October 8, 2025 • 43 mins
Hour One of the Good Morning Football Podcast begins with the impact of Joe Flacco being traded to the Bengals. Hosts Jamie Erdahl, Kyle Brandt, Manti Te'o, and Mike Garafolo debate Cincinnati's chances in the AFC North. With 7 teams that are 4-1, which is the most compelling right now? Kyle has a beef with players dropping the ball at the goal line. Plus, Manti points out his 'Mayjah' for the week!
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
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Speaker 2 (00:11):
Let's go, everybody.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
This is Good Morning Football, presented by Old Trapper Beef
Jerky get in here, I think was the translation for
MANSI teo.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
I'm Damie Arnal.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
It's Wednesday, October eighth. Mike Carafalo and Kyle Brandt are
hanging in New York sneak. A couple of trades went
down on a Tuesday. We find one of our insiders
on a golf course. He's throwing information at us. It
was all very busy, Kyle. What else we have.
Speaker 4 (00:31):
Going on this hour?
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Yank?
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Hey, the New York Yankees had as many wins yesterday
as the Justin Giants have had combined over the last
two months.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
But we're working on it.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
We're trying to get better, right Mike, those are the.
Speaker 5 (00:44):
Parks we'd like to see that in this market.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Ye really would like to see that.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
In the meantime, big trade, high profile trade. The week
six is coming already. We're on the hamster wheel. We're
going to get started right now on Good Morning Football.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
All Rise, All Rise, Welcome to Good Morning Football, presented
by Old Trapper Kyle Brant. You started it, Mike Rfoles
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of Kyle in New York Man Titeo and I are
in La. Kyle, show us the back page of the post.
If you don't want to talk Jets are Giants, then
all rise show us the editorial decision makes sense.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
You're in, Judge. He looks like a football player.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Like you could maybe photoshop a helmet on him, a
football helmet and he would look like one. But he
is winning games for New York and I would love
to see anybody in a green or blue uniform in
the United States, Mike, or in London or the Jets
out right now. The Jets put out on their official
team Twitter, just touchdown in London and the replies are
not great.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
That's the only touchdown you're gonna have all week. Blah
blah blah.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
It's not great that one was on a team for them.
So I'm rooting for the Jets and Giants. We would
love to have them do some things that are positive here.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Absolutely, there is nothing more October than Aaron Judge just
dropping that bat and make sure that ball. It's the
fans and the ifil is so cool. What a scene
last night in New York wishing for the best for
the Jets and Giants moving forward this month and beyond.
Until then, there's some business that went down in the
AFC North yesterday and that's where we take you first
on GMFE and Rappaport joining us now to discuss a
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trade that went down inter division crime no trade rap sheet.
What happened yesterday amongst the quarterbacks.
Speaker 6 (02:27):
All right, let's start right there at the quarterbacks. And
there are a couple of trades yesterday and we will
get to all of them, but we'll start with the biggest.
Joe Flacco. We will start right there, the former starter
for the Cleveland Browns, who was of course Bench gave Way,
was the backup this week and now was traded to
the Cincinnati Bengals. You wondered what the Bengals and Chief
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of Personnel Duke togn would do over the last four
to eight hours, where.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
Would they find a starting quarterback?
Speaker 6 (02:54):
And minerstanding is they really canvas the league to try
to find one. Yesterday afternoon they set it on one.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
It was a rare intra division trade. It was Joe
flac Club.
Speaker 6 (03:04):
Going from the Cleveland Browns to the Cincinnati Bengals.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
Essentially it's Flaco and a sixth to the Bengals and
a fifth rounder.
Speaker 6 (03:11):
The value there is about a sixth rounder, which sounds
about right.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
Flack, of course, have been in the back of him,
probably was eventually going to be the three.
Speaker 6 (03:19):
If you're the Bengals, you give Joe Flacco more weapons
than he's ever had to Higgins and Jamar Chase, and
you give yourself a shot. Joe Burrow comes back in
the middle of December. If this team can just stay
alive until then, Burrow will be back. Flaco's led a
team into the playoffsays the backup before we will see
if you can do it again.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
All right, rap Chie, thank you. This was so fascinating
to watch happen. We were searching for the answer, as
were the Bengals, and it seems like they found it,
at least until they can get Joe Burrow back. Joe
Flacco stays in the state of Ohio, has to drive
a little bit south two hour drive from Cleveland to Cincinnati,
and that's where we begin with the state of the
nation between the Browns and the Bengals.
Speaker 7 (04:01):
Manti.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
When you look at this, when you inspect both teams needed,
how does this change how the Bengals now fight for
a chance to stay alive in the AFC.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Nors, Well, you can.
Speaker 8 (04:11):
Actually get the ball to the two star wide receivers.
It doesn't make sense to have all the talent and
all that money and two guys and you can't get
the ball to them. You can't get the pigskin to them.
Joe Flacco is one of the best at throwing the football,
so this does give them a chance. My only concern
is the O line. Can we keep Joe Flacco on
his feet. Joe Flacco isn't a scrambling quarterback that can
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get him out of danger, and we've seen already with
the old lines inability to keep defenses back that they
struggle to get that ball down the field.
Speaker 7 (04:40):
So that's going to be my concern.
Speaker 8 (04:41):
But the fact that they can get the ball to
Jamar Chase n T Higgins, I think that benefits Chase
Brown a lot, because Chase Brown is dynamic, explosive running back.
Speaker 7 (04:52):
He's their working horse.
Speaker 8 (04:53):
However, because defenses don't fear the passing game because they
know that the quarterbacks before couldn't get the ball to
these receivers, they would stack the box a lot So
now I think there's a more balanced approach.
Speaker 7 (05:05):
For the Cincinnati Bengals.
Speaker 8 (05:06):
Just because you signed Joe Flacco, and just because defenses
now know that you can get the ball down the field,
they're going to have to respect the two receivers a
lot more.
Speaker 7 (05:15):
And that's going to open things up for Chase Brown.
Speaker 9 (05:17):
Mic Gi, I'm gonna go basic social media reply guy
right here. And this one sort of annoys me from
time to time because the team will sign or trade for,
or acquire a guy that does something for one part
of the team, and they go, what about this other
part of the team.
Speaker 5 (05:33):
In the case of Joe Flacco, can he stop the run?
Can he rush the passer?
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Can he cover anybody?
Speaker 5 (05:39):
Yeah? Because I look at this defense and I go
not great.
Speaker 9 (05:43):
Thirtieth ranked in points, thirtieth ranked in yards, twenty ninth
against the pass, twenty fourth against the run. I can
keep going down. There are no really good numbers when
it comes to this defense here. And that was fine,
Like we sort of expected that coming into season. We
talked about how Bengal games are gonna be sixty plus
combined points, and.
Speaker 5 (06:01):
It was totally fine.
Speaker 9 (06:03):
When Joe Burrow with the back now Joe Flacco's coming in,
and yes, I believe it is going.
Speaker 5 (06:08):
To be an improvement, but it's not a drastic improvement.
Speaker 9 (06:10):
It's not enough to overcome what is happening on that
side of the ball. Well, we're gonna go turnovers from
the Bengals here, So they're the numbers there, they all are.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
We gonna add plenty more. It doesn't look great.
Speaker 9 (06:22):
I just don't know how Joe Flacco helps this team
consistently put up thirty points a game to overcome what's
happening on that side of the ball enough to stay
alive in the NFA AFT North.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
Can I do a basic Twitter response?
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Sure, a positive one, though someone might say, how about
like basic gift guy, where you just find like the
most beatn to a pulp gift. This would be so
you're saying, there's a chance Lloyd Christmas And listen, here's
how I feel about this splashy news because it's a
very familiar name with a very kind of juicy storyline.
And yesterday I was like, oh my god, I like
we all kind of were they traded for Joe Flacco.
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That's really cool.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Also, I give the credit.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
I give credits to the Bengals for doing something, just
trying something, because.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Zach Taylor was Jake Brownie and I were like, how.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Can you do this? You're gonna do this next two months?
This is miserable. So I really do credit them for
doing something. What is this gonna amount to? It's fun,
it's positive. I hate to just like completely slap the
story in the face. Joe Flacco is alleged. Joe Blackson
is nineteen in eight years. That's more than one team
a year. That's unbelievable. Nineteen and this is this whole
thing has like I always say, like it's like the
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rooster Cogburn one last job for the crusty old sheriff
who's going to clean up one more town. But his
one last job was like five jobs ago. It's unbelievable
that he's doing this. And it's also he's also another
movie trope is like isn't he going to be like
three games from not being.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Like I'm too old for this, believe like like one
of these lead the.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
Weapon thing, Like he's forty and I have to say
I'm the football Jake Browning, for all his faults, Jake
Browning is deeply entrenched in the Bengals and their offense.
He's been there for five years. He's studied under Joe,
he's studying under Zach. He knows everything about the Bengals offense.
And he's a young guy with a live arm, and
he was just getting chilla. So the replacement is a
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guy who is totally immobile, who is forty years old,
who yes, has a big arm and threw a bunch
of touchdowns in a Super Bowl like thirty years ago.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Like that's the plamb that's I'm rooting for them.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
I just don't The practical answer is is like maybe
at Joe Flacco plays five hundred football.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Let's talk about this.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
Let's say he goes five and five, which would be
really impressive. Then they're at seven and eight and Joe
Borrow runs out of the smoke and wins the last
two games, and maybe they make the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
In ninety eight. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
I just I'm gonna speak for the people here for
a second. If you're just looking for an arm to
come in and be like, screw it, what can it hurt?
There's one man you should have called and you know
it and I know it, and bring up the picture
of that man.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
It's not Joe Flacco. Bring up the man and it's
right there that why are we calling Jamis?
Speaker 1 (08:53):
Jamis is wasting away as QB three in New York
City doing nothing, and he's got that I will throw
you four touchdowns and three interceptions arm just electing Cobwebs.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
I don't care.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
If the New York Giants aren't game for that, call
them and make them, make them off.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
They can't refuse.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
Because if you want someone to just toss kerosene on
this thing and say, well, whoever's got to be out
there somewhere I'm gonna throw for five hundred yards, why
wouldn't it be Jamus Joe Flakaw.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
I respect him. He's a legend.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
That Like, are we really going to be sitting here
in December and be like, wow, Joe hands the keys
back to Joe and the Bengals?
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Unlikely? I just I don't see it.
Speaker 9 (09:30):
It's first of all, your lethal weapon reference was fantastic,
because that line about being too old for this bleep
was not lethal weapon three or four?
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Is it one? They started that way and wasn't he wasn't.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Denny Glover also like like thirty eight years old, and
something like that.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
So so so Yeah.
Speaker 9 (09:48):
That was flac oh a couple of years ago. Yeah, No,
I don't think the Giants would have done it. I'll
be honest with you. I just hey, what is what
good is he doing them?
Speaker 1 (09:55):
If dark goes down, God forbid, doesn't rush just go
back in?
Speaker 2 (09:57):
What do you hold it up?
Speaker 7 (09:59):
There?
Speaker 1 (09:59):
Share Jamis with us, share, share with we want it.
Speaker 5 (10:02):
Well, that's a guy, and that's a guy that's gonna
let it fly.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
I mean that is part of the whole.
Speaker 9 (10:06):
Flacco thing is it is credibility inside the building with
the targets right now, somebody get them the football. And
that's the thought with Joe Flacco. Jamis wouldn't be afraid
to let it fly.
Speaker 5 (10:15):
I'll tell you that much.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
All right, Well, we have to say in Cincinnati and
keep talking about the quarterbacks that are there, and we're
going to move on from Cincinnati to Cleveland. Actually, let's
go back to the fact that Dylan Gabriel coming off
as first start in London pretty cool outing against the Vikings.
Didn't result in a win, but there was some juice there. However,
I want everybody to practice an exercise with me right now,
if you're at home, if you're on your computer or
your phone, if you go to Cleveland Browns dot com
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and you toggle over to the depth chart and you
roll your eyes down to the quarterback column, there is
no more name listed at QB one.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
It's just blank. That man has been traded away.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
The next one QB two Dylan Gabriel and now QB
three shooter Center. So I guess if our brains are
operating this morning, move those two names on the right
at the top of the column over and Dylan Gabriel.
Speaker 5 (11:03):
How is it just blank?
Speaker 3 (11:04):
I feel like in the internet, guy like you got
to refresh and find that now Dylan Gabriel QB one.
We are one snap away from seeing Shador Sanders make
his debut in the regular season in the NFL. So,
man's I do to a state of the nation maybe
on the Browns quarterback and what you saw from Dylan
and the anticipation that everybody feels about seeing Shador play.
Speaker 8 (11:23):
Yeah, and I'll talk about this a little bit later
in our show with my major That was major segment.
I thought that what Tommy Rees, who's offensive coordinator for
the Cleveland Browns, did for his young QB and Dylan
Gabriel against a very good defense like the Minnesota Vikings.
I thought that it was pretty impressive, and I think
a lot of that performance and how Dylan Gabriel was
able to go out there in London and put together
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some winning drives, it gave them confidence like, Okay, I
don't need to have as big of an insurance policy
for this young man. I can have him as my starter.
I can have him without.
Speaker 7 (11:56):
Somebody lingering in the shadows.
Speaker 8 (11:59):
And so I think this says more about Dylan Gabriel
than it does Shadur Sanders. It gives confidence in knowing
that number eight went out there and did what we
needed him to do.
Speaker 7 (12:07):
Now where do we go from here?
Speaker 8 (12:08):
And that's something that I think played into this decision.
Speaker 4 (12:11):
My chief.
Speaker 9 (12:13):
Ian Rappaport reported the other day that Chador Sanders is
expected to play at some point later this season, and
the reaction from a lot of folks was like, wait
a minute, Dylan Gabriel hasn't even played a game. You're
saying that maybe he's not necessarily going to be good
enough to hold the.
Speaker 5 (12:26):
Job for the rest of the season. That's kind of
a weird thing.
Speaker 9 (12:28):
But I do think that there's an element of and
I can't get out of my head. When I went
to Brown's training camp, that was the day that Jimmy
has spoke to the media. It was the first time
the owner had spoken, along with his wife d to
the media since the draft. And he said, if you
told me the morning of the third day of the draft, I.
Speaker 5 (12:49):
Guess you said.
Speaker 9 (12:49):
It was the night when he went home that night
after day two, after they had taken Dylan Gabriel, We're
going to take Shador Sanders to mar I said, no way,
absolutely not. Then they get there and Andrew Berry and
the brass are talking about it and the possibility, and
it became a thing.
Speaker 5 (13:02):
And he said that was and Andrew Berry, and a lot.
Speaker 9 (13:04):
Of folks said, whoa wait a minute, what was that about.
Speaker 5 (13:08):
Put that one on the general manager.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
So I think at some point before the.
Speaker 9 (13:11):
End of the season, and there's still some seasoning that
needs to happen and some work that's happening behind the
scenes with two door Sanders, at least.
Speaker 5 (13:16):
The Browns feel that way, he's got to get on
the field. I think that's part of the plan.
Speaker 9 (13:20):
And I don't think that they think, oh, this is
going to be a playoff team at this point, so
there will be an opening even if Dylan Gabriel plays
well to get you door Sanders on the field to
say this is why we did.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
What we did on day three of the draft.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
They just circled the whole thing in beyond there was
a buffer. When Dylan Gabriel starts his first game, Chador
was deliberately the number three, and I thought that was
a savvy thing because the masses and the Chador fans
the second thing, he's number two, they're one play away
or not only one turn ankle away, just one interception
away put in Shador. Put in Chador, by the way,
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one interception that Dylan Gabriel did not throw and played
a turnover free game on the road on a different
continent against it Brian Flores defense that everybody on this
show and everybody else thought was just gonna eat them
alive look pretty good. And the way that Shador never
plays this year is if Dylan Gabriel just ascends and
just looks like the franchise quarterback potentially they drafted him
to be.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
But the game's changed now.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
The game's changed in the whole Shador media experience, now
it's just he's there, he's lingering. He's like the dessert
you can already see when you're trying to eat your vegetables.
Let's look get to it. It's feel like if Dylan
Gabriel has a rough game or a rough series, especially
at home, the massive start. They start on your computer,
they start on your phone.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Let's see Shadour.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
There's such a hunger to see Shadour play in this
regular season game. Then now you feel like Gabriel has
this extra pressure not only in everything football, but just
between the ears and in the stands.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
It's all changed.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
Flacco is like the babysitter of these two rookies, and
you just go to old Flacco and he's trusted, independable.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Now it's the upside down.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
And I don't know, Mike, I don't know if the
plan is to like, at some point we'll see Shadoor.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
What if Dylan Gabriel is just good.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
And he's the third round pick and they win half
their games and he's like that's something to build on.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
Does he play?
Speaker 1 (15:04):
And if he doesn't play, is everyone just frustrated and
feel like something was taken from them Because everyone feels.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
So attached to sedure.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
It's messy, it's complicated, and I think if only the
only positive I can really see is the Browns are like,
we're going to roll with these two rookies, come hell
or high water. We're gonna lose the babysitter and let
the kids take care of themselves. It's really interesting for
a bad one and four team that I can't wait
to watch.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
Well, you reach a certain age where you're convincing your
parents that you should be able to stay at home alone,
and like, whether or not it goes well, you're taking
five dollars out of your dad's pocket to pay for
the pizza when it shows up, Like, you got to
make some decisions moving forward, and how it works. MESSI
and complicated was an interesting word to use for the
Browns because I think that could be a broader spectrum
Ian rapaport for the AFC North as a whole. You
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could apply it to the Baltimore Ravens. You could apply
it to the trade that just went down. This entire
division is curious to us officially, So what else is going.
Speaker 7 (15:54):
On with the Ravens.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Yeah, let's start right there.
Speaker 6 (15:57):
Lamar Jackson, their starting quarterbacks still I would say status
very much in doubt for this Sunday's game. Of course,
missed this week's game with the hamstring injury. We will
see if he's able to play this week. Seems to
me like a bit of an uphill battle. He's got
the buy next week if you get an extra week
of rest. Seems more likely than not that we get
Cooper rushed on Sunday, but obviously it is Lamar Jackson
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is a former MVP.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
We are going to be watching.
Speaker 6 (16:21):
Speaking of former well, former Ravens this time Odell Beckham Junior.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
You guys remember him.
Speaker 4 (16:25):
He was a receiver. He played for the Giants.
Speaker 6 (16:27):
He had that catch at center football was a crazy catch,
only used one hand. Anyway, he was back in the
news yesterday. He talked to The Pivot, which is an
awesome show, and admitted that he tested positive for PDS
and was going to accept a six game PV suspension.
So that suspension started yesterday, which is interesting. It actually
could have started to begin the regular season, so he
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would have already served five games, but he didn't be
serving it now.
Speaker 4 (16:53):
So Odell Beckham Junior.
Speaker 6 (16:55):
Who wants to play this year, hopes to play, won't
be able to join the team until December. And then
there was a trade you mentioned Adafe Oway, the first
round on edge for the Baltimore Ravens. He got ten
sacks us years, certainly someone who we thought was big
time in the Ravens future. He was traded to the
Los Angeles Chargers.
Speaker 4 (17:15):
It was Way and a five for.
Speaker 6 (17:17):
A low high Gilman, a safety and a no, I'm
sorry it was it was and a seven for Gilman
and a five. The raven gets some depth in the
secondary and the starter who can really hit the ground running,
Oway gets a fresh start and gives some help on
the edge for the Charger.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
All right, rap sheet, appreciate you. Listen, there's a handful
of teams that are sitting in the NFL right now.
Who are four and one? And if I'm holding my
waye Ford and if it's the midway through workweek, you
got it right. It's whiteboard Wednesday time. All right, compelling
four and one teams, we are going to talk about you,
amongst other questions and our whiteboard Wednesday topic, Lyons, Eagles, Kyle,
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oh my, what else we got?
Speaker 2 (17:56):
Well?
Speaker 1 (17:56):
This keeps happening, and by this I'm talking about guys
dropping the ball before they score. Used to happen every
once in a while on the show. Jackson would do it,
we'd all have a laugh. It has already happened twice
this season. It happened twice last season. It's costing teams games,
it's getting coaches fined. It's really really weird, and I
want to dig in into the why, why is this happening?
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Why the players do it? We're going between the Ears,
We're going on the field that drops all kinds of
stuff on the show that they don't go anywhere.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
Good Football, Whiteboard Wednesday. Grab your board marker and you're
eraser first. On tap four and one teams. There are
seven of them remaining in the NFL, three from the
AFC and four from the NFC. And those little asterisks
that sit here on the side because these two teams
play each other, so someone will fall specifically between the
Bucks and the forty nine ers, unless we have another tie,
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which that's for a different segment.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
Manta, who is the.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
Most compelling of the seven remaining four and one teams?
Speaker 2 (19:03):
Well, let's keep that up.
Speaker 7 (19:04):
James.
Speaker 8 (19:04):
You got Bills, coach, Jags, Eagles, Lines, Books, Niners. Every
one of those teams has their franchise quarterback, every one
of those teams have their franchise tight end, all their
wide receivers, and their franchise d n There's only one
that doesn't, and.
Speaker 7 (19:18):
That's the San Francisco forty nine ers. And yet there's
still four and one.
Speaker 8 (19:21):
And that's not the only thing that separates them, but
they're the only team that has played three divisional opponents
in the first five weeks and being all of them.
Speaker 7 (19:29):
They're three to zero.
Speaker 8 (19:30):
In the NFC Wes, leading the NFC West in this race.
Speaker 7 (19:35):
To the playoffs.
Speaker 8 (19:36):
So if I had to choose out of all of
those teams, that's been the most impressive.
Speaker 7 (19:40):
I got to say that as a San.
Speaker 8 (19:41):
Francisco forty nine Ers because with all the things that
they've been dealt with, all the pieces that aren't playing,
they're still finding ways to win the game.
Speaker 7 (19:48):
So I got San Francisco. My gip.
Speaker 9 (19:51):
When you say compelling, I think absolute cinema, meaning I
need personalities and I need storylines, and the Jacksonville Jaguars
have got it. Yes, that's a lot of l's not
used because it's duval.
Speaker 5 (20:03):
That's the way it's supposed to be said.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
Down there wrong.
Speaker 9 (20:05):
I know the way it's supposed to be, said No Hall.
Liam Cohen said it at his opening press conference. He's
one of the personalities for me. I've also got a
quarterback that is just like a leading man in a
football movie. He looks like Ronnie Bass. That is Trevor Lawrence.
I've got a Devin Lloyd sticking it to his own team.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
You don't want to pick up my fifty year option.
Speaker 9 (20:26):
Watch this, the pending free agent said as he became
the or the AFC Defensive Player of the Month in September.
Is up to a great start with this interception in October.
I've got a two way player. You don't never see those.
And I've got a head coach that he's got emotions
on the sideline that you saw.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
After this play.
Speaker 9 (20:44):
Jaguar has got everything you could ask for. This was
to me the litmus test for three games at home. Here,
three tough games.
Speaker 7 (20:51):
They're one to zero in that stretch.
Speaker 5 (20:53):
So far, they are compelling to me.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
Well, you say cinema, I hear cinema as entertainment. I
hear compelling as entertainment. I know people like to whine
and complain sometimes about this game sowed.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
These teams are so bad.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
If you really want value for your entertainment moment entertainment dollar,
it's the Tampa Bay Bakerneers. That's who you want to
watch every single week. Do you understand you can't miss
You have to get the Buccaneers game in. They're in
the late window this weekend against Manti San Francisco team.
So at about six forty five Eastern on Sunday, get
(21:25):
to a TV. Whether it be Red Zone, whether it's CBS,
whatever it is, let me just give you the rundown
of the Tampa Bay Bakeroneers. This year, they have won
by three, one, two and three.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
The only game that they have lost was.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
Against Philadelphia and it had a ridiculous block and it
was all kinds of crazy nastiness. At the end of
the game, it was wildly entertaining. So maybe Baker's for you,
maybe he's not. It doesn't matter. They're awesome to watch
and you will be glad you spent part of your
Sunday watching them the late window.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
A couple of minutes left to go in the game.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
Maybe they win, maybe they lose, and by the way,
you get added bonus at the cream school thing. It's
it's all a win. This is the team you want
to watch. Compelling as hell, and Kyle.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
Just said a little spice to it. Baker Mayfield's never
beat the forty nine ers. He's zero to four. It's
actually the worst record that he holds against another organization
in his career. So, as he said, get to about
the fourth quarter and watch the rest of the Buccaneers
forty nine Ers game.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
Next up.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
After the Patriots prolific Sunday night football win over the
Buffalo Bill, Stefan Diggs had high praise for his young quarterback.
Take listen, you told us that this guy right here
reminds you of a young Josh Allen.
Speaker 9 (22:29):
Did you see those stiff arms and what this guy
was doing tonight?
Speaker 2 (22:31):
Yet he was running around, he was making plays. You
can't say it didn't look Josh Allen like.
Speaker 7 (22:35):
But that's Drake may.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
He's his own man, He's his own version. But that
is a pretty cool comparison Manti and the rest of
you guys in New York. Take a current quarterback and
then pull a quarterback from NFL history that he reminds
you of Manti.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
Europe.
Speaker 8 (22:50):
First, well, this is fun because this little interchangebole quarterback situation,
I can be done on so many different levels. I
got Jared goff and Kurt Warner. That's the comparison that
I'm making, not just how they.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Throw the ball. They're extremely accurate, one of.
Speaker 8 (23:02):
The most beautiful balls that you see in the spirals
that you see on this on both of these quarterbacks.
But they both started with the Rams. They both made
it to Super Bowls. Now, Kurt Warner did win his
Super Bowl, whereas Jared Goffin and the La Rams at
that time came up short to the Patriots, but then
they got kind.
Speaker 7 (23:18):
Of written off and then they go to another team.
Speaker 8 (23:21):
Kurt Warner went to the Cardinals, and then Jared Goffi
is now with the Detroit Lions, and they've changed the
whole culture over there. So I like the two stories
between these two quarterbacks.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
I like how.
Speaker 8 (23:31):
They kind of remind me, remind me of how they
throw the ball. They're very smart. But then also their
storylines are very similar. So I've got Jared goff and
Kurt Warner.
Speaker 9 (23:40):
I'm going and I'm not certainly at the first to
do this. Josh Allen and John Elway, Josh and John
the big arm, the ability to put it anywhere on
the field, the ability to scramble as well, certainly look
very similar when they have those scrambles going on there.
I always think of, you know, the the quarterbacks when
I was growing up as the Marino Montana, Elway, Kelly, Like,
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who would I like to see in this era?
Speaker 2 (24:04):
Who I think could fit great?
Speaker 9 (24:05):
I think John Ellwie would fit perfectly in this era
of football.
Speaker 5 (24:09):
What would it look like.
Speaker 9 (24:09):
I think it would look a lot like Josh Allen
to me, that's a comparison.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
Yeah, and Lway would constantly have these great runs and
get to the super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
There's because Door's blown off.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
Josh Allena has not gotten to the super Bowl, but
they usually end up losing in the playoffs. And Mansie,
you're talking about Goff and Warner. There's a very very
short list of quarterbacks who have started a Super Bowl
for two different teams. It's like Peyton and it's Brady
Kurt Warner like he would be in a very very
exclusive club if he got the lines to one. But
I'm going back to Baker Mayfield, and I've said this before,
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Baker Mayfield, it's two of them equals Brett Farv plus
Doug Flutie that if they got together in a lab
and had some kind of product that came from them.
Farv and Fluty wildly watchable, charismatic, kind of a smile,
always like kind of a Sandlot factor to him. A
tragedy and a triumph here and there, and it's like
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just both of them. You liked flooty, diminutive Baker and
not as short as that, but there's some of that
going on, just the guy who is like, you know,
he just ripped my favorite team's heart out. But he's
pretty cool and fun. I grew up a Bears fan
with my family and we loved Farv. We just couldn't
help it. He was too cool and too likable. I
know he's taking a lot of shots self imposed in
many ways off the field in the last few years,
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but there's really never been a more watchable quarterback in
the NFL. And Doug Flutia is right up there to Baker.
Mayfield is bar plus Flutie.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
I want to go to that football lab where we
can just combine two players from history and see where
it spits out. All right, last one yesterday Kyle was
on the line with one of our favorite fans of GMFB, Renee,
and that is pronounced as the actress that Kyle Brant
knows so well, Renee Rousseau, and put her on the
spot a little bit to find an answer to a
question that she didn't know.
Speaker 7 (25:45):
I'm going to test now.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
This is my producer's notes say that this caller is Renee,
and it literally says in the doc pronounced like Renee Russo,
that producer knows me.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
I know Renee Russo, Renee in Wisconsin.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
On the Texans, Renee, first of all, I'm going to
put you on the spot. What is your favorite Renee
Russo movie? And then tell us about the Texans.
Speaker 8 (26:03):
Go, oh, Jesus, I can't even think of a Renee
Russol movie right now talking about that.
Speaker 7 (26:11):
I'm happy that the excuse.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
Me, just go, just go? Do you you got twelve seconds?
Speaker 3 (26:19):
And to give you a cinematic ending to that twelve seconds,
Renee stuck the landing on her take about the Texans.
Just shout out to Renee once again today, Manti Renee
Russo's best role in your IMDb brain as well.
Speaker 8 (26:30):
Yes, my brain is faently young. So I got for
the dark world where she plays the Queen. She plays
Thor and Loki's mother, and she has this bad like
Mama Jama like fight scene where she fights Melkif. At
the end she loses because Meliciff gets some help.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
But she was regal.
Speaker 7 (26:46):
She was very royal in this film, So I got
for the dark world.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
That's to the Queen, just.
Speaker 7 (26:52):
A good one.
Speaker 5 (26:53):
I'm going I'm going.
Speaker 9 (26:54):
To outbreak here, and it's really not a great In
the end, she needs the guy to save the day,
which is one of those movie cliches. They tried to
bust and froze, so CARMENVIV if you're home, don't watch
that in that regard, But the movie itself, when you
watch it post covid.
Speaker 5 (27:10):
Man, it hits differently.
Speaker 9 (27:11):
They're like, hey, there's nineteen hundred residents in this town.
I want them all accounted for, and Dustin Hoffman saying, no,
they're not home.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
I just drove through a hundred of them right there.
Speaker 9 (27:20):
Watch Outbreak post covid if you haven't, it hits different.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
It's skyrocketed on screaming and screaming and screaming. Probably in
twenty twenty, Donald Suthn's like, we just have to bomb
the town, whole town. I don't know, don't He's like,
we can't let them up bomb them.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
It was really tough.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
And then Dustin Off is like, I got the vaccine.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
Don't bomb him, drop the bomb. It's so scary.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
All right, this is the deepest cut of all time.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
In when I was in.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
Fifth grade, I went to the movie theater and saw
a movie.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
I don't know if you'll know this, Mike. I saw
a movie called Mister Destiny. Yeah, star Mister Destiny.
Speaker 9 (27:53):
It's a Bellushi Shimalushi, all right.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
Mister Destiny is a story about a baseball player who
messes up a game and it ruins his whole life.
So his guardian angel who's pipe by Mike Op comes
and says, like, what if I gave you a chance
to redo it? All goes back to the baseball game,
hits the home run or whatever, and then he marries
Renee Russo and everything's incredible, and it tries to teach
you lessons about.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
Like that's not really the way to live life. You
got to just go on with.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
Your shortcomings in your faults. Weird movie, but like so
nineteen ninety it hurts and I feel like it's set
off the Reneaissance of it, like she was just showing
up in everything. Fantastic elegance, beautiful, talented guys. I promise
there's not any show in the world right now, let
alone a football show that's talking about Mister Destiny starring
Jim Belushi. But I stand by it. It's a fun movie,
(28:39):
especially when you're eleven.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
You remember what.
Speaker 9 (28:40):
Song was playing when Linda Hamilton got into the car accident.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
Remember that one?
Speaker 7 (28:44):
I don't, and.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
I love that Linda Hamilton was in it just a
year before Terminator two.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
Right, it feels like your destiny to do Michae ocaine
impressions now Michain okay, I.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
Say my cocaine and it sounds like Mike okay.
Speaker 10 (29:02):
So the NFL Way to Play Awards are Gatorade and
they were created to recognize and reward players who lead
by example using proper playing technique. The Week five winner
is a second round pick out of Texas. He's a
rookie who came up clutch for the forty nine ers
on Thursday Night.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
And with more, here's.
Speaker 10 (29:18):
A longtime NFL defensive coach and current SEP of Officiating,
Perry Fuel with a.
Speaker 11 (29:24):
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number ninety five. After Collins delivered a game change and
play a game and a colis in, Collins engaged in
a double team block, demonstrating the exceptional technique in strength.
He split the double team block with a powerful striking shad,
reading the running backs path. Collins quickly adjusted his pursuit arms,
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closing the gap with an impressive burst, Collins delivered a
perfect time punch with his right hand, knocking the ball loose.
He displayed elite awareness, hustle and finding the football, securing
the recovery at the two yard line. This sequence showed
Collins mastery of defensive fund of mills and preserved the
lead in a high pressure in the.
Speaker 10 (30:06):
Hey said I can do battle by myself. For his
terrific way to play, the NFL Foundation will award a
five thousand dollars equipment grant and that's through USA Football
to a youth or high school program of collins choice.
To learn more about the NFL Way to Play, check
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back on GMFB.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
Good mon, I got a text for my mom this week,
who loves football, and she said, why did these players
keep dropping the ball before they score?
Speaker 2 (30:45):
I don't understand it, Mom, neither do I.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
Nobody does, because it used to just happen every once
in a while and Deshaun Jackson would do it and
we'd laugh. But now we've only played five games in
the NFL and it's already happened twice this season, and
in both cases it has cost the team the game.
So what I'm really trying to figure out is the
why why did these players drop the ball before the
goal line?
Speaker 2 (31:04):
Is especially players who.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
Have scored countless touchdowns throughout their football careers and should
be very comfortable before we ask the question.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
Let's get into the examples.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
You saw it this past week one of the strangest
worst losses of all time. Arizona Cardinals Amrio de Mercado,
Jay Mercado, a great, great story. He breaks away and
he is going to make this amazing touchdown. The Cardinals
is going to win the game, and he just drops it.
He drops the ball. Amar Demarcado, in his football career, pro's, college,
and high school, has scored fifty touchdowns. This would have
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been number fifty one. He's been there before.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
His explanation said it was emotional, it was a big play.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
Afterwards, Kyler Murray, who's very close with him on the team, said,
I don't get it.
Speaker 7 (31:46):
Mario's one of the closest dudes I am. You know,
I'm really close with Mario.
Speaker 11 (31:49):
I know his character, I know his IQ of the game,
and never in a million years last you know, I
wouldn't think that Amario would do that, but obviously we
all make mistakes.
Speaker 7 (31:58):
You know, he's going to take that on the chant.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
He understands that. When was the last time it happened.
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
Last week, Cold sprams in a very tight game, Adami Mitchell.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
Makes a brilliant play and then does this at the
goal line.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
Adni Mitchell has scored thirty five touchdowns in his football career.
He was more of a trying to transfer the ball
to maybe raise it and he drops it.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
Quote after the game, I just lost focus. It's so strange.
Happened twice this year. Guess what, guys, it happened twice
last year.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
Let's go to someone who's always scoring touchdowns from the
same franchise. Twenty twenty four, Jonathan Taylor in week fifteen,
is doing the Jonathan Taylor thing, and he's about to score.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
He just drops it casually.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
This was not transferring the ball, This was not trying
to raise it to celebrate.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
He dropped it. It's a fumble.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
Jonathan Taylor had scored at that point one hundred and
fifty seven touchdowns in his career. He says afterwards that
he was not consciously aware that he was dropping the ball.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
He should be very comfortable. He does this like you
and I tyre shoes.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
He scores touchdowns and still he drops it inexplicably.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
Also last year.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
Week nine, the Halloween game the Jets, Malachi Corley, young
player drops the ball, same thing. He just casually dropped.
This one was not close. Is not close. Malachi Corley
at that point in his career, scored forty touchdowns throughout
high school, college and the pros. Afterwards, he says, I
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don't know, as this wasn't a defining moment for me.
Let's ask his quarterback last season. Let's see if he
has something uplifting to say.
Speaker 6 (33:37):
Yeah, we have a touchdown called you know, taking off
the board, silly play.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
I mean, he's not wrong.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
Also last year Bengals safety Jordan Battle a scoop and score.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
Jordan, what about the score part?
Speaker 1 (33:51):
You gotta get it over the goal line? Nope, drops
it knew it was happening in one of the most
Bengals plays you'll ever see. A guy who had already
scored six touchdowns, including three at Alabama. He said, I
wasn't throwing the ball down. I was just trying to
switch it to my other hand and it fell. It
slipped out of my glip. Let me ask a question, Jordan,
Why were you trying to switch it to the other hand.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
Why just run and get the six points? They ended
up winning the game, thankfully.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
Next, Oh, wait, hold on, if you're gonna do this,
Mike Garatfolo, don't do it when you're doing in season
hard knocks, because there's gonna be brilliant video of everyone's reaction.
Speaker 7 (34:25):
Roller.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
Now, Battle did fumble it as he got right across
the goal line.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
Wait wait, wait, here we go, here we go.
Speaker 9 (34:38):
Take the touchdown off to board and it's Tennessee football again.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
Bro, I didn't know what just happened. Bro, I don't
we score?
Speaker 7 (34:46):
Then?
Speaker 2 (34:46):
I see Zach face?
Speaker 7 (34:47):
Like, what's Zach face? Completely changed? Why he dites an
hand zone and.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
I didn't see what happened.
Speaker 6 (34:54):
I just looked at I turned around and looked at
Zach face.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
Zach face was like, that's.
Speaker 1 (34:58):
Crazy, bro. But now we're not even shocked when it
happens anymore. You want to go old one. There's Joe
Flacco twenty teams ago. He gets picked up by Danny
Trevathan and watch this. I mean, Danny, you're at the
three yard line.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
And you drop that.
Speaker 9 (35:11):
It's not even not even close.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
Now, it's a defensive player who had never scored a
touchdown in the pro's, college or high school. That would
have been his first career touchdown. Danny said afterwards. I
was just in the moment.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
Yeah, but you were barely in the red zone when
you drop that thing. This is an unbelievable thing.
Speaker 1 (35:25):
But at least it's an offensive guy who got really excited.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
Let's go to the goat.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
There at a two thousand and eight Let's go to
the goat a guy who had already done it in
a high school All star game. This is the Shan
Jackson's first career touchdown.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
Until it wasn't.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
He throws it backwards against the pass from McNabb and
chucks it.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
He had never scored before, but.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
He had scored fifty six times at Cow.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
And I believe Long Beach Polly because Shan.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
Jackson says, ah, I'm not even worried about it.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
Well, you know who was kind.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
Of worried about it, Big Red, back when it was
Big Green.
Speaker 7 (35:56):
Oh.
Speaker 9 (35:57):
He just needs to learn from that to make sure
he gets across the line, you know, gets across.
Speaker 7 (36:00):
Goal line and can't do that by the way down.
Speaker 3 (36:05):
Hey, he played his herd out, you know, he played
his hard out just a little bit short.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
So we can just roll the highlights and have some
laughs and we have. But again, why is this happening?
I thought Connor Orr from the S side did a
great job. He found a University of Michigan professor of
psychology this week to be like, why is this happening?
And there's something called a multitasking deficit and I'm paraphrasing here,
in which the player has the goal of scoring and
as they passed the last defender passed the last official,
it sets off stimuli that activate the goal of celebrating
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and the wires get crossed. My very humble opinion, I
believe that there is a release for some players when
they cross the goal line or when they think that
they did where from the time they get the ball
or catch the ball, it is so intense psychologically and physically,
and you're battling and battling, and finally there's this I
did it.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
I scored for you and I It's.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
Akin to dropping your luggage at the front door of
your house after a long trip. But you can't do
it out on the street. You have to actually get
into the house before you drop it. Mike, I think
the strangest thing isn't that it's the defensive guys like Trabathan.
It's the guys like Jonathan Taylor who do this every
single day and should feel comfortable scoring. That's my best
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explanation of why it's happening.
Speaker 2 (37:14):
But apparently it's not stopping.
Speaker 5 (37:15):
That's great.
Speaker 9 (37:16):
Good job by Connor or that must have been so
busy formulating that that he forgot to set his fantasy
football lineup.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
For three straight weeks.
Speaker 9 (37:22):
He's in my fantasy Oh really for like three straight weeks,
Tyron Tracy. He's got five guys currently that are not
going to play this week. Set your lineup or thanks
for the opening. I would like to see de Marcado.
De Marcado score this weekend right and have the ball
in his hands and like two hands into the end
zone all the way through, all the way to the sideline,
dudes trying to pry it out, sit down on the
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bench like.
Speaker 5 (37:45):
This, just with the football at this point.
Speaker 2 (37:47):
It's great.
Speaker 5 (37:47):
I think there's a chance for redemption there.
Speaker 9 (37:49):
Jonathan Gannon was fined one hundred thousand for his reaction
on the sideline there, which a lot of folks who
lost in Survivor will probably have the same reaction as well.
Speaker 5 (37:57):
Would have liked to have done that and more.
Speaker 9 (38:00):
But I think that there's a reset there with the leadership.
Paris Johnson Junior, who doesn't get enough credit for what
he does both as a football player and as a
leader on the team, had his hand on De Marcado's
shoulder again and was coming up. They really have tried
to rally around this moment there, and I think it
potentially could be a rallying moment for the Arizona Cardinals
moving forward here. That's what I'm inter FDNT.
Speaker 8 (38:21):
See kab you said, the psychologist said, what was wires?
We are getting crossed when something happens. What was the
explanation again.
Speaker 1 (38:29):
They get caught up in the moment, and it's that
you have a goal of scoring and then you transfer
to the goal of celebrating and it happens too early
because of the adrenaline and the stimulation in your brain
that was there.
Speaker 7 (38:40):
When it makes sense, it happens to me a lot
on this show.
Speaker 8 (38:43):
There's a goal of scoring on my segments, and then
my wires get cross and then the stuttering happens and
I start.
Speaker 7 (38:49):
To fumble a little bit. So I get it makes
sense to me, Jamie.
Speaker 3 (38:52):
I'm glad that you were able to justify it. I
appreciate the luggage analogy, and man say, you're able to
find the parallel as well. I like that sound bite
from Andy Reid. What a cool, calm and classy way
to address that fact that like, yeah, he'll.
Speaker 7 (39:05):
Learn from it.
Speaker 3 (39:06):
Yeah, I don't understand why we're calling guys character or
IQ into it and when all of a sudden it's
like he made a mistake. I think at the top
of the list of people that know they made the
mistake is going to be the guy in which who
made that poor decision at the goal line. So I
appreciate Big Red from even years ago.
Speaker 7 (39:22):
Kyle Young big Red too.
Speaker 1 (39:23):
Yeah, it's happening so commonly that it's like the coaches
have to spend time on it now. It reminds me
of players We're diving for the pylon and fumbling, and
Belichick among others saying we're not doing that anymore.
Speaker 2 (39:34):
Don't do that.
Speaker 1 (39:35):
Do you really have to take practice time or meeting
time to say, guys run through the end line? Our
guy will not be a guy who drops the ball
at the end zone. Twice already this year, twice last year.
It is not an anomaly. It's happening all the time,
and I hope it never happens again.
Speaker 7 (39:49):
It's now time for that was major.
Speaker 8 (39:51):
This week, I'm going to highlight somebody that who I
played with my last two years at Notre Dame. Tommy
Reese was my quarterback. Now Tommy Reese, after ten years
of fighting through the college ranks and the pro ranks,
is now the offensive coret nator for the Cleveland Browns.
And after watching this past game when he took a
rookie quarterback in Dylan Gabriel to face one of the
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most disruptive defenses in the Minnesota Vikings. I was extremely
impressed with some of these details. Right here, you're going
to see a play. This is a this is a
simple RPO play which run pass option. But Tom Reese
is going to extend these receivers all the way to
the top of the screen. What's that's going to do
is that's going to force the defense to reveal their
hand a little bit. For Dylan Gabriel, it's going to
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be easy math. There's three receivers out there, there's four
defenders here. Hand the ball up to Quinchawn Judkins and
let him get easy nine yards. Just like that, simple read,
simple decision for a rookie quarterback. Now they're going to
go down to the goal line next play, and he's
going to start utilizing some formation and some motion. He's
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going to have this receiver that as at the top
left of your screen here, He's going to motion him down.
What does that do? That makes it so easy for
Dylan Gabriel to figure out what coverage.
Speaker 7 (41:04):
The Minnesota Vikings are.
Speaker 8 (41:05):
You see how there's Minnesota Vikings defenders on every single
wide receiver. It's like Oprah when she's like you get
a car, you get a car. You get a car.
You have a defender. You have a defender. You wouldn't
have a defender. They're gonna motion this receiver down to
right here by this tight end, and right then Dylan
Gabriel is gonna know they're in man coverage and this
natural pickplay that they have designed for Harold Fannon Junior
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to get open is gonna be wide open as it is.
Speaker 7 (41:31):
He throws the ball to a wide.
Speaker 8 (41:32):
Open rookie touchdown, Cleveland Brown, seven points. Great job, Tommy,
great job, Dylan. Now for the last play, they're gonna
spread out this defense and they're gonna see with motion
how they're able to react.
Speaker 7 (41:48):
Can I get that next play?
Speaker 5 (41:49):
Please?
Speaker 7 (41:50):
You're gonna see Harold Fannin Jr.
Speaker 8 (41:52):
Motion out outside of this outside of this receiver, and
he's gonna watch how these guys wreck. The defense has
two options. One, Assi motions out. This corner can neither
bounce out. If he does that, Dylan Gabriel knows they're
in zone.
Speaker 7 (42:06):
But as he.
Speaker 8 (42:06):
Bounces out, you see how Matellus follows him.
Speaker 2 (42:10):
It's man coverage.
Speaker 7 (42:11):
And I have a six and forty five pound tight end.
Speaker 8 (42:15):
Against a five to eleven one and ninety pound safety
and I'm going to go to that guy nine times
out of ten. I was extremely impressed with how my
former quarterback put his rookie quarterback in positions to be
successful against a very very good defense in the Minnesota Vikings.
Speaker 7 (42:31):
And I thought that that was major.
Speaker 2 (42:33):
Good job, Tommy, thank gone, nks job.
Speaker 1 (42:36):
Man.
Speaker 3 (42:36):
Why look at how tacked up your That was major
MANTHI good segment got Jim cow Brant. What do you
think of that was major? I know you hate spelling it.
What do you think?
Speaker 1 (42:46):
No, it's fine. I'm fascinated by Tommy Reese. I remember
him as a Notre Dame quarterback. He is friends with
my little brother. I knew when he was a high
school kid, and I want to know more about your relationship.
But then, what do you think his future is? Mantad
because he's been all over the place.
Speaker 8 (42:58):
I think it's so smart with with with Tommy Reese
and what they're doing right now with quarterbacks. I think
there's there's starting to be a little carry over and
spill over from the college game and incorporating some of that,
and Tommy is a perfect man for the job. Absolutely,
I thought it was awesome.
Speaker 5 (43:12):
When was this move while he was walking?
Speaker 9 (43:14):
Were you reporting eligible?
Speaker 2 (43:16):
Reporting eligible? Put me in the game, Tommy, put me
in the game.
Speaker 7 (43:19):
Give me a pick for let me get a touchdown.
Speaker 10 (43:22):
Say awesome that he really said it's quarterback, got for success,
that he knows that position.
Speaker 7 (43:27):
Make it simple, Make it simple, don't complicate it God
and Joku. That's like the easiest answer on the plan.
Speaker 2 (43:32):
Yeah, old one ever going to take Stitch for
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Parks we'd like to see that in this market.
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Ye really would like to see that.
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If you don't want to talk Jets are Giants, then
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Speaker 2 (01:28):
You're in, Judge. He looks like a football player.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Like you could maybe photoshop a helmet on him, a
football helmet and he would look like one. But he
is winning games for New York and I would love
to see anybody in a green or blue uniform in
the United States, Mike, or in London or the Jets
out right now. The Jets put out on their official
team Twitter, just touchdown in London and the replies are
not great.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
That's the only touchdown you're gonna have all week. Blah
blah blah.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
It's not great that one was on a team for them.
So I'm rooting for the Jets and Giants. We would
love to have them do some things that are positive here.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Absolutely, there is nothing more October than Aaron Judge just
dropping that bat and make sure that ball. It's the
fans and the ifil is so cool. What a scene
last night in New York wishing for the best for
the Jets and Giants moving forward this month and beyond.
Until then, there's some business that went down in the
AFC North yesterday and that's where we take you first
on GMFE and Rappaport joining us now to discuss a
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trade that went down inter division crime no trade rap sheet.
What happened yesterday amongst the quarterbacks.
Speaker 6 (02:27):
All right, let's start right there at the quarterbacks. And
there are a couple of trades yesterday and we will
get to all of them, but we'll start with the biggest.
Joe Flacco. We will start right there, the former starter
for the Cleveland Browns, who was of course Bench gave Way,
was the backup this week and now was traded to
the Cincinnati Bengals. You wondered what the Bengals and Chief
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of Personnel Duke togn would do over the last four
to eight hours, where.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
Would they find a starting quarterback?
Speaker 6 (02:54):
And minerstanding is they really canvas the league to try
to find one. Yesterday afternoon they set it on one.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
It was a rare intra division trade. It was Joe
flac Club.
Speaker 6 (03:04):
Going from the Cleveland Browns to the Cincinnati Bengals.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
Essentially it's Flaco and a sixth to the Bengals and
a fifth rounder.
Speaker 6 (03:11):
The value there is about a sixth rounder, which sounds
about right.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
Flack, of course, have been in the back of him,
probably was eventually going to be the three.
Speaker 6 (03:19):
If you're the Bengals, you give Joe Flacco more weapons
than he's ever had to Higgins and Jamar Chase, and
you give yourself a shot. Joe Burrow comes back in
the middle of December. If this team can just stay
alive until then, Burrow will be back. Flaco's led a
team into the playoffsays the backup before we will see
if you can do it again.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
All right, rap Chie, thank you. This was so fascinating
to watch happen. We were searching for the answer, as
were the Bengals, and it seems like they found it,
at least until they can get Joe Burrow back. Joe
Flacco stays in the state of Ohio, has to drive
a little bit south two hour drive from Cleveland to Cincinnati,
and that's where we begin with the state of the
nation between the Browns and the Bengals.
Speaker 7 (04:01):
Manti.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
When you look at this, when you inspect both teams needed,
how does this change how the Bengals now fight for
a chance to stay alive in the AFC.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Nors, Well, you can.
Speaker 8 (04:11):
Actually get the ball to the two star wide receivers.
It doesn't make sense to have all the talent and
all that money and two guys and you can't get
the ball to them. You can't get the pigskin to them.
Joe Flacco is one of the best at throwing the football,
so this does give them a chance. My only concern
is the O line. Can we keep Joe Flacco on
his feet. Joe Flacco isn't a scrambling quarterback that can
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get him out of danger, and we've seen already with
the old lines inability to keep defenses back that they
struggle to get that ball down the field.
Speaker 7 (04:40):
So that's going to be my concern.
Speaker 8 (04:41):
But the fact that they can get the ball to
Jamar Chase n T Higgins, I think that benefits Chase
Brown a lot, because Chase Brown is dynamic, explosive running back.
Speaker 7 (04:52):
He's their working horse.
Speaker 8 (04:53):
However, because defenses don't fear the passing game because they
know that the quarterbacks before couldn't get the ball to
these receivers, they would stack the box a lot So
now I think there's a more balanced approach.
Speaker 7 (05:05):
For the Cincinnati Bengals.
Speaker 8 (05:06):
Just because you signed Joe Flacco, and just because defenses
now know that you can get the ball down the field,
they're going to have to respect the two receivers a
lot more.
Speaker 7 (05:15):
And that's going to open things up for Chase Brown.
Speaker 9 (05:17):
Mic Gi, I'm gonna go basic social media reply guy
right here. And this one sort of annoys me from
time to time because the team will sign or trade for,
or acquire a guy that does something for one part
of the team, and they go, what about this other
part of the team.
Speaker 5 (05:33):
In the case of Joe Flacco, can he stop the run?
Can he rush the passer?
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Can he cover anybody?
Speaker 5 (05:39):
Yeah? Because I look at this defense and I go
not great.
Speaker 9 (05:43):
Thirtieth ranked in points, thirtieth ranked in yards, twenty ninth
against the pass, twenty fourth against the run. I can
keep going down. There are no really good numbers when
it comes to this defense here. And that was fine,
Like we sort of expected that coming into season. We
talked about how Bengal games are gonna be sixty plus
combined points, and.
Speaker 5 (06:01):
It was totally fine.
Speaker 9 (06:03):
When Joe Burrow with the back now Joe Flacco's coming in,
and yes, I believe it is going.
Speaker 5 (06:08):
To be an improvement, but it's not a drastic improvement.
Speaker 9 (06:10):
It's not enough to overcome what is happening on that
side of the ball. Well, we're gonna go turnovers from
the Bengals here, So they're the numbers there, they all are.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
We gonna add plenty more. It doesn't look great.
Speaker 9 (06:22):
I just don't know how Joe Flacco helps this team
consistently put up thirty points a game to overcome what's
happening on that side of the ball enough to stay
alive in the NFA AFT North.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
Can I do a basic Twitter response?
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Sure, a positive one, though someone might say, how about
like basic gift guy, where you just find like the
most beatn to a pulp gift. This would be so
you're saying, there's a chance Lloyd Christmas And listen, here's
how I feel about this splashy news because it's a
very familiar name with a very kind of juicy storyline.
And yesterday I was like, oh my god, I like
we all kind of were they traded for Joe Flacco.
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That's really cool.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Also, I give the credit.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
I give credits to the Bengals for doing something, just
trying something, because.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Zach Taylor was Jake Brownie and I were like, how.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Can you do this? You're gonna do this next two months?
This is miserable. So I really do credit them for
doing something. What is this gonna amount to? It's fun,
it's positive. I hate to just like completely slap the
story in the face. Joe Flacco is alleged. Joe Blackson
is nineteen in eight years. That's more than one team
a year. That's unbelievable. Nineteen and this is this whole
thing has like I always say, like it's like the
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rooster Cogburn one last job for the crusty old sheriff
who's going to clean up one more town. But his
one last job was like five jobs ago. It's unbelievable
that he's doing this. And it's also he's also another
movie trope is like isn't he going to be like
three games from not being.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Like I'm too old for this, believe like like one
of these lead the.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
Weapon thing, Like he's forty and I have to say
I'm the football Jake Browning, for all his faults, Jake
Browning is deeply entrenched in the Bengals and their offense.
He's been there for five years. He's studied under Joe,
he's studying under Zach. He knows everything about the Bengals offense.
And he's a young guy with a live arm, and
he was just getting chilla. So the replacement is a
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guy who is totally immobile, who is forty years old,
who yes, has a big arm and threw a bunch
of touchdowns in a Super Bowl like thirty years ago.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Like that's the plamb that's I'm rooting for them.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
I just don't The practical answer is is like maybe
at Joe Flacco plays five hundred football.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Let's talk about this.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
Let's say he goes five and five, which would be
really impressive. Then they're at seven and eight and Joe
Borrow runs out of the smoke and wins the last
two games, and maybe they make the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
In ninety eight. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
I just I'm gonna speak for the people here for
a second. If you're just looking for an arm to
come in and be like, screw it, what can it hurt?
There's one man you should have called and you know
it and I know it, and bring up the picture
of that man.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
It's not Joe Flacco. Bring up the man and it's
right there that why are we calling Jamis?
Speaker 1 (08:53):
Jamis is wasting away as QB three in New York
City doing nothing, and he's got that I will throw
you four touchdowns and three interceptions arm just electing Cobwebs.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
I don't care.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
If the New York Giants aren't game for that, call
them and make them, make them off.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
They can't refuse.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
Because if you want someone to just toss kerosene on
this thing and say, well, whoever's got to be out
there somewhere I'm gonna throw for five hundred yards, why
wouldn't it be Jamus Joe Flakaw.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
I respect him. He's a legend.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
That Like, are we really going to be sitting here
in December and be like, wow, Joe hands the keys
back to Joe and the Bengals?
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Unlikely? I just I don't see it.
Speaker 9 (09:30):
It's first of all, your lethal weapon reference was fantastic,
because that line about being too old for this bleep
was not lethal weapon three or four?
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Is it one? They started that way and wasn't he wasn't.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Denny Glover also like like thirty eight years old, and
something like that.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
So so so Yeah.
Speaker 9 (09:48):
That was flac oh a couple of years ago. Yeah, No,
I don't think the Giants would have done it. I'll
be honest with you. I just hey, what is what
good is he doing them?
Speaker 1 (09:55):
If dark goes down, God forbid, doesn't rush just go
back in?
Speaker 2 (09:57):
What do you hold it up?
Speaker 7 (09:59):
There?
Speaker 1 (09:59):
Share Jamis with us, share, share with we want it.
Speaker 5 (10:02):
Well, that's a guy, and that's a guy that's gonna
let it fly.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
I mean that is part of the whole.
Speaker 9 (10:06):
Flacco thing is it is credibility inside the building with
the targets right now, somebody get them the football. And
that's the thought with Joe Flacco. Jamis wouldn't be afraid
to let it fly.
Speaker 5 (10:15):
I'll tell you that much.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
All right, Well, we have to say in Cincinnati and
keep talking about the quarterbacks that are there, and we're
going to move on from Cincinnati to Cleveland. Actually, let's
go back to the fact that Dylan Gabriel coming off
as first start in London pretty cool outing against the Vikings.
Didn't result in a win, but there was some juice there. However,
I want everybody to practice an exercise with me right now,
if you're at home, if you're on your computer or
your phone, if you go to Cleveland Browns dot com
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and you toggle over to the depth chart and you
roll your eyes down to the quarterback column, there is
no more name listed at QB one.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
It's just blank. That man has been traded away.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
The next one QB two Dylan Gabriel and now QB
three shooter Center. So I guess if our brains are
operating this morning, move those two names on the right
at the top of the column over and Dylan Gabriel.
Speaker 5 (11:03):
How is it just blank?
Speaker 3 (11:04):
I feel like in the internet, guy like you got
to refresh and find that now Dylan Gabriel QB one.
We are one snap away from seeing Shador Sanders make
his debut in the regular season in the NFL. So,
man's I do to a state of the nation maybe
on the Browns quarterback and what you saw from Dylan
and the anticipation that everybody feels about seeing Shador play.
Speaker 8 (11:23):
Yeah, and I'll talk about this a little bit later
in our show with my major That was major segment.
I thought that what Tommy Rees, who's offensive coordinator for
the Cleveland Browns, did for his young QB and Dylan
Gabriel against a very good defense like the Minnesota Vikings.
I thought that it was pretty impressive, and I think
a lot of that performance and how Dylan Gabriel was
able to go out there in London and put together
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some winning drives, it gave them confidence like, Okay, I
don't need to have as big of an insurance policy
for this young man. I can have him as my starter.
I can have him without.
Speaker 7 (11:56):
Somebody lingering in the shadows.
Speaker 8 (11:59):
And so I think this says more about Dylan Gabriel
than it does Shadur Sanders. It gives confidence in knowing
that number eight went out there and did what we
needed him to do.
Speaker 7 (12:07):
Now where do we go from here?
Speaker 8 (12:08):
And that's something that I think played into this decision.
Speaker 4 (12:11):
My chief.
Speaker 9 (12:13):
Ian Rappaport reported the other day that Chador Sanders is
expected to play at some point later this season, and
the reaction from a lot of folks was like, wait
a minute, Dylan Gabriel hasn't even played a game. You're
saying that maybe he's not necessarily going to be good
enough to hold the.
Speaker 5 (12:26):
Job for the rest of the season. That's kind of
a weird thing.
Speaker 9 (12:28):
But I do think that there's an element of and
I can't get out of my head. When I went
to Brown's training camp, that was the day that Jimmy
has spoke to the media. It was the first time
the owner had spoken, along with his wife d to
the media since the draft. And he said, if you
told me the morning of the third day of the draft, I.
Speaker 5 (12:49):
Guess you said.
Speaker 9 (12:49):
It was the night when he went home that night
after day two, after they had taken Dylan Gabriel, We're
going to take Shador Sanders to mar I said, no way,
absolutely not. Then they get there and Andrew Berry and
the brass are talking about it and the possibility, and
it became a thing.
Speaker 5 (13:02):
And he said that was and Andrew Berry, and a lot.
Speaker 9 (13:04):
Of folks said, whoa wait a minute, what was that about.
Speaker 5 (13:08):
Put that one on the general manager.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
So I think at some point before the.
Speaker 9 (13:11):
End of the season, and there's still some seasoning that
needs to happen and some work that's happening behind the
scenes with two door Sanders, at least.
Speaker 5 (13:16):
The Browns feel that way, he's got to get on
the field. I think that's part of the plan.
Speaker 9 (13:20):
And I don't think that they think, oh, this is
going to be a playoff team at this point, so
there will be an opening even if Dylan Gabriel plays
well to get you door Sanders on the field to
say this is why we did.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
What we did on day three of the draft.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
They just circled the whole thing in beyond there was
a buffer. When Dylan Gabriel starts his first game, Chador
was deliberately the number three, and I thought that was
a savvy thing because the masses and the Chador fans
the second thing, he's number two, they're one play away
or not only one turn ankle away, just one interception
away put in Shador. Put in Chador, by the way,
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one interception that Dylan Gabriel did not throw and played
a turnover free game on the road on a different
continent against it Brian Flores defense that everybody on this
show and everybody else thought was just gonna eat them
alive look pretty good. And the way that Shador never
plays this year is if Dylan Gabriel just ascends and
just looks like the franchise quarterback potentially they drafted him
to be.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
But the game's changed now.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
The game's changed in the whole Shador media experience, now
it's just he's there, he's lingering. He's like the dessert
you can already see when you're trying to eat your vegetables.
Let's look get to it. It's feel like if Dylan
Gabriel has a rough game or a rough series, especially
at home, the massive start. They start on your computer,
they start on your phone.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Let's see Shadour.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
There's such a hunger to see Shadour play in this
regular season game. Then now you feel like Gabriel has
this extra pressure not only in everything football, but just
between the ears and in the stands.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
It's all changed.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
Flacco is like the babysitter of these two rookies, and
you just go to old Flacco and he's trusted, independable.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Now it's the upside down.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
And I don't know, Mike, I don't know if the
plan is to like, at some point we'll see Shadoor.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
What if Dylan Gabriel is just good.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
And he's the third round pick and they win half
their games and he's like that's something to build on.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
Does he play?
Speaker 1 (15:04):
And if he doesn't play, is everyone just frustrated and
feel like something was taken from them Because everyone feels.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
So attached to sedure.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
It's messy, it's complicated, and I think if only the
only positive I can really see is the Browns are like,
we're going to roll with these two rookies, come hell
or high water. We're gonna lose the babysitter and let
the kids take care of themselves. It's really interesting for
a bad one and four team that I can't wait
to watch.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
Well, you reach a certain age where you're convincing your
parents that you should be able to stay at home alone,
and like, whether or not it goes well, you're taking
five dollars out of your dad's pocket to pay for
the pizza when it shows up, Like, you got to
make some decisions moving forward, and how it works. MESSI
and complicated was an interesting word to use for the
Browns because I think that could be a broader spectrum
Ian rapaport for the AFC North as a whole. You
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could apply it to the Baltimore Ravens. You could apply
it to the trade that just went down. This entire
division is curious to us officially, So what else is going.
Speaker 7 (15:54):
On with the Ravens.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Yeah, let's start right there.
Speaker 6 (15:57):
Lamar Jackson, their starting quarterbacks still I would say status
very much in doubt for this Sunday's game. Of course,
missed this week's game with the hamstring injury. We will
see if he's able to play this week. Seems to
me like a bit of an uphill battle. He's got
the buy next week if you get an extra week
of rest. Seems more likely than not that we get
Cooper rushed on Sunday, but obviously it is Lamar Jackson
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is a former MVP.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
We are going to be watching.
Speaker 6 (16:21):
Speaking of former well, former Ravens this time Odell Beckham Junior.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
You guys remember him.
Speaker 4 (16:25):
He was a receiver. He played for the Giants.
Speaker 6 (16:27):
He had that catch at center football was a crazy catch,
only used one hand. Anyway, he was back in the
news yesterday. He talked to The Pivot, which is an
awesome show, and admitted that he tested positive for PDS
and was going to accept a six game PV suspension.
So that suspension started yesterday, which is interesting. It actually
could have started to begin the regular season, so he
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would have already served five games, but he didn't be
serving it now.
Speaker 4 (16:53):
So Odell Beckham Junior.
Speaker 6 (16:55):
Who wants to play this year, hopes to play, won't
be able to join the team until December. And then
there was a trade you mentioned Adafe Oway, the first
round on edge for the Baltimore Ravens. He got ten
sacks us years, certainly someone who we thought was big
time in the Ravens future. He was traded to the
Los Angeles Chargers.
Speaker 4 (17:15):
It was Way and a five for.
Speaker 6 (17:17):
A low high Gilman, a safety and a no, I'm
sorry it was it was and a seven for Gilman
and a five. The raven gets some depth in the
secondary and the starter who can really hit the ground running,
Oway gets a fresh start and gives some help on
the edge for the Charger.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
All right, rap sheet, appreciate you. Listen, there's a handful
of teams that are sitting in the NFL right now.
Who are four and one? And if I'm holding my
waye Ford and if it's the midway through workweek, you
got it right. It's whiteboard Wednesday time. All right, compelling
four and one teams, we are going to talk about you,
amongst other questions and our whiteboard Wednesday topic, Lyons, Eagles, Kyle,
(17:53):
oh my, what else we got?
Speaker 2 (17:56):
Well?
Speaker 1 (17:56):
This keeps happening, and by this I'm talking about guys
dropping the ball before they score. Used to happen every
once in a while on the show. Jackson would do it,
we'd all have a laugh. It has already happened twice
this season. It happened twice last season. It's costing teams games,
it's getting coaches fined. It's really really weird, and I
want to dig in into the why, why is this happening?
(18:19):
Why the players do it? We're going between the Ears,
We're going on the field that drops all kinds of
stuff on the show that they don't go anywhere.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
Good Football, Whiteboard Wednesday. Grab your board marker and you're
eraser first. On tap four and one teams. There are
seven of them remaining in the NFL, three from the
AFC and four from the NFC. And those little asterisks
that sit here on the side because these two teams
play each other, so someone will fall specifically between the
Bucks and the forty nine ers, unless we have another tie,
(18:56):
which that's for a different segment.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
Manta, who is the.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
Most compelling of the seven remaining four and one teams?
Speaker 2 (19:03):
Well, let's keep that up.
Speaker 7 (19:04):
James.
Speaker 8 (19:04):
You got Bills, coach, Jags, Eagles, Lines, Books, Niners. Every
one of those teams has their franchise quarterback, every one
of those teams have their franchise tight end, all their
wide receivers, and their franchise d n There's only one
that doesn't, and.
Speaker 7 (19:18):
That's the San Francisco forty nine ers. And yet there's
still four and one.
Speaker 8 (19:21):
And that's not the only thing that separates them, but
they're the only team that has played three divisional opponents
in the first five weeks and being all of them.
Speaker 7 (19:29):
They're three to zero.
Speaker 8 (19:30):
In the NFC Wes, leading the NFC West in this race.
Speaker 7 (19:35):
To the playoffs.
Speaker 8 (19:36):
So if I had to choose out of all of
those teams, that's been the most impressive.
Speaker 7 (19:40):
I got to say that as a San.
Speaker 8 (19:41):
Francisco forty nine Ers because with all the things that
they've been dealt with, all the pieces that aren't playing,
they're still finding ways to win the game.
Speaker 7 (19:48):
So I got San Francisco. My gip.
Speaker 9 (19:51):
When you say compelling, I think absolute cinema, meaning I
need personalities and I need storylines, and the Jacksonville Jaguars
have got it. Yes, that's a lot of l's not
used because it's duval.
Speaker 5 (20:03):
That's the way it's supposed to be said.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
Down there wrong.
Speaker 9 (20:05):
I know the way it's supposed to be, said No Hall.
Liam Cohen said it at his opening press conference. He's
one of the personalities for me. I've also got a
quarterback that is just like a leading man in a
football movie. He looks like Ronnie Bass. That is Trevor Lawrence.
I've got a Devin Lloyd sticking it to his own team.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
You don't want to pick up my fifty year option.
Speaker 9 (20:26):
Watch this, the pending free agent said as he became
the or the AFC Defensive Player of the Month in September.
Is up to a great start with this interception in October.
I've got a two way player. You don't never see those.
And I've got a head coach that he's got emotions
on the sideline that you saw.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
After this play.
Speaker 9 (20:44):
Jaguar has got everything you could ask for. This was
to me the litmus test for three games at home. Here,
three tough games.
Speaker 7 (20:51):
They're one to zero in that stretch.
Speaker 5 (20:53):
So far, they are compelling to me.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
Well, you say cinema, I hear cinema as entertainment. I
hear compelling as entertainment. I know people like to whine
and complain sometimes about this game sowed.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
These teams are so bad.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
If you really want value for your entertainment moment entertainment dollar,
it's the Tampa Bay Bakerneers. That's who you want to
watch every single week. Do you understand you can't miss
You have to get the Buccaneers game in. They're in
the late window this weekend against Manti San Francisco team.
So at about six forty five Eastern on Sunday, get
(21:25):
to a TV. Whether it be Red Zone, whether it's CBS,
whatever it is, let me just give you the rundown
of the Tampa Bay Bakeroneers. This year, they have won
by three, one, two and three.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
The only game that they have lost was.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
Against Philadelphia and it had a ridiculous block and it
was all kinds of crazy nastiness. At the end of
the game, it was wildly entertaining. So maybe Baker's for you,
maybe he's not. It doesn't matter. They're awesome to watch
and you will be glad you spent part of your
Sunday watching them the late window.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
A couple of minutes left to go in the game.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
Maybe they win, maybe they lose, and by the way,
you get added bonus at the cream school thing. It's
it's all a win. This is the team you want
to watch. Compelling as hell, and Kyle.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
Just said a little spice to it. Baker Mayfield's never
beat the forty nine ers. He's zero to four. It's
actually the worst record that he holds against another organization
in his career. So, as he said, get to about
the fourth quarter and watch the rest of the Buccaneers
forty nine Ers game.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
Next up.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
After the Patriots prolific Sunday night football win over the
Buffalo Bill, Stefan Diggs had high praise for his young quarterback.
Take listen, you told us that this guy right here
reminds you of a young Josh Allen.
Speaker 9 (22:29):
Did you see those stiff arms and what this guy
was doing tonight?
Speaker 2 (22:31):
Yet he was running around, he was making plays. You
can't say it didn't look Josh Allen like.
Speaker 7 (22:35):
But that's Drake may.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
He's his own man, He's his own version. But that
is a pretty cool comparison Manti and the rest of
you guys in New York. Take a current quarterback and
then pull a quarterback from NFL history that he reminds
you of Manti.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
Europe.
Speaker 8 (22:50):
First, well, this is fun because this little interchangebole quarterback situation,
I can be done on so many different levels. I
got Jared goff and Kurt Warner. That's the comparison that
I'm making, not just how they.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Throw the ball. They're extremely accurate, one of.
Speaker 8 (23:02):
The most beautiful balls that you see in the spirals
that you see on this on both of these quarterbacks.
But they both started with the Rams. They both made
it to Super Bowls. Now, Kurt Warner did win his
Super Bowl, whereas Jared Goffin and the La Rams at
that time came up short to the Patriots, but then
they got kind.
Speaker 7 (23:18):
Of written off and then they go to another team.
Speaker 8 (23:21):
Kurt Warner went to the Cardinals, and then Jared Goffi
is now with the Detroit Lions, and they've changed the
whole culture over there. So I like the two stories
between these two quarterbacks.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
I like how.
Speaker 8 (23:31):
They kind of remind me, remind me of how they
throw the ball. They're very smart. But then also their
storylines are very similar. So I've got Jared goff and
Kurt Warner.
Speaker 9 (23:40):
I'm going and I'm not certainly at the first to
do this. Josh Allen and John Elway, Josh and John
the big arm, the ability to put it anywhere on
the field, the ability to scramble as well, certainly look
very similar when they have those scrambles going on there.
I always think of, you know, the the quarterbacks when
I was growing up as the Marino Montana, Elway, Kelly, Like,
(24:02):
who would I like to see in this era?
Speaker 2 (24:04):
Who I think could fit great?
Speaker 9 (24:05):
I think John Ellwie would fit perfectly in this era
of football.
Speaker 5 (24:09):
What would it look like.
Speaker 9 (24:09):
I think it would look a lot like Josh Allen
to me, that's a comparison.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
Yeah, and Lway would constantly have these great runs and
get to the super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
There's because Door's blown off.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
Josh Allena has not gotten to the super Bowl, but
they usually end up losing in the playoffs. And Mansie,
you're talking about Goff and Warner. There's a very very
short list of quarterbacks who have started a Super Bowl
for two different teams. It's like Peyton and it's Brady
Kurt Warner like he would be in a very very
exclusive club if he got the lines to one. But
I'm going back to Baker Mayfield, and I've said this before,
(24:38):
Baker Mayfield, it's two of them equals Brett Farv plus
Doug Flutie that if they got together in a lab
and had some kind of product that came from them.
Farv and Fluty wildly watchable, charismatic, kind of a smile,
always like kind of a Sandlot factor to him. A
tragedy and a triumph here and there, and it's like
(24:58):
just both of them. You liked flooty, diminutive Baker and
not as short as that, but there's some of that
going on, just the guy who is like, you know,
he just ripped my favorite team's heart out. But he's
pretty cool and fun. I grew up a Bears fan
with my family and we loved Farv. We just couldn't
help it. He was too cool and too likable. I
know he's taking a lot of shots self imposed in
many ways off the field in the last few years,
(25:19):
but there's really never been a more watchable quarterback in
the NFL. And Doug Flutia is right up there to Baker.
Mayfield is bar plus Flutie.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
I want to go to that football lab where we
can just combine two players from history and see where
it spits out. All right, last one yesterday Kyle was
on the line with one of our favorite fans of GMFB, Renee,
and that is pronounced as the actress that Kyle Brant
knows so well, Renee Rousseau, and put her on the
spot a little bit to find an answer to a
question that she didn't know.
Speaker 7 (25:45):
I'm going to test now.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
This is my producer's notes say that this caller is Renee,
and it literally says in the doc pronounced like Renee Russo,
that producer knows me.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
I know Renee Russo, Renee in Wisconsin.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
On the Texans, Renee, first of all, I'm going to
put you on the spot. What is your favorite Renee
Russo movie? And then tell us about the Texans.
Speaker 8 (26:03):
Go, oh, Jesus, I can't even think of a Renee
Russol movie right now talking about that.
Speaker 7 (26:11):
I'm happy that the excuse.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
Me, just go, just go? Do you you got twelve seconds?
Speaker 3 (26:19):
And to give you a cinematic ending to that twelve seconds,
Renee stuck the landing on her take about the Texans.
Just shout out to Renee once again today, Manti Renee
Russo's best role in your IMDb brain as well.
Speaker 8 (26:30):
Yes, my brain is faently young. So I got for
the dark world where she plays the Queen. She plays
Thor and Loki's mother, and she has this bad like
Mama Jama like fight scene where she fights Melkif. At
the end she loses because Meliciff gets some help.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
But she was regal.
Speaker 7 (26:46):
She was very royal in this film, So I got
for the dark world.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
That's to the Queen, just.
Speaker 7 (26:52):
A good one.
Speaker 5 (26:53):
I'm going I'm going.
Speaker 9 (26:54):
To outbreak here, and it's really not a great In
the end, she needs the guy to save the day,
which is one of those movie cliches. They tried to
bust and froze, so CARMENVIV if you're home, don't watch
that in that regard, But the movie itself, when you
watch it post covid.
Speaker 5 (27:10):
Man, it hits differently.
Speaker 9 (27:11):
They're like, hey, there's nineteen hundred residents in this town.
I want them all accounted for, and Dustin Hoffman saying, no,
they're not home.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
I just drove through a hundred of them right there.
Speaker 9 (27:20):
Watch Outbreak post covid if you haven't, it hits different.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
It's skyrocketed on screaming and screaming and screaming. Probably in
twenty twenty, Donald Suthn's like, we just have to bomb
the town, whole town. I don't know, don't He's like,
we can't let them up bomb them.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
It was really tough.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
And then Dustin Off is like, I got the vaccine.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
Don't bomb him, drop the bomb. It's so scary.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
All right, this is the deepest cut of all time.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
In when I was in.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
Fifth grade, I went to the movie theater and saw
a movie.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
I don't know if you'll know this, Mike. I saw
a movie called Mister Destiny. Yeah, star Mister Destiny.
Speaker 9 (27:53):
It's a Bellushi Shimalushi, all right.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
Mister Destiny is a story about a baseball player who
messes up a game and it ruins his whole life.
So his guardian angel who's pipe by Mike Op comes
and says, like, what if I gave you a chance
to redo it? All goes back to the baseball game,
hits the home run or whatever, and then he marries
Renee Russo and everything's incredible, and it tries to teach
you lessons about.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
Like that's not really the way to live life. You
got to just go on with.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
Your shortcomings in your faults. Weird movie, but like so
nineteen ninety it hurts and I feel like it's set
off the Reneaissance of it, like she was just showing
up in everything. Fantastic elegance, beautiful, talented guys. I promise
there's not any show in the world right now, let
alone a football show that's talking about Mister Destiny starring
Jim Belushi. But I stand by it. It's a fun movie,
(28:39):
especially when you're eleven.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
You remember what.
Speaker 9 (28:40):
Song was playing when Linda Hamilton got into the car accident.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
Remember that one?
Speaker 7 (28:44):
I don't, and.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
I love that Linda Hamilton was in it just a
year before Terminator two.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
Right, it feels like your destiny to do Michae ocaine
impressions now Michain okay, I.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
Say my cocaine and it sounds like Mike okay.
Speaker 10 (29:02):
So the NFL Way to Play Awards are Gatorade and
they were created to recognize and reward players who lead
by example using proper playing technique. The Week five winner
is a second round pick out of Texas. He's a
rookie who came up clutch for the forty nine ers
on Thursday Night.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
And with more, here's.
Speaker 10 (29:18):
A longtime NFL defensive coach and current SEP of Officiating,
Perry Fuel with a.
Speaker 11 (29:24):
Minute in seven, remaining in the fourth quarter defensive tackle
number ninety five. After Collins delivered a game change and
play a game and a colis in, Collins engaged in
a double team block, demonstrating the exceptional technique in strength.
He split the double team block with a powerful striking shad,
reading the running backs path. Collins quickly adjusted his pursuit arms,
(29:46):
closing the gap with an impressive burst, Collins delivered a
perfect time punch with his right hand, knocking the ball loose.
He displayed elite awareness, hustle and finding the football, securing
the recovery at the two yard line. This sequence showed
Collins mastery of defensive fund of mills and preserved the
lead in a high pressure in the.
Speaker 10 (30:06):
Hey said I can do battle by myself. For his
terrific way to play, the NFL Foundation will award a
five thousand dollars equipment grant and that's through USA Football
to a youth or high school program of collins choice.
To learn more about the NFL Way to Play, check
out Playfootball dot NFL dot com. Renounce another winner right
here next week. But you're all sudden, We be right
(30:27):
back on GMFB.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
Good mon, I got a text for my mom this week,
who loves football, and she said, why did these players
keep dropping the ball before they score?
Speaker 2 (30:45):
I don't understand it, Mom, neither do I.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
Nobody does, because it used to just happen every once
in a while and Deshaun Jackson would do it and
we'd laugh. But now we've only played five games in
the NFL and it's already happened twice this season, and
in both cases it has cost the team the game.
So what I'm really trying to figure out is the
why why did these players drop the ball before the
goal line?
Speaker 2 (31:04):
Is especially players who.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
Have scored countless touchdowns throughout their football careers and should
be very comfortable before we ask the question.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
Let's get into the examples.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
You saw it this past week one of the strangest
worst losses of all time. Arizona Cardinals Amrio de Mercado,
Jay Mercado, a great, great story. He breaks away and
he is going to make this amazing touchdown. The Cardinals
is going to win the game, and he just drops it.
He drops the ball. Amar Demarcado, in his football career, pro's, college,
and high school, has scored fifty touchdowns. This would have
(31:32):
been number fifty one. He's been there before.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
His explanation said it was emotional, it was a big play.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
Afterwards, Kyler Murray, who's very close with him on the team, said,
I don't get it.
Speaker 7 (31:46):
Mario's one of the closest dudes I am. You know,
I'm really close with Mario.
Speaker 11 (31:49):
I know his character, I know his IQ of the game,
and never in a million years last you know, I
wouldn't think that Amario would do that, but obviously we
all make mistakes.
Speaker 7 (31:58):
You know, he's going to take that on the chant.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
He understands that. When was the last time it happened.
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
Last week, Cold sprams in a very tight game, Adami Mitchell.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
Makes a brilliant play and then does this at the
goal line.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
Adni Mitchell has scored thirty five touchdowns in his football career.
He was more of a trying to transfer the ball
to maybe raise it and he drops it.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
Quote after the game, I just lost focus. It's so strange.
Happened twice this year. Guess what, guys, it happened twice
last year.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
Let's go to someone who's always scoring touchdowns from the
same franchise. Twenty twenty four, Jonathan Taylor in week fifteen,
is doing the Jonathan Taylor thing, and he's about to score.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
He just drops it casually.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
This was not transferring the ball, This was not trying
to raise it to celebrate.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
He dropped it. It's a fumble.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
Jonathan Taylor had scored at that point one hundred and
fifty seven touchdowns in his career. He says afterwards that
he was not consciously aware that he was dropping the ball.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
He should be very comfortable. He does this like you
and I tyre shoes.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
He scores touchdowns and still he drops it inexplicably.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
Also last year.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
Week nine, the Halloween game the Jets, Malachi Corley, young
player drops the ball, same thing. He just casually dropped.
This one was not close. Is not close. Malachi Corley
at that point in his career, scored forty touchdowns throughout
high school, college and the pros. Afterwards, he says, I
(33:29):
don't know, as this wasn't a defining moment for me.
Let's ask his quarterback last season. Let's see if he
has something uplifting to say.
Speaker 6 (33:37):
Yeah, we have a touchdown called you know, taking off
the board, silly play.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
I mean, he's not wrong.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
Also last year Bengals safety Jordan Battle a scoop and score.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
Jordan, what about the score part?
Speaker 1 (33:51):
You gotta get it over the goal line? Nope, drops
it knew it was happening in one of the most
Bengals plays you'll ever see. A guy who had already
scored six touchdowns, including three at Alabama. He said, I
wasn't throwing the ball down. I was just trying to
switch it to my other hand and it fell. It
slipped out of my glip. Let me ask a question, Jordan,
Why were you trying to switch it to the other hand.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
Why just run and get the six points? They ended
up winning the game, thankfully.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
Next, Oh, wait, hold on, if you're gonna do this,
Mike Garatfolo, don't do it when you're doing in season
hard knocks, because there's gonna be brilliant video of everyone's reaction.
Speaker 7 (34:25):
Roller.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
Now, Battle did fumble it as he got right across
the goal line.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
Wait wait, wait, here we go, here we go.
Speaker 9 (34:38):
Take the touchdown off to board and it's Tennessee football again.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
Bro, I didn't know what just happened. Bro, I don't
we score?
Speaker 7 (34:46):
Then?
Speaker 2 (34:46):
I see Zach face?
Speaker 7 (34:47):
Like, what's Zach face? Completely changed? Why he dites an
hand zone and.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
I didn't see what happened.
Speaker 6 (34:54):
I just looked at I turned around and looked at
Zach face.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
Zach face was like, that's.
Speaker 1 (34:58):
Crazy, bro. But now we're not even shocked when it
happens anymore. You want to go old one. There's Joe
Flacco twenty teams ago. He gets picked up by Danny
Trevathan and watch this. I mean, Danny, you're at the
three yard line.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
And you drop that.
Speaker 9 (35:11):
It's not even not even close.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
Now, it's a defensive player who had never scored a
touchdown in the pro's, college or high school. That would
have been his first career touchdown. Danny said afterwards. I
was just in the moment.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
Yeah, but you were barely in the red zone when
you drop that thing. This is an unbelievable thing.
Speaker 1 (35:25):
But at least it's an offensive guy who got really excited.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
Let's go to the goat.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
There at a two thousand and eight Let's go to
the goat a guy who had already done it in
a high school All star game. This is the Shan
Jackson's first career touchdown.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
Until it wasn't.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
He throws it backwards against the pass from McNabb and
chucks it.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
He had never scored before, but.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
He had scored fifty six times at Cow.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
And I believe Long Beach Polly because Shan.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
Jackson says, ah, I'm not even worried about it.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
Well, you know who was kind.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
Of worried about it, Big Red, back when it was
Big Green.
Speaker 7 (35:56):
Oh.
Speaker 9 (35:57):
He just needs to learn from that to make sure
he gets across the line, you know, gets across.
Speaker 7 (36:00):
Goal line and can't do that by the way down.
Speaker 3 (36:05):
Hey, he played his herd out, you know, he played
his hard out just a little bit short.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
So we can just roll the highlights and have some
laughs and we have. But again, why is this happening?
I thought Connor Orr from the S side did a
great job. He found a University of Michigan professor of
psychology this week to be like, why is this happening?
And there's something called a multitasking deficit and I'm paraphrasing here,
in which the player has the goal of scoring and
as they passed the last defender passed the last official,
it sets off stimuli that activate the goal of celebrating
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and the wires get crossed. My very humble opinion, I
believe that there is a release for some players when
they cross the goal line or when they think that
they did where from the time they get the ball
or catch the ball, it is so intense psychologically and physically,
and you're battling and battling, and finally there's this I
did it.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
I scored for you and I It's.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
Akin to dropping your luggage at the front door of
your house after a long trip. But you can't do
it out on the street. You have to actually get
into the house before you drop it. Mike, I think
the strangest thing isn't that it's the defensive guys like Trabathan.
It's the guys like Jonathan Taylor who do this every
single day and should feel comfortable scoring. That's my best
(37:12):
explanation of why it's happening.
Speaker 2 (37:14):
But apparently it's not stopping.
Speaker 5 (37:15):
That's great.
Speaker 9 (37:16):
Good job by Connor or that must have been so
busy formulating that that he forgot to set his fantasy
football lineup.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
For three straight weeks.
Speaker 9 (37:22):
He's in my fantasy Oh really for like three straight weeks,
Tyron Tracy. He's got five guys currently that are not
going to play this week. Set your lineup or thanks
for the opening. I would like to see de Marcado.
De Marcado score this weekend right and have the ball
in his hands and like two hands into the end
zone all the way through, all the way to the sideline,
dudes trying to pry it out, sit down on the
(37:44):
bench like.
Speaker 5 (37:45):
This, just with the football at this point.
Speaker 2 (37:47):
It's great.
Speaker 5 (37:47):
I think there's a chance for redemption there.
Speaker 9 (37:49):
Jonathan Gannon was fined one hundred thousand for his reaction
on the sideline there, which a lot of folks who
lost in Survivor will probably have the same reaction as well.
Speaker 5 (37:57):
Would have liked to have done that and more.
Speaker 9 (38:00):
But I think that there's a reset there with the leadership.
Paris Johnson Junior, who doesn't get enough credit for what
he does both as a football player and as a
leader on the team, had his hand on De Marcado's
shoulder again and was coming up. They really have tried
to rally around this moment there, and I think it
potentially could be a rallying moment for the Arizona Cardinals
moving forward here. That's what I'm inter FDNT.
Speaker 8 (38:21):
See kab you said, the psychologist said, what was wires?
We are getting crossed when something happens. What was the
explanation again.
Speaker 1 (38:29):
They get caught up in the moment, and it's that
you have a goal of scoring and then you transfer
to the goal of celebrating and it happens too early
because of the adrenaline and the stimulation in your brain
that was there.
Speaker 7 (38:40):
When it makes sense, it happens to me a lot
on this show.
Speaker 8 (38:43):
There's a goal of scoring on my segments, and then
my wires get cross and then the stuttering happens and
I start.
Speaker 7 (38:49):
To fumble a little bit. So I get it makes
sense to me, Jamie.
Speaker 3 (38:52):
I'm glad that you were able to justify it. I
appreciate the luggage analogy, and man say, you're able to
find the parallel as well. I like that sound bite
from Andy Reid. What a cool, calm and classy way
to address that fact that like, yeah, he'll.
Speaker 7 (39:05):
Learn from it.
Speaker 3 (39:06):
Yeah, I don't understand why we're calling guys character or
IQ into it and when all of a sudden it's
like he made a mistake. I think at the top
of the list of people that know they made the
mistake is going to be the guy in which who
made that poor decision at the goal line. So I
appreciate Big Red from even years ago.
Speaker 7 (39:22):
Kyle Young big Red too.
Speaker 1 (39:23):
Yeah, it's happening so commonly that it's like the coaches
have to spend time on it now. It reminds me
of players We're diving for the pylon and fumbling, and
Belichick among others saying we're not doing that anymore.
Speaker 2 (39:34):
Don't do that.
Speaker 1 (39:35):
Do you really have to take practice time or meeting
time to say, guys run through the end line? Our
guy will not be a guy who drops the ball
at the end zone. Twice already this year, twice last year.
It is not an anomaly. It's happening all the time,
and I hope it never happens again.
Speaker 7 (39:49):
It's now time for that was major.
Speaker 8 (39:51):
This week, I'm going to highlight somebody that who I
played with my last two years at Notre Dame. Tommy
Reese was my quarterback. Now Tommy Reese, after ten years
of fighting through the college ranks and the pro ranks,
is now the offensive coret nator for the Cleveland Browns.
And after watching this past game when he took a
rookie quarterback in Dylan Gabriel to face one of the
(40:11):
most disruptive defenses in the Minnesota Vikings. I was extremely
impressed with some of these details. Right here, you're going
to see a play. This is a this is a
simple RPO play which run pass option. But Tom Reese
is going to extend these receivers all the way to
the top of the screen. What's that's going to do
is that's going to force the defense to reveal their
hand a little bit. For Dylan Gabriel, it's going to
(40:33):
be easy math. There's three receivers out there, there's four
defenders here. Hand the ball up to Quinchawn Judkins and
let him get easy nine yards. Just like that, simple read,
simple decision for a rookie quarterback. Now they're going to
go down to the goal line next play, and he's
going to start utilizing some formation and some motion. He's
(40:54):
going to have this receiver that as at the top
left of your screen here, He's going to motion him down.
What does that do? That makes it so easy for
Dylan Gabriel to figure out what coverage.
Speaker 7 (41:04):
The Minnesota Vikings are.
Speaker 8 (41:05):
You see how there's Minnesota Vikings defenders on every single
wide receiver. It's like Oprah when she's like you get
a car, you get a car. You get a car.
You have a defender. You have a defender. You wouldn't
have a defender. They're gonna motion this receiver down to
right here by this tight end, and right then Dylan
Gabriel is gonna know they're in man coverage and this
natural pickplay that they have designed for Harold Fannon Junior
(41:28):
to get open is gonna be wide open as it is.
Speaker 7 (41:31):
He throws the ball to a wide.
Speaker 8 (41:32):
Open rookie touchdown, Cleveland Brown, seven points. Great job, Tommy,
great job, Dylan. Now for the last play, they're gonna
spread out this defense and they're gonna see with motion
how they're able to react.
Speaker 7 (41:48):
Can I get that next play?
Speaker 5 (41:49):
Please?
Speaker 7 (41:50):
You're gonna see Harold Fannin Jr.
Speaker 8 (41:52):
Motion out outside of this outside of this receiver, and
he's gonna watch how these guys wreck. The defense has
two options. One, Assi motions out. This corner can neither
bounce out. If he does that, Dylan Gabriel knows they're
in zone.
Speaker 7 (42:06):
But as he.
Speaker 8 (42:06):
Bounces out, you see how Matellus follows him.
Speaker 2 (42:10):
It's man coverage.
Speaker 7 (42:11):
And I have a six and forty five pound tight end.
Speaker 8 (42:15):
Against a five to eleven one and ninety pound safety
and I'm going to go to that guy nine times
out of ten. I was extremely impressed with how my
former quarterback put his rookie quarterback in positions to be
successful against a very very good defense in the Minnesota Vikings.
Speaker 7 (42:31):
And I thought that that was major.
Speaker 2 (42:33):
Good job, Tommy, thank gone, nks job.
Speaker 1 (42:36):
Man.
Speaker 3 (42:36):
Why look at how tacked up your That was major
MANTHI good segment got Jim cow Brant. What do you
think of that was major? I know you hate spelling it.
What do you think?
Speaker 1 (42:46):
No, it's fine. I'm fascinated by Tommy Reese. I remember
him as a Notre Dame quarterback. He is friends with
my little brother. I knew when he was a high
school kid, and I want to know more about your relationship.
But then, what do you think his future is? Mantad
because he's been all over the place.
Speaker 8 (42:58):
I think it's so smart with with with Tommy Reese
and what they're doing right now with quarterbacks. I think
there's there's starting to be a little carry over and
spill over from the college game and incorporating some of that,
and Tommy is a perfect man for the job. Absolutely,
I thought it was awesome.
Speaker 5 (43:12):
When was this move while he was walking?
Speaker 9 (43:14):
Were you reporting eligible?
Speaker 2 (43:16):
Reporting eligible? Put me in the game, Tommy, put me
in the game.
Speaker 7 (43:19):
Give me a pick for let me get a touchdown.
Speaker 10 (43:22):
Say awesome that he really said it's quarterback, got for success,
that he knows that position.
Speaker 7 (43:27):
Make it simple, Make it simple, don't complicate it God
and Joku. That's like the easiest answer on the plan.
Speaker 2 (43:32):
Yeah, old one ever going to take Stitch for
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