March 20, 2025 • 30 mins
On the latest episode of Move the Sticks, Daniel Jeremiah, Bucky Brooks, and Rhett Lewis check in from Ford Center at the Star in Dallas for the Big 12 Pro Day, breaking down the standout draft prospects who caught their attention. Later, they’re joined by Colorado head coach Deion Sanders and his son, Shedeur Sanders, one of the top quarterback prospects in the 2025 NFL Draft, to discuss his development, preparation, and future in the league.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
And now Move the Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
What's up, everybody?
Speaker 3 (00:07):
Welcome to Move the Sticks, DJ, Bucky and Rhett with you.
We are at the Big Twelve Pro Days. A couple
of days here watching all the top players from the
Big Twelve go.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Through their workouts.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
Covered it on NFL Network and that's going to be
what the podcast is today is going to be running
back some of the interviews we did. Really two big
ones which are in the same family. She Door Sanders
along with the coach Prime Dion Sanders are gonna join
so we have a chance to roll those interviews back.
Buck as we're recording this right now, is down in
the field grabbing some other interviews for television.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
RTT. How you doing, man? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (00:42):
Good? Fired up? Man? It was good.
Speaker 5 (00:44):
Did you get a chance to spend some time, you
know with Prime right and you know, talk to him
a little bit. We had some fun with him. Talk
to him about the the old tea step, do not
te step in front of Coach Prime if you are
a defensive back going through some of these drills.
Speaker 4 (00:57):
Also get a chance to talk to him about, you.
Speaker 5 (00:59):
Know, the narrative or as he called it lies surrounding
his son Shador Sanders, and some of the interviews that
happened at the Combine, So you hear all that coming up.
But first let's kick off a little hot or Not
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we get a look at some of the players we
saw today and really over the course of the week
(01:20):
here at the Big twelve Pro Day, a couple of days'
worth of workouts and look we saw some speed, you know,
and that's that's always hot when it comes to NFL
talent evaluation.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
But DJ, what sticks out to you overall about the event?
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Yeah, it was a great event. I mean, we justed
to see how long it continues to exist. Really, I'm
curious that people like it. Do the teams like it,
the schools like it, do the scouts like it? It
is convenient, you know, to have everybody under one roof
here and to watch these guys go through the paces.
But to me, the thing about when you get events
like this or the Combine or All Star Games where
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we have a bunch of different schools represented, you do
get a glimpse of what the strengths and weaknesses are
of the class and I think the running back group
is very strong. Here saw some good backs. DJ Giddens
going to the workout. We saw Oli Gordon had a
nice workout catching the ball out of Oklahoma State. So
a couple of those running backs did a nice job.
Tight end group overall in the draft is pretty deep.
(02:14):
Jalen Conyers look good run around here from Texas Tech.
So those two positions stood out. And then I'm always
looking for guys that I can kind of pull out
of the pile, guys who maybe aren't on the radar,
non combine players who pops A couple guys from Baylor
led by Monterey Baldwin, I would say, jumped on the radar.
Monterrey balder in four three two, little undersize wide receiver
with a ton of juice.
Speaker 5 (02:35):
Yeah, and that was fun to watch, right because that
peaks our interest, catches our eyes.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
Certainly.
Speaker 5 (02:39):
Garman Randolph from Baylor on Day one as part of
the D line group, you know, big, kind of kind
of tweeter d n D Tana Cole type of body,
but ran four to seven, which.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
You'd love to see.
Speaker 5 (02:50):
So there's definitely some good performances out there from the
athletic testing saw guys run around real well. Stoveball from
Arizona State stood out to me in that group, and
then you had Brendan Presley from Oklahoma State. Look, he's
got the production. Three hundred and fifteen receptions over the
course of his career. They relied on him in pressure situations.
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I was actually I was talking to Mike Mike Gundy
about it, their head coach. He's like, look, you may
not wow you with his size and his speed, but
the production right the pressure situations, third down, fourth down
type of throws, you got to have it at the stick,
so you got to have it in the red zone.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
They went Presley's way, but he came out here and
ran four four six.
Speaker 5 (03:27):
I mean that is plenty good enough, you know, to
get it done at the receiver spot in the league.
And I think he's going to have some people that
kind of go back and watch some of that, and
I think, you know, he was getting some some of
the coaches that are here in attendance running some of
these drills. We're spending some time and talking with him there.
So I thought that was that was kind of interesting
to see on that front.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
If we're talking hot or not, I would go hot
on those ones, I would go hot.
Speaker 5 (03:49):
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Speaker 3 (04:00):
Let's uh, let's get to a couple of these interviews here.
This is pulled right off of our television conversations uh.
First of all with Dion Sanders, head coach for the
Colorado Buffaloes, followed by our conversation with his son, Shodoor Sanders,
one of the top quarterback prospects in this year's draft.
Speaker 5 (04:18):
Bucky Brooks down on the field, and so is coach
Prime with US head coach at Colorado coach Big hello
from us up here in the booth. Ret and DJ
appreciate you stopping by. And uh boy, a man known
for being one of the fastest ever play in the NFL.
I'm sure you still get some entertainment out of watching
these guys run the forty, don't you.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
I love it. It's exciting. I love it. But the nervousness,
I don't. I never understood how someone gets nervous to
do what you've been gifted to do. How you get
nervous to run. Come on, man, and right now we're
a gunshot right now.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
What will we do? We gonna run, thank you, no hesitation,
we gonna run.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
Hey coach.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
First of all, I'm gonna push Rhett, and then you
get two parts to Hey coach, how proud are you
of your kids? Man, getting a chance to see not
only your sons, but your your guys from Colorado out
here competing.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Truly proud?
Speaker 1 (05:09):
I mean my son Bucky, who does all of the
AUDIHI and the video the stuff. He's right down from me.
But to see Lejimmy, lejohnte Uh, to see all our
guys will, to see all the chanor shallows here. I
saw Big Chadozi yesterday and some of the other guys
is unbelievab. Bj Green did the doghole thing run. I
absolutely love it, man. It's it's like a proud father
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seeing your kids, you know, graduate, so to speak.
Speaker 6 (05:35):
Prome, I got to say this, and I don't even
know Redd and DJ don't notice, but I feel like
your ascension to being a college coach came from these
conversations that we used to have in the call Sunday nights,
and you were coaching high school then, and you kind
of let the word out, like Buck, I want to
go coach college. Why did you not only feel like
you could coach at the collegiate level, but not that
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you can succeed at.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
The coat Well, first of all, when you're playing NFL
at a certain level, I think the coordinators come to
you for understanding and wisdom on what you should do
to approach the opposing team. And I was one of
those guys that I remember Ray Rose, what you're gonna do?
Speaker 2 (06:09):
What you want to do?
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Gap, I said, give me that, y'all deal with the rest.
I mean, it was like in Max Zimmery, some of
the wonderful coordinators that I played for. It was phenomenal.
Then getting into youth ball, it was a straight procession.
High school ball didn't start saying, you know what, I'm
a chill. Then the opportunity came and I had to
jump into opportunity. Unfortunately, my kids wanted.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
To come with that. Lo It's been great. We had
some good conversations we did.
Speaker 6 (06:37):
I mean, I just remember coming in sometimes sometimes as
you would saying, sometimes I get the bear.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Sometimes the bear would get you.
Speaker 6 (06:43):
And so to think about the growth that you've kind
of made as a head coach, going from Jackson State
and then Colorado, having some would say a tough season
at Colorado was bouncing back.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
What has been the key to the.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Turnarounds consistency, wisdom and understanding the plan is the plan
and do not dd eight from the plan or the standard.
We always knew we're gonna win. It's just gonna be
a matter of time. I'm a darned winner. Man, I'm
gonna win. It's just a matter of time to do
so and to reveal that to everyone. And you got
to get the players. You got to get the players.
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You got to get the dogs that's able to produce
what you see in your mind.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
You know so, and think about the players.
Speaker 6 (07:23):
Most coaches who start and build a team, they always
talk about the quarterback. You've had to obviously the luxury
of coaching your son. What makes you there so special?
Shador is a winner. Shadoor is very intelligent, very understanding.
Like when we used to travel when they were kids,
going through the airport and we in the Admirals Club
or whatever.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Relax and we were on the board.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
Man, I was writing defenses up on the board and
they were trying to figure out how to beat me,
he and Shallow. So we've always been a football minded
family and we always understood what was next. We always
rose to the occasion, and we always exceeded ex dictation.
And we can handle pressure. We applied pressure. We didn't
receive pressure. We applied it. But that young man, I
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can't wait to see where he goes. I can't wait
to see what he does. I know what he's going
to do, and I can't wait to see he and
Shallow at the next level.
Speaker 5 (08:13):
Hey, coach Prime, you know we're talking about evaluating, you
know guys, and you're talking about improvement and preparation, you know,
over the course of a lifetime. But once they get
to you at Colorado, you know, not only with yourself,
but you've hired guys with big time NFL backgrounds, Right,
Coach Sap, coach Fat, coach Shermer. How does that help
in their development at the college level for moments like
this today.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Well, first of all, I had to identify who I
am as a coach, who I am as a person,
who I am as a man, And I'm more attracted
and I vibe more with professional coaches and professional players
that have been there and done that. That's not saying
nothing against collegiate coaches, because they are phenomenal and they
have kicked our butts. But my consistency, my relationship, I'm
very relational with those guys and understanding those guys that
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have matriculated from the professional level. That's what I want,
That's what I look at to hire. That's what I
want these guys to learn from. I want these guys
to learn from people that have been there and done that.
So when they're talking, they're talking with power and substance
and stability and to know how and they know it.
So when you talk Warren Staff talking about past Rush,
(09:17):
Marshall Fall and all these guys that we have, I
mean Pat and Rob and we got a whole Dern
coaching summit right in the locker room, man, and I
love it.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
Coach you you talk about scouting and bucking and I
talking about it all the time, and you're recruiting. It's
it's a lot of similarities there. What have you learned
from your time on this side of it, you know,
the playing side, then the coaching side. That's helped you
in the recruiting process of identifying the right here, you.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Got to understand who you are and what you want.
We look for a smart, tough, past disciplined young man
with character. I mean, education is very vital for me,
but I don't want no dumb student. I don't want
no dumb football player, because if you get a dumb
students with a dumb football player, I don't want to
want that. So we're looking for guys with a level
of intelligence, not on on and off the field, the
guys that want to work, the guys that that in
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love of the game, and I want to know their why.
I want to what makes them go, what makes them
get up in the morning, what motivates them when they
don't feel like it. I need to identify that why.
And once we come into a commonality. Everybody ain't built
for us, and we ain't built for everybody. But the
ones that are, I love them, but they know what
they're signing up for. We practice in the morning, we
work out butts off, we get off the field, we
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study a little more, then we go tackle those academics.
Speaker 5 (10:27):
So, yeah, coaches, you know, it's obviously it's about the work, right,
It's about the production that comes from that work.
Speaker 4 (10:33):
And you've been through this process, right, the draft process.
Speaker 5 (10:36):
Kind of gone through outlook gets changed a little bit,
search changed a lot. Yeah, but you know seeing your son,
you know Shador in particular, you know, go through it
and you know, go through his time at the Combine
and then you start to see some of the reports
come out about the interviews and about you know, that
was a lot. Yeah, So tell us a little bit
about how you know, you've prepared you know, Shador to
deal with that sort of thing as it follows him through.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
You mean, their lives or what's just take one out
of time. Let's just say anything always been built for
this man. I mean we we we've done this. We
got records, we got we got tape, we got factual
evidence of doors ten and twelve years old. Tell me
about this, Tell me about that. You know, how do
you feel as a kid. We we practiced and we
(11:18):
hurst this stuff. So he's well poised in front of
the camera as you just saw, as the world have
seen for a multitude of years. But the lies, that's
gonna be that. But we're great with adversity. We've we've
always been through adversity. We've always been challenged with adversity
in the Nacy and and the Dowdy, and he is
built for that. He's the most qualified young man that
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plays that position, that's built for that and to build
and to be in front of the lights and to
still continuously shine. We like to call that stuff out
though I know who it is. You're gonna make me
call him out?
Speaker 7 (11:50):
You know what?
Speaker 1 (11:51):
Team?
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Yeah, Yo, we don't. We don't got to understand it, I.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Know, but don't make me pull behind the curtage to
step in that thing. I'm kind of CAUs to be
honest on the high road, but I don't know the address.
Speaker 6 (12:06):
We will keep it on the high road and the
way we're gonna stay on the high road. We're gonna
talk about one of your other sons, be Travis Hunter. Yes,
you were able to look do a great job of recruiting.
You flipped him. He followed you to Jackson STATEE then
he followed you to Colorado. Look, he's one of the
best two way players that we've seen. The best, not
one of the best, the best, the best that ever
did it. Let's let's talk a little bit about him,
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Like what did you see in him and what he became.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Want, desire, willingness, to learn to listen and to work.
And a guy that won't work is a guy that
it won't work.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
Say I'm gonna say that again. A guy that don't work,
it won't work.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
Travis Hunter loves the game. He's not in like with it.
He's in love with the game. Don't really care necessities
about who he is and the accolades that he possessed.
This guy loves to play the game of football.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
You know, and so much of the conversation is you.
Speaker 6 (13:00):
You were one of the only ones to be able
to do it full time in Dallas. You play cornerback
and wide receiver. Travis and you have both talked about
his ability to do it at the next level.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Why would he be able to do it? He don't
know any other way. What else would he do?
Speaker 1 (13:15):
Just sit there but decide the water cooler wide of offense
out there getting they bus kicked and you got the
best receiver probably on your team over there sitting down
with the coach waiting on his turn to go back
onto the field. That does not make sense to me,
just because the person hadn't done this in the majority
of the NFL. Don't tell you what, don't say what.
Another man can't do. We hadn't seen some of the
things Patrick Mahomes is doing. We hadn't seen some of
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the things some of these wonderful athletes are doing right now.
Travis Hunter can do whatever he desires to do if
given the opportunity, and it's going to take the right
team to give him that opportunity.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
Okay, now we're talking about opportunity.
Speaker 6 (13:49):
This is opportunity for you to tell me about the
next generation of players at Colorado. Amazon is outs And
then actual assumption is that y'all gonna fall back to
the pain.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
Why be different from like a DJ the record keep
playing baby, just because we changed the song. We gotta
keep playing in the record. Let's keep playing. Let's keep playing.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
We got some young men that can get They may
not be sure Shiloh or Travis or any of the
guys that played phenomenal for especially those receivers, but I
think we're gonna have I don't think I know we're
gonna have a better team. We won't have two players
like that this year, but we will have a better team.
We got some corners that can lock down. They should
be ranked high in the draft going into next season.
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The linebackers I think are more agile and and we
have more depth in the front offensive and defensive line.
Marshall Falgus coaching the backs, so you gonna see a
influx of talent there as well as well as the receivers.
They may not be the four guys that are here,
but we have some receivers that can go get it.
And the kicking game is special. That's why they call
it special teams cause.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
You've always thought, You've always thought outside the box.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
I love your idea about bringing somebody into Boulder to
see a different group of guys for the spring.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Is that looking like that could actually happen? I'm praying so.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
I mean, we have the best commission in the game,
and I'm thinking it should happen.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Why not?
Speaker 1 (15:12):
Why Now we got a lot of teams opting out
and we don't do something to say of the spring
game in college football is going to dissipate.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
It's going to vanish.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
We want to play in the spring, but we want
something from it, Like I want to do what the
pros do, and we emulated to imitate pros.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
All right, let's have a joint practice.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
The practice with you for three days then I want
to play, and I want to give the fans a
wonderful show, and we want to work it out and
we want to get somebody. But I'm tired of my
guys beating up on each other that don't make sense.
I don't know if I'm garbage or now.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
I could have a horrible team based on him going
against the other guy he's going against. I don't know.
I want to know where I am, where I stand,
so I can make necessary changes in the portal.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
Okay, coach, when you put out the bat signal, did
you hear from some teams?
Speaker 2 (15:57):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Yes, Lord, And let me give much love and much
respect to my dear friend and my brother friend Brown Syracuse.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
I love him to life.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
I'm praying that he's the guy that's gonna make that
jump his university. We've already communicated Frying. I love you
and I appreciate you. I'm praying that it happens. It's
not going to just be about football. It's gonna be
about financial literacy. It's gonna be about everything. It's gonna
be about academics as well. We're gonna do a joint
thing with both teams. If we could make this happen.
Speaker 6 (16:26):
Now because you're so relational, like it's always been a
thing for you, coaching transformational and you do so many
things outside of talking ball.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Why is that part of it important to yours area?
Where we are?
Speaker 1 (16:38):
Because relations right out of this we put this back
down what we are are we buddies and it don't
just it's not just about this game. We talked because
we talk because we like this guys on the air.
When I work with this wonderful network, NFL network, I
still have those same relationships and our treasure relationships. It's
not a guy that's hired to see you that some
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form of way that the relationship wasn't there and in existence,
and that's why they got the job and that's why
they're on the staff and that's why they're helping me
reach our destination.
Speaker 6 (17:12):
Okay, last thing for me, where's where's that destination where
we're trying to go?
Speaker 2 (17:16):
I mean what you mean, what's your door?
Speaker 8 (17:18):
No?
Speaker 6 (17:18):
No, no, talking about talking about Colorado where we're going to
the tower, to the mountain top.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
You see me looking up, looking up, don't you?
Speaker 1 (17:26):
You see me looking up, don't you We're trying to
win it all man, it's only one goal.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
Tell us coming.
Speaker 4 (17:33):
On Prime real real quick.
Speaker 5 (17:36):
You know one thing we miss about having you, you know,
an NFL network on our combine card.
Speaker 4 (17:40):
You're gonna give anybody the tea step. We didn't get
into the tea step at all.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
Oh my god, he does stuff. You know, everybody got
that one son that you have to pray about all
the time. He is the one number one son.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
You know, everybody got their son to keep you on
your knees and praying that they grew up in the
same house, but they're totally different.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
He is the one. Want to thank you for just
keeping it. I love my son. That's awesome.
Speaker 4 (18:05):
That's awesome.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
All right.
Speaker 7 (18:08):
We asked the question about the tea steps. Oh yes,
that's always the debate. Let me tell you something, okay,
let me let me teach you real quick. Please, how
stupid the T step is. I'm gonna teach you real now.
You're gonna help me. Oh okay, okay, okay, okay. We're
gonna walk backwards. Then we're gonna walk for it.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Let's walk backwards. Now, let's stop and walk for it.
Why didn't you teach step? I mean, I mean, why didn't.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
You tea stuff. Okay, let me show you how stupid
that is. Look, I'm gonna walk backwards. Then I'm gonna
walk for who does that? What fool does that? What
idiot does that?
Speaker 4 (18:44):
Hey?
Speaker 2 (18:45):
If that's what about?
Speaker 4 (18:49):
That's right, that's right.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
If one of my players do that, I'm ripping his
face mass off the rest of the game without a face.
Speaker 4 (18:57):
How much time you spend with the DBS in practice?
Speaker 1 (18:59):
I don't spend quite a bit because I gotta go everybody. Yeah,
I gotta go, But but I'm over there first. That's
the first drill, that's the first position group that I
go to, and I'm able to grab the guys and
put him out and you know, put my little flavor
on him. But I may call him to the office
later on.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
And yeah, yeah, and you got to coach Matthew, Kevin
Matthews there too. Come on that.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
That's right, that's you know, that's twenty four years of
experience there. You're gonna get checked. We're gonna have something
to say, and we want you to get out of
bed bumping and running. You gotta get out of bed
bumping and run if you want to play, if you
want to play, for see you gotta get out of
the bed bumping and run.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
No t steps steps all right, t steps you getting
you getting.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
I can't slap you because it's against rue, but I
can trip your face mass on that.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
That's right.
Speaker 8 (19:45):
All right?
Speaker 4 (19:45):
Hey, coach Prime, you're the best man.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
Thanks gonna wear You said he's gonna You said he
was going first, right, you tell us deep what you said,
and you said Charlotte is gonna within him.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
That's what you said. That's what Jo said, Team's go.
That's what Joe said.
Speaker 4 (20:00):
You talk about perfect parents draft.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
I'm so tired of these monks. You got guys giving
mock draft I ain't never heard of before. Somebody asked
your ranked twenty if I wanted to rip the TV
screen off?
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Who is that guy?
Speaker 4 (20:11):
Great question.
Speaker 9 (20:12):
We're going to find that person right now and let
them know. All right, coach try, thank you, Yes, I
am here with you. Were saying, this is you're Sanders
that just heard on the PA that you're not working out.
Speaker 8 (20:30):
It was kind of I didn't expect to hear my
name today. I didn't expect that.
Speaker 6 (20:35):
Look, man, so much conversation about you. How's the pre
draft process treating you?
Speaker 8 (20:41):
It's cool. I'll say it's definitely a learning experience that
a lot of things aren't in your control. And just
getting the nods from Dad and just coach, family and
friends and everybody you know that's supporting me and helping
me through this process. It's extremely important and I'm thankful
that I have those resources.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
You know, and think about those those resources.
Speaker 6 (20:59):
You talk about your dad, and your dad obviously has
walked a great walk in the pros. What are some
of the things that you've learned from him to kind
of help you throughout this journey.
Speaker 8 (21:07):
Well, we always understood to block out the noise, even
from Jackson State and Colorado. It's a lot of critics,
it's a lot of hate, but we know what to do.
We know how to handle that in every way, so
we remain happy.
Speaker 6 (21:20):
You know, and thinking about that, Like your journey is
one that some would say it's unorthodox. You go to
Jackson State for a couple of years, you guys kill it.
You go to Colorado, you turn around that program. Just
talk about the special qualities that you bring to a
team in terms of helping a program turn around.
Speaker 8 (21:35):
Well was another recipe of it. I was heavily involved
in I was almost a GM for the for the
both of the teams because I knew what pieces I wanted.
And you know, when we got to Colorado, I already,
i would say, was stable in the college in the
college area to where I knew exactly what I want.
It wasn't just coach saying these guys are gonna get.
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It was me actually going out there getting those guys
knowing we're receiving, are gonna fit my eye, knowing, uh,
everybody has to compliment each other, knowing, you know which
O line guys we gotta get, we got to secure.
So I was heavily involved in that process from transitioning
from Jackson State to Colorado. So I kind of have
like a different type of viewpoint. I wasn't just going
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out there just playing ball.
Speaker 6 (22:19):
So what I hear you talk about is already stuff
that they talked about in the pros.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
A franchise quarterback.
Speaker 6 (22:24):
Franchise quarterback has relationships, and those relationships lead to success.
How do you build those bonds with your teammates.
Speaker 8 (22:30):
I'll say it's easy because of course everybody is able
to see, you know, what's going on from the outside.
So then when you pick up that phone and call
them like how I did with John Tate Western. You
know that he was ready for it, you know, and
then I just stayed on them, stay consistent talking to
him and made sure it happened because I knew that
was a guy that we needed on the team. And
Will also, you know, Will was a work in progress.
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He he didn't come the first year, but the second year,
you know, he came, and uh, he was happy about
that decision.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
You know.
Speaker 6 (22:59):
One of the things that I think makes you really
prepared to be a franchise quarterback is man You've been
on the stage, bright lights forever.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
That name carries a lot of weight and a lot
of significance.
Speaker 6 (23:10):
But there's also a lot of pressure that comes along
with being a Sanders. How have you been able to
navigate like the pressure and all the expectations that come
along with being a Hall of Famer Sun.
Speaker 8 (23:20):
I like the pressure that comes in everything. I'll say
pressure is also a privileged So if you don't have
pressure on you, then you know, I don't know what
you're doing. So that's why I'm thankful, when I'm truly
blessed that I am in a position in the situation
that I'm in because I wouldn't want no other way.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
You know, So putting on my scout hat.
Speaker 6 (23:40):
One of the things that strikes me just how comfortable
you are in your own skin, the way that you
come in, wear to change hats and all that other stuff.
So much of being successful is authentic, being authentic. How
are you able to just be so confident in all
environments when everyone is criticizing how you go about doing things,
playing walking around, et cetera.
Speaker 8 (23:59):
Cause you gonna be watching or you're gonna be talking
about it. It's gonna be one to two. So I'd
rather be the one, you know, getting talked about it
in the one just watching it hating on another guy.
So that's that's what I do. I got the most
respect for everybody you know that that has had some
type of success in their life, because I truly understand
how hard it is. So I think people take that
human factor out, how hard it is to get to
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that point, How hard it is for everybody out here
to even be able to perform, to be able to
even come here and work out in front of all
these scouts and stuff like. It's extremely hard. So I
never down talk, I never push down Nobody because I
know how hard it is, you know, to perform.
Speaker 6 (24:40):
You know, and thinking about like some of the special
relationships that you've developed over the years Tom Brady being
a guy that you can kind of lean on and
talk to and maybe solicit some advits from.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
When you've had those conversations, What has it been.
Speaker 8 (24:52):
Like, Well, I would say when we spoke the most
in depth, I'll say was early on in my college career.
So a lot of things that he would speak on,
would it, you know, registered to me till like now,
So now you know, my plan for the next couple
of weeks, in the next couple of months is go
back and rewatch you know, all the footage that we
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talked about, and then you know, now register more and
how you're saying turn your hips when you're throwing, create
torque and all that stuff. Like a couple of years ago,
I really didn't understand what that meant. But now it's like, okay,
I truly understand that. So that that's what it is,
is getting all the wisdom from everything that happened back then,
rewatching things like I don't watch TV, I just watched
old videos of myself.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
So and thinking about on the field in the game.
Speaker 6 (25:38):
There there's been a conversation about your style of play, right,
Everyone's talking about all the quarterback needs to be more
athletic in those things.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
But you're more of a throwback.
Speaker 6 (25:45):
You play from the pocket, You live in the pocket,
You play with touch, time and anticipation. Uh, why does
your style work and why would it continue to work
at the next level.
Speaker 8 (25:52):
I mean it always worked in the league. Look at
the history of the league. Now, everybody was you know,
big time runners back then, back in the day. So
you got the greatest quarterback ever time. Brady ain't run
too much. So I feel like the best thing for
me is to play from the pocket, and that's what
I'm most comfortable in now. The difference is is I'm
able to adjust to my team. So if I need
to be if I need to you know, take different
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type of drops, if I need to be able to
get a little bit more active, then then I'm able
to do that and adjust my game. So that was
a lot of what we did the first year, you
know in Colorado, I had to adjust my game to
get more success, you know, based off of what we
had on the rust.
Speaker 6 (26:30):
So understanding like the brand that you guys first created
at Jackson State, but then a Colorado y'all always got
everybody's best, right, And so as a quarterback, you're always
the target.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
You're always the one catching all the heat.
Speaker 6 (26:42):
How do you handle not only those expectations, but the
escalated temper to escalated performance and things that people come
at you. How do you handle that and continue to
stay within yourself?
Speaker 8 (26:52):
Well? Been like that from day one, you know. So
I don't expect no other way. I don't expect somebody
to bring their big game to the game. So that's
why I have to go to different heights when it
comes to training, when it comes to prepare and just
going about everything in life. Because the last name and
what it means, it's a certain type of standard that
you have to have. So we know, you know where
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to target where everybody's super bowl every time we step
on the field. So I'm not one that you know,
likes to get embarrassed.
Speaker 6 (27:20):
So and thinking about this, one thing scouts love to
do is we love to make comparisons. Right, We're trying
to say, like this player is gonna play like this
person at the next level. But when you see yourself,
who are some of the quarterbacks that you emulate that
you're padding in your game.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
After that, you can see yourself being at the next level.
Speaker 8 (27:35):
Yeah, it's not like you can say it's a comparison.
Everybody's their own weigh in, their own forming their own shape.
Not everybody had to deal with there's much pressure how
to deal with growing up through all everything that went on.
So if you put a lot of people in the situation,
you know, wheels in, not everybody would be able to
be the person I am today. So you know, you
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just got to see, you know, how everything pans out,
and I know what it's going to be. So it's
just time for you guys to see.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
Okay, last question.
Speaker 6 (28:03):
One thing that people get wrong about Shudur Sanders, like
the misconception. What's one thing that we have it wrong
when it comes to how we evaluate you, how we
talk about you in those lives.
Speaker 8 (28:14):
I don't know, because I mean truthfully, like the opinions
don't matter to me. So you know, I live in
my own space, in my own world. So when everybody's
on the ouside saying I don't know what people get
wrong or anything like that, you.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
Know, that's it. I don't know, all right, well I
know this.
Speaker 6 (28:29):
I know some NFL teams gonna get it right when
they call your name on draft weekend.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
Well, there you have it. Hope you guys enjoyed those.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
Rhett was great, great event, great opportunity to catch up
with Coach Prime, great opportunity to catch up with Shador.
I love the idea of scrimmaging another team in the spring.
I think I hope that that ends up happening. I
absolutely love that idea.
Speaker 4 (28:52):
Yeah, it was a great question.
Speaker 5 (28:52):
I'm glad you brought that up with Coach Prime and
has been one of the you know, kind of trending
hot topics in college football. So many teams are getting
rid of spring games, but Coach Prime trying to go
the opposite direction and turn it into something meaningful for
his program and for his players, which we'd love to
see certainly. And we appreciate the Big Twelve, appreciate Commissioner
Brett you Ormark for putting this event together, for giving
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us the ability to come and cover it the way
we did.
Speaker 4 (29:16):
And we had.
Speaker 5 (29:17):
Some great crew, great production staff, getting us caught up
on all things that we needed to to bring you
guys the best of this coverage. If you missed any
of that, that'll be on NFL Network throughout and we'll
be back with some more Pro Day coverage and some
more Pro Day recaps right here on Move the Sticks
next week, following cam Ward's Pro Day at Miami, which
you can see live on NFL Network Monday, four thirty
(29:38):
Eastern time, and I'm sure we'll be talking about that
in the episodes to follow next week right here on
Move the Stick.
Speaker 4 (29:44):
So for Bucky
Speaker 5 (29:45):
Brooks and Daniel Jeremia, I'm read Thois, we'll catch you
right here on Move the Sticks next time
And now Move the Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
What's up, everybody?
Speaker 3 (00:07):
Welcome to Move the Sticks, DJ, Bucky and Rhett with you.
We are at the Big Twelve Pro Days. A couple
of days here watching all the top players from the
Big Twelve go.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Through their workouts.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
Covered it on NFL Network and that's going to be
what the podcast is today is going to be running
back some of the interviews we did. Really two big
ones which are in the same family. She Door Sanders
along with the coach Prime Dion Sanders are gonna join
so we have a chance to roll those interviews back.
Buck as we're recording this right now, is down in
the field grabbing some other interviews for television.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
RTT. How you doing, man? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (00:42):
Good? Fired up? Man? It was good.
Speaker 5 (00:44):
Did you get a chance to spend some time, you
know with Prime right and you know, talk to him
a little bit. We had some fun with him. Talk
to him about the the old tea step, do not
te step in front of Coach Prime if you are
a defensive back going through some of these drills.
Speaker 4 (00:57):
Also get a chance to talk to him about, you.
Speaker 5 (00:59):
Know, the narrative or as he called it lies surrounding
his son Shador Sanders, and some of the interviews that
happened at the Combine, So you hear all that coming up.
But first let's kick off a little hot or Not
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we get a look at some of the players we
saw today and really over the course of the week
(01:20):
here at the Big twelve Pro Day, a couple of days'
worth of workouts and look we saw some speed, you know,
and that's that's always hot when it comes to NFL
talent evaluation.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
But DJ, what sticks out to you overall about the event?
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Yeah, it was a great event. I mean, we justed
to see how long it continues to exist. Really, I'm
curious that people like it. Do the teams like it,
the schools like it, do the scouts like it? It
is convenient, you know, to have everybody under one roof
here and to watch these guys go through the paces.
But to me, the thing about when you get events
like this or the Combine or All Star Games where
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we have a bunch of different schools represented, you do
get a glimpse of what the strengths and weaknesses are
of the class and I think the running back group
is very strong. Here saw some good backs. DJ Giddens
going to the workout. We saw Oli Gordon had a
nice workout catching the ball out of Oklahoma State. So
a couple of those running backs did a nice job.
Tight end group overall in the draft is pretty deep.
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Jalen Conyers look good run around here from Texas Tech.
So those two positions stood out. And then I'm always
looking for guys that I can kind of pull out
of the pile, guys who maybe aren't on the radar,
non combine players who pops A couple guys from Baylor
led by Monterey Baldwin, I would say, jumped on the radar.
Monterrey balder in four three two, little undersize wide receiver
with a ton of juice.
Speaker 5 (02:35):
Yeah, and that was fun to watch, right because that
peaks our interest, catches our eyes.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
Certainly.
Speaker 5 (02:39):
Garman Randolph from Baylor on Day one as part of
the D line group, you know, big, kind of kind
of tweeter d n D Tana Cole type of body,
but ran four to seven, which.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
You'd love to see.
Speaker 5 (02:50):
So there's definitely some good performances out there from the
athletic testing saw guys run around real well. Stoveball from
Arizona State stood out to me in that group, and
then you had Brendan Presley from Oklahoma State. Look, he's
got the production. Three hundred and fifteen receptions over the
course of his career. They relied on him in pressure situations.
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I was actually I was talking to Mike Mike Gundy
about it, their head coach. He's like, look, you may
not wow you with his size and his speed, but
the production right the pressure situations, third down, fourth down
type of throws, you got to have it at the stick,
so you got to have it in the red zone.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
They went Presley's way, but he came out here and
ran four four six.
Speaker 5 (03:27):
I mean that is plenty good enough, you know, to
get it done at the receiver spot in the league.
And I think he's going to have some people that
kind of go back and watch some of that, and
I think, you know, he was getting some some of
the coaches that are here in attendance running some of
these drills. We're spending some time and talking with him there.
So I thought that was that was kind of interesting
to see on that front.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
If we're talking hot or not, I would go hot
on those ones, I would go hot.
Speaker 5 (03:49):
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Speaker 3 (04:00):
Let's uh, let's get to a couple of these interviews here.
This is pulled right off of our television conversations uh.
First of all with Dion Sanders, head coach for the
Colorado Buffaloes, followed by our conversation with his son, Shodoor Sanders,
one of the top quarterback prospects in this year's draft.
Speaker 5 (04:18):
Bucky Brooks down on the field, and so is coach
Prime with US head coach at Colorado coach Big hello
from us up here in the booth. Ret and DJ
appreciate you stopping by. And uh boy, a man known
for being one of the fastest ever play in the NFL.
I'm sure you still get some entertainment out of watching
these guys run the forty, don't you.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
I love it. It's exciting. I love it. But the nervousness,
I don't. I never understood how someone gets nervous to
do what you've been gifted to do. How you get
nervous to run. Come on, man, and right now we're
a gunshot right now.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
What will we do? We gonna run, thank you, no hesitation,
we gonna run.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
Hey coach.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
First of all, I'm gonna push Rhett, and then you
get two parts to Hey coach, how proud are you
of your kids? Man, getting a chance to see not
only your sons, but your your guys from Colorado out
here competing.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Truly proud?
Speaker 1 (05:09):
I mean my son Bucky, who does all of the
AUDIHI and the video the stuff. He's right down from me.
But to see Lejimmy, lejohnte Uh, to see all our
guys will, to see all the chanor shallows here. I
saw Big Chadozi yesterday and some of the other guys
is unbelievab. Bj Green did the doghole thing run. I
absolutely love it, man. It's it's like a proud father
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seeing your kids, you know, graduate, so to speak.
Speaker 6 (05:35):
Prome, I got to say this, and I don't even
know Redd and DJ don't notice, but I feel like
your ascension to being a college coach came from these
conversations that we used to have in the call Sunday nights,
and you were coaching high school then, and you kind
of let the word out, like Buck, I want to
go coach college. Why did you not only feel like
you could coach at the collegiate level, but not that
(05:55):
you can succeed at.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
The coat Well, first of all, when you're playing NFL
at a certain level, I think the coordinators come to
you for understanding and wisdom on what you should do
to approach the opposing team. And I was one of
those guys that I remember Ray Rose, what you're gonna do?
Speaker 2 (06:09):
What you want to do?
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Gap, I said, give me that, y'all deal with the rest.
I mean, it was like in Max Zimmery, some of
the wonderful coordinators that I played for. It was phenomenal.
Then getting into youth ball, it was a straight procession.
High school ball didn't start saying, you know what, I'm
a chill. Then the opportunity came and I had to
jump into opportunity. Unfortunately, my kids wanted.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
To come with that. Lo It's been great. We had
some good conversations we did.
Speaker 6 (06:37):
I mean, I just remember coming in sometimes sometimes as
you would saying, sometimes I get the bear.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Sometimes the bear would get you.
Speaker 6 (06:43):
And so to think about the growth that you've kind
of made as a head coach, going from Jackson State
and then Colorado, having some would say a tough season
at Colorado was bouncing back.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
What has been the key to the.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Turnarounds consistency, wisdom and understanding the plan is the plan
and do not dd eight from the plan or the standard.
We always knew we're gonna win. It's just gonna be
a matter of time. I'm a darned winner. Man, I'm
gonna win. It's just a matter of time to do
so and to reveal that to everyone. And you got
to get the players. You got to get the players.
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You got to get the dogs that's able to produce
what you see in your mind.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
You know so, and think about the players.
Speaker 6 (07:23):
Most coaches who start and build a team, they always
talk about the quarterback. You've had to obviously the luxury
of coaching your son. What makes you there so special?
Shador is a winner. Shadoor is very intelligent, very understanding.
Like when we used to travel when they were kids,
going through the airport and we in the Admirals Club
or whatever.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Relax and we were on the board.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
Man, I was writing defenses up on the board and
they were trying to figure out how to beat me,
he and Shallow. So we've always been a football minded
family and we always understood what was next. We always
rose to the occasion, and we always exceeded ex dictation.
And we can handle pressure. We applied pressure. We didn't
receive pressure. We applied it. But that young man, I
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can't wait to see where he goes. I can't wait
to see what he does. I know what he's going
to do, and I can't wait to see he and
Shallow at the next level.
Speaker 5 (08:13):
Hey, coach Prime, you know we're talking about evaluating, you
know guys, and you're talking about improvement and preparation, you know,
over the course of a lifetime. But once they get
to you at Colorado, you know, not only with yourself,
but you've hired guys with big time NFL backgrounds, Right,
Coach Sap, coach Fat, coach Shermer. How does that help
in their development at the college level for moments like
this today.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Well, first of all, I had to identify who I
am as a coach, who I am as a person,
who I am as a man, And I'm more attracted
and I vibe more with professional coaches and professional players
that have been there and done that. That's not saying
nothing against collegiate coaches, because they are phenomenal and they
have kicked our butts. But my consistency, my relationship, I'm
very relational with those guys and understanding those guys that
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have matriculated from the professional level. That's what I want,
That's what I look at to hire. That's what I
want these guys to learn from. I want these guys
to learn from people that have been there and done that.
So when they're talking, they're talking with power and substance
and stability and to know how and they know it.
So when you talk Warren Staff talking about past Rush,
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Marshall Fall and all these guys that we have, I
mean Pat and Rob and we got a whole Dern
coaching summit right in the locker room, man, and I
love it.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
Coach you you talk about scouting and bucking and I
talking about it all the time, and you're recruiting. It's
it's a lot of similarities there. What have you learned
from your time on this side of it, you know,
the playing side, then the coaching side. That's helped you
in the recruiting process of identifying the right here, you.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Got to understand who you are and what you want.
We look for a smart, tough, past disciplined young man
with character. I mean, education is very vital for me,
but I don't want no dumb student. I don't want
no dumb football player, because if you get a dumb
students with a dumb football player, I don't want to
want that. So we're looking for guys with a level
of intelligence, not on on and off the field, the
guys that want to work, the guys that that in
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love of the game, and I want to know their why.
I want to what makes them go, what makes them
get up in the morning, what motivates them when they
don't feel like it. I need to identify that why.
And once we come into a commonality. Everybody ain't built
for us, and we ain't built for everybody. But the
ones that are, I love them, but they know what
they're signing up for. We practice in the morning, we
work out butts off, we get off the field, we
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study a little more, then we go tackle those academics.
Speaker 5 (10:27):
So, yeah, coaches, you know, it's obviously it's about the work, right,
It's about the production that comes from that work.
Speaker 4 (10:33):
And you've been through this process, right, the draft process.
Speaker 5 (10:36):
Kind of gone through outlook gets changed a little bit,
search changed a lot. Yeah, but you know seeing your son,
you know Shador in particular, you know, go through it
and you know, go through his time at the Combine
and then you start to see some of the reports
come out about the interviews and about you know, that
was a lot. Yeah, So tell us a little bit
about how you know, you've prepared you know, Shador to
deal with that sort of thing as it follows him through.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
You mean, their lives or what's just take one out
of time. Let's just say anything always been built for
this man. I mean we we we've done this. We
got records, we got we got tape, we got factual
evidence of doors ten and twelve years old. Tell me
about this, Tell me about that. You know, how do
you feel as a kid. We we practiced and we
(11:18):
hurst this stuff. So he's well poised in front of
the camera as you just saw, as the world have
seen for a multitude of years. But the lies, that's
gonna be that. But we're great with adversity. We've we've
always been through adversity. We've always been challenged with adversity
in the Nacy and and the Dowdy, and he is
built for that. He's the most qualified young man that
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plays that position, that's built for that and to build
and to be in front of the lights and to
still continuously shine. We like to call that stuff out
though I know who it is. You're gonna make me
call him out?
Speaker 7 (11:50):
You know what?
Speaker 1 (11:51):
Team?
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Yeah, Yo, we don't. We don't got to understand it, I.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Know, but don't make me pull behind the curtage to
step in that thing. I'm kind of CAUs to be
honest on the high road, but I don't know the address.
Speaker 6 (12:06):
We will keep it on the high road and the
way we're gonna stay on the high road. We're gonna
talk about one of your other sons, be Travis Hunter. Yes,
you were able to look do a great job of recruiting.
You flipped him. He followed you to Jackson STATEE then
he followed you to Colorado. Look, he's one of the
best two way players that we've seen. The best, not
one of the best, the best, the best that ever
did it. Let's let's talk a little bit about him,
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Like what did you see in him and what he became.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Want, desire, willingness, to learn to listen and to work.
And a guy that won't work is a guy that
it won't work.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
Say I'm gonna say that again. A guy that don't work,
it won't work.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
Travis Hunter loves the game. He's not in like with it.
He's in love with the game. Don't really care necessities
about who he is and the accolades that he possessed.
This guy loves to play the game of football.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
You know, and so much of the conversation is you.
Speaker 6 (13:00):
You were one of the only ones to be able
to do it full time in Dallas. You play cornerback
and wide receiver. Travis and you have both talked about
his ability to do it at the next level.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Why would he be able to do it? He don't
know any other way. What else would he do?
Speaker 1 (13:15):
Just sit there but decide the water cooler wide of offense
out there getting they bus kicked and you got the
best receiver probably on your team over there sitting down
with the coach waiting on his turn to go back
onto the field. That does not make sense to me,
just because the person hadn't done this in the majority
of the NFL. Don't tell you what, don't say what.
Another man can't do. We hadn't seen some of the
things Patrick Mahomes is doing. We hadn't seen some of
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the things some of these wonderful athletes are doing right now.
Travis Hunter can do whatever he desires to do if
given the opportunity, and it's going to take the right
team to give him that opportunity.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
Okay, now we're talking about opportunity.
Speaker 6 (13:49):
This is opportunity for you to tell me about the
next generation of players at Colorado. Amazon is outs And
then actual assumption is that y'all gonna fall back to
the pain.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
Why be different from like a DJ the record keep
playing baby, just because we changed the song. We gotta
keep playing in the record. Let's keep playing. Let's keep playing.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
We got some young men that can get They may
not be sure Shiloh or Travis or any of the
guys that played phenomenal for especially those receivers, but I
think we're gonna have I don't think I know we're
gonna have a better team. We won't have two players
like that this year, but we will have a better team.
We got some corners that can lock down. They should
be ranked high in the draft going into next season.
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The linebackers I think are more agile and and we
have more depth in the front offensive and defensive line.
Marshall Falgus coaching the backs, so you gonna see a
influx of talent there as well as well as the receivers.
They may not be the four guys that are here,
but we have some receivers that can go get it.
And the kicking game is special. That's why they call
it special teams cause.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
You've always thought, You've always thought outside the box.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
I love your idea about bringing somebody into Boulder to
see a different group of guys for the spring.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Is that looking like that could actually happen? I'm praying so.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
I mean, we have the best commission in the game,
and I'm thinking it should happen.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Why not?
Speaker 1 (15:12):
Why Now we got a lot of teams opting out
and we don't do something to say of the spring
game in college football is going to dissipate.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
It's going to vanish.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
We want to play in the spring, but we want
something from it, Like I want to do what the
pros do, and we emulated to imitate pros.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
All right, let's have a joint practice.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
The practice with you for three days then I want
to play, and I want to give the fans a
wonderful show, and we want to work it out and
we want to get somebody. But I'm tired of my
guys beating up on each other that don't make sense.
I don't know if I'm garbage or now.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
I could have a horrible team based on him going
against the other guy he's going against. I don't know.
I want to know where I am, where I stand,
so I can make necessary changes in the portal.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
Okay, coach, when you put out the bat signal, did
you hear from some teams?
Speaker 2 (15:57):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Yes, Lord, And let me give much love and much
respect to my dear friend and my brother friend Brown Syracuse.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
I love him to life.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
I'm praying that he's the guy that's gonna make that
jump his university. We've already communicated Frying. I love you
and I appreciate you. I'm praying that it happens. It's
not going to just be about football. It's gonna be
about financial literacy. It's gonna be about everything. It's gonna
be about academics as well. We're gonna do a joint
thing with both teams. If we could make this happen.
Speaker 6 (16:26):
Now because you're so relational, like it's always been a
thing for you, coaching transformational and you do so many
things outside of talking ball.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Why is that part of it important to yours area?
Where we are?
Speaker 1 (16:38):
Because relations right out of this we put this back
down what we are are we buddies and it don't
just it's not just about this game. We talked because
we talk because we like this guys on the air.
When I work with this wonderful network, NFL network, I
still have those same relationships and our treasure relationships. It's
not a guy that's hired to see you that some
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form of way that the relationship wasn't there and in existence,
and that's why they got the job and that's why
they're on the staff and that's why they're helping me
reach our destination.
Speaker 6 (17:12):
Okay, last thing for me, where's where's that destination where
we're trying to go?
Speaker 2 (17:16):
I mean what you mean, what's your door?
Speaker 8 (17:18):
No?
Speaker 6 (17:18):
No, no, talking about talking about Colorado where we're going to
the tower, to the mountain top.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
You see me looking up, looking up, don't you?
Speaker 1 (17:26):
You see me looking up, don't you We're trying to
win it all man, it's only one goal.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
Tell us coming.
Speaker 4 (17:33):
On Prime real real quick.
Speaker 5 (17:36):
You know one thing we miss about having you, you know,
an NFL network on our combine card.
Speaker 4 (17:40):
You're gonna give anybody the tea step. We didn't get
into the tea step at all.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
Oh my god, he does stuff. You know, everybody got
that one son that you have to pray about all
the time. He is the one number one son.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
You know, everybody got their son to keep you on
your knees and praying that they grew up in the
same house, but they're totally different.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
He is the one. Want to thank you for just
keeping it. I love my son. That's awesome.
Speaker 4 (18:05):
That's awesome.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
All right.
Speaker 7 (18:08):
We asked the question about the tea steps. Oh yes,
that's always the debate. Let me tell you something, okay,
let me let me teach you real quick. Please, how
stupid the T step is. I'm gonna teach you real now.
You're gonna help me. Oh okay, okay, okay, okay. We're
gonna walk backwards. Then we're gonna walk for it.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Let's walk backwards. Now, let's stop and walk for it.
Why didn't you teach step? I mean, I mean, why didn't.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
You tea stuff. Okay, let me show you how stupid
that is. Look, I'm gonna walk backwards. Then I'm gonna
walk for who does that? What fool does that? What
idiot does that?
Speaker 4 (18:44):
Hey?
Speaker 2 (18:45):
If that's what about?
Speaker 4 (18:49):
That's right, that's right.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
If one of my players do that, I'm ripping his
face mass off the rest of the game without a face.
Speaker 4 (18:57):
How much time you spend with the DBS in practice?
Speaker 1 (18:59):
I don't spend quite a bit because I gotta go everybody. Yeah,
I gotta go, But but I'm over there first. That's
the first drill, that's the first position group that I
go to, and I'm able to grab the guys and
put him out and you know, put my little flavor
on him. But I may call him to the office
later on.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
And yeah, yeah, and you got to coach Matthew, Kevin
Matthews there too. Come on that.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
That's right, that's you know, that's twenty four years of
experience there. You're gonna get checked. We're gonna have something
to say, and we want you to get out of
bed bumping and running. You gotta get out of bed
bumping and run if you want to play, if you
want to play, for see you gotta get out of
the bed bumping and run.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
No t steps steps all right, t steps you getting
you getting.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
I can't slap you because it's against rue, but I
can trip your face mass on that.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
That's right.
Speaker 8 (19:45):
All right?
Speaker 4 (19:45):
Hey, coach Prime, you're the best man.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
Thanks gonna wear You said he's gonna You said he
was going first, right, you tell us deep what you said,
and you said Charlotte is gonna within him.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
That's what you said. That's what Jo said, Team's go.
That's what Joe said.
Speaker 4 (20:00):
You talk about perfect parents draft.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
I'm so tired of these monks. You got guys giving
mock draft I ain't never heard of before. Somebody asked
your ranked twenty if I wanted to rip the TV
screen off?
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Who is that guy?
Speaker 4 (20:11):
Great question.
Speaker 9 (20:12):
We're going to find that person right now and let
them know. All right, coach try, thank you, Yes, I
am here with you. Were saying, this is you're Sanders
that just heard on the PA that you're not working out.
Speaker 8 (20:30):
It was kind of I didn't expect to hear my
name today. I didn't expect that.
Speaker 6 (20:35):
Look, man, so much conversation about you. How's the pre
draft process treating you?
Speaker 8 (20:41):
It's cool. I'll say it's definitely a learning experience that
a lot of things aren't in your control. And just
getting the nods from Dad and just coach, family and
friends and everybody you know that's supporting me and helping
me through this process. It's extremely important and I'm thankful
that I have those resources.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
You know, and think about those those resources.
Speaker 6 (20:59):
You talk about your dad, and your dad obviously has
walked a great walk in the pros. What are some
of the things that you've learned from him to kind
of help you throughout this journey.
Speaker 8 (21:07):
Well, we always understood to block out the noise, even
from Jackson State and Colorado. It's a lot of critics,
it's a lot of hate, but we know what to do.
We know how to handle that in every way, so
we remain happy.
Speaker 6 (21:20):
You know, and thinking about that, Like your journey is
one that some would say it's unorthodox. You go to
Jackson State for a couple of years, you guys kill it.
You go to Colorado, you turn around that program. Just
talk about the special qualities that you bring to a
team in terms of helping a program turn around.
Speaker 8 (21:35):
Well was another recipe of it. I was heavily involved
in I was almost a GM for the for the
both of the teams because I knew what pieces I wanted.
And you know, when we got to Colorado, I already,
i would say, was stable in the college in the
college area to where I knew exactly what I want.
It wasn't just coach saying these guys are gonna get.
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It was me actually going out there getting those guys
knowing we're receiving, are gonna fit my eye, knowing, uh,
everybody has to compliment each other, knowing, you know which
O line guys we gotta get, we got to secure.
So I was heavily involved in that process from transitioning
from Jackson State to Colorado. So I kind of have
like a different type of viewpoint. I wasn't just going
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out there just playing ball.
Speaker 6 (22:19):
So what I hear you talk about is already stuff
that they talked about in the pros.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
A franchise quarterback.
Speaker 6 (22:24):
Franchise quarterback has relationships, and those relationships lead to success.
How do you build those bonds with your teammates.
Speaker 8 (22:30):
I'll say it's easy because of course everybody is able
to see, you know, what's going on from the outside.
So then when you pick up that phone and call
them like how I did with John Tate Western. You
know that he was ready for it, you know, and
then I just stayed on them, stay consistent talking to
him and made sure it happened because I knew that
was a guy that we needed on the team. And
Will also, you know, Will was a work in progress.
(22:53):
He he didn't come the first year, but the second year,
you know, he came, and uh, he was happy about
that decision.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
You know.
Speaker 6 (22:59):
One of the things that I think makes you really
prepared to be a franchise quarterback is man You've been
on the stage, bright lights forever.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
That name carries a lot of weight and a lot
of significance.
Speaker 6 (23:10):
But there's also a lot of pressure that comes along
with being a Sanders. How have you been able to
navigate like the pressure and all the expectations that come
along with being a Hall of Famer Sun.
Speaker 8 (23:20):
I like the pressure that comes in everything. I'll say
pressure is also a privileged So if you don't have
pressure on you, then you know, I don't know what
you're doing. So that's why I'm thankful, when I'm truly
blessed that I am in a position in the situation
that I'm in because I wouldn't want no other way.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
You know, So putting on my scout hat.
Speaker 6 (23:40):
One of the things that strikes me just how comfortable
you are in your own skin, the way that you
come in, wear to change hats and all that other stuff.
So much of being successful is authentic, being authentic. How
are you able to just be so confident in all
environments when everyone is criticizing how you go about doing things,
playing walking around, et cetera.
Speaker 8 (23:59):
Cause you gonna be watching or you're gonna be talking
about it. It's gonna be one to two. So I'd
rather be the one, you know, getting talked about it
in the one just watching it hating on another guy.
So that's that's what I do. I got the most
respect for everybody you know that that has had some
type of success in their life, because I truly understand
how hard it is. So I think people take that
human factor out, how hard it is to get to
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that point, How hard it is for everybody out here
to even be able to perform, to be able to
even come here and work out in front of all
these scouts and stuff like. It's extremely hard. So I
never down talk, I never push down Nobody because I
know how hard it is, you know, to perform.
Speaker 6 (24:40):
You know, and thinking about like some of the special
relationships that you've developed over the years Tom Brady being
a guy that you can kind of lean on and
talk to and maybe solicit some advits from.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
When you've had those conversations, What has it been.
Speaker 8 (24:52):
Like, Well, I would say when we spoke the most
in depth, I'll say was early on in my college career.
So a lot of things that he would speak on,
would it, you know, registered to me till like now,
So now you know, my plan for the next couple
of weeks, in the next couple of months is go
back and rewatch you know, all the footage that we
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talked about, and then you know, now register more and
how you're saying turn your hips when you're throwing, create
torque and all that stuff. Like a couple of years ago,
I really didn't understand what that meant. But now it's like, okay,
I truly understand that. So that that's what it is,
is getting all the wisdom from everything that happened back then,
rewatching things like I don't watch TV, I just watched
old videos of myself.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
So and thinking about on the field in the game.
Speaker 6 (25:38):
There there's been a conversation about your style of play, right,
Everyone's talking about all the quarterback needs to be more
athletic in those things.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
But you're more of a throwback.
Speaker 6 (25:45):
You play from the pocket, You live in the pocket,
You play with touch, time and anticipation. Uh, why does
your style work and why would it continue to work
at the next level.
Speaker 8 (25:52):
I mean it always worked in the league. Look at
the history of the league. Now, everybody was you know,
big time runners back then, back in the day. So
you got the greatest quarterback ever time. Brady ain't run
too much. So I feel like the best thing for
me is to play from the pocket, and that's what
I'm most comfortable in now. The difference is is I'm
able to adjust to my team. So if I need
to be if I need to you know, take different
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type of drops, if I need to be able to
get a little bit more active, then then I'm able
to do that and adjust my game. So that was
a lot of what we did the first year, you
know in Colorado, I had to adjust my game to
get more success, you know, based off of what we
had on the rust.
Speaker 6 (26:30):
So understanding like the brand that you guys first created
at Jackson State, but then a Colorado y'all always got
everybody's best, right, And so as a quarterback, you're always
the target.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
You're always the one catching all the heat.
Speaker 6 (26:42):
How do you handle not only those expectations, but the
escalated temper to escalated performance and things that people come
at you. How do you handle that and continue to
stay within yourself?
Speaker 8 (26:52):
Well? Been like that from day one, you know. So
I don't expect no other way. I don't expect somebody
to bring their big game to the game. So that's
why I have to go to different heights when it
comes to training, when it comes to prepare and just
going about everything in life. Because the last name and
what it means, it's a certain type of standard that
you have to have. So we know, you know where
(27:13):
to target where everybody's super bowl every time we step
on the field. So I'm not one that you know,
likes to get embarrassed.
Speaker 6 (27:20):
So and thinking about this, one thing scouts love to
do is we love to make comparisons. Right, We're trying
to say, like this player is gonna play like this
person at the next level. But when you see yourself,
who are some of the quarterbacks that you emulate that
you're padding in your game.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
After that, you can see yourself being at the next level.
Speaker 8 (27:35):
Yeah, it's not like you can say it's a comparison.
Everybody's their own weigh in, their own forming their own shape.
Not everybody had to deal with there's much pressure how
to deal with growing up through all everything that went on.
So if you put a lot of people in the situation,
you know, wheels in, not everybody would be able to
be the person I am today. So you know, you
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just got to see, you know, how everything pans out,
and I know what it's going to be. So it's
just time for you guys to see.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
Okay, last question.
Speaker 6 (28:03):
One thing that people get wrong about Shudur Sanders, like
the misconception. What's one thing that we have it wrong
when it comes to how we evaluate you, how we
talk about you in those lives.
Speaker 8 (28:14):
I don't know, because I mean truthfully, like the opinions
don't matter to me. So you know, I live in
my own space, in my own world. So when everybody's
on the ouside saying I don't know what people get
wrong or anything like that, you.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
Know, that's it. I don't know, all right, well I
know this.
Speaker 6 (28:29):
I know some NFL teams gonna get it right when
they call your name on draft weekend.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
Well, there you have it. Hope you guys enjoyed those.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
Rhett was great, great event, great opportunity to catch up
with Coach Prime, great opportunity to catch up with Shador.
I love the idea of scrimmaging another team in the spring.
I think I hope that that ends up happening. I
absolutely love that idea.
Speaker 4 (28:52):
Yeah, it was a great question.
Speaker 5 (28:52):
I'm glad you brought that up with Coach Prime and
has been one of the you know, kind of trending
hot topics in college football. So many teams are getting
rid of spring games, but Coach Prime trying to go
the opposite direction and turn it into something meaningful for
his program and for his players, which we'd love to
see certainly. And we appreciate the Big Twelve, appreciate Commissioner
Brett you Ormark for putting this event together, for giving
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us the ability to come and cover it the way
we did.
Speaker 4 (29:16):
And we had.
Speaker 5 (29:17):
Some great crew, great production staff, getting us caught up
on all things that we needed to to bring you
guys the best of this coverage. If you missed any
of that, that'll be on NFL Network throughout and we'll
be back with some more Pro Day coverage and some
more Pro Day recaps right here on Move the Sticks
next week, following cam Ward's Pro Day at Miami, which
you can see live on NFL Network Monday, four thirty
(29:38):
Eastern time, and I'm sure we'll be talking about that
in the episodes to follow next week right here on
Move the Stick.
Speaker 4 (29:44):
So for Bucky
Speaker 5 (29:45):
Brooks and Daniel Jeremia, I'm read Thois, we'll catch you
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