November 20, 2024 • 40 mins
Hour One of the Good Morning Football Podcast begins with Eagles LB Zack Baun joining the show. Hosts Jamie Erdahl, Kyle Brandt, Peter Schrager, and Akbar Gbaja-Biamila discuss how Nick Sirianni has led the team and the amazing play of Saquon Barkley. The Jets fired GM Joe Douglas and the table looks ahead to what's next in New York. Plus, Whiteboard Wednesday asks about your season sensation and Gladiator partner.
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
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Speaker 2 (00:22):
Good Morning Football.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
This is Good Morning Football. We are live in LA
and New York City. As always, it's Wednesday, November twenty ath.
This is Akbar Baja Biamilla. That's Peter Schrager, that's Kyle Brand.
Great to see you guys in New York. I'm Jamie
ert All Peter, wonderful to see you in LA. On Monday.
You travel back, you had to get back to the
East Coast. There were some happenings in New York yesterday
(00:45):
with some of those teams. But perhaps we shouldn't focus
on the bad, instead on the good and the second
team in the NFC right now south of you, guys.
Speaker 4 (00:54):
Yeah, Look, we're looking at the NFC standings and you're seeing,
of course, the Lions are getting all the love.
Speaker 5 (01:00):
But on the East Coast, the Eagles are coming.
Speaker 4 (01:02):
Theos have won six straight game and their defense is
oftentimes leading the way. So this is rare for our
show just to open things up like this, unprecedented. But
we've got a guy that we've been talking about for
two weeks.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
Let's tease it.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
Peter the linebacker for the Philadelphia Eagle.
Speaker 5 (01:19):
Zach Bond is going to join us on the show.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Let's go, it's happening. Let's just set the table. Why
Zach Bonn is leading our show today on GMFB.
Speaker 5 (01:30):
Guys, are you familiar with the name Zach Bahn, Zack Bawn.
He's doing everything that Zach Bond, Zach Bonn.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
Who has eighty plus tackles, two plus sacks.
Speaker 5 (01:44):
And an interception this season.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Are you sure that not two tech nag.
Speaker 5 (01:48):
That's Zach Bonn.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
He's about right down, Juck Bond.
Speaker 6 (01:56):
Are you Kirk Man? Ah?
Speaker 5 (01:58):
This is so good.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
He's now joining us live.
Speaker 5 (02:01):
For Philadelphia at this hour.
Speaker 4 (02:05):
Eagles first year linebacker twenty seven year old Zach Bond,
Welcome to the show.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
I'm Jack.
Speaker 6 (02:10):
Thanks for having me, Thanks for having me. It's good
to be here.
Speaker 4 (02:13):
Look, you guys have a huge game coming up on
Sunday night. It's gonna be on NBC. You're traveling to
Los Angeles to play the Rams. But you guys have
not lost a game since you're by and this defense
has been leading the way. You've been one of the
main main figures in that thing. Take us into the
defensive meeting rooms. Right now, what is Vic Fangio saying
to you guys and go around the room and give
a little love because everybody's elevated their game.
Speaker 7 (02:34):
Yeah, if you know Vic Fangio, he's not one to
give too many compliments.
Speaker 6 (02:39):
But credit to everyone on this defense.
Speaker 7 (02:42):
Going into the buy, we had things to look at,
things to take care of, and everyone's been playing well
since it starts. Up front, Dalen Carter, Jordan Davis, the
edges has been on top of everything. We're getting sacks,
we're forcing pressures, the linebackers, myself and the Kobe. The
communication has been really good, flying around making plays, and
then the back end also the communication has been great
(03:02):
and having Coop in there and Read and quinnyon on
the outside, Slay on the outside. We just got so
many weapons and we're playing really well right now.
Speaker 8 (03:10):
You really do, and you're a team guy, and I
would expect exactly that. But this is a Zach Bond
house and a Zach Bond show. I know it's supposed
to be. Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson. If you started preparing
your MVP s bitch yet, come on, are you getting
into this?
Speaker 5 (03:23):
Let's go? What are you gonna say?
Speaker 6 (03:24):
When you win MVP No. No. One game at a time,
One game at a time.
Speaker 5 (03:31):
Zach's a perfect answer.
Speaker 8 (03:32):
You listen, you mentioned Coop, you mentioned quinnyon Like, we've
been all over these guys. They've been incredible, these young
players in Philadelphia.
Speaker 5 (03:39):
Can you tell us just more about them? We want
more people, more excited about them.
Speaker 6 (03:42):
They're they're quiet guys.
Speaker 7 (03:44):
Honestly, they they're rookies, but they don't act like it.
They're very professional, very on top of everything, asking questions,
communicating out.
Speaker 6 (03:52):
There like their true bets. They're doing a really good job.
Speaker 7 (03:54):
And I'm excited for those guys, especially so Zach.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
When you went from West Bend eat East High School
as a quarterback to Brown Deer High School and became
a line did you ever envision that this is the
way your tenure would start with the Philadelphia Eagles. The
Eagle signed you to the one year deal this last March,
and now you have truly made a name for yourself
at this position within this defense. What is contributing to
(04:18):
the season that you're having.
Speaker 7 (04:20):
I was actually a receiver at West Bend at West Indiast,
and then I was a quarterback at Brown Dear and Wisconsin.
Speaker 6 (04:28):
Okay, yeah, yeahah.
Speaker 7 (04:29):
So it's just been the transitions all throughout that have
helped me make this transition to off the ball. The
transition is nothing new for me, and I'm just a
football player. I just love football and I love the
game and if I'm out there, I'm trying to be
the best and do the best.
Speaker 9 (04:42):
You know, Nick, I got to say, you know that
that's a heck of a partnership there between having those
different types of relationships with a different position, because it
gives you an overall knowledge of the game and I
think it shows in your play. But you know, there's
been a lot of chatter about your head coach, Nick Sirianni.
This season has been one where if there's any little
(05:03):
mess up, you know, the fans, the media, everyone, it
can be a little volatile. Tell us about Sirianni and
why he's the guy in Philly.
Speaker 6 (05:11):
Yeah, that's it's the media.
Speaker 7 (05:13):
You can't listen to the outside noise because Nick is
such such a powerful leader.
Speaker 6 (05:17):
He gets us fired up. He knows what to do.
He's a players coach.
Speaker 7 (05:21):
First, and credit goes to him and bringing the right
guys and how he bringing the right guys in here
and he's just doing a great job as a leader
and leading this team for sure.
Speaker 9 (05:30):
And I gotta say this too, because we're just showing
the video where he was kind of getting back at
the fans right there, you were right there, you heard everything.
What was your feelings about that?
Speaker 7 (05:39):
Yeah, he's passionate and I freaking love it. He wants
to this team to win and give the fans something
to cheer about, like we all do.
Speaker 6 (05:45):
And yeah, I see myself in the.
Speaker 9 (05:46):
Video there are Yeah, Yeah, I love it.
Speaker 7 (05:49):
I love it. He's fired up. He's passionate guy, and
we're all following his lead.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
Let's go back to March eleventh, and March eleventh was
a big day for the Eagles because not only did
they sign Zach Bong to a one year deal where
you're like, all right, I've got a new home, they
also signed Saquon Barkley.
Speaker 5 (06:06):
Yeah, it was the first day of free.
Speaker 4 (06:07):
Agency, and the two big swings they made were a
player on defense number fifty three and a player on
offense number twenty six. When you guys got to the
building those same days and we're able to say, okay, look,
we're going from different places where we haven't won a lot.
Speaker 5 (06:20):
Recently to be in Philadelphia Eagles.
Speaker 4 (06:22):
What was that relationship with you in Saquon as those
first two free agents brought in this offseason.
Speaker 7 (06:27):
Yeah, when I came in and signed with Saquon, he
was the first one to say, what's up?
Speaker 6 (06:31):
Oh, how you doing.
Speaker 7 (06:32):
I'm first of all, I'm glad that Dud's on our
team because he's playing outstanding right now and being able
to be on the sideline and witness some of the
things he's doing out there, it's crazy.
Speaker 8 (06:41):
Can we get your opinion specifically about the backwards jump.
This is the play of the year in the NFL.
None of us have ever seen anything like it because
it's never happened before. When that goes down and Saquon
leaps backwards over defender, what are you thinking?
Speaker 5 (06:55):
What's the sideline thinking?
Speaker 6 (06:56):
We're thinking, what is he thinking?
Speaker 10 (06:58):
Like?
Speaker 6 (06:58):
Who's doing that? On the football?
Speaker 7 (07:01):
Tremendous play, tremendous athlete and in the better person, it's
crazy to watch.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
It's fun to watch Zach the next serie anything and
how much you love him is probably also based in
the fact that he breeds everything in competition and he's
so fired up. What have some of the things that
that coach has been conducting in practice and meetings recently
that have you guys fired up because we've seen the shots,
We've seen a lot of different stuff. What's been the
competition DuJour?
Speaker 7 (07:27):
Yeah, I mean it's all about competition in this building,
whether it's in the weight room at practice, and then
he brings a fun atmosphere to the locker room and
to the meetings and everything, playing music before in training camp,
guys were playing Madden on the big screen before the
ping pong table in the locker room. And then it's
about the team and togetherness, and I think that's really
bred the culture here, Zach.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
I think it's such a cool deal that you guys
are having this breakout season. But I got to go
back to that Tampa loss and the world was collapsing
and everyone was melting down in the outside, but you
guys found a way during the bye week to.
Speaker 5 (08:01):
Kind of galvanize.
Speaker 4 (08:02):
I think it's a good lesson for not only team sports,
but for anybody when things are at it's worse, like.
Speaker 5 (08:07):
What did you guys say? What did you guys do?
Speaker 4 (08:10):
And how did you kick start a six game winning streak?
Out of the bye because a lot of people were saying,
uh oh, here comes another same old Eagles defense where
it's going to go south just like it did last year.
Speaker 6 (08:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (08:20):
I mean, in a lot of circumstances in early by
a week five bye is not ideal, but for us
it was right at the time, and coming off two losses,
it was a lot of internal stuff, like in the
locker room, guys talking to each other. We all come
from different defenses that have a different standard and we're
trying to form our.
Speaker 6 (08:39):
Identity at the beginning of the season.
Speaker 7 (08:40):
So just getting back to what our identity is and
what we want to be. We still had the rest
of the season to improve and to work on stuff,
and I'm glad it's paying off and we're doing well now.
Speaker 8 (08:50):
Rams this week, then Ravens, you got the Steelers, you
got the Commanders again. It's gonna be a tough road, Zach.
What is the goal right now for the twenty twenty
four Eagles.
Speaker 7 (09:00):
Yeah, obviously give ourselves a shot to have a shot
at the big one and just taking it one game
at a time, right right this week is the Rams
and focusing on the different things that they have and
just taking it all one, one game at a time,
and not looking ahead.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
All right, Zach, this was awesome. We appreciate you joining
us so early in the morning. It's very rare we
start the show and go immediately.
Speaker 5 (09:20):
To a guest. But we were so excited to have you,
and we know.
Speaker 4 (09:22):
You got practice up ahead, so on behalf of the
entire show in the NFL Network. Thank you for joining
us this early in the morning, and go get them
this weekend against the Rams.
Speaker 6 (09:29):
It's going, Zach, Zach, no problem, Thank you guys. Go Birds.
Speaker 5 (09:32):
All right, now, Bird, that's our guy. That's fun.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
We appreciate you.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Zach.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
All right, talk to you soon. Stay healthy, man, We
appreciate you. We're gonna talk everyone else in the league
here on GMFB, but we had to start with the Eagles. However,
looking up, if you're an Eagle, you are looking at
the Detroit Lions. We got to talk about what's going
on in Detroit. Wuld they have ahead for the second
half of this season. Plus it's a Wednesday. That means
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we have a special arts and Crafts project, and by
that I mean, of course Kyle's Ndefeated segment, and we.
Speaker 5 (10:04):
Do have that, and we have wonderful times for the Jets.
Speaker 9 (10:07):
What a season that's been.
Speaker 5 (10:08):
We're going to talk about it.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
Got hell already getting tweets saying, oh, you're just going
to ignore your Jets.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
No, no, we got it.
Speaker 8 (10:13):
Peter and I here in New York and we're going
to talk about that man, about his former boss, his
current bo. We don't even know Jets talk right after this.
We promised we'll roll up our sleeves to get through it.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Good Morning football.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
A lot of decisions have been made of the New
York Jets this season, Ian Rapaport. After week five, it
was the firing of their head coach. Now after week
eleven they make another choice at change at management. What's
going on?
Speaker 11 (10:46):
Jets uose the Bieleague to fire Joe Douglas, their general
manager for the last five plus years, in the final
year of a six year contract. And reality is, we've
known that Joe Douglas and the Jets are likely parting
ways to the end of season. Was not extended prior
to the season. I think it's fair to say it
was a situation. Maybe he didn't love was probably going
to leave at the end of the year no matter what.
Speaker 5 (11:08):
The Jets, you know, what, Let's just.
Speaker 11 (11:10):
Fire him now, start the process of hiring, of starting
to hire a new general manager, get their ducks in
the road, the same like they are doing with a
head coach. You mentioned Robert Sala also fired. So it
is a full house cleaning for the New York Jets.
And what has been just a complete disaster of a
season three and eight. Nothing has gone right. And you
look at the tenure of Joe Douglas. Obviously there have
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been some big time hits in the draft, specifically with
Sauce Gardner and Garrett Wilson, Breese Hall, it's been some
missus Mkai Becked and Zach Wilson obviously at the top
of the list. But so much of the Joe Douglas legacy, guys,
is about Aaron Rodgers. Swung the big trade two off
seasons ago to get Rodgers obviously Teares's Achilles. Then this
year plays and just does not look like himself, looks
(11:55):
like a forty one year old Aaron Rodgers essentially, And
now there are some questions because everyone who brought Aaron
Rodgers in except for Woody Johns to Woody Johnson obviously
still there until he potentially joins the Trump administration administration
takes out in a bastership. So Joe Douglas has gone,
Robert sala is gone, They're gonna have a new coach,
(12:15):
They're gonna have a new GM. Rogers has no guaranteed
money after this year. I think it is fair to
say there's some questions about the direction of the team.
Are they going to want to bring him back? Is
he gonna want to come back with a new coach
and a new GM and potentially a new offense. There
was some finality yesterday, but there are far more questions
than answers when it comes to the New York Jets,
(12:36):
Rogers and everything going forward.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
Ian, thank you so much. Yeah, the reality is this
is not just change up top. This is the fact
that the roster for the Jets, a lot of money
is spent on players that are on the older side
of their career, yet having a lot of young guys
that this next GM is going to have to pay
whoever that may be. Peter, Kyle Akbar, those two gentlemen.
You guys are in New York. What's the temperature down
(12:59):
the street from you, guys? Peter? What are you hearing?
Speaker 6 (13:01):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (13:02):
Well, look, Jets fans are up in arms, obviously because
this season has been such a mess, and I think
from ownership on down to the guys working in the
parking lot, they would tell you that this was as
disastrous a twenty twenty four campaign as they could have
possibly imagined, especially we go back to week one when
there was so much excitement and so much hype going
into this team. Five years is a long time for
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a general manager to be employed and not make the playoffs.
They weren't making the playoffs again, I think on paper,
if you look at it, Joe Douglas's time had run
its course. The question is is he to blame for
how this went down? And should he be the one
to fall on the sword here? Well, that doesn't matter.
Speaker 5 (13:41):
He's gone. The owner's going to make the decisions.
Speaker 4 (13:43):
There's a lot of revisionist history too on this, and
it's like, well, they shouldn't have gotten Rogers, or they
shouldn't have gone for Mike Williams. Are they why did
they go for Devonte?
Speaker 5 (13:52):
Guys?
Speaker 4 (13:52):
They were all in on twenty twenty four, They were
all in the second they made some of those moves
and went after.
Speaker 5 (13:58):
Rogers last year. So when you're all in.
Speaker 4 (14:01):
You swing the bat, you keep on swinging the bat.
There's no in between. Now Sala's gone, Joe Douglas is gone.
I think the original sin for Douglas is that he
never got a quarterback. And it's very rare in this
league that you get a chance to not only inherit
one that was a top three pick in Sam Darnold,
draft your own, which was Zach Wilson, and then get
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the green light to go get Aaron Rodgers. A lot
of people online and a lot of reporters we trust,
are like, yeah, but this guy brought in such a
roster with Sauce and Garrett Wilson and Jermaine Johnson, and
look at all the young talent, and it's like asking,
you know, Mary Todd Lincoln, how is the play?
Speaker 5 (14:37):
You need a quarterback?
Speaker 10 (14:38):
Good?
Speaker 5 (14:39):
You need a quarterback.
Speaker 4 (14:40):
And at the end of the day, that's what's gonna
do the minute. Now they're in this hole where Rogers
might want to come back. Rogers isn't saying I'm retiring
at the end of the season, and the Jets might
not want Rogers back. It's gonna be a decision that
they have to make at the end of the season.
Joe Douglas will be fine. He's a scout. In is
a scout at his heart, like, he'll be okay. He'll
work for twenty years in this league, either being a
(15:00):
GM again or will be a personnel guy.
Speaker 5 (15:02):
But after five and a half year of not.
Speaker 4 (15:05):
Sniffing the playoffs, he's the one who's going to take
the fall here. And to Ian Rappaport's point, the Jets
knew this was happening.
Speaker 5 (15:12):
Douglas news happing. Douglas has not been himself this year.
Speaker 4 (15:14):
He obviously it was just finishing out the string as
it was. Let's everyone get a head start on things.
Joe can figure out what he's gonna do the next
six months of his life, and the Jets can get
a headstart and actually doing research without doing it around
his back on who might be their next general manager.
Speaker 9 (15:28):
Great point. I think Joe douglas tenure kind of underscores
this paradox where you look at an eye for a
talent doesn't necessarily mean that you can necessarily build a roster,
because construction of a roster is totally different. And I
think about Brad Holmes and the way he built his roster,
his team he brings in a course for the Detroit Lions.
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He brings in Dan Campbell. Then you think about Aiden Hutchison,
and you think about Amanron Saint Brown and Penny Sewell,
like these are guys who were cultural change changers. And
so when I think about Joe Douglas, yes, you're getting
the flash pieces, and you're getting the Garrett Since and
you're getting the Davante and the Aaron Rodgers. But that's
not the same as far as building a framework, a foundation.
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And this is what continues to happen to me. This
is New York Jets football, right. This has been happening
for a very long time, and so it's not like
it's new to Joe Douglas. This is something that is
like really deeply embedded into the New York Jets organization.
And I think there's a real opportunity for them to
go out there and fix this. But I think doing
this now, earlier or late in the season gives them
(16:33):
an opportunity to sit back and go, Okay, you know what,
We're not going to rush just because we need to
find something new or go ahead and just plug in
the whole. We actually have to do a tear down.
We have to do a rebuild. I'm actually in the
middle of a remodel right now, and there's a lot
of details that you have to pay attention to. Anybody
who's gone out there and has been in a remodel,
you understand it's the little things that can make a
(16:53):
big difference. And that's where Joe Douglas is right now,
obviously out for the Jets.
Speaker 8 (16:58):
Look I like the way the Lions built their team too.
The Jets tried that way. Joe Douglas tried that way.
They've tried everything, and I just I look at this picture.
Speaker 5 (17:07):
Why don't see it?
Speaker 8 (17:08):
Just a horrible picture, and it's just so cryptic. And
those three were going to take over the world. And
as oh my god, Rogers is actually there. Sala fired,
Douglas fired Rogers, who the hell knows.
Speaker 5 (17:20):
I have no clue where they're going to go with this,
But the legacy of Joe Douglas is this. I agree
with what Peter said.
Speaker 8 (17:26):
I don't really care that you drafted a good running
back and you draft a good wide receiver.
Speaker 5 (17:31):
It's impressive as hell.
Speaker 8 (17:32):
I remember being there at NFL Honors in Arizona when
Sauce and Garrett separately get up to get their Rookie.
Speaker 5 (17:39):
The Year trophies.
Speaker 8 (17:40):
It's like, wow, Joe Douglas, you're really cooking right now.
But on the topic of cooking, you go to a steakhouse,
Big Joe's Steakhouse, and the sides are great, and they're
really good drinks and there's an ambiance and they even
nailed the lighting, and the service.
Speaker 5 (17:56):
Is so good. The steak sucks.
Speaker 8 (17:59):
I can't eat this steak and I've sent it back, sets.
Speaker 5 (18:03):
It back in. The sauce is it's really good. It's incredible.
Actually used to be good.
Speaker 8 (18:06):
It's not that good anymore. But like everything is great.
It is literally called this steakhouse. It's not called a
sauce house or a side house. You can't sit here
and say yeah. But Michael Carter, Zach.
Speaker 5 (18:18):
Wilson was not a win, Aaron Rodgers was not a win, and.
Speaker 8 (18:21):
I guess they really even sent Rogers back because Davante
was not a win and they put a fresh sauce
on it. So Joe Douglas knew what time it was
when he was sitting in the backyard of Aaron Rodgers
Malibua State, and they knew that they were all in
and then way they were making a deal with the
devil and either we're gonna win the Super Bowl or
this thing's gonna blow up in our face. Guess what happened.
It blew up in their face. It didn't work. He
had two whacks to get a quarterback. I don't care
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how many tight ends, linemen or dtackles you get. You
don't have a quarter up. You're gonna have squat. So
I don't feel bad for Joe Douglas. I also am
not carving. Joe Douglas did a really nice job. He's good, dude.
You blew it twice on the quarterback. And the legacy
of all of this is that photograph Salad Gone, Douglas Gone, Rogers,
Who the hell knows?
Speaker 5 (19:01):
Jets, Jets, Jets.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
There's so much fodder online right now about the various
directions that all those gentlemen are going in from that
press conference. What's Sala going to do next year? Aaron Rodgers,
Joe Douglas, Peter to look at the Jets and how
the Johnson family wants to build this organization. Will they
remain in this traditional pathway of GM hire's coach, coach,
higher staff or you know, you look at the Patriots.
(19:24):
For a long time, it was coaching GM was one
and the same. Would they ever kind of break rank
and perhaps hire somebody that demands a different way the
organization is built.
Speaker 4 (19:33):
It's a good question, Jamie, because the fish definition of
insanity's doing the same thing over and over again and
coming up with the same results. And that's what the
Jets have been for the last twenty years, and really
since Woody Johnson took over the team in the early
two thousands. They had a couple of brief years of
Rex Ryan football where they were great, and then it's
been just downtrodden since they had the longest playoff drought
thirteen years.
Speaker 5 (19:51):
They're not going back today. There was an interesting dynamic here.
Speaker 4 (19:54):
Sala reported to the owner and Joe Douglas reported to
the owner separately.
Speaker 5 (19:58):
And when Sala lost his job, I'll tell you. I
told you on the next morning. Joe Douglas wasn't.
Speaker 4 (20:02):
Aware that Sala was getting fired morning, so he shut
up to work and it's like, oh, your guy that
you're arm in arm with, like he's out of work too,
So that list right there, Okay, So it's Joe Douglas.
That is Himie who's the president. That is Christopher Johnson,
the younger brother. That's Aaron Rodgers. And that that's Woody
Johnson too, is right, that's the brain trust with Joe
Douglas with an ex throom. Those are the guys who.
Speaker 5 (20:22):
Are going to decide.
Speaker 4 (20:22):
Now, there's been a lot of talk in league circles
that maybe the Jets hire a president of football operations type.
Speaker 5 (20:28):
You know in Detroit we talk about the Lions.
Speaker 4 (20:30):
Chris Spielman came in and kind of overlooked things from
this president's role, but more of an ownership ally and
a bridge between ownership in the front office. Maybe that's possibility.
And I saw Gary Meyer suggested Curtis Martin for that job.
I've seen Chad Pennington's name mentioned. I've seen Anthony Beck's
name mentioned, who still works with the organization.
Speaker 5 (20:48):
That's a possibility. That's more of like a figurehead position.
You need a coach, You need a coach. GMS in
this league, they'll come and go. They need a coach.
Speaker 4 (20:56):
And I think the most important process here is going
to be a determining what to do with Rogers and
if Rogers wants to come back.
Speaker 5 (21:03):
That is a very interesting.
Speaker 4 (21:04):
Discussion to be had because he does not owe any
more guaranteed money and then be the hiring of the
coach along with a general manager. But I don't know
if it's hey the GM makes a decision on the
coach here. I think coach is so important in the
league right now, GM is almost secondary to who's going
to be the man calling the shots.
Speaker 8 (21:19):
I can't get away if Rogers is coming back next year,
and if he's coming back to football, is he coming
back to the Jets?
Speaker 5 (21:25):
Does he want to come back? I think yes, I
think he does.
Speaker 8 (21:27):
I think, first of all, knowing Rogers, like most of
us do, I think he's stubborn. I think he's fixated
on ending this thing properly. I don't think he wants
to hang it up after this year. Plus whatever arrangement
there is, we'll make a ton of money, and I
think Rogers likes money. The question is also, do the
Jets want Aaron Rodgers back and what is the scenario
through which Rogers could be the starting quarterback. I think
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obviously it would have to do with the head coaching
hire is massive. I think you'd have to get someone
who is a guy who's been around who's experience doesn't
put up any bs who would be like, yeah, sure,
o't coach forty two year old Aaron Rodgers and all
that comes with it. I think then you also may
have to draft a quarterback, and then you're going through
that again, we're doing the Jordan Love experience. I do
think there is a path that Rogers is the Jets
quarterback next year. But there's also a lot of logic
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and probably a lot of emotional support from Jets fans
to just say we're done. Cut him if you have to,
I don't care. Put it this way, you get rid
of Solid, you're rid of Douglas, and you're gonna keep Rogers.
Doesn't that still have all the connective tissue and goes
against just fumigating the whole thing.
Speaker 5 (22:25):
It would be a weird holdover.
Speaker 8 (22:27):
And by the way, he has not played well at
all this year, and he's totally healthy and as all
his friends.
Speaker 5 (22:31):
So what's the case.
Speaker 9 (22:32):
Yeah, I believe that I really.
Speaker 4 (22:34):
Quickly oct par I gotta correct myself before I do.
Speaker 5 (22:36):
I gotta correct stuff.
Speaker 4 (22:37):
So it used to be the structure where it was
separate leading ownership, but I am corrected. Now Sala and
Sala reported to Joe Douglas, and that was the structure.
Speaker 5 (22:46):
It's all.
Speaker 4 (22:47):
The structure doesn't matter. But yes, I just wanted to
correct myself from that. I got confused based on the
old way it was running, the old leadership.
Speaker 9 (22:53):
Go on, Okay, no, that's a good, good call there.
You know, I'm looking at this and I'm going I
do see a place where Aaron Rodgers does come back. A.
He's a competitor, A, he's got the body of work.
But I think he comes back as just a quarterback
and not like an assistant general manager. Because when you
look at this and you start looking at some of
the layers underneath, getting rid of Salah, right, and then
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bringing in Davonte Adams and bringing in Nathaniel Hackett, all
of these things are tied into the decision of what
made Aaron Rodgers comfortable. I think the coach that comes in,
like I said before, and the general manager, if they
go with that structure, has to be somebody who is
a team builder, somebody who understands and has a pulse.
I love what Dan Campbell has done there in Detroit,
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and what Brad Holmes has done is putting around the
pieces again, you can get the talent. The talent is
one thing. Who's going to be that culture leader. And
I will say this because I'm on Twitter and I'm
looking at this or X and I'm seeing people throwing
out Bill Belichick's name. That is not a That is
not a situation you want to be in where you
get a seventy two year old coach and how long
do you expect him to coach for? For four or five, six, seven,
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eight years into his eighties, he'd be the oldest coach ever.
So I think you have to look at somebody who
can meet the players where they are right now and
then grow this team.
Speaker 4 (24:08):
I think that's the beauty of the advantage of doing
it now with coach and GM, you now have this
long runway and there's no excuses if you get the
higher wrong. You're gonna get a chance to speak to
everyone around the league. You talk to consultants, you can
talk to team presidents, you can talk to people in
outside sports how they've built their organizations. You know, a
one piece on like the meddling narrative, that's gonna be
always there. With Woody Johnson, We'll see what the process
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is now. But Joe Douglas had this job for five
and a half years and the team didn't make the playoffs.
Kyle and I both said at the start is say
Joe Douglas.
Speaker 5 (24:37):
Has beloved in the league, like the great dude. He's
gonna be fine.
Speaker 4 (24:41):
I also think that it's very rare in any sport
to have six years in a full contract and to
not make the playoffs.
Speaker 5 (24:48):
So blood has been shed. Rogers is there, Salah.
Speaker 4 (24:53):
And Douglas are not, and they're gonna try to start again.
Speaker 5 (24:55):
But Belichick, Rabel, all these names, Explore them all and
then you'll see where you come out at the end.
Speaker 4 (25:01):
But you now have an entire half of a season
to at least talk to everybody involved in get a
full I guess resume of experience from where you want
to go young guy, old guy, someone who does both jobs,
someone who does one job.
Speaker 5 (25:11):
We'll see. But they have time, and I think the
results weren't there in the end. Sorry, just get the.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
Jump earlier this season for the change a head coach
and now GM and now they have a lot of
decisions to make and for they want to be at
the top of the list for a lot of those
guys heading into the off season. Welcome back everybody.
Speaker 12 (25:27):
A lot of talk about the Jets this morning, but
the Giants announcing earlier this week quarterback Daniel Jones is
being replaced in the starting lineup by Tommy DeVito. But
one Giant Star doesn't agree with the decision. Speaking at
a charity that defensive tackle Dexter Lawrence saying on Jones, quote,
they made the decision based off their evaluations and their
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thoughts and feelings.
Speaker 5 (25:48):
He's the QB one to me, the.
Speaker 12 (25:51):
Best quarterback on the team, but they see things differently.
I guess that's all that matters. Telling quote there from
a teammate looking down to the Lions with an offensive
explosion in the window of the Jaguars. But head coach
Dan Camp says there's still room for improvement on defense,
especially if they end up facing one of the top
teams in the AFC.
Speaker 10 (26:13):
We were out of position on some things, but it
didn't bite us. You know, we were fortunate, and you know,
you won't have that luxury if if you know you're
playing you're playing Josh Allen or Mahomes or you know, though,
you're gonna find it. And so those are things that
that we got to clean up, you know. So, yeah,
there's things to clean up. Even as good as everything
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was and how productive we were, there's there's things to
clean up.
Speaker 12 (26:38):
You don't want that to come back and bite you
in the kneecaps.
Speaker 3 (26:40):
Come to playoffs coming up next.
Speaker 12 (26:42):
It is Whiteboard Wednesday and the GMFB crew is making
their case for the twenty twenty four rookie Sensation.
Speaker 5 (26:48):
You don't want to miss this.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
Good Morning Football.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
It's white forward Wednesday time.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
You know it. We love it.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
We have our markers and our whiteboards and our boards
out here we go. Zach Bond has now become the
mascot of GMFB. We have sensationalized this Eagles linebacker up
and down. Peter Schuger started it off last week talking
about Bond and how wonderfully is Then he caps it
off with Thursday performance. We have him on the show
this morning. It's all perfect. Now that's Peter's perhaps new
NFL sensation this year. Okay, that's just a player. Take
(27:29):
me inside everyone's mindset right now on a Wednesday, Peter,
who else you got to pick? Somebody else beside Zach
Vaughn or what else could be your sensationalized moment in
the NFL right now?
Speaker 4 (27:41):
Can I take you through my favorite story in the
league right now? It is incredible if you really wrap
your head around this. You've got the Detroit Lions as
the number one.
Speaker 5 (27:50):
Team in all of football. They're rolling, They're on their way.
Speaker 4 (27:53):
To a super Bowl, and maybe in the biggest moment
of their biggest game, it's going to come down to
a guy who is a traveling brick salesman six months ago.
I'm talking about Jake Bates in Detroit. Jake Bates did
not kick a field goal in college. Guys, he never
kicked a field goal in college. He was a soccer
player who then was on the football team at Central
Arkansas just kicking at Arkansas State, just kicking long kickoffs.
Speaker 5 (28:17):
He was the long kickoff guy. Just blasted.
Speaker 6 (28:19):
I like that guy.
Speaker 5 (28:20):
Then he gets a tryout for the UFL and wins
that tryout and ends up playing in the UFL and.
Speaker 4 (28:26):
Then makes the Lions this summer after failed attempts with
the Texans last year and another team last year. Now
he's hitting fifty eight yard game winners on Sunday night.
He said it in a press conference after the win
over the Vikings that he was considering being a brick salesman.
Speaker 5 (28:42):
He's bricks, He's a brick. I'm drawing. Jake Bates is
gonna have to make a big kick for the Detroit Lions,
and he might have to decide a super Bowl.
Speaker 8 (28:50):
There's gonna be the title game in Detroit, Phillies in town.
Speaker 5 (28:53):
It Lions down to here comes Jake Bates.
Speaker 4 (28:56):
And Vince Papalali's gonna be like, no, no, no, no, no,
no no, that's my deal.
Speaker 5 (29:00):
You ain't that guy. Jake Bates is the best story
in football. I love this guy, Jake Bates.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
Can you imagine Jake Bates going out of the bars
at Central Arkansas and He's like, I'm the long kickoff guy, Like,
that's that's mine. Yeah, I.
Speaker 5 (29:14):
Love it. I got to Arkanas State red Wolves.
Speaker 9 (29:17):
Let's go Red Wolves. I got one for you. I
got one for you guys. I think you guys gonna
like this one. Jackson Smith and Jigba, this dude right
here is a sensation. There's a reason why he's a
fan favorite and also Gino Smith's favorite. This dude is electric.
I mean, anywhere you situate him, he finds a way
to get open. He's an explosive player. You think about
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what he did against the Rams one hundred and eighty yards.
He's got back to back hundred yard games plus games.
I mean, he's just really been putting on that. I
think what makes it so special is the fact that,
yes he's in the NFC West. People weren't talking about
the Seattle Seahawks, and all of a sudden, this offense
has really just kind of come alive. You would think
DK metcalf is the number one targeting wide receiver. No,
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it's Jackson Smith and Jigba. I just like saying his
name and it's not in a new This dude is
a player, a baller. That's my sensation right there. Json
great win for.
Speaker 8 (30:10):
The Seahawks last week. They could be the come running
team that gets hot in.
Speaker 9 (30:13):
The n SC.
Speaker 6 (30:13):
We don't know.
Speaker 8 (30:13):
Do you know that there's a long form GQ article
about something in the NFL that came out this year?
Speaker 5 (30:19):
Have you noticed that baggy sleeves are back?
Speaker 8 (30:22):
This is becoming a thing. The players out there are
not tight rolling their sleeves, and it's several of them.
There's guys going out there like it's nineteen ninety two
or something like that. Garrett Wilson started it. Look at
the sleeves, they're not tight rolled, they're just hanging down
like they're Peyton Manning or something. But there's a bunch
of guys who are doing it. They got Tyreek is
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doing it, Jalen Ramsey's doing it, Marlon Humphrey's doing it.
Speaker 5 (30:46):
And it's like, what is that? Why does that look
feel familiar to me? The baggy sleeve.
Speaker 8 (30:51):
God is no doubt my man Jake Plumber. So they're
going for Jake Plumber, like flapping in the damn win
there it is. Look at the length on those reboxed sleeves.
Look at that and these aren't quarterbacks who do it
for comfort or something like that. Initially, there was a
dude on TikTok who started noticing that everyone's going with
the long sleeve now and it's spreading.
Speaker 5 (31:10):
People are mad about it, like it looks terrible. Roll
your sleeves up, let's see your shoulders.
Speaker 10 (31:14):
I like it.
Speaker 8 (31:14):
I feel like it's nineteen ninety seven or something like that,
and I think leaves, let's go.
Speaker 5 (31:18):
It's rebox Jersey, please cut. You don't like that it's polarizing.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
You're on TikTok, you're picking up on those TikTok trends.
Speaker 5 (31:27):
No, no, I'm not. I saw the link in on
a TikTok video. It says like you want to download
the app, and I'm like, no, I do not. No,
I'm all about Blue.
Speaker 6 (31:35):
Sky now, just.
Speaker 9 (31:38):
You got a secret account, You got a secret.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
Account, a burner? All right. Gladiator two comes out this Friday.
It's a great two week stretch for movies if you
want ahead to the cinema to start your holidays. As
Maximus would say at my signal, Unleash. Hell, if you
had to pick an NFL player to battle for your life, Peter,
who would be yours? On your wifeboard?
Speaker 5 (31:59):
Jamie.
Speaker 4 (32:00):
First, I've got to apologize for my last segment. I'm
talking about Jake Bates and in this beautiful story, and
I'm like, he went to Central Arkansas. I know he
went to Arkansas State. Didn't go to either one of those.
He went to Texas State and then went to Arkansas.
So I just watched it all together. So I was
I said, Central Arkansas and Arkansas State.
Speaker 5 (32:19):
Texas State, Arkansas.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
You're good.
Speaker 5 (32:22):
I know, I know, I was there. He was a
soccer These guys are.
Speaker 9 (32:26):
It's all human areas, I know.
Speaker 4 (32:27):
But these guys go to seven different colleges.
Speaker 5 (32:30):
Now, I have no idea.
Speaker 9 (32:31):
He was in the portal.
Speaker 5 (32:32):
He was in the portal sixteen times, and they're playing
in the UFL. Trent Williams didn't do no. Trent Williams
is my answer for this one, my NFL warrior. I
go to one play. I go to the NSC Divisional
round up in labou This isn't illegal play. Look at
that guy in motion, just destrat.
Speaker 4 (32:49):
Quts one more time, one more time, seventy one in
motion and an upset.
Speaker 5 (32:54):
Over Aaron Rodgers on a Saturday night. That's the guy
I want in the octagon, in the coliseum, in the Patanon,
whatever you want. I want to see this guy. He's
who I'm going as my gladiator. Who is it's Pascal
or who's the other? There's a new one now, Mescal Mezcal.
I like Mescal. He's going up against those guys. This
is who I'm taking. Trent Williams original center back.
Speaker 9 (33:18):
All right, Trent Williams. That's a big dude, and that's
a big one to follow behind. So I'm gonna go
with the biggest dude on the planet. I'm going with
this dude as my NFL warrior, mister Miles Garrett. Miles
Garrett six y four two and seventy five pounds, zero percent.
In fact, he's got negative percent body fat. This dude
(33:40):
is an absolute monster. We already know what he does
on the field. He's out there just pushing people around,
just sonning folks, putting his hands on people, blessing folks,
just I mean, baptizing folks.
Speaker 5 (33:50):
That's how strong he is.
Speaker 9 (33:52):
But you want a guy that also is dressed like
this on Halloween as the Grim Reaper, A guy that
understands his strength that if he's coming for you, he's
coming for you. He's got the list of quarterbacks that
he's taking out. This is a dude that also, if
you remember, had tombstones of quarterbacks that he sacked on
his front lawn. Like, who does that like tombstones? That's
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my guy right there, Miles Garrett, Like, I got you.
Speaker 5 (34:16):
It's two great choices.
Speaker 8 (34:18):
I mean, I don't want to step in the colissene
with eise of those guys. I don't give a damn
what kind of weapons I have. But you go back
to the original Gladiator real ones know that Maximus wasn't
even the baddest dude in the movie.
Speaker 5 (34:29):
In my opinion, it was Maximus's coach, Proximo Proximal. And
that's why I'm going, are you not entertain man? Just
why you were here?
Speaker 10 (34:40):
Man?
Speaker 5 (34:40):
What we do in life?
Speaker 2 (34:41):
Man?
Speaker 8 (34:42):
That was an attorney man. I would put my life
in that man's hands. If they come to me and
they say, Kyle, you screwed. They're gonna toss you to
the tigers. You gotta choose somebody to fight for you.
I'm gonna go over to to Proximo Campbell. He's gonna
pack in a giant ass dip and he's gonna go
in there and just rip skulls out.
Speaker 9 (35:00):
I would put my faith in it.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
He'll get me home in.
Speaker 8 (35:02):
It might not be pretty, but I'm gonna get behind
Dan Campbell man, and he will do what has to do.
Speaker 5 (35:07):
Tigers man, and he's a lion, He's not afraid of tigers.
Dan Campbell, please get me home, baby, That's all I need.
Speaker 9 (35:14):
We should do a survival pool of Dan Campbell, Miles,
Garrett Trent was and put it all there and see
who comes out on that one.
Speaker 5 (35:21):
There's only one.
Speaker 3 (35:21):
Maximus L three exactly yesterday on the show, I was
regaling my stories about how these interviews that I do
with various media outlets because I like to be friends
with the teams, because I can't say no to interview requests.
And here's how it went. Kyle had some feedback for
me as a person.
Speaker 5 (35:40):
You got a lot going on. It's okay to say
I can't do it this week.
Speaker 3 (35:44):
I can't Minnesota, you can't do it, Okay, so they
call me the Cardinals, the Colts.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
I don't care.
Speaker 3 (35:52):
I'll come on your podcast, I'll do the interview.
Speaker 5 (35:55):
I'll do it.
Speaker 3 (35:56):
Peter, there must be something that you have a hard
time saying no to, Like, hey, Peter, what about fill
in the blank?
Speaker 6 (36:02):
And what is it?
Speaker 4 (36:02):
Because I can't Jamie, I have a I have a
good feeling you're in the same boat as me on
this one because I know you and you're a giver
and you're a lover and you're a helper, and I
get a lot of these and.
Speaker 5 (36:14):
I just let me set the scene.
Speaker 4 (36:15):
I spent my entire twenties in the wilderness writing freelance
as a sports writer for every publication you could imagine.
And there were a few helping hands along the way,
guys and gals that would open a door, give me
a chance. And I always felt indebted, and I still
feel grateful. I get at least one of these a week.
Can you meet with my college age son or daughter
for a second?
Speaker 5 (36:35):
Can you have coffee? They want to get into broadcasting.
They love what you do. I can't say no. I
can't say no.
Speaker 4 (36:43):
I end up on the phone with this nineteen year
old kid aicoes to the university at Toulslo's like, well, I.
Speaker 5 (36:47):
Like gaming and I like Twitch and I don't know.
Speaker 4 (36:49):
My dad says that you're on TV and I don't know,
like do you want to? And most of the time
the kid doesn't even want to get into broadcasting. The
parents want him to get into broadcasting. So my thing
is this, I have a hard time saying no to
this very question because I was that person and there
were a lot of closed doors, and there were a
couple open ones, and I feel like I've got to
pay it forward. But maybe there's another young generation coming,
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people in their thirties and twenties who can do those
calls and those ings now I'm.
Speaker 5 (37:16):
I think my watch is done.
Speaker 6 (37:17):
I might have done the job.
Speaker 5 (37:18):
I'm gonna pad it in. But Jamie Arda, I.
Speaker 4 (37:19):
Bet you've got a five day a week schedule with
a coffee with some college student who wants to do
what you do.
Speaker 3 (37:24):
I do have a standard though. I always say, well,
how old is this person? And if they even whisper
the words high school to me, I say, get back
to me. And for high school, I've heard that before
they're in high school. It's terrible. Oh man, I would
also do it.
Speaker 9 (37:38):
Man, you're a good dude. Man, you're a good dude
for that. And now that you made me feel guilty
because somebody just sit in me a text like that
and I haven't responded yet, so I need.
Speaker 5 (37:45):
To get back. I know it's easier not to.
Speaker 9 (37:48):
What do you go? I've got free food. Free food
is just something that is so hard for me to
say no to. And I'll tell a quick story. I
remember my rookie year and I'm so excited to be
in the NFL and They've got this refrigerator full of
food and snacks and gay raid and I take my
backpack and I'm literally loading up everything to fill up
(38:10):
the backpack, right, it's just the backpack and my playbook.
And Rod Woodson sees me, he goes, you know all
of this stuff is going to be here tomorrow, right,
And I was like, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, oh
that's right, that's so yeah. I still took you. But
it's hard.
Speaker 5 (38:24):
It's free.
Speaker 9 (38:24):
Like if it's free, it's for me, And like it's
hard to get this big.
Speaker 5 (38:29):
I understand, I understand.
Speaker 6 (38:30):
We all love it.
Speaker 8 (38:31):
We grab it, cookies, chips, whatever. I think I cannot
say no to. Some things just never changed. I'm still here,
so it's still I've done a rant on this a
year ago. It cost me some friends. I think it
cost me some business contacts. The text comes in, right,
or the DM comes in, Hey man, you know, I
just want to just hop on a pot, and you're like,
not really. I said, I'm trying to be protective of
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my free time, in my family time. But the problem
is is that text comes in and it's someone that
you regularly or semi regularly text with or DM with,
So you can't not reply because then you can never
text with them again.
Speaker 9 (39:02):
But you also can't just say no, can't do it.
Speaker 5 (39:05):
It's very very difficult.
Speaker 8 (39:06):
So what you end up doing is just say yeah, man,
the share, I'll do it, and they say, you know,
a ten to fifteen.
Speaker 5 (39:11):
Minutes tops, ten to fifteen minutes tops.
Speaker 8 (39:14):
Then you're sitting there twenty seven minutes in your answers
are getting shorter and shorter.
Speaker 6 (39:18):
You know what?
Speaker 8 (39:19):
They always say, we got a few more minutes here
with Kyle Brant from Good Morning Football.
Speaker 5 (39:22):
He's been so generous with this time. Have I been? Really?
When someone who's operating the.
Speaker 8 (39:29):
Cash register at the liquor store gives the money to
the robber, do you say they've.
Speaker 5 (39:33):
Been generous with the cash register.
Speaker 8 (39:35):
No, they just have no choice be there's a gun
in their face and they had to give it to them.
I'm trying to get better with this, but I also
encourage people. It's your time, and time is a currency.
And if you have family and you have friends, you
have things you want to be with, you don't have
to go on every pod. All right, there's reasons to
go on a podcast. If you're any sort of person
who gets invited on podcasts, you're paid, which is really rare.
They have a large platform which could help you. It's
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someone that you're trying to help out like a young
person or a friend of yours, or.
Speaker 5 (40:00):
You just like banging out pod. I just like I
love going on pods, and if you are, that's fine.
That's where I stand on this.
Speaker 8 (40:08):
If one of those things doesn't hit the deal for you,
I don't know why you're saying yes. And so that's
just why I lay it out ten to fifteen minutes
tops tops.
Speaker 5 (40:16):
We're thirty one minutes, man, I'm watching right now.
Speaker 2 (40:19):
Wait all right, we have a.
Speaker 5 (40:20):
Rapid fire around.
Speaker 8 (40:21):
Before you go, We're gonna ask you five quick ones.
Speaker 6 (40:24):
Start the music.
Speaker 5 (40:26):
I gotta go, wat, I gotta get this foot pick up.
Speaker 3 (40:28):
Okay, Kyle, Okay, I've had an about face. It's not
because I can't say no to it. That's not even
my thing. It's because I like just banging out pods,
all right. I like going on the podcast. That's who
I am as a human, alright. I like the sound
of my own voice. Is why I do this for
four hours to day, twenty day's week, twenty hours.
Speaker 5 (40:43):
Week, right, everybody has their reasons.
Speaker 3 (40:46):
Goodbye White for Wednesday.
Speaker 6 (40:47):
Everybody
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Speaker 2 (00:22):
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Speaker 3 (00:24):
This is Good Morning Football. We are live in LA
and New York City. As always, it's Wednesday, November twenty ath.
This is Akbar Baja Biamilla. That's Peter Schrager, that's Kyle Brand.
Great to see you guys in New York. I'm Jamie
ert All Peter, wonderful to see you in LA. On Monday.
You travel back, you had to get back to the
East Coast. There were some happenings in New York yesterday
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with some of those teams. But perhaps we shouldn't focus
on the bad, instead on the good and the second
team in the NFC right now south of you, guys.
Speaker 4 (00:54):
Yeah, Look, we're looking at the NFC standings and you're seeing,
of course, the Lions are getting all the love.
Speaker 5 (01:00):
But on the East Coast, the Eagles are coming.
Speaker 4 (01:02):
Theos have won six straight game and their defense is
oftentimes leading the way. So this is rare for our
show just to open things up like this, unprecedented. But
we've got a guy that we've been talking about for
two weeks.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
Let's tease it.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
Peter the linebacker for the Philadelphia Eagle.
Speaker 5 (01:19):
Zach Bond is going to join us on the show.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Let's go, it's happening. Let's just set the table. Why
Zach Bonn is leading our show today on GMFB.
Speaker 5 (01:30):
Guys, are you familiar with the name Zach Bahn, Zack Bawn.
He's doing everything that Zach Bond, Zach Bonn.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
Who has eighty plus tackles, two plus sacks.
Speaker 5 (01:44):
And an interception this season.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Are you sure that not two tech nag.
Speaker 5 (01:48):
That's Zach Bonn.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
He's about right down, Juck Bond.
Speaker 6 (01:56):
Are you Kirk Man? Ah?
Speaker 5 (01:58):
This is so good.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
He's now joining us live.
Speaker 5 (02:01):
For Philadelphia at this hour.
Speaker 4 (02:05):
Eagles first year linebacker twenty seven year old Zach Bond,
Welcome to the show.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
I'm Jack.
Speaker 6 (02:10):
Thanks for having me, Thanks for having me. It's good
to be here.
Speaker 4 (02:13):
Look, you guys have a huge game coming up on
Sunday night. It's gonna be on NBC. You're traveling to
Los Angeles to play the Rams. But you guys have
not lost a game since you're by and this defense
has been leading the way. You've been one of the
main main figures in that thing. Take us into the
defensive meeting rooms. Right now, what is Vic Fangio saying
to you guys and go around the room and give
a little love because everybody's elevated their game.
Speaker 7 (02:34):
Yeah, if you know Vic Fangio, he's not one to
give too many compliments.
Speaker 6 (02:39):
But credit to everyone on this defense.
Speaker 7 (02:42):
Going into the buy, we had things to look at,
things to take care of, and everyone's been playing well
since it starts. Up front, Dalen Carter, Jordan Davis, the
edges has been on top of everything. We're getting sacks,
we're forcing pressures, the linebackers, myself and the Kobe. The
communication has been really good, flying around making plays, and
then the back end also the communication has been great
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and having Coop in there and Read and quinnyon on
the outside, Slay on the outside. We just got so
many weapons and we're playing really well right now.
Speaker 8 (03:10):
You really do, and you're a team guy, and I
would expect exactly that. But this is a Zach Bond
house and a Zach Bond show. I know it's supposed
to be. Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson. If you started preparing
your MVP s bitch yet, come on, are you getting
into this?
Speaker 5 (03:23):
Let's go? What are you gonna say?
Speaker 6 (03:24):
When you win MVP No. No. One game at a time,
One game at a time.
Speaker 5 (03:31):
Zach's a perfect answer.
Speaker 8 (03:32):
You listen, you mentioned Coop, you mentioned quinnyon Like, we've
been all over these guys. They've been incredible, these young
players in Philadelphia.
Speaker 5 (03:39):
Can you tell us just more about them? We want
more people, more excited about them.
Speaker 6 (03:42):
They're they're quiet guys.
Speaker 7 (03:44):
Honestly, they they're rookies, but they don't act like it.
They're very professional, very on top of everything, asking questions,
communicating out.
Speaker 6 (03:52):
There like their true bets. They're doing a really good job.
Speaker 7 (03:54):
And I'm excited for those guys, especially so Zach.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
When you went from West Bend eat East High School
as a quarterback to Brown Deer High School and became
a line did you ever envision that this is the
way your tenure would start with the Philadelphia Eagles. The
Eagle signed you to the one year deal this last March,
and now you have truly made a name for yourself
at this position within this defense. What is contributing to
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the season that you're having.
Speaker 7 (04:20):
I was actually a receiver at West Bend at West Indiast,
and then I was a quarterback at Brown Dear and Wisconsin.
Speaker 6 (04:28):
Okay, yeah, yeahah.
Speaker 7 (04:29):
So it's just been the transitions all throughout that have
helped me make this transition to off the ball. The
transition is nothing new for me, and I'm just a
football player. I just love football and I love the
game and if I'm out there, I'm trying to be
the best and do the best.
Speaker 9 (04:42):
You know, Nick, I got to say, you know that
that's a heck of a partnership there between having those
different types of relationships with a different position, because it
gives you an overall knowledge of the game and I
think it shows in your play. But you know, there's
been a lot of chatter about your head coach, Nick Sirianni.
This season has been one where if there's any little
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mess up, you know, the fans, the media, everyone, it
can be a little volatile. Tell us about Sirianni and
why he's the guy in Philly.
Speaker 6 (05:11):
Yeah, that's it's the media.
Speaker 7 (05:13):
You can't listen to the outside noise because Nick is
such such a powerful leader.
Speaker 6 (05:17):
He gets us fired up. He knows what to do.
He's a players coach.
Speaker 7 (05:21):
First, and credit goes to him and bringing the right
guys and how he bringing the right guys in here
and he's just doing a great job as a leader
and leading this team for sure.
Speaker 9 (05:30):
And I gotta say this too, because we're just showing
the video where he was kind of getting back at
the fans right there, you were right there, you heard everything.
What was your feelings about that?
Speaker 7 (05:39):
Yeah, he's passionate and I freaking love it. He wants
to this team to win and give the fans something
to cheer about, like we all do.
Speaker 6 (05:45):
And yeah, I see myself in the.
Speaker 9 (05:46):
Video there are Yeah, Yeah, I love it.
Speaker 7 (05:49):
I love it. He's fired up. He's passionate guy, and
we're all following his lead.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
Let's go back to March eleventh, and March eleventh was
a big day for the Eagles because not only did
they sign Zach Bong to a one year deal where
you're like, all right, I've got a new home, they
also signed Saquon Barkley.
Speaker 5 (06:06):
Yeah, it was the first day of free.
Speaker 4 (06:07):
Agency, and the two big swings they made were a
player on defense number fifty three and a player on
offense number twenty six. When you guys got to the
building those same days and we're able to say, okay, look,
we're going from different places where we haven't won a lot.
Speaker 5 (06:20):
Recently to be in Philadelphia Eagles.
Speaker 4 (06:22):
What was that relationship with you in Saquon as those
first two free agents brought in this offseason.
Speaker 7 (06:27):
Yeah, when I came in and signed with Saquon, he
was the first one to say, what's up?
Speaker 6 (06:31):
Oh, how you doing.
Speaker 7 (06:32):
I'm first of all, I'm glad that Dud's on our
team because he's playing outstanding right now and being able
to be on the sideline and witness some of the
things he's doing out there, it's crazy.
Speaker 8 (06:41):
Can we get your opinion specifically about the backwards jump.
This is the play of the year in the NFL.
None of us have ever seen anything like it because
it's never happened before. When that goes down and Saquon
leaps backwards over defender, what are you thinking?
Speaker 5 (06:55):
What's the sideline thinking?
Speaker 6 (06:56):
We're thinking, what is he thinking?
Speaker 10 (06:58):
Like?
Speaker 6 (06:58):
Who's doing that? On the football?
Speaker 7 (07:01):
Tremendous play, tremendous athlete and in the better person, it's
crazy to watch.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
It's fun to watch Zach the next serie anything and
how much you love him is probably also based in
the fact that he breeds everything in competition and he's
so fired up. What have some of the things that
that coach has been conducting in practice and meetings recently
that have you guys fired up because we've seen the shots,
We've seen a lot of different stuff. What's been the
competition DuJour?
Speaker 7 (07:27):
Yeah, I mean it's all about competition in this building,
whether it's in the weight room at practice, and then
he brings a fun atmosphere to the locker room and
to the meetings and everything, playing music before in training camp,
guys were playing Madden on the big screen before the
ping pong table in the locker room. And then it's
about the team and togetherness, and I think that's really
bred the culture here, Zach.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
I think it's such a cool deal that you guys
are having this breakout season. But I got to go
back to that Tampa loss and the world was collapsing
and everyone was melting down in the outside, but you
guys found a way during the bye week to.
Speaker 5 (08:01):
Kind of galvanize.
Speaker 4 (08:02):
I think it's a good lesson for not only team sports,
but for anybody when things are at it's worse, like.
Speaker 5 (08:07):
What did you guys say? What did you guys do?
Speaker 4 (08:10):
And how did you kick start a six game winning streak?
Out of the bye because a lot of people were saying,
uh oh, here comes another same old Eagles defense where
it's going to go south just like it did last year.
Speaker 6 (08:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (08:20):
I mean, in a lot of circumstances in early by
a week five bye is not ideal, but for us
it was right at the time, and coming off two losses,
it was a lot of internal stuff, like in the
locker room, guys talking to each other. We all come
from different defenses that have a different standard and we're
trying to form our.
Speaker 6 (08:39):
Identity at the beginning of the season.
Speaker 7 (08:40):
So just getting back to what our identity is and
what we want to be. We still had the rest
of the season to improve and to work on stuff,
and I'm glad it's paying off and we're doing well now.
Speaker 8 (08:50):
Rams this week, then Ravens, you got the Steelers, you
got the Commanders again. It's gonna be a tough road, Zach.
What is the goal right now for the twenty twenty
four Eagles.
Speaker 7 (09:00):
Yeah, obviously give ourselves a shot to have a shot
at the big one and just taking it one game
at a time, right right this week is the Rams
and focusing on the different things that they have and
just taking it all one, one game at a time,
and not looking ahead.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
All right, Zach, this was awesome. We appreciate you joining
us so early in the morning. It's very rare we
start the show and go immediately.
Speaker 5 (09:20):
To a guest. But we were so excited to have you,
and we know.
Speaker 4 (09:22):
You got practice up ahead, so on behalf of the
entire show in the NFL Network. Thank you for joining
us this early in the morning, and go get them
this weekend against the Rams.
Speaker 6 (09:29):
It's going, Zach, Zach, no problem, Thank you guys. Go Birds.
Speaker 5 (09:32):
All right, now, Bird, that's our guy. That's fun.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
We appreciate you.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Zach.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
All right, talk to you soon. Stay healthy, man, We
appreciate you. We're gonna talk everyone else in the league
here on GMFB, but we had to start with the Eagles. However,
looking up, if you're an Eagle, you are looking at
the Detroit Lions. We got to talk about what's going
on in Detroit. Wuld they have ahead for the second
half of this season. Plus it's a Wednesday. That means
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we have a special arts and Crafts project, and by
that I mean, of course Kyle's Ndefeated segment, and we.
Speaker 5 (10:04):
Do have that, and we have wonderful times for the Jets.
Speaker 9 (10:07):
What a season that's been.
Speaker 5 (10:08):
We're going to talk about it.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
Got hell already getting tweets saying, oh, you're just going
to ignore your Jets.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
No, no, we got it.
Speaker 8 (10:13):
Peter and I here in New York and we're going
to talk about that man, about his former boss, his
current bo. We don't even know Jets talk right after this.
We promised we'll roll up our sleeves to get through it.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Good Morning football.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
A lot of decisions have been made of the New
York Jets this season, Ian Rapaport. After week five, it
was the firing of their head coach. Now after week
eleven they make another choice at change at management. What's
going on?
Speaker 11 (10:46):
Jets uose the Bieleague to fire Joe Douglas, their general
manager for the last five plus years, in the final
year of a six year contract. And reality is, we've
known that Joe Douglas and the Jets are likely parting
ways to the end of season. Was not extended prior
to the season. I think it's fair to say it
was a situation. Maybe he didn't love was probably going
to leave at the end of the year no matter what.
Speaker 5 (11:08):
The Jets, you know, what, Let's just.
Speaker 11 (11:10):
Fire him now, start the process of hiring, of starting
to hire a new general manager, get their ducks in
the road, the same like they are doing with a
head coach. You mentioned Robert Sala also fired. So it
is a full house cleaning for the New York Jets.
And what has been just a complete disaster of a
season three and eight. Nothing has gone right. And you
look at the tenure of Joe Douglas. Obviously there have
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been some big time hits in the draft, specifically with
Sauce Gardner and Garrett Wilson, Breese Hall, it's been some
missus Mkai Becked and Zach Wilson obviously at the top
of the list. But so much of the Joe Douglas legacy, guys,
is about Aaron Rodgers. Swung the big trade two off
seasons ago to get Rodgers obviously Teares's Achilles. Then this
year plays and just does not look like himself, looks
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like a forty one year old Aaron Rodgers essentially, And
now there are some questions because everyone who brought Aaron
Rodgers in except for Woody Johns to Woody Johnson obviously
still there until he potentially joins the Trump administration administration
takes out in a bastership. So Joe Douglas has gone,
Robert sala is gone, They're gonna have a new coach,
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They're gonna have a new GM. Rogers has no guaranteed
money after this year. I think it is fair to
say there's some questions about the direction of the team.
Are they going to want to bring him back? Is
he gonna want to come back with a new coach
and a new GM and potentially a new offense. There
was some finality yesterday, but there are far more questions
than answers when it comes to the New York Jets,
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Rogers and everything going forward.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
Ian, thank you so much. Yeah, the reality is this
is not just change up top. This is the fact
that the roster for the Jets, a lot of money
is spent on players that are on the older side
of their career, yet having a lot of young guys
that this next GM is going to have to pay
whoever that may be. Peter, Kyle Akbar, those two gentlemen.
You guys are in New York. What's the temperature down
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the street from you, guys? Peter? What are you hearing?
Speaker 6 (13:01):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (13:02):
Well, look, Jets fans are up in arms, obviously because
this season has been such a mess, and I think
from ownership on down to the guys working in the
parking lot, they would tell you that this was as
disastrous a twenty twenty four campaign as they could have
possibly imagined, especially we go back to week one when
there was so much excitement and so much hype going
into this team. Five years is a long time for
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a general manager to be employed and not make the playoffs.
They weren't making the playoffs again, I think on paper,
if you look at it, Joe Douglas's time had run
its course. The question is is he to blame for
how this went down? And should he be the one
to fall on the sword here? Well, that doesn't matter.
Speaker 5 (13:41):
He's gone. The owner's going to make the decisions.
Speaker 4 (13:43):
There's a lot of revisionist history too on this, and
it's like, well, they shouldn't have gotten Rogers, or they
shouldn't have gone for Mike Williams. Are they why did
they go for Devonte?
Speaker 5 (13:52):
Guys?
Speaker 4 (13:52):
They were all in on twenty twenty four, They were
all in the second they made some of those moves
and went after.
Speaker 5 (13:58):
Rogers last year. So when you're all in.
Speaker 4 (14:01):
You swing the bat, you keep on swinging the bat.
There's no in between. Now Sala's gone, Joe Douglas is gone.
I think the original sin for Douglas is that he
never got a quarterback. And it's very rare in this
league that you get a chance to not only inherit
one that was a top three pick in Sam Darnold,
draft your own, which was Zach Wilson, and then get
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the green light to go get Aaron Rodgers. A lot
of people online and a lot of reporters we trust,
are like, yeah, but this guy brought in such a
roster with Sauce and Garrett Wilson and Jermaine Johnson, and
look at all the young talent, and it's like asking,
you know, Mary Todd Lincoln, how is the play?
Speaker 5 (14:37):
You need a quarterback?
Speaker 10 (14:38):
Good?
Speaker 5 (14:39):
You need a quarterback.
Speaker 4 (14:40):
And at the end of the day, that's what's gonna
do the minute. Now they're in this hole where Rogers
might want to come back. Rogers isn't saying I'm retiring
at the end of the season, and the Jets might
not want Rogers back. It's gonna be a decision that
they have to make at the end of the season.
Joe Douglas will be fine. He's a scout. In is
a scout at his heart, like, he'll be okay. He'll
work for twenty years in this league, either being a
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GM again or will be a personnel guy.
Speaker 5 (15:02):
But after five and a half year of not.
Speaker 4 (15:05):
Sniffing the playoffs, he's the one who's going to take
the fall here. And to Ian Rappaport's point, the Jets
knew this was happening.
Speaker 5 (15:12):
Douglas news happing. Douglas has not been himself this year.
Speaker 4 (15:14):
He obviously it was just finishing out the string as
it was. Let's everyone get a head start on things.
Joe can figure out what he's gonna do the next
six months of his life, and the Jets can get
a headstart and actually doing research without doing it around
his back on who might be their next general manager.
Speaker 9 (15:28):
Great point. I think Joe douglas tenure kind of underscores
this paradox where you look at an eye for a
talent doesn't necessarily mean that you can necessarily build a roster,
because construction of a roster is totally different. And I
think about Brad Holmes and the way he built his roster,
his team he brings in a course for the Detroit Lions.
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He brings in Dan Campbell. Then you think about Aiden Hutchison,
and you think about Amanron Saint Brown and Penny Sewell,
like these are guys who were cultural change changers. And
so when I think about Joe Douglas, yes, you're getting
the flash pieces, and you're getting the Garrett Since and
you're getting the Davante and the Aaron Rodgers. But that's
not the same as far as building a framework, a foundation.
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And this is what continues to happen to me. This
is New York Jets football, right. This has been happening
for a very long time, and so it's not like
it's new to Joe Douglas. This is something that is
like really deeply embedded into the New York Jets organization.
And I think there's a real opportunity for them to
go out there and fix this. But I think doing
this now, earlier or late in the season gives them
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an opportunity to sit back and go, Okay, you know what,
We're not going to rush just because we need to
find something new or go ahead and just plug in
the whole. We actually have to do a tear down.
We have to do a rebuild. I'm actually in the
middle of a remodel right now, and there's a lot
of details that you have to pay attention to. Anybody
who's gone out there and has been in a remodel,
you understand it's the little things that can make a
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big difference. And that's where Joe Douglas is right now,
obviously out for the Jets.
Speaker 8 (16:58):
Look I like the way the Lions built their team too.
The Jets tried that way. Joe Douglas tried that way.
They've tried everything, and I just I look at this picture.
Speaker 5 (17:07):
Why don't see it?
Speaker 8 (17:08):
Just a horrible picture, and it's just so cryptic. And
those three were going to take over the world. And
as oh my god, Rogers is actually there. Sala fired,
Douglas fired Rogers, who the hell knows.
Speaker 5 (17:20):
I have no clue where they're going to go with this,
But the legacy of Joe Douglas is this. I agree
with what Peter said.
Speaker 8 (17:26):
I don't really care that you drafted a good running
back and you draft a good wide receiver.
Speaker 5 (17:31):
It's impressive as hell.
Speaker 8 (17:32):
I remember being there at NFL Honors in Arizona when
Sauce and Garrett separately get up to get their Rookie.
Speaker 5 (17:39):
The Year trophies.
Speaker 8 (17:40):
It's like, wow, Joe Douglas, you're really cooking right now.
But on the topic of cooking, you go to a steakhouse,
Big Joe's Steakhouse, and the sides are great, and they're
really good drinks and there's an ambiance and they even
nailed the lighting, and the service.
Speaker 5 (17:56):
Is so good. The steak sucks.
Speaker 8 (17:59):
I can't eat this steak and I've sent it back, sets.
Speaker 5 (18:03):
It back in. The sauce is it's really good. It's incredible.
Actually used to be good.
Speaker 8 (18:06):
It's not that good anymore. But like everything is great.
It is literally called this steakhouse. It's not called a
sauce house or a side house. You can't sit here
and say yeah. But Michael Carter, Zach.
Speaker 5 (18:18):
Wilson was not a win, Aaron Rodgers was not a win, and.
Speaker 8 (18:21):
I guess they really even sent Rogers back because Davante
was not a win and they put a fresh sauce
on it. So Joe Douglas knew what time it was
when he was sitting in the backyard of Aaron Rodgers
Malibua State, and they knew that they were all in
and then way they were making a deal with the
devil and either we're gonna win the Super Bowl or
this thing's gonna blow up in our face. Guess what happened.
It blew up in their face. It didn't work. He
had two whacks to get a quarterback. I don't care
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how many tight ends, linemen or dtackles you get. You
don't have a quarter up. You're gonna have squat. So
I don't feel bad for Joe Douglas. I also am
not carving. Joe Douglas did a really nice job. He's good, dude.
You blew it twice on the quarterback. And the legacy
of all of this is that photograph Salad Gone, Douglas Gone, Rogers,
Who the hell knows?
Speaker 5 (19:01):
Jets, Jets, Jets.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
There's so much fodder online right now about the various
directions that all those gentlemen are going in from that
press conference. What's Sala going to do next year? Aaron Rodgers,
Joe Douglas, Peter to look at the Jets and how
the Johnson family wants to build this organization. Will they
remain in this traditional pathway of GM hire's coach, coach,
higher staff or you know, you look at the Patriots.
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For a long time, it was coaching GM was one
and the same. Would they ever kind of break rank
and perhaps hire somebody that demands a different way the
organization is built.
Speaker 4 (19:33):
It's a good question, Jamie, because the fish definition of
insanity's doing the same thing over and over again and
coming up with the same results. And that's what the
Jets have been for the last twenty years, and really
since Woody Johnson took over the team in the early
two thousands. They had a couple of brief years of
Rex Ryan football where they were great, and then it's
been just downtrodden since they had the longest playoff drought
thirteen years.
Speaker 5 (19:51):
They're not going back today. There was an interesting dynamic here.
Speaker 4 (19:54):
Sala reported to the owner and Joe Douglas reported to
the owner separately.
Speaker 5 (19:58):
And when Sala lost his job, I'll tell you. I
told you on the next morning. Joe Douglas wasn't.
Speaker 4 (20:02):
Aware that Sala was getting fired morning, so he shut
up to work and it's like, oh, your guy that
you're arm in arm with, like he's out of work too,
So that list right there, Okay, So it's Joe Douglas.
That is Himie who's the president. That is Christopher Johnson,
the younger brother. That's Aaron Rodgers. And that that's Woody
Johnson too, is right, that's the brain trust with Joe
Douglas with an ex throom. Those are the guys who.
Speaker 5 (20:22):
Are going to decide.
Speaker 4 (20:22):
Now, there's been a lot of talk in league circles
that maybe the Jets hire a president of football operations type.
Speaker 5 (20:28):
You know in Detroit we talk about the Lions.
Speaker 4 (20:30):
Chris Spielman came in and kind of overlooked things from
this president's role, but more of an ownership ally and
a bridge between ownership in the front office. Maybe that's possibility.
And I saw Gary Meyer suggested Curtis Martin for that job.
I've seen Chad Pennington's name mentioned. I've seen Anthony Beck's
name mentioned, who still works with the organization.
Speaker 5 (20:48):
That's a possibility. That's more of like a figurehead position.
You need a coach, You need a coach. GMS in
this league, they'll come and go. They need a coach.
Speaker 4 (20:56):
And I think the most important process here is going
to be a determining what to do with Rogers and
if Rogers wants to come back.
Speaker 5 (21:03):
That is a very interesting.
Speaker 4 (21:04):
Discussion to be had because he does not owe any
more guaranteed money and then be the hiring of the
coach along with a general manager. But I don't know
if it's hey the GM makes a decision on the
coach here. I think coach is so important in the
league right now, GM is almost secondary to who's going
to be the man calling the shots.
Speaker 8 (21:19):
I can't get away if Rogers is coming back next year,
and if he's coming back to football, is he coming
back to the Jets?
Speaker 5 (21:25):
Does he want to come back? I think yes, I
think he does.
Speaker 8 (21:27):
I think, first of all, knowing Rogers, like most of
us do, I think he's stubborn. I think he's fixated
on ending this thing properly. I don't think he wants
to hang it up after this year. Plus whatever arrangement
there is, we'll make a ton of money, and I
think Rogers likes money. The question is also, do the
Jets want Aaron Rodgers back and what is the scenario
through which Rogers could be the starting quarterback. I think
(21:49):
obviously it would have to do with the head coaching
hire is massive. I think you'd have to get someone
who is a guy who's been around who's experience doesn't
put up any bs who would be like, yeah, sure,
o't coach forty two year old Aaron Rodgers and all
that comes with it. I think then you also may
have to draft a quarterback, and then you're going through
that again, we're doing the Jordan Love experience. I do
think there is a path that Rogers is the Jets
quarterback next year. But there's also a lot of logic
(22:11):
and probably a lot of emotional support from Jets fans
to just say we're done. Cut him if you have to,
I don't care. Put it this way, you get rid
of Solid, you're rid of Douglas, and you're gonna keep Rogers.
Doesn't that still have all the connective tissue and goes
against just fumigating the whole thing.
Speaker 5 (22:25):
It would be a weird holdover.
Speaker 8 (22:27):
And by the way, he has not played well at
all this year, and he's totally healthy and as all
his friends.
Speaker 5 (22:31):
So what's the case.
Speaker 9 (22:32):
Yeah, I believe that I really.
Speaker 4 (22:34):
Quickly oct par I gotta correct myself before I do.
Speaker 5 (22:36):
I gotta correct stuff.
Speaker 4 (22:37):
So it used to be the structure where it was
separate leading ownership, but I am corrected. Now Sala and
Sala reported to Joe Douglas, and that was the structure.
Speaker 5 (22:46):
It's all.
Speaker 4 (22:47):
The structure doesn't matter. But yes, I just wanted to
correct myself from that. I got confused based on the
old way it was running, the old leadership.
Speaker 9 (22:53):
Go on, Okay, no, that's a good, good call there.
You know, I'm looking at this and I'm going I
do see a place where Aaron Rodgers does come back. A.
He's a competitor, A, he's got the body of work.
But I think he comes back as just a quarterback
and not like an assistant general manager. Because when you
look at this and you start looking at some of
the layers underneath, getting rid of Salah, right, and then
(23:15):
bringing in Davonte Adams and bringing in Nathaniel Hackett, all
of these things are tied into the decision of what
made Aaron Rodgers comfortable. I think the coach that comes in,
like I said before, and the general manager, if they
go with that structure, has to be somebody who is
a team builder, somebody who understands and has a pulse.
I love what Dan Campbell has done there in Detroit,
(23:38):
and what Brad Holmes has done is putting around the
pieces again, you can get the talent. The talent is
one thing. Who's going to be that culture leader. And
I will say this because I'm on Twitter and I'm
looking at this or X and I'm seeing people throwing
out Bill Belichick's name. That is not a That is
not a situation you want to be in where you
get a seventy two year old coach and how long
do you expect him to coach for? For four or five, six, seven,
(24:00):
eight years into his eighties, he'd be the oldest coach ever.
So I think you have to look at somebody who
can meet the players where they are right now and
then grow this team.
Speaker 4 (24:08):
I think that's the beauty of the advantage of doing
it now with coach and GM, you now have this
long runway and there's no excuses if you get the
higher wrong. You're gonna get a chance to speak to
everyone around the league. You talk to consultants, you can
talk to team presidents, you can talk to people in
outside sports how they've built their organizations. You know, a
one piece on like the meddling narrative, that's gonna be
always there. With Woody Johnson, We'll see what the process
(24:30):
is now. But Joe Douglas had this job for five
and a half years and the team didn't make the playoffs.
Kyle and I both said at the start is say
Joe Douglas.
Speaker 5 (24:37):
Has beloved in the league, like the great dude. He's
gonna be fine.
Speaker 4 (24:41):
I also think that it's very rare in any sport
to have six years in a full contract and to
not make the playoffs.
Speaker 5 (24:48):
So blood has been shed. Rogers is there, Salah.
Speaker 4 (24:53):
And Douglas are not, and they're gonna try to start again.
Speaker 5 (24:55):
But Belichick, Rabel, all these names, Explore them all and
then you'll see where you come out at the end.
Speaker 4 (25:01):
But you now have an entire half of a season
to at least talk to everybody involved in get a
full I guess resume of experience from where you want
to go young guy, old guy, someone who does both jobs,
someone who does one job.
Speaker 5 (25:11):
We'll see. But they have time, and I think the
results weren't there in the end. Sorry, just get the.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
Jump earlier this season for the change a head coach
and now GM and now they have a lot of
decisions to make and for they want to be at
the top of the list for a lot of those
guys heading into the off season. Welcome back everybody.
Speaker 12 (25:27):
A lot of talk about the Jets this morning, but
the Giants announcing earlier this week quarterback Daniel Jones is
being replaced in the starting lineup by Tommy DeVito. But
one Giant Star doesn't agree with the decision. Speaking at
a charity that defensive tackle Dexter Lawrence saying on Jones, quote,
they made the decision based off their evaluations and their
(25:47):
thoughts and feelings.
Speaker 5 (25:48):
He's the QB one to me, the.
Speaker 12 (25:51):
Best quarterback on the team, but they see things differently.
I guess that's all that matters. Telling quote there from
a teammate looking down to the Lions with an offensive
explosion in the window of the Jaguars. But head coach
Dan Camp says there's still room for improvement on defense,
especially if they end up facing one of the top
teams in the AFC.
Speaker 10 (26:13):
We were out of position on some things, but it
didn't bite us. You know, we were fortunate, and you know,
you won't have that luxury if if you know you're
playing you're playing Josh Allen or Mahomes or you know, though,
you're gonna find it. And so those are things that
that we got to clean up, you know. So, yeah,
there's things to clean up. Even as good as everything
(26:34):
was and how productive we were, there's there's things to
clean up.
Speaker 12 (26:38):
You don't want that to come back and bite you
in the kneecaps.
Speaker 3 (26:40):
Come to playoffs coming up next.
Speaker 12 (26:42):
It is Whiteboard Wednesday and the GMFB crew is making
their case for the twenty twenty four rookie Sensation.
Speaker 5 (26:48):
You don't want to miss this.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
Good Morning Football.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
It's white forward Wednesday time.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
You know it. We love it.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
We have our markers and our whiteboards and our boards
out here we go. Zach Bond has now become the
mascot of GMFB. We have sensationalized this Eagles linebacker up
and down. Peter Schuger started it off last week talking
about Bond and how wonderfully is Then he caps it
off with Thursday performance. We have him on the show
this morning. It's all perfect. Now that's Peter's perhaps new
NFL sensation this year. Okay, that's just a player. Take
(27:29):
me inside everyone's mindset right now on a Wednesday, Peter,
who else you got to pick? Somebody else beside Zach
Vaughn or what else could be your sensationalized moment in
the NFL right now?
Speaker 4 (27:41):
Can I take you through my favorite story in the
league right now? It is incredible if you really wrap
your head around this. You've got the Detroit Lions as
the number one.
Speaker 5 (27:50):
Team in all of football. They're rolling, They're on their way.
Speaker 4 (27:53):
To a super Bowl, and maybe in the biggest moment
of their biggest game, it's going to come down to
a guy who is a traveling brick salesman six months ago.
I'm talking about Jake Bates in Detroit. Jake Bates did
not kick a field goal in college. Guys, he never
kicked a field goal in college. He was a soccer
player who then was on the football team at Central
Arkansas just kicking at Arkansas State, just kicking long kickoffs.
Speaker 5 (28:17):
He was the long kickoff guy. Just blasted.
Speaker 6 (28:19):
I like that guy.
Speaker 5 (28:20):
Then he gets a tryout for the UFL and wins
that tryout and ends up playing in the UFL and.
Speaker 4 (28:26):
Then makes the Lions this summer after failed attempts with
the Texans last year and another team last year. Now
he's hitting fifty eight yard game winners on Sunday night.
He said it in a press conference after the win
over the Vikings that he was considering being a brick salesman.
Speaker 5 (28:42):
He's bricks, He's a brick. I'm drawing. Jake Bates is
gonna have to make a big kick for the Detroit Lions,
and he might have to decide a super Bowl.
Speaker 8 (28:50):
There's gonna be the title game in Detroit, Phillies in town.
Speaker 5 (28:53):
It Lions down to here comes Jake Bates.
Speaker 4 (28:56):
And Vince Papalali's gonna be like, no, no, no, no, no,
no no, that's my deal.
Speaker 5 (29:00):
You ain't that guy. Jake Bates is the best story
in football. I love this guy, Jake Bates.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
Can you imagine Jake Bates going out of the bars
at Central Arkansas and He's like, I'm the long kickoff guy, Like,
that's that's mine. Yeah, I.
Speaker 5 (29:14):
Love it. I got to Arkanas State red Wolves.
Speaker 9 (29:17):
Let's go Red Wolves. I got one for you. I
got one for you guys. I think you guys gonna
like this one. Jackson Smith and Jigba, this dude right
here is a sensation. There's a reason why he's a
fan favorite and also Gino Smith's favorite. This dude is electric.
I mean, anywhere you situate him, he finds a way
to get open. He's an explosive player. You think about
(29:38):
what he did against the Rams one hundred and eighty yards.
He's got back to back hundred yard games plus games.
I mean, he's just really been putting on that. I
think what makes it so special is the fact that,
yes he's in the NFC West. People weren't talking about
the Seattle Seahawks, and all of a sudden, this offense
has really just kind of come alive. You would think
DK metcalf is the number one targeting wide receiver. No,
(29:59):
it's Jackson Smith and Jigba. I just like saying his
name and it's not in a new This dude is
a player, a baller. That's my sensation right there. Json
great win for.
Speaker 8 (30:10):
The Seahawks last week. They could be the come running
team that gets hot in.
Speaker 9 (30:13):
The n SC.
Speaker 6 (30:13):
We don't know.
Speaker 8 (30:13):
Do you know that there's a long form GQ article
about something in the NFL that came out this year?
Speaker 5 (30:19):
Have you noticed that baggy sleeves are back?
Speaker 8 (30:22):
This is becoming a thing. The players out there are
not tight rolling their sleeves, and it's several of them.
There's guys going out there like it's nineteen ninety two
or something like that. Garrett Wilson started it. Look at
the sleeves, they're not tight rolled, they're just hanging down
like they're Peyton Manning or something. But there's a bunch
of guys who are doing it. They got Tyreek is
(30:42):
doing it, Jalen Ramsey's doing it, Marlon Humphrey's doing it.
Speaker 5 (30:46):
And it's like, what is that? Why does that look
feel familiar to me? The baggy sleeve.
Speaker 8 (30:51):
God is no doubt my man Jake Plumber. So they're
going for Jake Plumber, like flapping in the damn win
there it is. Look at the length on those reboxed sleeves.
Look at that and these aren't quarterbacks who do it
for comfort or something like that. Initially, there was a
dude on TikTok who started noticing that everyone's going with
the long sleeve now and it's spreading.
Speaker 5 (31:10):
People are mad about it, like it looks terrible. Roll
your sleeves up, let's see your shoulders.
Speaker 10 (31:14):
I like it.
Speaker 8 (31:14):
I feel like it's nineteen ninety seven or something like that,
and I think leaves, let's go.
Speaker 5 (31:18):
It's rebox Jersey, please cut. You don't like that it's polarizing.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
You're on TikTok, you're picking up on those TikTok trends.
Speaker 5 (31:27):
No, no, I'm not. I saw the link in on
a TikTok video. It says like you want to download
the app, and I'm like, no, I do not. No,
I'm all about Blue.
Speaker 6 (31:35):
Sky now, just.
Speaker 9 (31:38):
You got a secret account, You got a secret.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
Account, a burner? All right. Gladiator two comes out this Friday.
It's a great two week stretch for movies if you
want ahead to the cinema to start your holidays. As
Maximus would say at my signal, Unleash. Hell, if you
had to pick an NFL player to battle for your life, Peter,
who would be yours? On your wifeboard?
Speaker 5 (31:59):
Jamie.
Speaker 4 (32:00):
First, I've got to apologize for my last segment. I'm
talking about Jake Bates and in this beautiful story, and
I'm like, he went to Central Arkansas. I know he
went to Arkansas State. Didn't go to either one of those.
He went to Texas State and then went to Arkansas.
So I just watched it all together. So I was
I said, Central Arkansas and Arkansas State.
Speaker 5 (32:19):
Texas State, Arkansas.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
You're good.
Speaker 5 (32:22):
I know, I know, I was there. He was a
soccer These guys are.
Speaker 9 (32:26):
It's all human areas, I know.
Speaker 4 (32:27):
But these guys go to seven different colleges.
Speaker 5 (32:30):
Now, I have no idea.
Speaker 9 (32:31):
He was in the portal.
Speaker 5 (32:32):
He was in the portal sixteen times, and they're playing
in the UFL. Trent Williams didn't do no. Trent Williams
is my answer for this one, my NFL warrior. I
go to one play. I go to the NSC Divisional
round up in labou This isn't illegal play. Look at
that guy in motion, just destrat.
Speaker 4 (32:49):
Quts one more time, one more time, seventy one in
motion and an upset.
Speaker 5 (32:54):
Over Aaron Rodgers on a Saturday night. That's the guy
I want in the octagon, in the coliseum, in the Patanon,
whatever you want. I want to see this guy. He's
who I'm going as my gladiator. Who is it's Pascal
or who's the other? There's a new one now, Mescal Mezcal.
I like Mescal. He's going up against those guys. This
is who I'm taking. Trent Williams original center back.
Speaker 9 (33:18):
All right, Trent Williams. That's a big dude, and that's
a big one to follow behind. So I'm gonna go
with the biggest dude on the planet. I'm going with
this dude as my NFL warrior, mister Miles Garrett. Miles
Garrett six y four two and seventy five pounds, zero percent.
In fact, he's got negative percent body fat. This dude
(33:40):
is an absolute monster. We already know what he does
on the field. He's out there just pushing people around,
just sonning folks, putting his hands on people, blessing folks,
just I mean, baptizing folks.
Speaker 5 (33:50):
That's how strong he is.
Speaker 9 (33:52):
But you want a guy that also is dressed like
this on Halloween as the Grim Reaper, A guy that
understands his strength that if he's coming for you, he's
coming for you. He's got the list of quarterbacks that
he's taking out. This is a dude that also, if
you remember, had tombstones of quarterbacks that he sacked on
his front lawn. Like, who does that like tombstones? That's
(34:13):
my guy right there, Miles Garrett, Like, I got you.
Speaker 5 (34:16):
It's two great choices.
Speaker 8 (34:18):
I mean, I don't want to step in the colissene
with eise of those guys. I don't give a damn
what kind of weapons I have. But you go back
to the original Gladiator real ones know that Maximus wasn't
even the baddest dude in the movie.
Speaker 5 (34:29):
In my opinion, it was Maximus's coach, Proximo Proximal. And
that's why I'm going, are you not entertain man? Just
why you were here?
Speaker 10 (34:40):
Man?
Speaker 5 (34:40):
What we do in life?
Speaker 2 (34:41):
Man?
Speaker 8 (34:42):
That was an attorney man. I would put my life
in that man's hands. If they come to me and
they say, Kyle, you screwed. They're gonna toss you to
the tigers. You gotta choose somebody to fight for you.
I'm gonna go over to to Proximo Campbell. He's gonna
pack in a giant ass dip and he's gonna go
in there and just rip skulls out.
Speaker 9 (35:00):
I would put my faith in it.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
He'll get me home in.
Speaker 8 (35:02):
It might not be pretty, but I'm gonna get behind
Dan Campbell man, and he will do what has to do.
Speaker 5 (35:07):
Tigers man, and he's a lion, He's not afraid of tigers.
Dan Campbell, please get me home, baby, That's all I need.
Speaker 9 (35:14):
We should do a survival pool of Dan Campbell, Miles,
Garrett Trent was and put it all there and see
who comes out on that one.
Speaker 5 (35:21):
There's only one.
Speaker 3 (35:21):
Maximus L three exactly yesterday on the show, I was
regaling my stories about how these interviews that I do
with various media outlets because I like to be friends
with the teams, because I can't say no to interview requests.
And here's how it went. Kyle had some feedback for
me as a person.
Speaker 5 (35:40):
You got a lot going on. It's okay to say
I can't do it this week.
Speaker 3 (35:44):
I can't Minnesota, you can't do it, Okay, so they
call me the Cardinals, the Colts.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
I don't care.
Speaker 3 (35:52):
I'll come on your podcast, I'll do the interview.
Speaker 5 (35:55):
I'll do it.
Speaker 3 (35:56):
Peter, there must be something that you have a hard
time saying no to, Like, hey, Peter, what about fill
in the blank?
Speaker 6 (36:02):
And what is it?
Speaker 4 (36:02):
Because I can't Jamie, I have a I have a
good feeling you're in the same boat as me on
this one because I know you and you're a giver
and you're a lover and you're a helper, and I
get a lot of these and.
Speaker 5 (36:14):
I just let me set the scene.
Speaker 4 (36:15):
I spent my entire twenties in the wilderness writing freelance
as a sports writer for every publication you could imagine.
And there were a few helping hands along the way,
guys and gals that would open a door, give me
a chance. And I always felt indebted, and I still
feel grateful. I get at least one of these a week.
Can you meet with my college age son or daughter
for a second?
Speaker 5 (36:35):
Can you have coffee? They want to get into broadcasting.
They love what you do. I can't say no. I
can't say no.
Speaker 4 (36:43):
I end up on the phone with this nineteen year
old kid aicoes to the university at Toulslo's like, well, I.
Speaker 5 (36:47):
Like gaming and I like Twitch and I don't know.
Speaker 4 (36:49):
My dad says that you're on TV and I don't know,
like do you want to? And most of the time
the kid doesn't even want to get into broadcasting. The
parents want him to get into broadcasting. So my thing
is this, I have a hard time saying no to
this very question because I was that person and there
were a lot of closed doors, and there were a
couple open ones, and I feel like I've got to
pay it forward. But maybe there's another young generation coming,
(37:11):
people in their thirties and twenties who can do those
calls and those ings now I'm.
Speaker 5 (37:16):
I think my watch is done.
Speaker 6 (37:17):
I might have done the job.
Speaker 5 (37:18):
I'm gonna pad it in. But Jamie Arda, I.
Speaker 4 (37:19):
Bet you've got a five day a week schedule with
a coffee with some college student who wants to do
what you do.
Speaker 3 (37:24):
I do have a standard though. I always say, well,
how old is this person? And if they even whisper
the words high school to me, I say, get back
to me. And for high school, I've heard that before
they're in high school. It's terrible. Oh man, I would
also do it.
Speaker 9 (37:38):
Man, you're a good dude. Man, you're a good dude
for that. And now that you made me feel guilty
because somebody just sit in me a text like that
and I haven't responded yet, so I need.
Speaker 5 (37:45):
To get back. I know it's easier not to.
Speaker 9 (37:48):
What do you go? I've got free food. Free food
is just something that is so hard for me to
say no to. And I'll tell a quick story. I
remember my rookie year and I'm so excited to be
in the NFL and They've got this refrigerator full of
food and snacks and gay raid and I take my
backpack and I'm literally loading up everything to fill up
(38:10):
the backpack, right, it's just the backpack and my playbook.
And Rod Woodson sees me, he goes, you know all
of this stuff is going to be here tomorrow, right,
And I was like, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, oh
that's right, that's so yeah. I still took you. But
it's hard.
Speaker 5 (38:24):
It's free.
Speaker 9 (38:24):
Like if it's free, it's for me, And like it's
hard to get this big.
Speaker 5 (38:29):
I understand, I understand.
Speaker 6 (38:30):
We all love it.
Speaker 8 (38:31):
We grab it, cookies, chips, whatever. I think I cannot
say no to. Some things just never changed. I'm still here,
so it's still I've done a rant on this a
year ago. It cost me some friends. I think it
cost me some business contacts. The text comes in, right,
or the DM comes in, Hey man, you know, I
just want to just hop on a pot, and you're like,
not really. I said, I'm trying to be protective of
(38:53):
my free time, in my family time. But the problem
is is that text comes in and it's someone that
you regularly or semi regularly text with or DM with,
So you can't not reply because then you can never
text with them again.
Speaker 9 (39:02):
But you also can't just say no, can't do it.
Speaker 5 (39:05):
It's very very difficult.
Speaker 8 (39:06):
So what you end up doing is just say yeah, man,
the share, I'll do it, and they say, you know,
a ten to fifteen.
Speaker 5 (39:11):
Minutes tops, ten to fifteen minutes tops.
Speaker 8 (39:14):
Then you're sitting there twenty seven minutes in your answers
are getting shorter and shorter.
Speaker 6 (39:18):
You know what?
Speaker 8 (39:19):
They always say, we got a few more minutes here
with Kyle Brant from Good Morning Football.
Speaker 5 (39:22):
He's been so generous with this time. Have I been? Really?
When someone who's operating the.
Speaker 8 (39:29):
Cash register at the liquor store gives the money to
the robber, do you say they've.
Speaker 5 (39:33):
Been generous with the cash register.
Speaker 8 (39:35):
No, they just have no choice be there's a gun
in their face and they had to give it to them.
I'm trying to get better with this, but I also
encourage people. It's your time, and time is a currency.
And if you have family and you have friends, you
have things you want to be with, you don't have
to go on every pod. All right, there's reasons to
go on a podcast. If you're any sort of person
who gets invited on podcasts, you're paid, which is really rare.
They have a large platform which could help you. It's
(39:56):
someone that you're trying to help out like a young
person or a friend of yours, or.
Speaker 5 (40:00):
You just like banging out pod. I just like I
love going on pods, and if you are, that's fine.
That's where I stand on this.
Speaker 8 (40:08):
If one of those things doesn't hit the deal for you,
I don't know why you're saying yes. And so that's
just why I lay it out ten to fifteen minutes
tops tops.
Speaker 5 (40:16):
We're thirty one minutes, man, I'm watching right now.
Speaker 2 (40:19):
Wait all right, we have a.
Speaker 5 (40:20):
Rapid fire around.
Speaker 8 (40:21):
Before you go, We're gonna ask you five quick ones.
Speaker 6 (40:24):
Start the music.
Speaker 5 (40:26):
I gotta go, wat, I gotta get this foot pick up.
Speaker 3 (40:28):
Okay, Kyle, Okay, I've had an about face. It's not
because I can't say no to it. That's not even
my thing. It's because I like just banging out pods,
all right. I like going on the podcast. That's who
I am as a human, alright. I like the sound
of my own voice. Is why I do this for
four hours to day, twenty day's week, twenty hours.
Speaker 5 (40:43):
Week, right, everybody has their reasons.
Speaker 3 (40:46):
Goodbye White for Wednesday.
Speaker 6 (40:47):
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