NFL Draft breakdown

The latest edition of the NFL Inside Report podcast examines every pick in the first round. Today, it's a special crossover episode with Rhett Lewis being joined by "Move the Sticks" hosts Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks to look at which team had the best draft. Bucky shares why he loved the strategy the Baltimore Ravens implemented but Daniel explains why the New York Jets had the best draft. Later, Bucky provides insight into how Malik Willis could transition into an NFL starting quarterback, similar to Steve McNair.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:05):
NFL Inside Report is the production of the NFL in
partnership with I Heart Radio. What's up, everybody, Welcome to
move the sticks and Inside Report. Oh yeah, a little

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little two for one special crossover crossover today. Excited. It's
great to be back with Buck and Ratt here in
the studio. The draft is behind us and we need
to dig into it, guys. So I think what we
do today is we go, let's go through the whole
first round. We'll alternate picks. This kind of our quick
snapshot of what happened in round one. They're gonna pick
a couple of our favorite drafts that we liked overall. Overall,

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I think we've got to talk about what went down
with the quarterbacks. Definitely, that's a discussion that needs to
take place. But I figured, let's not let's not waste
any time. Let's jump in. Let's go every other one.
Here are the three of us. Why don't you start
us off, Buck with the Jacks because you were in
Jacksonville for the draft. Yeah, so did Jaguars take Trayvon Walker?
I guess as expected. By the time we got to it.

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That was kind of the conversation. They went from being
there four guys that did. It was down to Trayvon
Walker a Hutchinson, Which one did you want? They elected
to go with Trayvon Walker. And and being down in Jacksonville,
I thought the interesting thing coming out of the conversation
wasn't the fact that he was a guy that was
a little bit of the Swiss Army knife up front.
He could play anywhere from knows all the way out wide.

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It was did they view him as an outside linebacker.
They're gonna put him at one position in parking. They
believe he can be heavy handed playing on the edge
to be a solid run defender. They believe he can
grow into being an effective pass rusher. And they just
wanted someone who was powerful, who could get better by
what they said is mastering one position as opposed to

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doing all the other stuff. Yeah, and and one little point,
we'll move on to the second one. I kind of
was mad at myself because when I was getting ready
to the last couple of days for the start of
the draft, and I don't know why, it just dawned
on him there with that decision, which was those running
backs you got in that division when you've got Therick
Henry and Jonathan Taylor. I think maybe that gave a
little bit of the edge to the more physically imposing,
dominant run defender. Well, probably why we saw Devin Lloyd

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go You know, they loaded up, they rowed it up
on defense, and they came back with Muma as well.
Didn't completely reshape the second level of their defense. Absolutely. Now,
they didn't take a tackle the entire draft. So all
that talk about maybe Ikeya Kwanu being in play at
one once the once the franchise tack Cam Robinson happened,
and then once the extension happens, they're out. All right,

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all right, I'll get to pick number two, Aidan Hutchinson.
Not a surprise. They ran this thing up so fast
it pick was in. It was like boom, all right, there,
that's done. And there was some debate. I had heard
a lot of chatter the day before, which was if
there was if there was a situation where you had
Ikey go one, because that had been floated around somehow.
If Ikey went one. I think there was a little

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bit of a debate in Detroit about Walker versus Hutchinson.
So I think we all just assume if Hutchinson's on,
if he's there they run the par ticket, which they
did in the card up, but it would have been
fascinating we didn't get see. It would have been fascinating
that he would have went one and they had that
decision that that Jacks had what they would have done.
I love Hutchinson to me, the best player in the draft.
It's a perfect perfect fit. There couldn't get better. And

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he even dressed it like. He dressed like a villainy
which I kind of like, and played it up. He
had all the Jews scorn up on Stave. It was awesome.
I love seeing, love the reaction with the family, all
that number three Texans going Derek Stingley Jr. Look, you know,
a little bit of a surprise, I think still based
on how much we all like Sauce Gardner seeing Stingley
go ahead of Sauce at the cornerback spot. But man,

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we were talking about Stingley being one of those risers.
In the last two weeks his teams got more comfortable
with his injury and his medical We know he's got
the elite talent. We saw it in twenty nineteen, and uh,
I was I was a little surprised that that's where
Houston ended up going knowing they needed just about everything.
But you know they've been searching for a corner for
about the last I don't know, ten years since Jonathan
Joseph left kind of kind of put some break from

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out there for us when he talked about we don't
have the kind of corners that we need to play
the style of defense that we want to play. What's
interesting about the Derek Stingley pick over Sauce Gardner. I
think we all would say that twenty nineteen Derek Stingley
was anything and everything that you wanted. Five star player
played like that, um I thought I found it fascinating
that being able to go back to twenty nineteen because

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there was so much conversation and how three years they
go back three years his freshman year. But seeing the
one on one tapes going against Machase, I think that
really helped Derek Stingley's case because you're seeing two guys
that are dominating at the NFL level. We had a
chance to go through the archives and he held own. Yeah,

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how he held his own against those guys, and then
you got sauce set for yeah. So Sauce for me
was prototype long arms RANGI uh, perfect football character. In
terms of New York, we know what that defense looks
like when you have a premier corner on the edge.
I think he's the right fit, and I think he
has the right temperament and mentality to succeed in New
York with all the expectations and all the other stuff

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that comes along with being as yet. Yeah, I just
think about that position group and what that looks like.
You know last year, um what that group was. And
now you bring in Dj Reid. So Dj Reid starts
the off season as your as your most talented corner, right,
you get him in Bryce Hall and then now of
a sudden you had Sauce Gardner, and it just shuffles
the line up, pushes the lineup down. And Baseball we
always talking about want to deepen your lineup. That's how

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you do it. They deepen their lineup, man, and this
is I think he's got a chance to be a
true number one corner. It's just well, we walked up
right by him before the draft and you guys saw
him and Andy he is so tall and so long,
like there's a presence to him. There's something to be
said when the Jets would get off the bus last year.
It's a small team. It's a little team. And now

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all of a sudden, you look at what they've done,
and we'll get through the rest of their picks. Here.
They got bigger, They got bigger, and I think that's, uh,
that's an interesting little subplot there to what they accomplished.
You know, I think he's really interesting being able to
have him on the on the edge and do something.
All right, let's get the number five here the Giants.
This one, to me was a little bit of a surprise.
I did not think they would go Thibodau. They went
Tibodaut five five. I think the way it fell, and

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we talked about it a lot. I'm sure I was
thinking the same thing. Once they had all the tackles
on the board, it made it easier for them to say,
we'll hold off on the tackle. We're gonna get one
at seven, because you know, buttally and if some reason,
if Carolina would shock us or Carolina would trade, then
we could we might lose Thibodeau. So if that Tibodeau
is your guy, you take him there at five, which
they did. Um gives him, you know, gives him some juice.

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Gives him a fastball off the edge. It'll be a
good young combination with him. Last year, Azizo Gilari kind
of quietly had eight sacks as a rookie here. And
to me, when you when you're a team that stinks
and you get close to ten sacks with the limited
pass fresh opportunity because you don't get to play with
the lead um, that means he's a double digit sack
player if they get their team going. And I think
you can't underestimate the coach. Wing Martindale has dealt with

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big personalities. I don't think Cavon Tibodeau's personality and that
stuff would bother him because he had to deal with
Sizzle and Manin and some of the other guys on
this team. I think it works. So then we get
to number six, and I just didn't think in all
the scenarios that the Panthers would have a pick of
the offensive tackle class there at six, we go straight,
they might get wiped out exactly exactly, and we go

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defense one through five, which you know is something that
that's certainly you know, obviously did happen. I don't know
we thought could have happened. So the fact that the
Panthers were able to get the guy who they viewed
as the best tackle in this class, guy who we
all kind of viewed as the best tackle in this
class too. I mean it just that was another slam
dunk there once we felt like they weren't going to
quarterback now that was where they were going. No, no mystery.

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So six with the quantumne nice seven Evan Hill. Evan Hill.
I believe he was the guy that the Giants wanted
all the way because you have Ryan day Ball in
the relationship with Alabama kind of annoying exactly what you're
getting because he can make those phone calls and Nick
Saban and kind of figure out what is the best
way to go about uh your business. With Evan Neil,
it's a great fit. You put him on the right
tackle you have Thomas I think. Yeah, by the way,

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I was we talked about this on path. Never all
that stuff got out about them having Charles Crosses as
their number one tackle made no sense to me, Like,
there's no way they've gotta left tackle Charles cross I
believe the left tackle only Why the world would you
go draft when you got this young left tackle was
played well last year and Andrew Thomas. To me, Evan
Neil was always always that guy. Think about the the
way that they paired things up here young pairings now

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with Olari and Thibodeaux and now Thomas and Neil. Yeah,
pretty cool. That's good bookends on both sides of the ball,
all right. Eight was the Falcons. They go with Drake London,
so the first receiver off the board. We had talked
about this twin Towers. Now we talked to us forever.
They're gonna play tall ball with Kyle Pitts. The question
was pass rusher, which you had a pass rusher in
Jamaine Johnson. There team I think eighteen sacks last year,

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and I think they lost like six or eight of
them in the off season. So man, they've got to
address the pass rush. Maybe they would do pass rush,
but I think at the end of the day that
to me, this is what this looks like. To me,
they're kind of building this team, and whether or not
it's for Ritter, you know, we'll see where they got Ridder.
He'll get an opportunity to be that guy of the future.
If not, they're trying to build the foundation here for
maybe the quarterback next year. Um and give them some

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weapons with with London and Pitts a good nation. It's
a really good combination. Talk about being able to play
that big boy ball on the perimeter. Uh, London certain
help send in the red zone. Seahawks at nine when
Charles Cross, and this is one of those situations where
like we view philosophically Seattle as a ground and pound
type of team generally right and Cross the guy with
the most pass blocking reps of any tackle in this class,
coming from the mic Leach system, and you're like, okay, Uh,

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they got too mich Mike Leach offensive for him. Kas
to write later, but so it's not that he can't
be a dominant run blocker. We just have Yeah, so
maybe that's they they they view Charles is having that
kind of potential. Anyway, as we get back to the
Jets now at ten. So Garrett Wilson at ten, and
you know, there was some conversation I think DJ you

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talked about Garrett Wilson maybe going to them at four
because they wanted the playmaker. I put it, yeah, you know,
And so now you get him at ten, you got
a guy to pair with. Uh. You know, I'm more
on the outside, they can throw it all over the yard.
They're better up front. They're just a nice fit to
me for them to come out with that daily double,
with what they got with Sauce Gardner and Garrett Wilson.
The think about any he's gonna be great a training camp,

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and you think about what that receiving corps looked like
a couple of years ago, and look at what it
looks like now. And again now Corey Davis gets slotted differently.
Now you look at him differently. Still got Burrios, Yeah,
you've got Burrios. MEM's I've been told has been off
the charts in the offseason. Stuff. Buck this guy, it's
gonna be fun. I think everybodys kind of forgot they
can go five. They go five deep at wide out

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and they're gonna What they're doing too, is they're baking in.
Think about the tight ends, right c j Uzama Conklin.
They ended up getting Ruckert in this draft. They're gonna
have so many easy completions baked in. You talk about
the Shanahan scheme all the time, Buck, like you start
the game, but you should start the game with seven
eight completions, just off, just off, bubbles and quicks and
boots and just making it easy for Zack Wilson. So

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I think that's the plan there, all right, I'm up
with Crystal lave. So we go back to back Ohio
State wide outs. The Saints move up for a Lava.
I had talked to a general manager, a Super Bowl
in general manager, a couple of days before the draft
that he was not buying this business with the Saints
not taking a back. I said, what everybody's told me,
they're not taking a quarterback. They think they're close. They
want a couple of good players. And he goes, how

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in the world do you trade a future one in
a future two and you're gonna come away with the
receiver and a tackle? Like he thought, that just doesn't
make any sense to me. And that's what they did.
We thought, it's exactly what they did. They feel like
they're close, and they started to see that run on
whiteouts and they're like, we're not sitting back here and
letting this uh fall to us, because it's not going
to fall to us. So they went up and got

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Crystal LoVa. Crystal LoVa was the guy that I thought.
It was the perfect compliment to my certain they love
and they love Ohio State. Nobody loves Ohio State last year. Yeah,
you know, the whole secondary used to Yeah, every Marshawn Latimore,
the whole deal. Yeah. So anyways, what do you got next?
All right? Next up, I've got the Detroit Lions, who

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made the biggest move up in the first round, moving
up twenty picks thirty two to twelve, trading with Washington
to get the wide receiver out of Alabama Jameson Williams,
the third straight wide receiver with Columbus Ohio connections there,
which is kind of be honest, Be honest, um, because
I was on the spot when this trade happened. Was
there any part of your being that thought that was

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for James that happened? Not a single I thought it
was Jermaine Johnson or the quarterback or or was you
know they had coached Milick Willis. There was all that
rumor and buzz like maybe they take Milik Willis the
second pick, where none of us were really buying that.
But I was told that morning that they were calling
up to multiple teams inside the top ten. So I
had even said, like it's gotta be a quarterback, right,

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Like what you're gonna come from that portion of the
draft all the way back up. It's gotta be a quarterback.
And first of all, they didn't have to give up
party anything. They came way short on the points. When
you put in that trade, I thought they would have
to be a future two or a future one. Yeah,
they swapped twos and then got a five. It was
like nothing. So yeah, that's a that's a big move.

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So good kudos to Detroit to pull that. Alms did
a nice job. And I just got a weapon wide
receiver just wasn't in the register with me. We didn't
think they would take it to too obviously, and they're
thirty two, You're like, oh, they're all gonna be gone
at once again credit to the head coach of being transparent.
He said, I don't believe we need an elite quarterback
to be able to get it done. And so he
told us that there you hit us up right. Egos.

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Jordan Davis another one. You know, we go all the
way back. We talked about the Eagles and what the
egos like to invest in upfront guys who helps to nail.
So you get Jordan Davis, who looked size wise, you
can think about putting him either beside Fletcher Cox or
if his lever pacing Flessher Cox. It was a good
move for me. Athletic can do everything you want to
see it front and I feel like a lot of
people forget about Javon Hargrave. John Hargrave was the best

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interior rusher, like he can really rush and I know
the number, the sack numbers aren't incredible, but this is
somebody that can rush inside. He's got ability. So combine
him with Jordan Davis, you get to learn from big
fletch Um. And I thought it was ten years I
believe we said it on there. I think it was
ten years ago. I was in Philly for that draft.
Traded up a few spots for Fletcher Fletcher and they
did the same thing here with Jordan Davis. By the way,

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first of many times teams got ahead of the Ravens
because as Ravens have profiles for players like we talked
about Jordan Davis. If he's there, which gets me to fourteen,
and that's Kyle Hamilton's and I think there is a
good chance Kyle Hampton would have been the pick even
if Jordan Davis were there. I think the grades are
very high on Kyle Hamilton's this offseason. Yeah no, and
that's the thing, and now they spent They've always invested

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in safety, they've always believed in it. Why the rest
of the league says it's not an important position, They
say the opposite You've got Chuck Clark now can drop
down and play low. You've got those two guys that
can play high. So the importance and this is kind
of a longer discussion, which we'll have a chance to
get into more in the off season, which we love
to do on this pod. But if you are going
to be playing light boxes like the league has has

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really gone to to try and limit explosives and big plays,
you need safeties that can that can flat footed, read,
drive and tackle. So now you are in a situation
with with Kyle Hamilton's that can help you play. You
can play coverage, but he can still come down and
fill and do everything you want to do from that standpoint.
From depth, they talked about three safety looked he could
be Yeah, and he can do all that stuff. It's

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a big dude, six foot four two or fifteen pounds.
Let's move to number fifteen, where the Houston Texans after
the trade with the Eagles, moved back to spots, and
they get a guy that we had kind of talked
about is maybe sliding out of the first round due
to some injury concerns. Kenyan Green, the offensive guard slash
four positions, but it feels like they're gonna move. They're
gonna kick Titus Howard back out to right, leave him

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the right tackle and maybe, like Kenyan Green, slip in
there at one of the guard spots. I dropped him
a few spots at the very end of the process
because some concerns that I was related to me about
his knee. So, but if you're talking about just ability,
the interior is always unless he was he's kind of
the guys pounds or whatever he is. He's just a bigger,
bigger dude who can really move and do a lot

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of things. So um, again, everybody's medical staff is different.
They're comfortable with it, and I hope it's right. He's
a great player, really a player. So another good player.
How about a Washton Commanders and Johan Dotson coming over.
They have desperately needed someone to go opposite Terry McLaurin.
Then you get a speed player, a guy who wants
to riff with the ball in his hands, and as
we think of out this offense, trying to bake in

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some easy completions for Carson Wentz. You have someone who
can do something with the ball in his hands. Yeah,
pair him up there with Terry McLaurin, and you've just
given some more some more targets for Carson Wentz there
at sixteen seventeen. Zion Johnson to the Chargers. You know,
I think a lot of people will be surprised by this,
just because Penning was there. You'd say, okay, you take Penning,
you put him at right tackle. You've got your bookends.
You're rocking and rolling with two young tackles going forward.

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But in talking to those guys the couple of days
before the draft, they had talked about the fact that,
you know, we want to get the best offensive lineman,
and we gotta get the best offensive linemen. We're gonna
put him in there and go what They were not
concerned with either it's a guard or a tackle. They
feel like they have some versatility there. I know Storm
Norton had his struggles last year at right tackle, but
there were a few games last year where Trey Pipkins

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got in there and they thought he had taken major steps.
I think they're comfortable with the fact Trey Pipkins could
be their right tackle next year. The light sometimes comes
on a little bit later for guys small school player,
But I would be surprised if that's their lineup with
Zion Johnson at right guard and then right tackle ings
up being Trey Pipkins when it's all said and done.
So Zion Johnson rock solid, smart, tough. I mean, from

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them right guard to left tackle is as good as
any in the league. Right from what the offensive line
looked like. Yeah, so you get Corey Lindsley Filer rashauns Later,
that's it's good. They just gotta figure out what to
do it right tackle alright. So that brings me back
here at number eighteen, which got a little crazy with
trade as Philadelphia acquired A. J. Brown from the Tennessee
Titans for the eighteenth overall pick, and then at eighteen

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Tennessee Titans take our trailing Burk's comp or take a J.
Brown's don't even started. I gotta tell Bucky this story.
So here we go. Let's go inside the draft. We
are we We've got the trade. The Philadelphia Eagles acquire
a J. Brown. We're gonna break down a J. Brown
bing bang, boom, and then all of a sudden, the
Titans are on the clock. The Titans take Trailing Burk's.

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I'm like, this is a dream, this is my cop.
Like that doesn't get any better than this. Trailing Barks
is gonna replace A J. Brown. So I'm sitting here.
I've got the Eagles, I've got the Titans, I got
a J. Brown. Trailing Burk's roll the highlights, all right,
Trailing Burks highlights are rolling. I'm talking about Jalen Hurts
is going to be throwing the ball to Trailan Burks
and Nick Sirianni is gonna know what to do with
Trailer Burks. Hey, dummy, you know that Burks is on

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the Titans. A J. Brown is on the Eagles. And
I'm sitting there. So I finished. I finished, finished the breakdown.
Usually I finished the breakdown. I look at C D
and he's just he's ready to roll. And see he's
looking at like this and I and it hits me like,
oh yeah, that's that's that's that's not right. Yeah. J.
Brown is with the Eagles and then the ship's sail

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the way it was over. Keth Brown then gets straight
and it was like it was my head was swimming.
So you guys know me the whole rest of the
draft of what's wrong with you? Yeah, that was inside
the draft there. But I love it. I love I
love now that you've got the Titans have trailing Burk's
and then they've got Robert Woods and you know, nice
little set up there for for Ryan Tanner. And the

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thing that this is what's so cool about the draft
is we scrimmage this stuff. We talked this all the time,
but we scrimmage this stuff and then it happens, and
so you're like, you know, we talked about this. Where
he was picked, it's like a three and a half
a million dollar a year salary. Yeah, yeah, which I
think when you when you add that extra year, I
think two whatever whatever you ended up getting, like, that's
a massive value. It's a massive savings. Yeah, we'll have

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to talk about us in a later thing. I don't
think they could pay a J. Brown that kind of
money When you have Derrick Henry making like half of that,
I think it obsets the applecart when everyone in the
building knows that Derrick Kenry is the engine that makes
that offense go. Interesting interesting subplot are eighteen and Trevor nineteen,
Trevor Pinning going to the Saints. So they did it.
They would get the big play receiver. They were able

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to make sure they replaced Tearyan Armstead. They get Trevor
Pinning to go in that spot. They were able to
get the gather they wanted right at the spot that.
I don't know if we thought Pinning would get there,
we thought he would be in range seventeen could have been. Yeah,
so it we're it worked for the Saints. They were
upgraded squad and yeah, just quickly. Um. I don't know
how this worked out on on the red lowis mock draft,
but I do. I do want to say that our

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old colleague Shanika Dabny hen Or Sin who's down with
the Saints now, asked me to do a little mock
for the Saints picks in the first three rounds. Just
want to say that that's the official record because that
was the Lava and Penning come on, both got them both.
So just put that into the old CHI might have
to send us a send us a Twitter a text
let us know if that's justin purifications, but you're you're

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back with Kenny I think here all right, yep, So
Steelers Kenny Pickett. Um, this is kind of what we
had heard. Uh, we talked about that they seemed to
be leaning in that direction maybe a couple of weeks
before the draft. It's kind of while we were talking
about Pickett with the Steelers, and it was fascinating to
have coach Tomlin on because sometimes we use the terminology
and we talk in certain ways and and then you'll

(20:44):
hear the explanation from the team side. Maybe it's a
little different. This was literally the exact He used the
word floor. He said, we loved Kenny Pickett's floor, and
we had we had framed this decision as floor ceiling. Yeah,
he is the floor quarterback and that's not a bad thing,
especially when you feel good about the rest of your roster. So, um,
you know, I think I think he's got a good

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chance to be starting. We asked him, is he going
to be in the competitions? Oh yeah, competition to start
and once Drubisky to Risky sign. Initially we we talked about, well,
you know, maybe true bistic and then we saw the
contract members go nope, let's backup contract. That's not starting
contract correct, exactly right. So that brings us to twenty
one with the Kansas City Chiefs, who moved up to
this spot in a trade with the New England Patriots,

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and they end up getting you know, arguably the most
fundamentally sound corner in this draft and Trim mcduffee. And
I remember when they were sitting back there at twenty
nine and thirty, I was like, man, they really need
a corner. You just don't know if there's gonna be
one there that fits the value. And they end up
going up and getting the third best corner in this
class and Trim mcduffee great fit. Going back, I talked
to Veach before the draft and I said, you know, hey,

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you've got the ammunition. If you want to go all
the way up, you can go up. And he's like,
yah no, he said, we got some things we need
to get done. You know, I think they wanted the
picks they ended up doing it, especially defensively. Yeah, defensively,
they really upgraded. This guy is terrific. He'll allowed them
to play the kind of defense they want to play
on the outside of the Spags his defense and a
little less risky than Marcus Peters is in the way,

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same school, different players, the same school, different place. So
the Green Bay Packers quay Walker, this to me was
all about the types, the traits, the prototype. They wanted
a big, physical linebacker. Even though people talked about n
Kobe Dean was the guy that was the tone setter.
They're quay Walker is the one that you looked at.
It was like, that is what an NFL linebacker should
look like, sideline to sideline chaser. You put them on

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the field aside Andre Campbell, and when you think about
this Packers defense, quietly, they've kind of carried the water
for the last couple of years in Green Bay. That
should continue with these young guys coming to love that
no receiver pick. You love that all six wine outs
were gone by a team you love didn't. But to me,
to me, it was the smart thing that it was
because the gap between the players kind available and the

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next best receiver was tremendous. So um and they ended
up doing all right in the in the white out department,
all right. Next up, Buffalo ends up trading up Uh
and they end up taking Kyer Elam. I had Kyer
Elam going to the Chargers in the mock draft, and
this is one of those guys that I liked him.
I didn't love him on the tape um there, so
I thought it was just a little too much separation
at times. But height, weight, speed, toughness, all that stuff

(23:09):
checks out, um, But there was just some stuff I
thought we had to work back downhill. You saw a
little bit separation. Uh, some tackling was a little bit inconsistent,
not for lack of one to but when I talked
to made calls kind of the week of and uh,
it was the teams were much higher term. And when
you see the video they released of his interview with
the team sitting in there and you see his notes
that he had kept and how much of a kind

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of a pro he already was, I'm like, Okay, that's
the missing pace we didn't have. As this guy seems
like he's dialed in so much more value in getting
that piece that they needed opposite turd Avious White. And
you know, depending on where White it's gonna probably I
might not be ready for the start of the season. There.
You had they had to have a corner as opposed
to they're okay at running back right now because that
we had talked about Breese Hall. Maybe there. Yeah, but

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also if it's gont of the profile you think about
the picks at the Buffalo Bills have, they all have
these guys that are like blue collar, working like guys
that are professional, a total pro. And that's and that's
one of those reasons why I think he was my
I think I had him in the early forties on
my top fifty list, and I feel comfortable with that.
Off the tape when you hear him speak and you
hear how he's wired, and like, Okay, I get it,
I get it. Why he uh while he was more

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loved around the league. Let's move to Tyler Smith at
number twenty four to the Dallas Cowboys. They needed offensive
lineman help and and Tyler gives him. I think they
announced him as a tackle. Yeah, he's gonna play this,
gonna play tackle there. So he'll jump in where Lyle
Collins left in free agency to go to the Cincinnati Bengals.
And so Tyler Smith will fill in their right tackle.
And look, you're starting to rebuild that offensive line, rebuild
that you know that prestige that you had, you know

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about five to seven years ago. It's the best offensive
line football, no doubt. All right, yeah, here we go.
So let's go twenty five. The Baltimore Ravens. We had
talked about the Ravens did not have anybody who can snap,
so they had to get it. We're worried about Tyler
Linden moallm in terms of size. But I think the
thing they really impacted the success that they had with
Marcia Yonda. I think influenced him because another hour problem.

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And they love Kirk parents. They have a great relationship,
and they just they just believe in what Iowa produces.
And based on how those guys have played the league
est me, I understand body made a pick, no doubt. Um,
and you think about you know, just their their profile.
He doesn't fit from the size and we had talked
about that, but temperament wise, like Lindar bombs a bully,

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like that's how he plays, and that's what what Baltimore loves.
By the way, they did go enormous. Another one of
the weird cops, Daniel Filele, was in Orlando Brown Junior
comp And then all right, so next I am up
with twenty six, and this is the Jets trading back
in for Jermaine Johnson. I've got no answer because I
know if you've listened to us, the question that you're
thinking is how God's Green Earth is Jermaine Johnson available

(25:38):
at I've got no answer. And I've talked to multiple GMS,
talked to buddies around the league. Is there what am
I missing? It? Was this guy done? No, no, he
just teams. Teams had wide receiver needs and offensive line needs.
We saw six wide receivers go. I think we had
nine offensive lineman go in the first round. So teams
were need focused and they went. We had those three
addressers go early, and there was the gap. But to me,

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this was the clearly easily the biggest How you pick
of the first round and I think it's my ninth
overall player. They got twenty six, so you're plus seventeen
on that big gosh, and you go look at this
this Jets d line. Guys. Now, when you had Karl Lawson,
who did not play at all last he's coming down
that free agent contract, so he's coming back into that mix.
And now now again we talked about reshuffling the lineup

(26:24):
and in lengthening out your lineup. Now you've got Quentin Williams,
you've got Sheldon Rankins, you've got lost and you've got
Jermaine Johnson. You can roll through John Franklin Myers who
can move up and down the line of scrimmage. They
drafted Michael Clemens. Later they brought back Vinny Curry and
kind of, you know, he'll have a spot roll there.
They've kind of that's a dude. They got dudes upfront.
Good group for sure, and then Jacksonville trades back up.

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So we had two trades back into the back end
of the first round from teams that didn't have any
more picks in the first round. So it was the
Jets there with Johnson. Now the Jaguars do it with
Devin Lloyd. So obviously he took Trayvon Walker at one.
They come back up. Remember they lost Miles Jack in
free agency, right, so he went to the Pittsburgh Steelers.
So you know that that second level of their defense,
you know, they needed to figure out. And they get
the best linebacker you know in the draft. I think

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you know, at least in my opinion, they're coming from
Utah and now they get some length back there in
the second level, guy that can make plays really all
over the place. He can rush the pass for a
little bit, he forces fumbles, he can pick passes off,
and he's attackled by the way and off the ball linebackers.
And we can say, oh, it hasn't been valued as much,
and maybe that's why some of these guys have gone down.
It's valued in Jacksonville. I mean when they when they
go out and pay Al Khan, they go out, they

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draft devn Lloyd in the third round. They Chad Boma,
who's a great player who we all love. They think
it's important there at the second level. Yeah. I think
also we talked about building your team to win a division.
You talked about a running back Jonathan Taylor, Deryck Kenry
being able to have to deal with those guys. You
gotta have big buddies all around the front seven to
be able to get that done. All right, Who you
got DeVante Wyatt going to Green Bay Pack There's another

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interior piece and teammates. The Packers have done this over
and over and over again. I want to get teammates.
But when they drafted Kenny Clark years ago, You're like, man,
Kenny Clark didn't need someone on the inside. They can
do it, and so you look inside, they just get
another athletic piece, another guy they can play at the
point of attack. I think they only heavily on their
defense while this offense is still trying to find their
identity with Hare and Roger. Well, this was strange or

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was it? Or was it? You know, we talked about
as soon as we heard the Cole Strange you tea
chat new golfensive lineman going to New England Patriots at
twenty nine. You're like, okay, here comes Logan Mankins again, right,
But it kind of was a little bit off the
radars and Fresno State offensive lineman. They ended up taking
him and ended up being one of the best guards
in football for a long time. Certainly hoping that's what
they can do with Cole Strange here. You know, who

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fits fills a void If they sent Shack Mason off
to the Tampa Bay Bucks and look there you go.
I mean, it's just it's strange because we didn't have
him going in the first round. But it fits with
the Patriots do because they're always a little bit different. Yeah,
So let me, I want to jump in on this
one here. So Cole Strange, he was my seventy four player. Okay,
So now I want you to then unpack the rest

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of it. So you go, okay, seventy four player to
pick what the heck are they doing? Right? Well, then
let me explain this side of it. When when they
were on the clock, the interior offensive line, we had
a good sized runoff, so I had Cam Jurgens is
my best available interior offensive lineman. Cole Strange was number two,
so he was the second best available interior offense line

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in my in my opinion. So he said, okay, well
they had just had him over Cam Jurgen's not not
a big deal. Um. And then when you dig in,
first of all, I talked to several teams that wanted
we're targeting him early third round, which if teams are
targeting somebody in the early third round, me, he's probably
gonna go in the second round because a lot of
people like him and think he's a good player. So
then we go, okay, well he's the second round player
went in the first round. Not a big deal. Then

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when you look at the background, forty four starts which
you love, considered considered all the service academies to go
to school. He had the grades as an engineering major
um and he plays with the bulldog mentality. We had
talked about it after the Senior Bowl. He would get
killed on a rep and he would come back and
went a rep ultra ultra competitive. We did the Brian
Baldinger comp with the face masks, the one bar down

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the middle. But I'm like, okay, so you've got a
profile match with the Patriots. He's the second best available
interior offensive line which they wanted to target and probably
goes in the second round. So when you add all
that stuff up together, I guess what I'm saying is
it shouldn't be all that strange that they take there.
You go, yeah, I mean they did have a pick
at fifty aft overall, maybe you know, maybe he was

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gone by then, and then you want to miss. Yeah,
and you don't know. And that's what they say, And
they say, look, our goal is to draft starting players,
and if he's going to start for us, a good
pick cares where he goes. Yeah, exactly right, All right,
let's move to thirty Carl Loftus. That's Buck rhet one
out of order. By the way, Buck Yeah, you went
strange when I was supposed to go strange. But that's

(30:42):
my But that's my bad. You know when you do
a crossover, when you do a crossover episode, you know,
look at that happen where we are now, I'm gonna,
I'm gonna let's let's just let's uh just going to
the Kanci Chiefs. I love this because what it does
is last year when they got Melvin Ingram, he brought

(31:03):
a little nasty to that team that they were lacking.
So then you get George garlof to some power player
to put alongsid Chris Jenal's opposite Frank Clark. It gives
them something different because they also need to stop the run.
This is a power guy who is really good against
the run. It helps them up front. Yeah, again, address
that defense that was their focuss with McDuffie that it's awesome.
Yeah too, and too high floor players. If we're gonna
use the floor, why don't you go ahead on deck?

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Who would do so? The Bengals, you know, they were
getting one of those teams that, based on what they
did in free agency, like gave themselves some real options
to take who they felt like. You know, it was
the best available player. Now, I think we all kind
of felt like secondary was a place they could still
look to improve just by getting you know, h w
W Woozier last year, you know, Eli Apple got uh
you know, had some struggles in the Super Bowl, as
we saw at the very end, and then they brought

(31:46):
in Mike Hilton to which I thought played pretty well
in the slot for them. And so, like I I
considered when I was filling out my mock draft, I
considered Dax Hill there, but I was like, maybe an
outside corner would be a little bit better. Kyler Gordon
perhaps went early second. They ended up going Dax Hill,
and I still think, you know, opportunity to being upgrade
there at thirty one. So nice work there by the Bengals.
All right, last pick Minnesota Vikings. After trading back, they

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end up taking Louis Scene and Louis Scene again. Georgia
defense just ridiculous, um, but Louis Scene. To me, I
was talking to a head coach defensive head coach is
smart dude and said this was his favorite player in
the draft, And I said, well why, He said, first
of all, he's he's brilliant with the way he talks
about this defense incredibly smart and he said, just there's

(32:29):
like a warrior mentality to him. There's just a warrior spirit.
And people think that's hokey when you say stuff like that,
but you can tell when you're around guys and you
kind of you get a feel for kind of a
presence and a leadership and a little bit of aura.
And he said, this dude has that. He's like, I'll
bet I'll bet on this guy. And so I did
a on Tuesday of Draft week or Monday was I
did a Twitter spaces with a bunch of Georgia alums

(32:50):
in the NFL. Was Sony Michelle, was McCole, Hardman, in
Roquan Smith, and we got to talk about Louis scene
and real qualm was like, Louis, if you're listening, big fellow,
lower your target area. You are going to spend some
the next level if you keep getting the way you
do in college. So yeah, just lower that target area
a little bit. But he can bring the thunder. We

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know that. Yeah, he's a good player. So I like
that pick. They traded down and did not think that
they got the value they should have got when they
traded down. But in terms of the picks, um, but
I love the player that they came with. Their in
in Lewis scene. All right, the draft. We're gonna take
one draft here and just kind of dig into it
and a piece, so we each take a draft that
we love. I'll start off here with the Jets and
talked about it. They look they should have a dominant draft.

(33:34):
When you have four picks in the top thirty eight,
you should come away with four good players. I don't
think in any any uh any way possible. I thought
they would come away with Sauce Gardner, Garrett Wilson, Jermaine Johnson,
and then also trade up for Bruce Hall. Uh So,
Sauce Gardners my top corner, Garrett Wilson was my top receiver,
Bruce Hall was my top running back. And then this

(33:54):
has got three players I thought were the best their
position and Jermaine Johnson. Buck. You tell me if a
year from now we look back on the season and
Jermaine Johnson led all rookies and sacks, would you be
surprised none at all? Because his game we saw it.
We saw the explosive trades, we saw his ability to
get there. I think it's funny when you talk about
the Jets and what they were able to accomplish, and

(34:15):
I find it fascinating that Joe Douglas came from Baltimore
by way of Philly. And so when I look at
the Baltimore Ravens in their draft, and you worked in
the building, but I've always believed from the outside looking in,
the Baltimore Ravens have always committed taking the best player available.
They're not as hung up on needs. They want great
players that the great players sitting there, they're gonna take him.

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And so when I think about just the four picks,
cal Hamilton's outstanding. We talked about him possibly being the
best defender in the draft. Tyler Lindonmon was the best center.
There's some questions about size, but in terms of Watchington play,
you talked about the bully mentality that showed up, David
a job boll off the edge, the explosives but having
the inside familiar Mike McDonald being able to do it.

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Travis Jones up front, we saw him by the way
o jabo. How cool is it him in a way
and their and their backgrounds connection together right there able
to be back. So Travis Jones is another one. But
then I believe the two picks in the fourth round,
what do you get Charlie Colar and Isaiah likely to
me if you go back and look at how I've
done that twice before, how Lamar Jackson played. He played

(35:18):
better when they had all the tight ends on the field.
So let's bring that back. I know you're a little
upset with us because we got rid of Hollywood, but
I think they actually made it where the game can
be better and easier for Lamar Jackson by adding these
tight ends to go with the guy that there. So
we we've talked about this before about one of the
things that they do in their track record is they
double up at positions. So when you go back through

(35:39):
and look through their history, um and you look at
the tight end position, they did it with Pitta and Dixon,
I believe right the first and then they Hirst James Hurst,
so so Hayton Hurst, Yeah, James Hurst the tackle and
Hurst James Hurst by the North Canta. I saw Clowne
play against Hirst uh in the game. But yeah, so
they that's there, that's their philosophy. What's what's the draft

(36:01):
that stood out to you? Yeah? Look, I think the Houston, Texans. UM.
You know, we talked about it at the top with
Stingley and Green as their first round picks, but I
really loved what they did on Day two. They went
with Jalen Peatrie, got some speed there at safety to
replace Justin Reid who ended up leaving. And then you
get John Metchi kind of add into, you know, as
maybe a little bit more of you like your middle
of the field receiver. You got Nico Collins last year,
a little bit of the physical, big, bigger body guy.

(36:23):
And then you already got the Speedsters extending Brandon Cook,
so I think it's a contract extension for the first
time in his career. UM, So, I thought that was nice.
Then Christian Harris upgrades that the athleticism at linebacker, because
remember Zach Cunningham, they just straight up cut in the
middle of the season last year, and so he kind
of fills that void. I even really liked Damian Pierce
bowling a China chop kind of running back there, and

(36:43):
he needed a little bit more in the run game production.
He had thirteen touchdowns, had more rushing yards against that
that stout Georgia defense than any running back did in
this entire draft, so I think that really helps him
in the fourth round. Thomas Booker is a guy who
we kind of liked as a solid smart player. Uh
to be up there on the defensive line, you know,
maybe on the interior there for love you Smith there
in the fifth round. So I thought they did real good.
If I could just give you a quick honorable mention

(37:06):
for a Tina didn't have a first round pick that
I thought did really well. Three of my favorite players
go to the Indianapolis Colts with Alec Pierce, Gilani Woods
to tight end in Bernard Ryman a tackle. Yeah, they
and if you look at all the athletics scores in
terms of take big time they got they you know
that's something Chris powers into you think about the traits
they got very athletic. Right, we're gonna take a quick
break and when we come back where to discussed the quarterbacks.

(37:26):
We had nine quarterbacks ago including Mr Irrelevant. So we'll
do it from twenty to sixty two where we had
the first in the last coming off right it for
this one, all, let's pick this back up. This is

(37:49):
Move the Sticks and NFL Inside Report little crossover podcast
production here for you as we wrap up the NFL
draft taking a look at the quarterbacks here and look
at it set all the records I guess in the
in the wrong way for quarterbacks, especially for me at
four going on the first round. Let's not thinking to
that did hit some of the team fits though they
just ended up getting the quarterbacks later. So the Pittsburgh Steelers,

(38:11):
we talked about that going to the with the pit
Panthers quarterback Ka Pickett. So we just goes to the
other side of the building there. That certainly fits. Let's
get into those third round guys, Ritter, Willis and Corral.
I mean, DJ, you gotta start with with the Falcon
selection of Ritter, who also had the guy you comped
him too on their roster. That's funny when that works
out that way. So and Ritter had actually even self
comped himself to Marcus Mariota, comped himself to Marcus Mariota. So, um,

(38:35):
and I think from from my brief time around Desmon
Ritter and haven't been around Marcus Mariota a little bit,
these guys are gonna compete. It's gonna be a good competition.
They're both great, great guys and uh and both guys
are just winners and and tough and love by their teammates.
So um, I think that's a that's an interesting pick
there for the Atlanta Falcons. Buck, I think he's he's

(38:56):
got a chance to get on the field this year.
I don't think he'll start the season, but I think
we're gonna see Desmond Ritter sometime this year. Really, do
I think we had a chances. Yeah, we're gonna get
a chance to evaluate him the year because they need
to find out. Look, he was a third round pick.
You're not like your big time heavily invested him. But
I would like to in a team that I don't
think it's winning anything this year. I would like to
know a little bit of what I got. You think
the third round status of all these guys take all

(39:17):
of the pressure off. There's no pressure. But in my mind,
I don't even think it's a competition. I don't even
think it's a competition. No, but but, but there's a
difference in saying it's not a competition and he's not
gonna play all year long when you want to look
at him a little bit, I mean, maybe it depends
on how we go. Maybe with some games you're not winning.
Marcus Mariota made let us to win games. And so
with that in mind, let's go to the next guy,
Malik Willis. And this is what I love about the

(39:38):
Malik Willis pick. There's no pressure to put him on
the field because Ryan Tanneil has played in the Pro
Bowl level before. Let's take the playoff game out of it,
and let's take the way that they kind of played
the season without Derrick Henry out of because it's too
much on him. You could potentially have an opportunity to
do with Malik Willis what they did with Steve McNair.
It took Steve McNair two years before he was able
to get on the field. Chris Standen was there at

(40:00):
the time, they fully red shirted, didn't reshirted him again.
But for he had an opportunity to play for Malik Willis.
It may be a long road before he gets onto
the field, but I can't think of a better situation,
a better mentor than Ryan Tannehill. In a scheme where
you have a run dominant uh fuel to it, I
think it's perfect. Yeah, I wonder if they aren't. If

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they're legitimately games and Titan schedule that they could say,
you know what, Tannehill, Whiteouts, get healthy. Take a week,
we're gonna start and we're going to run the ball
every clay and with our with our running game and
with him complimenting the running game and our defensive line,
we're good. It's like two extra buys, two extra buys

(40:46):
for the white Outs in the quarterbacks. Guys, just take
a break. Malik Milike, you give us twenty carries. Derek,
you give us twenty five carries. We're cooking with gas.
I mean, I look at Built Belichick did it with
Mac Jones last year. I know the weather dictated it
up in Buffalo, but yeah, you can see something like
that happening. And look, we talked about it with with Tennessee,
like you gonna have to make a call on Ryan
Tannehill next year. Like he's gonna be your starter this year.

(41:08):
We know that, but like you've got an out manageable
out in his in his contract next year, he's gonna
be thirty five years old, Like you're gonna pay him
in a forty mill per No, No, this is gonna
be this his last year. It just made sense. But
I mean, by the way I remember being in Baltimore
in those playoff games with Tennessee and with Eddie George
and Steve McNair. Oh my gosh, it's gonna look exactly
the same. Yeah, yeah, it's great. All right, I'll get

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to Matt Corral here, who was the third quarterback taken
in the third round. By the way, not necessarily a
surprise to not see these guys go in the first round.
The second round, I thought, right, all right, So anyway,
they all go in the third, almost all of them.
Rather so the Panthers come back up. They trade another
future pick to come back up at the tail end
of the third round and make Corral the overall pick.

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You had to you had to think. They love the release,
They love the competitiveness of him, They love some of
that toughness that we saw with him running the football.
And you know, now he's there with with Sam Donald.
You think that's a true competition, by the way, Uh no, out,
I don't think it will be. I think Sam will
be the guy. But correct me if I'm wrong. Didn't Corral?
I know he's committed to USC at one point time.
Did the timing because when he was younger, say if

(42:14):
he committed as a sophomore. Wouldn't that have been Sam
sc at that time? It might have been he was committed.
I thought he was. He was committed, he went he
went through a bunch of different things. But yeah, they're
both from out here. They know. I'm sure they actually
think once again, I think it's another great situation. I
think one situation for Sam. I would like to see
him go into a situation where, look, people say, like
he's a kid who's gotten a million lives. But let's

(42:35):
go into the situation where it's clear and apparent that
he is. They gave him a tackle to trying to
help him up front. They have Christian McCaffrey coming back.
Let's see if he can be what people thought he
was because remember he was drafted very high. Give him
every girl to be that player. And then with McCarrell,
I think it's a nice developmental situation. There's no pressure
to put him on the field. Um yeah, I like it.
I like the way he looks. I mean, maybe the

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biggest headscratcher of all of him was Belichick going back
to back rookie quarterbacks fairly early. With Bailey's happy as
the thirty second pick of the Worth round now joining
Mac Jones. They Trafton last year. Kind of very similar
in terms of you know, mental um, you know Acuty
there the way that they can process things. But my
comp for Zappy, by the way, was Chase daniel Based.

(43:17):
Daniels still playing in this league a long time. He's
Bailey's Appy will have a longer. I don't think he's
gonna be a starter personally. I think can get you
out of a game here. Maybe starting was probably on
the back end. That's the thing. And the other thing
there was a little bit of a president with the
Patriot because remember they to Jacoby Brissette, they came right
back into Jimmy Garoppolo. Yeah, and so they do it
with these young quarterbacks. And if he never develops into

(43:38):
being a starter, but he is their long term backup,
it is well worth it. Mac Jones has played well,
but this guy we were talking about trying to find
someone who was a pastor who's efficient. If I was
playing flag football, this would be my all time If
there's anybody app if you're in the I mean think
about the way Mac plays now. Max way more talented,
but he's a completion collector. Yeah, and that's what Bailey's
appy is seven picks later. Both trained with the same guy, right, yeah,

(44:01):
with David Morris, so they know each other. They trained
with each other again this you know, this trap process
and Bailey, alright, that one shot. Guys, that was the
big If you told me of all the quarterbacks where
they went, who they went to. He told me Sam
how it was going to be in the fifth round.
I said, You're no way, There's no way. And we
can talk about this quarterback class being underwhelming and it's down.

(44:22):
It's not what he's been. A dude should have gone.
That's disrespectful, disrespect, disrespect. They treated the quarterbacks as if
they were this one he could play. I can argue
you could play this year. I can argue the other ones. Okay,
value where they got him, I can I get it.
Sam Howell, he hi, come on man, Yeah, so but
come on. But the situation for him is actually pretty

(44:42):
good because you don't have an opportunity. He's an upgrade
over Tyheky. He gives them a chance to kind of
develop and kind of figured out. And look, he goes
in as a fifth round pick. He has to kind
of play and fight his way out of that quarterback situation.
But we'll see. Yeah, all right, the last three anybody
interested with Old will Coon, Skyler Thompson, Brock Purty, guys
pretty as a competitor, Like I like that dude, like

(45:04):
he he was with us at the Shrine Bowl. So
was Skyler Thompson? Is Mr Irrelevant? Why not? By the way,
I almost felt bad at the end because I said
on the air, I said, it is kind of ironic
that a quarterback irrelevant because it just that's what this
draft was this year. And that showed us. I mean,
and Buck, I give I give Bucky a lot of credit. Man,
you caught all kinds of heck you did no quarterbacks

(45:24):
in the first round, and people said you're crazy darn
near right man, And so that this is what the
league thought. I was quarterbacks this year. But I feel
like we birdly are we not gonna say anything about
the steel was drafting two quarterbacks in the draft? Oh yeah,
they pulled the Washington commit. They pulled the Washington thing, right, cousins. Yeah,
Kirkin r G three and then come back with Oladkin

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to join pick it at two forty one. So now
the Steelers will have Mason Rudolph and they'll have uh,
they'll have rabisky and they'll have picket and uh Oladkin
so qb old Dokan is not gonna get a lot
of reps, guys. Yeah, but practice squad and let's go. Yeah.
Um So anyway, it was alright, anything else you guys

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want to add before we get out of here. This
was fun. By the way, thanks to everybody, uh for
hanging with us through this whole run up. I mean
we've had We've had so much fun with not only
doing the Move the Sticks audio pod which been a
TV show which we were able to carry all the
way through the draft was really cool, which was really cool,
doing path, doing Mock Draft Weekly, Mock Draft Live, what

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do we call that thing? Mock Draft Live? There you go. Um.
So it's been so much stuff that we've been doing,
and you guys have been great to hang with us
this whole time. I do want to give a special
shout out to the Bile because it's kind of a
lot to to juggle. I don't know if you get
I don't know if you get notice, but like we
got we know, like was on the Saturday Pod Saturday,
it was he was a star. He he was what, oh,
you didn't notice busy? So it wasna bible Ritt was

(46:51):
busy to wing his duty, said Bill, and I chopped
it up. He jumped in, and so we did a
thirty minute podcast. We did a thirty minute podcast. They
were supposed to be on the leak, and we spent
twenty five minutes talking about the packers and all the
nice I feel like a proud I feel like a
proud father. That should you should just watching him, just
watching him just grow up before our very eyes, like

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a proud father with a baby with a very full
head of hair ahead. He even went out and get
a brand new microphone for the event, did he? That's
what I'm talking about, you, Biel? How we doing? And
you got have you? Have? You already got offers? You
leaving us now? No, I'm good. Uh you know it's
those things soon Oreno, soon enough. The day is coming.
That day is coming. He's a rising star. Lace Bill.

(47:32):
All right, Hey, we're not We're not done here. What
another episode for you this week? And uh, we appreciate
you guys hanging with us. You want say they cross
over folks the NFL Inside Report, folks for for for
jumping along for the ride as well, trying to give
everybody just kind of those little insights, you know, with
we had Tom and Ian on earlier in the week
basically which we talked for about thirty minutes trying to

(47:53):
find Tom hellasera WiFi in Las Vegas. So that's just
the kind of stuff that we give you each and
every week um over on NFL Inside Report. But yeah,
this was the perfect place for us to do a
little crossover, um you know, bring the move to stay
fans over the NFL Inside Report side and back, you know,
vice versa. Well, I feel like we've tried to give
you guys stuff, so we're gonna turn around ask you
to give us something if you can go into the
comments on Apple Podcasts. We're getting ready enter to the

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off season. We've done a lot of different things during
the offseason. Buck. We love diving into some leadership stuff
without talking to coaches in different sports. Any ideas you
have for us for offseason content that you guys would
be interested in, drop it in the comments there on
on Apple podcast and we'll see what we see what
we can do. Appreciate you boy, We'll see you next
time right here. On Move to six and NFL Inside Report.

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