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May 14, 2025 • 42 mins

Hour Two of the Good Morning Football Podcast asks which teams deserve the opening week prime time slots? Hosts Jamie Erdahl, Marcel Reece, Mitch Morse, and Lawrence Guy debate Saquon Barkley or Patrick Mahomes having the bigger prime time performance.  NFL safety Jordan Poyer drops by and talks about the extreme measures he's taken to play in a game.  Plus, a look back at Division RIval matchups from 2024 and how this season will compare!

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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Good Morning Football is the production of the NFL in
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Speaker 2 (00:10):
Hey everybody, it's Wednesday, May fourteenth. This is GMF. I'm
Jamie heard all.

Speaker 3 (00:14):
You already know this, but if you didn't know, these
guys at the table, buckle up for a great hour
of television. We've got a former fullback in Marcel.

Speaker 2 (00:20):
Reese, raiders expert, and you're also.

Speaker 3 (00:22):
Just educating us on the position that is having a
resurgence in the NFL.

Speaker 2 (00:26):
A thirteen year NFL veteran and.

Speaker 3 (00:28):
A Super Bowl champion defensive tackle Lawrence Sky at the table,
plus Mitch Morse. You're still hanging around. I love that
for us. You've got great stories.

Speaker 2 (00:36):
This is day three.

Speaker 3 (00:37):
Our jokes and our sarcasm are only getting worse and worse.

Speaker 2 (00:40):
How are we feeling?

Speaker 4 (00:41):
Uh?

Speaker 5 (00:41):
Yeah, No, the prose thing was a little bit of
a push, so we're going to keep it.

Speaker 2 (00:44):
He actually said the we'd prostate last hour. It happened GMFF.
We're rolling.

Speaker 3 (00:48):
We got a guest this hour that we got to
look forward to.

Speaker 2 (00:50):
Plump. I'm holding shop sheets. We have highlights from games
from last season. I'm stressing out. Let's go roll the
open good football.

Speaker 3 (01:12):
Don't be so far away. Come back, come back and
listen to GMFB. We have games to talk about. We
have a schedule release event that is happening tonight eight
pm Eastern on NFL Network. You will find out the
entire slate of games. That being said, we have had
some teasers, some appetizers if you will, of the games.
We know that there are seven international games happening. We're

(01:33):
still going to find out the Friday night of Week
one and the rest of the Week one slate.

Speaker 2 (01:37):
Also, there are certain teams, certain.

Speaker 3 (01:39):
Games, certain matchups that get that extra special treatment each week.

Speaker 2 (01:42):
And those are your primetime games.

Speaker 3 (01:43):
So we are going to play a little game called
Primetime Showdown. We are going to pit pairs of teams
against one another, and then we shall debate ourselves in
a friendly manner, because we don't yell at streaming each
other on this show that sweet primetime spotlight and who
deserves it more in that circumstance, So we start with
our first two teams. Who is more deserving of more

(02:05):
primetime games? I'm talking quantity over quality at this point.
The Dallas Cowboys or the Washington Commanders. Marcel Reese, you
go first.

Speaker 4 (02:14):
Commanders, without a doubt, Without a doubt, they're a better
football team. They had a better season and they need
to be. They should be rewarded for that.

Speaker 6 (02:23):
Okay, Lawrence, I agree with you again, Grill Washington. Cowboys
kind of time Washington. The Cowboys are on primetime TV,
and they have done so much in the last season,
how far they went with a rookie quarterback. I think
they should deserved it. They earned it, and they see
what they're going to do this year.

Speaker 2 (02:39):
Where'd you grow up, Lawrence?

Speaker 6 (02:40):
Vegas?

Speaker 3 (02:40):
You grew up in Las Vegas and you you said
your dad is a Cowboys fan, and he quote unquote
made you watch the Cowboys growing up a hundred percent.

Speaker 6 (02:48):
And every time I played the Cowboys, I called them like,
I know you want me to lose, but it might
be different. Or I'm like, hey, that's your favorite quarterback.
I'm gonna try to hit them as hard as I can.

Speaker 2 (02:57):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 3 (02:58):
And how did that go with your relationship with your dad?

Speaker 6 (03:00):
Great? What do you say, big word? I don't love them.
I love the team that you were on. I'm like, okay,
but House, You're like, oh, it's different.

Speaker 2 (03:11):
I said, it's different. All right, so you're going Commanders
as well, Mitch.

Speaker 5 (03:16):
Well, I don't think there's gonna be much of a
debate oh this first round, because I'm sure the analytics
people or Cowboys or America's team, but the Commanders deserve it.
I mean, go off of last year, go off of
Jaden Daniels electric offense, the defense led by Bobby Wagner
you had talked about earlier. It's just a no.

Speaker 7 (03:35):
Brainer for me.

Speaker 3 (03:36):
You guys ever been driving down the road and people
are like, oh, you're explaining to your kids, like why
is there traffic? And you're like, it's the Gawker effect, right,
Like the Cowboys are America's team.

Speaker 2 (03:45):
They are the Gawker effect. Okay, they have a new head.

Speaker 3 (03:48):
Coach, they have a quarterback they have seemingly invested in.
They did not make the playoffs last season, and when
they do make the playoffs, they always trip and stumble.
Early in January, without a doubt, the Cowboys will have
more primetime games than the Commanders this year. Because the
three of you are approaching this with sound logic and
lack of emotion.

Speaker 2 (04:03):
You're like, are better.

Speaker 3 (04:05):
Therefore, the Cowboys will get more primetime games. Because people
want to see this thing unfold. If it goes great
with George Pickens.

Speaker 2 (04:13):
Great.

Speaker 3 (04:14):
If it doesn't, that's great TV. I mean it's it's inevitable,
it's happening. Okay, you can't all say the same answer, right,
We gotta gotta represent No, we can't.

Speaker 2 (04:24):
Universe Primetime Showdown.

Speaker 3 (04:28):
Next matchup Bengals versus the Broncos. Who deserves more primetime
games When it comes to these two logos, Marcel Listen.

Speaker 4 (04:38):
I will never pick the Broncos. It just won't happen, sure, right,
But in all seriousness, the Bengals. The Bengals are going
to be musty TV. They need to get this situation
with Trey Hendrickson, figure it out and get their star
defensive end back in the locker room and on the field.
But this offense is going to put up numbers. They're
letting up scoreboards. They have their two wide receivers back

(05:00):
with with Chase and Higgins, and.

Speaker 7 (05:03):
Joe Burrow is that guy.

Speaker 4 (05:05):
So they're gonna be fun to watch.

Speaker 6 (05:07):
I feel like with the Grant on everything at this point,
I'm right there with you again. The seven close losses
that they had last year, it makes it worth watch TV,
So why wouldn't you put that team over the Broncos. Again,
I'm not a big Broncos fan. I was part of
the Omaha game and I'm like, what does Omaha really
mean if it on one, two, three to the change.

(05:28):
So that's one of those things is the Bengals deserve it.
They're a fun game to watch. It's consistently something that
you want to tune on, tune into. And for the
betters out there who doesn't want to sit there and
bet on that game.

Speaker 2 (05:40):
That's a good point.

Speaker 5 (05:42):
I want to contradict you, guys, I do, but I won't,
so then I just don't. Joe Burrow and this offense
are fun to watch this NFL. You want fun matchups,
you want fun games. And if they can catch a
little bit of that spark they had going into the
back half that season, We're not a single team I

(06:03):
wanted to play. That group is going to be electrifying
to watch on the TV.

Speaker 2 (06:08):
Guys, let me doing.

Speaker 3 (06:09):
You're making me now have to pick the other options
for a time in a row.

Speaker 2 (06:13):
So all right, fine.

Speaker 3 (06:14):
The Denver Broncos have a Super Bowl champion head coach
in which the team had to trade for and pay
in order to retain his services. In the Gawker effect category,
we're going is there going to be a sophomore slump
with their quarterback? We have to figure out what bo
Nicks is about. And you have the reigning defensive player
of the year in Passer Tan and a Broncos defense
that could be awesome again. I think the Broncos should

(06:35):
have more primetime games because Cincinnati Bengals, especially the way
they've not been shot out of a cannon in the
last couple of seasons. Usually this of their septembers are infuriating.
We can't figure them out. And if they don't have
Trede Henderson out or if it's uncomfortable, this is not
a Bengals team that is going to, as the TV
executives would say.

Speaker 2 (06:52):
Deliver in primetime.

Speaker 3 (06:54):
I think Sean Payton has meant for the primetime In fact,
didn't he do.

Speaker 2 (06:57):
Something crazy last year?

Speaker 3 (06:58):
I believe it to be for the first time ever
where he opted into playing a short week for a
second time in a season. In when the prime video
folks pulled him up and said, Hey, any chance we
could flex your game into Thursday night? He said absolutely.
The more prime time the better. If the head coach
is doing that, then I think the Denver Broncos are
going to deserve more prime time matchups.

Speaker 4 (07:17):
What it's all, you're all saying lines, although some of
them are pulled from last year.

Speaker 7 (07:26):
I've been there a year already.

Speaker 3 (07:28):
Come on, Okay, this one, I please, for the law
of God, have different answers, because this is a really
challenging one. More primetime matchups. Bills through Ravens.

Speaker 4 (07:38):
Marcel I struggled with this one. Yeah, and it's gonna be.

Speaker 7 (07:41):
It's gonna be.

Speaker 4 (07:42):
It's going to be a cop out answer, and I
think it's a draw.

Speaker 2 (07:45):
No, no, not allowed, no judge and jury. You have
to pick one.

Speaker 4 (07:50):
Okay, I'm going Ravens. But I'm going Ravens because they
are that good, Like they're that good, and they're going
to be great, and we know they're going to be
great all the way through the regular season and the
only thing that they have to prove is that they
can get to the super Bowl and win a super Bowl.

Speaker 7 (08:09):
They're going to be.

Speaker 4 (08:10):
Fantastic all regular season as long as they stay healthy.
So I have to go with the Ravens.

Speaker 6 (08:16):
I agree, I'm a little biased. Right. I play for
the Ravens, so it is what it is. I played
against the Bill for so long, But when we come
down to it, I love Washington zach Or with a
teammate of mind. He's a great defensive coordinator. I feel
like that Ravens team is going to start keep taking
up to the next level. We saw what they did
when they had Cary there. We saw what Lamar was

(08:37):
able to do. They're going to continue to see. They're
improving on their defense. Calvan Noise over there doing amazing
work coming off of a great season. I just see
them on prime time. I want to watch them play
every single game.

Speaker 5 (08:52):
I would actually agree with you with your neutral answer
because it is hard to pick. But I'm going to
go with the Hommer situation. Let me watch the raigning
NFL MVP do stuff that most quarterbacks can't do. That
being said on the flip side, the.

Speaker 2 (09:13):
Exactly same thing.

Speaker 5 (09:14):
I'm I mean, just think about when these two teams
played last year twice. I mean in the regular season,
the Ravens took it. In the postseason, I mean must
see football which could have gone either way or the
web catch right, like we all our hearts are broken
from Mark Andrews. He's an amazing football player, but you
just watch plays like this when flicking in the snow. Yeah,

(09:35):
Lawrence hates playing in the snow up there, can I
tell you the truth. We do too. It's cool, but
it's a party every time the Buffalo Bills play, and
I think when what they did to get their defense
situated up a little bit in this offseason is going
to make for a much more complete team when they
can hopefully make that push and get over the hump
and hopefully make a Super Bowl.

Speaker 3 (09:54):
I like that you said complete team because that is
kind of what people insult the Bills with, which is
just like your Josh Allen.

Speaker 2 (10:00):
And what else are you?

Speaker 3 (10:01):
So the fact that the defense is you're a complete team.
Therefore you're gonna compete with everybody and challenge everybody.

Speaker 2 (10:07):
But I would probably go with the Ravens.

Speaker 3 (10:08):
In this one. The Lamar factor is ozom. The Derek
Henry piece of this like how did we not say
his name this entire time? And the Zach Orr storyline
was awesome last season. I believe he was the youngest
coordinator at the time, perhaps still is as a as
a defensive coordinator for the Ravens. But now they have
Malachi Starks on that defense, and they're moving Kyle Hamilton

(10:29):
all around, and they're going to have a new kicker
like I like the Ravens part of this in prime time?

Speaker 2 (10:33):
All right, our last matchup. This is not teams.

Speaker 3 (10:36):
We're going individual players, I know, and no ties, no
equal I can't believe you tried to do that on
the show. The audacity of Marcel Rees. All Right, Sakon
Barkley or Patrick Mahomes who will have bigger primetime performances
Saquon Barkley twenty six or fifteen Mahomes.

Speaker 4 (10:54):
I'm gonna say, Sakon Barkley. Listen, I'm a running back, right,
you go to Sekon Barkley. But from a football perspective,
I don't think Patrick Mahomes is going to have to
put on his for man Kate as often. Sakwon Barkley
is the identity of that Philadelphia Eagles team. And if
you don't believe that, he's the reason why they won
the Super Bowl, and not that it's not a team game,

(11:17):
but he's a tone setter and everyone needs a tone setter.

Speaker 2 (11:20):
He takes pressure off of.

Speaker 4 (11:22):
Everyone in that locker room, by the way that he
approaches his business and plays the game, and every time
he touches the ball, you hold your breath because you
think something special is going to happen. Even if it's
a one yard game. He ran someone over to get
that one yard. So I'm gonna go with Sequon Barkley.
And it's not into that mental Patrick Mahomes. I just
don't think he's gonna have to be Superman as much.

Speaker 6 (11:43):
Well what I look at, I can't disagree with you.
I'm picking Mahomes, But when it comes to Barklay, we
know what he's able to do. He with that team
in New York. He called me that team in Philly.
But I'm going with Mahome because this might be the
last dance for them. They might be enough that Super
Bowl run. It's very difficult the kid team to go
back to super Bowl to super Bowl to Super I've

(12:05):
been to two Super Bowls in a row. It's hard
to do that. And I feel like this might be
kelsey last year. And if it is, they're going to
come out here and put on a show and they're
going to do everything they can, and especially on prime time,
you got to come back and say, can we go
it to the four time.

Speaker 5 (12:22):
Both of you guys have tremendous points on Saquon Barkley's
playmaking ability, Superman powers. When he was holding that rock, dude,
he was making those amazing plays. I was there when
he did the reverse hurdle. I couldn't believe what I
was singing in person. And then you think that's got
to be the highlight of this year. Game after game

(12:42):
and the biggest moments. What do they do? They feed
him the rock and he makes these explosive plays. I mean,
the third player, the second play of that commander's games
takes off on a tremendous run. That being said, Patrick
Mahomes has showed time and time again and when his
number is called excluding I mean, listen to Super Bowl.
This past Super Bowl was just an anominally on all fronts.

(13:03):
In my opinion, you have to prove to me that
he can't do it in the biggest moments because he
has time and time again.

Speaker 4 (13:11):
Wait all that about Saikwon. You're going with Patrick mahone.

Speaker 5 (13:13):
That's right, that's right, that's.

Speaker 3 (13:16):
Right, all right, I'm going to add lib one. So
everybody has to come up with this answer on the fly. Okay,
there's two coaches in the NFL that are returning to
being a head coach, and at times when their teams
were elite in the Tennessee Titans and the Seattle Seahawks,
they were going to handle a lot of primetime games.
But now Mike Rabel and Pete Carroll are back wearing headsets,
but for two different franchises in the New England Patriots and.

Speaker 2 (13:39):
The Las Vegas Raiders.

Speaker 3 (13:40):
They both play with the divisions, for example, the Chiefs
and the Bills, where if that other team is getting
primetime treatment, maybe they get slid into a primetime matchup.
Which head coaching return to the sideline? Are you more
looking forward to in primetime? Is it Mike Rabel or
Pete Carroll? Pete Carroll obvious really for you? Yes, I'm
a Raider.

Speaker 4 (13:58):
I also played for Pete in Seattle for two years.
I think the storyline is fantastic pizza, great leader, he
energized the locker room. They have the perfect team for him,
and he's one of those coaches that has a certain
demographic of player that feeds off of him, and I
think that locker room is perfect for him. It's the
perfect time for him. I think Pete Carroll and Las

(14:20):
Vegas Raiders.

Speaker 6 (14:21):
I'm gonna go with Mike being a former Patriot and
I understand and they've been in a slump for the
last couple of years. Now this is the time to
show a new revamped Patriot. What are they going to
do out there? Are they going to get over the
hump or are they going to succeed or continue that path
they've been going through. It's exciting and I love the
coach played against them in training camp. He's a great player.

(14:43):
He has that energy. You see him bringing the team
together and when you're together and you move together, you
could have success.

Speaker 5 (14:50):
It hurts my heart.

Speaker 3 (14:51):
It's so perfect because these two played for these organizations.
Yet you played for the two teams that were supposed
to hate those organizations.

Speaker 7 (14:58):
You did this.

Speaker 2 (14:58):
I split sl slip the atom here for us.

Speaker 5 (15:03):
Mike Rabel what And it's really not even close for me.
Pete Carroll is an amazing personality, exuberant. I would love
to play for him. If you've ever played Mike Rabel's teams,
you know you better buckle up that shin strap because
they're coming to smack you in the mouth. I think
they can make a serious push in the division. I
still think the Bills are gonna probably get that first place,

(15:26):
but I mean, just if the Patriots get that number
two in that AFC West or make it that push
not surprising at all. My favorite thing to see about
Mike Rabel is how hands on he is in these practices.
You watch these pregame warm ups. He wants to get
physical with the guys. You can tell he's got that
stuff to him. That holy ghost comes out and he
wants it. I just think Mike Rabel is the Quinnes

(15:50):
Central Patriot, huh. From a guy outside looking in, He's
going to exemplify everything that they've stood for, but also
kind of bring in a new twist that might be
a new breath of fresh air in that organization.

Speaker 3 (16:02):
Well done, everybody, twenty twenty five season. We will find
out what it looks like in.

Speaker 2 (16:07):
A few short hours.

Speaker 3 (16:09):
Highly anticipated NFL schedule release is happening tonight APM Eastern.
Every game revealed, every rivalry rematch, rookie debut, you name it.
It's happening tonight APM on NFL Network. At all the
details at NFL dot com, Slash schedulease still to.

Speaker 2 (16:24):
Come on our show though.

Speaker 3 (16:25):
Jordan Poyer coming on the show, a forward teammate of
Mitch Morris. The veteran safety has some intel about the
beard at the table and he can't wait to tell
the national audience and secrets about midfores that we have
not yet revealed or he has revealed himself. Plus, we
got to ask him about the Toush push being banned,
his opinion on that. Plus tonight, when we find out

(16:47):
where and when division rivals are playing each other, we
are going to fall in love and buy our tickets.

Speaker 2 (16:52):
But first we must.

Speaker 3 (16:53):
Look back at some of the best division rival games
from the twenty twenty four season.

Speaker 2 (16:57):
This is where those highlights coming to play. Guys.

Speaker 3 (16:59):
If it's a shotsheet Wednesday on GMFB, Hello, We'll be
right back.

Speaker 5 (17:13):
Good mon.

Speaker 3 (17:14):
Football production staff says that I'm supposed to be assigned
for introducing our next guest, but after saying hello to
him in the commercial break, it just doesn't feel appropriate. So,
Mitch Morris, could you please introduce the next person that
we are going to interview because you seem to know
this man better than the rest of us.

Speaker 5 (17:29):
Well, I do, so, I mean twelve year NFL VET. Huh,
unbelievable human All Pro pro bowler will take your soul
in the whole of you if you let him, but
also is all about helping others and he always has been.
Please welcome to the show, Jordan Ford.

Speaker 1 (17:50):
That thank you guys for having me on here. Mitch,
you look great, Row, So happy for you.

Speaker 7 (17:55):
Row. This is awesome. Thanks for having me on, guys.
I'm ready to rock.

Speaker 3 (17:57):
You know how good a friends people are and when
they look at each other and they're just like bro
and they don't say any no one else what those
who actually want to talk about.

Speaker 2 (18:09):
We're awesome to see you. You're currently a free agent.

Speaker 3 (18:12):
You were with the Dolphins last year? Are you still
looking to play another year on that resume?

Speaker 1 (18:18):
I love the game, you know, you know whatever, I'm
in a place right now where you know, I played
twelve years. I'm extremely thankful and blessed to have played
the game for such a long time. And you know,
last year was extremely tough here on so many levels.
You know, our our team was very good. You know,
I didn't play as well as I wanted to play.
You know, we just you know, it's just a really

(18:39):
tough year, obviously, transitioning from Buffalo to Miami, cultures being different,
systems being different. You know, it just didn't work out
the way that anybody had hopes. But at the same time,
you know, I'm thankful for it all. Thankful for you know,
all the moments, all the friendships, and you know what,
I like to play again, absolutely whatever that looks like,
you know, be be dope and be ideal, to have

(19:00):
a fantasy ending and be able to retire a bill.
But you know, who knows, you know, I'm just I'm
just being an open book right now. I really enjoying
life for what it is. You know, I'm finally able
to have some time and spend you know, most of
these times these days with my daughter riding bikes, fishing,
and you know, most of.

Speaker 7 (19:16):
These times i'd be in Ota. So I'm really just
taking it all in for what it is.

Speaker 1 (19:20):
You know, I'm not rushing anything that rushing into any decision,
but extremely thankful for you know, all the all the
moments throughout my career. Extremely thankful for you know, the
Bills organization, Philadelphia organization, Cleveland, Miami, but you know.

Speaker 7 (19:34):
In particular Buffalo, you know that's my home.

Speaker 1 (19:36):
My heart is always going to be there, and you know,
I'm always thankful for all the moments that I had there,
all the teammates, all the cool people like Mitche that
I met out there, and uh, you know it's I'm
just playing it by year right now.

Speaker 7 (19:47):
But what I love to play absolutely well.

Speaker 5 (19:50):
I mean the first two minutes to show if you
if you haven't figured out that weird teammates for quite
some time, one of the most prolific presences in the
locker room and on the field. What people don't realize
about Jordan is how much he sacrificed for the team.
And he hear sacrifice throwing around. But the truth is
to see this guy come in after games the way
he played, throwing his body around really with disregard for

(20:12):
his health, and he would come in banged up on
my own. How Jordan's gonna play this, We're all talking
about my own. But he would every week And there
was one week in one instance where he had to
drive halfway across a country and a bus. So I
believe playing Kansas City because he was not cleared to fly.
Can you give us at this table and the country

(20:33):
kind of a recap what that was.

Speaker 7 (20:35):
I mean, such a cool story in my storybook, You're right.

Speaker 1 (20:39):
I mean I had a two weeks prior to that game,
I caught to pick against Baltimore end up fracturing a
couple of ribs.

Speaker 7 (20:45):
Puncturing. Uh, I think it was a lung and so.

Speaker 1 (20:49):
I couldn't fly, which was crazy because you know they
I guess Deshaun Watson had a similar injury a couple
of years ago, and so he had to drive from
Texas to Florida to play in the game. And so
that was the suggestion of, hey, you can't fly, you know,
let's let's drive you out there. So I sat with
it for a little while. Well you know, me, bro,
I love playing the game. Like if I can, if
I can breathe, I can go out there and play.
So you know that's how my that was my mindset,

(21:11):
and you know, I thought of what a cool way
to I really wanted to play in this game. First
of all, you know, I wanted to get back against
the Chiefs, and it was in Kansas City, and you know,
I went home, spoke with my wife and she was like, well,
it looks like we're taking a road trip to Kansas City.

Speaker 7 (21:23):
So we got an r V.

Speaker 1 (21:25):
It took us two and a half days to get
up there. We stopped in Indianapolis on a Friday night
and met up with the team Saturday. I stayed with
the team Saturday night before the game, played the game Sunday,
and my RV was in the tunnel next to the
buses after the game, and I just hopped in the
hopped in the r V and hopped back home. But
I mean it was just, you know, I look back
and you know, at the moment, it was kind of crazy,
like what are we doing? But I look back and

(21:46):
it was, you know, it was for guys like you, Bro. Like,
to be honest, I would have never done that in
Miami last year. If if that was the case, I
would never done that. But for guys like you wrote,
for guys like the guys that I was playing for, Bro,
that's that was. You know, you guys were my guys, Bro,
And I really want to be out there on the
field with you guys, and uh, you know that's what
made a special though, right Like, and I enjoyed playing
for guys like you, Mitch. I enjoyed playing for Sean,

(22:07):
I enjoyed playing for my boy Micah for Terran, for
all those boys and stuff that we built out there
is really cool and it's really cool and excited to
see what's continued to build over there.

Speaker 7 (22:15):
And Sean's been doing an amazing job with that team.

Speaker 5 (22:18):
Well, my favorite thing was seeing you on the like
the Wednesday when you had had that drive back and
talking about how great twenty four hour bus ride is
for inflammation. So I don't know what you're dealing with,
what was going on? You were inflamed?

Speaker 2 (22:32):
Who drove the R and V?

Speaker 7 (22:34):
Yeah, it was it was a driver. We had a driver.
I can't even remember his name.

Speaker 1 (22:37):
I wish I remember his name because he deserves he
deserves his recognition because he he mobed.

Speaker 7 (22:43):
He mobbed, and uh, you know, it was it was
pretty cool.

Speaker 1 (22:46):
It was really cool, you know, experience to look back
and you know, it'll be in my book one day
obviously when I sit down and able to write that.
And uh, you know, I appreciate you asking that because
it did bring back some cool memories.

Speaker 6 (22:57):
Well that's awesome right there. I got a question for you, though,
With the corner market so strong, do you feel like
the safety market is unvalued right now?

Speaker 1 (23:05):
I mean there's there was a time where it seemed
like the safety market was booming a few years ago,
probably you know, less than maybe ten years ago, maybe
less than that. But you know, the safety market has
always been kind of that we do we give them
the money or do's like it's almost like the running
back money, right, Like it's almost like, you know, do
we pay these safeties who are coming and you know,

(23:26):
playing eighty plays a game and having to come downhill
and hit these all pro running backs all day? Like,
I mean, it's just it depends on I guess, the
system that you're in, the connections that you have. There's
a lot of really talented safeties out there that should
be getting their bags.

Speaker 7 (23:42):
But you know, it's that that's just the market.

Speaker 1 (23:44):
And how it is right now, and you can kind
of see that in some of the deals that are
being taken place. But I'm all for all the safeties
in the league getting as much money as they can.
And you know, I still there's so many safeties that
I love to still wash and who obviously still deserve
all the flowers, you know, Mika, you know I love

(24:04):
I mean, there's I love Jabon's game, and I do
think that in the system, in the right system, he's
gonna he's.

Speaker 7 (24:10):
Gonna thrive, and so I'm excited to see him in
New York.

Speaker 1 (24:12):
I mean, there's so many really good young safeties that's
that's gonna be exciting to watch in these next these
next few years.

Speaker 7 (24:18):
I do like that.

Speaker 1 (24:19):
I do like that Malachi starts too. Yeah, I like
I like him a lot from Georgia. His athleticism, you know,
his cover skills, his ball skills, and so he's gonna
be somebody that I definitely I definitely watch as he
as he starts his journey.

Speaker 7 (24:32):
JP.

Speaker 4 (24:33):
I was undrafted and did it, but you were a
seventh round pick in twenty thirteen and it didn't stop
you from being an All Pro and a pro bowler.
What would you say your secret to success is?

Speaker 1 (24:43):
Oh man, you know that that's a you know, seventh
round pick. You know, I mean I might as well
have gone undrafted too, you know, I was something here.
I picked Philadelphia, and you know, it's really just every day,
every moment, right like, you can't get caught up in
the kudah should have woulda or you know what's coming
or anything other than like right here, right now, right
like it's in this present moment. It's in this moment

(25:04):
right here, Like what happened yesterday has happened, what's coming tomorrow,
it's not never here. And so what can I do
right here in this moment to make myself a better player?
And I had always just had this chip on my shoulder,
like as a seventh round picker, as an undrafted player,
like we have these different chips on our shoulders. That's
why I feel like a lot of later round picks
play a lot longer, because, right, you have to prove

(25:24):
every day to somebody that you belong. And so I
felt like every single day, you know, I went to
Oregon State, not you know, not very many guys and
understand where that is, and so like to have to
come in every day and prove yourself that was my edge.
That was what I felt like I needed to do
in it, and it served me right. Plus I got
connected with, you know, the some of the older guys
like Dante Whitner and to Sean Gibson and guys that

(25:48):
really kind of took me under their wing and that
I got to learn from it really just start to mold,
mold some of their attributes into my own game. You know,
the way they watch film, the way they studied, the
way they practiced, what time they got to work in
the morning, you know, the type of stuff that they
did to.

Speaker 7 (26:01):
Take care of their body. All of that. You know,
there's not one formula that you know it's going to work.

Speaker 1 (26:05):
You know, for you, you continue to change that formula and
you continue to mold that formula into what works. And
you know, even over after my eleventh twelfth year, you know,
I'm still kind of tweaking and changing things into my
in my habits, in my in my training, into my
into my recovery. So just continue to say in the
moment and stay present and know, you know, if you're
on that field that you belong. No matter what anybody

(26:27):
wants to say to you. You know, there's gonna be
a lot of people that say this out of the other.
You know that matters, right Like, what matters is you
right here, right now, in this moment, and just continue
to go. Man, That's that's what I would tell somebody young.
That's what I would tell myself if I was I
was coming out again.

Speaker 3 (26:39):
Jordan, you're such a cool, well rounded dude, and you
talk about things that don't the things that belong. The
one thing that doesn't belong in your backdrop is that
tank cop that's hanging up on a hangar. You got
like seventeen jerseys and what is that?

Speaker 7 (26:51):
That is a special shirt right there?

Speaker 1 (26:53):
I might as well be a jersey, right That was
one of my Actually, that was my shirt that I
wore in the Enigma show. I don't know if you
guys watch Enigma with a Rod, but that was the
shirt that I wore during my ceremonies down there in
Costa Rica that you know, allowed me to really open
up my mind even more than it was.

Speaker 7 (27:10):
So that's a very special shirt to me.

Speaker 2 (27:12):
Wow, Wow, did you sign it?

Speaker 7 (27:14):
I did not know. It's it's got some paint on it.

Speaker 1 (27:17):
It's just got some kind of like memory, Like there's
some deep red paint in the in the top and
in the bottom from from when we painted our face.

Speaker 7 (27:24):
I didn't watch it.

Speaker 1 (27:25):
I know that sounds kind of weird, but no, that
was from you know, when I went out to Costa
Rica to hang out with a ron and in the
jungle and sit with some plant medicines, and you know,
we really got to dive deep.

Speaker 7 (27:35):
And so that's that's my that's my favorite jersey. Actually,
that's awesome, Jordan.

Speaker 5 (27:41):
As long as I've known you, pal, you've thrived on
helping other people, and I think that might come from
the fact that you've faced your own demons, right, I
had their unique experience of being around you when you
battled alcoholism came out on the other side a whole
new man. I feel like a rededicated father, an even
better football player, and someone who really cared about getting

(28:02):
in people's ear if they're having a tough time, being
a vocal voice in the locker room, and a macho
man sport at times when everyone tries to put this
facade on that we don't need help, well, you were
able to break that down. Say, I got no more
macho left in me. I'm here for everyone, of course
on the field, but off the field. So my question
for you, and you alluded to this a little bit
not in this past hanswer. The answer prior to that was,

(28:23):
we do have this whole new rookie class in the NFL.
What advice would you give your younger self, which I
know you guys said a little bit, but your younger
self about how to navigate the toll of the game
that not only takes place on your body, but especially
on your mind.

Speaker 1 (28:37):
Yeah, I always bring up the idea, like as athletes, right,
like we train all off season, we train all season long.
You know, we train our muscles to become better players.
Right we were lifting, we're running, we're sprinting, we're doing
all these exercises. And you know what we forget toy
and we would what we neglect to train is like
are arguably our strongest muscle that we have, which is
our mind. And you know, if I were to tell

(28:59):
talk to myself as a younger player, I would talk
to him and I would tell him, Hey, take care
of your mind, take care of your mental right and
and do practices that allow you Because our mind is
a muscle, right we got we have to train it,
we have to practice, We have to learn how to
sit with ourselves and maybe even we have especially as athletes,
we have so much negative thoughts, so many negative ideas,
so many you know, put a should have would have

(29:21):
so many you know, whether it's lack of confidence or whatever.
You know, these all are just ideas. These are all
just thoughts. They're not real life, and so but they
can become real life if we don't take over control
of our own mind and in a sense of like
letting go of those negative thoughts and negative ideas about you.
And so, you know, there's it's a practice, right, Like,

(29:41):
so I started meditating, I started doing breath work, you know, praying,
whatever whatever calls you. Right, there's there's practices that allow
us to strengthen the power of our mind.

Speaker 7 (29:51):
And and you know, those.

Speaker 1 (29:52):
Are some of the that would tell myself to continue
to practice my mental to continue to make my mental stronger.

Speaker 7 (29:57):
And I I'm curious as to if I was.

Speaker 1 (30:00):
Doing things like that, you know, if that would have
helped me off the field with some of the problems
I had with alcohol, right because you know, essentially, if
you can become a better person, you're going to become
a better player. And so like all of our a
lot of our problems, you know, come off the field
always leaks onto the field, whether it's you know, bad
decisions we've made, you know, whether it's you know, just

(30:20):
me drinking alcohol, whether it's relationships or whatever. And so
we really as athletes have to continue to take care
of our mental and continue to teach or continue to
practice with our mind right, And and there's it's a
it's a practice like I always teaching right now too
athletes from Miami how to essentially get into flow state. Right, Like,
as an athlete, we're in a game and everything's going

(30:42):
exactly how you see it. Every step you're seeing, every ball,
you're making it, you tackle right, you're getting your hands
on the ball.

Speaker 7 (30:48):
Just seems like nothing can go wrong.

Speaker 1 (30:50):
So you're in a state of mind right there called
called flow state, right, We've all heard flow state, and
so really that's a state of awareness. It's a state
of being, right, You're it's a state of thought. And
so really trying to teach these athletes that you can
get into this state before even stepping out on the field.
You can get into this state of awareness before even
stepping out on the field, which is crazy to me, right,

(31:11):
And you can do these practices that allow you to
dive into the subconscious party of mind. You know, I
always tell people like plant medicine was just a tool
for me to help me realize what I already had
inside of my body that I can activate with through
breath work, through prayer, through meditation, right, and all these
practices that have been around for a long time that
you know, I'm really starting to try to implement into
the sports world, and so I've been working with breathwork practitioners,

(31:35):
with sound healers, and with meditation guides to really dive
into the subconscious part of my mind to allow myself
to I want to now teach others how to practice
these practices in their own practice.

Speaker 3 (31:47):
You being able to speak on this stuff, Jordan, is
super helpful to these guys entering the league. Your approach
to it, your openness is vital, I think for athletes
trying to make their entire world more well rounded and successful.
And we appreciate you so much being so open about everything,
Jordan Ployer. Everybody looking for his next team so.

Speaker 1 (32:07):
Far are yes, well yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (32:13):
Soon got him. We're back on GMFB.

Speaker 3 (32:17):
Bengals pass rusher Trey Hendrickson has been named to the
Pro Bowl in all four of his seasons playing in Cincinnati,
but the one thing that he doesn't have yet from
the Bengals is a long term contract. He showed up
to off season workouts on Tuesday, not dressed for workout
here though, he's just walking with his teammates, and as
one of us said on the show looks like he's
going to go hit the six after Instead, he spoke

(32:38):
to reporters about his desire to get a long term
deal done, something he says the organization has not expressed
much interest in doing.

Speaker 8 (32:46):
It's one of those things that they were just not
seeing eye to eye on the structure. It seems that
a shorter deal is something that they are pushing pretty hard.

Speaker 7 (32:55):
That puts us in the same place.

Speaker 8 (32:57):
I was in twenty twenty two, where I have to
renegotiate the next year because if goals are the same
and playing at a better level than I did last year,
then next year we're just kicking the can down the road.
So it's something where I think both parties should understand
that a long term contract with guarantees that know that
I can continue to play at the level that I

(33:18):
have been is a mutual respect where that's where my
values lie. And it also allows me to stop having
to negotiate every offseason about something that has been almost
four years of doing.

Speaker 3 (33:34):
Elsewhere in Ohio, the Browns recently hosted the fourth annual
Northeast Ohio Girls High School Flag Football Championship Tournament. The
top four teams are moving on to compete against the
top four teams from the Cincinnati Bengals Division in the
inaugural Ohio Girls Flag Football State Championship this past Sunday
at Paul Brown Stadium.

Speaker 2 (33:52):
That's awesome. We love the development of that participation for
the young women coming up.

Speaker 3 (33:57):
Schedules are on the way, it's happening this evening. We
are going to pick our division rival games that we
enjoyed most into twenty four.

Speaker 2 (34:05):
We got highlights.

Speaker 3 (34:06):
Then we have one specific matchup at the table that
we want to look back on only return into you.

Speaker 2 (34:11):
Net four good football.

Speaker 3 (34:26):
There is a sense of finality to this day because
once we find out the schedule tonight for twenty twenty five,
things that happen in twenty twenty four don't.

Speaker 2 (34:33):
Exist to us anymore.

Speaker 3 (34:34):
So we have one final opportunity to roll some highlights
from the twenty twenty four season. Okay, it's not that serious,
being a little dramatic, but we're going to look back
at some of our favorite divisional rivalry games from last
season and we're going to unpack the rivalry and then
we're going to discuss one specifically at the table. So
I take you first to Cleveland week twelve, it's Steelers

(34:55):
Browns and oh my gosh.

Speaker 2 (34:57):
What a beautiful sight.

Speaker 3 (34:58):
Someone shook the snow globe that day, and Jameis Winston
got the start, and I believe this was one of
the most amazing three game interviews one could deliver from
Jamis speaking of delivering him from away from pick sixes.
Look at Jameis Winston couldn't find a single guy for
the touchdown to throw too, so he took it himself
over the goal line. Next Brown's drive, it's a five
point game. Jameis Winston gets sacked.

Speaker 2 (35:20):
Nick urbig Is the ball on the ground recovered by
Deshaun Elliott at the Browns twenty seven.

Speaker 3 (35:26):
That was actually Winston's first lost fumble of the season.

Speaker 2 (35:28):
Russell Wilson taken over. We can't even see the man.

Speaker 3 (35:32):
Russell Wilson fires for Calvin Austen the third a strike
over the middle to the middle of the w and Browns.
That's a twenty three yard TV Wilson would finish twenty
one for twenty eight for two seventy On the punt,
this thing goes out of bounds at the Steelers forty
five yard line, which is a perfect field position opportunity

(35:52):
for the Browns.

Speaker 2 (35:53):
We are just over four.

Speaker 3 (35:54):
Minutes to play in the snow. Ensuing Brown's drive fourth
and four from the Steelers thirty eight, Jameis Winston hits
Jerry Judy on the left side, drops in bounds.

Speaker 2 (36:03):
That's good for a sets up a.

Speaker 3 (36:05):
Dustin Hopkins field goal.

Speaker 2 (36:07):
Who's trying to stay more his single foot his single
foot warm priorities, right, but not if you have.

Speaker 3 (36:14):
Nick Chubb patiently works his way in the two yard touchdown.
Brown's retake a twenty four to nineteen lead.

Speaker 2 (36:21):
Then there's a failed two point conversion. Ourselves, listen.

Speaker 4 (36:25):
Jameis Winston is must see TV in a must interview.
Can you imagine him in that locker room, in the excitement,
in that huddle.

Speaker 3 (36:32):
I cannot Russell Wilson. He's looking for something. This ball
is knocked down by Grant Delpit and Denzel Ward to
finish this game off.

Speaker 2 (36:41):
This one we never could have seen coming.

Speaker 3 (36:43):
We thought the Browns were written off until Jameis Winston arrived,
as you said, in the locker room, after a perfect personality.

Speaker 2 (36:50):
For a Thursday night game.

Speaker 3 (36:51):
In week twelve, Brown's win this one twenty four, nineteen
in what once again, Mitch delivers an AFC North matchup
that we know in love.

Speaker 5 (36:59):
Yeah, shaking the snow glove was an understatement, understatement pouring
out there. What an apt environment for an AFC North
you know, division rivalry, Thursday night football, it's everything you want.
And Jamis Winston, like you said coming out, you need
to give him a few games a year, especially something

(37:19):
like a big win like that. So we can say
something off the cuff but right to the point and
have a little bit of fun.

Speaker 3 (37:24):
I take you from the AFC North to the NFC
North and another character character in the locker room that
we have now come to fall in love with. That
man Dan Campbell with the headset on. Let's go man,
Let's play.

Speaker 2 (37:35):
The Green Bay Packers inside.

Speaker 3 (37:38):
Whoo, that's Jared Goff with a jamior bid strike.

Speaker 2 (37:40):
That's just a two yard TV. The Lions would take
a seventeen to seven lead.

Speaker 3 (37:44):
And yes, Lawrence guy, the cheese is being graded in
the stadium again. Security issue, How does that guy get
a cheese grater inside Ford Field? We'll address those issues later.
Here we go, we're punching this thing in from the
red zone. You're j ook at Josh Jacob's push push push,
Packers would take a twenty eight to twenty four league
whoa one team I'm jumping plays here. Jared Goff finishes

(38:08):
this play action off to Tim Patrick on a one
yard touchdown thirty one twenty eight.

Speaker 2 (38:14):
These scores are all Backers.

Speaker 3 (38:15):
I'm jumping ahead place twenty four to twenty one.

Speaker 2 (38:17):
Lions take a lead. Stop stuffed him.

Speaker 3 (38:24):
Ben Johnson's wearing that Honolulu blue at the time, but
now he's elsewhere in the NFC North fourth quarter. Now
Packers in the red zone and look at him work.

Speaker 2 (38:34):
That's Josh Jacobs again. Two. How about Josh Jacobs on
the play j.

Speaker 4 (38:39):
J is the man. He never gets tackled by one person.

Speaker 2 (38:44):
Here's Goff again. Now he's finding.

Speaker 3 (38:47):
Tim Patrick again. Seventeen with the Lambeau leap and Ford field.
I don't know what we're calling that.

Speaker 2 (38:52):
The Ford jumping. Oh my god, they're going for it.
The Lions convert fourth in inches. They take this one
over thirty one, thirty up. This sets up the Jake
Bates game winning thirty five yards.

Speaker 3 (39:04):
If you all remember the Jake Baits story experience was
he was the brick salesman that became the Lions kicker
and it became effectively Jake baits month in Detroit.

Speaker 2 (39:14):
I love him there, right, Rickchell, he was a brick salesman.

Speaker 3 (39:17):
Yes, I mean, you know those kickers, they have some
odd jobs Lions, and then they come in and they
hit a game winner for you in the division. Lions
win this one thirty four thirty one in a week fourteen.
Lawrence guy, you're you're a man that knows the league
as a whole. The Dan Campbell effect on the Detroit
Lions has really taken an effect on the NFC North.

Speaker 6 (39:37):
It has when you're willing to take that risk during
those times to make sure that your team's going to win. Oh,
it's one of those effects, like I could when you're
playing a coach like that and you're playing a team
like that, you never know what's going to happen. Ye
you might think like, hey, we got this game, sale
they're going to kick it? Like, oh, are they really
going to might toush push this? Are they going to

(39:59):
get it out? Are they going to kick a field goal?

Speaker 3 (40:01):
It was great AFC North, NFC North. Now we go
to the table, though, because at this table sit two
people that are representative within the AFC East rivalry that
we know between the Bills and the Patriots YouTube faced
off in this one, I believe. So when it comes
to Bills Patriots, Mitch and lawis, what's this one?

Speaker 7 (40:18):
Like?

Speaker 2 (40:19):
First we go week for twenty nineteen. This is YouTube
t and up. All right, Mitch, talk to us.

Speaker 5 (40:24):
I'm fighting for my life, Randon got help you up
there he goes.

Speaker 9 (40:29):
I'm not going to quack finish the play nowhere? You
go back on our playoff like, I'll you know what,
being a center is great because you have help on
every single play for the most part, and when you don't, it's, uh,
you have something to say that offensive offensive pointer coming up.

Speaker 6 (40:47):
I'll look at.

Speaker 2 (40:48):
Him, Lawrence.

Speaker 3 (40:49):
When you have a center that you know who is
as prolific as Mitch was when he played, do you
do you do you focus on somebody else's trying to get.

Speaker 7 (40:57):
To the yep? There he goes.

Speaker 6 (40:58):
Now this is one notes I'll be like, look at Mitch, like,
please take care of me. He's not taking their at
me on that one. There you go, just let me
get the sack for this. Let me get the sack
man like, oh, you held me but we playing these games.
It's so hard to fact. But you enjoy the process, right,
Like I enjoyed playing against me, playing against the build.
There's always a good game of the fun atmosphere and

(41:21):
and of all this, I'm talking half the time. At
the end of it, you are, I'm literally talking to
people like my favorite lines in space.

Speaker 2 (41:29):
Yeah, might as well have the conversation.

Speaker 6 (41:31):
I said, Bro, you holping me? Soon get off me?
Then you start talking to the rest? Are you to
the running back? Some favorite line is I'd be like, hey, bro,
I'm a mite you.

Speaker 5 (41:38):
One of my sonar Ray players in the NFL's been
saying it for years.

Speaker 3 (41:41):
We're all parents at the table, which is why when
Lawrence Guy was telling us about how he spends his
time off the football field, his story made it even better.

Speaker 2 (41:48):
Lawrence, what are you up to in the off season?

Speaker 6 (41:49):
Well, the Lawrence got favorite Foundation to a baby shower
for the nick you moms we have thirty months come
out and we gave them all this essentials and gave
him a Mommy Mago from Hair and Nails. Oh that's been.

Speaker 5 (42:01):
That's what I'm talking about.

Speaker 2 (42:03):
What was the what was the mood that day?

Speaker 6 (42:05):
It's a blessing when you get into those factors of it.
It's a blessing to be able to see those moths
embrace what they didn't get to have.

Speaker 3 (42:12):
Congratulations, honestly skilled a release everybody.

Speaker 2 (42:14):
We'll see you tomorrow, Laurence Mitch Marcel
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