August 12, 2025 • 36 mins
Hour Two of the Good Morning Football Podcast begins with hosts Jamie Erdahl, Kyle Brandt, Manti Te’o and D’Marco Farr answering several questions - What are your thoughts on Cam Heyward holding in? Does Caleb Williams need preseason reps? Should Patriots institute the tush push? FLIPPIN OUT - Do you want Jaxson Dart or Shedeur Sanders starting sooner? Is Caleb Williams or JJ McCarthy more important in the NFC North?
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
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Speaker 2 (00:10):
Welcome to Good Morning Football present of my STA Tuesday,
August Felt, Jamie Earn on Mansie So, DeMarco far a
Super Bowl champion defensive tackle by the way, for the Rams,
and Kyle Brant in New York. Kyle, I kind of
understand even though you're three thousand miles away, what it
must be like to go up against Mansi in a
game competition?
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Was this hour?
Speaker 2 (00:29):
We got something and he's actively just throwing darts my
way because we're going head to head today. You and
DeMarco got something going on BMFB.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
What else we have this hour?
Speaker 4 (00:39):
Show him no mercy for you.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Right after it, right for the throat, because he's going
to do the same to you. Listen, We're going to
talk about Travis Hunter. We're gonna talk about rookie quarterback.
We're going to talk about what a wonderful time it
is to be in the second week of August in
twenty twenty five with the NFL season coming, and we're
going to talk about it right now.
Speaker 5 (00:56):
Let's go, Let's go.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Welcome to Good Morning Football, presented by SUF That's right, GMFB, everybody,
Jamie Manti, Kyle DeMarco. I mentioned last night in Hollywood,
I went to Netflix premiere of I didn't want to
say it like that, but I.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Had to as an obligation when you go to something
like that.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
A Netflix premiere for the Cowboys documentary that's coming out
The Gambler, America's team, The Gambler and His Cowboys. And
I saw Jackie Slater DeMarco, who you played alongside and
has quite fond memories of that era. But I assume
Rams Cowboys just the history of what.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
Did you think of Jackie when you met him?
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Just a wonderful, jolly human that I would be terrified
if I had to play actual the game of football.
Speaker 5 (01:48):
A wonderful, jolly human I never met. I met the
other guy. Well, then wants to tear your face off.
No mentor that's awesome. Yes, good to see Jackie everywhere.
But yes, that was my welcome to the NFL.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Yeah, it was fantastic. There were a ton of people there.
Skip Bayless was there. I did an awkward wave as
if I think he watches GMFB.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
He did not wave back, Kyle. So it's all right.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
We're running on I did skip Bayless not wave back
at what's going on with that?
Speaker 4 (02:13):
No?
Speaker 3 (02:13):
He had sunglasses on you. I don't know, Yeah, I know.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
It's like, guess what, Jamie, you just got aggregated. Sorry,
go get them guys, Skip Bayless stiffs Jamie RDA on
the red coffee, wait about it?
Speaker 4 (02:24):
On awful announcing. There you go.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
No, not what I asked.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
I saw Nick right at the gym yesterday. He tried
to work in on my set. I said no, no, no,
I'm not finished yet.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
Get out of here.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
There you go, guys, thank you, thanks for deluding the pool.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
There all right, let's move on three and out, please,
for the love of God. On GMFB first down, Steeler
star Cam Hayward has been sitting out of practice because
he wants a new contract.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
He's tied as.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
The twenty second highest paid interior defensive lineman. That's so specific,
twenty second highest paid interior defensive lineman, and he told
reporters that he is quote looking to be valued.
Speaker 4 (03:01):
After the year.
Speaker 6 (03:01):
I've had to really justify playing the umber I'm playing.
You know, I understand I signed a contract last year
to be but to be completely honest with you, when
I signed that I told him, you know, when I
have an all Pro year expecting you to come back
and you can look at the contract and see what
it was. But you know, I think everybody kind of
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giggled a little bit, But in my heads I used
it as motivation to go out there improve it now.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Elsewhere in that interview, Kim Hayward would not say no
when asked if he was willing to miss regular season
games over this contract dispute.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
So, gentlemen at the.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Table, what our our collective thoughts on Kim Hayward holding
in and pushing this thing, maybe as far as into
the regular season.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Kyle Tough, good guy, good player, friend of the show.
Speaker 7 (03:53):
You try.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
It's out of respect for Cam to be like, where
is he going with this?
Speaker 4 (03:58):
And I just.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
I'm not a sports agent, but if you wanted the
all thing, wouldn't you put that in the contract? So
you signed a deal, Cam, and then you made a
remark that they laughed at and using for motivation.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
Am I following the story right? Well?
Speaker 1 (04:15):
The Steelers are probably like, well, yeah, we were thrilled,
but we just gave you a new deal and we
got other guys to worry about. It's a tough, weird thing.
They just paid TJ. Watt all this money they're trying
to go into this season, we look at him as
a stalwart.
Speaker 7 (04:28):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
I'm very much in my feelings about this because I
like Cam a lot. I don't like the story, and
I don't like the timing. It's kind of like Cam
knows that he's on the back nine and he doesn't
have that many seasons left, so maybe he's just saying,
screw it, Let's just go for it anyway and just
get every penny I can because I know I'm not
going to be here forever, which I respect.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
But it's hard to imagine.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
The Steelers being like, well, you're right, let's renegotiate again
after last year. I just don't think that typically out works.
Speaker 7 (04:56):
You know.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
I hate holdouts, I really do.
Speaker 5 (04:59):
I hate when guys like Kim Hayward have to have
to politic to get the contract they deserve. Yeah, he's
the twenty second paid defensive tackle in the league, or
defensive player in the league, defensive lineman, he's not that.
He's top ten, top five, and depending on who you have,
it could be your number one threat on game day.
But I will say this. Holdouts I think are destructive.
They're distracting. But this is the best of all possible worlds.
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Because he's there. You can tell he wants to be there.
He's putting pressure on the team by being there. It
also sends the right message to the other teammates, like
I understand what you're doing. It's business, but you are
here with us. They're sweat coming off your brow just
like me. So I wish you could avoid things like this,
But unfortunately with Dallas and Michael Parsons and now with
Cam Hayward, guys outperforming the deals.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
They want new deals.
Speaker 5 (05:42):
And I'm with you, Kyle, I wish you could put
it in the deal, but there's no guarantee you make it.
So it's one of those weird things. Does he deserve
the money absolutely? Is he going to get it? I
don't know. Will he miss games? I hope not, because
he's one of the best players in the league right now.
Speaker 8 (05:56):
Well, guys, I think we learned somebody in this offseason,
and we learn it from this situation.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
We're learning it from Jerry Jones.
Speaker 8 (06:01):
Guys, get it on paper, Get it on paper. The
stuff it doesn't that stuff doesn't work.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
Anymore.
Speaker 8 (06:07):
Okay, So I love Cam Hayward and I said this
on the show last week when we talked about who
is the person outside of Aaron Jones that is most
important to the success.
Speaker 7 (06:16):
Of the Steelers.
Speaker 8 (06:17):
I mentioned that as Cam Hayward and you know this
to Marco, like, you can't.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
Have a TJ.
Speaker 8 (06:21):
Watt Alex high Smith production if you don't have somebody
on the interior of that D line pushing the middle
of that old line back, like those guys that we
hear about all the time on TV we see the
player of the years for TJ.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
Wat.
Speaker 8 (06:35):
You don't have those numbers if you don't have the
trust that big number ninety seven is going to push
that interior back so that you can go around the tackle,
so that you can go underneath the tackles and do
all of those things. So I think it's unfortunate. I
think they do get the job done.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
I didn't know twenty second.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
I know you that is insane.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Mant I just said one of these where like the
sounds that don't really he goes Jay twenty.
Speaker 4 (06:57):
Second, you bought it that that's it. That's just just
insane to me.
Speaker 8 (07:01):
But again, guys, get get it all on paper, Okay,
Like we can't just have verbals anymore.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
It's get it all on paper.
Speaker 8 (07:08):
And I think that if you look on paper, Cam
Hayward is the guy in the middle for the Steelers.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Get it all on paper, so you don't have to
get it off your chest in the public demeanor instead.
Second down Bears offensive coordinator Declan Doyle honestly may be
a top five favorite name for me in the NFL
right now, Declan Doyle knows what his second year quarterback
Capa William needs is to take his game to the
next level.
Speaker 9 (07:29):
I think that reps, reps, reps, reps, like we have
done a really good job of, you know, utilizing a
lot of walk through time where you know we're simulating
in the afternoon. You know, we're going through forty five
reps plus blitz pickup, which might be twenty four more reps.
But the quarterback having to go through call to play,
come up to the line of scrimmage and go through
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his operation. And my answer to that is there's no shortcuts,
there's no way to you know, hey, make it easy.
You have to really go through that process.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
Declan Doyle, Kyle, I'm sure you can speak to this
as a Bears fan. Just a crazy rise in the
coaching ranks. He started his career as a coach in
twenty nineteen in New Orleans.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
Now he is an offensive coordinator.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Speaking about how to get Caleb Williams to a place
where he is elite, where he's fulfilling the prophecy that
many Bears fans have put forth. Kyle, first of all,
your thoughts on Declan Doyle as a human, but also
Caleb Williams needs the reps. But he did play against
the Dolphins. Does this make you hesitant about how the
Bears are approaching this?
Speaker 1 (08:31):
Well, Declan Doyle sounds like a long stick MIDI lax
bro and I completely salute.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
I like the name.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
I like the smart how smart he is. He's young,
he's up in coming like Ben Johnson, and Ben Johnson
is going to run the show on offense.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
We know that that's why.
Speaker 10 (08:43):
They got hired.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
But Declan Doyle is a guy behind him who is
maybe like a coach in waiting and bigger things coming.
Hopefully its first Caleb Plaane Caleb Plaine in the preseason.
There's a cool story that a lot of Bears fans
know about then everybody does. So they have the joint
practice with the Dolphins. Caleb gets a bunch of work
against the Dolphins defense. Then on Sunday, Sunday morning, and
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this is the day of the preseason game against the
Dolphins in which Caleb did not play, Ben Johnson goes
out on the field with Caleb with the three wide
receivers with Cole Comet and DeAndre Swift and they had
a practice session of seventy plays. They ran seventy plays
that core group of offensive players.
Speaker 4 (09:22):
That's the kind of reps he's getting.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
He's getting practice reps, he's getting on the field reps.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
He's getting a ton of reps.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
My bottom line with this to any Bears, Fanny, anybody
associated with the Bears, trust Ben Johnson and what he's doing.
For years, maybe even decades, there's been whining new about
we need to get this coach, and we got to
get this coach. And Ben Johnson was the kind of
coach the Bears were just never going to get. It
was a surprise, it was a lightning bolt when they
got him.
Speaker 4 (09:45):
So you got the.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Guy you want, You got the kind of guy you want.
Don't tell me in the second week of August. Now,
if you finally get him that you're saying like, yeah,
I don't know about this, Ben Johnson, why isn't he
playing Caleb in the preseason? Shut your mouth, be quiet,
be patient. This is the mad genius that you wanted.
Speaker 4 (10:03):
You got him.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Now let his due, Let him do his mad genius thing.
And if that includes keeping Caleb on the sideline, fine.
He knows more than us about Caleb and the offense.
Speaker 7 (10:13):
And if you want to look into it.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
In the three years he spent with Jared Goff in
the Lions, Jared Goff spent very little time in the preseason.
I think in three years he played one series and
all the preseason games combined. Jared Goff played incredible football.
Trust to Ben Johnson, you wanted him, you got him. Now,
don't start complaining about him. Let's all believe that he
knows what the hell he's doing and let him do it.
Speaker 5 (10:32):
Kyle, I was thinking Bond villain, Declan Doyle, Bond villain.
But I was skeptical. I mean, look, Matta, you played
in Chicago. You know it's tough to throw the ball
up there. Uh So, I mean, name a quarterback a
Chicago Bear quarterback outside of Jim McMahon, right, that's had success.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
It's been tough for a long time.
Speaker 5 (10:56):
But I would say anybody who can come closest to
doing it, I think Caleb Williams can, And I believe
in Ben Johnson. I believe in his coaching. So we'll
see if that's if that's actually.
Speaker 4 (11:04):
Going to work.
Speaker 5 (11:05):
But throwing the ball around the yard in Chicago when
it gets cold outside, well it's going to be tough.
Speaker 4 (11:10):
I mean it's I think.
Speaker 5 (11:11):
Chicago was based off running the football and playing good
tight defense. But if any quarterback can break that streak,
I think Caleb william has the style and the ability
to do so.
Speaker 4 (11:20):
I just haven't seen it done yet.
Speaker 5 (11:21):
But if anybody can't get this guy to his potential,
it would be Ben Johnson. Now Decklan Doyle, I'll work on,
but I know Ben Johnson and what he can do.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
Yeah, I'm struggling a little bit, Guys.
Speaker 8 (11:30):
I'm struggling because I had a ho take on this thing,
and then brother KB goes on this thing and says,
if you think that he should have played in the
preseason game, shut your mouth. So I'm struggling this morning
to even get go.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
You now, you you say what you on you thank
you for the green light, because this is how I
see it, because KB, you brought you brought up something
I didn't know.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
I think Kyle, when Kyle goes on things like that,
just take it your piece out and be.
Speaker 8 (11:52):
Able to go yeah yeah, and then I got to
just be ready to get back and put my gloves
in the game, so the gloves.
Speaker 4 (11:56):
Aren't coming on.
Speaker 8 (11:58):
KB said that they ran seventy plays before the game,
and you know this to Markle, I don't you could
run semni plays all you want to. Seven game plays
are way more productive than seventy or seven hundred plays
against nobody where you're running just on air.
Speaker 4 (12:15):
I'm sure.
Speaker 8 (12:16):
I don't know if they had the defense out there
or whatever, but it still doesn't equate to what it
looks like and feels like and what it tastes like
when you're going against somebody else in the game situation.
So I am on full board with Declan Doyle.
Speaker 4 (12:30):
Reps reps, reps, reps.
Speaker 8 (12:31):
I just you had a great opportunity to get those
reps against another I know you went in practice, but
it's just it's different I've been there. We've had practices
where we practice against another team.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
When you suit up for the game.
Speaker 8 (12:44):
It's just a totally different it's a totally different environment.
So I just thought and I would hope, I hope
that they would play some of the starters this past
weekend against the Dolphins.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
You just gave a really good insight into what you
were like as a defensive player when you say things
like what the game tastes like, what it tastes like,
what are you doing out there, Manta.
Speaker 4 (13:04):
Jam just on the other ends, SMEs like fear. That's
not airy offensive guy, all right.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
Third, the Patriots were one of ten teams to vote
against the banning of the tush push this offseason. Remember
the vote was pushed back into the summer. We understood
the Packers were part of this conversation and the Patriots
were on that list as well. Yesterday, offensive coordinator Josh
McDaniels was asked if he may consider running the toush
push now that it did not get banned. It is
allowed in your playbook With the second year quarterback Drake May.
Speaker 11 (13:38):
I've never done it, doesn't mean that I wouldn't do it.
I think it depends on if you feel like you
need that to gain an additional inertia and move the
ball forward. Obviously, the Eagles are exceptional at it on
have been for a few years now. I don't dislike
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to play.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
I'm happy that the visor has moved, has lived on
for Josh McDaniels. It sounds like McDaniels is at least
open to the possibility of inertia of utilizing the tushbush
into Drake May's arsenal plays this season, McDaniels considering running
it with Drake May.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
The Toush push. How does that make you feel?
Speaker 4 (14:17):
DeMarco, it's weird.
Speaker 5 (14:20):
You have to be touchy when talking about the Toush push,
because if you say you wanted outlawed, that means you're
afraid of it. If you like it, that means you
don't think the game is being officiated properly. I would
just say this, just make sure it is officiated and
you're doing it right.
Speaker 4 (14:33):
You can't assist a guy.
Speaker 5 (14:34):
You can't put two hands on a guy's back and
push him through the line of scrimmage.
Speaker 4 (14:38):
Just make sure you get that part right.
Speaker 5 (14:39):
But other than that, it's just a short yardage play.
It's just trying to pick up the first down. It's
nothing we haven't gone through in our lives at some point.
So the Eagles made it famous, they gave it a name,
and now it's caused celeb But look, I think every
team at some point is going to need this or
have to use this to win a football game or
to salt one away. So it's just one of those things.
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If you voted against it, it looks like you're a coward,
you're afraid of it. If you voted in favor of it,
then you want to use it to win football games,
just like the Eagles.
Speaker 4 (15:08):
So it's just one of those weird things.
Speaker 7 (15:09):
I love this.
Speaker 4 (15:11):
I love this.
Speaker 8 (15:12):
The only thing I don't like is we're not going
to see it this year. They don't play each other.
I wish that they played each other. Maybe they're playing
in the Super Bowl. I don't know, that's the only
time that they're actually play each other. But I wish
there was just a battle of the toush push guys.
It's like watching WWE and the opponent uses his finishing
move on the other guy, like it's watching Chris Jericho
use the.
Speaker 4 (15:32):
Rock bottom on the.
Speaker 8 (15:33):
Rock like I still can't stag with Chris Jericho for that,
Like you broke my heart when you did the rock
bottom on the rock, Like that's what I wish. It
would have been so entertaining to watch the Patriots run
the touch push and then the next series the Eagles
run a touch push, and it just keep going back
and forth, back and forth. So I love it, KP.
I wish we would have been able to see it
this year.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Just another short yardage play. This is the touch push,
just another short yardage play. It's like saying Sidney Sweety
is just another Blue Jeans sales, completely different thing.
Speaker 4 (16:04):
Guys, guys, it's not even close.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
This thing has a name and almost started World War
Three between the NFL. It survived, it lived its rock
and roll. And I'll tell you what man side. They
can't use it against Philly, but they could use it
twice against Buffalo. Buffalo does that sucker all the time.
And I like the Patriots thinking about doing it for
a bunch of different reasons. First of all, it will work.
It almost always works. Their quarterback is significantly bigger than
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Jalen Hurts. It will probably work even better if they
can get it down. Plus I like more teams doing it.
I like the fact that more teams are like, if
they're gonna let those two teams do it, we're gonna
do it. One of the reasons that there was people
were voting against the band is because it felt like
they would be unnecessarily punitive to just a couple of
teams who have perfected it, those couple of teams Philadelphia
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and Buffalo, and that that wasn't looked at as fair
just because they do it well. So all's fair now, guys,
it's there. If you have a big, strong quarterback and
offensive line, do it. Because it may be banned next year.
This may be the last year.
Speaker 4 (17:01):
For the push Push.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
I want all the teams to do it, and the
teams that don't do it. You're down on the goal
line and you have basically an unstoppable play if you
have the right personnel and you're still doing turn around
and handing it to your running back. What is this
twenty fifteen? Like we're in the modern times. I'll do
it while they still let you do it.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Speaking of Kyle, it reminds me of twenty fifteen. I
was just getting started on the SEC and we're sitting
in all these Nick Saban production meetings with Alabama, and
that was really in the onslaught of the RPO in
the college game, and Saban's like, sure, you know, it's
like football purists didn't like it in the college game,
and essentially it was like, is everyone going to mess
around and try to run the RPO. Saban finally adopted it,
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and then he just kept beating everybody. So it's like,
if you're gonna allow it into the game and then
you're going to allow Alabama to do it or Sabans
run it, then you have to accept the fact that
when everyone is going to find.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
Success with it, so be careful what you wish for.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
That's the category that you're in when it comes to
the tushbush. There's nothing more gratifying than just flipping the
coin perfectly. Okay, we're flipping out. Someone had a coin
in their pocket. It was a couple of ass worth,
but we came through as a studio crew, so thank you.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
We're playing flipping out.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
Okay, we got two topics and the coin never just
lands on its side. Kyle DeMarco, Manta, you have to
pick the side. I'm gonna tee up two topic I'm
gonna take a topic and two options.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
There's no wish you watch you here.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
You pick an option, you stand by it, you make
your case, and then your opponent has to defend the
other side of the coin.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
Boy, no matter what.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Okay, Kyle and DeMarco, you will be teed up twice
in Mantin and I going.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
Up against each other.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
Right, all right, Kyle and DeMarco, you're first. Who do
you want to see start sooner in the regular season?
Who do you see starts sooner? Jackson Dart or Shadur Sanders.
The coin will flip. They will tell us who gets
to go first and pick their topic. They pick their
answer and then defend the stands.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
Okay, KB, who do yeah?
Speaker 4 (18:53):
Pick KB?
Speaker 1 (18:54):
All right, give me my thirty seconds. I just wish
you gave me a question that was actually challenging. The
answer here is obviously Jackson Dart. We should just call
him Jackson Start at this point, like that's his new nickname.
Speaker 4 (19:07):
This is a first round pick.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
We're talking about it first versus a fifth due respect,
and its chadeur against the Panthers backups.
Speaker 4 (19:13):
It's Jackson Dark.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
There are exactly zero New York Giants fans who are
doing backflips about Russell Wilson's starting this season.
Speaker 4 (19:21):
It's not his fault.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
He's on his fourth team in five years or something
crazy like that. It is a first round pick and
a coach you need to win. Now, let's start the future.
It's Jackson's start.
Speaker 4 (19:29):
I would say, hold the phone.
Speaker 5 (19:31):
I think Russell Wilson has earned the right to at
least start in New York at least once, ten time
Pro bowler.
Speaker 4 (19:37):
He's a Super Bowl Hi know.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
You got a defense.
Speaker 4 (19:39):
Now I'm getting there.
Speaker 5 (19:42):
So I would keep second day a bench in favor
of Russell Wilson. I would start Shador Sanders because of
the opposite of Joe Flacco. Joe Flacco is a guy
that's forty. He's he's on the back nine. To use
your words earlier in the show, you might as well
get the future startered now. And I think the best
quarterback on that roster right now is Shador Sanders, So
you might as well get it started with him.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
Doing DeMarco's apport, eats time on the previous topic before
he answers his own. Come on, Jamie, he knows what
he's doing.
Speaker 4 (20:12):
Jame Lockety, that's me and you. It's our turn.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
All right, Wow, here we go.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
This man can taste football. Now, Manson and I are
gonna go. Who's a more important character in the NFC North?
More important character? Is it JJ McCarthy or is it
Caleb Williams? Flip the coin, show one of our faces.
We need to get you a new headshot?
Speaker 4 (20:30):
Yes please?
Speaker 2 (20:31):
Okay, Jam, I'm gonna play the Kyle Brank game. I'm
gonna say Caleb Williams is.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
More important in the NFC North for this?
Speaker 7 (20:41):
Okay?
Speaker 4 (20:41):
Good?
Speaker 3 (20:42):
Start the clock thirty second?
Speaker 2 (20:44):
Have you heard that there is a record that has
never been broken in Chicago? And how desperately desperation breeds
a really dangerous type of character, which is you will
do anything to produce this, which is.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
The four thousand yard passer.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
I constantly am asking Bears fans, would you seriously rather
have a four thousand yard pastor and settle for six
wins or seven wins just to say you have a guy.
There's so much pressure on Caleb Williams. There are some
people that say yes to that, Kyle, which is amazing
to me. Caleb Williams and the pressure and the and
the marquee of the Bears expectations this season.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
He is a much more important character. Nancy North.
Speaker 8 (21:18):
Okay, he was trying to get extra credit on that one.
I'll give you some extra credit. Start my clock. Okay,
you've got extra talent.
Speaker 4 (21:25):
Over there in Minnesota.
Speaker 8 (21:26):
Okay, you have Justin Jefferson, you got an extra receiver
and Jordan Addison. Now you're not gonna be there for
three weeks, but you got Aaron Jones, you got TJ. Howkinson,
and you got that Brian Flores defense. That's one of
the best defenses at applying fresher. The only different factor
this year to last year is the quarterback. Kevin O'Connell
is a Sean McVay Coaching Tree recipient or whatever you
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want to talk.
Speaker 4 (21:49):
That's that's him. Pair all of those guys up. That's
why JJ McCarthy is the most important guy in NFC. North. Okay, Jane,
I thought you was gonna go.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
That's the whole point.
Speaker 4 (21:59):
I want to go first.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
No, exactly, that's baby.
Speaker 4 (22:03):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
Kyle, you've taught me well. Kyle and DeMarco, you're up next.
Travis Hunter played both sides of the ball.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
Have you heard? But should he continue to play on
both sides, or should he stick to one and excel
at it. Flip the coin.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
Take your stance, please, I hope it's to Marco first,
flip it on.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
Okay, Kyle, go ahead.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
NA, two coin tosses in a row, two wins in
a row, start the clock.
Speaker 7 (22:31):
Of course, he.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
Should play both sides of the ball. It's just like
all the parents are saying in youth sports. Right now, DeMarco,
you got to avoid specialization. You gotta spread yourself out
and do different things. Corner, wide receiver. I want him
to do even more. I want Travis Hunter to return kickoffs.
I want him to kick kickoffs. All of the things
that the Jaguars did to get him. You didn't do
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it if you're just one side of the ball. And
you might say, have him play corner. They can draft
the wide receiver in the first round next year.
Speaker 7 (22:58):
No they can't.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
They spent that pick and they spent this. So he
plays both sides of the ball. Double threats. That's my man,
both sides. Go ahead, No, herd.
Speaker 4 (23:06):
Start the club? Can he? Sure? Should?
Speaker 10 (23:08):
He know?
Speaker 5 (23:09):
And I'll present this. That's a lot of meetings, Kyle.
You got to go through offense, defense, aspect teams. From
the time he walks in, You've got three people in
your ear. And consider this, like Dion and Colorado, if
he's doing everything for entire games, you're gonna have to
give him times up time off. How do you think
that plays in the locker room, especially if you're not winning.
That's tough on Liam Cohen. So I'm sure he can
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do it. What should you do it? I would think
about it.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
You have an excellent finger point, and like should he
do it? It really makes you question yourself, all right?
Speaker 3 (23:40):
Flipping out? Last round? You ready, mister? Are you ready
for this last one? Here are some fun moments from
the first week of the preseason. Take a look, take
a listen.
Speaker 7 (23:52):
Hello, come on people, it was a great throw. Whoever
said that? If you don't really know about that?
Speaker 1 (24:14):
Michael Jackson, Oh my gosh.
Speaker 4 (24:21):
What bequote? Practice?
Speaker 7 (24:23):
Such a freaking mayor border? Y'all, faith is going to
determine me?
Speaker 9 (24:28):
He is?
Speaker 3 (24:38):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (24:39):
Justin Herbert, Jameis Winston, who would you rather have miked
up all season long?
Speaker 4 (24:49):
What are we doing?
Speaker 7 (24:49):
This is really.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
Okay, Justin Herbert?
Speaker 2 (24:55):
I need you to be miked up all season long
because in the magic of television production and editing. Somehow
we just were able to make you sound as exciting
and as interesting as Jamis Wiston.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
And that is not a knock on your personality.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
It's the fact that you're kind of sneaky like that
where you know when you're miked up. And if you
really went back and listened to that Cliff, all you
heard Herbert say was hello football, take cover and some
sound effects like pew pew. I actually need to hear
him say more things. I need to discover Justin Herbert's
personality and I need it to be in a regular
season long miked up scenario.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
Manti wow wow wow.
Speaker 4 (25:30):
Okay.
Speaker 8 (25:31):
Obviously, Jameis Winston is one of the most entertaining figures
besides a football player. When he ever has a mic,
you need to.
Speaker 4 (25:39):
Be locked in.
Speaker 8 (25:40):
And the reason why he should be miked up besides
Justin Herbert is because the only reason why you want
to listen to Justin Herbert miked up is because you
wanted to listen to Jim Harball, because Jim Harvall is
going to be next to him, because Jim Harvall is
going to say something that's creative that's something that's going
to be on a tabloid.
Speaker 4 (25:55):
So I want to listen.
Speaker 8 (25:57):
To Jameis Winston because he's going to give me some gospel,
he's going to give me some energy, he's going to
give me something to laugh at.
Speaker 4 (26:02):
So I got.
Speaker 5 (26:03):
James, You got one, oh, Jamis all day every day.
Speaker 7 (26:08):
I think man tis got it.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
Jamie, your argument for Justin Herbert wanting to be miked
up is that the micd up package we just heard
of him wasn't good and he didn't say anything. That's
a tough one, you know. It's a tough angle to
go with.
Speaker 4 (26:18):
I need more.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
I go with jam Jamis as Charles Barkley potential.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
I just I would like more options to pick from
with with Justin Herbert, and I feel like if we
just add more to the pool, like we'll get there,
we'll get something.
Speaker 7 (26:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
No, he got it. They had to give him a.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
Slow motion effect to just like draw out some of
the things that he says, like he's smart, he knows
what he's doing, all right, that was flipping out. I
think I've decided something. Officially. Wide receiver is my favorite
position in football. It is past catchers because it goes
across a ton of groups. It's wide receiver's tight ends,
occasionally a running back. It's fantastic And in this time
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of year you are fat drafting for your fantasy team,
you are trying to make sure you know the two deep,
the three deep, the four deep.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
You want to know your team inside it out. So
did you catch that?
Speaker 2 (27:05):
Is a segment that I'm going to do throughout preseason
on guys that not only did they catch that, which
in the preseason you better be catching it to make
the team, but also it's their names. It's guys that
you might not know, so when you hear it on
the broadcast, you can tell your buddy, yeah, I know
that name because Jamie said it on.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
Did you Catch That?
Speaker 9 (27:20):
All?
Speaker 3 (27:21):
Right?
Speaker 2 (27:21):
Starting off with a guy in Philadelphia who, after preseason
Week one, Darius Cooper, had to stand up in front
of the local Philadelphia media and introduced himself because no
one had really done the media scram at his.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
Locker just yet.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
So Darius Cooper is from the suburbs of Saint Louis, Missouri.
He gets lightly recruited to Tarleton State the Texas. At
Tarleton State, he averaged twenty yards per catch. He goes
undrafted to the Philadelphia Eagles this offseason, and in the
preseason Week one game, he led all Eagles pass catchers
with six catches on seven targets eighty two yards and.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
This touchdown.
Speaker 8 (28:03):
Second down and one over the top got it touchdown.
Speaker 4 (28:07):
Darius Cooper auch twenty yard laser from Tanner McKee. Who's
got him in the end zone again. He's having fun tonight.
Speaker 6 (28:17):
He well, I'll have a fun tonight watch him and
Darius Cooper from Tarlton State.
Speaker 8 (28:24):
The guy had over fourteen hundred yards, sixteen touchdowns, almost
twenty yards per catch.
Speaker 5 (28:31):
He's making in stating his case to be a part
of this football team.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
Yep, Tarlton State the Texans. The only active NFL player
that is playing snaps in the regular season from Tarlton
State right now is the linebacker e J. Speed, who
actually plays for the Texans. So, Tarlton State, you might
have another guy putting your school on the map now.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
Tarlton State is of the.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
FCS and he was a first team All American as
a wide receiver. There were three last season. The other
one is Efton Chisholm. The third out of New England
the Patriots wide receiver. No, oh, that is not Wes Welker,
who would be another qualifier for a great undrafted wide receiver.
This is Efton chism the Third, five foot ten nearly
two hundred pounds. He is unmissible at practice, however, he
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was missed in the draft. Like I said, undrafted out
of Eastern Washington.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
He currently holds an FCS.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
Record out of Eastern Washington because in all fifty three
games he played in college, he caught a pass fifty
three games straight. In the preseason game Week one for
the Patriots against the Commanders, Efton chism the third, I
like to say the whole thing had six catches on
eight targets, good for a touchdown and.
Speaker 3 (29:39):
Fifty yards receiving.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
His wide receiver coach Todd Downing said, Chisholm is an
absolute joy to work with. His work ethic is second
to none.
Speaker 3 (29:46):
He's got to fight for all of his opportunities then
make the most of them.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
So, as we mentioned Darius Cooper and Efton Chislm, two
of the three FCS wide receiver All Americans from last season,
that's number two on the list. Number three, you ever
show up at a job interview and you're like, I
want this job so bad, I will wear the company's
shirt to the interview. It's like if someone wanted to
be Kyle Brandt's assistant and he wears an angry run
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shirt that he made at home to get the job.
That is what Isaac Testlaw did when he showed up
for his Detroit Lions interview.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
This is Isaac Teslaw.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
He grew up in Michigan and he has been a
lifelong Lions fan to the point when he came to
his interview out of Arkansas, he showed.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
Up in a homemade test Law Jersey.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
This is like the ring camera version in the Lions facility,
and there is Teslaw wearing a number ten made.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
Dan Campbell actually said this was kind.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
Of odd and intense and maybe a little overeager, but
apparently it worked because he went in the third round
to the Detroit Lions. He started out at Hillsdale College
the Chargers before transferring to Arkansas. Hillsdale, of course, is
in Division two in Hillsdale, Michigan, so he did not
stray far from home, like I said, a lifelong Lions
fan and now after making his homemade Jersey. He is
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making an impression on training camp, and as head coach.
Speaker 12 (31:04):
I thought he did well. I thought he played better
than he did the first week, you know. And I
would say ever since we put pads on, he's been
trending this way, you know. So that's a good sign,
is that you're getting better with pads on than the pajamas.
So that was awesome, you know.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
Dan Campbell's all about when you put the pads on.
Speaker 4 (31:25):
Now.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
Teslaw at his high school in Michigan was a long
jump record holder. So that's going to bode well if
you're a wide receiver or pass catcher, and a good
thing for Jared Goff to have in this line's offense.
Number four, let's check in elsewhere in the NFC North.
Speaker 3 (31:37):
This is John A.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
Walker, an undrafted free agent out of Texas A and M,
but he actually started his college career at Division two
Grand Valley State. In the first week of the preseason
for the Chicago Bears, he led the Bears offense with
three catches, forty one yards and a touchdown from case Keenum.
Now here's a Listen to the touchdown, but specifically pay
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attention to the celebration potential.
Speaker 10 (32:04):
Rights touchdown for Chicago. How the up Bears hap the
lead again? The little floating fade pass for the rookie
out of Texas A and M by way of Grand
Valley states, what a play?
Speaker 7 (32:18):
Want to throw it a catch?
Speaker 3 (32:20):
Now?
Speaker 2 (32:21):
You might want this guy to make the team just
because his professionalism on the Jewbee slide. That is a
TikTok dance. That is every right now a viral sensation.
This is not the first time Joddy Walker has.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
Hit the Jewbee slide.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
It's kind of like a sideways moonwalk if you want
to translate it. He did it in an intro video
for Texas A and M. He did it, I think
when he signed with the Bears, and now he's doing
it catching touchdowns in the preseason for the Bears. So
if you like touchdowns elevations, let's hope Johnny Walker makes
a fifty three men roster. Lastly, Man Titeo and I
got to go to Chargers training camp for back together weekend.
We're watching We're watching Trey Lance, We're watching Justin Herbert.
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And there was an undrafted free agent wide receiver at
Camp Dale Von Campbell or d Camp if you will,
And this is one of these players. He is massive,
check it, six foot four, two hundred and twenty pounds
going up and getting balls from these quarterbacks for the Chargers.
Speaker 3 (33:13):
He is your classic three stop college player.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
He went from Illinois to Nevada to South Carolina before
finding his home in Los Angeles.
Speaker 3 (33:22):
Now, not only can this guy.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
Move at six foot four, two twenty, he was a
part of a relay team in Texas.
Speaker 3 (33:30):
He went to high school in Texas.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
On the four by two hundred crew that won a
Texas state title in the four by two hundred. Six
foot four, two twenty won a relay for for the
four by two hundred. I think that's fast, I think
that's big, and I think.
Speaker 3 (33:44):
That's really good for a wide receiver.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
Dale Von Campbell everybody in his two In his game
against the Saints, he had three catches sixty two yards
and he's a good, nice, big target for Justin Herbert
and this Chargers offense.
Speaker 3 (33:55):
There it is did you catch that?
Speaker 2 (33:56):
Like I said, it's not just the ball, it's the names.
Speaker 3 (33:58):
It's guys.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
Maybe they're late round flyers on your fantasy team, but
it's fun to go to the undrafted guys, the late
round go and see where they're at.
Speaker 3 (34:05):
Kyle Bryant, great job, James.
Speaker 7 (34:07):
Thank you, Yes, that was great, Jamie.
Speaker 4 (34:09):
I have all kinds of reactions.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
I think it's fascinating with the Lions that Detroit, with
their automotive history has a guy named Tesla coming in
now as a fully electric vehicle.
Speaker 4 (34:19):
But I like the story. I've been wearing his own jersey.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
There's a legendary story in Hollywood of like twenty five
years ago when they were casting the original Toby Maguire Superman,
that Freddie Prince Junior walked into the casting offices in
a full Spider Man costume to try to impress them,
be like I can play this role. Didn't work out
for Freddy. They went with Toby Maguire. But I like
that Tesla had that in him.
Speaker 7 (34:40):
The other guy.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
This is especially you guys at the table as ex
players will relate to this. Darius Cooper right out of
Tarlton State. Can we see Darius Cooper? Because I think
it is so funny that he's this wide receiver wearing
forty one in training camp.
Speaker 4 (34:55):
That is unheard of.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
There's never been a wide receiver number forty one. It
is this random number they give you when you're the
guy from Tarlton State and you got to go out
there and just make it look good.
Speaker 4 (35:04):
I looked it up at Tarlton State. He were number six.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
Six is a number for modern times that works for
wide receiver. I can't think of a wide receiver ever,
you'd have to go back to black and white when
they wear forty one. But it's like he's making it
look good. I'm going to rock this. Forty one one
of the worst number is an NFL history or sports
history outside of Derktovinski, And I'm going to make it
look good.
Speaker 4 (35:23):
And I respect that.
Speaker 7 (35:24):
Darius Cooper.
Speaker 3 (35:25):
It's Sopervi Kyle and he's the number forty one.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
When he catches a touchdown like that, it's like you
have to justify the forty one, be like, well he
is out of Tarlton State, Like you have to like it's.
Speaker 8 (35:36):
Well, James, that that was awesome. I looked up the
name Efton chisholm so e Fton. It comes from Old
English language and it means settlement by the river.
Speaker 4 (35:46):
And when I think of a settlement by.
Speaker 8 (35:48):
The river or a house or a cottage by the river,
I think of like smoke coming out the chimney and
what I've seen from fton Chishlm. He ain't afraid of
no smoke now, oh he also ain't afraid to be
on no island whatever dB you put out there. So
I thought that was brilliant. I do like ftin Chishlm.
There's a new boat, the Patriots and these receivers they
have these names Wes Welker. Yeah, it kind of lines
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up perfectly with them.
Speaker 5 (36:10):
Yeah, I'd keep the forty one. I would try to
make that hot and thirty eight. Yes, I try to
make hand them back to where I went to school.
Who was the second guy?
Speaker 4 (36:17):
Again?
Speaker 3 (36:18):
It would be it was Chism, wasn't it Darius?
Speaker 4 (36:21):
Is that the guy?
Speaker 5 (36:21):
Or Elsworth or something that's make you want to put
your pinky out when you drink, you know, and careful.
Speaker 3 (36:28):
Kyle, It's it's not Tesla. It's Tesla.
Speaker 4 (36:34):
Law.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
Your fast law sounds like like a cheap version of
a Tesla that.
Speaker 4 (36:40):
You get on a knockoff.
Speaker 7 (36:42):
I get it live.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
Did you catch that on GEOMAF You look for those
guys throughout the season?
Speaker 3 (36:50):
Animal Unearth some more as August rolls out
Good Morning Football is the production of the NFL in
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Speaker 2 (00:10):
Welcome to Good Morning Football present of my STA Tuesday,
August Felt, Jamie Earn on Mansie So, DeMarco far a
Super Bowl champion defensive tackle by the way, for the Rams,
and Kyle Brant in New York. Kyle, I kind of
understand even though you're three thousand miles away, what it
must be like to go up against Mansi in a
game competition?
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Was this hour?
Speaker 2 (00:29):
We got something and he's actively just throwing darts my
way because we're going head to head today. You and
DeMarco got something going on BMFB.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
What else we have this hour?
Speaker 4 (00:39):
Show him no mercy for you.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Right after it, right for the throat, because he's going
to do the same to you. Listen, We're going to
talk about Travis Hunter. We're gonna talk about rookie quarterback.
We're going to talk about what a wonderful time it
is to be in the second week of August in
twenty twenty five with the NFL season coming, and we're
going to talk about it right now.
Speaker 5 (00:56):
Let's go, Let's go.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Welcome to Good Morning Football, presented by SUF That's right, GMFB, everybody,
Jamie Manti, Kyle DeMarco. I mentioned last night in Hollywood,
I went to Netflix premiere of I didn't want to
say it like that, but I.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Had to as an obligation when you go to something
like that.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
A Netflix premiere for the Cowboys documentary that's coming out
The Gambler, America's team, The Gambler and His Cowboys. And
I saw Jackie Slater DeMarco, who you played alongside and
has quite fond memories of that era. But I assume
Rams Cowboys just the history of what.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
Did you think of Jackie when you met him?
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Just a wonderful, jolly human that I would be terrified
if I had to play actual the game of football.
Speaker 5 (01:48):
A wonderful, jolly human I never met. I met the
other guy. Well, then wants to tear your face off.
No mentor that's awesome. Yes, good to see Jackie everywhere.
But yes, that was my welcome to the NFL.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Yeah, it was fantastic. There were a ton of people there.
Skip Bayless was there. I did an awkward wave as
if I think he watches GMFB.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
He did not wave back, Kyle. So it's all right.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
We're running on I did skip Bayless not wave back
at what's going on with that?
Speaker 4 (02:13):
No?
Speaker 3 (02:13):
He had sunglasses on you. I don't know, Yeah, I know.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
It's like, guess what, Jamie, you just got aggregated. Sorry,
go get them guys, Skip Bayless stiffs Jamie RDA on
the red coffee, wait about it?
Speaker 4 (02:24):
On awful announcing. There you go.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
No, not what I asked.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
I saw Nick right at the gym yesterday. He tried
to work in on my set. I said no, no, no,
I'm not finished yet.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
Get out of here.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
There you go, guys, thank you, thanks for deluding the pool.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
There all right, let's move on three and out, please,
for the love of God. On GMFB first down, Steeler
star Cam Hayward has been sitting out of practice because
he wants a new contract.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
He's tied as.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
The twenty second highest paid interior defensive lineman. That's so specific,
twenty second highest paid interior defensive lineman, and he told
reporters that he is quote looking to be valued.
Speaker 4 (03:01):
After the year.
Speaker 6 (03:01):
I've had to really justify playing the umber I'm playing.
You know, I understand I signed a contract last year
to be but to be completely honest with you, when
I signed that I told him, you know, when I
have an all Pro year expecting you to come back
and you can look at the contract and see what
it was. But you know, I think everybody kind of
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giggled a little bit, But in my heads I used
it as motivation to go out there improve it now.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Elsewhere in that interview, Kim Hayward would not say no
when asked if he was willing to miss regular season
games over this contract dispute.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
So, gentlemen at the.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Table, what our our collective thoughts on Kim Hayward holding
in and pushing this thing, maybe as far as into
the regular season.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Kyle Tough, good guy, good player, friend of the show.
Speaker 7 (03:53):
You try.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
It's out of respect for Cam to be like, where
is he going with this?
Speaker 4 (03:58):
And I just.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
I'm not a sports agent, but if you wanted the
all thing, wouldn't you put that in the contract? So
you signed a deal, Cam, and then you made a
remark that they laughed at and using for motivation.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
Am I following the story right? Well?
Speaker 1 (04:15):
The Steelers are probably like, well, yeah, we were thrilled,
but we just gave you a new deal and we
got other guys to worry about. It's a tough, weird thing.
They just paid TJ. Watt all this money they're trying
to go into this season, we look at him as
a stalwart.
Speaker 7 (04:28):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
I'm very much in my feelings about this because I
like Cam a lot. I don't like the story, and
I don't like the timing. It's kind of like Cam
knows that he's on the back nine and he doesn't
have that many seasons left, so maybe he's just saying,
screw it, Let's just go for it anyway and just
get every penny I can because I know I'm not
going to be here forever, which I respect.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
But it's hard to imagine.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
The Steelers being like, well, you're right, let's renegotiate again
after last year. I just don't think that typically out works.
Speaker 7 (04:56):
You know.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
I hate holdouts, I really do.
Speaker 5 (04:59):
I hate when guys like Kim Hayward have to have
to politic to get the contract they deserve. Yeah, he's
the twenty second paid defensive tackle in the league, or
defensive player in the league, defensive lineman, he's not that.
He's top ten, top five, and depending on who you have,
it could be your number one threat on game day.
But I will say this. Holdouts I think are destructive.
They're distracting. But this is the best of all possible worlds.
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Because he's there. You can tell he wants to be there.
He's putting pressure on the team by being there. It
also sends the right message to the other teammates, like
I understand what you're doing. It's business, but you are
here with us. They're sweat coming off your brow just
like me. So I wish you could avoid things like this,
But unfortunately with Dallas and Michael Parsons and now with
Cam Hayward, guys outperforming the deals.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
They want new deals.
Speaker 5 (05:42):
And I'm with you, Kyle, I wish you could put
it in the deal, but there's no guarantee you make it.
So it's one of those weird things. Does he deserve
the money absolutely? Is he going to get it? I
don't know. Will he miss games? I hope not, because
he's one of the best players in the league right now.
Speaker 8 (05:56):
Well, guys, I think we learned somebody in this offseason,
and we learn it from this situation.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
We're learning it from Jerry Jones.
Speaker 8 (06:01):
Guys, get it on paper, Get it on paper. The
stuff it doesn't that stuff doesn't work.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
Anymore.
Speaker 8 (06:07):
Okay, So I love Cam Hayward and I said this
on the show last week when we talked about who
is the person outside of Aaron Jones that is most
important to the success.
Speaker 7 (06:16):
Of the Steelers.
Speaker 8 (06:17):
I mentioned that as Cam Hayward and you know this
to Marco, like, you can't.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
Have a TJ.
Speaker 8 (06:21):
Watt Alex high Smith production if you don't have somebody
on the interior of that D line pushing the middle
of that old line back, like those guys that we
hear about all the time on TV we see the
player of the years for TJ.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
Wat.
Speaker 8 (06:35):
You don't have those numbers if you don't have the
trust that big number ninety seven is going to push
that interior back so that you can go around the tackle,
so that you can go underneath the tackles and do
all of those things. So I think it's unfortunate. I
think they do get the job done.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
I didn't know twenty second.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
I know you that is insane.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Mant I just said one of these where like the
sounds that don't really he goes Jay twenty.
Speaker 4 (06:57):
Second, you bought it that that's it. That's just just
insane to me.
Speaker 8 (07:01):
But again, guys, get get it all on paper, Okay,
Like we can't just have verbals anymore.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
It's get it all on paper.
Speaker 8 (07:08):
And I think that if you look on paper, Cam
Hayward is the guy in the middle for the Steelers.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Get it all on paper, so you don't have to
get it off your chest in the public demeanor instead.
Second down Bears offensive coordinator Declan Doyle honestly may be
a top five favorite name for me in the NFL
right now, Declan Doyle knows what his second year quarterback
Capa William needs is to take his game to the
next level.
Speaker 9 (07:29):
I think that reps, reps, reps, reps, like we have
done a really good job of, you know, utilizing a
lot of walk through time where you know we're simulating
in the afternoon. You know, we're going through forty five
reps plus blitz pickup, which might be twenty four more reps.
But the quarterback having to go through call to play,
come up to the line of scrimmage and go through
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his operation. And my answer to that is there's no shortcuts,
there's no way to you know, hey, make it easy.
You have to really go through that process.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
Declan Doyle, Kyle, I'm sure you can speak to this
as a Bears fan. Just a crazy rise in the
coaching ranks. He started his career as a coach in
twenty nineteen in New Orleans.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
Now he is an offensive coordinator.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Speaking about how to get Caleb Williams to a place
where he is elite, where he's fulfilling the prophecy that
many Bears fans have put forth. Kyle, first of all,
your thoughts on Declan Doyle as a human, but also
Caleb Williams needs the reps. But he did play against
the Dolphins. Does this make you hesitant about how the
Bears are approaching this?
Speaker 1 (08:31):
Well, Declan Doyle sounds like a long stick MIDI lax
bro and I completely salute.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
I like the name.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
I like the smart how smart he is. He's young,
he's up in coming like Ben Johnson, and Ben Johnson
is going to run the show on offense.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
We know that that's why.
Speaker 10 (08:43):
They got hired.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
But Declan Doyle is a guy behind him who is
maybe like a coach in waiting and bigger things coming.
Hopefully its first Caleb Plaane Caleb Plaine in the preseason.
There's a cool story that a lot of Bears fans
know about then everybody does. So they have the joint
practice with the Dolphins. Caleb gets a bunch of work
against the Dolphins defense. Then on Sunday, Sunday morning, and
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this is the day of the preseason game against the
Dolphins in which Caleb did not play, Ben Johnson goes
out on the field with Caleb with the three wide
receivers with Cole Comet and DeAndre Swift and they had
a practice session of seventy plays. They ran seventy plays
that core group of offensive players.
Speaker 4 (09:22):
That's the kind of reps he's getting.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
He's getting practice reps, he's getting on the field reps.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
He's getting a ton of reps.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
My bottom line with this to any Bears, Fanny, anybody
associated with the Bears, trust Ben Johnson and what he's doing.
For years, maybe even decades, there's been whining new about
we need to get this coach, and we got to
get this coach. And Ben Johnson was the kind of
coach the Bears were just never going to get. It
was a surprise, it was a lightning bolt when they
got him.
Speaker 4 (09:45):
So you got the.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Guy you want, You got the kind of guy you want.
Don't tell me in the second week of August. Now,
if you finally get him that you're saying like, yeah,
I don't know about this, Ben Johnson, why isn't he
playing Caleb in the preseason? Shut your mouth, be quiet,
be patient. This is the mad genius that you wanted.
Speaker 4 (10:03):
You got him.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Now let his due, Let him do his mad genius thing.
And if that includes keeping Caleb on the sideline, fine.
He knows more than us about Caleb and the offense.
Speaker 7 (10:13):
And if you want to look into it.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
In the three years he spent with Jared Goff in
the Lions, Jared Goff spent very little time in the preseason.
I think in three years he played one series and
all the preseason games combined. Jared Goff played incredible football.
Trust to Ben Johnson, you wanted him, you got him. Now,
don't start complaining about him. Let's all believe that he
knows what the hell he's doing and let him do it.
Speaker 5 (10:32):
Kyle, I was thinking Bond villain, Declan Doyle, Bond villain.
But I was skeptical. I mean, look, Matta, you played
in Chicago. You know it's tough to throw the ball
up there. Uh So, I mean, name a quarterback a
Chicago Bear quarterback outside of Jim McMahon, right, that's had success.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
It's been tough for a long time.
Speaker 5 (10:56):
But I would say anybody who can come closest to
doing it, I think Caleb Williams can, And I believe
in Ben Johnson. I believe in his coaching. So we'll
see if that's if that's actually.
Speaker 4 (11:04):
Going to work.
Speaker 5 (11:05):
But throwing the ball around the yard in Chicago when
it gets cold outside, well it's going to be tough.
Speaker 4 (11:10):
I mean it's I think.
Speaker 5 (11:11):
Chicago was based off running the football and playing good
tight defense. But if any quarterback can break that streak,
I think Caleb william has the style and the ability
to do so.
Speaker 4 (11:20):
I just haven't seen it done yet.
Speaker 5 (11:21):
But if anybody can't get this guy to his potential,
it would be Ben Johnson. Now Decklan Doyle, I'll work on,
but I know Ben Johnson and what he can do.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
Yeah, I'm struggling a little bit, Guys.
Speaker 8 (11:30):
I'm struggling because I had a ho take on this thing,
and then brother KB goes on this thing and says,
if you think that he should have played in the
preseason game, shut your mouth. So I'm struggling this morning
to even get go.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
You now, you you say what you on you thank
you for the green light, because this is how I
see it, because KB, you brought you brought up something
I didn't know.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
I think Kyle, when Kyle goes on things like that,
just take it your piece out and be.
Speaker 8 (11:52):
Able to go yeah yeah, and then I got to
just be ready to get back and put my gloves
in the game, so the gloves.
Speaker 4 (11:56):
Aren't coming on.
Speaker 8 (11:58):
KB said that they ran seventy plays before the game,
and you know this to Markle, I don't you could
run semni plays all you want to. Seven game plays
are way more productive than seventy or seven hundred plays
against nobody where you're running just on air.
Speaker 4 (12:15):
I'm sure.
Speaker 8 (12:16):
I don't know if they had the defense out there
or whatever, but it still doesn't equate to what it
looks like and feels like and what it tastes like
when you're going against somebody else in the game situation.
So I am on full board with Declan Doyle.
Speaker 4 (12:30):
Reps reps, reps, reps.
Speaker 8 (12:31):
I just you had a great opportunity to get those
reps against another I know you went in practice, but
it's just it's different I've been there. We've had practices
where we practice against another team.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
When you suit up for the game.
Speaker 8 (12:44):
It's just a totally different it's a totally different environment.
So I just thought and I would hope, I hope
that they would play some of the starters this past
weekend against the Dolphins.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
You just gave a really good insight into what you
were like as a defensive player when you say things
like what the game tastes like, what it tastes like,
what are you doing out there, Manta.
Speaker 4 (13:04):
Jam just on the other ends, SMEs like fear. That's
not airy offensive guy, all right.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
Third, the Patriots were one of ten teams to vote
against the banning of the tush push this offseason. Remember
the vote was pushed back into the summer. We understood
the Packers were part of this conversation and the Patriots
were on that list as well. Yesterday, offensive coordinator Josh
McDaniels was asked if he may consider running the toush
push now that it did not get banned. It is
allowed in your playbook With the second year quarterback Drake May.
Speaker 11 (13:38):
I've never done it, doesn't mean that I wouldn't do it.
I think it depends on if you feel like you
need that to gain an additional inertia and move the
ball forward. Obviously, the Eagles are exceptional at it on
have been for a few years now. I don't dislike
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to play.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
I'm happy that the visor has moved, has lived on
for Josh McDaniels. It sounds like McDaniels is at least
open to the possibility of inertia of utilizing the tushbush
into Drake May's arsenal plays this season, McDaniels considering running
it with Drake May.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
The Toush push. How does that make you feel?
Speaker 4 (14:17):
DeMarco, it's weird.
Speaker 5 (14:20):
You have to be touchy when talking about the Toush push,
because if you say you wanted outlawed, that means you're
afraid of it. If you like it, that means you
don't think the game is being officiated properly. I would
just say this, just make sure it is officiated and
you're doing it right.
Speaker 4 (14:33):
You can't assist a guy.
Speaker 5 (14:34):
You can't put two hands on a guy's back and
push him through the line of scrimmage.
Speaker 4 (14:38):
Just make sure you get that part right.
Speaker 5 (14:39):
But other than that, it's just a short yardage play.
It's just trying to pick up the first down. It's
nothing we haven't gone through in our lives at some point.
So the Eagles made it famous, they gave it a name,
and now it's caused celeb But look, I think every
team at some point is going to need this or
have to use this to win a football game or
to salt one away. So it's just one of those things.
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If you voted against it, it looks like you're a coward,
you're afraid of it. If you voted in favor of it,
then you want to use it to win football games,
just like the Eagles.
Speaker 4 (15:08):
So it's just one of those weird things.
Speaker 7 (15:09):
I love this.
Speaker 4 (15:11):
I love this.
Speaker 8 (15:12):
The only thing I don't like is we're not going
to see it this year. They don't play each other.
I wish that they played each other. Maybe they're playing
in the Super Bowl. I don't know, that's the only
time that they're actually play each other. But I wish
there was just a battle of the toush push guys.
It's like watching WWE and the opponent uses his finishing
move on the other guy, like it's watching Chris Jericho
use the.
Speaker 4 (15:32):
Rock bottom on the.
Speaker 8 (15:33):
Rock like I still can't stag with Chris Jericho for that,
Like you broke my heart when you did the rock
bottom on the rock, Like that's what I wish. It
would have been so entertaining to watch the Patriots run
the touch push and then the next series the Eagles
run a touch push, and it just keep going back
and forth, back and forth. So I love it, KP.
I wish we would have been able to see it
this year.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Just another short yardage play. This is the touch push,
just another short yardage play. It's like saying Sidney Sweety
is just another Blue Jeans sales, completely different thing.
Speaker 4 (16:04):
Guys, guys, it's not even close.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
This thing has a name and almost started World War
Three between the NFL. It survived, it lived its rock
and roll. And I'll tell you what man side. They
can't use it against Philly, but they could use it
twice against Buffalo. Buffalo does that sucker all the time.
And I like the Patriots thinking about doing it for
a bunch of different reasons. First of all, it will work.
It almost always works. Their quarterback is significantly bigger than
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Jalen Hurts. It will probably work even better if they
can get it down. Plus I like more teams doing it.
I like the fact that more teams are like, if
they're gonna let those two teams do it, we're gonna
do it. One of the reasons that there was people
were voting against the band is because it felt like
they would be unnecessarily punitive to just a couple of
teams who have perfected it, those couple of teams Philadelphia
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and Buffalo, and that that wasn't looked at as fair
just because they do it well. So all's fair now, guys,
it's there. If you have a big, strong quarterback and
offensive line, do it. Because it may be banned next year.
This may be the last year.
Speaker 4 (17:01):
For the push Push.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
I want all the teams to do it, and the
teams that don't do it. You're down on the goal
line and you have basically an unstoppable play if you
have the right personnel and you're still doing turn around
and handing it to your running back. What is this
twenty fifteen? Like we're in the modern times. I'll do
it while they still let you do it.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Speaking of Kyle, it reminds me of twenty fifteen. I
was just getting started on the SEC and we're sitting
in all these Nick Saban production meetings with Alabama, and
that was really in the onslaught of the RPO in
the college game, and Saban's like, sure, you know, it's
like football purists didn't like it in the college game,
and essentially it was like, is everyone going to mess
around and try to run the RPO. Saban finally adopted it,
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and then he just kept beating everybody. So it's like,
if you're gonna allow it into the game and then
you're going to allow Alabama to do it or Sabans
run it, then you have to accept the fact that
when everyone is going to find.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
Success with it, so be careful what you wish for.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
That's the category that you're in when it comes to
the tushbush. There's nothing more gratifying than just flipping the
coin perfectly. Okay, we're flipping out. Someone had a coin
in their pocket. It was a couple of ass worth,
but we came through as a studio crew, so thank you.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
We're playing flipping out.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
Okay, we got two topics and the coin never just
lands on its side. Kyle DeMarco, Manta, you have to
pick the side. I'm gonna tee up two topic I'm
gonna take a topic and two options.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
There's no wish you watch you here.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
You pick an option, you stand by it, you make
your case, and then your opponent has to defend the
other side of the coin.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
Boy, no matter what.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Okay, Kyle and DeMarco, you will be teed up twice
in Mantin and I going.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
Up against each other.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
Right, all right, Kyle and DeMarco, you're first. Who do
you want to see start sooner in the regular season?
Who do you see starts sooner? Jackson Dart or Shadur Sanders.
The coin will flip. They will tell us who gets
to go first and pick their topic. They pick their
answer and then defend the stands.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
Okay, KB, who do yeah?
Speaker 4 (18:53):
Pick KB?
Speaker 1 (18:54):
All right, give me my thirty seconds. I just wish
you gave me a question that was actually challenging. The
answer here is obviously Jackson Dart. We should just call
him Jackson Start at this point, like that's his new nickname.
Speaker 4 (19:07):
This is a first round pick.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
We're talking about it first versus a fifth due respect,
and its chadeur against the Panthers backups.
Speaker 4 (19:13):
It's Jackson Dark.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
There are exactly zero New York Giants fans who are
doing backflips about Russell Wilson's starting this season.
Speaker 4 (19:21):
It's not his fault.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
He's on his fourth team in five years or something
crazy like that. It is a first round pick and
a coach you need to win. Now, let's start the future.
It's Jackson's start.
Speaker 4 (19:29):
I would say, hold the phone.
Speaker 5 (19:31):
I think Russell Wilson has earned the right to at
least start in New York at least once, ten time
Pro bowler.
Speaker 4 (19:37):
He's a Super Bowl Hi know.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
You got a defense.
Speaker 4 (19:39):
Now I'm getting there.
Speaker 5 (19:42):
So I would keep second day a bench in favor
of Russell Wilson. I would start Shador Sanders because of
the opposite of Joe Flacco. Joe Flacco is a guy
that's forty. He's he's on the back nine. To use
your words earlier in the show, you might as well
get the future startered now. And I think the best
quarterback on that roster right now is Shador Sanders, So
you might as well get it started with him.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
Doing DeMarco's apport, eats time on the previous topic before
he answers his own. Come on, Jamie, he knows what
he's doing.
Speaker 4 (20:12):
Jame Lockety, that's me and you. It's our turn.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
All right, Wow, here we go.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
This man can taste football. Now, Manson and I are
gonna go. Who's a more important character in the NFC North?
More important character? Is it JJ McCarthy or is it
Caleb Williams? Flip the coin, show one of our faces.
We need to get you a new headshot?
Speaker 4 (20:30):
Yes please?
Speaker 2 (20:31):
Okay, Jam, I'm gonna play the Kyle Brank game. I'm
gonna say Caleb Williams is.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
More important in the NFC North for this?
Speaker 7 (20:41):
Okay?
Speaker 4 (20:41):
Good?
Speaker 3 (20:42):
Start the clock thirty second?
Speaker 2 (20:44):
Have you heard that there is a record that has
never been broken in Chicago? And how desperately desperation breeds
a really dangerous type of character, which is you will
do anything to produce this, which is.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
The four thousand yard passer.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
I constantly am asking Bears fans, would you seriously rather
have a four thousand yard pastor and settle for six
wins or seven wins just to say you have a guy.
There's so much pressure on Caleb Williams. There are some
people that say yes to that, Kyle, which is amazing
to me. Caleb Williams and the pressure and the and
the marquee of the Bears expectations this season.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
He is a much more important character. Nancy North.
Speaker 8 (21:18):
Okay, he was trying to get extra credit on that one.
I'll give you some extra credit. Start my clock. Okay,
you've got extra talent.
Speaker 4 (21:25):
Over there in Minnesota.
Speaker 8 (21:26):
Okay, you have Justin Jefferson, you got an extra receiver
and Jordan Addison. Now you're not gonna be there for
three weeks, but you got Aaron Jones, you got TJ. Howkinson,
and you got that Brian Flores defense. That's one of
the best defenses at applying fresher. The only different factor
this year to last year is the quarterback. Kevin O'Connell
is a Sean McVay Coaching Tree recipient or whatever you
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want to talk.
Speaker 4 (21:49):
That's that's him. Pair all of those guys up. That's
why JJ McCarthy is the most important guy in NFC. North. Okay, Jane,
I thought you was gonna go.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
That's the whole point.
Speaker 4 (21:59):
I want to go first.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
No, exactly, that's baby.
Speaker 4 (22:03):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
Kyle, you've taught me well. Kyle and DeMarco, you're up next.
Travis Hunter played both sides of the ball.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
Have you heard? But should he continue to play on
both sides, or should he stick to one and excel
at it. Flip the coin.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
Take your stance, please, I hope it's to Marco first,
flip it on.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
Okay, Kyle, go ahead.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
NA, two coin tosses in a row, two wins in
a row, start the clock.
Speaker 7 (22:31):
Of course, he.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
Should play both sides of the ball. It's just like
all the parents are saying in youth sports. Right now, DeMarco,
you got to avoid specialization. You gotta spread yourself out
and do different things. Corner, wide receiver. I want him
to do even more. I want Travis Hunter to return kickoffs.
I want him to kick kickoffs. All of the things
that the Jaguars did to get him. You didn't do
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it if you're just one side of the ball. And
you might say, have him play corner. They can draft
the wide receiver in the first round next year.
Speaker 7 (22:58):
No they can't.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
They spent that pick and they spent this. So he
plays both sides of the ball. Double threats. That's my man,
both sides. Go ahead, No, herd.
Speaker 4 (23:06):
Start the club? Can he? Sure? Should?
Speaker 10 (23:08):
He know?
Speaker 5 (23:09):
And I'll present this. That's a lot of meetings, Kyle.
You got to go through offense, defense, aspect teams. From
the time he walks in, You've got three people in
your ear. And consider this, like Dion and Colorado, if
he's doing everything for entire games, you're gonna have to
give him times up time off. How do you think
that plays in the locker room, especially if you're not winning.
That's tough on Liam Cohen. So I'm sure he can
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do it. What should you do it? I would think
about it.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
You have an excellent finger point, and like should he
do it? It really makes you question yourself, all right?
Speaker 3 (23:40):
Flipping out? Last round? You ready, mister? Are you ready
for this last one? Here are some fun moments from
the first week of the preseason. Take a look, take
a listen.
Speaker 7 (23:52):
Hello, come on people, it was a great throw. Whoever
said that? If you don't really know about that?
Speaker 1 (24:14):
Michael Jackson, Oh my gosh.
Speaker 4 (24:21):
What bequote? Practice?
Speaker 7 (24:23):
Such a freaking mayor border? Y'all, faith is going to
determine me?
Speaker 9 (24:28):
He is?
Speaker 3 (24:38):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (24:39):
Justin Herbert, Jameis Winston, who would you rather have miked
up all season long?
Speaker 4 (24:49):
What are we doing?
Speaker 7 (24:49):
This is really.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
Okay, Justin Herbert?
Speaker 2 (24:55):
I need you to be miked up all season long
because in the magic of television production and editing. Somehow
we just were able to make you sound as exciting
and as interesting as Jamis Wiston.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
And that is not a knock on your personality.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
It's the fact that you're kind of sneaky like that
where you know when you're miked up. And if you
really went back and listened to that Cliff, all you
heard Herbert say was hello football, take cover and some
sound effects like pew pew. I actually need to hear
him say more things. I need to discover Justin Herbert's
personality and I need it to be in a regular
season long miked up scenario.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
Manti wow wow wow.
Speaker 4 (25:30):
Okay.
Speaker 8 (25:31):
Obviously, Jameis Winston is one of the most entertaining figures
besides a football player. When he ever has a mic,
you need to.
Speaker 4 (25:39):
Be locked in.
Speaker 8 (25:40):
And the reason why he should be miked up besides
Justin Herbert is because the only reason why you want
to listen to Justin Herbert miked up is because you
wanted to listen to Jim Harball, because Jim Harvall is
going to be next to him, because Jim Harvall is
going to say something that's creative that's something that's going
to be on a tabloid.
Speaker 4 (25:55):
So I want to listen.
Speaker 8 (25:57):
To Jameis Winston because he's going to give me some gospel,
he's going to give me some energy, he's going to
give me something to laugh at.
Speaker 4 (26:02):
So I got.
Speaker 5 (26:03):
James, You got one, oh, Jamis all day every day.
Speaker 7 (26:08):
I think man tis got it.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
Jamie, your argument for Justin Herbert wanting to be miked
up is that the micd up package we just heard
of him wasn't good and he didn't say anything. That's
a tough one, you know. It's a tough angle to
go with.
Speaker 4 (26:18):
I need more.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
I go with jam Jamis as Charles Barkley potential.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
I just I would like more options to pick from
with with Justin Herbert, and I feel like if we
just add more to the pool, like we'll get there,
we'll get something.
Speaker 7 (26:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
No, he got it. They had to give him a.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
Slow motion effect to just like draw out some of
the things that he says, like he's smart, he knows
what he's doing, all right, that was flipping out. I
think I've decided something. Officially. Wide receiver is my favorite
position in football. It is past catchers because it goes
across a ton of groups. It's wide receiver's tight ends,
occasionally a running back. It's fantastic And in this time
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of year you are fat drafting for your fantasy team,
you are trying to make sure you know the two deep,
the three deep, the four deep.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
You want to know your team inside it out. So
did you catch that?
Speaker 2 (27:05):
Is a segment that I'm going to do throughout preseason
on guys that not only did they catch that, which
in the preseason you better be catching it to make
the team, but also it's their names. It's guys that
you might not know, so when you hear it on
the broadcast, you can tell your buddy, yeah, I know
that name because Jamie said it on.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
Did you Catch That?
Speaker 9 (27:20):
All?
Speaker 3 (27:21):
Right?
Speaker 2 (27:21):
Starting off with a guy in Philadelphia who, after preseason
Week one, Darius Cooper, had to stand up in front
of the local Philadelphia media and introduced himself because no
one had really done the media scram at his.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
Locker just yet.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
So Darius Cooper is from the suburbs of Saint Louis, Missouri.
He gets lightly recruited to Tarleton State the Texas. At
Tarleton State, he averaged twenty yards per catch. He goes
undrafted to the Philadelphia Eagles this offseason, and in the
preseason Week one game, he led all Eagles pass catchers
with six catches on seven targets eighty two yards and.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
This touchdown.
Speaker 8 (28:03):
Second down and one over the top got it touchdown.
Speaker 4 (28:07):
Darius Cooper auch twenty yard laser from Tanner McKee. Who's
got him in the end zone again. He's having fun tonight.
Speaker 6 (28:17):
He well, I'll have a fun tonight watch him and
Darius Cooper from Tarlton State.
Speaker 8 (28:24):
The guy had over fourteen hundred yards, sixteen touchdowns, almost
twenty yards per catch.
Speaker 5 (28:31):
He's making in stating his case to be a part
of this football team.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
Yep, Tarlton State the Texans. The only active NFL player
that is playing snaps in the regular season from Tarlton
State right now is the linebacker e J. Speed, who
actually plays for the Texans. So, Tarlton State, you might
have another guy putting your school on the map now.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
Tarlton State is of the.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
FCS and he was a first team All American as
a wide receiver. There were three last season. The other
one is Efton Chisholm. The third out of New England
the Patriots wide receiver. No, oh, that is not Wes Welker,
who would be another qualifier for a great undrafted wide receiver.
This is Efton chism the Third, five foot ten nearly
two hundred pounds. He is unmissible at practice, however, he
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was missed in the draft. Like I said, undrafted out
of Eastern Washington.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
He currently holds an FCS.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
Record out of Eastern Washington because in all fifty three
games he played in college, he caught a pass fifty
three games straight. In the preseason game Week one for
the Patriots against the Commanders, Efton chism the third, I
like to say the whole thing had six catches on
eight targets, good for a touchdown and.
Speaker 3 (29:39):
Fifty yards receiving.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
His wide receiver coach Todd Downing said, Chisholm is an
absolute joy to work with. His work ethic is second
to none.
Speaker 3 (29:46):
He's got to fight for all of his opportunities then
make the most of them.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
So, as we mentioned Darius Cooper and Efton Chislm, two
of the three FCS wide receiver All Americans from last season,
that's number two on the list. Number three, you ever
show up at a job interview and you're like, I
want this job so bad, I will wear the company's
shirt to the interview. It's like if someone wanted to
be Kyle Brandt's assistant and he wears an angry run
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shirt that he made at home to get the job.
That is what Isaac Testlaw did when he showed up
for his Detroit Lions interview.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
This is Isaac Teslaw.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
He grew up in Michigan and he has been a
lifelong Lions fan to the point when he came to
his interview out of Arkansas, he showed.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
Up in a homemade test Law Jersey.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
This is like the ring camera version in the Lions facility,
and there is Teslaw wearing a number ten made.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
Dan Campbell actually said this was kind.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
Of odd and intense and maybe a little overeager, but
apparently it worked because he went in the third round
to the Detroit Lions. He started out at Hillsdale College
the Chargers before transferring to Arkansas. Hillsdale, of course, is
in Division two in Hillsdale, Michigan, so he did not
stray far from home, like I said, a lifelong Lions
fan and now after making his homemade Jersey. He is
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making an impression on training camp, and as head coach.
Speaker 12 (31:04):
I thought he did well. I thought he played better
than he did the first week, you know. And I
would say ever since we put pads on, he's been
trending this way, you know. So that's a good sign,
is that you're getting better with pads on than the pajamas.
So that was awesome, you know.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
Dan Campbell's all about when you put the pads on.
Speaker 4 (31:25):
Now.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
Teslaw at his high school in Michigan was a long
jump record holder. So that's going to bode well if
you're a wide receiver or pass catcher, and a good
thing for Jared Goff to have in this line's offense.
Number four, let's check in elsewhere in the NFC North.
Speaker 3 (31:37):
This is John A.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
Walker, an undrafted free agent out of Texas A and M,
but he actually started his college career at Division two
Grand Valley State. In the first week of the preseason
for the Chicago Bears, he led the Bears offense with
three catches, forty one yards and a touchdown from case Keenum.
Now here's a Listen to the touchdown, but specifically pay
(31:58):
attention to the celebration potential.
Speaker 10 (32:04):
Rights touchdown for Chicago. How the up Bears hap the
lead again? The little floating fade pass for the rookie
out of Texas A and M by way of Grand
Valley states, what a play?
Speaker 7 (32:18):
Want to throw it a catch?
Speaker 3 (32:20):
Now?
Speaker 2 (32:21):
You might want this guy to make the team just
because his professionalism on the Jewbee slide. That is a
TikTok dance. That is every right now a viral sensation.
This is not the first time Joddy Walker has.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
Hit the Jewbee slide.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
It's kind of like a sideways moonwalk if you want
to translate it. He did it in an intro video
for Texas A and M. He did it, I think
when he signed with the Bears, and now he's doing
it catching touchdowns in the preseason for the Bears. So
if you like touchdowns elevations, let's hope Johnny Walker makes
a fifty three men roster. Lastly, Man Titeo and I
got to go to Chargers training camp for back together weekend.
We're watching We're watching Trey Lance, We're watching Justin Herbert.
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And there was an undrafted free agent wide receiver at
Camp Dale Von Campbell or d Camp if you will,
And this is one of these players. He is massive,
check it, six foot four, two hundred and twenty pounds
going up and getting balls from these quarterbacks for the Chargers.
Speaker 3 (33:13):
He is your classic three stop college player.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
He went from Illinois to Nevada to South Carolina before
finding his home in Los Angeles.
Speaker 3 (33:22):
Now, not only can this guy.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
Move at six foot four, two twenty, he was a
part of a relay team in Texas.
Speaker 3 (33:30):
He went to high school in Texas.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
On the four by two hundred crew that won a
Texas state title in the four by two hundred. Six
foot four, two twenty won a relay for for the
four by two hundred. I think that's fast, I think
that's big, and I think.
Speaker 3 (33:44):
That's really good for a wide receiver.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
Dale Von Campbell everybody in his two In his game
against the Saints, he had three catches sixty two yards
and he's a good, nice, big target for Justin Herbert
and this Chargers offense.
Speaker 3 (33:55):
There it is did you catch that?
Speaker 2 (33:56):
Like I said, it's not just the ball, it's the names.
Speaker 3 (33:58):
It's guys.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
Maybe they're late round flyers on your fantasy team, but
it's fun to go to the undrafted guys, the late
round go and see where they're at.
Speaker 3 (34:05):
Kyle Bryant, great job, James.
Speaker 7 (34:07):
Thank you, Yes, that was great, Jamie.
Speaker 4 (34:09):
I have all kinds of reactions.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
I think it's fascinating with the Lions that Detroit, with
their automotive history has a guy named Tesla coming in
now as a fully electric vehicle.
Speaker 4 (34:19):
But I like the story. I've been wearing his own jersey.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
There's a legendary story in Hollywood of like twenty five
years ago when they were casting the original Toby Maguire Superman,
that Freddie Prince Junior walked into the casting offices in
a full Spider Man costume to try to impress them,
be like I can play this role. Didn't work out
for Freddy. They went with Toby Maguire. But I like
that Tesla had that in him.
Speaker 7 (34:40):
The other guy.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
This is especially you guys at the table as ex
players will relate to this. Darius Cooper right out of
Tarlton State. Can we see Darius Cooper? Because I think
it is so funny that he's this wide receiver wearing
forty one in training camp.
Speaker 4 (34:55):
That is unheard of.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
There's never been a wide receiver number forty one. It
is this random number they give you when you're the
guy from Tarlton State and you got to go out
there and just make it look good.
Speaker 4 (35:04):
I looked it up at Tarlton State. He were number six.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
Six is a number for modern times that works for
wide receiver. I can't think of a wide receiver ever,
you'd have to go back to black and white when
they wear forty one. But it's like he's making it
look good. I'm going to rock this. Forty one one
of the worst number is an NFL history or sports
history outside of Derktovinski, And I'm going to make it
look good.
Speaker 4 (35:23):
And I respect that.
Speaker 7 (35:24):
Darius Cooper.
Speaker 3 (35:25):
It's Sopervi Kyle and he's the number forty one.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
When he catches a touchdown like that, it's like you
have to justify the forty one, be like, well he
is out of Tarlton State, Like you have to like it's.
Speaker 8 (35:36):
Well, James, that that was awesome. I looked up the
name Efton chisholm so e Fton. It comes from Old
English language and it means settlement by the river.
Speaker 4 (35:46):
And when I think of a settlement by.
Speaker 8 (35:48):
The river or a house or a cottage by the river,
I think of like smoke coming out the chimney and
what I've seen from fton Chishlm. He ain't afraid of
no smoke now, oh he also ain't afraid to be
on no island whatever dB you put out there. So
I thought that was brilliant. I do like ftin Chishlm.
There's a new boat, the Patriots and these receivers they
have these names Wes Welker. Yeah, it kind of lines
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up perfectly with them.
Speaker 5 (36:10):
Yeah, I'd keep the forty one. I would try to
make that hot and thirty eight. Yes, I try to
make hand them back to where I went to school.
Who was the second guy?
Speaker 4 (36:17):
Again?
Speaker 3 (36:18):
It would be it was Chism, wasn't it Darius?
Speaker 4 (36:21):
Is that the guy?
Speaker 5 (36:21):
Or Elsworth or something that's make you want to put
your pinky out when you drink, you know, and careful.
Speaker 3 (36:28):
Kyle, It's it's not Tesla. It's Tesla.
Speaker 4 (36:34):
Law.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
Your fast law sounds like like a cheap version of
a Tesla that.
Speaker 4 (36:40):
You get on a knockoff.
Speaker 7 (36:42):
I get it live.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
Did you catch that on GEOMAF You look for those
guys throughout the season?
Speaker 3 (36:50):
Animal Unearth some more as August rolls out
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