March 1, 2025 • 22 mins
On this episode of Move the Sticks, Bucky Brooks, Rhett Lewis, and Lance Zierlein check in from the 2025 NFL Scouting Combine in Indianapolis to break down the top defensive backs and tight ends who took center stage during Friday’s drills and testing.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
And now Move the Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Hey friends, welcome back from Indianapolis. This is Move the
Sticks as we get set for day three of the
scouting combine on field workouts that we are looking back
for you today on day two, Ret Lewis, Bucky Brooks
lanm cert line back here for you. And you know,
I think this is the inappropriate way to begin the
conversation by telling you it is time for Hot or
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Speaker 3 (00:34):
When the bees got on the field Hot Buddy Hot, it.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Did not matter how big or small you were, because
they were putting up some fast times out there. And
I'm not I don't want toot the old horn, but
somebody on this set yesterday said Maxwell Harrison probably gonna
run the fastest forty time.
Speaker 4 (00:51):
Somebody said that, somebody said it, Oh really yeah, I
don't remember who do you guys?
Speaker 5 (00:55):
Remember?
Speaker 1 (00:55):
It doesn't matter who came from that side of the table,
this side, this side, fast guy, but that not the
fastest guy.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Four to eight are first and only four to forty
yard dash so far. The combine comes from Kentucky's Maxwell Harriston,
who was terrific on tape too, especially in twenty three
when he.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
Had the five picks.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
But let's talk about a few more guys who ran
a blazon fast forty time.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
Here, Buckle's stood out to you. I mean, look at
it one.
Speaker 4 (01:20):
Just overall group, just the athleticism that is in the
dB group continues to impress. And a lot of times
we talk about DB's as if they're second class citizens
when it comes to the wide receiver class.
Speaker 5 (01:32):
But dbs have talented athletes. I've told them.
Speaker 4 (01:34):
I like to talk about them as the Catholics, and
I think we saw a bunch of talented guys. You
can talk about Harriston, we can talk about barn we
can talk about so many guys that have great tape
and great athleticism that they put on display and whether
they worked out or not doing the drills. To me,
the the the measurement portion of the event allowed us
to have some of the sizzle that we all covet
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when we come to this combine.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
Right and you know they're getting awhere. You know you're
starting to have to split hairs. Well, okay, this guy's fast,
but how did he jump? You know, when you're just no.
Once again, that's only this is just the athletic portion
of it. But then you go, well, what do you
look like in the drills? And there were some guys
that ran fast that did not look good in the drills.
So you know, there's a big difference between being a
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guy who can run fast in a straight line and
being somebody who can get out of your brakes.
Speaker 6 (02:21):
Can you know, can can plant and drive quickly on.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
The throw because that's where you get your your ball production,
that's where you break passes up. It's it's it's great
that you can run fast, but can you play football?
Speaker 6 (02:33):
So there is a combination.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
The underwear Olympics thing is is something that sometimes annoys
me because there's way more than that here at the
at the at the combine. But it is interesting to
see the speed, then the explosiveness, and then the.
Speaker 5 (02:47):
Football movement and you get all three of them, and you.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Want guys like Maxwell Harriston checked all three boxes, I thought.
Jacob Parrish from Kansas State, Jacob Parrish ran really really fast.
He had a four to three five, He had a
thirty seven and half ins vertical leap and a ten
to nine broad jump check check and then you know,
I mean I already know watching him on his tape.
He is a really fluid mover. He is a guy
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who is going to move up. He'll be a second
round cornerback in this draft. So there's some guys that
helped himself. There were a few guys that would be
on the knot side for me who maybe uh raised
more questions than I had coming in. All of a sudden,
I got new questions.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Well, I think you could say, you know, hot on
the track guy like Darby blew it upby blowing it
up over here with Darian Porter, right, the converted wide
receiver in a corner he struggled a little bit at
the Senior Bowl. Yeah, yeah, and looking but he's still
very young in his cornerback line.
Speaker 5 (03:41):
It's weird because he's played six years. Yeah, but he's
only played one year at cornerback.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
So it's like, so I got this six year guy
who's raw at the position.
Speaker 5 (03:50):
What do I do with that?
Speaker 1 (03:51):
Well, he's a phenomenal athlete, but you know it's saving
grace is he's a.
Speaker 5 (03:54):
Star on special teams, a star.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
Well, it's fine block kicks.
Speaker 5 (03:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (03:59):
The other thing about like a six year player but
only one year at the position. Developmental teams will still
cover someone who has those tools, and you'll see if
you can convert them. It does hope that he is
a standout special teamer because at least we talk about
on Sundays, can he get a jersey? Can he find
a way onto the act of rossa to be able
to get in games? And if he gets in games
as a special teamer, there's an opportunity for him to
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get in game as a player. And as long as
he can continue the show, improve it and practice over
the long call, those two will certainly make him a very,
very coveted prospect on the board.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Now, I will say hot conversations I had down there
on the field as kind of walking around after the
forties watching guys two drills. Marquee Siegel from Kansas State
runs four to three seven, and some of the team
scouts that I was talking to, it's like, I might
have to go back and see if that four to
three seven shows up watching the tape a little bit.
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So those are kind of some of the things that
happen here. By the way, we had a couple of
guys run ten yards split. It's sub one five which
is really getting out of your stands, right. We talk
about that a lot with the edge rushers, and that
was Darien Porter at one four nine. And then probably
the hottest draft profile right now, after two days of
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work at the combine, Nick Emnori from South Carolina four
three eight forty one four nine ten yard split, forty
three inches on the vertical at six foot three and
two hundred and twenty pounds. You guys have the floor
on the South Carolina stud well.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
I mean like, look, even though he didn't do the
on field stuff or whatever, like his tape is pretty good.
When you see him in South Carolina, you see him
make a ton of plays on the ball.
Speaker 5 (05:40):
He can hit, run and cover, which you love.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
You now come and see the athleticism you talk about,
the forty three inch vertical, the ridiculous broad jump, the
one four nine ten split.
Speaker 5 (05:50):
On a four to three eight forty yard dash. He's everything.
Speaker 4 (05:53):
And then when you see him walk through like an
Adonnas in terms of the way that he's built, you
started to have these comparisons that don't makes sense.
Speaker 5 (06:01):
A super explosive Cam Chancellor, a more.
Speaker 4 (06:04):
Dynamic Derwin James, a defensive freak show like DK Metcalf,
whatever you want to put out there.
Speaker 5 (06:10):
When you stand in front of your.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
Fellow scouts and you read the report, there are a
lot of things that you're gonna like. And now the conversation,
as we love to talk about mock drafting and those things,
where does he go? Like is he fifteen to twenty five?
Now where we're talking about as a prospect, where.
Speaker 5 (06:27):
Is he coming off the boards?
Speaker 3 (06:28):
Like?
Speaker 5 (06:29):
Yeah, I mean look like that.
Speaker 4 (06:30):
I love Malachi Sparks, but one of the things that
the combine does when you have similar grades and we
all had similar grades between Starks and Emanuel Warrior coming in, Well,
now the knot goes to the great athlete, right, So
where does he come off the board?
Speaker 5 (06:44):
How high can he go?
Speaker 1 (06:46):
I think a lot of that really depends on how
teams view him. Like, you know, the reality is the
one knock on him to me is that the motor's
not always running hot. Like he has a chance to
come downhill and just be a killer as a hitter,
and he at that size and he doesn't always do it,
but then when he wants to, he dominates. So you know,
you don't love that he can turn it off and
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on but then when you talk about his ability to
so that's the question you always ask, does he have
the ability to do this?
Speaker 5 (07:12):
He has the ability to play in the slot.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
He has the ability to play over the top because
he has speed and instincts and yeah, and he can
play down low, so he can play three safety spots.
Speaker 6 (07:24):
He schemed diverse. He can play the big tight ends.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
He can play the past catching tight ends, you know,
both versions of tight ends. Like when you have a
guy who's that scheme versatile with those kind of traits,
I mean I would say, Bucky, he's going to get
pushed really high.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
I'm looking dolphins at thirteen? Is that too hot?
Speaker 6 (07:45):
I don't think it's I mean, ballor loves traits.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
Yeah, And he said this is fourteen Okay, Yeah, I
mean I don't know if it gets passing fourteen.
Speaker 5 (07:54):
And that's actually a need he could use the safety.
The conversation becomes interesting because of the dynamic edicism.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
Did he displayed Normally, when you see someone who's a
freak athlete like that, you don't have real solid tape
to back it up.
Speaker 5 (08:07):
Yeah, but his tape, yeah, really lives you to like
him a lot.
Speaker 4 (08:10):
There was a conversation about him being the number one
rank safety before we even got a chance to see
him work out. Now it makes it easy to flip
those spots between starts and.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
Ooh boy, I mean falcons at fifteen two, he.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Can't get past the middle of the draft, Like it's
just he's not getting to the second held. A twenty before,
I would have put him in a second half. But
now this is one of these things where he's inside
the top sixteen to me. But you know, it's funny
because no one had any doubts, Like everyone was just.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
Here to just see one.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Yeah, what will the numbers be? You already knew the
numbers were going to be great. He was on Bruce
Feltman's freak list.
Speaker 5 (08:45):
And all the numbers were had an idea.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
You already knew he was going forty plus vert and
he was probably gonna go sub for four.
Speaker 5 (08:51):
But once you see it, it's different.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
You know, once you see it, you're like and then
standing on the field, rret you were down there, I
don't know if you were buck, but standing next to
him you realize, oh no, this looks like a linebacker.
Speaker 5 (09:01):
Do this like this guy is for real, for real.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
It's another one that I would throw out at you
Lance and see what what what you had had you
know in your report on him coming out here. Caleb
Ransaw from two lane four three, three forty forty on
the vert ten to nine on the broad. I thought
he had some good moments in mobile as well, especially
in the game. I think he came up with an
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interception in the game. He's making some plays in the
football kid from two lane that followed John Somemral from
Troy to two lane and felt like, you know, stepping
up in a little bit of competition on that front
and handled himself pretty well.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
Yeah, he's he's a big nickel who supports the run,
but he's got really really good speed, as you alluded to,
very very competitive. I think he could play nickel or safety.
You know, he's the big nickel now has turned into
just nickel. He just caught big nickel.
Speaker 5 (09:54):
Now's just this is what seems like to do.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
You think, well, that's a matchup problem. You're not gonna
be able to guard those fast guys out of the slot.
Just guard him long enough is all you have to do.
And there's just just more advantages to being able to
rough people up from the slot and support the run.
But I think he can play all over the place,
and to me, he was like a very good backup
to eventual starter type.
Speaker 6 (10:16):
And now I think he's.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
Pushed himself to the top of that list, you know,
when you're stacking him.
Speaker 5 (10:20):
Sure, I'm gonna stack him higher.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
I had a sixty one three, so now the stack
is going to go to about a six one nine,
meaning he's right on the cusp, but turning it into
a six to two zero, which is going to be
an NFL starter and I may eventually put him there.
I'm gonna go back and watch him again because I'm
reading my ride up. I likes I liked him. I
definitely liked him. Maybe this uh, this number was a
little else.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Yeah, yeah, any other names that you want to get
out there on the DVS before we move on.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
To the tight ends.
Speaker 4 (10:46):
I mean, so many, so many good guys that have
showed up. We've talked about some. What about the Thomas
kid from Florida State just showing up and doing some
of the stuff and injury like Azari just being able
to show because he only has two career interceptions. He's
presban corner, so watching him go through the Gonela drill,
seeing if you can catch and do those things, some
of the movement skilled stuff.
Speaker 5 (11:05):
There are people that buzz about him being a first
round pick. Oh he is.
Speaker 4 (11:09):
He is definitely one that is squarely in the conversation.
We've already talked about Man, we talked about Porter. They're
just some really good guys in this class. Harrison, we've
talked about. I think we're just gonna come away saying
that the cornerback group is really really solid. The slot
cornerback group with Parish and all those guys that were
playing there.
Speaker 5 (11:27):
We'll talk more about that.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
And then Trey Amos from Ole Miss Yahood running night
really really solid in the four fours.
Speaker 5 (11:34):
You like some of those things.
Speaker 4 (11:35):
So I think I feel better about this group, particularly
as we talk about the top fifty, the top sixty selections.
Speaker 5 (11:41):
We can have that traditional run of cornerbacks that will go.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
Another guy that kept showing up at Mobile was Billy
Bowman from Oklahoma.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
About him, thought he ran a really nice time at
four four to two and.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Then smaller, so you got to be fast. But he is,
he's got crazy instincts.
Speaker 5 (11:55):
He is.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
I mean, that guy plays like the motor just is stuck.
The throw was stuck for him because he can't slow down.
Speaker 5 (12:02):
He is all gas.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
So further down the line, justin Wally from Minnesota. You know,
missed some time last year for the Ghosts, but when
he came back, he helped kick off with I believe
was a five game win streak from Minnesota. Started with
a big upset over USC at home. He ends up
running in the four fours. I thought it was a
pretty good time there. Another guy that I liked from
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seeing him in person. So just a bunch of names
there from the from the dB group that kind of
stood out to us. A lot more that we'll get
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that were on the field here day two of the
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Scouty Combine all right back with you here on Move
the Sticks re at Lewis Bucky Brooks, Lance zerline talking
tight ends And by the way, if you were wondering yet,
Travis Hunter did not come out here with the defensive
backs and participate. Will Johnson kind of the same, So
you know, that's why we didn't mention those names there
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with the defensive backs. Kind of similar situation with the
tight ends. Top two guys in the class, we're not
out here working out Tyler Warren and then also Colston Lovelin.
We also didn't see, you know, two of the other
top tight ends actually run the forty Mason Taylor from LSU,
Elijah Royo from Miami. We did see Taylor out there
in the on field workouts, Bucky, What stood out to
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you about the tight end group?
Speaker 4 (13:30):
No, Well, I think about Taylor and he is the
one that I had right on that borderline and shows
of my top five he obviously be in at the
next time around. But watching him go through drills, he
is the prototypical y tight end that you always look for,
the guy that can.
Speaker 5 (13:44):
Line up and do everything inline blocking.
Speaker 4 (13:47):
When you saw him moving the bags, it moved differently
to some of the other things, like he did not
have the struggles that some of them did when it
came to explosive online blocking movement.
Speaker 5 (13:57):
And then as a pass catcher, how easy it is
for him to catch. It's swell running. How smooth he is?
Speaker 2 (14:02):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (14:02):
To me, he's just one of those solid all around
wide tight ends they can play for a long time
in this league.
Speaker 5 (14:08):
Yeah, I thought he looked great out there.
Speaker 6 (14:10):
I mean, I can't wait to see how he test,
but I already know he's gonna run well.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
And and I thought he looked really smooth out in space.
Has has a separating gear. I think he's gonna get
pushed up. I think the first two tight ends come
off the board inside the first you know, twelve thirteen picks,
and then there's gonna be somebody who says, you know,
once it gets it's gonna get to Because Gunner Helm
did not help himself yesterday from University of Texas, So
I don't know how you stack it, but I know
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that I think Mason Taylor will probably be the third
guy off.
Speaker 5 (14:37):
But because because Fanning Junior didn't run fast. Now he doesn't.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
But I thought he was one of the winners of
the field workout. But he doesn't block, Yeah.
Speaker 5 (14:45):
So terrific. He's he's just a pass catcher.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
So if you're gonna just be a pass catcher, you
gotta you want to see a little more juice.
Speaker 5 (14:52):
So that's that's one of the things.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
I think Mason Taylor's a third and it's going to
be a matter of we really need a tight end
and this dude can play, Let's go up and get him.
Like it wouldn't shock me if maybe a sneaky third
tight end got into the first round. Yeah, with Mason Taylor,
because I'm not sure a third quarterback gets into the
first round.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
So coming back, but I mean a nice spot for
the City thirty one.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
Oh, I mean mess around and let them get a
replacement for Kelse Right, I'm sure they'll take a look
at that.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
C J.
Speaker 6 (15:19):
Dupree had a really nice workout for Alabama.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
He's a guy that that I think helped himself a
little bit yesterday as you and.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
I were standing while they were doing another piece of
the testing, which we don't talk about a whole lot.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
Which was flexibility.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
So they'll kind of you know, anybody's ever you know,
sat down and done a hamstring stretch where you get
the you know, your legs out in the v right
and then you're trying to reach for your legs. But
what they do here is they you cross the elbows
and then they try to see how close you can
get your elbows to the ground and then measure that space.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
Yeah, they got a yardstick off the ground and they
see how they get way low and they see how
many inches off the ground you are. And I know
there was Evans from Notre Dame was like eight and
a half inches off, which is low. There's another guy
I won't say who it is, was like eighteen and
a half.
Speaker 5 (16:05):
I just thought that's me, but that's me.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
Yeah, but depri was I mean those elbows went right
to the feet, over the top on the kind of
that low back puck.
Speaker 5 (16:14):
You talk about them for a second.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
So you know, we talk about flexion, but this is
something that's never discussed. I saw the force plate measurements
that are out there, which is something new that's not
gonna the public isn't really going to see that or
get those measurements. And I talked to one of the
guys who is running it, But can you talk about
the flexibility test because it's.
Speaker 5 (16:32):
Not just for tight ends. They're doing this for everyone, right.
Speaker 4 (16:34):
Yeah, because you want to see that like some of
this is like you're trying to get the predictors of
guys that could have injury issues because they're tight.
Speaker 5 (16:43):
They can't move all of that other stuff.
Speaker 4 (16:45):
Like when we talk about athleticism, flexibility has to be
a big part of it.
Speaker 5 (16:48):
No almots the big stiff athlete, and you only.
Speaker 4 (16:51):
Know as they get older they're not going to become
more flexible. And so you're trying to get that baseline
testing under way, but you do like to see guys
that can be in Think about all the conversations that
we had with the big guys that are dancing bears
and how nimble they are and those things.
Speaker 5 (17:05):
Yeah, so the flexibility certainly matters.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
Okay, let's give some credit to some of the testing
monsters from the tight end group. I'll just run through
that quickly. Luke Lasche Colston Lovelin were the tallest that
over six foot five. And then we had Terrence Ferguson
run the fastest forty, A guy I feel like has
some real high level potential in his frame and in
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his production in his game. He was a very valuable
target there at Oregon. I want to see it just
a little bit more edged. His game four to six
three on the forty was the fastest we saw. Thomas
Faedoni had some of the biggest measurements, longest arms, biggest hands.
From Nebraska. He was the number one tight end in
the country coming out of high school and then had
kind of an injury plagued early part of his career
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and but but then became a bigger piece of the nebraity.
Speaker 5 (17:55):
Forence Charms like you said, that's that's tackle size.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
And then jump broad you ten foot six, which was
the longest of the group. Rondi Gatson, who has NFL blood,
showed up with a thirty nine inch vert. But I
wanted to ask you about our friend who did not
have the fastest forty yard dash time, but did have
perhaps the most intriguing headshot, and that is Robbie Oots
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from Alabama.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
Go ahead, Lance Well.
Speaker 5 (18:23):
So I looked at I watched him play.
Speaker 6 (18:27):
Yeah, he's a burly guy.
Speaker 5 (18:29):
Well muscles, muscles on muscles.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
Then I saw his his picture and he's got the
he's got a full on must there there is there's
a Kenny Powers look.
Speaker 5 (18:40):
And I was like, man, this guy.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
And so I spent about twenty five minutes trying to
come up with a description because I need to tell
people who this guy is.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
You need to tell me.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
And I'm like, and I am working through and I'm like,
this guy working like this is like a grown man
with three kids type of look. Yes, like that works
a hard job. So I'm searching for the tough jobs
and I'm google search is stuff I should not like.
Why am I doing? I've got players to write, And
I got into this rabbit hole of who this guy
is and I came up with I said, you know
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he is. He's like an iron worker with a squad
rack in his garage and he's out there hitting that.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
Rack wow, before going to work, before after he gets
back from work.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
Yeah, with a beverage exactly like he is a blue collar.
He's got a blue collar body type. He's physical, he's aggressive.
It's funny. He didn't run fast, but when you watch him,
he plays with short hair explosiveness.
Speaker 6 (19:36):
It just can't maintain. Like, my guess is his ten
yard time?
Speaker 1 (19:39):
I haven't even look. I bet his ten yards not decent.
But it it tails off. We can't hang out to
the speed buck. We can we can get the gass going, yeah,
we can get the gas going on.
Speaker 6 (19:49):
We're not I'm not trying to play thirty and.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
Four down the scene to run a full you know,
turns out of safety a forty yard.
Speaker 5 (19:56):
Now he is an NFL fallback.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
He'll be he'll be on a team, and he'll probably
get pretty good reps as an NFL fullback. But when
you're seeing him like he is, he looks like striking.
He looks like he played at Penn State in the
in the eighties.
Speaker 5 (20:10):
Bucky, that's what he looks like.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
If he just put just a little bit of a
neck roll on to me, I would raise him a
full two rounds.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
One of my favorites in the class also, you know,
was not like at the way top end of any
of the testing, but I thought moved really well and
has some good tape. Is Maliki Matavaal from UCLA. Trying
to think of some of the other guys that kind
of stood out on this one again we mentioned Terrence
or Tyler Warren and Colson Lovelin did not get out
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there on the.
Speaker 5 (20:38):
Field workout on the field.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
He was actually I thought he had some good hands.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
So he's got like he's interesting. In Arizona State, he
played some quarterback.
Speaker 6 (20:49):
They had him.
Speaker 5 (20:49):
As a he's like five of six throwing.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
They used him as a as a Wildcat quarterback. He
would run, he would hand off, and he would throw
some like he was a really really interesting athlete. He
went from Arizona State to Texas Tech. You know, the
buzz on him up in the stands from some of
the scouts. Was not a guy who lived in the
weight room necessarily. You know, some of the stuff about
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getting after it and grinding. If he does that in
the NFL, watch out and all of a sudden he's
got the athleticism. You know, if that work ethic kicks in,
that's that's something to keep an eye on.
Speaker 5 (21:22):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
And then never discount the Iowa tight ends, right, Lucy,
We'll find a way, right, We'll find a way. So
there's just a look at some of the tight ends
and defensive backs that were out on the field from
day two of the combine. We'll get back with you
tomorrow for a recap of what look in most years
is the main event, right quarterbacks, wide receivers, tight ends.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
We're getting ready for that today. We'll have that recap
for you.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
Coming up tomorrow on move the sticks from Lancerline, Bucky
Brooks I and Red Lewis.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
Thanks much being with us.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
We'll catch you next time, right here, I'll move the sticks.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
Compet
And now Move the Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Hey friends, welcome back from Indianapolis. This is Move the
Sticks as we get set for day three of the
scouting combine on field workouts that we are looking back
for you today on day two, Ret Lewis, Bucky Brooks
lanm cert line back here for you. And you know,
I think this is the inappropriate way to begin the
conversation by telling you it is time for Hot or
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Not presented by Wasabi Hot Cloud Storage that track.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
When the bees got on the field Hot Buddy Hot, it.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Did not matter how big or small you were, because
they were putting up some fast times out there. And
I'm not I don't want toot the old horn, but
somebody on this set yesterday said Maxwell Harrison probably gonna
run the fastest forty time.
Speaker 4 (00:51):
Somebody said that, somebody said it, Oh really yeah, I
don't remember who do you guys?
Speaker 5 (00:55):
Remember?
Speaker 1 (00:55):
It doesn't matter who came from that side of the table,
this side, this side, fast guy, but that not the
fastest guy.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Four to eight are first and only four to forty
yard dash so far. The combine comes from Kentucky's Maxwell Harriston,
who was terrific on tape too, especially in twenty three
when he.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
Had the five picks.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
But let's talk about a few more guys who ran
a blazon fast forty time.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
Here, Buckle's stood out to you. I mean, look at
it one.
Speaker 4 (01:20):
Just overall group, just the athleticism that is in the
dB group continues to impress. And a lot of times
we talk about DB's as if they're second class citizens
when it comes to the wide receiver class.
Speaker 5 (01:32):
But dbs have talented athletes. I've told them.
Speaker 4 (01:34):
I like to talk about them as the Catholics, and
I think we saw a bunch of talented guys. You
can talk about Harriston, we can talk about barn we
can talk about so many guys that have great tape
and great athleticism that they put on display and whether
they worked out or not doing the drills. To me,
the the the measurement portion of the event allowed us
to have some of the sizzle that we all covet
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when we come to this combine.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
Right and you know they're getting awhere. You know you're
starting to have to split hairs. Well, okay, this guy's fast,
but how did he jump? You know, when you're just no.
Once again, that's only this is just the athletic portion
of it. But then you go, well, what do you
look like in the drills? And there were some guys
that ran fast that did not look good in the drills.
So you know, there's a big difference between being a
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guy who can run fast in a straight line and
being somebody who can get out of your brakes.
Speaker 6 (02:21):
Can you know, can can plant and drive quickly on.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
The throw because that's where you get your your ball production,
that's where you break passes up. It's it's it's great
that you can run fast, but can you play football?
Speaker 6 (02:33):
So there is a combination.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
The underwear Olympics thing is is something that sometimes annoys
me because there's way more than that here at the
at the at the combine. But it is interesting to
see the speed, then the explosiveness, and then the.
Speaker 5 (02:47):
Football movement and you get all three of them, and you.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Want guys like Maxwell Harriston checked all three boxes, I thought.
Jacob Parrish from Kansas State, Jacob Parrish ran really really fast.
He had a four to three five, He had a
thirty seven and half ins vertical leap and a ten
to nine broad jump check check and then you know,
I mean I already know watching him on his tape.
He is a really fluid mover. He is a guy
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who is going to move up. He'll be a second
round cornerback in this draft. So there's some guys that
helped himself. There were a few guys that would be
on the knot side for me who maybe uh raised
more questions than I had coming in. All of a sudden,
I got new questions.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Well, I think you could say, you know, hot on
the track guy like Darby blew it upby blowing it
up over here with Darian Porter, right, the converted wide
receiver in a corner he struggled a little bit at
the Senior Bowl. Yeah, yeah, and looking but he's still
very young in his cornerback line.
Speaker 5 (03:41):
It's weird because he's played six years. Yeah, but he's
only played one year at cornerback.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
So it's like, so I got this six year guy
who's raw at the position.
Speaker 5 (03:50):
What do I do with that?
Speaker 1 (03:51):
Well, he's a phenomenal athlete, but you know it's saving
grace is he's a.
Speaker 5 (03:54):
Star on special teams, a star.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
Well, it's fine block kicks.
Speaker 5 (03:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (03:59):
The other thing about like a six year player but
only one year at the position. Developmental teams will still
cover someone who has those tools, and you'll see if
you can convert them. It does hope that he is
a standout special teamer because at least we talk about
on Sundays, can he get a jersey? Can he find
a way onto the act of rossa to be able
to get in games? And if he gets in games
as a special teamer, there's an opportunity for him to
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get in game as a player. And as long as
he can continue the show, improve it and practice over
the long call, those two will certainly make him a very,
very coveted prospect on the board.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Now, I will say hot conversations I had down there
on the field as kind of walking around after the
forties watching guys two drills. Marquee Siegel from Kansas State
runs four to three seven, and some of the team
scouts that I was talking to, it's like, I might
have to go back and see if that four to
three seven shows up watching the tape a little bit.
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So those are kind of some of the things that
happen here. By the way, we had a couple of
guys run ten yards split. It's sub one five which
is really getting out of your stands, right. We talk
about that a lot with the edge rushers, and that
was Darien Porter at one four nine. And then probably
the hottest draft profile right now, after two days of
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work at the combine, Nick Emnori from South Carolina four
three eight forty one four nine ten yard split, forty
three inches on the vertical at six foot three and
two hundred and twenty pounds. You guys have the floor
on the South Carolina stud well.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
I mean like, look, even though he didn't do the
on field stuff or whatever, like his tape is pretty good.
When you see him in South Carolina, you see him
make a ton of plays on the ball.
Speaker 5 (05:40):
He can hit, run and cover, which you love.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
You now come and see the athleticism you talk about,
the forty three inch vertical, the ridiculous broad jump, the
one four nine ten split.
Speaker 5 (05:50):
On a four to three eight forty yard dash. He's everything.
Speaker 4 (05:53):
And then when you see him walk through like an
Adonnas in terms of the way that he's built, you
started to have these comparisons that don't makes sense.
Speaker 5 (06:01):
A super explosive Cam Chancellor, a more.
Speaker 4 (06:04):
Dynamic Derwin James, a defensive freak show like DK Metcalf,
whatever you want to put out there.
Speaker 5 (06:10):
When you stand in front of your.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
Fellow scouts and you read the report, there are a
lot of things that you're gonna like. And now the conversation,
as we love to talk about mock drafting and those things,
where does he go? Like is he fifteen to twenty five?
Now where we're talking about as a prospect, where.
Speaker 5 (06:27):
Is he coming off the boards?
Speaker 3 (06:28):
Like?
Speaker 5 (06:29):
Yeah, I mean look like that.
Speaker 4 (06:30):
I love Malachi Sparks, but one of the things that
the combine does when you have similar grades and we
all had similar grades between Starks and Emanuel Warrior coming in, Well,
now the knot goes to the great athlete, right, So
where does he come off the board?
Speaker 5 (06:44):
How high can he go?
Speaker 1 (06:46):
I think a lot of that really depends on how
teams view him. Like, you know, the reality is the
one knock on him to me is that the motor's
not always running hot. Like he has a chance to
come downhill and just be a killer as a hitter,
and he at that size and he doesn't always do it,
but then when he wants to, he dominates. So you know,
you don't love that he can turn it off and
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on but then when you talk about his ability to
so that's the question you always ask, does he have
the ability to do this?
Speaker 5 (07:12):
He has the ability to play in the slot.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
He has the ability to play over the top because
he has speed and instincts and yeah, and he can
play down low, so he can play three safety spots.
Speaker 6 (07:24):
He schemed diverse. He can play the big tight ends.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
He can play the past catching tight ends, you know,
both versions of tight ends. Like when you have a
guy who's that scheme versatile with those kind of traits,
I mean I would say, Bucky, he's going to get
pushed really high.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
I'm looking dolphins at thirteen? Is that too hot?
Speaker 6 (07:45):
I don't think it's I mean, ballor loves traits.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
Yeah, And he said this is fourteen Okay, Yeah, I
mean I don't know if it gets passing fourteen.
Speaker 5 (07:54):
And that's actually a need he could use the safety.
The conversation becomes interesting because of the dynamic edicism.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
Did he displayed Normally, when you see someone who's a
freak athlete like that, you don't have real solid tape
to back it up.
Speaker 5 (08:07):
Yeah, but his tape, yeah, really lives you to like
him a lot.
Speaker 4 (08:10):
There was a conversation about him being the number one
rank safety before we even got a chance to see
him work out. Now it makes it easy to flip
those spots between starts and.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
Ooh boy, I mean falcons at fifteen two, he.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Can't get past the middle of the draft, Like it's
just he's not getting to the second held. A twenty before,
I would have put him in a second half. But
now this is one of these things where he's inside
the top sixteen to me. But you know, it's funny
because no one had any doubts, Like everyone was just.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
Here to just see one.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Yeah, what will the numbers be? You already knew the
numbers were going to be great. He was on Bruce
Feltman's freak list.
Speaker 5 (08:45):
And all the numbers were had an idea.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
You already knew he was going forty plus vert and
he was probably gonna go sub for four.
Speaker 5 (08:51):
But once you see it, it's different.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
You know, once you see it, you're like and then
standing on the field, rret you were down there, I
don't know if you were buck, but standing next to
him you realize, oh no, this looks like a linebacker.
Speaker 5 (09:01):
Do this like this guy is for real, for real.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
It's another one that I would throw out at you
Lance and see what what what you had had you
know in your report on him coming out here. Caleb
Ransaw from two lane four three, three forty forty on
the vert ten to nine on the broad. I thought
he had some good moments in mobile as well, especially
in the game. I think he came up with an
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interception in the game. He's making some plays in the
football kid from two lane that followed John Somemral from
Troy to two lane and felt like, you know, stepping
up in a little bit of competition on that front
and handled himself pretty well.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
Yeah, he's he's a big nickel who supports the run,
but he's got really really good speed, as you alluded to,
very very competitive. I think he could play nickel or safety.
You know, he's the big nickel now has turned into
just nickel. He just caught big nickel.
Speaker 5 (09:54):
Now's just this is what seems like to do.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
You think, well, that's a matchup problem. You're not gonna
be able to guard those fast guys out of the slot.
Just guard him long enough is all you have to do.
And there's just just more advantages to being able to
rough people up from the slot and support the run.
But I think he can play all over the place,
and to me, he was like a very good backup
to eventual starter type.
Speaker 6 (10:16):
And now I think he's.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
Pushed himself to the top of that list, you know,
when you're stacking him.
Speaker 5 (10:20):
Sure, I'm gonna stack him higher.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
I had a sixty one three, so now the stack
is going to go to about a six one nine,
meaning he's right on the cusp, but turning it into
a six to two zero, which is going to be
an NFL starter and I may eventually put him there.
I'm gonna go back and watch him again because I'm
reading my ride up. I likes I liked him. I
definitely liked him. Maybe this uh, this number was a
little else.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Yeah, yeah, any other names that you want to get
out there on the DVS before we move on.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
To the tight ends.
Speaker 4 (10:46):
I mean, so many, so many good guys that have
showed up. We've talked about some. What about the Thomas
kid from Florida State just showing up and doing some
of the stuff and injury like Azari just being able
to show because he only has two career interceptions. He's
presban corner, so watching him go through the Gonela drill,
seeing if you can catch and do those things, some
of the movement skilled stuff.
Speaker 5 (11:05):
There are people that buzz about him being a first
round pick. Oh he is.
Speaker 4 (11:09):
He is definitely one that is squarely in the conversation.
We've already talked about Man, we talked about Porter. They're
just some really good guys in this class. Harrison, we've
talked about. I think we're just gonna come away saying
that the cornerback group is really really solid. The slot
cornerback group with Parish and all those guys that were
playing there.
Speaker 5 (11:27):
We'll talk more about that.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
And then Trey Amos from Ole Miss Yahood running night
really really solid in the four fours.
Speaker 5 (11:34):
You like some of those things.
Speaker 4 (11:35):
So I think I feel better about this group, particularly
as we talk about the top fifty, the top sixty selections.
Speaker 5 (11:41):
We can have that traditional run of cornerbacks that will go.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
Another guy that kept showing up at Mobile was Billy
Bowman from Oklahoma.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
About him, thought he ran a really nice time at
four four to two and.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Then smaller, so you got to be fast. But he is,
he's got crazy instincts.
Speaker 5 (11:55):
He is.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
I mean, that guy plays like the motor just is stuck.
The throw was stuck for him because he can't slow down.
Speaker 5 (12:02):
He is all gas.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
So further down the line, justin Wally from Minnesota. You know,
missed some time last year for the Ghosts, but when
he came back, he helped kick off with I believe
was a five game win streak from Minnesota. Started with
a big upset over USC at home. He ends up
running in the four fours. I thought it was a
pretty good time there. Another guy that I liked from
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seeing him in person. So just a bunch of names
there from the from the dB group that kind of
stood out to us. A lot more that we'll get
into here, but that was this week's Hot or Not segment,
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move the sticks with a look at the tight ends
that were on the field here day two of the
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Scouty Combine all right back with you here on Move
the Sticks re at Lewis Bucky Brooks, Lance zerline talking
tight ends And by the way, if you were wondering yet,
Travis Hunter did not come out here with the defensive
backs and participate. Will Johnson kind of the same, So
you know, that's why we didn't mention those names there
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with the defensive backs. Kind of similar situation with the
tight ends. Top two guys in the class, we're not
out here working out Tyler Warren and then also Colston Lovelin.
We also didn't see, you know, two of the other
top tight ends actually run the forty Mason Taylor from LSU,
Elijah Royo from Miami. We did see Taylor out there
in the on field workouts, Bucky, What stood out to
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you about the tight end group?
Speaker 4 (13:30):
No, Well, I think about Taylor and he is the
one that I had right on that borderline and shows
of my top five he obviously be in at the
next time around. But watching him go through drills, he
is the prototypical y tight end that you always look for,
the guy that can.
Speaker 5 (13:44):
Line up and do everything inline blocking.
Speaker 4 (13:47):
When you saw him moving the bags, it moved differently
to some of the other things, like he did not
have the struggles that some of them did when it
came to explosive online blocking movement.
Speaker 5 (13:57):
And then as a pass catcher, how easy it is
for him to catch. It's swell running. How smooth he is?
Speaker 2 (14:02):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (14:02):
To me, he's just one of those solid all around
wide tight ends they can play for a long time
in this league.
Speaker 5 (14:08):
Yeah, I thought he looked great out there.
Speaker 6 (14:10):
I mean, I can't wait to see how he test,
but I already know he's gonna run well.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
And and I thought he looked really smooth out in space.
Has has a separating gear. I think he's gonna get
pushed up. I think the first two tight ends come
off the board inside the first you know, twelve thirteen picks,
and then there's gonna be somebody who says, you know,
once it gets it's gonna get to Because Gunner Helm
did not help himself yesterday from University of Texas, So
I don't know how you stack it, but I know
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that I think Mason Taylor will probably be the third
guy off.
Speaker 5 (14:37):
But because because Fanning Junior didn't run fast. Now he doesn't.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
But I thought he was one of the winners of
the field workout. But he doesn't block, Yeah.
Speaker 5 (14:45):
So terrific. He's he's just a pass catcher.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
So if you're gonna just be a pass catcher, you
gotta you want to see a little more juice.
Speaker 5 (14:52):
So that's that's one of the things.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
I think Mason Taylor's a third and it's going to
be a matter of we really need a tight end
and this dude can play, Let's go up and get him.
Like it wouldn't shock me if maybe a sneaky third
tight end got into the first round. Yeah, with Mason Taylor,
because I'm not sure a third quarterback gets into the
first round.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
So coming back, but I mean a nice spot for
the City thirty one.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
Oh, I mean mess around and let them get a
replacement for Kelse Right, I'm sure they'll take a look
at that.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
C J.
Speaker 6 (15:19):
Dupree had a really nice workout for Alabama.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
He's a guy that that I think helped himself a
little bit yesterday as you and.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
I were standing while they were doing another piece of
the testing, which we don't talk about a whole lot.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
Which was flexibility.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
So they'll kind of you know, anybody's ever you know,
sat down and done a hamstring stretch where you get
the you know, your legs out in the v right
and then you're trying to reach for your legs. But
what they do here is they you cross the elbows
and then they try to see how close you can
get your elbows to the ground and then measure that space.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
Yeah, they got a yardstick off the ground and they
see how they get way low and they see how
many inches off the ground you are. And I know
there was Evans from Notre Dame was like eight and
a half inches off, which is low. There's another guy
I won't say who it is, was like eighteen and
a half.
Speaker 5 (16:05):
I just thought that's me, but that's me.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
Yeah, but depri was I mean those elbows went right
to the feet, over the top on the kind of
that low back puck.
Speaker 5 (16:14):
You talk about them for a second.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
So you know, we talk about flexion, but this is
something that's never discussed. I saw the force plate measurements
that are out there, which is something new that's not
gonna the public isn't really going to see that or
get those measurements. And I talked to one of the
guys who is running it, But can you talk about
the flexibility test because it's.
Speaker 5 (16:32):
Not just for tight ends. They're doing this for everyone, right.
Speaker 4 (16:34):
Yeah, because you want to see that like some of
this is like you're trying to get the predictors of
guys that could have injury issues because they're tight.
Speaker 5 (16:43):
They can't move all of that other stuff.
Speaker 4 (16:45):
Like when we talk about athleticism, flexibility has to be
a big part of it.
Speaker 5 (16:48):
No almots the big stiff athlete, and you only.
Speaker 4 (16:51):
Know as they get older they're not going to become
more flexible. And so you're trying to get that baseline
testing under way, but you do like to see guys
that can be in Think about all the conversations that
we had with the big guys that are dancing bears
and how nimble they are and those things.
Speaker 5 (17:05):
Yeah, so the flexibility certainly matters.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
Okay, let's give some credit to some of the testing
monsters from the tight end group. I'll just run through
that quickly. Luke Lasche Colston Lovelin were the tallest that
over six foot five. And then we had Terrence Ferguson
run the fastest forty, A guy I feel like has
some real high level potential in his frame and in
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his production in his game. He was a very valuable
target there at Oregon. I want to see it just
a little bit more edged. His game four to six
three on the forty was the fastest we saw. Thomas
Faedoni had some of the biggest measurements, longest arms, biggest hands.
From Nebraska. He was the number one tight end in
the country coming out of high school and then had
kind of an injury plagued early part of his career
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and but but then became a bigger piece of the nebraity.
Speaker 5 (17:55):
Forence Charms like you said, that's that's tackle size.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
And then jump broad you ten foot six, which was
the longest of the group. Rondi Gatson, who has NFL blood,
showed up with a thirty nine inch vert. But I
wanted to ask you about our friend who did not
have the fastest forty yard dash time, but did have
perhaps the most intriguing headshot, and that is Robbie Oots
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from Alabama.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
Go ahead, Lance Well.
Speaker 5 (18:23):
So I looked at I watched him play.
Speaker 6 (18:27):
Yeah, he's a burly guy.
Speaker 5 (18:29):
Well muscles, muscles on muscles.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
Then I saw his his picture and he's got the
he's got a full on must there there is there's
a Kenny Powers look.
Speaker 5 (18:40):
And I was like, man, this guy.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
And so I spent about twenty five minutes trying to
come up with a description because I need to tell
people who this guy is.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
You need to tell me.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
And I'm like, and I am working through and I'm like,
this guy working like this is like a grown man
with three kids type of look. Yes, like that works
a hard job. So I'm searching for the tough jobs
and I'm google search is stuff I should not like.
Why am I doing? I've got players to write, And
I got into this rabbit hole of who this guy
is and I came up with I said, you know
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he is. He's like an iron worker with a squad
rack in his garage and he's out there hitting that.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
Rack wow, before going to work, before after he gets
back from work.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
Yeah, with a beverage exactly like he is a blue collar.
He's got a blue collar body type. He's physical, he's aggressive.
It's funny. He didn't run fast, but when you watch him,
he plays with short hair explosiveness.
Speaker 6 (19:36):
It just can't maintain. Like, my guess is his ten
yard time?
Speaker 1 (19:39):
I haven't even look. I bet his ten yards not decent.
But it it tails off. We can't hang out to
the speed buck. We can we can get the gass going, yeah,
we can get the gas going on.
Speaker 6 (19:49):
We're not I'm not trying to play thirty and.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
Four down the scene to run a full you know,
turns out of safety a forty yard.
Speaker 5 (19:56):
Now he is an NFL fallback.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
He'll be he'll be on a team, and he'll probably
get pretty good reps as an NFL fullback. But when
you're seeing him like he is, he looks like striking.
He looks like he played at Penn State in the
in the eighties.
Speaker 5 (20:10):
Bucky, that's what he looks like.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
If he just put just a little bit of a
neck roll on to me, I would raise him a
full two rounds.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
One of my favorites in the class also, you know,
was not like at the way top end of any
of the testing, but I thought moved really well and
has some good tape. Is Maliki Matavaal from UCLA. Trying
to think of some of the other guys that kind
of stood out on this one again we mentioned Terrence
or Tyler Warren and Colson Lovelin did not get out
(20:37):
there on the.
Speaker 5 (20:38):
Field workout on the field.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
He was actually I thought he had some good hands.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
So he's got like he's interesting. In Arizona State, he
played some quarterback.
Speaker 6 (20:49):
They had him.
Speaker 5 (20:49):
As a he's like five of six throwing.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
They used him as a as a Wildcat quarterback. He
would run, he would hand off, and he would throw
some like he was a really really interesting athlete. He
went from Arizona State to Texas Tech. You know, the
buzz on him up in the stands from some of
the scouts. Was not a guy who lived in the
weight room necessarily. You know, some of the stuff about
(21:13):
getting after it and grinding. If he does that in
the NFL, watch out and all of a sudden he's
got the athleticism. You know, if that work ethic kicks in,
that's that's something to keep an eye on.
Speaker 5 (21:22):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
And then never discount the Iowa tight ends, right, Lucy,
We'll find a way, right, We'll find a way. So
there's just a look at some of the tight ends
and defensive backs that were out on the field from
day two of the combine. We'll get back with you
tomorrow for a recap of what look in most years
is the main event, right quarterbacks, wide receivers, tight ends.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
We're getting ready for that today. We'll have that recap
for you.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
Coming up tomorrow on move the sticks from Lancerline, Bucky
Brooks I and Red Lewis.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
Thanks much being with us.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
We'll catch you next time, right here, I'll move the sticks.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
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