April 22, 2025 • 33 mins
Hour Two of the Good Morning Football Podcast begins with hosts Jamie Erdahl, Kyle Brandt, Cody Kessler and Tom Pelissero answering several questions - Is this a great draft for quarterbacks? What’s the perfect fit for Shedeur Sanders? Former Green Bay Packers WR Donald Driver joins the show and talks about his early memories of Aaron Rodgers, Jordan Love’s ability to win a Super Bowl, and then he delivers a message to WR’s who expected to be drafted this week. NFL Draft prospect RB DJ Giddens from Kansas State joins the show and talks about his running style, and people comparing him to legendary RB Marcus Allen.
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
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Speaker 3 (00:15):
I'm Jamie eard All. This is Cody Kessler, former NFL quarterback.
We're in La.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Tom Belasaro already in Green Bay. He's practically moved in.
He's our NFL Network insider ahead of this week's draft.
Kyle Brent back in New York. But Kyle, what is
your plan for the rest of the week.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Well, my plan right now is the ponder one thing.
Do we think our friends that round Up sponsored and
NFL showed this week because of the word round and
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Because if that's true, if there are.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
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to I'm.
Speaker 4 (00:47):
Here for that. Tom.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Do you think the round Up sponsors because of the
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Speaker 5 (00:53):
I think that it's because if you take a look
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Speaker 2 (01:05):
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Speaker 4 (01:24):
Good Morning Football.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
That's right GMFB. Everybody two days away from the twenty
twenty five NFL Draft in Green Bay, which is why
we have to get set with the Packers field. They
are the host city, the host team, Kyle Brent, we
have a former, a legendary Packer coming on the show
this hour.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Are you looking forward to talking to our.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
Guest, Donald Driver? All day every day?
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Driver had a fun deal because he played with farm,
he played with Rogers.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
He's one of the all time Packers.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
I can't think of a lot of guys to talk
to draft week with the draft in green Bay, that
would be better than Donald Driver Number eighty.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
I love it. Can't wait for me to get in here,
all right.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
That's this hour GMFP plus we have a prospect running
back DJ Giddons coming on the show as well. But
first we start with our insider. He's just occupying a
box at this point today.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
We don't have to swipe to him. He's right there.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Tom Pellizero, give us all the goods on what the
Giants are focusing on ahead of.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
Thursday's first round Jamie.
Speaker 5 (02:15):
The thought within the league is that the Giants really
have two options here. One is best player available, whoever
Cleveland does not take the thinking being at number three,
Abdul Carter from Penn State, the edge rusher would be
that guy. Or they potentially could still draft a quarterback,
namely Shador Sanders from Colorado, who they have done as
much work on as any team has done on any
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prospect in this draft. They conducted a private workout last
week for Shador. They had been at his showcase, they'd
had him in on a visit, They've been at every
practice that was open, They've been to every game, They
have all the information. These are big time organizational decisions though,
that go all the way up to the ownership level.
So like a lot of teams, they're gaming out different
scenarios here. But they're also making the thought of, hey,
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if we make a commitment at number three to a quarterback,
we've got to have complete alignment of what exactly this
means for the organization. They already drafted or signed Russell Wilson,
rather they signed Jamis Winston. They have a couple of
veterans there that they can roll with. Potentially they can
maneuver later on in the second round, the third round,
wherever it might be to target a different quarterback. But
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if you like Shador Sanders and you believe he could
be a franchise quarterback, these are the moments where and
I talked to the former GM about it last night,
you just don't want to get cute. Do you think
this is the guy? Can this be a franchise quarterback? Well,
then value goes out the window. Take him at number
three and just do it. These are the decisions that
they've got to come to here. They're certainly going to
have different scenarios, So something surprising happens at number one,
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where we presume cam Ward will be the pick to
the Titans, or at number two, where the thinking is
Travis Hunter is going to be the pick. But if
those are the options, best player available, if I possibly
a duel carter or a quarterback most likely Shador Sanders,
those are going to be a really franchised turning type
of a decision the Giants have navigat.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Tom, I'm just focused on those words beneath you as
you're speaking.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
Greatness is on the clock. That's a team. But at
one point one year, we're going to say.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
NFL Draft chaos is on the clock, and I can't
wait until then. Ahead of the first round in Green
Bay Thursday, let's play a little game, shall we. It's
three and out on GMFB. Seattle General manager and president
of football Operations John Snyder told Seahawks dot Com quote,
I'd be careful when you hear people say this isn't
a great draft for quarterbacks. Cody, you are on Are
you on board with Snyder's comments and his assessment of
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this year's quarterback draft class.
Speaker 6 (04:31):
Yeah, I one hundred percent agree with Schnyder and one
of his quotes, he said, it really matters talking about
the quarterbacks with the team, the player and the quarterback,
meaning that the fit and the system that they go
to is very important at any level of play for
a quarterback, more important than anything else. In my opinion,
How many times have we seen guys struggle at one place,
not play well, things aren't working out, they get written off,
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and then they go elsewhere and have a change of scenery,
a new scheme, a new coaching staff, and then they
have success and they start playing at a higher level
guys like Sam Darnold, Gino Smith. I'll take it even
further back, Kurt Warner went from back and groceries to
the Greatest Show on tur with the Rams. Those guys
saw their careers turn around. But then the other side,
you see guys that are successful early on in their
careers at one place, they get traded, they go elsewhere,
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things don't work out, and then they can't duplicate that
same magic. It happens both ways with the other thing,
and the most important thing in my opinion that Schneider
said is that it matters when you are going to
acquire them. Pertaining to the quarterbacks in this draft, this
is not a top heavy quarterback draft. We're not going
to see six quarterbacks taken in the first twelve picks
like we saw a year ago.
Speaker 4 (05:30):
I promise you that.
Speaker 6 (05:31):
But this is one of the biggest mid round quarterbacks
with the talent that I've seen in recent memory. And
I truly believe it's going to be a frenzy from
rounds two to five, maybe rounds three to five, and
once one guy goes, it's going to start being a
domino effect where these other teams are going to want
to get in.
Speaker 7 (05:46):
So yes, I agree one hundred percent with Schnyder.
Speaker 6 (05:48):
It's not a top heavy quarterback draft, but that doesn't
mean that there's still not a lot of very good
quarterbacks in this draft.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
Yeah, and listen, I talked about this earlier in the show,
and I talked about it in broad strokes, that the
quarterbacks will go and years where they don't are very
very very rare outliers.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
So we start to see things.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
One of the guys we've talked about a lot is
Jalen Milroe, and everyone said, oh my god, he's attending
the draft.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
Can that really be true?
Speaker 1 (06:10):
He comes on the show a couple of weeks ago
and says, yeah, I'm gonna be there, and everyone's like,
but hold on, hold on.
Speaker 4 (06:15):
The mock drafts don't have you going in the first round,
So why would you go there?
Speaker 1 (06:19):
Because the mock drafts aren't right, guys, They're never right.
I'm started to look at the chess board. I think
Milroe is going to go in the first round, and
that's not me With sources, you know me, I just
kind of go with my instincts and try to follow
the stories. I think someone like him is going to
go in the first round, and I think it's going
to be surprising. I think the team's going to be surprising.
Everything's going to be surprising about it. But that's what
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the first round is at this point. At some point
a few five, six, seven years ago, I feel like
just the lust for first round quarterbacks went absolutely nuts.
And I think something has to do with the idea
that the Chiefs took Mahomes when no one really loved
them that much, and then we've had other cases like
that too. I think you try to grab lightning in
a bottle and in the first round on quarterback. If
it doesn't work, well, screw it. Then we'll try again,
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and in a couple of years, I think there's going
to be more than suspected. It wouldn't surprise me a
five go in the first round. It would heavily surprise
me if only a couple did, which is a lot
of the mocks say.
Speaker 5 (07:11):
Tom, So, let's talk about a draft in which you've
got a shorter, undersized quarterback that people don't know is
he going to fit into the culture. You got a
gunslinger type who's just been inaccurate. You don't know if
you're gonna be able to harness the playmaking ability. He
got a pretty good quarterback who just threw a ton
of interceptions as last year, and you got a really rare,
dynamic runner who some people are talking about should he
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just go and play a different position. I'm not talking
about this year's draft. I'm talking about the twenty eighteen draft.
Those guys became Baker Mayfield, Sam Darnold, Josh Allen, and
Lamar Jackson all landed in the correct spot that was
not regarded as a great quarterback class, and there were
bumps along the way. Baker Mayfield had to get a
second act, a third act down in Tampa before he
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ends up replacing Tom Brady and taking over that franchise
with Sam Darnold. He's bounced around, He's been on four
or five different teams, but now is in CA That'll
just got paid coming off his best season. Obviously, Josh
Allen's an MVP. Lamar Jackson is an MVP. One of
those guys have in common. They had a plan for him.
Buffalo had a very clear vision for how Josh Allen
was going to succeed. Baltimore clearly had a very good
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vision for Lamar Jackson. There was one other quarterback taking
in the first round, Josh Rosen, whose entire coaching staff
got fired like six months after he had been drafted.
That's a bad context. I'm not saying Josh Rosen would
be a great player right now, but the context of it,
which is what Cody said mentioned from Schneider's quote, it's
all about where you get him, what's the plan for him.
That's where really fascinated to see, because you've got talent
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in this draft, but if they go to the wrong place,
it's not going to end.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
Well.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Oh, it's perfect, Tom, that's a perfect jump for our
second down. Let's go, perfect plan, perfect fit, picture, perfect
team for Schadeur Sanders.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
That's our second down, Tom.
Speaker 4 (08:53):
What you got?
Speaker 5 (08:56):
I would say the perfect fit in my mind for
Shadeur Sanders is Pittsburgh. He was on the Insiders with
a right after his visit, literally right after his visit
to the Steelers from the Pittsburgh Airport. When I asked
him about Mike Tomlin and the Steelers, he just had
this big grint and just said Mike was so cool.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
It reminds me and.
Speaker 5 (09:15):
My dad their values are very similar. I could see
him in a scenario like that, where you've got playmakers
around him, you're going to have a really good defense,
and you've got a guy at Mason Rudolph who at
minimum you can play with in the short term until
you feel like Shador is ready. That all lines up
to me. I don't see New Orleans being a great
fit based upon the profile of quarterbacks that Kellen Moore
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has worked with in the past. Certainly the Giants we've
talked about it ad nauseum could end up taking Shador Sanders,
we would see exactly how that would fit. But in
my mind, Pittsburgh is really really unique. Here Shador Sanders
in a Steelers uniform.
Speaker 4 (09:52):
That's a fascinating picture to put in your mind.
Speaker 6 (09:54):
Okay, the perfect fit for Shador Standers, in my opinion,
is the Las Vegas Raiders. Now, let the record show
I'm not saying that the Raiders are going to draft
Shador Sanders at the six overalls.
Speaker 7 (10:04):
I think they take Ashon Genty.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
I think that's who they have to go with.
Speaker 6 (10:07):
But if I am Shador Sanders and I'm looking at
teams in the first round who need a future franchise quarterback,
the Raiders Samir at.
Speaker 7 (10:15):
The top of that list for multiple reasons.
Speaker 6 (10:17):
The first one being is I've talked about Shador needing
some time to develop, right, he can go there with
Gino Smith being the starter, he can sit behind him.
We saw Geno and his career, He's had to overcome adversity,
work his tail off. He played for Pete Carroll in
Seattle where he had his turnaround.
Speaker 7 (10:30):
I think that can help Shadoor learn from.
Speaker 6 (10:32):
Him, understand what it takes to be successful in the NFL,
and he can learn a lot and absorb all of
that from Geno Smith.
Speaker 7 (10:38):
Also, that gives time for John.
Speaker 6 (10:40):
Spike Tech and the Raiders to build the roster around
him before he has to take over as a starter.
The other thing, and the most obvious, is you get
to play for Pete Carroll, who I think, and i'd
be biased as a former Trojan, is the greatest coach
of all time. I love the way that he coaches.
He's seventy four years old, he acts like a young guy.
He runs around and he gets his players excited. I've
heard nothing but great things about him. But the other
coach on the staft that I think is more important
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is Chip Kelly.
Speaker 7 (11:02):
Right when you hear Chip Kelly.
Speaker 6 (11:03):
You think the Oregon jury right throwing the ball sixty
times a game, the running gun the West Coast to
spread all the pressures on the quarterback shoulders.
Speaker 7 (11:10):
That's not the case anymore.
Speaker 6 (11:11):
Go back and watch the tape at Ohio State, watch
his film when he was there as the offensive coordinator
a year ago and they won the national championship. They
ran a true West Coast Pro style, balanced type of offense.
They had two one thousand yard rushers. They took the
pressure off of Will Howard shoulders, so we can go
out there and pray, play freely. That didn't happen for
Shador Sanders when he was in college. It was the
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exact opposite. They were six in the country at Colorado
as a passing offense. They were one hundred and thirty
fourth out of one hundred and thirty four teams. In
rushing offense, all of the pressure was on his shoulders.
That's not ideal for a young quarterback. So I think
it would be awesome to see him paired up with
Chip Kelly. And then the last one, the guy we
just talked about dancing around at Coachella is Tom Brady
is a minority owner now the Las Vegas Raiders. He
has been a mentor to Shardor in the pass helped
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him out in high school. Look, I don't think the
Raiders draft shardor Sanders six overall, but pertaining to the
question and second down of three and out, if I
make quarterback in this draft and I'm looking at these
teams that need a future franchise, I think the Raiders
would be at the top of that list.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
All right, I agree with you, and I have three
teams down and the Raiders are one of them. Listen,
Tom says Pittsburgh, and that all fits as well. If
Shadur wants to show up, make a splash and start
really quickly.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
Okay, well, maybe.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
It's Cleveland, maybe it's Pittsburgh one of those places. But
if you want to sit and know that you're gonna sit,
and all the glitz and the style and the fame
just sits aside, and your dad's not saying anything, and
you're not saying anything, you go someplace like the Raiders
where Gino is the starter and there's no debate the
other team. I have the La Rams, same deal. You're
gonna play for Sean McVay. You're gonna behind Matthew Stafford.
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I think the writing is on the wall with Matthew Stafford.
He's coming back, of course, and he's a great player,
and he's not done. But you're telling me that there's
not be any kind of succession plan in place. And
I can see McVeigh in the Rams, who don't pick
until twenty six, being crafty with their picks. Then the
last one I have, I mean Dallas Cowboys number twelve.
This is not you didn't ask me who's the best
pick for Dallas. I'm talking about for Schadure to go there,
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to put the star in the helmet, to sit behind Dak,
to have a complete Jerry gasm across the NFL. The
fact that they drafted Sanders start the conversations about Dion's
gonna replace Schottenheimer after one year. I mean, this would
be never mind for Shader. For us, this would be
the best thing. Okay, I'm thinking about us, Tom, That's
what I want. I thought the Cowboys should have drafted
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quarterback last year. I wanted them to take Pennix last year.
Let's try something new and let's exit from the super expensive,
not worth the price Dak experience and move on to
something fun, new and fresh. It's gonna sit for one year.
I say, Dallas is my number one choice. I don't
care what anyone else says about it. I was asked
a question, I say, Dallas, you got the church giggles?
Speaker 3 (13:46):
All right?
Speaker 4 (13:47):
This?
Speaker 2 (13:47):
I thought the third question was perfect for Kyle.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
That question was perfect for Kyle. Well done. Let's move down.
Let's move on to third down.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
The Eagles have sign center Cam Jurgens to a new
four year contract extension that will put him with the
team through twenty twenty nine. Now, of course, you have
to remember Cam Jurgis was freaking out that Kelsey retired.
And who's gonna be the originator of the tush push.
It's Cam Jurgens. He's the new guy, all right. Cam
Jurgens first season Pro Bowl is first big time purchase.
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He has a decision to make. All right, He's got
a contract extension. What's he going to do with that money?
He claims he's gonna buy tsa pre check. That's his
first big time purchase. Okay, doesn't matter the value or
how long, it doesn't matter the efficiency. That's the decision
that he makes, is Cam Jurgens, Tom, what do you
make of this decision for Cam Jurgens and his TSA
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purchase pre check pre check purchase.
Speaker 5 (14:40):
I like the subtlety of it. Okay, you're an offensive lineman,
You're just supposed to blend in. Your name doesn't get
mentioned a whole lot unless something goes very wrong or
you end up being a reality TV star like his
Center was that preceded him. For Cam Jurgens, this is
a mild purchase. It's a small type of a thing,
but it's gonna make his life just a little bit
better as opposed to trying to jump to something. I'm
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gonna buy this house in this car just because you
wanted to improve your life a tiny little bit here
to me, that says Cam Jurgens still is keeping the
main thing, the main thing, Kyle.
Speaker 7 (15:12):
Yeah, this is I like this money well spent.
Speaker 6 (15:14):
I don't remember the person I was before I learned
about TSA prechecking. I mean that when you're in the
NFL in the off season, you do a lot of traveling,
right You'll travel back home, you'll fly to go train,
you maybe go on vacation. You spend a lot of
time in the airport, which means you spend a lot
of time in the security line. So when I was
at the time my girlfriend at the time my wife. Now,
we were traveling I think from Jacksonville back home, and
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she had signed up for TSA PreCheck without telling me.
But at the time, when you have pre check and
you purchase the tickets, she would handle all the travel
and all of that. Everyone in your party got to
do it as well. So we walk over and she
goes to the TSA PreCheck line. She says, Hey, we're
going to that line. I said, there is no line.
She said, exactly, it's TSA PreCheck.
Speaker 7 (15:51):
We go straight to the front.
Speaker 6 (15:52):
I'm like, okay, I felt like we were doing something illegal.
We went over there, handle letty our tickets. Go straight
to the front. Kyle, I didn't have to take my
shoes off, I didn't get my socks dirty, and the airport,
I didn't have to take my jacket off, kept my laptop
in my backpack.
Speaker 7 (16:04):
It was the best thing ever.
Speaker 6 (16:05):
So the next three or four trips, we were doing
the same thing over and no rest said, I'll give
you my card, purchase the tickets. We're going TSA PreCheck. Right,
you walk to everybody else thinking that you're big bad
and everyone else is in line at that normal security
check out, right. So then we get to about the
fourth trip. Well, I find out that they change the rules.
We walk up hand the tickets to the lady and
she says, I'm sorry, both of you have to have
pre check. I said, no, no, no, my wife has pre check.
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We're girlfriend at the time. I am a part or
with her. I get to go in for pre check.
She said no, we changed that rule.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
My heart dropped. I was shattered. I looked at her
and it.
Speaker 6 (16:35):
Was one of those moments where I said, you just
go go ahead. I'll wait, and she's like, no, no, no,
I'll stay with you in line.
Speaker 7 (16:40):
I said, no, you go.
Speaker 6 (16:41):
You would have thought it was Jack and Rose on
the Titanic saying hey, I'll see on the other side.
She goes through, skips away all happy. I wait in
line for about an hour and get through done, defeated, crushed.
Speaker 4 (16:51):
I walked through.
Speaker 6 (16:51):
She's sitting there with her AirPods on, watching her show,
drinking a Starbucks and eating a bagel, waving to me,
and I just went through an hour of pain. The
very next thing I did, Cam Jurgen, a smart man
was going by tsa pre check.
Speaker 7 (17:03):
I will never go.
Speaker 4 (17:04):
Back to those lines.
Speaker 6 (17:04):
If you haven't done it, or if you have done before,
please go and do it.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
I couldn't love this story more. Sixty eight million dollar
deal and he's treating himself to a seventy eight dollars privilege.
Speaker 7 (17:15):
And it is a privilege.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
Because it affords you something that we used to have
in this country before the Internet and Instagram, something called dignity.
And I don't want to take my shoes off at LaGuardia.
I don't want to do it at JFK. I feel undignified,
I feel filthy. I don't want to stand in those
two little yellow footprints in that booth in my arms out.
Speaker 4 (17:33):
I hate it.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
I feel like a lab animal or something. I don't
want to do it. So I'm going to pay that money.
And it's interesting because you know Cam Jurgens, when he
travels with the team, he doesn't have to go through
all that. The teams go through a different protocol to
they airplane. It's not about that, So you know what
that tells me. This is about his private time, this
is about his family time. And without googling, I'd be
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willing to bet Cam Jurgens has children, and when you're
dragging those kids and their little roller bags with the
lightning McQueen logo on, I'm like, just get me to
the bleeping plane. Not to mention folks, Cam Jergens is
three hundred pounds. The three hundred pound club is a
different deal with flying commercial. They have a whole different
set of operations.
Speaker 4 (18:14):
I see them.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
I sympathize he could buy himself.
Speaker 4 (18:18):
A humby a lake house. Some on that nonsense. Just
this seventy eight dollars.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
I will say one thing, Cam Global Entry costs one
hundred and twenty dollars and also gets you pre check.
That's where the value is. So get the Global Entry package.
Leave your shoes on like a decent human being. I
could not be happier for you. I hope I run
into you at the airport. I'll high five to you
in the pre check line.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
How did nobody come up with the fact that TSA
pre check? For a time, people thought they were cheating
the system. I would think many people thought that they
would want to do away with TSA PreCheck, that everyone.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
Should have to follow the same rules. TSA PreCheck is
the tush push of security lines. At the airport. Everybody,
come on, what are we doing? How did we not
get here? Kyle?
Speaker 2 (19:03):
I would have thought that you have gotten us there
with TSA. PreCheck is the tush push of security at
the airport.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
I'll tell you what pisses me off about PreCheck.
Speaker 4 (19:11):
You get this PreCheck, You go.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
To the airport, you sign all these forms, you sign
away everything, you pay, and then you show up to
pre check and there's these snobs in the air who
do clear and they're like the super super high end
and they're like, oh, pre checks, that's the siren clear
and take all your privacy. It's different. It's totally different. Tom,
there's a better line and they look down on you.
Speaker 4 (19:31):
I don't appreciate it.
Speaker 5 (19:32):
Whatever they invent next, I would take the next level up. Okay,
Like whatever it is, I fly enough, I will pay
whatever it costs. Cam Jurgens looks like he goes on
vacation to Omaha. He doesn't need global entry. He barely
needs anything. You can drive a tractor there. I need
everything that I can get.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
Clearly, the beef jerky business is thriving for Cam Jurggens
because he's got his own beef jerky company Beef Jerky.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
If anybody wants to go check it out.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
I like that that Tom is insulting Jurgens for going
to Omaha while doing television from Green Bay, Wisconsin.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
Where he's starting my career.
Speaker 4 (20:04):
Rob Trotter.
Speaker 5 (20:05):
Direct Flight, Baby, Direct flight from Minneapolis.
Speaker 4 (20:08):
Right here. Now you lad over in Detroit. You know
you did.
Speaker 5 (20:15):
Walking straight off the plane. You're in the car in
three minutes. There's nothing. There's eight gates in one restaurant.
It's fantastical.
Speaker 4 (20:22):
Love flying to Green.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
Ball perfect, Kim, Jurgen's well done.
Speaker 8 (20:29):
I let it Gay, Donald river Rider gets it.
Speaker 6 (20:35):
I do it down the sideline, still going. Donald Driver
from a touchdown.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Z got a fan touch down.
Speaker 4 (20:48):
I'm doing I do it, but it Love? Let it Gang,
I do it. I'm doing. I do it but to love.
I do it for the love, but it Gang.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
Welcome back to g MF.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
You have to imagine if there were physical pillars, many
of which held up Lambeau, this fall name and our
guests on this show would be one of the group
that holds that building up, and the history that the
Packers have is not said without Donald Driver. He is
a four time pro bowler, a super Bowl forty five champion,
and he's our friend of the show.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
Jim McPhee, what's going on? Donald?
Speaker 7 (21:20):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (21:20):
Not much. Good to see you all.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
Great to see you.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
As I just mentioned, fourteen seasons in the NFL, perhaps
most importantly for Packers fans, all of which were spent
wearing a Green Bay jersey. But besides your playing career,
you have, your heart is in Green Bay. How amazing
is it that the NFL Draft is there this week?
Speaker 4 (21:39):
No, it's so truly amazing.
Speaker 8 (21:41):
I think that's what everybody wanted to see, and now
we have it firsthand, and no one really knows the
area as well as we do as players. But it's
an iconic, historic place to be and so I was
blessed to play fourteen years there and some people don't
get that opportunity. But it's a place that's going to
be exciting to see the draft come there. I just
fund it because I said, you know, I wish my
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son would have been getting drafted this year because it'd
have been pretty cool go back home where he was
born and raised. But he still has two years left,
so we'll see what happens.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
Oh man, we got him on the big board.
Speaker 4 (22:12):
He's got all the mock drafts are going to have driver.
I love this. I love the ear on the show.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
So many years watching you, including Donald way back five
six o seven, we look at the Aaron Rodgers that
everybody watches and talks about now, and you were there
for the origin story when he got drafted controversially to
Green Bay. What are your early memories, your first memories
of Rogers joining the Packers.
Speaker 4 (22:35):
That he was elite. I think that was approven fact.
He proved that, you know, weekend and week out.
Speaker 8 (22:39):
I think his first rookie year, he kind of just
torched our defense in practice and we kind of and
you know, normally second team goal against our first team defense,
and he kind of lit it up. And then I
think we really saw when he played we played Dallas,
Brett gets injured, were playing Dallas in Dallas, and he almosts.
Speaker 4 (22:55):
Back to win that game.
Speaker 8 (22:56):
And I think at that point we knew that this
guy's career was going to be bright.
Speaker 5 (22:59):
Transitions from Hall of Fame caliber quarterbacks are never easy. Donald, luckily,
as only do it like once every couple of decades
here from far to Rogers. You lived through that back
in seven and eight then a number of years later,
it's from Rogers to Jordan Love. Do you believe Jordan
Love can do the same thing those other guys did,
win a Super Bowl, win MVPs, become that caliber of
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Hall of Fame type quarterback.
Speaker 8 (23:24):
Yeah, I think I think you can. I think that
it was approved fact to be able to say the
Packers in the last whatever.
Speaker 4 (23:30):
Twenty years have only had three quarterbacks.
Speaker 8 (23:32):
It's truly amazing, right, I mean to go from you know,
Brett Farv to Anon Rodgers and now to Doing Love.
Speaker 4 (23:37):
Doing Love proved it.
Speaker 8 (23:38):
I mean, first year as a starring quarterback, take him
to the NFC Championship game, he loses that, then get
to get into the postseason again next year.
Speaker 4 (23:45):
I mean, sky's a limit.
Speaker 8 (23:46):
The guy is still young, still having a young group
of receivers, the team is young. I think it's just
an opportunity to take it to the next level. And
they're just missing a small piece and you know, we
got to figure out what that is. And I think
you know Matt's going to do that in this draft
as well.
Speaker 6 (24:00):
Don you were a seventh round pick out of Alcorn State.
You turn that into a fourteen your NFL career all
with the Green Bay Packers, might I add, which is
very impressive of your their all time leading receiver. What's
your message to some of these young NFL hopefuls that
might go on that seventh round, or go on drafted,
or go a little bit later than they had anticipated.
Speaker 4 (24:17):
Opportunities. I think that's the fun part.
Speaker 8 (24:19):
I mean me coming from HBCU, I think a lot
of people felt like.
Speaker 4 (24:22):
We didn't play against the talent.
Speaker 8 (24:23):
But when you look at some of the greatest players
that have played at HBCUs and now play that play
in the NFL, they all Hall of famers, right, And
so this is a proven fact that you know, if
you get.
Speaker 4 (24:32):
The opportunity, you know you have to make the best
of it. And for me, that was it. You know,
I felt like I should have been.
Speaker 8 (24:37):
Drafted high in that year, in ninety nine draft, but
unfortunately I didn't.
Speaker 4 (24:42):
And so you know, there's only one.
Speaker 8 (24:43):
Guy that has more stat sen yards than me and
his name is tore Hope. And so that tails you
right there, that you know backwards, you got to move
forward on opportunities, and this was my opportunity.
Speaker 4 (24:54):
And you nailed it.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
Of course, it's a crazy thing. With the Packers. They
have not drafted a wide receiver in the first round
since O two.
Speaker 4 (25:01):
It's been twenty three years.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
Why is that and you think that can change this year?
Speaker 4 (25:06):
I think it's always been we built in house, right.
Speaker 8 (25:08):
I think you look at the channel level, guys come
in and have this opportunity, and guys play well.
Speaker 4 (25:12):
Right. For myself was one of those guys.
Speaker 8 (25:14):
You got Robert Ferguson, you get drafted, you got jvaon Walk,
you got Terry Lee, I mean everybody. It just happens,
and so the package just feel like we've always built
it in house and this has always been their tradition.
I don't know if that changes this year or not,
but we will see. I think we have a bunch
of young receivers that can step up and feel those boards.
Speaker 4 (25:33):
But you know, to this.
Speaker 8 (25:35):
Point, I think a lot of people still question have
they done that? Who's the number one receiver? And we're
hoping that we can get that in that locker room.
If not, then you got to go in the draft
and get it.
Speaker 3 (25:45):
Donald. Can you help settle something for me?
Speaker 2 (25:46):
I am born and raised in Minnesota, a native Vikings fan.
Memories of you coming to the building.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
We know the history. I think the NFC.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
North has the best rivalry across all four teams. What
were the rivalries like for you when you were playing
in Green Bay? And can you compare it to now
because the Lions are having a moment now when we're
constantly trying to make an argument for the Bears, take
us back maybe to your experience Packers team hate that
they have for other teams, and then what are you
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seeing now within the division?
Speaker 8 (26:17):
No, I think you know, we've always called it the
Black and Blue Division for a reason. Right, it doesn't
matter what the record is. Every time we play each other,
it's a straight battle. And so we've proven that, you know,
year in a year out, and so the practice have
always been at the top. And you see Detroit last
year proven that they're they're stepping up to that plate.
I think it's going to be Chicago is always going
to fall short every single year, and then Minnesota, you
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got to give them credit, stepped up. But you know,
I think it's you know, you got to keep the
pieces together to make the run. And so we hope
that we can get back on top and win the
Central and then at that point, you guys can just
sign and take them back seats to what we do.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
That was perfect.
Speaker 4 (26:57):
Perfect.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
So the next thing I want to ask you was
more about your family. So I too have daughters, our
girl family. This is something that you and I have
in common. You are an advocate for youth sports and empowerment,
especially knowing that you have daughters within your family. You
have been named Chief Motivation Officer for BSN Sports Surge program.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
What is this about?
Speaker 4 (27:19):
Tell it?
Speaker 2 (27:20):
Could you tell us about the future that you have
with this group?
Speaker 4 (27:24):
Yeah, this is an amazing program.
Speaker 8 (27:25):
Surge is going on to that first year anniversary and
with that they made me the chief Motivation officer really
to empower women to play sports.
Speaker 4 (27:32):
As you know, me having two daughters and.
Speaker 8 (27:34):
Then also having a sun You know, I can talk
to my son any kind of way.
Speaker 4 (27:38):
And he understands and he moves on.
Speaker 8 (27:40):
Sometimes you have to talk to your daughters in a
different way and you have to really sit down and
educate them. I think sometimes as men, we think we
have the resources that we need, but sometimes we don't.
And so SURGE is actually having this the resources now right.
We want to empower grocery standsports, lead a healthy life
and then the back end of this. It's a free tool,
right that we can help you educate and develop coaches
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that they can understand how to coach women in sports
so that young women don't get pushed out of sports
at a very young age.
Speaker 4 (28:07):
I mean everyone that we.
Speaker 8 (28:09):
Know when girls get to pushed out of sports because
of the coach, and it's not because they don't have
a love for the game anymore. Seventy two percent males
are coaches and coaching women's sport, and so have the
final way to be able to move forward with that
and teach these coaches how to have these heart to
heart conversation with these young women so that they don't
get pushed out of sports at a very young age.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
It's a great cause and you're a great spokes Before
it's surge by BSN Sports.
Speaker 4 (28:34):
I love that Donald.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
Before you go, we have one last question about ball
and specifically pickleball. Dude, you love it, You're playing it,
It's all over your social What is it about Donald
Driver and pickleball?
Speaker 4 (28:46):
This love affair that's going on that I can I
can still go professional in the sport.
Speaker 8 (28:52):
You know, I think so many people playing this game now,
you know, I think the football thing is over for me.
I think I am not trying to go back and
play at all for any of that. I love challenging
my son, but I think the fun part about this
is that I get to play this game and doesn't
matter of what age group you are, you can be
the young you guess are the oldest, and UH plays
game for a very long time. I realized that it
really brings families together. UH, and this has really had
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brought our family together. My wife doesn't play golf as
much as I do, but this is what one game
she does.
Speaker 4 (29:19):
Love to play.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
Excellence bringing marriages together, and you're continuing to bring the
heat within the NFC North. Donald Driver for everybody, thank
you so much for coming on and setting the stage
before Lambeaus the NFL Draft.
Speaker 4 (29:32):
Thank you all so much.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
Donald Driver. Oh my gosh, look at them go.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
Up the middle.
Speaker 4 (29:44):
Kiddicks Kennedy open field breaking.
Speaker 6 (29:47):
Tackles again, kidding, praise Knicks.
Speaker 4 (29:50):
He's got his eyes. And so for the touchdown, it's
getting DJ. That's my DJ.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
That's a touchdown, Kansas steak. Oh god, doggy touch down.
Speaker 4 (30:12):
That's awesome.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
Running through Manhattan, Kansas and he runs right to our
show right here. It is Kansas State running back and
NFL prospect d Jay Giddens.
Speaker 4 (30:22):
What's up? DJ?
Speaker 7 (30:22):
House Man?
Speaker 9 (30:25):
Everything good?
Speaker 4 (30:26):
Can't good? Playing good?
Speaker 1 (30:28):
And I wouldn't complain if I was you either, I'd
complained if I had to tackle you. Though we just
saw in the montage you got this combination. You're definitely
an angry runner, but you got the shake too. For
everybody watching who loves your game and might want to
have you join their team, how would you describe your
running stop?
Speaker 9 (30:46):
I say, well, first, I say I'm a sure Dawn Beck.
You know what I'm saying. I want to focus more
on catching the ball. But you know last season, I
say I'm more of an in between tackles from the outside,
a little bit contact balance. I'm not scared to hear somebody,
So yeah.
Speaker 3 (31:07):
All right, DJ. This next question is very important.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
This is like if you tell somebody, oh, I don't
eat meat, or like, you know, something very triggering for
people who was a player a running back when you
were growing up that you watched closely and you tried
to mind it. We're talking any NFL running back, a
guy that you loved and you channel when you.
Speaker 9 (31:24):
Play off the back, I say, Emms Smith like nice,
I was a dask Cowboy fan growing up, so that's
somebody I was always looking at when I was playing
pee wee and all that.
Speaker 5 (31:38):
Did take me back to high school. We're playing varsity.
I believe to your junior year, you're a zero star
war crew. You were ready to go to community college
until you get a call from Kansas State. Can you
take me back to that moment of finding out that
Kansas State was an option to kind of how that
shaped your journey since?
Speaker 4 (31:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (31:56):
So, so, like you said, I really start playing varsity
to my junior year football high school. So it starts
in my senior year, and I ain't had no offers
going into my senior year. So during the senior season,
that's when I got Butler, and I'm finna go to Butler.
I went on an official visit and everything, and then
Kennas State they hit me up. I wanted to take that,
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take that chance with me. I ain't had no other
offers and really just I ain't going no visits none
because it's right after COVID, So I'm just trusting.
Speaker 4 (32:26):
The process and it.
Speaker 9 (32:28):
Really just once I got on campus, then it was
just it's just going from.
Speaker 4 (32:32):
There now, did y'all.
Speaker 7 (32:34):
I'm a former USC Trojan.
Speaker 6 (32:36):
I've heard a few people say that watching your game
film reminds them of a former Trojan and Hall of
Famer Marcus Allen. What does it feel like to be
compared to the great Marcus Allen?
Speaker 4 (32:45):
I mean it feels good.
Speaker 9 (32:46):
Like I always tell people, I want to have my
own running style. But you know, like the reality of
it is like if you getting compared to to certain
like great great players like that, that must mean something.
You must be doing something right. So yeah, man, I
like it. So I just gotta keep going.
Speaker 4 (33:04):
Oh there he is.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
Look at we got the highlights right next to you.
Speaker 4 (33:07):
Look you look good right.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
Now on TVDJ, it's you and Mark's even throwing the ball. Listen,
this guy runs a four four three. He had three
thousand yards in college and imagine this. He did it
for one college program only.
Speaker 4 (33:22):
DJ.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
We love you coming on the show. We are rooting
for you. We are fans of yours. We cannot wait
to see you play pro ball. Go get him, man.
Speaker 9 (33:28):
Well, definitely appreciate you.
Speaker 4 (33:30):
Stay healthy.
Speaker 7 (33:30):
DJ, Thanks, appreciate you.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
That's DJ Giddons, Jamie here at all, we love him,
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Tom Belasaro already in Green Bay. He's practically moved in.
He's our NFL Network insider ahead of this week's draft.
Kyle Brent back in New York. But Kyle, what is
your plan for the rest of the week.
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Good Morning Football.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
That's right GMFB. Everybody two days away from the twenty
twenty five NFL Draft in Green Bay, which is why
we have to get set with the Packers field. They
are the host city, the host team, Kyle Brent, we
have a former, a legendary Packer coming on the show
this hour.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Are you looking forward to talking to our.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
Guest, Donald Driver? All day every day?
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Driver had a fun deal because he played with farm,
he played with Rogers.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
He's one of the all time Packers.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
I can't think of a lot of guys to talk
to draft week with the draft in green Bay, that
would be better than Donald Driver Number eighty.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
I love it. Can't wait for me to get in here,
all right.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
That's this hour GMFP plus we have a prospect running
back DJ Giddons coming on the show as well. But
first we start with our insider. He's just occupying a
box at this point today.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
We don't have to swipe to him. He's right there.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Tom Pellizero, give us all the goods on what the
Giants are focusing on ahead of.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
Thursday's first round Jamie.
Speaker 5 (02:15):
The thought within the league is that the Giants really
have two options here. One is best player available, whoever
Cleveland does not take the thinking being at number three,
Abdul Carter from Penn State, the edge rusher would be
that guy. Or they potentially could still draft a quarterback,
namely Shador Sanders from Colorado, who they have done as
much work on as any team has done on any
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prospect in this draft. They conducted a private workout last
week for Shador. They had been at his showcase, they'd
had him in on a visit, They've been at every
practice that was open, They've been to every game, They
have all the information. These are big time organizational decisions though,
that go all the way up to the ownership level.
So like a lot of teams, they're gaming out different
scenarios here. But they're also making the thought of, hey,
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if we make a commitment at number three to a quarterback,
we've got to have complete alignment of what exactly this
means for the organization. They already drafted or signed Russell Wilson,
rather they signed Jamis Winston. They have a couple of
veterans there that they can roll with. Potentially they can
maneuver later on in the second round, the third round,
wherever it might be to target a different quarterback. But
(03:19):
if you like Shador Sanders and you believe he could
be a franchise quarterback, these are the moments where and
I talked to the former GM about it last night,
you just don't want to get cute. Do you think
this is the guy? Can this be a franchise quarterback? Well,
then value goes out the window. Take him at number
three and just do it. These are the decisions that
they've got to come to here. They're certainly going to
have different scenarios, So something surprising happens at number one,
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where we presume cam Ward will be the pick to
the Titans, or at number two, where the thinking is
Travis Hunter is going to be the pick. But if
those are the options, best player available, if I possibly
a duel carter or a quarterback most likely Shador Sanders,
those are going to be a really franchised turning type
of a decision the Giants have navigat.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Tom, I'm just focused on those words beneath you as
you're speaking.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
Greatness is on the clock. That's a team. But at
one point one year, we're going to say.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
NFL Draft chaos is on the clock, and I can't
wait until then. Ahead of the first round in Green
Bay Thursday, let's play a little game, shall we. It's
three and out on GMFB. Seattle General manager and president
of football Operations John Snyder told Seahawks dot Com quote,
I'd be careful when you hear people say this isn't
a great draft for quarterbacks. Cody, you are on Are
you on board with Snyder's comments and his assessment of
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this year's quarterback draft class.
Speaker 6 (04:31):
Yeah, I one hundred percent agree with Schnyder and one
of his quotes, he said, it really matters talking about
the quarterbacks with the team, the player and the quarterback,
meaning that the fit and the system that they go
to is very important at any level of play for
a quarterback, more important than anything else. In my opinion,
How many times have we seen guys struggle at one place,
not play well, things aren't working out, they get written off,
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and then they go elsewhere and have a change of scenery,
a new scheme, a new coaching staff, and then they
have success and they start playing at a higher level
guys like Sam Darnold, Gino Smith. I'll take it even
further back, Kurt Warner went from back and groceries to
the Greatest Show on tur with the Rams. Those guys
saw their careers turn around. But then the other side,
you see guys that are successful early on in their
careers at one place, they get traded, they go elsewhere,
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things don't work out, and then they can't duplicate that
same magic. It happens both ways with the other thing,
and the most important thing in my opinion that Schneider
said is that it matters when you are going to
acquire them. Pertaining to the quarterbacks in this draft, this
is not a top heavy quarterback draft. We're not going
to see six quarterbacks taken in the first twelve picks
like we saw a year ago.
Speaker 4 (05:30):
I promise you that.
Speaker 6 (05:31):
But this is one of the biggest mid round quarterbacks
with the talent that I've seen in recent memory. And
I truly believe it's going to be a frenzy from
rounds two to five, maybe rounds three to five, and
once one guy goes, it's going to start being a
domino effect where these other teams are going to want
to get in.
Speaker 7 (05:46):
So yes, I agree one hundred percent with Schnyder.
Speaker 6 (05:48):
It's not a top heavy quarterback draft, but that doesn't
mean that there's still not a lot of very good
quarterbacks in this draft.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
Yeah, and listen, I talked about this earlier in the show,
and I talked about it in broad strokes, that the
quarterbacks will go and years where they don't are very
very very rare outliers.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
So we start to see things.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
One of the guys we've talked about a lot is
Jalen Milroe, and everyone said, oh my god, he's attending
the draft.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
Can that really be true?
Speaker 1 (06:10):
He comes on the show a couple of weeks ago
and says, yeah, I'm gonna be there, and everyone's like,
but hold on, hold on.
Speaker 4 (06:15):
The mock drafts don't have you going in the first round,
So why would you go there?
Speaker 1 (06:19):
Because the mock drafts aren't right, guys, They're never right.
I'm started to look at the chess board. I think
Milroe is going to go in the first round, and
that's not me With sources, you know me, I just
kind of go with my instincts and try to follow
the stories. I think someone like him is going to
go in the first round, and I think it's going
to be surprising. I think the team's going to be surprising.
Everything's going to be surprising about it. But that's what
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the first round is at this point. At some point
a few five, six, seven years ago, I feel like
just the lust for first round quarterbacks went absolutely nuts.
And I think something has to do with the idea
that the Chiefs took Mahomes when no one really loved
them that much, and then we've had other cases like
that too. I think you try to grab lightning in
a bottle and in the first round on quarterback. If
it doesn't work, well, screw it. Then we'll try again,
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and in a couple of years, I think there's going
to be more than suspected. It wouldn't surprise me a
five go in the first round. It would heavily surprise
me if only a couple did, which is a lot
of the mocks say.
Speaker 5 (07:11):
Tom, So, let's talk about a draft in which you've
got a shorter, undersized quarterback that people don't know is
he going to fit into the culture. You got a
gunslinger type who's just been inaccurate. You don't know if
you're gonna be able to harness the playmaking ability. He
got a pretty good quarterback who just threw a ton
of interceptions as last year, and you got a really rare,
dynamic runner who some people are talking about should he
(07:34):
just go and play a different position. I'm not talking
about this year's draft. I'm talking about the twenty eighteen draft.
Those guys became Baker Mayfield, Sam Darnold, Josh Allen, and
Lamar Jackson all landed in the correct spot that was
not regarded as a great quarterback class, and there were
bumps along the way. Baker Mayfield had to get a
second act, a third act down in Tampa before he
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ends up replacing Tom Brady and taking over that franchise
with Sam Darnold. He's bounced around, He's been on four
or five different teams, but now is in CA That'll
just got paid coming off his best season. Obviously, Josh
Allen's an MVP. Lamar Jackson is an MVP. One of
those guys have in common. They had a plan for him.
Buffalo had a very clear vision for how Josh Allen
was going to succeed. Baltimore clearly had a very good
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vision for Lamar Jackson. There was one other quarterback taking
in the first round, Josh Rosen, whose entire coaching staff
got fired like six months after he had been drafted.
That's a bad context. I'm not saying Josh Rosen would
be a great player right now, but the context of it,
which is what Cody said mentioned from Schneider's quote, it's
all about where you get him, what's the plan for him.
That's where really fascinated to see, because you've got talent
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in this draft, but if they go to the wrong place,
it's not going to end.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
Well.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Oh, it's perfect, Tom, that's a perfect jump for our
second down. Let's go, perfect plan, perfect fit, picture, perfect
team for Schadeur Sanders.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
That's our second down, Tom.
Speaker 4 (08:53):
What you got?
Speaker 5 (08:56):
I would say the perfect fit in my mind for
Shadeur Sanders is Pittsburgh. He was on the Insiders with
a right after his visit, literally right after his visit
to the Steelers from the Pittsburgh Airport. When I asked
him about Mike Tomlin and the Steelers, he just had
this big grint and just said Mike was so cool.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
It reminds me and.
Speaker 5 (09:15):
My dad their values are very similar. I could see
him in a scenario like that, where you've got playmakers
around him, you're going to have a really good defense,
and you've got a guy at Mason Rudolph who at
minimum you can play with in the short term until
you feel like Shador is ready. That all lines up
to me. I don't see New Orleans being a great
fit based upon the profile of quarterbacks that Kellen Moore
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has worked with in the past. Certainly the Giants we've
talked about it ad nauseum could end up taking Shador Sanders,
we would see exactly how that would fit. But in
my mind, Pittsburgh is really really unique. Here Shador Sanders
in a Steelers uniform.
Speaker 4 (09:52):
That's a fascinating picture to put in your mind.
Speaker 6 (09:54):
Okay, the perfect fit for Shador Standers, in my opinion,
is the Las Vegas Raiders. Now, let the record show
I'm not saying that the Raiders are going to draft
Shador Sanders at the six overalls.
Speaker 7 (10:04):
I think they take Ashon Genty.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
I think that's who they have to go with.
Speaker 6 (10:07):
But if I am Shador Sanders and I'm looking at
teams in the first round who need a future franchise quarterback,
the Raiders Samir at.
Speaker 7 (10:15):
The top of that list for multiple reasons.
Speaker 6 (10:17):
The first one being is I've talked about Shador needing
some time to develop, right, he can go there with
Gino Smith being the starter, he can sit behind him.
We saw Geno and his career, He's had to overcome adversity,
work his tail off. He played for Pete Carroll in
Seattle where he had his turnaround.
Speaker 7 (10:30):
I think that can help Shadoor learn from.
Speaker 6 (10:32):
Him, understand what it takes to be successful in the NFL,
and he can learn a lot and absorb all of
that from Geno Smith.
Speaker 7 (10:38):
Also, that gives time for John.
Speaker 6 (10:40):
Spike Tech and the Raiders to build the roster around
him before he has to take over as a starter.
The other thing, and the most obvious, is you get
to play for Pete Carroll, who I think, and i'd
be biased as a former Trojan, is the greatest coach
of all time. I love the way that he coaches.
He's seventy four years old, he acts like a young guy.
He runs around and he gets his players excited. I've
heard nothing but great things about him. But the other
coach on the staft that I think is more important
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is Chip Kelly.
Speaker 7 (11:02):
Right when you hear Chip Kelly.
Speaker 6 (11:03):
You think the Oregon jury right throwing the ball sixty
times a game, the running gun the West Coast to
spread all the pressures on the quarterback shoulders.
Speaker 7 (11:10):
That's not the case anymore.
Speaker 6 (11:11):
Go back and watch the tape at Ohio State, watch
his film when he was there as the offensive coordinator
a year ago and they won the national championship. They
ran a true West Coast Pro style, balanced type of offense.
They had two one thousand yard rushers. They took the
pressure off of Will Howard shoulders, so we can go
out there and pray, play freely. That didn't happen for
Shador Sanders when he was in college. It was the
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exact opposite. They were six in the country at Colorado
as a passing offense. They were one hundred and thirty
fourth out of one hundred and thirty four teams. In
rushing offense, all of the pressure was on his shoulders.
That's not ideal for a young quarterback. So I think
it would be awesome to see him paired up with
Chip Kelly. And then the last one, the guy we
just talked about dancing around at Coachella is Tom Brady
is a minority owner now the Las Vegas Raiders. He
has been a mentor to Shardor in the pass helped
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him out in high school. Look, I don't think the
Raiders draft shardor Sanders six overall, but pertaining to the
question and second down of three and out, if I
make quarterback in this draft and I'm looking at these
teams that need a future franchise, I think the Raiders
would be at the top of that list.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
All right, I agree with you, and I have three
teams down and the Raiders are one of them. Listen,
Tom says Pittsburgh, and that all fits as well. If
Shadur wants to show up, make a splash and start
really quickly.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
Okay, well, maybe.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
It's Cleveland, maybe it's Pittsburgh one of those places. But
if you want to sit and know that you're gonna sit,
and all the glitz and the style and the fame
just sits aside, and your dad's not saying anything, and
you're not saying anything, you go someplace like the Raiders
where Gino is the starter and there's no debate the
other team. I have the La Rams, same deal. You're
gonna play for Sean McVay. You're gonna behind Matthew Stafford.
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I think the writing is on the wall with Matthew Stafford.
He's coming back, of course, and he's a great player,
and he's not done. But you're telling me that there's
not be any kind of succession plan in place. And
I can see McVeigh in the Rams, who don't pick
until twenty six, being crafty with their picks. Then the
last one I have, I mean Dallas Cowboys number twelve.
This is not you didn't ask me who's the best
pick for Dallas. I'm talking about for Schadure to go there,
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to put the star in the helmet, to sit behind Dak,
to have a complete Jerry gasm across the NFL. The
fact that they drafted Sanders start the conversations about Dion's
gonna replace Schottenheimer after one year. I mean, this would
be never mind for Shader. For us, this would be
the best thing. Okay, I'm thinking about us, Tom, That's
what I want. I thought the Cowboys should have drafted
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quarterback last year. I wanted them to take Pennix last year.
Let's try something new and let's exit from the super expensive,
not worth the price Dak experience and move on to
something fun, new and fresh. It's gonna sit for one year.
I say, Dallas is my number one choice. I don't
care what anyone else says about it. I was asked
a question, I say, Dallas, you got the church giggles?
Speaker 3 (13:46):
All right?
Speaker 4 (13:47):
This?
Speaker 2 (13:47):
I thought the third question was perfect for Kyle.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
That question was perfect for Kyle. Well done. Let's move down.
Let's move on to third down.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
The Eagles have sign center Cam Jurgens to a new
four year contract extension that will put him with the
team through twenty twenty nine. Now, of course, you have
to remember Cam Jurgis was freaking out that Kelsey retired.
And who's gonna be the originator of the tush push.
It's Cam Jurgens. He's the new guy, all right. Cam
Jurgens first season Pro Bowl is first big time purchase.
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He has a decision to make. All right, He's got
a contract extension. What's he going to do with that money?
He claims he's gonna buy tsa pre check. That's his
first big time purchase. Okay, doesn't matter the value or
how long, it doesn't matter the efficiency. That's the decision
that he makes, is Cam Jurgens, Tom, what do you
make of this decision for Cam Jurgens and his TSA
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purchase pre check pre check purchase.
Speaker 5 (14:40):
I like the subtlety of it. Okay, you're an offensive lineman,
You're just supposed to blend in. Your name doesn't get
mentioned a whole lot unless something goes very wrong or
you end up being a reality TV star like his
Center was that preceded him. For Cam Jurgens, this is
a mild purchase. It's a small type of a thing,
but it's gonna make his life just a little bit
better as opposed to trying to jump to something. I'm
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gonna buy this house in this car just because you
wanted to improve your life a tiny little bit here
to me, that says Cam Jurgens still is keeping the
main thing, the main thing, Kyle.
Speaker 7 (15:12):
Yeah, this is I like this money well spent.
Speaker 6 (15:14):
I don't remember the person I was before I learned
about TSA prechecking. I mean that when you're in the
NFL in the off season, you do a lot of traveling,
right You'll travel back home, you'll fly to go train,
you maybe go on vacation. You spend a lot of
time in the airport, which means you spend a lot
of time in the security line. So when I was
at the time my girlfriend at the time my wife. Now,
we were traveling I think from Jacksonville back home, and
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she had signed up for TSA PreCheck without telling me.
But at the time, when you have pre check and
you purchase the tickets, she would handle all the travel
and all of that. Everyone in your party got to
do it as well. So we walk over and she
goes to the TSA PreCheck line. She says, Hey, we're
going to that line. I said, there is no line.
She said, exactly, it's TSA PreCheck.
Speaker 7 (15:51):
We go straight to the front.
Speaker 6 (15:52):
I'm like, okay, I felt like we were doing something illegal.
We went over there, handle letty our tickets. Go straight
to the front. Kyle, I didn't have to take my
shoes off, I didn't get my socks dirty, and the airport,
I didn't have to take my jacket off, kept my laptop
in my backpack.
Speaker 7 (16:04):
It was the best thing ever.
Speaker 6 (16:05):
So the next three or four trips, we were doing
the same thing over and no rest said, I'll give
you my card, purchase the tickets. We're going TSA PreCheck. Right,
you walk to everybody else thinking that you're big bad
and everyone else is in line at that normal security
check out, right. So then we get to about the
fourth trip. Well, I find out that they change the rules.
We walk up hand the tickets to the lady and
she says, I'm sorry, both of you have to have
pre check. I said, no, no, no, my wife has pre check.
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We're girlfriend at the time. I am a part or
with her. I get to go in for pre check.
She said no, we changed that rule.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
My heart dropped. I was shattered. I looked at her
and it.
Speaker 6 (16:35):
Was one of those moments where I said, you just
go go ahead. I'll wait, and she's like, no, no, no,
I'll stay with you in line.
Speaker 7 (16:40):
I said, no, you go.
Speaker 6 (16:41):
You would have thought it was Jack and Rose on
the Titanic saying hey, I'll see on the other side.
She goes through, skips away all happy. I wait in
line for about an hour and get through done, defeated, crushed.
Speaker 4 (16:51):
I walked through.
Speaker 6 (16:51):
She's sitting there with her AirPods on, watching her show,
drinking a Starbucks and eating a bagel, waving to me,
and I just went through an hour of pain. The
very next thing I did, Cam Jurgen, a smart man
was going by tsa pre check.
Speaker 7 (17:03):
I will never go.
Speaker 4 (17:04):
Back to those lines.
Speaker 6 (17:04):
If you haven't done it, or if you have done before,
please go and do it.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
I couldn't love this story more. Sixty eight million dollar
deal and he's treating himself to a seventy eight dollars privilege.
Speaker 7 (17:15):
And it is a privilege.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
Because it affords you something that we used to have
in this country before the Internet and Instagram, something called dignity.
And I don't want to take my shoes off at LaGuardia.
I don't want to do it at JFK. I feel undignified,
I feel filthy. I don't want to stand in those
two little yellow footprints in that booth in my arms out.
Speaker 4 (17:33):
I hate it.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
I feel like a lab animal or something. I don't
want to do it. So I'm going to pay that money.
And it's interesting because you know Cam Jurgens, when he
travels with the team, he doesn't have to go through
all that. The teams go through a different protocol to
they airplane. It's not about that, So you know what
that tells me. This is about his private time, this
is about his family time. And without googling, I'd be
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willing to bet Cam Jurgens has children, and when you're
dragging those kids and their little roller bags with the
lightning McQueen logo on, I'm like, just get me to
the bleeping plane. Not to mention folks, Cam Jergens is
three hundred pounds. The three hundred pound club is a
different deal with flying commercial. They have a whole different
set of operations.
Speaker 4 (18:14):
I see them.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
I sympathize he could buy himself.
Speaker 4 (18:18):
A humby a lake house. Some on that nonsense. Just
this seventy eight dollars.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
I will say one thing, Cam Global Entry costs one
hundred and twenty dollars and also gets you pre check.
That's where the value is. So get the Global Entry package.
Leave your shoes on like a decent human being. I
could not be happier for you. I hope I run
into you at the airport. I'll high five to you
in the pre check line.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
How did nobody come up with the fact that TSA
pre check? For a time, people thought they were cheating
the system. I would think many people thought that they
would want to do away with TSA PreCheck, that everyone.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
Should have to follow the same rules. TSA PreCheck is
the tush push of security lines. At the airport. Everybody,
come on, what are we doing? How did we not
get here? Kyle?
Speaker 2 (19:03):
I would have thought that you have gotten us there
with TSA. PreCheck is the tush push of security at
the airport.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
I'll tell you what pisses me off about PreCheck.
Speaker 4 (19:11):
You get this PreCheck, You go.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
To the airport, you sign all these forms, you sign
away everything, you pay, and then you show up to
pre check and there's these snobs in the air who
do clear and they're like the super super high end
and they're like, oh, pre checks, that's the siren clear
and take all your privacy. It's different. It's totally different. Tom,
there's a better line and they look down on you.
Speaker 4 (19:31):
I don't appreciate it.
Speaker 5 (19:32):
Whatever they invent next, I would take the next level up. Okay,
Like whatever it is, I fly enough, I will pay
whatever it costs. Cam Jurgens looks like he goes on
vacation to Omaha. He doesn't need global entry. He barely
needs anything. You can drive a tractor there. I need
everything that I can get.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
Clearly, the beef jerky business is thriving for Cam Jurggens
because he's got his own beef jerky company Beef Jerky.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
If anybody wants to go check it out.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
I like that that Tom is insulting Jurgens for going
to Omaha while doing television from Green Bay, Wisconsin.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
Where he's starting my career.
Speaker 4 (20:04):
Rob Trotter.
Speaker 5 (20:05):
Direct Flight, Baby, Direct flight from Minneapolis.
Speaker 4 (20:08):
Right here. Now you lad over in Detroit. You know
you did.
Speaker 5 (20:15):
Walking straight off the plane. You're in the car in
three minutes. There's nothing. There's eight gates in one restaurant.
It's fantastical.
Speaker 4 (20:22):
Love flying to Green.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
Ball perfect, Kim, Jurgen's well done.
Speaker 8 (20:29):
I let it Gay, Donald river Rider gets it.
Speaker 6 (20:35):
I do it down the sideline, still going. Donald Driver
from a touchdown.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Z got a fan touch down.
Speaker 4 (20:48):
I'm doing I do it, but it Love? Let it Gang,
I do it. I'm doing. I do it but to love.
I do it for the love, but it Gang.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
Welcome back to g MF.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
You have to imagine if there were physical pillars, many
of which held up Lambeau, this fall name and our
guests on this show would be one of the group
that holds that building up, and the history that the
Packers have is not said without Donald Driver. He is
a four time pro bowler, a super Bowl forty five champion,
and he's our friend of the show.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
Jim McPhee, what's going on? Donald?
Speaker 7 (21:20):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (21:20):
Not much. Good to see you all.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
Great to see you.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
As I just mentioned, fourteen seasons in the NFL, perhaps
most importantly for Packers fans, all of which were spent
wearing a Green Bay jersey. But besides your playing career,
you have, your heart is in Green Bay. How amazing
is it that the NFL Draft is there this week?
Speaker 4 (21:39):
No, it's so truly amazing.
Speaker 8 (21:41):
I think that's what everybody wanted to see, and now
we have it firsthand, and no one really knows the
area as well as we do as players. But it's
an iconic, historic place to be and so I was
blessed to play fourteen years there and some people don't
get that opportunity. But it's a place that's going to
be exciting to see the draft come there. I just
fund it because I said, you know, I wish my
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son would have been getting drafted this year because it'd
have been pretty cool go back home where he was
born and raised. But he still has two years left,
so we'll see what happens.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
Oh man, we got him on the big board.
Speaker 4 (22:12):
He's got all the mock drafts are going to have driver.
I love this. I love the ear on the show.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
So many years watching you, including Donald way back five
six o seven, we look at the Aaron Rodgers that
everybody watches and talks about now, and you were there
for the origin story when he got drafted controversially to
Green Bay. What are your early memories, your first memories
of Rogers joining the Packers.
Speaker 4 (22:35):
That he was elite. I think that was approven fact.
He proved that, you know, weekend and week out.
Speaker 8 (22:39):
I think his first rookie year, he kind of just
torched our defense in practice and we kind of and
you know, normally second team goal against our first team defense,
and he kind of lit it up. And then I
think we really saw when he played we played Dallas,
Brett gets injured, were playing Dallas in Dallas, and he almosts.
Speaker 4 (22:55):
Back to win that game.
Speaker 8 (22:56):
And I think at that point we knew that this
guy's career was going to be bright.
Speaker 5 (22:59):
Transitions from Hall of Fame caliber quarterbacks are never easy. Donald, luckily,
as only do it like once every couple of decades
here from far to Rogers. You lived through that back
in seven and eight then a number of years later,
it's from Rogers to Jordan Love. Do you believe Jordan
Love can do the same thing those other guys did,
win a Super Bowl, win MVPs, become that caliber of
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Hall of Fame type quarterback.
Speaker 8 (23:24):
Yeah, I think I think you can. I think that
it was approved fact to be able to say the
Packers in the last whatever.
Speaker 4 (23:30):
Twenty years have only had three quarterbacks.
Speaker 8 (23:32):
It's truly amazing, right, I mean to go from you know,
Brett Farv to Anon Rodgers and now to Doing Love.
Speaker 4 (23:37):
Doing Love proved it.
Speaker 8 (23:38):
I mean, first year as a starring quarterback, take him
to the NFC Championship game, he loses that, then get
to get into the postseason again next year.
Speaker 4 (23:45):
I mean, sky's a limit.
Speaker 8 (23:46):
The guy is still young, still having a young group
of receivers, the team is young. I think it's just
an opportunity to take it to the next level. And
they're just missing a small piece and you know, we
got to figure out what that is. And I think
you know Matt's going to do that in this draft
as well.
Speaker 6 (24:00):
Don you were a seventh round pick out of Alcorn State.
You turn that into a fourteen your NFL career all
with the Green Bay Packers, might I add, which is
very impressive of your their all time leading receiver. What's
your message to some of these young NFL hopefuls that
might go on that seventh round, or go on drafted,
or go a little bit later than they had anticipated.
Speaker 4 (24:17):
Opportunities. I think that's the fun part.
Speaker 8 (24:19):
I mean me coming from HBCU, I think a lot
of people felt like.
Speaker 4 (24:22):
We didn't play against the talent.
Speaker 8 (24:23):
But when you look at some of the greatest players
that have played at HBCUs and now play that play
in the NFL, they all Hall of famers, right, And
so this is a proven fact that you know, if
you get.
Speaker 4 (24:32):
The opportunity, you know you have to make the best
of it. And for me, that was it. You know,
I felt like I should have been.
Speaker 8 (24:37):
Drafted high in that year, in ninety nine draft, but
unfortunately I didn't.
Speaker 4 (24:42):
And so you know, there's only one.
Speaker 8 (24:43):
Guy that has more stat sen yards than me and
his name is tore Hope. And so that tails you
right there, that you know backwards, you got to move
forward on opportunities, and this was my opportunity.
Speaker 4 (24:54):
And you nailed it.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
Of course, it's a crazy thing. With the Packers. They
have not drafted a wide receiver in the first round
since O two.
Speaker 4 (25:01):
It's been twenty three years.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
Why is that and you think that can change this year?
Speaker 4 (25:06):
I think it's always been we built in house, right.
Speaker 8 (25:08):
I think you look at the channel level, guys come
in and have this opportunity, and guys play well.
Speaker 4 (25:12):
Right. For myself was one of those guys.
Speaker 8 (25:14):
You got Robert Ferguson, you get drafted, you got jvaon Walk,
you got Terry Lee, I mean everybody. It just happens,
and so the package just feel like we've always built
it in house and this has always been their tradition.
I don't know if that changes this year or not,
but we will see. I think we have a bunch
of young receivers that can step up and feel those boards.
Speaker 4 (25:33):
But you know, to this.
Speaker 8 (25:35):
Point, I think a lot of people still question have
they done that? Who's the number one receiver? And we're
hoping that we can get that in that locker room.
If not, then you got to go in the draft
and get it.
Speaker 3 (25:45):
Donald. Can you help settle something for me?
Speaker 2 (25:46):
I am born and raised in Minnesota, a native Vikings fan.
Memories of you coming to the building.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
We know the history. I think the NFC.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
North has the best rivalry across all four teams. What
were the rivalries like for you when you were playing
in Green Bay? And can you compare it to now
because the Lions are having a moment now when we're
constantly trying to make an argument for the Bears, take
us back maybe to your experience Packers team hate that
they have for other teams, and then what are you
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seeing now within the division?
Speaker 8 (26:17):
No, I think you know, we've always called it the
Black and Blue Division for a reason. Right, it doesn't
matter what the record is. Every time we play each other,
it's a straight battle. And so we've proven that, you know,
year in a year out, and so the practice have
always been at the top. And you see Detroit last
year proven that they're they're stepping up to that plate.
I think it's going to be Chicago is always going
to fall short every single year, and then Minnesota, you
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got to give them credit, stepped up. But you know,
I think it's you know, you got to keep the
pieces together to make the run. And so we hope
that we can get back on top and win the
Central and then at that point, you guys can just
sign and take them back seats to what we do.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
That was perfect.
Speaker 4 (26:57):
Perfect.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
So the next thing I want to ask you was
more about your family. So I too have daughters, our
girl family. This is something that you and I have
in common. You are an advocate for youth sports and empowerment,
especially knowing that you have daughters within your family. You
have been named Chief Motivation Officer for BSN Sports Surge program.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
What is this about?
Speaker 4 (27:19):
Tell it?
Speaker 2 (27:20):
Could you tell us about the future that you have
with this group?
Speaker 4 (27:24):
Yeah, this is an amazing program.
Speaker 8 (27:25):
Surge is going on to that first year anniversary and
with that they made me the chief Motivation officer really
to empower women to play sports.
Speaker 4 (27:32):
As you know, me having two daughters and.
Speaker 8 (27:34):
Then also having a sun You know, I can talk
to my son any kind of way.
Speaker 4 (27:38):
And he understands and he moves on.
Speaker 8 (27:40):
Sometimes you have to talk to your daughters in a
different way and you have to really sit down and
educate them. I think sometimes as men, we think we
have the resources that we need, but sometimes we don't.
And so SURGE is actually having this the resources now right.
We want to empower grocery standsports, lead a healthy life
and then the back end of this. It's a free tool,
right that we can help you educate and develop coaches
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that they can understand how to coach women in sports
so that young women don't get pushed out of sports
at a very young age.
Speaker 4 (28:07):
I mean everyone that we.
Speaker 8 (28:09):
Know when girls get to pushed out of sports because
of the coach, and it's not because they don't have
a love for the game anymore. Seventy two percent males
are coaches and coaching women's sport, and so have the
final way to be able to move forward with that
and teach these coaches how to have these heart to
heart conversation with these young women so that they don't
get pushed out of sports at a very young age.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
It's a great cause and you're a great spokes Before
it's surge by BSN Sports.
Speaker 4 (28:34):
I love that Donald.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
Before you go, we have one last question about ball
and specifically pickleball. Dude, you love it, You're playing it,
It's all over your social What is it about Donald
Driver and pickleball?
Speaker 4 (28:46):
This love affair that's going on that I can I
can still go professional in the sport.
Speaker 8 (28:52):
You know, I think so many people playing this game now,
you know, I think the football thing is over for me.
I think I am not trying to go back and
play at all for any of that. I love challenging
my son, but I think the fun part about this
is that I get to play this game and doesn't
matter of what age group you are, you can be
the young you guess are the oldest, and UH plays
game for a very long time. I realized that it
really brings families together. UH, and this has really had
(29:13):
brought our family together. My wife doesn't play golf as
much as I do, but this is what one game
she does.
Speaker 4 (29:19):
Love to play.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
Excellence bringing marriages together, and you're continuing to bring the
heat within the NFC North. Donald Driver for everybody, thank
you so much for coming on and setting the stage
before Lambeaus the NFL Draft.
Speaker 4 (29:32):
Thank you all so much.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
Donald Driver. Oh my gosh, look at them go.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
Up the middle.
Speaker 4 (29:44):
Kiddicks Kennedy open field breaking.
Speaker 6 (29:47):
Tackles again, kidding, praise Knicks.
Speaker 4 (29:50):
He's got his eyes. And so for the touchdown, it's
getting DJ. That's my DJ.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
That's a touchdown, Kansas steak. Oh god, doggy touch down.
Speaker 4 (30:12):
That's awesome.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
Running through Manhattan, Kansas and he runs right to our
show right here. It is Kansas State running back and
NFL prospect d Jay Giddens.
Speaker 4 (30:22):
What's up? DJ?
Speaker 7 (30:22):
House Man?
Speaker 9 (30:25):
Everything good?
Speaker 4 (30:26):
Can't good? Playing good?
Speaker 1 (30:28):
And I wouldn't complain if I was you either, I'd
complained if I had to tackle you. Though we just
saw in the montage you got this combination. You're definitely
an angry runner, but you got the shake too. For
everybody watching who loves your game and might want to
have you join their team, how would you describe your
running stop?
Speaker 9 (30:46):
I say, well, first, I say I'm a sure Dawn Beck.
You know what I'm saying. I want to focus more
on catching the ball. But you know last season, I
say I'm more of an in between tackles from the outside,
a little bit contact balance. I'm not scared to hear somebody,
So yeah.
Speaker 3 (31:07):
All right, DJ. This next question is very important.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
This is like if you tell somebody, oh, I don't
eat meat, or like, you know, something very triggering for
people who was a player a running back when you
were growing up that you watched closely and you tried
to mind it. We're talking any NFL running back, a
guy that you loved and you channel when you.
Speaker 9 (31:24):
Play off the back, I say, Emms Smith like nice,
I was a dask Cowboy fan growing up, so that's
somebody I was always looking at when I was playing
pee wee and all that.
Speaker 5 (31:38):
Did take me back to high school. We're playing varsity.
I believe to your junior year, you're a zero star
war crew. You were ready to go to community college
until you get a call from Kansas State. Can you
take me back to that moment of finding out that
Kansas State was an option to kind of how that
shaped your journey since?
Speaker 4 (31:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (31:56):
So, so, like you said, I really start playing varsity
to my junior year football high school. So it starts
in my senior year, and I ain't had no offers
going into my senior year. So during the senior season,
that's when I got Butler, and I'm finna go to Butler.
I went on an official visit and everything, and then
Kennas State they hit me up. I wanted to take that,
(32:18):
take that chance with me. I ain't had no other
offers and really just I ain't going no visits none
because it's right after COVID, So I'm just trusting.
Speaker 4 (32:26):
The process and it.
Speaker 9 (32:28):
Really just once I got on campus, then it was
just it's just going from.
Speaker 4 (32:32):
There now, did y'all.
Speaker 7 (32:34):
I'm a former USC Trojan.
Speaker 6 (32:36):
I've heard a few people say that watching your game
film reminds them of a former Trojan and Hall of
Famer Marcus Allen. What does it feel like to be
compared to the great Marcus Allen?
Speaker 4 (32:45):
I mean it feels good.
Speaker 9 (32:46):
Like I always tell people, I want to have my
own running style. But you know, like the reality of
it is like if you getting compared to to certain
like great great players like that, that must mean something.
You must be doing something right. So yeah, man, I
like it. So I just gotta keep going.
Speaker 4 (33:04):
Oh there he is.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
Look at we got the highlights right next to you.
Speaker 4 (33:07):
Look you look good right.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
Now on TVDJ, it's you and Mark's even throwing the ball. Listen,
this guy runs a four four three. He had three
thousand yards in college and imagine this. He did it
for one college program only.
Speaker 4 (33:22):
DJ.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
We love you coming on the show. We are rooting
for you. We are fans of yours. We cannot wait
to see you play pro ball. Go get him, man.
Speaker 9 (33:28):
Well, definitely appreciate you.
Speaker 4 (33:30):
Stay healthy.
Speaker 7 (33:30):
DJ, Thanks, appreciate you.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
That's DJ Giddons, Jamie here at all, we love him,
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