Super Bowl. Should the ’Tush Push’ stay or be banned? Will Travis Hunter or Cam Ward have a bigger impact their rookie season? Jaguars DE Arik Armstead joins the show and talks about the thing he’s most proud of, and his team drafting Travis Hunter.

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Speaker 1 (00:04):
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Speaker 2 (00:09):
What's up, everybody, Welcome in to GMFB on this Tuesday.
I'm Colleen Wolf and I got two guys in studio
with me today. We got former Rams legend Michael Brockers
and Super Bowl champ Will Lack Mean here, he's so party.

Speaker 1 (00:26):
I'm so sorry.

Speaker 2 (00:27):
Kyle, you're the only one not here, but you are
a vision this morning in that Kelly Green.

Speaker 1 (00:34):
I'm putting that vision out right now because this is
Kelly Green. This is the embodiment of a little thing
called the tush push, which is a highly endangered species
here in New York City, in every NFL city. And
after the show, you think I'm joking, I'm not. I'm
going to go out and pound the pavement. I got
a megaphone right here. I'm going to campaign for the
tush Push and I'm gonna see how the people are
feeling about the Toush Push. We will try to save

(00:57):
the Toush Push.

Speaker 3 (00:58):
We will save it, and I promise we'll get the
work done.

Speaker 4 (01:00):
Guys. That's great.

Speaker 2 (01:01):
We need sandwich board, all of it. I'm so excited
out let's go let's gold.

Speaker 3 (01:05):
Let's do it.

Speaker 2 (01:18):
Good mom Football, Hello everybody, and thanks for hanging out
with us this morning. I love the fact that Kyle
is going to be campaigning for the Toush push with
that megaphone. I did mention, sandwich board, do you have
anything like that, because I feel like.

Speaker 1 (01:36):
No, I have a sandwich national. I have thoughts, guys.
I'm going to ask the people of New York City. Now,
maybe they'll be giants fens and they'll be biased, but
should the Toush push go or should it stay? Democracy
will take over on the streets, and then it will
take over at the league meeting where I think we
got about maybe twenty four hours before that thing is rip.
But we'll talk about it.

Speaker 5 (01:56):
Today, all right, Yeah, we gotta go. We gotta start lobbying.

Speaker 4 (01:58):
A quick story.

Speaker 2 (01:59):
When I first started in sports, I worked at the
sports talk radio station and they would send me out
to do all these like crazy bits, and one of
them sure was to stand on the corner of Fifth
and Market.

Speaker 5 (02:10):
It was four o'clock in the morning.

Speaker 2 (02:12):
I had sandwich board, a megabone, a megaphone, a Salvation
Army bell, and then a huge container to collect money
for too, because it was during his contract dispute and
he said he didn't.

Speaker 4 (02:22):
Have enough money to feed his kids.

Speaker 2 (02:25):
So I just want to go back and thank everyone
who did donate, and Kyle, I hope you have the
same type of impact.

Speaker 5 (02:30):
That I had with too.

Speaker 2 (02:32):
With that, shall we kick things off this sorting?

Speaker 4 (02:34):
Let's go all right?

Speaker 5 (02:36):
So Ravens Pro Bowl running back Dereck Henry.

Speaker 2 (02:39):
Yesterday, he officially signed the two year, thirty million dollar
extension keeping him in Baltimore through twenty twenty seven and
refinished seconds in the NFL with almost two thousand yards
rushing and tied for the league lead with sixteen rushing
touchdowns last season.

Speaker 5 (02:53):
Now, after spending his initial eight years.

Speaker 2 (02:55):
In Tennessee, he said all he wanted to do was
make a good first impression with his new team.

Speaker 6 (03:02):
Come here, everything was new, and all I wanted to
do is gain my respect from my teammates and everybody
in this organization.

Speaker 3 (03:12):
By the way I'm.

Speaker 6 (03:12):
Working, carried myself and over time as I got here,
you know, I just fell in love with with everything
with the brotherhood, by the way they work on how
to approach everything. And then getting to the seasons is
like ice and knowing the Kate, Yeah, I.

Speaker 2 (03:28):
Think he proved himself pretty well, so he understood the assignment.

Speaker 4 (03:31):
Job well done.

Speaker 2 (03:32):
Everyone sort of knows now though, that they Ravens loved.

Speaker 5 (03:35):
To run the ball.

Speaker 2 (03:36):
They knew it before Derrick Henry was there obviously now
even more so with Derrick Henry and Lamar Jackson. Then
you have Justin Hill Justice Hill in there too, who
was so underrated. But Kyle, how do the Ravens at
this point get over the hump? I don't know what
we're defining the hump as, but how will you describe it?

Speaker 5 (03:53):
And how do they get there?

Speaker 1 (03:55):
The hump is the AFC. The hump is winning a
Super Bowl. The hump is getting to a Super Bowl.
I always enjoy Ravens fans. I think they're a good crew.
I think they're very football smarts. They love their team,
they're fun to interact with, but they're really sensitive when
it comes to number eight, Lamar Jackson. So I'm just
gonna stick to the facts, your guys, what do they
need to get over the hump? Lamar Jackson needs to
play his best football in the playoffs, and he doesn't

(04:16):
do that, and he hasn't done that. He's a spectacular
player who is everything right with the league, who is
amazing in the regular season and pretty good in the playoffs.
He does not play his a game in the playoffs.

Speaker 3 (04:28):
That's a fact.

Speaker 1 (04:29):
Their number is to back it up, there's film to
back it up. I'm not saying he never will. I'm
just saying he hasn't. And inevitably it comes up comparisons
with Josh Allen and people say, well, Josh Allen always
loses in the playoffs. I said, the numbers back it up.
Don't make that comparison. Lamar in the playoffs is ten touchdowns,
seven interceptions. Josh is twenty five and four. Lamar in
the playoffs complete some percentages down from the regular season.

(04:50):
Josh is up Lamar in the playoffs. His quarterback rating
is significantly lower from the regular season. Josh Allen's is
significantly higher. Lamar Jackson is a spectacular player. He is
not a spectacular post player. Yet Dak is better in
the playoffs than Lamar Jackson. And that's fine. That is
just a fact. And everyone said, no, you don't understand.

(05:12):
I do understand. We've not watched it once or twice.
We've watched it several times that playoff loss last year.
He wasn't bad, He wasn't even average. He was good
in that game, but he wasn't great, and he surely
wasn't special by his standards. Until we get a special
run from Lamar Jackson, I don't think they're getting there.

(05:32):
Bills are different problems. They get special runs from their
quarterback and they still don't get there. I would love
to see a Ravens playoff run. That is that Josh
Allen thing. We're like, Wow, they cannot stop Lamar. He
has his a game. They gotta win this one. We
have not seen that yet. I hope we do next year.
I don't know, man.

Speaker 7 (05:50):
I agree with Kyle, but you know, compare you saying
that Dak was better than Lamar's crazy work. I just
don't agree with that. But I do agree with they
need to play mistake free football because you know every playoff,
you know something happens, the ball is dropped, you know
interceptions are thrown in the playoffs in the most critical games.

(06:12):
So I definitely think they need to play mistake free
football to win. I think that's the easiest the way
to summarize it, because you know these are games do
or die, you win or go home. So you know,
like like Kyle said, man, mistake free football will help
them get over the hump.

Speaker 8 (06:28):
Yeah no, And I agree with Kyle in this state.
You know, it's funny because we didn't talk. We both
wore jerseys. I appreciate my guy, Kyle. But yet, you know,
back when offense was run by Greg Roman, you know,
they played the Chargers, and Chargers came out and pretty
much ran dime and nickel and found ways to limit Lamar.
And now with the new offense, what people wanted more

(06:49):
sophisticated with Monkin.

Speaker 3 (06:51):
You know, they don't run.

Speaker 8 (06:52):
The football, you know, you know against the Chiefs, And
so I agree in terms of like they just need
to play a full, complete game on offense. Whether it's hey,
you're number one and rushing, you don't run the ball.
You know, guys hold on to the football. You had
fumbles from you know, Zave Flowers a couple of years ago,
you had Mark Angels turn the bowl over, and then
you had costly interceptions and fumbles that turn into turnovers

(07:14):
from Lamar.

Speaker 3 (07:15):
So it's just overall, can.

Speaker 8 (07:16):
They play a complete game at the offense just a
week prior they ran for damn at three hundred yards
versus the Steelers and.

Speaker 3 (07:22):
Got that done.

Speaker 8 (07:23):
So still stick to what you do well, and let's
not try to be magical. You know, once you get
into the playoffs, it's like it's just winning football. We're
not trying to be heroes, Like, let's just do our job.
And I just feel like they need to get back
to or just get to doing that because they have
not done it yet.

Speaker 2 (07:36):
Yeah and Lamar, though, to be fair, he has gotten
better every single time he's been in the playoffs. His
touchdowns have gone up, his turnovers have gone down.

Speaker 4 (07:46):
But the wins just the hard thing.

Speaker 9 (07:48):
Everyone else is getting better too, That's what's hard.

Speaker 4 (07:50):
Everyone's getting better.

Speaker 5 (07:51):
Okay, so then how about that what's more likely here?

Speaker 2 (07:53):
Derrick Henry leading the league in rushing or Ravens going
to the Super Bowl not winning it, but just the appearance.

Speaker 1 (08:00):
Kyle, I would still say Henry. I mean, the AFC
is too good, and we've seen the Ravens movie over
and over. I hope it changes, but that we've also
seen the Derrick Henry movie over and over and it
pretty much never changes. I am marveling the fact that
this guy got this extension. Let's just take a second
to understand that Derrick Henry is thirty one years old.

(08:20):
He has touched the ball on the NFL level over
twenty five hundred times, not to mention college. Not to
mention if you've seen his high school stats. He had
about six thousand carries in high school. And he is
still not only in the league, they're extending him as
an investment in his future. He has always been what
happens when perfect genetics meet perfect work ethic. I still
think the fact that this guy could do this at

(08:41):
thirty one, I would bet on it ahead of the
Ravens getting to the super Bowl, and I wouldn't be
surprised at all if Henry does it next year. That's
the kind of genetic anomaly he is. He's getting towards
like Lebron Territory in terms of what he does in
his position at his age, at that productive production. It's
mind blowing, and I have such crazy respect for it.
I'll bet on Derrick Henry every time.

Speaker 7 (09:02):
Yeah, I'm saying, I think Derek, you know, if he can,
you know, does his best job at you know, carrying
the ball, not having any any turnovers, but also I
think he doesn't care. I don't think he cares as
far as like if he gets the ball or not.
He's very humble. He understands Lamar is, you know, needs
his touches. But he just wants the championship. You know,

(09:22):
this is year nine going in for him. I think,
and I think he just wants the championship. I think
he's he's had enough of the stats. He appreciates the stats.
He's gonna do his job, but I think ultimately he
wants to win that championship.

Speaker 8 (09:35):
Yeah, you got death taxes and Derek Henry running the
hell out of the football. There's no question that comes
down to that. I mean, the thing that's tough is
it's almost like playing against like Luca Dontas, Right, Luca
averages twenty eight points in his entire career.

Speaker 3 (09:49):
But is that truly.

Speaker 8 (09:50):
Going to hurt us and actually give us a chance?
It's like no, it's like, hey, let Luca do his thing, well, Lamar,
I mean, what derreck Henry. He's gonna run for a
ton of yards.

Speaker 3 (09:58):
But truly, is.

Speaker 8 (09:59):
It going to be a situation, Like I said, going
back to you, they need to play a complete football game.
So Derek Henr he might run a two stacks this
year in that case.

Speaker 1 (10:09):
But here's where we land with the Ravens. So Colleen
asked the question about Super Bowl appearance, not even win
or Derek Kenry leading league and rushing. All of us
bet on a thirty one year old dude to lead
the league in rushing over the Ravens merely winning the AFC.
That says our respect for Derek Henry, But don't tell
me he doesn't say something about a little skepticism for
the Baltimore Ravens, who have a two time MVP, a

(10:31):
Hall of Fame coach, a great roster, and still of
us are like, oh no, the old man will run
for two thousand yards before they even win the AFC.
That's where we're at as a show. Tell me I'm wrong.

Speaker 2 (10:39):
It feels more difficult though, for a team to make
a Super Bowl appearance than it is at this point
for a guy like Derrick Henry with his proven track
record to lea lead the league in rushing. I know
Saquon Barkley is there, and there's so much talent at
the running back position, but so much has to go
right for an entire team to actually get to that game,
to the pinnacle for a chance to even win it all.

(11:01):
So I think about that. But also so the fact
that Derrick Henry hasn't had a French fry in probably
like five years. He spends what two hundred and forty
thousand dollars on body maintenance that is working, so job
well done.

Speaker 5 (11:15):
What's it like to go up against the guys?

Speaker 8 (11:17):
But we just had a French fried discussion downstairs in
the green.

Speaker 1 (11:20):
Room, So that's what was that.

Speaker 2 (11:22):
I would love to hear more about that curly fries,
Like where what was this about?

Speaker 8 (11:28):
Just wa we were just ranking fries, you know, we
were talking about like in and out fries. McDonald fries
are trash and it actually uses but were potatoes. McDonald's
probably does it, but they're still the best fries, waffle
fries on his We had a whole talk about French
fries here, So I.

Speaker 4 (11:43):
Mean, I get it.

Speaker 2 (11:44):
I feel like everyone out there has a take on
French fries.

Speaker 5 (11:46):
Who does not love French fries but takes on Derrick
Henry going up against him?

Speaker 2 (11:51):
Kyle, I know you want to weigh in on French
fries too.

Speaker 1 (11:53):
At some point we'll get to you. Well, first of all,
I get tired of hearing the in and outs fries
or trash. We all know that. Stop ordering them. That's
that's how I do it. I just never need so
I don't know if you do. I retired from the fries.
I'm so sick of saying that they're bad supplement with
additional burger in shake. But the Derek Henry thing is

(12:13):
crazy because you guys know this. You're in the league
a long time. This should be the portion of Derrick
Henry's life and career where he's saying, screw it, give
me some fries, Let me get signed by some random
team and just kind of way out the last couple
of years of my career and run for seven hundred
yards and retire. He's supposed to be there now, and frankly,
he's earned that. Eat fries, get fat, have your yards

(12:34):
per carry plummet, and then retire. I wouldn't even blame you.
He's like, no, I'm working harder than ever. I still
want the super Bowl. You just don't see it from
a guy who's taking that many hits. It's awesome.

Speaker 9 (12:43):
Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 8 (12:44):
Yeah, and it's great the fact that you made that
Lebron comparison in terms of take care of his body.
One fry without not one fry earned him thirty million dollars. So, hey, man,
if that's what it is, that's a great sacrifice.

Speaker 7 (12:55):
I know, dedication, I mean his consistency, you know, just
him working out. I think that's what you know the greats,
do you know. I was talking to Aaron Donald the
other day. He was like, man, I love a player
that shows he puts in the work and it shows
on the field, you know. So if his consistency is
always there and he's working out, I mean, I'm rooting

(13:16):
for a thirty one year old running back that's putting
in the work he's doing and being consistent.

Speaker 4 (13:20):
He's a machine.

Speaker 3 (13:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (13:21):
Well the story started because when I was a rookie
in Green Bay. I remember I got on our team
plane with the bag McDonald's and our defensive end, Aaron
Campman took my bag of food and threw it off
the plane.

Speaker 9 (13:33):
Controlled boy in Green Bay, and he gave.

Speaker 3 (13:35):
Me a sandwich a sub. He said, you need to
eat healthy.

Speaker 8 (13:38):
You need And I'll tell you what when I started,
when I changed my diet, it gave me another eight years.

Speaker 3 (13:42):
In the NFL. So Aaron Cammon appreciate you.

Speaker 2 (13:44):
Wow, I never brought a French fry around again in public.

Speaker 5 (13:48):
In private though, where you saw?

Speaker 1 (13:51):
I mean, that's wild. Well when Campman threw that bag
off the plane, did BJ Roger go and get it?
He wasn't there yet.

Speaker 10 (13:59):
That's not right.

Speaker 8 (14:01):
I'm I'm on the plane looking.

Speaker 3 (14:05):
I can see my food on the runway.

Speaker 2 (14:08):
Oh, it's like.

Speaker 1 (14:10):
Seeing your bag.

Speaker 2 (14:11):
It didn't get loaded onto the plane. But French runs
might be worse. Honestly.

Speaker 1 (14:15):
You know what?

Speaker 2 (14:15):
We can ask Eric Armstead because he's going to join
us coming up on the show. Jaguars Defensive End and Walter.

Speaker 5 (14:21):
Payton Man of the Year winner coming up.

Speaker 2 (14:23):
We'll talk to him about all sorts of stuff.

Speaker 5 (14:28):
Welcome back to GMFB.

Speaker 1 (14:30):
So we're going for two.

Speaker 2 (14:31):
We're going to discuss two different NFL topics.

Speaker 4 (14:34):
First up, Commanders.

Speaker 2 (14:35):
Linebacker Frankie Luvu was a guest on the show yesterday
and made very clear he is not a fan of
keeping the toush push in the game.

Speaker 11 (14:44):
Yeah, I think they should have ben it, you know
what I mean. But I know the argument is gonna
be about, like, hey, well, you guys have to stop it.
Don't get us his short yards and whatnot. But it's
kind of like a cheek no play man. You got
Jordan might Lotta on the right. It's pretty much the
scrum in rugby. That's how I kind of look at it.
And we got to have a scrum too. And the
scrum is, you know, we have katus where we all

(15:05):
go at once. It's not like you hard camp and
this and that where you know, now you're getting us
with myself jumping over the pile thinking that they're about
to snap the boat.

Speaker 2 (15:15):
Oh all right, so we know that this is the
Eagles play.

Speaker 5 (15:20):
They had a seventy.

Speaker 2 (15:21):
Six percent success rate last season on the touch push
and they scored fifteen touchdowns with it. Fourteen by Jalen Hurts.
This is a copycat league, and yet no teams can
copy the cats. So do you think will make your
best case at this point for whether or not the
touch push should stay or be banned?

Speaker 8 (15:43):
Look, this must stay. I'm all for letting us stay.
We can't just keep making rules because we can't stop.
But we can go back into history, right, Nel Blunt,
he was known for suplex and receivers, but they were like,
you know, what nah, you cannot beat up our receivers.

Speaker 1 (15:57):
Let them go.

Speaker 8 (15:58):
So now I had to suffer with the five yard rule,
we can't touch the receiver.

Speaker 9 (16:02):
You got Deacon Jones with the head.

Speaker 8 (16:03):
Slat guys like I'm getting headaches, like it's football.

Speaker 1 (16:06):
Now.

Speaker 8 (16:06):
Here's the worst one they took away was Tony Dempse.
He had a half of a foot and he was
known for wearing that shoe that it was like it
was pretty much like a sledgehammer, and he broke the record, right,
broke the record way way back when, and all of
a sudden tech shram. The GM for the Cowboys was like,
we coulnot have this happen.

Speaker 9 (16:23):
So now this is actually a rule.

Speaker 3 (16:24):
There is a rule everyone.

Speaker 8 (16:26):
Rule Section five Brew five, Section four, Article three states
kicking shoes must not be modified. Right, even if you
have a half foot, you have to have a regular shoe.

Speaker 3 (16:36):
To kick the football.

Speaker 8 (16:37):
So if you cannot stop it, my goodness, Like you cannot.

Speaker 3 (16:40):
Change the rule.

Speaker 8 (16:41):
I'm all for the touchboards in the fact that Lupie
has to see this twice a year, so I get it.
You're saying he was born with a half of a
foot and he wore a shoe that was and booted it.
He broke the record, and then the cowboys will live it.
They were like, you know, he can't do this, he
cannot do this.

Speaker 1 (16:57):
Bring up a picture. We can find it and by
the end of the segment find a picture.

Speaker 9 (17:01):
What a challenge, right right, I'm weird.

Speaker 1 (17:04):
I'm with Will.

Speaker 7 (17:05):
I don't think it should be a band. I think
we should adapt. I think, you know, with Frankie, what
he said yesterday made a lot of sense and I
didn't even think about it. Where you know, when it
comes to the scrum in rugby, they both have a
cadence and they get off at the same time, you know, so,
but when you on offense, you know, you have cadence,
you have people motioning, you can do all these things

(17:27):
to kind of trick the defense and get them to jump.
And that's why you've seen Frankie jump over the pile,
you know, twenty six times or whatever, and you know, yeah,
so for him to see that play, I know he
hates it, but I'm you know, I play defense. I'm like, man,
we just got to figure out like what makes them
successful and stop it. So if it's loading up the
left side versus malata or something like, let's figure out

(17:49):
how we can stop this play.

Speaker 1 (17:51):
All right, Kyle, You're part of the reason I respect
Luvu is that he actually was honest about it. It's like,
I think they should ban it, and I think there's
a lot of defensive guys who want it banned, but
don't want to come out and admit that they want
banned because then they'll look soft or blah blah blah
lulah doesn't give a damn. Because that guy right there
look like he gives a damn about convention or what

(18:11):
people think about it. I would ask I would go
back to you, Brock, like, as a defensive tackle, a
guy ostensibly if you were playing now would be going
against this. You don't think it's dirty pool, You don't
think it's all the things that people say about it,
specifically because you've played the position that we've been right
in the middle of it, you don't think they should
get rid of it.

Speaker 7 (18:28):
No, I definitely think there are advantages to the offense.
But at the same time, I feel like, you know, defensively,
we got to keep them from getting to third and
one or fourth and one or whatever. You know, that's
our job. Defensively. So I'm all about man, you know, challenge,
you know, challenge yourself. So I'm willing to go against
the play and try to stop it rather than ban

(18:49):
it and eliminate it because I'm scared of the play.

Speaker 1 (18:52):
I respect it, and I've talked about this for a
long time, but here's just my last summation. This is
probably the last time we get to talk about this
before the vote. The reasons that tush push should allegedly
be banned, whether it comes from educator, people with the league,
or just someone on Twitter, a number one safety concern.
I don't buy it. I've never bought it. I think
that's screaming safety into a crowded theater in twenty twenty

(19:13):
five and hoping it works. I don't think this is
a collision play. I think a standard inside handoff is
more of a safety concern than the tush push rule.
Number two, it's not football. It's exactly football. Your side
pushes are side pushes who can push harder. This is
Princeton Rutgers in eighteen sixty nine. This is the roots

(19:35):
of football. And by the way, don't complain as a
fan that you miss physicality in football. That you miss
old school football and then start whining when you get
a twenty two man royal rumble at the goal line.
It's awesome. Rule number three, or rather complaint number three.
It just can't be stopped. No, it can't be stopped

(19:57):
by your team. The Eagles can't be stopped. Did you
watch the AFC title game? The Buffalo Bills, who have
a bigger quarterback than the Eagles, were stopped twice. My friends,
because the defense was prepared, schooled up, and able. It
can be stopped. It just can't be stopped by your team.
And I would just say this, if this boat comes

(20:19):
down and the tush push is banned, I believe you
will be giving the Philadelphia Eagles something even more dangerous
than the tush push, which is a cause, a motivation,
and identity. If you make the tush push a martyr,
it's like saying, when you strike me down, I will
become more possible than you can, more powerful you can

(20:39):
possibly imagine. Do you think the Eagles are gonna struggle
on the goal line. They have Saquon, they have aj Dillon,
they have the best offensive line. Saquon's gonna have forty
touchdowns next year and every single time. They're gonna go
in the end zone and they're gonna pretend to do
the tush push as a celebration to mock all of
the people who took it from him. You take this away,
it's rock and roll. This is saying, don't swivel your

(21:00):
hips on camera. They will do it, and they will
be rock stars and have something taken from them a cause,
which is something Nick Sirianni will take and channel more
powerful leaven than the Toushbush. Either way, I think the
Eagles win this week.

Speaker 8 (21:14):
Yeah, and I'm going to back you on that, just
in terms of, like you said, close to the line
of scrimmage like there is. It's not like busting a
wedge right where you're coming from forty yards deep. And
I will tell I'll say this on record and you
can back me up on this bar.

Speaker 9 (21:28):
The most dangerous playing football is field goal protection.

Speaker 8 (21:31):
They just literally sit there with the arms out and
they get lit up defensive alignement. They just take a chance.
You can take a shot at these guys. Guys have
fallen over twisting knees all over the place. So if
they want to compare the Toushbush, go watch field goal protection.
Really see what goes on there like that is I
had a chance, Well, I got to fly in, I
got to jump over, I got to do all these
crazy things. So in comparison, I don't really see much

(21:52):
of a difference in terms of I guess, player safety
when it comes to that.

Speaker 2 (21:56):
I mean, I also think about the fact that so
many rules cater to offenses in the NFL, So you know,
this one would be the defense. But still, even if
you take away the push push, Jalen Hurts is still
going to have success in the quarterback sneak. So I mean,
you're right, Kyle, they win either way way. I mean,
it's just a modern night quarterback.

Speaker 3 (22:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (22:19):
All right, let's go to our second topic. We have Jaguars.

Speaker 2 (22:22):
Quarterback Trevor Lawrence getting some reps with his newest teammate,
the second overall pick in this year's draft, wide receiver
slash cornerback Travis Hunter. Lawrence is impressed with the twenty
two year olds conditioning too.

Speaker 10 (22:36):
Got a lot of juice, he can he can run
all day, a lot of energy.

Speaker 1 (22:39):
I love it.

Speaker 10 (22:40):
Good energy, always just dapping guys up, just bringing juice
every day. And like I said, high motor can just go.
It's like a kid just runs around all day. He
doesn't get tired, it seems like, so you can't have
enough of that. And then as far as just talent,
I mean kind of speaks for his self, ball skills,
run after the catch, He's very explosive. She didn't realize
how explosive he was in and out of cuts. You know,
he's he's impressive to watch and we've gotten to connect

(23:02):
a couple times's so only gonna keep getting better and better.
You know, we've only worked together for a couple of
days now, so we got some time to really dial
in on the details.

Speaker 2 (23:09):
He's got the just Trevor Lawrence loves him so AFC South.

Speaker 5 (23:12):
Rookie who will make a bigger impact this.

Speaker 2 (23:15):
Season Travis Hunter or the number one overall pick Titans
quarterback cam Ward.

Speaker 7 (23:22):
You know this is a trap question, is traffic western?
It's crazy, But I'm looking forward to to cam Ward.
You know, I want to see the change in Tennessee.
I want to see, you know, Tennessee get in that
contingency in the a FC South. You know, you know
I watched the Texans a lot, you know, being from
Houston and you know, Tennessee versus versus Houston game.

Speaker 1 (23:44):
Yeah, it's not the best.

Speaker 7 (23:46):
Thing to watch on TV at twelve o'clock, but you know,
so I definitely want to see Tennessee to make the
change in cam warden cam Ward do his thing because
he hasn't been talked about since he got drafted. We've
been talking about Shador for the last yeah, a couple
of couple of weeks.

Speaker 5 (24:00):
Now it's not gonna change.

Speaker 4 (24:01):
It's not gonna change.

Speaker 7 (24:02):
But so I'm looking forward to definitely Cam Moore going
out there and doing this thing and making, you know,
making some plays as a rookie.

Speaker 8 (24:09):
Yeah, cam kim Ward is definitely you know, the easy
ends for quarterback. But I'm gonna say Travis Hunter. I
played in Jacksonville. You know, we weren't that good. Also,
the you know, the media coverage isn't great down there,
not really a lot of attention. But when Travis Hunter,
you're gonna get all kinds of media attention. They're gonna
track every single rep on offense, every single rep on defense.

Speaker 9 (24:29):
He might have one catch and maybe one PVU.

Speaker 8 (24:31):
And they're gonna be there watching every single thing he does.

Speaker 3 (24:33):
In this city. This is this is what they needed.

Speaker 8 (24:35):
This is why, this is why Jacksonville went up and
traded to go get this man for all those right reasons.
They're gonna be people in the seats. People are gonna
pay tickets to a Jacksonville game just to watch this guy.
He's gonna be slebs in the sideline to watch him.
So I think, just overall, just for that whole division
in the NFL, Travis He's gonna make the bigger impact.

Speaker 1 (24:54):
Kyle Massive, massive Travis Hunter fan. I think, like we all,
I love Travis Hunter. Yet this question is so insulting
to cam Ward and so disrespect It just keeps piling
and piling. We're talking about a quarterback, a starting quarterback
in the NFL. Travis Hunter is cool. It's very different,
very fresh. I've talked about it a lot, but my god,

(25:16):
it's a quarterback. I understand. It's on the Titans, all right,
I get it, and they're supposed to be apparently not
a member of the NFL anymore. And he doesn't get
any primetime games and the closest he gets is Week one.
He gets to play at four h five Eastern. I
also like when we talk about cam Ward on the show,
we show almost exclusively his college highlights. It's like we're
trying to will him to not be on the Titans,

(25:37):
like maybe we could be on a different team. We
showed Travis Hunter and his Jaguars jersey stretching out. We're
showing year old highlights from Miami just to completely disavow
the Titans. Guys. He matters, He's good, Travis Hunter is
novel and fun and talented. This is the number one
bleeping pick in the draft. I'm still shocked and relieved

(25:57):
that we go back to the draft. When Commissioner Goodell
announced the pick, he didn't come out and say, with
the number one pick in the twenty twenty five NFL Draft,
the Tennessee Titans like Cam Sanders, I mean war it
was almost there. Almost. Thank god he didn't, And I
love cam Ward even if no one else does.

Speaker 2 (26:13):
Listen, I would argue this is actually a good thing
for cam Ward because so many times number one overall pick,
especially if it's a quarterback, which is usually the case,
comes in with such high expectations and everyone expects him
to come out on fire because that was his draft slot,
which he has no control over whatsoever. Now Cam Ward
comes in and yeah, people aren't really talking about him.

(26:34):
That's good because if he does light things up in Tennessee,
then all of a sudden.

Speaker 5 (26:39):
He proves everyone wrong.

Speaker 2 (26:40):
He feels better, the Titans feel better, and then people
who are on the train, like you, Kyle early On,
are like, see, I told you so. I feel like
this is actually a great situation for cam Ward Coleen.

Speaker 1 (26:51):
I like it. I have it on good authority. I
was texting with Scott Hansen on red Zone. They're not
allowed to go to Titans games. It's blocked off. He'll
go to it. There is not even a cam Ward
camera and his name is literally cam Like. They won't
ever ever go. I don't get a good season, we
won't see it.

Speaker 8 (27:10):
Can they at least eat hot chicken while they watch
the games?

Speaker 3 (27:12):
Is that is that allowed?

Speaker 1 (27:14):
Sure? The chicken is more famous than the quarterback? Like it.
It's unbelievable. We can't the fact that we're talking about
them right now. Everyone's furious, like, pull the plug on
everything because we're not supposed to talk cam Ward. Let's
get back to somebody else.

Speaker 12 (27:29):
And even though I'm being honored tonight, I don't feel
that tonight is about me or organization. Tonight is about
all of you in this room, right here, and everyone
watching at home.

Speaker 4 (27:44):
We live in a world.

Speaker 12 (27:46):
That constantly tries to divide us, whether that's politically, economically, racially,
sexual orientation, that we're constantly being divided. But I believe
in humanity. I believe that we're all I believe that

(28:14):
we're all more alike than we are different. And I
believe that all of us have the power to be
the change that we want to see in our society.
And no actor is too big and no actors too small.
But I just encourage you to try to be a
blessing in someone else's life and see how that changes
your life. Let's define success by new metric, not by

(28:37):
the things that we acquire, but by how many people
we positively impact. And this is a night that I'll
never never forget. And I thank you, and I appreciate you,
and have a good night.

Speaker 2 (28:49):
What a beautiful speech by Eric Armstead when he won
the Walter Payton NFL Man of the Year award back
in February. We're going to welcome back into the show
defensive end for the Jags.

Speaker 1 (29:00):
Welcome, welcome me.

Speaker 4 (29:05):
I know we love it.

Speaker 5 (29:06):
Thank you more of that please.

Speaker 2 (29:07):
That was so genuine and as Will noted when we
were watching it, no script, so just off the cup
and just so genuine. I really do wish that more
people thought and had these ideals like you, because You're correct,
I think that we are all more alike than we
are different. You were so deserving of this award and

(29:28):
all of the work that you do, and you do
so much in the community. What's the one thing that
you are most proud of?

Speaker 12 (29:35):
The thing I'm most proud of probably has to be
just who I represent. I represent a whole host of
people that poured so much into my life, and that's
the reason I'm at where I'm at to this day.
My family, you know, my city where I'm from, Sacramento.
You know, teams and coaches and players that I've had

(29:57):
the opportunity to play with, other great men that I've
been able to be around and learn from. And you know,
so now it's my turn to continue that. Take all
that I've learned, you know, my platform, my resources, and
try to help the next generation of young people in
our society.

Speaker 4 (30:17):
And I love doing that. And We've got a lot
more work to do.

Speaker 12 (30:21):
But I'm excited and eager to do that work and
be that change.

Speaker 1 (30:27):
Well, you were doing work at the draft too, because
the fact that you're the Rainning Walter Payton Man of
the Year, that means that you announced that your team's
first round draft pick, which of course was the Jags,
not only taking Travis Hunter but trading up. It was
very dramatic. Can you take us through that, Eric, what
it was like for you backstage hearing the trade news,
making the pictures. Take us all through it at story time.

(30:49):
I love this stuff.

Speaker 4 (30:50):
It was a lot of fun.

Speaker 12 (30:52):
It was a historic night, you know, first time a
player was drafted with two positions and being a part
of that process being backstage, you know, me thinking, oh,
at pick five and I got a little time to prepare,
I'm going over my note cards, you know, trying to
make sure I don't mess nothing up. And then they
come in and be like, hey, there's a trade been made.

Speaker 1 (31:13):
You guys are up.

Speaker 12 (31:14):
And as soon as the trade happened, everyone knew and
I knew who were drafting, and you know that was
the best player in the draft, Travis Hunter, and.

Speaker 4 (31:22):
Was just really excited, really a static to you.

Speaker 12 (31:25):
Know, find out that we were drafting him, and he's
a player that you know, I saw him since he
was in high school, you know, Moss and kids, and
and kind of followed his his career and his journey.
And you know, always as NFL players were always keeping
tabs on, you know, the next young great players coming up.
And to be a teammate of his and now it's

(31:46):
gonna be awesome experience. And I think he's going to
add a lot to our team. And you know, I
shared a little bit of the back back, behind the
scenes on my Instagram and my TikTok about you know
what it was kind of being backstage in that whole process.
But it was a lot of fun. Definitely glad I
had the opportunity to be part of it.

Speaker 3 (32:05):
Eric will Blackman here, what's happening?

Speaker 4 (32:08):
What's something man?

Speaker 1 (32:09):
Yo?

Speaker 8 (32:09):
So I got a Jacksonville connection. One I played for
the Jags and the other one is I actually played
against your head coach Leam Cohen in high school.

Speaker 3 (32:18):
Yes, he did throw a touchdown pass on me. So
I got.

Speaker 8 (32:22):
A two part question. One playing in Jacksonville, have you
been to Taco lose? Because we talked about food early
and gaining weight and The second part is there's also
been a lot of talk about Travis Hunter being a
two way player. That could mean a lot of snaps
over seventeen games. From a defenders point of view, how
would you like to see him being used?

Speaker 12 (32:39):
Yeah, definitely been a Taco lou That was one of
the first spots I hit out here in Jacksonville. I'm
definitely definitely a foodie myself, So I got.

Speaker 4 (32:47):
A couple of news spots.

Speaker 12 (32:49):
Okay, so next time you're next time you're in town,
hit me up for sure and we can go get
something to eat. But ins of in terms of Travis,
I think, you know, it's this we're in rare air.
You know that he's a player who would have been
a first round pick at two different positions were back
and wide receivers. So you know, I really feel like
it's it's a can't miss, you know. Uh, Coach Liam

(33:11):
is going to have his plan for him. I think
the plan right now is, you know, to start him
off on the offense, let him get get adjusted, and
then bring him into the defensive fold as we as
we can get going. So I think they have a
great plan for him, and you know, I think we're
all excited just to see the type of impact he
can have.

Speaker 1 (33:30):
Man, what's the deal, what's the deal? This is?

Speaker 4 (33:32):
This is my guy.

Speaker 7 (33:33):
People don't know and man way back and he worked
out with BJ and things like that. But uh, this afternoon,
I hear you'll be taking up a programming for NFL Network.

Speaker 1 (33:43):
What do you have?

Speaker 7 (33:44):
What do you what do you have in store for
us this evening?

Speaker 4 (33:46):
Man?

Speaker 12 (33:46):
Yeah, they they hit me with the opportunity to take
over NFL Network and uh the Player's Choice program. So
I get to pick all the programming uh later for today,
which was really cool. And you know, so we're gonna
have We're gonna have some bangers. You know, we're gonna have.
We're gonna have a football life of Sean Taylor, who

(34:07):
was my favorite player growing up, really made really made
football cool and fun for me when he came out
there with the with the rainbow visor and the and
the tape fingers and catch catch the ball at the
air and hits and hit sticking people. So we're gonna
learn a little bit more about Sean Taylor. Then we're
gonna have some of my games on there, some of

(34:28):
my best games which were which happened to be, you know,
in the biggest moments of the NFL winn or go home.
You know, that's when I played my best football. So
we're gonna have some of those games on there too,
and we've got a great, great lineup of programming for
you guys, so make sure you're tuning in the NFL
network all day.

Speaker 2 (34:46):
Was it difficult to choose the moments for you?

Speaker 5 (34:49):
Like which ones?

Speaker 1 (34:50):
Did?

Speaker 5 (34:50):
You have a whole list and you needed to narrow
it down?

Speaker 4 (34:53):
Uh, there was.

Speaker 12 (34:53):
Something that stick out for me. I had to decipher
through a couple of them. But you know, I think
I picked, you know, the most the best ones for me,
most memorable. Like I said, you know, there's nothing like
NFL playoff football when everything is on the line, and
you know that's that's when those moments for me always

(35:16):
will stick out when I look back, you know, at
my career. So you know, those are some of the
things I wanted to highlight since I had the chance
to choose some of the programming.

Speaker 4 (35:25):
So it's gonna be fun.

Speaker 8 (35:26):
Eric, you mentioned you mentioned your foodie so earlier this
year you competed on The Great American Bacon Show, which
is a spin off off of the Greatest British bake Off.
How nervous were you trying to compete against Twinny Gonzales
and DK metcalf.

Speaker 12 (35:41):
That that whole experience was a lot of fun. I
got brought onto the show last minute. I was a
little late add on, but they let me in there
and I won the whole thing, and I just got
better each child. I got better, better and better each challenge.

Speaker 4 (35:56):
You can see my Muhammad Ali cake right there. That's what.

Speaker 12 (35:59):
That's what, that's what. That's what got me. The victory
brought brought it home in the end. But it was
an amazing experience hanging out with uh, Prue and Paul
and the whole crew out there in London shooting that
show was a lot of fun. DK and Tony did
did a great job as well too, But competing against
him was a lot of fun. But you know, I

(36:20):
had to bring bring the trophy back to my crib,
so we got that done.

Speaker 1 (36:25):
It's incredible, dude. I love the cake, Love Paul Hollywood.
The handshake is just all class. I have to you
mentioned Sacramento and I know that you were a kid
in the two thousands. It's good morning football, but we
love hoop here. Who is your favorite all time Sacramento King?

Speaker 3 (36:42):
Like the beam?

Speaker 12 (36:43):
My favorite all time Sacramento King. Uh, I'm gonna go
Bobby Jackson. Bobby Jackson, I love Bobby What.

Speaker 4 (36:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 12 (36:55):
For a lot of people that don't know, my dad
is a basketball trainer, So I grew up in the
in the basketball gym, always around his guys. And Bobby
Jackson was a guy who came in uh summer after summer,
so I got to spend a lot of time with
him growing up, watching his work ethic, seeing him work out,
seeing him train, and I wasn't around.

Speaker 4 (37:14):
A lot of pros. Another one Matt Barnes.

Speaker 12 (37:16):
He played for the Kings for a little bit, but
he's you know, a little more known for being a warrior.
But Matt Barnes as well too, growing up around him
in the gym with my dad. You know, That's where
I built up a lot of my work ethic was,
you know, my dad going to the gym at six
am to train those guys. And even though when I
was a little kid, I would always be mad if

(37:36):
he didn't wake me up, or I would get up
on my own to go and be around them and
It's a big reason where I'm at where I'm at now,
because I felt like I could do it, because I
saw examples of people doing this. So Bobby Jackson is
my favorite King player of that era.

Speaker 1 (37:53):
Such a cool answer. I thought maybe coming off the cake,
you would have said white chocolate.

Speaker 12 (38:04):
I saw what you did there. I saw what you
did that Jason, Jason Williams was called two though he
was nice.

Speaker 2 (38:10):
No, Doc, Well, Eric, you've been fantastic. We were running
out of time.

Speaker 5 (38:16):
We have so many questions. We would love to ask
you more. Shout out to Taco Lou.

Speaker 2 (38:21):
I'm sure that that spot. I mean I had one
in college as well. I'm sure the one in Jacksonville
was just like the one in West Philadelphia.

Speaker 5 (38:29):
Eric Arms said, joining us.

Speaker 2 (38:31):
Here, we cannot wait to see your programming here on
NFL Network two pm Eastern.

Speaker 5 (38:35):
Make sure that you guys check that out. We'll be
watching too.

Speaker 2 (38:38):
We'll be watching all off season long. At your progression,
we'll see a training camp. Thanks again for joining us,
Eric Arms said on the program, thank you, my friend.

Speaker 12 (38:48):
Appreciate you guys having me good. Great to see all
you guys,
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