April 23, 2025 • 42 mins
Hour Two of the Good Morning Football Podcast brings the latest news heading into the NFL Draft. Hosts Jamie Erdahl, Kyle Brandt, Tom Pelissero, Michael Robinson and LeRoy Butler discuss the Cowboys direction in the first round. LeRoy gives his thoughts on the talks between Aaron Rodgers and the Steelers. Plus, Prospect Malaki Starks reveals how Georgia has prepared him for his journey into the NFL.
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
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It was already a football town, but now greatness is
on the clock tomorrow before the first round of the
NFL Draft, Round two on Friday, and the subsequent rounds
on Saturday.
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You can catch all the.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Coverage right here and across ESPN as well, but most importantly,
it's GMFB and it's happening right now. Tom Pellisero and Rob,
Kyle Brandt and Kyle Brant. I just want you to
do the proper introduction the way that you know how,
the fanboy style of LAROI yeah, just go ahead, Kyle
Cook because he can hear you well.
Speaker 5 (01:01):
I can cook because I grew up a Bears fan.
Speaker 6 (01:03):
Leroy.
Speaker 7 (01:04):
I know if you go on to lambeau Field between
the years nineteen ninety and two thousand and one, don't
throw it anywhere close to thirty six because he's gonna
get it, he's gonna return it, and he's gonna jump
in the stands. We see all these celebrations now, parent
trap handshakes and dances. This guy is the godfather of
the celebrations in the modern era, the Lambeau Leap, the game,
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the Hall of Fame. Larroy Butler has always had it
going on. It's a privilege to have you on man.
Great to see him.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Thank you so much, CHL. I really appreciate that I've
been a Bears fan. I apologize.
Speaker 7 (01:34):
Oh yeah, the Bears are the reason you're in the
Hall of Fame, LaRoy.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
All right, So you also have a relationship with a
dad of a prospect in the NFL Draft, and we're
gonna get to this this hour. This guy played for
years and friends for years at Dion Sanders, which inherently
you know that he knows the family.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
Tom Pelisera, you came out with an article.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Last night on NFL dot com assessing all eighteen quarterback prospects,
or not all, but eighteen of the quarterback prospects. Who
did you speak to around the league? How did you
garner all of these opinions? And where is the headline
leading us?
Speaker 8 (02:08):
Manual exercise coaches, scouts, gms, other executives try to get
to the real answers, because if you guys listen to
press conferences. Every guy is a first round pick. Everybody's
a great player. This is just trying to get both
positive and negative the strengths and the weaknesses of all
the different quarterbacks. Certainly there was a heavy focus on
Shador Sanders and trying to peel back all the different
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layers up it. You certainly have some positive opinions about
Chador as a player in terms of what he put
on tape in college. Is the Big Twelve Conference Player
of the year, He was the second team All American.
If you sack up his wow throws, as one executive
told me, he's probably got the best collection of those
over the whole entire crop. This other stuff, it's the
ability to stuff from structure in the pocket, checkdowns, the
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easy gimmes. But if you want to isolate the high level,
high degree of difficulties, then to me, there's a difference
between him and the other guys.
Speaker 9 (02:56):
He certainly saw that with Chadur.
Speaker 8 (02:58):
The questions are going to become, is Chadur the player
about all right? He's not the biggest guy, he doesn't
have the biggest arm, he doesn't have the elite athletic
profile that his father once did. So how is he
going to adjust his play style? Is he going to
be able to play a little bit differently?
Speaker 5 (03:10):
Then?
Speaker 8 (03:11):
Obviously there's other questions because this is a player who
comes from a different background than anybody else. This is
one of one. There are not many guys that grow
up with the greatest athlete of all time as their father,
much less their coach, all the way through youth football
to high school to college. There's a lot of things
that people are trying to figure out about. How is
he going to survive and thrive in an NFL type
of a locker room. You remember walking in once upon
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a time to an NFL lockerroom, It's just a different
type of an environment. To the extent that he had interviews,
some of them did not go well at all. And
this is one quote that I'm sure is going to
be played all over the internet. But it's the worst
formal interview I've ever been in, entitled takes unnecessary sacks,
never plays on time, horrible body language, playings teammates. That
obviously is the most negative comment.
Speaker 9 (03:52):
That was in the story.
Speaker 8 (03:53):
You can read all twenty two hundred words and about
twelve thousand words on all the quarterbacks, but certainly that
was a feeling that was not unanimous or excuse me,
not unique to one person. That's something I heard from
a variety of different people. Now, it doesn't mean that
everybody feels that way. It sounds like an interviewed with Pittsburgh,
for instance, went really, well, you know Dion, you've known
him for a long time.
Speaker 9 (04:13):
You've watched a lot of Shador.
Speaker 8 (04:15):
What do you make of Shador the person, the prospect
as he had for the NFL run.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
The thing about the NFL quarterback is that's the one
position you want to try to get right. The thing
about Shador ever since you can just tell the pedigree.
But he's built for this. And I'll be very honest
with you. I remember seeing Aaron Rodgers who was supposed
to go number one overall and went twenty four, and
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he's just sitting there and sitting there. I've seen other
guys that go number one overall and they turned out
to be bussed. In my opinion, the loner he stays
on the board, the better it is for him. You
go to better teams. If you go to them teams
in the top eight, nine, ten, you're gonna lose a lot.
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So I think for the most part, he's built for whatever,
and I think he's ready because he's gonna make a
difference wherever you go.
Speaker 7 (05:10):
Well, I mean this is a LaRoy, a guy who
was hanging around to the forty eighth pick. He knows
all about this. But you also Leroy, listen, elephant in
the room. You go way back with Dion. You guys
are both Florida State defensive backs in the same era.
Speaker 6 (05:21):
You have known him, I imagine since the eighties.
Speaker 7 (05:24):
What do you make of this factor that maybe a
team like shador as an athlete in a vacuum, but
doesn't want Dion hovering, doesn't want the extra immedia prestige
and all that that comes with drafting as Sanders.
Speaker 5 (05:37):
What do you make of that?
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Kyle? I'm confused because first I've heard that if you
didn't grow up with your father, you would be a criminal,
because that happens. So now you grew up with your
father and you get bad press the same thing. Who
I think is to go Lebron James LEBRONI the thing
about Dion, he's a fantastic father. But yes, his kids
want to be like their father, and they're gonna pay
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their own weight, but nobody said it was going to
be easy. The criticism doesn't really bother most people. What
bothers them is that you're unfairly comparing them to somebody else.
Because at one point I thought it's gonna be the
number one pick over Cam, but now Cam has emerged
for whatever reason. People have it, but we know how
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the NFL is. Kyle. All you need is the opportunity
once you get that opportunity. But he needs to do
like Jordan loved did. Go somewhere on a great team
and you can sit for a couple of years and
just take over. You don't have to start from scratch,
because you could be I'm sorry, Kyle, you could be
like Caleb and gets sacked two thousand times. That doesn't happen.
Speaker 9 (06:53):
To conduct an hour long roast here on.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
I Love Kyle.
Speaker 6 (07:01):
Cast start was a win in that building.
Speaker 5 (07:03):
You can look it up.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Oh no, yes, right about that.
Speaker 5 (07:08):
You're right, you're right about that.
Speaker 10 (07:09):
But right you said something important. You said something important.
You talked about pedigree, and I don't think that gets
talked about him enough. People try to compare Shador to
his pops, Deon Sanders and things and think that the
athletes you know, supposed to be the same, and they're
knocking him because the athlete isn't the same. But you
mentioned that word pedigree, and I tell people all the time.
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You know Archie Manning, you know he was a you know,
good athlete, but his sons wasn't the better the best athletes, right,
But he knew what to teach him.
Speaker 5 (07:39):
He knew the answers.
Speaker 10 (07:40):
To the test to make them successful in the National
Football League.
Speaker 5 (07:43):
And that's how I look at Prime and shaduor Sanders.
Speaker 10 (07:46):
Yes, shud Do's not gonna go out there and run
a four three or four to two or anything like that.
He's not going to throw the ball one hundred yards.
But what he does understand how to do is how
to operate with a subpar offensive line. He does know
how to operate when there's chaos going on around him.
And if you're going to go in the first round,
especially with a lot of these guys they want to
go on at the top of the first round. Just
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like you said, Leroy, there's gonna be chaos on those teams,
so you better get a guy that understands how to
deal with it. And it's truly a force Multiplier talked
about it earlier in the show. Tom Brady would have
probably still win the sixth round right this year. I mean,
he's not a guy who's gonna run a hope, run
real fast, or throw the ball one hundred yards. It
wasn't until hindsight when you look back and you call
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him the greatest winner ever. I look at your door
Sanders in that wave and not calling.
Speaker 5 (08:34):
Him Tom Brady. By looking at him in that mode,
I like that.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
I think for the most part, real quick set me
one point for some completion. That's pretty good.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
I want a guy keep the ball out of harm's way,
who can run a pro style offense. And if you
want to run the ride and decide and check at
the line, he's your guy.
Speaker 9 (08:56):
But can he do this LeRoi? That's the question.
Speaker 8 (08:58):
Is he gonna be able to move around again and
extend plays and be backing up and throwing off his
back foot and complete these passes. If you were to
play DV against him, I imagine you're looking at your
chops watching it.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Well, I think the thing about it is the arm
figures and he throws wide receiver friendly balls back shoulder
to the hip. Where do you want it outside in
those kind of traits he should talk about more because
he was the best in college football at that. If
it's a fade route, he asks Travis, where do you
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want it, and he puts it on that spot. If
the quarterback does that, you don't need to have a
strong arm to do that. You just can have the
mentality to take that from the classroom to the field.
And that's what I like about it. Look where you
see all these passes, they're exactly where. That's what the
receiver wants it away from us, because if you throw
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it to us, he's gonna get hurt. Throw it down
low like that, the kind of throws that I like
that only his receiver can get it. He's the only
quarterback that can do that. To me, that's very valuable.
Speaker 10 (10:03):
Yeah, I think, and I know we talked about Chicago
in this conversation as well, But when you look at
Caleb Williams a year ago, Tommy pe to your point,
a lot of the running around that happened in college.
He was having guys wide opening the flat, but he'd
run around to show the arm talent. I don't always
see that in Shador. Chador had to run around because
the offensive line stuck in front of him. I know
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he wouldn't say that, but that was the reality of it,
so he had to move around. If he has a
better offensive line, the kid gets the ball out on time.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
I like Shador well.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
If I know is that if I were on the
board of trustees at Colorado, I'd be very thrilled of
it this year's NFL draft, because all you're seeing is
that branding that helmet this stadium. And it's not just
because of Shador Leroy, it's because of the other player.
And you mentioned him, the guy that's telling him exactly
where he needs that back shoulder fad or where he
needs that ball in Travis Hunter. Our second down is
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talking about the two way player, the sensation that as
we know it is Travis Hunter, and the advocacy that
he has done on his behalf to play both sides
in the NFL.
Speaker 4 (11:06):
Can he do it?
Speaker 3 (11:08):
Do you think he should? And to what level? Can
he participate on both units in the NFL?
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Realistically? No? But Roy Greene, all the way back, long
time ago you're in our part, he played it. They
have packages for athletes like this. There were ten or
fifteen plays that's all you need but for you to
be in a meeting and get the entire package the
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other offenses meeting as well, so that you don't go
back and forth. But what they do in the NFL,
if you can help me win games, they have a
package for you. Now, for the most part, you want
him to understand that wherever you draft him, they don't
draft athletes in the NFL. You either a corner or
wide receiver. But yes, they will have a handful of
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plays maybe more to pull him to be on offense
and put him in that slot because normally in the
slot is the third corner on all the teams. He
can beat those guys one on one. You would not
be very smart not to use him. But if he
can do it, they'll try it out at OTA's and
all that. But for meeting purposes in a meeting, it's
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physically impossible the time.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
It takes that.
Speaker 7 (12:23):
Leroy just set aside for a second what they'll do
with him when they draft. And we haven't got to
talk to you about Travis Hunter. What do you make
of a guy who is the best receiver in this
draft and the best corner and it's playing over one
hundred snaps at a very high level of college football
as a former defensive back.
Speaker 6 (12:38):
Do you marvel at this?
Speaker 9 (12:39):
What are your thoughts?
Speaker 2 (12:40):
He's not human. I want to see his birth certificate.
I want to see his parents. I want of some
of his blood, because the guy's truly amazed. I've never
seen him drink water, and he reminds me of somebody
Deon Standers. Deon did everything, punt returns, wide receiver, cornerback.
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I mean, if you want him to play guard, he
do it. This is a player that if you're a
team like Jacksonville and you want to go up to
get him, and you put in with Brian Thomas Junior
my fantasy team by the way, oh, that would be
an amazing tandem moving forward for coach Cohen. He's going
to make a difference for somebody. If you go on
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that top five. The teams are not very good, but
he can make it so much easier for the other
guys in the room.
Speaker 4 (13:28):
What's your fantasy team name?
Speaker 2 (13:29):
Well at leap thirty six?
Speaker 6 (13:31):
Yeah, no, naturally too, guys.
Speaker 5 (13:39):
Check it out guys for me. I see Travis. He's
a defensive back.
Speaker 10 (13:43):
I see Travis as an elite defensive back who has
high he's also a high end.
Speaker 5 (13:47):
Wide receiver as well.
Speaker 10 (13:48):
Until Arroy's point, a meeting time, which meeting room is
he going to go into if he's going to play
both sides of the football practice, And you know, I
didn't play both sides of the football, but I did
do a lot on offense, and practice was almost hell
from me. So I can only imagine going through practice
having to, you know, do all the intricate details of defense,
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playing on the outside, being able to play in the
slot on defense, being able to know all the adjustments,
and being able to go on the offensive side, because
see guys, on offense, it's all about adjusting, it's all
about you know, precise timing and all of those types
of things. So offensive coaches are gonna want their top
wide receiver in meeting rooms and in practice all the time.
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And I just don't know if it's physically possible for
Travis to play both sides.
Speaker 5 (14:37):
Of the ball full time.
Speaker 10 (14:38):
But to to everybody's point, if he can get ten
to fifteen, possibly twenty plays depending on your opponent of
wide receiver play and get some real yards off of
those plays, I think I think he'll be fine in
this rookie.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
Year, all thirty two are going to try to make
themselves better and it starts on Thursday night right here
in Green Bay, first round, right outside of lambeau Field.
As our third down, we're gonna have a Cowboys conversation.
Speaker 4 (15:02):
The Cowboys hold the number twelve pick right now.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
The last time the Cowboys had the twelve spot, they
picked out of Penn State Micah.
Speaker 4 (15:09):
Parsons back in twenty twenty one.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
They're COO and co owner Stephen Jodes says the team
doesn't have to make a trade though this year to
land an impact player.
Speaker 11 (15:19):
You know, at the end of the day, those things
work themselves out. I mean, we never went into that draft,
Micah's draft, thinking we were going to pick Micah in
a pass rusher slash linebacker. The year we picked CD,
we were thinking we were going pass rusher all the
way and we end up with a receiver. And you know,
great things happen when you do things like that.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
All right, So let's do an exercise for our third down.
We're going to finish the sentence and m Rob, I'll
t you up first. It would impress me if the
Cowboys did blank at this year's NFL Draft.
Speaker 10 (15:51):
Oh wait, man, that's a tough one right there. I'm
gonna say this. I'm going to say if they draft
an offensive lineman, preferably maybe the kid out of ohiose
date Josh Simmons that tackle, possibly Men Bow out of Missouri.
But this team, the Dallas Cowboys, they were really good
when they had a strong offensive line and just taking
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the big power guys up front and so that you
can run the football and get it back later on
in his draft and the play action pass comes alive
for Dak Prescott.
Speaker 5 (16:22):
So yeah, I like them taking a tackle.
Speaker 6 (16:24):
Okay, I'll finish the sentence.
Speaker 7 (16:26):
The Cowboys in the first round would impress me if
they did anything.
Speaker 6 (16:29):
Can we get some sort of dynamic move by the
Dallas Cowboys?
Speaker 5 (16:33):
Are they?
Speaker 7 (16:34):
What is going on right now? Because I've seen them better,
I've seen them worse. I have never seen the Dallas
Cowboys this boring.
Speaker 6 (16:42):
They're not interesting.
Speaker 7 (16:43):
They're by far the fourth most interesting team in the
NFC East, when all those other teams have a million
things going on, uninspired coaching, higher, totally tedious, boring storyline
about Michaeh Parsons and not paying them. Because we've seen
it a thousand times with this team. If you just
sit at twelve and say, well, take the defensive tackle
who was sitting there, I mean, make a move, move up,
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go get some many dynamic, move into the top ten,
move into the top eight, make a bleeping splash. I
can't believe I have to tell the Cowboys this. They're
mister Splash over there, owning the team, and yet it's
just it's just a flatline right now. It feels like
there's no reason to be really genuinely excited about the
twenty twenty five Cowboys. But they can change all that
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to make the draft or night. You have the spark,
and I can't believe I have to tell them that.
Speaker 8 (17:28):
To that end, I would say the Cowboys in first
round would impress me if they do what Jerry Jones
yesterday claimed out of nowhere they're going to do, which
is he said they've got two different big trades in
the works, which is not anything gray anyone ever telegraphs.
It sounds like a thing that you say to make
people think, hey, we're really working on something, there are
they actually was this just Jerry getting the headline because
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he all coverages good coverage to him or are they
really working on something here? They've got some needs. They
need another wide receiver, they need help in the secondary.
They could probably use another pass rusher. No, they signed
Donte FOLLERBB. They'd probably use another pass rusher opposite Michael Parsons.
Speaker 9 (18:06):
Here, what are these in the trade? Are these real trades?
Speaker 8 (18:09):
Are you treating your lunch Jerry at the cafeteria table
just you know, getting cheetos for trdos?
Speaker 9 (18:14):
This real thing. I'd be impressed with you if they
actually pull up the trade.
Speaker 4 (18:17):
What do you think fill in the blank? You're a
final answer here.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
I'll be impressed if they do the Herschel Walker deal
all over again. Risk it all, get the number one
running back, risk it all, get them whatever they want.
Go up and get the number one running back with
the generational player that can put you over the top.
That what really impressed me. And then how feel right?
Can go eat your potato Saturday? Yeah, that's it.
Speaker 9 (18:42):
You know they're on the other end of the Walker deal.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
That worked out well, I know, but this is new time.
We got to eat all. Risk it all? Could you
let the running back that you should have had? Derrick
Henry wanted to come and you you fumbled it, no
pun intended, get it back, risk it all and go.
Speaker 4 (19:01):
Get ging said risk it all? Could you stay the
whole hour?
Speaker 2 (19:04):
Yes, Yes, he's in.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
Yes, the Hall of Famer is saying, I can imagine
that a prospect that we have coming on this hour.
And Malachi Sarks is going to be thrilled to sit
here with Leroy Butler a little bit, get to know
him a little bit better. The Georgia's secondary product is
going to join the rest of the dogs in the NFL. Kyle,
He's coming on in Green Bay.
Speaker 6 (19:25):
Hell yes, And Laroy's not going anywhere.
Speaker 7 (19:27):
If you're in Lambeau, you try to run down a
packer's legend.
Speaker 5 (19:30):
He's hanging out with us.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
Give me a foot, Get up, LaRoy.
Speaker 5 (19:32):
Oh that wall was higher back then.
Speaker 6 (19:34):
I swear that's the Godfather we're.
Speaker 5 (19:36):
Going to talk about all.
Speaker 6 (19:37):
This is going to tell stories from the nineties.
Speaker 7 (19:39):
You can't beat a good morning football and Draft week.
Speaker 9 (19:51):
Good morning football.
Speaker 12 (19:55):
Aaron Rodgers and DeVante Adams, nasty like Chryslave and Derek Carr.
He just sat here and I did like he didn't
and just do the most random future whoever gonna be
the quarterback for DK, Metcalf and George Pickens.
Speaker 13 (20:14):
I love that. That's a hell of a hell.
Speaker 12 (20:16):
Of the league neighbors. Who's gonna be Darius Flinton?
Speaker 5 (20:20):
I don't know who's good quarterback gonna be too?
Speaker 2 (20:23):
Yeah, you never know.
Speaker 13 (20:23):
They got a lot of quarterbacks over there. They might
have they might have another one.
Speaker 5 (20:27):
He never knows.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
We're just gonna keep adding quarterbacks to the list and topics.
The Shadoor Sanders conversation Laurie Butler on GMFB All Hour
right now ahead of the NFL Draft, which starts tomorrow
here in Green Bay.
Speaker 4 (20:39):
Laura, you know Shador Sanders, you know the family, you know.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
His dad's super Well, what do you make of the
fact that Shar's going around ranking his favorite quarterback wide
receiver combos, but also teasing a little bit that it
sounds like his meeting with the Steelers went great and
he specifically loves DK and George and Pittsburgh.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
I just love history, I love football guys who love football,
and I like that he picks people that other people
would never think. You know, I want to hear other
thought like that, because I mean, the goat to me
is Roger Staubacher, Drew Pearson. I mean, I was a
Cowboy fan growing up. I used to cry, don't tell
nobody when they lost games. So when he threw the
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ball at eighty eight, it was amazing to me. But
I love the fact that you know that age group
now moving forward, likes guys that they still can compete with. Sure,
back in the day, you always picked somebody who retired
a long time ago, the Gohots, yep, but somebody that
you can play with. And you know what, I think
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his meeting with Pittsburgh should go well, yeah, because he
would be a great fit there.
Speaker 4 (21:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
Remember I said earlier, the longer you wait, huh, the
better opportunity is for you.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
You know, we actually didn't get your I just want
to get a quick thought from La ROI. We talked
about Shador, but we didn't get your analysis of the
fact that Tom Pellasero has this quote about Shdor out there.
What is your if you were a player and you
know Shador, Well, what do you think he's feeling that
these things are still being said about him as the
clock is taken closer to the draft.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
It doesn't bother him because ever since he was little,
he've heard stuff because Deondrer dad and he is an
amazing mother. So you always heard that you with a
power couple, and you're a child and stuff like that.
So that don't bother him. It really doesn't. And I
think for the most part, what doesn't really get to
him is if you would have saw a bunch of
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positive stuff, they say, oh, they're just that's a bunch
of smoke. It's not really true. I like when you
have an honest opinion, and I don't want to be
around a bunch of yes people tell me what you
think about me. But at the end of the day,
it ain't up to them, it's up to him. He
just need a program where I have just started one. Yes,
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you don't need one team, yep. One team to say
I must have that young man and to continue to
develop him. That could be nine with the Saints, could
be Pittsburgh, or it could be a team to say,
you know what, I need a guy because I want
to do like the Packers. Yes, had an MVP quarterback,
but you know what we did. We went and got
Jordan Love, so we're not terrible in the future. That's
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why we got Jorde Love. In twenty twenty at Aaron
Rodger at MVP. Go get him some weapons. No, go
to the cunts. It's the guy and shout out to
all the up that was a big move in this stake. Yes,
people went crazy, but at the end of the day,
Mart Murphy, thank you, because you have to get a
(23:32):
quarterback before you need one, So why not get a
guy that can complete over seventy percent of his passes
One of my best friends in the world, Steve Young.
Those don't type of numbers. But what I like is
ball placement on the hip, on the outside, over the shoulder,
keep the ball out of harm's way. And I think
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the right coaching staff can help him with that. Keep
it low. If your guy doesn't get it, it's out
of battles in the dirt. I love that and some
of that stuff you can't really but he's had that
from his parents in day one and Rob.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
You know what I love hanging out with Hall of
famers that they say things like my best friend Steve
Young is just like called casual sentence, Samraw, what do
you got on this topic?
Speaker 5 (24:15):
You gotta love it, man, players, man, you gotta know
what you know.
Speaker 10 (24:18):
I love that, Jamie. But to LeRoy's point, just listening
to Shadua throughout this throughout this process and hearing that quote,
I mean he understands marketing.
Speaker 5 (24:28):
Guys.
Speaker 10 (24:28):
He mentioned the two teams that need quarterbacks that are
in this draft, that are going to potentially that could
potentially draft him. He mentioned elite neighbors in New York.
He mentioned George Pickens, DK Metcalf and the Steelers. Duh, Like,
of course, yeah, I'm gonna say those names too because
I want him to pick me and Laury. I know,
you remember when Prime was going through his free agency
(24:49):
back in the day, back in the early nineties, Prime
understood marketing. He would say things out in the public
to get teams to react.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
They know this, and you know Prime.
Speaker 5 (25:01):
Is his father.
Speaker 10 (25:02):
So at the end of the day, I understand exactly
where should do what's coming from. He's going to say
things to put the thought not only in teams' minds
that they should pick him, but in our minds because
we're the media, we and you know, we affect public opinion.
Speaker 5 (25:16):
So I get all of it.
Speaker 10 (25:18):
And to your point, Larroy's over seventy percent completion is
one thing I want my quarterback to do is put
the ball where I wanted to be put and put
it in an advantageous.
Speaker 5 (25:27):
Position for me to go do work.
Speaker 10 (25:29):
Shadure Sanders does all of that to me, He's the
force multiplier in this draft.
Speaker 7 (25:34):
Yeah, Mike, I think you're on something listening to in talk.
It's Chaudeur has a crush on the Steelers, and I
get it.
Speaker 6 (25:41):
I totally understand why he'd want to land there. The
fascinating thing still is.
Speaker 7 (25:45):
Is this Rogers steal because the Steelers had or have
a crush on Rogers. So he comes out and he
tells McAfee like, yeah, I don't know, like that's a
huge deal because Rogers thing is always I'm not gonna
leave anybody waiting. I'm going to clear things up, Like
you don't want to have teams going into the draft
not knowing if they're getting you. So it's like the
(26:05):
Steelers Jamie used to give We used to give those
notes and said like do you like me circle one, yes, no, maybe,
And it's like Rogers circle maybe maybe is a no
to me.
Speaker 6 (26:15):
So it's like, I don't think I think the Steelers are.
Speaker 7 (26:17):
Not starting the season with Mason Rudolph as their quarterback,
Like they're either gonna draft one or they're gonna land
Rogers somehow.
Speaker 6 (26:24):
It's a really big deal. But let me add a wrinkle.
Speaker 7 (26:26):
Because we're at the day before the draft, and the
thing that would just absolutely blow my hair back that
the Steelers would do that I would laugh, I'd fall
off my chair is if they drafted Jalen Milroe and
they said, we're gonna completely commit to this attitude in
this sort of Arthur Smith's style running game, and we're
going to bring in who some people have been saying
is the best running quarterback they've ever seen ever in
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the history of the position.
Speaker 5 (26:48):
Tell Us Sarah reported that, and never.
Speaker 7 (26:50):
Mind all this passing, we need the Jalen Milroe running tape.
And I think that the Steelers come in and say,
this is what we're gonna do.
Speaker 6 (26:57):
We like his upside, we like his ability.
Speaker 5 (26:58):
We're gonna build them a right off the bat.
Speaker 7 (27:00):
We're gonna unleash a quarterback who runs low four threes
and we're going to run the ball and play defense.
I don't know if they do it. I don't know
if it's too high for them. That's my new goal
for the Steelers. Just from the pure entertainment aspect of
watching them next year? Is that Milroe that's the one
that blows the roof off the place?
Speaker 6 (27:16):
And today take.
Speaker 5 (27:17):
Them, Kyle. I love that.
Speaker 10 (27:19):
Actually, there was another question in one of these questions
that we would pre get to the show and we're
going to talk about a trade that we wanted to see.
Speaker 9 (27:27):
This is the trade I want to say.
Speaker 10 (27:28):
I want to see Pittsburgh get back in the second
round and get Jaylen Milroe. I agree with everything you
said to me. He does have the opportunity to be
the best runner runner at the quarterback position that our
game has ever seen.
Speaker 5 (27:41):
He does have some issues.
Speaker 10 (27:43):
Throwing the football in terms of accuracy and things like that.
But if you talk about an offense that can handle
a running quarterback, I mean Author Smith's offense. They want
to move the line of scrimmage and run the football.
And when your quarterback can do things like that, that
makes it easier for him to play a lot faster
because when you can run the football like that, Now
(28:03):
that and knows this, that middle to feel safety.
Speaker 5 (28:06):
No longer is that fifteen yards. Now he's preeping around ten.
Speaker 10 (28:10):
Now he's creeping around nine yards because he understands we
are on eleven on eleven football right now, Guys, defensively,
we don't have an extra guy. We're not out eleven
in the office. And this guy, if he gets me
one on one, will put me on some highlights. So yeah,
this wild surprise me as well. I actually think the
Pittsburgh Pittburgh still is shipping thinking about this type of deal.
(28:33):
If Shader Sanders doesn't fall to them at twenty.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
One, listen, whether it's Jalen Milroe, shaudor Sanders, Aaron Rodgers, DK,
George Pickens, the only head coach they can handle? Did
I just list off a handful of personality scre you
in the NFL?
Speaker 4 (28:47):
Can you imagine it's Mike Tomlin? Okay, he can take
care of business. And if anyone's pushing each other around
on the playground.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
Because we got crushes with each other, just communicate, figure
it out, drap the guy that you wants, all right,
because it's about falling in love in the NFL with
your guy.
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Speaker 15 (29:26):
Obviously, the expectations that he's had, you know, throughout his
college career and then taking Colorado to new heights like.
Speaker 13 (29:33):
That, you know, that's not easy.
Speaker 16 (29:34):
The knock is a little bit of the arm strength,
and then you know, holding the ball took a lot
of sacks.
Speaker 15 (29:39):
With my experience of playing, Like if I can show
my guys you know that I can get hit and
then keep going, that just shows a lot about you know,
your leadership and just being able to learn to get
the ball out, play within the timing of the offense
and concepts. So I think those are things that he
has and will continue to learn.
Speaker 13 (29:54):
And develop, no doubt.
Speaker 14 (29:57):
Meanwhile, the college transfer portal has reshaped the landscape of
college football, but it's also affected how teams look at
aspects and the evaluation process for the draft. For a
deeper look at the portal, here's Mike Garrifolo.
Speaker 16 (30:13):
In twenty twenty one, the NCAA began allowing college football
players to transfer once without sitting out a year. But
the updated transfer portal represents more than a rule change.
It's a seismic shift reshaping how NFL talent is evaluating.
Speaker 17 (30:32):
I remember the first year of draft meanings used to
stop the meeting, go hold on, he transferred, tell me why?
And now it's almost like, what's wrong with this kid?
He hasn't transferred you.
Speaker 16 (30:49):
The transfer portal moves fast like college football's version of
free agency, and now it's forcing NFL teams to rethink
how they evaluate talent for the draft.
Speaker 18 (31:00):
I think the biggest change is the scouting process. You
used to have three and four years of time where
you're going into a school and it's the same scout
with the same player in the same environment, and you
see their growth.
Speaker 15 (31:15):
You definitely see a lot more teams on tape over
the years it's where did you go to school?
Speaker 5 (31:20):
Now it's like where did you finish?
Speaker 19 (31:21):
You're seeing players move around strategically to get themselves the
opportunity to play and showcase their skills and then sometimes
become the best version of themselves in a different cultured.
Speaker 5 (31:32):
Transfer from Wahsington State launches his Heisman.
Speaker 6 (31:35):
Trophy campaigns in the swamps.
Speaker 9 (31:37):
How camp Ward does it.
Speaker 16 (31:43):
NIL has supercharged the transfer portal.
Speaker 5 (31:46):
That's both worlds and laund package.
Speaker 16 (31:48):
Now athletes aren't just switching schools for bigger financial opportunity,
they're staying longer to maximize them.
Speaker 17 (31:56):
I do think NIL in general, you're starting to see
players stay.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
In school for longer because they're making money.
Speaker 8 (32:03):
You're getting made be a little bit more developed player
that comes.
Speaker 6 (32:06):
To this level what a front right pull knicks.
Speaker 9 (32:10):
Normally it was twenty twenty one, twenty two, twenty three.
Speaker 17 (32:13):
Now there are some guys twenty four, twenty five, maybe
even twenty six.
Speaker 9 (32:16):
When this guy hits his second contract to what's his
age going to be?
Speaker 14 (32:19):
From the evaluation portion, it's it's actually it's actually been
a really strong positive because you're able to see, like.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
How does he handle his money right? Does he give
him back to his community? Does he have twelve cars?
Speaker 6 (32:29):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (32:30):
Like now we kind of have the answers of the test.
Speaker 16 (32:31):
To certain extent, all of this player movement is forcing
organizations to adapt to what's now being called the portal effect.
The rapid changes aren't just shifting how coaches evaluate talent
it's also shaping how they feel about it.
Speaker 20 (32:49):
The vetting process gets more challenging because guys are moving around.
Speaker 9 (32:52):
We're evaluating the player, but.
Speaker 20 (32:54):
I also am interested to see, Okay, why are you moving?
The portal gives people a chance to run away from challenges.
Speaker 19 (33:01):
Hey, I don't like what you're saying to me. I'm
not playing, so I'm going to lead. Unfortunately, that becomes
I think a character trade as well.
Speaker 17 (33:07):
Inherently, what you used to do is knock that butter?
Speaker 13 (33:10):
What's wrong with him?
Speaker 17 (33:11):
And why did he leave? Now you have to accept
it as it's just a fact of life. There's opportunity,
there's financial gain. The landscape has changed so much.
Speaker 14 (33:24):
With a draft just a day away, NFL Networks top
draft analyst Daniel Jeremiah reveals his final mock draft of
the year. That's tonight at eight Eastern on NFL Network.
He's going to be joined by Charles Davis, Colleen Wolf
and a few special guests revealing picks you don't want
to miss it. Might you find Malachi Starts on that list?
(33:45):
Coming up next, we have the Georgia Star safety Malachi
Starts joining us live from Green Bay and we'll ask
him about preparing for his big day and a special
relationship with the Hall of Famer.
Speaker 21 (33:57):
Stay with us, Good Morning Football.
Speaker 18 (34:15):
Malachi Starks gonna be a big time name once we
get to Green Bay and the draft.
Speaker 5 (34:21):
Well, Nick, what's of Joel d Man?
Speaker 16 (34:24):
Be a second the old Malachi Starks.
Speaker 9 (34:29):
Oh, my goodness, Malachi stars with a brilliant interception.
Speaker 4 (34:33):
Wow, he's all American.
Speaker 3 (34:38):
He's an NCAA champion, and you're gonna hear his name
in Green Bay and the twenty twenty five NFL Draft begins.
Speaker 4 (34:44):
Malachi Starks, Welcome.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
On the show or Green Bay. In green in.
Speaker 4 (34:48):
Green Bay, the draft is in Green Bay.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
Don't mouth no, Jamie, because you know we've got a
lot of Jeygia Bulldogs on our tease.
Speaker 4 (34:54):
So did the Eagles.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
Okay, we got Malachi.
Speaker 4 (34:58):
Welcome on GMFP.
Speaker 13 (34:59):
Thank you, how y'all doing.
Speaker 4 (35:00):
We're great.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
Nice to meet you. It's been quite the process for you.
Your career at your was excellent, but now you're trying
to make a new name for yourself in the NFL.
Speaker 4 (35:08):
What's the last couple of months been like for you.
Speaker 13 (35:10):
It's been special.
Speaker 22 (35:11):
It's been uh, you know, traveling a lot, meet a
lot of different teams, a lot of different organizations. It's
been hectic, but it's been a big bust. And you know,
I know some guys who haven't had a lot of
metals and stuff. So I'm just trying to be grateful
and take it all out.
Speaker 3 (35:23):
Sure, now you are Georgia born and raised. You go
to Georgia is there? Are you excited to perhaps go
to not play for the Falcons, for example, go somewhere
else in the country to experience life a little bits
as a grown up if you will.
Speaker 13 (35:37):
Yeah, I think I've been.
Speaker 22 (35:39):
I've been ready to get away from home a little bit,
but honestly, I'm just ready to get back to football.
I packed up my house the other day and all
my boxes just sitting there. So I'm ready to know
where I'm shipping my clothes and my shoes and everything. Yeah,
well me and my fiance packed Yeah no, no, no,
So I'm just ready to figure out where I'm to
be sued that field.
Speaker 4 (36:01):
Yeah, congratulations. When are you gonna get married?
Speaker 13 (36:03):
Marstulian twenty twenty six.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
What's her name?
Speaker 13 (36:05):
Man?
Speaker 2 (36:06):
Yeah? How you doing, Savannah?
Speaker 4 (36:09):
That's beautiful, pride.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
And thank you, Jamis. That's a great question, because when
you play in Georgia for so long, you never know
who may select you. And the thing about me, I
thought I was talking off air. I thought Houston was
gonna draft me, and I get a call from the
Green Bay Packers and I was a little bit shocked.
(36:31):
The shocking thing is I was prepared because of my parents.
My mom raised five kids, by myself, Tevin, by you
and your parents' relationship, getting you ready for.
Speaker 22 (36:41):
This, yeah, mom, My parents have been very present through
this whole process. We have a very religious background, so
just you know, really hanging on that faith and you
know what they taught me and my sister growing up
as well. But also like my team, you know my
agents I got. I got a group of female agents
and there they're awesome. You know they they've been through
this a lot, and they've taught me. They they've told
me how it was going to go, what I need
(37:02):
to do.
Speaker 13 (37:03):
So they've been very supportive whole process.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
So you got the right agent, right, that's a fact.
Now when I got here, safety cover two at Florida
State was not covered two with the pack. Do you
consider yourself a box safety middle safety? How do you
see yourself moving for Kirby's defense aggressive. We like I said,
(37:25):
we got a lot of bullet You came here, it
was a safety and do you cover tight ends? What
do you consider yourself?
Speaker 22 (37:33):
I do pretty much of it all, if I'm being honest,
because at the University of Georgia, the package was a
little different. So like, we really did a lot of
different things, and I was able to be put in
the position to do different things.
Speaker 13 (37:44):
So just being able to do that, I think I've had.
Speaker 22 (37:47):
The ability to go cover tight ends, go cover slots,
play deep, third play, play half, play in the middle
of the field, play in the box, playoutside as well.
So just having that ability and having that process of
doing all of it, I think it's prepared me very well.
Speaker 3 (38:00):
Now you're sitting next to this Hall of Famer here,
you just seem like a kid who loves the game
of football. Who were you a fan of growing up?
Who were maybe some of your favorite players, what teams
that you cheer for? Because despite being a draft pick
by the Packers, this man admitted last segment that he
used to cry tears over the Dallas Cowboys and he.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
Was a child.
Speaker 3 (38:18):
So who were you a fan of as a child
before you hear your name called by one of the
thirty two this weekend.
Speaker 22 (38:23):
I was a big Pittsburg fan. Troy palmul is my favorite,
my favorite safety growing up. So I was a really
big Pittsburgh fan. So I kind of watched that whole
dynasty and.
Speaker 13 (38:33):
How it worked out.
Speaker 22 (38:35):
I was really big with Seattle as well, all the
all the guys that had came through there.
Speaker 13 (38:39):
Yeah, I'm a fan of really good ball.
Speaker 22 (38:40):
So really just you know whatever, I could find a
good team and good players.
Speaker 3 (38:43):
I watched what's some advice that you have heard from
Georgia players that have come back to check in on you?
Speaker 1 (38:49):
Guys?
Speaker 3 (38:49):
We know Kirby Smart runs a tight ship and a
tough program and a very loud practice from time to time.
Speaker 4 (38:55):
But when guys come back the.
Speaker 3 (38:56):
Na Kobe Deans of the world, they tell you, hey,
this is what life is like in the NFL.
Speaker 4 (39:00):
What makes you think you're ready for it? What have
you heard about it?
Speaker 7 (39:03):
Yeah?
Speaker 22 (39:03):
I think when a lot of guys come back, they
kind of piggyback off of what kind of goes to
the University of Georgia.
Speaker 13 (39:09):
Just how it's ran.
Speaker 22 (39:10):
It's ran like a pro type university, so they do
a really good job of preparing us for the next level.
And uh, you know, they treat you like a pro
the first day you step in there. So it just
kind of when you're there, you have no choice but
to learn how to be a pro. So just taking
out and running with it and just having the advice
of gods hard in the league, just you know, coming
back and giving tips and telling them, telling me to
be myself and you know, handle it like a business
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and stay true to myself.
Speaker 13 (39:33):
I think those are the biggest things.
Speaker 22 (39:34):
And like I said, the University Georgia did a great
job of sharing us for the next level.
Speaker 2 (39:38):
Yeah, because I was always told safeties not necessary. Height
and weight and speed because you're a lot taller than
probably people know, right, you know, six almost six two
and that kind of range. Teams that throw the football
the most will be the ones that going to select
you because that's what they're gonna be in a shootout.
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They need a guy with range size in that wing span.
And if it's one particular team, because I'm telling you
I thought it was gonna be huge, is it one
team that you you know, I got a few more
calls from I feel a chemistry that you think you
can really marry, or that you feel they may select you.
Speaker 22 (40:22):
No, not really, it's kind of been it's kind of
been even killed, it's been even cool from everybody.
Speaker 13 (40:28):
But you know, I've had I've got a lot of
relationships with everybody.
Speaker 22 (40:31):
I've met with every team through the thirties and through
visits and Combine as well.
Speaker 13 (40:35):
So, uh, I'm just excited to see where where I'm
gonna liad.
Speaker 3 (40:38):
You seem and and I say this with love and
as a compliment, you seem like such a grown up already. Right,
you're getting scarried. Next year, you're coming out, You're going
to be a pro. What are you most looking forward
to in this next phase of your life beyond I
get to take snaps as.
Speaker 4 (40:52):
A safety in the NFL. What you know? You just
seem like you have a lot to look forward to.
Speaker 22 (40:56):
Yeah, I think just the experience. You know, I haven't
really traveled a lot. Growing up, I didn't travel a lot.
So just like the experience with my family going to
games and going out and see a different things, trying
different foods, just like the little things in life, you know,
stuff that I haven't got to experience that I'm really
excited for.
Speaker 3 (41:14):
Well, the list of teams in the NFL that do
the international games is growing, so maybe you're going to
get drafted to a team that plays in like Dublin
or Madrid or something, and then you're like Malachi Starks,
international NFL player.
Speaker 4 (41:25):
All right, so nice to get to know you.
Speaker 3 (41:27):
Stay healthy, Thanks for coming on, GMFP, Thank you so much,
and be a very supportive wedding planning fiance.
Speaker 9 (41:32):
Okay, you got that.
Speaker 4 (41:33):
Okay, at anything she needs, we got you, all right, VALKI. Yes,
here also to your defensive coordinator, say that too.
Speaker 3 (41:43):
An entire hour with the Hall of Famer and Leroy
Butler at lambeau Field ahead of the twenty twenty five
NFL Draft and LROI, I hate to tell you you
have the signed up for more GMFP. You such an
awesome hour with you and you guys. A sweet moment
just now with Malachi Starks, the Georgia prospect that's going
to come out. Leroy brings him a signed autograph jersey
and Malachi could not have been more grateful. They hug,
(42:05):
they shake hands, his first ever autographed jersey. He's like,
I'm gonna hang this in whatever apartment that I get
that once I'm drafted.
Speaker 4 (42:12):
He was genuinely so pleased with that. It was a
sweet moment.
Speaker 2 (42:16):
You got to read the room.
Speaker 4 (42:17):
Oh he loved it.
Speaker 3 (42:18):
It was so awesome day, Leroy Bomer, thanks for coming
on all right GMFB ahead of the NFL Draft with
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Yeah, that's right, GMFB Live coming to you from Green Bay.
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Speaker 4 (00:31):
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Speaker 3 (00:32):
It was already a football town, but now greatness is
on the clock tomorrow before the first round of the
NFL Draft, Round two on Friday, and the subsequent rounds
on Saturday.
Speaker 4 (00:43):
You can catch all the.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Coverage right here and across ESPN as well, but most importantly,
it's GMFB and it's happening right now. Tom Pellisero and Rob,
Kyle Brandt and Kyle Brant. I just want you to
do the proper introduction the way that you know how,
the fanboy style of LAROI yeah, just go ahead, Kyle
Cook because he can hear you well.
Speaker 5 (01:01):
I can cook because I grew up a Bears fan.
Speaker 6 (01:03):
Leroy.
Speaker 7 (01:04):
I know if you go on to lambeau Field between
the years nineteen ninety and two thousand and one, don't
throw it anywhere close to thirty six because he's gonna
get it, he's gonna return it, and he's gonna jump
in the stands. We see all these celebrations now, parent
trap handshakes and dances. This guy is the godfather of
the celebrations in the modern era, the Lambeau Leap, the game,
(01:24):
the Hall of Fame. Larroy Butler has always had it
going on. It's a privilege to have you on man.
Great to see him.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Thank you so much, CHL. I really appreciate that I've
been a Bears fan. I apologize.
Speaker 7 (01:34):
Oh yeah, the Bears are the reason you're in the
Hall of Fame, LaRoy.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
All right, So you also have a relationship with a
dad of a prospect in the NFL Draft, and we're
gonna get to this this hour. This guy played for
years and friends for years at Dion Sanders, which inherently
you know that he knows the family.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
Tom Pelisera, you came out with an article.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Last night on NFL dot com assessing all eighteen quarterback prospects,
or not all, but eighteen of the quarterback prospects. Who
did you speak to around the league? How did you
garner all of these opinions? And where is the headline
leading us?
Speaker 8 (02:08):
Manual exercise coaches, scouts, gms, other executives try to get
to the real answers, because if you guys listen to
press conferences. Every guy is a first round pick. Everybody's
a great player. This is just trying to get both
positive and negative the strengths and the weaknesses of all
the different quarterbacks. Certainly there was a heavy focus on
Shador Sanders and trying to peel back all the different
(02:29):
layers up it. You certainly have some positive opinions about
Chador as a player in terms of what he put
on tape in college. Is the Big Twelve Conference Player
of the year, He was the second team All American.
If you sack up his wow throws, as one executive
told me, he's probably got the best collection of those
over the whole entire crop. This other stuff, it's the
ability to stuff from structure in the pocket, checkdowns, the
(02:49):
easy gimmes. But if you want to isolate the high level,
high degree of difficulties, then to me, there's a difference
between him and the other guys.
Speaker 9 (02:56):
He certainly saw that with Chadur.
Speaker 8 (02:58):
The questions are going to become, is Chadur the player
about all right? He's not the biggest guy, he doesn't
have the biggest arm, he doesn't have the elite athletic
profile that his father once did. So how is he
going to adjust his play style? Is he going to
be able to play a little bit differently?
Speaker 5 (03:10):
Then?
Speaker 8 (03:11):
Obviously there's other questions because this is a player who
comes from a different background than anybody else. This is
one of one. There are not many guys that grow
up with the greatest athlete of all time as their father,
much less their coach, all the way through youth football
to high school to college. There's a lot of things
that people are trying to figure out about. How is
he going to survive and thrive in an NFL type
of a locker room. You remember walking in once upon
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a time to an NFL lockerroom, It's just a different
type of an environment. To the extent that he had interviews,
some of them did not go well at all. And
this is one quote that I'm sure is going to
be played all over the internet. But it's the worst
formal interview I've ever been in, entitled takes unnecessary sacks,
never plays on time, horrible body language, playings teammates. That
obviously is the most negative comment.
Speaker 9 (03:52):
That was in the story.
Speaker 8 (03:53):
You can read all twenty two hundred words and about
twelve thousand words on all the quarterbacks, but certainly that
was a feeling that was not unanimous or excuse me,
not unique to one person. That's something I heard from
a variety of different people. Now, it doesn't mean that
everybody feels that way. It sounds like an interviewed with Pittsburgh,
for instance, went really, well, you know Dion, you've known
him for a long time.
Speaker 9 (04:13):
You've watched a lot of Shador.
Speaker 8 (04:15):
What do you make of Shador the person, the prospect
as he had for the NFL run.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
The thing about the NFL quarterback is that's the one
position you want to try to get right. The thing
about Shador ever since you can just tell the pedigree.
But he's built for this. And I'll be very honest
with you. I remember seeing Aaron Rodgers who was supposed
to go number one overall and went twenty four, and
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he's just sitting there and sitting there. I've seen other
guys that go number one overall and they turned out
to be bussed. In my opinion, the loner he stays
on the board, the better it is for him. You
go to better teams. If you go to them teams
in the top eight, nine, ten, you're gonna lose a lot.
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So I think for the most part, he's built for whatever,
and I think he's ready because he's gonna make a
difference wherever you go.
Speaker 7 (05:10):
Well, I mean this is a LaRoy, a guy who
was hanging around to the forty eighth pick. He knows
all about this. But you also Leroy, listen, elephant in
the room. You go way back with Dion. You guys
are both Florida State defensive backs in the same era.
Speaker 6 (05:21):
You have known him, I imagine since the eighties.
Speaker 7 (05:24):
What do you make of this factor that maybe a
team like shador as an athlete in a vacuum, but
doesn't want Dion hovering, doesn't want the extra immedia prestige
and all that that comes with drafting as Sanders.
Speaker 5 (05:37):
What do you make of that?
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Kyle? I'm confused because first I've heard that if you
didn't grow up with your father, you would be a criminal,
because that happens. So now you grew up with your
father and you get bad press the same thing. Who
I think is to go Lebron James LEBRONI the thing
about Dion, he's a fantastic father. But yes, his kids
want to be like their father, and they're gonna pay
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their own weight, but nobody said it was going to
be easy. The criticism doesn't really bother most people. What
bothers them is that you're unfairly comparing them to somebody else.
Because at one point I thought it's gonna be the
number one pick over Cam, but now Cam has emerged
for whatever reason. People have it, but we know how
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the NFL is. Kyle. All you need is the opportunity
once you get that opportunity. But he needs to do
like Jordan loved did. Go somewhere on a great team
and you can sit for a couple of years and
just take over. You don't have to start from scratch,
because you could be I'm sorry, Kyle, you could be
like Caleb and gets sacked two thousand times. That doesn't happen.
Speaker 9 (06:53):
To conduct an hour long roast here on.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
I Love Kyle.
Speaker 6 (07:01):
Cast start was a win in that building.
Speaker 5 (07:03):
You can look it up.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Oh no, yes, right about that.
Speaker 5 (07:08):
You're right, you're right about that.
Speaker 10 (07:09):
But right you said something important. You said something important.
You talked about pedigree, and I don't think that gets
talked about him enough. People try to compare Shador to
his pops, Deon Sanders and things and think that the
athletes you know, supposed to be the same, and they're
knocking him because the athlete isn't the same. But you
mentioned that word pedigree, and I tell people all the time.
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You know Archie Manning, you know he was a you know,
good athlete, but his sons wasn't the better the best athletes, right,
But he knew what to teach him.
Speaker 5 (07:39):
He knew the answers.
Speaker 10 (07:40):
To the test to make them successful in the National
Football League.
Speaker 5 (07:43):
And that's how I look at Prime and shaduor Sanders.
Speaker 10 (07:46):
Yes, shud Do's not gonna go out there and run
a four three or four to two or anything like that.
He's not going to throw the ball one hundred yards.
But what he does understand how to do is how
to operate with a subpar offensive line. He does know
how to operate when there's chaos going on around him.
And if you're going to go in the first round,
especially with a lot of these guys they want to
go on at the top of the first round. Just
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like you said, Leroy, there's gonna be chaos on those teams,
so you better get a guy that understands how to
deal with it. And it's truly a force Multiplier talked
about it earlier in the show. Tom Brady would have
probably still win the sixth round right this year. I mean,
he's not a guy who's gonna run a hope, run
real fast, or throw the ball one hundred yards. It
wasn't until hindsight when you look back and you call
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him the greatest winner ever. I look at your door
Sanders in that wave and not calling.
Speaker 5 (08:34):
Him Tom Brady. By looking at him in that mode,
I like that.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
I think for the most part, real quick set me
one point for some completion. That's pretty good.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
I want a guy keep the ball out of harm's way,
who can run a pro style offense. And if you
want to run the ride and decide and check at
the line, he's your guy.
Speaker 9 (08:56):
But can he do this LeRoi? That's the question.
Speaker 8 (08:58):
Is he gonna be able to move around again and
extend plays and be backing up and throwing off his
back foot and complete these passes. If you were to
play DV against him, I imagine you're looking at your
chops watching it.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Well, I think the thing about it is the arm
figures and he throws wide receiver friendly balls back shoulder
to the hip. Where do you want it outside in
those kind of traits he should talk about more because
he was the best in college football at that. If
it's a fade route, he asks Travis, where do you
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want it, and he puts it on that spot. If
the quarterback does that, you don't need to have a
strong arm to do that. You just can have the
mentality to take that from the classroom to the field.
And that's what I like about it. Look where you
see all these passes, they're exactly where. That's what the
receiver wants it away from us, because if you throw
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it to us, he's gonna get hurt. Throw it down
low like that, the kind of throws that I like
that only his receiver can get it. He's the only
quarterback that can do that. To me, that's very valuable.
Speaker 10 (10:03):
Yeah, I think, and I know we talked about Chicago
in this conversation as well, But when you look at
Caleb Williams a year ago, Tommy pe to your point,
a lot of the running around that happened in college.
He was having guys wide opening the flat, but he'd
run around to show the arm talent. I don't always
see that in Shador. Chador had to run around because
the offensive line stuck in front of him. I know
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he wouldn't say that, but that was the reality of it,
so he had to move around. If he has a
better offensive line, the kid gets the ball out on time.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
I like Shador well.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
If I know is that if I were on the
board of trustees at Colorado, I'd be very thrilled of
it this year's NFL draft, because all you're seeing is
that branding that helmet this stadium. And it's not just
because of Shador Leroy, it's because of the other player.
And you mentioned him, the guy that's telling him exactly
where he needs that back shoulder fad or where he
needs that ball in Travis Hunter. Our second down is
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talking about the two way player, the sensation that as
we know it is Travis Hunter, and the advocacy that
he has done on his behalf to play both sides
in the NFL.
Speaker 4 (11:06):
Can he do it?
Speaker 3 (11:08):
Do you think he should? And to what level? Can
he participate on both units in the NFL?
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Realistically? No? But Roy Greene, all the way back, long
time ago you're in our part, he played it. They
have packages for athletes like this. There were ten or
fifteen plays that's all you need but for you to
be in a meeting and get the entire package the
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other offenses meeting as well, so that you don't go
back and forth. But what they do in the NFL,
if you can help me win games, they have a
package for you. Now, for the most part, you want
him to understand that wherever you draft him, they don't
draft athletes in the NFL. You either a corner or
wide receiver. But yes, they will have a handful of
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plays maybe more to pull him to be on offense
and put him in that slot because normally in the
slot is the third corner on all the teams. He
can beat those guys one on one. You would not
be very smart not to use him. But if he
can do it, they'll try it out at OTA's and
all that. But for meeting purposes in a meeting, it's
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physically impossible the time.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
It takes that.
Speaker 7 (12:23):
Leroy just set aside for a second what they'll do
with him when they draft. And we haven't got to
talk to you about Travis Hunter. What do you make
of a guy who is the best receiver in this
draft and the best corner and it's playing over one
hundred snaps at a very high level of college football
as a former defensive back.
Speaker 6 (12:38):
Do you marvel at this?
Speaker 9 (12:39):
What are your thoughts?
Speaker 2 (12:40):
He's not human. I want to see his birth certificate.
I want to see his parents. I want of some
of his blood, because the guy's truly amazed. I've never
seen him drink water, and he reminds me of somebody
Deon Standers. Deon did everything, punt returns, wide receiver, cornerback.
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I mean, if you want him to play guard, he
do it. This is a player that if you're a
team like Jacksonville and you want to go up to
get him, and you put in with Brian Thomas Junior
my fantasy team by the way, oh, that would be
an amazing tandem moving forward for coach Cohen. He's going
to make a difference for somebody. If you go on
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that top five. The teams are not very good, but
he can make it so much easier for the other
guys in the room.
Speaker 4 (13:28):
What's your fantasy team name?
Speaker 2 (13:29):
Well at leap thirty six?
Speaker 6 (13:31):
Yeah, no, naturally too, guys.
Speaker 5 (13:39):
Check it out guys for me. I see Travis. He's
a defensive back.
Speaker 10 (13:43):
I see Travis as an elite defensive back who has
high he's also a high end.
Speaker 5 (13:47):
Wide receiver as well.
Speaker 10 (13:48):
Until Arroy's point, a meeting time, which meeting room is
he going to go into if he's going to play
both sides of the football practice, And you know, I
didn't play both sides of the football, but I did
do a lot on offense, and practice was almost hell
from me. So I can only imagine going through practice
having to, you know, do all the intricate details of defense,
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playing on the outside, being able to play in the
slot on defense, being able to know all the adjustments,
and being able to go on the offensive side, because
see guys, on offense, it's all about adjusting, it's all
about you know, precise timing and all of those types
of things. So offensive coaches are gonna want their top
wide receiver in meeting rooms and in practice all the time.
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And I just don't know if it's physically possible for
Travis to play both sides.
Speaker 5 (14:37):
Of the ball full time.
Speaker 10 (14:38):
But to to everybody's point, if he can get ten
to fifteen, possibly twenty plays depending on your opponent of
wide receiver play and get some real yards off of
those plays, I think I think he'll be fine in
this rookie.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
Year, all thirty two are going to try to make
themselves better and it starts on Thursday night right here
in Green Bay, first round, right outside of lambeau Field.
As our third down, we're gonna have a Cowboys conversation.
Speaker 4 (15:02):
The Cowboys hold the number twelve pick right now.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
The last time the Cowboys had the twelve spot, they
picked out of Penn State Micah.
Speaker 4 (15:09):
Parsons back in twenty twenty one.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
They're COO and co owner Stephen Jodes says the team
doesn't have to make a trade though this year to
land an impact player.
Speaker 11 (15:19):
You know, at the end of the day, those things
work themselves out. I mean, we never went into that draft,
Micah's draft, thinking we were going to pick Micah in
a pass rusher slash linebacker. The year we picked CD,
we were thinking we were going pass rusher all the
way and we end up with a receiver. And you know,
great things happen when you do things like that.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
All right, So let's do an exercise for our third down.
We're going to finish the sentence and m Rob, I'll
t you up first. It would impress me if the
Cowboys did blank at this year's NFL Draft.
Speaker 10 (15:51):
Oh wait, man, that's a tough one right there. I'm
gonna say this. I'm going to say if they draft
an offensive lineman, preferably maybe the kid out of ohiose
date Josh Simmons that tackle, possibly Men Bow out of Missouri.
But this team, the Dallas Cowboys, they were really good
when they had a strong offensive line and just taking
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the big power guys up front and so that you
can run the football and get it back later on
in his draft and the play action pass comes alive
for Dak Prescott.
Speaker 5 (16:22):
So yeah, I like them taking a tackle.
Speaker 6 (16:24):
Okay, I'll finish the sentence.
Speaker 7 (16:26):
The Cowboys in the first round would impress me if
they did anything.
Speaker 6 (16:29):
Can we get some sort of dynamic move by the
Dallas Cowboys?
Speaker 5 (16:33):
Are they?
Speaker 7 (16:34):
What is going on right now? Because I've seen them better,
I've seen them worse. I have never seen the Dallas
Cowboys this boring.
Speaker 6 (16:42):
They're not interesting.
Speaker 7 (16:43):
They're by far the fourth most interesting team in the
NFC East, when all those other teams have a million
things going on, uninspired coaching, higher, totally tedious, boring storyline
about Michaeh Parsons and not paying them. Because we've seen
it a thousand times with this team. If you just
sit at twelve and say, well, take the defensive tackle
who was sitting there, I mean, make a move, move up,
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go get some many dynamic, move into the top ten,
move into the top eight, make a bleeping splash. I
can't believe I have to tell the Cowboys this. They're
mister Splash over there, owning the team, and yet it's
just it's just a flatline right now. It feels like
there's no reason to be really genuinely excited about the
twenty twenty five Cowboys. But they can change all that
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to make the draft or night. You have the spark,
and I can't believe I have to tell them that.
Speaker 8 (17:28):
To that end, I would say the Cowboys in first
round would impress me if they do what Jerry Jones
yesterday claimed out of nowhere they're going to do, which
is he said they've got two different big trades in
the works, which is not anything gray anyone ever telegraphs.
It sounds like a thing that you say to make
people think, hey, we're really working on something, there are
they actually was this just Jerry getting the headline because
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he all coverages good coverage to him or are they
really working on something here? They've got some needs. They
need another wide receiver, they need help in the secondary.
They could probably use another pass rusher. No, they signed
Donte FOLLERBB. They'd probably use another pass rusher opposite Michael Parsons.
Speaker 9 (18:06):
Here, what are these in the trade? Are these real trades?
Speaker 8 (18:09):
Are you treating your lunch Jerry at the cafeteria table
just you know, getting cheetos for trdos?
Speaker 9 (18:14):
This real thing. I'd be impressed with you if they
actually pull up the trade.
Speaker 4 (18:17):
What do you think fill in the blank? You're a
final answer here.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
I'll be impressed if they do the Herschel Walker deal
all over again. Risk it all, get the number one
running back, risk it all, get them whatever they want.
Go up and get the number one running back with
the generational player that can put you over the top.
That what really impressed me. And then how feel right?
Can go eat your potato Saturday? Yeah, that's it.
Speaker 9 (18:42):
You know they're on the other end of the Walker deal.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
That worked out well, I know, but this is new time.
We got to eat all. Risk it all? Could you
let the running back that you should have had? Derrick
Henry wanted to come and you you fumbled it, no
pun intended, get it back, risk it all and go.
Speaker 4 (19:01):
Get ging said risk it all? Could you stay the
whole hour?
Speaker 2 (19:04):
Yes, Yes, he's in.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
Yes, the Hall of Famer is saying, I can imagine
that a prospect that we have coming on this hour.
And Malachi Sarks is going to be thrilled to sit
here with Leroy Butler a little bit, get to know
him a little bit better. The Georgia's secondary product is
going to join the rest of the dogs in the NFL. Kyle,
He's coming on in Green Bay.
Speaker 6 (19:25):
Hell yes, And Laroy's not going anywhere.
Speaker 7 (19:27):
If you're in Lambeau, you try to run down a
packer's legend.
Speaker 5 (19:30):
He's hanging out with us.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
Give me a foot, Get up, LaRoy.
Speaker 5 (19:32):
Oh that wall was higher back then.
Speaker 6 (19:34):
I swear that's the Godfather we're.
Speaker 5 (19:36):
Going to talk about all.
Speaker 6 (19:37):
This is going to tell stories from the nineties.
Speaker 7 (19:39):
You can't beat a good morning football and Draft week.
Speaker 9 (19:51):
Good morning football.
Speaker 12 (19:55):
Aaron Rodgers and DeVante Adams, nasty like Chryslave and Derek Carr.
He just sat here and I did like he didn't
and just do the most random future whoever gonna be
the quarterback for DK, Metcalf and George Pickens.
Speaker 13 (20:14):
I love that. That's a hell of a hell.
Speaker 12 (20:16):
Of the league neighbors. Who's gonna be Darius Flinton?
Speaker 5 (20:20):
I don't know who's good quarterback gonna be too?
Speaker 2 (20:23):
Yeah, you never know.
Speaker 13 (20:23):
They got a lot of quarterbacks over there. They might
have they might have another one.
Speaker 5 (20:27):
He never knows.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
We're just gonna keep adding quarterbacks to the list and topics.
The Shadoor Sanders conversation Laurie Butler on GMFB All Hour
right now ahead of the NFL Draft, which starts tomorrow
here in Green Bay.
Speaker 4 (20:39):
Laura, you know Shador Sanders, you know the family, you know.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
His dad's super Well, what do you make of the
fact that Shar's going around ranking his favorite quarterback wide
receiver combos, but also teasing a little bit that it
sounds like his meeting with the Steelers went great and
he specifically loves DK and George and Pittsburgh.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
I just love history, I love football guys who love football,
and I like that he picks people that other people
would never think. You know, I want to hear other
thought like that, because I mean, the goat to me
is Roger Staubacher, Drew Pearson. I mean, I was a
Cowboy fan growing up. I used to cry, don't tell
nobody when they lost games. So when he threw the
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ball at eighty eight, it was amazing to me. But
I love the fact that you know that age group
now moving forward, likes guys that they still can compete with. Sure,
back in the day, you always picked somebody who retired
a long time ago, the Gohots, yep, but somebody that
you can play with. And you know what, I think
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his meeting with Pittsburgh should go well, yeah, because he
would be a great fit there.
Speaker 4 (21:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
Remember I said earlier, the longer you wait, huh, the
better opportunity is for you.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
You know, we actually didn't get your I just want
to get a quick thought from La ROI. We talked
about Shador, but we didn't get your analysis of the
fact that Tom Pellasero has this quote about Shdor out there.
What is your if you were a player and you
know Shador, Well, what do you think he's feeling that
these things are still being said about him as the
clock is taken closer to the draft.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
It doesn't bother him because ever since he was little,
he've heard stuff because Deondrer dad and he is an
amazing mother. So you always heard that you with a
power couple, and you're a child and stuff like that.
So that don't bother him. It really doesn't. And I
think for the most part, what doesn't really get to
him is if you would have saw a bunch of
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positive stuff, they say, oh, they're just that's a bunch
of smoke. It's not really true. I like when you
have an honest opinion, and I don't want to be
around a bunch of yes people tell me what you
think about me. But at the end of the day,
it ain't up to them, it's up to him. He
just need a program where I have just started one. Yes,
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you don't need one team, yep. One team to say
I must have that young man and to continue to
develop him. That could be nine with the Saints, could
be Pittsburgh, or it could be a team to say,
you know what, I need a guy because I want
to do like the Packers. Yes, had an MVP quarterback,
but you know what we did. We went and got
Jordan Love, so we're not terrible in the future. That's
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why we got Jorde Love. In twenty twenty at Aaron
Rodger at MVP. Go get him some weapons. No, go
to the cunts. It's the guy and shout out to
all the up that was a big move in this stake. Yes,
people went crazy, but at the end of the day,
Mart Murphy, thank you, because you have to get a
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quarterback before you need one, So why not get a
guy that can complete over seventy percent of his passes
One of my best friends in the world, Steve Young.
Those don't type of numbers. But what I like is
ball placement on the hip, on the outside, over the shoulder,
keep the ball out of harm's way. And I think
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the right coaching staff can help him with that. Keep
it low. If your guy doesn't get it, it's out
of battles in the dirt. I love that and some
of that stuff you can't really but he's had that
from his parents in day one and Rob.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
You know what I love hanging out with Hall of
famers that they say things like my best friend Steve
Young is just like called casual sentence, Samraw, what do
you got on this topic?
Speaker 5 (24:15):
You gotta love it, man, players, man, you gotta know
what you know.
Speaker 10 (24:18):
I love that, Jamie. But to LeRoy's point, just listening
to Shadua throughout this throughout this process and hearing that quote,
I mean he understands marketing.
Speaker 5 (24:28):
Guys.
Speaker 10 (24:28):
He mentioned the two teams that need quarterbacks that are
in this draft, that are going to potentially that could
potentially draft him. He mentioned elite neighbors in New York.
He mentioned George Pickens, DK Metcalf and the Steelers. Duh, Like,
of course, yeah, I'm gonna say those names too because
I want him to pick me and Laury. I know,
you remember when Prime was going through his free agency
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back in the day, back in the early nineties, Prime
understood marketing. He would say things out in the public
to get teams to react.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
They know this, and you know Prime.
Speaker 5 (25:01):
Is his father.
Speaker 10 (25:02):
So at the end of the day, I understand exactly
where should do what's coming from. He's going to say
things to put the thought not only in teams' minds
that they should pick him, but in our minds because
we're the media, we and you know, we affect public opinion.
Speaker 5 (25:16):
So I get all of it.
Speaker 10 (25:18):
And to your point, Larroy's over seventy percent completion is
one thing I want my quarterback to do is put
the ball where I wanted to be put and put
it in an advantageous.
Speaker 5 (25:27):
Position for me to go do work.
Speaker 10 (25:29):
Shadure Sanders does all of that to me, He's the
force multiplier in this draft.
Speaker 7 (25:34):
Yeah, Mike, I think you're on something listening to in talk.
It's Chaudeur has a crush on the Steelers, and I
get it.
Speaker 6 (25:41):
I totally understand why he'd want to land there. The
fascinating thing still is.
Speaker 7 (25:45):
Is this Rogers steal because the Steelers had or have
a crush on Rogers. So he comes out and he
tells McAfee like, yeah, I don't know, like that's a
huge deal because Rogers thing is always I'm not gonna
leave anybody waiting. I'm going to clear things up, Like
you don't want to have teams going into the draft
not knowing if they're getting you. So it's like the
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Steelers Jamie used to give We used to give those
notes and said like do you like me circle one, yes, no, maybe,
And it's like Rogers circle maybe maybe is a no
to me.
Speaker 6 (26:15):
So it's like, I don't think I think the Steelers are.
Speaker 7 (26:17):
Not starting the season with Mason Rudolph as their quarterback,
Like they're either gonna draft one or they're gonna land
Rogers somehow.
Speaker 6 (26:24):
It's a really big deal. But let me add a wrinkle.
Speaker 7 (26:26):
Because we're at the day before the draft, and the
thing that would just absolutely blow my hair back that
the Steelers would do that I would laugh, I'd fall
off my chair is if they drafted Jalen Milroe and
they said, we're gonna completely commit to this attitude in
this sort of Arthur Smith's style running game, and we're
going to bring in who some people have been saying
is the best running quarterback they've ever seen ever in
(26:47):
the history of the position.
Speaker 5 (26:48):
Tell Us Sarah reported that, and never.
Speaker 7 (26:50):
Mind all this passing, we need the Jalen Milroe running tape.
And I think that the Steelers come in and say,
this is what we're gonna do.
Speaker 6 (26:57):
We like his upside, we like his ability.
Speaker 5 (26:58):
We're gonna build them a right off the bat.
Speaker 7 (27:00):
We're gonna unleash a quarterback who runs low four threes
and we're going to run the ball and play defense.
I don't know if they do it. I don't know
if it's too high for them. That's my new goal
for the Steelers. Just from the pure entertainment aspect of
watching them next year? Is that Milroe that's the one
that blows the roof off the place?
Speaker 6 (27:16):
And today take.
Speaker 5 (27:17):
Them, Kyle. I love that.
Speaker 10 (27:19):
Actually, there was another question in one of these questions
that we would pre get to the show and we're
going to talk about a trade that we wanted to see.
Speaker 9 (27:27):
This is the trade I want to say.
Speaker 10 (27:28):
I want to see Pittsburgh get back in the second
round and get Jaylen Milroe. I agree with everything you
said to me. He does have the opportunity to be
the best runner runner at the quarterback position that our
game has ever seen.
Speaker 5 (27:41):
He does have some issues.
Speaker 10 (27:43):
Throwing the football in terms of accuracy and things like that.
But if you talk about an offense that can handle
a running quarterback, I mean Author Smith's offense. They want
to move the line of scrimmage and run the football.
And when your quarterback can do things like that, that
makes it easier for him to play a lot faster
because when you can run the football like that, Now
(28:03):
that and knows this, that middle to feel safety.
Speaker 5 (28:06):
No longer is that fifteen yards. Now he's preeping around ten.
Speaker 10 (28:10):
Now he's creeping around nine yards because he understands we
are on eleven on eleven football right now, Guys, defensively,
we don't have an extra guy. We're not out eleven
in the office. And this guy, if he gets me
one on one, will put me on some highlights. So yeah,
this wild surprise me as well. I actually think the
Pittsburgh Pittburgh still is shipping thinking about this type of deal.
(28:33):
If Shader Sanders doesn't fall to them at twenty.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
One, listen, whether it's Jalen Milroe, shaudor Sanders, Aaron Rodgers, DK,
George Pickens, the only head coach they can handle? Did
I just list off a handful of personality scre you
in the NFL?
Speaker 4 (28:47):
Can you imagine it's Mike Tomlin? Okay, he can take
care of business. And if anyone's pushing each other around
on the playground.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
Because we got crushes with each other, just communicate, figure
it out, drap the guy that you wants, all right,
because it's about falling in love in the NFL with
your guy.
Speaker 14 (29:01):
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Speaker 15 (29:26):
Obviously, the expectations that he's had, you know, throughout his
college career and then taking Colorado to new heights like.
Speaker 13 (29:33):
That, you know, that's not easy.
Speaker 16 (29:34):
The knock is a little bit of the arm strength,
and then you know, holding the ball took a lot
of sacks.
Speaker 15 (29:39):
With my experience of playing, Like if I can show
my guys you know that I can get hit and
then keep going, that just shows a lot about you know,
your leadership and just being able to learn to get
the ball out, play within the timing of the offense
and concepts. So I think those are things that he
has and will continue to learn.
Speaker 13 (29:54):
And develop, no doubt.
Speaker 14 (29:57):
Meanwhile, the college transfer portal has reshaped the landscape of
college football, but it's also affected how teams look at
aspects and the evaluation process for the draft. For a
deeper look at the portal, here's Mike Garrifolo.
Speaker 16 (30:13):
In twenty twenty one, the NCAA began allowing college football
players to transfer once without sitting out a year. But
the updated transfer portal represents more than a rule change.
It's a seismic shift reshaping how NFL talent is evaluating.
Speaker 17 (30:32):
I remember the first year of draft meanings used to
stop the meeting, go hold on, he transferred, tell me why?
And now it's almost like, what's wrong with this kid?
He hasn't transferred you.
Speaker 16 (30:49):
The transfer portal moves fast like college football's version of
free agency, and now it's forcing NFL teams to rethink
how they evaluate talent for the draft.
Speaker 18 (31:00):
I think the biggest change is the scouting process. You
used to have three and four years of time where
you're going into a school and it's the same scout
with the same player in the same environment, and you
see their growth.
Speaker 15 (31:15):
You definitely see a lot more teams on tape over
the years it's where did you go to school?
Speaker 5 (31:20):
Now it's like where did you finish?
Speaker 19 (31:21):
You're seeing players move around strategically to get themselves the
opportunity to play and showcase their skills and then sometimes
become the best version of themselves in a different cultured.
Speaker 5 (31:32):
Transfer from Wahsington State launches his Heisman.
Speaker 6 (31:35):
Trophy campaigns in the swamps.
Speaker 9 (31:37):
How camp Ward does it.
Speaker 16 (31:43):
NIL has supercharged the transfer portal.
Speaker 5 (31:46):
That's both worlds and laund package.
Speaker 16 (31:48):
Now athletes aren't just switching schools for bigger financial opportunity,
they're staying longer to maximize them.
Speaker 17 (31:56):
I do think NIL in general, you're starting to see
players stay.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
In school for longer because they're making money.
Speaker 8 (32:03):
You're getting made be a little bit more developed player
that comes.
Speaker 6 (32:06):
To this level what a front right pull knicks.
Speaker 9 (32:10):
Normally it was twenty twenty one, twenty two, twenty three.
Speaker 17 (32:13):
Now there are some guys twenty four, twenty five, maybe
even twenty six.
Speaker 9 (32:16):
When this guy hits his second contract to what's his
age going to be?
Speaker 14 (32:19):
From the evaluation portion, it's it's actually it's actually been
a really strong positive because you're able to see, like.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
How does he handle his money right? Does he give
him back to his community? Does he have twelve cars?
Speaker 6 (32:29):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (32:30):
Like now we kind of have the answers of the test.
Speaker 16 (32:31):
To certain extent, all of this player movement is forcing
organizations to adapt to what's now being called the portal effect.
The rapid changes aren't just shifting how coaches evaluate talent
it's also shaping how they feel about it.
Speaker 20 (32:49):
The vetting process gets more challenging because guys are moving around.
Speaker 9 (32:52):
We're evaluating the player, but.
Speaker 20 (32:54):
I also am interested to see, Okay, why are you moving?
The portal gives people a chance to run away from challenges.
Speaker 19 (33:01):
Hey, I don't like what you're saying to me. I'm
not playing, so I'm going to lead. Unfortunately, that becomes
I think a character trade as well.
Speaker 17 (33:07):
Inherently, what you used to do is knock that butter?
Speaker 13 (33:10):
What's wrong with him?
Speaker 17 (33:11):
And why did he leave? Now you have to accept
it as it's just a fact of life. There's opportunity,
there's financial gain. The landscape has changed so much.
Speaker 14 (33:24):
With a draft just a day away, NFL Networks top
draft analyst Daniel Jeremiah reveals his final mock draft of
the year. That's tonight at eight Eastern on NFL Network.
He's going to be joined by Charles Davis, Colleen Wolf
and a few special guests revealing picks you don't want
to miss it. Might you find Malachi Starts on that list?
(33:45):
Coming up next, we have the Georgia Star safety Malachi
Starts joining us live from Green Bay and we'll ask
him about preparing for his big day and a special
relationship with the Hall of Famer.
Speaker 21 (33:57):
Stay with us, Good Morning Football.
Speaker 18 (34:15):
Malachi Starks gonna be a big time name once we
get to Green Bay and the draft.
Speaker 5 (34:21):
Well, Nick, what's of Joel d Man?
Speaker 16 (34:24):
Be a second the old Malachi Starks.
Speaker 9 (34:29):
Oh, my goodness, Malachi stars with a brilliant interception.
Speaker 4 (34:33):
Wow, he's all American.
Speaker 3 (34:38):
He's an NCAA champion, and you're gonna hear his name
in Green Bay and the twenty twenty five NFL Draft begins.
Speaker 4 (34:44):
Malachi Starks, Welcome.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
On the show or Green Bay. In green in.
Speaker 4 (34:48):
Green Bay, the draft is in Green Bay.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
Don't mouth no, Jamie, because you know we've got a
lot of Jeygia Bulldogs on our tease.
Speaker 4 (34:54):
So did the Eagles.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
Okay, we got Malachi.
Speaker 4 (34:58):
Welcome on GMFP.
Speaker 13 (34:59):
Thank you, how y'all doing.
Speaker 4 (35:00):
We're great.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
Nice to meet you. It's been quite the process for you.
Your career at your was excellent, but now you're trying
to make a new name for yourself in the NFL.
Speaker 4 (35:08):
What's the last couple of months been like for you.
Speaker 13 (35:10):
It's been special.
Speaker 22 (35:11):
It's been uh, you know, traveling a lot, meet a
lot of different teams, a lot of different organizations. It's
been hectic, but it's been a big bust. And you know,
I know some guys who haven't had a lot of
metals and stuff. So I'm just trying to be grateful
and take it all out.
Speaker 3 (35:23):
Sure, now you are Georgia born and raised. You go
to Georgia is there? Are you excited to perhaps go
to not play for the Falcons, for example, go somewhere
else in the country to experience life a little bits
as a grown up if you will.
Speaker 13 (35:37):
Yeah, I think I've been.
Speaker 22 (35:39):
I've been ready to get away from home a little bit,
but honestly, I'm just ready to get back to football.
I packed up my house the other day and all
my boxes just sitting there. So I'm ready to know
where I'm shipping my clothes and my shoes and everything. Yeah,
well me and my fiance packed Yeah no, no, no,
So I'm just ready to figure out where I'm to
be sued that field.
Speaker 4 (36:01):
Yeah, congratulations. When are you gonna get married?
Speaker 13 (36:03):
Marstulian twenty twenty six.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
What's her name?
Speaker 13 (36:05):
Man?
Speaker 2 (36:06):
Yeah? How you doing, Savannah?
Speaker 4 (36:09):
That's beautiful, pride.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
And thank you, Jamis. That's a great question, because when
you play in Georgia for so long, you never know
who may select you. And the thing about me, I
thought I was talking off air. I thought Houston was
gonna draft me, and I get a call from the
Green Bay Packers and I was a little bit shocked.
(36:31):
The shocking thing is I was prepared because of my parents.
My mom raised five kids, by myself, Tevin, by you
and your parents' relationship, getting you ready for.
Speaker 22 (36:41):
This, yeah, mom, My parents have been very present through
this whole process. We have a very religious background, so
just you know, really hanging on that faith and you
know what they taught me and my sister growing up
as well. But also like my team, you know my
agents I got. I got a group of female agents
and there they're awesome. You know they they've been through
this a lot, and they've taught me. They they've told
me how it was going to go, what I need
(37:02):
to do.
Speaker 13 (37:03):
So they've been very supportive whole process.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
So you got the right agent, right, that's a fact.
Now when I got here, safety cover two at Florida
State was not covered two with the pack. Do you
consider yourself a box safety middle safety? How do you
see yourself moving for Kirby's defense aggressive. We like I said,
(37:25):
we got a lot of bullet You came here, it
was a safety and do you cover tight ends? What
do you consider yourself?
Speaker 22 (37:33):
I do pretty much of it all, if I'm being honest,
because at the University of Georgia, the package was a
little different. So like, we really did a lot of
different things, and I was able to be put in
the position to do different things.
Speaker 13 (37:44):
So just being able to do that, I think I've had.
Speaker 22 (37:47):
The ability to go cover tight ends, go cover slots,
play deep, third play, play half, play in the middle
of the field, play in the box, playoutside as well.
So just having that ability and having that process of
doing all of it, I think it's prepared me very well.
Speaker 3 (38:00):
Now you're sitting next to this Hall of Famer here,
you just seem like a kid who loves the game
of football. Who were you a fan of growing up?
Who were maybe some of your favorite players, what teams
that you cheer for? Because despite being a draft pick
by the Packers, this man admitted last segment that he
used to cry tears over the Dallas Cowboys and he.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
Was a child.
Speaker 3 (38:18):
So who were you a fan of as a child
before you hear your name called by one of the
thirty two this weekend.
Speaker 22 (38:23):
I was a big Pittsburg fan. Troy palmul is my favorite,
my favorite safety growing up. So I was a really
big Pittsburgh fan. So I kind of watched that whole
dynasty and.
Speaker 13 (38:33):
How it worked out.
Speaker 22 (38:35):
I was really big with Seattle as well, all the
all the guys that had came through there.
Speaker 13 (38:39):
Yeah, I'm a fan of really good ball.
Speaker 22 (38:40):
So really just you know whatever, I could find a
good team and good players.
Speaker 3 (38:43):
I watched what's some advice that you have heard from
Georgia players that have come back to check in on you?
Speaker 1 (38:49):
Guys?
Speaker 3 (38:49):
We know Kirby Smart runs a tight ship and a
tough program and a very loud practice from time to time.
Speaker 4 (38:55):
But when guys come back the.
Speaker 3 (38:56):
Na Kobe Deans of the world, they tell you, hey,
this is what life is like in the NFL.
Speaker 4 (39:00):
What makes you think you're ready for it? What have
you heard about it?
Speaker 7 (39:03):
Yeah?
Speaker 22 (39:03):
I think when a lot of guys come back, they
kind of piggyback off of what kind of goes to
the University of Georgia.
Speaker 13 (39:09):
Just how it's ran.
Speaker 22 (39:10):
It's ran like a pro type university, so they do
a really good job of preparing us for the next level.
And uh, you know, they treat you like a pro
the first day you step in there. So it just
kind of when you're there, you have no choice but
to learn how to be a pro. So just taking
out and running with it and just having the advice
of gods hard in the league, just you know, coming
back and giving tips and telling them, telling me to
be myself and you know, handle it like a business
(39:31):
and stay true to myself.
Speaker 13 (39:33):
I think those are the biggest things.
Speaker 22 (39:34):
And like I said, the University Georgia did a great
job of sharing us for the next level.
Speaker 2 (39:38):
Yeah, because I was always told safeties not necessary. Height
and weight and speed because you're a lot taller than
probably people know, right, you know, six almost six two
and that kind of range. Teams that throw the football
the most will be the ones that going to select
you because that's what they're gonna be in a shootout.
(39:59):
They need a guy with range size in that wing span.
And if it's one particular team, because I'm telling you
I thought it was gonna be huge, is it one
team that you you know, I got a few more
calls from I feel a chemistry that you think you
can really marry, or that you feel they may select you.
Speaker 22 (40:22):
No, not really, it's kind of been it's kind of
been even killed, it's been even cool from everybody.
Speaker 13 (40:28):
But you know, I've had I've got a lot of
relationships with everybody.
Speaker 22 (40:31):
I've met with every team through the thirties and through
visits and Combine as well.
Speaker 13 (40:35):
So, uh, I'm just excited to see where where I'm
gonna liad.
Speaker 3 (40:38):
You seem and and I say this with love and
as a compliment, you seem like such a grown up already. Right,
you're getting scarried. Next year, you're coming out, You're going
to be a pro. What are you most looking forward
to in this next phase of your life beyond I
get to take snaps as.
Speaker 4 (40:52):
A safety in the NFL. What you know? You just
seem like you have a lot to look forward to.
Speaker 22 (40:56):
Yeah, I think just the experience. You know, I haven't
really traveled a lot. Growing up, I didn't travel a lot.
So just like the experience with my family going to
games and going out and see a different things, trying
different foods, just like the little things in life, you know,
stuff that I haven't got to experience that I'm really
excited for.
Speaker 3 (41:14):
Well, the list of teams in the NFL that do
the international games is growing, so maybe you're going to
get drafted to a team that plays in like Dublin
or Madrid or something, and then you're like Malachi Starks,
international NFL player.
Speaker 4 (41:25):
All right, so nice to get to know you.
Speaker 3 (41:27):
Stay healthy, Thanks for coming on, GMFP, Thank you so much,
and be a very supportive wedding planning fiance.
Speaker 9 (41:32):
Okay, you got that.
Speaker 4 (41:33):
Okay, at anything she needs, we got you, all right, VALKI. Yes,
here also to your defensive coordinator, say that too.
Speaker 3 (41:43):
An entire hour with the Hall of Famer and Leroy
Butler at lambeau Field ahead of the twenty twenty five
NFL Draft and LROI, I hate to tell you you
have the signed up for more GMFP. You such an
awesome hour with you and you guys. A sweet moment
just now with Malachi Starks, the Georgia prospect that's going
to come out. Leroy brings him a signed autograph jersey
and Malachi could not have been more grateful. They hug,
(42:05):
they shake hands, his first ever autographed jersey. He's like,
I'm gonna hang this in whatever apartment that I get
that once I'm drafted.
Speaker 4 (42:12):
He was genuinely so pleased with that. It was a
sweet moment.
Speaker 2 (42:16):
You got to read the room.
Speaker 4 (42:17):
Oh he loved it.
Speaker 3 (42:18):
It was so awesome day, Leroy Bomer, thanks for coming
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