October 6, 2025 • 45 mins
Daniel Jeremiah, Bucky Brooks, and Brian Baldinger recap the biggest matchups from Week 5 of the 2025 season. The crew kicks things off with the Sunday night shocker as the Patriots toppled their division rival, the Bills. (1:18) Then, they break down Broncos–Eagles (8:27), Buccaneers–Seahawks (14:17), Commanders–Chargers (22:10, Texans–Ravens (29:03), Lions–Bengals (32:39), Giants–Saints (41:10) and Vikings - Browns. (44:10)
Move the Sticks is a part of the NFL Podcasts Network.
NOTE: Timecodes approximate
See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Mark as Played
Transcript
Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:00):
And now move the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
What's up, everybody?
Speaker 3 (00:07):
Welcome to move the sticks on a Monday, DJ Buck
and Baldy.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Baldy. First of all, where the heck were you yesterday?
Speaker 4 (00:14):
I was in the jungle Cincinnati, Uh, watching Detroit just
just roll the way they have been rolling. And then
just watching, you know, horrible quarterback play from Jake Browning
to the point where I mean me and you and
Bucky we could sit here and we could draw plays
to get you know, tomorrow Chase. The ball didn't happen
to really the fourth quarter. It's just amazing. It was
(00:35):
just one of those games you better have some material
to fill because it was. It was really ugly till
the end.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
That's a rough one, Buck, you have a big one tonight.
That's where you're joining us remotely. You've got the chefs,
it's the Jags welcoming in the Kansas City Chiefs.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
So you got a big one tonight, buddy, Yeah, big one.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Excited the buzz around the city. You can feel there's
a lot of excitement. Cheese fans come in droves, and
so the last time the Jacks had like one of
these premier games. It didn't go well because Jake Browning
and Cincinnati Bengals tore them up two years ago on
a Monday night.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
So this is the chance for them to acquit themselves
a little better when the war has opportunity to see him. Yeah,
I'm looking forward to watching that game. Man.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
We're gonna rip through some of these games here and
hit it from some different angles. Let's start first of all,
Sunday night, or how about this for a little upset
special New England Buffalo Patriots going to Buffalo win twenty
three to twenty ball.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
They we'll just see.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
Well, the very first play of the game, Drake May
you know, throws it to Stefan Diggs and you know
he gets the first down, and then they just kept
feeding them. He looked as good as he's looked in
I don't know, two or three years. But they just
do a good job of balancing it up. Will Campbell's
a really good layer. Had a good game against Joey
Bosa and Epanessa out there. They run it with three backs,
(01:46):
they run it with Stevenson, they run it with you know, Henderson,
they run it with Gibson.
Speaker 5 (01:52):
They throw it to the they really used their backs.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
And you know, Drake May made a couple of plays
in that game that kind of reminds you of Josh Allen,
including you know, as he's going to the ground, you know,
and he gets the ball out to Digs, you know,
that final drive to get the game winning field goal.
Drake May stands tall in the pocket, he's he's he's
mobile without looking to to always run and take off,
you know, with some of these guys are in his league.
(02:17):
He looks like a real general out there. But that
that was impressive.
Speaker 5 (02:21):
That was impressive offensively, how they balance things up and uh,
you know, move the ball when they had to. But
I thought Digs, I thought Diggs was really strong.
Speaker 4 (02:29):
And then Hunter Henry keeps finding you know, I don't
know how many years Hunter has been in this league,
but he finds those spaces in the middle of the
field for the jump balls.
Speaker 5 (02:37):
But he could still go get it, you know, with
the best of them.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Right now, you know what's interesting about this. I love
all the stuff that you had to say about the
Tario Drake May. I just I just wish I could
just just put that in a little bottle and just
keep that when I just wax and.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
Pull in and see your schools allowed to actually post
about that.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
I'm focused about the league right now.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
I'm not worried about THEE but I will say this,
Drake May is another example I think of kind of
what we learned from Josh Allen because this college tape
wasn't perfect, but it was more the projection of what
he could be. But a lot of that projection should
have been based on the person. And I think what
you're seeing is the person, the leader, the connector comes out.
(03:21):
Going back to last week when he and Charlotte paid
Cam Newton a shout out when he scored, like he
has some swag to him that a lot of people
don't know, and I think that came to the forefront.
But to me, when I talk about the Patriots, this
is a Mike Rapel game.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
This is the classic.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
We go ugly, the game up, We'll do whatever we
need to do to get out of there with the win,
and the Bills played into their hands because the self
inflicted mistakes.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
It's ugly ball.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
When you played the Patriots with Mike Rabel and if
you're not on your a game, they'll snatched it in
the fourth quarter, much.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Like they did on Sunday Night.
Speaker 5 (03:56):
That's true, Bucky. But for the first time in literally
five years, the Patriots actually have real personnel. They have
real running backs, they have real receivers, a tight end,
a quarterback that actually can deliver. It's been a long time.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
It's been a long draft, going back to Belichick's last
two years. Before they could put a team around a
quarterback and a quarterback and actually drive the field and
look like, you know, a real NFL team.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
That was impressive.
Speaker 5 (04:22):
Man.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
I went back through all Drake's stuff, and you know
the stuff that was on time. He was on time, back,
foot ball gone. Then he went through a little bit
of an uneasy phase in this game, and then they
kind of got it back rolling again. He's under center
a lot, which I love watching a bunch of stuff
this week. There's a bunch of teams that seemed like
they're getting under center a little bit more, which was
good to see. They moved the pocket with him, knowing
they're gonna have to deal with some of the pass
(04:43):
rush stuff. The hunter, Henry, he had two grabs between
four guys. So you want to talk about finding space
like that, I don't know. He just finds that little
void and those are not easy throws. So I thought
young quarterbacks sometimes you get the live arm guys. But
there were some touch throws, some up and down throws
that he made that were big time impressive in that game.
The scramble stuff with digs, they were on the same
(05:04):
page with all that.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
When you get to the scramble drill, Like, there's a
couple guys in this league that when they see the
quarterback in trouble, they.
Speaker 5 (05:12):
Won the ball more than anybody on the field.
Speaker 4 (05:14):
It's just like a separate skill Like I saw Jamar
Chase yesterday digs. There's a few guys then when that
quarterback's in trouble they're getting nobody else getting They're getting
the ball.
Speaker 5 (05:24):
They're gonna find it.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
And I thought, you know, the big scramble to Digs
for thirty like that was a huge play. He got
his feet down and Drake, you know, was able to
get it out. But I mean, there's just certain guys
in this league. They want to get into the vision
of the quarterback.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
Yeah, the worst thing you can do from a quarterback
standpoint is just be static, like I'm moving. You need
to be moving, And there's all the scrambled rules. Everybody
knows about those, but there's I'm telling you that's not universal.
When you watch some of these games, these guys, some
of these scrambles, the receivers have no idea what to do.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
They give no, they don't give a picture at all.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
To the quarterback that digs digs recognition and then a
board and was in mediate like that was he immediately.
Speaker 5 (06:02):
Did a little you know, and it's like I'm gonna
go get to the sideline here.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Yep, it was. That was big time.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
One of my takeaways from the week overall, just going
through all this stuff was you can tell the teams
that are good on that stuff on the scrambled. The
other thing, the biggest takeaway for me for the whole week,
as we go through these games, you can tell the
teams that have a plan for pressure and those that don't.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
It's coming.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
Everybody's gonna get heated up in this league because we've
got exotic looks. We've got a defensive line talent advantage
over an offensive line talent in this league. So you
better have a plan and it better be you know,
it better be crisp, and you better be on your
your dotting your eyes and crossing your teeth. Some teams
they get blitzed. It's like a surprise party and they
have no idea how to handle it. But the scrambled
(06:45):
drill and having a plan there I thought was pretty interesting.
Speaker 4 (06:47):
I thought in that game too, you know, the Patriots
now have a true eye formation with the kid. I
think it's Jack west over number thirty seven. You know,
he was a lead blocker in some place, but they
run that scissors play where he goes one way and
then the back goes the other, and they scored a
touchdown on it, and he came back to it like
three times in the game, and it got you know,
those linebackers are reading the.
Speaker 5 (07:08):
Fullback and they just start flowing.
Speaker 4 (07:10):
I mean, it just clears things out to the point
where that last touchdown they scored. Honestly, Hunter Henry had
nobody to block. Everybody went with the fullback. You know,
it's classic Josh McDaniels and two back offense.
Speaker 5 (07:22):
And you know, and the Rabel's gonna subscribe to that.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
You know the thing about Stephan Diggs coming over and
it's what we saw with him kind of accelerating development
of Josh Allen there's something to be said for having
that veteran receiver that.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
Is reliable, dependable, trustworthy.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
In the passing game where they got nos, I always
can find the completion if I go to him. And
I thought Stephan Digg's comments after the game where he
really was giving Drake May his flowers because the comparisons
were coming Josh Allen Drake Man.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
He was like, hey, like, there's some of that stuff obviously, but.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
You want to make sure that Drake May is Drake
May because he has his own special qualities they want
to knowledge. I just feel like just the maturity that
he showed there and whatever he shows in the building,
there's some kind of synergy and connection that he makes
with young quarterbacks that helps them kind of grow. It
may only be a two or three year window, but
it certainly has proven true first with.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
Josh Allen, and now it looks like with Drake Matt
I did no doubt. And this is again think about
Josh McDaniels. It's impressive what he's done there. He looks
like vintage Josh McDaniels with how he's with how he's
dialing up all right, all right, Denver Philly Bluck wantn't
you jump first on this one?
Speaker 1 (08:31):
Okay, So there's a saying that the squeaky wheel gets
to grease, but sometimes you need to resist giving the
wheel to grease. Because the Philadelphia Eagles in that game,
that was an appease AJ Brown and Devonti Smith game.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
And look for a team that has been a successful
they been.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
I'm watching the game and being like, why are they
throwing the ball so much? This is not who they are.
And so the thing about it when you appease players.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Because players are just like your kids.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
After the game they lose, they still a bitching belly
achebeut not winning, so you can't please them.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
I just want to see the Eagles play like the Eagles.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
They need to run the football, they need to pass
as a compliment and really stick to the formula that
has really helped him be a dominant team. The AJ
Brown stuff and Devonte Smith' stuff is more to distraction
and all it would do it take him down a
wayward path.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
They would not end up in a Super Bowl appearance.
Speaker 4 (09:24):
Well to that point, sat one had one carry in
the fourth quarter when they couldn't drive together. One carry
in the fourth courter. This guy ran me. You know,
he broke records last year, one carrying the fourth quarter.
So I mean that's to your point, Bucky, like they're
they're doing what exactly what you said and then nothing.
I mean, DJ, you have spoken to this at times.
(09:46):
But nothing is on time in that offense, nothing like
there is no there is no time. It's actually alarming
when you watch, especially if you're just watching this and
all these other games and you're seeing Baker and you
know all these guys, you know Drake and throw these
things on like there's nothing on time. And as an
offensive lineman, nothing. I played with Rynald Cunningham. I loved Randall,
(10:09):
but that Randall only threw the ball when the receiver.
Speaker 5 (10:12):
Was looking at him. There was no anticipation there was,
and it wasn't anaka random.
Speaker 4 (10:17):
He had a great arm and when he threw it
he whistled it.
Speaker 5 (10:21):
But it reminds me a little bit of that. And
as an offensive line you're like.
Speaker 4 (10:24):
How long are we supposed to hold these blocks against
Nick Benito, you know, against Zach Allen, and that's you know,
they're getting sacks because they're holding the ball for six
seven seconds.
Speaker 5 (10:34):
It's it's ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
I looked at Benito's sacks.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
The first one, I just wrote coverage sack, like that's
just kind of a garbage coverage sack. The second one,
I mean they were the communication with both was not
good on a little game that they ran, so he
got he got kind of crossed up there. And then
the last one was kind of a slow loss to
my lotta uh where. I mean, he powered him, but
it was not a quick win. And as an offensive
lineman in the league ball, you know, it just don't
lose quick. They didn't lose quick like, they kind of
(10:59):
lost slow, but eventually you run out of time. So
that was the kind of Benito thing that six sacks
overall as a group, I wanted to go quickly buck
to the other side. Cortland Sutton had eight for ninety
nine in this game. I looked up the numbers. He's
on pace for twelve hundred and forty one yards and
ten touchdowns. Had a thousand yards last year, And I
(11:20):
was talking to text with you guys like he might
be one of the most underrated receivers. He's been game
with that long time. Yeah, Mitchell was with him a bunch.
There's a couple of times when he's in the slot
where he just kind of posts up in the zone.
But there was a lot of wins down the field. Actually,
one of the first target he got to go ball
down the side and he dropped where he got on
top of Quinnon immediately and didn't haul it in. But
(11:42):
he's physical at the top, working back. They killed him
with back shoulders even like some deep curl stuff. Like
to me, for a bigger guy, he gets back down
the stem pretty good. Like he's pretty efficient in his
movement and doing that stuff. And I buck I wrote
down on my notes, kind of gave me just watching him,
and I think we might even have made this compheny
he was coming out.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Gave me like some Brandon Marshall vibes.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Yeah, And I would say this, he's become a more
physical player in the league than he was when he
was coming out, because remember he was a big player,
but he kind of was. He had a big body,
but he played real finesse in his approach. He's become
a more physical player on the perimeter and using his
size to post uff and do that same observation that
you had. Man, he was giving Quinna Mitchell, who is
(12:23):
one of the emerging top corners in the league. He
was giving them the business very very early, and it
was part of a plan. And this why we talked
about coaching. But man, there's just a thing when you
have great coaches, guys that are schemers and tacticians and
understand that was a Sean Payton Advanced Joseph game like
they were on their game against the Eagles. The way
(12:45):
Sean Payton controlled the game, the way that he kind
of forced the issue when they went for two and
I was like, whoa, what is this. He's like, I'm
gonna control fate. I'm gonna make them react to us,
just all of it. And then the way that they
just the temple of the game. It was a Broncos
game from the start. Even though they were behind, it
still felt like the Broncos kind of had the game
(13:08):
on their terms. Look a credit to everything. Their first
nail is solid, but really shot paid and Van shows
they both do a masterful job of using the talent
and the tactics to put the game in their favor.
Speaker 4 (13:20):
And the other thing was that was a short week.
They played Monday night and travel like all those all
those factors that some people might be using as some
kind of an excuse if they don't play well and
they got off to a sluggish start. You know, but man,
they that defense is just what they do. It's it's
really They play so many coverages behind that front right now,
(13:42):
and they have five different guys that can win on
one on one. I thought Lane Johnson just shut out
Cooper over on one side, But I thought the other guys,
you know, really handled things pretty good upfront, and you know,
to just to see the Eagles just completely get away
from who they are your point, Bucky, like, that's that's
pretty that's pretty shocking.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
Actually, no question they had a chance to put that
game away and didn't do it. All right, let's get
to the game of the day, Tampa Bay Seattle. These
are two of the better teams in the league, both
playing at a very high level, aided by quarterbacks and
receiver combinations that have been electric. I mean, you think
about the connection with Sam and Baker teammates together for
the Carolina Panthers. That's insane when you think about that.
Speaker 5 (14:24):
Give me your notes, DJ on what you had on
Abuca coming at Like he just slides through everything, like
so he's so smooth.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
All right baldy, strong physical receiver with ability to play
inside or out. Quick in his release, he can fight
his way through press. I thought he's more of a
one speed route runner, but he's comfortable working in traffic.
He attacks the ball in the air in the middle
of the field. On vertical routes, he tracks the ball
extremely well. Has a knack for utilizing late hands to
prevent defender from playing the pocket and poking the ball away.
(14:54):
Has a great feel working in zones and adjusting this
route if the play is prolonged after the catch. More
toughness and pure speed to create extra yards. He's earned
rave reviews from NFL teams for the knowledge and leadership
uh he's shown when they've met with him. Overall, here's
the here's the kicker. Overall, I view abukas an impact
slot in the mold of former Buck guy Jackson Smith
and Jigba.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
They shared.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
They shared the field with both to tore the other
team apart. Yeah, but he's so nuanced. I'll pull my
note just from this game, just off of him. In
this game.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
Slot.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
He plays play inside, he play outside. He's so fluid
and smooth, wins on a whole shot lots of you
see skinny posts, you see a deep post. He's got
unbelievable feeling zone like, he's just got the awareness and
instinct to somebody who's been playing a heck of a
lot longer than he's played.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Buck.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
You know, here's the thing that I would say about
both of those guys, because it was funny when you
look at the guys that played around them. There's more
maybe flash and sizzle, But both of those guys I
think you could put at the end of your port
just a pro like.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
They just play the.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
Game like season veterans, pros, high i Q players, skill
route runners. They can do their job, and they have
the versatility that every offensive coordinator wants and at least
one receiver being able to play inside and outside.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
And look, man, we talked about Brian Hartline.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
We've said what Ohio State does to develop wide receivers,
but I think every Sunday is an inframercier for Ohio
State when it comes to their white house, like in
this game in particular, if I'm a recruit and I'm
looking at how they're having success, why wouldn't I go
to Ohio State because they appear to be next level
ready when they step in and a book in JSN
(16:34):
are prime examples of that, you know.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
They So they're down thirty five twenty eight with three
minutes to go, and Baker takes him on a five
place seventy yard drive with a touchdown to Shepherd and
the on the touchdown throw, he's looking for a book and.
Speaker 5 (16:50):
They double him. They bracket him pretty good. He takes
a peak, he looks through the right, it's not there.
Speaker 4 (16:55):
And then Baker does what he's been doing now, Like
his ability, it's not for there is some sort of
like movement, but how he moves and how he escapes
it's like it's different really than anybody else. And so
he escapes to his left and he takes a shot
to Shephard like I don't even know if he's open,
(17:15):
but he threw him open and he's getting chased pretty
good on the play. He was just an amaze, Like
that guy is a candidate to be the MVP of
this league.
Speaker 5 (17:24):
Right it's five weeks, I get it, But the way
that guy's playing with his shorthanded as a bet on
the offensive line at receivers, you name it, and for
them to be where they are he's he just keeps
getting better.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
All right, I'm gonna see if I can pull this
up because I wanted to go back through his report
because we're talking about these guys, and I'll get to
Darnold here in a second, because it's interesting. I think
these guys have kind of ended up where we hope
they would end up. Mayfield unique setup. He's frenetic, which
speaks to a little bit what you're talking about Baldi,
but he's consistently accurate despite throwing from a variety of
platforms and arm angles generates a ton of tork from
(17:59):
his lord body.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
You need to see him.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
Play in person to fully appreciate the way the ball
jumps out of his hand. His offensive line to night
chop keeping and clean, but when pressure, he showed the
ability to extend plays while keeping his eyes down the field.
He's accurate on the move, and while he lacks top speed,
he's very effective on desired QB runs. The biggest challenge
coming out of that offense involves a lack of tight
window throws he's had to make. It will take some
(18:22):
time for him to adjust to the lack of space.
At the next level. There are some questions about some
maturity stuff off the field. Long story short, Mayfield might
lack ideal size, but I love his accuracy, playmaking skills,
and toughness.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
He has the tools to be a quality starter early
in his career. So and that's kind of where he is.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
Which I want to get to Sam because I'll read
just Sam, yeah, and then we'll see, you know, if
if this sounds like this is kind of where he's
landed on as he's he's really up.
Speaker 5 (18:50):
You know. They he threw the interception of Levante and
they ran that weak side overload with Winfield coming free
to get to Sam. But they ran that.
Speaker 4 (18:59):
They ran that split six times against the Jets. They
got home every single time. It was either Winfield or
Powers was coming. And Todd can Todd will get a
free hitter to your quarterback man, He's going to happen.
And he just happened in the the biggest moment of
the game there in the final minute, fifty eight seconds ago.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
And no doubt here is the Sam thing.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
Thick, dirty frame operating the shotgun quick feet throws from
a wide base, has a long, loopy throwing motion, but
it's actually quick and explosive. He's showing the ability to
tighten up its times. It's very quick guys to work
through progressions and throws with an excellent anticipation. He can
change ball speed and ball flight. Has enough velocity to
fit balls and tight windows. Once he improves his weight transfer,
(19:39):
you'll see an up ticking accuracy and velocity. He's a
nifty athlete, capable of escaping free rushers and creating explosives
down the field. Very competitive runner fight for yards. Biggest
issue has been a fumble issue that he's had. I
needs to do a better job keeping both hands in
the ball in the pocket and covering the ball up
once he takes off. Overall, Darnold has some areas to
clean up. But I love his size, competitiveness, and ability
to make play on and off schedule. But he's gosh,
(20:03):
he's both these guys are playing great ball man. Look
at the numbers in this game. Uh, there weren't any
incomplete newspapers Rose, but Baker and Sam was twenty eight
for thirty four, Baker three seventy nine, Sam three forty one.
They combined for six touchdowns, a one pick, and then
the JSN stuff just kind of put a bow on
this whole thing. Uh, he's living outside man. For I
(20:25):
thought he was going to be an unbelievable slot receiver.
He has turned into one of the best outside receivers
in the NFL. He's plenty capable out there. He's he
wins and slants Buck in such a variety of ways
where you'll see one step slants and you'll see him whin.
You'll see guys off of him, and he has that
kind of aj brown like the little heal give him
a full two hand shove, you know, if they're gonna
(20:46):
squad on him and creates that separation there. Then he
also can he can weaven stem guys up and get
them off their off balance across their face. But he
has become an unbelievably effective slant route runner. And then
when he's working in the middle of the field, running
through zones, he's got such a feel for tempo. You
know how many times you see guys just run to
get covered like he's got a really good feel. I mean,
(21:08):
I think that's the thing. These guys have been trained
and taught very well by heartline to your point, Buck,
but I think both these players are so naturally instinctive
and have just a great feel for the game.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
Yeah. No, they're really talented.
Speaker 5 (21:21):
Man.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
They do a great job and their versatility is everything.
And to me, when you are a number one on
an aspiring number one, the more tools that you have
in your toolbox to allow your offensive coordinator to move
you around to get away from some of the tactics
and double coverage and brackets and those things, you just
need to have that in your arsenal. So I just
(21:41):
feel like both of these guys are well equipped to
always be impact players because you can do so many
different things with them as young players that you can
only imagine as their knowledge base grows, what you're going
to be able to do when they're year five, six
seven in the.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
League, No doubt.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
Let's say, quick Pause will back into a game I
was at the had a wild turn the Commanders, and
the Chargers will jump into that right after this. All right, guys,
that was a weird one at SOLFI yesterday. I mean
the Chargers are up ten to nothing. They're driving big
completion to Quentin Johnson. You think it's going to be
seventeen nothing and it's going to be kind of a laugher,
(22:19):
and then Quent Johnson fumbles and then that just changed
the momentum of this game. But it was it was
a game baldy where the Commanders got stronger as the
game went along. The Chargers for the second week in
a row, a ton of penalties, double digit penalties, some
costly penalties, including a touchdown that was called back on
a punt return. But man, I don't know how you
go anywhere else than what that backfield looks like now, Washington.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
It's pretty exciting. Man.
Speaker 4 (22:42):
Well that Bill Krossky Merritt. I mean, this story is
it has to, you know, continue to blow up. But
he's I mean, we saw there was a reason why
you know, they they traded Brian Robinson at the start
of the season, like they saw this guy's ability.
Speaker 5 (22:57):
And the story is just an amazing story.
Speaker 4 (22:59):
Didn't play or all the stuff that we kind of
talked about, but his put that foot in the ground
quickness and the way that they are running the ball
right now using a variety of formations.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
Those tight ends are freaking leads in there.
Speaker 4 (23:13):
Man at number eighty seven is as good at blocking
tight end as there is right now in the league,
and they run behind him a bunch, and so it's Uh,
it's you know, it's it's it's always been Cliffs Mantra, honestly,
even when he was at Texas Tech and even go
back to A and M like spread him out and
figure out ways to open up the lanes and we're
gonna we're gonna hit him quick. And he's got every
(23:35):
run in the book. And it can be from unbalanced formations,
it can be from power power formations in the backfield,
it can be you know, out of the shotgun. It
could be used in the quarterback as a decoy. Mean,
he's got every variety of run that there is right.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
Now, Buck, they flipped.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
They flipped on one play the quarterback and the running
back and then and then Merritt, big bad Bill runs
freaking wildcat like his own reading gets right up into
the hole. Like I mean, it was just they were
it was it was very creative. And it wasn't just Bates,
who's an unbelievable blocker sent it did a nice job
as well.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
Eighty two.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
Uh, both those Titans leading up into the hole. So
they were they were creative, they were physical, and they
kind of you know, look when you when you're looking
at that team and you're sitting there going okay, Man,
I looked at him on tape watching them, I'm like,
the secondary is giving up more big plays than anybody
in football. I don't know that they're all that dynamic
and their defensive front. And then all of a sudden
you get a healthy Jayden Daniels back in there, and
(24:30):
Mario did a nice job, but this is different. He's
a different caliber guy and it brings quarterbacks like that,
and you've talked about it before. It just brings hope
and and it brings energy to the whole club.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
It brings energy. It was a homecoming for Jade Daniels
coming back.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
Played alcoholm high school, so this was the opportunity for
all of his people to see him.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
You knew he's gonna put on a show.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
And I would say the thing that is really impressive,
not only about him, but about the Commander's team is Man,
they go as he goes, and he's the drumbeat, but
he has a calm demeanor about him.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
Sat where it does.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
The game doesn't get too high or out of source
and DJ, the thing that you said that stood out
on tape was their overall physicality, Like you know, it's
funny because Cliff Kingsbury gets.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
To the wrap of being the air raid Wizard.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
They want to throw it all over the yard, but
at the heart of arts, like they run the football,
the dan Quinn is working in Joe Whitjew, You're working
to get this defense on track. And when you look
at the landscape, you look at the NFC East and
how tight it was and how they made ground.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
They stumbled out the gate.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
For the last few weeks, we've seen this team kind
of be the team that many of us expected, and.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
So they're in the hunting.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
As long as they have that quarterback healthy, they have
a chance because they can go knock off anybody.
Speaker 5 (25:39):
GJ.
Speaker 4 (25:40):
I saw von Miller had a couple couple more sacks.
Is he like the official closer right now? Does he
still have von Miller type? You know, like getting his
hands on guys and just figuring out how to you know,
either bend or come off a twist or whatever.
Speaker 5 (25:55):
I have to watch, so I'm looking forward to see it.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
Yeah, he's still got the long arm and so he
can dust that off. And then the Chargers, i mean,
Pipkins goes down. So you got your fourth and fifth
tackles out there. Yeah, yeah, that was I mean, you
got no chance, but so you got overseet issues and
they had some wins inside of those tackles. So it
was a tough one for Herbert from that standpoint. But
I was thinking of it, like I know nothing about music.
(26:19):
I've never had a music lesson, I've never played an
instrument at all. But I have this image of like
if you're Cliff Kingsbury, is you're a drummer and the
symbol is Deebo Samuel because you're just kind of hitting
the drums and it's like, oh yeah, let's just get
a little quick screen to debo.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
Okay, boom boom boom.
Speaker 3 (26:34):
Let's get a little quick screen to deep. That's seven
to ten yards anytime you want it, anytime you want
to hit that little symbol and just shoot the ball
out there Deebo Samuel. By the time you get him
on the ground, it's seven or eight yards.
Speaker 4 (26:45):
Do you think on Cliff's play sheet he just has
deebo plays like there's just ten plays right there. Then
he can you know, second and seven, Okay, let's go
get the first down, Like it could be that simple
right now.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
And the other thing is on those over routes, Like
a lot of times you think about over routes, think
about okay, it's a just pure speed. You're just trying
to get from A to B as fast as you can.
He is so good. I've never seen somebody so strong
without using their hands. Or he'll just get up to
the defender buck and it's just like a little shoulder
and he's just so big and strong. It just kicks
that corner off his path for two or three yards.
(27:18):
And Devo is not the fastest guy roll, but that
little nudget that he gives on those things, it's enough
separation he needs to get across the field and make plays.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
Man he is.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
Look, he's the invitiment of why you know some teams
prefer to have guys with punk returned skills in the
background out wide And when you see him and you
think about his bodybuild and how thick he is, DJ
the challenge that he poses to DB's is trying to
get him down in space because he's a physical runner.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
He has big size, big legs.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
He runs through arm tackles and so you got to
front him up to get him down. And the more
they give him the ball on those short screens, or whatever,
the better he gets when they get it all together
mclauren and Debo and and they kind of kind of
figure out what's the best combination to maximize everybody Office
(28:06):
is going to be more explosive then we could ever imagine.
This is a really good team of well constructed team
and look, the best is still yet to comfort them
as they're still turning over.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
Their roster from your guys playing career Baldi buck is deep.
Is there any comp for historical comp for Debo just
kind of how he plays? I mean, I know Sterling
was so much faster. That's that's that's that's I think.
Speaker 5 (28:28):
Ye didn't use them like that, but they could have
something like that.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
I just couldn't.
Speaker 4 (28:33):
I just think, you know, sometimes like I think Debo,
he didn't wear out as welcome.
Speaker 5 (28:38):
They just didn't use them.
Speaker 4 (28:39):
I mean they outside of putting them in at the
tailback position when they were short handed, they didn't use them.
I think the way Cliff is using them, I think
it's just a perfect blend. The analogy with the with
the symbol is pretty good there.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
DJ.
Speaker 4 (28:54):
I just feel like they just know how to use them,
you know, and use his strengths and and it's like
a really, it's a great fit early this season.
Speaker 3 (29:03):
All right, we don't need to spend long on these
next few here, but I wanted to hit a couple
of things here, Houston Baltimore, and I could go easily
into the Baltimore bad, but I'm going to start Houston
good Stroud twenty three to twenty seven. And I know
Baltimore's missing everybody, but they needed a game like that
from him. Two hundred and forty four yards, four touchdowns,
no picks. It was interesting to watch the tape when
(29:24):
they were when they were in pocket, everything was in rhythm.
There was some play action, the ball was gone like
they were not going to let this offensive line, you know,
have be a stumbling block for him. So it was
in the pocket, get the ball out quick, which obviously
you're not going to be able to get the ball vertical.
When they wanted to take their shots down the field,
it was boots and they were moving the pocket. So hey,
(29:44):
we want to be able to attack vertically, but we're
not going to do that as a stationary target in
the pocket behind an offensive line. It's a little suspect.
So we're going to go ahead and get him on
the move and we want to push the ball vertical.
I thought it was a pretty good game plan from
them that he executed really well. And then Jalen Petrie
had two picks. Who's and a good player in this
league since he came out of Baylor, and he's goot,
he's kind of Johnny on the spot, always around the football.
Speaker 4 (30:06):
I thought the one two punch of Chubb and Woody
marks is uh is pretty strong. I mean, that's the
best offensive line play. I know they changed coordinators. You know,
Ariante's over at left tackle. I've seen them both sides
right now, But that was the best the line played
in the running game. I thought they had a good
one to two punch in the run game yesterday. And
(30:27):
then you know, Nico's Nico, Like they Baltimore had no
idea what to do with him. I mean, it was
one good throw after another. But you know, Hutchinson came
up pretty big, is it Zebra Hutchinson?
Speaker 2 (30:37):
Yeah, yep. Iowa State, Iowa State.
Speaker 4 (30:39):
Yeah, Like I thought all the you know, they got
a whole bunch of Iowa State receivers. I think all
those guys you know, had good contributions yesterday.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
Buck.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
How about the Baltimore side. You want to be the
bad guy? Yeah, man, it's it's bad.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
DJ is bad.
Speaker 4 (30:54):
Now.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
I know they had seven quote unquote Pro bowlers they
were sitting out, but still, man, it's not supposed to
fall this far off. And before I even talk about
the lack of talent in terms of like that being
off the field, to me, this is the first time
in a long time that I've seen the Baltimore Ravens without.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
Their swagging, their identity. They're a swaggerless team.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
This is a team that has always been able to
lean into We may be shorthanded, but we can beat
you up. We can make it a brawl in those things.
And right now they don't have the confidence. And part
of the reason they don't have the confidence because the
first time in a long time, their defense is the
weak link. They're bad on defense, I mean, and they're
bad on the fundamental the fundamental things, tackling, pursuit, angles, alignment,
(31:39):
basic stuff. Never seen the Ravens like this. And I
know and never advocate for people losing.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
Jobs or whatever.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
And I know John Harborough through his full support behind
Zach Orr and I know they have other guys but
the Jay, the clock is ticking one and four.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
For a team that is as talented as they come,
they have to fix this. D fits in a hurry.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
They got a week, did a bye week, but man,
change has to come and has to come right now.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
Yeah, it's bad.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
And Kyle Vanoy his quote was gapp put in the
chat here no excuses. I just watched the Niners have injuries,
go out there and play football. As professionals, you get
paid to place. We have to go play better. We
have to get ours together just being brutally honest. Coaches
can give us the plays, but we have to execute.
And it doesn't matter who you are in there, do
your job. Coaches asked you to do something, do it,
myself included. So yeah, they realized that it's not good enough.
(32:30):
The way they've played. I can't recall it. The never
I can't recall because there never has been a Baltimore
defense like this. Ever, it's bad, ever bad. Baldy Detroit, Cincinnati,
you were there, what you see?
Speaker 4 (32:42):
You know yesterday Detroit was rolling out a alumni of
University of British Columbia. You've been up there to recruit
tape only Okay, So you know, they've got two starting
tackles in this league right now.
Speaker 5 (32:58):
All right, yesterday, uh this Giovanni Maneu made.
Speaker 4 (33:02):
His first NFL start. He's a second year player from
British Clubia. That the kid, Theos Benedict in Chicago starting
at left tackle. So I talked to Hank Frailey. So
Hank was kind of like, he's going up against a
good player. They've all will find out what he's all about.
But you know, they let him go against you know,
Trey Henderson, and Trey made a couple of plays out there.
He definitely got a force fumble and made some plays.
Speaker 5 (33:23):
But the kid, first of all, when you see the kid,
he's six seven, he's long arms, he's got a shaved head,
like he looks the part, you know. And then you
go and you go, okay.
Speaker 4 (33:34):
There's Penny Sewel and there's the there's the mullet on
Ratlds right here. Like they've got this thing together up front,
and so it doesn't matter if Montgomery's running or if
he's throwing it, or if it's Jamiir Gibbs.
Speaker 5 (33:48):
Like they've got a formula right now.
Speaker 4 (33:51):
And every week it seems like Johnny Morton's got a
guy that's gonna kind of be the So yesterday, you know,
the tight end had a big day and it was
crossing round they got they hit these crossing routes to
him and Demon Ross Saint Brown, and honestly, it looks
like a Friday afternoon walkthrough, Like basically golf doesn't get hit.
(34:12):
He stands there on his post and stand five yards
and he just carves him up, and uh, it was.
It was pretty impressive. They were really shorthanded in the
secondary on defense. But the quarterback was so bad that
even with Jamar Chase and and t I thought they
could take advantage of it out there, and they just
he was just so bad.
Speaker 5 (34:30):
I don't know what he was doing.
Speaker 4 (34:31):
It was, it was. It was really rough to watch it.
They can't run the ball at all. They're lasting offense.
They made a couple of plays in the fourth quarter
to try to try to stay in the game a
little bit, but it was it was hard to watch them,
and it was a that was a that was a
beat down.
Speaker 5 (34:45):
Pretty good.
Speaker 3 (34:46):
Joe Burrow might get MVP votes.
Speaker 1 (34:47):
Fuck, he should get MVP boats based on how they
look without him there.
Speaker 2 (34:52):
I mean, it's just a bad football team.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
And it's funny, right because I'm there when Joe Burrow
gets hurt, Jake brown comes in and the second half
he gets hot, and then then the world at the
table was like, Okay, we're going to cut that off
and nail what.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
And they haven't been able to put anything.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
And I have seen Jake Browning at his best couple
of years ago when he stepped in and kind of
had them in contention for a playoffs.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
But he look, he's been bad.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
And look, it's it's criminal in terms of the wasted
talent that they have on the perimeter when you don't
have anybody who can get them the ball.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
But here's that's the biggest thing.
Speaker 4 (35:25):
I think one of the issues bucking why Jake Browning,
you know, isn't playing worth of darn is they look
like they're running the same offense that Joe Burrow runs,
you know, and Joe just goes through progressions like nobody
else in his business. So he can take a peek
at tomorrow. Okay, they got him bracketed. Okay, I'm coming
over to the other side, like Jake can't play like that.
(35:45):
So I don't see some of the creativity DJing that
we see in this league to get guys loose, to
shake the loose where it's a you know, like what
they're doing in Indianapolis for you know Daniel Jones right now,
Like they don't they're not doing those kind of things
to get to the ball or to get Ja Mar
the ball. And you know it's not Look, it's an
(36:06):
indictment on Brownie. He's not good enough. But don't ask
Brownie to be Joe Burrow out there and play quarterback.
Speaker 3 (36:11):
Yeah, well, Joe Burrow is the best whack a mole
player in the NFL. I mean, like if there's he sees,
he sees the entire board and is able to react
to it unlike anybody else. So there's not just a
Browning thing. I don't know many quarterbacks that could play
the way the Burrow plays. I want to go back
over to golf real quick. I wrote this down, like
you know, you're watching guys and at different positions, and
you're sitting there going, you know, if I had a
(36:32):
high school quarterback and I wanted to have somebody with
teaching tape. Yeah, I don't know anybody thinks that golf
might be the one that I would pick because I've
always been taught. You know, it's almost like the John
Wooden thing. Be quick, but not in a hurry. You know,
you want to have quick feet, but you don't want
to be you know, too frazzled or too too too
frenetic or too busy. He has got really really quick feet.
(36:54):
But everything he does is so smooth and fluid and easy.
And part of that I get is because the offensive
line is so good and they afford him clean pockets,
but he throws from a firm platform. It's everything is
textbook about what he does. They did a ton of
stuff in this game where they pair up the tight
ends on the same side and they had you know,
I think about creativity and some of the stuff they did.
Uh that was that was an effective way for him.
(37:16):
But I just thought, man, this is the best quick, smooth, fluid,
you know quarterback when I was growing up and I
was young, but I used to always and when I
just started playing in college, like they would always show
us stuff of Montana.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
That was the guy.
Speaker 3 (37:29):
He's like, Okay, he's not the biggest guy to have
the strongest arm or anything. Well, look at how fluid
and smoothies. I like just be as smooth and flu
We used to talk about even like kind of rocking
the ball and your drop like kind of from shoulder
to shoulder and just kind of allowing yourself to get
a nice little smooth rhythm to it, and and golf
plays that way. So he was again foreign completions. There's
a lot of games where quarterbacks just didn't throw in completions.
(37:49):
You only have four completions and three touchdowns. So he
is great almost forty games.
Speaker 4 (37:54):
Easy Yeah, easy moved off their gas in the fourth Quarner.
Speaker 1 (37:59):
Let me say this because I might have been the
biggest skeptic when it came to John Morton and David Sean.
Speaker 2 (38:05):
All these guys taken over for.
Speaker 1 (38:07):
Ben Johnson, all of the physical and fun stuff that
Ben Johnson has done. They've been able to continue to
do some of that while finding their identity and listen
to a mom Rod Saint Brown talk to Dave Montgomery
on a podcast and they were talking about the differences
between Ben Johnson and Johnny Moe and how Johnny Moe
is direct and he's a little different when it comes
(38:29):
to the edginess of his presentations.
Speaker 2 (38:31):
But they've retained some of this fun.
Speaker 1 (38:33):
Stuff, and they still have I would say, like the
physicality and toughness the Wildcat played down at the goal
line Montgomery during the jump.
Speaker 2 (38:44):
Pass, like they still have some of that stuff.
Speaker 1 (38:46):
I just give John Morton a lot of credit because
I think he stepped into some big shoes to replace
because you had an expectation of what this offense has been.
Speaker 2 (38:56):
It's hard to keep the points up, the.
Speaker 1 (38:59):
Physicality up, makes it some fun plays and do all that.
But he's found a way to do it within his
own personality. So it ass off to him for being
able to take that over and do it well.
Speaker 5 (39:10):
All putting up forty and really Jameis and William has
been very quiet the last two weeks, and so like
once they get him going and his speed like it's
I don't know, I don't know if anybody can slow
him down right now.
Speaker 2 (39:23):
Have they told you, Baldi how much they're given golf.
Speaker 3 (39:25):
It feels like he's got maybe a little more control
in this in this environment that maybe I just talked.
Speaker 5 (39:30):
To him briefly on the field before the game. He
takes his warm up pretty.
Speaker 4 (39:34):
Serious, so you know, you don't want to interrupt too
much of that, but he just has a like just
the level of focus. You know, going on the road
in Cincinnati, your crowd was all there, Like just the
focus that he plays with, like he just blocks all
that stuff out and it is he sees the field
so good.
Speaker 5 (39:52):
He had laporta early in that game.
Speaker 4 (39:53):
So many times they had no they had no answer
for some of the stuff they were doing.
Speaker 3 (39:58):
Now and on the defensive side of the five quarterback
hits for Aden Hudginson, He's got five sacks this year.
I went back and watched all of his sacks. He's
winning all the ways. Man power.
Speaker 4 (40:07):
Yesterday DJF wasn't for a little contact on Terry on Arnold. Yeah,
he had a safety you know, Dad to that that
resume right now, that was impressive.
Speaker 3 (40:16):
And you know the burst is still there when he
can escape and close. There's some there's some change of
direction stuff like he worked out here to spin in
a previous game where just he not quite as fluid
coming off that injury, which I'm sure that's going to come.
But speed power, his hands are awesome, Like he looks
like he's he's back and you kind of man, you
don't want to look in the rear view mirror. What
if he didn't get hurt last year? You know, what
(40:38):
does that mean for that Detroit team.
Speaker 4 (40:40):
I talked to I talked to Zeus before the game,
and he never played him before, but he knew that.
Speaker 5 (40:44):
You know, we're talking about max effort.
Speaker 4 (40:47):
He makes more plays on the other side of the
field than any defensive end of this league right now.
Speaker 5 (40:52):
His effort is.
Speaker 3 (40:53):
Just you know, he's got Jared Allen traits to him.
So that's who he reminded me of when he was
coming out. Not just doing the white on white edge
rusher comparison there, but that just the effort, like Jared
Allen never stopped. Yeah, all right, let's last one here
and then we'll be on. Let Baldy get on his
way here. Giants Saints. Hey, the Saints won a game.
(41:16):
Spencer Ratler won a game. Body, Yeah, no, I mean,
and you know, he has been playing pretty well, but
I got you know.
Speaker 4 (41:22):
They hit the big shot to Rashid Shaheed which really
kind of opened things up.
Speaker 5 (41:27):
They got to turnovers, but he's been playing well.
Speaker 4 (41:30):
Like you know, they had Buffalo twenty one sixteen in
the fourth quarter. They were driving last week and they
let it get away from him. They had Arizona like
right down to the wire. They've been playing pretty good.
Kellimore's he's a good coordinator.
Speaker 5 (41:45):
He just knows how to run off and say if
they got a good one two punch with Kendre Miller
and you know, and Kamaras can still do it.
Speaker 4 (41:54):
They had a rook they had a rookie right guard
you know that never played before in there, and the
Giants didn't take advantage of him. In fact, Spencer Rattler,
I don't think he got sacked in the game. I
don't even know if he got hit. So he looked good.
Speaker 5 (42:06):
He took off and he ran a couple of times,
but he hit the big shot when it was there.
Just he's their deep threat. I thought he was. I
thought he played really well.
Speaker 3 (42:15):
He's got a live arm man. Just going back through that,
he has got a really he actually does. I know
it's not just Oklahoma thing, but the ball comes out
similar to Baker like, ball jumps out of his hand
when he's driving the ball outside the numbers. Not a big,
big guy, but he's got a loose, live arm book.
Speaker 2 (42:31):
Yeah, I mean, look it.
Speaker 1 (42:33):
It's something to watch these two teams right, because you're
thinking the Giants are about to get it going.
Speaker 2 (42:40):
Jackson Dark comes in the first drive that he had
looked terrific, and then just man, just the turnovers.
Speaker 1 (42:46):
Like I think they had five drives in a row
that just were just debacles, and you just can't have
those kinds of things when you're a team that can't
overwhelm people. And I just look at the Giants and
I just think, like, like, I like the fun stuff
that they're doing. I like how they're trying to maximize it.
But he has to value the ball. And then sometimes
Dave Ball has to kind of help him by calling
(43:08):
things that don't put him in a situation where he
is exposed where he can't turn the ball over.
Speaker 3 (43:13):
Now, no Molik Neighbors sucks man. You're hoping to really
get a chance to watch this young quarterback grow and develop,
and you lose your big time weapons.
Speaker 1 (43:19):
So can I say this break Baldy, did you see
camp scattered boot.
Speaker 2 (43:25):
On the block him?
Speaker 1 (43:26):
Yeah, like I know the lost but holy smoked in
terms of just like a stature like just man up
under and just.
Speaker 5 (43:37):
Hells people watch people. Man, he comes, he gets all
up in the grill.
Speaker 4 (43:42):
It looks like MMA stuff in the octagon, man, like
the way that he takes people down.
Speaker 2 (43:48):
Yeah, he did it.
Speaker 3 (43:48):
He did it on the draw last week, so he's
he's done it a couple of weeks in a row here,
but yeah, he Congrats to Kellen Moore. He's a great dude.
He is a very good coach. And I just didn't
think they'd have enough players to be competitive, and they've
been competitive, as you mentioned that. Uh, and they got
themselves a win here, so congrats to them. Also, love
kind of doing a lot more RPO stuff with with
Rattler two. He's very comfortable with all that. So hey,
(44:10):
Dylan Gabriel real quick had a good Uh. I know
they didn't win the game, but he was good. He
was efficient. I think, hey, that's there's nothing I saw there.
They would say, I'm looking anywhere else. I'm gonna roll
at him until until.
Speaker 4 (44:21):
You look at that. You look at the first touchdown
to Fanning. There's Fanning, you know, there's Quinn, Shawn Jenkins,
there's Dylan. I mean, they got the rookies all out there.
Speaker 2 (44:30):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (44:31):
You know Dylan Samson's playing leads the team and tackles
every week. Uh, Mason Graham's been really good. I mean, look,
they're they're a rebuild mode. But I thought he got
rid of the ball quickly, accurately. You know, he had
him in contention right to the very end.
Speaker 3 (44:46):
Yeah, no good stuff there from Dylan Gabriel. Almost see
how the rest of those rookies played the rest of
the year. Again, they've got they'll be watching the Jags
game tonight, Buck Cleveland intently paying attention to your bag,
of course, with their chiefs, with their chiefs hats on.
Speaker 1 (45:00):
I mean, I know, like hopefully the Jacks don't give
them anything to be excited about.
Speaker 3 (45:05):
They got a couple of picks here in the first
round next year, so it could be exciting days to
head here for Cleveland. Baldi, appreciate your time on Mondays.
Everybody loves these things, man, they're great. Appreciate everybody listening.
We'll see you next time right here on.
Speaker 2 (45:16):
Move the sticks.
And now move the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
What's up, everybody?
Speaker 3 (00:07):
Welcome to move the sticks on a Monday, DJ Buck
and Baldy.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Baldy. First of all, where the heck were you yesterday?
Speaker 4 (00:14):
I was in the jungle Cincinnati, Uh, watching Detroit just
just roll the way they have been rolling. And then
just watching, you know, horrible quarterback play from Jake Browning
to the point where I mean me and you and
Bucky we could sit here and we could draw plays
to get you know, tomorrow Chase. The ball didn't happen
to really the fourth quarter. It's just amazing. It was
(00:35):
just one of those games you better have some material
to fill because it was. It was really ugly till
the end.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
That's a rough one, Buck, you have a big one tonight.
That's where you're joining us remotely. You've got the chefs,
it's the Jags welcoming in the Kansas City Chiefs.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
So you got a big one tonight, buddy, Yeah, big one.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Excited the buzz around the city. You can feel there's
a lot of excitement. Cheese fans come in droves, and
so the last time the Jacks had like one of
these premier games. It didn't go well because Jake Browning
and Cincinnati Bengals tore them up two years ago on
a Monday night.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
So this is the chance for them to acquit themselves
a little better when the war has opportunity to see him. Yeah,
I'm looking forward to watching that game. Man.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
We're gonna rip through some of these games here and
hit it from some different angles. Let's start first of all,
Sunday night, or how about this for a little upset
special New England Buffalo Patriots going to Buffalo win twenty
three to twenty ball.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
They we'll just see.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
Well, the very first play of the game, Drake May
you know, throws it to Stefan Diggs and you know
he gets the first down, and then they just kept
feeding them. He looked as good as he's looked in
I don't know, two or three years. But they just
do a good job of balancing it up. Will Campbell's
a really good layer. Had a good game against Joey
Bosa and Epanessa out there. They run it with three backs,
(01:46):
they run it with Stevenson, they run it with you know, Henderson,
they run it with Gibson.
Speaker 5 (01:52):
They throw it to the they really used their backs.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
And you know, Drake May made a couple of plays
in that game that kind of reminds you of Josh Allen,
including you know, as he's going to the ground, you know,
and he gets the ball out to Digs, you know,
that final drive to get the game winning field goal.
Drake May stands tall in the pocket, he's he's he's
mobile without looking to to always run and take off,
you know, with some of these guys are in his league.
(02:17):
He looks like a real general out there. But that
that was impressive.
Speaker 5 (02:21):
That was impressive offensively, how they balance things up and uh,
you know, move the ball when they had to. But
I thought Digs, I thought Diggs was really strong.
Speaker 4 (02:29):
And then Hunter Henry keeps finding you know, I don't
know how many years Hunter has been in this league,
but he finds those spaces in the middle of the
field for the jump balls.
Speaker 5 (02:37):
But he could still go get it, you know, with
the best of them.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Right now, you know what's interesting about this. I love
all the stuff that you had to say about the
Tario Drake May. I just I just wish I could
just just put that in a little bottle and just
keep that when I just wax and.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
Pull in and see your schools allowed to actually post
about that.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
I'm focused about the league right now.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
I'm not worried about THEE but I will say this,
Drake May is another example I think of kind of
what we learned from Josh Allen because this college tape
wasn't perfect, but it was more the projection of what
he could be. But a lot of that projection should
have been based on the person. And I think what
you're seeing is the person, the leader, the connector comes out.
(03:21):
Going back to last week when he and Charlotte paid
Cam Newton a shout out when he scored, like he
has some swag to him that a lot of people
don't know, and I think that came to the forefront.
But to me, when I talk about the Patriots, this
is a Mike Rapel game.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
This is the classic.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
We go ugly, the game up, We'll do whatever we
need to do to get out of there with the win,
and the Bills played into their hands because the self
inflicted mistakes.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
It's ugly ball.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
When you played the Patriots with Mike Rabel and if
you're not on your a game, they'll snatched it in
the fourth quarter, much.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Like they did on Sunday Night.
Speaker 5 (03:56):
That's true, Bucky. But for the first time in literally
five years, the Patriots actually have real personnel. They have
real running backs, they have real receivers, a tight end,
a quarterback that actually can deliver. It's been a long time.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
It's been a long draft, going back to Belichick's last
two years. Before they could put a team around a
quarterback and a quarterback and actually drive the field and
look like, you know, a real NFL team.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
That was impressive.
Speaker 5 (04:22):
Man.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
I went back through all Drake's stuff, and you know
the stuff that was on time. He was on time, back,
foot ball gone. Then he went through a little bit
of an uneasy phase in this game, and then they
kind of got it back rolling again. He's under center
a lot, which I love watching a bunch of stuff
this week. There's a bunch of teams that seemed like
they're getting under center a little bit more, which was
good to see. They moved the pocket with him, knowing
they're gonna have to deal with some of the pass
(04:43):
rush stuff. The hunter, Henry, he had two grabs between
four guys. So you want to talk about finding space
like that, I don't know. He just finds that little
void and those are not easy throws. So I thought
young quarterbacks sometimes you get the live arm guys. But
there were some touch throws, some up and down throws
that he made that were big time impressive in that game.
The scramble stuff with digs, they were on the same
(05:04):
page with all that.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
When you get to the scramble drill, Like, there's a
couple guys in this league that when they see the
quarterback in trouble, they.
Speaker 5 (05:12):
Won the ball more than anybody on the field.
Speaker 4 (05:14):
It's just like a separate skill Like I saw Jamar
Chase yesterday digs. There's a few guys then when that
quarterback's in trouble they're getting nobody else getting They're getting
the ball.
Speaker 5 (05:24):
They're gonna find it.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
And I thought, you know, the big scramble to Digs
for thirty like that was a huge play. He got
his feet down and Drake, you know, was able to
get it out. But I mean, there's just certain guys
in this league. They want to get into the vision
of the quarterback.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
Yeah, the worst thing you can do from a quarterback
standpoint is just be static, like I'm moving. You need
to be moving, And there's all the scrambled rules. Everybody
knows about those, but there's I'm telling you that's not universal.
When you watch some of these games, these guys, some
of these scrambles, the receivers have no idea what to do.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
They give no, they don't give a picture at all.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
To the quarterback that digs digs recognition and then a
board and was in mediate like that was he immediately.
Speaker 5 (06:02):
Did a little you know, and it's like I'm gonna
go get to the sideline here.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Yep, it was. That was big time.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
One of my takeaways from the week overall, just going
through all this stuff was you can tell the teams
that are good on that stuff on the scrambled. The
other thing, the biggest takeaway for me for the whole week,
as we go through these games, you can tell the
teams that have a plan for pressure and those that don't.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
It's coming.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
Everybody's gonna get heated up in this league because we've
got exotic looks. We've got a defensive line talent advantage
over an offensive line talent in this league. So you
better have a plan and it better be you know,
it better be crisp, and you better be on your
your dotting your eyes and crossing your teeth. Some teams
they get blitzed. It's like a surprise party and they
have no idea how to handle it. But the scrambled
(06:45):
drill and having a plan there I thought was pretty interesting.
Speaker 4 (06:47):
I thought in that game too, you know, the Patriots
now have a true eye formation with the kid. I
think it's Jack west over number thirty seven. You know,
he was a lead blocker in some place, but they
run that scissors play where he goes one way and
then the back goes the other, and they scored a
touchdown on it, and he came back to it like
three times in the game, and it got you know,
those linebackers are reading the.
Speaker 5 (07:08):
Fullback and they just start flowing.
Speaker 4 (07:10):
I mean, it just clears things out to the point
where that last touchdown they scored. Honestly, Hunter Henry had
nobody to block. Everybody went with the fullback. You know,
it's classic Josh McDaniels and two back offense.
Speaker 5 (07:22):
And you know, and the Rabel's gonna subscribe to that.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
You know the thing about Stephan Diggs coming over and
it's what we saw with him kind of accelerating development
of Josh Allen there's something to be said for having
that veteran receiver that.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
Is reliable, dependable, trustworthy.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
In the passing game where they got nos, I always
can find the completion if I go to him. And
I thought Stephan Digg's comments after the game where he
really was giving Drake May his flowers because the comparisons
were coming Josh Allen Drake Man.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
He was like, hey, like, there's some of that stuff obviously, but.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
You want to make sure that Drake May is Drake
May because he has his own special qualities they want
to knowledge. I just feel like just the maturity that
he showed there and whatever he shows in the building,
there's some kind of synergy and connection that he makes
with young quarterbacks that helps them kind of grow. It
may only be a two or three year window, but
it certainly has proven true first with.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
Josh Allen, and now it looks like with Drake Matt
I did no doubt. And this is again think about
Josh McDaniels. It's impressive what he's done there. He looks
like vintage Josh McDaniels with how he's with how he's
dialing up all right, all right, Denver Philly Bluck wantn't
you jump first on this one?
Speaker 1 (08:31):
Okay, So there's a saying that the squeaky wheel gets
to grease, but sometimes you need to resist giving the
wheel to grease. Because the Philadelphia Eagles in that game,
that was an appease AJ Brown and Devonti Smith game.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
And look for a team that has been a successful
they been.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
I'm watching the game and being like, why are they
throwing the ball so much? This is not who they are.
And so the thing about it when you appease players.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Because players are just like your kids.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
After the game they lose, they still a bitching belly
achebeut not winning, so you can't please them.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
I just want to see the Eagles play like the Eagles.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
They need to run the football, they need to pass
as a compliment and really stick to the formula that
has really helped him be a dominant team. The AJ
Brown stuff and Devonte Smith' stuff is more to distraction
and all it would do it take him down a
wayward path.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
They would not end up in a Super Bowl appearance.
Speaker 4 (09:24):
Well to that point, sat one had one carry in
the fourth quarter when they couldn't drive together. One carry
in the fourth courter. This guy ran me. You know,
he broke records last year, one carrying the fourth quarter.
So I mean that's to your point, Bucky, like they're
they're doing what exactly what you said and then nothing.
I mean, DJ, you have spoken to this at times.
(09:46):
But nothing is on time in that offense, nothing like
there is no there is no time. It's actually alarming
when you watch, especially if you're just watching this and
all these other games and you're seeing Baker and you
know all these guys, you know Drake and throw these
things on like there's nothing on time. And as an
offensive lineman, nothing. I played with Rynald Cunningham. I loved Randall,
(10:09):
but that Randall only threw the ball when the receiver.
Speaker 5 (10:12):
Was looking at him. There was no anticipation there was,
and it wasn't anaka random.
Speaker 4 (10:17):
He had a great arm and when he threw it
he whistled it.
Speaker 5 (10:21):
But it reminds me a little bit of that. And
as an offensive line you're like.
Speaker 4 (10:24):
How long are we supposed to hold these blocks against
Nick Benito, you know, against Zach Allen, and that's you know,
they're getting sacks because they're holding the ball for six
seven seconds.
Speaker 5 (10:34):
It's it's ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
I looked at Benito's sacks.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
The first one, I just wrote coverage sack, like that's
just kind of a garbage coverage sack. The second one,
I mean they were the communication with both was not
good on a little game that they ran, so he
got he got kind of crossed up there. And then
the last one was kind of a slow loss to
my lotta uh where. I mean, he powered him, but
it was not a quick win. And as an offensive
lineman in the league ball, you know, it just don't
lose quick. They didn't lose quick like, they kind of
(10:59):
lost slow, but eventually you run out of time. So
that was the kind of Benito thing that six sacks
overall as a group, I wanted to go quickly buck
to the other side. Cortland Sutton had eight for ninety
nine in this game. I looked up the numbers. He's
on pace for twelve hundred and forty one yards and
ten touchdowns. Had a thousand yards last year, And I
(11:20):
was talking to text with you guys like he might
be one of the most underrated receivers. He's been game
with that long time. Yeah, Mitchell was with him a bunch.
There's a couple of times when he's in the slot
where he just kind of posts up in the zone.
But there was a lot of wins down the field. Actually,
one of the first target he got to go ball
down the side and he dropped where he got on
top of Quinnon immediately and didn't haul it in. But
(11:42):
he's physical at the top, working back. They killed him
with back shoulders even like some deep curl stuff. Like
to me, for a bigger guy, he gets back down
the stem pretty good. Like he's pretty efficient in his
movement and doing that stuff. And I buck I wrote
down on my notes, kind of gave me just watching him,
and I think we might even have made this compheny
he was coming out.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Gave me like some Brandon Marshall vibes.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Yeah, And I would say this, he's become a more
physical player in the league than he was when he
was coming out, because remember he was a big player,
but he kind of was. He had a big body,
but he played real finesse in his approach. He's become
a more physical player on the perimeter and using his
size to post uff and do that same observation that
you had. Man, he was giving Quinna Mitchell, who is
(12:23):
one of the emerging top corners in the league. He
was giving them the business very very early, and it
was part of a plan. And this why we talked
about coaching. But man, there's just a thing when you
have great coaches, guys that are schemers and tacticians and
understand that was a Sean Payton Advanced Joseph game like
they were on their game against the Eagles. The way
(12:45):
Sean Payton controlled the game, the way that he kind
of forced the issue when they went for two and
I was like, whoa, what is this. He's like, I'm
gonna control fate. I'm gonna make them react to us,
just all of it. And then the way that they
just the temple of the game. It was a Broncos
game from the start. Even though they were behind, it
still felt like the Broncos kind of had the game
(13:08):
on their terms. Look a credit to everything. Their first
nail is solid, but really shot paid and Van shows
they both do a masterful job of using the talent
and the tactics to put the game in their favor.
Speaker 4 (13:20):
And the other thing was that was a short week.
They played Monday night and travel like all those all
those factors that some people might be using as some
kind of an excuse if they don't play well and
they got off to a sluggish start. You know, but man,
they that defense is just what they do. It's it's
really They play so many coverages behind that front right now,
(13:42):
and they have five different guys that can win on
one on one. I thought Lane Johnson just shut out
Cooper over on one side, But I thought the other guys,
you know, really handled things pretty good upfront, and you know,
to just to see the Eagles just completely get away
from who they are your point, Bucky, like, that's that's
pretty that's pretty shocking.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
Actually, no question they had a chance to put that
game away and didn't do it. All right, let's get
to the game of the day, Tampa Bay Seattle. These
are two of the better teams in the league, both
playing at a very high level, aided by quarterbacks and
receiver combinations that have been electric. I mean, you think
about the connection with Sam and Baker teammates together for
the Carolina Panthers. That's insane when you think about that.
Speaker 5 (14:24):
Give me your notes, DJ on what you had on
Abuca coming at Like he just slides through everything, like
so he's so smooth.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
All right baldy, strong physical receiver with ability to play
inside or out. Quick in his release, he can fight
his way through press. I thought he's more of a
one speed route runner, but he's comfortable working in traffic.
He attacks the ball in the air in the middle
of the field. On vertical routes, he tracks the ball
extremely well. Has a knack for utilizing late hands to
prevent defender from playing the pocket and poking the ball away.
(14:54):
Has a great feel working in zones and adjusting this
route if the play is prolonged after the catch. More
toughness and pure speed to create extra yards. He's earned
rave reviews from NFL teams for the knowledge and leadership
uh he's shown when they've met with him. Overall, here's
the here's the kicker. Overall, I view abukas an impact
slot in the mold of former Buck guy Jackson Smith
and Jigba.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
They shared.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
They shared the field with both to tore the other
team apart. Yeah, but he's so nuanced. I'll pull my
note just from this game, just off of him. In
this game.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
Slot.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
He plays play inside, he play outside. He's so fluid
and smooth, wins on a whole shot lots of you
see skinny posts, you see a deep post. He's got
unbelievable feeling zone like, he's just got the awareness and
instinct to somebody who's been playing a heck of a
lot longer than he's played.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Buck.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
You know, here's the thing that I would say about
both of those guys, because it was funny when you
look at the guys that played around them. There's more
maybe flash and sizzle, But both of those guys I
think you could put at the end of your port
just a pro like.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
They just play the.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
Game like season veterans, pros, high i Q players, skill
route runners. They can do their job, and they have
the versatility that every offensive coordinator wants and at least
one receiver being able to play inside and outside.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
And look, man, we talked about Brian Hartline.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
We've said what Ohio State does to develop wide receivers,
but I think every Sunday is an inframercier for Ohio
State when it comes to their white house, like in
this game in particular, if I'm a recruit and I'm
looking at how they're having success, why wouldn't I go
to Ohio State because they appear to be next level
ready when they step in and a book in JSN
(16:34):
are prime examples of that, you know.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
They So they're down thirty five twenty eight with three
minutes to go, and Baker takes him on a five
place seventy yard drive with a touchdown to Shepherd and
the on the touchdown throw, he's looking for a book and.
Speaker 5 (16:50):
They double him. They bracket him pretty good. He takes
a peak, he looks through the right, it's not there.
Speaker 4 (16:55):
And then Baker does what he's been doing now, Like
his ability, it's not for there is some sort of
like movement, but how he moves and how he escapes
it's like it's different really than anybody else. And so
he escapes to his left and he takes a shot
to Shephard like I don't even know if he's open,
(17:15):
but he threw him open and he's getting chased pretty
good on the play. He was just an amaze, Like
that guy is a candidate to be the MVP of
this league.
Speaker 5 (17:24):
Right it's five weeks, I get it, But the way
that guy's playing with his shorthanded as a bet on
the offensive line at receivers, you name it, and for
them to be where they are he's he just keeps
getting better.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
All right, I'm gonna see if I can pull this
up because I wanted to go back through his report
because we're talking about these guys, and I'll get to
Darnold here in a second, because it's interesting. I think
these guys have kind of ended up where we hope
they would end up. Mayfield unique setup. He's frenetic, which
speaks to a little bit what you're talking about Baldi,
but he's consistently accurate despite throwing from a variety of
platforms and arm angles generates a ton of tork from
(17:59):
his lord body.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
You need to see him.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
Play in person to fully appreciate the way the ball
jumps out of his hand. His offensive line to night
chop keeping and clean, but when pressure, he showed the
ability to extend plays while keeping his eyes down the field.
He's accurate on the move, and while he lacks top speed,
he's very effective on desired QB runs. The biggest challenge
coming out of that offense involves a lack of tight
window throws he's had to make. It will take some
(18:22):
time for him to adjust to the lack of space.
At the next level. There are some questions about some
maturity stuff off the field. Long story short, Mayfield might
lack ideal size, but I love his accuracy, playmaking skills,
and toughness.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
He has the tools to be a quality starter early
in his career. So and that's kind of where he is.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
Which I want to get to Sam because I'll read
just Sam, yeah, and then we'll see, you know, if
if this sounds like this is kind of where he's
landed on as he's he's really up.
Speaker 5 (18:50):
You know. They he threw the interception of Levante and
they ran that weak side overload with Winfield coming free
to get to Sam. But they ran that.
Speaker 4 (18:59):
They ran that split six times against the Jets. They
got home every single time. It was either Winfield or
Powers was coming. And Todd can Todd will get a
free hitter to your quarterback man, He's going to happen.
And he just happened in the the biggest moment of
the game there in the final minute, fifty eight seconds ago.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
And no doubt here is the Sam thing.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
Thick, dirty frame operating the shotgun quick feet throws from
a wide base, has a long, loopy throwing motion, but
it's actually quick and explosive. He's showing the ability to
tighten up its times. It's very quick guys to work
through progressions and throws with an excellent anticipation. He can
change ball speed and ball flight. Has enough velocity to
fit balls and tight windows. Once he improves his weight transfer,
(19:39):
you'll see an up ticking accuracy and velocity. He's a
nifty athlete, capable of escaping free rushers and creating explosives
down the field. Very competitive runner fight for yards. Biggest
issue has been a fumble issue that he's had. I
needs to do a better job keeping both hands in
the ball in the pocket and covering the ball up
once he takes off. Overall, Darnold has some areas to
clean up. But I love his size, competitiveness, and ability
to make play on and off schedule. But he's gosh,
(20:03):
he's both these guys are playing great ball man. Look
at the numbers in this game. Uh, there weren't any
incomplete newspapers Rose, but Baker and Sam was twenty eight
for thirty four, Baker three seventy nine, Sam three forty one.
They combined for six touchdowns, a one pick, and then
the JSN stuff just kind of put a bow on
this whole thing. Uh, he's living outside man. For I
(20:25):
thought he was going to be an unbelievable slot receiver.
He has turned into one of the best outside receivers
in the NFL. He's plenty capable out there. He's he
wins and slants Buck in such a variety of ways
where you'll see one step slants and you'll see him whin.
You'll see guys off of him, and he has that
kind of aj brown like the little heal give him
a full two hand shove, you know, if they're gonna
(20:46):
squad on him and creates that separation there. Then he
also can he can weaven stem guys up and get
them off their off balance across their face. But he
has become an unbelievably effective slant route runner. And then
when he's working in the middle of the field, running
through zones, he's got such a feel for tempo. You
know how many times you see guys just run to
get covered like he's got a really good feel. I mean,
(21:08):
I think that's the thing. These guys have been trained
and taught very well by heartline to your point, Buck,
but I think both these players are so naturally instinctive
and have just a great feel for the game.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
Yeah. No, they're really talented.
Speaker 5 (21:21):
Man.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
They do a great job and their versatility is everything.
And to me, when you are a number one on
an aspiring number one, the more tools that you have
in your toolbox to allow your offensive coordinator to move
you around to get away from some of the tactics
and double coverage and brackets and those things, you just
need to have that in your arsenal. So I just
(21:41):
feel like both of these guys are well equipped to
always be impact players because you can do so many
different things with them as young players that you can
only imagine as their knowledge base grows, what you're going
to be able to do when they're year five, six
seven in the.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
League, No doubt.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
Let's say, quick Pause will back into a game I
was at the had a wild turn the Commanders, and
the Chargers will jump into that right after this. All right, guys,
that was a weird one at SOLFI yesterday. I mean
the Chargers are up ten to nothing. They're driving big
completion to Quentin Johnson. You think it's going to be
seventeen nothing and it's going to be kind of a laugher,
(22:19):
and then Quent Johnson fumbles and then that just changed
the momentum of this game. But it was it was
a game baldy where the Commanders got stronger as the
game went along. The Chargers for the second week in
a row, a ton of penalties, double digit penalties, some
costly penalties, including a touchdown that was called back on
a punt return. But man, I don't know how you
go anywhere else than what that backfield looks like now, Washington.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
It's pretty exciting. Man.
Speaker 4 (22:42):
Well that Bill Krossky Merritt. I mean, this story is
it has to, you know, continue to blow up. But
he's I mean, we saw there was a reason why
you know, they they traded Brian Robinson at the start
of the season, like they saw this guy's ability.
Speaker 5 (22:57):
And the story is just an amazing story.
Speaker 4 (22:59):
Didn't play or all the stuff that we kind of
talked about, but his put that foot in the ground
quickness and the way that they are running the ball
right now using a variety of formations.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
Those tight ends are freaking leads in there.
Speaker 4 (23:13):
Man at number eighty seven is as good at blocking
tight end as there is right now in the league,
and they run behind him a bunch, and so it's Uh,
it's you know, it's it's it's always been Cliffs Mantra, honestly,
even when he was at Texas Tech and even go
back to A and M like spread him out and
figure out ways to open up the lanes and we're
gonna we're gonna hit him quick. And he's got every
(23:35):
run in the book. And it can be from unbalanced formations,
it can be from power power formations in the backfield,
it can be you know, out of the shotgun. It
could be used in the quarterback as a decoy. Mean,
he's got every variety of run that there is right.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
Now, Buck, they flipped.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
They flipped on one play the quarterback and the running
back and then and then Merritt, big bad Bill runs
freaking wildcat like his own reading gets right up into
the hole. Like I mean, it was just they were
it was it was very creative. And it wasn't just Bates,
who's an unbelievable blocker sent it did a nice job
as well.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
Eighty two.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
Uh, both those Titans leading up into the hole. So
they were they were creative, they were physical, and they
kind of you know, look when you when you're looking
at that team and you're sitting there going okay, Man,
I looked at him on tape watching them, I'm like,
the secondary is giving up more big plays than anybody
in football. I don't know that they're all that dynamic
and their defensive front. And then all of a sudden
you get a healthy Jayden Daniels back in there, and
(24:30):
Mario did a nice job, but this is different. He's
a different caliber guy and it brings quarterbacks like that,
and you've talked about it before. It just brings hope
and and it brings energy to the whole club.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
It brings energy. It was a homecoming for Jade Daniels
coming back.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
Played alcoholm high school, so this was the opportunity for
all of his people to see him.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
You knew he's gonna put on a show.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
And I would say the thing that is really impressive,
not only about him, but about the Commander's team is Man,
they go as he goes, and he's the drumbeat, but
he has a calm demeanor about him.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
Sat where it does.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
The game doesn't get too high or out of source
and DJ, the thing that you said that stood out
on tape was their overall physicality, Like you know, it's
funny because Cliff Kingsbury gets.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
To the wrap of being the air raid Wizard.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
They want to throw it all over the yard, but
at the heart of arts, like they run the football,
the dan Quinn is working in Joe Whitjew, You're working
to get this defense on track. And when you look
at the landscape, you look at the NFC East and
how tight it was and how they made ground.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
They stumbled out the gate.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
For the last few weeks, we've seen this team kind
of be the team that many of us expected, and.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
So they're in the hunting.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
As long as they have that quarterback healthy, they have
a chance because they can go knock off anybody.
Speaker 5 (25:39):
GJ.
Speaker 4 (25:40):
I saw von Miller had a couple couple more sacks.
Is he like the official closer right now? Does he
still have von Miller type? You know, like getting his
hands on guys and just figuring out how to you know,
either bend or come off a twist or whatever.
Speaker 5 (25:55):
I have to watch, so I'm looking forward to see it.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
Yeah, he's still got the long arm and so he
can dust that off. And then the Chargers, i mean,
Pipkins goes down. So you got your fourth and fifth
tackles out there. Yeah, yeah, that was I mean, you
got no chance, but so you got overseet issues and
they had some wins inside of those tackles. So it
was a tough one for Herbert from that standpoint. But
I was thinking of it, like I know nothing about music.
(26:19):
I've never had a music lesson, I've never played an
instrument at all. But I have this image of like
if you're Cliff Kingsbury, is you're a drummer and the
symbol is Deebo Samuel because you're just kind of hitting
the drums and it's like, oh yeah, let's just get
a little quick screen to debo.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
Okay, boom boom boom.
Speaker 3 (26:34):
Let's get a little quick screen to deep. That's seven
to ten yards anytime you want it, anytime you want
to hit that little symbol and just shoot the ball
out there Deebo Samuel. By the time you get him
on the ground, it's seven or eight yards.
Speaker 4 (26:45):
Do you think on Cliff's play sheet he just has
deebo plays like there's just ten plays right there. Then
he can you know, second and seven, Okay, let's go
get the first down, Like it could be that simple
right now.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
And the other thing is on those over routes, Like
a lot of times you think about over routes, think
about okay, it's a just pure speed. You're just trying
to get from A to B as fast as you can.
He is so good. I've never seen somebody so strong
without using their hands. Or he'll just get up to
the defender buck and it's just like a little shoulder
and he's just so big and strong. It just kicks
that corner off his path for two or three yards.
(27:18):
And Devo is not the fastest guy roll, but that
little nudget that he gives on those things, it's enough
separation he needs to get across the field and make plays.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
Man he is.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
Look, he's the invitiment of why you know some teams
prefer to have guys with punk returned skills in the
background out wide And when you see him and you
think about his bodybuild and how thick he is, DJ
the challenge that he poses to DB's is trying to
get him down in space because he's a physical runner.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
He has big size, big legs.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
He runs through arm tackles and so you got to
front him up to get him down. And the more
they give him the ball on those short screens, or whatever,
the better he gets when they get it all together
mclauren and Debo and and they kind of kind of
figure out what's the best combination to maximize everybody Office
(28:06):
is going to be more explosive then we could ever imagine.
This is a really good team of well constructed team
and look, the best is still yet to comfort them
as they're still turning over.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
Their roster from your guys playing career Baldi buck is deep.
Is there any comp for historical comp for Debo just
kind of how he plays? I mean, I know Sterling
was so much faster. That's that's that's that's I think.
Speaker 5 (28:28):
Ye didn't use them like that, but they could have
something like that.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
I just couldn't.
Speaker 4 (28:33):
I just think, you know, sometimes like I think Debo,
he didn't wear out as welcome.
Speaker 5 (28:38):
They just didn't use them.
Speaker 4 (28:39):
I mean they outside of putting them in at the
tailback position when they were short handed, they didn't use them.
I think the way Cliff is using them, I think
it's just a perfect blend. The analogy with the with
the symbol is pretty good there.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
DJ.
Speaker 4 (28:54):
I just feel like they just know how to use them,
you know, and use his strengths and and it's like
a really, it's a great fit early this season.
Speaker 3 (29:03):
All right, we don't need to spend long on these
next few here, but I wanted to hit a couple
of things here, Houston Baltimore, and I could go easily
into the Baltimore bad, but I'm going to start Houston
good Stroud twenty three to twenty seven. And I know
Baltimore's missing everybody, but they needed a game like that
from him. Two hundred and forty four yards, four touchdowns,
no picks. It was interesting to watch the tape when
(29:24):
they were when they were in pocket, everything was in rhythm.
There was some play action, the ball was gone like
they were not going to let this offensive line, you know,
have be a stumbling block for him. So it was
in the pocket, get the ball out quick, which obviously
you're not going to be able to get the ball vertical.
When they wanted to take their shots down the field,
it was boots and they were moving the pocket. So hey,
(29:44):
we want to be able to attack vertically, but we're
not going to do that as a stationary target in
the pocket behind an offensive line. It's a little suspect.
So we're going to go ahead and get him on
the move and we want to push the ball vertical.
I thought it was a pretty good game plan from
them that he executed really well. And then Jalen Petrie
had two picks. Who's and a good player in this
league since he came out of Baylor, and he's goot,
he's kind of Johnny on the spot, always around the football.
Speaker 4 (30:06):
I thought the one two punch of Chubb and Woody
marks is uh is pretty strong. I mean, that's the
best offensive line play. I know they changed coordinators. You know,
Ariante's over at left tackle. I've seen them both sides
right now, But that was the best the line played
in the running game. I thought they had a good
one to two punch in the run game yesterday. And
(30:27):
then you know, Nico's Nico, Like they Baltimore had no
idea what to do with him. I mean, it was
one good throw after another. But you know, Hutchinson came
up pretty big, is it Zebra Hutchinson?
Speaker 2 (30:37):
Yeah, yep. Iowa State, Iowa State.
Speaker 4 (30:39):
Yeah, Like I thought all the you know, they got
a whole bunch of Iowa State receivers. I think all
those guys you know, had good contributions yesterday.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
Buck.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
How about the Baltimore side. You want to be the
bad guy? Yeah, man, it's it's bad.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
DJ is bad.
Speaker 4 (30:54):
Now.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
I know they had seven quote unquote Pro bowlers they
were sitting out, but still, man, it's not supposed to
fall this far off. And before I even talk about
the lack of talent in terms of like that being
off the field, to me, this is the first time
in a long time that I've seen the Baltimore Ravens without.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
Their swagging, their identity. They're a swaggerless team.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
This is a team that has always been able to
lean into We may be shorthanded, but we can beat
you up. We can make it a brawl in those things.
And right now they don't have the confidence. And part
of the reason they don't have the confidence because the
first time in a long time, their defense is the
weak link. They're bad on defense, I mean, and they're
bad on the fundamental the fundamental things, tackling, pursuit, angles, alignment,
(31:39):
basic stuff. Never seen the Ravens like this. And I
know and never advocate for people losing.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
Jobs or whatever.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
And I know John Harborough through his full support behind
Zach Orr and I know they have other guys but
the Jay, the clock is ticking one and four.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
For a team that is as talented as they come,
they have to fix this. D fits in a hurry.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
They got a week, did a bye week, but man,
change has to come and has to come right now.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
Yeah, it's bad.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
And Kyle Vanoy his quote was gapp put in the
chat here no excuses. I just watched the Niners have injuries,
go out there and play football. As professionals, you get
paid to place. We have to go play better. We
have to get ours together just being brutally honest. Coaches
can give us the plays, but we have to execute.
And it doesn't matter who you are in there, do
your job. Coaches asked you to do something, do it,
myself included. So yeah, they realized that it's not good enough.
(32:30):
The way they've played. I can't recall it. The never
I can't recall because there never has been a Baltimore
defense like this. Ever, it's bad, ever bad. Baldy Detroit, Cincinnati,
you were there, what you see?
Speaker 4 (32:42):
You know yesterday Detroit was rolling out a alumni of
University of British Columbia. You've been up there to recruit
tape only Okay, So you know, they've got two starting
tackles in this league right now.
Speaker 5 (32:58):
All right, yesterday, uh this Giovanni Maneu made.
Speaker 4 (33:02):
His first NFL start. He's a second year player from
British Clubia. That the kid, Theos Benedict in Chicago starting
at left tackle. So I talked to Hank Frailey. So
Hank was kind of like, he's going up against a
good player. They've all will find out what he's all about.
But you know, they let him go against you know,
Trey Henderson, and Trey made a couple of plays out there.
He definitely got a force fumble and made some plays.
Speaker 5 (33:23):
But the kid, first of all, when you see the kid,
he's six seven, he's long arms, he's got a shaved head,
like he looks the part, you know. And then you
go and you go, okay.
Speaker 4 (33:34):
There's Penny Sewel and there's the there's the mullet on
Ratlds right here. Like they've got this thing together up front,
and so it doesn't matter if Montgomery's running or if
he's throwing it, or if it's Jamiir Gibbs.
Speaker 5 (33:48):
Like they've got a formula right now.
Speaker 4 (33:51):
And every week it seems like Johnny Morton's got a
guy that's gonna kind of be the So yesterday, you know,
the tight end had a big day and it was
crossing round they got they hit these crossing routes to
him and Demon Ross Saint Brown, and honestly, it looks
like a Friday afternoon walkthrough, Like basically golf doesn't get hit.
(34:12):
He stands there on his post and stand five yards
and he just carves him up, and uh, it was.
It was pretty impressive. They were really shorthanded in the
secondary on defense. But the quarterback was so bad that
even with Jamar Chase and and t I thought they
could take advantage of it out there, and they just
he was just so bad.
Speaker 5 (34:30):
I don't know what he was doing.
Speaker 4 (34:31):
It was, it was. It was really rough to watch it.
They can't run the ball at all. They're lasting offense.
They made a couple of plays in the fourth quarter
to try to try to stay in the game a
little bit, but it was it was hard to watch them,
and it was a that was a that was a
beat down.
Speaker 5 (34:45):
Pretty good.
Speaker 3 (34:46):
Joe Burrow might get MVP votes.
Speaker 1 (34:47):
Fuck, he should get MVP boats based on how they
look without him there.
Speaker 2 (34:52):
I mean, it's just a bad football team.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
And it's funny, right because I'm there when Joe Burrow
gets hurt, Jake brown comes in and the second half
he gets hot, and then then the world at the
table was like, Okay, we're going to cut that off
and nail what.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
And they haven't been able to put anything.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
And I have seen Jake Browning at his best couple
of years ago when he stepped in and kind of
had them in contention for a playoffs.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
But he look, he's been bad.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
And look, it's it's criminal in terms of the wasted
talent that they have on the perimeter when you don't
have anybody who can get them the ball.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
But here's that's the biggest thing.
Speaker 4 (35:25):
I think one of the issues bucking why Jake Browning,
you know, isn't playing worth of darn is they look
like they're running the same offense that Joe Burrow runs,
you know, and Joe just goes through progressions like nobody
else in his business. So he can take a peek
at tomorrow. Okay, they got him bracketed. Okay, I'm coming
over to the other side, like Jake can't play like that.
(35:45):
So I don't see some of the creativity DJing that
we see in this league to get guys loose, to
shake the loose where it's a you know, like what
they're doing in Indianapolis for you know Daniel Jones right now,
Like they don't they're not doing those kind of things
to get to the ball or to get Ja Mar
the ball. And you know it's not Look, it's an
(36:06):
indictment on Brownie. He's not good enough. But don't ask
Brownie to be Joe Burrow out there and play quarterback.
Speaker 3 (36:11):
Yeah, well, Joe Burrow is the best whack a mole
player in the NFL. I mean, like if there's he sees,
he sees the entire board and is able to react
to it unlike anybody else. So there's not just a
Browning thing. I don't know many quarterbacks that could play
the way the Burrow plays. I want to go back
over to golf real quick. I wrote this down, like
you know, you're watching guys and at different positions, and
you're sitting there going, you know, if I had a
(36:32):
high school quarterback and I wanted to have somebody with
teaching tape. Yeah, I don't know anybody thinks that golf
might be the one that I would pick because I've
always been taught. You know, it's almost like the John
Wooden thing. Be quick, but not in a hurry. You know,
you want to have quick feet, but you don't want
to be you know, too frazzled or too too too
frenetic or too busy. He has got really really quick feet.
(36:54):
But everything he does is so smooth and fluid and easy.
And part of that I get is because the offensive
line is so good and they afford him clean pockets,
but he throws from a firm platform. It's everything is
textbook about what he does. They did a ton of
stuff in this game where they pair up the tight
ends on the same side and they had you know,
I think about creativity and some of the stuff they did.
Uh that was that was an effective way for him.
(37:16):
But I just thought, man, this is the best quick, smooth, fluid,
you know quarterback when I was growing up and I
was young, but I used to always and when I
just started playing in college, like they would always show
us stuff of Montana.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
That was the guy.
Speaker 3 (37:29):
He's like, Okay, he's not the biggest guy to have
the strongest arm or anything. Well, look at how fluid
and smoothies. I like just be as smooth and flu
We used to talk about even like kind of rocking
the ball and your drop like kind of from shoulder
to shoulder and just kind of allowing yourself to get
a nice little smooth rhythm to it, and and golf
plays that way. So he was again foreign completions. There's
a lot of games where quarterbacks just didn't throw in completions.
(37:49):
You only have four completions and three touchdowns. So he
is great almost forty games.
Speaker 4 (37:54):
Easy Yeah, easy moved off their gas in the fourth Quarner.
Speaker 1 (37:59):
Let me say this because I might have been the
biggest skeptic when it came to John Morton and David Sean.
Speaker 2 (38:05):
All these guys taken over for.
Speaker 1 (38:07):
Ben Johnson, all of the physical and fun stuff that
Ben Johnson has done. They've been able to continue to
do some of that while finding their identity and listen
to a mom Rod Saint Brown talk to Dave Montgomery
on a podcast and they were talking about the differences
between Ben Johnson and Johnny Moe and how Johnny Moe
is direct and he's a little different when it comes
(38:29):
to the edginess of his presentations.
Speaker 2 (38:31):
But they've retained some of this fun.
Speaker 1 (38:33):
Stuff, and they still have I would say, like the
physicality and toughness the Wildcat played down at the goal
line Montgomery during the jump.
Speaker 2 (38:44):
Pass, like they still have some of that stuff.
Speaker 1 (38:46):
I just give John Morton a lot of credit because
I think he stepped into some big shoes to replace
because you had an expectation of what this offense has been.
Speaker 2 (38:56):
It's hard to keep the points up, the.
Speaker 1 (38:59):
Physicality up, makes it some fun plays and do all that.
But he's found a way to do it within his
own personality. So it ass off to him for being
able to take that over and do it well.
Speaker 5 (39:10):
All putting up forty and really Jameis and William has
been very quiet the last two weeks, and so like
once they get him going and his speed like it's
I don't know, I don't know if anybody can slow
him down right now.
Speaker 2 (39:23):
Have they told you, Baldi how much they're given golf.
Speaker 3 (39:25):
It feels like he's got maybe a little more control
in this in this environment that maybe I just talked.
Speaker 5 (39:30):
To him briefly on the field before the game. He
takes his warm up pretty.
Speaker 4 (39:34):
Serious, so you know, you don't want to interrupt too
much of that, but he just has a like just
the level of focus. You know, going on the road
in Cincinnati, your crowd was all there, Like just the
focus that he plays with, like he just blocks all
that stuff out and it is he sees the field
so good.
Speaker 5 (39:52):
He had laporta early in that game.
Speaker 4 (39:53):
So many times they had no they had no answer
for some of the stuff they were doing.
Speaker 3 (39:58):
Now and on the defensive side of the five quarterback
hits for Aden Hudginson, He's got five sacks this year.
I went back and watched all of his sacks. He's
winning all the ways. Man power.
Speaker 4 (40:07):
Yesterday DJF wasn't for a little contact on Terry on Arnold. Yeah,
he had a safety you know, Dad to that that
resume right now, that was impressive.
Speaker 3 (40:16):
And you know the burst is still there when he
can escape and close. There's some there's some change of
direction stuff like he worked out here to spin in
a previous game where just he not quite as fluid
coming off that injury, which I'm sure that's going to come.
But speed power, his hands are awesome, Like he looks
like he's he's back and you kind of man, you
don't want to look in the rear view mirror. What
if he didn't get hurt last year? You know, what
(40:38):
does that mean for that Detroit team.
Speaker 4 (40:40):
I talked to I talked to Zeus before the game,
and he never played him before, but he knew that.
Speaker 5 (40:44):
You know, we're talking about max effort.
Speaker 4 (40:47):
He makes more plays on the other side of the
field than any defensive end of this league right now.
Speaker 5 (40:52):
His effort is.
Speaker 3 (40:53):
Just you know, he's got Jared Allen traits to him.
So that's who he reminded me of when he was
coming out. Not just doing the white on white edge
rusher comparison there, but that just the effort, like Jared
Allen never stopped. Yeah, all right, let's last one here
and then we'll be on. Let Baldy get on his
way here. Giants Saints. Hey, the Saints won a game.
(41:16):
Spencer Ratler won a game. Body, Yeah, no, I mean,
and you know, he has been playing pretty well, but
I got you know.
Speaker 4 (41:22):
They hit the big shot to Rashid Shaheed which really
kind of opened things up.
Speaker 5 (41:27):
They got to turnovers, but he's been playing well.
Speaker 4 (41:30):
Like you know, they had Buffalo twenty one sixteen in
the fourth quarter. They were driving last week and they
let it get away from him. They had Arizona like
right down to the wire. They've been playing pretty good.
Kellimore's he's a good coordinator.
Speaker 5 (41:45):
He just knows how to run off and say if
they got a good one two punch with Kendre Miller
and you know, and Kamaras can still do it.
Speaker 4 (41:54):
They had a rook they had a rookie right guard
you know that never played before in there, and the
Giants didn't take advantage of him. In fact, Spencer Rattler,
I don't think he got sacked in the game. I
don't even know if he got hit. So he looked good.
Speaker 5 (42:06):
He took off and he ran a couple of times,
but he hit the big shot when it was there.
Just he's their deep threat. I thought he was. I
thought he played really well.
Speaker 3 (42:15):
He's got a live arm man. Just going back through that,
he has got a really he actually does. I know
it's not just Oklahoma thing, but the ball comes out
similar to Baker like, ball jumps out of his hand
when he's driving the ball outside the numbers. Not a big,
big guy, but he's got a loose, live arm book.
Speaker 2 (42:31):
Yeah, I mean, look it.
Speaker 1 (42:33):
It's something to watch these two teams right, because you're
thinking the Giants are about to get it going.
Speaker 2 (42:40):
Jackson Dark comes in the first drive that he had
looked terrific, and then just man, just the turnovers.
Speaker 1 (42:46):
Like I think they had five drives in a row
that just were just debacles, and you just can't have
those kinds of things when you're a team that can't
overwhelm people. And I just look at the Giants and
I just think, like, like, I like the fun stuff
that they're doing. I like how they're trying to maximize it.
But he has to value the ball. And then sometimes
Dave Ball has to kind of help him by calling
(43:08):
things that don't put him in a situation where he
is exposed where he can't turn the ball over.
Speaker 3 (43:13):
Now, no Molik Neighbors sucks man. You're hoping to really
get a chance to watch this young quarterback grow and develop,
and you lose your big time weapons.
Speaker 1 (43:19):
So can I say this break Baldy, did you see
camp scattered boot.
Speaker 2 (43:25):
On the block him?
Speaker 1 (43:26):
Yeah, like I know the lost but holy smoked in
terms of just like a stature like just man up
under and just.
Speaker 5 (43:37):
Hells people watch people. Man, he comes, he gets all
up in the grill.
Speaker 4 (43:42):
It looks like MMA stuff in the octagon, man, like
the way that he takes people down.
Speaker 2 (43:48):
Yeah, he did it.
Speaker 3 (43:48):
He did it on the draw last week, so he's
he's done it a couple of weeks in a row here,
but yeah, he Congrats to Kellen Moore. He's a great dude.
He is a very good coach. And I just didn't
think they'd have enough players to be competitive, and they've
been competitive, as you mentioned that. Uh, and they got
themselves a win here, so congrats to them. Also, love
kind of doing a lot more RPO stuff with with
Rattler two. He's very comfortable with all that. So hey,
(44:10):
Dylan Gabriel real quick had a good Uh. I know
they didn't win the game, but he was good. He
was efficient. I think, hey, that's there's nothing I saw there.
They would say, I'm looking anywhere else. I'm gonna roll
at him until until.
Speaker 4 (44:21):
You look at that. You look at the first touchdown
to Fanning. There's Fanning, you know, there's Quinn, Shawn Jenkins,
there's Dylan. I mean, they got the rookies all out there.
Speaker 2 (44:30):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (44:31):
You know Dylan Samson's playing leads the team and tackles
every week. Uh, Mason Graham's been really good. I mean, look,
they're they're a rebuild mode. But I thought he got
rid of the ball quickly, accurately. You know, he had
him in contention right to the very end.
Speaker 3 (44:46):
Yeah, no good stuff there from Dylan Gabriel. Almost see
how the rest of those rookies played the rest of
the year. Again, they've got they'll be watching the Jags
game tonight, Buck Cleveland intently paying attention to your bag,
of course, with their chiefs, with their chiefs hats on.
Speaker 1 (45:00):
I mean, I know, like hopefully the Jacks don't give
them anything to be excited about.
Speaker 3 (45:05):
They got a couple of picks here in the first
round next year, so it could be exciting days to
head here for Cleveland. Baldi, appreciate your time on Mondays.
Everybody loves these things, man, they're great. Appreciate everybody listening.
We'll see you next time right here on.
Speaker 2 (45:16):
Move the sticks.
Hosts And Creators
Daniel Jeremiah
Bucky Brooks
Popular Podcasts
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
My Favorite Murder is a true crime comedy podcast hosted by Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark. Each week, Karen and Georgia share compelling true crimes and hometown stories from friends and listeners. Since MFM launched in January of 2016, Karen and Georgia have shared their lifelong interest in true crime and have covered stories of infamous serial killers like the Night Stalker, mysterious cold cases, captivating cults, incredible survivor stories and important events from history like the Tulsa race massacre of 1921. My Favorite Murder is part of the Exactly Right podcast network that provides a platform for bold, creative voices to bring to life provocative, entertaining and relatable stories for audiences everywhere. The Exactly Right roster of podcasts covers a variety of topics including historic true crime, comedic interviews and news, science, pop culture and more. Podcasts on the network include Buried Bones with Kate Winkler Dawson and Paul Holes, That's Messed Up: An SVU Podcast, This Podcast Will Kill You, Bananas and more.
24/7 News: The Latest
The latest news in 4 minutes updated every hour, every day.
Dateline NBC
Current and classic episodes, featuring compelling true-crime mysteries, powerful documentaries and in-depth investigations. Follow now to get the latest episodes of Dateline NBC completely free, or subscribe to Dateline Premium for ad-free listening and exclusive bonus content: DatelinePremium.com