August 13, 2024 • 37 mins
Hour One of the Good Morning Football Podcast begins with hosts Jamie Erdahl, Kyle Brandt, Peter Schrager, and Akbar Gbajabiamila discussing the latest drama with the New York Jets - what's happened with the Jets and Hasson Reddick? Then the panel answers if Brandon Aiyuk has a better chance to suit up for the 49ers or Steelers in week-1. Later, Peter puts the spotlight on an X-Factor who's a part of the San Francisco 49ers organization that could play a big part in what happens during this NFL season.
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
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Speaker 4 (00:32):
I'm Jamie Heart.
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Speaker 4 (00:35):
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Speaker 3 (00:36):
There's wearing the swagged out new GMFB logo T shirt,
Kyle Brandt. Both of those guys are in New York City.
Very nice, gentlemen.
Speaker 5 (00:45):
Hey, what size is that?
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Kyle?
Speaker 4 (00:46):
Hey?
Speaker 6 (00:48):
Extra medium?
Speaker 1 (00:49):
As always, the T shirt jokes always work on me,
and you know it always works on the air.
Speaker 6 (00:55):
Oh, a big old New York Jets story.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
People just flock to it, hate it, love it doesn't matter.
Speaker 6 (01:01):
We're here in New York.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Peter, how would you describe the vibe out on the
street for Hassan Reddick?
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Right now, Jets fans are thrilled. How this is gone.
This is just what they wanted, Jamie. Jets fans all
day texting me yesterday, what do you got on?
Speaker 6 (01:13):
Reddick?
Speaker 2 (01:13):
I said, save it for tomorrow's show. You'll have to
watch there. So we're going to give that little tease, and.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
We shall not make them wait a second longer. Peter
and Kyle and Achbar are very good. The Jets here
we go are the lead block. They acquired Hassan Reddick
in an off season move from the Eagles.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
Now he's been holding out.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
From the team because of a contract discute that frankly
was well known when the trade occurred. Reddick took things
to the next level. He hasn't been at mini camp,
he hasn't been at training camp, and then yesterday to
the New York Jets. He requested a trade, but the
Jets said, no, we're good, You're staying here. Here's the
Jets official statement. We have informed Hassan that we will
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not trade him. He's expected to be here with his
teammates and he will continue to be fined per the
CBA if he.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
Does not report.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
Since the trade discussions back in March, we have been clear, direct,
and consistent.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
With the position.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
Our focus will remain on the guys we have here
as we prepare for the regular season. It sounds like parenting.
We have been clear, direct, and consistent with our messaging.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
So in an off season of.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
Positivity surrounding the New York Jets man, this Hassan Redick,
This is uncomfortable, Peter, where do you take us?
Speaker 4 (02:23):
First?
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Yeah, look, when the Jets traded for Hassan Redick, Therasan
Reddick made it pretty obvious and clear that he wanted
one of those huge contract extensions.
Speaker 6 (02:34):
The Eagles weren't willing to give it.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
The Jets got him, I would say, for sixty cents
on the dollar or conditional third round pick.
Speaker 6 (02:40):
And I think the assumption anytime.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
You trade for a guy who's asking for a trade
from somewhere else, that deal is locked up and done
before you even see him walk in the building. But
this is a guy who did not get that situation.
The Jets took a risk. They both took a little
bit of a risk and leap of faith. If you will,
take a look at Hassan Reddick's career up until this point.
He has never been that guy that signed the mega
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free agent deal, the long term deal Cardinals is a rookie,
got the rookie money, then went to the Carolina Panthers
with Matt you know where Matt Rule was for a
year for whose college coach. Then he goes to the
Eagles for two years. These are standout seasons. He gets
traded to the Jets, and I think everyone assumes. He
even does a press conference in April where he talks
about how excited he is to be a Jets.
Speaker 6 (03:23):
Jets figure they get.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
It done too, But then it never got done, whether
it wasn't offer whatever, or whether Reddick wanted more money
than the Jets did offer installed. And you know, usually
when you pass a physical and you sign, you know,
and the deals done and you do the press conference,
it is a formality like this is going to be
a new deal. And here's some wrinkles in this thing
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that you probably need to know, Hassan. Reddick's agent is
a guy named Tory Dandy. Tory's been doing this for
a long time. Tory represents Deebo Samuel, he represents AJ Brown.
A lot of these guys go to the wire with
contract stuff and the AJ Brown deal.
Speaker 6 (03:59):
If you remember, we lauded Howie.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Roseman for days because during the draft, not only did
he trade for AJ Brown, but he worked with Tory
Dandy to get the new contract done before that trade
was executed. So how we in that situation got a
pat in the back because yet you not only got
aj Brown, but you also put that contract to bed
and he can't do.
Speaker 6 (04:21):
A whole out like he is an Eagle.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
The Jets do the trade, but they didn't put the
contract to bed. They didn't get it done. Now here
is where you're in a jam. He demanded a trade
from Philadelphia. He got that trade. Now he's demanding a
trade from the Jets. What team is going to knock
down the door and say, okay, well, we didn't want
him then in April we didn't want him. That was
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you know, we know the Eagles were dangling him, but
we didn't want him. But now that it's August and
he wants that mega contract deal and our salary cat
situation is pretty firm, and we've got our guys and
we've drafted our Now.
Speaker 6 (04:57):
We are going to sign him to that major deal.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
It doesn't make This is the equivalent of the Giants
traded for Brian Burns, which they did and didn't have
the numbers banged out beforehand. This is bad on both sides,
and I think on both sides they did a leap
of faith here where like it'll get done.
Speaker 6 (05:13):
But as we head towards the now third week.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Of August coming up and the second preseason games.
Speaker 6 (05:21):
Yeah, no, it's not done.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
And I don't think there's gonna be any movement unless
one of the other side's budgets.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Well, I think Hassan Reddick wants there to be movement.
Hassan Redick just wants to be loved. You know, you
just showed the journey, you know, bad teams, the Panthers,
Cardinals against the Egos, Like no one wants to love him.
He's twenty seven dresses like he is always the bridesmaid.
And so he's like, come on, let's get married. I'm
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coming to New York City, Let's win a Super Bowl.
I'm ready, I'm great, I'm in my prime. And the
Jets are like, let's date for a while, like before
we jump. He's like, I've already been dating. I've been
left at the altar. I don't want to do this.
So what happens when when head buddy and lovers are
getting in this spat in public, you start posturing and
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you post things on your Instagram or you start to
show off, like you change your relationship status.
Speaker 6 (06:11):
This is an amazing thing for me. This is what
happened yesterday.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
So Ian Rapperporre tweets the report that tweet this, check
us out because we're gonna do timestamps and everything.
Speaker 6 (06:20):
Rap Sheet tweets out.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
That Hassan rectamand in a trade eleven thirty five Eastern time. Okay,
so that's out. Boom, it's in the public. Everybody's chewing
on it. The Jet statement, show that and look at
this eleven thirty five Eastern The Jets statement comes out
twelve oh seven easterns. That's twenty nine twenty five, thirty
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two minutes later. Now, mind you, they put it on
the letterhead the fonds. They got to run that through
several different departments, the GM, the head coach, the social
media person that wasn't banged out on the memo app
of your iPhone and screencap.
Speaker 6 (06:56):
That thirty two minutes. Like either they did that in.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
An emotional response blah blah blah blah blah, or they
had that sucker locked because.
Speaker 6 (07:03):
They knew this was coming and.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
This has been sitting in the draft folder and they
said release the hounds. In thirty two minutes. They had
that eloquent and that passionate of a response, and I
think they knew it was coming because they know this
is going nowhere.
Speaker 6 (07:17):
I have to say the Jets stories.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
I'm loath to just beat up on the Jets because
everyone does it. Say well, Jets, it's nonsense. I hate
that crap. But my god, like Joe Douglas the GM,
you worked at Philly, You're Rosman's guy. So I would
think when the trade from the Eagles happened, there's a
full disclosure of FYI, Joe, you know Hassan wants to
be paid. Oh yeah, yeah, we know, we know, we know,
(07:41):
And now just nothing, no deal. This is akin to
right now. During this segment, the Niners trade Brandon Ayuk
to the Steelers and the Steelers are.
Speaker 6 (07:50):
Like, yeah, but no new deal. What are you doing
with me?
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Then I just go from having a yellow sweatshirt and
a red one. I'm just standing on your sideline now.
So the fact that the deal wasn't there or they said, Hassan, yeah,
maybe we'll get to it, it's a breakdown. It's not
supposed to to happen. And I still don't think this
is over.
Speaker 6 (08:06):
And close knockbar. I want to hear your thoughts.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Peer are saying, well, it's so close to the season,
who's going to make a deal for them. Now people
are like, he should go to Chicago, and I understand
it's late and the salary cap is set.
Speaker 6 (08:16):
He is a sexy ass player. Great, there are two players.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
In the NFL who have double digit sacks four seasons
in a row. It's Miles Garrett, It's Hassan Reddick.
Speaker 6 (08:25):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
That's the list, Not TJ. Watt, Michael Parsons. This is
a game, roster changing player for which someone might be like,
can we throw some money together right now and get
him here and win a Super Bowl?
Speaker 6 (08:35):
Now.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
I would not be surprised if the Jets do trade him,
because I think there will be a suitor.
Speaker 6 (08:39):
But it should not have come to this. Have the
deal ready, have the ring ready?
Speaker 1 (08:43):
You knew he was looking to be in a relationship,
no more bridesman, it should have been ready.
Speaker 5 (08:47):
Yeah. I think to that.
Speaker 7 (08:49):
You know, in a relationship, you know there's always something
that somebody's judging or looking at. When I look at
Hassan Reddick, I think a lot of this has to do.
And I know people probably won't say this, but for me,
as a d lineman, as an edge guy, I'm looking
at this like, why are they hating on him, especially
because we're looking at the second most important player on
the Jets. You have Aaron Rodgers and then you have
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Hasan Redding. That type of production you can't just go
find anywhere out on the street. This dude is a baller.
Watch him, watch a film. He changes the game. I mean,
I don't understand why. But the one thing that stands
out is this is a guy that's six ' one
two and forty pounds. And it's very easy for front
office guys, people who just sit up there and go,
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oh yeah, yeah, he's productive. But he's a smaller guy
and look at his numbers. His numbers are impressive. Like,
I'm heated. You probably hear the energy in my voice
because this is major disrespect. You know why the Jets
can't ever have anything nice because they don't know how
to appreciate anything. And this type of stuff, this is
the type of stuff that gives you bad juju on
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the team, Like you can't just disrespect Hassan Redding after
the work he's put in. And I had our guy
Lakwan pull up the numbers and I started looking. I'm
going look at the guys out there who were making
sevent team fifteen million dollars. Bryce Huff twenty three sacks
or excuse me, seventeen sacks in twenty three games. Hassan
Reddick fifty point five sacks and sixty one games. These
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guys Harold Landry making seventeen million dollars. You mean to
tell me that you are putting this guy in the
same caliber with Harold Landry. And no disrespect to these guys,
but they just haven't produced the same way, same thing
with Alex Heismith. How are we not paying him? The
dude is a twenty five twenty seven thirty million dollar
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type player.
Speaker 5 (10:35):
Pay him. I don't understand.
Speaker 7 (10:37):
They have the ability to make some cap adjustments, to
do some stuff to make it smart.
Speaker 6 (10:41):
You have all the.
Speaker 7 (10:42):
Guys who I can't calculate like that, all right, I
don't do math like that, but they know how to
do math. You guys have somebody in the front office
who knows math. Furthermore, you talked about Joe Douglass. Joe
Douglas came from Philly. He understands what he saw, what
he did in Philly. He understands it. So why wouldn't
you pay him? I don't understand why you would bring
a guy in this high caliber and go, you know what,
I'm not gonna pay him. It's like bringing in a
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Ferrah and then talking about I don't have gas money,
I don't have name. Why the heck did you buy
the car?
Speaker 6 (11:09):
Then? Why would you bring it in?
Speaker 7 (11:11):
This pisses me off, Like I'm legit pissed for this dude.
Speaker 5 (11:14):
I hurt for him because I know it.
Speaker 7 (11:17):
Like at thirty years old, he understands there's a clock
on him as well. So this is the opportunity for
him to go out there and get paid. And they
messing with this dude. Man, the Jets, y'all gonna get
something for that. Y'all ain't right, And you guys know it.
You know I'm telling the truth. I'm sorry I.
Speaker 4 (11:33):
Putting unleaded in it. That's exactly right, right.
Speaker 5 (11:36):
You don't put eighty seven exactly.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
So to Akbar's point, you know he's looking at these guys.
It's kind of weird names to group them together. I
see what you're doing, which is since in the last
couple of years you got a guy like Bryce Hawe
for Alex Heismith in the twenties, like the Sacks like oh,
they've had twenty.
Speaker 4 (11:51):
This guy's had.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
Fifty sacks in the city. So the fact that they
are on the same list together. But the irony of
the Bryce hoff thing is that that he went to
Philadelphia like that. That's what the Jets were giving up.
They understand what they were doing there. Peter, I ask you,
this is a Joe Douglas question. Potentially he's had a
couple of players in the last couple of years in
his reign that have reportedly requested trades and it's been fulfilled.
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Do you think Hassan Reddick is saying I want to
be like Jamal Adams, Denzel Mims, like any of these
guys who said I want out no matter what time
it was on the clock. And Joe Douglas now feels
like I have to move this because, to up Oar's point,
the Jets had very good feelings coming into this, like
the Aaron Rodgers dancing and everyone's feeling so great.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
About him in the AFC East.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
This is not good for the Jets and the chemistry,
the court of public opinion, the chemistry that's in.
Speaker 4 (12:41):
The locker room.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Well, it's been the poison pill of all summer that
no one's talking about like anytime Joe Sala or Douglas
is up there at the podium in Douglas hasn't been
a ton a good New York Jets beat reporter is
asking what's the lads in and the Hassan Redick thing.
It's like, good, No, don't look at that. That's the
thing that we're not looking at. Look at these shiny pieces.
Look how good our rookie third round wide receiver looks?
Or look how great are our new defense you know,
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additions are going to be this year. It's legit and
like you know, we're talking about how like how we
and Joe Douglas work together and they have this great relationship,
Like what were those conversations Like do you think how
we fully disclosed.
Speaker 6 (13:20):
Like hey, dude, like it or was it?
Speaker 2 (13:21):
Hey? He'll be like you'll figure I don't to me,
I don't know, it's you know, there's a relationship there
that would have made me think that, like this is
almost like a formality like hey, Joe, I'm trading you.
This guy doesn't want to be here, but like you
guys understand what it takes, Like how is that? And
then you got the ca you know, dandy relationship with
the agent coming in and it's like he's got a
ton of clients. Did Joe Douglas not have any of
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his clients in the past and say, hey, let's figure
this out beforehand.
Speaker 6 (13:46):
It's just very odd.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
But as the NFL world turns there there's another offseason
and there's another story that has like the first time
it's ever come across to demand a trade from two
teams without taking a snap.
Speaker 6 (13:56):
We've never seen that.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
Maybe how he's a dog though, and now he just
tells him and to Joe, he's like, no, I don't
think he might not a contract we had and maybe
he just.
Speaker 6 (14:05):
Doesn't like that. Listen, Akbar talks about the clock that's
on Hassan.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
The clock is on the Jets, like this is the year,
this is it, this is everything. You have a defensive coach,
you have one of the best pass rushers who's demanding
the trade.
Speaker 6 (14:17):
You have a forty year old injured quarterback, Like.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
That's the clock on you, and I just if this
gets uglier and uglier, the next step is dirty in
the waters. Because when we start to see hold on
a second, this guy's so good and produces everywhere and
yet no one wants to sign him.
Speaker 6 (14:34):
What's wrong with Hassan Reddick? What do you mean?
Speaker 1 (14:36):
What's he finishes Arizona twelve and a half sacks, They're gone?
He goes to Carolina double sacks gone, Philadelphia gets rid
of him.
Speaker 6 (14:43):
Why does no one want to sign them? It is
maybe someone in the.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
Jets maybe put that in the media about well, maybe
you should talk to his agent about how he is
in the locker room. Look, I've not heard that stuff
about Hassan Reddick personally, but when you see a player
that good at a position that important get moved around
that much, you start to wonder.
Speaker 6 (15:00):
If maybe it's more than the ability and the money.
And that's coming next.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
Trust me, Hassan Reddick since getting traded from Philadelphia, allegedly,
he's only been in the building one time of the
New York Jets, and now these decisions on both sides
are costing him.
Speaker 6 (15:13):
A press conference too.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
He did one press conference, Peter, but I don't think
he's been back right and now it's costing him nearly.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
He passed his physical and did and did a welcome
press conference. It hasn't heard of, yes, and he hadn't
signed a contract.
Speaker 7 (15:25):
And he hasn't been I'm gonna say this real quick too, Kyle,
you talked about this.
Speaker 5 (15:28):
You're right.
Speaker 7 (15:29):
The next strategy is going to be to assassinate his character.
And they do this all the time. Let's assassinate his character.
I'm telling you they hate on him because of his height.
That's the only other reason you can pull.
Speaker 5 (15:40):
Out and go.
Speaker 7 (15:40):
You know, he's a six to one. He doesn't fit
the prototype. I'm telling they need to check themselves. Are
they gonna wreck themselves?
Speaker 6 (15:50):
All? Right?
Speaker 2 (15:50):
Time for a classic GMFB segment. It's called We In
and We Out. And you guys are there in studio
in La. Kyle's here with.
Speaker 5 (15:58):
Me in New York.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
Here's the deal. I'm going to present a statement and
you guys are gonna tell me whether you agree with
it or he just agree with it. So let's get started.
Because it's been a few days in Ceedee Lamb and
Hassan Reddick I have kind of taken the headlines away
from Brandon Ayuk and his disgruntled contract situation. Niners head
coach Kyle Shanahan was asked about Ayuk and the contract
(16:19):
and the stalemate, and here's what he said.
Speaker 8 (16:21):
Yesterday you said that Brandon Ayuk gives take a part
of the meetings. Is there anything that he's able to
do or has done on the field, whether it's just
you know, running routes with the quarterbacks or anything of
that nature.
Speaker 9 (16:33):
I'm not with us, you know. I trust Brandon knows
what he's got to do for this year to get
ready to play. I'm a feeling he's finding a way
to stay in shape and do those things. But there's
a football shape element that I know he's here to
get back to in US two. So hopefully you can
get to that soon. But Brandon knows what he's got
to do to be in shape for the season, and
I feel confident he's doing that.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Oh baby, all right, back tay you back to the Niners.
Speaker 6 (17:01):
Here's the statement.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
You're gonna tell me any whether you agree or disagree
in that home you guys can play along and let
us know on social media. There is a better chance
that Brandon Ayuk suits up Week one for the forty
nine Ers. Then the Steelers are we in a we
out akbar we.
Speaker 6 (17:16):
Go to you.
Speaker 7 (17:17):
Yeah, I'm gonna go. I'm in on this one, Brandon Nayuk.
I think they're gonna work this thing out. I mean
they understand the value that they both have to each other.
Speaker 5 (17:25):
One the forty nine Ers understand that.
Speaker 7 (17:27):
Brock Purty needs Brandon nyuk and what he brings to
that team.
Speaker 5 (17:31):
We don't have to go through the numbers. We look
at the production.
Speaker 7 (17:33):
We see he's been that guy for brock Purty. Yes,
you got Deebo Sammon. But to be able to have
those guys who can make things happen in the passing game,
that's where it's happened.
Speaker 5 (17:42):
Now.
Speaker 7 (17:42):
On the other side, Brandon Nyugo, like, hold on, now,
do I want to go to the Steelers? Don't want
to go up into this cold weather guy. I've I've
been a West Coast guy my whole life Arizona State,
grew up in Nevada, playing in California. Do I really
want to step out there?
Speaker 5 (17:57):
I dang sure.
Speaker 7 (17:58):
Don't want to go to New England, right, so we
already know that's gone.
Speaker 5 (18:01):
Do I want to go to Cleveland? We know the
history over there.
Speaker 7 (18:04):
I think I want to stay with the team that
has the ability to go far again this year.
Speaker 5 (18:09):
So I'm in.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
But winning is like a nice warm jacket at times,
I have been told that I am sometimes an overly
sensitive person when I've been wronged, and that I can
hold a grudge. And no, I mean it's like it's
not a good it's like kind of edgy. It's like
not a good look for me. Sometimes whenever I hear
the word disgruntled, I'm.
Speaker 4 (18:30):
Like, get this guy out of here. This is not good.
Hassan Redick. If you want to be out, go Branda
and Ayuk.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
If you can't commit to this and if we can't
find a number, go It just makes me very uncomfortable
when someone is in a locker room, especially like he's
in meetings. He's trying to work out off to the
side though, can't run routes with the guys, like I'm
just over here running my sprints. I just I'm like,
it's very uncomfortable.
Speaker 4 (18:51):
I don't like it. Get him out of there.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
I'm going to go out on this because I would
prefer him being playing with somebody else.
Speaker 4 (18:56):
I don't care who's gonna pay him.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
But it makes me it's like, uh, just because it
makes me, it's awkward.
Speaker 4 (19:02):
It's awkward, very sense.
Speaker 5 (19:04):
To that, all right.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
I t awkward for me because it's a hard question,
and Peter, I think he really nailed this one, because
I'm really I'm sitting in and listening to the answers.
Speaker 6 (19:13):
I'm in a hard time deciding.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
So you know what my deal breaker is, I'm gonna
say in a better chance for the forty nine ers,
it's August thirteenth. Man, I feel like this was at
def Con one a week ago. Def Con one being
the worst it can get, where there's just a matter
of time and they're just shoring up the terms and
he's out of there, and now I feel like we've
pulled it back to two. I thought that that was
(19:36):
really kind of a congenial answer by Shanahan. There was
no shade there, nothing icy whatsoever. And you start to
be with the team. The difference between him and the
son Reddick.
Speaker 6 (19:44):
He's sitting there with the team.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
And he's been with this team, and these are his
brothers and his teammates, and I don't know, I personally
think he should leave for himself and for the team.
Speaker 6 (19:53):
I really do.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
But the second the calendar flips more and more John
Lynch is a very convincing charismatic guy, and you start
to paint that picture of Niner for life and go
back unfinished business for the super It's all nonsense.
Speaker 6 (20:05):
You should get paid, But it is convincing. It's all
bs completely. He should leave.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
But I'm starting to say a slight in because the
date is getting later in the month and.
Speaker 6 (20:15):
We're getting closer to the season. The hard question though, Peter, Yeah,
and I think, what's the crux here now?
Speaker 2 (20:19):
Is it sounds like it is just one team, Like
the Steelers are the only team we're hearing about. The
Browns kind of we don't hear as much about the
Patriots seemed to be out of the of the conversation.
So now your leverage has gone a little bit of
your eyeyuk, because what are the Steels like the Steelers
are gonna sit in the corner and just be told
what the trade compensation is. So the fact that he's
in the building, the fact that he's taking part in meetings,
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I think is a major deal.
Speaker 5 (20:42):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
I don't think the Niners are gonna bend and trade
him for thirty cents on the dollar. They almost have
him right there at the finish line. It's gonna be like, dude,
play or you could sit out and you get fined,
but we're gonna keep on going. We're not going to
trade you for nothing.
Speaker 5 (20:54):
I think you're in. I think I'm in.
Speaker 6 (20:55):
I think Niners.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
Yeah, all right, let's good to number two. One of
the best parts about preseason football. In addition to seeing
all these rookies and getting to kind of scout your
fantasy team a little bit, we get amazing access to
players and coaches during the game, something we don't get
in the regular season.
Speaker 6 (21:14):
We saw some really cool miked up moments from the
broadcast in Week one. Take a listen.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
This is a big play for us right here, potion
into empty four than three. What the heck we got
going here with coach McCarthy.
Speaker 6 (21:31):
Big win by, Oh, don't let.
Speaker 10 (21:34):
Him escape the come on.
Speaker 6 (21:37):
Oh, I'll tell you what. It looks like you got it.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
That's a heck of an effort by Lance Corey Durton.
Speaker 6 (21:42):
Wins got a chance to.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
Be able to finish that.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
That was I tell you what, that's a good competitive play.
Speaker 6 (21:49):
Can't let him spin out. But you know, Corey did
a great job of being able to force him out
inside out, pursuiting Leah Eli. Neil is just sure of
being able to run him out. Oh should I challenge that?
Guys want to challenge a challenge?
Speaker 4 (22:02):
Challenge and give all.
Speaker 6 (22:05):
Guys some shots don Field?
Speaker 5 (22:07):
Oh then we go fire. Oh man, I love that
so much.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
I mean, this is this is great. I'm giggling. And
here's the statement. And this is for all the folks
at the NFL League office. This is for uh Brian
Rollapp and Hans Schroeder and Annie Bows and all the
broadcast folks. Nice Peter, A star player or coach should
be miked up and on a broadcast and at least
one game each week this season, we get that from
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someone every week?
Speaker 6 (22:46):
Are we in? Er?
Speaker 2 (22:46):
We out? Oc Bar?
Speaker 5 (22:48):
Well.
Speaker 7 (22:48):
As much as I loved what we saw in the preseason,
I have to say I'm out on this one. Look,
big brother already knows what we're googling, and they're already
big brothers already listening to us on our iPhones, and
you know, we pop up social media and things that
we talked about it on. I don't need this on
the sidelines, and I don't definitely need this in the helmets.
Speaker 5 (23:09):
I don't want to hear this.
Speaker 7 (23:09):
There's an element of surprise and the sexiness that I
love to know, like, Okay, what's going to happen, not
a little anticipatory watching where oh I think it's going
to be this, But for these coaches and for these
guys who are already on the end and already know
what to expect and then already broadcasting it before we
see it. I don't know if I want that. I
don't think it's good for the game. And I think
it's too much access, you know, too much of anything.
Speaker 5 (23:32):
Is not good.
Speaker 4 (23:33):
Oh, too much access about Peter, you know. Infuriating.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
This is to see the star player, the head coach
have so much personality, so much lack of filter in game,
and then he turns right around to a sideline reporter
and gives the most stock answers ever with very little
energy or body language, and he just despises the fact
that this question is even being asking from him. And
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now we're going to have those interviews in game. And
don't even get me started on the people that say
silent reporters are useless.
Speaker 4 (24:03):
It makes me crazy.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
So unfortunately, I think it's great television.
Speaker 4 (24:07):
I'm gonna have to go in on this. I love it.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
I can't, I can't, I can't give it up.
Speaker 4 (24:11):
It's I want more of it.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
I just I rewatched the Justin Jefferson being Last Night
in My House three times on NFL Plus.
Speaker 4 (24:17):
I just kept playing it back.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
Later he runs down the sideline and the play by
play guy Paul Allen goes.
Speaker 4 (24:22):
Isn't that awesome, Jesse goes, let's go Paul. Like even
Paul Allen got a shout out. It was great.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
And I hate it because it detracts from the sideline
proporter's job.
Speaker 6 (24:31):
But yeah, I'm.
Speaker 7 (24:31):
In okay, well, well okay, what about your cob.
Speaker 6 (24:35):
I'm out on this. I'm out on this, guys.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
It just reminds me of when someone some team brings
out the throwback uniforms and someone's.
Speaker 6 (24:44):
Like, do it every week. They're amazing. Make it the
prim No, no, no, no.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
It's a special treat that we have only in the preseason.
And I hate to reign on the parade. If you
were to make up McVeigh or Jefferson during a Week
nine game.
Speaker 6 (24:57):
Against the rival. They ain't talking like that, guys. It's
not going to be like that.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
The reason they're loose and fun is because it's a
meaningless game. It's a practice against another team.
Speaker 6 (25:06):
That's on TV.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
They are not going to talk like that in real time.
And it's like enough, all right, we have enough candy
involved in the broadcast. We get this interview, this person's
micd up. We don't need all the access all the time.
I think it's too much. I don't think it would
go how you think it would go in the regular season.
Speaker 6 (25:23):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
We just take a special treat every August and get
it and the rest of the season, I'll be like
we always have it out.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
Do you want to know the secret about miked up
stuff that we get on like inside the NFL and
we get on our stuff that stuff is kind of seen,
and then there's stuff taken out.
Speaker 6 (25:38):
Really what and then like Tuesday it's a noun. It's
like showing.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
It's like all right, so like some stuff that like
maybe give a competitive advantage, they take out. Some stuff
that might be derogatory towards someone might be taken out.
And I mean there's a lot of miked up footage
we have never seen, and I'm sure it's six feet
underground at Laurel Like I want that. Vall with Jimmy
hoff Is like, Vaul, I want that. That's what I
want it's somewhere and I'll tell.
Speaker 6 (26:01):
You, guy, is it always in New Jersey? To all
that stuff is New Jersey.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
It's like we gotta gone al Capone's Chicago right now.
Speaker 6 (26:09):
I think it's all Jersey.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
Okay, it's all Jersey. That said I'm in because this
would have been fresh, and.
Speaker 6 (26:14):
It would have been in the moment.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
And you know what, if you're a coach and you
know you're being micd up for a quarter or for
a couple of drives.
Speaker 6 (26:21):
That's on.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
You don't give anything away, and you've got to be
able to be a cognizant of it. But for me,
more access the better. I want content, Baby, this is
what we're in the business.
Speaker 5 (26:29):
Hey, Peter, I want bar Peter.
Speaker 7 (26:32):
I will have to say whoever's on that red button
because there's a lot of cussing going on on.
Speaker 4 (26:36):
The side button.
Speaker 7 (26:39):
The mic is going to drop, like for at least
half the game.
Speaker 5 (26:42):
At least half the game.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
In my search for the biggest X factors going into
the twenty twenty four season, there could be some obvious answers.
You know, they can Kirk Cousins revitalize a Falcons franchise.
That's been stuck in a state of mediocrity since Matt
Ryan left. Is Isaiah Pachico ready to take the leap
and in year three be the one to cement case
as the first three Pizza World champions in NFL history?
Speaker 6 (27:06):
Or is it a guy like Gerrod.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
Mayo or Raheem Morris.
Speaker 6 (27:09):
We can go down the list throughout the next few weeks.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
I'm gonna giving you some less obvious names, names he
might not know, who could end up being the reason
the NFL season is written the way it is today.
We turn out west and we go to a gentleman
named Nick Sorenson.
Speaker 6 (27:25):
Okay, who is Nick Sorensen? That guy right there, that's
the new.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
Defensive coordinator of the NFC champion San Francisco forty nine Ers.
Speaker 6 (27:37):
Yes, the Niners, a.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
Team that's boasted one of the best defenses over the
course of a decade, a team that Bosa roster filled
with stars like Nick Bosa and Fred Warner and Teleanoah Hufanga.
That's a defense that's had defensive coaches turned NFL head
coaches like Robert Sala and Damiico Ryans in just the
past few years. That defense was in the middle of
the league, and despite a Super Bowl appearance last year,
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was viewed as average amongst the rest of the best.
That defense wasn't quite good enough for Kyle Shanahan's liking
last season, and it wasn't quite the one that Kyle
Shanahan wanted to bring back this year. So when they
fired Steve Wilkes at the end of the season, they
could have gone a million different ways.
Speaker 6 (28:18):
Bill Belichick's name was mentioned.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
Recently fired Chargers head coach Brandon Staley interviewed for the gig.
Speaker 6 (28:25):
The forty nine Ers took.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
A run at Steve Spagnolo, the Chiefs defensive quarter They
even acquired with the Jets about their defensive coordinator, Jeff Olbrick,
but in the end, Nick Sorenson was the choice. The
best team in the NFC, the one that seemingly everyone's picking.
Speaker 11 (28:41):
A return to the Super Bowl in New Orleans this year,
has a defense being run by a first time defensive
coordinator who isn't a fiery spark plug like Sala or
an NFL star like Demiko Ryans was, or a former
head coach in this league two times over like Steve Wilkes.
Speaker 6 (28:58):
So who is Sorenson well.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Nick Sorenson did play in the NFL ten years actually,
but he wasn't a household name. This guy earned everything
he ever got in the NFL. He played special teams
and nickel safety in one hundred and thirty one career
games with the Rams, the Jaguars, and some bad Browns teams.
Speaker 6 (29:21):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
After his playing career, Sorenson found his way to Seattle
just as the legion of Boom defense and that Seahawks
team was taking off, and he took it all in.
Speaker 6 (29:33):
Like a sponge.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
This guy was part of the fabric.
Speaker 6 (29:36):
First he coached legends like.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
Steve Houshka and Tyler Lockett on special teams, and then
he went on to coach Cam Chancellor and Richard Sherman
and Earl.
Speaker 6 (29:45):
Thomas on defense.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
In Seattle, he started off as a special team's assistant coordinator,
but eventually got all the way up to.
Speaker 6 (29:52):
Being the man who ran that defensive backs room.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
He coached the dbs and saw the Seahawks make the
playoffs year after year after year after year. But after
twenty twenty, he got a call to come to the
Jacksonville Jaguars. That call was from Urban Meyer, and Nick
Sorenson said Okay, I'm gonna take the leap.
Speaker 6 (30:10):
I'm gonna go with Urban from.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
The college game to the pro game, and he became
the special teams coordinator for the twenty twenty one Jaguars.
Speaker 6 (30:18):
Well, as we know, Urban Meyer was fired in December, and.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
So was the rest of the staff Sorenson included. So
San Francisco is the next stop. But it wouldn't be
as easy as finding a defined role with a staff
as loaded as Kyle Shanahan's was, so.
Speaker 6 (30:33):
He became a jack of all trades.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
He helped the linebackers in twenty twenty two when the
position coach, Johnny Holland was out dealing with cancer treatment,
and last season the title was officially Teams Passing Games Specialists,
which is as netlas as it gets, and he primarily
worked with the nickelbacks. You see, Nick Sorenson is by
no means a household name, but for the majority of
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the last twenty five years, this guy has been either
a player or coach in the NFL. The players seemed
thrilled that he's the one calling the shots on defense,
and Kyle Shanahan's been super positive about the hire. But
make no mistake, this isn't Bill Belichick, this isn't Steve Spagnolo,
this isn't even Brandon Staley, who, by the way, is
still on staff in the background as Sorenson is the
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defensive coordinator. See as X factors go this season, Nick
Sorenson is right up there with the biggest names in
the business. He's a smashing success. We'll be talking about
the Niners deep in the January and he could very
well be a head coaching candidate slash head coach by
the time.
Speaker 6 (31:32):
We get to late January.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
If he's not a success, well, let's not quite go
there just yet. Nick Sorenson X factor, new defensive coordinator,
first year guy, Kyle Brent, you're next to me here
in New York. Your thoughts on the Nick Sorenson era
in San Francisco.
Speaker 6 (31:52):
Let's go right where you just said, let's not go.
It seems like a risk.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
It seems like a big risk, especially if Shanahan was
shooting for the moon and trying to get future Hall
of Fame coaches and he's going with a first time
guy in a pivotal season when they have to get
the defense back and elite. What is it about him
other than just Kyle likes his guys and he likes somebody.
He has a good history and a track record, like
this is a huge job in a huge season. The
resume is cool, it's interesting, but like it's not overwhelming.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
Yeah, and he's not firing Broomstone. Like he's not solid
flexing on the sidelines. That's not his thing. This is
a guy who speaks to the players, relates to the players.
The other coaches respond to him. Again, essentially coached the
nickelbacks last year for a Niners defense that wasn't outstanding, right,
and yet he's the higher One quick biographical note went
to Virginia Tech where he started off as a quarterback,
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but he was wally pipped when he got injured and
some other young kid took over. That guy was Michael
VICKI man.
Speaker 6 (32:44):
And never played quarterback again.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
That was kind of it, and he had to make
his way in a different way, and he ended up
being a special teams demon in the league. Okbar, you
gotta love these stories.
Speaker 7 (32:53):
That's a pretty cool biographical note right there. While he
pipped by Michael Vick that's kind of a badge. But
you know, I actually love this story. You know, these
types of stories I really fall in love with because
you know, I do believe in my career and in
my life, I've always felt that the best coaches are.
Speaker 5 (33:10):
Usually the ones you don't know a lot about.
Speaker 7 (33:12):
And when I say that, you talked about you know
him not necessarily being a household name, but those types
of players who have that type of pedigree, who come
from that type of you know, that background, they tend
to see the game differently. You know, I'm going to
basketball old reference. I'm thinking of Phil Jackson. Phil Jackson,
you know, wasn't the biggest name, household name. Yes he
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was a player in the NBA, but he was even
a better coach. And so for a guy like Nick Dornson,
I'm rooting for him because he has a way of
connecting with players. I'm sure that a lot of coaches
who have a lot of early success may not be
able because a lot of them wear egos, and so
for a guy like Nick Dornson may not have the ego.
Speaker 5 (33:51):
I'm thinking of.
Speaker 7 (33:52):
Rob Manusky was a position coach for a very long time,
was a special teamer and when he played in the
NFL and then became a very successful defensive coordinator, and
I think this, he might be on the same type
of track, And you know, I think of Rob Nusky.
I think about his ability to connect with players. So
I'm hoping this for Nick Sawnson. I'm hoping the forty
nine ers luck with this transition.
Speaker 3 (34:14):
I always like to Talkbar's point gauge just how well
known or popular a guy is, just with like, this
is the first time that if you're on a new
device or surface, if you will, you search his name,
so you're like you're.
Speaker 4 (34:26):
Getting the freshest responses.
Speaker 3 (34:28):
Apparently there's an Anaheim Ducks prospect named Nick Sorenson as well.
The searches are right there. They're level headed. So this
is how little we know about this guy in terms
of his career. But I kind of like it for
the forty nine ers and Peter. I think in this era,
coming off of the Olympics of athlete mental health and
kind of trying to touch every part of the game
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and their lives, sounds like this could be an innovative fit,
and no one more innovative than Shanahan. Time now for
the preseason spotlight presented by Harbor Freight. Over the weekend,
you might have seen a clip circulating of liked up.
Patrick Mahomes, Well, if you missed it, we've got it.
Speaker 4 (35:08):
Take a listen.
Speaker 5 (35:13):
Oh dude, I didn't throw my pants on.
Speaker 10 (35:15):
I think anyone knows notices grab my pads my pants idiot.
Now dude got throw my pants on. They're just crazy
to me. How much music I don't know out here?
I know I'm getting old. I got listened to all
types of music too, I just don't know out here.
Speaker 6 (35:29):
I ain't never heard this song in my life.
Speaker 10 (35:31):
Greatness today all day long. You should see me some
ground beef on the stove. Dude, lay it out, marinate
a little bit, and then talking what about nine?
Speaker 5 (35:44):
Here we go baby taking it off.
Speaker 10 (35:52):
Sorry, guys, gotta run.
Speaker 4 (35:56):
That's all right. You gave us what we wanted.
Speaker 3 (35:58):
Patrick Mahomes, bar, where do you take us?
Speaker 5 (36:01):
Okay?
Speaker 7 (36:01):
First off, that was inconvenience as hell to to not
have your pads on. Like, let me tell you, like
this has happened to a lot of players. Like he's
got to now go into the locker room. He's got
to take the cleats off. He's got to go through
that whole process, go strip it down, load the pads in.
After he loads the pads in, then come put it
(36:23):
back on, put the cleats on.
Speaker 5 (36:24):
I mean, it's so annoying. But the part that stood
out to me was how he just going around like, yo,
I left my, I.
Speaker 3 (36:33):
Left my I think he wanted someone to excuse it
for practice, to be honest, Peter, I thought he was
just kind of like he was wanting any read to
be like, no, the son, you're good, you don't have
to practice, don't put him on.
Speaker 4 (36:42):
It's fine.
Speaker 6 (36:44):
Is it?
Speaker 2 (36:44):
Is it crazy that like, for all the content we
get and for all of the you know, focus on
Patrick Mahomes, Like he's not one of those guys where
I cringe and I'm like enough with Mahomes, Like it
hasn't gotten to that yet, And there are athletes that like, Okay,
here's another clip from this guy and he's performing for
the cameras and I'm good, I get the gist. Like,
I still find Mahomes incredible endearing, and that's maybe because
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I have a huge crush on him.
Speaker 6 (37:06):
But other than that, that's all I got. No, I'm
with you.
Speaker 1 (37:08):
I don't know why he's so concerned about his leg pads,
Like they're not gonna hit you in practice, not even.
Speaker 6 (37:13):
Allowed to hit you in games. Patrick, Oh, there we go.
So I also get.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
The impression that he's the kind of guy who walks
around just kind of talking to himself, like they say
the geniuses are always just muttering to themselves. I do
like that his version of cooking is putting some ground
beef on the stove, Like that is low level, million
dollar contrack, but that's who he is, and it's probably
ground chuck. It's like seventy percent lean, and I just
love it. It's I think that's who he is. He's
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not trying to be cool.
Speaker 4 (37:39):
There is nothing more relatable, though.
Speaker 3 (37:41):
The way he cooked the ground beef, Like that's how
you look when you're just like I'm just making my
kids taco meat like he was.
Speaker 4 (37:46):
The way he was doing his action was so perfect, and.
Speaker 3 (37:50):
That the cheese on the pasta, Like everybody not respond
that way to cheese on pasta.
Speaker 6 (37:54):
Don't forget the iceberg for those tacos.
Good Morning Football is the production of the NFL in
partnership with iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Good Morning Football.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
Yeah, it's a good morning to talk about football. Our
show today is presented by Harbor Freight live here in
Los Angeles and New York City.
Speaker 4 (00:32):
I'm Jamie Heart.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
All of course, that's off bar Buzzy BMLA.
Speaker 4 (00:35):
There's for Schrager.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
There's wearing the swagged out new GMFB logo T shirt,
Kyle Brandt. Both of those guys are in New York City.
Very nice, gentlemen.
Speaker 5 (00:45):
Hey, what size is that?
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Kyle?
Speaker 4 (00:46):
Hey?
Speaker 6 (00:48):
Extra medium?
Speaker 1 (00:49):
As always, the T shirt jokes always work on me,
and you know it always works on the air.
Speaker 6 (00:55):
Oh, a big old New York Jets story.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
People just flock to it, hate it, love it doesn't matter.
Speaker 6 (01:01):
We're here in New York.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Peter, how would you describe the vibe out on the
street for Hassan Reddick?
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Right now, Jets fans are thrilled. How this is gone.
This is just what they wanted, Jamie. Jets fans all
day texting me yesterday, what do you got on?
Speaker 6 (01:13):
Reddick?
Speaker 2 (01:13):
I said, save it for tomorrow's show. You'll have to
watch there. So we're going to give that little tease, and.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
We shall not make them wait a second longer. Peter
and Kyle and Achbar are very good. The Jets here
we go are the lead block. They acquired Hassan Reddick
in an off season move from the Eagles.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
Now he's been holding out.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
From the team because of a contract discute that frankly
was well known when the trade occurred. Reddick took things
to the next level. He hasn't been at mini camp,
he hasn't been at training camp, and then yesterday to
the New York Jets. He requested a trade, but the
Jets said, no, we're good, You're staying here. Here's the
Jets official statement. We have informed Hassan that we will
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not trade him. He's expected to be here with his
teammates and he will continue to be fined per the
CBA if he.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
Does not report.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
Since the trade discussions back in March, we have been clear, direct,
and consistent.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
With the position.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
Our focus will remain on the guys we have here
as we prepare for the regular season. It sounds like parenting.
We have been clear, direct, and consistent with our messaging.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
So in an off season of.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
Positivity surrounding the New York Jets man, this Hassan Redick,
This is uncomfortable, Peter, where do you take us?
Speaker 4 (02:23):
First?
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Yeah, look, when the Jets traded for Hassan Redick, Therasan
Reddick made it pretty obvious and clear that he wanted
one of those huge contract extensions.
Speaker 6 (02:34):
The Eagles weren't willing to give it.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
The Jets got him, I would say, for sixty cents
on the dollar or conditional third round pick.
Speaker 6 (02:40):
And I think the assumption anytime.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
You trade for a guy who's asking for a trade
from somewhere else, that deal is locked up and done
before you even see him walk in the building. But
this is a guy who did not get that situation.
The Jets took a risk. They both took a little
bit of a risk and leap of faith. If you will,
take a look at Hassan Reddick's career up until this point.
He has never been that guy that signed the mega
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free agent deal, the long term deal Cardinals is a rookie,
got the rookie money, then went to the Carolina Panthers
with Matt you know where Matt Rule was for a
year for whose college coach. Then he goes to the
Eagles for two years. These are standout seasons. He gets
traded to the Jets, and I think everyone assumes. He
even does a press conference in April where he talks
about how excited he is to be a Jets.
Speaker 6 (03:23):
Jets figure they get.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
It done too, But then it never got done, whether
it wasn't offer whatever, or whether Reddick wanted more money
than the Jets did offer installed. And you know, usually
when you pass a physical and you sign, you know,
and the deals done and you do the press conference,
it is a formality like this is going to be
a new deal. And here's some wrinkles in this thing
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that you probably need to know, Hassan. Reddick's agent is
a guy named Tory Dandy. Tory's been doing this for
a long time. Tory represents Deebo Samuel, he represents AJ Brown.
A lot of these guys go to the wire with
contract stuff and the AJ Brown deal.
Speaker 6 (03:59):
If you remember, we lauded Howie.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Roseman for days because during the draft, not only did
he trade for AJ Brown, but he worked with Tory
Dandy to get the new contract done before that trade
was executed. So how we in that situation got a
pat in the back because yet you not only got
aj Brown, but you also put that contract to bed
and he can't do.
Speaker 6 (04:21):
A whole out like he is an Eagle.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
The Jets do the trade, but they didn't put the
contract to bed. They didn't get it done. Now here
is where you're in a jam. He demanded a trade
from Philadelphia. He got that trade. Now he's demanding a
trade from the Jets. What team is going to knock
down the door and say, okay, well, we didn't want
him then in April we didn't want him. That was
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you know, we know the Eagles were dangling him, but
we didn't want him. But now that it's August and
he wants that mega contract deal and our salary cat
situation is pretty firm, and we've got our guys and
we've drafted our Now.
Speaker 6 (04:57):
We are going to sign him to that major deal.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
It doesn't make This is the equivalent of the Giants
traded for Brian Burns, which they did and didn't have
the numbers banged out beforehand. This is bad on both sides,
and I think on both sides they did a leap
of faith here where like it'll get done.
Speaker 6 (05:13):
But as we head towards the now third week.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Of August coming up and the second preseason games.
Speaker 6 (05:21):
Yeah, no, it's not done.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
And I don't think there's gonna be any movement unless
one of the other side's budgets.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Well, I think Hassan Reddick wants there to be movement.
Hassan Redick just wants to be loved. You know, you
just showed the journey, you know, bad teams, the Panthers,
Cardinals against the Egos, Like no one wants to love him.
He's twenty seven dresses like he is always the bridesmaid.
And so he's like, come on, let's get married. I'm
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coming to New York City, Let's win a Super Bowl.
I'm ready, I'm great, I'm in my prime. And the
Jets are like, let's date for a while, like before
we jump. He's like, I've already been dating. I've been
left at the altar. I don't want to do this.
So what happens when when head buddy and lovers are
getting in this spat in public, you start posturing and
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you post things on your Instagram or you start to
show off, like you change your relationship status.
Speaker 6 (06:11):
This is an amazing thing for me. This is what
happened yesterday.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
So Ian Rapperporre tweets the report that tweet this, check
us out because we're gonna do timestamps and everything.
Speaker 6 (06:20):
Rap Sheet tweets out.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
That Hassan rectamand in a trade eleven thirty five Eastern time. Okay,
so that's out. Boom, it's in the public. Everybody's chewing
on it. The Jet statement, show that and look at
this eleven thirty five Eastern The Jets statement comes out
twelve oh seven easterns. That's twenty nine twenty five, thirty
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two minutes later. Now, mind you, they put it on
the letterhead the fonds. They got to run that through
several different departments, the GM, the head coach, the social
media person that wasn't banged out on the memo app
of your iPhone and screencap.
Speaker 6 (06:56):
That thirty two minutes. Like either they did that in.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
An emotional response blah blah blah blah blah, or they
had that sucker locked because.
Speaker 6 (07:03):
They knew this was coming and.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
This has been sitting in the draft folder and they
said release the hounds. In thirty two minutes. They had
that eloquent and that passionate of a response, and I
think they knew it was coming because they know this
is going nowhere.
Speaker 6 (07:17):
I have to say the Jets stories.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
I'm loath to just beat up on the Jets because
everyone does it. Say well, Jets, it's nonsense. I hate
that crap. But my god, like Joe Douglas the GM,
you worked at Philly, You're Rosman's guy. So I would
think when the trade from the Eagles happened, there's a
full disclosure of FYI, Joe, you know Hassan wants to
be paid. Oh yeah, yeah, we know, we know, we know,
(07:41):
And now just nothing, no deal. This is akin to
right now. During this segment, the Niners trade Brandon Ayuk
to the Steelers and the Steelers are.
Speaker 6 (07:50):
Like, yeah, but no new deal. What are you doing
with me?
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Then I just go from having a yellow sweatshirt and
a red one. I'm just standing on your sideline now.
So the fact that the deal wasn't there or they said, Hassan, yeah,
maybe we'll get to it, it's a breakdown. It's not
supposed to to happen. And I still don't think this
is over.
Speaker 6 (08:06):
And close knockbar. I want to hear your thoughts.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Peer are saying, well, it's so close to the season,
who's going to make a deal for them. Now people
are like, he should go to Chicago, and I understand
it's late and the salary cap is set.
Speaker 6 (08:16):
He is a sexy ass player. Great, there are two players.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
In the NFL who have double digit sacks four seasons
in a row. It's Miles Garrett, It's Hassan Reddick.
Speaker 6 (08:25):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
That's the list, Not TJ. Watt, Michael Parsons. This is
a game, roster changing player for which someone might be like,
can we throw some money together right now and get
him here and win a Super Bowl?
Speaker 6 (08:35):
Now.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
I would not be surprised if the Jets do trade him,
because I think there will be a suitor.
Speaker 6 (08:39):
But it should not have come to this. Have the
deal ready, have the ring ready?
Speaker 1 (08:43):
You knew he was looking to be in a relationship,
no more bridesman, it should have been ready.
Speaker 5 (08:47):
Yeah. I think to that.
Speaker 7 (08:49):
You know, in a relationship, you know there's always something
that somebody's judging or looking at. When I look at
Hassan Reddick, I think a lot of this has to do.
And I know people probably won't say this, but for me,
as a d lineman, as an edge guy, I'm looking
at this like, why are they hating on him, especially
because we're looking at the second most important player on
the Jets. You have Aaron Rodgers and then you have
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Hasan Redding. That type of production you can't just go
find anywhere out on the street. This dude is a baller.
Watch him, watch a film. He changes the game. I mean,
I don't understand why. But the one thing that stands
out is this is a guy that's six ' one
two and forty pounds. And it's very easy for front
office guys, people who just sit up there and go,
(09:32):
oh yeah, yeah, he's productive. But he's a smaller guy
and look at his numbers. His numbers are impressive. Like,
I'm heated. You probably hear the energy in my voice
because this is major disrespect. You know why the Jets
can't ever have anything nice because they don't know how
to appreciate anything. And this type of stuff, this is
the type of stuff that gives you bad juju on
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the team, Like you can't just disrespect Hassan Redding after
the work he's put in. And I had our guy
Lakwan pull up the numbers and I started looking. I'm
going look at the guys out there who were making
sevent team fifteen million dollars. Bryce Huff twenty three sacks
or excuse me, seventeen sacks in twenty three games. Hassan
Reddick fifty point five sacks and sixty one games. These
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guys Harold Landry making seventeen million dollars. You mean to
tell me that you are putting this guy in the
same caliber with Harold Landry. And no disrespect to these guys,
but they just haven't produced the same way, same thing
with Alex Heismith. How are we not paying him? The
dude is a twenty five twenty seven thirty million dollar
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type player.
Speaker 5 (10:35):
Pay him. I don't understand.
Speaker 7 (10:37):
They have the ability to make some cap adjustments, to
do some stuff to make it smart.
Speaker 6 (10:41):
You have all the.
Speaker 7 (10:42):
Guys who I can't calculate like that, all right, I
don't do math like that, but they know how to
do math. You guys have somebody in the front office
who knows math. Furthermore, you talked about Joe Douglass. Joe
Douglas came from Philly. He understands what he saw, what
he did in Philly. He understands it. So why wouldn't
you pay him? I don't understand why you would bring
a guy in this high caliber and go, you know what,
I'm not gonna pay him. It's like bringing in a
(11:03):
Ferrah and then talking about I don't have gas money,
I don't have name. Why the heck did you buy
the car?
Speaker 6 (11:09):
Then? Why would you bring it in?
Speaker 7 (11:11):
This pisses me off, Like I'm legit pissed for this dude.
Speaker 5 (11:14):
I hurt for him because I know it.
Speaker 7 (11:17):
Like at thirty years old, he understands there's a clock
on him as well. So this is the opportunity for
him to go out there and get paid. And they
messing with this dude. Man, the Jets, y'all gonna get
something for that. Y'all ain't right, And you guys know it.
You know I'm telling the truth. I'm sorry I.
Speaker 4 (11:33):
Putting unleaded in it. That's exactly right, right.
Speaker 5 (11:36):
You don't put eighty seven exactly.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
So to Akbar's point, you know he's looking at these guys.
It's kind of weird names to group them together. I
see what you're doing, which is since in the last
couple of years you got a guy like Bryce Hawe
for Alex Heismith in the twenties, like the Sacks like oh,
they've had twenty.
Speaker 4 (11:51):
This guy's had.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
Fifty sacks in the city. So the fact that they
are on the same list together. But the irony of
the Bryce hoff thing is that that he went to
Philadelphia like that. That's what the Jets were giving up.
They understand what they were doing there. Peter, I ask you,
this is a Joe Douglas question. Potentially he's had a
couple of players in the last couple of years in
his reign that have reportedly requested trades and it's been fulfilled.
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Do you think Hassan Reddick is saying I want to
be like Jamal Adams, Denzel Mims, like any of these
guys who said I want out no matter what time
it was on the clock. And Joe Douglas now feels
like I have to move this because, to up Oar's point,
the Jets had very good feelings coming into this, like
the Aaron Rodgers dancing and everyone's feeling so great.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
About him in the AFC East.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
This is not good for the Jets and the chemistry,
the court of public opinion, the chemistry that's in.
Speaker 4 (12:41):
The locker room.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Well, it's been the poison pill of all summer that
no one's talking about like anytime Joe Sala or Douglas
is up there at the podium in Douglas hasn't been
a ton a good New York Jets beat reporter is
asking what's the lads in and the Hassan Redick thing.
It's like, good, No, don't look at that. That's the
thing that we're not looking at. Look at these shiny pieces.
Look how good our rookie third round wide receiver looks?
Or look how great are our new defense you know,
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additions are going to be this year. It's legit and
like you know, we're talking about how like how we
and Joe Douglas work together and they have this great relationship,
Like what were those conversations Like do you think how
we fully disclosed.
Speaker 6 (13:20):
Like hey, dude, like it or was it?
Speaker 2 (13:21):
Hey? He'll be like you'll figure I don't to me,
I don't know, it's you know, there's a relationship there
that would have made me think that, like this is
almost like a formality like hey, Joe, I'm trading you.
This guy doesn't want to be here, but like you
guys understand what it takes, Like how is that? And
then you got the ca you know, dandy relationship with
the agent coming in and it's like he's got a
ton of clients. Did Joe Douglas not have any of
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his clients in the past and say, hey, let's figure
this out beforehand.
Speaker 6 (13:46):
It's just very odd.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
But as the NFL world turns there there's another offseason
and there's another story that has like the first time
it's ever come across to demand a trade from two
teams without taking a snap.
Speaker 6 (13:56):
We've never seen that.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
Maybe how he's a dog though, and now he just
tells him and to Joe, he's like, no, I don't
think he might not a contract we had and maybe
he just.
Speaker 6 (14:05):
Doesn't like that. Listen, Akbar talks about the clock that's
on Hassan.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
The clock is on the Jets, like this is the year,
this is it, this is everything. You have a defensive coach,
you have one of the best pass rushers who's demanding
the trade.
Speaker 6 (14:17):
You have a forty year old injured quarterback, Like.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
That's the clock on you, and I just if this
gets uglier and uglier, the next step is dirty in
the waters. Because when we start to see hold on
a second, this guy's so good and produces everywhere and
yet no one wants to sign him.
Speaker 6 (14:34):
What's wrong with Hassan Reddick? What do you mean?
Speaker 1 (14:36):
What's he finishes Arizona twelve and a half sacks, They're gone?
He goes to Carolina double sacks gone, Philadelphia gets rid
of him.
Speaker 6 (14:43):
Why does no one want to sign them? It is
maybe someone in the.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
Jets maybe put that in the media about well, maybe
you should talk to his agent about how he is
in the locker room. Look, I've not heard that stuff
about Hassan Reddick personally, but when you see a player
that good at a position that important get moved around
that much, you start to wonder.
Speaker 6 (15:00):
If maybe it's more than the ability and the money.
And that's coming next.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
Trust me, Hassan Reddick since getting traded from Philadelphia, allegedly,
he's only been in the building one time of the
New York Jets, and now these decisions on both sides
are costing him.
Speaker 6 (15:13):
A press conference too.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
He did one press conference, Peter, but I don't think
he's been back right and now it's costing him nearly.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
He passed his physical and did and did a welcome
press conference. It hasn't heard of, yes, and he hadn't
signed a contract.
Speaker 7 (15:25):
And he hasn't been I'm gonna say this real quick too, Kyle,
you talked about this.
Speaker 5 (15:28):
You're right.
Speaker 7 (15:29):
The next strategy is going to be to assassinate his character.
And they do this all the time. Let's assassinate his character.
I'm telling you they hate on him because of his height.
That's the only other reason you can pull.
Speaker 5 (15:40):
Out and go.
Speaker 7 (15:40):
You know, he's a six to one. He doesn't fit
the prototype. I'm telling they need to check themselves. Are
they gonna wreck themselves?
Speaker 6 (15:50):
All? Right?
Speaker 2 (15:50):
Time for a classic GMFB segment. It's called We In
and We Out. And you guys are there in studio
in La. Kyle's here with.
Speaker 5 (15:58):
Me in New York.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
Here's the deal. I'm going to present a statement and
you guys are gonna tell me whether you agree with
it or he just agree with it. So let's get started.
Because it's been a few days in Ceedee Lamb and
Hassan Reddick I have kind of taken the headlines away
from Brandon Ayuk and his disgruntled contract situation. Niners head
coach Kyle Shanahan was asked about Ayuk and the contract
(16:19):
and the stalemate, and here's what he said.
Speaker 8 (16:21):
Yesterday you said that Brandon Ayuk gives take a part
of the meetings. Is there anything that he's able to
do or has done on the field, whether it's just
you know, running routes with the quarterbacks or anything of
that nature.
Speaker 9 (16:33):
I'm not with us, you know. I trust Brandon knows
what he's got to do for this year to get
ready to play. I'm a feeling he's finding a way
to stay in shape and do those things. But there's
a football shape element that I know he's here to
get back to in US two. So hopefully you can
get to that soon. But Brandon knows what he's got
to do to be in shape for the season, and
I feel confident he's doing that.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Oh baby, all right, back tay you back to the Niners.
Speaker 6 (17:01):
Here's the statement.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
You're gonna tell me any whether you agree or disagree
in that home you guys can play along and let
us know on social media. There is a better chance
that Brandon Ayuk suits up Week one for the forty
nine Ers. Then the Steelers are we in a we
out akbar we.
Speaker 6 (17:16):
Go to you.
Speaker 7 (17:17):
Yeah, I'm gonna go. I'm in on this one, Brandon Nayuk.
I think they're gonna work this thing out. I mean
they understand the value that they both have to each other.
Speaker 5 (17:25):
One the forty nine Ers understand that.
Speaker 7 (17:27):
Brock Purty needs Brandon nyuk and what he brings to
that team.
Speaker 5 (17:31):
We don't have to go through the numbers. We look
at the production.
Speaker 7 (17:33):
We see he's been that guy for brock Purty. Yes,
you got Deebo Sammon. But to be able to have
those guys who can make things happen in the passing game,
that's where it's happened.
Speaker 5 (17:42):
Now.
Speaker 7 (17:42):
On the other side, Brandon Nyugo, like, hold on, now,
do I want to go to the Steelers? Don't want
to go up into this cold weather guy. I've I've
been a West Coast guy my whole life Arizona State,
grew up in Nevada, playing in California. Do I really
want to step out there?
Speaker 5 (17:57):
I dang sure.
Speaker 7 (17:58):
Don't want to go to New England, right, so we
already know that's gone.
Speaker 5 (18:01):
Do I want to go to Cleveland? We know the
history over there.
Speaker 7 (18:04):
I think I want to stay with the team that
has the ability to go far again this year.
Speaker 5 (18:09):
So I'm in.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
But winning is like a nice warm jacket at times,
I have been told that I am sometimes an overly
sensitive person when I've been wronged, and that I can
hold a grudge. And no, I mean it's like it's
not a good it's like kind of edgy. It's like
not a good look for me. Sometimes whenever I hear
the word disgruntled, I'm.
Speaker 4 (18:30):
Like, get this guy out of here. This is not good.
Hassan Redick. If you want to be out, go Branda
and Ayuk.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
If you can't commit to this and if we can't
find a number, go It just makes me very uncomfortable
when someone is in a locker room, especially like he's
in meetings. He's trying to work out off to the
side though, can't run routes with the guys, like I'm
just over here running my sprints. I just I'm like,
it's very uncomfortable.
Speaker 4 (18:51):
I don't like it. Get him out of there.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
I'm going to go out on this because I would
prefer him being playing with somebody else.
Speaker 4 (18:56):
I don't care who's gonna pay him.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
But it makes me it's like, uh, just because it
makes me, it's awkward.
Speaker 4 (19:02):
It's awkward, very sense.
Speaker 5 (19:04):
To that, all right.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
I t awkward for me because it's a hard question,
and Peter, I think he really nailed this one, because
I'm really I'm sitting in and listening to the answers.
Speaker 6 (19:13):
I'm in a hard time deciding.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
So you know what my deal breaker is, I'm gonna
say in a better chance for the forty nine ers,
it's August thirteenth. Man, I feel like this was at
def Con one a week ago. Def Con one being
the worst it can get, where there's just a matter
of time and they're just shoring up the terms and
he's out of there, and now I feel like we've
pulled it back to two. I thought that that was
(19:36):
really kind of a congenial answer by Shanahan. There was
no shade there, nothing icy whatsoever. And you start to
be with the team. The difference between him and the
son Reddick.
Speaker 6 (19:44):
He's sitting there with the team.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
And he's been with this team, and these are his
brothers and his teammates, and I don't know, I personally
think he should leave for himself and for the team.
Speaker 6 (19:53):
I really do.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
But the second the calendar flips more and more John
Lynch is a very convincing charismatic guy, and you start
to paint that picture of Niner for life and go
back unfinished business for the super It's all nonsense.
Speaker 6 (20:05):
You should get paid, But it is convincing. It's all
bs completely. He should leave.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
But I'm starting to say a slight in because the
date is getting later in the month and.
Speaker 6 (20:15):
We're getting closer to the season. The hard question though, Peter, Yeah,
and I think, what's the crux here now?
Speaker 2 (20:19):
Is it sounds like it is just one team, Like
the Steelers are the only team we're hearing about. The
Browns kind of we don't hear as much about the
Patriots seemed to be out of the of the conversation.
So now your leverage has gone a little bit of
your eyeyuk, because what are the Steels like the Steelers
are gonna sit in the corner and just be told
what the trade compensation is. So the fact that he's
in the building, the fact that he's taking part in meetings,
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I think is a major deal.
Speaker 5 (20:42):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
I don't think the Niners are gonna bend and trade
him for thirty cents on the dollar. They almost have
him right there at the finish line. It's gonna be like, dude,
play or you could sit out and you get fined,
but we're gonna keep on going. We're not going to
trade you for nothing.
Speaker 5 (20:54):
I think you're in. I think I'm in.
Speaker 6 (20:55):
I think Niners.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
Yeah, all right, let's good to number two. One of
the best parts about preseason football. In addition to seeing
all these rookies and getting to kind of scout your
fantasy team a little bit, we get amazing access to
players and coaches during the game, something we don't get
in the regular season.
Speaker 6 (21:14):
We saw some really cool miked up moments from the
broadcast in Week one. Take a listen.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
This is a big play for us right here, potion
into empty four than three. What the heck we got
going here with coach McCarthy.
Speaker 6 (21:31):
Big win by, Oh, don't let.
Speaker 10 (21:34):
Him escape the come on.
Speaker 6 (21:37):
Oh, I'll tell you what. It looks like you got it.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
That's a heck of an effort by Lance Corey Durton.
Speaker 6 (21:42):
Wins got a chance to.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
Be able to finish that.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
That was I tell you what, that's a good competitive play.
Speaker 6 (21:49):
Can't let him spin out. But you know, Corey did
a great job of being able to force him out
inside out, pursuiting Leah Eli. Neil is just sure of
being able to run him out. Oh should I challenge that?
Guys want to challenge a challenge?
Speaker 4 (22:02):
Challenge and give all.
Speaker 6 (22:05):
Guys some shots don Field?
Speaker 5 (22:07):
Oh then we go fire. Oh man, I love that
so much.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
I mean, this is this is great. I'm giggling. And
here's the statement. And this is for all the folks
at the NFL League office. This is for uh Brian
Rollapp and Hans Schroeder and Annie Bows and all the
broadcast folks. Nice Peter, A star player or coach should
be miked up and on a broadcast and at least
one game each week this season, we get that from
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someone every week?
Speaker 6 (22:46):
Are we in? Er?
Speaker 2 (22:46):
We out? Oc Bar?
Speaker 5 (22:48):
Well.
Speaker 7 (22:48):
As much as I loved what we saw in the preseason,
I have to say I'm out on this one. Look,
big brother already knows what we're googling, and they're already
big brothers already listening to us on our iPhones, and
you know, we pop up social media and things that
we talked about it on. I don't need this on
the sidelines, and I don't definitely need this in the helmets.
Speaker 5 (23:09):
I don't want to hear this.
Speaker 7 (23:09):
There's an element of surprise and the sexiness that I
love to know, like, Okay, what's going to happen, not
a little anticipatory watching where oh I think it's going
to be this, But for these coaches and for these
guys who are already on the end and already know
what to expect and then already broadcasting it before we
see it. I don't know if I want that. I
don't think it's good for the game. And I think
it's too much access, you know, too much of anything.
Speaker 5 (23:32):
Is not good.
Speaker 4 (23:33):
Oh, too much access about Peter, you know. Infuriating.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
This is to see the star player, the head coach
have so much personality, so much lack of filter in game,
and then he turns right around to a sideline reporter
and gives the most stock answers ever with very little
energy or body language, and he just despises the fact
that this question is even being asking from him. And
(23:57):
now we're going to have those interviews in game. And
don't even get me started on the people that say
silent reporters are useless.
Speaker 4 (24:03):
It makes me crazy.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
So unfortunately, I think it's great television.
Speaker 4 (24:07):
I'm gonna have to go in on this. I love it.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
I can't, I can't, I can't give it up.
Speaker 4 (24:11):
It's I want more of it.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
I just I rewatched the Justin Jefferson being Last Night
in My House three times on NFL Plus.
Speaker 4 (24:17):
I just kept playing it back.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
Later he runs down the sideline and the play by
play guy Paul Allen goes.
Speaker 4 (24:22):
Isn't that awesome, Jesse goes, let's go Paul. Like even
Paul Allen got a shout out. It was great.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
And I hate it because it detracts from the sideline
proporter's job.
Speaker 6 (24:31):
But yeah, I'm.
Speaker 7 (24:31):
In okay, well, well okay, what about your cob.
Speaker 6 (24:35):
I'm out on this. I'm out on this, guys.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
It just reminds me of when someone some team brings
out the throwback uniforms and someone's.
Speaker 6 (24:44):
Like, do it every week. They're amazing. Make it the
prim No, no, no, no.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
It's a special treat that we have only in the preseason.
And I hate to reign on the parade. If you
were to make up McVeigh or Jefferson during a Week
nine game.
Speaker 6 (24:57):
Against the rival. They ain't talking like that, guys. It's
not going to be like that.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
The reason they're loose and fun is because it's a
meaningless game. It's a practice against another team.
Speaker 6 (25:06):
That's on TV.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
They are not going to talk like that in real time.
And it's like enough, all right, we have enough candy
involved in the broadcast. We get this interview, this person's
micd up. We don't need all the access all the time.
I think it's too much. I don't think it would
go how you think it would go in the regular season.
Speaker 6 (25:23):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
We just take a special treat every August and get
it and the rest of the season, I'll be like
we always have it out.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
Do you want to know the secret about miked up
stuff that we get on like inside the NFL and
we get on our stuff that stuff is kind of seen,
and then there's stuff taken out.
Speaker 6 (25:38):
Really what and then like Tuesday it's a noun. It's
like showing.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
It's like all right, so like some stuff that like
maybe give a competitive advantage, they take out. Some stuff
that might be derogatory towards someone might be taken out.
And I mean there's a lot of miked up footage
we have never seen, and I'm sure it's six feet
underground at Laurel Like I want that. Vall with Jimmy
hoff Is like, Vaul, I want that. That's what I
want it's somewhere and I'll tell.
Speaker 6 (26:01):
You, guy, is it always in New Jersey? To all
that stuff is New Jersey.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
It's like we gotta gone al Capone's Chicago right now.
Speaker 6 (26:09):
I think it's all Jersey.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
Okay, it's all Jersey. That said I'm in because this
would have been fresh, and.
Speaker 6 (26:14):
It would have been in the moment.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
And you know what, if you're a coach and you
know you're being micd up for a quarter or for
a couple of drives.
Speaker 6 (26:21):
That's on.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
You don't give anything away, and you've got to be
able to be a cognizant of it. But for me,
more access the better. I want content, Baby, this is
what we're in the business.
Speaker 5 (26:29):
Hey, Peter, I want bar Peter.
Speaker 7 (26:32):
I will have to say whoever's on that red button
because there's a lot of cussing going on on.
Speaker 4 (26:36):
The side button.
Speaker 7 (26:39):
The mic is going to drop, like for at least
half the game.
Speaker 5 (26:42):
At least half the game.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
In my search for the biggest X factors going into
the twenty twenty four season, there could be some obvious answers.
You know, they can Kirk Cousins revitalize a Falcons franchise.
That's been stuck in a state of mediocrity since Matt
Ryan left. Is Isaiah Pachico ready to take the leap
and in year three be the one to cement case
as the first three Pizza World champions in NFL history?
Speaker 6 (27:06):
Or is it a guy like Gerrod.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
Mayo or Raheem Morris.
Speaker 6 (27:09):
We can go down the list throughout the next few weeks.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
I'm gonna giving you some less obvious names, names he
might not know, who could end up being the reason
the NFL season is written the way it is today.
We turn out west and we go to a gentleman
named Nick Sorenson.
Speaker 6 (27:25):
Okay, who is Nick Sorensen? That guy right there, that's
the new.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
Defensive coordinator of the NFC champion San Francisco forty nine Ers.
Speaker 6 (27:37):
Yes, the Niners, a.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
Team that's boasted one of the best defenses over the
course of a decade, a team that Bosa roster filled
with stars like Nick Bosa and Fred Warner and Teleanoah Hufanga.
That's a defense that's had defensive coaches turned NFL head
coaches like Robert Sala and Damiico Ryans in just the
past few years. That defense was in the middle of
the league, and despite a Super Bowl appearance last year,
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was viewed as average amongst the rest of the best.
That defense wasn't quite good enough for Kyle Shanahan's liking
last season, and it wasn't quite the one that Kyle
Shanahan wanted to bring back this year. So when they
fired Steve Wilkes at the end of the season, they
could have gone a million different ways.
Speaker 6 (28:18):
Bill Belichick's name was mentioned.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
Recently fired Chargers head coach Brandon Staley interviewed for the gig.
Speaker 6 (28:25):
The forty nine Ers took.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
A run at Steve Spagnolo, the Chiefs defensive quarter They
even acquired with the Jets about their defensive coordinator, Jeff Olbrick,
but in the end, Nick Sorenson was the choice. The
best team in the NFC, the one that seemingly everyone's picking.
Speaker 11 (28:41):
A return to the Super Bowl in New Orleans this year,
has a defense being run by a first time defensive
coordinator who isn't a fiery spark plug like Sala or
an NFL star like Demiko Ryans was, or a former
head coach in this league two times over like Steve Wilkes.
Speaker 6 (28:58):
So who is Sorenson well.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Nick Sorenson did play in the NFL ten years actually,
but he wasn't a household name. This guy earned everything
he ever got in the NFL. He played special teams
and nickel safety in one hundred and thirty one career
games with the Rams, the Jaguars, and some bad Browns teams.
Speaker 6 (29:21):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
After his playing career, Sorenson found his way to Seattle
just as the legion of Boom defense and that Seahawks
team was taking off, and he took it all in.
Speaker 6 (29:33):
Like a sponge.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
This guy was part of the fabric.
Speaker 6 (29:36):
First he coached legends like.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
Steve Houshka and Tyler Lockett on special teams, and then
he went on to coach Cam Chancellor and Richard Sherman
and Earl.
Speaker 6 (29:45):
Thomas on defense.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
In Seattle, he started off as a special team's assistant coordinator,
but eventually got all the way up to.
Speaker 6 (29:52):
Being the man who ran that defensive backs room.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
He coached the dbs and saw the Seahawks make the
playoffs year after year after year after year. But after
twenty twenty, he got a call to come to the
Jacksonville Jaguars. That call was from Urban Meyer, and Nick
Sorenson said Okay, I'm gonna take the leap.
Speaker 6 (30:10):
I'm gonna go with Urban from.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
The college game to the pro game, and he became
the special teams coordinator for the twenty twenty one Jaguars.
Speaker 6 (30:18):
Well, as we know, Urban Meyer was fired in December, and.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
So was the rest of the staff Sorenson included. So
San Francisco is the next stop. But it wouldn't be
as easy as finding a defined role with a staff
as loaded as Kyle Shanahan's was, so.
Speaker 6 (30:33):
He became a jack of all trades.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
He helped the linebackers in twenty twenty two when the
position coach, Johnny Holland was out dealing with cancer treatment,
and last season the title was officially Teams Passing Games Specialists,
which is as netlas as it gets, and he primarily
worked with the nickelbacks. You see, Nick Sorenson is by
no means a household name, but for the majority of
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the last twenty five years, this guy has been either
a player or coach in the NFL. The players seemed
thrilled that he's the one calling the shots on defense,
and Kyle Shanahan's been super positive about the hire. But
make no mistake, this isn't Bill Belichick, this isn't Steve Spagnolo,
this isn't even Brandon Staley, who, by the way, is
still on staff in the background as Sorenson is the
(31:17):
defensive coordinator. See as X factors go this season, Nick
Sorenson is right up there with the biggest names in
the business. He's a smashing success. We'll be talking about
the Niners deep in the January and he could very
well be a head coaching candidate slash head coach by
the time.
Speaker 6 (31:32):
We get to late January.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
If he's not a success, well, let's not quite go
there just yet. Nick Sorenson X factor, new defensive coordinator,
first year guy, Kyle Brent, you're next to me here
in New York. Your thoughts on the Nick Sorenson era
in San Francisco.
Speaker 6 (31:52):
Let's go right where you just said, let's not go.
It seems like a risk.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
It seems like a big risk, especially if Shanahan was
shooting for the moon and trying to get future Hall
of Fame coaches and he's going with a first time
guy in a pivotal season when they have to get
the defense back and elite. What is it about him
other than just Kyle likes his guys and he likes somebody.
He has a good history and a track record, like
this is a huge job in a huge season. The
resume is cool, it's interesting, but like it's not overwhelming.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
Yeah, and he's not firing Broomstone. Like he's not solid
flexing on the sidelines. That's not his thing. This is
a guy who speaks to the players, relates to the players.
The other coaches respond to him. Again, essentially coached the
nickelbacks last year for a Niners defense that wasn't outstanding, right,
and yet he's the higher One quick biographical note went
to Virginia Tech where he started off as a quarterback,
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but he was wally pipped when he got injured and
some other young kid took over. That guy was Michael
VICKI man.
Speaker 6 (32:44):
And never played quarterback again.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
That was kind of it, and he had to make
his way in a different way, and he ended up
being a special teams demon in the league. Okbar, you
gotta love these stories.
Speaker 7 (32:53):
That's a pretty cool biographical note right there. While he
pipped by Michael Vick that's kind of a badge. But
you know, I actually love this story. You know, these
types of stories I really fall in love with because
you know, I do believe in my career and in
my life, I've always felt that the best coaches are.
Speaker 5 (33:10):
Usually the ones you don't know a lot about.
Speaker 7 (33:12):
And when I say that, you talked about you know
him not necessarily being a household name, but those types
of players who have that type of pedigree, who come
from that type of you know, that background, they tend
to see the game differently. You know, I'm going to
basketball old reference. I'm thinking of Phil Jackson. Phil Jackson,
you know, wasn't the biggest name, household name. Yes he
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was a player in the NBA, but he was even
a better coach. And so for a guy like Nick Dornson,
I'm rooting for him because he has a way of
connecting with players. I'm sure that a lot of coaches
who have a lot of early success may not be
able because a lot of them wear egos, and so
for a guy like Nick Dornson may not have the ego.
Speaker 5 (33:51):
I'm thinking of.
Speaker 7 (33:52):
Rob Manusky was a position coach for a very long time,
was a special teamer and when he played in the
NFL and then became a very successful defensive coordinator, and
I think this, he might be on the same type
of track, And you know, I think of Rob Nusky.
I think about his ability to connect with players. So
I'm hoping this for Nick Sawnson. I'm hoping the forty
nine ers luck with this transition.
Speaker 3 (34:14):
I always like to Talkbar's point gauge just how well
known or popular a guy is, just with like, this
is the first time that if you're on a new
device or surface, if you will, you search his name,
so you're like you're.
Speaker 4 (34:26):
Getting the freshest responses.
Speaker 3 (34:28):
Apparently there's an Anaheim Ducks prospect named Nick Sorenson as well.
The searches are right there. They're level headed. So this
is how little we know about this guy in terms
of his career. But I kind of like it for
the forty nine ers and Peter. I think in this era,
coming off of the Olympics of athlete mental health and
kind of trying to touch every part of the game
(34:48):
and their lives, sounds like this could be an innovative fit,
and no one more innovative than Shanahan. Time now for
the preseason spotlight presented by Harbor Freight. Over the weekend,
you might have seen a clip circulating of liked up.
Patrick Mahomes, Well, if you missed it, we've got it.
Speaker 4 (35:08):
Take a listen.
Speaker 5 (35:13):
Oh dude, I didn't throw my pants on.
Speaker 10 (35:15):
I think anyone knows notices grab my pads my pants idiot.
Now dude got throw my pants on. They're just crazy
to me. How much music I don't know out here?
I know I'm getting old. I got listened to all
types of music too, I just don't know out here.
Speaker 6 (35:29):
I ain't never heard this song in my life.
Speaker 10 (35:31):
Greatness today all day long. You should see me some
ground beef on the stove. Dude, lay it out, marinate
a little bit, and then talking what about nine?
Speaker 5 (35:44):
Here we go baby taking it off.
Speaker 10 (35:52):
Sorry, guys, gotta run.
Speaker 4 (35:56):
That's all right. You gave us what we wanted.
Speaker 3 (35:58):
Patrick Mahomes, bar, where do you take us?
Speaker 5 (36:01):
Okay?
Speaker 7 (36:01):
First off, that was inconvenience as hell to to not
have your pads on. Like, let me tell you, like
this has happened to a lot of players. Like he's
got to now go into the locker room. He's got
to take the cleats off. He's got to go through
that whole process, go strip it down, load the pads in.
After he loads the pads in, then come put it
(36:23):
back on, put the cleats on.
Speaker 5 (36:24):
I mean, it's so annoying. But the part that stood
out to me was how he just going around like, yo,
I left my, I.
Speaker 3 (36:33):
Left my I think he wanted someone to excuse it
for practice, to be honest, Peter, I thought he was
just kind of like he was wanting any read to
be like, no, the son, you're good, you don't have
to practice, don't put him on.
Speaker 4 (36:42):
It's fine.
Speaker 6 (36:44):
Is it?
Speaker 2 (36:44):
Is it crazy that like, for all the content we
get and for all of the you know, focus on
Patrick Mahomes, Like he's not one of those guys where
I cringe and I'm like enough with Mahomes, Like it
hasn't gotten to that yet, And there are athletes that like, Okay,
here's another clip from this guy and he's performing for
the cameras and I'm good, I get the gist. Like,
I still find Mahomes incredible endearing, and that's maybe because
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I have a huge crush on him.
Speaker 6 (37:06):
But other than that, that's all I got. No, I'm
with you.
Speaker 1 (37:08):
I don't know why he's so concerned about his leg pads,
Like they're not gonna hit you in practice, not even.
Speaker 6 (37:13):
Allowed to hit you in games. Patrick, Oh, there we go.
So I also get.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
The impression that he's the kind of guy who walks
around just kind of talking to himself, like they say
the geniuses are always just muttering to themselves. I do
like that his version of cooking is putting some ground
beef on the stove, Like that is low level, million
dollar contrack, but that's who he is, and it's probably
ground chuck. It's like seventy percent lean, and I just
love it. It's I think that's who he is. He's
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not trying to be cool.
Speaker 4 (37:39):
There is nothing more relatable, though.
Speaker 3 (37:41):
The way he cooked the ground beef, Like that's how
you look when you're just like I'm just making my
kids taco meat like he was.
Speaker 4 (37:46):
The way he was doing his action was so perfect, and.
Speaker 3 (37:50):
That the cheese on the pasta, Like everybody not respond
that way to cheese on pasta.
Speaker 6 (37:54):
Don't forget the iceberg for those tacos.
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