Breaking Down the Big Week 4 Games

Daniel Jeremiah, Bucky Brooks, and Brian Baldinger are back to break down the biggest matchups from Week 4 of the 2025 season. The crew kicks things off with Ravens-Chiefs (00:39) before diving into Cowboys-Packers (06:18), Eagles-Buccaneers (11:54), Chargers-Giants (19:44), Colts-Rams (28:12), Jaguars-49ers (34:36), and Vikings-Steelers (40:33). Plus, DJ shares his experience at Bethpage Black watching the Ryder Cup. (45:29)

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
And now move the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
What's up everybody? Welcome to move the sticks on a Monday.
DJ Buck and Baldy Buck. I know where you are
every week because the Jags, Baldi, I'm always my first question,
where the heck were you yesterday?

Speaker 3 (00:18):
Well, I met the NFL network here in La today,
I was. I was doing the Rams yesterday, Rams Colts.
So it was, uh, you know, the Rams put up
two touchdowns there in the final four minutes to win
that game, but it was, uh, you know it was
it was you could see why both teams could be
real good this year.

Speaker 2 (00:34):
No question. We're gonna get to that. We're gonna get
to that game. And in a few minutes here, Uh,
let's start off with what was billed as the game
of the week. Uh didn't end up being all that
competitive or close. But Baltimore Kansas City, Baldy well, you see.

Speaker 3 (00:47):
I just see this Baltimore defense is a is a
real problem.

Speaker 4 (00:51):
Uh you know, just whether it's two things.

Speaker 3 (00:53):
One what we took for granted and Derrick Henry just
having another monster year. It had it hadn't started except
for a few runs against Buffalo. He's really been shut down.
He can't really get started. And then defensively, you know,
they're playing from behind in these games, and they can't
stop anybody right now. They don't have a pass rush,
and all of a sudden, I just don't understand some

(01:16):
of the things that they're doing, you know, to stop
other teams. But defensively, they're a mess right now. They
started off a mess last year and then they kind
of figured things out in the second half of the
season and they got a lot better. But they look
like they look like the defense that started the year
a year ago, Like new defensive coordinator Zach Worrn, just
not really sure they're personnel.

Speaker 4 (01:36):
And it's been a real issue here through the first month.

Speaker 1 (01:41):
Look, I'll take the other side of it, and I'll
talk about the Kansas City Chiefs, and I never knew
that Xavier Worthy could potentially make that much of a
difference for their offense. But having the long ball, or
the threat of the long ball, really opens up everything
for them. They still can't run the ball the way
they want to run it. They still don't have a
thread in the backfield that makes you change. But having
the one guy on the fields avery worthy that can

(02:03):
stretch the field, opens up everything for everybody else. And
when you think about the Chiefs, one being able to
go for over three hundred yards, being able to open
it up even though he didn't have one hundred yard day,
but just setting the table, this looked more like the
fun Chiefs that we talked about. We talked about making
the Chiefs fun again, Like this looked like that version
that they could eventually get to. There's still a ceiling

(02:26):
to it in my mind without the running game, but
at least from a passing game perspective, they can deliver
some explosive plays because they have a explosive guy that
can command the double team and open up the field
for the rest of the guys.

Speaker 2 (02:38):
Yeah, I was glad to see Mishard Smith got some touches.
We've been begging for that to that so he can
see weeks ago. Yeah, give him some speed, he give
him a little pop. So he made a couple of plays.
But interesting thing to me again, because I'm I don't
see these games on TV. I just kind of I
go through the box score and I kind of see
what grabs my eye and that informs what I want
to watch. So first thing, it jumped out. They had
the ball for thirty four to forty five, so they

(02:59):
controlled the ball at Baltimore off the field. So how
do you do that? Well, you're four to four on
fourth downs and I don't know there's a better I
don't know if there's a better play caller or a
better quarterback on fourth down than Andy Reid combined with
Patrick Mahomes, and what they do They give themselves multiple options.
I went through the four of them. So the four
four conversions. You get a little roll right, you get

(03:19):
a little rub route in the flat where if it's there,
boom and he takes a ma Homes take it. If
it's not there, he's going to use his legs and
run and get it anyway. So you get him. There's
a theme to it, getting Mahomes out to his right,
his dominant side where he's very comfortable there. Then they
ran the ball power behind Simmons, who's already playing at
a really high level. The left tackle is going to
be a good player. They can run behind him, he

(03:40):
can move people. Then you go back, Okay, now we're
going to boot to the right again. Mahomes has options
to run it. He finds the little crosser deep cross
hits I think was Hollywood Brown for a touchdown, and
then they come back in the exact same look. He
wheels out and this time he just gives it inside.
So everything kind of plays off of one another. There's
a theme of trying to get it to that right side.

(04:01):
It's just to me, it's it's baldy, It's option football.
Really is what it is.

Speaker 3 (04:05):
Well, what you're saying DJ is and you're right. I mean,
Andy Reid is a master. But I mean it's two things.
It's the trust in Mahomes to go for it on
fourth down, to know that he's going to give you
a chance. And then in Andy's design, in Nagu's design,
all right, what are the answers.

Speaker 4 (04:20):
If they do this?

Speaker 3 (04:21):
If they take this away on the rub route, you know,
going to the right, I mean, if they take that
away and they jump it, uh, you know, where's where's
where's the answer? And so I always feel like they're
thinking next level because a lot of these fourth down
plays you see in the league, and everybody is you know,
kind of ranching that up and trying to keep possession
right now, you know, Okay, if if the the route

(04:43):
that you called isn't there because whatever happens, you know,
where is where's your option?

Speaker 4 (04:48):
And I feel like they think that all the way through.

Speaker 2 (04:50):
Yeah, I mean every quarterback I've ever talked to it,
I'm sure you've had similar experiences. Baldi, It's like what
do they want? They just get, Hey, give me answers, Like,
give me some answers to whatever I'm gonna see. I
need to have an answer that that. I don't know
anybody's done that better than Andy.

Speaker 4 (05:04):
No.

Speaker 3 (05:04):
I mean that's you know, you know, you just give
them some hogindos, you know on Tuesday night, you know,
and let him just go tinker DJ I mean that's
I mean, honestly, that's what he does. Like he's tinkering
all the time. And that's why, you know, you talk
to Mahomes before these games. When I get a chance
to talk to him, and I'm like, how many new
plays this week? Bet, And It's like, oh, we got

(05:26):
like six six seven new ones. I can't wait, you know,
and they're wrapping them and walking through it and put
it on the board and the whole thing and then
you know, if if it has the right amount of
answers depending on what the defense are gonna do to you.
Then they're gonna put it in the game plan, and
then it's a question of you know, they're gonna pull
it out or not. But it's, uh, it's what do
we have? You know, Buck, you just talking May, You're

(05:47):
worthy back in line.

Speaker 4 (05:48):
What do we have? What are they doing? What are
they you know?

Speaker 3 (05:51):
You know, those first fifteen are all about, Okay, we're
gonna give you this formation, We're gonna give you this look.

Speaker 4 (05:56):
How they match it up with it?

Speaker 3 (05:57):
And so they're only they're almost building their game play
off the first fifteen to start that game, and then's
a question down distant situation and what's in our playbook
right here?

Speaker 2 (06:08):
No doubt they do it really really well. I know
we're how about a month away from Halloween. I'd love
to see the Ravens dress up as a good defense again.
That'd be fun. It'll be fun to watch. Been a
medicince we've seen that. Dallas, Green Bay Baldy h So,
you know, I.

Speaker 3 (06:22):
Mean it's a shootout. Dak was awesome. I mean both
quarterbacks were great, really great. Dak makes that throw at
the end they try to go down in overtime to
win it with a touchdown. He makes that throw to
Jalen Tolbert. I mean, Michaeh Parsons, He's all over them
and I don't even know how he got the ball
down the field. Now, I'm not sure what Keshawn Nixon

(06:42):
was doing and he ends one look like he just stopped.

Speaker 4 (06:45):
But you know, Dak gave Tolbert.

Speaker 3 (06:46):
I'm told he made a great catch, great toe tap
on the sideline.

Speaker 4 (06:50):
But I thought that. I thought Dak was on his game.

Speaker 3 (06:54):
And this is, you know, without CD, nobody thought, Okay
Pickens could make the plays that he did. The catcher run,
the sideline, stuff like he was a monster in that game.
But so Cobert ferguson how they ran the ball. I
got to give shot a lot of credit. The offense
is a really good offense. And that's with a backup center.
It's with the you know, backup right guard. It's you know, uh,

(07:18):
you know they lost Guitton for a little while. I
mean it was with backups up there. And the way
that you know the quarterback's playing great and the offense
is well designed is you're playing with backups and you
don't even know it.

Speaker 4 (07:28):
And that's a.

Speaker 3 (07:28):
Credit because I thought Tyler Booker was playing great, but
you know, they went in there with TJ the whole group.
Hoffman played really good at center, but I thought Dak
got rid of the ball quickly because Michael was winning
his pass rushers one after another, and but Dak was
beaten with the speed of delivery, speed of decision making,
and he saw the.

Speaker 4 (07:48):
Field really, really well. It was. It was a great game.

Speaker 3 (07:50):
I mean, if you like offense, if you like great
quarterback play, go play a six quarter, you know.

Speaker 4 (07:56):
Like four let's let's keep going. It's bought. It's funny
that she talked about the Cowboys.

Speaker 1 (08:03):
I finally saw a path to victory for them down
the line in terms of how they can play, and
I think is very similar to the way that they
played last night.

Speaker 4 (08:12):
The offense has to be great each and every week.

Speaker 1 (08:14):
But if this defense can really hone in on the
things that Matt Eberfluss wants to do where they're playing bimba,
don't break, don't give up the big plays and those things.
The only issue that I have with their personnel, they're
not disciplined or detailed enough to really play the Tampa
two style that he wants to play. They just have
egregious bust and errors at critical moments that lead to

(08:36):
big plays. If they can just literally get aligned and
understand the assignment with their offense playing the way that
they played last night, they can win some games. You
don't want it to be in the thirties each week,
but if they can just keep it in front, find
a way to slow people down in the red zone,
there's a path for them to be a competitive team.

Speaker 4 (08:57):
I'm not saying they'd be a playoff team, but.

Speaker 1 (08:59):
They can be very competitive because you're right, Deck is
playing at a lights out level. You just need to
support the high level quarterback play with some solid bed
but don't break defense.

Speaker 2 (09:10):
Yeah, let me let me wrap up what you guys
are both talking about here and put a little bow
on it and we'll move on to Philly Tampa. But
you talked about Pickings there initially, Baldy going back through
all this stuff, eight for a buck, thirty four and
two touchdowns. So Pickings gets kind of labeled because he's
so rangy and athletic and fast, like he's just your
vertical down the field guy. But when you go through this,
there's some nuance to him as a route runner, he widens,

(09:31):
widens guys on a seam to create a bigger window
for a throw. He catches a whole shot. You get
him on a one step slant. He can get you
on that stuff as well. There was a lot of
different variety to how he won in this game. Did
a really really nice job. So you'll see him on curls,
like he's working back to the quarterback deep end cuts.
So he's not just a one trick pony. Like when
he's right, he's a full He's a full number one

(09:53):
caliber receiver. And that was on display in that game.
And I don't want to rain on the Cowboys, per
I just said some nice things about pickings, but when
their defense, I mean, guys, when you give up, when
you're eleven of fifteen allowed third and fourth downs in
that game, eleven of fifteen conversions, like they can't get
off the field, and you know, and I'm so that

(10:14):
that's not going to be something I think is going
to get drastically improved. They can't really get to the quarterback.
I worry about this team. I think I've scored a
ton of points, if that's a proper phrase, to win
a lot of games. In this league and then Baldy.
The last thing that I'll sum it up on is, man,
it wasn't that long ago. Green Bay early in the season,
and We're like, this is this super Bowl caliber and

(10:34):
I was saying, they made the right it's the right
time to go all in and get my you look up.
Cleveland's not good. They lost that game. Dallas I don't
think is very good, and they tied that game. They've come,
They've come fallen back to earth man, no question.

Speaker 3 (10:47):
It was a two week where it looked like, okay,
you know, Halflee had it going on defensively, the whole thing,
and it has fallen apart. You know, they could not
I mean the week before against Cleveland, they couldn't do
anything off you know, and then yesterday a Dack did
whatever he wanted to do in that game offense.

Speaker 4 (11:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (11:05):
Buck, one more quick nugget on this. I'm here for
all the tight end screens as a nood alarm quarterback.

Speaker 4 (11:11):
You.

Speaker 2 (11:11):
I mean when they they the Green Bay was dusting
that off several times in that game. There's no better
feeling than setting up a screen to a tight It's
the easiest throw and that that's ever been assembled in
a playbook and you got a little a little upside
with that thing as well.

Speaker 3 (11:25):
As a guy that started my college career as a
tight end. Give me all the tight end screens you
want to give me, Give me all the dump you
know that seen dump, Give me give me all the
I'll catch those.

Speaker 4 (11:35):
You know those six yard plays all day long.

Speaker 2 (11:37):
Man delay, give me, give me a couple of delay releases.
I'm not.

Speaker 4 (11:42):
Delay.

Speaker 3 (11:42):
And we get off like there's six different ways you
can get tight ends the ball.

Speaker 4 (11:46):
Oh yeah, yeah, I meaning a bunch though.

Speaker 2 (11:48):
I feel like we're seeing a lot of tight end
screens every week watching watching the bunch of these games.
Uh hey, once you start us off on this one,
Buck Philly Tampa Bay, weird game. I would say Tampa
Bay ended up coming back a little bit. But what
you see on this one.

Speaker 1 (12:04):
I mean, for as great as the Philadelphia goes, look
the first half jumping all over the Buccaneers, they couldn't
do anything the second half offensively. And it's the craziest
thing to kind of watch this team that we celebrate
having won twenty out of their last twenty one, but
they always leave you kind of wanting a little more
so I want to give them credit for finding a
way to get it done, but you still have so

(12:27):
many other things that they could get to aj Brown
only having two catches, Like.

Speaker 4 (12:32):
Did he say anything? Did he?

Speaker 2 (12:33):
Did he say anything after the game? Because I haven't
seen anything I could. I'll get to this body language
in a minute. But it wasn't great at the end.

Speaker 4 (12:39):
Of this game.

Speaker 1 (12:39):
I think he tweeted something, but I didn't get a
chance to read it yet, but I heard it is
a little tweet that kind of aired it out a little.

Speaker 2 (12:48):
Yeah, Gavin and Drew help us out in the chat
on that one, Baldy, what have you seen there? I mean, gosh,
they keep winning, man.

Speaker 3 (12:55):
I mean yeah, I mean, look, you know Kevin Patoul's
under you know, the hot lights, even though the four
and zero, but he had They scored three red zone touchdowns.
They were all different plays, all extremely well designed, all
perfectly executed, and so I thought, okay, three touchdowns, three
red zone touchdowns, three really different designs.

Speaker 4 (13:14):
That's good. Uh. Todd Bowles blitz from the.

Speaker 3 (13:16):
First game, first play of the game, then an answer
for the blitz the entire first half, and that's how
they jumped to that lead. They weren't fooled by anything
they had. They had the right read they had Uh.
Jalen knew where to go with the ball and that's
something he struggled against Todd Bowles in the past. And
on the other side, I haven't seen a corner play
better than Quinnon Mitchell than what he did in that game.

(13:37):
I mean, he defended one pass after another. He wasn't
called for any penalties. He plays the game with his
feet and his eyes. He's in position. Abuca made the
big play obviously, you know said, but that wasn't against him.
That was a you know, two scrambled drill touchdowns that
Baker kept him in the game on, uh, you know,
one to Abuka and then one.

Speaker 4 (13:56):
To to Bucky.

Speaker 3 (13:57):
But I thought, I I thought Quinnon was absolutely awesome
in that game.

Speaker 2 (14:03):
Yeah, I'd said before the season started, I talked to
somebody in the organization who said, Quinna and Mitchell, you know,
during camp, he's our best football player, not like he's
our best dB, he's our best defensive player. Like he's
the best player on our team. I was like, Wow, Okay,
that's a that's power statement. He's lived up to it
with what he's done so far. By the way, that
quote that tweet, I guess was if you're not welcomed,

(14:24):
not listened quietly withdraw, don't make a scene, shrug your
shoulders and be on your way. Oh it's a Bible
verse mark six eleven. I wasn't familiar that, so throught
me off guard on that one. Okay, interesting, but he
looked going going, getting to that point, going through and
just looking at all his I went through all hurt stuff,
just watched all his stuff. So they start off early.

(14:45):
One of the ways I like it when you have
a plan in place, when you get to get a
blitz heavy team like they were going to see, get
the backs involved. I'd much rather be throwing in my
backs and ask my backs to be in there trying
to sort out all the chaos that's coming their way.
Give give you some easy completions there. I think the
you know, they did a nice job designed some stuff
their short yardage. A little scoop to Goddard was was
a creative play call down there and body you touched

(15:07):
on that the aj Brown stuff specifically. I think where
his frustration came was there was a couple opportunities early
in game where he's one on one, it's a fifty
to fifty situation. He's vertical down the field, and I
think in his mind and rightfully so, he's like, hey,
this is you got to take these shots like I'm here,
give me a chance to make these plays. And Hurtz

(15:28):
turned it down a couple times, and then at the
end after that, you could kind of see his body
language getting frustrated. And then like the gosh, the last
five or six throws they tried to you could tell
he must have been barking or there was some because
they were aggressively trying to force feed him the ball,
and it just wasn't in the flow of the game.
It wasn't in the rhythm of the offense. It just

(15:49):
it was off. It was definitely off. And the body language.
Just watching the All twenty two stuff, you could see
the slump shoulders, you could see the frustration. I mean,
they throw them a screen out there and DeVante Smith
just leaves the guy over him to go block. Malat
has got no chance to get out there and get
the corner, so he gets tackled for a tackle for loss.
He just you could see the frustration building. That's why

(16:09):
I didn't even know that he had tweeted anything. I
just thought watching that game, watching that tape, I'm like,
surely something was said in the post game, and it
turns out he did it and way of.

Speaker 3 (16:19):
It just on the other side, you know, I know,
Baker was unbelievable. Like that guy, his competitive he's just
a warrior. Like I know, he had to be exhausted
at the end of that game, but the way that
he kept plays alive, he kept him in the game.
It wasn't pretty at all. His effort to just avoid rush.

(16:39):
They came after him a lot of different ways, like
to avoid the rush, to extend the play, to get out,
to keep plays alive, scrambling for first downs, like he
did everything he possibly could with a depleted group up
front on the right side, and you know, receivers out,
all that kind of stuff.

Speaker 4 (16:55):
I mean, did get God went back. But it's it's
just no, it's just you can't.

Speaker 3 (17:02):
You can't give that guy any more credit than than
than than what he just did on that field to
try and you know, pull that game out.

Speaker 2 (17:09):
Baldy, if I told you that your family was going
to be held hostage and you needed to have one fighter.
When you a match within a cage, would you take
anybody other than a Lifeli a Baker. I would take Vidavea,
and I would he would be my representative to save
my family's life in the octorunity any other human being
in the National Football League Atlanta. Dickerson is a big

(17:30):
human being, and he displaced him rather easily.

Speaker 4 (17:34):
Let me just say that.

Speaker 3 (17:35):
Let's just say the equipment manager lost Vita Vea's equipment,
no helmet, no pads, no shoes. If he just went
out there in a pair of shorts, would it be
any different, Nould? Would he play any different? Like he'd
be the same guy.

Speaker 2 (17:50):
That's not fair, Bucky. It just I mean, this is
the league of some really big strong I'm talking three
hundred and thirty six foot six. These are grown men,
and it is they don't have a chance. He's so
stinking strong man.

Speaker 1 (18:02):
Yeah, but I mean imagine being in a high school
after attacking him at tailback.

Speaker 4 (18:06):
I mean, just imagine that's what he was.

Speaker 1 (18:07):
So the athleticism that you're talking about, that's what he
was doing when he was in high school, running the
rock on occasion.

Speaker 4 (18:14):
He is terrific. He has been as good as advertised
when he was coming out.

Speaker 1 (18:18):
His dominance at the point of attack really sets the
table when you think about what ty Bowles wants to
do defensively, having somebody like that up front as a
centerpiece only enhances the high pressure game plan that he
prefers to use. You know, Tampa. You know, is funny
because you don't take more victories in the pros. But
I think if anything, man, you come out of this

(18:39):
with a ton of confidence that you can go toe
to toe with the heavyweights. They're gonna win the division,
but they're gonna be right there to have one of
these high leverage matchups against either Detroit or Philly at
the end to determine whether they can be one of
those wants to get.

Speaker 4 (18:53):
To the winner circle.

Speaker 3 (18:55):
You know, obviously we'll get to the Pittsburgh game in Dublin,
you know. But they were always talking about, you know,
in uh, you know, sixteen international games and maybe a
team outside of the United States. If they ever put
a team in Samoa and they small in Malatta and
Vida and you just put all the Samons on a
team like they might run the table on the NFL

(19:17):
right now, Yeah, I.

Speaker 2 (19:18):
Mean, that's gonna it's gonna bridge perfectly, Baldi because I
know they didn't win, but tweet below too. I think
had I believe he had four sacks.

Speaker 3 (19:25):
It was here for the game. Yeah, four, He probably
had left two on the on the field.

Speaker 2 (19:30):
Yeah, So we're gonna we're gonna stick a pin in that.
We're gonna come right back. We'll get to jackson darts debut,
and what a debut it was for him and the
Giants as they won over the previously undefeated Charters. We'll
get to that right after this. All right, guys, I
was there Chargers Giants. It was a game right from
the first drive for the Giants. They just went right

(19:52):
down the field, scataboo running the ball. I was telling
money as we were calling the game. I'm like, you're
gonna see darts legs on this drive because it's like
a new toy for Brian Dabole, and you will all
the new features of this thing. You want to you
want to test it all out here and really really
well designed uh offense down there they get down there
in the red zone, a little quarterback draw you got
scatabooed is a lead lead up there in the hole.

Speaker 4 (20:14):
It's just it's so it's so.

Speaker 2 (20:18):
Impactful when you have a quarterback who not only can
like run or make you miss, but it can run
with some power and some strength. You get in the
red zone. It just changes the math. He's got a
good lead blocker in there, and he did it on
a couple of different occasions, uh in this game. So
they had a really good plan there. There was some
The thing that most impressed me overall on Dart and
then Baldyale kick it over to you, but was some

(20:39):
long third downs he was able to convert with his
arm and his legs. He looked poised. Now he took
a lot of sacks to we pullow two got to
him a bunch. Then you know they got to him
and hit him in this game. He actually was a
little gimpy too, yeah at one point time, but kind
of fought through it. He had fifty four yards on
the ground and he had a really long run that
ended up getting called back. He would have had close
to one hundred yards. But to me, the toughness all

(21:01):
that stuff was there the third down and alongs like
keeping giving you hope. We always talk about that. You know,
you got a quarterback he provides some hope. But the
biggest thing to me, guys was when he came onto
the field. When he trotted out onto the field, like
the whole stadium lit up like he brings energy.

Speaker 3 (21:17):
Man, he brought a lot of energy there, and the
fans played off it. I mean the touchdown run, I mean,
I mean that celebration was going on. The Giants hadn't
had a lead all year they got and it's you know,
and we'll get to the other the other side of it,
but you know, you you let that defense play with
the lead, and Dark got it in that you can
see the whole team got got a lift from it.

Speaker 4 (21:38):
And you know, it's just, you know, the downer is
what happened to the leik, you know.

Speaker 3 (21:43):
I mean, like here you are, you're trying to develop
this quarterback and then your star player over here is
done for the year. Like it's just it just stinks,
you know, because it's it's gonna you're not gonna be ready.

Speaker 4 (21:53):
To replace him. But I thought, I thought Dart did
a lot with his legs.

Speaker 3 (21:57):
He extended some plays and then like when he does
have to throw the ball over the middle, like he
does it with confidence and he throws over the middle.
You talked about the third down conversions to extend some drives.
That's a good defense. They're really good at up the
middle on that defense. And he didn't look the least
fit worried about who he was going up against.

Speaker 1 (22:19):
You know, I felt like I got a nice preview
of what we were going to see on Sunday Saturday
looking at Old Miss play with Lang Kiffin. I'm looking
at Old Miss take down LSU, and I'm looking at
all of the different things that Old Miss does. And
even though Jackson Dart certainly isn't there, but it's the RPOs,
the rhythm throws, the quarterback run game and everything. You
turn on the Giants game and you see, oh man,

(22:42):
the Giants look like the pro version of Ole Miss
in terms of how Jackson Dart is playing quarterback lead
down in the ins, DJ, if you couldn't call that
out and say, you know what, I think Jackson Dart
is gonna run something down here because it's a shiny
new toy, I'm dumbfounded in terms of that. But it's
also what herb Rex Ryan talking about this. The reason

(23:03):
why you had to make the move is because you
needed this team energized, and because you have a young
guy who's competing, who's toughest nails, even if it's not right,
it changes the way that everyone responds. That defense played
lights out because of the energy that the offense was
given them. And when you look at Jackson Dart's statline,

(23:23):
it's easy to be like, well, he really didn't do anything,
but it's the presence, it's the field, it's the toughness
that he played with, the competitiveness. Look, man, it's unfortunate
that Elik Neighbors is out, but we talked about this
when they were gonna have Jackson Dart, Camp Scataboo and
Elite Neighbors. That's their version of the Triplets. They could
build out everything from that. Let's see what Brian dave

(23:47):
Ball does to continue it on. But man, so far,
so good for Jackson Dart starting for the Giants.

Speaker 2 (23:52):
Yeah, it's gonna get harder, and I know, you know, look,
they played New Orleans. There's not a great football team
this coming week. But you start to see a little
bit of how they want to use him, and they're
going to be able to develop game plans and they
don't really have a big time winner on the outside
now that Neighbors has gone, so you're gonna see teams
are going to just try and crowd the line of scrimmage,
take away this run game which he's involved in. So

(24:13):
trust me, it's not going to be smooth ride all
the way through this whole thing. But you could tell
that he's made of the right stuff. He's incredibly tough.
All that stuff was excellent. We get over the Charger
side of things, man. Start First of all, Joe Walt
goes down and you're like, I mean, giem Andy, Christmas
guy Beck. Then it's hurt he didn't play. You already
lost Slater early in the years, so you lost two
Pro Bowl tackles and you're out there with backups, and

(24:35):
and that's a when the defensive line now with the lead,
those guys can really really rush. That's how that team
was built to play that. They just haven't had the
lead to be able to unleash it. So I had
a lot of backups in there. That was a challenge.
But I said it at the beginning of the of
the game, when it was like, Okay, what are the
keys the game? I said, well, if you're the Chargers,
you have to take away the easy button. You can't
make things easy on this quarterback. You've got to be

(24:57):
able to when you need to punt, you punt, you
make him have to the field. Well, they get two turnovers,
they start two possessions inside your five yard line. Yeah,
that's the game. That was the whole game. That's that's
what happened.

Speaker 4 (25:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (25:08):
Well, I mean Dexter Lawrence's interception incredible play. It's a
great play. But I mean I thought, you know, the
twist and the games that they're running with Abdul and
Cavon uh were really effective, especially against you know, backup
offensive linemen, and then uh, you know, Burnsy has just
been playing at a high level all year. So that's
the four. That's the four that you've got to try
and you know, contain. And they got to Herbie a bunch,

(25:30):
They hit them a bunch, they affected them, They got
the big plays defensively, the interceptions, the whole thing, and so, uh,
the defense, you know, really helped the offense out. They
really played, uh that style of football, and the Giants
did just enough, you know, to keep that lead all
game long. And you thought maybe, I'm sure in the

(25:50):
fourth quarter you thought, Okay, this is gonna be like
Denver here they come. You know, they got in a
position to really go and they just couldn't finish it
against that group.

Speaker 4 (25:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (25:58):
No, they couldn't finish it. And and you know the
one thing the hope that you'll take out of it
if you're on the charger side of things, is they
got a Marion Hampton cut loose a little bit and
he popped a long run. Your targio, Bucky, He's going
to be a really good player. And I like them
throwing the ball to him too. That's like another theme.
I talked about it earlier. Buck hit on this and
Baldy follow it up. But I don't know, you guys

(26:19):
tell me, am I crazy. I just from a quarterback perspective,
especially when you got an established made guy like you know, Herbert.
We talked about some of these other guys out there
in those situations. Dak Jordan Love, Hey, get my back.
I want to get my back out, Like get him out.
Let me answer some of these blitzes with being able
to get that ball out to the back.

Speaker 4 (26:37):
Well. I think is a cheat code iss ultimate cheat
code in the passing game.

Speaker 1 (26:40):
If you have a pass catching running back who also
is a legitimate running that you have to respect in
the ground game is the way that you can create
and exploit mismatches Marion Hampton and cast the ball out
of the backfield. It gives you the easy checked on option.
It discourages teams from blessing you all the time if
that guy can win is one on one battles. We

(27:00):
see more guys touch the ball out of the backfield
because they are realizing that's the safety valve in the outlet.
And for these young quarterbacks that are kind of moving
into the next phase, because Justin Herbert is moving into
the next phase of a going from not even game
manager to playmaker, but the guy that.

Speaker 4 (27:16):
Can be the ultimate distributor. That is what you want
to use.

Speaker 1 (27:19):
Use the running back so you can now create more
opportunities for everybody else. It's only sensible to use a
guy well, I mean, he's.

Speaker 3 (27:28):
Just a complete back, I mean every phase of the
game right now, and he just keeps getting better week
by week.

Speaker 4 (27:33):
And so that was the real breakout game. Although he
played well before.

Speaker 3 (27:37):
But obviously with you know Nage going down like he's
going to have to, you know, really probably increase his workload.
And he was up to the task. But man, see
in the open field, he is a hard guy to tackle.
So his balance, so all the balance you know at
North Carolina, but that balance in the NFL is what
you're looking for, that contact balance, and he was bouncing

(27:58):
off a lot of defenders.

Speaker 2 (28:00):
Yeah, we'll see if they can see how long Joe
al it's going to be out. First of all, that
was that was a big injury. And lad McConkie had
a couple of uncharacteristic drops in this game too, So
I don't thank you.

Speaker 4 (28:08):
They've got to get that.

Speaker 2 (28:09):
Cleaned up, all right, Rams Indie, Well they were there.
What did you take away?

Speaker 4 (28:16):
Who should I start?

Speaker 3 (28:17):
Pooka's unreal, Like you know, a couple of weeks ago,
you know, we were talking about you know, Cincinnati and
their receivers, and rightfully so, but Pooka, you know, third down,
the Stafford's looking for Pooka, like when they have what
they have in DeVante and Puka. Right now, they got
two guys they can win on any route against any coverage,
whatever you want to do.

Speaker 4 (28:38):
But his hands are so fast, like.

Speaker 3 (28:40):
He caught a go route against Zavian Howard and you
know late hands, but I mean his hands are in
eyes are so fast to the ball and when his
hands touched the ball, like he's not dropping, he's not
getting knocked out of his hands.

Speaker 4 (28:54):
They were all over a couple of times. So that
that was that part.

Speaker 3 (28:58):
But you know, to see Stafford down to only thirteen
in the fourth quarter, late in the fourth quarter, you know,
and they're you know, they make the fourth down play
fourth and two and he goes to Pooka to score
to tie it, and then you know, I mean it
was kind of funny last week during the week too
to out well, they're asking him like, you know, how
do you get him involved, and like Sean McVay is like, well,
I got I got the number one receiver in the NFL,

(29:20):
and I've got a Hall of Fame player over here.
Like I don't think we're too worried, but enough, you know,
there it is two minutes to go in the game
and there's two two out well going eighty eight yards
one play won.

Speaker 4 (29:32):
The game for him. So that was that.

Speaker 3 (29:33):
But uh, Daniel Jones, I know he threw a couple interceptions,
but he still was and they shut down Jonathan Taylor,
but they still are a feisty football team. And I
talked to lou M Morrill and Romo before the game
and he was like, we're just We're just a work
in progress.

Speaker 4 (29:50):
Body, We're not there. Uh. The guy that was.

Speaker 3 (29:52):
Here before had a you know, a different way of
doing things, and guys were undisciplined. We're just trying to
get our run fits and and you know, we're trying
to get things right.

Speaker 4 (30:00):
So I think they're going to get better, you know.

Speaker 3 (30:04):
So, But I thought Stafford and Puka, you know, with
a story of this game and how they just kept
plays alive all game long.

Speaker 1 (30:11):
You know, Valdy is funny you talked about lou and
Rouma and the Colts. I'm probably even bigger, a bigger
believe in the Coats after watching that game, because they
had their way. They look three quarters, they had the
game on their terms. In the fourth quarter, they had
it where they wanted it and they weren't playing an
A plus game.

Speaker 4 (30:28):
But it just shows you the depth of the talent.

Speaker 1 (30:30):
It also shows you how much they've improved with Daniel
Jones at quarterback.

Speaker 4 (30:36):
His decision making ability, his maturity, his confidence.

Speaker 1 (30:39):
All of that allows Shane Stikeen to use other pages
of the playbook that he couldn't use if he had
Anthony richardson there. And because of that, I have confidence
that this team is going to continue to evolve over
the course of the season, and as that race is
still shaping up to be, because I think the Texans
will get back in it, but the Jags, the Colts,

(31:00):
and the Texans, it's gonna come down to quarterback play.
And right now, Daniel Jones is playing better than all
of those other guys. With the two interceptions, well here's
the ghast of chance.

Speaker 3 (31:11):
I mean, they had the bone head plays by ad Mitchell.
I mean he's like giant. The Colts have complete control
of the game, and Adie Mitchell's walking to the end
zone and like whether he was trying, I don't know
what he was doing. If the celebration was beginning, it
made no sense, you know. And then they get the
long touchdown run by Jonathan Taylor, and he was just

(31:32):
a question of when it was going to happen because
he'd gotten in every game. And he breaks a long
touchdown run and it gets called back because of a
dumb penalty outside They had nothing to do with the play,
and so he cost him two touchdowns and you just go, Okay,
he wouldn't even be on the field. If Pierce is playing,
he gets his chance, and I mean it's just two
bone headed plays on his part, and nobody wants to

(31:53):
say one player lost the game, like because there's always
other plays to be made. But I just thought, like
that's going to be That's that was hard to overcome.

Speaker 2 (32:02):
Yeah, that was I feel like every year, I mean,
we the Deshaun Jackson play.

Speaker 4 (32:06):
We showed it.

Speaker 2 (32:07):
We show it every year. It happens, every happens every year.
So I guess you just got to continually reinforce it
with these guys, man, just continue to show it and
reinforce it. We do it with everything else. I mean,
I know, talking to coaches before this last game game,
I mean, I mean, darn near every team we had
a panic meeting about block kicks because we've seen so

(32:27):
many block kicks, Like we better emphasize this. This is
an issue all around the league. But that's something that
this continues to happen on Pooka. All the fourteen targets,
thirteen for a Bucks, seventy and a touchdown. One of
the numbers that Gavin and drew through in the in
the chat here his yards per reception run. He's number
one in the NFL four point one nine. Right behind
him is Aamara Saint Brown's a flower. So the efficiencies there.

(32:51):
I went through and watched it all, and I was
talking a buck about it before we started, like it's
just those little five five yard incuts, like we called
them box outs where I was, I know, people use
different it's like the smash route. Smash concept was going
over it with me, but I mean, it's just kind
of a big It's a kind of a big receiver
route and just kind of keeps he keeps guys on
his back. They can't get around him. You can tell

(33:12):
Pooka's got a basketball feeling background when you're watching him,
Like even watching him go vertical, I'm like, guy, doesn't
look like he's running like that. There's not like quick
turnover with his feet. It's kind of a strong, powerful stride,
and then he ends up kind of sneakily getting by people.
I hate that sneaky speed stuff. But he is everything
about him is kind of unique. I don't know who

(33:33):
to compare him to. How he moves around, you.

Speaker 4 (33:35):
Know, I talk to him you know, I'm kind of
walking the field before the game. I see him in
the end zone.

Speaker 3 (33:40):
So I've never met him before, you know, so I
don't do a lot of ram games, so I just
you know, you like, we start talking and I'm like, okay,
I just want to sort of introduce myself whatever. But
he's like a baldy, like, well, how do you decide?
You know, like who are you going to break down?
Like we watch all you like the guys. He's got
to smile his face. Nicest guy in the world, but
he's a he's a he's a devastating blocker, like he's

(34:04):
a stone blooded killer, but it's the nicest Like he's friendly,
he's outgoing, like you can't get the smile office. But
he's just having the best time out there right now.
And so yeah, but I mean the efficiency. He's got
five hundred and three receiving yards in the month of September,
like Calvin Johnson's record might be, you know, in danger
right now.

Speaker 2 (34:23):
The way he's going, Well, you can't you can't dedicate
coverage solely to him because you got to worry about
the Hall of Famer on the other side of the field.
So you know, it's a it's a nice, nice setup
they have. They're in a big win for the Rams
in that one buck your game, Jacksonville, San Francisco, you
start wherever you want. You want to start with the
coaches fighting after the game, you want to start with what.

Speaker 4 (34:41):
We saw on the game.

Speaker 2 (34:42):
Whatever you want, Let's talk about this because I feel
like Roberts Hollard broke a bit of a code when.

Speaker 4 (34:47):
He aired out this stuff about the science telling one.

Speaker 1 (34:51):
What he did is he used inflammatory language to talk
about things that every coach does on a daily.

Speaker 4 (34:58):
Basis, a weekly basis when it comes to running an offense.

Speaker 1 (35:01):
Basically, he used sign stealing to discuss the advantages of
shifts motions to uncover what the defense is doing. And
because he made it like it was this intricate covert operation,
it won. It was intentional because it created a bit
of a distraction for Jacksonville.

Speaker 4 (35:20):
But we're talking about things that we've been doing in
football forever.

Speaker 1 (35:23):
Literally, I line up in one formation, I shift, I motion,
I see the defensive reaction. I have two plays that
I can call after seeing the reaction. I make a
kill kill kill call to get into an optimal call.
Now he layered the conversation because they talk about TV
copy and some of the things that you can glean

(35:43):
from watching TV, like some of the hand signals that
you may use on defense to make sure you echo
and confirm the call.

Speaker 4 (35:51):
But hey man, that's that's that's.

Speaker 1 (35:53):
Stuff that's not really illegal one and it's not really
anything that people can do because it can't have in
real time part of normal game planning, Bucky, and so
it created this thing not only for Liam, but it
kind of is almost like Shanahan taking a shot at
the McVeigh guys, and it's just a weird dynamic. But

(36:14):
I will say it added a little spice to the
game because I knew the postgame reaction. I knew that
was going to happen in pregame because they'd always said,
hey man, if we win, there's gonna be some words uttered.
And I'll give Liam in those guys credit. As soon
as the one was there, he went right over there
and said some stuff. But it just takes away from

(36:35):
what I think is one of the best jobs I've
seen in terms of coaching. Lim Coin's done a really
good job of getting these guys to connect. It's funny
you were talking about the golfers and the European guys
and Rogerson. The biggest different with the Jags has little
do with the X and o's and more about the
high demands of accountability and the connectivity amongst the team
players and coaches. And that's really what makes good ball.

(36:58):
The best teams are the most connected, and the Jags
are winning because they're really connected.

Speaker 2 (37:03):
Yeah, it's interesting book. First of all, what a missed opportunity.
If I was Liam Cohen, I would have tried to
learn the sign language to keep my name out of
your mouth and I would assign it to him after
the game. That was a missed opportunity. Uh, yeah, exactly.
But Baldy, I'm gonna I'm gonna just get this to
you quick because this is the point I was going
to make him. Buck already got me there. Uh, had

(37:24):
a really good game. And there's a bunch of explosive runs.
And when you go back through and watch those explosive runs,
you know what you see And one of them you
see Hunter blocking his butt off Travis Hunter. On another
one you see BTJ blocking his butt off Strange a
tight end. Is it had a great he is a
he is a good player.

Speaker 4 (37:41):
Man.

Speaker 2 (37:41):
He is physical, he is tough. But when I watch
teams with wide receivers and tight ends efforting in the
in the run game like this, that tells me that
you're starting to build a pretty good culture.

Speaker 4 (37:51):
I agree, I agreed. I kind of felt it.

Speaker 3 (37:54):
I went I went to Jacksonville for OKAS this year
and sat up there, you know, with the GM with Baseli,
and we watched practice and we went down and talked
to Liam and Campanilla and the and the staff after
the practice. I kind of felt like that's what the
major emphasis was this whole off season and training camp

(38:19):
was we're building a team, and we're going to play
as a team.

Speaker 4 (38:22):
We're going to compete as one, and this is what
we need you to do.

Speaker 3 (38:25):
And the players, you know, either they buy in or
they kind of like, you know, have to listen to it.
But they bought into it. And honestly, they should have
beaten Cincinnati.

Speaker 4 (38:34):
They didn't drop so.

Speaker 3 (38:35):
Many passes in that game, and they could easily be
undefeated right now. So you know, there's nothing like people say, well,
everybody won't get off to a fast start, and they do,
but the fast start to a team that's turning things
around with a new coach, a new GM you know, Gladstone,
a new way of doing things. That early success is
paramount to keep that going, and that's where that's where

(38:57):
the confidence comes from. Is all right, this is what
they're preaching, this is what we're doing, and now we're
getting results early. All right, you know we got to
you know, not that it's just September, but we're going
to get a very competitive AFC South this year.

Speaker 2 (39:13):
I'm looking forward to it. Man, It's a big win
for them San Francisco. Man, they've had a bunch of
different injuries. McCaffrey played well and some nice things in
that game. I know, you got a quarterback. He's just
trying to play through its turf till right, is what.

Speaker 1 (39:26):
Yeah, it's the worst performance I've seen from Purty. And
I know because he's not off, because the things that
he did in that game are not typical of him.
Rush throws, eric passes, those things. He has always been
terrific and through them with touch, timing and anticipation, and
he was just a little off. And when you're playing
a team that plays so much zone like the Jags,

(39:48):
tips overthrows, interceptions and then the final part of the Niners.
The Niners are still a terrific team and they still
imposed it will they make you play to the level
when it comes to bully ball. The one thing that
I would say about them, they could not run the
football the way that they normally have been able to
run it. Christian McCaffrey could not get loose. Some of

(40:10):
that is the Jags, but some of that is also
that offensive line being able to dominate at the point
of attack. They're not the same version that we've seen
in the past from the Niners.

Speaker 2 (40:22):
Yeah, McCaffrey did his stuff in the past game, hum
about six for ninety two in a touch and they
can't run it. And they can't they couldn't run it
as much. All right, let's let's get to this last game.
We're going to have time to hit one more here
with Baldy. And that was a game you mentioned at
the top Baldy Minnesota in Pittsburgh.

Speaker 4 (40:41):
Yeah, well, you know, Pittsburgh hadn't been able to run
the ball at all.

Speaker 3 (40:45):
Yeah, the first three weeks this season, and they got
a running game with kind of Gamewell says his first start,
and I remember our buddy Andy Widel when he signed him.

Speaker 4 (40:54):
He signed him.

Speaker 3 (40:55):
Mostly because in the Super Bowl game, Gamewell had two
special team tackles. He thought special teams are going to
be important, and he made the free agent signing almost
But he also was always an excellent short yard and
goal line back. Even in the Super Bowl that they
lost uh to Kansas to Kansas City.

Speaker 4 (41:12):
He was really effective that year.

Speaker 3 (41:15):
And that was one of the guys that Widel drafted
out of Memphis, and he always had a good role
in Philadelphia. But yesterday they went to Spencer Anderson came
in as a third tackle and they used that formation
a lot. So you got Spencer Anderson, you got Darnell Washington,
and they just with Beach, you know, and they fed
game well and they got a running gate yesterday.

Speaker 4 (41:36):
For the first I thought that was that, and then
the defensive line showed up. You know.

Speaker 3 (41:40):
It was her Big, it was TJ it was Hayward,
it was Keanu Benton. Like they really got after Carson
Wentz and forced him into some mistakes. And I thought
those two things were enough to win that game against
the Minnesota team that's talented, But they forced the mistakes
by Carson Wentz one of them. You know, obviously the
interception by TJ just you know, obviously just in a

(42:02):
spy technique right there, just coming into the middle of
the field that set up you know, the go ahead touchdown.

Speaker 4 (42:08):
Buck.

Speaker 2 (42:09):
What do you see on that one? This one, this
is the one game of the ones we've talked about.
I did not get a chance to go to the tape,
so I saw on TV.

Speaker 4 (42:17):
By d Yeah. I think that's a little slant. He
ran right through the defense. I think that's that's the
main thing.

Speaker 1 (42:24):
I think it is the explosiveness of DK Metcalf being
able to hit him on the slant. And I will
say this going back to watching Aaron Rodgers and DK
Metcalf work prior to a preseason game down in Jacksonville,
and I tell you they worked on the route over
and over and over again. And even though it's a
day one instar route to run a little slant, it

(42:45):
is the timing and the execution. And the one thing
about Aaron Rodgers went protected, particularly the short game. The
ball comes out on time and on target, and he
hit DK Metcalf. It was almost like a four by
one relay platon exchange. He hit it and you said,
all this speed and the explosiveness in those things, and
is the offense being one that is smash mouth with

(43:07):
big play potential and then the defense being a shut
him down defense. And you're beginning to see this defense
kind of work together to get to that point. It's
not perfect, but the fact that they're three and one
while they're figuring it out bose well for them as
they really start to try and play their best football
down the stretch.

Speaker 2 (43:26):
I went back through and pulled Mike Kenneth Gainwell notes
while you guys were talking, because I was curious to
go back to that draft. So he was five eight three,
two hundred and one pounds, ran four to four to four.
He was my seventy eighth player in that draft. He
opted out of twenty twenty. They used him in the
backfield and in the slot, so they've kind of done
that with a lot of those Memphis backs. Lateral quicks,

(43:46):
he can run through contact, he'll spend, he's got real
good balance, He's elusive at fifty one catches. They use
him on a ton of angle routes. Got him out
in the route, let him get out there and do
that stuff. So he was somebody that had a pretty
fun skills that coming back out of college, someone you
could use as a route runner as well as somebody
who could carry the ball. And sometimes are these guys.
I mean, look the guy, he's backing up the best

(44:07):
running back in football. So he got a chance to
get an opportunity in Baldy. That's all these guys. Man,
you get an opportunity to be the lead dog. It's
up to you to make the most of it. Sounds
like he sure did well.

Speaker 3 (44:18):
They came in, They came in with one rushing touchdown
the first three weeks.

Speaker 4 (44:21):
He got two yesterday scored from the one scored from
the four.

Speaker 3 (44:25):
But he was always a good even before the toush
push really took over in Philly, like short yards and
goal and he was always good at just getting to
the crack and just you know and hitting and hint
both those yesterday for touchdown runs.

Speaker 4 (44:38):
The other part here DJ is, you know.

Speaker 3 (44:40):
They started the year and they got pushed all over
around by the Jets, and they ran the ball really
good against him, And there was louder Milk was out
there and Lowery was, well, they're going to the rookies now,
you know.

Speaker 4 (44:49):
The Armin's out there.

Speaker 3 (44:51):
Why they Black's out there, Jack Sawyer, Like they're playing
their rookies right now, and they're on the field and
they're all making you know, a variety of impacts now,
Bettan in the second year, it was really good yesterday,
it had kind of a slow start, but you're seeing
that rebuilt defensive line kind of rives up now and
we're going to see more, I think from those players.

Speaker 2 (45:10):
How about the Pittsburgh Steelers Aaron Rodgers three and one,
first place right now in that division with Baltimore one
and three, so they've got some ground to make up
here after a little tough start. Hey, Baldy Monday's always
enjoy it, man, you are the best. We see it.
We'll see it back here next week. Brother, ought to
talk to you, guys.

Speaker 4 (45:27):
Take care of it.

Speaker 2 (45:29):
There he goes Baldy is he is the best. It's
always a treat to do these episodes with him. On Mondays,
Buck you referenced it a little bit earlier. We're talking
off the air about my ryder Cup experience. Getting a
chance to go out there to Beth Page Black. I've
never been anything like that, so it was fun to
go out there. And check that out and golf individual sport.
But obviously this is a team event, and in Europe,

(45:52):
even though the US team has more quote unquote talent
or higher ranked players, a collection of higher rank players.
The team portion of the event the first two days
Europe smashes smashes America. So I'm sitting there watching this
and I'm kind of like putting my scouting hat on
and like I don't know enough about golf to be
able to tell who's you know, why this is happening.
But it was interesting because I sent you a picture

(46:13):
of like watching the Europeans go around the course. The
two golfers competing for Europe in the doubles matches, in
the pair matches, they're always walking together, they're talking to together.
There is a connectivity to them, whereas the Americans they're
all with their individual caddies, you know, as they're two
golfers with their own caddies, like the individual corporations kind
of you know, moving their way around the course. And
I'm like, yeah, that's this is not about the ability

(46:35):
level to skill level. This is about connectivity. And that's
something that in any team sport man, you got to
have it. And that was something that Europe definitely had
in spades.

Speaker 1 (46:45):
You know, DJ is funny, right, So you hear team
builders talk all the time. We're trying to build the
best team, not collect talent, and we can never underestimate
that part of it.

Speaker 4 (46:55):
Morehen it comes to team sports, it is not about
having a all the A level players.

Speaker 1 (47:00):
Is about having people that compliment one another, but more importantly,
people that are connected. Can you build the chemistry within
the group so they feel like they're planning for something
beyond their own individual agendas. And looking at the Riders
Cup because DJ, it was a blowout very very early
and everyone.

Speaker 4 (47:17):
Was wondering like, oh my gosh, what's going on.

Speaker 1 (47:19):
So when you send that picture over and I look,
I'm like, oh, that's what it is, Like, I'm really
connected to this person I buddy. John Gordon has talked
about the teams that give the most high fives and
fist bumps or whatever, like, they tend to win at
a far superior rate than the counterparts because you have
to have we're creatures, we have to have that human

(47:40):
connection to be able to sacrifice for one another.

Speaker 4 (47:43):
It's one of those things those X factors in team.

Speaker 1 (47:46):
Building that we don't talk about, but it's one of
the things that keeps those great teams together is the
glue is to chemistry.

Speaker 2 (47:54):
It's glue to everything, man, no question, man. We want
to remind every everybody we've got a new Forties and
Free Agent that's going to post tomorrow, So Bucky and
I will be back with Rhett on Wednesday. We'll have
the Rookie recap and the Rookie Draft on Wednesday's show,
so we'll have plenty more coming your way this week.
But excited to get to make KiB I might like

(48:16):
make a little fun of Rosena, all be nice about it,
but I'll make a little fun of him on Forties
and Free Agents, So be on the lookout for that.

Speaker 4 (48:23):
Buck.

Speaker 2 (48:24):
Always fun man, and love these mondays. I think we've
we've really got onto something having Baldy on here, and
it's always a fun chat man.

Speaker 4 (48:31):
No, there's always one DJ.

Speaker 1 (48:33):
The one thing I love about Baldy is when we're
able to collectively have that tape watching the experience and
to be able to chat about it. It takes me
all the way back to the scouting days when you
used to sit in the room and not have those meetings,
But it's when we're just casually looking at tape and
going through things.

Speaker 4 (48:48):
That's what this Monday reminds me of, reminds me of
going back in the day.

Speaker 2 (48:51):
Yeah, it is like getting in the way back machine there.
All right, that's going to do it for us. Hope
you guys enjoyed it as much as we did, and
we will see it tomorrow with a Forties and Free
Agents episode, followed by a lot more Moved to six
coming your way the rest of the week. Thanks m