June 9, 2022 • 28 mins
Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks are back with a new episode of Move the Sticks. To start off, the guys do a deep dive on the Next Gen Stats' top 10 deep passers of 2021. Then for the rest of the show, the pair look at the rookie quarterbacks and their outlook before the 2022 season.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
And now move the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks.
What's up everybody? DJ? Bucky back with you, Buck? What's
going on? Man? Man? Life is good? How was how
is everything? With Marcus? I apologize, Uh, we're in the
process of a move, so things have got crazy, so
I had to duck out. And then Marcus Pinch hit admirably.
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But how how was that one? Look, it was a
little cross over because we talked a little fantasy, a
little reality. Uh. We obviously touched on the big I mean,
the big thing that is the game changing was Aaron
Donald's contract, but then we mixed in top ten wide
receivers in with Marcus having a little bit of a
fantasy slant. It was an interesting conversation. I love it.
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I appreciate shout out to Marcus for helping us out
on that one. I appreciate that. Today on the show,
actually gonna talk about deep ball passers and look up
some next gen stats on that. Who were the top
deep ball passers from last year? I would expect from
those guys coming up in the upcoming season, So we
hit on that a little bit. Also gonna talk some
rookie qubs. You know these opportunities that they have to
win jobs that we think it's gonna happen, and what
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the forecast is for those guys. But before we get
started there, Buck, I need to know right now as
as my son, I've got one, it's gonna be a
freshman high school, he's entering kind of in the high
school football phase. They start their morning workouts. I need
I need a little scouting report. I need to know
what what your squad's looking like for next year. As
as your head coaching career continues, is this your three
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this will actually be season four? Yeah, twenty nineteen was
the first year, so um, you know, DJ, it is
always a work in progress. And so Monday was the
first day of workouts. We've been working out throughout the summer,
throughout the spring, but now it's the first time that
everyone comes together. And so I'm just a big believer
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in man. Before we can even think about what we're
gonna do, we gotta get the right people on the squad.
And so right now we're going through the trial phase
that takes like two weeks to kind of figure out
who's who, what's what. We're working on conditioning and those
things and just the basic things. But it's a lot
of fun. It's a lot of fun watching them. I
would say that. They probably wouldn't say that it's a
lot of fun because, um, I think we're a little
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old school. I think you should. I think you remember.
Do you have the trash cans set up? Do you
have the trash can set up on the field? Yeah?
Because A no, no is you cannot. You cannot you
feel the field. No, you gotta gotta get off because
then I gotta kind of bring somebody in to clean that.
So hey, little receptacles at every corner of the field, like, hey,
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find your way to a little great receptacle. But please, Yeah,
on the field again, I got to call administration. We
gotta get the people to clean. Um, we've had a few,
but I mean, DJ, we're not doing anything crazy. We're
just doing like some runs, some sprints, some bear crawls,
some gases, like simple stuff. You know, how about monkey rolls?
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You do we got any monkey rolls? Gone? No, we
can't do. You remember having to do that though, I
remember that was like because college, we have to do
those things. Man, I was guys doing that to take
care of the football. So you didn't fumble, like rolling
over and doing all that other stuff. But well you
did like the three. Is this what I'm thinking when
you had the three guys where you like roll over,
you got jumped over him and they rolled back. Who
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came up with this thing? I haven't done this, but
was coming. Um, I don't know if you're where those
are harder man. Yeah, yeahbilit you gotta open up those
tips and so all that. But it's it's all been
good fun. I think that the fun thing is watching
the kids kind of get together. Um. Really, what you're
trying to do is trying to help kids become really
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good people. So you use football as a vehicle to
kind of get and do some stuff, and you try
and tell them, hey, man, you can be great in
anything in life. You gotta commit to it. And if
you commit to what you can hold people accountable, hold
yourself accountable, then you can earn trust. You do that,
you've got a chance to be successful. So there's been
a lot of fun. It's always a lot of fun.
I was talking to a buddy about high school coaches
the other day and last aut on that and we'll
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get gone. But he brought he said a great analogy.
His his uh his brother is a high school coach,
has done really well. And uh, I said, you know what,
what's his philosophy? You know who always talked about philosophies,
He said, what's his philosophy? He said, he never talks
about wins or losses. He said, he deems he deems
how good a job he's done by how many weddings
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of his former players he gets invided to. Yeah, said,
it's amazing when you think about that, Like, if you
developed that type of relationship with these kids that four
or five, you know, eight ten years later when they
get married and you're on the invitation list, then you've
made an impact on the kid. I thought, and and
and the winds kind of come with that once they
what is that phrase, but that they don't care how
much you know? And this they know how much you care.
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I think that's DJ This has kind of being like
one of the best things. And I think what it's
done is it's made me better in terms of watching
ball and teams and team building. But I would I
would say he's absolutely right, because what the kids want
is kind of what every kid wants from a parent
or whatever is they won't consistency and reliability and stability.
And so they want to make sure that you're gonna
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show up every day, that your messaging is gonna be
the same. And what also learned is what you learned
with your kids. Whatever you say you're going to do,
you better do it follow through. Yeah, so if you
say that he if guys are late, we're gonna lock
him out. Better lock him out because because so now
it's great. And so I'm hopeful that you know, we
build enough young people that somewhere down the line I
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get some invitations and Stuffy grow up because there's a
lot of fun watching them kind of go through each phase.
I love it all. Right, let's get going here. Let's
talk deep balls. Uh. This is uh looking at next
gen stats top ten deep passers from so we're gonna
work ten all the way down to number one and go.
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I want to get your thoughts kind of all what
you expect for these guys in the future, what's changed
around them, uh, and whether or not we see this
as sustainable and what we see from them going forward.
So tenh in the league? How about the m v
P Aaron Rodgers with tent uh in the deep ball
last year. You look at his completion percentage over expected
as plus seven point three, which is is pretty darn good.
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Means he's getting more than probably should um six touchdowns,
three interceptions. You know, it's not a it's not something
with him you think about, they're very selective in taking
their shots down the field. They're gonna beat you up
underneath with his accuracy and consistency and then and then
selectively take their shots. But he was the tenth fest
in the league last year. Yeah, DJ, I think like
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with some of the deep ball stuff, the numbers that
we look at um a lot of his the coverages
that they face, like some teams are gonna park the
saves in the parking lot of take the deep ball away.
Sometimes it's a an aging quarterback losing some of the
fastball when it comes to being able to push it
down the field. But the efficiency with which that he
operates is amazing, and so we think about like thirty
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eight point one per cent. I think you have to
think about the deep ball much like we think about
the three point shot in basketball. Man has a nice
solid number because it's hard to connect on those shots
just because of the range and because of the coverage
that you're facing down the field. Yeah, so they kind
of put this whole thing together with all these staf
and it gives you your your passing score on deep attempts.
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So he was a ninety one just above him in
the ninth spot. Actually, we have a tie here just
above him, so I guess it'll be tied for eight.
We've got two guys, Derek Carr and Russell Wilson. Derek
Carr stays in the same situation in in Vegas, but
he adds Aaron Rodgers top receiver, uh coming over there
in Davante Adams. Russell Wilson obviously changing completely. He's now
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with the Denver Broncos. So of those two, if they
tied last year in their passing score on deep balls,
both guys very effective there. Who would you say is
better equipped to have a have a big time you're
pushing the ball vertically between those two guys, I would
think Derry Carr. But Derek Carr's uh efficiency and production
will be tied to the personnel. When you have Davante
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Adams teaming up with Darren Wallatt and Hunter Renfroe, you're
guaranteed of getting an All Star in a one on
one matchup, and so I like the odds of being
able to find a deep ball based on a matchup
as opposed to the coverage. Russell Wilson steps into a
nice situation. But man, I am racking my brain trying
to figure out how someone is going to match up
with the Raiders on the perimeter. I don't know if
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you have enough fist hard dbs to handle what they
can trot out there when they go their eleven personnel package.
So Derek Carr has been good on the beat ball here, um,
but here's my question to you, looking at these two guys.
This is the Patriots offense. This is the death by
a million paper cuts offense with guys. When you think
about Davante Adams uncovering underneath Hunter Renfro uncovering underneath Waller,
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you can say, okay, he can stretch the scene a
little bit more. But I don't know how much vertical
they're really gonna get buck. I mean, I think they're
gonna let those guys uncover, get the ball in their
hands and and let them go like New England's done forever.
Whereas with Russ, I think Russ goes to Denver and
you get kJ Handler, who's a flyer. You get Jerry
Judy who's a flyer. You get Courtland Sutton on fifty
fifty balls down the field, and Russell Wilson has always been,
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you know, the sexy beat ball guy. So I'm actually
kind of leaning towards just the situations. I bulk have
great years, but I'm actually in towards rust being more
vertical than than maybe a car. This next year, well,
he may have more opportunities to push ball down the
field because when we think about the running game and
what they can create, Yeah, he may have opportunities. And
you're right when you looked at the numbers, because I
think Darry Carr was seven touchdowns five interceptions compared to
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Russell Wilson having nine in two touchdown interceptions. He is
known for pushing it down the field. And when we
talk about just who throws a prettier deep ball, man,
it is hard to beat that moon ball that Russell
Wilson drops down the chimney. Uh yeah, you can put
a big numbers, you know, until we see him, until
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we see what this offense looks like. It's hard for
me to forecast, but I do like, what potentially could
happen in dem if the pieces of the polls will
fall into place? All right, this next one, I mean,
does this Does this one shock you a little bit
here when we get to the next one, because the
next two guys are tied right above the two we
just mentioned, and those are yeah, Patrick Mahomes, okay at it?
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Carson Wentz. Carson Wentz was dark on a deep ball
last year. Buck Hey, DJ Like, it's one of those things.
And and here's what we're talking about, facts over feelings.
The one thing numbers do is it takes all the
emotion out. So whatever you think about Carson Wentz based
on how it played out for them at the end
of the year, when you look at the numbers, this
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is a remarkable stack. Look he completed, but of his
deep ball attempts seven to three touchdown interspituation, the passer
rating was one oh six. That we're doing the blind resume,
I don't think anybody would have put Carson Wentz his
face with those numbers. Maybe we need to go back
and maybe in Washington it might be a little bit
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of situation because the burners that they have on the outside.
Terry mclauren, Curtis Samuel. They may have some guys that play, yeah,
that plays to his strength. They have an opportunity to
really maybe maximize what his talents talents are as a player.
Think about that last year on deep falls Carson went
seven touchdowns, Patrick Mahomes seven touchdowns. Um, this is the
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big number. The completion percentage over expected. Carson Wentz was
plus ten point one per cent. Mahomes was plus four
point two percent. In other words, like Carson Wentz outperformed
on some of these throws, meaning he made some big
time special throws that were not supposed to be completed.
He found a way to get them in there. I
think of, gosh, what was it the game against Arizona
where he had some big time, big time throws earlier
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in the year there with the Colts. Now, obviously we
know how it ended in in in the game against Jacksonville,
but there is still some good there with Carson Wentz.
I found that quite fascinating. All right right above them, Um,
we have all by himself here Matthew Stafford in fifth spot.
When you look at his numbers, what jumps out and
what do you expect this year? Well, what jumps out
to me is just to ear volume in terms of
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the passing yards that he put passing yards. The other
thing that jumps out look a seven or seven touchdown
interception ratio, which is even so the efficiency in terms
of pushing the ball down the field was not exactly
what you would like. Um, but this is Matthew Stafford
and he has that gun slingker mentality. And some of
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those were early when O. B J was coming over.
He's trying to get O. B J invall trying to
push the ball down the field for some things. But look,
he's a threat. He makes you defend everybody of grass,
particularly down the field. Is one of those things that
you have to understand. This is who Matthew Stafford is,
and you're going to get some of those turners, but
you also get the big plays to come with it. Yeah,
I think with Stafford, I mean, anybody that throws a
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no looker in the Super Bowl with the game on
the line, with the game on the line exactly. So
to kind of see him kind of run up the
totals for both teams, you know, his and and the
opponents not a surprise because I mean was one of
the first guys, I guess you'd probably go back to
the guy you played with the Brett Farve where you
start hearing the term gun slinger. You know, it kind
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of became overused, but I don't know that there's a
more app description of Stafford than unslinger. Like he is
going to shoot his shot, He's not gonna leave, He's
not gonna leave the field going. Man. I wish I
would have been a little more aggressive. Nope, he's going
for it, absolutely going for and he's going for it
at all times. Uh. That's one of the things that
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has made him a fantastic player, and I know a
lot of it was lost during this time at Detroit.
We now have an opportunity to appreciate n l A
with the weapons that he has around him. He's the
guy that's gonna push the envelope. Sometimes it'll work against you,
but a lot of times it's really gonna work for you.
All Right, here we go. Now we're into the top four. Um,
Justin Herbert comes in at number four. I got a
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front row seat to watch this on a yearly basis,
But last year eight touchdowns, four interceptions and ninety nine
point three passer rating completion percentage plus seven point eight
percent over expected um so's he's he's scored a ninety
seven with his overall passing score. And you talk about
being able to push the ball vertically, buck the thing
that jumps out to me A lot of times when
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you think about guys that pushed the ball vertically, you
think about extend in place, which he can do some
of that. You think about just play deep play action,
and then being able to get the ball up early
and out. Some of these are within the pocket, bodies
around him, no platform to be able to step, and
he's in heavy dress throwing some of these balls, which
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is just ridiculous. It is ridiculous. And you know, DJ
is funny because there's this thing where we're bubbling up
about Justin Herbert being a superstar. I give Brandon's daily
tremendous amount of credit for really being bold in this
profit proclamation about his young quarterback, because the dude is
a star. And then when you look at the numbers
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and you see what he is actually doing, this guy's
the top five quarterback and you see it every week.
But I think on a grander scale, I think people
have to appreciate what he is and It's one of
the reasons why when we talk about the f C
West and how excited everyone is. I think you made
this proposal and pitch that they should put at least
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one a f C West game on prime time each
week because it's the battle of the quarterbacks. I mean,
we already have three of them now. Every quarterback is
on the list, Derek Carr, Pat Mahomes, Russell Wilson, and
now Justin Herbert. Every all top ten guys when it
comes to the deep ball, and Justin Herbert rings first.
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It's just one of those things when we talk about
quarterback playing, Justin Herbert he has to be in the
conversation as the top five guy. I'm with you on that.
And as we get to the top three guys in
terms of the deep ball, some interesting names here. I
think that's a fast surprise surprises. Yes, let's get to
number three on the list with a passing score of
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um against seven touchdowns, three picks on one eleven point
one pass rating, which is a huge number. The number
from me again, completion percentage over expected plus twelve point three,
so far exceeding what was expected on some of these plays.
And that's Kyler Murray a man who's who's looking for
a payday buck and somebody. When you talk about his
ability to extend place and then use his eyes, I
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think that was one of the things that stood out
to me. And when you're evaluating him to the draft process,
is he really did want to scramble the throw. He
had not wanted to take off and go to the
point where like, dude, you're so electric and dynamic, I
wish you'd use that quick little stride to go and
run more. But he likes to buy time to try
and push the ball down the field. Yeah, he wants
to buy time to push it down the field. But
you know, DJ, I think because of all the stuff
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around Cayler Murray, right, like some of the things that
you question, maybe from a leadership standpoint, some of the
body language stuff that you don't like. What it does
is he's allowed that part to overshadow the player that
he is pretty dark to think about. To think about
Cala Murray being third best on this list to put
up the numbers that he puts up pushing the ball
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down the field, you now understand why the Arizona Gardiners
are committed for him being the QB one for the future,
even though there's some debate about when they're going to
pay him and all that stuff. D the proof is
in the pudding, Like, these numbers are ridiculous, and I
know we have the lasting image from the playoff failure
where he lost against the Rams and those things, the numbers,
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the production, the performance. He has been a guy last year.
We're talking about him being a top five player. He
has that kind of talent. He is everything that you
want as a number one overall pick from a talent standpoint. Now,
if we can get the leadership stuff in the body
language stuff right, you talk about a bona fide superstar.
Those numbers are superstar caliber numbers. I'm with you, man,
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I'm with you. I think that that's why that that
check is gonna get written. Um is like I understand,
like they were frustrated. They wanted to guild deal to
get done on Kyler. Kyler's side with his camp, they're
gonna get it. I mean they're gonna get it and
they're gonna be happy with it. They're gonna paying a
ton of money. Um. Number two on the list. How
about this one, Matt Ryan Buck And this is uh,
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you know, with a score, so really he's he's tied
for first here. But Matt Ryan not a lot of
the attempts twenty forty two, so it's a huge completion
percentage on depauls forty seven point six is outstanding, you know,
three to one touchdowns the pics. Again, it's not a
big volume, but it's just really efficient completion percentage over
expected plus seventeen point eight percent. I think that speaks
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to a little bit of who he was working with
last year. There's no name receivers. Basically it was Kyle
Pitts and and uh and then crossed your fingers with
everybody else last year. So I don't know. I don't
know how much I read into this because I see
those numbers, but it's not a lot of volume there.
It's not a lot of volume of it. But but DJ,
it's wonder the reasons why I think, Uh, you're a
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little excited about, you know, Matt Ryan taking over because
we're looking at these numbers, right, and you're looking at
Matt Ryan, and you're right, it's not a high volume
in terms of the sample size, but the passer rating
one or seven point seven, he's very efficiently looked at
completion percentage forty seven point six. So now take those numbers,
but you have Matt Ryan replacing Carson Wentz, who put
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up great numbers in the same game offense. It's an
opportunity for Matt Ryan to maybe have a little bit
of a rebirth of resurgence on the as a quarterback
in the twilight of his career because this offense is
going to give him an opportunity to do what he
does really well, and throwing the deep ball is one
of those underrated parts of his game that he does
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really well. Yeah, I think the best way to summarize
the transition from Wentz to Matt Ryan is, you know,
I think with Carson, you're gonna see some of those
unbelievable plays. He's gonna hit the three five ft beyond
the line, he's gonna, he's gonna, he's gonna, you know,
he's gonna dunk on people and create these massive highlights.
Whereas with Matt Ryan, it's just like, just make the
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simple play. It's a two handed it's a two handed
chest pass, you know what I mean. Like he's just
gonna everything that's there. That's all they wanted to do,
Just just make the plays that they're there. We don't
need you to play really kind of outside the structure.
I don't think that's so it's gonna be fascinating to
kind of see the creativity. You maybe lose some of
that with Wentz, but the consistency you gain Matt Ryan. Yeah,
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the consistency is everything. And you already hear the reports
coming out about what he has been able to do
in the off season program, and I know it's offseason program,
and overally cares about like that stuff. What you're hearing
the players talk about his leadership, what he's added to
the team in terms of raising the standard, his ability
to challenge the wide receivers. But then everybody to a man,
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including Frank Wright, has talked about the accuracy. When you
add that accuracy on short, intermediate and now the deep ball,
this offense has a chance to expand because all that's
gonna be on Jonathan Taylor. Now you get an opportunity
to take advantage of defense is really over committing to
stopping what I think is probably one of the best
running games in football. Yeah, that division, Man, they're gonna
run the rock in that division alright. Tied up there
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with him at Number one was Josh Allen. No surprise
there more volume here nine fifty four yards, five touchdowns,
two picks, a hundred point seven pass rating. He was
only plus seven point eight in terms of completion percentage
over expected, which means they've got some stuff dialed up
to get guys open, and he's kind of made those happen. Um.
But again, the score there as good as it gets,
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and that that one doesn't surprise him. When you think
about big, strong, you know, big plays. I think Josh
Allen's probably you know him and Justin Herbert to me
in terms of cutting that image at Mahomes obviously like
those guys kind of to me, I think of vertical pastors,
those guys come to mind. Yeah, I think of that.
I think he's built to be a big place specialist.
I think you go back and watch him at Wyoming,
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you had an opportunity to see that a ton um
throwing it down the field. In Buffalo. He has become
a more accurate passer on short, intermediate, and even deep
because early in his career he struggled with the deep ball.
Well now he's dropping that thing in and with the
guy his size, with his athleticism, and running skills, able
to push the ball. He's different man. He's he's a
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different player. This is the year that I think he
has to buy her. He will buy for the m
v P. Everything has lined up for him to do it.
He's matured into and look the top five quarterback who
as m v P caliber stuff. Now it's time for
him to play like that in the deep ball will
be a big part of how he plays and performs
at that m v P level. All right, let's take
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a quick break. We're gonna come back here and touch
on some rookie quarterbacks before we wrap it up. All right, Buck,
just quick, as we wrapped this one up today, I
wanted to look at these rookie quarterbacks and I want
to just kind of give me a number and then
we'll bounce back and forth on this. I want to
say right now what you believe? And we got got
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plenty of time once we get through training camp, season, preseason. Well,
I would better feel for this, but I want to
know the number of starts for some of these rookies.
You're ready to go, okay, yeah, so let's let's start
with Kenny Pickett. How many starts with Kenny Pickett this year,
I think eight. I think he starts half the year
for the team. I don't think he wins the job
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right out of training camp. I think that goes to
one of the veterans, namely Mitch to biscuity. But by
about the midway point, I think Kenney Pickett will have
settled in enough that he will get an opportunity need
to lead this team. And once he gets in the game,
I think he stays in the game. So give me
eight starts on Canny pick eight starts on Canny Pickett. Okay,
I like that. I was gonna lean towards I was
gonna go I was gonna go ten. I'm gonna go
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a little bit over that and say that we do
see Travisky here at the start of the season. Um,
but it's gonna be it's gonna be a fun competition
to watch. I don't think he starts week one. I
think we're on the same page there, eight to ten starts.
I think we're kind of speaking the same language there.
How about how about Desmond Ritter with the Falcons. Look,
I'll go four, um, and I would say four is
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just due to maybe some injuries. Whatever they would say
injuries with Mariota's probably picks him on the field, yeah,
ankle sprain or something like that. He gets an opportunity
to go in the field, gives them a chance to
get like a little sneak peek at what they have
in the third round quarterback, and then after that they'll
make a determination where he plays. But I think four
is a nice safe number. Yeah, I'm gonna say three
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or four. Yeah, I'm with you. I think we're seeing
the same thing here. I think that Mariota, I don't
know that he's gonna make it through a whole season. Um,
But again, would you be shocked if Marcus being out there?
If Marcus went down in the third week of the season,
and then if Ritter ends up starting the most games
of any rookie, that wouldn't surprise me. Now, I wouldn't
surprise me because remember, look at all the young guys
that have played to play last year, Look at all
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the different quarterbacks that played. They had opportunities to be
an opportunity for him to play. Yeah, and he's gonna
he's gonna learn to playbook in two seconds. I mean,
everybody raped about how smart he is and how sharp
he is so he'll be able to pick that up.
So again, I think it's it's determined on the health
of Mariot. I don't think he's gonna beat him out,
but you know, Marcus has has had injuries in the past,
so that'd be something to keep an eye on. All Right,
Malik Willis with the Titans. He I mean he's he's
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not starting games this year? Is he back? No? I
think he's a richer. He's a richer in candidate. This
is this is Ryan Santehills. I think it would have
to be a crazy, wild circumstance and situation to give
Malik Willis an opportunity. I think this is his opportunity
to get better on the practice field, to prepare for
an opportunity to potentially play in How about this, Is
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there a chance he played ease in games but just
doesn't start games. Like, here's the thing. Everybody always talks
about these packages. I've done it. We're gonna give these
guys a package of plays. They never do. It never happens.
Remember I said that it didn't happen. Yeah. I think
it's too hard. I think it's too hard to disrupt
the flow of the game to get him and they
had they need to have a package of plays ready
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in case he does have to play, but to stop
the flow of the game to say, hey, Malik Willis,
we're gonna come in and basically use it as a
wild at quarterback. No, I think they rolled with Ryan
Tannehill and too. Ryan Tannehill gives them a reason not to.
I think the veterman I played well. I don't think
we'll see Milieu Willis this year, all right, Bailey Zappy
was the next pick. I don't I think we're on
the same page. I mean unless something happening playing. Uh,
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Sam how will be the last one there in Washington.
You know, we just talked about Carson Wentz a little
bit earlier about how efficient effect if he was on
the deep ball. What do you think do we see
Sam How your your tar heel this year? I give
him one game, one one game. We'll give him one game,
just like this is the prices right, and I put
to be it for one dollar. Look, I'm gonna go
one game with Sam How just because d year we
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talked a little earlier. There are so many quarterbacks that
got on the field last year, um that that I
would just kind of bank on. Maybe something happening to
the one in the two quarterback that gives Sam howl
an opportunity to play. I think that's what happens. Didn't
we see Ian booked last year play for the Saints? Maybe? Yeah,
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So maybe this is an opportunity Sam how it gets
the opportunity to run through the run out of tunnel
here's name call run the offense for a game before
he goes back to one of the veterans. Yeah. Yeah,
because you gotta remember he's not on deck. He's in
the hole, you know, like he's not. He's starting out
as number three, not as most of these guys are
coming in at least at number two. So he's got
to climb over a couple of guys to get into
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the game. But I don't know why. I just got
a sense that maybe we see him for for a
few games this year, so we'll see how it all
shakes out. But I thought he was kind of almost
criminally underdrafted. He had not deserved to fall as low
as he did in this draft. That I actually believe,
even Sam How, I think he's got a shot to
be a good starter. So I'll say I'll say three
or four. I think he gets his he gets out there,
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carsonal get hurt, see what happens behind a key, But
he'll he'll find his way on the field at some
point in time. So we're kind of we're very similar
in all those we are. We're like, see, we've been
doing it for too long. We're coming from the same
viewpoint on all this. One thing we know, young quarterbacks
don't have an opportunity to play. These guys have to
get up and get ready to play as starters, regardless
of whether their teams tell them like, hey, this is
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a richer year. As they always say in football, you
want play away. You have one play and trying again,
one play in the regular season can change everything in
an instant. And you could do to justin herber thing, Hey,
by the way, you find us for the game you're starting.
How about that? Ok? Here we go, Oh man, yeah
that was I still just see me in my going
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like what is going on? Is this real? Uh? Bizarre? Anyways,
all right, that's gonna do it for us today. We
appreciate you guys hanging with us, and we'll catch you
next time. Right here on moving sticks. Not ut have
got before to love ut that he have got before
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to love
And now move the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks.
What's up everybody? DJ? Bucky back with you, Buck? What's
going on? Man? Man? Life is good? How was how
is everything? With Marcus? I apologize, Uh, we're in the
process of a move, so things have got crazy, so
I had to duck out. And then Marcus Pinch hit admirably.
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But how how was that one? Look, it was a
little cross over because we talked a little fantasy, a
little reality. Uh. We obviously touched on the big I mean,
the big thing that is the game changing was Aaron
Donald's contract, but then we mixed in top ten wide
receivers in with Marcus having a little bit of a
fantasy slant. It was an interesting conversation. I love it.
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I appreciate shout out to Marcus for helping us out
on that one. I appreciate that. Today on the show,
actually gonna talk about deep ball passers and look up
some next gen stats on that. Who were the top
deep ball passers from last year? I would expect from
those guys coming up in the upcoming season, So we
hit on that a little bit. Also gonna talk some
rookie qubs. You know these opportunities that they have to
win jobs that we think it's gonna happen, and what
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the forecast is for those guys. But before we get
started there, Buck, I need to know right now as
as my son, I've got one, it's gonna be a
freshman high school, he's entering kind of in the high
school football phase. They start their morning workouts. I need
I need a little scouting report. I need to know
what what your squad's looking like for next year. As
as your head coaching career continues, is this your three
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this will actually be season four? Yeah, twenty nineteen was
the first year, so um, you know, DJ, it is
always a work in progress. And so Monday was the
first day of workouts. We've been working out throughout the summer,
throughout the spring, but now it's the first time that
everyone comes together. And so I'm just a big believer
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in man. Before we can even think about what we're
gonna do, we gotta get the right people on the squad.
And so right now we're going through the trial phase
that takes like two weeks to kind of figure out
who's who, what's what. We're working on conditioning and those
things and just the basic things. But it's a lot
of fun. It's a lot of fun watching them. I
would say that. They probably wouldn't say that it's a
lot of fun because, um, I think we're a little
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old school. I think you should. I think you remember.
Do you have the trash cans set up? Do you
have the trash can set up on the field? Yeah?
Because A no, no is you cannot. You cannot you
feel the field. No, you gotta gotta get off because
then I gotta kind of bring somebody in to clean that.
So hey, little receptacles at every corner of the field, like, hey,
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find your way to a little great receptacle. But please, Yeah,
on the field again, I got to call administration. We
gotta get the people to clean. Um, we've had a few,
but I mean, DJ, we're not doing anything crazy. We're
just doing like some runs, some sprints, some bear crawls,
some gases, like simple stuff. You know, how about monkey rolls?
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You do we got any monkey rolls? Gone? No, we
can't do. You remember having to do that though, I
remember that was like because college, we have to do
those things. Man, I was guys doing that to take
care of the football. So you didn't fumble, like rolling
over and doing all that other stuff. But well you
did like the three. Is this what I'm thinking when
you had the three guys where you like roll over,
you got jumped over him and they rolled back. Who
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came up with this thing? I haven't done this, but
was coming. Um, I don't know if you're where those
are harder man. Yeah, yeahbilit you gotta open up those
tips and so all that. But it's it's all been
good fun. I think that the fun thing is watching
the kids kind of get together. Um. Really, what you're
trying to do is trying to help kids become really
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good people. So you use football as a vehicle to
kind of get and do some stuff, and you try
and tell them, hey, man, you can be great in
anything in life. You gotta commit to it. And if
you commit to what you can hold people accountable, hold
yourself accountable, then you can earn trust. You do that,
you've got a chance to be successful. So there's been
a lot of fun. It's always a lot of fun.
I was talking to a buddy about high school coaches
the other day and last aut on that and we'll
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get gone. But he brought he said a great analogy.
His his uh his brother is a high school coach,
has done really well. And uh, I said, you know what,
what's his philosophy? You know who always talked about philosophies,
He said, what's his philosophy? He said, he never talks
about wins or losses. He said, he deems he deems
how good a job he's done by how many weddings
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of his former players he gets invided to. Yeah, said,
it's amazing when you think about that, Like, if you
developed that type of relationship with these kids that four
or five, you know, eight ten years later when they
get married and you're on the invitation list, then you've
made an impact on the kid. I thought, and and
and the winds kind of come with that once they
what is that phrase, but that they don't care how
much you know? And this they know how much you care.
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I think that's DJ This has kind of being like
one of the best things. And I think what it's
done is it's made me better in terms of watching
ball and teams and team building. But I would I
would say he's absolutely right, because what the kids want
is kind of what every kid wants from a parent
or whatever is they won't consistency and reliability and stability.
And so they want to make sure that you're gonna
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show up every day, that your messaging is gonna be
the same. And what also learned is what you learned
with your kids. Whatever you say you're going to do,
you better do it follow through. Yeah, so if you
say that he if guys are late, we're gonna lock
him out. Better lock him out because because so now
it's great. And so I'm hopeful that you know, we
build enough young people that somewhere down the line I
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get some invitations and Stuffy grow up because there's a
lot of fun watching them kind of go through each phase.
I love it all. Right, let's get going here. Let's
talk deep balls. Uh. This is uh looking at next
gen stats top ten deep passers from so we're gonna
work ten all the way down to number one and go.
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I want to get your thoughts kind of all what
you expect for these guys in the future, what's changed
around them, uh, and whether or not we see this
as sustainable and what we see from them going forward.
So tenh in the league? How about the m v
P Aaron Rodgers with tent uh in the deep ball
last year. You look at his completion percentage over expected
as plus seven point three, which is is pretty darn good.
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Means he's getting more than probably should um six touchdowns,
three interceptions. You know, it's not a it's not something
with him you think about, they're very selective in taking
their shots down the field. They're gonna beat you up
underneath with his accuracy and consistency and then and then
selectively take their shots. But he was the tenth fest
in the league last year. Yeah, DJ, I think like
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with some of the deep ball stuff, the numbers that
we look at um a lot of his the coverages
that they face, like some teams are gonna park the
saves in the parking lot of take the deep ball away.
Sometimes it's a an aging quarterback losing some of the
fastball when it comes to being able to push it
down the field. But the efficiency with which that he
operates is amazing, and so we think about like thirty
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eight point one per cent. I think you have to
think about the deep ball much like we think about
the three point shot in basketball. Man has a nice
solid number because it's hard to connect on those shots
just because of the range and because of the coverage
that you're facing down the field. Yeah, so they kind
of put this whole thing together with all these staf
and it gives you your your passing score on deep attempts.
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So he was a ninety one just above him in
the ninth spot. Actually, we have a tie here just
above him, so I guess it'll be tied for eight.
We've got two guys, Derek Carr and Russell Wilson. Derek
Carr stays in the same situation in in Vegas, but
he adds Aaron Rodgers top receiver, uh coming over there
in Davante Adams. Russell Wilson obviously changing completely. He's now
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with the Denver Broncos. So of those two, if they
tied last year in their passing score on deep balls,
both guys very effective there. Who would you say is
better equipped to have a have a big time you're
pushing the ball vertically between those two guys, I would
think Derry Carr. But Derek Carr's uh efficiency and production
will be tied to the personnel. When you have Davante
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Adams teaming up with Darren Wallatt and Hunter Renfroe, you're
guaranteed of getting an All Star in a one on
one matchup, and so I like the odds of being
able to find a deep ball based on a matchup
as opposed to the coverage. Russell Wilson steps into a
nice situation. But man, I am racking my brain trying
to figure out how someone is going to match up
with the Raiders on the perimeter. I don't know if
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you have enough fist hard dbs to handle what they
can trot out there when they go their eleven personnel package.
So Derek Carr has been good on the beat ball here, um,
but here's my question to you, looking at these two guys.
This is the Patriots offense. This is the death by
a million paper cuts offense with guys. When you think
about Davante Adams uncovering underneath Hunter Renfro uncovering underneath Waller,
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you can say, okay, he can stretch the scene a
little bit more. But I don't know how much vertical
they're really gonna get buck. I mean, I think they're
gonna let those guys uncover, get the ball in their
hands and and let them go like New England's done forever.
Whereas with Russ, I think Russ goes to Denver and
you get kJ Handler, who's a flyer. You get Jerry
Judy who's a flyer. You get Courtland Sutton on fifty
fifty balls down the field, and Russell Wilson has always been,
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you know, the sexy beat ball guy. So I'm actually
kind of leaning towards just the situations. I bulk have
great years, but I'm actually in towards rust being more
vertical than than maybe a car. This next year, well,
he may have more opportunities to push ball down the
field because when we think about the running game and
what they can create, Yeah, he may have opportunities. And
you're right when you looked at the numbers, because I
think Darry Carr was seven touchdowns five interceptions compared to
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Russell Wilson having nine in two touchdown interceptions. He is
known for pushing it down the field. And when we
talk about just who throws a prettier deep ball, man,
it is hard to beat that moon ball that Russell
Wilson drops down the chimney. Uh yeah, you can put
a big numbers, you know, until we see him, until
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we see what this offense looks like. It's hard for
me to forecast, but I do like, what potentially could
happen in dem if the pieces of the polls will
fall into place? All right, this next one, I mean,
does this Does this one shock you a little bit
here when we get to the next one, because the
next two guys are tied right above the two we
just mentioned, and those are yeah, Patrick Mahomes, okay at it?
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Carson Wentz. Carson Wentz was dark on a deep ball
last year. Buck Hey, DJ Like, it's one of those things.
And and here's what we're talking about, facts over feelings.
The one thing numbers do is it takes all the
emotion out. So whatever you think about Carson Wentz based
on how it played out for them at the end
of the year, when you look at the numbers, this
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is a remarkable stack. Look he completed, but of his
deep ball attempts seven to three touchdown interspituation, the passer
rating was one oh six. That we're doing the blind resume,
I don't think anybody would have put Carson Wentz his
face with those numbers. Maybe we need to go back
and maybe in Washington it might be a little bit
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of situation because the burners that they have on the outside.
Terry mclauren, Curtis Samuel. They may have some guys that play, yeah,
that plays to his strength. They have an opportunity to
really maybe maximize what his talents talents are as a player.
Think about that last year on deep falls Carson went
seven touchdowns, Patrick Mahomes seven touchdowns. Um, this is the
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big number. The completion percentage over expected. Carson Wentz was
plus ten point one per cent. Mahomes was plus four
point two percent. In other words, like Carson Wentz outperformed
on some of these throws, meaning he made some big
time special throws that were not supposed to be completed.
He found a way to get them in there. I
think of, gosh, what was it the game against Arizona
where he had some big time, big time throws earlier
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in the year there with the Colts. Now, obviously we
know how it ended in in in the game against Jacksonville,
but there is still some good there with Carson Wentz.
I found that quite fascinating. All right right above them, Um,
we have all by himself here Matthew Stafford in fifth spot.
When you look at his numbers, what jumps out and
what do you expect this year? Well, what jumps out
to me is just to ear volume in terms of
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the passing yards that he put passing yards. The other
thing that jumps out look a seven or seven touchdown
interception ratio, which is even so the efficiency in terms
of pushing the ball down the field was not exactly
what you would like. Um, but this is Matthew Stafford
and he has that gun slingker mentality. And some of
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those were early when O. B J was coming over.
He's trying to get O. B J invall trying to
push the ball down the field for some things. But look,
he's a threat. He makes you defend everybody of grass,
particularly down the field. Is one of those things that
you have to understand. This is who Matthew Stafford is,
and you're going to get some of those turners, but
you also get the big plays to come with it. Yeah,
I think with Stafford, I mean, anybody that throws a
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no looker in the Super Bowl with the game on
the line, with the game on the line exactly. So
to kind of see him kind of run up the
totals for both teams, you know, his and and the
opponents not a surprise because I mean was one of
the first guys, I guess you'd probably go back to
the guy you played with the Brett Farve where you
start hearing the term gun slinger. You know, it kind
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of became overused, but I don't know that there's a
more app description of Stafford than unslinger. Like he is
going to shoot his shot, He's not gonna leave, He's
not gonna leave the field going. Man. I wish I
would have been a little more aggressive. Nope, he's going
for it, absolutely going for and he's going for it
at all times. Uh. That's one of the things that
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has made him a fantastic player, and I know a
lot of it was lost during this time at Detroit.
We now have an opportunity to appreciate n l A
with the weapons that he has around him. He's the
guy that's gonna push the envelope. Sometimes it'll work against you,
but a lot of times it's really gonna work for you.
All Right, here we go. Now we're into the top four. Um,
Justin Herbert comes in at number four. I got a
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front row seat to watch this on a yearly basis,
But last year eight touchdowns, four interceptions and ninety nine
point three passer rating completion percentage plus seven point eight
percent over expected um so's he's he's scored a ninety
seven with his overall passing score. And you talk about
being able to push the ball vertically, buck the thing
that jumps out to me A lot of times when
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you think about guys that pushed the ball vertically, you
think about extend in place, which he can do some
of that. You think about just play deep play action,
and then being able to get the ball up early
and out. Some of these are within the pocket, bodies
around him, no platform to be able to step, and
he's in heavy dress throwing some of these balls, which
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is just ridiculous. It is ridiculous. And you know, DJ
is funny because there's this thing where we're bubbling up
about Justin Herbert being a superstar. I give Brandon's daily
tremendous amount of credit for really being bold in this
profit proclamation about his young quarterback, because the dude is
a star. And then when you look at the numbers
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and you see what he is actually doing, this guy's
the top five quarterback and you see it every week.
But I think on a grander scale, I think people
have to appreciate what he is and It's one of
the reasons why when we talk about the f C
West and how excited everyone is. I think you made
this proposal and pitch that they should put at least
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one a f C West game on prime time each
week because it's the battle of the quarterbacks. I mean,
we already have three of them now. Every quarterback is
on the list, Derek Carr, Pat Mahomes, Russell Wilson, and
now Justin Herbert. Every all top ten guys when it
comes to the deep ball, and Justin Herbert rings first.
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It's just one of those things when we talk about
quarterback playing, Justin Herbert he has to be in the
conversation as the top five guy. I'm with you on that.
And as we get to the top three guys in
terms of the deep ball, some interesting names here. I
think that's a fast surprise surprises. Yes, let's get to
number three on the list with a passing score of
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um against seven touchdowns, three picks on one eleven point
one pass rating, which is a huge number. The number
from me again, completion percentage over expected plus twelve point three,
so far exceeding what was expected on some of these plays.
And that's Kyler Murray a man who's who's looking for
a payday buck and somebody. When you talk about his
ability to extend place and then use his eyes, I
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think that was one of the things that stood out
to me. And when you're evaluating him to the draft process,
is he really did want to scramble the throw. He
had not wanted to take off and go to the
point where like, dude, you're so electric and dynamic, I
wish you'd use that quick little stride to go and
run more. But he likes to buy time to try
and push the ball down the field. Yeah, he wants
to buy time to push it down the field. But
you know, DJ, I think because of all the stuff
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around Cayler Murray, right, like some of the things that
you question, maybe from a leadership standpoint, some of the
body language stuff that you don't like. What it does
is he's allowed that part to overshadow the player that
he is pretty dark to think about. To think about
Cala Murray being third best on this list to put
up the numbers that he puts up pushing the ball
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down the field, you now understand why the Arizona Gardiners
are committed for him being the QB one for the future,
even though there's some debate about when they're going to
pay him and all that stuff. D the proof is
in the pudding, Like, these numbers are ridiculous, and I
know we have the lasting image from the playoff failure
where he lost against the Rams and those things, the numbers,
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the production, the performance. He has been a guy last year.
We're talking about him being a top five player. He
has that kind of talent. He is everything that you
want as a number one overall pick from a talent standpoint. Now,
if we can get the leadership stuff in the body
language stuff right, you talk about a bona fide superstar.
Those numbers are superstar caliber numbers. I'm with you, man,
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I'm with you. I think that that's why that that
check is gonna get written. Um is like I understand,
like they were frustrated. They wanted to guild deal to
get done on Kyler. Kyler's side with his camp, they're
gonna get it. I mean they're gonna get it and
they're gonna be happy with it. They're gonna paying a
ton of money. Um. Number two on the list. How
about this one, Matt Ryan Buck And this is uh,
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you know, with a score, so really he's he's tied
for first here. But Matt Ryan not a lot of
the attempts twenty forty two, so it's a huge completion
percentage on depauls forty seven point six is outstanding, you know,
three to one touchdowns the pics. Again, it's not a
big volume, but it's just really efficient completion percentage over
expected plus seventeen point eight percent. I think that speaks
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to a little bit of who he was working with
last year. There's no name receivers. Basically it was Kyle
Pitts and and uh and then crossed your fingers with
everybody else last year. So I don't know. I don't
know how much I read into this because I see
those numbers, but it's not a lot of volume there.
It's not a lot of volume of it. But but DJ,
it's wonder the reasons why I think, Uh, you're a
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little excited about, you know, Matt Ryan taking over because
we're looking at these numbers, right, and you're looking at
Matt Ryan, and you're right, it's not a high volume
in terms of the sample size, but the passer rating
one or seven point seven, he's very efficiently looked at
completion percentage forty seven point six. So now take those numbers,
but you have Matt Ryan replacing Carson Wentz, who put
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up great numbers in the same game offense. It's an
opportunity for Matt Ryan to maybe have a little bit
of a rebirth of resurgence on the as a quarterback
in the twilight of his career because this offense is
going to give him an opportunity to do what he
does really well, and throwing the deep ball is one
of those underrated parts of his game that he does
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really well. Yeah, I think the best way to summarize
the transition from Wentz to Matt Ryan is, you know,
I think with Carson, you're gonna see some of those
unbelievable plays. He's gonna hit the three five ft beyond
the line, he's gonna, he's gonna, he's gonna, you know,
he's gonna dunk on people and create these massive highlights.
Whereas with Matt Ryan, it's just like, just make the
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simple play. It's a two handed it's a two handed
chest pass, you know what I mean. Like he's just
gonna everything that's there. That's all they wanted to do,
Just just make the plays that they're there. We don't
need you to play really kind of outside the structure.
I don't think that's so it's gonna be fascinating to
kind of see the creativity. You maybe lose some of
that with Wentz, but the consistency you gain Matt Ryan. Yeah,
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the consistency is everything. And you already hear the reports
coming out about what he has been able to do
in the off season program, and I know it's offseason program,
and overally cares about like that stuff. What you're hearing
the players talk about his leadership, what he's added to
the team in terms of raising the standard, his ability
to challenge the wide receivers. But then everybody to a man,
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including Frank Wright, has talked about the accuracy. When you
add that accuracy on short, intermediate and now the deep ball,
this offense has a chance to expand because all that's
gonna be on Jonathan Taylor. Now you get an opportunity
to take advantage of defense is really over committing to
stopping what I think is probably one of the best
running games in football. Yeah, that division, Man, they're gonna
run the rock in that division alright. Tied up there
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with him at Number one was Josh Allen. No surprise
there more volume here nine fifty four yards, five touchdowns,
two picks, a hundred point seven pass rating. He was
only plus seven point eight in terms of completion percentage
over expected, which means they've got some stuff dialed up
to get guys open, and he's kind of made those happen. Um.
But again, the score there as good as it gets,
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and that that one doesn't surprise him. When you think
about big, strong, you know, big plays. I think Josh
Allen's probably you know him and Justin Herbert to me
in terms of cutting that image at Mahomes obviously like
those guys kind of to me, I think of vertical pastors,
those guys come to mind. Yeah, I think of that.
I think he's built to be a big place specialist.
I think you go back and watch him at Wyoming,
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you had an opportunity to see that a ton um
throwing it down the field. In Buffalo. He has become
a more accurate passer on short, intermediate, and even deep
because early in his career he struggled with the deep ball.
Well now he's dropping that thing in and with the
guy his size, with his athleticism, and running skills, able
to push the ball. He's different man. He's he's a
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different player. This is the year that I think he
has to buy her. He will buy for the m
v P. Everything has lined up for him to do it.
He's matured into and look the top five quarterback who
as m v P caliber stuff. Now it's time for
him to play like that in the deep ball will
be a big part of how he plays and performs
at that m v P level. All right, let's take
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a quick break. We're gonna come back here and touch
on some rookie quarterbacks before we wrap it up. All right, Buck,
just quick, as we wrapped this one up today, I
wanted to look at these rookie quarterbacks and I want
to just kind of give me a number and then
we'll bounce back and forth on this. I want to
say right now what you believe? And we got got
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plenty of time once we get through training camp, season, preseason. Well,
I would better feel for this, but I want to
know the number of starts for some of these rookies.
You're ready to go, okay, yeah, so let's let's start
with Kenny Pickett. How many starts with Kenny Pickett this year,
I think eight. I think he starts half the year
for the team. I don't think he wins the job
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right out of training camp. I think that goes to
one of the veterans, namely Mitch to biscuity. But by
about the midway point, I think Kenney Pickett will have
settled in enough that he will get an opportunity need
to lead this team. And once he gets in the game,
I think he stays in the game. So give me
eight starts on Canny pick eight starts on Canny Pickett. Okay,
I like that. I was gonna lean towards I was
gonna go I was gonna go ten. I'm gonna go
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a little bit over that and say that we do
see Travisky here at the start of the season. Um,
but it's gonna be it's gonna be a fun competition
to watch. I don't think he starts week one. I
think we're on the same page there, eight to ten starts.
I think we're kind of speaking the same language there.
How about how about Desmond Ritter with the Falcons. Look,
I'll go four, um, and I would say four is
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just due to maybe some injuries. Whatever they would say
injuries with Mariota's probably picks him on the field, yeah,
ankle sprain or something like that. He gets an opportunity
to go in the field, gives them a chance to
get like a little sneak peek at what they have
in the third round quarterback, and then after that they'll
make a determination where he plays. But I think four
is a nice safe number. Yeah, I'm gonna say three
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or four. Yeah, I'm with you. I think we're seeing
the same thing here. I think that Mariota, I don't
know that he's gonna make it through a whole season. Um,
But again, would you be shocked if Marcus being out there?
If Marcus went down in the third week of the season,
and then if Ritter ends up starting the most games
of any rookie, that wouldn't surprise me. Now, I wouldn't
surprise me because remember, look at all the young guys
that have played to play last year, Look at all
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the different quarterbacks that played. They had opportunities to be
an opportunity for him to play. Yeah, and he's gonna
he's gonna learn to playbook in two seconds. I mean,
everybody raped about how smart he is and how sharp
he is so he'll be able to pick that up.
So again, I think it's it's determined on the health
of Mariot. I don't think he's gonna beat him out,
but you know, Marcus has has had injuries in the past,
so that'd be something to keep an eye on. All Right,
Malik Willis with the Titans. He I mean he's he's
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not starting games this year? Is he back? No? I
think he's a richer. He's a richer in candidate. This
is this is Ryan Santehills. I think it would have
to be a crazy, wild circumstance and situation to give
Malik Willis an opportunity. I think this is his opportunity
to get better on the practice field, to prepare for
an opportunity to potentially play in How about this, Is
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there a chance he played ease in games but just
doesn't start games. Like, here's the thing. Everybody always talks
about these packages. I've done it. We're gonna give these
guys a package of plays. They never do. It never happens.
Remember I said that it didn't happen. Yeah. I think
it's too hard. I think it's too hard to disrupt
the flow of the game to get him and they
had they need to have a package of plays ready
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in case he does have to play, but to stop
the flow of the game to say, hey, Malik Willis,
we're gonna come in and basically use it as a
wild at quarterback. No, I think they rolled with Ryan
Tannehill and too. Ryan Tannehill gives them a reason not to.
I think the veterman I played well. I don't think
we'll see Milieu Willis this year, all right, Bailey Zappy
was the next pick. I don't I think we're on
the same page. I mean unless something happening playing. Uh,
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Sam how will be the last one there in Washington.
You know, we just talked about Carson Wentz a little
bit earlier about how efficient effect if he was on
the deep ball. What do you think do we see
Sam How your your tar heel this year? I give
him one game, one one game. We'll give him one game,
just like this is the prices right, and I put
to be it for one dollar. Look, I'm gonna go
one game with Sam How just because d year we
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talked a little earlier. There are so many quarterbacks that
got on the field last year, um that that I
would just kind of bank on. Maybe something happening to
the one in the two quarterback that gives Sam howl
an opportunity to play. I think that's what happens. Didn't
we see Ian booked last year play for the Saints? Maybe? Yeah,
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So maybe this is an opportunity Sam how it gets
the opportunity to run through the run out of tunnel
here's name call run the offense for a game before
he goes back to one of the veterans. Yeah. Yeah,
because you gotta remember he's not on deck. He's in
the hole, you know, like he's not. He's starting out
as number three, not as most of these guys are
coming in at least at number two. So he's got
to climb over a couple of guys to get into
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the game. But I don't know why. I just got
a sense that maybe we see him for for a
few games this year, so we'll see how it all
shakes out. But I thought he was kind of almost
criminally underdrafted. He had not deserved to fall as low
as he did in this draft. That I actually believe,
even Sam How, I think he's got a shot to
be a good starter. So I'll say I'll say three
or four. I think he gets his he gets out there,
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carsonal get hurt, see what happens behind a key, But
he'll he'll find his way on the field at some
point in time. So we're kind of we're very similar
in all those we are. We're like, see, we've been
doing it for too long. We're coming from the same
viewpoint on all this. One thing we know, young quarterbacks
don't have an opportunity to play. These guys have to
get up and get ready to play as starters, regardless
of whether their teams tell them like, hey, this is
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a richer year. As they always say in football, you
want play away. You have one play and trying again,
one play in the regular season can change everything in
an instant. And you could do to justin herber thing, Hey,
by the way, you find us for the game you're starting.
How about that? Ok? Here we go, Oh man, yeah
that was I still just see me in my going
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like what is going on? Is this real? Uh? Bizarre? Anyways,
all right, that's gonna do it for us today. We
appreciate you guys hanging with us, and we'll catch you
next time. Right here on moving sticks. Not ut have
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